/domg/ Dominions General

4.31 rip + crack where? thanks
Theres apparently one based bulgarian who has been cracking this game for a while.

Previous Pantokrator >>183333665
oops

Okay, final version of this shit is up: http://mega.nz/#!ZrBnyLhR!uMp9EgtYzObhXeHXJGvtxnK0Y9Qka_bOA9JteDanaiI
Submit your pretenders. We'll be starting in 24h+40 minutes.

so domg what is your favorite global?

>>183654116
Celestial Rainbow <3

>>183654116
The one that overrides your favorite.

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ModCombiner is released!

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3425

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>>183655649
Oh god damn it.

>>183656053
Your game made me do it.

>>183647829
getting backstabbed

hjklyubn

Saw your post in the last thread Agartha, sending you a little bit of gold as a thank you

Come on, don't die. At least shitpost about cracks.

>>183654116
I like plunging the whole world into darkness.

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>>183654116
Best global

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>>183665790
New version of hindus, changes include:
>Vritra is now cheaper, has fear, can shapeshift properly and has grab and swallow
>conjure maya should be fixed
>host of maya is now Alt 3
>tiger dudes with glaives now have glaives
>tiger dudes with two weapons now have ambidextrous
>asura now have 4 hand slots
>bigger asura now have 6 eyes, 4 hand slots and an extra misc slot
>You now have access to all of the other monkey gods

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQvrB13LOtaQVhzNVZ4bmxPNXM/view?usp=sharing

>>183667103
Didnt mean to quote there.

>>183667103
Same as before but now with less ludicrously under priced mages. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQvrB13LOtaNkJUUkdsT003Uzg/view?usp=sharing

>>183667329
Don't bully him, he is a better player than you anyway. I don't get why do people shittalk him just for beating me once when obviosly I'm better.

>>183668291
There are only so many notorious elfpickers in this small community and they deserve all the derision, especially for losing to japs.

>>183667329
Whats the story here?

>>183668650
Midgard attacked Jomon and is inexplicably getting pushed back all the way to his cap.

>>183668889
>tfw people told you folded nip steel couldnt cut through giant armour
>raughingsamurai.jpg

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>>183654068


This is one example of what happens. The issue is chaos armor not existing for some reason.

This happens for all the units and commanders of the nation, but here are three of them.

>>183669175
If I had to guess I would say that chaos armor doesnt have a #newarmor thing in the DM. Its hard to tell though since its so bunched up.

Who runs a bless on Midgard anyways? Ormr + Einheres is best

>>183670286
Weren't skinshifters considered their best unit? Haven't played Midgard since Dom3 though.

>>183671000
Skinshiters are now terrible, but einheres are good

>>183671000
>>183671078
He means not* terrible, most likely.

They're different units, but einheres are better in general on account of their excellent attack density and damage once they go berserk

>>183671113

They are ok and maybe would be good for other nations but since they compete with einheres they are very meh.

So will there be a new mod for the new hindus or should I submit with the current one?

>>183673224
I'm the hindu guy and I'm going to be playing Sawaiki so probably go with the current one. Unless someone else wants to try them I guess.

If my pretender dies with a curse mark, will he still be cursed when clued back?

>>183673298
I think it depends on how long they stay dead for but they will probably still be cursed.

>>183673298
Ayep. Absoultely nothing including death and reainimation or transformation gets rid of curse

>>183673594
>>183673624
>tfw when I expand into lizards with my awake expander

>>183673674
i once expanded onto an impossible angle first turn with an awake doggo. Horror marked and attacked in the very same turn.

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Muuch muuch

>>183674154
How many of these are you getting man? Also what descriptions are you giving this person?

>>183674154

Ulm-chan p lewdly spread over there.

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>>183669175
The amount of spikes and the size of pauldrons on those dudes tells me that however made this modnation didn't know or didn't care about the very basics of the intricate Warhammer lore.

>>183675451
What do you mean? I would like to know more.

>>183675537
1. there are no spikes
2. the sprite is not 85% pauldron

>>183675613
The Chaos Warrior models are actually pretty modest, Chosen as well.

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>>183675613
Looks pretty close to me.

>>183675775
>>183675930
While the number spikes seems to vary, their pauldrons are still pretty big and the dudes in the Dominions pic don't seem to look as huge as the Warriors of Chaos who are built like Space Marines.

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>>183676217
They are a good bit bigger than a regular human.

>>183676512
They still need to be built like bears, Chaos doesn't accept thin champions, they have to be WIDE.

>>183676729
They are roughly twice as wide as barbarians.

>>183676991
WIDER! And put their heads lower, their necks are too long. Maybe this could make them look wide enough.

>>183677298
Nigga if they got any wider they'd start to look like dwarves. They are fine, he chaos warrior shield is bigger than a regular humans body for fuck sake

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>>183677491
No, anon, loo, clearly, the neck is the key to all this sorcery. Let me demonstrate with the pic related; the only difference between dudes is where their heads are. Those Dominions dudes have absurdly long necks for a Warrior of Chaos, so they don't look authentic enough.

