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/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1304

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■ Current Update (7/26):「Heroes: EPISODE 5」
├ http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-is-searching-for-heroes-in-episode-5/
└ http://pso2.jp/players/update/20170726/

■ Weekly Boost & Events Schedule
├ http://pso2.jp/players/boost/
├ Google: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=pso2emgquest%40gmail.com
├ Random EQ Hourly Advance Notice (JP): https://twitter.com/pso2_emg_hour
└ Regular Maintenance: Wednesday @ 11:00 ~ 17:00 JST

■ Current Scratches: http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/
├ Tropical Summer Ocean (until 8/9)
├ Legendary Heroes (until 8/23)
└ [SG] Mother Cluster Imitation (until 12/13)

■ Current Collection Files
├ Phantom God (Zeinesis series, until 11/1)
├ Majestic/Phantom Battoruship (until 11/29)
├ Revolutio 2 (until 2018/3/7)
└ Aura (until 2018/3/21)

□ FAQs, Lilipans, Guides, (READ THESE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS)
├ General Information/News: http://bumped.org/psublog/
├ Basic English Patch: http://pso2.acf.me.uk/Manual/
└ Buy AC using PSO2es: http://pastebin.com/raDBtSpa

□ Database/Wiki
├ http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php (JP)
├ http://pso2wiki.net/ (JP)
└ http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com (EN)

□ Simulators
├ Skill Trees: http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php
├ Affixing: http://pso2affix.seilent.net/
└ Damage Calculator: http://4rt.info/psod/

Previous Thread: >>183760331
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>>183871835
ITS UP!
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2nd for Shunka
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This game is shit and ep5 won't save it
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>>183871989
Fuck Guren; our savior has returned.
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Servers up
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This music they used for the SU reveal still triggers me.
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>>183872119
But I love GT just as much as Shunka
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well there's no aru in the op so ep5 must be better right?
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We dunka now
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WHERE IS THE TITLE PERSON?
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>Hitsugi's Ame no Murakumo is the reason why we can make the attempt to save Persona now

BAHAHA I LOVE IT
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level 30 hero cap quest what do
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>literal chocobos
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>>183872835
Training quest
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This hair is going to be expensive
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>>183872941
thanks
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>>183873030
But it looks so dumb
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>>183873232
As is a lot of expensive items in this game
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So Hero is shit, right?
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>>183871989
2 shunkas kill rodos now
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So, how yall liking ep5? Should I reinstall?
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>>183873541
DO NOT
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>>183873693
What in the fuck is that?
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>>183873991
episode 4 in fantasy land
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So wait, they just straight up reverted Shunka to its pre nerf status?
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where'd they move the title nigger
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>>183874395
where shirona is and was
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>>183874247
Faster too but its wonky controls caught me off guard
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Amazing
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i got the titles but no hero quest from coffee?
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Are there any good currently accessible Katanas that aren't Zein/Qliph?
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Was someone removed from koffie/pudding counter? There's an empty spot.
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>>183874614
same
DON'T FUCKING TELL ME IT"S ONLY WORKS WITH 1 CHARACTER ONLY
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W E W F U C K I N G L A D
E
W
>100% proc rate for 5 points
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>>183874727
Hero skill sim where?
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>>183874614
>>183874690
Coffees order specifically says 75/75/75.
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>>183874614
Try leaving to your room or something and coming back so she contacts you.
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>>183874690
nvm, just got to the gate on gate area koffie will pops up and gives the CO lmao
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>>183874771
I have 75 Hu, 75 Br and 75 Fo but nothing, did I fuck up?
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>>183874792
Thanks lel
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>>183874767
http://pso2skillsimulator.com/simulator/
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>>183874905
>level 70 hero in the lobby already
Que?
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I can't believe Xiao booted Xierra out of her chair
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Alma a cute
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>>183875053
>I can't believe a dumb thot got treated like a dumb thot
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>only find out now that you can download the patch as soon as the game goes down for maint
>started patching 1 hour before the servers go up
>might miss Beach Wars at this rate
I'm mad
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>>183875053
She's a fairy in the universe's asshole now
>>183875095
Harriet is cuter
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>>183875142
>start patching as soon as the game goes down for maint
sorry anon, that's only if you have the vita version. patch only went like like 6 and a half hours ago for pc.
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aaaa just shovel the exposition into all my holes
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How do I increase hero level cap
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look at this abomination
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>>183875205
That's still enough time for me to leave on and be ready by the time the game goes live.
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The new story is refreshing af, they just need to get rid of xiera now
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>the spam you can do with swords shift attack
Tell me your PA combos
Rising Slash>Brightness End>Vapor Bullet seems like the best all rounder.
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Is Shunka seriously back to Braver release strength?
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>>183875352
Stop it.
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>>183875194
It's the origin point of the universe, so it's more like the vagina
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Can you do the Hero training quest if you don't have Hero unlocked yet? I want to see if the class is even worth unlocking or if I'm gonna be fucked over by gaijin ping
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>>183875194
>Harriet
>literally invites you into her private tent the second time you see her
what a whore
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It's nice being the main character of the story again
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>Seraphy gets her old counter back
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>solo power cut in half
>no compensation
rip
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>>183874556
Shunka first hit increased by 10%
2nd and 3rd to 13%
Finishing slash 64%
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what do I need to do for the 30 hero quest
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>>183876673
You have to let Stratos step on your dick.
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>>183876673
clear the training quest
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>>183876754
I finished it but the co didnt get completed
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Stratos a cute
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This class is actually crazy as fuck
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>>183876323
b-but nafoie is better now and you get 5 more points into photon flare, FO is completely fine!
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>>183877237
I fucking love it tbqh.
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>Hero is legitimately Unga
>finally my dreams of actually being able to swat shit like flies and fucking literally shrug shit off is realized
>Summoner is legitimately invincible
thank god for both hero and Summoner
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>>183877347
Stop using dumb nigger terms, anon.
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I hope your enjoying HERO.
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So how big are the 2nd stage maron dmg nerf and 3rd stage hit counter?
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>servers have been up for over an hour
>new eepisode
>all ships green
D E D G A M E
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https://youtu.be/66y31GEPb10
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>>183877462
>playing a failed class like su when hero is out
how pathetic lol
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Now that the dust has settled, is Episode 5 going to reign SUPREME?
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>>183877574
Even EP4 had all blocks full during release (maybe it was because of PS4 release?).

Needless to say, I got trapped in my room because of it.
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>can still get sucked into a cut scene without warning in the lobby

five years of this shit
FIVE FUCKING YEARS
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>>183877957
Watch them fuck up like after the first main EQ.
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Hurry up and post Alis.
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>>183878081
They already fucked up hard
New episode and the game is still dead
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>>183878135
for what purpose
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Hero time is fucking insane
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>Grayed out story board option in the main menu forever
Just so you never forget
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how does HERO mag works?

I thought it would automatically scale, but it's still a single stat
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>>183878474
Is there a trick to increasing gear? I usually clear the quest before it even fills.
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>mfw I was wrong
Im glad Sega didn't fuck up. Level cap quest are stupid though.
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>they fell for the all atk unit memes
LMAO DORKS
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>>183878687
Not sure, I just did 1~4 and didn’t get the bar filled til area 5 but it lasted the entire Esca/hyunar/angel/falz fight and I destroyed them while the techers and summoners with me died miserably to Escas root attack
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>>183878803
What are you supposed to go for then?
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>>183878803
so is it sword>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else, i'm stuck with my 3rd world-tier download speeds
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Pretty safe to say Hero is PP based in terms of gear
You need PP to even switch weapons, thank god I didn’t make a shit yet
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>>183878892
SWORD
eventually tmgs for reloading I guess
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>>183878920
>tfw I went for D.Ais sword 8slot just for the 20% pp reduction
Feels good.
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>Megid hitting 130k on my HERO at lv 47

HOLY SHIT
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was that PSO2es update that was adding more quick search things today too or was that coming later
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>Still can't manage to update the game
Well i only wanted to do the story anyway since i can't get Hero.
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What you have to clear for the second lv 40 hero cap?
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Which is better to go for right now? The new fornis knuckle or the zeinesis knuckle?
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New Summer EM is shit.
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>>183879647
what music plays?
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>>183879729
Mostly that horrible summoner announcement music.
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Aura vs Military TMG on Hero?
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>15 runs for one fornis
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>killing bosses in ~20 seconds with Hero
This is the class I’ve always wanted
Sword is finally great
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How does it feel to know that you won't get as many Beach Wars runs as you want because there are too many people leveling up Hero for the first time and having no idea how to do good DPS?
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How bad is Force now? Gunner? Maron?
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>>183880285
>Obsolete since Hero has access to anything that made it good and does it better
>that other shit
Lol
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>メセタ結晶(小)
What the fuck?
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Hero kinda wack, but TMGs feel nice to use compared to GU's
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>16 runs for aratron drop
>have to do lq/vegas runs in between to get the illusia drop
>it's the worst beach wars ever
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I’m actually surprised at how Hero is the first good new class since Braver
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Best Hero skill tree?
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>>183880590
If by "good" you mean "broken ass shit" then sure

Maybe all they really need to do to make the game fun again is to just make everything roll over and die
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You can literally clear an entire map as hero in like 15 seconds
The fucking distance it covers with sword and talis is too good
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So does Hero need 100m affixes to work properly?
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>>183880662
That's how it's been since forever.
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Why is Talis Action separate from weapon action
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So basically when you learn how to switch weapons and combo as Hero you have absolutely no reason to be shitty at this game and unable to solo content again?
The sword PA already does like 80k per Hit at level 56
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dead game
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>>183880763
Needs a lot of pp.
FAZZ BTFO
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>pp affixes are gonna cost a fortune now
thanks for fucking me over even more sega
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What does the Come Again skill do?
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>>183881009
instant revive
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>>183880917
So as a poorfag I shouldn't even bother?
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>>183881009
Allows you to travel to the marking shot twice.

