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>[Chaldea Heat Odyssey ~Progress of Civilization~ Lite rerun]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20170720.php
>5* Artoria, 4* Marie, 4* Martha
Artoria is always on rate up
20/7 to 22/7 Everyone
23/7 to 24/7 Marie
25/7 to 26/7 Martha
27/7 to 29/7 Everyone

>[Chaldea Summer Memory ~White Beach of Healing~ Lite rerun]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20170712.php
>5* Tamamo, 4*Anne and Mary, 4* Mordred and 4* Kiyohime
Tamamo is always on rate up
21/7 to 22/7 Kiyohime
23/7 to 24/7 Mordred
25/7 to 29/7 everyone

>Summer event farming dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/rMyit

>News
http://view.fate-go.jp/
>English FGO has its own general for now, search /fgoalter/ in the catalog
>There are now costume options, Mashu is the only one available now
>Skill interludes for Astolfo and Arjuna, NP interlude for Geronimo, quartz interludes for Cu Alter, Jeanne Alter, David, Billy the Kid and Li Shuwen.

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Farming Guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_SlTjrVRTgHgfS7sRqx4CeJMqlz687HdSlYqiW-JvQA/htmlview?sle=true#

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/RA8Px5jz

>Friendlist Spreadsheet (last reset: June 29)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Materials, experience and event AP simulators
http://fgosimulator.webcrow.jp/

>Alternate Servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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WOOF WOOF
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Samson when
Noah when
Cain when
Saul as Lancer when
Moses when
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>>183642763
Fuck off
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My wife Musashi is so cute.
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What are MC's ideals? Does a self-insert even have one?
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Rider Witch when?
It would be neat if she showed up in Salem.
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Which servant has Fate done justice?
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>>183642978
He wants to protect everyone and obtain the power to do so.
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>>183642912
she's a slut
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>>183642978
Don't insult muh Roman. Guda had a shitfit at the end of Agartha over that with no other available dialogue choice so it's an irrefutable part of them.
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>>183643039
Emiya
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>>183643039
Cake.
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>>183642739
I thought it was Tenshi for a moment.
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>>183642986
Some millennium.
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>>183643039
Dantes
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>>183642903
What the fuck are you even talking about
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>>183642978
A world filled with traps.
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https://twitter.com/ayuayu1192/status/889282274797035520

this is for you pirate slutsfags
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How can Tristan be the referee if he can't even see?
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>>183642978
it's your ideals.
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>>183643198
Doujin when?
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>>183643039
Hassan i Sabbah
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>>183643198
What does this expression mean?
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i love my mama ~
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>>183643198
I'm getting tired of the inverted nipples meme.
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>>183643198
C92 can't come fast enough. But when it does I won't come slow enough.
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>>183643335
A wish to die.
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>>183643335
He got his tatter tots softly messaged.
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>>183643350
t. homosexual
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>>183643335
The pleasure of cumming outside.
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>>183643335
Maybe his butt hurts
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>>183643335
anyone find it embarrassing to see (you) making such lewd faces?
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>>183643198
Nice. Glad they are getting plenty of love.
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>>183642978
Idiot
Shit magus
But gutsy about everything

Moriarty asks if guda knows how to beg for their lives in a tight spot, da vinci says guda sucks at that since they bet their lives on every thing

In babylon you ask ishtar to throw you at quetz to imitate a wrestling move.

Guda is basically a fucking idiot who never thinks about anything too deep, trusts everyone, has a lot of guts, and accepts everyone. Standard shonen protag. If hakuno is the cold, methodical, and knowledgeable self insert; then guda is the hot, unthinking self insert. You're just a nobody who was scouted for a magic Institute, and joined on a whim.
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>>183643342
What do you do when your mama shrinks?
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When do you think he'll appear?
Also will he hate you for defiling logic?
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>>183643450
>implying i'm a dumb male master
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>>183643450
Gudao is his own character so end this self insert meme.
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>>183643248
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>>183643528
>Gudao is his own character
nice meme
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>>183643450
No. I'm a dumb male master for a reason. I'm a dumb.
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I want to sleep on the palm of Kiara's hand!
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REMINDER.
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>>183643528
Must be the most bland character around then.
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>>183643573
The OVA mad it canon that he's his won character. Nice try self insertfag
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Who wrote Nero's route in Extella?
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>>183643640
Probably some bum they dragged off the street.
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>>183643603
I thought Ushi wanted her brother not (you).
And I thought Tamamo wanted (you).
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>>183643603
FUCK OFF SERENITY
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>>183643525
Archimedes will be the helper servant in Part 2's Greek order and he'll love (You) so much he'll literally perform oral sex on Guda on-screen. Screencap this post.
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What happens to sumanai? That's his end? Gets a shitty master and dies on episode 4
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>>183643640
Me
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>>183643640
Nasu wrote all of Extella's main story.
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>>183643640
Nasu was the main writer for the whole game but Sakurai helped here and there.
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Post your cutest George
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Best outfit for this JK fox?
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>>183643603
Still no update with Agartha servants?
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>>183643691
Tamamo only wants Hakuno
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>>183643603
I can't speak for anything else but I can agree with Mordred's position on this.
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>>183643726
>>183643731
b-but muh sakurai boogeyman
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>>183643717
Someone has to be the Medusa of each series.
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>>183643717
Lives on in seig

Archers arm shirou situation, except he talks to him a bit in dreams
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>>183643691
Don't believe everything you read here
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>>183643603
>Nobu being anywhere above the 50% of the sex line
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>>183643516
Non-autistic Ushi when?
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>>183643525
Extella 2 limited pick-up or Extella 2 Event gacha.
He'll become as tsundere for (you) as he is for Liz.
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Did Sakurai write the Nero wank in Extra too?
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>>183643603
Fuck off. I have Mordred at bond ten and we have sex every night.
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>>183643797
I don't think I can trust that chart anon.
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>>183643525
He's the only guy I'm even saving Quartz for. Hopefully not in 2017 because the track record for Servants has been very poor this year.

It'd only make sense for him to hate [you] and only be giving lip service in his bond lines and stuff but knowing FGO he'll go OOC since we can't have any Servants who don't love [you]. I have no clue how they'll justify it outside of maybe Da Vinci keeping him on a leash.
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>>183643198
Noice
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>>183643780
Only Nasudrones seek to always blame someone else. It can't possibly be him. No no that can't happen.
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>>183643809
Read gudaguda2, or her last bond line
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>>183643137
Who is Argon Coin?
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>tfw pic became irrelevant
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>>183643748
First or third, depending on your taste.
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/fgog/ I have a question why does the app downloads something everytime I start the app now? It didn't start happening until today. Also it's giving me this screen
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>>183643823
But that's almost half her charm.
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Why do people shit on Slowbro? Last i checked he was a nice lad.

Yeah, He was reddit but he wasn't the type of guy that shitposted around just for the sake of it. Also he wasn't even the jackfag, there are like 15 people in this thread that also have her 100 10/10/10, So why do you keep shitposting about her?
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>>183643979
lefft
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>>183643823
There is no such a thing like a non-autistic servant senpai.

>>183643826
Corroed Liz when?
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>>183643998
t.slowbro
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>>183643906
The Golden Fleece.
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>>183643998
Who?
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>>183644072
I don't think the Golden Fleece is a person unless we have Nasu Bullshit going on once again
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>>183643998
he is cancer
go away spic
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Guan Yu 5* when lads?
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Xth for Best Pirates

I hope you are having a good night /fgog/

Did you roll what you wanted?
Who are you hoarding for?

>>183643198
It looks like shit, like every doujinshi of the anime girls i like.
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>tfw can't be assed to do the challenge quests or buy the 4* fous
God they're such shitty """rewards"""
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>>183643998
Literally who
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>>183644156
Why didn't you post the grill?
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>>183644131
It's got a spirit living in it, like that dumb horse in Currybutt's pile driver.
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>>183643879
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>>183643691
Tamamo want (You) only as cat/lancer
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>>183643979
It asks if you want to clear the cache, and you say yes, so it has to redownload assets it needs
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How legit is this?
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>>183644281
You mean cute horse.
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Was Achilles a bad person?
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>>183644324
It's fake.
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>>183644324
It's fake
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>>183644387
>>183644415
Post proof
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Hello, Im much remember need of information of how to play emulate game pleased?
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>>183644370
Was anyone in Troy not an a-hole?
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>>183644370
The worst.
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/JeanneAlter/ thread.
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>>183643505
That's a good way of describing the difference between the MCs. Good job, anon.
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>>183644423
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>>183644447
Hector
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>>183644064
>>183644109
>>183644152
>>183644249

But why?
He wasn't even the one that keeps jetposting and falseflagging.
There are worse people than him here and i can't see you complaining about them, I mean this general is basically discord's dump.
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>>183644447
>a-hole
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>>183644370
More like an asshole than a bad person desu.
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>>183644387
>>183644415
Which ones are coming? Are my quartz safe?
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>>183644530
>trying to shitpost
go away facebook
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>>183644370
He was just an asshole
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>>183644530
Fuck off slowbro.
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>>183643998
He's a literal pedophile, and a pretentious one on top of that. Human scum.
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>>183644578
Nero and Raikou are confirmed. Rin is the welfare.
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>>183644530
Literally who is that faggot. Actually I don't care just fuck off.
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>>183644534
Asshole. Was anyone who participated in the Trojan War not an asshole?
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>>183644681
Hector's family and to a lesser extent Odysseus moreso after his Odyssey development.
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Tsubame Gaechi BTFO
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>>183644586
u mad bro?

>>183644594
Not him
>>183644602
>He's a literal pedophile
Yeah, like everyone in 4chan you fucking dofus.
>>183644656
Hey Mel
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>>183644767
But Paris was a total selfish asshole.

Archer or Assassin Paris when?
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>>183644214
your standards are just too high
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>>183644767
Paris was a faggot
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>>183644794
>that animation
KEK

NEWS WHEN?
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>>183644794
3 consecutives hits without even moving her sword. How can Sasaki even compete
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>>183644794
delete this
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>>183644767
>That time Odysseus tried to convince everyone he was insane so he wouldn't have to go to war.
Guy just really didn't want to be there. Understandable given how much of a stupid war it was.
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>>183644794
O
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>>183645092
MY
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>>183645153
MANA
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>>183645042
Yet Odysseus actually stepped up to the task once they took him along. If he weren't around, nobody would've even stepped off the damn boats.

