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BASIC INFORMATION
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>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Character Overviews:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame Data
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 Moves per Character
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/

TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS
==========================================
>KBD
[YouTube] Tekken backdash cancel tutorial (embed)
>Buffering
[YouTube] Tekken 6: BR - The Art of Buffering (embed)
>Oki/Tech Trap
[YouTube] Tekken 6 BR - Tech Traps & Okizemes (embed)
>Throw Breaking
[YouTube] Tekken 7 Tips For Beginners - Breaking Throws (embed)
>Wavedash
[YouTube] Tekken Tag Tournament 2 - Wave Dash Tutorial (In Depth) (embed)
>Wavedash/Backdash on Pad
[YouTube] How To Wavedash And Backdash On PAD - TEKKEN (embed)
>Getting Up
[YouTube] Tekken 7 - What you can do after you are knocked down (embed)
[YouTube] Tekken 7 Tips For Beginners - Getting Off The Ground (embed)
>Video Playlist for Combos with Every Character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n

NEWS
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>Tekken World Tour Announced
http://tk7.tekken.com/news/tekken-world-tour-announced
>New PC Patch Segregates Hackers and Other Fixes
http://steamcommunity.com/games/389730/announcements
>PS4 Patch Version 1.03
http://tekkengamer.com/2017/07/04/ps4-tekken-7-patch-ver-1-03-launched-japan-regions-soon-follow/
>Tekken Bowl Trailer
[YouTube] Tekken 7 - Ultimate Tekken Bowl DLC Trailer | PS4, X1, PC (embed)
>Geese Announced
http://gematsu.com/2017/07/tekken-7-adds-geese-howard-fatal-fury-dlc-winter
>New Panel Art as Free DLC
http://gematsu.com/2017/07/tekken-7-teams-renowned-artists-game-panel-art-due-free-dlc-september
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What is Lee's playstyle like? And is he high IQ?
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Tell me your most recent achievements.
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>>183594979
Fuck off
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>>183594793
>[YouTube] (embed)
>no links
stupid waifu shitter in such a hurry to post his shitty thread that he forgot half the fucking OP. way to go, moron
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Is there anything else I can do instead of this?

Dont give me 2 electric combos, i'm not ready for that yet
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>>183594958
highly poke based
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>>183594793
SNIFFY
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>>183595026
why do you hate me?
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>>183595124
Art of Sniff
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>>183594979
I played an High IQ Shaheen and made a King rage quit
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POST COSTUMES
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>>183595096
you can do 2 b3f, 1 instead of one if you do a micro dash
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>>183594958
Lee is as about high IQ as it gets. He's about having really good pokes and baiting counter hits for extreme wall carry and damage, and being decently up close, just pressuring with pokes.
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>>183595202
>tfw no good female pants
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>>183594979

I resisted the temptation to uninstall the game and give up
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Why do so many people decline matches? I can get maybe 1 in ten matches?
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>>183595302
>Eliza yoga pants
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>>183595402
who do you play?

inb4 king
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>>183595405
>character-locked
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>>183594793
Thought Xiaoyu's ass was bare in the OP at first.
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Play bears
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>>183595560

Go to bed, Josie
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>>183595402
What's your main?
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>>183595272
Hmm really? I thought he was relatively simple. Difficult execution and kinda underpowered so not simple as in "easy".
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I'm a total scrub trying to get into this game. I've been screwing around in practice mode but I still haven't quite found a character that draws me in (still waiting on Eliza to be accessible too). Can y'all point me in some sort of direction to start from here? There's just so much to this game that I'm just treading water right now.
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>>183595078
TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS
==========================================
>KBD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3whW6bh9Aks&feature=youtu.be
>Buffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38iJWsjc_w8
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on Pad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5Ji23k4LU
>Getting Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11oZkTYI6Rs&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-PDc20Jezg&feature=youtu.be
>Video Playlist for Combos with Every Character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
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>>183594716

And that is why G Corp helipad is the worst stage.
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>>183595560
>10 frame ch launcher
I should
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At what rank can you no longer rank up from people of your own color?
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>>183595717
>difficult execution for what feels underpowered / a lot of work
This is high IQ
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>>183595875
I don't know, are you black?
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>Lars is honest

Is this the biggest lie in Tekken?

t. guy who got destroyed by a memeing Lars who moved at the speed of light, did safe on block launchers and made me guess every second
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>>183595780
Don't play Mishimas or Yoshimitsu. Jack and the bears are good for fundamentals
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>>183595984
I love bears but no way they are good for fundamentals
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I'm sorry for making fun of you Lili players. This is a hard character to use.
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>>183595780
Play the cat

Learn your best 15 moves and a basic combo. Then poke high and low till they crouch and you can get a mid.

https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
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>>183595952
none of his launchers are safe except for orbital
all his lows are launch punishable
all his stance cancels are negative

stop mashing jab, he goes under that shit
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DA!
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>>183596203
Cat is cute and while not amazing is capable of being useful even into high-level
Combined with the fact that she tilts a lot of people there's really no reason not to pick her up
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>>183596086
whats hard about lili? except her part-that-gets-hard when she sees asuka
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>>183595952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOoL0PklLk8
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>>183594958
You can play him as a very pokey character. Lot's of good damage from CH combos. Also very nice wall carry. You can apply an infinite amount of pressure when you have your opponent backed up against a wall. You can also play him defensively. qcb+4 and f+2,1 are some good whiff punishers.

His best 10f punish is an ass to do tho.
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Who's the best Lee main in Tekken 7?
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>>183596334
Trying to dodge all the BLACKED memes
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how many of you guys, who didn't get Eliza, will put time to learn her?
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Total scrub here. Started trying to bdc on pad and my left thumb is suffering. Any advice on how to prevent this? Or should I just rest more often?
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>>183594979
I'm nearly out of GM as Drag again and I'm finally getting my wave dashes down as Kaz
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>>183596309
Honestly Chloe is good for learning. Her memes are actually pretty lacking and players figure her out quick for big punishes. This means with a limited tool set you have to really get a hang of what it all does
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>>183596365
Lowhigh
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You're a joke.
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>>183596390
She looks pretty boring, honestly.
Sex appeal through the roof, but not my style of gameplay.
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>>183594979
Fought long sets in ranked with this bryan. He was a bit better than me until he started bm-ing me with the same low poke 20 time lmao. Got so tilted I won the match with a perfect. Also definitely played better after that. It was a pretty nice learning experience.
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>>183596416
It will hurt less next time, and even less the time after that. And so on.
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>>183596514
*clap clap*
Nice match, faggot
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>>183596536
Alright thanks.

Was afraid that getting thumb aids would be a major issue with fighting games.
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>>183595780
Screwing around in practice mode doesn't really make you get the point of the character. Try to fuck around with everyone in treasure battle.
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>>183595096
b,f+2,1, b,f+2, b+3, f, 1,2
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>>183595984
>>183596203
the most "experience" (one Treasure Battle) I have with a character is with Miguel. What's y'all opinion on him?
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>>183596454
On the plus side, she has some really sick combo damage if you do get used to her. And only a few of her gimmicks are really that blatant - left twist for example is almost entirely useless, but there's not much else that falls short of being good.

At the very least, I'm enjoying my time with her.
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>>183595560
I need to play bears so bears stop fucking me up every fucking time. I lose every match against them by a hairs length, and am too proud a person to just dodge.
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>>183596390
You're not missing much desu, aside from playing dressup. More fun than Akuma at least.
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>>183596716
Miguel is fantastic. I don't like playing him myself, but he's definitely a good character.
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>>183595096

is that the aris 100 dolla combo?
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>>183595984
Not him but I'm just starting out too and picked up Kazuya because I like him the most. I'm gonna stick with it even though he's meant to be hard.

I'm shitting all over Treasure Battle at the moment but I'm a little scared about going into ranked.
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>>183596716
Play 20 matches with every single character in treasure mode
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>>183596670
I'm not good enough yet to use Practice in any serious capacity. Just going through all the characters moves is what I was mostly doing.

>>183596912
that sounds like good advice
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For people who use the keyboard: what buttons do you use for your punches/kicks?
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>>183596592
This is reality.
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>>183595780
play kazumi, fundamentals character, easy to use, only like 50 moves
only hard thing about her is b,f+2 which you dont really need
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>>183597251
UIOP
grabs on JK
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>>183596390
I'm new to this so why not? Aside from the obvious fan-service, she seems alright.

>>183597520
I tried her in practice mode and she was pretty boring, so I'm not that keen on her
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Got thrown into GM again as Drag.
What do all you lads who main Drag utilise to keep yourself out of the shitter heap?
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>>183597712

d2
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>>183597712
Dragunov players dont thing, they just hit random buttons because some sort of string will come out anyway thats +50 on block and gives 70 damage of a low grab
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>tfw got a blister on my thumb after some hours with the good ol pad

jesus what do i do

im a neet without income i cant justify a stick
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>>183597712
iWR2 git gud
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10 things you love about Tekken 7!