>>183881039
Well done
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The fuck are the buster quests?
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>still need to level a tech class to 75 just to try Hero
kms
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>>183881445
You had ages to stack keys and get one to lv75.
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>>183881483
>stack keys
how when they expire so fast?
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>>183881517
>do dailies for a week
>should get at least a few
>use booster
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>>183881445
Be glad it's not 80.
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>>183880917
Not even necessary, 150 will be enough because just-pp whatever with TMG's refills you in less then 6 seconds.
Just go apeshit and refill
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>>183881606
I only get 1-2 keys per week
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I don't understand why they moved title lady
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>>183881727
There's probably some new NPC to do with classes or heroes sometime in the future.
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>>183881727
Making room for Buster Admin.
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>>183881679
>tfw you got no keys whatsoever in these weeks
Just gonna spam LQ non stop then ;-;
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Tech Charge Parry ring won't work with sword and TMG, right?
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>>183882038
Yes, it shouldn't work with those two. Probably. I mean you could try and it and see on some oodans or something.
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so I'm leveling summoner to unlock hero, what am I supposed to do with this skill tree? any up to date guides on this shit?
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>>183881627
Whats the fastest tech class to get to 75?
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>Omnibus makes you go through a bunch of random filler scenes anyway
>Alma only chimes in just for the ones actually important
bluuh so much skipping
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>>183882342
Probably Summoner, if you set up an exit burst territory in a full party
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>>183882447
Is Gu still the go-to sub for Su?
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>>183879624
zeinesis ofcourse
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Anyone got poorfag hero affixes?
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>>183882653
Probably not after the changes they've made to Chain Trigger
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>>183881650
Dont forget the Ki blaster sword has.
Easy PP for everything save talis
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>>183882653
No, they nerfed chain to only work with tmg and mainclass restricted it. Go with fi and get a popple/cery to max ele and decent level with the pp personality.
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is yaamato eq ever coming back
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FUCKIMG POST ALIS
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Now with Maron, Gu, WB and bow nerfed, is it impossible to reach 9,999,999 damage?
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>>183883102
Yes
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>>183882894
The Chain Finish skill is what has those new restrictions, not the base Chain Trigger skill

Which still reduces CT's power overall, of course, so it's clearly not in the best place

It's still important that you don't spread misinformation though

>>183882975
Two hours after this next Beach Wars
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So what defensive options does hero have? Is it only step?
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>have character dressed up as a hero
>no hero weapon camo to complete the look
Step the hell up, Sega.
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>>183883049
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>Stratos can pull out weapons in the lobby
Uh?
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>>183883276
Everyone has weapons in the lobby
You're just not allowed to smacky smacky them on your friends' domes
How the heck would the shops work if you couldn't even carry them around
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>>183883435
I'm pretty sure they're supposed to stay sheathed, you're not supposed to swing them around like that
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So what are the best three weapons for Hero? Is Zeinesis the best or should I use something else? I have most every 13 stars dumped in storage already.
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>>183883486
Use your brain?
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>>183883586
People are talking about PP being an issue and such, which is why different potentials might matter. I'm feeling like TMGs already have amazing PP recovery though.
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>This is the best Sega could come up with.
Holy fuck how lazy can they get.
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Did anyone manage to make hero talis work
it seems so shitty compared to the others
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>>183883756
They blew 3 years worth of budget moneys on a shitty anime
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>>183883756
Let's see your genius idea for a class then Mr Armchair game dev.
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>>183883943
>a new class which is basically a mix of all the current classes.
wow I bet Sega took real long thinking of this!
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Noob question here, do the defence ratings on units even matter? like i have a Minst set, but the set bonus is worse than Hiei, which is all T-def apparently. Does that matter?
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>>183883974
and clearly so did you before making your post!
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>>183883974
So you'd be fine with it if these same weapons were sabers, revolvers and magic armlets and you had to grind them since they're new weapon types?
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>>183884000
less than people here would have you believe.
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>>183884000
It kinda does, but also not really
Especially not really if you're around the level where you'd be asking about the difference between those particular sets
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Why haven't I received any of the web rewards?
Do I have to S-rank a XH LQ?
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>release yuusha
>no yuuki yuuna collab
uh, pos2tards?
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>>183883756
and it's already leaps and bounds more enjoyable than summoner. they're doing pretty fucking good.
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>>183884173
Summoner is the most fun I had in PSO2.
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>>183884126
Did you complete any of the individual Episode 1, 2, 3, 4 LQs during the first half of the event (between 6/7~7/5), before the final Episode1~4 quest was added?
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>>183884205
>enjoys the class that's braindead autopilot

So you don't like games?
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>>183884173
it's 'fun' because it melts everything with little effort
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>>183884167
Our heroes don't even punch shit
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>>183884264
>anything being remotely skillful in this game.
come on m8, You do the same boring quests over and over.
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>>183883756
i thought the same, but then realized that it's not like any of the other classes are that good either. it's just sega being sega.
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>>183884265
It's fun because it's fast paced and moves you around a lot.
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>>183884256
I didn't do any LQs until after 7/5. Am I not eligible for any of the rewards?
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>>183884274
Knuckles for hero update when?
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>>183884349
As long as you cleared any of them once during the event period (even an incomplete run should count because of the way it works) you should be eligible

Can't really say for certain what the issue is

Do you play on multiple ships? I think you can only claim them once, account-wide?
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>>183884448
Azif wanna get bopped kiddo
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>>183884617
Lelouch..
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Hero is Bouncer on steroids and growth hormones.
Why even bother with BO when Hero literally does everything it can do but 100x better?
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>>183884831
You seem very knowledgeable on the class already! Tell me the decent Hero DPS rotations
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>>183884818
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>>183884945
Rising Slash with vapor bullet for pp regen
Dont be mad that sega literally made you class obsolete
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>>183884945
TMG normals -> Just Reload.
TMG Final Storm spam -> Just Reload.
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Which option is multiblock matchmaking?
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>>183885168
the button on the bottom left
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Cross block matchmaking is a joke. I'm not being matched with experts.
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>>183885261
did you actually toggle the option to match with them on
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>>183885352
Where is that option?
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>Like Bo playstyle but don't really like dual wielding, prefer heavy weapon
>Hero time
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>>183885205
Thanks.
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>>183885352
Not him but I did and I got shit all matches, is it being fucky for anyone else?
>>183885449
matchmaking settings in quest counter
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>>183885352
Yeah its the bottom most option in matchmaking setting?

I have that checked and just did a beach wars that too 20 fucking minutes. So they definitely weren't experts.
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>mfw the Shunka menace is back
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So the best way to play Hero is stack PP and just use normal attack on TMG?
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>tfw you finally get your character exactly the way you want it

And all it took was four makeover passes and ten hours!
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>>183885702
Is it because you're leveling hero?
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>>183885702
If I read the pop-up correctly (and I probably didn't) a small number of blocks are segregated into separate matching groups, like the beginner blocks, for example

I'm not sure if that's what your problem was though
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Apparently you can get astra units from the aratron boss.
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>>183885984
yes but why would you want them when union and qliphard exist?
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>>183885702
>mfw ive been getting matched with all hero partys
>mfw sub 10 min 1-4 runs
this class is fucking insane
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>>183886197
>everything dies so quickly i can't get my hero gauge charged

dang
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>>183886231
Pretty much
I have yet to see the super used in an actual quest, because its so fucking short and everything dies so goddamn fast.
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>>183886103
union is literally worse and kurippuhard only gives a few pp more
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>>183885879
No this was for the EQs
>>183885932
>blocks are segregated into separate matching groups
might have been it, I'll make sure I'm in a XH block next time
>>183886197
it's also fucking fun
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Is hero counter worth it?
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>they released a class that blows all others the fuck out

Take your bets on how long they allow Heros to dominate the game before they get a nerf that ultimately won't matter.
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Which TMG should I pick up for Hero?
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>xiera claims she can't do combat in the prologue

filthy robot lies
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>>183887248
As in, one I can actually still get right now starting from zero
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>メセタ結晶(中)
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hero tmg is everything i wanted gunner to be. ep5 best episode
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>>183887382
yamato weapon are easy as fuck to get, try that
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>>183888360
Military TMG's potential is crit based, does that even work with hero?
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>>183888418
hero gets like 70% free crit on weak point
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>>183888576
Heard it's only for ele-weak targets?

>>183888418
Probably not, but there's still the weak point part of the potential, besides the higher stats could make up for it a little bit.
Other option right now would be Aura really. There isn't as much Deus this week so Zeinesis is kinda hard to farm for
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>buster quest not even out yet and it's already better than the entirety of ep4
Finally, whoever came up with summoner and anime should hang himself now
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>>183888925
>one overpowered class
>one bad eq
new yamato shits all over ep5 so far
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>>183889101
>new yamato
>new
>yamato
>liking bad things
Im guessing you started playing when ep4 started too
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>>183889223
Not him but do you really want every EQ to be like Loser?
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>>183889223
I'm guessing you hate magatsu too right?
Especially after they """ruined it"""
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>using anything other than sword on HERO
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>>183889657
TMG feels pretty good. Talis feels really weak though.
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>shitting out damage with an overpowered class feels good
Hero is the new force
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>>183889725
Talis has utility in its movement at least. The PA(s?) stays active even if you change weapons with the PA actions too.
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All other classes are gimp compared to hero. Maybe fighter is the only one that can hold a candle to it.
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So were all atk affixes just a meme then?
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>>183890194
>Main Gunner
>Hero is Gunner 2.0 but with less PAs
I don't know what to feel.
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>>183890230
They definitely were not. You're going to want to be using at least sword/TMG all the time, swapping depending on the situation. Talis is more iffy, but still probably useful for setting up its DoTs on raid bosses.
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>>183888874
Well, you heard wrong. It's both weak points and weak element techs.
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>>183890362
Embrace it while it's broken anon, because as soon as it gets fucked we go back to Gunner.
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Is Hero guaranteed to get nerfed into the ground within 2 months?
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>>183890721
No, they'll just buff all the other classes instead
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Shunkan is still shit, what did they even buff about it
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>>183890721
Hero will become the new bar for "endgame" play. Other classes will be buffed up to it/new content will be developed around how strong it is.
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Left is cross-block matching, right is current block?
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List of buffs/nerfs for ep 5
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>>183890721
so it can be 10x worse than fighter instead of 5x?
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>>183890957
And skill changes
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>>183890910
Yes.
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>>183891150
that cooldown change to CT is actually pretty nice
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>>183891150
>chain finish power buffed to 250%
fucking nani
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>>183879113
omg fuck, I knew I forgot to do something on boost week. Fuck you!!!!
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>pso2g still doesn't realize that the real power of hero comes from hero time and it's finisher, which needs you to constantly switch weapons for it to charge reliably
Yeah sure stick to just swords. See what that gets you.
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>oh hey a new tab in my storage, must be the gathering storage, lemme check it out...
>AC item
>when premium and expanded storage already exist
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>>183892378
I get hero finisher fast and I just rotate 3 TMG PAs
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So going pure R-ATK with TMG only is the way to go?
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>>183892378
Explain how switching weapons makes it charge reliably?
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Is ship4 en community really better than ship2? Or are you guys memeing me?
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>try to join eq without a party
>tunnel finishes
>end up in empty mpa campship with this message
GREAT UPDATE
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>>183893340
ship4 is all nips, plus a cliquey team of shitters

you're being memed
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>>183893274
It doesn't, it's just that they are also PAs which happen to switch weapon. You can swap between two on the same weapon, or not hold the buttons to change weapon and still gain the same gear from it.
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>>183893340
Shit2 has a fucked economy and Shit4 doesn't. That's the most important thing.
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>>183893274
There's a skill that raises gear accumulation by a lot for just the switching weapon combo PAs. I guess >>183892795 has a point though, since there's another one that increases it by the same amount for doing ranged attacks. The close up attacks one increases it by a lot less though. Forgot exact numbers but it was something like 115 compared to 160.

