/stsg/ - Starsector General

Dong when?

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>>183663835
second for ramming speed

I got a problem with running Starsector, downloaded the latest version and copy/pasted the mods in the OP into the mod folder, now I get an error " fatal error: JSONS.file "targetplanet" could not be found, what is this and how do I fix it?

Following starsector since 0.65
And I never post but from now on I will do my job to bump....I follow this thread everyday and it's disappointing to see it die ; (

>>183668782
what's your favorite ship, anon?
My favorite would have to be either the Hammerhead or the Hacksaw from Neutrino fitted with quadruple Darkmatter beam cannons.

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Nevermore sexiest ship. Not sure about the rest of the fleet makeup. The frigates are all good pursuit, but I'm thinking to fixing the destroyer makeup. ANy ideas?

>>183669252
Enforcers with reapers? Pretty durable.

>>183668902
It's hard to say, I am hardcore tri jew lover even with all the mods installed, but favourite ship would probably maelstrom or oandemonium they just so sexy and useful

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>>183668902
Sexy.

>>183670815
Can you link to the forum thread with all those sprites to use?

>>183671190
Those are just Blackrock Drive Yard ships though aren't they?

bumper bumping
I'll try and be more productive when I get to my comouth and have some images to attach...now it's just a phone ; (

>>183671491
That's a one off, it's not actually in brdy
I always thought it would make a great IBB since brdy doesn't have one for such a well known faction

>>183671574
>>183670815
What's the IBB? Something to do with bounties?

>>183673050
>>183671574
Oh, it's a boss fight for a unique ship like a modded Nevermore

>>183674214
>ICE update never
>dong/exi update never ever

I just want to run around with a salvaged fleet of mishmashed tech, cherishing every time i scavenge something good and treat it like a ace-in-the-hole superweapon of sorts

Riddle me this:
IBB composed of a single ship.
A Modified Legion Battlecarrier.
That is loaded with 4 flights of Moras
That in turn are filled with 3 wings of Drovers each
That in turn have two flight of whatever fighter-sized carrier there is
That in turn have various fighter wings, some fighters, some bombers, some something else

>>183675885
pawns are the frigate sized carriers

Are frigates a viable choice lategame ? Frigates in my fleets usually gets the majority of kills in the early to mid-game due to the fact that they actually are fast enough to catch and keep enemy ships within weapon range. However once you enter the capital ship phase they seem to decline in effectiveness pretty sharply, should you ignore frigates completely and just stick to destroyers as escorts instead ?

>>183665804
never ever

>>183663835
So what happened to the NGO mod? Will it move here? Did anyone on the forums notice? Has anyone called the mods on how retarded "nazi propaganda" sounds?

>>183680064
Frigates ensure you don't get flanked, capture nodes and harass other ships

>>183680064
>Buy lashers in bulk
>Slap SO, IJ, and arm to taste
>Suddenly you have an extremely quick response force for that one carrier that's inevitably going to wander off into a pack of wolves
>Also to harass enemy ships who wander off, or make a massive flank to end up at the rear of the enemy and force fights without them being able to safely fall back
>They're lashers, who gives a shit if you lose two or three, recover them and buy more in bulk
>Even if you don't need them you don't have to deploy them

>>183687114
>IJ
UI
How did I fuck that one up

>>183668902
Wall Class Drone. Edited a few files to make it useable by players and tweaked it so it can actually focus fire power more easily via turn rate.

Its like a broadside ship but the broad side is faces towards you all the time.

>>183686062
>Will it move here?
Probably
>Did anyone on the forums notice?
Either they are the one that bitched about it or are keeping hush-hush to avoid getting banned/doxed, that or there is a BIG PM fight going on, away from the public
>Has anyone called the mods on how retarded "nazi propaganda" sounds?
DING DONG BANNU ALL THE EBIL NAZIS FROM 4CHAN

>>183692396
>Either they are the one that bitched about it

It's pretty obvious that's what happened.

Someone should email alex and explain the situation to him. He will probably force NGO to be allowed again.

>>183692396
I mean, the whole idea of dictating what mods can and can't do is idiotic. If they pull this of one of dark revenant's mods they'll probably see the whole community just up and leave.

Someone should make a mod where you can rape station characters and see what the staff does

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>>183668902
I like Dominator-chan, she's kawaii desu ne. She's got curves in all the right places and is T H I C C, deezam GirL.
If we're talking about mods then Versant is where it's at. She's a superfrigate, quick even without SO and her main weapons pack a punch, good as a player ship. Only problem is she's compensated dating, she'll only put out if you pay.

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>>183692396
>Either they are the one that bitched about
This is what happens on any forum. People want to be content gate keepers, so they become mods. Said mods are part of a small circle-jerk click on the forums and if content gets put out that the click dislikes, instant ban.

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>>183673050
I wish it was but it's not in ibb.....yet!

>>183675043
I loved ice, it's so different with their phase mechanics I really wish it would update...or someone picks it up ; (

It's good to know ding and exi will eventually get updated though, I can never have too many mods!

Oh shit gotta bump

Sheerest bump time?

BRING ICE BACK!

https://github.com/Backgammon-/ICE
Go and make us proud /stsg/

>>183702771
P.s. i'd suggest to use Neutrino or other mods with openly sourced code to shamelessly copy-paste stuff from to at least get the basics done

>>183702771
If I could I would have taken like 10 mods by now ; (
But sadly I'm a caveman when it comes to programming

>>183704356
There is a semi-official SS discord, prolly you can ask there for help.
Also, copy stuff from Neutrino, the campaign level stuff (blaneds, markets, etc) should be working in there so you could probably alter two things and transfer it over piecemeal.

For stuff like the special scripts i'd say to alter everything to use vanilla stuff and comment/remove the "special" mod stuff (the fusor scripts for example), compile, test if it works, add something in, recompile, see if it works and if it doesn't try to understand what made the game REEE at you

So what in NGO is "nazi" exactly?
The fact that the ships are Hugo Boss black?

>>183709240
German naming motif
That's pretty much it I think

>>183695695
someone is taking over ICE, probably gonna be a while before it's updated though.
>>183709240
the mod is an idealized national socialist faction instead of an evil caricature. I don't see a problem with it because neither the modder or the mod itself have expressed any hatred on the forums.

>>183709240
the fluff is basically "glorious not-national socialism" with some (probably) nazi era military lingo. that's about it.

In fact, i'd say nobody would have cared if Anhe's attitude didn't passively agressively scream "I love nazis"

I'm certain that if someone contacts Alex and tells him what happened, he will force the mods to restore the thread.