>>183677298

Chaos warriors - the hidamaris of the edgy world?

Is it just me or did the mod nation games llama page disappear?

>>183680692
Looks like every game which was waiting for pretenders was wiped.

>>183681018

LLama isnt receiving turns either.

RIP llama

admins please postpone turns

>>183654068
So what's the plan since tzeentch keeps fucking up?

When a shape changer in human form goes to 0 hp does it revert to its natural form or just dies?

>>183683139
If a monster with two shapes dies in the shape with lower HP, it reverts to the other shape. If the damage is higher than the combined HP of both shapes, it just dies.

>>183683413
thank you

>>183682293
F

Postponed by 12 hours. If Llamaserver issues persist, will postpone another 12.

What happened to llama? I can't even fight "games waiting for pretenders" section.

>>183682938
If this can't be fixed or it's much of an annoyance I'm fine with being kicked out of the game.

llama don't die

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>>183686723
>mfw llama is alive again

>>183688165
I still don't see that modnation game though.

>>183684573
What happens is none of my business, and I'm in no real rush. Just want to stay in the loop and make sure I create my pretender under the proper mod .

ded

What are good communion slaves for wa t'ien ch'i, master of the dead or master of the way?

>>183694110
Masters of the Dead are usually busy spamming sacred ancestors.

>>183694110
What a coincidence, I decided to play EA T'ien Chi too, in SP. And I already got a their qt national heroine on the 2nd turn. Too bad it looks like she will be surrounded by sweaty men all the time.

Up again.

Game Page: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Modernizanation

v6 with fixed Tzeentch Armour:
https://mega.nz/#!cmJ11YoY!181jwkgvcC31iWSO2JUwEOR8AnAj88QEhKKkCIlI3oo

Submit those pretenders! I'll be extending the deadline to July 25th 1800 GMT.

>>183697878

Any other changes?

>>183700235
No.
Only the .dm is required if you had all the .tga files.

If Nino is your point unit I think people give out free defenses. I only got one last season with Doot on point, but just overnight, for the last few hours I got my only 3 defenses this season.

Treasure Nino.

Alright, I'm letting the thread die then.

>>183702659
Not on my watch you aren't.
TWICEBORN

ime doing anything on Llama while it's having issues, including delays, can have strange and unintended consequences. I'm going to avoid touching anything on the games I'm admining.

>>183702807
It's not having issues anymore.

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>>183702785
It only works in your own dominion, but you stepped into mine, pathetic mortal fool!

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Are D1 mages useful for anything at all? Can a Revenant do anything other than sitesearch UW for a land nation? I have no idea what to do with the non-undead fucks other than spam Frighten.

>>183703269
D/F can into bane fire darts and corpse candles. D/S can into nether bolts.

Otherwise you can give them each 1 death gems and cast a round of disintegrate, for example.

>>183703269
Dust to Dust is ok against undead.

Frighten or Raise Skeleton is better than nothing.

At least they are more useful than N1.

>>183704107
N1 can swarm. I'd say that's better than anything D1 can do.

>>183704107
>protection

>>183703269
I saw a camazotz repel a moragin champion 3 times doing nothing but cast raise skeleton.

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>>183703554
I don't want to spend 50 gems empowering a useless fucker into a lone evospammer tho.

>>183704107
N1 can at least Tangle Vines really early, and a C'tis Empoisoner gets more use out of Swarm than any of its D1 spells if you don't want to put a Skull Staff on it.

>>183703269
Raise skeleton, while not nearly as effective as other skelespam spells, is still nice for putting something on the battlefield. It adds up with enough mages.
With a gem, they can use disintegrate and spirit curse, which are both nice against SCs.
Dust to dust is useful against undead, too.

>>183704765
>empowering
Are you retarded? D1 can cast D2 spells that don't require gems if you spend a gem. Literally read the fucking manual.

>>183704883
>spending a gem to cast a D1F1 or D1S1 spell with a D1 mage

Read the conversation first.

>>183703269
Ghost Grip is like a worse stellar cascades. Still good when massed.

>>183704997
He's obviously talking about disintegrate spam.

>>183705048
And the previous conversation was about Bane Fire Darts and Nether Darts. If I'm at Alteration 8 I have better things to spend Death gems on than spamming a single target NRNegates with a bunch of low level shitters.

>>183703269
They can forge skelespam amulets, which you can hand to otherwise useless mundane commanders.

>>183705832
You're pretty dumb, anon.

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>>183706570

>>183707643
Nah, you're fine. He's just salty at his own lack of reading comprehension.

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Question for /domg/:

If your neighbor is staling or has inexplicably gone ai, do you immediately go for his provinces or do you keep him around as a buffer and attack in another direction knowing your rear is safe?