Shitposts aside though i think the intended way to play is TMG for mobbing and Swords for single targets, with Talis for utility and added DPS due to how it's PAs stay after weapon switching.
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>>183893340
Ship4 is 99% JPs. Ship2 has a much bigger English community, so of course there is also a bigger amount of English speaking shitters on there, there's just much more players total.

>>183893565
That only really matters if you transfer to Ship2 later on. All the prices for stuff are extremely inflated on Ship2, but that also means you can sell your shit for way more so it balances out.
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>>183891150
Wait, didn't they say that they were going to nerf chain trigger? That doesn't look like a nerf to me.
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>>183893738
It's main class only or something now
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>>183893697
But TMG outdamages Sword on single targets.
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>>183893841
I haven't been able to equip my Zein's yet so i dunno. My egg blaster has been doing less damage than my holy tree.
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>>183893834
Yeah but they said it'd be slightly weaker for gunners too.
Instead it's twice as strong now. What the hell?
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>>183890957
>>183891150
So what was all the bitching about ep 5 being nothing but nerfs about?
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newfag here, should I finish ep4 before starting ep5?
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>>183894128
Fo and Ra were significantly nerfed.
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>>183894128
The initial announcement only had nerfs listed for everything except katana and jet boots.
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>>183894128
Banish and volg has their modifiers cut by 50%
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>>183894346
Source? I haven't noticed anything of the sort, just increased PP costs
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>>183894627
swiki
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>just want to chill and check out the summer lobby
>every block is packed to bursting thanks to hero
>lobby is red with intense music for a full fucking hour thanks to level 80/80 shit
I'm just gonna go play PSOBB until this shit settles down.
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>>183894024
chain trigger power got nerfed by more than half
chain finish skill got extremely buffed to compensate for that, but still results in reduced power for gu
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any idea what to do with this?
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Pure damage build? With Guard Stance? It's more likely than you think!
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>>183895095
Oh. Welp.
So drop it for hero then?
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>>183895026
Can't login too. This is making me wish I moved to any other ship outside of 2. I'm not even going to focus on leveling Hero, I just wanted to get in Beach Wars and level my non-75 classes.
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>>183895154
firesword we're busy having fun with hero, every other class is irrelevant now
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>>183895363
>Can't login

How is that the fault of the ship you picked?
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Why is everyone crying about nerfs? The game has always been stupidly easy, and it reached a fever pitch in Ep4.

Ra, Gu, and Te didn't get nerfed, they just had their absurd game-breaking damage toned down to something more reasonable.

WB jamming was pretty much consistent across all bosses, they just made the change permanent, and all affected content was retuned to compensate for the reduction in party DPS. Zanverse never should've gotten benefit from skills because Techer main was never intended to be a casting class (in the way that Force is); for the purposes of Te main, you might as well have called it "Zanverse Mastery", and 20SP to buff a single spell was fucking absurd. CT isn't useless, it suffered a small damage loss in exchange for almost-constant uptime, and was rendered useless for subclasses since it was breaking the fucking game with Su/Gu shitters.

The only class that really got fucked was Force. Compounds needed to be nerfed, but not like this, and they needed something to compensate for the loss, which they didn't get.
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>>183895609
I'm at SEAland.
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>>183895612
>Te damage breaking the game but Te without any damage at all both in party and solo is fine
>Force needs something to compensate now
I wonder who could be behind this post
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>>183895612
>play ra in area without wb jamming
>do a fraction of old damage
>no balance adjustments to compensate
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>>183895612
Gu got buffed though. Quite a bit too, it's way stronger now than it was before Ep5.
Ra was buffed for all the relevant content too and at least the old bosses were adjusted for it to not make quite as big of a difference as before.
The only real nerf there was Te's Zanverse, which honestly was pretty fucked, and Fo, which was in the top spot for quite a long time and will probably end up getting buffed again before long.
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>15 minutes of story
>Hero
>no new content
>some balance changes
>more AC content and clothing than everything else put together
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>>183896124
>Gu got buffed though. Quite a bit too, it's way stronger now than it was before Ep5.
Gu didn't get any relevant buffs.
Also they killed bow braver for no reason despite it already being worse due to the damage cap.
Partizan is fucking dead too.
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>>183895351
gu is in okay spot now, you can have infinite chain going on if you know your shits
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>>183896214
>Gu didn't get any relevant buffs.
You haven't even played it yet, have you? It's in a way better spot now than before. You have quite literally zero downtime between CTs if you have another Gu in the party and can chain them infinitely as long as you have something to attack.
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>>183896457
Doesn't matter when 99% of relevant boss content is bursting at cores that are only vulnerable for a short time.
CT's cooldown doesn't matter as long as it's up for every core damage period, which it was already.
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So how is Hero? Can I use my old SAtk Units or do I seriously have to make all-attack ones?
I heard the sword is by far the highest damage so I can just use mostly that and maybe switch to TMGs only to recover PP and Talis only to warp?
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>>183896607
You can blow your CT on shit like the hydra heads now too and prep it on the core while Deus is still flinging around and only settling down for a second instead of having to save it for when the core is fully exposed, it makes a pretty huge difference. On Mother you'll be able to just CT the hands from the get go and still have CT again for every burst part, etc. It was a pretty substantial buff.
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Anyone have some HR trees yet or is everyone waiting until the nips figure it out?
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>>183895026
>being a lobby cuck
>not finding peace in the heat of battle
embarrassing, just go to the cafe you weakling
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I was trying to be cautiously optimistic but bow is even worse than I thought it would end up. They actually killed bow braver
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So which classes are good now?
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hero is weak
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>>183899068
Hero for absolutely everything, Gunner for killing target dummies, Techer to make Heroes and Gunners stronger
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>>183899171
hero is FUN
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>samona wasn't as popular as we hoped
>how do we fix this for hero release?
>remove the other classes :^)
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>>183899068
Hero is fucking broken overpowered despite them nerfing half the other classes coming into ep5.
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>talis warp spam is faster than guren dashing
lol, what the fuck where they thinking
>>
>>183899873
please play our game
I assure you 12 hero mpas will be required to get good results in the castle eq
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So it doesn't look like the attack advance ring works with Hero. Any other rings that should be nice but don't work with hero?
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How broken is the game now
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>>183900368
Hero is stronger than anything was pre-ep5 and half the classes got destroyed or no help, what do you think
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>>183900502
What the hell is sega thinking?
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>>183900263
Tech charge parry, I think.
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>Pick episode 5 when I start the game up
>Do like 500 missions
>The game won't let me leave the bridge
What the fuck is going on
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>>183895126
fix windows permissions, give permissions to everything
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>>183900737
You have to do a bunch of story missions for the blue haired ikemen.
First you fight a ghetto version of solo PD together with Matoi, then you kill some Goblins, after that you only have to talk to them a couple times and you are free to go. Alternatively just use your quick menu to quicktravel to Franka's.
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Episode 5 will finally kill pso2
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>>183900737
can you log out of the game though?
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>>183900737
you can also use the quick menu to go to your room then go to the other areas from there
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>Unlock hero
>Fly across the fucking map like I'm playing Ninja Gaiden
W E W
E
W
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Why are so many hero players using only TMGs?
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>>183902028
Because it's better than all the other weapons.
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Hero is how all classes should be. not stiff and clunky but fast and mobile to match the janky enemy they throw at us.
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>>183902705
>Give hero best mobility
>also give them the best damage by far
????
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Why in the fuck did they make summoner jesus with the dear master buff? You literally cannot fucking die
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>>183903149
Why did they feel the need to remove bow braver from the game?
Why did they make hero blatantly overpowered?
It's Sega. I'm actually shocked the patch was as bad as it was considering how fucking pissed the JP community was at the balance changes when they were first announced. I don't think even the most pessimistic people predicted banish arrow would take a huge damage nerf AND have its PP cost increased by fucking 30.
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>>183903037
t. salty fi cuck
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How are you enjoying the episode so far, you scum caster bitches?
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>>183904565
yes
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>>183904565
Having fun casting with hero instead. It's actually pretty strong.
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I TOLD YOU ALL WEEKS AGO THAT HERO WAS GOING TO BE THE BEST CLASS, WHY ELSE WAS IT AN ADVANCED CLASS. God the English community is so dumb.
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Hero is so fucking stupid
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>>183904856
you were right