If Anhe backs off, I'll just download both versions and re add the original descriptions to the new one. Fuck that noise, every faction is evil as fuck, diable has slave labour, the imperium has a prison planet, the hegemony has little to no civil liberties, the corps have no morals, the path is al-qaida

>>183710916
>every faction is evil as fuck
I thought ORA and SRA were pretty nice

>>183711738
Arguably, Gilead is one of the most peaceful planets around, since the devout like to live in high tech subsistance farming

I haven't read much on the ORA and the SRA, but the ORA has provoked a civil war out of convenience, and the methods are pretty strongarmed compared to, say, the persean league

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>>183710916
So is not much that the mod is nazi rather than the author?

>>183713758
no
It's that the forum mod & a couple forum users are marxists

>>183713758
It's more someone in the mod team got assblasted at an implication he didn't like

if you read the thread, beyond the initial OP post where Anhe was an obvious fanboy, the other 5 pages of the threads are all about gameplay balance and design changes

An admin read the description of a several years old mod, got mad and convinced his other staff friends to censor the mod.

tl;dr politically charged autism

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>>183713758
It shouldn't matter what the author's leaning is, unless he's breaking rules. There was nothing in the mod itself to warrant getting the ban, even if you don't like the author's stance on things.

I'm ready for the Dong, WHERE IS IT?

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>>183663835
Post fleets

I also learned converted hangar is really handy for keeping fighters in engagement range, I've had issues with my carriers hardly ever pushing forward and supporting my fleet with long range weapons. Should've used this hull mod sooner.

What engine is Starsector on?

>>183717478
>Upper right
I see that you too like to let your catgirl sexslave captain one of your ships.

>>183718874
java

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>>183717478
>>183667985
Here's my current fleet
Once I found the Morningstar, I switched from the Barbarian since it had more moblility. My Officer has a Phase Buffalo with Reapers for max memes

>>183720505
dropped

>>183723139
but it has
pretty explosions

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>>183717478
Doing a lazy Diable play through. That Vapor didn't make it through the last battle and I haven't been able to make it back to a Diable port to rearm. Wish Diable had a better Thrush platform...I love Thrushes.

>>183724220
diable has really bad ships

wanzers are pretty cool and basically high damage insta flankers, but you can't depend only on carriers

the memeport capital can't deal wit AI hegemony destroyers, but it simply refuses to die

>Take sprites from a random game.
>Implement them as a half-assed mod with basic mechanics.
>Add a not so subtle "Nazi did nothing wrong" lore.
>Get your dick sucked hard by half of 4chan.
Well played Ahne, well played.

>>183725426
people thinking the forum moderators did wrong =/= sucking Ahne's dick

>>183725426
>t. Gothars

>>183725426
the very first post on the previous thread was someone calling anhe retarded

go away with your narrative

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>>183726447
How did it tasted?

tiny game with small community = time to ban modders for voting for Trump !

>>183726685
nice meme

well, we could use the bumps.

>>183725426
I think he should've been eternally bullied and shitposted on like how /stsg/ does with DME's creator for his autistic beliefs. Deleting the entire thread was wrong and uncalled for.

What's funny is that he's probably some shitskin or a wetback who sucks the swasticock for the le edgy contrarian cookie points. I can't recall the last time when some video-game related personality got ousted as a closet stormfag turned out to be actually white or German.

>>183726659
Oh yeah, keep sucking, just like that!

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>>183725426
>making a mod and needlessly inserting his Tumblr-tier political views all over it in much the same way as furries insert furshit into every game they touch
Stormfags are truly the new furries.

>>183726968
lots of white kids are pulling that one off nowadays. gotta thank pol for that

>>183727535
Political views are like dragon dildos or anal beads. You're free to use it whenever you want, it's a free country after all. But only the stormfags and liberuls seem intent on waving theirs around in public like it's something to be proud of.

>>183726683
>How did it tasted?
thanks for outing yourself as a barely literate third worlder, don't bother replying to me again.

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Guys there are more important issues to discuss like is there a crab ship with big nippers?

>>183728057
Dominators look like crabs and you can pretend the large ballistics are snippies

Those that think NGO as a mod did nothing wrong, or that Ahne as a person never said anything offensive on the forums or in the mod are all incorrect. You must look closer, read closer, read in between the lines, realize the terms he used, the things said, the light in which the overall theme was presented in and also see the post he has made, though I think it might be gone now.

He is Nazi trash, and the mod itself was his neo Nazi views presented as a power fantasy with no negative connotations. His own personal views, of historical revisionism that the Nazis did nothing wrong presented in the form of his mod. Fuck that shit, and anyone that thinks otherwise is a damn fool. Want Nazis in a game? Sure fine, make them The Enemy. It is that simple. Think otherwise? Hah, then fuck you too dudes.

And look at it this way, him being allowed to distribute that mod on the official forums. Could possibly hurt the reputation of Starsector and the devs behind it. So fuck off with the shit about defending NGO and Ahne, he made his choices and now has to live with them. Be thankful he was given a chance to fix the problems with the mod, rather than the mod and him just removed forever.

>>183731181
Also you might want to add that most people here didn't see the post that he left before it was deleted by the mods

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>>183731181

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>>183731496
I am laughing it up over here, it is all you faggots trying to defend Ahne that are making fools of yourselves. So please, continue to embarrass yourselves

>>183731749
ok gothars

>>183731181
I don't know what you are trying to gain trolling a nearly dead general. you've made more post in this thread than anyone else.

>>183732152
And you would be wrong. Besides it isn't trolling, it is informing those that think the entire NGO situation was not warranted.

>>183732293
the ten of so snappy remarks and references to concksucking are definitely trolling

It has been stablished previously that Anhe is retarded. Nobody really cares. People are furious the mods basically killed the mod because of their own opinions.

Either way, doens't matter. Let him post his nazis in space in this thread and call if a day. That is. if he has enough skin to post here.

>>183731181
>"read between the lines"
so in other words, make up a strawman instead of reading what the guy has actually posted?
>but some deleted post
produce a picture of the post then

>>183731181
Literally nobody cares!

Its a shity mod of look alike ships pulled from another game.
I wouldn't care if Hitler's ghost was on the forums making mods,
at the end of the day thats all it is, a MOD! nobody has to use it
they don't even have to view the forum thread.

>>183732839
Are you fucking stupid? It is full of references and terms and overall light of presentation that has no business being a mod!

No luck looking at cached version of the website, if I find it I will post it. But trust me he made a thinly veiled holocaust denial post on the Starsector forums.

>>183732918

Well, some folks care and you dense ass motherfuckers are still ignoring the angle of the precedent it sets and the possible damage it can cause to rep of the game itself. Stop being stupid, the world doesn't revolve around the opinions of just folks willing to look the other way regarding this sort of thing.

>>183733362
>has no business being a mod!
this is nothing more than your opinion
>>183733362
>But trust me he made a thinly veiled holocaust denial post on the Starsector forums.
are you talking about that "history is written by the victors" post he made? as out of place as that comment was, he isn't wrong.

