/dadg/ - Darkest Dungeon General

>I won't waste my talents on this trivial errand.

>tfw your best helion dies to the swine prince because literally everyone on your team got stunned but her, had their turns before her but couldn't heal her while she was on death's door, then got hit once by "mark this one" wilbur
nevur 4git

What's a good team against Viscount? Would a couple of Aboms help?

Maybe something like HM / Abom / Abom / Occ?

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How the fuck do I kill the Baron?
If I pop a pod and he's in it, do I focus the rest of the pods, or him?

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DD2

What are we dropping into

>>183724227
My understanding is that it's a LONG crawl, and includes some tough ass mini bosses. Lots of bleed and blight to boot.

>>183724227
there are 3 minibosses spread around. They have an attack that does a billion damage, but the trinket nullifies the damage. Either have a MAA or HM guard whoever doesn't have one, or leave a flaggelant without it so they can just heal it out

Any recommended strats for Bloodmoon compared to regular runs or are the general principles about the same?

>>183724227
Getting fingered by even more priests and meeting the coolest-looking enemies in the game.

>>183724227
Prepare for a revelation

>>183724752
Depends, how many times have you beaten the game before? With CC?

>>183725308
Just beat my first run in a while with CC after having not played for a year, feel like doing the hard mode now.

>>183725437
Learning when to leave a run is far more important. Don't be afraid to ditch heroes if they're low level and in bad shape. Aim as hard as you can for trinkets that'll help you get through the DD and CC in the required time. Don't rush the DD or CC until you're ready, but don't dick around so much that you don't have time to make up for potential losses in failed DD runs. Don't waste heirlooms on stress heal buildings unless you really feel like you have extras. If you're tight on time you can finish the DD before going into the final courtyard missions. Make sure your parties are more well rounded. Really the biggest factors will be to get as much blood as possible so you don't lose people to the curse and to avoid hero deaths.

>>183725296
Don't torment him like that.

>>183724752
Do a lot of cove runs for the coral curio and perma-stalling shield fish, and avoid the champion weald like the plague. Try to make sure your first party to reach level five is the one you want to send to Vvulf if he shows up.

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Bring memeLeper to the HoD they said

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>>183726143

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Nigga got afflicted, refused tons of heals and got huge blight stack on him, had to nuke him first, that useless son of a bitch.

>>183726143
...hm

>>183725805
I'm just telling him the truth, i guess that will daze the mind

>>183725790
>>183725839
Good advice anons, I'll keep it in mind as I start and probably fail horribly

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Even with +12 accuracy the memeLeper can't hit enemies with 30+ dodge for shit.

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So how do you prevent THIS

>>183726629
as many riposte as you can manage

So I have 4 open slots in my roster, everybody is level 5-6 and I have't started CC. So what is the ultimate CC party?

>>183726629
He never submerges in positions 1 and 4, has to move to the middle 2 spots, so position control and stuns.

>>183727062
>He never submerges in positions 1 and 4, has to move to the middle 2 spots, so position control and stuns.

But he WOULD submerge on position 2-3 eventually.
And when he does, he get insane evasion / protection / resists.

As i was saying last thread ... I knew of Vvulfy and tried to level a m@a in time.... without him dying like the last one. Did not make it in time so should i trainmy m@a and let vvulf destroy something?

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Haven't had much time to work on this but I hit a bit of a road block with learning how to create set trinkets, namely the set bonus portion, and only just figured it out today. Anyway been playing with the new class a bit to get a feel for the balance, made changes where I felt it was necessary, mostly nerfs; also based on feedback from earlier.

I really wanted to keep the bleed/blight damage at 4 points a turn but once I got some +bleed/blight chance trinkets it became evident that the dot was too strong. I still don't know how to create skills that require a corpse to be used so Flesh from Bone remains a skill that can be used at any time. The skill, from my experience, never hits a living target, just misses, so there's that.

>>183726629
By GETTING OUTTA MAH SWAMP.

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>>183726629
Through the power of eldritch mysticism.

>>183726509
You gotta have it stacked like crazy. I had a Leper with +10 accuracy from a sun ring and an additional +10 from Eldritch Slayer. Even then sometimes he whiffed. Honestly it is just better to bring an Abomination.

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>>183727648
>By GETTING OUTTA MAH SWAMP.

GET FUCKED CROKEK

>>183727814
The leper only gets 10 less than normal. A leper with a sun ring has the same accuracy as a hellion or crusader without one

>>183728042
>The leper only gets 10 less than normal. A leper with a sun ring has the same accuracy as a hellion or crusader without one
But you always want to get additional accuracy on Hellion or Crusader with the hair pin or the same sun ring if you play with the light.
Going without it in champion dungeons is pretty dumb and you'd miss a lot.

>>183728184
fine then; a leper with a sun ring and a focus ring is the same as a crusader or hellion with a sun ring and a dismas head.

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>>183727813
> 222 dodge

> a fucking PLANT

>>183728558
Have you ever whacked a weed before?

>>183728306
Except he can't hit the back rows or stress heal.

>>183726629
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>>183728678
yeah but he's really cool

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>>183727513
how long does contagion last?

seems a bit awkward having to manage debuff and dot duration's to get a max damage blight

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>>183727813
>-120% dmg
This nigga just can't do anything wrong

>>183728814
Standard debuff length of 3 turns. I'd be lying if I said I used it much during testing. Right now I see it as a way to provide other classes the opportunity to bleed/blight high resist enemies without the need for trinkets, at the cost of the RK using his turn for it to happen. It's also a bit of a defensive skill with the -crit debuff.

If I were to change it I'm not sure what it would become. One suggestion before was to add a small blight dot but I wanted to avoid aoe dotting to help differentiate him from the PD and HM.

>>183729324
And I just now noticed the -crit debuff only has 100% chance instead of 140%. Gotta fix that.

