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Defiant Honour Edition

DLC information
>http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Dragon+of+the+North
>http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Defiant+Honor

>Nothing on Fextralife yet
>http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-07-10-niohs-second-expansion-is-coming-this-month

Latest Patch Notes
>http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Patches

>What does each element do?
http://nioh.wiki.fextralife.com/Status+Effects

>What should I do with the armour/weapons I don't want/use?
Purple/Blue = Disassemble (Then use the blue mats to forge a purple if you have enough)
Yellow/White = Sell or you can give it to the kodamas for amrita and the odd free item.

>What does the summoning candle do?
It returns your guardian spirit to you when you die along with the amrita you collected.

>Should I use soul match?
Honestly, no, not unless you have basically finished the game and have a weapon with some really great stats. As you progress you will get a steady flow of new weapons and armour that is better than what you have. Don't waste your money on soul matching until later.

>Why do people keep mentioning "smithing texts"?
Bosses tend to drop pieces of their armour and weapons when you defeat them. Very rarely they will drop a smithing text which allows you to forge their armour/weapon.

>Which clan should I join? (clan unlocked through progression)
Whichever one has a bonus that you think will benefit your build the most.

Beta guide:
http://pastebin.com/VEHby7kd

Smithing text list:
https://pastebin.com/d4gaLiHk

Ton of new shit has happened whilst you faggots were gone
>Umbracite is now a thing. Use it to pick the Reforges you want
>Silabar ingots are also now a thing. Forge them at the blacksmith with Patronage points for a makeshift soulstone
>Can now use patronage to Soul match. You can now use those extra levels Old man or Waifu wouldn't accept
>Clans have improved stats across the board. Equipment can now be traded for Honour using the 'Donations' function
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bump-a-rump
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Well first boss of the dlc was piss easy.
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>>183791453
>piss easy
how the fuck do i break his guard?
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>>183791652
Well I don't know. I just swing my axe and the enmy dies.
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>>183791727
ok managed to cheese him with tachi+suzaku
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Nioh time.

I have played since before the first DLC dropped I am trying to mimic this build to get through Way of the Strong and clear the first DLC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMKPnoh0hQ&t=183s

How difficult is this to mimic? Is it still good?
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Bumping thread
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Oh shit Hiraishi armor seems pretty good. Set bonus gives 1400 hp.
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Any new armor sets that give bonuses to odachis?
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Thoughts on tonfas? I think they're pretty worthless.
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>>183800237
pretty bad if you're fighting a mob
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YEA WE ARE BACK SENPAI
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bump for mothfu
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Are there only 2 transformations in this DLC?
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>>183801881
new difficulty only?
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aside from the tonfas , are there more new wepons? for kat dual kats axe...etc new armors?
i havent touched nioh since the firs dlc how do i get the material that let me roll for specific stats?
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Is there only one set bonus for all the new rarity items wtf?
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m8 you can't just bring the general back without telling anyone
can't play the DLC yet but looked at the trophy list earlier, it's nice that they didn't add new trophies for WotW and instead we got some challenge conditions for boss fights. And they made unlocking things on WotD easier too.
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>>183804493
there's different set bonuses for different deities
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>>183804493

>>183804134
Yea
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So has anyone fought Kojiro yet? Is he a generic NPC or did they put effort into him?
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how do i unlock way of the wise
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>>183805205
He's in a side mission. You can't transform into him unfortunately.
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>>183805420
complete way of the demon i think
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>odachi for crowd control
>tonfa for single target dps and status procs
Who else is getting comfy with new weapon?
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they're never going to finish Goemon are they
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How the fuck do I finish this fox spirit mission? I've placed orbs into every pedestal but the door at the end still says its locked.
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how did I do, photo of a monitor aside
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>>183805627
I am so fucking retarded nevermind
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>>183801881
God fucking damnit just imagining how good axe I can get is making me excited. Back to grinding.
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still way too many flaws to come back desu
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Anyone know how WotW fucks you over increases difficulty? Now the WotD restrictions are down I can (try to) kill TriKelley to get to it, just wondering what will be new.

>>183803901
Mothfu is teased but you can't get her
>mfw

>>183804132
2 transformations, but 3 poses as well. Expect 2 females and some little bitch dude next DLC from the story.

>>183806006
We know

>>183807050
Lies

>>183805563
Fits in better with the spear.
>Spear for CC
>Tonfa for Single
>Both scale Body
I wonder what the next weapon is anyhow, especially if it scales off Stamina.
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>>183807456
I'll give you one more chance at posting anon
Just one more
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>>183807456
Fucking spoilers.
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>tfw Nioh isn't cancerous enough for /vg/ anymore
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>>183807456
>Mothfu is teased but you can't get her
>>mfw

old man spirit was teased last time as well and we're getting him now so maybe in the final dlc?
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>Tonfa + Onmyo build
Y/N
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>>183805963
all divine shit is useless now that there's ethereal gear
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Hey guys just finished DLC, wondering which of the Tonfa mystic arts are better. Apocalypse (Atk up on consecutive) seems nice especiallyy with the Demon dance combos, but Kannagi (Cancel with Demon Dance) could either be infinitely better or brokenly worse depending on its interaction/fluidity. And no, I don't have 14 Skill points to waste to find out

>>183808157
Why is she on the trailer image, but not Oldman Sachs? Turns out he's an Octopus . Pretty bummed out she isn't in, yet again and now she is a Wind spirit instead of a Ligtning spirit for some reason.
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>>183808719
not true, all ethereal gear is grouped into a few different set bonuses and not the normal ones. They aren't a straight replacement.
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>>183808273
Yin Yang Tonfa have innate Onmyo A scaling, so yeah its as viable as 2Kat Onmyo builds
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>>183809091
Do you know where I can get those? I fell in love with the tonfas the moment I saw the grapple animation and now I really fucking want to do a hybrid build with them.
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Is silabar ingot busted? I can't shove my amrita in and i could before the DLC, there's just no fucking option inside the menu now
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>be me
>New armour sets
>Ooo_a_Dragon_looking_one.jpeg
>Heavy
>5 pieces bonus
>+1500 Life
Dear god the armourfags really are gonna be unkillable now.

The Sarutobi set also has a cool effect, they can't be parried when using Tonfa at 4 pieces.

And has anyone figured out how to do the secret attack on the Sarutobe Tonfa?
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this is actually a really good dlc
why is there barely any buzz for it at all?
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>Start a new tonfa only character
>Break Onryoki's ki 4 times throughout the fight
Is this the new fuck your ki weapon?
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is this dlc as short as the last?

also, can anyone tell me the tonfa base scaling? really hoping it has C+ or better in stamina
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>>183810113
>Stamina
>When the entire weapon is based around wearing the lightest armor possible
nope
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>>183810113
I am tempted to say the main story seems even shorter but there are more sidemissions.

Tonfa scales mostly with Skill, then Body and Dexterity.
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>>183810271
>even shorter
wew
so much for Nioh > DS3 then
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>>183810437
nioh is already better than ds3 without any dlc
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>>183810437
Well to be fair it's still longer than Ashes of Ariandel.
And unlike DaS3 Nioh still has one DLC to be released.
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>>183810259
disappointing

if only it was based around highest agility instead of lightest armor
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>>183809347
They come as random drops, but right now you're looking at a guaranteed reward for the 'Dance of the Yokai' mission. Seems viable, especially if you use the DDance combo to proc a status. From experience, all three stances can proc superfast, so try to stick to High or Mid stance to get some damage in there. I only say Mid at all because High stance can be a bit finiky at times with a locked-in one direction strong attack. Unless there is something I am missing, stay off low stance.

>>183809820
Because it's had relatively little adspace. Doesn't matter, DL3 is gearing up to be a bigger one whilst simultaneously bringing in the GotY edition fags

>>183810024
Yes, but you get locked in place when DDancing, which means most enemies can deal substantial damage to you without you being able to do anything in return.

>>183810113
Bit shorter still-not sure how WotW is yet however, but it doesn't sound like a flat NG+++ on the surface. Tonfa is Body scaling, so the Stamina weapon will be in DL3.
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what's the best way to farm divine fragments if you're stuck in offline node?
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>>183810725
>Unless there is something I am missing

Low Stance is by far the most reliable way to dispose of those fox Yokai but other then that yeah it's useless.
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Man you get some 10/10 leg action with Okatsu and tonfas
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>>183811584
>that grapple animation

wew
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ok so what stuff is shared among all save files again
I'm considering starting a new character
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>>183811831
just glory and pvp stats i think

I also started a new file just yesterday and it's a very different experience from a level 300 with all kodamas, locks and prestige.

If you don't think you'll get bored starting from 0, I'd recommend it. You forget what it's like starting out.
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>>183812263
>When Zombies and Skeletons are a threat again and Onryoki is boss tier
>Hino-Enma is still as hard as before
Wow, that gets the ol' noggin joggin
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How's the new difficulty? Does everything have retarded amounts of HP?
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>>183811179
do missions on wod and check the special finds you ca but from 10 to 40 or more
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>>183813685
*you can buy*
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live dammit
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Nioh still proving how little people care about it I see. And there's the usual people that get mad when you say Dark Souls III was better (and it is, MUCH better) too.
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>>183815306
(You)
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is there another save corruption bug with the new dlc? kinda worried about starting it considering what happened the first time around, though I made a backup
has anyone done a full onmyo mage build? those new shots look breddy gud, though I'm not to keen on respeccing just yet
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Honestly I've no idea how to proceed. I have finished Way of the strong and I've been grinding for armor so I could deal with Demon, but everything kills me way too easily. I have 4k health and 3k defense.
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>>183815306
>>>/r/darksouls
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>>183816326
Can't say much about save corruption, seems fine, worked OK with me.

New Onmyo shit
-All shots get a second spell on the tree
>Fire shot V2=Explosive Fire shot
>Water shot V2=Linear line of lingering damage pools. Good for area denial.
>Lightning shot V2=Linear tracking line of strong damage thunder strikes, like a Nue attack. Only problem is that it will have a moderate delay before it will hit the enemy due to the thinderbolts ovcuring one at a time in a line from you to them.
>Wind Shot V2=5 higher damage wind shots form a perpendicular line and fire simoultaneously. Basically a straight upgrade and is less easy to dodge.
>Earth shot V2=Large moderate damage pulse around the player which lingers for half a second. Probs the best of the 5.

And 4 new talisman
>Hermit=Huge Def down for infinite poise. Basically makes heavy armour builds unstunnable, with a moderate amount of armour left.
>Leech=Drains health for a huge Atk up. Very good magic, can be completely mitigated by Regen talisman or Tanuki guardian.
>[Ki one]=Nearly prevents all Ki regen for about 40 seconds, then gives giga Ki regen for about 40 seconds. Does what it says on the can, good against bosses/things you can prepare for. Very good once it gets going.
>[The other Ki one]=Heavy Atk down for Huge Ki damage increase. Seems to be more co-op as the constant breaks are nice, however the Atk down prevents a single player from capitalising on it. Kara-Jishi, Powerpill and Carnage talisman seem to just mitigate the Atk down-bit at that point why use the talisman in the first place. Definitely more OP in Co-op.

Perhaps we will see a Onmyo counterpart of the Kunaispammers sometime soon.
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>>183817731
yo, I got another question, how easy is it to clear through the NG+ difficulties now? it said they relaxed the requirements
I kinda wanna bumrush ng+ and ng++ so I can start getting the orange loot
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is there still no onmyo set?
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Is Maria available as a transform yet or is it still only asian people?
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>>183817731
>Can be completely mitigated by regeb talisman

Yeah no, i tried that and the life drain is bigger than the regeneration
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How do I unlock the newest difficulty? Do I really have to beat every single mission on demon to do it?
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>>183817961
>>183816875
Use Suppa/Catwalking/TigerRun to skip most enemies, do all the bosses you can, then Co-Op one of the Omi region missions to get the highest end loot for that difficulty. If a boss is OKHO'ing you, a there is no shame in popping a Quick-Change scroll for that singular encounter.
Easily the hardest challenge in both NG+/++ is soloing TriKelley on the The Queens Eyes mission. Bash your head against a wall for 4hrs, beat them then use the loot from the next difficulty to clear up the harder missions on the previous difficulty. Bishbashbosh.

>>183815306
Pic related.
Popularity does not necesarrily mean fidelity. The Minions move commecially did much better than the Shawn the Sheep movie, however one is appealing to an audinece of easily appeasable, braindead buffoons; the other had a stop-motion sheep in it.
Also, you forgot your tripcode Lucy
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>>183819127
>co-op
I've never gotten PS+ nor am I ever planning on it
so it's just the main missions that I gotta beat, then?
fug :-DDDDD
some of those later missions were really fuckin annoying, like sen's funhouse 2.0
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>>183819127
>Suppa/Catwalking/TigerRun to skip most enemies
Thanks. Never even crossed my mind.
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>>183819127
you don't need catwalking scrolls

enemies don't hear you even if you're sprinting 2 feet away from them
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Remember to use rat spirit for the ridiculous A+ stealth.
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>was having a blast playing Nioh
>had to stop because of work, family visiting, CEUs
>this was about four months ago
>don't have the motivation to even start it up any more

I know it's fun, and I know I'd have a blast again if I'd just get into it, but starting it up again feels like a drag for some reason.
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>>183818534
Only chinks. New transforms are the Red dude on the cover and a new ninja. Looks like Maria and another chink will be transforms in DL3 anyhow.