FI BTFO
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>>183904565
Everyone abandoned their old burned down class to be Hero.
Their is no point in class waring anymore because hero is now the one and only class in pso2.
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>>183904856
>that guy weeks ago who was arguing that a class locked behind getting level 75 on three different class would be balanced in any way whatsoever.
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>>183905164
there's no way this isn't getting nerfed better enjoy now, because people moaned about Force, now this is superior to Force in every way
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>>183905164
it's not like that's a hard requirement, you can level a class to 75 in a day
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>Just want to solo the LQ and have fun
>Can't restrict multiparty areas on it
>Multi block matching ensures that you'll have at least one other shitter in your party
what the fuck sega why
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>>183896994
You can literally max out everything on Hero except for the worthless bottom row skills and the crit skill. Just get all the good ones.
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>>183905456
Is there a sim for Hr yet?
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>>183905164
I'm sure pigeon holing everyone into playing the same class with 4 PAs per weapon won't backfire in any way.
>>183905319
All they needed to do was nerf compound damage and/or give it a 60s cooldown, not completely gut the class. Sega is out of their minds, they destroyed two of the worst weapons in the game (Partizan/Bow), nerfed other classes that were already in a bad spot or didn't help them and then added a completely broken class that makes the other classes mostly irrelevant. I hope the JP community is screaming at them.
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>>183904856
lmao
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The more I slay Anga
the angrier I get
Why
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>>183905456
Basically max everything except stat ups and the crit skill?
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Do I still need a VPN to play the ps4 version if I'm a SEAfag?
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Is PSO2 finally going to die?
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>>183904565
boring. Hero feels way too easy to play despite no automate since nearly all the PAs feel light and quick to use
Straight-forward as hell tree
Some of the most braindead attacks in the game
Gonna make the TA meta even more one-sided
Only hard part is the gear. Gear may hold it back in actually good MPAs
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>Kranos Ares base gear
It actually looks really good if you don't wear the outerwear with it. I wish it didn't have the plate armor on the legs though.
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>>183906171
Yes
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>>183906253
>Only hard part is the gear. Gear may hold it back in actually good MPAs
How so?
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>All these fi fags complaining because their class suddenly isn't number 1 anymore
This is the best
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>>183899840
you can't tell if it is broken or not right now, because we didn't see how it performs against raid bosses in comparsion to other classes, 80/80 Fi/Hu in particular
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>>183906512
Nice scapegoat Focuck, stay mad at your episode-long irrelevancy
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>>183906567
You can absolutely tell that it's broken right now.
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>>183906683
I'm the class that shit all over yours little ficuck, HERO DESU
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How many of you will stop playing hero after the inevitable nerf?
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>>183906853
lel
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>>183906853
Not a chance.
Even if it somehow becomes Bo tier it'll still play it because of how entertaining it is to play.
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>>183906449
Good all-atk affixes cost a lot more money than your generic 150/9 single stat ones.
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>>183889298
>actually a challenge at one point if you're retarded
>can be done incredibly quickly if you're not retarded
Yes.
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>>183906853
I'm quitting hero the moment my classes are playable again.
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gay faries
gay fantasy setting
gay ogres and wow style
gaycatgirl hair style
complete loss of unique PSO style and now its just all style for everyone pls play our gaymeme
same for hero,better than summoner still lol gj sega
people still dont realise PLS PLAY OUR CLASS bait is just make the class OP,
FO finally fallen lol compounds deserved it
boys already doing class cubes for lv 80 lol

game was better when you could untek 1*


>>171415081
best pa is best
>>181784042
your are the most loved
>>172382196
I am Eharima
>173333112
truth never changes
>179115078
hi. lets nostalgia
>>179482615
rappies are asexual therefore cannot be gay
>>183388353
you dont have enough meseta to make me dance

>>183907064
make sure you say [JB BO tier] ok you fucking noob.
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>>183905518
http://pso2skillsimulator.com/simulator/
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>>183906853
ask about the inevitable fi nerf too LMAO
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>>183906853
Yes I can't wait for hero to get nerfed in ep6.
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>they removed expert blocks
what the fuck, are they retarded
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>>183907783
Carry with HERO you goddamn shitter.
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Remove Rappy, Arkserbia strong
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>>183907208
So even if I unlock the class, I can't play it without blowing 200m on it every few months?
In that case I'll just uninstall, I don't think I've even gotten a total of 100m over the entire course of my time playing PSO2, much less having that much at once
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>>183908132
Stop being lazy and actually play the game then. You can make 10m a week just from weeklies without even trying, drops push you way past 20m a week if you hit most EQs
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>>183906229
Give it until the castle monster Eq to see how this plays.
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>>183908127
come to myroom and say that...
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>>183908521
You aren't even online
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>>183908319
>You can make 10m a week just from weeklies without even trying
wat
>drops push you way past 20m a week if you hit most EQs
Drops like what? Not like I can sell anything anyway, I've never gotten a shop pass ever
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>>183908787
>You can make 10m a week just from weeklies without even trying
TACOs

>drops push you way past 20m a week if you hit most EQs
Excubes into grinders sell the grinders
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>>183908787
Pretty obvious your problem is not actually playing the game, so change that and actually play instead of just idling in the lobby.
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>>183908787
>You can make 10m a week just from weeklies without even trying
Weekly gathering turn ins and Klotho COs.

>Drops like what?
Fodder, if worst comes to worst you can always sell Excubes too.

>Not like I can sell anything anyway, I've never gotten a shop pass ever
Literally just FUN Scratch more then, you can get an absurd amount of FUN for barely any Excubes. Like a single Yamato EQ is around 50k FUN already if you use the Excubes you get from it on FUN Tickets.
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>>183908924
TACOs do not add up to 10m
>grinders
Wat
You mean lambdas? Do they even sell for that much? I've never found myself wanting for lambdas so I figured they weren't that valuable.
>>183908947
I am playing the game, I'm just clearly playing it wrong somehow
>>
What do those two buttons at the bottom when you start a mission now do? There was just one before
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>>183908132
just affix a lot of pp. going to be more worth it than ATK with how inflated stats are on Hero and weapons. The value of attack affixes have been slowly falling off and now you're going to get more worth just stacking a million PP.
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>>183907783
...they announced that they were going to do this a while ago, you fucking dumb shit. There's cross-block matching now that you can restrict to just expert players.
>>
>>183909586
>>183890910
>>
>>183910262
How do I restrict it to just Expert players? Can't find a setting for it anywhere
>>
>tfw can't play hero because I missed out on all the good TMGs
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>>183909251
Oh wait, you can't even sell lambdas, duh. So what do you mean then? I can't imagine people actually buying regular ass grinders.
>>
>all those stinky fighters green with envy because HERO is dominating

lmoa
>>
>>183911076
i think he means exchanging excubes at the excube exchange shop for grinders, and then selling the grinders to an NPC
i wouldn't exchange all cubes, though, you'll need some for stuff like RDR 250s and Ability succ's
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>>183909251
>TACOs do not add up to 10m
I think you need to check what's going on before trying to refute to someone trying to help you. TACOs are character specific meaning without buying any character slots you can do it 3 times per week adding up to about 10m.
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>doing tacos on multiple characters
>playing multiple characters at all
you people are lunatics
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>>183911887
I have 15 characters and I do tacos twice a day. It barely takes up 20 minutes of my day.
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>>183906512
Fighter out dpses hero my dude.
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>tfw I can't decide which of my 3 characters gets to be my first Hero

>>183912094
Do you pub or solo? I know I can just run Harkotan and Nab B 5 times and I'm done, but I'm autistic enough to actually do the other runs since some of them have Daily COs.
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>>183912191
>Fis on damage control
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>>183911887
It takes no time at all to get a character to around 60 so you can quickly spam Hark for the weeklies on it. Maybe you'd be able to do it if you stopped wasting your time by bitching about how poor you are on here too.
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>>183911887
>Doing something that takes 30 minutes max on multiple characters over the course of a week
Oh it's just torture I know
>>
>>183912307
solo harukotan
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So is Force as dead as everyone was saying it was going to be? In the patch they buffed literally like every tech in the game but I know about the whole "Combined tech 2m cooldown" bullshit.
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>>183912828
They didn't buff the techs you actually use for damage, so no.
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>fell asleep at my desk messing with my character at the makeover salon
>had a dream that PSO2 had a bodyswap function
>bodyswapped with someone who already had a good-looking character
>they ran off with my body and I realized too late that I liked my original better
>had to play the game with their shitty underleveled, undergeared body
I don't even like bodyswapping, what the fuck was this fever dream horseshit?
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Am I cucked out of all event rewards if I didn't do the LQ during the initial rotation?
The first time I tried one all 4 were available.
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Why haven't you uninstalled yet?
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>>183912950
>They didn't buff the stuff you use
>Replies to if it's dead with "no" when all signs point to it was nerfed by being nerfed with buffs that buff nothing

What? I mean we also got some more skill points to use, It's only like five but can't you meme some double main element builds now?
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How's this for the newest meme?
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What are some good all-atk affixes to use on my units?
I bought three elegant staminas but dont know what else to do, what's the all-atk equivalent of the 150/9 tier cost wise? I have 6s RAtk units but obviously those kinda blow on Hero
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>>183914751
Why not just do one unit of each ATK type?
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>>183915094
Because that's absolutely retarded, might as well do some ghetto ass 3* Mod+Abi3+Doombreak affixes and it'd still shit on it.
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>>183914751
Apprentice soul and vinculum/modulator are good if they're not still inflated to shit.
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>>183915312
So something like App Soul, Mod, Ether, Abi3, Elegant Stamina?
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>>183915384
If you can afford it yeah, looks good.
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>>183914005
If you double element you're severely gimping yourself, you need to give up a lot to make it work. Also one of the elements needs to be Ice. In terms of is force dead, I wouldn't call it dead but it's not good right now. Dead is bow braver who literally cannot play the game any more without leeching.
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>>183908132
You just have to stop being lazy.

1. Make 2 additional characters. You dont have to max level them at all. Level 60 is enough, which takes a few hours at most.

2. Use all 3 characters to their fullest. Run TACOs weekly. Also use them to harvest ring materials. Harvesting serves 3 purposes. (1) get mats for rings to sell, (2) get items for daily COs that give 100k each, (3) get items for the old guy in Franka's cafe. The items you farm can be shared on all characters while the COs are character specific. This means you can turn in the same COs 3 times. Assuming you only grabbed 4 daily COs with the 100k reward per week, that's still 400k per character, plus old man's COs (there are 6 of them) totals to 1m per character. There's your 3m per week just for harvesting shit that takes literally less than 30 mins per day.

3. Run EQs and get a shit ton of cubes. Exchange some cubes for normal grinders and sell them to NPC.

4. Run free fields, pick up all the 6* weapons you see and mash the same ones together to make +35 grind fodder. sell for monies. Total costs is roughly 80-100k per +35. Depending on your ship, you can double, triple, or even quadruple that.
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Help, I'm addicted to hero TMG normal attacks.
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Is there a better way to do this? Or any advice on affix changes?
I have about 100m to play with for a full set, already have the Elegants.

http://pso2affix.seilent.net/#!tjsVtCAsNNGtEsgIJGtKsZxFEsa2FrmsJVtDsZJ2MxWPsKVtGsixWDxxOrmsLxWMsbxWIsMxWGxRJyFGsNxWVtizKHxWEtEsfLy7GrmtfsV2hsOGaJM
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>>183916187
That is not going to cost less than 100m.
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>>183916037
I can only play about 4-5 hours a day. I can't farm 12-13 hours a day, I'm sorry.
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>>183916187
If it's slightly over that's fine. Or is there something more cost efficient you'd recommend instead?
Haven't really affixed shit since my old 175/12 Austere set 2 years ago so I'm way out of it when it comes to prices
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>>183916406
Well, that's just your fault for being lazy then. You don't get to complain if you don't want to put in the work.
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>>183916432
Was meant for >>183916253
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Is this pretty standard?
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>>183915876
I have a bad time linking pages, they always break. But how do you mean you give up a lot?