>>183728814
>>183729324
>a max damage blight
i mean bite

mostly due to the CC bonus

he is probably going to be great with the flagellant since he applies bleed and debuff, maybe HWM, GR and BH ones too since they can also do both at once

can't wait till its done so i can make a rat keeper 3 bh party

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>>183729885
But yeah, I don't intend for him to be able to juggle his direct damage, dots, debuffs, riposte, and other utility all at once. I feel like every class should have at least 2 different playstyles, like GR lunge build or dagger build, or healing Vestal and battle Vestal. In this case there'd be one that focuses on Gnaw/A Thousand Bites and one that likes to spam Rat Armor, both using other skills like Mischief or Scatter to fill the other slots.

At this point I think I have most of the gameplay shit down. Unless I'm forgetting something I just need to do barks, which I don't look forward to, and art, which I can't do. As a side note I really, really want to figure out how to make Flesh from Bone work the way I want it to. That's actually the skill I first thought of that lead to this whole thing.

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Every single fucking room has been a fight and I had to kill 3 Flagbearers already.

Fucking this cunt prophet.

>>183728306
>fine then; a leper with a sun ring and a focus ring is the same as a crusader or hellion with a sun ring and a dismas head.

No?

His damage is pretty mediocre in champion dungeons. And he can only hit first 2 positions that is always some high prot enemies.

>>183730784
Unless they were paired with two Lancers then I don't see the problem. You're actually using the set setup as my A Team and they have zero issues with them: GR usually blows up the Bearer while the PD spreads blight on everything so they don't leave corpses.

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should I level up the meme arab's heal?

it increases the range of heal values but also increases the chance of causing bleed and the damage of bleed. that sounds terrible, especially for 0 bleed.

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>>183730969

Well so far so good, but they're sure cunts. Had one or two Lancers.

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>>183731047
>Sun Ring on a PD

>>183730891
I think he's pretty decent in the courtyard, where the enemies constantly shuffle around and they're all decently important targets. And even then, the targets that aren't important you can just kill with a hew while dealing damage to something else.

It's definitely a problem in the ruins or weald or whatever where you really really have to kill those back two skelly courtiers.


>>183730980
Heroe's resistances scale more. At level 0, the average dude has 30% bleed resistance. By level 6, the average dude will have 90% bleed resistance. That means at level 0, you'll have a 30% chance of a bleed, and at level 6, you'll have a 0% chance for a bleed

>>183731220

Gotta make sure these stuns aren't dodged. And I have nothing better for accuracy right now.

>>183732175
Honestly your team is very defensively oriented, you could easily forgo the stun spam for blight spam. GR can handle the high priority targets while the PD whittles high prot enemies down afterwards. MaA controls the battlefield with stuns and buffs/debuffs and Vestal keeps everyone topped off.

>>183732405

Yeah, I wanted to be safer than sorry. Managed to get through the boss without an affliction or a death, although Death Door is almost inevitable against the prophet.

Tunak Tunak Tun Occultist skin when?

>>183732175
I don't think I've ever had a PD stun dodged before in my life

>>183724227
Remember those weird trinkets you got after beating dd1? You need those to not get annihilated by Revelation, an attack used by the 4 minibosses in the dungeon. I recommend keeping them in your inventory however, and swapping them in when you think you are about to enter the boss room, so you're not crippling yourself by having only one useful trinket in the rest of the fights

>>183727513
Seems like a really cool concept, good luck anon!

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Say something nice about me

>>183734981
You make getting into the GR's pants easier.

Is Fated worth locking? Do we have numbers for this quirk?

>>183736341
if an attack misses it has a 10% chance to succeed instead according to the wiki

its good on leper because of his low base acc, though you'd probably do better to simply equip him with acc trinkets or lock in acc quirks

>>183736341
It's fairly useless.

Let's imagine you have a 80% chance to hit normally.

If you miss (20%), then there is a 10% chance for it to work. 0.2 times 0.1 = 0.02. It would give you a +2% chance to hit, which is the equivelant of 2 ACC.

This scales with hit chance, so if you were to have a 0% chance to hit, it would become a 10 ACC bonus, and if you had a 95% chance to hit, it would be a 0.5 ACC bonus.

It's not worth taking over actual ACC

is it me or does the collector and his collected highwaymen exclusively lifesteal/headhunt rank 3?

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DD1 was a freaking joke man.

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what did they mean by this

>>183738871
it means your party kills nazis

My game keeps crashing during the first loading screen. This was when I backed up local files from the cloud after playing in offline mode. What do?

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>>183733280
I've been thinking of this:
In my 225 hours played, I've NEVER seen a PD having her stun grenades missed or dodged; only resisted.

Which is better for tanking support MaA?

>Yell at all the opponents to make them slow and dumb
>Yell one of your allies to make them quick
>Yell at one of your allies to make them accurate

>>183739670
I prefer below since it can crit and does a bit of damage, and with the cc trinkets the debuff almost never get resisted.

Well my 41 week save file is fucking corrupted and crashes my game at the loading screen. Gonna start a new file in Radiant like a pussy. How should I go about a brand new run?

>>183739670
Assuming enemies dont have too much debuff resist, bellow works.
yelling at allies to make them more accurate is only really good for the shrieker fight as debuffs wear off on them very quickly

>>183740018
>How should I go about a brand new run?
Bloodmoon.

Is it dumb if I go in DD2 and bring a flagellant without a torch? Rapturous is a booster and he gets to use his OP skills.

>>183739670
Bellow.

>>183740257
>flag go rapturous
>2 revelations later flag have a heart attack and die

>>183740257
You can do that, but you still need to bring a guard for him.

>>183739670
bolster and command are party wide

early game bolster is better because dodging damage is the best way of avoiding stress, but Kamehameha enemy acc is so high that dodging gets to be ridiculously hard so bellow is better and kind of accomplishes the same goal as both bolster and command because it makes you do before the enemy and it reduces their dodge chance. doing damage also can finish off weaker foes and can crit which bolster/command cannot

>>183740257
>>183740449
Triple encourage is pretty good at making the revelation stress damage more reasonable. Combined with some -stress% trinkets or periodic stress healing between fights heart attacks shouldn't be a problem.