>>183818564
I meant Regen and Tanuki, not Regen or Tanuki. I would imagine, though impractical Oasis would also be enough to combo with Regen to overcome it. Either way, Regen mitigates a good portion of it.

>>183818989
Only Queens Eyes. Just rush the minimum requirements.

>>183819401
Nah, side missions are just as valuble to push the little blue bar along. Some of them can be basically skipped by Suppa/Catwalk/TigerRun. On top of that, certain bosses are much easier compared to the lategame, namely Onryoki, Centipede1, Okatsu, Hino (if you know what you are doing) and Spiderchick. Sens' croakery set is quite cheesable and Froggo ain't as bad as some of the others, such as Umibozu, Ogress or Nue.

>>183819517
Don't abuse it. It may engender passivity. Also enemies will still be able to detect you if you 'touch them', making enemies that block gates a pain in the arse as they are near guaranteed a hit on you if you ain't careful. Instead use the magic conch to lure them away, then sprint past them and pray to god the next area ain't full of enemies waiting for you

>>183820443
Perhaps leave it til DL3? I mean, you'll get to play the whole Osaka campaign without any burnout. No harm in leaving a game for a bit of cooldown.
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man WoeW is such bullshit holy fuck is the balancing off.
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>>183818989
Just one mission for every region and the queen eyes one
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>>183820819
Fucking copy and paste and crash and shutdown and grrrr
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>>183820819
>>183820897
>Only Queens Eyes
Thank god. I already have that available.
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>>183820857
What does it do?
I know WotSt increases all enemy stats, WotD does that and gives certain enemies buffs, but what does WotW do now?
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>>183820819
I mean, pretty much the whole game would be fresh. I didn't beat it, when I stopped, I had just moved to the second land mass. I assume that's still really early game.
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>>183821006
>He thinks it's gonna be that simple
Ahhh, thoust sweet summer child. Wait 'til TriKelley gangbangs you to prep you for a beefed up tenacle porn episode. 4 hours wasn't a joke. Providing you ain't running a scummy build
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>>183821131
even more buffs for enemies more red mobs and many dlc enemies instead the normal mobs oh and dont forget everything 1 shots you
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>Pick up Axe of Amaterasu.
>Gives more damage for less armour.
>Been running around in nothing but pants and shoes since the end of he game anyway.
My time has come.
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>>183821748
3 kellys is easy as fuck , just shoot the kelly on the right and he will come alone and the rest will be stuck on the wall gitgud
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>>183821831
>1 shots
Mechanically or because you aren't armourscumming?
Either way it's better than just Dark Souls 'le stats increase' NG+, so ther's that.

>>183821209
I feel you, you need to be in a certain state of mind to enjoy Nioh without being disheartened.
Either way at region 2, you have 4 other regions, 2 DLC regions and 1 yet to come in DL3. I would say leave it as is until DL3 comes around, but if not at least stop before the DLC. It is a notable step harder and expects you to have NG+/++ weapons to progress with ease.

And just a hunch, if you are struggling with Umi-Bozu, light all the fires outside the boss (One is behind a fake wall in the centre room), get the middle shrine as your respawn and use fire damage on Umi-without putting out the big torches. He is probably one of the hardest bosses in the game, so don't sweat it if you take a while.
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>>183822357
>+Revenant transform

>>183822364
>gitgud
I did though. It only took 4 hours and I didn't have to resort to AI scumming. Perhaps you could get on my level and do it properly. See, now I can make it sound like I did an honourable 3v1 instead of screaming aloud why god has forsaken me-unaware of the AIscum at the time
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I think we can all agree the best thing about the DLC is that you can choose to make the Shoulderbelt invisible in the game settings.
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so the nioh set the normal not the golden one can be dropped from mobs or revenants? i got some parts but i dont know how
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>>183824250
If you're talking about the Blue Nioh set, you can get it by fighting any Revenant with the gear on.
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>>183821748
But that room provides many refills for living weapon.
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Are the gunsticks the best tonfa? Is the explosion attack good when upgraded?
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>>183825652
what is gunstick
also the tonfas kind of suck, why didn't they put fucking nunchakus in the game
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>>183826060
The tonfas are fucking great.
>huge damage output
>breaks ki better than axe
>fast attacks and several that follow the target mid dodge lmao dodge this
>are some of the most badass weapons you can use
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>>183826163
Odachi is just too much fun for me.
Sakura Strike bodies pretty much everything Oni.
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>>183826336
Huh, the odachi was actually a huge disappointment to me. Lots of stupid stance switch bullshit with little payoff imo.
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>>183826163
>breaks ki better than axe
Seriously wasn't expecting that some random tonfas that I picked up break ki faster than my main weapon axe.
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>>183826598
I'm thinking of building around tonfas, haven't used any scroll of rebirth since before the first dlc. They seem to be really useful at both guarding and breaking guard; there's a bunch of passives from other weapons that improve your own guard iirc yeah?
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>Very fast tonfa spinning at incredible hihg speed
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Can you make NG enjoyable again, like acutally replaying the whole game, without making a new save slot?
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>>183826060
>Wants meme weapon because he saw a Teenager Mutant Ninja Turtle use it
>Conpletely ingornes the existance of the Naginata
Shit taste desu
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>cant daiba washi humans anymore in wotw

i mean you can but its just not worth it
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>>183826416
The stance switch is the best part, it's a make your own combo stick and it feels wonderful to use.
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>>183826781
Dualswords have passive for that.
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>>183827410
>he wants a spear rehash

nah m8, its a fucking video game - I want a fun weapon to use.
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>>183826815
>Can go full punch monk.
Fuck that's so dirty.
Okatsu will soon get the Willy.
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whats the best way to level up post game? I'm at 125 and Defiant Honor starts at like 170 and I dont feel like playing the entire fucking game over again just to do some dlc that will take a few hours...
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whats the new max lvl for weapons/armors?
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>>183828869
I did Defiant Honor at 130 with 150+6 divines
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>>183828869
NG+ and level up Saoirse.
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>>183828869
nigga just do it , recommended lvl is just a meme
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>>183828869
Doing the higher difficulties gives higher rewards.
Saorise is the biggest boost and you can farm every mission over, the Nobunaga boss gives you way more than you could possibly need.
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Is the Ethereal quality only on weapons, or armor as well?
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>>183827693
>Spear=Small knife at the end of a pole, kept as light as possible as not to prevent movement
>Naginata=A plate of deliberatly weighted metal on a reinforced pole, used to increase centrifugal force with swings and to double up as a club. Has multiple martial arts dedicated to it
>Nunchucks=Weapons with less range than Tonfa, extremely hard to use and even then ineffective. Used primarily to beat wheat husks to make flour.

You already have the Kurisagama and the Tonfa scale with Dex, there doesn't need to be another Ninja weapon

>>183828869
Marobashi with Water Dragon, Saorsia for quick levels, Demon King revealed with Water Dragon, Saorsia, and Amrita Sake for lots of levels for some more time investment.
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>>183829187
>150+6 divines
what does this mean
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>>183829830
ethereal are the new bonus that come in orange letters?.
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>>183829892
Item level 150 (standard divine drops in NG and NG+), upgraded to +6

>>183829940
Yeah
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>>183829864


ha ha my dude, why are you bringing reality into the equation, its a video game. are you really one of those autists who does like fencing and swording fighting and shit irl, but is still like fat as shit?
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>>183830003
then yes it comes in armors too i got this from bat tits
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where to find a third cannonball in the first main mission
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>>183830257
Sweet. No reason to worry about upgrading any gear at all until NG++ (is it?) when they start dropping then.
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>>183821748
What the hell? Did they get nerfed or something. I just beat three kellys on my first try on WotD. They felt really slow compared to earlier.
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>>183830003
not to sound like a pleb but how do you upgrade a weapon's level other than soul matching?

Even then I thought the general consensus was that soul matching was a waste of time?
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Sup bros; returning to Nioh after a hiatus. Doing a tonfa run, started tonfa, dual sword and daiba waishi for that sweet +3 skill. Is it worth hitting 15 ki/10 in the other stats for the softcap?
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Are there no inherent lightning tonfas? I like to use Karajishi as my main.
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Could someone post the stats of Kojiro's odachi, and are there any other new ones in this DLC?
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>>183830560
Soul Matching is the only way I've heard of. It's either grind until a maxed out weapon drops, or soul match into one.
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>>183830697
Kojiro's odachi - Monohoshizao (Washing Pole). The only fixed stat is a max CCD.
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>>183830885

Damn, if that thing has a decent attack rating then it'll easily be the best odachi since all of the other ones have at least one wasted slot.
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>>183831880
At the very least it's the best looking one by far.
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>>183830128
>Yeah, haha my dude, why not give him laser pistols and a magic spell that gets me a qt gf
Fuck off 'my dude', nunchuks have and always will be a shit weapon for edgelord brainlets who watched too many Saturday morning cartoons. I was making a reasonable guess about what could be an actual Stamina based weapon, but fuck all that because 'its just a game lol XD'
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>>183831880
I don't have the ethereal version yet, but the attack multiplier for the divine one is 1567

>>183832112
>mfw it literally has a swallow on the guard
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>>183830621
Fire and Earth as far as I am aware. Probably one more I haven't found yet.
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>that satisfying high stance strong tonfa combo
>launches you a good distance forward allowing to quickly get in and deal a fuckload of stamina damage
Are there any good medium sets that include tonfa?
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I just died to fucking Derrick. Welcome to the Way of the Wise I guess.
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Where the fuck do i get more culverin ammo? More enemy farming?
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Should I just disassemble all these divines i'm picking up in WotW? They should be useless now except for inheritables.
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>>183833415
Yes.
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What's a good pair for tonfa? Odachi?
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>>183833879
axe
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>>183833986
But tonfa already occupies a slot of a heavy ki damage dealer.
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Any of the new armor sets any good?
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>>183834073
Axe is for dealing damage, not ki
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>>183834134
My preference is axe for yokai, sword for humans (backwave is broken). I'm not any good with the tonfas.
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So I guess unless I switch to heavy armor I have to deal with getting 1-shot by every boss I encounter from now on past WoTD?
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>>183834513
So get good with tonfas, they have a knockoff backwave
>>183835326
You're supposed to run heavy anyway for maximum damage bonus
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>>183835887
I suppose I should just abandon using 2kat aswell then. Its always been severely underpowered anyway, I don't see it getting any better any time soon either.
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>>183835887
I like doing burst damage instead of dps, also, tonfa backwave is not nearly as good as the sword since you don't get the final plow damage.
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>>183836090
>severely underpowered anyway
Is this bait? 2kat destroys stuff
>>183836351
You get a combo instead
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If anyone still gives a fuck - the third cannonball is on a corpse behind the cover in top right corner of the third bullshit arrow area. I recommend going 1 - 3 - 2 so you won't want to kill yourself later. Please put that shit in the OP so people won't have to waste time doing retarded crap
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Honestly, no weapon in this game is weak. All you need is the right gear and reforging, and then literally any weapon is overpowered enough to boss rush in seconds.
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>>183836692
What about the cannonballs actually? I literally just ran through the area, killing a few king big sad guys on the way, and looting every corpse in sight. I still don't know what the cannonballs were for, beat the DLC hours ago.
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>>183836482
Its not bait. 2Kat is the most fun but its by far the worst DPS. Every single update and DLC I make the best 2kat possible for DPS and its never as good as any other weapon (Even Odachi back when it was new blew it out of the water).

I'm just hoping in this update a 2kat might FINALLY be able to break 2.5k attack.
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>>183836979
>Can't learn Date Masamune's stabby stab move
2kat is suffering
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Do I see ninja dogs?
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>>183837361
>quickswitch to quick stance
>dodge sideways or 'through' him
>quickswitch back to main stance
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>>183836968
Deleting the wall part which shoots arrows
Also trophy for shooting all three
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>>183837707
>trophy
Aaaaaand going right back in there
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>>183836979
>its by far the worst DPS
Yeah that's why half the youtube is 2kat SOTC abuse sets and if you want fun you go discord water sword
>>183837581
Yes, fuck them
>>183837774
Farm sarutobi while you're at it, he has defeat him with tonfas only trophy if you missed it and his tonfas are actually guns and are supposed to shoot on combo endings
>tfw smithing text from the second attempt
Fuck this cunt and his teleport behind you crap
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>>183837621
No I meant like use his stabby stab with your own 2kat.
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>dlc is shorter than ashes of ariandel
>noone's complaining
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The wiki has nothing to say about it so I'll ask here.