Odysseus is based.
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>>183645173
PRISMS
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BIG NEWS should be today.
Prove me wrong if you can
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>>183643603
It seems like more and more creep towards the top right every time it's posted.
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>>183645182
Definitely the irony of the whole war. If it wasn't for his tactics that shit would have gone on forever.
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>>183645304
It can't be trusted. And since no one here actually plays the fucking game it can't be validated.
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Why doesn't the fgo subreddit separates na from jp? It was already bad to browse that thing, now it's unberable
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>>183645042
Didn't someone put his kid in front of him while he was farming or something, so that if he didn't admit he was faking he'd run them over and kill them?
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>>183644681
Arkantos besides ditching his son & his people.
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>>183645236
why is she so beautiful bros
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I wish I could draw, because last night I got a mental image of Martha and Yan Qing fighting on a budokai stage from summer part 2 with Caligula, Beowulf, Nightingale and all the other fist fighters cheering with Sasaki in the side with a martha t-shirt and a big foam hand on.
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>>183645236
>rerun lasts until Friday
>anniversary happening this weekend

No news until wednesday or friday
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>>183644951
Not at all, I used to fap to shit like uziga waita on highschool.

My actual top 5(Not in order) is
Onizuka Naoshi
Mogg
Locon
Benantoka
Mizu
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>>183645417
Yes. he hooked an ox and an ass to the same plow so it would never plow straight but they put his infant son in front of it and he had to give up. Quite possibly the only time he has ever been outsmarted.
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>>183645506
smart big butt poster
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>>183645506
Dumb bbshitter, they have to announce the stream this week.
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>>183645348
I play
I just can't read
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>>183645468
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>>183645501
Then practice hard enough until you can
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>>183644259
someone told me to fuck off so I changed the picture

>>183644834
its from an upcoming doujin/artbook, the unblurred version looks awful, search the achive for the source site. its got a preview on it

atleast raikou and schez in it looks awful
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>>183645468
Servant when?
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Why is this allowed?
https://files.catbox.moe/30vg5o.mp4
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>>183645509
>locon
Top tier taste
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>>183643075
Good. Nobody talks shit about my dead waifu either, I can respect Guda.
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>>183645742
Nice trojan.
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>>183645742
They're just doing their jobs, anon. Cut them some slack.
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>>183645742
>10 pull
goddamnit
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>>183645182
>>183645042
>Achilles and Odysseus don't want to be in the war.
>End up being some of the most important players anyway.
Greeks sure love irony.
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>>183645742
jesus fucking christ delete this shit this is offtopic
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>>183645742
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>>183645742
Because aniplex of america.
They are the worst branch of aniplex since Blood + finished and they couldn't even hold the braces and represalies of the jp branch.
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>>183645742
That girl in the middle is obviously showing her cleavage
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>>183645742
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I want a shielder athena. They made Quetzalcoatl a servant, they can do it with athena.
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>183645618
Thank you kind anon.
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>FGO eventually introduces Saver class
>Half damage from everything except Shielder
>Weak to nothing
>Non-playable, boss fight only
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>>183645742
Im not watching this shit

Did they get Gil?
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>>183645742
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>>183646041
Zeus when?
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>>183646041
Athena gets Lancer instead

NP is Palladion(true)
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>>183645742
i know theyre probably only coworkers and dont even like fgo but this made me wish i had friends to spend my quartz with
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Thor when? They used his card on prisma just put him in already
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>>183645886
The gods are complete assholes tho.
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>>183646064
>implying
>Counter Hero (対英雄) reduces the parameters of the statistics of 'heroes' that the Servant faces in combat. It is featured as a Class Skill of the Saver Class.
>At Rank B, it reduces all of the opponent’s parameters by two ranks. It’s weaker against anti-heroes, reducing their parameters by one rank.
Savers will have Crab tier damage reduction. Hope you're ready to have to make correct dialogue choices to pass the fight
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>>183645742
IT BROKE.
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>>183645742
>cringy as hell and hard to watch
>none of them even pull Gil

What's the point?
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>>183645742
I bet you 30 quartz that curry woman would whale on either arjuna or karna.
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>>183646337
Disney would force them out of business if they did that.
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>>183646421
>pull
I pull your dick mememan
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>>183646437
Is that so?
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>>183646437
If they could copyright mythology they would have sued them already for Herakles
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How different would FGO be if Da Vinci had remained male (but young for fujobucks) and Roman was the genderswap (via wish making Solomon a girl or traditional genderbend)?
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>>183645742
bro dem tits are fucking amazing
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Part 3 when?
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Whats his role in Apoc?
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>>183643198
Delicious pirate treasure.
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>>183645578
Same. Feels bad.
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>>183643039
Nero Claudius
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>>183645742
>royalty-free music
AHAHAHAHAH
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>>183646843
Encouraging Jeanne to suck dragon dick.
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>>183646759
I would march down to DW HQ and read the entirety of the Old Testament in broken Japanese.
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>>183646932
She needs encouragement?
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>>183646843
S U M A N A I
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>>183646759
Da Vinci would have been a pervert who keeps calling people he wants to fuck after famous paintings, either his or Mike's. Still a genius. Probably would make some otaku commentary about shitty anime artstyle.

Roman would be either tsundere for Da Vinci or they'll ditch that completely for Merlin, Marisbilly, or (you). If it's Marisbilly, she'll project her former relationship with him with yours and Mashu as wishes for Mashu becoming more human thanks to it. Her design wouldn't change, except she'll be given a short skirt because apparently, women don't wear pants in Fate.
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>>183646843
Shakes summons him to mindbreak Jeanne but instead he convinces her to go after the dragondick
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>>183645742
>0:29
man I love when big titted ladies are conscious of it and try to hide her huge juggs
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>>183647095
>apparently, women don't wear pants in Fate

They totally can.
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>>183646932
Despite the memes, she didn't really want to pursue her humanity or love. She's the same as Arthuria, except without regrets. She had no need for love or humanity, she was fine just doing her job. Gilles told her she's already fulfilled her role, she can go back to just being human.

Gilles was a phantom of a heroic spirit that Shakesphere summoned to mindfuck Jeanne, but I think he ended up rebelling.
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>>183645742
Speaking of Aniplex of America, did anyone upload part of the stream where the SEAnigger MC acted like an ass
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New FGO mats in c92 right?
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The crazy BBA is at it again.
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>65 tickets
>270 quartz
>have Archer Saber already from last year

Should I go for NP2? It sounds extremely greedy on my head all things considered but it's so tempting, supports with NP2 seems to hit quite a bit harder for some reason and the make her able to heal and NP at the same turn in many situations.
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>>183647356
Depends on which node you farm in c92. Drop rates should be higher though.
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5 Facts about Jeanne Alter!

1. Jeanne Alter is cute!
2. Jeanne Alter is loyal!
3. Jeanne Alter is top tsun!
4. Jeanne Alter is wifey!
5. Jalter!
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>>183647676
is this a sequel to the one where Scathach walks in on Guda masturbating to her and then fucks him in the Amazon position
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>>183647832
Yes,this time she crucified him after he fainted from previous session
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>>183645742
>Anthony has EX luck and rolled Jeanne Vlad and Altera
wtf bros IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>183647676
I'm only just realizing that with the new costumes, sweater Scat is actually a very real possibility now.
DW please.
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>>183647832
It's reverse rape all over again.
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>>183647978
she'll definitely have an outfit within a year
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>>183647783
>>>/reddit/
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>>183647783
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>>183647356
aye
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What did they mean by this?
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Gareth-chan when?
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>>183648368
armpit-pussy
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>>183648368
Anon, this is a Christian board. Please delet
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>>183647783
>5. She'll join Sieg's Jannu harem

Fixed that for ya.
>>
What can Math do to a person?
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>>183648756
>someone drew this unironically
>there are people out there that like Sieg
Disgusting.
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Why did these stop again?
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I actually felt sad about Sumanai now that I've watched it with subs
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>>183649165
I can't wait for girl Jesus.
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>>183648472
Armpits are SFW
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>>183649089
sumanai
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>>183649165
Because no god in their right mind would bless America.
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>>183649165
Nobody makes OC here anymore. People that try are forced to watch the general drive it into the ground because "LE FUNNY MEME xDDD REPOST EVERY THREAD SO FUNNY HAHAHA :DDDDD"
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>straws
What did he mean by this?
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News in 5 (five) hours
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>>183649165
>>
Is there any servant you've never seen grailed to 100?
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>>183649593
kek that lancelot one
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>>183649292
Pretty much this

Can't do anything here anymore without driving someone to have an autistic attack, all our translators gave up as well.
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>>183649593
>that list
Merlin was a mistake
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>>183649725
Mashu
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I miss pre 2017 f/gog.
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>>183649725
Solomon
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>>183649593
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>>183649593
>Artoria ahoge on bottom right
kek
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Mizuryu Kei servant when?
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>>183649832
/fgog/ is dying just like the quality of F/GO is dying. If any other game had a year this bad they'd be dead, but that fucking Fate brand keeps the mindless drones called whales spending money.
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>>183649725
Funnily enough, i never seen a Lv 100 vanilla Artoria
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>>183648756
>>183649089
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>>183649878
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>>183645742
Are those the best tits in Aniplex of America?
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>>183649958
How old, that artist still makes Jannu fanart?
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>>183649958
>tfw no Servants to watch movies with
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Oh boy, it's doomsaying hour
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>>183650098
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Man I can't change into this new mystic code no matter how much I swipe on the master screen.
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>>183649242
I want to copulate with this onee-san.
>>
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2017-06-30/how-to-get-into-fate-grand-order/.118213

wtf 5* summer EMIYA confirmed
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>>183650134
Edison would probably enjoy films. Riyo Rabbit too.
>>
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2796889
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>>183649878
>Pornz? :3
Haven't seen that in a while.
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>>183650379
0_o
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>>183649954
If you don't like it you can leave. I'd say one of the issues driving these threads down are the people like you who think they can't leave for some reason, so they just act bitter and shitpost towards Fate all day for still existing. A hobby is something that you aren't forced to do, you're here willingly. Either stop being a tsundere or figure out how to quit this franchise.

inb4 screaming either drone or shill for pointing out the obvious.