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Guide updated with reorganized trinket tiers, elaborating on how the tiers are classified, and added a protip list (might probably want to shift that and the not to do list into a separate guide)

Once again, contentious disagreement and hot opinions are welcome, and remind yourselves that a guide is a GENERAL GUIDELINE and not a strict set of rules you must follow to the letter.

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I'm glad people are finally starting to realize how great Bellow is.

>>183741013
It looks a bit ugly when you're using dwarvenaxe for every single thing, not just headers.

>>183740156
Should I enable the Crimson court area or nah?

>>183741019
it really comes down to bellow vs. bolster and people are finally realizing that dodge is shit

>>183741323
Yeah, fuck it, nothing bad could happen.

>>183741019
Isnt bellow an accuracy debuff?

What would make it better than a dodge buff, since they're basically doing the same thing.

>>183741279
I can't find the font used for quirks and skill info

>>183741531
Speed and dodge debuff.

>>183741013
Is Guardian's Shield really that bad?

>>183741531
Enemy Dodge and Speed debuff. That way your party acts first and has a higher chance to hit the enemy.

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>>183741019
Why would you take either of them when you're supposed to be taking Crush, Rampart, Defender, and Retribution every time?

>>183741531
These>>183741586 >>183741727 Bellow is amazing against mobs that have high speed and dodge like the Madmen and dog packs in the Weald because it takes away their only real threat

>>183741791
You're not using the MaA correctly.

>>183741013
25% damage boost vs bloodsuckers is high tier but 25% rings vs every other type is decent tier?
-8 dodge is hardly a debuff especially late game and especially the eldritch ring is amazing for DD1/2/3 where the dismas head bonus stress is really dangerous

>>183741791
You can drop Retribution during regular encounters. It is good for long fights which are often boss fights.

>>183741858
Irony

>>183727513
This is looking very nice. I'd say that for trinkets the treasured comb should probably either be a higher rarity or have its +20% heals changed to a -X% heals downside, otherwise it's too much bang for an uncommon.Chew sticks could probably also use a small downside of some kind, maybe lowering blight, debuff or something else chance. The rest look good imo. Good stuff m8, really looking forward to playing with this whenever it eventually comes out.

>>183741940
Crush and Retribution are situational. Crush for the end of fights to kill off something and Retribution for bosses. Rampart, Guard, and Bellow should always be equipped, they are his bread and butter abilities providing control of the battlefield through stuns, knockbacks, debuffs, and guarding.

>>183741019
Two questions. Can bellow miss high dodge targets, and, how high is the debuff chance?

Because if bother are true I would rather buff my team than deal with either issue.

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>>183741549
It's http://font.ubuntu.com/
Though honestly, it's generic enough that you can get away with replacing it for most other sans serif fonts and people won't know the difference.

>>183742170
110 accuracy with 140% debug base. his cc set among a bunch of other good perks gives him +25% debuff chance

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>>183742170
Both are true but are very rare. Debuff chance is 140% without trinkets, 165% with his best trinket, Old Unit Standard, and the ability itself has high accuracy so dodges are pretty rare. The only time Bolster is better is on bosses that take 3+ actions per turn since the debuff will wear off faster.

Just take my word for it, Bellow is the best of the shout skills and I use the MaA all the time. Give him the Old Unit Standard and Rampart Shield and you're set.

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>man at arms at death's door
>isisman casts heal
>0 bleed
>heal
>1
>heal
>crit 4

>>183741648
Its stats are pathetic and work only on rank 4 where only 3 of MaA's skills work, forcing him to be nothing but a guard/buffbot, where you could be using bellow or retribution to be much more useful.

>>183742107
I like Crush to take out a rank 3 guy.

>>183742580
>Heal
>45 Crit
You don't believe enough.

>>183742658
Fair enough, people sing the praise of a position 4 MaA at times with it but I never tried it myself.

>>183741013
>toy soldier over old unit standard

>>183742748
Crush is one of those things you only use rarely on MAA but just having consistent damage and hitting rank 3 is super nice

How do you guys build your jesters?
I really like them and was making mine with the finale's focused skills but were not seeing good results. For a critical based class his base damage seems a bit low in comparison with the others and I end up using highwayman or grave robber for critical damages

>>183743139
For me I can only do him in position 3 now with his buffs and bleed skills now since the Finale nerfs, maybe add Dirk Stab as a moveset attack option. One of his bleed skills definitely needs a change or be something completely different though because they're way too samey as is.

>>183743139
He kinda works in full light champion weald with battle ballad + inspiring tune and both bleed skills, since dots really fuck over virago. Even then he's a bit too fragile for my liking, though.

>>183740449
>flag goes rapturous
>revelation
>heart attack to deaths door
>exanguinate to full health
>heart attack to deaths door
>exanguinate to full health

Heart attacks don't instantly kill you if you have any health

Kill the pot first?

>>183744143
Never touch the pot.

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This is a good meme

>>183741013
wouldn't really call the resurrection collar "shit tier"

Maybe you could add like a red outline or little icon or whatever for particularly situational trinkets. Like the unholy slayer ring , or portrait, or stoneworker tools, or the mantra of fasting. Stuff that's really great or really useless

Also, I wouldn't put the tentacle idol into useless, seeing has it has no downsides. Useless should be trinkets that are actively detrimental.

>>183744143
Bring three Lepers, if she takes one you'll still have two left to burst down the pot.

>>183744735
I never bothered killing the pot, does killing it do anything or just waste time?

>>183745238
FOUR LEPER ROT SQUAD.