I'll start:
>Emilie De Rochefort
>Asuka Kazama
>Josie Rizal
>Kazumi Mishima
>Eliza
>Nina Williams in a wedding gown
>Ling Xiayou
>Katarina Alves
>Alisa Bosconovitch
>Aris
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>>183597712
No one would be believe me when I said this but I straight up suck with drag in ranked matches. He's very good once u get people to think so in competitive sets with your local friends or some ppl I play from here

But I think the number 1 thing u must learn for playing drag is not iwr2 but buffering iwr2.. and u must be buffering that shit after EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMN THING. He has no counterhit launchers expect that really so if you're not buffering it you're not playing drag
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Nth for turning waifus into vegetables
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>>183597682
you may think wr2 all over again is boring but doing iwr2 all that is pretty fun for me.
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>>183598018
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>>183597905
stick a bandage on your thumb, it wont stop hurting but it will hurt less
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>>183598062
misojinist
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>>183597905
what the fuck are you people doing that your hands are cramping and blistering from playing a video game? i play pad and i play at least 6 hours a day doing FADC combos and my hands never hurt
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>>183598062
>blocks orbital and snake edge
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will eliza be for free?
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>>183598018
Bald
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>>183598351
haha
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>>183598351
Elizas are always free
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>>183598318
my thumb is kinda already weakened from playing too much gameboy when I was a kid

idk shit genes I guess
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>>183598130
It's just /fgg/ trying to shit this place up. Just report it.
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I spend more time shitposting here than actually playing the game. Help!
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>>183597163
Well maybe not every single character, just try out most of them.
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>>183598831
Same But I can't play anyway since I'm at work. Getting paid to bryanpost
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>>183597897
I think dragunov only has one string that's + on block and it's +1 and the last hit is high
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Whoo! 5 match win streak with Eliza in ranked, thanks Bryans for staying free.
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Two bait posts in a row. Keep it up /tekgen/
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Who should I play if I want to play the most basic and boring mid range poking game possible? (besides Jack if that's who you would answer)
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i really want to play but this blister I have makes it impossible fuck
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>>183599937
Kat
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>>183599937
try shaheen
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>>183599937
Kazumi
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>Jack with stupid fucking meme customizations like spinning wheels making it impossible to see anything

Gas all Jack players
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>>183599937
kazumi
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>>183599937

Kazumi is the only other alternative to Jack
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I'm out of the "literally my first fighting game" ranks.

Now I can't win anymore. How do I actually play Tekken?
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I can't beat even the shittiest gouki. I don't know what it is but he slows me down so much.
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What's the benefit of just frame Thrusting Uppercut with Jin?
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>>183600958
more damage and slightly higher launch
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>>183594979
MOM I MADE IT!!!!!!
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>>183600112
I'll gas you
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>>183601029
your Chloe looks like Bootsy Collins if he agreed to be in an Outkast video
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>tfw I low parried Josie's string on reactions
>Never manage to do it again even though she kept using the same string in later rounds

What the fuck is wrong with me
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>>183600841

Whiff punish

That's like, 90% of Tekken
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>>183601029
Your Chloe is ugly but I'm proud of you
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What went right?
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If you play Lars you're a humongous faggot and you're probably the guy in your friend group that everyone hates.
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Which character has the puffiest vulva?
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>>183601227
But nothing whiffs.

Also I apparently don't know how to block lows.

I don't understand my character's gimmick, everyone else has gimmicks that get them big damage for nothing but I don't have one.
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>>183601281
Sayonara.
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>>183601281
Lars is so anime in a way that amuses me rather than irritates me, for some reason. When I'm really stoned I almost think he's kinda cool.
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>>183601281
Tekken 6 and everything about it was a mistake desu
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>>183601462
So block lows/side step or learn to punish. Whats killing you and who do you play
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>>183601662
I will fight you...anytime
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>>183601720
*winquits*
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>>183601608
Wow, you do drugs. Congrats.
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>>183601608
Are you what Aris complains about all the time. I didn't think you actually existed. No one is that retarded.
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>>183601695
King, Eliza, Jin beat me last.

I play Claudio. I want to play someone else but they all seem so complicated compared to Claudio.
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please tell me you ps4fags can still see what country the opponent is from
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>>183601984
>what Aris complains about all the time
Getting beat by item moves?
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Kazuya is the coolest. I like electics :). Dorya!!! xD
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>>183602149
Pizza is bullshit. Quiet down. But thanks for the donashe
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>>183602221
Reported.
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>>183602040
>plays claudio
>afraid of lows
Just hopkick
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>>183602145
I played last night and I still could. I wish PC would get the deathmatch and hidden character/rank patch already though. Too many bitches dodging my King.
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>>183602040
Well I don't know fuck all about Claudio other than his hopkick. Just practice movement and blocking. I'm new too and went from losing every match to winning more often than not just by learning how to block and take advantage of mistakes made by my opponent. There are tons of tutorials about defensive play and in my opinion knowing how not to get hit is better than knowing a combo.
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>>183602424
You know what's gonna suck for you when you get the hidden character patch? All the king mirror matches LMAO
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How the fuck do I play aggressively? I suck ass at putting pressure on people while also playing safe. I made it to green playing Nina and I just feel like when they punish me for playing aggressive I play more modestly and they in turn mash me to death for giving them too much respect. Wat do?
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>>183602629
use your positive on hit low a lot
sidestep to scare them into not jabbing
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>>183602624
yeah I have gotten about 4 King mirror matches on PS4 just last night. None of them fought me more than the initial set either.
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>>183602629

Understanding your characters frame data helps with playing aggressive.
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>>183602480
That's what I hate, no one seems to fucking know anything about Claudio, other than his hopkick and some people say he's trash and others say he's good.

I wanted to play Xiayou but she's too hard to play. All those stances will just get me confused.
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>everyone win quits game 1 on ranked
Never gonna revenge match again. There's just no point.
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see you back in Expert soon Hwoarang
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>>183602480
>>183602995

Claudio has a mix of decent mids and highs, the hopkick, crazy damage with anime hand and a majority of his moves are actually -9 so they're very difficult to punish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obxq5KLAH9I This tutorial goes more in depth.
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I want a 13 frame mid counterhit launcher.
Any recommendations?
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>>183602995
I mean he's new. You can't be surprised if no one really plays him when this is a legacy game and people have been playing the same characters for years. That being said, fundamentals are fundamentals. Doesn't matter who you play
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King is such a cancerous character
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>>183603452
Legacy game just sounds more and more like there isn't any room for me to play.

Then again I should be used to being trash at competitive games I guess.
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>>183603410

I don't think that exists. I do know Kat's df4 is i15
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>>183603709

>Legacy game just sounds more and more like there isn't any room for me to play.

This isn't true in any way whatsoever.
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>>183603709
there are other new people out here grinding
i just mercilessly trashed two of them that both had zero wins in player match
they're probably going to shake it off and keep playing

so should you
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>>183603709
Ok now you just sound like a bitch. I'm not going to coddle you. Learn from videos and believe or not, you learn from getting your shit pushed in. Getting low spammed? Whoops you accidently parried? Better try to do that again. Oh it worked? Now you've learned how to parry or at least to start blocking lows and then you can work on stringing a combo from it. Hopkick punishes lows? And it launches? Better work a combo from there after reliably landing the hopkick and understanding reads. Do fucking player matches so you don't have the stress of ranked.
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>>183603709

look at it from a different angle, it just means that the time you put into the game won't be lost even if new titles in the series come out
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>>183603410
13f mid ch? Closest I know is kazuyas kazuyas which is 14.
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>>183603041
if i did revenge matches until the other person didn't want to i would be about mentor rank.

you want to have a high rank don't you anon? that's what's more important than anything, isn't it? just that ONE single W, not getting legitimately better, that's what counts
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>>183603410
Bryan ws3 is 12 frames.
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>>183601281

Need a medic, skrüb?
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Is Jack's ff1 his best neutral move?
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>>183604287
Tfw I'm mentor and I've legitimately played every single match.

I'm just plain bad though.
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>>183604287
>Playing Ranked to get better

lmao, thats what quick matches are for, in Ranked I play to win
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Tfw at the end of the day Tekken 7 is a fighting game and the actual fighting is great
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>>183604958
ye
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>>183603410
Gigas has one! Join the clan!
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>>183604958

db1 is great too
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whats with all the faggots winquitting when they win 3-2? scared of losing the next one?
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>>183606104
>no matter the real life circumstances of my opponent, he must rematch me until I AM SATISFIIEED
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>>183606374
yet if someone doesnt rematch after losing you would throw a hissy fit
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>>183606104
Yes
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>>183606437
nice projecting friend
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>tfw ranked all the way down to initiate from green because I keep deathmatching people but only if they're better than me

I'm a fucking idiot
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>>183606526
you too
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>>183606104

Because that's a best of 5 set m8
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>>183606692
I think he meant winning one set with 3-2
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>>183606104

Sounds like you have a sour taste in your mouth, faggot. You lost a best of 5 matches, get over it.
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ranked is full of the same 4-5 people all the fucking time
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>>183606808
t. PC
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>>183606808
t. Vanquisher
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>>183606808
thank harada for no crossplay
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>>183606564
dude, don't wreck yourself like that. picking your fights is half the battle in ranked

which is why i stopped
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>>183606802
>>183606692
those are rounds retards
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can every character kbd? I main Eliza and I feel like I can't get her to do it. Do I just suck ? Does it look different for her? or should I just practice it on another character?
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>>183607292

>Saying 3-2 instead of just one win.