Other things fucking things up in here is "general culture", namefags even though we don't call them that, dedicated shitposters, thread personalities, Reddit/Facebook/(insert unrelated website we're supposed to hate) namecalling and shitposting all day, and all that garbage. Apparently you can't have a general thread without it devolving into this kind of mess. Half the thread is basically always just trying their hardest to get (You)'s.
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>>183650505
Whoa nice projecting there. I'm merely commenting how 2017 has been a bad year for F/GO and this general.
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>>183650505
/fgog/ was at its worst with the Zero event and the aftermath, it's been pretty bad this year but it still hasn't reached those levels
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>>183650505
>Half the thread is basically always just trying their hardest to get (You)'s.
That's what happens when there's no new content.
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>>183650419
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>My first 'Super Success' after a week
Fucking Kotomine still pissing on Kiritsugu to this day
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>Dantesfags (aka Gilfags) are PCucks
NOT EVEN I CAN MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>>183650941
Why is he asking about the PC release when it's already announced to be out in the 25th?
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>>183650941
>Jetfag hates computers
n-nani?!
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>>183650505
tsukihime cuck BTFO
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>>183650419
https://twitter.com/amanatsu_mikan7/status/889171566478598144
Nice
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>>183651267
that's my wife!
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>>183650379
>10-rolling
AHAHAHHAA WHAT A SHITTY GUIDE
>>
Alter Ego when?

>Len NP
10/10 would grial
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>>183645742
>Anthony from Aniplex hasn't killed himself yet
>haha alright mongrels
>hello my fellow mongrels
>DUDE MONGRELS LMAO
>they don't even get Gil in the end
What kind of marketing tactic is this?
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>>183650378
Scathach is smelly!
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>>183651089
He's a spic so he can't afford a good computer.
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>>183651546
But... she will love (you)?
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>>183651523
>statistically superior in every way than singles
>inferior
??
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>>183651661
Do you have the Tohno Gland?
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>>183651581
>they didn't even initially translate "zasshu" as "mongrel" and had to go back and edit the script like they did with umu
>>
Which servant grew on you?
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>>183642903
Fuck off weak minded fuck.
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>>183651997
Tamamo lancer. I never gave a shit about Tamamo until her.
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>>183651621
She will accept anyone for free.
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>>183651997
Nitocris.
>Rolled her in Prisma Collab
>Grew on me slowly and saw her own the Hassan fight in Nero event
NOW EVERYONE LOVES NITOCRIS
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>>183651997
Stupid JK Fox.

HAI~ HAI~
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>>183652112
This reminds of a low-budget hentai.
>>
>>183651997
medusa
>>
>>183651997
tamamo lancer
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>>183651997
Lancer Vlad, I severely underestimated his damage
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>>183645742
Got a higher quality vid? I want to fap to tits mcgee over there
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>>183652087
Autism
>>
>Be DW
>Make decent challenge fights with Dantes, Valentine, and Raid events
>Decide to make bullshit "challenge" fights for swimsuit rerun

What were they thinking? These aren't fun in the slightest nor interesting.
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>>183652450
Summer wasn't fun or interesting in the slightest. They're just being consistent.
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>>183645742
>all these 3DPD loving normalfags replying
Disgusting
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>>183650378
Scathach isn't an onee-san she's an ane-san
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>>183651997
Mary. I didn't really care about her until I learned how to use her properly since I needed a Rider to farm bond shortly after Camelot came out. Since then she's been my number one Rider.
>>
Please tell me siegfried is gonna come back
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>>183652618
Sumanai anon
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>>183651997
Tamamo Lancer
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>>183652543
She's an obaa-san.
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>>183651997
Everyone in the core cast of CCC's event, since they barely had any time to shine before that but particularly Cat, Gawain and DEMIYA.
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>>183650379
Isn't this from that infamous UBW reviewer?
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uhhh medbkeks
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>>183652434
Fuck off weak minded fuck.
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>>183652618
He's gone.
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>>183652543
BBA
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>>183650379
>hey guys can I bandwagon into Fate now xD!
that girl is just pathetic at this point
>>
>>183651997
Tamamo Lancer. I got her rolling for Mordred the last year, and since I dont give a fuck about Tamamo I got pretty dissapointed when i did not get Mordred, but later on i started to like her because of her nice animations, funny lines and great gameplay value
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>>183651997
You really have to ask?
These two have been carried the shit out of me since I rolled them. Not for nothing I have them fully maxed, I still need to work on archer anne.

>>183652564
Do you have me on your friend list?
If not
795,450,051
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>>183652798
Second google result for her name is a reddit post saying she's the only "otaku journalist" willing to talk about the "problematic" parts of F/SN and leads to this
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/fate-stay-night-unlimited-blade-works/episode-12/.82711
So I guess so.
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>>183652813
>Boudica instead of Nero
NERO UTTERLY BTFO
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>>183651664
Except that statistic is wrong??
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>>183651997
Kiyohime. I dislike yanderes, but somehow she had all my attention.
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>>183652856
>>183652752
I love the surge of Scathach femdom
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Really gets the noggin joggin
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>>183653000
By all means, present your mathematical proof.
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>>183652536
Says the 3d autist
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>>183652813
Medbfags aren't in denial about being into NTR though, they're chill.
>>
>>183652987
Its actually Boudica side-to-side with Nero.He show it in his drawing stream before.
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>>183653159
>3d autist
What 3d autist?
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>>183653104
>inb4 by killing the masters
>"Lancelot was too strong. One of them could easily take out other servants"
>GILKEK BTFO
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>>183652968
> (2038 posts)
Jesus
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>>183653251
If you want to become 2d without being a chuuni then hurry
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>>183653107
>master1200
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>>183653306
Anon, I don't think you understand.
Ea gg
>>
Never watched/read anything related to this series does it even matter?
>>
>>183653479
You can play the game fine without knowing anything about the franchise, but you won't enjoy it as much. Specially in the character interaction department.
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>>183653419
Is there a problem?
>>
>>183653479
Read CCC, Nasu's magna opus.
It even has the complex theme of human identity and other meaningful topics.
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>>183653107
No, I don't have mathematical proof
But from my experience, I've gotten much more gold servants by singles
I have seen many anons here claim that most of their SSR came from random singles too
Here's some of my recent story tho
>camelot pick up
>10 singles
>second roll is Tristan and tenth is Lancelot
>summer second pick up
>10 singles
>5th roll is Marie, literally the next roll is Artoria
Meanwhile you probably only get 1 or 2 SR CE from 10 roll
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>>183653701
>I don't have mathematical proof
>But from my experience
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>>183653701
>that statistic is wrong
>here's my anecdotal evidence to prove it wrong
zzz
>>
>>183653770
>>183653796
Not him but doesn't take a monkey to figure out that 10 rolls are objectively better. You could throw 20 rolls and get no 4* while the chance isn't there like 10 rolls. No matter what you say, you're statistically wrong just from that.
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>>183653907
Anon, they were arguing in favor of Singles, not in a 10 draw.
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>>183653701
>No, I don't have mathematical proof
>But from my experience,
>>
>Q: What are the rarity rates in the quartz gatcha?
> 3*Essences: 40% 4*Essences: 12% 5*Essences: 4%
> 3*Servants: 40% 4*Servants: 3% 5*Servants: 1%
>The mostly agreed upon theory for 10 rolls is:
> One of the ten cards will have these rates (guaranteed servant):
> 3*Servants: 96% 4*Servants: 3% 5*Servants: 1%
> And another of the ten cards will have these rates (guaranteed 4* card):
> 4*Essences: 92% 5*Essences: 4%
> 4*Servants: 3% 5*Servants: 1%
> The other 8 cards will have normal rates.
> The guaranteed servant and the guaranteed 4* may be the same card in some cases.


So is it really smarter to do 10 rolls?
>>
>>183653770
>>183653796
You can do it however you like really
But personally, I will never ever again 10 rolling no more
But don't come up here anymore and complaining you get nothing from your 10 rolls, which I've seen too many here
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>>183653965
>>183653770
>>183653796
Fuck my bad then, I'm tired as fuck
>>
>>183654021
Yes.
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>>183654021
It's a very small discrepancy, almost insignificant, between the rates of getting anything good but it's still always better to do 10 rolls.
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>>183654021
Does someone here actually stick to single rolls even when burning quartz?
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>>183652968
That review wasnt that bad
>>
>>183654465
Wrong one.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/fate-stay-night-unlimited-blade-works/episode-0-2/.80081
>>
>>183654021
not for this f2p ass
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>>183654021
A lot of people call bullshit on this, but all of my 5* servants were from singles and i have 11 of them, 12 if we're counting a jannu dupe. If there's anything i got from 10 rolls, it was stheno and siegfried.
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>>183654653
i even forgot to add the fact that im full f2p
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>>183654653
Pretty much all of my golds came from last minute singles, I'm pretty sure only Ana and Tamamo came from 10 rolls.
I still do 10 rolls in hopes that I'll someday get that one amazing roll that gives you multiple gold Servants though. ;_;
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>>183654653
>>183654763
So what? Throwing a 10 roll is objectively still better. You just got lucky by probability too.
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>5* is 1%
>which means 1 in every 300 quartz
>while I got pic related from 210 quartz
>all in singles
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>>183654653
>>183654864
Shit, I got a bad run with 10s but with singles and tickets I always get what I want
>>
>>183654961
10cucks BTFO beyond belief how will they ever recover
>>
>>183654885
this artist seems familiar
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>>183654961
So what? There are people right now that pulled 5 SSRs in 10 rolls. Throwing a 10 roll is objectively still better. You just got lucky by probability too.
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>>183654885
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>>183655028
>pulled
McFucking kill yourself faggot
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>>183655075
The general term in the mobage world, filthy EOP. Too baby to handle the term?
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Stop. Please stop talking about statistics/probability with your shitty anecdotal evidence that's not even an SRS
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>>183655028
>uses pull
>but uses roll in the exact same sentence
How do I become this stupid
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Reminder of Marie's true nature.