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>tfw forgot to upgrade one of my hero

But everything went better than expected

>>183744735
>>183745238
That fight was A LOT easier than I thought
Hound/Occ/Abom/MaA
MaA got thrown in the pot right away, transformed and just raged. Took 3 turns and I got the dazzling mirror out of the quest

>>183745319
Basically it's just worth it to let her steal whoever and burst her down. If she takes your healer even better because you can burst her with damage. Most of the time I've fought her she's down in 3-4 turns

Easiest to hardest of the normal 8 area bosses:

Crew
Hag
Siren
Swine King
Necromancer
Prophet
Pounder
Flesh

>>183745894

>Flesh
>Hard

LUL

For me it'd be :

Pounder
Flesh
Hag
Swine King
Siren
Crew
Prophet
Necromancer

But the easiest is piss easy, and the hardest is piss easy too.

>>183746059
>lul
what in gods name made you type that out

>>183746059
None of the bosses I think are even hard, the only reason I put the flesh hardest HD because there's no real way to cheese it without hounds harry

It's why I like the DLC, the Countess, Baron, and Viscount actually are pretty challenging

>>183746397
>Hound's Harry
Plague Grenade is better in every way.

>>183746397
>Countess
For 3/4 of the fight she literally did nothing but switch between her three phases for me.

>>183741013
The recovery stone could go somewhere, especially on a MAA

>>183745551
The hag is very easy as long as you dont take a team that gets fucked up. She has very little health. Just make sure you can deal with shuffles.

>>183746397
Hound's harry got nerfed and plague grenade was equally as good anyway.

>>183746613
That happened to me at the end; I assumed it was a bug.

>>183746613
Same for me. It seems like she's actually decently challenging when she doesn't too so I was kinda disappointed. RH might need to fix that up a little since it leads to such differing experiences.

Is the Courtyard harder than the darkest dungeon?

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>>183746613
she stunned my Vestal twice while I had a hero on DD in the same fight, but I still fucked her up with bleed team
>Open Vein, Punish, Hounds Rush every turn, stack 20+ bleed when she has 4 turns

>>183747127
The Courtyard mobs are probably on average the most dangerous and annoying mobs in the game.
Everything does stress damage, Chevalier's hit hard and stun/bleed so crits are super annoying, and you have increased stress in the CC

>>183747529
Meh. I've been using Flag+Jester+Man at Arms recently, bleeds make quick work of most of them and Chevaliers take tons of free damage with Riposte.

That may be just that particular party being well suited for Courtyard mobs but save for Gatekeeper's Elusive Exit, I don't find them too difficult to deal with.

I'd still give the edge to Darkest Dungeon mobs.

Is anyone familiar with the software used to make models/animations?

>>183748063
Do you mean in general or for this game specifically?

Should I even bother getting the DLC? I've only heard bad things.

>>183748215
Apologies if I wasn't overly specific, I meant this game.

>need to make changes to some trinkets I made
>make said changes
>make sure to run localization batch
>go back in game
>changes never took effect
>fiddle with it
>still nothing
>delete one of the trinkets outright
>it's still in game and fully functional
The fuck is going on?

>>183748835
The game was made using a program called "Spine Professional" that costs about $300. There is a free version, but it does not allow you to import skeletons to work with and unfortunately there aren't any torrents of it.
Also, the game has literally no models in it at all. It's just stretching and bending of pngs to make it look like models.

>>183748529

I mean I haven't played for too long, major complain would be how quickly the curse seems to spread. Also the Fanatic is a pain in the ass. Bloodsuckers popping up everywhere can feel a bit bad sometimes.

With that said, it's a cool bit of content, Flag is great and lots of fun and the trinkets are pretty cool. If you've enjoyed the base game, I think odds are you'll enjoy the DLC.

>>183749014

Thanks for the info! Was trying to figure out how to create my own character designs and such, figured it'd be a fun challenge after tweaking some skills here and there.

B E G O N E
F I E N D

>>183723929
Pop all to start healing and face horde of crits
or
Just aim him and hope to survive

When I pop him at first turn, I would ignore him and get rid of the other pod and its inhabitant one by one.

>>183723929
If I need healing

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That was a BIG map

Good party for the final boss? Dismas and Reynauld included ofc.

>>183749476

If you want to make a new class, you don't need such program. You just need to figure out the limitations of the characters' skeletons, especially for the walk, idle and combat stances, but for the skill "animations" themselves, you can pretty much make anything as long as it fits the screen since all of them are just static pictures being moved around.

Are banish from white cell stalks and mutiny from the sunken crew bugged monster abilities or is it just me?
I have never seen them not resisted.

>>183746348
Probably a negative quirk

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>>183749014
>It's just stretching and bending of pngs to make it look like models.
>"Spine Professional"

>$300

"We don't want anyone to mod our shit, ever"

>>183753047
Bounte Hunta.

>>183753047
Make sure your backliners can deal with being shuffled to the front

Blindfire / Side arm is so much better now that they made it so it can't target corpses.

It makes the Arbalest super usable on bosses that shuffle.

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wtf is this

>>183754562

>>183754562

Only for when you want to make custom animations.

Everything in the game, from making new monsters to new areas is moddable since a lot of the files are compiled in easily editable json files. It's just that, as you've noticed, the modding community for DD is as big as say Skyim.

>>183755603
its for quest

>Do all three DD without losing a single hero and only getting a Flagellant afflicted
>Lose 1 going to the Swine God
>Another gets killed by Willbur
>Have to retreat and lose Ancestor's Pen

Fuck. Well here goes two of my free slot heroes.

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Hopefully my financial woes are over...for now.

Also our Antiquarian got herself a nice new toy. She was Fearful pretty much the whole time, which made things pretty fun.

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>>183756450

>Having less than 1 million gold

Dishonoring your Ancestor.

>>183756736
Please sir, it's only my first playthrough.

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Easiest boss ever

>tfw playing this game makes me want to reread Austen and Dickens and maybe some of Hawthorne's darker stuff

Lovecraft is a fucking hack and I never liked him, fight me you cthulu-fellating neckbeards. Y'all probably only know about Lovecraft from some source other than the books anyway since he's the hot new nerd meme

>>183742107
There is little situational about crush. Killing enemies outright especially rank 3 ones is better than stunning them though you should still take rampart. Bolster is better than bellow most of the time because it carries on between fights. If set up correctly you can have your team buffed up before most fights even start.