Good job you you dribbling autist.
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>>183607020
you mean thank Sony
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After playing 900 games with Raven, I can say don't even think about block punish anything less than -16, and only punish sweeps if you have 3 bars. Most of your moves are unsafe and slow, you have to BT to do a low sweep or non-neutral hopkick, which is basically useless at higher ranks. Your priority is to create whiffs and fish for CHs with your weird movements. I wish I knew that sooner.
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>>183607496
because its not 3-0 stomp you idiot
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>>183607391

Yes, every character can do it, but some characters have unique backdash animations, and Eliza being one of them.
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HWO MAINS

/W W @/

>mfw stringing on my babby ass opponent
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>>183607543

Doesn't matter, you still lost, and that's on you. Neck yourself.
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>tfw when you create an extremely sick costume for a character you don't even know how to play

i guess from today on i'm a lee main...?
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/our guy/ The Phantom is in playing the winner's finals of an Italian tournament

https://www.twitch
.tv/tekkencatania
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>>183607762
>Hwo main
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aw man, I'm gonna be one of those 1st Dan shitter with a 100 wins

what do I do?
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>>183607847
Why does he do the Naruto signs?
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>>183607843
I'm proably going to buy Eliza just so I can customize her
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>>183607992
player match
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>>183607992
Learn to play the fucking game. Why do you do ranked when you don't know how to play. F U N D E M E N T A L S
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>>183607781
lmao anything to help you sleep at night bitch
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>>183608039
it's ninjutsu
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>>183608039
because he's fucking crazy
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>>183607536
I feel like when I play Raven all I'm doing is attempting to bait people with gimmicks
She's solid but really I just don't know how to progress with her, 300 games in and only managed warrior rank, stuck between that and fighter. I play other characters so maybe that's hindered my growth with her since she's really different from everyone else.
What CHs are you talking about btw? I know 4,1 goes into full combo and BT 2,3 on CH gives full launch. What else is good to use?
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>>183607992

Improve
Learn about frame advanage
Learn how to whiff punish
Learn how to condition an opponent
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Played 2 games against Paul and I can feel the vein in my neck from anger
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>>183607391
Eliza main here
her backdash is one of the worse ones, it's still useable though
Akuma backdash is horrid though
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>>183608660
CD cancel into WS2. That's why you see pro Raven spamming CD right into other's face, so they can WS2 CH launch them.
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>>183608886
learn to block his low launcher
learn to punish death fists
you now fuck up 90% of pauls
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>>183609075
>punish deathfists

Feng has nothing, not even shoulder reaches
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if you're going to dodge some characters just stay in fucking match list
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>>183609241
Just get some space and start sidesteping, Paul has shit tracking.
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>>183609241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IkRj5R1Wew#t=5m0s

shoulder doesn't work at max range but d/b1,4 might. then again, whiffing against Paul is scary so you might just have to hold max range DF.
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How do I deal with Xiaoyu? I feel I don't have a chance against her half the time.
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>>183609241
I think db3 might reach
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>>183609439
>>183609510
>>183609693
I'll try it out

Paul was still a mistake
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Is it true that people on PC can delete their save data to start over and destroy shitters all over again?
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>>183609778
You can do that on consoles too.
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>>183609778
no
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>>183609684
you kinda have to play extremely lame and make her overextend trying to get in. that is assuming you have decent movement and defense and the ling player is also decent/patient. if not, then you kinda have to beat her at range 0 scramble situations, but the character is basically built for coming out on top of those, so good luck. in general it kinda depends on the level of play you're at.
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Holy shit, is bryan's CH4,3 etc combo only possible for those of korean blood? what the fuck. i saw a video of lowhigh doing magic4,3, 1, sway2,4 S! b+3 f, 4,1,2 but i'll be DAMNED if i get the screw. shit is hard as a bitch.
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>>183609241

These are the one off the top of my head.
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>>183607847
Grand finals now with Nina vs Master Raven. Not a very common thing to see.
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>>183607536
>>183608660
Lmao play someone else you babies
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>>183611131
t. low iq Paul main
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Dreamhack top 8 soon

https://www.twitch tv/dreamhackfighters

There is also a Josiefag resteam
https://www.twitch tv/avoidingthepuddle
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>>183610709
magic 4 combos are very hard anon, don't worry about them too hard.

even if you get it down, that's on counter hit. it's hard to hit those during a match.
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>>183611131
>unga bunga
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>>183610709

You can do 4,3,4 after CH 4,3 to do a screw. The hard part about that combo is actually landing the 1 after CH 4,3
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how many australians play this? kinda wanna get this but the lack of strayans playing fighting games in general always puts me off from bothering
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>>183611359
>>183611696
I play raven. I just cry about how bad my high tier character is
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>>183611897

I heard there's actually a pretty vibrant Tekken community in Melbourne and Sydney.
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>>183612012
Don't cry*
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>>183611667
>>183611884
i guess i shouldn't fuck with it too much anyway. i barely use standing 4 much and if i get a counter hit i would probably drop it because i didn't input the 3 after. i'll focus on some other stuff.

thanks m8s.
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Watch Aris or play some matches?
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>>183612139
watch the world tour event top8
aris streams every day anyway
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>>183612270
He is restreaming and commentating the top 8 which is why I kinda wanna watch
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>>183612316
ah ok
good to know thanks
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Infinite Azure or Arctic Snowfall?
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Lord Bloodhawk commentating again!
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>>183612468
Mishima Building
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>>183612468

Infinite Azure. Arctic is way too blue now, I preferred vanilla Arctic.
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>>183612051
i've been looking through facebook (or rather, trying to) and found an oceania discord which ive been lurking, but was also curious about people from the general who are also aussie

>try to check a facebook page
>"HEY SIGN IN AND LET US TRACK YOU TO VIEW THIS PAGE"
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>My favoruite female character is Josie
How did Aris fall this far?
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Ok I don't get Paul at all
I can punish his death fist just fine but the faggot keeps throwing out demoman at random times, so I just don't bother parrying and taking the first hit to block the rest. The problem comes when I'm at the wall, he gets the first hit but magically he gets the full combo and I can't block it? What the fuck?
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>>183612932
shes braindead unga, perfect for a degenerate stoner
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>>183612932
I would actually dig her design if she didn't have that insufferable crying shit
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>>183612932
But Josie is the cutest
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>>183612932
Shut up stoner, you're wack.
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>>183612468
arctic snowfall free.
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Fucking Phantom kek
man he looks really comfortable on Raven, though a lot of his combos look really weird, like he's missing a good 8~10 damage on some of them. I guess it's for better oki situations?
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rank ups for the rest of your characters at certain ranks should be much harsher
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How can I train to break throws? I've lost too many
matches to a run up grab.
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Guy trying to learn KBD here.
I've been practicing the skill on both 1P and 2P side. If you see my inputs the top list is 1P and the bottom is 2P. The problem is that while I've started to get the hang of it on the 1P side (even though those inputs look very messy) I can't get it at all on the 2P side.

I read about KBD and how the stick is supposed to register D/B, B when you go D/B, essentially when you release the stick from D/B and go to neutral you should be getting a B input, then you input the second B in order to get the backdash.

However, the problem is that on the 2P side, I'm not getting that, as you can see. Sometimes I get D, D/B, but not D/B, B. Should I open up my fightstick and check the switches to see if there's anything that could be casuing this?
>>
TORIYA
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>>183613675
Well if you're not fighting king, gigas and maybe Nina and they're running up and throwing you an easy way out is just to hopkick
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I dunno if this helps, but I highly recommend customizing to have the Jun Kazama (Super Ecology Mix) theme from Tekken 2 to your go-to practice stage whenever you're in practice mode. Makes have to go through all the frame data and figuring out punishes more relaxing.
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ALL THESE FUCKING JACKS AAAAAAAAARRRRRRGHHHHHHHH
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>>183613874
I'm not expecting them to the throw but it's just annoying when they resort to that because they can't figure out what to do.
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>>183613707
Stop obsessing over stupid gimmicks like this
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>>183614772
t. 3rd Dan
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>all these jacks
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>jack
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at least Saint goes in
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>>183595681
Gigas
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>>183595202
R8 my asuka.