>Tamamo: [Grouchy] “Ehh? The piglets’ concert… Nah, Tamamo-chan doesn’t care, so I’ll pass.”
>Marie: “No.”
>Tamamo: “Eh? But I don’t want to. I don’t think it’d be fun to listen to those piglets singing.”
>Marie. “No”
>Tamamo: “Uhm, could it be that you’re readying that beach ball in order to…”
>Marie: [Cheerfully] “That’s right! I’ll shove the invitation in your pocket after knocking you out!”
>Tamamo: “MIKO-------N!”
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>>183643505
I'll take the hotblood part. I like the funny answer given to Guda.
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>>183655129
It's just that I don't give a fuck, I have the freedom to use whatever the fuck I want, I'm not a mentally disabled shit like you apparently.
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>>183655216
Oh, so you're in an individual too? Impressive...
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>>183655028
>pull
Reddit
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>>183655168
marie is kind while tamamo isnt
got it
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>>183651997
WHASSAP MY HOMIES.
NA GO has made me appreciate this cake tank more.
Also Chev.
Wtf I love France now
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>>183643198
Cannot wait for these. Been almost two years and they were never given a doujin or too much art, what happened? is it because now there are new artist getting know these characters in 2017?
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>All these idiots right now thinking meme rolls were ever more than a stupid meme and waste their quartz like that uninronically
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>>183655319
>WHASSAP MY HOMIES.
>making Marie into a nigger
Awful.
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>>183654973
>>183655028
>>183655115
Statistics/ player experiences aside, it all comes down to luck anons, cant roll 5*s on 10 rolls or singles if you have shit luck
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>>183655168
>Marie - wants you to have fun
>Tamamo - stubborn, dumb jackal that doesn't like fun
I understand completely.
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>>183655115
>>183655358
I started recording my rolls a while back and it's obvious that the 10 rolls are better. throwing out both good and garbage rolls on the 10 side to keep the numbers even
>450 trials isn't shit
I'm only one autist.
>5* CE
my luck with those is weird
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>>183655342
>idiots
I think you meant to say "weak minded", autismo.
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>>183655294
>>183655246
Fuck off mentally weak fuck.
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>>183655342
I am f2p so meme rolls is good for me
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>>183655113
This argument is dumb but go 回る yourself off a cliff, liar.
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How many actual Schezfags exist
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>>183655450
>>183655460
Ahahahahahahahahahah
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>>183654527
This is not that bad ether. I was very optimistic about the adaption during the first episodes too.
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>>183654961
>which means 1 in every 300 quartz
that is not how stats works you nigger
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>>183653701
>anecdotal evidence is proof
/fgog/ please stop
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>>183652968
>>183654527
>muh problematic depictions of women
>muh toxic masculinity
Why do people like this exist, and why do they write for a supposedly big anime site?
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>>183655613
Ummm yes it is
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>>183655493
俺に向かって回るってだけの言葉を使って挙句、嘘つきまで呼ぶとは。とんだ間抜けと豚野郎ね
Try to form something more than a word next time newfag, filthy EOP and also weak minded fuck.

>>183655450
>autismo
Hey there Pedro

>>183655517
Fuck off weak minded fuck.
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>>183655503
0
The same number as the number of actual Kiarafags
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Didn't braindamage go to jail or something? Why is he here?
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>>183655673
That is the way many 3DPD are behaving in this moment, there is nothing to do about it.
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>>183655754
this is another clown
he's on fgoalter
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What is meme roll?
1 or 10?
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>>183655875
10
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>>183655829
>fgoalter
Lose one autist, pick up another huh?
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>>183655829
>he's on fgoalter
As always really glad to see someone doing what I would do there entirely on their own.
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>>183655754
Pedoanon here, I don't want to go jail but I still have rape little girls in my mind.
Life is suffering right now, i don't want to be a monster.

I'm also that one anon that failed to kill himself and got commanded obligatory labours and meds by a judge.
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>>183655342
>Rolled five ten rolls this recent event
>Got nothing, only CE's

>Got four gold servants from single rolls I did in despair after the ten rolls failed me

>Mordred Rider
>Tamamo Lancer
>Anne/Bonney
>Fionn

Things worked out, but ten rolls are shit. Not spending money on this kinda stuff again.
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>>183655829
Can fgoalter take in the Kiaracucks as well?
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>>183655875
Meme rolls are singles because there are people who insist they're clearly better when they only have confirmation bias from their opinion as evidence.
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>>183656124
I wish they would take in all the more obnoxious waifufags. They seem to love discussing "waifus" so much.
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>>183654653
That's just luck and personal bias. I've only ever gotten one good thing outside of a 10, and that was Shuten
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>>183656107
You were just lucky with singles, but 10 rolls are objectively better.

Whats with all these anon acting like monkeys? Do they not know of simple statistics?
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>>183655725
but I'm an actual Kiarafag
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>>183654021

It's so insignificant that for a very small number of rolls (let's say what you can roll while being f2p) there's no clear edge showing 10 rolls being better than singles.

There's also the "+1" bonus roll like there is on others games being absent in FGO and that's a big part of what usually makes the deal more attractive than single.

From my own experience out of the 14 5* I got, less than a 1/3 of them were from 10 rolls, but it simply boils down to the fact that I'm kinda "'rolling every 3 quartz" more than saving for a binge session.

Not getting anything while rolling small amounts of quartz over time hurt much less than not getting anything after saving for a few months. Thtat's the appeal of singles for me.
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Spreading out your rolls in seconds/minutes helps you cooldown the RNG

10 rolls are literally cancer since it literally does 10 rolls at the same time, if the RNG is bad, you get shit but if the RNG is good, you get multiples
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>do a 10 roll
>one 4* CE
>do 10 single rolls
>2 4* servants and one 5* CE
WEW
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>>183653583
You downloaded a sample.
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>>183656201
When you equip that Fionn/Deermud CE, does it zoom in on Fionn's face in the party screen?
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>>183656316
>Spreading out your rolls in seconds/minutes helps you cooldown the RNG
I can't believe I'm reading this. So you're fucking stupid right? That's not how probability works, stupid ape.

The surprising part is that idiots do actually believe it works.
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Your chance of getting any given 5* is 50%, either you get it or you don't. 50/50
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>>183656451
This.
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Farming Oil drums it the fucking worst
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>>183656340
but it's literally the exact same image
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>>183656316
I think no one uses unix time in RNG anymore
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>>183656482
just take one lancer, you lose out on +1 drop but gain your sanity and not getting fucked by a million 3-turn NPs
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>>183656416
But it fucking worked. I've had nightmares of 10 rolls but single rolls are always godsent
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>>183656658
Don't bother, they don't care about facts just guesstimate bullshit
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>>183656393
Not really. Also I'm disappointed people always forget Babbage is there. I wonder who Coach is and who's delicious pubes we see.
Fuck. I'm rewatching Gunbuster again
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>>183656554
holy fuck antimaster1200fags BTFO someone make a poll :^)
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woah swimsuit martha's stats are really high
>>
>90% crit card
>it doesnt crit
>10% crit card
>it crits like hell

Probability is fucking cancer
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>>183656715
That event is the only one I've missed, never really got around to viewing the CEs.
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>>183656658
That's just all probability. You get the same chances you take when you roll a single or try for a 10 one. There's no such crazy thing as a cooldown for this RNG, don't be fucking stupid.

When you do a 10 roll it calculates the probability of you getting something 10 times, same as it would do one time for a meme roll, with the different that one of those 10 is a guaranteed 4*+.

>>183656694
>they don't care about facts just guesstimate bullshit
>Facts
>experience from their asses of probability numbers
>guesstimate bullshit
Literally mathematics. Are you a fucking moron?
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>>183656554
>non-master1200
>31kb
>>183653107
>master1200
>56kb
Bigger filesize = better quality. Prove me wrong.
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>>183656787
I got all of them iirc. Most are trash. I'm really sad the Ranpo Kitan Edgemond CE is literally a inferior version of the new years EMIYA CE because I LB the new years one.
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>>183656864
>MUH PROBABILITY
jesus christ just kill yourself you fucking redditor, none of it matters if I'm still getting 5*s with singles
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Where's that Mordred webm from apocrypha? Quality animation
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>>183656554
If the original pic were huge, the sample resolution would be resized to 1200.
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>>183656984
>j-just fuck off, I'm a literally ape and don't care about facts and mathematics
I guess that's why you're such a fucking moron too.
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>>183656715
>tfw only missing one copy of that CE for LB and getting it next year precisely because of Babbage
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>>183656208
fuck off dw
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>>183656912
master1200fags BTFO
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>>183656984
>the le redditor shitposter is literally a retard that can't do mathematics
No wonder, also, screencapped
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>>183656992
>A-1.jpg
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>>183657090
>don't care about facts
>while he has been in denial of other anon's facts
>math
>no exact evidence of said math
What did he mean by this?
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>>183657253
He means he has zero argument and is just roleplaying as Archimedes and failing.
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>>183656912
Objectively wrong, mate. Samples are inferior version of the original ones. That's a fact.
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>>183657253
There's factual evidence of how a roll works, don't be fucking stupid. All you have to do to confirm the fact is take a lot at how probability works, disgusting primate.

>don't care about facts?
What facts? Experience of other idiots saying they got better rolls from memes? So fucking what? It is perfectly reasonable and something that could fucking happen. It doesn't change the fact that singles are objectively inferior to doing a 10 roll.
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>>183657309
wooww what a wek mended fuck
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>>183655168
Marie is cute
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>>183657417
Oh please fuck off, you've been proven wrong multiple times in this thread. Take your fucking math and shove it up your arse cunt.
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>>183654465
There was one point she ended up describing how sexist the episode was the entire review
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>>183657092
I have two copies. I wanna get more. Pity the CE itself it kinda shit. 4* Illya is better
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>>183657417
>singles are objectively inferior to doing a 10 roll.
If you want 4* CEs and 3* Servants.
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>>183657426
>>183657253
>>183657093
>>183656984
I guess this is why this place quickly turns into a shitfest. If the number one shitposter is obtuse enough to refuse to acknowledge the theory of probability.

Disgusting.

>>183657467
The only one getting BTFO here is you, retarded fuck.
>g-get out of here with your mathematics I'm too cool to understand facts
Okay, literal ape fuck.

>>183657585
Oh for god's sake. I can't really fucking believe there's this many of dumb assholes lurking in here.
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>>183656912
If it's just about filesize then what about ones like this where the sample image is smaller?
>>183657061
And if it's about resolution then it doesn't matter for small images.
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>>183657674
Kek
Look at this anon
Look at him and laugh
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Oh my fucking God, first people claiming Jeanne Alter is a good character and now they are totally sure that "our own experience" = facts.
Just how fucking bad can get this community?
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>>183657810
go away wek menden fck
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>>183657674
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>>183657767
Sure retarded ape fuck, I'm also fucking laughing at your stupidity and literal dumbfaggotry.

>>183657810
Proof that this place is filled with literal scum level humans that can't accept probabilities for what it is.