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>Do courtyards first quest thinking it was just going to be some introductory garbage to give you an idea of how it works
>Take some people that I need to level thinking it wouldn't be that hard
>Making it through the dungeon ok, nothing too bad
>Enter fight room
>Fucking Crocodilian
>Have to abandon the fight, and then the quest only 4 rounds into the fight

fuck the courtyard

>>183757235
define hack

my biggest problem with lovecraft personally is the "you can't even hope to win" aspect, where every victory is trifling and just against cultists or whatever and in the end doesn't matter because we all die to the doom monster anyways

i understand some people like that aspect and it's very befitting of his work but to me it's boring to have the outcome be ultimately unaffected whatsoever by the protagonists efforts

what happens after I kill the baron? This infestation thing is getting irritating.

>>183758396
You think this is bad? Wait to see what happens next. I did the first mission of the Crimson Court just because I wanted to kick out those mosquitoes from the town. I wish I never did that.

>>183758748
Everyone is cured instantly and the infestation resets.

>>183758516

To be fair, he pretty much the invented cosmic horror genre, so it was a new fad back in the 20s and 30s. Getting mad about Lovecraft's unwinnable cosmic horror stories is like getting mad about Tolkien's settings for being too high fantasy.

>>183757235

>new

Only if you visit /v/ after the whole memeborne not being on PC shitstorm.

Lovecraft has always been a media staple.

>>183755603
use it to burn the hives.

>>183755841
>the modding community for DD is as big as say Skyim.

> skyrim modding community

on second thought it's probably a good thing people can't make new animations for darkest dungeon.

Vest or Occ for heals in DD2? I imagine I need a stress slave as well? Is Crusader a necessity here?

>Lost 4 heroes over 2 runs to the Swine God

Wtf I didn't expect the Champion version so be that much harder compared to the Veteran one.

>>183759529
Pull and Mark are pretty useful in the Templar fights, so I say go with Occultist.

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>>183759529

That was my easy mode party.

Flagellant without the Torch cause if he gets his once (cause of speed) it's not a big deal, he can use his OP skills and his affliction is a bonus. Easy to keep everybody topped off too. And you can easily destress him at camp with his camp skills.

>>183759449

I meant, it isn't as big.

Even if we were able to make new animations, the amount of quality modders are so few that you'd barely see anyone taking advantage of it anyway.

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>>183723039
now that time has passed, how much artwork is there of the vamps? those were some rad designs

>>183760213
Speaking of which, has that one anon made any progress on the bloodsucker hero skins for ones that get afflicted with the crimson curse? That shit was rad

>>183759965
Could I replace Musketeer with HWM and use ripostes? That doesn't look like too much damage there, but I'm not familiar with Musketeer.

>>183760517
Musketeer is just a reskinned arbalest

>>183760517

It,S more than enough damage, honestly Flagellant is ridiculous and his bleeds do 6 damage a pip. 9 damage a pip if you use the below 50% skill. Templars get 2 turns so you get at least 12 damage + the damage the Flagellant does with Punish which is quite good by itself every turn.

Why am I just now realizing that the leper is based on Guts from Berserk? They're both huge, tough guys with painful stories and they both swing around a crude, impractical sword. A leper trinket is even called Berserk Mask.

>>183760794
What trinks should I use on Flag?

>>183761157

The +4 Speed under 50% HP one of course

Then anything that gives damage, maybe a +Bleed chance if you want to be sure the bleeds stick but the templars don't have that much bleed resist.

>>183761142

No, not really. He's based on King Baldwin, the Leper King of Jerusalem.

>>183759965
>>183759529
Just beat DD2 with Vestal/PD/MAA/Hellion. It works great in theory but it took me a little while to figure it out and I screwed up the implementation.

If you stun the templars, they will always try to use revelation for their only remaining move. So a PD with a stun trinkets is a really handy thing to have. Let the MAA guard her and activate retribution, and the templar fights are pretty easy.

Unfortunately I screwed up and let the PD get hit by revelation a couple of times, and everyone started breaking after that. My Hellion rolled Focused and saved the day, but I had to cheese a couple of fights for heals.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma-WJUidpRU]

BEST MUSIC

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>>183761419
You can be two things.

King Baldwin wasn't a fighter.

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>>183761610
>it's a dramatic version of the hub music

>>183761725

True, but Guts didnt invent the big ass sword guy.

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>it's a 'your guy dies from a tick of blight before you can do anything' episode

i wish you could use antivenom and bandages on other heroes

>>183763103

also fuck the swine skiver why can he crit my whole three back rows for like 25 and blight them all at the same time

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>>183763103
>it's a Flagellant dies on his first Death's Door check episode

>Not running DD2 with Antiquarian Vestal Crusader and Leper

>>183763270
It's a martyr's seal Flagellant dies on his first death's door check episode

>>183763103
>It's a bone commander banner lord and bone archer episode
>Its a spit to roast fun time episode

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>>183764476
Antiquarian on DD2 is legitimately and unironically good.

>>183764791
It really is.

>>183764675
>it's a
>Cripple Them
>Crit
>Crit Blight
>Crit Blight
>episode

I have literally never seen a character being moved and NOT stunned.

It's like these two checks are based on the same roll.

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>decide to make custom vampire skins to make the curse a little more significant just for the hell of it
>Oh bother my hound master got it. Well how hard can one more sprite be
>two days later still working on all the attack sprites because the dog needs to be completely redrawn in almost every single one.

Jesus christ never again.

>>183766435
You need to make HM's fangs way smaller. They look ridiculous right now.

>>183745894
>pounder
>second hardest
consider suicide

>>183745894
>Necro
>hard
Just get a hard hitting frontliner to oneshot his adds.

>>183764791
How though? As in ultimate reposte team good?

aunt/aunt/hwm/maa?

Doing my second playthrough, now with CC. Holy shit flaggelant makes this game an absolute joke. He's gonna be nerfed, right?