>>183733362
Mate I've read through all the shit there start to finish! There is nothing extremist there! You can't ignore something that doesn't exist to begin with.

>Surely Alex will restore the mod! After all, it is just a space nazi mod!
LOL, don't forget anons, he flipped the fuck out and closed down the SS meme thread

>>183733610
Obviously not just mine, after all look what happened to the mod. Try harder.

>>183734542
Jesus fucking Christ, you are beyond hope.

>>183735167
>Opinions

>>183736460
The idea that putting Nazis into a game as not The Enemy is not OK. You assholes that don't realize that are stupid as hell.

>>183736610
>Hot opinions

>>183736891
And you should never have kids.

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>>183736610
Why do you capitalize "the enemy"? And you should've reported it as a bug if you're unable to fight them in the campaign..

>>183737210
Just to put emphasis on the fact, nothing else.


Anyways, another angle many are not considering. Is that ultimately what is and is not OK is the prerogative of the developers. Kicking and screaming of your laments will not change a damn thing.

>>183737210
He means more along the lines of the Templars. A universal and hated enemy for all factions

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>>183735167
If you want to see something everywhere you will do regardless of if it is or not. You will end up being more obsessed with nazis than actual nazis are. You are jumping at shadows dude.

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>>183737478
>Is that ultimately what is and is not OK is the prerogative of the developers
But the mods aren't developers, Alex didn't even comment a single thing about the whole ordeal.

>>183733362
>Are you fucking stupid? It is full of references and terms and overall light of presentation that has no business being a mod!

I doubt you know enough about German culture to separate nazy terms from normal German.

>Well, some folks care a

your mistake. Nothing sadder than an idiot on a political crusade about things he barely understands.

>>183736610
Do you also have spastics fits when playing Warhammer 40K?

you know, the game where anyone with genetic mutations gets executed by the state and genocide is the common response when meeting aliens species

because god forbid games being grimdark

>>183737506
You are hopeless, you are fake news.

If you cannot see the problems with the mod, of which I have stated several times. Then good God man what the hell is wrong with you?

Besides, once again. Nazis that are not The Enemy are not OK. Can you please get that through your dense skull?

>>183737575
I think his freak out over the Meme thread on the forums is proof enough

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>>183737759
>Extremely hot opinons

>>183737759
obvious troll is obvious

either way thanks for bumping the thread. perhaps we will get one last bump limit before dissapering.

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>>183737759
>you are fake news.
lmao dude are you okay? Do you need to get your tin hat out.

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>>183737759
>Doesn't like Gnadtzees
>Uses LiterallyWorseThanHitler™'s memes

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everyone just stop replying to this clown. if he hasn't already made it obvious enough, he's just a troll harvesting (you)s

>>183738708
I know, but it's good enough excuse to keep the thread alive till the next round of the tourney.

>>183738067
No problem for the bump, I truly love this game.


I stand by that I am not trolling, just trying to set the record straight. Anyways, bitch and moan all you want. Not Enemy Nazis are never going to be a thing in Starsector. Can they or similar things be present and tolerated in other games? Sure, but Starsector is not other games. So tough luck bitchlords.

And please, trying to turn this into a political argument? The actual politics of it has little or nothing to do with the real problem. Make the Nazis The Enemy, and remove the various references and other things etc and all is forgiven.

Anyways, have fun with the game and try to chill out. NGO will return if Ahne proceeds with the requests of the moderators. Getting your panties in a bunch over this entire situation is a waste of energy.

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>>183738812
>I stand by that I am not trolling
HowDoYouDoFellowPosters.jpg

>>183739406
Then if you really believe I am trolling, and not just stating facts.

Then follow this wise rule. "The only winning move is not to play."

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>>183740378
>VERY extremely hot opinions

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>This thread
Holy shit what the fuck happened? Turned into a dumpster fire real quick. Can't complain about the bumps I guess.

>>183724858
>diable has really bad ships
Yeah, but I find micro missiles and wanzers help distract enemy ships, long enough for them to get in and do damage or back off when pressured.

>>183741492
Wanzers are one of the most useful fighters, but they only come in 1 or 2s.

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>>183743661
>Valiants instakilling a wolf in the tourney

>>183743661
Yeah, I was just thinking that. Some used to come in threes if I remember correctly. The LPC for the new interceptor is rare, I've only seen one in this play through. They seem to die real quick, probably has to do with the long engagement range they have. The first to reach the enemy, so they just die by concentrated fire.

>>183744538
Man, I wanna try that new interceptor of theirs. Can't help but get Wanzers everytime though

>>183743661
So they need to get "combat carriers" with tough shields and reserve deployment

Should you use the modpack if you're just starting?

>>183752234
No. Just go vanilla plus some small utility mods (Combat Chatter, Console Commands, Autosave, Common Radar and Version Checker) for now, then later slowly get into mods. And don't use the mod pack as modders tend to update frequently

>>183750706
That sounds OP if you combine it with Diable's already good fighters

>>183752234
I'd say get used to vanilla battles and ships first, the switch to mods. One think I'd recommend is the target leading pip which is essentialy to aiming

>>183748204
In my experience, they're so fast that they miss everything they shoot at. I prefer to just stick with Raven spam.

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>>183741492
Don't worry about it, just someone upset about a mod of all things. At least it bumps the thread like ethics posting when 0.8a was out.

>>183734542
>>183737506
>>183714182
>>183713758
Nothing to see, really? Let's look at it then:

>New Galactic Order
Starting well with "New Order" reference right off the bat.

Then the ships are named after SS divisions, you can meet these up-standard gentlemen within the faction:
>Drexler,,l,"german"
>Bohrmann,,l,"german"
>Goebbels,,l,"german"
>Göring,,l,"german"
>Hess,,l,"german"
>Heydrich,,l,"german"
>Himmler,,l,"german"
(and many more high ranking SS and other Hitler's confident)

>The Hermodr-class was designed by the famous ""Nibelungenwerke""
That's a Nazi run factory that used concentration camps labor.

>Financed by a private industrial organization [...] to build up a new ""Reich""
Starting to spell it out.

>Some especially for foreigner and trading partner created sections are heavily protected by the military police to prohibit any thread for the population. Only allies to the NGO and few authorized people have seen the highly modern and wealthy society of the NGO. Latest sector polls indicates that the planet "Breidablik" and it's wealthy society became one of the most demanded places to live in the whole sector. It's highly focused family politics, great educational system and extraordinary political ideology counts to the iconic reasons for people to live on Breidablik.

>The main idea behind the NGO is to establish an old terran ideology, when the need arises even by force. The leadership of the ""New Galactic Order"" convicted the established factions to be responsible for the growing decadence and the downfall of human values since the collapse. Their only way to secure the future of the human species lies in peace through war, in eradicating the corruption and to sow the seed of an most perfect ideology into the hearts and minds of all people in the sector.
I'll help you, it says "Nazis were right".