>>183657850
Hey there fucking ape, I'm also laughing at you.
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>>183656124
They seem to be there.
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>>183657810
It's a fact that they got their 5*s from singles
It's a fact they got nothing from 10 rolls
I don't know what you're complaining anon
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Post your accounts and your preferred rolling style so we can get some more concrete ideas of what's actually working out better in practice.
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>there are people right here and right now that think meme rolls are better than 10 rolls
Holy fuck
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>>183658031
>10fags are frogposters
You can't make this shit up.
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>>183655503
I'm one, but I'm so disappointed in what they did it's hard to actually acknowledge that she even got made.
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>>183655686
>that nip
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>183658087
Just holy fuck. You probably can't imagine how genuinely amazed I am right now to know these type of humans exist.
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>>183658005
>Post your accounts
no way fag
singles
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>>183658031
>10rollers are frogposters
It all make sense now
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>>183658146
>hahahaha can't read shit but I will pretend there's something wrong on it because no one probably can't tell apart either hahahahaha
Are you retarded?
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>>183657810
>muh cummunity!!!!

Go back to redddit
>>
God, people are shitposting even at this hour?
How low can this general go?
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>>183658031
>10 rollers are literally /r9k/
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>>183658252
Fuck off, braindamaged Jr.
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>>183658404
What did you expect? It's [country or continent I dislike] hour.
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>>183657970
And is a fact that i got more 5* in 10-rolls, but that is still fucking far to prove aniything.
To observe the reality about something related to chances you need to do a systematic review and check the process thousand of times before you can declare anything.
How illiterate is people here to not understand something that simple.
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Single rolling give you a chance to save your quartz once you get what you want on the first few rolls
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>>183658475
fck off wek mended fck
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>>183657970
It's a fact that I got 4 5* in a 10 roll
It's a fact that some people get more than 3 5* in their 10 rolls
What the fuck are you trying to imply? Are you fucking stupid?

>>183658534
Good my minion, keep the hard work.
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>says 10 rolls are statistically better
>muh mathematics and stuff
>someone says they got better stuff from single rolls
>"You just got lucky"

J U S T
U
S
T
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>>183658490
>2 and half hours or 26 and half hours until liberated from this hell.
News can't come sooner.
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>>183656775
Also depends on the order they're picked. If the 10% crits, then any card can be chosen to replace that one and will be a guaranteed crit. If it's a 90% and it doesn't, it will never crit with any card.

So if 10% crits as the 3rd card but not as the second, then the second card might need 20% or higher. If 90% doesn't crit as first, second or third, then no cards will crit.
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>Braindamage Jr is a 10cuck
Do we even need anymore evidence that singles are best?
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>>183656775
90% + 10% = 100%, that's why the second one crit.
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>he doesnt do feng shui stuff before rolling
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>>183658629
yes
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>>183658603
>got results outside of expected probability
>this must be normal, probability is wrong and I'm being lied to
>>
It's dark days when this thread is several orders of magnitude more autistic than the gaijin fgo thread.
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>he doesn't pray to God for blessing and then rolls multiple marthas at once
>>
SHERLOCK GACHA WHEN?
>>
Who cares about singles or 10 rolls? It's always 50% and 50% chance
>>
>he doesn't dickroll
>>
Guess how many turns I'll need on the boars with this.
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>>183658994
280
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>>183658603
>statistics are an universal fact
>so is probability
>someone says they got better stuff from 10 rolls
>let's totally ignore it and just focus on my objectively inferior memes because I'm fucking stupid!

J U S T
U
S
T
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>>183658994
167 if you don't replace Mashu with Waver.
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>>183659059
>>statistics are an universal fact
proofs?
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>>183659059
>JUST

>L U C K Y
>U
>C
>K
>Y
>>
>Wonder how much damage Tamamo lancer would do to Tesla in the oil farming map
>Look up for a minute
>Look back down
>He's dead

This should speed things up at least.
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>>183659059
Statistics can be quite a bitch
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>>183659171
I just go Double Mashu + 1 powerful lancer
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>>183659298
Russia agrees
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>>183659147
Go search what an statistic and probability number mean, you iliterate ape.

>>183659153
Yeah, whoever rolls anything and pulls something good is called luck too, you fucking dumb fuck.

>>183658603
>statistics are an universal fact
>so is probability
>someone says they got better stuff from 10 rolls
>let's totally ignore it and just focus on my objectively inferior memes because I'm fucking stupid!

But as already posted before, these are the numbers and the reason, explained for apes, why 10* rolls are objectively better than memes.

>Q: What are the rarity rates in the quartz gatcha?
> 3*Essences: 40% 4*Essences: 12% 5*Essences: 4%
> 3*Servants: 40% 4*Servants: 3% 5*Servants: 1%
>The mostly agreed upon theory for 10 rolls is:
> One of the ten cards will have these rates (guaranteed servant):
> 3*Servants: 96% 4*Servants: 3% 5*Servants: 1%
> And another of the ten cards will have these rates (guaranteed 4* card):
> 4*Essences: 92% 5*Essences: 4%
> 4*Servants: 3% 5*Servants: 1%
> The other 8 cards will have normal rates.
> The guaranteed servant and the guaranteed 4* may be the same card in some cases.

>>183659298
Of course. Statistically there are a lot of redditors here right now and that is a bad thing. Having an statistic or probability number doesn't mean you have something guaranteed or it's always better for you.
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>>183659298
Nate Silver is a wreck of a statistician
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>>183659392
I just go two lancers and king hassan

Everything is dead in a few turns.
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>>183659456
>no increase chance for 5* or 4* Servants
>no increase chance for 5* CEs
>must sacrifice 30 (formerly 40) quartz at once
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>>183659603
I've been going full Assassin team + support Lancer. It's easier for me since I have three 5* Assassins. That I got from 10 rolls.
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>>183659659
This
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>>183659456
>guaranteed rates
When did DW ever pull back the curtain on how the gatcha actually works? As far as anyone knows, it just shits out a 3* servant and a shitty 4* CE if you trigger the safety net.
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>>183659702
>I have three 5* Assassins. That I got from 10 rolls.

BUT MEME ROLLS WERE SUPPSOED TO BE SUPERIOR!!!!
>>
So I've seen a few vids of people rolling and a few seem to only want to use single summons instead of 10x even if they can afford it and aren't just burning tickets

Why? Are they worried about some kind of spillover and wasting quartz if they draw it in the first few of the 10? Isn't it still better to get some kind of guarantee?
>>
>>183659793
They're required by law to divulge their rates and how the gacha works
>>
>tfw got 5 5* Assassins from singles
>>
News when?
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>>183659953
in 5
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>>183659865
>guaranteed shit
I'll pass
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>>183659873
Overall rates, yes. I've never seen any specifics on the sub-rates for the guarantee, though.
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>>183659865
singles works for me because I am f2p
>inb4 poorfag wek mended shitposting
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>>183659659
>>183659721
No one is debating which one is better if you don't feel like wasting quartz, that goes without saying, are you a dumb fuck enough that you can't understand that?

Of course if you don't wanna waste quartz you go for one rolls. If you wanna throw 100+ it is objectively better to throw a 10 roll than 10 single memes.

Now, whatever you choose you could always get fucking nothing or get 10 5*s that's how probability works, that's why you see crazy rolls from time to time and your rolls suck most of the time. However, it is statistically proved that you at least get a guaranteed 4*+ be it CE or servant with the 10 roll which is why people claim 10 rolls are objectively better.

Is it too much for your fucking little brain to understand?

>>183659793
They are forced by law to disclose their rates and be faithful about them, otherwise it's a crime.

Or what, are you all retarded fucks gonna tell me you're infinitely smarter than thousands of people that play this for them to have not noticed how the game handles it's probability rolls? Don't be fucking delusional, get the fuck off of your high horse. You're being literally obtuse and iliterate if you refuse to accept this fact.

>>183659859
Based from the claims of retarded apes, I have a fact from some other anon that pulled something better from 10 rolls. Now what?

Don't act like a child, and accept the facts.
>>
we'll get news tonight
r-right lads?
>>
>>183644446
Can't be emulated without a brain, some programming knowledge, and not listening to reddit.
>>
Anyone have those pics of arthoria lancer and shota shirou?
>>
>alter is talking about the VNs
>fgog is talking about gacha rates
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>>183660094
Go away pullfag.
>>
>>183660094
>No one is debating which one is better if you don't feel like wasting quartz, that goes without saying
And no one but you is debating which one is better at getting 4*CEs and 3*Servants. You're the only one who cares about those.
>>
>>183660054
Who have you tried for and who did you actually succeed in getting?

I'm trying to figure out my own stuff
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>>183660272
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>>183660272
and then people complaint about fgog not talking about the game
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>>183660281
There are a lot of 4* good servants. Having them is objectively better than any other 3*- garbage.
>>
>>183660457
Did you reply to the wrong person or are you just an idiot?
>>
You guys are autistic if you stop using your servants when you bond 10 them. I just hit bond 10 with my Heracles and I still have him in my team all the time because he's so useful
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>>183660516
I replied to the right person stupid ape.
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>>183660565
Where do you see me talking about 4* Servants, you ESL nigger?
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>someone's so obssessed on calling someone apes

Are you a SEAnigger perhaps? Got tired of people calling you ape?
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>>183660292
only jack, raikou, quetz and waver
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>>183647676
>>183647978
Sweater Scat is so comfy and casual but the pure sex appeal she gives off does things to me more than her bodysuit.
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>>183660625
The guaranteed 4* could also be a servant, you retarded iliterate fuck.
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>>183660561
Maybe I just want to bond another servant ?
I still use them if I need
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What if there's a different rate with tickets?
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>>183660813
It's not guaranteed 4* servant. Besides, it's still on 3% rate so there's no difference with single rolls and 10 rolls when it comes to getting 4* servants
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>>183660813
Chance of it being a 4* Servant is the same as any other roll.
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Jack frost when?
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>>183660814
Not saying everyone does it, but some people around here talk like they outright refuse to use their servant anymore if they hit bond 10 anymore because muh wasted bond points or some shit
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>>183660292
f2p here too. I got Mordred using a ticket during 2016 valentine, then Vlad in x10 during Go to west, then Tamamo Lancer in a x10 during 2016 summer, then Da vinci in x10 during Aniversary gacha, then Mordred in x10 in 2016 Valentine rerun and then Orion in a single during CCC event.
So far i think x10 are better during events since the 4* CE is more useful than a 3* CE or servant. Outside events singles and x10 are not that different
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>>183660883
>>183660960
Are you two fucking stupid? That's the same number but you get it applied to one guaranteed roll out of the 10 ones. That is, you exclude the probability of getting 3* and 4* essences, which is the reason why it's objectively better, albeit just a small variation, which has always been my fucking point, but you seem too iliterate fucks to understand it apparently.