>>183766435
Anon what all do you have so far, and are you gonna upload these? This shit's nice

>>183761610
>by far the best soundtrack in the game
>it only plays during a short fight in a rare one time mission

>>183766717
Protect Me is an extremely good prot buff, in a pinch she can blight and heal off death's door. There are only 3 trinkets, and protect me provides versatility as to who can take more hits and stress, not burdening all the damage and stress onto one character. Not to mention the antiquarian has a very cheap camping skill that bolsters the resist of one of the frontliners. The antiquarian can even reach a modest 30% prot (or even 40% with hard skinned) with her unique trinket and more importantly, hits a much higher speed than the man at arms, the one I had ended up with 11 meaning there was 0 risk for revelation on her.

The Leper has access to one of the best stress heals in the game, doubling up as a huge prot buff giving him 70% prot with protect me, and capping it off with the vestal's prayer. Not to mention the leper also has an extremely potent self heal as well, with any kind of move resist he will be near unshakable. Not to mention the fact he can just mow through enemy lines, especially if you dont opt for any kind of move resist. Hell Banish only has a 10% chance of moving you paired with the antiquarian buff.

The Crusader has a very potent stress heal that can double as a torch if needed, and can also take characters off of death door. His damage is decent, and much like the leper has a very powerful prot buff, which is also capped with the vestal's prayer.

In my opinion it is probably one of the most powerful defensive parties in the entire game that I have ever used. I left with less stress in the darkest dungeon than I arrived with, thanks to the strong camping abilities and great stress heals and was never even close to death's door, even the fairly unguarded vestal was perfectly ok. You might have a worse time than I have, but it was probably the least stressful any dungeon has ever been for me, and this was fucking darkest dungeon 2

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oh hey, a custom class mod with new animations that doesn't look like ass.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1089257023

>>183768016
I also forgot to mention the dodge buff the antiquarian has, in case you want to make the party even more tanky

>>183768424
looks good, I'm gonna try it out

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what does each mission symbol means?

>>183769147
>Already have access to the shrieker

JUST

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>>183765197
I've seen it happen before. It's definitely not the same roll.

>tfw you usually cherry-tap bosses until you can set up that perfect marked+crit finisher from your BH just because it's so satisfying

>>183769147
the goal, the ring around the symbol is the length

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Hmm....Bolbec, you might just be onto something there.

>>183769550
What about the gray and silver border?
And the mission without spikes

>>183770189
Missionss without spikes are short, missions with three spikes are medium, and missions with five spikes are long.

Gray indicates it's a normal mission, gold indicates it's a special/boss mission.

>>183770189
the color is the difficulty, no spikes = short

>First time playing the game
>Reynauld gets focused by stress attacks, goes masochistic and kills himself on the third week in the ruins
>First boss I unlock is the hag, I go in blind for everything so she partywiped me because I brought a terrible party for it
>Scared of doing bosses for a while so I do short missions with my best heroes to upgrade their level
>Reach level 3, they refuse to do non-veteran missions now
>Constantly on the brink of bankruptcy
>The cove is fucking deadly and the warrens fucking expensive with all the diseases
>Veteran missions are much harder than apprentice missions
>Quirks are fucking expensive to heal so they keep accumulating and becoming fixed
>Eventually kill Hag, Necro, Prophet and 8 pounder
>Swine prince partywipes me again fucking Wilbur reee

And I'm still enjoying all of this, it's fun. I really wish my veteran heroes could still do apprentice quests though.

>>183770701

yeah i think playing through the game for the first time blind is a good (but stressful) experience

once you beat the game once i kind of feel the game feels a bit too easy and predictable since you already know all the good party comps for areas and bosses, although the Champion level dungeons can still fuck you over with how powerful the enemies are

>>183770701
>started few days ago
>first boss mission
>somethig apprentice
>halfway the mission a boss appears
>"this is easy"
>end up 90 stress with each hero by this far
>it wasnt the boss
>keep going
>im still new so dont know how bad stress is
>reach the boss
>get violated by my own stress

>next day
>farm new characters all day
>1 last mission before going to bed
>equip all good stuff
>upgrades
>skills
>2nd boss try
>curio in the first passage
>decide to try a random item
>a boss-like monster appear
>the background goes all crazy shit
>i already know its all over but have to keep going
>die

>>183771034
Blind definitely seems like the way to go, even if it took me 70 hours to beat the game I feel like I gained something. I feel bad for referencing the wikia for curios after ive figured most out since I never wrote down solutions for all of them, but I liked trying to prepare for the darkest dungeon missions not knowing what to expect

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>>183771131
You just got Shambled, son.

>>183771354

going into the DD blind was a nightmare because I never knew what to expect

my first run was a complete disaster because of the Shambler and my team had no shufflers

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Going on a blind run here, and since that's the current thread of conversation I'll weigh in...

I've got a handful of heroes to level 6 but anytime I've run them on champion missions, they get melted hard - particularly painful was a total party wipe on Vvulf.

It makes me feel like once they get to level 6 they're too good to use, or I'll end up wasting them since you also have to know the ins and outs of trinkets to maximise their effectiveness, and I'm not there yet.

So far I haven't peeked at optimal gear/party comps Darkest Dungeon spoilers (though from accidentally reading them I know that two people will irrecoverably die) but I'm wondering if I ought to.

>my face anytime I consider a champion-level boss dungeon or, god forbid, the darkest dungeon itself

Also for what it's worth I'm saving the DLC for after I beat the base game, but I'm definitely interested in it.

>>183771516
>TFW brought two lepers against something called "The Shuffler"
I really should have thought things through.

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>first time I've seen someone lunge at a Shambler altar based on a quirk
>brief heart attack before remembering that you need to stick a torch in

Is an "only 4 heroes in the roster" run something feasible?

>>183771771
Yes.

>>183771771
If you can build a party that is useful in every situation, sure. But the second anyone dies you're royally fucked.

>>183771567
As a general rule for trinkets on champion difficulty, you want things that
>give +ACC bonuses
>give +stun chance
>increase healing on vestals
Also, stay the fuck away from the champion weald until you know what you're doing.