How is PvP in this game now? I only remember that at the time PvP came out, it was a broken fucking joke.
How does the matchmaking work now, do players go in with predetermined stats/gear altogether, or is everyone still running around one hit killing each other?
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>>183838795
I've already spent 40 minutes on the second main mission. That's longer than Ariandel.
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>>183839183
lolno, AoA was about two hours long though, this one took me about one hour and I was still confused when I couldn't find any more main missions to do
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So Ethereals can have some weird set bonuses.
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>>183840094
Ethereals is literally the same shit but with unique bonuses and some previous bonuses carrying along (like now ethereal accessories can get yasakani effect)
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Is offensive Onmyo good yet?
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>>183840842
Okay. I got a basic tanegashima with a set bonus called grace of shunatsuhiko or something.
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Where the fuck is the last healing kodama on fox mountain? Peacock isn't displaying anything.
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I guess there's no way to craft ethereals for now and you have to grind forever for stuff you want?
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Kelly Hallway is still making me butthurt on Strong
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>tfw still have a low level 21 or something Fan with +50 luck, 5% item drop, 5% human item drop and something more on it
I just can't find anything to replace it with. It's literally my lucky charm.
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>>183841283
Do they start dropping more often on later regions?
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>>183841323
I just beat strong, kelly hallway was piss easy with kunai spamming, but hundred eyes took me a few tries to kill
now I need shit so I don't get raped on WoTD, I don't think I'm doing enough damage anymore
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>>183841820
What level were you when you attempted it? Also what armor? I Have Kingo + other set.
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>>183842643
level 151, using full head of the iga ninja set
I was basically a glass cannon that was kinda ok at dealing damage
I hadn't played until recently, so its all I had for bum-rushing WoTS
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>>183842856
How much were your Kunai hitting for if you remember?
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>>183842964
uhh.. I think was like 1.5k-2k from the front, and 4k or so on the back, but then I used a weakness talisman and did a lot more damage, those numbers I couldnt really remember, I was just tunnel visioning on not getting 1 shotted and mashing kunai
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What's the new upgrade cap on divines and ethereals? 25 or 30?
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>>183841819
im pretty sure marobashi will be the best place to fatm these
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>MFW some of these set bonuses
+1.4k life
Increased I-frames when dodging
20% pierce guard

My body is ready
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>>183841323
hardest fight in the game if you try to fight all 3 at once. hide right near the entrance and draw them in one at a time
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>>183846220
I tried that, two of them run at me even when I run in, punch the first one who drops and run off
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has anyone done marobashi on wise using full extraction/pelaides/sake yet? how much amrita does it get? someone got to level 463 and apparently each level was costing them a billion amrita.
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>>183846305
don't run in, hide as far back and behind the yokais tank as you can. they'll all jump out of their tanks and sort of lurk around in the far room, usually one will run in at a time or you can shoot one with an arrow. just don't venture too close stay far back.
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>>183846525
But I still need to trigger the room right? Like get the door locked behind me
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>>183846619
the door closes when you walk passed the middle of the second yokais tank. so you can whack the first tank, kill that, whack the second tank, kill that, walk a bit further and as soon as you hear the first clone drop out run back to the gate and hide behind the first tank. they can still shoot you from here so watch out for that. then just wait a bit. sometimes one will run at you, sometimes you have to edge forward really slow and shoot one to pull it in. try not to get any further forward than the first tank and the other 2 should not aggro.
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>>183846619

Attacking the tanks will wake up the yokai. Don't trigger the room, break the first two tubes one at a time and then move past the "trigger". You've got time between each Kelley becoming active so make sure you wail on the first one during his startup animation and hopefully get him dead before the other two activate.
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>>183846982
>>183846908
What Spirit you suggest i use?
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Wait does Sanada get new music for his fight or am I just not remembering what song is playing
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>tfw reflecting only does a small amount of damage, is very unforgiving with the timing and still drains ki totally if it's a cannonball

dissapointing desu
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>>183847127
When I first did it they could easily one shot me, so I didn't give them a chance and spammed axe to guardbreak and then killing blow them. you could give that a shot with a spirit that boosts that. but really if it's 1v1 it's up to you, they aren't that tough alone. it's the fucking grab attack when they are surrounding you that is a pain in the ass.
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>>183790552
What's a good weapon to pair with the Odachi? I love the spear too but it feels redundant to have two long weapons that excel at grappling and ki damage
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Can we stop having these boss fights where it's three bosses or more and just a bunch of ranged assholes? So sick of fighting this axe faggot, kill the bow minions, fight, gun minions show up, kill gun minions, fight, cannon users show up. Then two more fucking bosses.
It wouldn't be so bad if literally every human boss enemy had enough stamina to propel a rocket into space and still run a triathlon three times, with just enough stamina to block your entire ki bars worth of ki.
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>pop carnage
>get hit by literally any attack
>die
>don't pop carnage
>get hit by literally any attack
>die
is WotW dare I say, the dark souls of JRPGs?
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>>183848394
invest in ki damage bonuses, use weapons and weapon skills that damage ki. if not stop trying to win by draining their ki and use a different method.
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>+18 armour
>doing dlc on way of strong
>namahage using their annoying mix of delayed attacks and near instant attacks
>nearly one shots me with a single hit

I hate these enemies, they are going to be some serious cancer on demon/wise.
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>>183849247
Time to go heavy.
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>>183849631
im in full +20 medium and even with the protection talisman that negates a set amount of damage im still getting obliterated by any attack that manages to hit me
I can't wait for way of the kami desu
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I haven't played since shortly after release.

In general, how has the balance of the game shifted? I remember spamming trispark with axe to destroy all human mobs. I also remember desperately trying to make heavy armor work, but I can't remember if it did or not. How are the two new weapons? Exploding tonfas look like fun.
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>had 60mil G when I started today
>since then i've only soulmatched 2 pieces of gear
>just checked my current gold count
>11mil G
do you lose gold on death now or were those 2 pieces of gear just that expensive?
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HAHAH GET FUCKED HUNDRED EYES

EAT KUNKAI'S

So can I actually get semi-decent gear in Way of the Demon? I'm only 125
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>>183850345
think SM 200 to 220-ish is some 50million...

DON'T upgrade. Wait for star effect soul match reduction to drop on one of those higher lvl ones.
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>>183851632
The most you can get is +16.
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>Janome-cho only teasing AGAIN
Literally why. Why even out her on the literal DLC poster if it is the next DLC(hopefully) she will actually become available in.
>>183808884
I don't think she ever was a Lightning spirit. It is also kind of interesting that Otani is the only character that doesn't use the same element as his GS, him using Water while Janome-cho being confirmed Wind.
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>>183850345
soul matching levels is usually insanely expensive, but raising the + value less so. I always make sure the material i use to bring something up the regular level has soul matching cost reduction. still to bring a +0 piece up to +20 is several million I think,
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The last Sanada brave guy before the Yukimura boss battle drops a smithing text for an Odachi with a pretty good set effect (General of Kigetsu). Has anyone gotten the smithing text for that set's armor, before I waste my time farming this long ass level on this one dude that doesn't respawn?
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So, anyone dropping ethereal revenants on first mission in way of the demon yet?
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>Tonfas
Am I missing something or are these super underwhelming? The damage is really low and the amount of ki you lose when guarding is fucking insane.
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>>183852003
I mean how do I get that? Most of my stuff isnt even +1
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>>183852420
>guarding
you're supposed to dodge while using them my man
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>>183852501
Clearly but if you're saying that you're missing a very basic part of how this game works. If you get hit you can't roll out of the combo.You either eat the entire thing or you guard to stop it, which when using tonfas, will just fuck you the same or even harder.
That's not even bringing in bosses where guarding is literally required outside of taking the hits like demon centipede.
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>>183852445
Soul matching.
You soul match a +0 divine with a +1 to make it into a +1, then you soul match it with another +1 to get a +2 and so on.
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>>183852938
it's the tradeoff for tonfas having such high mobility
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>>183853075
>The tradeoff for tonfas having such high mobility is getting killed if they mess up their i-frames 1 time
Don't try to defend this anon
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>>183853131
sounds pretty balanced to me desu
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>>183853131
Get used to dying in one hit. I'm a 2kat slogging through new DLC in WoTD and literally anything that touches me takes all 3.3k of my health.
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>>183853197
>Shit attack in exchange for insta-death if you're not flawlessly i-framed.
>balanced
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>finish NG+
>go to NG to start the DLC
>fight Masamune
>he's still a cunt even though I'm on 150+10 gear
God damn he's such a fucking cunt. Everything he does is safe and he never staggers when you hit him
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>Tonfas drain ki faster than any other weapon.
You're right, when using them they eat up my ki bar faster than any other weapon in the game, usually in 1.5 combos if I'm generous, leaving me fucking stranded and awaiting death.
On top of that even if they do have more Ki damage than say axe or odachi they have nowhere near enough damage to capitalize on it when everything they do is equivalent to a feather rubbing against a rhino.
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>>183853836
Oh boy, you're gonna love the end of this DLC
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>>183853836
>Finish NG+
>Go to NG
>Spanish chick one-shots me before the game gives me control
>Try a bunch of time for the same thing to keep happening.

Did they fix that bug? The one where she grapples you before you're given control of your character? I'm not coming back until that shit is fixed.
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>>183853836
Date? I killed him at level 110 with +1 on most stuff, the rest was +0. The easiest trick I found was dodging backwards then attacking with the kusarigana in low stance, since he has no poise. When he summons the spirits I threw some kunais and bombs, then dodged until his living weapon run out.
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>>183853389
>shit attack
>implying damage is lacking
>implying you don't attack 50 times in 1 seconds
>implying you don't fly around the map like it's ninja gaiden
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>>183854174
Was that recent? I must have fought her a couple dozen times last week and never encountered that bug
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>>183854174
I had no problems with Maria. Her attacks eat so much ki that she was always vulnerable to grapples

>>183854040
Can't wait to get mad at videogames
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>>183854341
When the DLC just launched.
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>get hit by bozu laser
>31k damage
epic nice
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>>183854278

Not him but

>implying damage is lacking
implying it's not

>implying you don't attack 50 times in 1 seconds
You have 2 attacks that do that and they leave you ridiculously vulnerable to the point where it's not even worth using them

>implying you don't fly around the map like it's ninja gaiden
I don't know what weapon you're using but it's sure not Tonfas
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>>183854409
You're just bad.
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Any list of sets yet?
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>>183854409
Ahh, I only started the DLC a couple of weeks ago, so it's definitely fixed.
What was bullshit is that if you happened to dodge towards her general direction while she was idle on the second phase, she sometimes did her grab, after you imputed the dodge, so I eated it without being able to evade it. Even if I survived it, I got tired of her bullshit and summoned someone to help me kill the bitch
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>>183854993
>Yuo're just bad
>Cutscene literally broke at launch letting the boss start attacking before you're allowed control.

You know, I legit feel bad for people like you who think you're being clever but exhibit complete lack of slightest reading comprehension.
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>>183854459
>surprised of getting one-shot by a boss super attack
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>>183856549
But in Dark Souls bosses don't one shot you because it's FAIR but difficult. Nioh just fucking tries too hard lmao
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I swear they're deliberately holding back Moth because they hate waifus which is why the female skins cost so fucking much compared to the rest.
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>Katanas and 2kats get beautiful intricate designs on their sheathes and some blades
>Spears all look generic and samey
>Same for axes
Wow, I definitely don't think there were biases during development or anything.
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>>183858751
I don't know if you can get the one I'm thinking of but one of the minibosses in the new DLC has a fucking fantastic looking axe.
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>>183857973
it's just ONE attack that one-shot you, an attack that is telegraphed as fuck
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>>183857973
I think you need to play the souls series again because literally every single one of them has at least one gimmick boss that can one hit you.

That's not even counting when a boss does their super telegraphed move like Umi Bozu's laser that will pretty much guaranteed one hit you.
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Is there a new spot to get revenant items that people purposefully drop, like Isle of Demons used to be?
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>>183861403
ay yo hol up so this new rarity is just divine, except you can get special set bonuses?
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>no trophy for finishing the game on WotW

How much do you want to bet there will be a trophy in DLC3 for finishing the game on a even greater difficulty than wise, but to get it you have to clear the game on wise anyway.
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desu (to be honest) honestly I take back what I said about deflect being a gimmicky effect for accessories. It's actually pretty handy for killing cannon fags and you no longer need a good ranged weapon to quickly kill bow/rifle assholes. You can usually one or two shot reflect kill them, even red phantom cannon yokai only take 3-4 reflects to die.
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>>183863793
I got lucky and got a yato mirror with no guard break from ranged attacks. Rip canon cunts
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I've finally switched from Kara-jishi to Nurarihyon since my primary weapon is a 1kat with multiple water effects. The blind it provides seems less blatant than the ninjutsu item blind but Sasuke missing his tackle completely felt nice.
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Do the weapons effects that boost elemental damage by a % just increase the damage dealt, or do they also boost how quickly you you inflict elemental ailments? Also allies don't seem to get a health buff in wise. Ginchiyo was getting wiped out in only a few hits during her mission. Her damage output was still pretty high though.
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>>183861403

If you actually pay attention to your elemental resistance / yokai damage received stats then no, it won't one hit you. Granted I haven't gotten to the top difficulties yet, % reduction is a pretty big deal.
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Am I missing something or are there no new transformations. I've finished all the DLC missions other than the tonfa shit in the dojo.
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>>183807456
>>183808157
>>183808884
SO THE FUCKING BULLSHIT OP IMAGE EXISTS BUT YOU CAN'T GET MOTHFU IN THIS DLC EITHER?!!