Jesus, go fucking back to kindergarden or school and learn proper maths, fucking apes.
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>>183660671
isn't ss-chan shitposting?
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Obviously the rates of getting anything gold in the gacha from a single roll are quite low. Out of any 10 given rolls, you have an approximate 10.7% chance of not getting any gold cards based on the numbers. But 10 rolls lowers that chance of not getting anything gold to 0%.

Other than that, the rates are completely indiscernible. Even if you only got 2 extra mana prisms, that still means the 10 roll resulted in a better gain than 10 consecutive silver cards. That's why it's objectively superior. Or perhaps it's more accurate to say that singles are objectively inferior since it's entirely possible to do thousands of singles and not get any gold cards at all. Highly unlikely, but not impossible.
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>>183661143
My bad, only 3* essences.
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>>183661143
>1 guaranteed 4* excludes 4* CEs
Why am I still replying?
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>>183661249
>>183661251
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>>183661251
Yeah I shouldn't have wrote that 4*, that was me fucking up, but that's the only thing you have to point out? Guess you're a fucking ape, go back to school and learn proper math.
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>>183661143
>single roll
>40% 3* CE
>40% 3* Servant
>12% 4* CE
>4% 5* CE
>3% 4* Servant
>1% 5* servant

>guaranteed servant roll from 10 rolls
>96% 3* Servant
>3% 4* Servant
>1% 5* Servant

What's the fucking diference you fucking idiot
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>>183660118
Don't be stupid. They're saving everything for anniversary, absolutely nothing until then.
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>>183661321
Wait, you actually believe that guaranteed 4* or higher increases 4* Servant chance?
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>>183661340
You get more mana prisms from a servant
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>>183661429
Read back what I wrote, you dumb fuck.
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>>183661485
Nice chimp noises.
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>no rate up or banner
>no content
>Still 12-13k a day
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>>183661393
Where are Meltlilith's stilts? Its like this artists didn't know what she looked like.
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>>183661589
>only 12-13k
meanwhile, JP version can make 500k-1m with nothing
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>>183661485
4* servants are still 3% in all rolls you stupid fuck
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>>183661589
DOA
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Ugh...I'm tired of this...you stupid, weak minded apes are lucky that I'll hold off for now...
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>>183661393
I fucking love ban so much

I would suck his dick since he likes drawing them so much
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>>183661662
Then why would you insist that singles are supposed to be better?
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>>183661589
For NA? There's Extella campaign at the moment, and Nero Festival starts tomorrow. Check the ingame news page some time.

For JP? We have an event going on right now, called Summer event. Also JP fans know the anniversary is coming up soon and are waiting for it.

>>183661593
Someone has an inferiority complex. Someone mentions something and "N-no we'll we're doing so much better, so take that"
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>>183661778
Because the only advantage you get from wasting 10 rolls at once is a fucking 4* CE
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>>183661778
Because it's the same shit and you don't have to throw away 30 quartz in an instant.
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>>183661824
>>183661831
No one is arguing about what is better to save quartz, don't be a fucking cunt.

Meme rolls are just that, fucking memes. 10 rolls are objectively superior when you want to throw more than 100 quartz.
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>>183661739
this sounds hot
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>>183661824
That's still better than no 4* CE in every case.
>>183661831
But if you know you're most likely going to do 10 or more rolls anyway, there's no reason not to do a 10 roll.
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>>183661949
Yeah like getting 4* CE is superior than saving quartz
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The gacha is bad civilization.
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What are terms people who play FGO as their only mobage are scared of? So far I see
>pull
>roll
>banner
Any other words we attack people for using?
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>>183662028
You must have shit luck not to get a 4* CE from 10 single rolls
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>>183662072
>newfag is this butthurt
"we" don't "attack" anyone for anything, reddit. Anons just correct dumb newfags like you.
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>>183662072
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>>183662028
>That's still better than no 4* CE in every case.
>did 2 single rolls right now
>got two 4* CEs in a row
nigga what the fuck are you talking about
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>>183662206
I'm far from new and I've never not seen a post that says pull get shit on. Roll is generally ignored but it tends to get jumped om when the post blogposts. I'm not defending ot bashing any action in this thread, for I'm A-OK if newfag mobage players with a not even 2 year old game want their game to be special.
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Can we all just agree the gacha is shit and you should be able to get any servant for free once you have all their ascension and skill mats?
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>>183662028
It makes no difference because it's going to be used as XP anyway.
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>>183662041
Still objectively better, dumb fuck.
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>>183661650
You're not taking into account just how many people are playing the Jap version, people that rightly belong in the NA pool are already just in the Jap one since they didn't have a choice in the beginning.
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>>183662414
D U D E

4 C E
C
E
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How hard will Nerofest be compared to say, EMIYA's Strengthening Quest?
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Translator-kun is here. Say something nice about me.
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>Newfags try to fight the use of terms from older games
Nigga PAD is almost six years old and invented most of these terms.
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>>183662206
shhh
you want to trigger that autist?
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>>183662414
>shitty 4* CE is better than saving quartz
Stop posting right now, you fucking ape.
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>>183662460
Fuck off
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>>183662453
Still objectively better.
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>>183662507
You only save Quartz if you stop at 9 rolls or fewer. With the Gacha rates as they are, though, that's unlikely.
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>>183662517
DUDEEEEEE

4 CEs are objectively better than saving quartz LMAO
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>>183662460
Emiya's interlude was piss easy m8

Nerofest requires sooooooooooome planning, and that's a really vague one.

All you need is to bring your or some friends Gil with Kaleido. Build up his NP during the first fight and then blow it during the first or second wave of the 2nd fight. Bonus points for bringing in your Lancelot with a kaleido to take care of the other wave. Then it's just a matter of keeping your Gil alive so he can shit out some damage on Nero and kill her.

That's the last fight, everything else is piss easy
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>>183662507
>>183662574
>still think someone is arguing what is better to save quartz
Truly the proof of braindead apes.
No one is talking about what is better when you need to save quartz, fucking dumbfuck. If you wanna save quartz do singles, if you intend to do more than 30 10* rolls are objectively better.

Sorry it hurts you to admit it, but that's a fact, monkey.
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>>183662381
I can tell you now, no one would care about getting servants if it wasn't RNG. Its because its gambling that its a badge of honor. Just like kids buying trading cards, and bragging that they got certain card, that card would have no value if anyone could get it.

The game would not work if not for the random chance element for this, despite all the hate towards it. You keep playing, because of that feeling you get when the roulette finally does pay off, and when you can brag that you got the super rare thing to other people that didn't get it.

Other mobage that made their rates far better have gone down sooner. The instant you put in cheatcodes to a video game to get all the items or all the powers, its fun for ten minutes, but it loses its impact very quickly since it doesn't feel like you earned any of it. Random chance is an important part of this shit. The second element that makes mobage work is "The new shiny thing". Everyone else is getting "The new shiny servant, so I gotta get it as well". So you roll, and roll, and roll to try to get it.
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>>183662028
>That's still better than no 4* CE in every case.
Is it? I haven't used a 4* CE that wasn't a free CE for anything in a long long tie. The free CE's at least have shit like +exp, but the actual effects are weaker than the numerous event CE's you get and weaker than 5* CE's.

The only thing a 4* CE does is make put it in second archive.
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>>183662572
>With the Gacha rates as they are, though, that's unlikely.

Same thing can happen with 10 rolls but you can only get 1 4* CE at most. You still save much more quartz than 10 rolls if you get what you want early
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>>183662621
10 roll is not objectively better when you save quartz in single rolls
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>>183662378
>I'm far from new
>proceeds to prove how new he is
>followed by a pitiful attempt to act elitist over the fact FGO isn't his first mobiletrash game
Dumb SEAnigger, just accept your stupid terms will never become the norm here because people don't want to be associated with you and shut up.
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>>183662709
4* CEs can be pretty good and you're 80% likely to only get a 3* from what would normally be the guaranteed gold slot, which even if you're burning cards is less recovery for the investment.

>>183662717
>You still save much more quartz than 10 rolls if you get what you want early
Spartan laconic phrase: "If."
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>>183662805
And no one is saying what is better for saving, fucking ape.

If you wanna save quartz to singles, if you wanna do more than 30 to 10*s. They are objectively better.
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>>183662859
>4* CEs can be pretty good
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>>183662589
I mean Interlude 2, Shadow Herc and shit
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>>183662905
Just change "better" to "faster" so we can post about something else already
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Daily reminder from 10-rollers

4 CEs are objectively better than saving quartz
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>>183662828
The term has been in use since a game with triple the time of FGO. I can't and won't attempt to force people to use it. But I will point out the absurdity of bashing it. Acting like a term used in the past is new is stupid is my argument, and that is me simplifying it for you.
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>>183662921
I know, I meant that one as well. It's piss easy
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>10fags will literally shill 4*CEs
holy shit
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>>183662997
And I'm telling you it gets bashed because no one wants to be associated with the people that use that term regularly, aka SEAniggers. The fact you can't understand this unspoken agreement that's been part of the general for a while is testament to how new you are, not the usage of the term itself.
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>>183662997
>someone who unironically plays other mobage thinks his opinion matteres
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>shitposting about 10 vs single rolls for 3 hours
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>>183662378
Am I retarded or does this post make zero sense beyond the first sentence?
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>>183662905
>10 rolls are objectively better guys
>finds out that it has the same rate as singles when rolling for servants but 10 rolls just guarantees a gold card
>10 rolls is f-faster so it's objectively better! A-At least you get a 4* CE!
Shut the fuck up you fucking ape.
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What if I'm not a poorfag and the time I save 10-rolling is more valuable to me personally than the effectiveness of single rolls? Oh, value is objective, so can we now stop this shitty debate?
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>>183659456
>iliterate
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There's literally nothing wrong with prioritizing 4 CEs than SQ
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>>183663156
Everything after the first sentence contradicts it so it's normal to feel that way.
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How fucking long does it take to roll a single 5* if I finish Fuyuki every time I re-roll?
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>>183663178
Is it really a debate if it's been one side baiting the other from the start?
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I just roll my quartz as I get it. Saving quartz leads to hope, which leads to despair when you roll nothing anyway.
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>>183663291
Anywhere from a couple of days to a few months
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>>183662915
Well if you haven't ever gotten to LB something like Divine Banquet, Iron Training or Art of Death because you aren't rolling them I suppose you might think they're underwhelming.
>>183663243
Well logically if people are saying "singles are better because you save quartz" then I wonder how much quartz they've exactly got stored up?
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Still no:
Muromets lancer\saber
Sokolnik assassin
Dobrinya saber\rider
Popovitch saber\archer
Svyatogor berserker
Peresvet lancer
Kolovrat berserker\avenger
Elena the wise caster
Vasilisa the wise caster
Vasilisa the beautiful caster
Maria Morevna as rider(?)\lancer
Volha Vseslavovich rider
Prince Ivan\Ivan the fool archer\rider
Olga of Kiev caster\avenger
Vladimir saber
Peter the Great rider
Dmitriy of the Don rider
Aleksander Nevsky saber\rider
Rasputin caster
Pushikin caster
STILL no Ivan the terrible
No Kutuzov (where the fuck is Napoleon btw)

No motherfucking Koschei as saber\caster\rider

And that is not counting minor bogatyrs and spiritual\nechist fuckers.