I often do the latter but always make sure to be ready to start a land grab if I notice other players gunning for the free provs.

>>183707643
I was talking specifically about D/X crosspaths, not the fact that you need to empower D1 scrubs. And frighten spam can be good as well.

>>183708373
I do both.

Ok, this is the 5th time I've sent in my pretender. I truly hope this is the last time, if there is a restart I will go insane.

>>183708468
Going for the free provs and snowballing is tempting but getting too fat off on an ai or staler is a surefire way to get yourself ganged.

>>183708396
>frighten spam can be good as well
I'm not convinced that Frighten spam really does cause morale checks if it isn't hitting very small squads or solo commanders.

>>183708816
>surefire way to get yourself ganged
Ganged by who?
7/9 players will say they will gang up on you then the newest player with start attacking you and no one else, then in turn all other one's will feed on the one attacking you.

This is /domg/

>>183709437
You should play vanilla Lemuria then. Their 1PD can rout like 60 people sometimes.

>>183708816
Just tell 1 other player that you want to share the staler with him, then while he's preoccupied eat both the staler and your weakest enemy.

>>183709864
I'll add D1 to my monolith thingy and see if it can rout squads that don't take damage.

>>183709629
t. Malakal

>>183708624
Don't worry anon. I will too.

>>183709864
>Their 1PD can rout like 60 people sometimes.
Seen it happen to me

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>>183710217
Reminder that ME is completely fair and balanced.

>>183710998
delet

So what is strategy in this game? What do you research? What unit types are best? What commanders are best?

How do you stop the AI from constantly taking provinces with flying units?

>>183710998
pffffft

>>183713073
IT DEPENDS

>>183713240
U kno thats really not helpful

>>183713603
Your phrasing is really not helpful as well. To learn the game you have to learn to ask the correct questions, anon. Try reading the manual first.

>>183713073
>So what is strategy in this game?
Yes.
>What do you research?
Mostly.
>What unit types are best?
As a rule, yes.
>What commanders are best?
Possibly.
>How do you stop the AI from constantly taking provinces with flying units?
You could just recapture them and send a small army or two to catch the flyers while you move on the enemy forts. Also, SP sucks.

>>183713073
>So what is strategy in this game?
Strategy in this game is like strategy in any other game: a plan of action designed to achieve a long-term or overall aim.

>What do you research?
I literally depends on what what paths your mages have. Usually you research the school that will give you the biggest combat advantage at the best timing.

>What unit types are best?
It's hard to compete with blessed sacred units.

>What commanders are best?
Mages. You want to be building a ton of those and only a handful of other commanders like scouts and leaders.

>How do you stop the AI from constantly taking provinces with flying units?

Cast Perpetual Storm.

>>183713073
>So what is strategy in this game?
Mostly, which spells you get and cast.
>What do you research?
Spells.
>What unit types are best?
Cheap ones, sacred ones, and strong ones. Preferably all at once.
>What commanders are best?
Mages, generally the mid-tier ones.
>How do you stop the AI from constantly taking provinces with flying units?
>AI
Just pump you PD up, AI can barely play the game anyway.

>>183713073
>So what is strategy in this game?
Attacking people before they snowball or while they snowball is the height of strategy in /domg/. Most /domg/ players cannot achieve that, unfortunately.
>What do you research?
It depends on your situation but mostly your nation.
>What unit types are best?
Smaller (size 1-3) units with lots of attacks.
>What commanders are best?
Depends.
>How do you stop the AI from constantly taking provinces with flying units?
PD, your own flying units.

>Malakal gets a 3 day extension in EarthAttack
>Turn is due today
>Gets another extension
Thanks, Malakal

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>>183713073
>stopping flying units
Province defence or good guessing is the only thing that stops flying raiders, outside of the storm global. Just recapture them once they're taken, really.

You research whatever will get you the spells/items you need to be effective. Research with a purpose. Your goals may change depending on your situation. If you start next to Ermor, for instance, you'll want anti-undead spells, and if you're next to Abysia or Marignon and have water mages, you want to be able to cast Rain.

You also generally want to get whatever will make you powerful in the long game.
MA Agartha, for instance, has very simple basic needs- they want Enchantments and/or Conjurations their national summons, they want Evocations for magma eruption, blade wind, and earthquake, and they want Construction for earth boots and skull staves.
There's many other things that are useful for them, but they will almost always want to grab these 3 things as soon as they can unless there's a more imminent need for something else.

>>183714825
>earth nation
>ignoring alt

>>183714917
Fuck, I forgot to mention the buffs. Earth Meld is really nice early game, too.
Marble Warriors and whatnot isn't quite as important for Agartha in my experience if you're going full statues thanks to already great protection, but if you're using lots of Living Mercury, Magma Children, and Umbrals it's god-tier.

>>183714743
Didn't llama die? Turns in both my games were extended.