Sorry for shitty pic
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>>183615187
he would not go in against a ling
anakin blows out p ling though
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Lmao Ling is so fucking bullshit.
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>>183609684
There are tutorials on how to beat her on youtube iirc
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Yes Ling kill the robot
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>>183615295
Don't care/10
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>>183615295

Why would you not just use the screenshot function of the PS4, put it on a USB or something, and upload it?
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Anakin Paul is my man.
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>hate Ling
>really hate watching Jack
eh, both of them are faggots
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T8 delete Ling please Harada.
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How do I get launches as Jin?
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jack is low tier, i swear
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>>183615441

GAS ALL LING PLAYERS
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Loving the tears. Keep em comin scrubs
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>>183615752
Yeah, haven't you been watching? He hasn't won a game yet.
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>>183615808
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>>183603709
Hey, the good players had to start somewhere as well. If you like the game, stick to it is what i'd say.
T. scrub still trying to learn the game.
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>>183612468
Azure. Snowfall's background shifting/warping is nauseating and it looks like shitty shadow moses
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All online Ling players are trash at Tekken and not worth their rank honestly.
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>>183615738
Normal launchers:
ff3
ws2
d3+4
f,n,d,df+1
f,n,d,df+2 (Only electric version will get a launch.)
df1, 4~4

Counter Hit launchers:
db4
f4
4

I'm probably missing a few but yeah, those I just listed are good.
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>>183616103
t. 3rd Dan
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>>183616103
Y so mad?
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>>183616103
Yeah I have to agree. Ling is kinda broken.
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>>183616103
facts
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>>183616103
u rite
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>>183616103
facts
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>>183615808
Delete this. My wife is not that kind of person.
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>tfw I wont get to be a special snowflake eliza player anymore after the 28th
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>Josie's rage art is where she jumps and uppercuts you
>hits low
I hate this dumb fuck unga character so much
I'm just going to trainer this cunt so it auto disconnects for the both of us or win with infinite health
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>>183616298
>every tournament won by Steve, Hei, and Jack
>"yeah anon I think Ling is broken"

Reading posts like this just makes me embarrassed for you. Let me guess, Josie and King are broken too.
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>>183616218
>>183615738

Oh, I forgot to include that he has a hopkick.
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>orange rank ling player
>doesnt break a single throw
>doesnt know a single punish
>doesnt know how to space properly
This was the norm in Tag 2. Ling players seriously have garbage fundamentals.
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>>183616519
No, it's a mid you idiot.
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>>183614772
I'm trying to learn a skill that will help me play the game.
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>"And you can be my sidekick, Lil Trungy, and you can have little boots and a little cape."
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>>183616519
>hits low
no it doesn't you retard.
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>>183613707
Maybe? Stick maintenance is always good but I doubt it's the reason you're getting messy inputs unless you've been cumming inside it.
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>>183616451
Seeing as I encounter them pretty frequently or atleast once per day, instead of never or once a week, I'd say you aren't a special snowflake anyway.

Go Terrorist or Niggres if you want to feel special.
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>>183616705
I just tried to snakedge and the cunt literally hit it
and I wasn't even near her
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>that comeback
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>>183616885
>dumbass fagunov player
shocking
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>>183616519
Lol
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>>183616885
I don't think you quite understand how the system works yet
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>>183616528
and yet she regularly carries fraudulent players
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>>183616885

Yes, dipshit, that's how mids work. Snake edge is not a magic invincible free hit button. If it gets blocks or absorbed, you will get punished with a mid. Please learn the basics of Tekken.
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>>183616969
>passing judgment on characters when you're so new that you don't even know whose move snake edge is
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>>183612139
>being a streamboar
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>tfw hit a b4 into a jet upper at the wall
Its not nearly as nice as a taunt jet upper, but it's a satisfying substitute for now
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>>183616885

This is some sort of joke, right?
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My screen fucked up did Shinblade win?
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Josie is so fucking broken holy shit
>her strings are literally safe as fuck
>every single move she has can launch on ch
>requires literally 0 skill to play her, just press buttons and get results
dodging this cunt forever and I'll beat the shit out of any player who plays her in a tourney
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reminder that scrubs love talking about tiers because it gives them something to blame for their losses other than themselves.
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Remember to filter people who complain about Josie when there are way better characters to be autistic about.
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>>183617149
>Implying people don't call every high risk low with launch properties a snake edge because they have almost the same frames, hitbox, animation and damage if not exactly the same.

Just do BT d3 with Master Raven and tell me it's not a snake edge
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>>183617251
Have fun being a shitter forever.
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>>183617458
shut up nigger don't talk to me
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>>183617179
It's actually better but ok.
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>>183617393
so why would you call him a dragunov player
kys already
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This general is shut. Non stop whining about characters. Can't even enjoy a tournament. Whoever wins just opens the flood gates of crying OP
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>>183617251
if you can't even beat a mid tier at best character like josie, you will never place in a real tournament. sorry anon.
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>>183617504
I didn't faggot, I just bumped in to say that it doesn't have to Bryan.
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>>183617489
You can't tell me what to do, shitter.
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>>183617693
yes I can because I am a Josie player in yellow you dumb nigger
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>>183617359
Yes like Hwoarang
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>>183617562
DAILY REMINDER XIAOYU LEO AND PAUL ARE BROKEN
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>>183617737
You're obviously not. You're crying and dodging her. Nice damage control shitter
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>>183617251
>the game has been out for almost 2 months and scrubs still mash buttons during switch stance
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>>183617489
Good luck in tourneys when you can't even beat stagger kicks
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>>183617842
This. As soon as release she's actually in stance a lot of the time she becomes much easier to handle. However that would require a bit of effort and thinking.
>>
>want to sidestep to the right
>Character starts teabagging
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>>183617359
shes braindead
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>>183618058
>losing to a braindead character

Get a brain then. Don't talk to me.
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>>183617842
Josie has stances?
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>>183617842
>press nothing and block
>get hit by a low that leaves her + on block so she can start up again

>try to hit her during the stance
>she's + on block and you'll eat a CH

The only option you have is ducking the initial jabs
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>>183618058
And she's beating you. What does that tell us about you, anon?
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>>183617808
why would I mirror match other Josie shitters? explain that retard
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>>183617359
It's just one of those matchups where you need specific strats for, which is to much to handle for the crying retards here that think their default program should be enough to become red rank, wasn't it for all these mean characters they keep loosing against.
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>>183617562
p.ling is a fraud
>>
Who are the notable people in this tournament? Just Anakin and speedkicks?
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>>183618193
crouch block you fucking moron holy shit.
what rank are you? don't lie. just post it.
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>>183618193
learn the lows in her strings, high crush her jabs.

You actually just said how to beat her spam.
>>
How tech Giant Swing?
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>>183618445
Princess Ling is more notable than Speedkicks. That's why he always wins when they play.
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>>183618563
1
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>>183618564
but since he's a ling player he's an actual subhuman with no worth
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>>183618193

Man, it's really too bad that there's nothing you can do in Tekken that deals with a high and a low. Something that would would you in a state where you could punish with some sort of while standing launcher. No choice but to mash buttons and get counterhit.

I don't mind when people are bad at Tekken, it's just fascinating to me that you've been playing this long and still can't figure this out.
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Kazumi main here. What can I do to break non-stop blockers? All I have is this combo and 90% of the time I have to get lucky to connect the uppercut.
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I dropped so many ranks today I feel like kms
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>>183618564
p.ling got exposed by Tanukana, a woman who lost to a 9th kyu Claudio
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>>183618617
You could argue that Hwoarang is just as dishonest
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>>183618691
that string is trash

db 4 until they crouch, then df1

grab also

your char sucks dick and so do you
>>
>>183618691

Force your opponent to block low by using db4 alot, then start using your df1 and ff4 if you feeling like launching
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>>183618691
That's not a combo. That string is also complete garbage.
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>>183617562
p ling is a good player. he was really strong in tag 2 with ling who was around mid tier. doesn't change how his character is now really fucking strong and not fun to play against.
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>>183618852
>>183618925
>>183618964
Alright, thanks a bunch you guys.
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If they played on PC this controller fuckery wouldn't happen
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>>183618465
>>183618683
>>183618526
You realize she has mid options out of the initial jabs right? It's all a gamble
her 1,2 jails and if you chose to crouch after they can do 1,2,3
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>>183618465
>crouch block
>unreactable lows or get hit by a mid that, again puts her + on hit and continue or bounds on ch
kill yourself retard
>>
>>183618246
>>
Why is Jack so prevalent in tournies?
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>>183619289
because Jack has the best pokes in the game
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>>183619289
Many good players use him
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>>183619289
easy to play, low execution, some of the best whiff punishment. just very consistent overall
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>>183619289
Because he requires no execution and the pushback on his moves makes people feel safer
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>>183619289
he is very solid, easy to play safe but effectively for good damage.

Awkward spot of not too good but way too solid
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>>183618117
>>183618209
I don't have much trouble with her, though. Shes just easy for people that don't like to think.
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>>183619191
It would be worst, controller drivers are a nightmare
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>>183619379

>2,1
>df2
>db1
>ff1
>f1+2*
>f2*

*-not sure ho useful they are compared to the others

Am i missing anything else?
>>
>Can do 8/10 electrics in training
>Dont even dare try it in a real match because ill just get the normal version and get punished
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>>183617496
Is it? I'm new to this. Everyone always says how crazy taunt jet upper is so I assumed it was Bryans best move
>>
that's it, I'm gonna winquit everybody now
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>>183619207
That's called a mixup yes, and?

Want a save method or something? Eat her lows a few times then block them and force her to do the mids which sure as fuck aren't all -10-11.

Or just highcrush those jabs or even simpler parry them if your character can,
>>
>>183619467
that's cause she's safe on a lot of things
she's the definition of low risk extremely high reward
>>
More like Jakken 7
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>>183619673
b+2
df+1
f+2 is punishable, so it's not so much a poke, but it's his only 10f move so it has good use at range 0.
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>>183619687
Yeah, if you can get b4 into jet upper at the wall, it's overall better because b4 is a mid and less intensive on your hands.
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>>183619804
ONE
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>>183619561
that would only be a problem if people were coming up with some random obscure controller, which chances are wouldn't work on ps4 anyway. The rest just have installed already
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>>183619207
Yes, that's how offense works. You are rewarded for predicting your opponent. You are punished for not predicting your opponent. Do you need me to explain the basics of fighting games to you as well?
>>
Finally a player Jack wins a set
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>>183619687
taunt jet upper is like the only "practical" unblockable launcher in the game. the other is yoshi sword sweep.
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>>183619848

his ff1+2 and ff2 good as well?
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>>183619978
a Jack player*
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josie is broken because she might hit me mid but she also might hit me low :(((
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>>183619973
>>183619718
The point was that just crouching is not the solution you dumb Josiefags
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>>183620092
those are unsafe launchers, so not really as pokes, but ff+1+2 is a really good whiff punisher.
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>>183620171
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>>183620172
Yes it is, because you're whining about counterhits. Josie's counterhit launchers from switch stance are high and low. You avoid that by first, not mashing buttons, and second, by crouch blocking, which ducks highs and blocks lows.