>>183771771
I'm pretty sure it is on radiant and darkest, but you have to tinker with the 'never again' rules.

>>183771771

4 doggomans is pretty legit

It used to be ridiculous before he was heavily nerfed, but it's still really good

>>183771890
PD/Occ/Houndmaster/Hellion works everywhere.

So what Quirks do you guys tend to stack? I'm figuring Slayer quirks are better than Hater due to dodge getting silly later on.

>>183771971
>stay the fuck away from the champion weald until you know what you're doing.
Weald and Cove seem to be much more cruel than Ruins and Warrens in my experience, so yeah. I'm most terrified of the Cove.

>sleeping soundly
>PTSD flashback to the words "Arterial Pinch"
>wake up drenched in cold sweat

>>183772067
Back Tracker + Nymphomaniac + Stress faster, automarically God-tier heroes.

>>183772242
>Arterial Pinch
>Bad compared to CRIT VOMIT GOOD JOB YOU NOW HAVE AIDS AND 50 STRESS

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>>183772372
>cute little pig who gets so excited to see you that he throws up on you
>worse than Fiddler Onna Barrel

>>183772242
The Cove is the easiest and most rewarding dungeon by far when you get the hang of it, or even just start bringing Plague Doctors to it.
>Battlefield Medicine or even just bandages hard-counter Arterial Pinch
>stuns counter x4 grouper parties, violin skeletons, and shield fish
>shield fish never call reinforcements, meaning you can stall on them forever to fully-heal and stress-heal your party
>coral curio cures negative quirks when interacted with

>>183772535
>Fiddler doesnt give you aids every time you fight him
>Fiddler isnt even a common enemy
>Not all that difficult to kill either

I once got 6 diseases in a short champion warren's dungeon not counting the 50 cases of aids you get every time you complete a champion mission . It was the first time I found out that diseases could overwrite other diseases. Those little pieces of shit always manage to dodge 4 attacks in a row and get a vomit off, and it always crits, and always gives you a disease, and maybe even blight.

Every. Fucking. Time

I just tried to do my first champion mission
Jesus Fuck I ended it after the second fight, huge difficulty spike
Any tips?

>>183772863
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

Also read the thread, there's a discussion more or less about this happening within the last doze posts.

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>>183772535
The dumb music ghost is the easiest of the champion-exclusive enemies. You get plenty of turns to wail on him before he uses his signature attack if you're stunning properly. Even if he does get it off, you can completely negate it by bringing laudanum. If you somehow still got stressed even after all of that, you can just go back to 0 again by abusing a pelagic champion for stress-heals.

>>183772863
Make sure all your heroes are fully upgraded. Bring +ACC trinkets for damage-dealers, +stun trinkets for stunners, and +heal trinkets if you're packing a vestal.

So I killed the fanatic on apprentice. Does that mean he'll only spawn on Veteran or higher if I bring enough vampires?

>>183773308
No, but I'm pretty sure there's a cooldown before he'll appear again.

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>>183766435
Looking great! We believe in you, Anon.

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>>183770285
>240 hours played
>never noticed this

Going to kill Swine Prince with Arbalest, Vestal, Highwayman and Crusader. Arbalest for flare, would take Leper instead of Highwayman but I don't have one at the time with decent level. Will that team work?

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>>183769697
>Heroes on top of things

>>183772863
stick to the cove

>>183773867
You could take 4 crusaders and beat Swine Prince, arbalest completely breaks the fight so you'll be fine.

>>183773867
Make sure you kill the little pig before the big one so he stops marking your characters, making the fight a lot easier.

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>>183771131

>>183772863
>>183773908
>while using a PD

>>183773961
Going to give it a try then.

>>183773996
Thanks Wilbur.

>>183773996
Someone post the "end this one" image of wilbur

>>183774584
>Thanks Wilbur

I wonder how Wilbur feels knowing that in supporting the Swine Prince he's actually hurting him, since he'd be better off dead to increase SP's chances.

AJ's Kraken mod is pretty neat. It adds some unholy enemies so that you can bring the sader to the Cove too.

The riposting snails are bullshit tho

What are the best mods for this game that change stuff other than add heroes and trinkets? Such as rebalancing existing heroes, adding new enemies, new areas, changing game mechanics, new curios, making the game easier or more merciless, etc.

Any art-anons here? Looking for volunteers for a trinket mod I'm making.

>>183775215

Just check the highest rated mods in the Workshop and Nexus. They're highly rated for a reason.

>>183775215
Shilling mein mods

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1086975254

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1088439482

Both of these mods are directly inspired by/plagiarizing PBD mechanics.

>>183775520
even if you shit at art spend long enough you'll get it

>>183772262
I can now run Long Champion Weald runs thanks to this trick!

A HIDEOUS MUTATION!

>>183774990
That kraken looks disgusting, I like it

>>183776008
[Rampart]

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>Finished the Baron quest in one go
Wew, that was intense.

>>183777239
>crusader in 3rd slot
oh shit nigga what are you doing?

>>183777343
He got shuffled these by the Lash.

What are the best trinkets to run on an Occultist? I've been making pretty good use of Cursed Incense + Ancestor's Scroll, but I'm sure there's something better out there.

>>183778778
I've been rocking Ancestor's Pistol + Vial of Sand, the loss of junia's head isn't a massive deal since he's either full-healing or critting for 4 anyway, and that trinket combo makes things like Vulnerability Hex/Pulling super high-dodge enemies like a Virago extremely reliable, which I feel is more important than reliable heals, sort of like stunning over healing as a vestal.

>>183778778
>>183779028
> Not going frontline Occultist.
> Not going the Spooky Cauldron + Dodge Trinkets such as Sun Cloak or Wilburs Flag, or alternatively Ancestor's Candle.
> Not acting as a pseudo tank with damage debuffs and self heals.
It's pretty good but might just be my lucl, I've had this one Occultist with combat focused quirks and had him run through DD1 and Swine God and still make it out alive.
The guy's a fucking champion, wish I had a screenshot of him.