>>183715365
>>183714825
how did you know i started a game as MA agartha..

>>183717632
It's a good nation and it's not bad for beginners

The real question is how do you know when to prioritize site searching vs. researching vs. using mage support in battle. Always fucks me up when I pick the wrong one.

>>183719042
You play MP for 5 years.

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Guys this is my first game with chain events.....Ist this bad?

>>183719042
Will your spell help you win the fight?
Use mage support
Will your research goal be reached in time for the fight if you research and not if you don't?
Research
Are the above not true and you can find sites?
Site search

How do you tell? Play MP for 5 years.

>>183719749
It's indie undead attacks if you don't have the throne and free undead if you do have the throne (and possible indie undead attacks anyways). It's not a huge deal, just potentially annoying.

Still missing pretenders for Tzeentch, Kirkostaculis (who I now believe was just memeing me), Lentia, Elludia, and Sargassia.

If anyone wants to play clowns, feel free to submit a pretender, since I don't think the original guy was serious.
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Modernizanation

>>183719898
I have the throne and I was afraid that this is a big stack.

>>183719982
Will submit my pretender when I get back home from work. ETA ~6 hours.
t. Sargassia

>>183719982
The link to the map goes to Desura and the link to the Modernizanation mod doesn't go anywhere.

Just recently started playing this game, and thought it was time to play on a large map with a dozen AI pretenders just to test it out
Big mistake, it's now in year 5 and the AI spends about 10 minutes thinking every turn, I think it's time to scrap this game and go back to 1v1s to test the nations out

are you playing this game on your fucking phone? lol
10 minutes thinking lol

>>183720881
Nope, currently my computer is spending 10% of its CPU power, also after 10 minutes of thinking there's another 10 minutes resolving every battle
Is this somehow connected to there being 4 UW nations who at this point must have several hundred thousand troops?

Right, I forgot that llamaserver indiscrimately parks http:// in front of any URL you give it for a mod.

>>183719982
>>183720563
Mod: https://mega.nz/#!cmJ11YoY!181jwkgvcC31iWSO2JUwEOR8AnAj88QEhKKkCIlI3oo
Fixed the map link too.

>>183720757
I know this feel bro. I would play more single player but for this.

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>>183719982
I'm in.

>>183722368
Miring that edit.

>>183722368
Hope you don't spawn beside Deyja bro.

>>183722904

I'd be way more worried about Doom.

>>183722904
Don't worry, I'll start next to a mountain with 2 wastes in my capring :^)

>>183722972
Whats doom got going for it anyway?

>>183723218

AOE rockets AOE plasma multiple projectiles chain guns with AP, huge chunks of HP and armor on their demons.

>>183723218
Literal rocket launchers, freespawn flying heads, and storm demons

>>183723369
They and Tzeentch should just kill each other.

>>183725135
Yeah, tell them to fuck off back to the future.

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>tfw your nation is Strabo-Balanced (tm) and you're likely to border nations that aren't

>>183725515
Tlahuelpuchis are much stronger than Strabo balance

>>183725515

Deya is p good for a Strabo nation (tm) Balanced nation (r)

>>183725515
Most of you are UW though so its fine.

>>183725662
2/5 are UW nations, the rest merely have amphibious recruits.

>>183725515
Sawaiiki seems about on the same level as most of the strabo nations, Deyja is probably stronger. Elludia has massive crippling disadvantages that make them seem really hard to play, Avernum seems to be really solid all around, but I'm not sure.
Tzeentch looks so strong that everyone is going to be incredibly wary of them.
Doom is kind of broken since the author is a hack.
Kirk is clowns.

My bet is on Avernum desu.

>>183726048
Tzeentch can have real trouble expanding that can fuck them over.

>>183726048
Tzeentch needs a shitton of resources early, as their troops have like 22 protection, but they really shine with their bullshit summons that kill entire armies by themselves (it's true for most WH nations, I think).

Doom is the opposite. They need no resources, but they have 0 protection on most units, and their late-game spells are just summoning of the same shit they already have.

Elludia is uhh... Interesting. They have 13 gold sacreds with two-handed swords and monster stats, but they're cap only, and they basically can only use indies from other forts. Mages have E1D2S4 maximum. Really weird nation.

Sawaiiki looks super weak without a bless. And still weak even with a bless. I didn't look over their summons though, maybe there's some bullshit there.

Deyja is a stronger Sceleria. Like, really bullshit-tier strong Sceleria. Without astral, but with access to native RoS and banefire. My bet is on Deyja, just because of infinite skeleworks along with super strong mages and liches with AoE magic attacks.

Clowns are bottom-tier in all modnation games, and I still don't understand why someone would pick them. What a cruel joke.

Didn't look over Avernum yet. Will do.

Elludia looks like it should go for N9 and go golems ASAP.

>>183727415

What if someone were to... spam unrest rituals on their capital?