Don't even try to pretend NGO isn't Nazi bullshit.

There's like half a dozen salvage fleets orbiting each world in some systems and its annoying as hell. Before I blow them all up with console commands, do they actually affect the sector in some way besides making it appear less empty?

>>183766520
It is almost like the mod is about Nazis that did nothing wrong, and the author is a Nazi or something.

Do you guys get it yet?

This whole ngo business is crazy, I mean even with all those references still I enjoy the ships and having a few more stable world's to build on, and I understand that the game doesn't want to be associated with nazism, but I don't think because if one small.mod and niche game will become a hotbed of nazis...at the end of the day people could just not download it and let it die but obviously there are people that want to use the shops....after all all I want is more content
Just how people used to single out dme for being OP and complaining I still loved fighting their fleets and using their ships
I just hope that ngo comes back I don't want to see a mod I like get deleted, I enjoy fighting and rucking over space nazis!

Back in track though someone said ICE had been picked up for updates....I can't wait! I just hope it's out by Christmas time!
Can't wait to get home and start posting fleets, I will keep this thread alive!

>>183766520
>Don't even try to pretend NGO isn't Nazi bullshit
No one in this thread ever denied NGO wasn't Nazi bullshit.What everyone has been trying to point out is, There's no rules against mods being about Nazi bullshit. Which means his mod was ban'd for No. Fucking. Reason. Just because you don't like Nazi's doesn't mean you can ban whatever you don't like. Especially in a game where every faction are different shades of asshole.

>>183772003
Except there is a forum rule against posting anything promoting hate speech.

And the main issue isn't the Nazi theme, it's Nazis presented as good guys white knights when every other faction in the game are various shades of assholes. Even SRA isn't as spotless as NGO.

Thread needs more Dong.

>Nexerelin, Dynasector, couple faction mods
>enjoying blackrock ships
>they fucking refuse to ever have cruisers in stock
>even with max populated systems, max planets and stations, cannot find a single blackrock station that sells cruisers
>decide to start capturing hegemony's shit
>capture missions give 20k credits, can't be that hard right
>response fleet has two battleships and an assload of support
oh
okay

>>183772683
How are they presented as the white knight good guys?

>>183773975
see
>>183766520

>Latest sector polls indicates that the planet "Breidablik" and it's wealthy society became one of the most demanded places to live in the whole sector. It's highly focused family politics, great educational system and extraordinary political ideology counts to the iconic reasons for people to live on Breidablik.

>>183726968
>like how /stsg/ does with DME's creator
DME is blatantly unbalanced and the modder keep saying "it's fine :^)".
NGO actually tries to be balanced and the modder listens to feedback (the very first 5 pages of it's thread were balance discussions)
The DME guy instead ranted about "ebil trolls from 4chin" when given balance stuff

>>183775102
NGO has some hideously OP outlier content (as in so bad how the fuck did he not realize it?), not polished, and poorly made in general.

Nazi bullshit or not, I would never play the mod. But I will point and laugh!

>>183774630
And every faction presents themselves as "good guys saviors of the sector" even though they all are different shades of asshole
Tri-tach
>oh, yes, tech and stuff, we'll drag ourselves out of this stagnation, it's the hegemony that is totalitarian and backwards and impedes any progress that could help the sector as a whole in order to cling to whatever power it has
Hegemony
>tri tach=BAD they nearly killed us all with their AI bullshit, plus they do unhetical experiments
Luddic church/path
>REEEEEEEEE ANARCHO PRIMITIVISM NOW REEEEEEEE

And let's not forget the mod stuff, like how the ORA caused a fucking civil war because it benefited them, and they are one of the more "good guys" in the sector

>>183774630
A planet description equals white knighting Nazi's
meanwhile
>>183766520
>Then the ships are named after SS divisions, you can meet these up-standard gentlemen
Proceed's to list people I'd want to go skipping through a field of flowers with while holding hands.
>That's a Nazi run factory that used concentration camps labor.
Hinted use of concentration camps, is that like Bible camp?
You know, if I was a faction I'd write up nice fluff for myself as well as demean my rivals. Yet in the fluff pieces in the mod you can pick out that they probably have concentration camps that use forced labor, people named after some horrible people, and will use force on anyone who opposes them. In the name of peace of course.
>Except there is a forum rule against posting anything promoting hate speech.
I think we just hit the real reason and not fluff text of a faction describing how awesome it is. Nazi=hatespeech

>>183775547
That's the point though, as soon as you look in the lore none of the factions are good by a long shot (or straight up evil). Now find me one element in NGO that would even suggest they aren't in fact the perfect good guys they are presented as.

>>183776096
Peace through force, hinted concentration camps, list of swell individuals, and the name New Galactic Order

>>183776096
Reading between the lines?
Also. If i want to see the misdeeds of Hegemony i'll go look on the Tri-Tach, Ludd and Syndrian lores, in the Hegemony description they are unabashedly the good guys.
Guess what? Same for tritach, i go to read the description of tri tach and what do i see? Humble scientists out to improve the lives of everyone and make some cash so to finance even better stuff to further improve our lives o the point the sector will end up being a paradise, let's look at the Hegemony description and i see that the tri-tach is morally bankrupt, a bunch of corporate cuttroath every single one of them, glad to dunk the first poor sod they run into into a vat of acid if that meant getting some data for their schemes, also they nearly killed everyone with their AI experiments.

Also, on the topic of nazis, remember that video that shown the camps as being a happy place where nobody was mistreated or killed (can't remember if it was an actual propaganda video or one made for a film)? Yeah, about that.

>>183776468
k so you believe in shrunken heads, human skin lampshades, and masturbation death machines?

>>183776531
The human skin lampshade was written in the mein kampf, along with "enough fat for 7 bars of soap, enough sulphur to kill all of a dog's fleas, enough iron to make a nail" and some other stuff
Shrunken heads is vodoo stuff, they might have been quite the occultists but that was more ancestor worship/north europe pagan/viking stuff
For the masturbation machines i think it's a troll, that's too far fetched.

Btw, found the vid, it was for a movie it seems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqKkJVLgFew

Was the opinion that his faction fluff not being grimdark enough posted in his thread? Was there ever a discussion on it or was the thread just locked outright?

>>183777268
The thread is still there but is locked. You can go and see but idk if stuff was deleted from it

>>183773860
>invade pirate planet
>fucking diable show up to defend it
no this is not okay

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While I joined in, this thread tho. Also Dong bump.

>>183778178
Diable is cozy with pirates, even supplying them with ships. Until said ships got removed cause of people complaining about their crappiness.

Nazi bump :D

Just kidding I like to stir the pot

>tfw can't find supplies or crew ANYWHERE
Is this a Nexerelin problem or does it happen in vanilla as well? I've cut my fleet in half but that doesn't help when 50% of stations just flat out do not have supplies or crew.
Every pirate and his mother having battleships and obviously twice as many deployment points to work with when I'm stuck with half-assed cruisers isn't helping either.