I WAITED ALL THIS TIME FOR FUCKING NOTHING, GUESS I'LL PICK NIOH BACK UP IN FUCKING DECEMBER OR WHENEVER THE LAST ONE COMES OUT JESUS CHRIST FUCK
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>clear one mission on way of the wise with crappy 15 +5 tonfas
>0-999999 proficiency before even reaching the boss
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I wonder why nioh is nowhere near as popular as I think it should be, especially with the souls games dick riding.
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>>183867529
Because no one likes loot pinata shit and the shameless rehashing with difficulty modes when there's not much variety to begin with.
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>>183867798
wow I asked for a reason not a rudeson
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>side mission in the temple complex is pretty fun and offers a unique gimmick that makes things feel fresh without being annoying
>ends not with a Nine-Tailed Fox boss, but just an enemy rush in an arena

Pretty disappointing desu, kinda like the rest of the DLC. It's neat, but I liked it a lot less than Masamune's chapter. They even dangled a fight with Maria in front of our faces and cucked us out of it at the last minute.

At least the Awe Simwae guy's helmet got in the game somehow
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So what the fuck was with those fox orbs?
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>every single enemy on WotW oneshots me through +20 medium armor
getting real tired of this prepare to die meme desu
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>want to speed through WoTD
>reluctant to farm gear because I'll instantly replace it with WotW gear
>can't progress because I instantly die to everything
f-fug
how the h*ck do I farm amrita and gear so I don't get raped at any one moment?
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>>183869214
summon people to carry you then do whatever you can to cheese hundred eyes and his badn of kelleys
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>>183869528
>no PS+
fug :-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>183869528

>summon people

Anyone got player numbers? I imagine that not a lot of people play this anymore, barring DLC releases. I guess now is as good a time as any.
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>>183869027
eh, not everything is a oneshot. I've even survived grab attacks from yokai. I actually like it, some enemies have new moves. on eyed oni now sit on you if you linger behind them too long, big skellingtons do the axe spin. If you play cautiously. I'm not the biggest fan of another grind through the whole game, but with completed builds the game was too easy on wotd, they need something to bring the challenge back. i was against a new difficulty but not I'm playing it I hope they add another one again in DLC3. this newest dlc on way of the wise is going to be bone dry anal pounding though i can tell.
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>>183865217
They only increase the damage dealt. If you want to apply the effects quicker then forge "Status Ailment Augmentation (name of element)."
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>>183869891

>WOTD
>too easy

Goddamn post your build like what the fuck.
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>>183869695
dlc will definitely bring people back, but I was playing a ton a few weeks ago, both summoning and being summoned on WotD and always quickly found people. The trophy for completing all mission on demon is telling though. You can usually get a summon for most demon missions. but there are a few ones where I tried waiting for 20-30 minutes at a time, several times and never got anybody. The conspirators is one of them. Sometimes i will specifically go to that mission as a visitor and get summoned straight away, I don't think many people have done that and people always need help with those fucking triple ninjas and the dual ninja yokai that come after. There were a few other missions I was never able to summon help for too.
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Do you get the moth in this dlc? So far I have the Horse and was disappointed I didn't get her too.
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>>183870369
horse and the brain, mothwaifu hopefully next dlc
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>>183870398
>the brain
?
And wow. I fucking hope so.
Thanks.
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>>183870027
Usually for builds you build around a weapon and then usually around weapon skills. By endgame if you are doing things right you will have an absurd amount of damage. You can even make tank builds that can take huge amounts of damage too. Consider how many different stats there are for you to increase.

- fully levelled and + weapon, forged with 7 effect slots. all effects rolled to what you want
- all armour pieces the same, 2 good accesories with effects that fit your build
- weapon and armour set bonuses optimal for your build
- your regular player levels, by end to mid of wotd you will easily be level 25-300 enough for several 99's where it counts
- all your samurai, ninja and omnyo skill points in the right places
- all your agyo and ugyo prestige points allocated to the right stats
- both guardian spirits at max level and optimal for you build
- joining the right clan and getting the best benefits for your build
- prior to fights you stack whatever buffs and debuffs you have available

and suddenly you are killing wotd bosses in 3 seconds. everyone bitches about ninjutsu builds being cheap and ez mode but it's actually one of the weakest OP builds. living weapon critical builds are disgustingly OP. You don't even need to max out every avalible stat to have an extremely powerful character.
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>>183870625
date's other spirit my man
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am i missing something if i only play main missions in way of the samurai difficulty, im new but my friend told me that way of the strong brings a new rarity in weapons..so, whats the advice? doing aaaaal the main and sidequest in WotS, im afraid of missing something like..cutscenes? or quest or something..OR play only main quest, then in way of the strong i can play all the main and sidequest?
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>>183871148
yes
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>>183871018
Oh, thanks!
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>>183871246
so..rush way of the samurai then?
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>>183871728
i'd say do a few side missions, a few amrita for leveling up won't hurt for the final mission
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>yokai hanzo for the final boss of dlc3
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Anyone find a good place to farm ethereals yet? I tried farming Naomasa and Muneshige for a bit to see if they would drop orange versions of their gear but I didn't get shit except for some crappy orange prayer beads.
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>>183873576
Muneshige drops orange gear, I got an orange version of his sword
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Are those bloodied blade pieces the drop from final DLC 2 boss or something or you can actually farm these without wanting to kill yourself?
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>>183875829
they drop from the new slime creatures. i got a bunch of them from disassembling divines
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>>183866454
proficiency gains seem to be boosted hard, i did the first mission 2 times on samurai and i'm already pretty much maxed the tonfa
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>>183861824
Death to bandits around the shrine and near water
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>>183875985
the stronger the enemies the faster you gain it
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>>183877558
Samurai enemies are fucking weak though, 190 is like end of the first land of Strong
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>>183875098

So at least there's a reliable way to farm sets that belong to bosses, anyone looking to get ethereal Tatenashi is fucked though.
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>>183878547
You mean initial adopters are fucked unless ethereals can't be revenant dropped.
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>>183878224
proficiency isn't hard to gain anyway, I had every weapon maxed out on my first playthrough , well before getting near omi region.
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>>183878738

You can't get ethereals from player revenants, I killed one that had orange in every slot and got nothing but 6 divine fragments.
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>>183878932
It isn't but growth was definitely much worse before
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Does Nue still have a big chance of dropping Raikiri or better just wait until it drops naturally?
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Just beat umi-bozo in WotW, that will be a tough fight for a lot of players I think. Even with maxed ninja stats and using Hanzo's comically oversized acme/iga bombs it took quite a bit to kill.
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>>183880263
mega damas fucking suck though, use normal ones, they deal ridiculous fire damage
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>>183880446
Wait what, they buffed the bombs?
I remember that all of them dealt shit damage.
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>>183880446
yeah but you want maximum impact on the weak spot while it's there
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>>183880594
With traditional kunai build they deal like 2k pure damage and around 7k fire damage for me, this is usually enough to oneshot trash and do decent enough damage to bigger stuff. In fact firebombing umi-cancer is how i did it through the whole WotD, anything else deals fuckall damage to it
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>>183880760
yeah I just tried using a fire talisman on kusari and each hit was doing about 170 damage, I couldn't even see the health bar going down. one bomb does about the same as you, 7k fire damage. still takes like 30 to kill it the wise one though. That fight will be rough as fuck even for people with high level fire weapons.
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What happens if i cast purge talismans over red aura/boss stuff? Would they lose their aura/buffs or it does nothing?
>>183881095
Well demon one was already bullshit so it's safe to expect a higher difficulty is even more bullshit. Yet shadowround, normal bombs and living weapon regen still exist and should help enough
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>>183881283
>What happens if i cast purge talismans over red aura/boss stuff? Would they lose their aura/buffs or it does nothing?

nothing
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Are offensive onmyo casters any good thanks to new talismans?
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>>183881625
are you talking to me?
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>>183881590
Then what's the point, just pvp? Or it at least removes normal buffs?
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What makes the fight with Sanada so good? Is it that even stair strats still require effort? Is it that he got his own song after the first DLC had nothing but reused music? Is it just the guy in general?
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more like eternal grinding...

all that updates in the forging went down in the drain...
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I've just helped 10 people do umi bozo and fully half of them are doing the fight without lighting the torches. it's fine on WotS but when the mini-umi's can nearly one shot you light the fucking torches.
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ethereal framing spot,
suicide stage
where?
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>>183882135
>stair strats
what
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>>183847468
This wasn't in DLC2, was it?
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>>183882413
>ethereal framing spot
marobashi
>suicide stage
what
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So now that it's been out for a while:

Best tonfa? Favorite new set? Rate DLC2 against base game and the first one?
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Does the drop rate for oranges increase in later missions? Cause it's been fucking awful in the first three areas so far.
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>>183882525
>>suicide stage
>what
you know,
where people deliberately suicide,
so you can fight with their revenants to get the item
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Best/most efficient amrita farm? Running that short mission where you don't need to kill anything in basegame on WotW? Or would that be preferred for dosh?
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>>183882421
>run up stairs at the back
>wait for him to follow you up then drop off the side
>100% of the time he will follow you off the ledge and leaves his back open until Mothfu LW phase
>If he goes back to Horse LW after his AI will be super improved for some reason so it gets harder
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>>183882612
>Best tonfa?
Gunsticks
>Favorite new set?
Sarutobi lookswise, none skillwise
>Rate DLC2 against base game and the first one?
Good but base game and first DLC were better
>>183882652
Death to bandits is the one but ethereals apparently don't revenant drop either so this is now useless
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all those updates, and still only op characters are fire kusari spinners
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>>183882716
What I mean is to grind levels, I wanna get max leveled just because. Seems WotW is designed around being maxed out anyway? And there is surely more NG+es coming in the last dlc.
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>>183882725
So basically pretend coprodemon?
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>>183882725
I wouldn't even have thought about trying this against him, but I'm glad I didn't. Why nullify the difficulty in an easy boss?
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>>183882758
>base game and first DLC were better
Not really
Both of the main missions in this murdered the level design of the first DLC and the second was pretty much an actually good version of the barefoot Okatsu mission. Both fights were better as well and actually balanced for using something slower than a katana.
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>>183882758
>Death to bandits is the one but ethereals apparently don't revenant drop either so this is now useless

shit,
yokai realm with companion seems dead too,
or the just disconnect cos you are not ll 500 already.

so only op builds solo and get the ethereals,
mediocre are sill mediocre.

way of the wise is dead already
too bad...
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>>183882769
have fun with that after 460 or so you need a billion amrita to level up.
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>>183883027
What, they increased it? Because last I heard it stopped at like 10M or 10B or whatever, and then it was about an evening of grinding to max level
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>>183883068
Yes they did, the game literally tells you that. Spirit levels were increased as well
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only way to get the new ethereal ninja set is to replay all that rain of arrows over and over again....

fuck you guys,
seriously....
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What's the best spot for farming Amrita? I'm still level 122 and need to grind up until at least 150
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>>183883109
Well shit, so it's practically impossible to get maxed now? Or can you downgrade your game version, grind to max, patch it and then?
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>>183883160
>TN gets players to dread raining arrows with their DLC
>meanwhile From Software could barely get anyone to care about uniquely designed angels shooting lasers at you in theirs
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>>183883243
>>183883160
You can literally sprint through that place after the first volley with sneaky+gofast ninjutsus.
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>>183883160
Go fast with tiger scroll
Be aware the go to main menu farming method still works
Dunno why you want sarutobi armor anyway, it's shit, if you want looks just transmog
>>183883243
Well let's be honest dragonbow meme archers are more famous
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>>183883068
yea,
abusers are max leveled so quickly.
devs panicked and increased the level scaling.
now regular players can't even lvl up their guardians to max.
so the quit.

basically game is full of all max abusers or clueless newbies,
nothing n between
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What's considered a level softcap now? Does levels matter in matchmaking/coop/pvp?
What's your personal favorite build right now, and at what level is that?

I just feel that I'm low at 170, but I still have decent enough gear to beat every boss thrown at me first try.
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>>183883328
i am not beefed up enough to go solo,
when do it with a companion they all die in the first volley
fuck my life...
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>>183883243
TRC being a travesty has more to do with that than this DLC being good
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>>183883404
its the gear man,
if you have good items lvl is irrelevant.

but if you are less than 300 you will have real hard time getting good items
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>>183883515
Do drops scale with level?
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>>183883243
you expect that from the From Software
and if you do that stage one you are done,
you only need to go back for luls...
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>>183883569
drops scale with difficulty
if you want ethereal items you need to do the way if the wise missions

if you wan find a high lvled dude to carry you in the WoW stages you can get op items in no time
[assuming you already have access to higher lvls]
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>>183883696
Then being "less than 300" isn't relevant?
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>>183883779
Why would you be less than 300? WotD rains amrita.
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>>183883779
to gain access to Way of the Wise
you need to do Way of the Demon Queens eyes mission [solo]

you need to lvl up to do that.
if you can pull it off at lvl 170,
then you are good to go
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>>183883937
I said I was 170... haven't needed to level up to clean WotS though.
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>>183883991
Well then it's clear. Thanks matey.
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>>183884001
Well you will need to level to do demon, nothing else to waste this amrita on anyway
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>>183883779
they wont co-op you if you are low level,
they will assume you are too weak or too clueless and ruin their tempo, so they will skip.

if you have a high lvled friend, then no problems
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>>183884117
Well there's enhancing guardians, but I already have the two I like on 30 which feels good enough right now.