>>183727627
That would be extremely painful.

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Man, Avernum's sacreds fucking suck.

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This is Elludia's sacreds for comparison.

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This is what you will have after 12 turns. No indies can touch those N9 ethereal 21 prot dudes with magic weapons. Basically, spamming unrest rituals might be the only option for a poor nation those guys decide to rush.

>>183727769
dat regen tho

>>183728459

Hard countered by slingers tho...

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>>183728459
The catdudes are better. Why ambidextrous without a second weapon, I have no idea.

>>183728543
ALERT

ALERT

DISREGARD THAT

2/MONTH MAXIMUM

ABANDON GAME

ABANDON GAME

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>>183654068
Modernizanation Admin pls

>>183728668
Download fucking hexawyr holy shit anon.

>>183728521
Just get an air bless my man.

>>183728668
This is on your end, nigger. Just download any hexawyr variant and put the .tga in your map folder.

>>183728668
What nation are you playing? Asking for a far more competent friend.

Avernum mages are really solid. Great diversity, out of the box golems, guaranteed S4. They would've been much, much better without summod RoS nerfs though.

>>183728857
>>183728898
But why didn't the admin include the .tga

>>183729065

Really? They got good cap only mages but the recruit anywhere are W2E1 and F2E1 or totally random and useless. Can't say they are very good.

>>183729078
God, you're retarded. Admin just set the map, map link was put there by some other dude.

Deyja's necromancers reanimate skeletons with upkeep. Sasuga Strabo.

>>183728330
>>183727965
I'm not going Bless

>>183729312
Then you're a fool.

>>183729261

Thats 100% intended, Necropolis isn't a freespawn nation, their undead cost gold.

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>>183729152
dude, lmao, you get THIS for 65 gold. Go magic 3 in vanilla and wreck shit

>>183729436

Thats the totally random mage I mentioned. What is it going to do for you? The chance for 2 in any path is 1/48. Good luck.

>>183729551
It's going to get me fucking golems in the second year.

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I find it funny that Avernum archers have protection 18/15 but really mediocre stats. And you have them in your capital PD as well.

>>183729436
Now tell me what to do, please. I'm tzeentch.

I know that the shielded axemen are great, but the twohanded sacred axemen seem a lot more fun.
How stupid would be N9? That would make the sacreds a lot bulkier.

>>183729551
Recruit anywhere 16 RP (assuming M3 scale) for 65 gold 2 Rec?

Aren't many better lab rats than that.

>>183729551
F/E spam magma bolts and craft you fire brands.

F/D spam banefire bolts and craft you flaming skulls.

F/W spam acid bolts.

A/D craft corpse constructs.

N cast swarm (though you already have a N1 mage).

Pure F cast phoenix power for 1 gem per battle and spam fireballs or flame pillars if we're late. F2 cast falling fires or fireballs etc.

Pure A cast storm power for 1 gem per battle and spam lightnings or what have you. A2 t-strike.

Pure W cast frozen heart. W2 cast, uhh, frozen heart and boost you into W big time, but you already have W2 mages, so whatever.

All others either spam something or just research and craft stuff for your golems.

>>183729947
I'd really hate for a warhammer shitter to win, but I'll think of something when I look up your summons.

>>183730245
N9 also works for the summons, thats why i thought of it.
Also horrors are great and shoot stuff, how about an air minor bless?

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These guys along with StR golem crafters will make Avernum the game.

>>183730172
And storm power is A1, and I'm an idiot.

Resourceful Vanarus does it again! 8 minutes away from stale #3.
Can you enable automatic force-hosting if a certain player is last to submit?

>>183729947
>cast unstable vortex
>????
>profit
>>183730479
If I remember right tzeentch has a bit of difficulty actually blessing things dont they? I also think I remember that they could bless non sacred things but I might be full of crap.

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>>183731402
They have those fags that have a cursed nodrop item that allows them to cast their version of blessing. And no, only sacred troops. Some of their commanders are already wearing armor that acts as a shroud, so they're autoblessed.

>>183730523
Makes me want to replay Exile 3.

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Also, in my version most of the troop weapons are fucked up real bad. Bug?

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>>183731402
Yeah they have to do this shit

>>183731801
Geneforge > Avernum.

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>>183731887
now this is serious

>>183723218
recruitables with bfg9000s.

>>183731890
good thing i didn't say avernum then nerd

>>183732451
Same difference.

>>183729646
Who actually has golems? You said Elludia first, now you're saying it's Avernum, but I don't see golems in the national summons or recruits for either of them.

>>183731828
Hmm, looks like Tzeentch had a bunch of weapon/armour IDs which it just depended on from other W40K races.

I caught the armours when you reported it last time, but anything with a chaos broadsword, a chaos axe, or a chaos battleaxe has a null weapon. IDK if they can even attack.

At this point, I'm not going to change the mod again, but I'm sorry I missed that, anon.