>>183786886
I'm guessing you're playing random generation?
If it's corvus mode there's plenty of places with supplies...once you know where they are....
Maybe start as your own faction in random mode to make sure you at least have a Base to work from

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>>183786886
>Is this a Nexerelin problem
If you're running a random sector, it could be a problem. If you're running corvus mode, then go to Askonia

>>183788051
>>183788064
Random mode, I gave up started over.
Then I made the mistake of picking the middle options for fleet size and dosh/level pool, and got my cruiser slaughtered by a pair of frigates 5 seconds out of the start system.

I think I'm done with this game.

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>>183788931
Did you do a couple playthroughs without mods?

>>183786886
If you have it enabled the prism freeport should have a bunch of crew and supplies, IIRC it's usually out in hyperspace in the middle of the galaxy.

Salvation bump, praise ludd

Charybdis is my cruiserfu.

>try diable because they have been praised so much
>its shit

>>183798454
Git gud and learn to love the missiles/wanzer spam
Also the Vapor (or the other frigate that looks like it, the bigger one) is a absolute beast, faster than a Wolf and with much more firepower to boot.

>>183798454
I don't get the diabetes is shit meme
It couldn't be further from the truth
Just git gud

>>183798454
>Get a storm
>Put three frosts or valiants on it
>Beat everything
Git gud my man

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>>183766520
So you are saying I get to dogfight Göring

We are not predetending the NGO is not nazi. We are saying having nazis in space is fucking hilarious

>>183776291
kek

>>183775102
oh god yes, DME is fucking broken. It isn't just one thing either.

1. They have excellent flux venting depsite having full energy set up
2. The have Imperium tier armor in their cruisers and capitals
4. They have high damage energy blasters that kill a cruiser in 10 seconds, tops.
3. Their capital and cruisers are also amongst the fastest ships for their size, specially when equipped with a military officer despite having massive armor and firepower

I like them in concept: Sturdy, powerful cruisers and capitals and subpar frigates and destroyers. But they need to slow down their ships ASAP. I got OUTRAN by it's capital ship with an Aurora, one of the fastest cruisers in vanilla

>>183768434
exterminating indies and having to fight the half dozen salvage fleets is pretty fun

>>183798454
diable is meant to hold the line while at least 3 carriers have their wanzers outflank anything that gets near.

never send anything in open combat, you have to protect those carriers all the time. have some drone fighters to stop ships from firing at the wanzers too.

They will eat through armor and hull pretty fast. you need to concentrate fighter fire and hold on until the enemy ship retreats or panics.

>>183807328
Question: is the source code for DME available anywhere? Is the mod still modifiable (in a way that doesn't require a bytecode guru) if you don't have the source?

Cuz while the ships look good, they do really need a nerf, and some of such nerfs are in stuff that isn't in the weapons.csv stuff (like oh-hit effects)

>>183808912
I don't know much about modding. are you sure the ship's can't be modified normally? Starsectors mods are very easy to modify once you familiarise with them

>>183809538
Yes, but as i said i remember stuff like on-hit effects and hullmods scripts being less accessible

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>>183731181
Those that think Communism as a State formdid nothing wrong, or that Stalin as a person never said anything offensive on the forums or in the Government are all incorrect. You must look closer, read closer, read in between the lines, realize the terms he used, the things said, the light in which the overall theme was presented in and also see the post he has made, though I think it might be gone now.

He is Commie trash, and the mod itself was his red views presented as a power fantasy with no negative connotations. His own personal views, of historical revisionism that the Soviets did nothing wrong presented in the form of his mod. Fuck that shit, and anyone that thinks otherwise is a damn fool. Want Soviets in a game? Sure fine, make them The Enemy. It is that simple. Think otherwise? Hah, then fuck you too dudes.

And look at it this way, him being allowed to distribute that mod on the World. Could possibly hurt the reputation of Humanity and the World leaders behind it. So fuck off with the shit about defending Communism and Stalin, he made his choices and now has to live with them. Be thankful he was given a chance to fix the problems with the Government, rather than Russia and him just removed forever.

>>183812256
reee alt right nazi trump real communism has never been tried everyone dies because of capitalism pig nazi trump reee

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fleet bump

>>183817341
>dme

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>>183817341
366k bounty....4 onslaughts

>>183812256
You are a funny man, I nerf you last.

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>>183817341
Just got done with an IBB, didn't deploy the Gust to save on costs. IBB Mule had some sort of super drone on it and the poor Vapor couldn't hold on right at the end.

>>183817341
how good is that shadowyards battleship?

"IF YOU READ BETWEEN THE LINES HE'S A HORRIBLE TRUMP VOTING BIGOT"

>>183822965
It has a terminator drone, same as Tempest frigates

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>>183823091
Its built in Mega CEPCs do 1000 dps as long as they have ammo, so it can kill pretty much everything except Paragons fast as shit. Hits max flux really quickly though.

>>183825635
nice, I love me some good built in weapons. what does the ship system do?

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>>183826078
Pretty much what it says on the tin. Boosts your turn rate and lateral speed, while preventing you from moving forwards or backwards.
If you feel like it, you can use it to strafe your way into a fight quicker.

I'm still salty over the Shadowyards dev making the Deva and Murti beams shit

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>>183826851
>Boosts your turn rate and lateral speed, while preventing you from moving forwards or backwards.

I really don't like the SRA, their ship aesthetic completely stands out from the entire game. they're sitting pretty on a maaaaagical terran-eccentric market 10 size planet and a big huge empire spanning it, they're lore is how they're "even older and scarier than the Hegemony teehee" and their weapons all try to be "magic but SPACE".

>>183829680
Basically their deal is that they were in the sector first (diable also gets that fluff) and had much more time to grow.

not sure if they are biggen than the imperium

None of these marxist mods would have batted an eye if it was a black nationalist or muslim or asian nationalist faction

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>>183832097
You're trying to hard. Here's your (You)

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>125k bounty
ok
>Medium size fleet
good
>pilots an Astral
nope.jpg

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>>183833973
>200k bounty
>Large fleet
>Pilots a falcon
>Thought it was just a trillion hounds
>See two onslaughts

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>Make mod for starsector just to satiate my missile needs
>Take old missile cruiser from Patria mod
>Update it for 8.1
>Load up with special missiles
>Pillums on crack
>Send it into battle against an entire fleet by itself
>Fifteen seconds later fleet is dead
>Fuckyes.jpg
Pic Related

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>>183838189
One of the reasons I like Micro Missiles, I can't wait to get a Maelstrom again. They also make good distractions. Alas, I thought I had taken a better MM swarm shot.

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Meso? Where's the Dong? I need it, now man.