How do I fight the collector properly? I usually get him low by stunning him before he can do anything and then he just keeps chain respawning minions until I wear out.

>>183779654
>Stun him turn 1
>Stun him turn 2
>Win

>>183779654
If you're really terrified of le head man then make sure you always have guy that can destroy the backline, and people that can stun the first 3 positions. Generally you want to kill highwaymen while stunning vestals/men at arms, and stunning highwaymen that you can't kill immediately. With a Vestal/MaA up you only have to spend resources killing 1 HWM at most, and you can dump the rest of your damage into the Collector.

>>183774990

Skullugs aren't that bad, you can resist their shit more often than not

Their stress attack is definitely worrying tho

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Has anyone tried the falconer mod out yet?

>>183775520
I'm the anon that said that was gonna make it. Sorry, things happened at work and I'm in deep shit these days. I'm unable to draw anythig these days and I don't know when will I be able to do it.
Sorry, I'll try to do it whenever I have time to also practise trinket drawing but I can't give anny date or time.

>>183780795
Just downloaded it, the comic look good tbqh

>>183780795
it's pretty cool, one of the very few mods I like

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>On bloodmoon
>Knocking out all the DD missions one after another
>Meticulously going through the supplies i'll need for DD3
>AKA buying fucking everything
>Enter the dungeon with a cursed hellion
>Notice I didn't bring any blood

>>183780819
nah is fine. Just looking for more volunteers. Keep at it anon.

>Abom is allowed in the church
How does that work? Why would they him in?

>>183782373

They probably don't know?

You should also ask why they'd allow the Occultist in as well. Would be weird if the others are praying normally and he's going "CTHULHU FTAGHN"

>>183781229
My veins are practically hollow!

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Wew, veteran is pretty comfy!
Just ran through a long cove without any dedicated healers (only PD/jew) and I don't think I had a hero below 50% hp?

>>183776008
UNNATURAL

>>183782373
autist probably forgot that part when demanding he couldn't party with church heroes

>>183776008
Submerge

>shrieker took my trinkets for the first time
What happens if I don't fight it and go for another mission?
Will his event fight still be there after that?

>>183783819
It'll still be there, just know the fight is pretty easy to "cheese" if you're just looking to survive the encounter

>>183782956

Veteran is arguably the most balanced level in the game right now. Enemies aren't health sponges with bullshit acc and dodge but they arent pushovers either.

>>183783819
mission never goes away

>looking up sound banks for new class mod
>listen to Shambler's audio files

Jesus christ, how terrifying. Red Hook really outdid themselves with some of the monster soundbits.

>>183785094
got a link? someone uploaded the madman sounds in an earlier thread

>>183783819
you just need to survive 4 turns, then it flies away. bonus jew gold if you destroy the nest. don't bother killing the bird, its dodge is insane

>>183786543
killing the birb also doesn't give you anything just FYI, and you don't get the loot from killing the nest like how you need to kill the prophet's pews to get loot before killing him

>>183787891
does it stop future quests?

>>183783098
AND ABHORRENT

>>183788197
no

>>183787891
I don't know why people care about killing the pews. They don't give that much money.

>>183788581
Does the Prophet flip out if you smash all his pews?

>>183788802
Not really, it's safe to kill them if you can survive the prolonged fight.
The old fuck probably doesn't realize it because he's fucking blind LMAO

>>183786000

Here

https://mega.nz/#!Lo4x2BTL!lbCvCzt385kwPPTXQMRS_vTB8GeVf4JZ5_DDlRnjzt4

A lot of the soundbits are pretty startling, but you never hear them fully because they're drowned by the bgm and other sound effects in-game.

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>>183784068
I was just a little fidgety about not bringing a healer, after running champ for the last 10 weeks. But with good trinkets and tactical operators making the right decisions (STUNSTUNSTU...) it wasn't too much of a problem.

I walked away with 40k+ and close to 100 heirlooms.

Whats are good party for champion warrens? I would like to actually be able to get to the swine god

The Shrieker quest always spawns once you lost 8 trinkets, right? If so, would I be able to force it to trigger by sending a group of newbies with shit tier trinkets to die or something? Asking because I lost an Occultist with two really good trinkets and had to retreat or else I would've wiped.

>>183790356
>The Shrieker quest always spawns once you lost 8 trinkets, right?
No, it will not.

>>183789751
How did you dump them?
Been wondering for a while now.

Best trinkets for crusader?

Rocking Ancestors Candle and Swordsmans Crest

any simple draw request?

>>183790530

I unpacked the .bank file using an extractor. Those scribbles at the end of the file name are what you're gonna need to add sounds to your new class.

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>>183738749
>one potentially dead hero
>freaking joke
>afflicted as well

https://a.pomf.cat/zbwpaa.webm

>>183790914
I assume you are using FSB extractor?
Btw, I'm just a random anon, not the one that was looking to add sounds to class mods.

>>183791337

Yes, that's the one.

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>>183788802
You literally get less from a pew than a not-even-full gold stack.

>why

>>183790793
people laughing at Leeper because Jester drew a moustache on his mask but he doesn''t realize it and he's like "what?"

>>183790565
Ring of repick

>>183789510
lol

Well the Prophet has been consistently one of the easier bosses.

The CC bosses like the Fanatic and the gator have been the only ones which really fuck me over.

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Swine Skiver and Butcher are cute!

CUTE!

>>183792910
waiting for 100% anime reskin for DD

>tfw every Antiquarian I ever had died on their 1st or second mission.

I suck at handling that fragile person.

>>183792910
someone should do a mod to turn the abomination transformation into a swine skiver looking abomination

>>183794053
>use Protect Me!
>win

>>183794083
I want to actually play as Swinefolk.

>>183794119
>Riposte MaA
>PROTECT ME
>thwackthwackthwack

Also her blight is underrated.

>>183794649
Newfag here, what is riposte?