If you have 94 skill points you can max out like, for example, Fire and Ice mastery with fire reduced cast time, still get both charged modifiers, get JA modifier, get Technique High 5/5 and still have like 7 points left over to either A, dump 6 into talis mastery and grab like Tech Up 1 (+4, so prolly not even worth it) or dump the like 6 into Rod Shoot + Rod Charge Keep on your weapon of choice.

Course this is considering that I didn't use Photon Flare before either, I think it's a shitty skill.

The force tree is largly unchanged from what it was, you can just do the same elemental weakness, light, dark, pp conversion as before.
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>>183916406
4-5 hrs a day is more than enough. seriously. Harvesting takes up 30 mins tops for all 3 characters. That's 10 mins each. TACOs take up a bit more time but that is done WEEKLY. Those alone nets you 10m per week. The rest are up to you if you want extra income.
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>>183916738
Sorry meant to say ***TECHER tree about the last part

It's been a long night trying to read moonrunes.
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>>183916742
How do you even go about the harvesting part? I never get anything rare from gathering
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>>183916926

Fish first. Keep fishing until Fever triggers. Then Harvest. BAM! Harvest same node till fever or stamina runs out.
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>>183917120
That's what I do, I never get anything useful. Not to mention I run out of stamina after 3 minutes anyway.
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>>183916887
>>183916738
>>183915876
Actually wait, Techer has 10 whole fucking points free since both Light and Dark mastery 2 caps at 5 now. What is even worth putting points into now? Wind Mastery 1?

Should Force/Techers make the jump to wands now and become kinda like a melee burst character? Cuz you can totally get wand gear, wand lovers, and the reactor by just only having 5 points in T-atk1 and still having full dark light mastery, elemental weakness, pp recovery, and all that usual jazz.
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>>183916187
that's going to cost you like 100m PER UNIT lol
no way you are going to make a full set like that
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>>183917402

Define useful. If you are fishing the right maps, you can literally make millions. You think those 'trash' are actual trash? Look at the cooking recipes. Find the one you'd most likely want coz that's probably what others would want too (especially the try hards) and check visiphone how much the ingredients sell for. BAM!

That's the most spoon feeding I'll give.
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>>183914130
> Weak Attack Critical
For what reason?

Why wouldn't you max out TMG Attack PP Save when TMGs are fucking amazing and overpowered?
Victory Shout / War Brave is pretty okay too.
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ive been gone for school and shit

did i miss boost week?
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So is there any purpose for leveling the other classes now? From what I'm hearing, everyone's pretty much a Hero now and their stats can get way too high even at the earlier levels.
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>>183916738
You don't have that many flex points. I sincerely hope no one plays force without Talis Tech Bonus 5/5 and Force ~probably~ wants the 3 points in rod shoot considering we have a lot more time to fill where compounds+PPC are on cooldown. That's already used up all of the flex points. Dual element means you give up Technique Up 2 for 75 atk and assuming you put the minimum, the 40 and 100atk from photon flare. While atk bonuses like that are minor for most classes, you're conceding 115 to 175 atk (for 75s out of every 100s) any time you aren't making use of both elements in the same quest. Considering how often that happens, I'd choose the extra atk.
As for when you asked about the tech buffs previously, they didn't fill the void that the compound nerf left. Force is bad at sustained single target damage without constant access to compounds, the techs being buffed didn't help with that. Force isn't ok because Nazonde and Rabarta got buffed. Provided, it would be foolish to say Force has been demolished in the first 24 hours, I'm not giving up on my class this soon. I still have things I want to try.
>>183917562
Wand isn't good for Techer right now let alone Force who loses the main class bonus.
>>183918027
Yes and no. You missed the affix + 150% tri boost week. You did not miss the 200% EQ RDR boost week.
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>>183918027
you missed dudu boost+150% quadboost
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>>183918070
Don't fight it. Join the Hero master race.
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>>183918169
fuck thats the one i needed
im trying to get my sub class to 75 but from 56-75 feels painful as fuck
i also needed to cap my weapon off

s-should i quit while im behind
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>>183918209
I want to, I just don't know which of my 3 characters I should focus on as a Hero first.
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>>183918332
The LQs still have 200% triboost or something
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>>183918332
The LQs are still here for several weeks and boosted, the exp is still great and barely behind boost week. Capping weapons is not hard and wasn't helped that much by boost week.
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Post Hero progress.
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>>183918595
>>183918521
i havent played proper in a while
what happened with featured quests and limited quests? i remember for general grinding the last featured quest used to be a decent MPA one but it seems they threw that on its head
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I assume someone's insane enough to have reached 75 with hero already. Do we know if it has a class bonus yet and if so what is it?
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>>183918803
5 pp
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>>183918803
There is no bonus.
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>>183918139
I must be missing something big then with how I played force before.

Ok so granted what you just said, if I drop fire mastery and charge time reduc, you can fit max photon flare, the bonus 200 from photon flare for activating it, the after effect, 3 rod shoot, 5 talis tech, and still have 5/10 on tech attack 2.

And this is using Ice as the ""main"" element from the force tree.

Techer is still, I mean... well so what are you gonna do with the 10 points we get free? 10 points into a better Shifta? Cuz you can take T-atk 1, and 2 maxed, PPC max, PP Restorate max, territory burst, super treatment, 2/5 Territory PP save, Dark + Light mastery 1 and 2, and Elemental Weak Hit max. And still have exactly 10 points left over.

Like do you just take the 10 free PP and call it a day? 10 points in Shifta Advanced? 5 in advanced and like 5 in strike? I mean that's another 10% dmg boost on top of making shifta 13% better.
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>>183918774
The 4th featured quest was level up quest which has been sidelined while the limited quests are in rotation. The LQs are MUCH MUCH better for leveling than they were and this is the easiest leveling has been in a long time. They're only here for a few more weeks so you should hurry up if you can. LQ2 and LQ1~4 are the best for exp. You also get 50 star gems from a title for the first S rank on XH for each of them.
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>>183918652
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What Talis would be good for Hero? Would upgraded Quotz be okay?
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>>183916187
i used this on qliphs. just swap stam4 for doom breaker if u want that, and change noble to stam. it'll probably be way more risky now without dudu boost.

goo.
gl/uPU3Yu
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>>183919189
*noble to elegant
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>>183918932
>>183918139

I don't know if this shit will break again, but this is what I mean.

http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?

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Does anyone know if the expert only setting works? It seems when I enable it I can only find a very small amount of groups on all blocks. I have a feeling the way it works is others have to have it enabled in order to play with them. The only problem is that the experts aren't enabling it for some reason.
I think this was an absolute failure of an implementation and it should be reverted.
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>>183919779
Where do you even turn it on? I can't find it anywhere
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>>183918932
>>183919440
Just as a head's up, you will want to be fire for episode 5. The majority of enemies including the final boss of buster quest is solely fire weak. Anyway, this is more or less what Force trees will look like in ep5, yes. Dual element isn't worth giving up all of that atk, especially since you can line up Photon Flare with compounds most of the time. For Techer it's a lot more flexible, I haven't decided what I'm going to do. I want to play with the wind buffs before anything to see if tri-element on Techer is worth it vs 10PP. I wouldn't put the 7 extra points in T-atk Up 1 in Te tree since it's 40atk for 7 points and I feel like there has to be something better in the tree, I just don't know what yet.
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>>183920107
Ah. I have no idea where you could find the 10 points to get fire cast time reduction though. I guess you have to gut photon flare.

If you take Flare itself down to 3/10 and reduce your t-atk 2 back to like 1 point again you can get Fire Mastery 1/2 and the cast time reduction 10/10.you lose 140 t-atk on photon flare and like 21 t-atk from 2, but you gain the 50% reduced cast time so it's prolly 100% worth it.
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>>183920821
You take the points away from Photon Flare, yes. T-atk Up 2 is an option but I'll probably just end up never putting points in it and prefer to just dump it all in photon flare for compound synergy + higher average t-atk anyway. It's not that incredible so taking points away isn't a big deal as long as you leave the three, it's just miles better than gimping yourself with dual elements. You don't realistically use Ice + Fire or Ice + Lightning in enough quests to justify destroying your tree like that. For new players I can forgive it but anyone who plays Force as a main or something already has multiple skill trees.
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Symphogear collab when?
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>>183921130
I'm still fairly new to the game (only about two weeks in) and sitting at like 60/40 for class levels, it's been a struggle since I don't have compounds and I've been trying to find a goal to work on. Thanks for all the info and idea sharing.

I'm a little sad that my +25 ice weapon is now kinda worthless, and I never even though about the using a rod just for rod shoot +5pp regen, but now I guess I need to find like two new weapons with fire element as I work on leveling still.
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>>183921520
That's the life of Force. You still maintain weapons of every element if you can in case they decide to add new content of a specific element. Ice is one of the better elements for mismatching as well. Rod shoot PP regen isn't that incredible but it will probably be nice to have the 3 points at least. You mentioned not putting points in talis mastery a while ago, you should learn how to use talis. The ideal force uses both talis and rod as they are better than the other in certain situations. Don't sweat getting a rainbow palette any time soon, my palette has weapons going back to over a year ago since I haven't gotten to replace them yet and they haven't needed to be replaced.
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>>183921851
Ive used Talis Tech Bonus for a while, I've gotten pretty good at using audio ques to know when it's charged if I can't see it, and since JA is still on your own character that's really easy to see and do.