Where are slav servants at?
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Just watched the episode, so when the fuck did Seig fight Mordred?
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>>183663408
>wasting EXP and QP on a lowly 4* CE
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>>183663359
wtf my ni qq a? So you're saying that one shitty 5* I pulled (and scrapped) in my first few rerolls was very lucky?
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>>183663426
Fuck off newfag
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>>183663172
10* rolls are objectively better if you plan on wasting more than 30 quartz, fucking ape.
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>>183663426
At the end. Sieg is still alive. Siegfried is the one who died.
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Man that boar challenge quest is bullshit even worse than the crab one
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>>183663467
If you're rerolling after you finished Fuyuki then yes, because it takes a long ass time
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>>183663291
Why the fuck would you do that?

Isn't Saber Alter all you unlock with Fuyuki? She's just 4*
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>>183663451
>he doesn't level CEs he likes
I'm not done with it though so I'm too embarrassed to show
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>>183663426
The Siegfried you see on the first episode is actually Sieg channeling Siegfried.
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>>183663487
>i'm a newfag for not eating higashide vomit
Fuck you
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>>183663467
>That first "sentence"
Fuck off
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>>183663124
I noticed that, and I don't care if SEAniggers commit collective suicide. What they do doesn't influence my thoughts. If thats your thoughts on why people don't use the term fine. But you're basically stating that when people use the term and get attacked others are doing it for that hating a SEAnigger term. Personally, I don't buy it and think it's all fake hype and a vocal minority. I want to believe people have the mental capacity not to let others dictate their actions online.
>>183663143
Solid argument stating that I hold no ground because I play mobages. Seriously, guess I have to uninstall all of em, except FGO, to have a point. Fuck off this game just recently stopped being shit.
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>>183663526
In your veteran opinion, would you recommend just doing the first 3 quartz drop after the 4* pull and then re-rolling?
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>>183663592
>I'm a newfag because I literally can't read the thread
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>>183663467
>my ni qq a?
what
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It's not fair bros!

FGO NA isn't supposed to last a month!!!
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>>183663592
>claims he doesn't eat higashide's vomit
>watches the anime
???
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>>183663606
>4* pull
I would suggest killing yourself ASAP.
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>Fat fuck
>Loses 2 command spells
>Chewed out by his boss
>Gets gut punched by his own servant
>Loses said servant
>All in a single night

Does he kill himself? Please?
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>>183663628
Obviously he meant "what the fuck my nigga"
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>>183663606
Sure, it's faster than farming the quartz for more
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>>183663593
>being this much of a faggot over something so small

faggot shinde
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This is not apocrypha the anime general you fucking faggots fuck off
>>183663467
Nigger
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>>183663691
No, instead he becomes a better person after reflecting on his actions
Weird right?
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>>183663691
He was about to save the series by killing Sieg though.
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Why is Achilles not considered a top-tier Servant?
I never see him in powerlevel discussions when you guys talk about people like Gilgamesh, Ozymandias, Karna, etc., but Achilles was depicted as strong as fuck in Apocrypha and he gets no love like top-tier Servants.
It's kind of a shame that you guys actually waste time on powerlevel discussions about people like Lancelot who really aren't depicted as extremely strong and don't focus on people like Achilles who are.
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>>183663748
>This is not apocrypha the anime general you fucking faggots fuck off
>he doesnt know the state of these threads when it's airing and after it aired
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If EMIYA primarily uses swords, why can't he become a Saber?
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>>183663734
Global rule 3
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.
Nigger bullshit like that is why we had to get automatic wordfilters.
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>>183663697
alright thanks pal
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>>183663842
>I never see him in powerlevel discussions
Are you blind?
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>>183663787
Didn't see that coming.

Genuinely shocked.
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>>183663842
Weirdly enough he isn't even wanked that much in comparison. He's basically just "myth Achilles", has a lot of generic skills and his NPs are "a spear", "hard to hurt" and "runs fast".
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>>183663842
He really doesn't do shit in Apocrypha

his biggest accomplishment is being a plot device provider so that the meme crew can survive vasavi shakti with a asspull noble Phantasm he never uses himself
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>>183663842
Because he's not in the game yet
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>>183663842
>Why is Achilles not considered a top-tier servant
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>>183663842
Contrary to popular belief not many people have read Apocrypha here. Most have read summaries and parrot other people's opinions of it like Sieg ruined everything, muh mary sue, muh dragondick, etc.
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>>183663964
>sieg ruined everything
Well it's true, how can anyone who has even watched the anime this far not already be at that conclusion
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>>183663916
Sure thing, also please listen to >>183663905 and stop typing like a nigger.
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>>183663842
His invincibility is nerfed in the Nasuverse. It doesn't work against most of the big-dogs you mentioned.
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>>183663958
>Saber not in top 4 for Saber

Do you just ignore stuff like Nasu saying Saber can't lose if she has Avalon? Or is that just who can shit out the biggest explosions?
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>>183664042
Sumimasen senpai
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>>183663958
>top 4
top 5 when?
this trigger my wek mended spells
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>>183663958
Melvin fucking made this did he not
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>>183663657
I like how for months leading up to it /fgog/ was guaranteeing it was going to be dead in three days, and kept citing "Well this soccer game which is popular in Japan didn't do well, so EN FGO has absolutely no hope and is dead instantly!!". Just really being smug about it "Well it just has no chance, I don't hate FGO but it has absolutely no market here. No one would ever play it. Anyone who cares already play it and absolutely no one else would care, so it'll be dead in three days".

The second these types of people are wrong they disappear, pretend they didn't say it, and never recognize it. So they can hold onto the idea that they always know what's right.
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>>183664102
Yeah, if she HAS Avalon. But most of the time, she doesn't.
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>>183664117
>Sumimasen
>not Sumanai
You are a failure
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>>183664102
People always blast that by saying she never has Avalon. I guess the chart needs to state they are the most powerful on average?
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>>183663958
Drake would tear Iskandar a new one
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>>183664164
I was told not to type like a nigger
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>>183664102
That shit ain't standard equipment for her. It's usually attached to her Master somehow. It's like saying that Gil or EMIYA could just go "Gae Bolg GG" when they would never do that shit ever.
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>>183664135
>"Well this soccer game which is popular in Japan didn't do well, so EN FGO has absolutely no hope and is dead instantly!!"
except anyone who quoted Monster Strike's death in the west knew it actually took a while to die. Don't mix shitposts with legitimate concern.
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>>183664102
That is if she has Avalon. Plus Arthurs excalibur is stronger most of the time.
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>>183664219
Drake needs money to be top tier. But Drake summoned by some crazy Qatar fucker would solo entire Grail Wars of people on that list.
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>>183663958
what's the argument for Arjuna being stronger than Ishtar?
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>>183664273
>Creator word of gods a scenario in which she can't lose
>(You) say "but that is wrong"
Hmmm
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>>183663958
Spooky Hassan has yet to do literally anything to other masters or servants and Zealot hasn't done anything relevant to other servants what the fuck is she doing on there
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>>183664346
This list isn't really ranking their powerlevel specifically, more like they're the top 4. The placement is just random.
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>>183664340
Really now? Guess I know who I'm finding a catalyst for then.
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>>183664102
>Saber can't lose if she has Avalon
>Canonically cannot be summoned with Avalon because she lost it
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>>183663958
It'll be funny seeing Melvin's reaction when Alcides jobs to Gil in the next SF volumes.
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>>183663917
No, it just never happens. At least, not even close to as much as the so-called "big dogs." I'm just asking why he's not considered one I guess.
>>183663940
>>183664061
Makes sense.
>>183663958
I was just asking because I don't see him much in powerlevel talk and that chart is really just one person's interpretation of stuff. Seems fairly accurate to the universe I guess but without any backing to it I have a hard time believing any of it.
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>>183664367
>creator says she can't lose if she has this certain thing
>this certain thing is forever lost and was only reunited with her by chance in the Fate route
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>>183663958
It's strange I actually agree with this list.
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>>183663958
>not posting the true, objective, non-Melvin chart
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>>183664340
Why ? She makes you pay for her NP ?
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>>183664253
>That shit ain't standard equipment for her.
It is, actually. The reason it doesn't appear on her is because it's used as the catalyst so the class container doesn't have to summon it.
>It's like saying that Gil or EMIYA could just go "Gae Bolg GG" when they would never do that shit ever
Gil doesn't have the capacity to learn his weapons as was stated for the reason he doesn't.

Emiya can do that but it'll take a lot of mana
>Their entire histories, compositions, and designs are all perfectly recorded, allowing for instant proficiency with the weapons by inheriting all combat skills and techniques utilized by their original owners.
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>>183664396
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.
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>>183663958
How is Birthday Ghost not on the list?
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>>183664494
>Richard
>Jack
Yeah sure thing SFag.
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>>183664481
I wasn't arguing against that. In fact I agree with your statement. However, that doesn't affect my statement. Get some level of reading comprehension before you start correcting people.
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>>183664571
He has yet to do fuck all
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>>183664481
>this certain thing is forever lost and was only reunited with her by chance in the Fate route
It's used as her catalyst...it's not "forever" lost

Nasu said the reason she's not given it is because there would be no drama or excitement and she would roll over everything and everyone. And that's WITH no mana.
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>>183664506
She just gets stronger as she accumulates more money in her treasure hoard. I don't think that was ever explained other than being used as a minigame in Extra. It wasn't mentioned anywhere in her skills or her NPs but it's something she can do. Like Medb's replication of warriors.
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How many Grails does it take to make this fat snake useful?
Also three turn Atk Up + Star Absorption Up buff when?
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>>183664494
>Zealot
Try Shuten or Kerry. Hell, Mata Hari or Yan Qing may be better assassin thanks to having Espionage instead of PC
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>>183664608
Why does he need to? His whole shtick is just passively killing everything around him with diseases isn't it? That list has servants who ACTUALLY haven't done fuck all.
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>>183664672
If you're gonna use any you might as well go all the way. NP level is more important on her honestly.
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>>183664672
0
She already is good enought.
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>>183664672
>lv100 np1
she can't clear hands
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>>183664672
she'll never be useful
shit snek
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>>183664591
Strange Fate has the third highest powerlevels in the franchise, after GO and CCC.