>>183884158
Can you even see each others levels? I was summoned last night to the DLC2 first mission and I saw no way to see the host's stats. Only name showed.
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Why are the ethereal set bonus so shit?
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>>183884228
so divines don't become obsolete
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>>183883206
anyone?
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>>183884190
>Can you even see each others levels? I was summoned last night to the DLC2 first mission and I saw no way to see the host's stats. Only name showed.

i ma talking about co-oping in the yokai realm.
thats the fastest and safest way to farm until you are strong enough to go difficult missions solo.

summoning can be tricky because the guy you summoned is usually worse than you are and do more harm than any good...
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Is my 99 stam Todo/Obsidian axe build still viable
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>>183884297
I haven't found one myself, but as long as Ethereals can give higher stats, they automatically make Divines obsolete?
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>>183884190
I wasn't even specifically amrita farming and i'm now 300 something and have all spirits at 40. WotD shits an ungodly amount of amrita, literally dozens of millions per mission, you can max the spirit in like a single marobashi run.
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>>183883206
>>183884298
just play the stages dude,
you dont need to farm anything until way of the demon...

when you reach there:
Hidden King Revealed
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>>183884353
Sounds sweet as fuck. I guess I should get started on WotD.
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>>183884297
seems like they can spawn as normal set though
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>>183884434
>>183884434
at once,
WotD is already obsolete.
all the sweet stuff is in the WotW
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>>183884228

How does this work?
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Is it just me or tonfa is utterly mediocre?
It feels like a gutted, slowed down kusarigama with no mid-range attacks or actual DPS moves like Reaper. Maybe deon dance cancel shenanigans will make it better but so far i'm really not impressed. It doesn't even have any r1+circle move/buff.
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>>183884692
what do you mean?
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>>183885008
It literally doesn't feel like kusarishit at all, more like mostly better 2kat
block+square spin move does quite a lot of damage
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>>183885008
>>183885152
Tonfas are fucking strong as fuck. Of course a newly found 150 divine +0 tonfa isn't going to be on par with your max upgraded sword, odachi or axe.

It's more in your face than kusa, has faster combos, deals more ki break on par with axe, has tighter, more fun moves overall. Instead of kusa pulling enemies towards you, you literally leap in their face and can even dodge boss moves with that leap.
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how much longer before they let us save stat spreads with our equipment sets and just consume a book automatically whenever you switch
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>>183885770
Forever
Same time when they allow to respec specific part only, like only onmyo or only stats
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>>183793556
good luck finding x2 thrown weapon damages,
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Anybody else has a death fetish? I'm getting a boner over these WotW blowouts.
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>>183885983
Those are like constantly being given out though
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I'm dying so much in Isle of the Demons that it feels like I'm playing for the first time again.
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>>183885997
nope also fuck bosses with resistance against throw weapons in WotW.
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>>183886078
>next difficulty returns bullshit aggro range and durability
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>>183886124
>human bosses have knockdown resist now in wotw
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>>183886124
How much resistance?
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>>183886213
>not every boss and enemie can throw random shurikans or kunai at you

They already gave all the buffs you can have to red mobs and boss in WotW.
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>>183886029
yea right,
on heavy armour
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>>183886304
enough to make kunai and storm kunai complete useless you need to respecc for some bosses.
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>>183886078
>>183886124
>>183886213
>>183886276
>>183886317
Wait, WotW actually makes the game slightly challenging again? Because afterb eating NG, no aspect of the game throughout WotS or WotD has been difficult in the slightest.
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Errr guys- Does KaraJishi regen health with every hit of Tonfa Demon Dance? because that would be kinda broke.
>About 20 hits per single dance
>20*20=400 Hp regen per DDance + the Kara skill attack increase

Can we have some confirmation?
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>>183886503
it should because it regens every hit on axe spin and such
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>>183886503
>just 400 hp
Not see anything broke here
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>>183790552
>Mothgirl (Male) ACTUALLY came back with Sanada

Holy shit yessss
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>>183886406
Lemme guess.
>Kunaifag
>Armourfag
>Axefag
Is it one of the above? Or do you just ochoko summon?
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>>183886582
go away mothfucker, you won't get your shit spirit this time and hopefully won't in dlc 3 as well
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>>183886567
>400 hp per DDance
>The combo has 2-3 DDances
>Near infinite poise during use
>Can literally sustain a WotD boss without flinching
Yeah, it seems OK
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>>183886582
>Mothgirl
>Male
Wat
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>>183886702
>5-6 demon dances per few seconds
Sure not happening
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>>183886621
Kusa+spear with iga, later and currently tonfa+fanatics with suzaku. Never even tried a kunai/ranged build, never felt like bothering with an armor build because it seemed too easy mode, and the axe moveset is boring.
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>>183886406
>everything 1 hits you
>you just search for the newest cheese
>is this difficult now

I dunno if I call WotW difficult or straight bullshit sometimes. I mean 99% you cheese everything with LW anyways.
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>>183886851
>you just search
I haven't taken build advice since the first few hours of NG. Stop being a shitter and think for yourself for once, Nioh is a fucking GOTY game but it's really easy to break.
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>>183886621
>Armourfag
>Axefag
What do you mean by these?
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>>183886851
>using gameplay mechanics is cheesing
what the kek is this hek talkin bout lol
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>>183887017
Favourite meme of soulbabs "if it's not weapon swinging it's cheesing"
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>>183886908
I meant by yourself 2bh also its not like Nioh has complex builds
>Stop being a shitter

I'm already in the 5th region in WotW mate. Soon 6th and then I can go afk farming Marobashi.
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>>183887017
I see enemies wearing new masks, do they drop/become craftable? I have a fucking boner for masks.
>>
Where the fuck is Sakon's hat you assholes
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>>183886621
m8 axe has been high effort for awhile now, mainly after the big intensity nerf
the cheese weapon was always kusarigama
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>>183887643
how the fuck do you even fight something that can block with it
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>>183887643
Man when has there been an intensity nerf? I haven't even noticed. I only remember that it was actually made stronger at one point.
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>>183887643
To be fair axe high stance strong attacks = kusa pulling in terms of cheese and raping power. People who use both are the highest tier cheesers, but then again, cheesing isn't a thing in most games including this, stop using a word you don't understand.
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>>183887748
it was buffed when the season pass went on sale, then nerfed to be worse than it was originally when DLC1 came out
>>
dropped the game at the end of the first dlc
finished the fsecond dlc right now,
had a dual katana build, with no grinding at all.

now i want to go to Way of the Wise

what is the most easy to pull build that will keep me in the WoTW

[lvl 330]
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>>183887891
probably ninjutsu but there are no easy builds anymore thanks to pvp cancer.
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>>183887873
Oh. I've been playing intensity axe since NG and I didn't even notice anything's changed.
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Tonfa build with limited stats (level 200)?
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>tfw just going through the motions in WotW
>not really collecting stuff because everything I do will be useless come DLC3 anyway

I'm just going to do the bare minimum in WotW to ensure that I can play the next difficulty as soon as the DLC drops. I've already 100% cleared all the other Ways, other than this new DLC. Who am I kidding I'll probably 100% WotW in a few weeks when i'm bored.
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>>183888171
Literally nothing wrong with that? Next dlc is probably around winter and it's a lot of time to beat everything
>>
reminder that Nioh 2 will never be set during the Meiji Restoration
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>>183888482
>implying nioh 2 will exist
>>
Can anyone give me a concrete list of what changes with enemies/bosses in Way of the Wise? So far I've seen:

>DLC enemies replacing old enemies
>Old enemies have new moves
>More buffed red enemies
>Bosses have kunai/magic resistance
>Humanoids have knockdown resistance

Are all of these true? It sounds a lot more interesting than Way of the Demon so far.
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>>183888560
>chore sounds more interesting
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>>183888542
>implying nioh is dragons dogma owned by capcom

though I don't know if koei are any better
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>>183888701
People have shit taste and no one cares about nioh, don't see part 2 happening
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>>183886919
>Armourfag
Equipping some of the heaviest armour can give the highest Def stats,whilst also increasing Poise. It can basically make you invulnerable, especially when one of new Heavy sets give 1500Hp upon 5 pieces

>Axefag
Axes can have some crazy high AR's upon using the free buff, and the spin2win move can basically mean they are immune from damage due to the knockback. Range counters them, but due to their investment in Stamina, they often have Cannons equipped vs Skeletrons with range

Basically as cheezy as Kunai, although less prevalent because instead of having near no Hp as a downside, they are both relatively slow moving sets, meaning speedrunning levels is less viable with them

>>183887017
>2-3 shotting a boss/PvPer with the enemy unable to respond
>Minmaxing and abusing mechanics intended for other purposes
>not gitting gud with mechanical skill
>This isn't cheese
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>>183888482
Nah. Hopefully will be in Chinese Three Kingdom era with you playing as the merchant Leon of Roman Empire aka Qin Lun

http://kongming.net/encyclopedia/Qin-Lun
>>
wut?!?
is this how it ends?
or there are more DLCs coming?!?
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>>183888542
>successful KT IP that hasn't been ruined by obscene digital content practices yet
>devs have already talked about the sequel being set further into the past
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>>183886659
>>183886772
They will be M I N E
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>>183888821
>centering your whole build around defense being shit at anything else is cheese
>using a weapon the way it's intended to use is cheese
>muh mechanical skeell
>>>/dsg/
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>>183888821
I am heavy armor axe fag. I was pretty invulnerable in way of the strong, but all this armor doesn't really mean much in the higher difficulties.
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>>183888749
>No one cares about nioh

Do what, the game sold incredibly well nigga.
>>
>>183888821

I invented the 99 stam axe build
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>>183888821
You realize that setting yourself up to one hit kill a boss is a skill of its own, right? Surely you can't be this retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhdaUCeDjiE
Maybe it's easier to do in Nioh but nothing about it is cheesing.
>>
>>183889112
Yeah then why nioh general is permanently dead until a new content infusion?
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>>183888482
>Nioh Creed 2:Syndicate
Shit idea

It's a pretty obvious standalone title. There were no other white samurai, and any point later in history had basically no war to exploit for story purposes. DL3 will end with Ieyasu banning all foreigners to Japan after Wirriam beats his wife into submission. Wirriam and Maria will get their own shogunate and live happily ever after, perhaps with a twist at the end with Wirriam in the 21st century because he can't physically die and has to kill Yokai for eternity.
>>
>>183889265

Because the best way to play Nioh is to finish the new DLC & difficulty and then quit until the next update. It keeps it fresh.
>>
Anybody knows what determines the Grace of "X" bonus for ethereal items? Is it fixed or totally RNG?
>>
>>183889265
>>183889386
Exactly how you should play any Souls game as well. I'm not sure what autists find enjoyable about repeating the same shit in ANY game, but hey I don't judge.
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>>183889425
rng also not every ethereal item is grace of "X"
see
>>183884528
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>>183889330
>he doesn't want the Shinsengumi to have any substantial representation in vidya ever
>>
Is tonfa shit? I started a new game to check them out and I gotta tell you they seem pretty shit. Block+Square hits a thousand times for nothing. Does it get better when I get demon dance? The ki damage is pretty nice and the Block + triangle move on the high stance that moves you a large distance seems good. Every enemy dodges Block + triangle from medium stance it seems like.
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>>183889330
>Maria
Don't pair wirriam with that spic whore, hope we will kill her extremely dead in dlc 3.
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>>183889820

Don't ever talk about my waifu that way again
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>>183889682
It's been done to death but Hijikata and his Shinsengumi would make pretty bad ass antagonists.
>>
>>183889914
Don't bring your shit taste in waifus here ever again
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>>183889645
I think only items without set bonuses can have Grace. If it's rng then it's totally fucked, there seems to be quite a few grace types and I've found 5+ different ones so far
>>
So are Spirit builds all shit?
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>lady maria of the astral clocktower
>so beautiful men make sex dolls in her likeness

>senorita maria of the back garden shed
>immigrant cockroach scuttling across the countryside causing a ruckus
>>
is ethereal a direct upgrade to divine much like exotic to divine, or do you just want it for set bonuses?
>>
>>183888998
>This yellow spirit is actually a green wind spirit now
I just wanted a new qt lighting spirit waifu I could use on my thunderbuild.