I recommend you stop trying to find excuses for your losses and listening to players who actually know what they're talking about. Otherwise you're just going to be a shitter forever.
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Is PC dead yet?
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>>183618691

d/b4 you can follow up with d2 if it counter hits

also d/f1+2 kills everyone even in green ranks

try not to do WR2 , try WR1,2 or WR4
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>>183620480
Once you reach yellow / orange enjoy fighting the same 3 people forever
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>>183620480
a-any day now
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>>183610828
What's up with the cholo outfit
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>just spent an hour and a half trying to hit taunt jet upper
>didn't even get one
>not mad at all
robot is relaxing to practice.
he has the best fighting grunts too. my favorite is the really high "YEE HAHA!"
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When are they nerfing Hwoarang?
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>>183620603
This. And a lot of players at those ranks will dodge the shit out of you if they get butthurt, so its even worse.

I was forced to learn a new character just so I could play some fresh competition at green ranks.
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>scrubs are complaining about Josie instead of Leo today

Ich glucklicher!
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>Get rid of a Jack
>More Jack to come
stop
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>>183620779
Taunt dashing is my favorite

Hmmhmchcchhmmhchhmmchhmmmhmhmmmchchch
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>>183620870
I havent faced that faggot today and i'm happy because of it
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>>183620813
Koreans say he is mid tier at best, so never.
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>>183620905
they get beat, but more just keep coming
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>>183620870
I raped one today and winquit on her get fucked
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Who is the most honest character in T7?
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>>183620480
yep, dead game confirmed. we should all go play league and overwatch while we wait for starcraft remaster to come out and save esports
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>>183621016
Jack.
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>>183621016
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>>183621012
I like to play make believe too!
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>>183621016
Jin desu

Buzama da na
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>>183621016
Jack, but don't pick him if you like winning
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TORA DA TORA DA
OMAE HA TORA NI NARUNODA
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Do you need to be a certain rank before you can unlock on hit effects in treasure mode? Because it's taking me goddamn forever to unlock red lightning for Kazuya.
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>p.ling can't beat tanukana
>tanukana can't beat some random gg player spamming hopkicks

really makes you think
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>Paul and Jack main
complete scum
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>>183621016
unironically devil jin
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>>183621016
Josie
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>>183621352
*hits you with unseeable snake edge*
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>>183621332
Sorry kid but Paul and Jack are based.
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>>183621304
tanukana was hungover from sex
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>>183616829
but are these Elizas good?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xu5ppr7u-4
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>>183621332
>hits you twice for half your health
stay mad
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>>183621446
*does zero damage*
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>>183620671

You don't like it?
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>>183621417
record your matches with josie
otherwise keep your mouth shut
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>>183621471
I'm sorry man. Hey at least you'll be a wizard soon
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>>183619289
>tournies
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>>183621640
>45 open ground with lots of wall carry
>60 with wall splat

i play this char and i know he's scummy.
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>>183621731
Thanks for the (You), I knew at least one of you fags couldn't help yourselves
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Let's play a game, based on this information, what character is this?
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>>183621640
yeah if you do the baby combo
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>>183621446
That's a hell sweep though.
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>>183621713
No, I love it.
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Who here plays with an xbox controller? Is it true its the worst way to play tekken?
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>>183621879
Drag
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>>183621879
Bob or Dragunov.
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>>183621879
it's drag but I'm not sure what's supposed to be so good about his ws punishers
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>>183621879
This is not edited
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>>183622110
devil jin?
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>>183622110
Josie
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P.Ling really had nothing there
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p.ling is such a fraud
lmao
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>>183622110
ling
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>>183622242
Yah
>>183622267
>>183622326
Nah DJ
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>mfw green ranks on ps4 is just 2 guys trading hop kick and snake edge combos for 3 minutes
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ling's armpit game is top notch
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>>183622308
Yeah, how dare he lose to the second best player in the country!
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should I feel bad about cheesing light blue ranks with devil jin's laser beams?
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>>183622408
thats not the point
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>Jack
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>>183622452
no they are so heavily telegraphed, if they don't rape you after every single one they deserve it.
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>it's always some waifu faggot or "2d is all I Need" nigger that's lagging uncontrollably
anyone with this stupid shit are instantly dc'd
I won't even bother anymore
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>>183621640

Don't underestimate Devil Jin's Hellsweep, bub.
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>>183622110
What's the point of having so many mishima archetype characters when Devil Jin has the best parts of all mishimas with none of their weaknesses?
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Out of all the matches on stream in this top 8 how many have had a Jack in them?
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https://youtu.be/Z9nj8Jv6vX4?t=1m20s

Can someone help me with this Devil Jin combo? It's hellsweep into EWGF, I can only get it like 2/10 times. Is the timing really strict or should I be trying to sidestep/crouch cancel before doing EWGF?
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>>183622856
He comes with the most retarded look of them all.
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>>183621640
>>183621825
>>183621886
listen up KID. devil jin is the hardest to execute, hardest to master character in this game. if you lost to devil jin, it means you got outskilled AND outplayed. it means the devil jin had to calculate his every move and land all his just frame electrics to win the game while you were facerolling your running 2's and your death fists. just face it. your character takes no skill, and its only natural that you lose to a character that does.
>>183622779
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>>183622856

Devil Jin doesn't have a 1,1,2 that wallsplats, nor a i13 WS launcher, etc.
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>>183622779
unseeable low launchers shouldn't be in the game
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It's so satisfying when Jack's ff1 hits.
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>>183622943

No, Devil Jin's sweep leaves you standing, so you don't have to crouch cancel. I realized its easier for me to pull it off when I land the sweep closer to them, maybe you should try that.
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>>183622408
wait who's the first?
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>>183594793
nice youtube links stupid idiot
this is just the same guy that always fucks that up isn't it
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Kazumi is such a fucking scrubby character I swear man
tigers everywhere, fly mixups, fast ws, tigger gimmciks
it's good that her lows are complete trash but damn this cunt is so boring to go against
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>>183623307
Jimmy
>>
aaaaaaaaaa wavedashing and electrics feel really goooood
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Kazuya is the most honest char in the game
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>>183623379

>Speedkicks better than Inkog.
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>>183623327
>>183595783
I already got called a waifu shitter for no reason
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>>183622969
This is a good pasta. And if it's not one, it should be.
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>even speedkicks is playing Jack
Seriously there has to be some secret tech with him
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>>183623481
>Not kazumi
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>>183623563
His mids actually work like mids, which is great in this matchup
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WAN TUU
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>>183623570
>Not Heihachi
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>>183623379
Hmm, Jimmy.

Yeah that tracks.
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The real question is

Who is heihachi's mom?

Will we finally have a female character with a legit electric and hellsweep in tekken 8?
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>>183623506
inkog doesn't even live in usa anymore.
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>>183623570
>Kazumi
>honest
you're a literal retard if you believe this
Steve is the most honest character in the game
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>>183623679
We don't need more Mishimas. And yes, I do know what game this is.
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>>183623649
LUCKY
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>>183623679
The first female that'll have this will be devil asuka
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>>183623679

A prostitute Jinpachi entertained himself with.
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>>183623753
Heihachi died tho so it'll be shitty without him he's my favorite one to play
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>>183623850
Kazumi died ages ago yet she's in the game, no?
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>>183623850
Yeah like that'll stop them. They introduced kazumi as a proper character and killed her off in the same game and she's STILL a playable character.
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>>183623753

We do need more Mishimas now that Heihachi is gone.
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What is the point of Kazuya's WS2 when his WS1,2 exists?
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>>183623970
the devil will resurrect him
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>>183623713
what the fuck
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>>183623942
was done b4 with ogre too
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Mishima's ARE Tekken yet the best Mishima is a Kazama lmaoooo
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>>183623992
Higher damage combo potential
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>>183623554

are you playing your girly characters barefooted?
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If this is a Jack vs Jack final I'm going to punch your waifu in the dick
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Jinpachi + X = Heihachi
Heihachi + Kazumi = Kazuya
Kazuya + Jun = Jin

Guess heihachi's mom's name

Heitani
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what's with all these 17ers who hate jack? jack is fundamentals: the character. saying you hate watching jack is like saying you're bored by tekken. bunch of smash-tier babies who cant be entertained unless there's a bunch of flashy kirby vs donkey kongs going on. if you get bodied by a jack that just means the other guy is better at tekken than you.

inb4
>t. jack main

i play akuma and steve
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>>183624049
Mishimas are tekken yet none of them are worth playing unless you like spamming ewgf
So how about that
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>>183624136
that doesnt make sense
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Guys jack isn't top tier despite this dude only using 2 moves haha
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>>183624136
He won't pick Jack in any other matchup. The only reason he it againt Ling is to not have his mids crushed.
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J A K K E N 7
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>>183624186
Regular Jin is good without electrics
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>>183623992
way bigger damage, way more range, homing, longer stun/launch for better combo routes.
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>>183624212
Guys I still don't understand the tier lists that get posted here haha
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>>183624186

that's not true, they spam their WS launchers instead
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>>183624181
I hate Jack because he looks like he's sitting on an invisible chair as his idle stance
It makes me uncomfortable