>>183732740
Sigh.

Please, find a spell called Golem Construction in the Dominions 4™ inspector. Please, look which magic paths are required to cast it. Please, look at the national mages of the aforementioned nations.

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no comments

>>183732958
Would be better as slaanesh.

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>>183732857
Some of their summons have that shit as well. I'm not Tzeentch, so I don't care.

>>183732857
>At this point, I'm not going to change the mod again, but I'm sorry I missed that, anon.
Enjoy your game literally crashing

>>183732873
Malakal, you're the only person in /domg/ who writes "sigh". That said, what's the big deal? They have the paths for it, but no more benefit to summoning them than any other nation with E-S gets. Furthermore they have better things to spend their pearls on than golems, in their national summons.

>>183732520
Exile had a much cooler spell and item selection than avernum.

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>>183733738
Please, name at least 2 worthwile things they can summon for pearls. The only thing I see is this dude which costs 18 pearls and can get E4.

>>183734675
The Hraithe: loads of magic for 18 pearls, and it can summon up to 6 national ghost units every turn for the cost of 10 popkill and heretic 3. Discounting the Shaman (which is good for its price, especially considering what Avernum has on rec-anywhere) as you obviously have, and ignoring the national ghosts because it's more economical to get them through the Hraithe, there's nothing else.

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>>183733596
Nah, the game actually handles that robustly.

>>183735725
>length 1
I wish I could see how Tzeentch bererkers will be fucked by fire shields.

>>183735586
I don't see how the fact that you'll be able to summon free ghosts per turn (hard-countered by wither bones lel) contradicts the fact that you can get regenerating SCs that you can kit with easy golems.

I suggest we all collude and gang up on Deyja right from the start.

Is there anything Sawaiiki can do that's interesting?

How many puns can we make off of it?

Deyja-vu
Deyjo-bu

>>183736438
They have an A1W1H1 StR cap-only mage who costs 210 gold and 13 resources.

>>183736897
Isn't his purpose to lead those shark warriors?

THREAD

I have discovered that the latest summod breaks LA xibalba in half

SUM1WON PLS FIX

>>183736227
Good, cheap troops serve a purpose that expensive SCs do not. Especially when the SC requires taking N9 on a nation with sacreds of dubious quality.

>>183737367
>>183737367
don't feel like making a github but blessing of limne is also broken

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>that guy who didn't take a bless for ragha

>>183740359
We already know I'm retarded.

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>>183740436
Fuck the haters, do whatever you think is fun.

>>183740751
Tbh I fucking LOVE man eaters.

>>183740837
is this the vorefag illuminati

>>183740926
A nation ruled over by a man-eater pretender is essentially that, yes.

Hey I like playing 1v1 and smashing tiny sprite men against one another. Any recommendations for maps or anything that improves singleplayer?

>>183741395
Latus

>>183741395
There should be a mod that makes the ai recruit more national troops instead of shitty indies all the time.

>>183741395
>anything that improves singleplayer?
Playing multiplayer.

>>183741395
Chocolate Thrones, Sites, Icelandic Magical Magic Mod, Magic Expanded, and More Temp Gems.

>>183741550
>>183742189
Are these lists of the worst things ever or what

>>183742189
>Icelandic Magical Magic Mod

wat

>>183744334
An old meme mod.

>>183741876
You mean ainorec, which has also been incorporated into summod and jbbm?

>>183743739
Latus is a huge map with awful balance. The mods mentioned are just fun. Chocolate Thrones/Sites increases the potential power of sacreds and the availability of summons/gems, Icelandic Magical Magic Mod increases the power of evocations in addition to other things, and More Temp Gems reduces the amount of micro for your armies. It also allows spamming Shadow Blast and other spells meant to be limited by gemcost.

The end result is that it expands the power of mages, which allows for even easier victories over the AI. Since the only enjoyment possible from SP is stomping the AI, it seems likely that people who enjoy SP will enjoy this result.

>>183737367
>I found a bug!

uh gonna need more detail than that.

>>183739516
yeah but its not fixing so I might need to just remove it.

>>183744875
What IS JBBM? I've seen it listed in a couple places but as far as I know no one uses it.

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>>183727069
Clowns, being a literal joke nation, are therefore objectively fun to play simply because they're a joke.
It's all about being the underdog and struggling against the odds.
Also, their flavor text is fucking amazing.

>>183745514
Whoever wrote them rocks. I especially like the amputee hero.

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>>183745604
The amount of effort put into the lore is impressive.

>>183745407
It's SA's summod, basically.

>>183745407
balance mod by jbereton used mostly at 10bux. It's got a lot of changes that mostly make sense to that community, but is otherwise pretty good.

>>183728664
>2 per month maximum
>on a sacred, which are already limited by candles
>it isn't even that good and costs 25 gold
>ambidextrous for no reason whatsoever
for what purpose

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>>183745604
>I especially like the amputee hero.
so does my dick

>>183746161
They can be recruited from every fort, I guess?.. Only 2 from every fort, but still.