>>183889073
If you looked carefully, I did'nt at all imply that armourfagging is bad because anon >>183889091 sums it up nicely. I did however criticise the one trick pony spin2winners, because they obviously cant play the game the way it was intended to be played, thus must crutch on a broken 1 button build to beat the game-alike the Kunaifags

>>183889171
>Farming for 13 hours, then using one of every talisman at once, before pressing a single button
Not as bad as Beyblades or Kunaifags, but still a different flavour of cheese

>>183889682
>He just thinks it would be impractical
I suppose it would be possible if they went for a 'last samurai' job, with an immortal Wirriam having to finally die with the old world, finishing up with the Satsuma rebellion and the Battle of Shiroyama.

>>183889820
What would Wirriam do though? Racemix? Nah, he want some of that Spaniard ass. Believe it or not burgerbro, but the European Spaniards were pretty big players back in the day. But seriously who else do you think Wirriam will end up with? Saorsia is has no body, Okatsu will go lone wolf and Ieyasu wouldn't allow it and Fuku is taking Oni dick
>>
>>183890001
Not shit, but not as good as they once were

>>183890084
Maria of the Shed Next Door isn't Turkish. She is a qt Spanish chick
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>>183890286
>But seriously who else do you think Wirriam will end up with?
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>>183889917
>It's been done to death
not nearly enough desu, in anime I would be more inclined to agree
especially not after the years and years of nobunaga
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>>183890525
>Implying he would marry down instead of having a powerwife in feudal Japan
Maria is his best and only option. When he dickslaps her, she will recover from a bout of amnesia and be his loving faithful wife
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>>183890537
Actually that's fair; I was thinking about manga/anime. There aren't any videogames set in the meiji restoration that I can think of off hand.
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Does Mariah drop her rapier? Does it have a unique moveset or nah?
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>>183890537
I'm actually happy Nioh wasn't set in the time of Nobunaga and instead in Ieyasu. Hideyoshi would have been nice to at least see, but I'm content as is.
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>>183890963
No, but in DL3 she gonna get even rapier towards Wirriam
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>>183890231
direct upgrade
divine is useless now
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>>183890537
you know if there was a game set in that period and there was a need to tie it to William you could easily just invent a half breed descendant that joins up with Shinsengumi as a peasant and go from there.
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>>183891373
William doesn't appear to age anyways, at least compared to a now grey haired Ieyasu and with the Tachibana's now dead due to age. Saorisa will most likely be a long term curse, as he appears not to be able to die at all. He could probably live it out until the Meiji restoration
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>>183891373
>>183891753
>make Ken-sama fight his Ken-sama spawn that turned out like a mini-Kelley
I'd buy it
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with all those options,
there is no dual wield ninja build

https://youtu.be/dUMeU1tSdUY
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>>183891753
The thing is only 5 years have gone by. William is supposed to marry Oyuki (who will probably be Okatsu) after this, and seems young enough for that span of time to not have such a big impact on his appearance.
Plus if he was greying you wouldn't be able to tell anyway
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>>183891907
Would only work if he fucked a baddie.
Confirmed Maria is Wirriams lover
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>>183892248
nah growing up as half foreigner is the most common troubled child backstory in nip fiction, it doesn't matter who the mother is
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>>183892341
Yeah, but heroic sperm needs to be countered by evil egg ie Maria
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>>183891250
so because we can't forge it we just have to grind for drops and hope we get a 6 slot one without an inheritable if we want a perfect weapon.

fantastic
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>>183892206
if oyuki is a character she would be one, I think okatsu is the only non-historical character in the game.
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>>183893280
>Can'y grind
What, so there is no kind of ethereal fragments yet? What happens when you disassemble them?
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Did this game sell well in japan? Could the nips handle a game where gaijin beat all of their legendary people?
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How is WotW made harder, and is it worth doing WotD TriKelley with minimal loot for it
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>>183893387
Oyuki's name has so little evidence backing it that it's not even a sure thing; just about everything regarding William's wife is unknown. Okatsu fits the mold pretty well on top of having a similar name.
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>>183893539
knowing my luck they'll introduce ethereal fragments in dlc3 right after I finish farming all my items
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>>183893638
3Kelleys is always worth doing tbqh it's one of the best fights in the game. Easily my favorite until Sanada came in this DLC
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>>183893638
See
>>183888560
for some things
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>can't forge ethereals
For what purpose
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>>183894141
because they're trying the old lv 320 weapons idea again
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>>183893853
>Kunai/Magic resist
>Replaced enemies
>Knockdown resist
Good

What are the new enemy moves like? Any of note that I should be aware of?

>>183893812
Sanada was nice, but after the Date's he felt a bit of a pushover. TriKelley is just anti fun, would have preferred 2 Kelleys with full abilities at double damage/hp rather than the 3 with instakills we have. Hundred is better tbqhfam

>>183894141
Because come DL3 ethereal frags will start to drop, as well as ethereal umbracite
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>want to finish all mission on wise
>remember the omnyo dojo mission where you basically just fight nue with a wooden weapon

that took forever in demon how the fuck long is it going to take in wise
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>>183894309
Hundred Eyes is pure cancer after the stealth buff he got last DLC
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>>183894309
Well the one I can think of right now is new move by those one eyed big guys. It used to be very easy to go behind and kill it, but now it can suddenly sit down on you if you're behind it and that's hilarious.
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>>183894476
Not him, but what was the change?
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>>183894648
the eyes became super lethal, WotS damage was doubled. Never bothered to check base difficulty but I've heard similar complaints
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>>183894528
>Sits down to kill Samurai master
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>>183894763
Dude, Bishas Centipede talisman just continually deletes all the eyes for you whilst you whale on tentacle porn
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Why is Tengen a wind spirit?
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>>183895425
Because its a birb
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>>183895559
>What is Suzaku
>>
>movement speed (aiming ranged weapon) 100%
Seems like good thing.
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>>183896942
Basically walk at normal speed while aiming. Good for ranged, non-kunai builds like Saika buil;ds
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Maria supporters need to be skinned
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Any good builds for the new spirits?
The squid man I would guess would work best with a build based around inflicting Water status, since it has Water bonus and prevents saturated enemies from locking on. I really like the Guardian Talisman too, but I don't know if it's that useful.
I can't wrap my head around the kirin. A decent chunk of the bonuses comes from putting yourself at risk, like bonus for having a status inflicted on you or attacking while the enemy is attacking. Seems too risky for me.
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>>183891753
>with the Tachibana's now dead due to age
I'm not sure if I would say that someone that died at age 33 died of age-related complications.
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>>183896842
Also a bird but more importantly a phoenix.
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what a great dlc
what are the side mission bosses like besides 0 punishment Date
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>>183899296
The side mission set at the siege has enemy waves.
Full length fox mission has enemy waves during the finale, mostly foxes and mages, main enemy is a big fox.
One is a duel against Sasaki Kojiro, he uses an odachi.
Then there is one set in Sanada's stage, again some waves, I think it ends with a vengeful spirit.
The last one, if I'm not remembering wrong, is a boss rush with all the Date boys.
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>>183900150
>boss rush with all the Date boys.
Fuck that mission. Goddamn when they suddenly put 10 rifle and cannon guys around the boss battle arena.
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Are there any visual differences between the Sanada Crimson set and the Scion of Virtue set?
I know the actual attributes are different.
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>>183790552
Am I doing something wrong with the odachi? The damage doesn't seem like it's there and my spear is better at depleting enemy ki and capitalizing on it.
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>>183893539
they give 3 divines when disassembled.
you can reforge and soul forge.

so just disassemble the divines hard divine shards,
save,
abuse
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>>183893698
this,
dont forge anything until they finish DLCs,
they are going to add new tier and new item rank anyway...
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>>183894445
dual/parry/last strike/repeat
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>>183900641
Scion is shinier
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holy fuck guys
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>wotd
>every single attack from every single type of enemy is a one hit death
Wow.... such difficulty... such challenge... wow... they sure... thought this one through... wow... it sure is difficult... to not be given any chance at all... w-we dark souls now xDDD..
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>>183902732
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I've been playing Nioh lately, and I cannot get past the first level. Why do my attacks feel so weak? How do I do combos while managing ki-pulse? Why do they hit so hard? Why do I only get three healing items? Please give me tips, I'm enjoying it but I'm trash at this game
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>>183902972
Upgrade your gear fuckface
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>>183903204
WHAT
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>>183903243
Yeah because 20 armor becoming 20 less damage from attacks that do over 3000 sure will save me.
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>>183903378

>not having over 3000 HP.

I have 4700 and I haven't even started WotD yet.
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>>183903620
I have 2900 and I absolutely overpowered WotS with no issues, I can't even see how it's possible to have that much
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>>183903737
Your build sucks m8
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>>183903282
yea probably not working on red mobs though
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>>183902291
>parrying nue

what are you talking about you fucking drug addict
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>>183903992
Not at all, though I did downgrade recently from an absolutely so-broken-it-got-boring fanatics suzaku living weapon build. Would just one hit kill everything instead.
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>>183898146
>attacking while the enemy is attacking
Odachi has a mystic art that inflicts massive ki damage on counter hits
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>>183904029
How does it actually work?
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>tonfa has no good dps or burst damage moves
>almost all skills have huge startups
>uppercut never launches anything
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>>183903992
>builds in nioh
lmao what, there is no such thing as builds in this game, leveling is too easy, getting skill points from loot makes it even easier, and you can respec cheap almost anytime; and that's not even to mention that "builds" in nioh are just "spend enough to wear your shit and dump everything into hp and damage"
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>>183903378
>refuse to upgrade armour because it's useless
>get mad when everything one shots you through your unpgraded armour
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>>183903214
p-please help
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>>183904529
the most important part of a build is the weapon and armour you silly cunt. getting a cohesive set(s) all rolled with the right stats actually does take a bit of work.
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>>183904752
git gud the first level molested me hard too. you just need to get used to the combat system. it's not souls, do not play it like souls.
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>>183904664
>>183904817
Out of pure curiosity I equipped loot I found in the area, increasing my armor by about +600.

>onryoki's damage went up from 3100 per hit to 3400 per hit
Okay, thanks for that advice.
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Can I farm smithing texts in Way of the Samurai? I want that Oni Sakon spear.
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>>183905684
Yes.
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>>183905684
You can. They say that the chances are bigger the higher your difficulty is though.
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>>183905684
yeah I think there's only one that you can't get in samurai
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>>183905587
armour has effects too, not just a single number for the defence rating.
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Kind of related, where does the new mirror drop, and is it locked to higher difficulties?
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>>183906476
I found some dropping randomly in the main game on WotW.
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>>183906476
I got one from the cave near the end of Isle of Demons.
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see this is why no one likes this game. You can't just go to a place in the level and find the cool new thing they added you have to farm for it. Farming is boring and unecessary.
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where the fuck can i get a wooden dual sword?

also the complete all missions trophy requires twilight missions?
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>>183909020
Marobashi
Yes
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>>183903737

Body should be maxed. All armor should have +Life on them, and join the clan that gives +HP for stamina.
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>>183909353
>leveling up body
Hello spearcuck, how is that red meme set working for you?
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Tonfas are fucking atrocious, the hell were they thinking with them?
They feel like gutted 2kat with no good dps moves and awful cancel gimmick instead.
I mean, not even an r1+circle move? What the fuck?
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>>183909707
Git gud. Tonfa's Devil Dash -> Pulverize attack, which can be repeated nearly endlessly if you do it right, is the highest dps attack in the game
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>>183909291
thanks
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What do Twin Fox Orbs do?
The description explains jackshit.
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>>183909707
this , my main problen is that they don't have good strong attacks like sign of the cross or lai , so finishing strong yokais is suffering not to mention that their combos can be stopped with a simple guard making human fights a pain in the ass
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>>183911112
Nothing outside of their own mission.
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>dont use sloth its cheap!!!!
>literally every single revenant spams it
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>>183911195
>any humanoid worth shit can perfectly evade its distance-closing attacks like low stance or high stance strong and all tonfa skills have awful tracking
>all on-guard abilities are absolutely worthless, kusarigama's kick is like twice as fast, uppercut doesn't launch shit
>no actual parry
>full pulverize usually can't even break guard of anything worth shit
the fuck they were thinking with design of this weapon
odachi is one of my favourite weapons in the game but this one is simply abhorrent
it's bad against humans, it's bad against crowds, it's shit for dps, it's awful against yokai, it has some of the slowest running attacks in the entire fucking game
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>>183912552
Thank god onmyo amulet protection exists now.
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>>183913587
It does literally nothing against sloth
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>>183910236
with what stance?
>>
I would have much more incentives to not cheese humanoids if they actually tried to fight you proper as well and not spammed exclusively unparryable special snowflake moves and constant grabs. You try to cheese me - i cheese you, go fuck yourself m8.
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>>183910236
Anon, a single high stance kusarigama combo deals more damage than pulverize.
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>>183909485

Pretty well since I use axe and 1kat, both with body scaling.
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>>183913892
It doesn't?
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>wotd hino enma deals 4000-6000 damage per hit
fun game
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>>183916283
I had a piece of gear with it and it did nothing at all
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>>183916387
It must suck to suck at this game.
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>>183917426
Well hino and her bullshit para daggers can go choke on a dick desu
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>Just started Way of the Demon
>No revanants to farm item drops off on "Death to Bandits"

Fuck
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What does accessory stats like "Stealth for Yokai A" do?
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>>183917952
It's makes it harder for them to notice you.
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>>183917952

It means Yokai enemies can't see you for shit. Pretty useless since the other aggro triggers work normally.
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>Gonna beat Sanada.
>Still on WotS because I skilled the first DLC.
>Gap is fucking real.
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>>183904752
Get the skill which Ki Pulses during a dash. Just make game more fluid. Otherwise it's just a case of G I T.
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>>183903214
In order?
Your attacks are weak because you're probably attacking in mid or low stance, high stance give the highest amount of damage.
Combos and ki-pulse is more for recovery, you can get the same effect by dodging and then continuing the assault.
They hit hard because you have shit armour.
You get three healing items because you need to increase the amount you have with offerings and finding Kodamas, then activating the Healer Blessing.
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>>183918651
I feel you man
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They're never going to add dual pistols, are they?
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>>183919981
sanada's single pistol when
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>>183920043
That better not be the DL3 stamina weapon
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Tatenashi and spear (CTA Stamina) or full Unrivalled Warrior with Odachi?
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>>183917061
You need to guard for it to work.
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>>183920043

Even quicker than a bow (but does less damage) and you can fire it whilst moving

Trust me, my dad works at nioh
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>>183922816
I did and it still did fuckall. Maybe it's bugged or something
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>>183923068
I haven't tested with revenants yet but it definitely works on the amulets the onmyoji enemies use.
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In the last mission, does everyone in the Sanada crew drop smithing texts?