>>183842069
Dealing with a lot of bullshit right now, barely any time to work on the mod.

>>183846139
Well that sucks. Hope things get straightened out for you.

>>183825635
Vardr looks great even if I can't drift behind an Onslaught that burns in front of me. Seems like it would be a lot of fun to use like the Mimir and not too slow as a flagship if the strafe speed is reasonably high.

>>183828238
I did a campaign right before the change but not after. Was it worse than the nerfs to Scatter CEPC? Those HE beams were my jam, I loved how they would make frigates like Lashers grind to a halt and turn them around.

>>183848440
Yeah, the way they work right now is so shit you can barely hit the broadside of a cruiser....
He needs to reverse the beams so the spread out instead of converging. Either that or make the beams use the aiming pips to show where they will start.

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Can someone upload NGO?

Literally do not give a fuck that there is a Space Nazi theme. Luddites, Templars, Loli Captains, organ harvesting and drug peddling- oh yes. A group dedicated to racial purity (a common sci fi theme) OH NO!!!!

Fucking moronic.

>>183858442
Does anyone have the other individual versions of the Panda? If so, could you upload them to a place like imgur and post here?

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>>183858859

Like this one?

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>>183663835
>>183858442
http://www.mediafire.com/file/r8svrk5rohrl8f3/New+Galactic+Order+1.05.rar

>>183859751
Yes.

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>>183860702
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/r8svrk5rohrl8f3/New+Galactic+Order+1.05.rar


My boy of fellow kinship.

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>>183860847

I'm sorry friend, this is all I have.

Haven't played in a while, are Sparks still god tier fighters?

>>183862045
No. They were nerfed hard and lost one of their two Burst PD lasers

>>183862114
Rest in peace.

For those that want the Panda sprites, here is most that were made by Tarti
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=4264.msg186802#msg186802

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>>183862468

And, my personal favorite. God Bless the man who made this for me. I should split it in half and make a Maelstrom out of this, too

>>183862580
Wasn't there a "NOT THE BEES!!!" Version as well?

How often do you think Alex actually plays the game?

>>183863990
Very little judging from what the modders have said

>thread is still alive
I'm really proud of you guys.

>>183866783
Tried my hardest to bump it everytime it hit page 10

too bad we're 100% ded af

>>183864381
Alex said that he never plays modded, not that he never plays (quite the contrary).

Obviously a solo dev isn't goign to spend much time playing his own game
In fact outside of bug testing I'd be very surprised if he played any.

>>183869583
I meant more from what I've heard from the modders that say that they spend more time modding then actually playing. And Alex use to play with mods before but he doesn't anymore

>>183862841
It was made later, I just edited the forum post with it.

>>183728057

Gondalactys / Scorpion / anything Blackrock

>>183869915
Wow that is one that I never saw. Sadly it isn't the one I was thinking about. The one that I was thinking about was one that had black and gold colors along with bees and hexagons on it

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>>183862580

Eh, no probs.

>>183870453

That one never ended up working as an actual model for some reason- at least, when I installed it on, the shield never activated. I'm going to assume because the shield is a separate piece/entity that isn't covered in that skin.

>>183871116
The neutrino fortress shield thing?

>>183871276

Yeah, the primary draw so to speak for having the Colossus in your fleet. Never was able to get the Guardian Shield (I believe thats the name) to work with the Jihadi model. Super shame, too, because the model looks pretty damn good beside the Pandemonium.

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Pretty sure that Neutrino capital is bugged again. I saw these two fleets going at it over a month ago, and they're still in the same exact state.

>>183872760
i dont think its neutrino, ive seen the same thing happen between a coalition fleet and an imperium one, i was waiting to see if i could salvage a battleship but after a week a single ship wasnt dying to a whole fleet...

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>>183870315
There was an Onslaught that fits that description but I don't recall any Pandemonium with that paintjob.

>>183873480
Yeah, the panda was painted VERY similar to that pic.
Maybe I'm just crazy...

>>183680064
I like to run at least two extremely quick frigates even in large fleets. Even if they don't end up killing anything they distract a good chunk of ships on each flank.

>>183872953
Yeah, just a bit after I made that post I encountered that bug again except with Scy this time. It's the first time I've seen it happen without having the Neutrino shield capital involved though.

which faction has the best women

>>183879594
my dick

>>183879594
Hegemony has 14th BG Onslaught-sama, so them.

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>Be away from these threads for a while
>NGO bullshit
>people in this thread actually protect banning and censorship of a mod because it's not a fantasy they personally like
>muh moral and backstory autism
>muh 6 gorillion ships

>>183881369
>waaa waaa muh nazi power fantasy has been removed from the forum waaaaaaaa
The sweet tears of Alt Retarded, mmmmh, I'm lovin' it.

>>183884858
thanks for the bump m8
shit tier b8 tho

booomp

>>183736610
did you come directly from tumblr or facebook? holy fuck, kill yourself, you're too dumb to live

>>183776684
>was written in the mein kampf
not really
>For the masturbation machines i think it's a troll
nope

>>183890075
https://www.quora.com/Did-they-really-make-soap-bars-out-of-humans-in-the-concentration-camps-of-Nazi-Germany
They indeed make soap out of the prisoners

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>>183822965
It slowly grows. Picked up another Hayle, a Dericho, and a couple Vapors. Not pictured is a few Drafts, tanker, and freighter. Lost a couple Drafts on an IBB fight, they brought a lot of missiles. Probably retire them to escorting the carriers now and make the Vapors do the front line escorting.
On another note, this game always makes me want to go back and start a game of X3 Albion Prelude

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>>183894358
>Be nazi
>Consider an ethnicity filthy subhumans deserving of gassing
>Consider them so absolutely putrid and low that one cares more about the effect mass executions would have on his own troops than actually just get rid of them efficiently with bullets
>Decide I want people to wash themselves with them

>Nuremberg trials

>>183895353
Not all nazis were complete and utter monsters.
Only the higher ups, they probably decided on the whole gas thing while grumbling "fucking weaksauce amateurs, fooled by the humanoid shape of the untersmench", thinking of their underlings.

And i'm pretty sure they didn't tell their underlings the soap was made from that for the same reason.

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>>183895598
>When most other genocides in history were just "go there chop their heads off play football with them and fuck off" without even needing the excuse of the other side apparently being subhumans
>Gommies doing it just fine, even worked them all to death for free manpower instead of killing them
I don't understand. Nazis were evil but at the same time not evil enough?

>>183896061
Germany was more civilized at the time, being mostly a modern (for the time) western country.
Wether this is a good thing or a bad one i can't say

>>183895353
>>183895598
>>183896061
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. The only thing the article mentions for certain is that a sample of a bar of soap had human fat in it. The rest of the quora article is full of things like:
>possibly experimental
>seems sound
>believed to have been
These aren't things you say if you're sure something happened, the way you say it does.