That's literally the only thing I have against him, he's cool otherwise. Cute and the most honest in both personality and gameplay.
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>>183624251
Jin is a filthy Kazama though, DJ is the Mishama version.
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guys

the most honest character is boviously jin
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>>183624146
n-nani?!
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>>183624232
Ling babby got blown up when he couldn't just crush every single move his opponent has. The right player won.
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>>183624274
what makes Jack low tier?
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>>183623679
electrics and hellsweeps are too manly
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>>183623649
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>>183624328
>boviously
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Guys Im getting worried, Jack-7 might kill Tekken 7. Its been going so well too, but he is terrible for spectators. Its Bob all over again.
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>>183623713
>steve is the most honest character

nigga i play steve and let me tell you i got some bullshit up my sleeve
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>>183624396
No sideways movement. No mid poke with decent frames and tracking.
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>>183624328
This, the Patrician combo is playing Jin and Feng

Totally not because I play them :^)
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>>183624419
Holy shit
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Anakin is just fucking around at this point
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>jdcr says jack is shit
>scrubs in tekgen say he's top tier

Hmmmm whose word should I trust???
>>
Tall Paul
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>>183624764
how many matches this top 8 have had Jack?
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>>183624764
tournament play
JDCR is a lying faggot
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>>183624925
How many has he won?
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>>183624764
How many times is this gonna be posted? Might as well be pasta by now
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>>183625046
checkmate athiests
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>always a Jack in top 8, sometimes multiple
>Always does well
>Saint plays Jack
>Anakin plays Jack and plays Paul for a joke to fuck with people
HE IS BAD GUYS SHUT UP
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Will we ever see a Kazuya vs Heihachi final?
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>>183624764
IF JACK IS SO SHIT, THEN WHY DO SO MANY TOP PLAYERS USE HIM
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Hopefully I play normal again tommorow, for some reason I couldnt even do basic shit today and everything just went wrong
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>>183625208
so that less people watch, to kill the game. koreans are capcom spies
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>>183625046
Quite a lot, both those in final play Jack
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>>183625143
nobody plays kaz in tournaments so probably not
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>>183625143

Kazuya is bad in tournament, that's why you almost never see him in Top 8. Kodee is a good Kaz player, but he'd place alot better if he switched to Devil Jin imo
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>>183625239
I had a promo match into yellow today
2 hours later I dropped into marauder
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>>183624328
Jin's F4 actually seems kind of cheap. Reminds me of a better version of Biridie's standing mk. Might honestly be better because it launches on CH and there are so many mix ups with it.


anakin should just main Paul and be a true American hero.
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>>183625208
Everyone but Koreans are shit so tiers don't matter for them.

>>183625294
Anakin has only played Paul. Speedkicks lost one and won one set with him.
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why the fuck did harada think making ff1 a thing was a good idea for jack

it's so fucking stupid
>>
The thing is, most of you retards couldn't do shit with jack while Bryan, Leo and Dragonuv scrubs are always two ranks higher than they deserve to be.
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>>183624764
The guy playing Jack has a vested interest in making people think that Jack is bad. If people think the character is too good then Jack might nerfed, making that player's job harder.
>>
>jack is good because pros play him
>jack is bad because pros said so
are you people retarded or can you not just look at jack's capabilities and cons as a character and tell how good he is? does anyone here actually play tekken?
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>>183625486
When has JDCR played Jack?
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>death fist wins a tournament
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*gorilla noises*
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>>183625524
what's tekken
>>
>>183624764
Yeah, my best bud's character is shit, please buff him! Kappa
>>
>Every top 8 will be a Jack fest
>JDCR is till gonna dominate everything
Competitive tekken is dull desu
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>>183625524
Stream monsters don't play video games.
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>>183625441
What does Bryan have that's cheap outside of snake edge? I mean if you're STILL not blocking it that's you're own fault. Nothing better then teaching a Bryan their snake edge isn't gonna work
>>
Results > on paper

Jack is a good character.
>>
Death Fist for life
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>>183625486
Fuck off. The general was finally good without your bitch ass shitting it up.
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>>183625619
OSU!
>>
>>183625486

What an unbelievably stupid post.
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>>183625360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKM1AAzeRCg
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>>183625760
>finally good
>still filled with the same character whining as always
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I don't normally hate Jack but speedkicks is so boring to watch. At least Saint plays aggressively.
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>>183625909
thats what makes it good, dum dum
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>>183625995
I don't think Speedkicks really knows the ins and outs of Jack. He only uses him against Xiaoyu.
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so I started playing King with NO CHAINGRABS or special grabs like shining wizard (except for his juggle combo finisher of course) and people STILL losequit after one match. What the fuck is up!?
>>
How can anyone say this game is balanced. The tournament """meta""" is an absolute degeneracy. All these Jacks and Lings and counterpicking, fuck off
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>>183625896
>I got something deep inside of me

you will when you get hit by deathfist.
>>
>>183625046
He won both EVO and KOIF 2016
>>
>>183626085
>>183626162
Unga Bunga
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>>183626162
maybe they just really like jack

:^)
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>>183626220
Downvoted, autist
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>>183625690
I'm talking yellow and higher here, where you feel how strong their fundamentals are in nearly every field.

Especially Drag and Bryan can drive me against the wall, when a lucky off axis hit suddenly turns into a full dmg juggle most characters couldn't even pick up from there, bonus points if it was a double hit.
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>>183626210
>>183625046

And CEO of this year
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>>183626162
Don't worry, a hero has emerged to save us from those damn nazis.
>>
>>183626284
What am I supposed to be looking at?
>>
>>183626240
Oh yea, Jack is the most handsome, entertaining, charismatic and fun to play character (^:
>>
>>183626240
:^)
:o)
>>
>>183626210
>>183626354
Saint is just a god. If anything, people winning with Jack shows that tiers hardly matter.
>>
>>183626354
>>183626210
Yeah that has nothing to do with Saint being a Tekken god. He just got carried by SSS tier Jack.
>>
>>183626162
na dood jack is suuuper low tier
>>
>>183626402
your average waifu shitter
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>>183626324
Me unga you bunga
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>Whatcha gonna do when quarter circle forward 2 runs WILD on you?!
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JDCR wins everything but you don't see people calling Heihachi unga, Jack is pretty unga desu
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>>183626497
If anything, these player pick Jack specifically. They switch their years of experience mains to quickly learn Jack and make it to top 8 easily.
>>
>>183626397
I know people hate Paul for being unga, but I find him more fun to watch than Jack. Too bad Anakin still mains Jack for major tournaments.
>>
>>183626497
>>183626525

Oh no, I wasn't trying to downplay Saint's wins, he's one of my favorite players. I was just listing which tournaments he's won with Jack.
>>
>>183626649
god jdcr is so perfect
>>
>>183626649
is that the same table where daigo was drunk in that vid and calling justin wong free
whatis that place
>>
>>183626662
Anakin seems to be trying to drop Jack for Paul. Saint started playing Jack/Bob in late Tag 2 and has stuck with him since.
>>
>>183626746
bet you'd do lots of kbd'ing on his stick
>>
>>183626909
on his shrimp willie?
>>
>>183626662
>>183626804

Only Saint is alright tho. He mained him before and Ganryu isn't in T7 (his previous main) so...
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>>183626668
The most unga thing about Paul is that he's incredibly simple 50/50 with insane damage and for me that makes him fun to watch.

In a game of Tekken where everyone is doing such crazy shit you have this Mad Max crossed with Polnareff punch man that explodes you for a billion damage in five hits. If every character was like that or he was played constantly, it'd get boring. But he's really not common at crazy high levels so seeing him once in awhile played by super talented guys like Rushcash or Anakin is actually kind of cool.

It's like watching a crazy skilled swordsman using a baseball bat and winning.
>>
>>183626804
Is Anakin actually changing from Jack to Paul? I thought he was just changing it up for this tournament since none of the big Korean players were in it.
>>
>>183626804
>Anakin seems to be trying to drop Jack for Paul.
no he isn't, he did it here cause he could easily meme on people who were playing like shit
>>
>>183625585
JDCR and Saint are connected at the dickbutt.They are always going to defend one another.
>>
>>183627092
>>183627128
Can't know for sure, but it's his highest ranked character online and he has said before that he doesn't believe that Jack can beat JDCR.
>>
>>183627080
I hear ya, I like him for the same reasons.
>>
>>183596690
How much damage does this do and is the combo supposed to start with EWHF, EWHF or EWHF, CDS 3+4, or is it just one EWHF into the combo? My execution is so shit can someone test this? Inb4 it's like 64 damage for this bitch of a combo. I'm so close to switching to Devil Jin. It's not worth having to murder my hands to do 20 damage while DJ does 80 for like nothing.
>>
why does heihachi keep rambling whenever he gets hit?
>>
>>183627080
>>183627236
hey tekken 7 is my first fighting game. what do you mean by 50/50? is the guessing game where once you get knocked down paul will either do his deathfist which hits mid or demoman which hits low and you have to choose which way to block?
>>
>>183627217
>Can't know for sure,
You are making up

>he doesn't believe that Jack can beat JDCR.
no one can beat JDCR

I don't know why you are trying so hard to cover for the game. Top 8s always have a Jack, he is clearly an incredibly solid tournament character who is always going to get a lot of play. But for a viewer that i boring, same as bob.
>>
>>183627428
>my execution is shit
>wants to play devil jin

really makes my almonds grow
>>
>referring to characters by their surname
>>
>>183626284
>overly busy overlay
>takes up space on Tekken screen
>can barely read chat on side
>super shitty mic

How can anyone watch this?
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>>183627217
here is your payment
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Top 8's have Jack because he performs better in shorter sets. He's also impossible to fuck up at high levels of play so you can just always stick to your turtle game and play a simple game of keepout Tekken. There's not a ton you can do about it.
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>>183627608
i agree
i play sergei btw
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>>183627608

You're right, I'll start calling her "Stupid little Chinese cunt" from now on.
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>>183627681
*hellsweeps your turtle*
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>>183627467
I'm sure we'll get the answer the next time he streams. Look at the highest ranks in Korea and Japan, hardly any Jacks there. Would you nerf him so he will do even worse in high level play to make American tournaments less "boring"?
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>>183627457
yeah that's basically it. they either have to block demoman or deathfist. don't block demoman and you get slammed into the wall and put in the same situation. don't block deathfist and you eat a buttload of damage and get slammed into the wall and put into the same situation.