One of them dropped for me and now I'm scared I'll have to farm that shit over and over for everyone's
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>>183923358
So far only 5 have been confirmed to drop texts.
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>>183922531
>full Unrivalled Warrior with Odachi?
Currently using this, but I have a better Odachi that does more damage. Otherwise I find the set bonus better than Tatanashi.
Should I use the set Odachi or the Damage Doachi?
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>>183923908

Get Yasakani and you won't have to choose. Until then, go with the other odachi. The Ki regen is nice, but Kato can cover that if you need it badly.
>>
Oh shit. Ethereal amaterasu set's last bonus is 2x damage when your 0 ki.
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>>183924537

And it stacks with the axe bonus. Ammy is now the definitive axe set.
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Is the cunt you need to dual sword in a separate mission or he's one of 10 sanada's losers?
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>>183924537

>Ethereal sets

I wouldn't rely on it. At least you can forge divines, ethereals are just pure RNG. Which is good, I suppose. Makes it more exciting when they appear.
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>>183924938
Separate mission.
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>>183924320
Thanks anon.
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>>183924926
>>183925094
The grind is calling me.
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>>183925094

Don't worry, DLC3 will come with an ethereal forge! Only $9.99, goy!
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>>183925254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnxv95EZGs
Have some music while you do, anon.
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>>183925436

I'm so glad they fixed the music playback issue. Those boss themes were getting repetitive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c87ARHzyO4k
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Just in case somebody didn't know; you get 3 div frags for every ethereal equipment a revenant has.
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>>183925907

It's not enough to fill the void of fighting a Revenant with an ethereal Tombo-Kiri
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I haven't played in a while. Last boss I fought was a Frog I think. How far along in the game am I?
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>>183926324
I'd say about halfway through.
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This is the first time I've ever died to Kelly-Muneshige. So this is the power of the Wise.
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Kabuki Pose is great, it pretty much completes the Yoshimitsu-style build I was going for

The next difficulty better be called Way of the Nioh
>>
Good god trying to co op on the Siege of Osaka Winter mission is horrible. So many hosts just get bulldozed by Arrows
>>
so can you get these new fox masks?
>>
>>183930025
Apparently they drop at shrine from onmyo mages
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>>183930025
Yes, at the fox mission.
White masks drop from mages that wear white masks and black masks from mages that wear black masks.
I recommend not placing any orbs until you have killed the mages, since many of them just die once they're placed.
>>
>give us a good defensive heavy set which isn't tatenashi
>make a new unforgeable rarity because fuck you go farm that nonrespawning enemy in the end of the mission lmao
Seriously can they just stop doing one step forward two steps back thing
Thanks satan
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>>183930352
>in the end of the mission
If he's right at the end of the mission you can use the titlescreen trick
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>>183930103
>>183930339
thanks familia
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>Dragon god sacred treasure set bonus
>4 pieces: No guard break (damage from projectiles)
Does this mean that I can take on cannonballs now?
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>>183930576
I can and i got the text this way but i don't see what was the point of doing this shit instead of just making ethereal fragments rare or something if they really don't want people to forge that hard
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>all torso stuff with coats lost coats
The fuck is this elaborate ruse, justice minister without coat is the ugliest thing i ever seen
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New fashion ideas from the Ten Sanada Braves

Until then, holy shit Yukimara is roasting my nuts on an open fire.
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>>183932105
did you turn on "hide shoulder belt?"
that might've been it. or maybe you need to wear the full set, or at least a few matching pieces for the coat to show, I think its pants + torso?
>>
>>183932901

If a chest piece that has a coat uses anything other than the leggings it matches, the coat disappears.
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>>183875829
They can be bought with Honor from Hisahide.
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>>183933123
Yes it was the reason, holy shit this is outright retarded
>>
>>183933412

Clipping reasons, I imagine. Works for me. Samurai General chest + Kingo leggings are my look.
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>>183933646
>using anything kingo
PINK HOMO
>>
>return of the gourd co-op
>as soon as the three bosses spawn the host starts running around doing nothing
What the fuck
>>
>>183934079

The leggings, anon.
>>
>go to death to bandits on WoTD
>barely any revenants at all
did they all move on to WoTW?
>>
>>183934892

Everyone uses Ohashi Bridge in Kinki Region.
>>
Anyone figured out what frame is the time to press the button to shoot the gunsticks? I can't activate those for shit
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>>183935775
just mash triangle lad
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>>183935818
I tried and it does nothing, it starts doing that dumb spin thing instead
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>>183935775

>>183935818 this

It's like you're really playing bayonetta
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>>183935940
are you doing the combo finishers?
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>>183936131
Yes, it does finisher, then i mash button and nothing happens until recovery frames pass and new combo starts. It's like the fucking thing is broken somehow
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>>183936321
you're mashing triangle AS you do the finisher yes? if you are then idk whats going wrong desu.
works for me
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>>183936419
Well disregard that seems like i use finishers wrong after all even if the shown motion is the same
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>>183853836
What makes him such is a cunt is that he has INFINITE FUCKING STAMINA.

I drop a lifeseal on him and he's blocking a fucking tri-axe attack all the way through with fucking blinking red stamina before comboing into me and he never fucking staggers.

What makes a great human boss? CHEATING THATS FUCKING WHAT.
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>>183871948

Don't
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>just got an ethereal odachi from a revenant
I thought ethereals couldn't drop from them?
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>>183790552
>STILL NO MARIA TRANSFORMATION

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
What's recommended starting gear to do WotD in? Like, actual numbers.

Also are there any DIFFERENT builds yet, or is everyone still running with the tankiest possible outfit? Are elements on your weapon still garbage and do no damage, only debuff which you can throw a quick onmyo for?
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>>183939168
You thought wrong.
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>>183939295
clearly
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>>183939168

You son of a bitch. I saw one with the odachi Kojiro uses
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>>183939392
Just wait a little, with ethereals actually confirmed dropping (even if rare) it's just a matter of time until this odachi will be given away by everyone
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>buy Okatsu

Yes / No / Maybe?
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Odachi build. Where do I go for here?

Also, did the DLC bring anything new for spear users? I used to run a mixed Red Demon + Crossed Sickles set and it was pretty fun, but I was getting oneshot by everything on NG+
>>
>>183939826
>no bare feet
no
>>
>>183939826
Of course you buy.
>>
>Want to go pure Ninja build
>Will just be spamming Kunkais and that's it

is there no other way
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>>183939974
Make a bomberman build
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>>183939974
>want to go pure ninja
>don't want to play ninja
then don't go ninja?
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How much of a numerical increase is ethereal over divine? I have bad memories of twilight murky demon realm and not sure i want to do dlc stuff in demon
>>183939974
Spam bombs or try to use the status ninjutsus
>>
>>183939827
You need 99 Body to start o WotD.
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>>183939974
Bombs, poison, traps, stealth.
>>
>>183940131
Is this some sort of bait
>>
>>183939974
Make a build around the huge cartoon bombs!
>>
Are offensive onmyo casters any good yet?
What's the best weapon type for 99 magic build?
>>
>>183939245
You're not gonna get her until her part in the story is done.
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>>183940412
Anything less, no matter how hard you upgrade your gear, you will be killed in one hit from every enemy on every mission.

>have average +10 armor
>3300 health
>enemies do 2000-5000 damage, so sometimes you'll be oneshot regardless
fun game
>>
>>183940828
Except for it's wrong because i beat the whole wotd with 20 body and the only stuff oneshotting me were revs and iceclops
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>>183940828

Which armor? +10 is for way of the strong m8
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>>183940828
are you sure you're not talking about WotW?
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>>183940828
This is why you need weaken melee weapons, it's always worth it except on WotW
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>>183941248
Fucking bullshit. LITERALLY every single enemy has at least one attack that is a one hit kill, the majority just poke you and you're dead. I could only get more tanky by equipping a homo tank set, but I'm not a fucking faggot. Gotta stay below 30% equip noob.

>>183941375
No? WotD doesn't even drop +10s with set bonuses, only hot garbage.

>>183941704
WotD, Way of the Demon, is a one hit kill massacre fest. It stat-ups everything by beyond 1000% from WotS.
>>
>>183941910
again you seem to be confusing WotD with WotW
>>
>>183941910

Then I guess I just imagined the numerous +15s and +16s I got from missions in the Omi region onwards.
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>>183942364
>omi and onwards
We're talking the very first region here, kiddo. It is in no place designed around someone who just finished WotS, that is the fucking problem here.
In WotS, no enemy, no boss does fucking 2000+ damage per attack. In WotD, 2000 is the bare minimum, I've seen up to 6500.
>>
>>183942794

Better get to forging divine equipment then
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>>183943098
>one matching takes like 150k or more cash
>missions don't even give 150k each
kek
>>
Anyone able to Revenant Trade? I am looking for items with 2x throwing/Kunkai damage on them. I just hit Way of the Demon and I feel lacking
>>
>>183943279
I would kill for 150k Soul Matching costs. I'm late WotD and the prices for me are around 3-7M.
>>
>>183943279

Join a clan that gives monetary rewards. Sell excess stuff. It's not hard, anon. See you in way of the wise.
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>>183943750
I don't think trading's possible anymore.
>>
So with that haraishi set, you can get a total of 1.95k+ life, with the 550 starred life roll, then of course you could also roll more life on each individual piece of your armour. Ontop of this your life could really skyrocket if you had max body and heart alongside being in that clan that gives you scaling HP
>>
Is there a sword made out of crystals? (The blade, that is) Like Ame-no-mahitotsu's Axe or Isurugi Kusarigama?
>>
Even if samurai feels lacking i still like it the most, high difficulties really feel like a competition of who can cheese the opposing side better
>>
I'm I crazy or did they buff Otani recently?
I used to be able to combo in circles around him during his combos, but now he suddenly does 180's mid combo.
>>
How does one start out on WotD?

In WotS, I fought revenants until I had a set I liked and then upgraded them as I played. In WotD, everything is super strong and soul matching stuff costs so much (and I can't even drop lv 200 gear yet)
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>>183944741
You kill red aura stuff and forget about revenants until like land 3 or maybe even later
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I haven't played this game since before the first DLC. I understand everything that I missed, and all the new stuff made me want to get back into it, so here I am. Couple of questions though -
-Is the Odachi good?
-Are the Tonfas good?
-Should I start over?
-I'm currently level 157. If I don't start over, what would be the best build/gear that would help me steamroll through way of the demon and forward to the good stuff?
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>>183945068
Yes
Yes
No
Kunai build
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>>183945180
You have any screens or links to a kunai build I could reference?
or should I learn to google
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How does tonfa prescience work? I've never seen it activate.
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>>183945276
Google heavy storm build, it's just 99 dex 99 skill with throw weapon damage x2 and other needed stuff
>>
Holy shit did they unironically put like every single buff ever on wotw stuff
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>>183945972
the problem here is that I'm not a high enough level to max all these out I don't think. I'll try regardless.
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>>183944991
Is there a decent place to farm without getting completely murdered?