Talis bonus just kinda blows dick for half of the ice spells. Barta is a slug and just plops out, gibarta only shoots forwards from where you threw the talis (which is a joke, considering half the other cone/directional techs, when used with a deployed talis, gain 360 degree coverage, but nah, not THAT spell) and all that jazz. I thought you went rod OR talis, is what I was getting at. But doing both makes sense too.
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>>183922348
No one recommends doing solely rod or talis, you always want both. You're right that certain techs cast better on a rod vs a talis, it works both ways. There's also just situations where even if a tech casts from both perfectly fine, you want to use one or the other. Compounds also want to be cast from a rod since talis tech bonus won't apply there.
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>YOSHI YOSHI YOSHI YOSHI TOTEMO YOSHI
Why is Karin so cute
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>hero iron will is 100%
what the fuck, does that mean that you just can't die or am i missing something ? is there a cooldown?
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Will i be able to go hero right off the bat with a new character if I already have the titles?
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>>183922801
Once per quest iirc.
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>>183922858
Yes, as soon as you can use a character to pick Hero; all your characters have access.
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>Kranos shadow base has gone up 800k in the past couple of hours
Can you all fuck off with buying it and let the shitters undercut so the price drops again
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>>183923276
but it looks so good with a scarf and no cape / coat
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>>183922801
It's one time per "life". After it triggers once it won't trigger again until after you died and are revived.
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>suddenly a thicc slut out of fucking nowhere
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so is hero deliberately OP, or is it getting nerfed soon?
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>>183924538
>thicc
where?
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>>183924538
>fighter
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>>183924538
>thicc
are you fucking retarded?
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>>183924704
in your pants
>>183924726
an hero
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>>183924698
deliberately op, might get nerfed
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do I even really need other weapons on hero with TMG being so overpowered?
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Someone said you could limit your MPAs to expert-eligible players only, how do you actually do that?
Can't find an option for it and I dread being stuck with complete shitters during Garcia&co from now on
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>>183924864
yes?
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>>183924698
Deliberately OP. I wonder if they saw how much of a failure Summoner launch and populations numbers were and didn't want to repeat it. Instead of releasing summoner weak and buffing it later, just release hero OP and nerf it later after everyone's tried it and has favorable opinions of it. I wish they didn't have to destroy other classes to do this though
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>>183924864
>that sword ki charge damage
literally everything on hero is broken
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>>183924698
deliberately OP, will be buffed
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>>183925083
So for how long do you think we'll get to have fun with hero until Sega takes a dump on it?
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>>183924876
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>>183925296
you mean like when they took a dump on fighter this patch?
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Hero seems... really, really busted.

I'm not even having fun. It feels like I'm cheating or something. Playing with other heroes is somehow even worse, too, since everything evaporates on contact with anyone.
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>>183925346
fighter was nowhere near as busted as hero is
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>>183925097
People keep saying this but it's really not any more broken than Fi is.
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>hero will get more pas before BO
>wb jamming will be reintroduced and will reduce wb modifier to 1.1
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>>183925326
Oh neat, thanks. I found it now.
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>>183925419
ok then play Bo
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>>183925346
they never let busted shit at the start of an episode survive for very long
see: s-roll, shunka
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>>183924538
Why, when are you going to stop being a gay degenerate and behave like a normal human being? Also fix that ugly as shit body.
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>>183925749
>Lilith so salty
Kill self lilith
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>>183925723
so why did fighter get buffed
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FIGHTER GOT BUFFED AND I MISSED OUT ON IT?
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>>183925723
Do you even remember how long it took them to nerf shunka?
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>>183926012
Yeah, there's also this new class called "Hero"
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>3 days ago, have my eye on this sword skin for my hunter
>build up enough money to finally get it
>hero update came out and every last one on the market got bought out

fucking herofags
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Honestly I think Hero is less op and more people are using a class they've been actually gearing up for. That goes for randoms as well. It doesn't really feel much stronger than my Gu or Br did.
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>>183926701
You are delusional if you actually think that. Even before I could equip my Qlip gear I was already putting out numbers pretty comparable to my GuHu, I'm 73 now and absolutely shitting on anything I could do on it before Ep5.
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>>183926701
There's no way you really believe this, right? This is a troll post, right? Or did you just not gear your main classes and buy all Qlips and spend 300m affixing hero?
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>>183926865
Are there XH parses yet
I guessss wee'lll know 4 suer theeen
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>>183926865
>>183926987
>Acting like Hero is super broken when Fis can put out comparable numbers at like twice the speed per hit
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which is more fun- ranger or gunner?
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>>183927704
Ranger relies on Massive Hunter to do anything and definitely feels like a class that was made years ago
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>>183927558
okay then lol
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>>183927704
hero__
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>>183927558
That's something a lot of people don't get for some reason. Hero is a top 3 class for sure but it's not like it's as much cause for alarm as people in this thread make it out to be.
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>>183927704
I'd say Gunner, but, they play quite differently despite both being "gun" classes
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>>183927901
The majority of classes in the game don't compare to the top classes at all as half of them just got heavily nerfed or received no help at all. No kidding people are going to be mad.
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>>183927704
gunner for DMC cosplay or ranger for a more traditional shooter class
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>>183927901
Reminds me of
>GUYS DO YOU SEE HOW MUCH DAMAGE I SHIT OUT JUST SPAMMING WITH PHOTON BLADE FEVER ON
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>>183927704
Ranger is all about optimizing the time you can stand still and turret while Gunner is about staying mobile and getting up in people's faces while staying airborn and doing matrix shit.
Most people will probably agree that Gunner is a lot more fun, it's definitely much more active than just standing still and tanking hits while charging PAs
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>>183928095
>>183928131
It's just because it's a new class. Give it a week and people will stop crying op and things will go back to the norm.
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What are the new choices when you click on a skill tree?

Like if you click on the tree there's a box with two options, top option just refreshes the tree or someshit and I dont think it does anything, second option opens a new dialogue box with a buncha text and two buttons.
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>>183928421
You mean the norm where people complain that their class does 30-40% less damage than the best ones? Because there's going to be even more of that considering how wild they went while leaving Fi untouched and adding Hero. Bow Braver doesn't fucking exist any more dude
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Dante the class
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Is hero even safe to invest gear into? It's bound to get (over)nerfed very, very quickly
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>>183928708
The good thing is you can still use your Hero gear on every other class you don't have a dedicated set for and lose very little.
Unless you already have very good S-, R-, and T-Atk sets it's really not a bad idea at all imho
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>>183922559
I'm knowledgeable enough to know I need to get crafted techs ASAP, but nobody seems to fill out the work orders I place.

Since I guess fire is the go-to this time around, what shit should I get first? I have a few ice and utility ones (mostly for plus range and shit) but since the class kinda got flipped on it's head for some stuff I dunno what I should get first since I cant just craft it myself.
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>>183928564
>Bow braver doesn't fucking exist any more dude
>Implying it did in the first place
I've probably seen less than 10 bow bravers in 600+ hours of playing this game before the nerfs. Stop acting like it was alive and well even before this.
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>Hero receiving the combined hatred of all the classes he stole weapons from, Bow Braver for being introduced right after Banish nerf, some more angry Fighters, and Force
A ragtag bunch of nerfed classes causing massive riots at Sega HQ. Episode staff being cast out the window perfect two minutes apart.
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>>183928876
charge time reduction nafoie
power rafoie
charge time reduction gifoie
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the bottom option is sega's "Recommended" skill tree, it'll override your own with what they think is best for your class

(which isnt a good idea)
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>>183928910
It was in a fairly good spot before the nerfs. It had its niches on Elder and Magatsu where most TMPAs would almost definitely bring one to burst shit down quickly, but it also did very good damage just normally doing Mommy and Deus, obviously not SuGu levels, but it was easily above average and I enjoyed playing it a lot.
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>>183929105
>it'll override
wait I thought it just filled in with whatever points you had left, does it actually rewrite the whole thing?
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>>183928869
Not really though, since the only good units I have are austeres, and you can only really get away with using those on hero, everything else wants 12*s for the ring slots
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>>183929248
自動的にスキルポイントを振り直します。
よろしいですか?
※習得済みスキルも含め
スキルツリーが上書きされます。

the bottom part says it will override everything including skills that are maxed
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>>183929105
>(which isnt a good idea)
If this is the same trees they have on their site then they are very solid meta-builds though. You could do a hell of a lot worse than following those and the couple points that are up for debate are just incredibly niche utility stuff that doesn't make a lick of a difference 9 times out of 10.
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>>183928910
>stop complaining your class got nerfed because it already sucked!
I hope your class gets nerfed just as much so you can show us how stoic you are
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>>183929423
I never said he couldn't complain. I just said acting like it wasn't shit before the nerfs is stupid.
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>>183929371
You can't get away with Austere on Hero, what the fuck are you talking about?
Infact Hero is one of the classes that has the most use for L Rings.

You should really get some Zenesis/Qlip Units and affix those, they aren't that hard to come by.
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>>183929568
Okay, but they're still literally all I have. I've never seen a 12* unit drop in the entire time I've played the game. Not for a lack of trying, mind you.
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>>183929568
What the fuck? Air reversal and step jump are the only rings that will do anything worthwhile on hero. If anything, Austere is the best set for hero.
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>>183929568
>they aren't that hard to come by
I feel like this is kind of an unfair statement to make considering it's pure RNG, and there are plenty of players who've never had a Zeinesis unit drop. Hard to come by implies it's a matter of skill or effort, when you really just have to be lucky.
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Reminder to set it to match with other experts so you can actually clear Gracia
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>>183929883
Not him but I've done shit tons of Escas and haven't gotten a single zein unit so you're not wrong.
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Is the requirement for deus XH 70 or 75?
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>>183928421
Balance is in an even worse place now than it was pre-patch and there was a ton of complaining going on.
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>>183930198
75 for both your main class and subclass (Hero exempted from the latter)

80 for both for the four man rematch at the :30 mark afterwards
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>Have a level 75 hero in my Deus party
A U T I S M
U
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S
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so leaving aside hero how is katana now? anyone try the new shunka?
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>>183930491
Just EXP tickets and bonus keys with brief respites to take care of the the level cap gates
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>>183930491
The LQ literally gives you like 1m exp a pop, it's really not hard.
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>>183930073
SEGA's RNG is deliberately fucked for whatever reason.
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>>183930605
>wasting keys before 75
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>>183930073
Meh, I did Mother the other day with no boosts on and got an Astra unit

RNG be RNG
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>>183930806
With the current set of LQs up its not really a waste since you can grind them on XH earlier.
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>someone with 14* DS and anga mag
Why do some people get all the luck
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>Do Multiblock matching to try it
>Load in
>Everybody can move but me
>I have the like connectiong spinning circle going perpetually
>Apparently the MPA is only 4/12
What the fuck is this
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>recruit party in lobby
>open campship
>EQ starts
>try to immediately switch to EQ from campship
>get some really weird menu that's all in Japanese
>press one of the buttons, it kicks one of my partymembers for some reason
>end up in an EQ MPA with literally nobody but the 3 of us
What the fuck just happened? Did Sega just make this thing a lot more complicated than it needs to be?
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>there are people in my team that are already level 76 hero
fucking hell, slow the fuck down.
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>>183931496
Welcome to gaijinping the game!
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>>183931659
You had what I did >>183931496
You picked multi block matching which apparently is fucking broken because it softlocked my game and I had to restart it.
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>>183931404
he probably bought the Anga mag
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>>183931659
When you select multiblock matching the people in your party have to ready up otherwise they get booted if the leader chooses to proceed

Doesn't quite explain why you were alone afterwards though
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>>183931404
I don't know anon, I keep getting zein units to the point of almost having enough for three characters while my pug buddy haven't gotten a single one to drop. I'm starting to get convinced that rng in this game is tied to accounts somehow.
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>3 heroes in the MPA
>fastest deus esca pub i've ever had
:thinking:
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>no hero skill that causes gear generation while using a lobby action near enemies

Missed opportunity.
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>>183925749
Don't worry I'll wear more clothes now
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>CF at 100%
>Deus doesn't drop anything
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>>183933117
it's got to be one of the things he can drop and not like, the excube or the other thing
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>>183931850
So everyone has to ready up before you can even transfer? Won't the delay means that you could even up not finding an MPA? There's also the risk that one of your partymates might be afk for a few second while they're waiting for the EQ to start.
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>>183933380
It was the 12* in the top left, and it was at 100% before the fight
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>>183932038
>tfw no zein units
>tfw no fueses
>tfw no 13* drops
12* units are rigged bullshit
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>>183933426
The whole point of the cross-block thing is to find isolated groups on other blocks who need more players to fill

It's possible you won't find anyone but if you wait too far long, I suppose, but a slight delay shouldn't be too much of an issue.
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>>183932220
>3 heroes in the MPA
>Average clear time if not slower than usual
:thinking:
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>>183933550

Yo, same shit happened to me, 100% CF, 12* weapon, no drop.