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>>183898652
(cont.)
Anyways, I don't think /stsg/ is a place to discus Nazi warcrimes.

Starsector general

Now with free history classes!

>>183873480

Since discussing the Yellow/Black Panda in this thread, Tartiflette added it to the forum link that's in this thread. Go check it out mat.

>>183902189
Where?

>>183903772
>http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=4264.msg186802#msg186802

>>183903772

Control F, Fractalsoftworks.com you fucking idiot.

Learnhow2internet

>>183889909
You go first.

Don't you die on me damnit!

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Love the smell of missile exhaust in the afternoon

FREE AHNE

REAPERS OUT FOR AHNAMBE

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>>183918081

Makes me wonder what a reaper would do planetside. Would it be more or less effective than a nuke?

>break a Pirate siege over an allied planet
>my heroism is rewarded with less than three months worth of salary
Cheap bastards.

>>183921682
Considering we have zero idea on what a certain amount of armor and hull look IRL since we know little about what materials, technologies and manufacturing techniques they have?
Anywhere from a bang snap to the entire US nuclear arsenal

>>183921916
Makes you wish you could "accidentally" drop a few reapers on them.
>>183922124
Well reapers are said to use antimatter in their warheads which are catalyzed by fission nukes. So maybe a fusion bomb on steroids?

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time for some serious roleplay!

>>183923508
What is that Absorb shield mod? And why do you have two Pandas, including one with nearly 2.5K OP?

>>183921916
Sorry. Heroism is a tariffed good.

>>183924150
absord shield is from noir/looters
its not supposed to be usable

i only have 1 panda
for some reason i have to take 2 screenshots
and they wierdly duplicate

and the 2000op is for roleplaying purposes

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>>183923508
>1681/478
>1960 to 9133 flux

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>>183923508

I just want an entire desert brown themed Diable set to pit against Templars and Luddites now. Fuck, that model looks good.

>>183927646
I love the black and gold colors. It is just that the islam shit ain't my thing

Considering all the related noise in this thread, mod based on the following when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cy9HeM8QQc

>>183929491
SCY

>>183929619

God damn it, I'm that guy late for every party.

help

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>getting punished by my allies for friendly fire
>when their frigates decided that the best place to park their ass is right in front of my face when I'm firing my death rays
Those fuckers were asking for it.

>>183937658
They just want to chip away at the capital ship's hull with their dual machine guns, because clearly that will do more damage than something larger.

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>>183895045
Dropped poor Versant-chan and the Drafts. Want to pick up a couple Calms, since they're basically two Drafts and a shield. Which ties into my feeling of not being able to field enough Wanzers. It feels like I'm not getting fighter superiority. So each Calm is going to be running Converted Hangars with Frosts. See if that helps fix things.

>>183948016
Wouldn't you'd be dealing with a replacement time of 35 seconds on those Frosts due to the Converted Hangers penalty? Seems pretty fucking brutal.

>>183948939
I know, but what can I do. Diable has a lack of midline carrier. Fractus tends to struggle with... anything really, then you jump right to the Storm battlecarrier.

>>183951653
Eh.. converted hangars? I'd rather use Diable's ships with Wanzer servicers

>>183951790
I do. I have three Fractus right now. Two of them run nothing but Frosts. Two Gusts which have Bliz's.

>>183951653
I personally dislike the Storm. Feels like for what you're getting you might as well just field another Maelstrom.

>The ship's memory banks are partially accessible, and contain information that a derelict ship is located in the Corvus star system.

>>183963326
Was it a Diable Pandy? There's always one of those things lying around in the one of the core systems.

>>183959565
Never really got to use the Storm, so I really have no opinion yet. They are close to deploy cost wise: 35 for the Storm and 40 for the Maelstrom, with the Storm having one extra fighter bay.

>>183965095
the thing is though the maelstrom is much more useful in direct combat.

I've been playing with Nexerelin on for a while, and I was under the impression that it includes Omnifactory, but I can't find it anywhere. What's up with that?

>>183948016

You are a fool to drop a Versant. That thing is one of the most brutally efficient mop-up ships to pilot when you need to deal with fleeing salvage rig/tankers/frigates/freighters

>>183972467
The Prism from Nex will be lying somewhere in hyperspace. If you have the Scy mod installed, it'll be in their home system south of Galatia instead.

>add destroyers to my fleet
>they fly in front of me trying to kill cruisers that I should be dealing with
>add cruisers instead
>spend more time looking for fuel and supplies than I do looking for fights
why the flying fuck can you not check market details remotely
it's not like a fuel plant is going to suddenly stop being a fuel plant

>>183948939
On the other hand, the Wanzer Servicing Gantry is a hullmod you can also buy (rarely) and use with converted hangars.

>>183975407
We're talking about a Calm though. You might as well ditch the thing and run another Fractus if you're going to spend all that OP on to get some gimped fighters.

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Im going to mod this game for the first time, give me some mod recomendations, i really don't know what's good and what's bad in the popular mods list in OP

Also what skills are considerated useless in vanilla?

>>183974420

Do you really need to take all your ships for a fight? Just buy a storage and put some useless ships there, that should help a bit.

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heh

>>183981014
didnt notice you cant see in the pick the planet is called tartifilet

If I stick hullmods like Heavy Armor and Reinforced Bulkheads on Scy's Nemean Lion, will that also affect its modular armor?

>"The RNG may know you are playing a pirated copy of this game, let the paranoia begin!"
I'll bite. Does this actually do anything?

>>183983670
How about buying the game?

>>183983670
No.

>>183985908
it's free advertisement alex

free fucking advertisement

Wish threads weren't pruned just because the more active generals are making new threads

>>183988678
yeah, threads at bump/image limit should be pruned before those that aren't

>bounties at 350k
>haven't been able to kill one since they were 150k
time to restart again and just stick with surveying

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>>183663835
Just fought against a looter prototype fleet for the first time. My fleet consists of several hammerheads, one enforcer, one condor, two hades, one archer, one Interrex and my flagship, medusa.

I can't destroy them and they blast me down over time. Hyper massive armor, strong PD and very nasty fighter screen. The frigates are no problem, but the two cruisers literally teleport behind my ships. Their weapons have insane range and their fighters are very fast, resilient and have high offensive power. The cruisers alone can take a retarded amount of punishment and I think they might even have a slow regeneration ability.

The two cruises literally go "psh, nothin' personell kid" on my ass and teleport behind me several times, with no apparant flux costs to their teleport. I tried to get away with my Medusa to vent off my high flux, and the fucker literally teleported behind my ass multiple times and opened fire right away.

Meanwhile their fighters harass my ships with near impunity. All three hammerheads have 2 burst pd lasers and the enforcers has good PD with two autonailers.

And when I finally corner one of their cruisers and my fleet starts to tear into it, it just teleports away again.