Also, do I have to just trust luck to get the sets I want?
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>>183946331
You deal good enough damage starting from 30-40 and demon throws amrita into you
>>183946454
Death to bandits or ginchiyo the OP bot should start you up nice
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Neat. Just in time because kunai spam is shit on WotW. Also first accessory I've ever gotten with critical effects and I've been playing since launch. Time for Suzaku.
>>
>deflect projectiles
It's like the best shit ever, finally those archers and cannon faggots can go literally fuck themselves. Anyone tried using it in dlc or hilarious shit like parrying those arrows won't work?
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>>183945068
>-Are the Tonfas good?
No, unfortunately so far they seems to be the worst weapon type in the entire game.
Shit special moves (i mean, does it really need an awful kick that is twice slower than on kusarigama or uppercut move that doesn't launch anything despite description mentioning it?), mediocre normals, kinda mediocre demon dance -> pulverize gimmick, lack of any big DPS move virtually any other weapon type has.
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>>183947036

Tiger's Bite does launch enemies if you deplete their ki with it like that one axe skill. Not sure if there was a translation error or that bit was accidentally omitted. It's not anything flashy just the standard knockup animation.
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>a new difficulty

I dont even have enough motivation to finish Way of the Strong. Everything's way too repetitive
>>
>No Good Pure Spirit builds
>No good pure Magic builds

fug
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>>183947543
>Pure Spirit
Like how should this work if spirit only affects guardian spirits and they only can do LW and talismans?
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>>183947831
by actually giving us weapon type with pure spirit scaling
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>>183947543

I have my eyes on this set. Hopefully I can roll a full set of legendary Onmyo Hunter gear and Black Fox Mask with the Ying-yang Tonfa. It's going to take a lot of time and even more luck but maybe, just maybe, I can pull off an offensive onmyo build.
>>
>muneshige just hit me for 12000+1300lightning damage
>wotd
fun game
>>
>>183948218
And why would i want stat which does even less than body?
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>>183948412
That's a long fight, anon. Seems like each part of a "set" can have different grace of x bonus.
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>>183947472
Why don't you play with a friend anon?
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>>183948412
If you want to do a mage set i would recommend getting grace of tsukiyomi instead.
>>
Just started Way of the Demon, anyone willing to drop an ethereal bandit or two in Death to bandits?
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>>183950568
>ethereal revenant

fixed that.
>>
>>183950227
What's that?
>>
>>183950695
can you even drop ethereal revenants in WotD?
>>
Alchemy never
Offensive onmyo not sucking dick never
Iga set clone but for onmyo never
>>
How do you personally use stances?

After not getting anywhere against this bitch >>183948669 for an hour or so, I decided to on a whim try going tonfa medium stance and just mash square. It worked like a charm, stunlocked and broke his defense over and over, took him in one try. Wtf?

Obviously I've played the game wrong from the start because whatever weapon I've picked, I usually stick to one stance, OR generally switch between high and low only. This is one of the very rare few times I've even tried a weapon's medium stance moves.
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>>183951453
I don't know. I know you can drop ethereal revenants. I know divine revenants were droppable in way of the samurai.

Its worth a shot if anyone wants to try.
>>
>>183951910
you don't REALLY need to use any other stance than medium, its just a lot more stylish if you're fluxing between the 3
>>
>dude give muneshige every fucking buff in the game
>lets let weaken melee weapon last after quick change, despite every other effect in the game going away
>lets give him a gorillion health but let him one shot you unless you gouge the shit out of body
>lets change his AI so that he does nothing but spam his annoying fucking doggo and iai with garbage hitboxes
>lets give him infinite stamina regeneration but have his attacks phase through your guard and drain all of your stamina

WotW is pure shit. Whoever thought this was a good idea should be executed in public.
>>
>>183951910
high stance for taking the horns off yoki, mid stance for parrying and backwave-tempest, low stance for dps against emptied ki yokai and enemies close to the floor

I pretty much only use 1kat though
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>>183952320
don't forget
>lets make him and every other human boss have immense knockdown resistance
blew my mind when he went tumbling back the first time I tried daiba cheesing him, forced me to be honorabur and discord cheese him instead
>>
I'm not really feeling WotD

In WotS it felt like, while everything was strong, I was also strong

In WotD, I feel like I'm hitting things with a wet napkin while everything murders me and there's no easy access to gear like WotS. At least in WotS you could have a working set just grinding some revenants and forging what you couldn't drop. In WotS you need to farm red stuff and pray for drops
>>
>>183952886
I felt the same at first, but after only beating the first region just now >>183951910 the loot from the area has unfucked my damage. Onryoki had tougher skin than Muneshige, both could one hit kill me though, and Muneshige moves a lot faster.
Tonfa is my new favorite weapon for sure, and apparently it's way more effective out in the open against Muneshige than camping behind rocks. Or maybe the rock tactic just doesn't work for me.
>>
>>183952320

>having problems with 1v1 duels
>ever

There are a gazillion ways of disposing them. With shiggy I just debuffed his armor, buffed my damage, threw him in the air with enko talisman and started a killing strike = spearfall combo. Doesn't chain up anymore but still makes him lose a third of his life. Seeing how I have 6 spirit talismans he was a breeze. If you call that cheese I have about 3 other tactics to easily dispatch human bosses.
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>decide to try out new build since I never really experimented too much
>full ninja build with tonfas and Kusa
>die super easily, fuck up dodges all the time, don't know what's good or bad to use
Help
I'm only level 187, and haven't even beaten WotS
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Fuck yeah I just got the best effect ever
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>>183956367
>49.7%
So not unlimited stones.
>>
Do enemies have new moves now? The giant axe skeleton just used spin2win on me.
>>
>>183957278
Yes, way of the wise added new moves even for bosses too.
>>
>>183950695
>>183951453

Ethereal doesn't drop from revenants. You get 3 divine shards per would-be ethereal instead. Have fun in WotW shitter.
>>
>>183957278
Yes, from the top of my head the big skellie has become a mad spinner, the cyclops sits on you and the statues has a quicker upwards swing.
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>>183957278
some do i think giant toad have spinn like with his spear
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>tfw you uppercut a yokais horn off
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>>183957462

>can't get good inheritable effects off revenants outside of the unintentional farming zone
>can't get ethereal drops
>glory can be obtained infinitely more quickly in the PvP

They're doing their best to make revenants completely irrelevant.
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>>183957462
thats where you're wrong fucko
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>>183958070

Maybe there's a bugged mission like with inheritables or a certain point you need to be past. I've been killing revenants with ethereals all day, a few with nothing but ethereal gear, and it's always been 3xDivine shards for every ethereal that would have dropped. Which bridge mission is that? This requires further testing.
>>
>>183958442
the kinky region one
>>
>>183958442
>a bugged mission like with inheritables
explain pls
>>
>>183958442
Not him but I got a couple from revenants in the first Hino-enma mission.
>>
>>183957926
not really, they have had the level of their equipment droprate increase so you can still farm them for good inheritable effects, sacrificial soul matching materials, dissamebling materials or jut sell it. it sucks that in i would say a few months time most revenants will be loaded out with full ethereal so you only get fragment for killing them. they honestly should just had ethereal pieces drop but downgraded to divine. It shouldn't be a problem though, I presume 3x divine fragments will = 1 ethereal fragment once DLC3 is released and we will be forging our own ethereal sets.
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Are there any 'mandatory' ninjutsu I should always have with me?
>>
>>183946970

THIS

Cannon yokai get fucked, it's hilarious.
>>
>>183957462
>Ethereal doesn't drop from revenants.
This is factually wrong. It does drop from revenants, it has been confirmed, it just has a chance of converting to divine shard on drop.

So how about you get that pompous attitude and stick it up your ass? Oh wait, you'd have to get your head out first.
>>
>>183958905
quick change
>>
>>183958442
i got one from that side mission that was recovering kingo's sword
>>
>>183958905
quick change is handy but the dely it has in giving you back control is often enough to get you killed again anyway, sometimes I'd rather just die outright to speed it up.

3x igastyle kayaku-dama is always on me, with a properly levelled ninja build they do about 7k fire damage, enough to one shot any of those annoying as fucking mini umi-bozo's and all the different variants.
>>
they still haven't fixed the issue where the game just ignores inputs when you try to use items.
>>
>>183958615

Revenants effects have been changed so that they're randomized, but there's one level in WotS where they're not randomized at all if they're below level 150 +10.
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>>183959439
>>183959137
I keep hearing people talk about Kunai, so I assume it's great. How's storm kunai?

And the misc shit, like mines/status stuff
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Gotta love the mirror. Now I don't need literally anything other than my 1kat. True samurai style
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Does the leeching talisman and carnage talisman stack your attack power?
>>
>>183960619
just need one with no guardbreak on depleted ki so you can reflect cannons like a jedi
>>
>>183960020
Storm kunais are the bread and butter of ninja builds.
I wouldn't say they are essential for any other build, regular kunais are nice if you just need to take away a tiny amount of ki to exhaust the opponent, or if you want to grab an enemy's attention. Not very useful as main attack unless you're running a dedicated build though.
>>
>>183960843
They don't.
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>>183961048
Alright thanks. No reason to use it then since it drains faster than rejuvenation will heal and with carnage i can use protection to boost defense instead.
>>
>just encountered my first full ethereal revenant
holy fug
and I got absolutely nothing for it
>>
>>183961031
I think they all have a place, even shurikens.each storm kunai does half the damage of a regular kunai, so you need 2 to hit to equal damage. so kunais are good for the majority of fights, storms are for when you are behind and underneath a yokais ballsack ready tp punish them. I have a throwing speed up for shurikens effect, so they are good for quickly staggering and killing smaller and faster enemies like the dogs, the elemental skulls. if you get behind people you can from a distance stick a whole heap of shurikens in their back whereas you might only get one kunai in before they turn around.
>>
>>183960889

Recovery time out of Ki stacks and I have it on 3 different pieces of armor. 4 if I roll with Atlas. It's the next best thing
>>
>>183961427
Now fight him again 9 more times so you can get his gear.

Ethereal gear seem to have a 9/10 chance of turning into divine shards.
>>
Are the new magic element attack spells good or are they shit?
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>>183961680
>killed him twice already
>grave won't show up now
>>
>>183961795
go into console network settings and "test connection", then go back to the game and use the shrine and pushy L3 (Or is it R3?) to reconnect to the network.
That usually refreshes them for me.
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>have a really good rolled bow
>trying to inherit a new stat on
>it won't work
>wonder what the effect conflict is
>get pissed
>reforge all the effects away
>still doesn't work
>realise I had both the base and material equipped
>>
>>183962027
welp, its gone forever now I guess
spider castle near the end of the level incase anyones interested in looking for it
>>
How the fuck does Umbracite work? I thought it was supposed to let you pick any reforge but it only lets me select from 3 shitty ones?
>>
>>183963415
gives you a better chance at getting your preferred reforge.
reforging whatever stat you're trying to change also refreshes the possible outcomes table
>>
>>183894141
they are saving it for the 3rd DLC and new difficulty.
probably introduce a new blacksmith so save up those patronage points
>>
>>183904131
sorry my bad,
i didnt see the rue part.

dual/low stance/focus on his front right leg
>>
>>183904529
nioh build =
list of special abilities you need to put on gear to get the desired effect
>>
>>183905684
yes,
put on your swallow armour,
reforge to higher drop percentage specials
equip spider,
highest luck accessories
and hope for the best...
>>
>>183905587
i assume you are still on the WotSa
>>
>want to get to WotW as fast as possible
>thread says they changed it so that you only need to do one per region to advance to the next region
>Suffer through Onryoki, Umi-Bozo, and White Pussy all by my little virgin self
>region doesn't unlock

Goddammit. Also, WotD isn't as bad as I was expecting. Maybe because I went in with 150+7 gear across the board and stacked set bonuses with yakatsani magatama.
>>
>>183965251
Wait until you get to way of the wise. Some bosses are so much stronger than others. It took me like a dozen tries to beat byakko because of all the buffs he has. I'm glad I did though cos now I unlocked tokai and can grind giant frog brawl for amrita.
>>
just came back after the first DLC
finished Way of the Demon
didnt bother to grind farm at all,
now cant even clear the first stage in the WotW

I guess it is time to grind and farm.
can any body suggest a nice build based on Rabbit Spirit [preferably dual wield]

tl,dr
please give me a good Gyokuto build,
lvl 330ish
>>
Haven't played since around the time Dragon of the North came out. Any major buffs or debuffs of note?

Also maybe because I'm a fragile ninja in full hanzo but the enemies of Osaka siege kick my ass way more than some of the foes in Way of the Strong.
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How in the sweet name of fuck to get up this area? Been running around this area for 30 minutes.
>>
Can I match my unique Sozasa Monji (no locked strong attack) to orange? If it's become obsolete I'll fucking die, been using this for ages.
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>>183966828
Sorry dood, but the only way to get orange gear is as a drop.
>>
bread

>>183967581

>>183967581

>>183967581
>>
>>183967418
Is there any advantage to it or can divine be just as good? That's absolutely crazy if all my gear is now obsolete after spending hours reforging for perfect stats. Upping level limit, gear levels, ect is one thing, needing to farm all new gear is a whole new level of shitty game design.
>>
>>183967659
Your sword is nobunagas one right? It wont be that much weaker because set pieces like that keep the original set bonus. Generic non set weapons and armor get a new randomized set bonus. The only real difference I've seen between set divine and ethereal pieces is that ethereal has a bit higher stats, so not too much a difference.
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>revenants can randomly ignore groundfire traps
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>>183966703
shoot the canons
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>toxic groundfire trap
>doesn't inflict toxic from one hit
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Are there more star effects for tonfa? So far seen tigers bite, and wild lions. Is there one for devestation?
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