>>183932038
I keep getting fucking nox weapons and those shits have a lower chance to drop according to the item record. Rigged shit
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>>183934019
you're less likely to get any single particular nox over a zein unit but there are so many of them it's more likely you get any nox weapon over any zein unit
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>Use 3 EQs worth of excubes on FUN to try and get a shop ticket
>Get fucking nothing
WHAT THE FUCK SEGA I JUST WANT TO SELL STUFF STOP JEWING ME
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Is there a way to change the attribute on a weapon? Like if it's Light can I make it dark? Or do I have to just find a new weapon that is dark to begin with and go from there?
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>>183935003
Yes. There are element changer items you can use on them that you can buy in the player shops.
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>dump all my valuable stuff on the visiphone for low prices
>nobody buys any of it
but why
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>>183935127
Are you sure it's actually valuable
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>>183935253
well no I don't have anything actually all that valuable
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>force, bouncer and techer party for Gracia
I sure wish people would stop playing fucking leech classes in content you can fail
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So is Shunka,Asagiri and Hien Tsubaki worth using on EQ bosses now or is Endo 0> Gekka still better?
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>>183935442
that's probably why it's not selling
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Nice game
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>>183933714
>>183934019
I honestly wish sega would fix it. I'm pretty sure I'm going to get hated by the one guy who actually run shit with me.
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>>183935797
nice meme comp
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Any offensive techs I should be using with Hero talis?
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>>183934019
seems weird since im getting CF stuff from other quests also to top it off
>had to 3man gracia because some fuck decided to leave as count down was going
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So what rings are you guys using on Hero?
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>>183936289
Hero casting is garbage
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TMG Attack PP Save even worth it? I feel like it doesn't do enough dmg, so I don't really use it, and rather use the PAs.
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>>183936458
For L I have Step Jump on a unit, tried to use Tech Charge Parrying but it doesn't work so I might as well get Air Reversal
For R I'm thinking Tech Arts JAPPS until I know what Hero Effort Symbol does
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>>183936992
>Until I know what Hero Effort Symbol does
I would assume it does the same as literally every other effort symbol ring
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>>183936697
Hero does more damage with techs than Fo/Te with masteries.
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>>183936765
The damage is amazing. If you're not abusing TMG normals, you're doing it wrong.
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>>183937479
so what, you don't even use PAs, you just hold down LMB?
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>>183937328
Does this hold true even at max level? I've been using hero as a tech user but I'm only level 58. The tmg pp reload makes pp regeneration quite a non issue.
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>>183937328
Nonsense, hero doesn't have nearly the same level of tech modifiers in its skills.
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>>183937328
video proof or i'm calling bullshit
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>>183937328
Amazing balance from Sega as always.
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whats the new block now that 45 is gone?
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>>183937897
44
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>>183937834
Makes sense since it's also a better sword and tmg wielder than their original classes.
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Any hero skill tree recommendation?
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so as braver do i just sakura > gekka spam?
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>>183938285
there's really not that much you can fuck up on
don't take the defensive skills
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>>183888161
Seriously whats that for
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>>183939030
>Don't take the defensive skills
Not him but does that include flash guard? It seems like that would be pretty nice to have.
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>>183939119
it's just a 10% decrease at max and your battle plan is to not get hit to get your bonus up--i also have an izane, so i don't take it and instead put it towards all attack up
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>>183937791
>>183937683
>>183937830
>>183937834
I personally tested level ~50 Hero against 80/80 Fo/Te, Te/Fi, and Fo/Fi. It outdamaged Fo/Te and Te/Fi and was beaten by Fo/Fi. At level 80 it probably beats Fo/Fi too.

Hero has massive stats to start with, and then it has massive multipliers as well. The two Hero Weapon Bonus skills give 1.5x damage each for a total of 2.25x. That's all I tested with, but Hero also has Hero Boost that gives up to 1.6x after a period of time, Hero Time that gives some other form of attack boost (I'm not quite sure how this works), and there's also All Tech PP Save which gives -20% PP costs.
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>level 67 He
>hmm, I wonder if this ki blast will do any damage fully charged, probably not
>104k
Jesus, the amount of on demand DPS He has is insane. Not to mention Hero time finish with sword does like 999k a hit with Qilphad sword
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>>183939691
HE
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>>183939085
You vendor it for a whopping 500 meseta each. Why Sega felt the need to add this I have no idea, in doing my dailies I got three to drop
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So, uh, how is Maron now? How many hits necessary to reach strike level 3?
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so what exactly do you need to do to become hero? My shits all greyed out still.
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>>183939617
This is great, so I can just keep playing techs on my hero then and abandon force. Who needs compounds anyways.
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>can't buy donuts from Xie anymore
FUCK
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>>183940234
go to the sg recycle shop, lady to the left. she got all the badges stuff.
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>>183940029
They explained earlier that they significantly reduced/removed the number of trash drops (1~3*) in the game that could be vendored for meseta and the meseta crystals were added to compensate for that
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>>183940135
Just replace your compound techs with the Hero Time talis finisher.
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>>183940234
Shop moved to the badge recycle shop. Be mindful of the fact that they expire soon, though.
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This is getting ridiculous
>People bitch and moan about Fighter outputting tons of DPS on top of the various ways you can cheese LB
>No no you don't get it Fighter is much harder to play than pleb classes it deserves the damage it gets even if it outdamages several classes just by using DS outside of Limit Break. I bet you use automated halfline too
>Hero releases
>Does most probably more damage than Fighter and the only hard part is just not getting hit too much in Hero time which is easier Limit Break
>Also does more damage without Hero Time than probably everything besides Fighter
>No no you don't understand it requires you to grind more exp than ordinary classes
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>>183940128
talk to koffie and accept the client order for hero unlock
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>>183940386
t. mad as fuck fighter
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>>183940292
>>183940339
Thanks, anons.
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>>183940386
It's like they just took the best parts of every class and gave it to hero except better.
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>>183940386
>advanced class
>stronger than basic classes
Sounds reasonable to me.
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>>183940386
It doesn't deal more damage though. Stop talking out of your ass.
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>>183940567
>the best part of Bo was the fact that you could jump in midair/off an enemy's head

lmfao
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>>183940449
She doesn't have it. There's an untranslated quest that gave me a sub unit and that's it.
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>>183940597
If you want to do more damage just because you grinded more exp then add infinite leveling
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>>183940743
I mean if you want to be straight up stupid I can't really help you.
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>>183940678
Let's be honest, bouncer does literally nothing else that other classes can't do better. Hero didn't have a lot it could steal from Bo.
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>Play PSO2 for a while
>Would occasionally get someone in my party that I recognize by name at this point
>They would never have max element weapons
>Take a month or so break and come back for Hero
>See that person in the lobby
>Inspect gear
>20 element 13*
Why do people not understand this shit
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Hero seems very strong but there's too much theorycrafting and not enough first-hand practical experience going on in here
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>EP2
>Techer was actually advanced Force class
>Was worse
Hmmm
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>>183940989
There's a reason it's a healslut class.
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>>183940386
It literally doesn't out damage fighter though calm down ficuck you're still number 1
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>>183940724
check the title counter
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>fo and ficucks assblasted by HERO
Good episode so far.
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>>183940989
Fighter, Gunner, and Techer were called "advanced" classes but in practical terms they were intended to be alternative play style classes rather than straight upgrades
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There is literally nothing more fun than Hero right now.
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>>183941367
I don't think Sega even consider them as advanced classes now since in the hero trailer they referred to hero as the first advanced class if I'm not mistaken.
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>>183941367
Sega didn't even give a statement on what Hero was supposed to be. In general developers would get tons of hate mail if they straight up said that the class is supposed to be more powerful because it's harder unlock. Hero is supposed to be alternative playstyle most likely by combining all the attack types, but there is no reason for it to be more powerful.