How can I counter this and win the fight? Have any of you people already fought that kind of fleet and won? If so, how did you do it?

>>183993371
You use less shitty mods
Or you use even more OP mods yourself (DME)

>>183993371
Those ships have 3500 armor and their fighters are small destroyers...they don't do much dmg but it takes forever to kill them, I don't see why you would be trying with your tiny fleet....

That being said they do drop A LOT of Ai cores

I'd suggest at least a few large mounts to make sure you don't run out of cr before you even take out their armor
They also have 30000 hp...

>>183996267
>Ai cores

Not him but besides money what are they good for?

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>>183993371
>>183994195
>>183996267
Thank you for your advice. I will attack this kind of fleet at a later time. Feels like they are intended to be some kind of very powerful boss faction, or something.

Oddly enough I remember meeting one of those fleets in an earlier game version and having a chat with the captian over the "comm link" option. This time they just engage right away, despite me being neutral with the Looters.

Anyways, thank you for the advice. Have a laugh in return.

>>184000157
Improving relations

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>>184000157
Omnifactory mod lets you build ships, using cores as a component.

captcha stop I don't want to watch iron man right now

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I love these things. While they didn't work to well here, I've seen them outright destroy frigates on the opening salvo.

>>184003372

I enjoyed the previous Haze build when I salvaged nothing but self-reloading missile racks. Two 'steady' captains in those set to trail behind my ship was a torpedo-lightshow. With the new Haze build, I am finding it difficult to make something functional with that ship even utilizing only diable weaponry.

>>183917895
with every 5 gallons

>>184004410
I'm in the same boat with the Haze. I used to run it with three Plover racks, but it didn't work out to well for me this time.

>>184006687

Yeah, Plover racks + Banish Torps while loaded to the tilt with Recsons and Burchtel's was my go to. Now that doesn't work at all.

>>184008897
You running a combat captain? Used to be you went combat skills, but now with the skill changes maybe it doesn't work to well.

Why do so many modded factions refrain from having AI cores as an illegal commodity? They're bad shit, you know.

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Is it worth it to put any points into INDUSTRY?

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>>184010130
Hegemony, please. There's nothing wrong with wAIfus. They're perfectly harmless and care about your well being, 100%.

>>184010986
Serve yourself a nice hot plate of Japari fuck you. You machines won't trick me.

>>184010581
I went and got the skill that instantly repairs half of your fleets damage, for free. Might be worth it, but I doubt it.

Hahahaha what the fuck happened to Surveying

>>184010581
I never get Industry. It only takes a couple cycles for you to save up enough credits that the skills become useless, and the game heavily revolves around combat right now anyways.

>Not going full Industry and running an ultra cheap fleet of D-Ships
>Not going a no-market run and replenishing your ships and arms solely by cannibalizing your enemies

>>184011669
Money isn't that hard to come by. Your skills are better used to buff your fleet

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>>184011283
Don't you mean:
Serval yourself a nice hot plate of Japari buns, meatbag

Is an omni-shield conversion on a maelstrom a stupid idea? It has a long and skinny profile that makes it hard to hit from the front, but it takes so much fucking damage from flanking shots and stray missiles with its fixed frontal shield. Even a full compliment of Diable PD isn't enough to stop everything if you fly aggressively with the flicker core.

That 45 OP is a lot that could otherwise be spent on more weapons or maxing out flux. Should I drop the omni and fly less aggressively?

>>184013250
>using a ship with a wide frontal shield and long range missiles like a discount Onslaught
Yeah no, stop that.

>>184013250
ideally you should be set up for long range on that thing, so you can duel other capital ships and win because of your small, efficient shield. the maelstrom gets a ton of small mounds for PD to cover your flanks against frigates and bombers. the normal armor envelope of the ship is usually enough to weather a few flanking attacks.

tl:dr I think omni-shield on the maelstrom is a waste and that OP could be put to better use elsewhere

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Since we're talking about skills, post captains? Waiting to see what kind of carrier Aids I'll get.

>>184013557

Are you supposed to fly it like a long-range support platform? Fuck that's boring. Also seems like a waste of the flicker core subsystem which lends itself very well to burst damage.

>>183981572
Not yet but that's the plan eventually.

>>184014125
Far from a waste. The flicker core is immediate mobility when you need it the most - disengaging or chasing. Give it any 1k+ range large weapon and a bunch of HVDs in the medium slots, and you'll do just fine.
>boring
The most effective solution isn't guaranteed to be fun. Stick a cautious officer on it if you don't enjoy piloting it. The Pandemonium is even worse at that, because you ideally just give it a shit ton of missiles and PD, slap Shield Bypass on it, and only arm it with Tachyon Lances for sniping small craft.

One option for surviving as "fragile" craft is to simply outgun everything and running the fastest venting speed you can possibly get.

>>184015328

Thanks anon

>>184015843
I should have mentioned
If you find the AI doing something that's extremely annoying, chances are it's actually good.

>Those phase ships that buzz around your capital but always disengage before you can really damage them
A distraction. Less damage you're dealing to the other large ships. (Unless you have tactical lasers in the back and the AI doesn't know what to do about them)

The most annoying thing I've found Diable AI do was spamming flicker to disengage with and forcing me to chase through the rest of their fleet. Now, this is obviously not a strategic decision by the AI because they're just panic retreating, but it's one of the more effective uses. Bring your fleet with you, provide heavy fire support (this includes offensive Wanzers, or interceptors if your fleet is bad at PD) from roughly the center of the formation, soak as much damage as you can before having to vent, and turn off your guns so you don't overload while flickering out.
/rant

But admittedly, I haven't played much Diable, so I haven't had much room to experiment. Diable capitals have a free +200 range bonus, so making them support ships just seems natural to me.

The playstyle doesn't have to be passive either. Give Shadowyards' Mimir a try and arm it with CEPCs and Tachyons. Kind of has to rely on besieging other capitals, but dismantles anything smaller with immense burst damage.

Christ, all these pissed off ORA patrols are so annoying. Worse than Pathers, at least those guys fuck off and stop engaging you once you get big enough.

>>184010581
Field Repairs is amazing.
Safety Procedures is p. good.
Recovery Ops is debatable.
Surveying is not much use at all.
Salvaging is useful, but probably not useful enough to warrant 3 skill points to fully exploit abandoned stations - you can still blow them up and recover a decent amount to loot without them.

>>184023093

>Field Repairs is amazing.

Is it? You can always just wait it out or go to a station and pay the bill

Stream time for the tournament!

FallenShogun is getting online

>>184023794
>fallenshogun
I prefer nemo mannerism wise but he's awful at the game
Never seen fallenshogun because i closed the video after the first word he spoke, but a hype epic twat can't be any good at the game i reckon

>>184023494
Ever try to fight a red AI beacon for more than like 3 fights?