>>183746161
Avernum is flavour-balanced to a tee.

>>183746235
>barely above your average elite human statline
>9 fucking protection
>9 MR
I mean I guess they're stealthy but they're pretty shit and 2 per month means they're a pain to mass

Avernum's troops are really, really bad. Humans cost a shitton of resources for below average stats. Cats are shit, lizards are shit, aliums are shit. Their mages are really good though.

Deyja thread.

So how does the earth snake do early expansion when it doesn't have any regen? what's stopping it from just meeting some barbarian swordsmen or heavy cavalry with lances and eating shit?

>>183748938
It WILL eat shit against barbarians. That's why you choose your targets wisely.

Besides, only scrubs use erf snek at all.

>>183748938
>>183749037

Awake expanders in general eat shit against barbarians and heavy cavs.

>>183749349
The only awake I saw doing great against everything was the C'tis soul crocodile.

>>183749468
You mean Devourer of Souls?
That nigga is so slow, has only one attack, and eats wounds like a bitch.

>>183750168
Nigga, go E9, then it will have 24 protection and fear fucking 16+.

>>183750278
Tru.

So I won an arena tournament, but I sent a Pretender who didn't have chest slot, got a "Champions Cuirass", and it seems to just disappear?

Is that how it works?

>>183750545
Yep.

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>>183750545
If you play without Better Arena, deathmatch is absolutely pointless.

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I thought that my nation had hidden potential
I thought that i could show everyone its hidden power and win the first AI bowl
I had been punished for my misdeeds
i will never pick Ur again

>>183748938
It's pure tank and recupreation

>>183751224
Have you tried playing less SP?

>>183751349
>this happens on a game
>they immediately go ai and ruin it

Great idea.

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>>183751481
>go ai
>ruin

>>183751349
I have more than 200hrs in dominions and i this is the first time i have ever seen this event
I dont think i have even seen more than 10 trolls together
It looks like i have been trolled

>>183752130
trolls r tough cookies

>>183752130
>200hrs in dominions
sweet summer child...

>>183752198
Assuming around 6hrs a day for the past 20 months, I'm at 3650.

>>183752885
>6hrs a day
Jesus fucking christ

>>183749468
Carrion Dankon
Memecelon
Sea Dragon

>>183752885
autism

theres nothing to even do in this game
how many hours can you spend on 1 turn per day???

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>>183753442
>open turn
>"lemme just look up all of my units and all of my opponent's units in the inspector real quick"
>"oh he's got that spell, lemme doublecheck the inspector/manual for how exactly it works"
>"gonna hit this research goal next turn, I wonder if I can cast/use any of the other spells in that tier"
>"I have forgotten every item in this construction tier"
>"what do I have to do to summon this?"
>set a new recruitment queue
>move a few units
>start scripting some battlemagic
>"I should check the inspector and see if there's a better spell for this situation"
>there isn't
>continue scripting
>assign gems
>reassign gems
>check nation overview
>"when the fuck did that guy get there and why isn't he doing anything"
>decide on a ritual
>reassign gems
>finish turn
>send turns
>second thoughts begin to set in
>should probably reassign gems

>>183753442
>>183752981
I think it's roughly 100 turns a month, averaging 7pbems or so at a time. I included many blitzes in the total count, those 9hr+ weekend days skew the average.

>>183754554
How often do you win?

>>183755265
I have never won a game.

>>183755510
Keep doing your best.

>>183755606
?
his best is obviously not good enough

>>183755732
Maybe he meant "keep playing games so I may win them easily".

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>>183755606
Always!

>>183755732
Your best will improve if you keep doing it.

>>183755510
Fucking HOW? You've played vastly more than I have.

>>183755510
I have like 1.8k on Steam, and I won around 12 or something.

what do you give gems to your mages for?
what does that do?
Is forging some plate armor for everyone a good thing?

>>183760153
Battlemagic. Lots of spells require gems.
See above
Usually not, but it can be helpful if you need to walk human mages into battlefield spells, like Earthquake and Rain of Stones. In general, you will usually have more important things to spend gems on

Did summod come from blitzes? I saw someone make that claim today, which sounds like bullshit.

>>183761228
The changes tended to be tested in blitzes before going to live. So it's more like blitzes were used to beta.

>>183761281
Yeah, this guy thinks it grew out of a blitz meta initially.

>>183763107
Nah, it was balance changes for PBEMs, with the win % thing used to get data to ground it. It was also heavily based on sum1's own experiences and the opinions of other experienced players that he talked to. Blitzes mostly were used to see if anything felt like it went too far, bug testing, and that sort of thing.

>>183763313
Yep, that's what I thought was going on at the time too. As I suspected, this guy is an idiot.