Like One Way Heroics had tons of unlockable classes yet they weren't necessarily any more powerful than Swordsman. Ironically the only overpowered shit then was Hero but at least they had ridiculous multipliers on side and back attack taken, and honestly Swordsman could shit more damage still I think.
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>>183940386
Hero PAs are pretty bad, and the fact that you have to combo them in order to get any decent gear gain makes it worse
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>>183941481
Evil heroes when?
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>>183941771
LEL
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>>183941771
you don't need PAs when you can just hold down normal attack on TMGs
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>>183941612
Hero is an Expert class. The same word they used for the expert blocks and so on. I have no idea where people pulled "they called it an advanced class" from to be honest
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>>183942089
Ah my bad, I thought it said advanced instead of expert for some dumb reason.
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>>183941159
She doesn't have anything for me, still can't be a hero.
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>>183940927
We're busy leveling but that doesn't stop me from noticing I'm hitting the fucking damage cap on a non-75 character.
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Any tips on 8 slotting an AIS sword? Is there some trick or do I just need to have insane luck?
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>>183942197
I'm certain you aren't the only one to have made that mistake either
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>>183942224
check if you're on EP4-5, also try talking to Xiao
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>>183942276
if you got to 7 just stick with that. 8 is hell.
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>>183942276
The trick is having thousands of excubes and getting lucky
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Shifting everyone at the counter over a space throws me off

I keep talking to the ARKS League slut instead of the Daily Order slut
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>>183942681
fucking THIS
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>>183940927
I’m level 50
I killed every boss in area 5 of 1-4 in Hero Time in about 10-15 seconds
With sub units that aren’t affixed
I don’t even wanna imagine what this shit is gonna do at 80 with properly affixed shit
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>>183942681
i keep fucking talking to koffie instead of quest lady
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>>183942365
I am, and I have. Still cannot be hero.
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>>183943034
You tried moving towards to the campship area so that koffie popup appears right?
other than that i am curious why your koffie client list does not include the "lvl 1 of each class type" quest at all
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>>183943473
Not him but I had to start a quest and abandon to get it to pop up.
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>>183918803
+10 all atk and +1 PP
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My only 13-star TMGs are Orbit the Mother guns, should I farm for Valkyrie R25 since Hero is very crit heavy?
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>>183944449
>Hero is very crit heavy
huh?
>>
>5 (five) people doing LQs on the whole ship
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>All this talk about Hero
>Nobody talking about Sword's weapon action
Don't sleep on this it's actually good as fuck. Especially if you get the combo skill.
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>>183945367
how does the combo thing work? i don't understand how to make it charge faster
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>>183945585
attack then use it and you'll see.
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>>183945585
It instantly goes to the mid charge if you use it after a normal attack or PA. You can continue holding it to go to the full kamehameha if you want.
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>>183944847
skill means you have 65% crit for a weak point/element weakness hit, that's more than Katana Gear
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>>183945737
>>183945751
oh ok i didn't actually notice, i thought it helped with the max charge
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>>183945903
It does, in the sense that you save the time you'd normally spend charging to mid-level first.
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>talis weapon action fucking sticks to an enemy unless they die or teleport, lasts for over a minute and through weapon swaps, and has huge range
>you can just throw it somewhere safe then do a combo and teleport out of danger
>TWICE
holy shit why are these all so good
>>
>>183943473
>>183943925
I wish I knew too since Tech hero is better than any tech class.

But whatever I guess.
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Whats with this episode 0 memory exchange? How do you get the tickets?
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EP5 and Hero are fucking dumb, but at least they're not EP4 and Summoner.
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Fucking Christ 8 slotting is a bitch.
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So do hero talis PAs suck or is it just me.
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>>183947336
Just you.
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how many weapons of the same type do you generally need to max a 13 star?
6 to unlock +35, and I hear you need to feed your weapon the same weapon from 30 to 35
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>>183947754
>you need to feed your weapon the same weapon from 30 to 35
nope
>>
>Run to start a quest
>Heading straight for Koffie
>Realize it and adjust course
I'm learning!
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>>183947336
Talis can't be used as a main weapon like the other two can. You're meant to use talis and then switch to another weapon.
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Is soloing the LQs the best way to grind exp from 40-75? I 2 manned XH LQ2 with a Hero before and I needed to be in LB to keep up with their damage output so I don't doubt they can do it quickly, I just don't know if the exp is worth it.
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>>183945751
Is the aura sphere skill or whatever its named worth ?i just spam weapon action in order to get pp back rather than actually use it to get some damage in
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Sword or TMG for HR lads?
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>>183948454
Both, the only weapon you can disregard for now is talis
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>>183946575
I think you get those things from buying the magazine that the Episode 0 manga is in or something like that
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>>183947834
god damn what is it with people in this general and lying through their teeth

Well, at least I know Im done with Aura now. Just gotta get a bunch of 12 stars, grind em and feed em
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>>183947754
Grinding from 30 to 35 works like any other weapon. Just shove whatever in and it'll get there eventually, up to whatever its current cap is.

To boost a weapon's grinding cap requires more of the same weapon. CF rewards will always start at 30, but if you're lucky enough to get the item to drop outright they can already have a cap of anywhere from 31 to 34, so less copies are required
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People really put all of their eggs in one basket for hero, huh? Nearly every hero I see is using Qliphad Sword and most have Qliphad TMG as well.
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>>183948179
I think their intention is for you to cast techs with the talis.
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>>183948845
>god damn what is it with people in this general and lying through their teeth
it's always magical when you get three or more answers to a question with a single objectively correct answer
>>
Where is chaotic roar of the dragon and how do I take this quest?
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>>183948454
Definitely TMG.
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>Hitting 150-200k on a boss with a level 3 sword weapon action on Hero
Fireball only MPAs when
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>>183949329
Out of the game at least until the event LQs go away
Although you'll find most of what you need in the LQs there are some notable exceptions
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So how are these new Forno weapons
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>This weapon camo
Where did it come from? I've never seen it before and I don't see it in any scratches.
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>people that steal others looks
>someone stole my look on both my characters
>other people now wear the same
I want to fucking explode
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>>183950434
recent magazine item code, I think
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>>183950621
Well fuck. I wish it wasn't so expensive because it's perfect for the granblue esque look I'm trying to do.
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>>183950590
>Be original and creative
>Have a ton of swag always
>Popular twitter friend decides to copy me
You can guess what happened after that
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>>183950434
>700k meseta
I know that struggle
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>>183950434
that looks awful
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>>183951015
It looks like a sword that's not overdesigned which makes it perfect.
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Now that there are no more expert blocks, how do you line up for EQs? How do you make a room in a campship that is only for expert players, or find someone who is only looking for expert players?
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>>183951098
Expert matching is such a shit show, i think sega did this just so that were forced back to carrying these leechers
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>>183951064
It looks like a plastic medieval sword you'd find in a toy isle or halloween costume shop
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>>183951265
>Back to carrying these leechers
Look man don't act like "expert" blocks weren't full of them already. The requirements were always a joke and might as well have not existed after revamped Yamato released. Elitism over something so small is retarded.
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>>183950164
So where do I find Goronzorans or whatever? Digg's are easy to find.
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>>183951098
It's under matching settings, you check a box
>>183951265
They actually are doing this for buster quests, the version you can run unlimited can't filter for expert players
>>183951408
You've never pubbed outside of expert blocks if you think run quality is the same. There's a reason they nerfed Deus Esca and that's because a large majority of non-expert block runs were failing
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>Hero can do the same damage or more as FoTe without having to resort to rainbow weapon bullshittery
Finally, I found my own EPD class.
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>>183951431
high level extreme quests are the only way to do it efficiently without completely demolishing your meseta supply
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>>183951408
I would rather have those leechers over people that cant even bother to get gear to BE ABLE to clear 1-5.
Believe it or not, there's a ton of players that can't clear this.
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>>183951265
>tfw new
>tfw everytime i join an EQ i dont even get to do damage because everything dies too fast

does this change at 75
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>>183951630
>Not playing alone
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>>183951630
It will.
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>>183951431
Stage 57 of Forest and Dragons XQ
Stage 7 of Corrupted Boundary Solo XQ

There's also Dragon Altar's Super Hard Advance Quest with +8 or more risk, but it's not guaranteed there
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>Block full
>Literally nobody with seeking party as a status, trying to form a party, or looking for one
What the fuck is going on
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This is definitely how hard a level 44 should be hitting with an ability that has no cooldown.
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>>183952000
How about the Infiltration Ruin or whatever? TACO. One or two spawn in there don't they?
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>>183952517
I don't even hit that high and I'm level 55. Either you hit strong weak point and you're being a shit stirring little faggot or you have absurd gear.
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>>183952654
I hit wolgahda face and am using an old mag I fucked up and never fixed to get the dex to wear my units early.
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As Braver do i just spam Sakura Endo and Gekka
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>>183952848
So you hit a strong weak point. His face is weak as fuck.
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>>183952595
level isn't high enough, SH is only 65 I think
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>>183952850
Guren, spawnkill Kazan0 and Sakura End0
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>Hero gets the vast majority of its damage mods in the first 30 levels
>People talking about how much damage they're doing at a low level
Are they all just retarded or something?
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>check expert matching option
>time for beach
>get matched to some vita block
>2/12
>this other guy has gal units and a nox
fuck off sega
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I KEEP GETTING INTO 4/12 ROOMS THAT DON'T FILL UP. WHAT IS THIS SHIT?
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>>183952517
Hero is pretty high up there, but it is not broken like marron was.
https://youtu.be/kCuF_LR68ro
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>>183953157
>>183953215
Its flawed as hell
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>>183953157
>>183953215
Don't use multi block matching just match with current block like before the update
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>>183953545
Generally you don't want to multi-block match unless you do it the regular block way and end up 4/12 in the first place
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Japs hate the matchmaking too. I hope they bitch enough for Sega to bring back expert blocks.
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>fighters being styled on by HERO
Stay mad niggers
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>>183953791
>first full blocks
>4/4 experts
>all japanese
>"let's try expert matching"
>12:00
>4/12
GJ SEGA
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>>183953791
It just straight up does not work
>>
I swear i am being matched with non experts. there is no way this beach wars should last 20 minutes.
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http://pso2.jp/players/news/20115/

7/27 About the phenomenon that some items do not drop in specific emergency quest

Currently, we have confirmed that there is a phenomenon in which some items are not dropped in an emergency quest, and we are conducting an investigation.

We are very much troubled by everyone until the solution, but please wait for a while until restoration.
>>
Why does every Fornis get harder and harder to fill up? Please say that the 200% RDR week applies to beach wars and not just boss EQs, there's no way I'm going to get all the fornis I want at this rate.
>>
>Literally so much emper fodder that my storage is full
What the fuck do I do with all of this
>>
>>183955217
Sell it for mad bucks.
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>>183955175
>Does the Emergency Quest 200% RDR boost only apply to the Emergency Quests it lists or does it also apply to these other things it doesn't mention
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>tfw you get excited for a second but then realize that its one of those stupid dex weapons
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>>183953791
They just need to fix it, it's certainly not working properly right now.
>>
>>183953060
Considering hero does more dps than most 80/80 classes before it's even hit 75, I would say it's an issue yes.
>>
>Over 40k FUN spent trying to get a shop ticket
>Nothing
I'm literally out of excubes now what the fuck game
>>
>>183956321
Spoiler: it doesn't
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>everyone running around in swimsuits
Its a nice time. Love events that make everyone dress in a theme
>>
Are the Yamato weapons from the new CF any good?
>>
>>183956643
>hero doesn't need to worry about any PA discs or crafts
>Force needs to redo half of their tech crafts
It feels like they're insulting everyone that isn't playing hero
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>>183956643
i dont own a swimsuit :3
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>>183957072
>>183957072
>>183957072
>>183957072
>>183957072
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Where do i find the last enemy for stratos first skill point CO?
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