>>183664707
>Shuten
Conceptual weaknesses out the ass. Also too lazy to actually win a war for you.
>Kerry
Raped by anyone with regeneration, and no divinity means he's basically dead weight at high tiers. Might be able to kill Masters for you, but Zealot has a better bag of tricks for doing so.
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>Amakuso being considered for the same rating as King Hassan and Scathach
IT'S NOT FAIR BROS FGOG TOLD ME WAS SHIT
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>>183664458
>find avalon like kerry did
>summon saber
>give saber avalon
>???
>win
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>>183664926
He's shit. It just so happens King Hassan and Scathach are shit too.
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>>183664725
>>183664790
>didn't get any more sneks in the Goddess rate up
I guess there's always the Anniversary gacha.
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>>183665000
>dog collar
MUH DICK
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>>183664865
>Conceptual weaknesses out the ass
My left nut. Muh demons are killed by heroes is a bullshit argument and you know it. Further, many heroes fall to demons. Her specs combined with PC makes her possibly the most dangerous fighter in most wars, plus she has demon magic. Taking out a master would be beyond simple given she's essentially an invisible Herakles.
>Zealot has a better bag of tricks
Time stop may be expensive, but it's literally the best trick of all. Nothing zealot has is better for taking out masters.
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>>183664983
I think Zero showed Kerry wasn't too smart

He was nothing but ideal
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>>183665068
It's an important belt that protects her modesty, not a dog collar.
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>>183664983
>become overseer of the war
>find out who all the masters are
>kill them right after summoning their servants
>???
>win
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>>183664494
>>183663958
Enkidu is that strong? He appears in all lists
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>>183665109
>Muh demons are killed by heroes is a bullshit argument and you know it.
>CasGil goes out of his way to summon a bunch of Japshitters because of their skill as monster slayers
Also good luck actually ordering her to kill other Masters for you, and acting forceful and using your command spells would be pretty much a death sentence with Shuten.

As for Kerry, time stop alone doesn't put him over a Servant that can use any Zabaniya and has killed an actual DA.
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>>183665358
He's just lancer Gil but less retarded
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>>183665152
Oh. That's gay then.
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Reminder that if you don't own at least one Waver or Merlin you should consider suicide.
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>>183665497
>Also good luck actually ordering her to kill other Masters for you, and acting forceful and using your command spells would be pretty much a death sentence with Shuten.
How is that relevant to powerlevel garbage?
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>tfw start wanting to roll MHXA after fapping to her ass so many times
gacha when?
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>>183665610
>Turn 77
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>>183665629
Servant's attitudes are always relevant to powerlevel discussions.
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>>183665610
Why, I can borrow one anytime and invest in servant I like instead.
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>>183665610
>not having a Cake
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>>183665610
I own a Helena and a Hans, is that good enough?
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>>183665661
>fapping to servants you dont own

where's the fun in that, half the reason i play is so i can get more semen demons and expand my allowed masturbation servant pool
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>>183665696
>Gil is considered a top tier archer
You're a lying sack of shit
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>>183665358
Enkidu sucks gameplay wise.
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Gordes looks fat but he's actually pretty strong.
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>>183665748
Are you me? I was about to post the same
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>>183665696
You'll need to remove Gil from the list then.
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>>183665803
He's a hero for trying to kill Sieg
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>>183665793
>powerlevel discussion
>bring performance in the game
Anin, that's not how it works. The discussion is about serious and impactful lore.
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>>183665782
I might have to start doing that actually
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Can someone explain what the "ignoring DEF" for Emiya's UBW means? Does that mean it also ignores any DEF debuffs you've applied to the enemy?
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>>183665791
>>183665812
Gil can get along with his Master in Fate/Extra, but other than in MyRoom shit, Shuten is always drunk and too lazy to actually fight.
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>>183665610
I have Waver but you can get the same result with Mashu, a damage dealer and a friend's Merlin.
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>>183665812
Gil is strong as fuck and he was super productive when he was with Kirei because he liked Kirei
>>
NEWS SOON
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>>183665965
>Does that mean it also ignores any DEF debuffs you've applied to the enemy?
No
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>>183666006
>>183666084
>Gil can get along with Kirei and Hakuno and not be a piece of shit
>B-but Shuten will only be a lazy drunk and will never help anyone
Jesus christ
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>>183666006
Doesn't make up for him betraying one Master and constantly disobeying another, ultimately getting himself killed in retarded ways.
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>>183666084
He didn't obey Kirei once and did whatever he wanted.
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>>183665505
His autism is worse than Gil
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>>183665191
KIrei has already lost this way.
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>>183666174
I'm the second anon, I was just pointing out that Gil can get along with a master, I believe that Shuten could get along with a master too, just depends on finding the right one like Gil and Kirei.
>>183666209
Sure, but they got a whole lot more done together because they had similar goals and compatibility, unlike say Gil and Tokiomi
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Will we ever get Saber Spartacus?
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>>183665965
It ignores enemy's def up modifier.
>Does that mean it also ignores any DEF debuffs you've applied to the enemy?
No.

>>183666360
One day.
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>>183665965
Emiya's NP has fixed damage based on the enemy's levels basically. So it does the same damage to an enemy with 5000 DEF as an enemy with 5 DEF. This can be both useful and detrimental depending on the situation
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>>183666174
>B-but Shuten will only be a lazy drunk and will never help anyone
Yes, Rashamon proved that Shuten is a selfish Servant that is hard to actually motivate. I'm not saying it's impossible, but for the purpose of powerlevel discussion, she's handicapped by her personality and conceptual weaknesses. She's clearly not top three material.
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>>183666424
> I'm not saying it's impossible, but for the purpose of powerlevel discussion, she's handicapped by her personality
You could say literally the exact same thing about Gil
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Did I make a mistake in discarding Arjuna (as a rer-roll fag)
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>>183666424
>Yes, FSN/HA/Zero/SF proved that Gil is a selfish Servant that is hard to actually motivate. I'm not saying it's impossible, but for the purpose of powerlevel discussion, he's handicapped by his personality retardedness. He's clearly not top three material.
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>>183666526
No. Arjuna is terrible.
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>>183666424
>she's handicapped by her personality
Zealot will literally kill everyone in the war because it goes against her beliefs. Literally don't even get past greetings before she crushes Jesters heart with an NP. In what fucking reality does she have a better personality for a war asset than Shuten?
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>>183666526
He isn't a really good 5*
But you'll reroll for weeks before getting a good one
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>>183666424
And King Hassan is not motivated to do shit unless muh bell ring.
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>>183666424
So, just like Gil's retardation tendency.
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>>183666526
He's an average servant in game, but I really want him.
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>>183666571
>>183666603
Alright I feel a little better now, I'll just kill myself rerorring for some top tier gar.
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Moving whenever.
>>183666641

NEWS soon. Summer Jeanne Alter and Artoria Alter confirmed.
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>>183666514
Yes, but less severely than Shuten. Even when he doesn't explicitly listen, at least you can count on him to go out and do shit that will let you win.

>>183666629
I agree, but keep him in because muh Grands.
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>>183666709
Kill yourself.
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>>183666709
>page 5
Newfags were a mistake.
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>>183666709
>this guy again
you like to make early threads don't you
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>>183666709
>page 3
Stop making threads so early, newfag.
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>>183666572
If she doesn't want the holy grail why did she answer the summons call?
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>>183666709
Or you could have made a thread later since it's only 10 minutes till 5:00 pm JST.
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>>183666710
>less severely than Shuten
I don't think we know enough about Shuten's personality and how she interacts with a master to make that judgement. Gil is at least as bad as her if not worse by what we know from how he acts in source materials. Your pointless insistence that Shuten is useless is thinly veiled opinion with no backing.
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>>183666710
>at least you can count on him
It's really not surprising that the Jetfags are the ones going to Harvard while the Gilfags are doing this.
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Tohno servant when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHob0wc9Olw
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>>183666710
>Yes, but less severely than Shuten.
Don't be delusional.
>Even when he doesn't explicitly listen, at least you can count on him to go out and do shit that will let you win.
Just like how he won the 4th or 5th HGW?
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>>183666867
Personality aside, it's really Shuten's conceptual weaknesses that disqualify her from being a true top tier Servant.
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>>183666823
Dunno. Presumably due to personality alignment with Jester, because he doesn't really want the Grail either.
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>>183667034
>Shuten's conceptual weaknesses that disqualify her from being a true top tier Servant.
Which is?
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>>183667034
You mean those conceptual weaknesses that have been shown to do fucking nothing at all in any goddamn work. Fucking astounding. Please though, give me a citation showing how important these "conceptual weaknesses" are.
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>>183667034
If you want to insist that it's her conceptual weakness to demon slayers that makes her less strong, fine, then make that argument. If you can give it some backing, then whatever. I don't know about that one either way. But that's not the argument you've been making, you've been making one about her personality making her completely unable to work with a Master, which is untrue.
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>>183667034
Well Jack's appearance make almost all servant have conceptual weakness against him,are they shit now?
Scat make all divine have conceptual weakness too by the way,wow so much shit servant.
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>>183667102
>>183667120
>>183667152
Like I said, Bablyonia makes it clear that heroic spirits that are famed monster and demon slayers have an advantage against monsters and demons.
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>>183666572
It's seen later she is actually a Lawful Good softie who is afraid of harming innocent people and actually asks the Grail question menacingly to give a chance to the targets. Also she didn't even killed the magi she asked, she just injured them enough that they abandoned the whole thought but still able to cure themselves with magic. That's her whole contradiction, if she was an actual Assassin she would have killed people un the spot without asking a thing. She is bad at being Hassan.
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>>183667472
People die when they are killed too.
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>>183666285
Kirei wasn't trying to win. He was more concerned about getting some entertainment out of the ritual, and at least let the Angra Maiyu be complete.

There's a reason he can't survive past the 5th hgw. Either he interfers too much and gets killed or he succeeds and get killed by the disaster>>183666285
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Dumb suggestion
Confusion/Traitor(?) debuff when? Would be nice to see your own servants beating up or turning against the others.
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