It's the Paul blender and he does it better than anyone else because the stakes are so high, i.e. getting pushed into the wall and eating a shitload of damage on your way there.
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>>183627586
DJ requries the least amount of execution among the Mishimas. If you don't do a perfect EWHF with jin you wont get a launch (even if you do it's 20 damage) meanwhile you will do 70 off a plain wgf with DJ.
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>>183627854
the general consensus among players seem to be that you do very well with jin without electrics

meanwhile dj without electrics is kinda ass
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>>183594979
Good feels at shitter ranks
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>>183627782
yes

>b-but koreans
A character being that consistent for low effort needs balanced.
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>>183594979
After 2 weeks of not playing I went back into Treasure Battle and finally unlocked the costume I wanted
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>MurderK: “In truth, though, speaking of Ganryu, if you look at the characters that Saint picks, isn’t it a bit hard to say that they’re good characters?”

>Saint: “There are a lot of shitty characters [among the ones I picked]. Bob is ok, but…”

>JDCR: “From the ones you’ve chosen up until now...at the very first, it was Ganryu, then you chose Bob, then Jack, then Eddy…”

>Saulabis: “Eddy…”

>JDCR: “Eddy was pretty good in Tag 2. But Jack and Ganryu…”

>Saint: “Jack and Ganryu were fat and got hit easily. Friends that played female characters and so on were a bit hard for me to deal with. When I first used Jack at a tournament, I lost a LOT. To the point where I said to Jeondding, ‘Hyung, I won’t ever play Jack again - I’m sorry’ about three times over. When Jeondding was carrying our team, I would be like, ‘Hyung, let me try [Jack] just once’ and then I would go out there and get my ass beat.”

>- This was during the era where Jeondding played probably the best Lucky Chloe in the country

>Saint: “Jeondding would almost always take out two to three people every time he went out during a tourney. So every time I got beat in a local tourney and came back to the team, I’d always be like, ‘Sorry.’ I think I just repeated that phrase for about a year, and I’d say that I’d give up Jack about four times during that.”

>Saulabis: “But you kept using Jack.”

>Saint: “I don’t know whether I just got used to him or not, but...after that sort of [learning] process, I ended up with some results in the FR era...so garbage characters are usually like this.”

>MurderK: “Why did you pick these characters, though?”

>Saint: “A lot of people have asked me that - ‘Why do you pick these shitty characters? Is there a reason you do well with them?’ And I’m like, ‘I don’t even know myself, how could [I tell you]...?”
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how did jinpachi and angel play in tag 2
were they gud
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more like dreamjack
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>>183627457
Yes, you understood it well. 50/50 is a situation where your reaction is or close to irrelevant and you have to make a decision what to block.
50/50 actually fucking sucks and obviously a shit game mechanic but gladly it's weaker in Tekken. There isn't real hard 50/50's
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>>183628072

why...
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>>183627608
>Xio
>Xioa
>Xiaiu
>Xiaoyu
>Fuck it, I'll call her Ling
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>>183594979
I made Brawler with Eliza. Please don't make fun of me
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>>183628210
>not Shaoyu
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>>183628048
>out of all the characters in the game, let's nerf the one in bottom 5 of every tier list
Thanks, /tekgen/
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>>183628210
sha oh you
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What defines low and high iq characters, not just for tekken, but for fighting games as a whole?
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/r/ing that dank fucking ff3 combo for Heihachi. I saw a webbum here a few days ago.
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>>183628004
So basically what your saying is if I want to beat off to electrics I should just switch to Devil Jin? It's a shame, because I like the way the hook first looks. Too bad jin requires retarded back forward micro dashes to damage.
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>>183624181
I hate Jack because of his retarded design, animations and sounds. I don't really mind his play style, but he looks fucking stupid.
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>>183628381
What other bottom, fuck that what character in general is always in top 8? Not even Ling, Drag, Leo or DJin manage that
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>>183628426
high iq characters are the ones I play and low iq are the ones you play
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>>183628205
Just having some fun, mate
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>>183625774

Why has he always pronounced that as "bush"?
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>>183628426
Here is an honest answer. Low IQ tend to be very flow charty and auto piloty while high IQ requires more situational awareness and more quick adaptations in a match.
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when are they going to punish ragequitting properly
incompetent faggots
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>>183628894
Is Steve a high IQ then? Or is he flowcharty? Asking seriously, I want to try him, but I already have a low IQ main.
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>>183628496
jin is the coolest character in the game, if you already put a lot of time into him just stick to it. you'll get all the girls with that character.
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>>183628949
if ur so dissatisfied make ur own game lmao
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>>183628603
It's always the same players using him. Saint making a top 8 is a given at any tournament. Same goes for Anakin. This tournament was probably the first time anyone used a pocket Jack, to deal with Ling's bullshit. That could be addressed by fixing her hurtboxes so Speedkicks could play his main against her.
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>>183629085
highest of iq is needed for Steve because he's mostly looking for counter hits, which is based off reads and conditioning of the opponent.
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>>183629278
in that case, is bryan high iq too?

he's mostly a fisherman as well, after all, right?
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>>183628442
pls
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>Steve is honest

Stop this shit meme
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>>183629373
>>183628442

Do you know what moves were used after ff3? I could try to replicate it.
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Hwoarang is honest
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>>183629085
A bit of both really. There's a few duck cancels that are very flowchart and some of his pressure can feel a bit by the numbers. For the most part you need to actually think carefully if you want to win. He has no easy launchers so you're spending a lot of time fishing for counters and studying his frame data for any edge you can get.
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>>183629336
he has better lows and launchers that don't need to ch like snake edge or orbital, so not really
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[my character] is honest
everything else is dishonest unga shit

there can we never post this again
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>>183629519
EWGF, then there was a sick fucking iWS4 in there.
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>>183629607
t. Paul main
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>>183628257
At least you've made it to greens.
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what should I do as claudio after my opponent blocks his up+2 and they're kind of in a staggered state
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>>183629610
Also, the dude's name was Fandango, or something.
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>>183628257
congrats anon, hope I get to play you in green ranks
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>>183629519
>>183629610
I'm being a shitass phoneposter so I can't give you the legit webm. The notations are:
ff+3; EWGF; f+3; iWS+4; b~f+2,3; (S!) b~f+2,1
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>>183628442
uhhh i think it was
ff+3, ewgf, f+3, iWS4, b,f+2,3, f+3+4,2,1

i think
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>>183629894
>>183630002
bruh

Gonna spend the next few months practising this. Thanks.
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>>183630002
That'll only connect on Jack and Gigas. But in theory it gives the highest possible damage of 77.
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>>183629741
he's fadango i think. he's supplied some great combo webms of steve, bryan, and some other characters
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>>183630123
nooo... don't become another execution autist with no fundamentals
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>>183629719
it's only +9 and they are pushed out kinda far so no real followup pressure, maybe dash forward f+3 if you feel like putting yourself at -9 again

>>183630158
right i only have passing knowledge of having fooled around with heihachi for about a week, i would assume there is a different ender that would connect on everyone though, maybe another ff+3 or dash f+2,3 or something
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>>183630243
I'd give away my life savings to get a taste of his cock.
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Which is better to do after a f,f 1 with Jack?

d/f2? Debugger? b, hcf, d/f 1?
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Square or octagonal?
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>>183630317
Fair enough, f+2,3 will hit for wall carry but it's stupidly tight. Easiest ender is b~f+2,1 for 75 damage, or do d/f+1,1 for wall carry.
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>>183630568
b, hcf, d/f 1 if you can consistently land it.
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>>183630568
blue spark is the only guaranteed option. db4 might be guaranteed too but does very little damage
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>>183630349
i don't know about all that but i'm indebted to him as well for helping me get a combo off of steve's FC d/f+2
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>>183630652
Square.
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>>183630691
right i'll keep that in mind for when i switch to maining heihachi after i learn lee because a friend dared me to get excellent with him
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>>183631275
>having friends
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>>183630946
I found some weird floats with Steve's d/b+3,2 the other day while in a player match. I need to look into it properly but it seems like off of certain hits it floats like it used to in T6 and should give a f+2,1 followup into DCK f+2
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>>183631351
i know right what a loser having me as a friend hahaha haha ha
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why can't I get brown color for hair in customization? it just gives me some kind of yellow-ish color when I select one of the brown palettes
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>>183631419
>d/b+3,2
>steve
????
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I got cucked out of promos 3 times today ;_;
once by a ragequit
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>>183631685
custom colors
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>>183631705
the toe stomp into right hook
like the only good low steve has
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>>183631705
Little stomp with impossibly short range.
Missable at point blank.
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>>183631773
oooooooohhhh yeeeeaaaahhhhh
i totally forgot about that.
my bad man. i wasn't just pretending to be retarded, either. that was all real.