Last call if anyone wants to play clowns:

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Modernizanation

>>183764018
Fuck clowns, start without them.

>>183764018
>last call if anyone want to donate provinces to Chaos

How do you tell if you have undiagnosed autism?

>>183765450
Get diagnosed.

>>183765450
>>183754554

having a fucking screech at present

>>183765450
Play dom4, if you like it you probably do.

>>183752130
That's whay you get for vulturing provinces off of me.

>>183763107
The blitz meta is people trying out retarded builds that it would be a waste to try and field in a pbem.

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zzzzz

GIB
TURNS

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Orgrimmar update!

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2851

v0.94
- Grunt str 11->12, hp 11->12, att 10->11, mor 10->11, gcost 10->12
- Orc Berserker mor 10->12
- Raider str 11->12, hp 11->12, mor 10->12, gained a bite attack
- Kodo Rider str 11->12, hp 11->12, mor 10->12, gained a stronger bite attack
- Kodo Beast str 17->20
- Wyvern Rider str 11->12, hp 11->12, mor 10->12, prec 10->12, gained a bite attack
- Troll Batrider prec 10->12
- Orc Scout str 11->12, hp 11->12
- Orc Warchief str 11->13, hp 11->13, mor 10->12
- Shaman str 11->12, hp 11->12
- Far Seer str 11->12, hp 11->12, mor 10->12, gained a bite attack
- Witch Doctor D2N1 50%DN -> D2N1 100%DN 20%DN, now has #autohealer 1
- Shadow Hunter D1H2 100%SDN -> D1H2 100%SDN 50%SD
- Spirit Walker S1D2H1 100%SD -> S2D2H1 100%SD 10%SD
- Pack Leader str 12->13, hp 12->13, gained a bite attack
- Thrall gained a bite attack

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REEEEE stop bullying me!

>>183765298
>>183765413
Clowns arent that bad. I was clowns in the last modnation game and they are at least as strong as sawaiki, in not stronger.

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>>183773394
This.

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Alright lads, here it is:

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=JapeCulture

Summod+WH, everything else depends on what people want and how many join.

>>183774936
Better Arena, or I'm not going to do double turns and will always do my turns last.

>>183775002

>Better Arena

In what ways does it improve deathmatches? Better rewards?

>>183775152
Gives const 8 items as rewards, and you don't have to participate again if you win.

>Modernizanation failed to start.
Welp.
I emailed the admin of llamaserver about it, but without being able to reproduce the errors he's getting on my local install, I'm kind of lost.
I'm going to sleep on it. Sorry to let you lot down.

>>183775217
The guy told you about Tzeentch weapon numbers being fucked up.

So some big Pretender with 10 dominion can solo any size of indie stack? Is this good strat?

>>183776387
Well they might be able to take down any indies save thrones and few special indies. Indie mages rape face since they have max research.

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VARN update!

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=2859

v0.96
- Blaster dmg 8->12
- Short Range Blaster 10->12
- Electrolaser AP->AN
- Phasing Claw AP->AN
- Shocker AP->AN
- Emerald/Sapphire/Ruby Dragon enc 2->0
- Emerald/Sapphire/Ruby Dragon are sacred now
- New cap-only mage: Elemental Manipulator

>>183729551

It's 1/12 actually.

Unless you mean a specific path.

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>>183775217
>>183775638

What's the "Forrester Bob" pretender build I keep hearing about? Is it just the Lord of the Forest kitted out like your average SC or is there more to it? Does it work for turn 1 expansion?

>>183765450

>>183778696

>>183755510
So it isn't just me, bless
ganbatte ur best fellow winless

>>183779318
All you to win is Pan or Asphodel dual bless with 8 or less players.

>>183775217
Admin you silly nigger, what version of Tzeentch are you using? Those guys arent even using the right names on the weapons that come with the mod. Also a lot of their weapon numbers overlap with dooms stuff.
Try this shit out and see if it fixes it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQvrB13LOtaM2pxcUpzaDhDaWM/view

>>183761228
>I saw someone make that claim today
Where?

>>183780585
Also why did you feel the need to make the compilation so cluttered and hard to read?

>>183778696
It's not a build, its a story from one of the first dominions games played on this general. (which pretty much involved a lord of the forest kitted as an SC to beat back a couple blessrushing nations.

>>183779570
Actually all you need to win is join a noob game and convince half of them that you are their best friend.

>>183781591
Malakal tips.

Casting twiceborn

>>183785724
This thread dues faster than realms under burden of time.

>>183785850
Its clearly Abysian.

Is it too late to play the in the modnation game?

Probably>>183787025

>>183787025
Dont know, admins asleep. Who did you want to play as?

>>183787193
Wanted to play as Sylvania from warhammer.

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>>183787432
>play
>from warhammer

Does anyone know many size two units can I fit into one battlefield square? 3? Are the rules behind the sizes explained anywhere, or am I just blind?