>mfw i used that move multiple times today and still didn't recognize the command
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Im bored and want to learn a new character. Im thinking of learning one of the michimas, mainly heiachi.

1. Which is the best michima?
2. Is it heiachi?
3. Pad or stick for a michima?
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Anyone on PS4 NA would like to play? I really wanna play Bryan
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>>183632036
kazumi
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>>183629894
>>183629610

I literally could not do the f3 variation of it.
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>>183632041
What coast? Is this who I think it is?
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>>183632036
overall best is dvj
heihachi is mid counterhit madman big damage dude
kazuya is lots of backdashes and whiffpunishes dude
dvj is good at everything not a single area he's weak in dude

probably stick for mishima because i dunno
try hitbox if you have one or keyboard if you don't it's the best
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>>183628143
Jinpachi was fucking stupid but Angel was trash.
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>>183632036
Depends on what you want to achieve. Heihachi has one of the best pressure games out of the end entire roster but demands high execution to get the best damage.
Devil Jin is the best all rounder and has the most rewarding 50/50s. He also has the benefit of easy execution launchers.
Kazuya has pretty good defence and some real nasty counterhits. He does lack tools in comparison to the other two but still has good 50/50s and pressure.
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>>183632303
>hitbox
>best
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>>183632036
Devil jin> Heihachi ≥ Jin > Kazuya
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>>183628143

Jinpachi was kind of like Kazumi. She stole a few moves from him. And Angel was just a garbage variation of Kazuya.
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>>183632167
It's actually easier to hit with f+3. Delay it a little bit more than the electric version. Visually confirm the end of the animation when practicing it.
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>>183631764
ye but I can't get proper brown hair, like it's not possible. kinda annoying
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>>183632289
Canada and it's love dawn
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I'm having problems against turtlers as katarina

What do?

Right now I try to dash up and get my 1+2 grab but if they break it I'm in trouble. Since after that I only got my strings to try and open them up.
>>
>>183632303
wavedashing on keyboard is hell what are you on about
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>>183632692
Try shooting yourself in the head
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>>183632593

I'll keep that in mind. I should also turn on Recovery Animations to get a feel for it. Thanks.
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>>183632416
for mishimas specifically it's the best because ewgf is piss-easy on hitbox

also i am playing about 50/50 keyboard/stick rn and i'm finding that keyboard is better for input buffering and precise things like kbd and b~f stuff and such, less travel time since the inputs are binary and you don't have to throw the stick all the way from the left to the right and such

matter of taste of course but yeah i think hitbox might be better than stick for tekken, though that doesn't mean you can't get consistently good at those things on stick either
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>>183632303
>>183632407
>>183632516

Well looks like i will be learnig that edgy jin after ive done 48 more matches to get me to 2000, its a shame because heiachi looka the coolest
>>
>>183632303
>>183632407
How did you guys forget regular jin? Regular jin is like Devil jin except, maybe a slightly better poking game, way less forgiving and lower damage?
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>>183630568

On hit? Either db2 or b, hcf, d/f1
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>>183632831
>giving a shit about what some basement dwelling neckbeards say on the internet

Play whoever you feel like. Also, Heihachi is a fucking badass.
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>>183632650
fugg, I'm nowhere near good enough but if you don't mind playing a scrub I'm still up for it.
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>>183632807
How are you doing your iWS? To get it to hit I always do f~n~qcf+4, that way I know it's always a perfect frame iWS.
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>>183632737
u wot
it's literally repeated cd input it's not that hard

>>183632831
really though if you want to paly heihachi play heihachi man, it's not like dvj is so much better he will carry you on his winged back straight to tekken god prime while heihachi will leave you floating in the shitrivers of low dans

dvj is still a mishima and is still technical because of it, and heihachi is baller as fuck and hits so hard you'll be surprised at thow much hurt you will dish out with just a couple good hits into proper big-boy combos

hei's good, kaz's good, dvj's good, jin(lmao) is also good but very different
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>>183633092

Yeah, I do it the exact same way. I tried testing buffering a db after electric, and then doing ws4, but it always comes out slower.
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>>183633208
it just feels a lot more natural for me on pad

cant speak for stick
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0-4 Jin
5-9 Devil Jin

Time to settle this.
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>kazuyas spin move that hits mid/high and then spins low

why do these things even exist they're fucking retarded
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>>183633495
how to block
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>>183633030
It's cool I'm sick of playing Mishima's just wanna play my main
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>>183633495

Block the first 2 hits and it stops him
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>>183633273
Definitely, some people try to do it as CD~n+4 as well which is too slow. A good way to practice the f+3 pickup is to do
EWGF; EWGF; f+3; iWS+4; b~f+2,3
EWGF launches higher and gives a couple more frames to play with. If you hit it a little too late it also acts as a refloat trap for people not techrolling.
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>Fight some Fighter Xiayou faggot
>Throws the game after taking off a round, then adds me to complain about the lag (4 bars the whole match)
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Any of you check out the Steam forums while waiting between gaming? The shit being posted there is both hilarious and sad at the same.
>>
So what exactly are the differences between snake edges and hellsweeps? Do both types of moves just look different?
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>>183634378
Snake edges track all the way around your character and hellsweeps are sidestep-able. Hellsweep also come out of crouch dashes.
>>
Who /shaheen/ here?
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>>183634378
hellsweep is generally an unseeable fast low that KND/juggles..

snake edge is basically a slow sweep that crushes and launches.
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>>183634378
You can react to snake edges and you cant react to hellsweeps. Also snake edges usually lead to full combos while hellsweeps do not unless your name is Jin. (those combos are much weaker than a standard combo though)
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>>183634378
Snake edges are slow and reactable
Hellsweeps are unreactable and give a knockdown
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>>183634378
do you even know what hellsweep is?

snake edge is a slow-ass low launcher, hellsweep is an unreactable low that either gives a launch combo (dvj, heihachi) or does decent damage and loops into the same mixup (kaz)
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>>183634195
remove juggles from game
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Man it's quite hard to EWGF on pad
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>Still no Lei DLC
>instead we get a 2D fighting game guest character

This seems pretty odd.
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>>183633898

>If you hit it a little too late it also acts as a refloat trap for people not techrolling.

Oh wow, the more I know. Does it catch people trying to get up by holding back?
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>>183634646
You don't even use him. Shut the fuck up
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>>183634620
Almost every high rank player do only juggle starters and combos. Punch you in the corner and finish you! This games sucks, you got no chance to high ranked players! You cant do anything wihile juggling in the air! this

I know it's part of the Tekken series but i better play SFV again. And please save the comment "git gud"

You lose almost 50% HP on one juggle combo! -.-
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>>183634489

Kind of. I just know how to do juggles with him. Shaheen players are a rare breed in these parts.
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>>183634646
Good riddance to that faggot.
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>>183634629
I can do 50 in ~60 seconds as Kaz and hei. A little difficult with DJ tho I play on pad
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>>183634743
he play normaly but when he feel he lose ,he start to play juggle.
hhahhaahah i tell u juggle is just for low. juggle =no brain. if the develloper no change gameplay byeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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>>183634869
Yea we don't want any interesting characters. Can't have that
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>>183634646
The strange thing is that the returning characters wouldn't be too hard to add, since they could easily just port them over from Tag 2 and add a Rage Art/Drive to them. I'm surprised there hasn't even been one returning character as DLC yet.
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>>183634658
Yep, it's a refloat like Baek's old d/b+3,3~f; d/b+3,3~f pickup. So it hits just before the opponent fully rests on the ground, only techrolls are able to escape it. If it successfully hits it will reset the momentum counter but won't reset any tailspins.
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>>183634923

>Lei
>Interesting

Go back to Aris' chat where you can circlejerk about Lei there with the other retards instead.
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Lei is fucking INFURIATING I'm so happy that fucking faggot is not in this game
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>>183635258

ok, enjoy your fights against katarina,chloe and akuma
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>>183635029
Here's an old video showing Baek's float trap. The same mechanic applies to He's late iWS+4.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BpJo1lUAuk4
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>>183635038
>>183635258
He's really unique, and a classic character though. I mean a lot of people hate eddy and king but everyone knows deep down that they belong in the game.
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>>183635038
Million stances Jackie Chan is interesting. You have shit taste
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>>183635258
>fucking faggot
At least you make it easy to disregard your posts
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>>183635719
>>183635719
>>183635719
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>>183635440

I actually remember Baek had this shit.
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>>183628072
what is wrong with her ankles? why are all the women's legs so thick, like a bit disproportionately thick
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>>183621016
gigas
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>>183625656
This guy gets it.
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