/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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Ringu City playthrough soon lads!

Why are so many people at irithyll such shitters

I have 100 hours of PvE experience and pretty much zero time spent on PvP and I still stomp people

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cute!!

>>183634501

I've always found it funny how the Darkmoon had at least a 50/50 chance of not getting a concord from that

Speaking of, how does the game actually decide if you get a Concord or not? I've had times where I've just been summoned as the invader is dying and gotten Concords, and times I've been landing blows and killing multiple invaders in a single sitting and not gotten any

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>>183634873

>>183634809
If you're talking about Aldrich Faithful invasions, they suck dick yeah.

>>183634943
>save her life
>don't talk to me
What the fuck was her problem?

>>183634929
1. It has to be a red/purple that dies, yiffs and Aldrichfags don't count, and red sign enemies (perhaps summoned for a FC) also don't count
2. You have to be fully loaded into the world as the invader dies (extended death animation may help with this)
3. Otherwise, you get your Proof when the host walks into the boss fog.

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>>183634873

Did anyone ever get her sliders? I'm somewhat tempted to make a cosplay build and just force some poor pricks to lead me around in co-op

Here's Sirris' sliders I believe, might be wrong though, could be Shira

>>183634689
fatty

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Haven't played in a few months, any hints about the next soulslike yet?

What do you do about hide-and-go-seek ring bow users shitting up fight clubs?

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>>183634996
She was never intended to speak, why her tongue was cut out in the first place. And after being murdered by some maniac in gold armor, soul stolen, and inexplicably restored by tossing said soul onto her lifeless body, anyone would be shaken up by the ordeal and need some time to pull together after the experience.

>>183635295
Dark Souls remake

>>183635195

I'm not sure how accurate that is, I thought Aldrich Faithful dropped Proof of Concord Well Kept, being sworn enemies and all that. The situation I mentioned where I got the concord on load I hadn't even fully stood up from the spawn, and I've managed to load in before, run around for all of a minute, have the host go through the boss fog and not get a concord

>>183635249
That's Shira's. Here's Irina's:
https://imgur.com/kcJsH1Q

>>183634873
>>183634996
They should've just deleted the main FK and let players level up at bonfire.
Then give player the Lothric tomb at the high wall, so they can unlock Irina's good ending early. Then she can stay in FL.

Give her the prettier model though.

>>183635481
Well Kepts are earn through defeating an invading Red spirit who has the Aldrich Faithful covenant item equipped, but is not invading as a Faithful.
It's that or Reds who have a sin count, and because sin is such an obscure and confusing mechanic in 3, that's out of the question.

I am a newer player trying to do a quality build I guess.

I just don't know what weapon suits me? I like so many but I can feel that a lot of them are shit. Right now my highest upgraded weapons are the carthus curved GREAT sword and the carthus shotel.

I was going to like a "carthus swordsman"fluff wise I guess. I really like the sellsword armor which I am using right now.

However, I just don't know what weapons I should be using? I also kind of like the black blade and the greatbows. Also, why are there so many slashing weapons in this game? I just got to lothric castle after killing dancer and the knights take so little damage. Why is that? I am level 75.

>>183635481
I think well kept ones are from invaders that have killed a lot of hosts

>>183635495
Sirris looks better, and so does Shira.

>>183635630
The knights are armored so they probably take reduced damage from slashy weapons.

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>make an Onyx blade focused build
>go throught most of the game jsut fine destroying everyone
>get to TRC

>>183635794

yeah that is what I figured, I guess they will just shit all over me until I can upgrade another weapon. Finding titty chunks are so hard though. I have not encountered a enemy that drops them yet. I have only found them on corpses and shit.

What is a good "quality" thrusting weapon or.. strike weapon?

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>>183635956
Despite it being lackluster in most regards, the Executioner's Greatsword reaches half decent AR on Quality, while dealing exclusively Strike.

>>183634501
Sup guys, currently on my first run of DS3 and up to Lothric; loving it. Is there a password for Chanbro's to get together and fuck around?

>>183635956
Maybe a spear or R2s on the Astora great sword.

I'm thinking of making a Berenike/Black Iron Knight-style character. 66 Str, minimum Dex, sufficient Vig and End, pump Vit?

>>183635956
The best quality strike weapon is the final boss soul weapon of the second DLC. Until then things like every basic Great Hammer and the Mace would be good options you could use. For thrusting weapons you can also use the Estoc, Red Hilted Halberd, the Warpick and Lucerne.

>>183630014

>full health
It's not like dark souls 2 were your health ticks down from your starting health when you die.

You don't start with embered health so it is considered bonus health.

Are black firebombs generally frowned upon in arena/fightclub?

>>183633717
I never realised how cringe an anime version of Dark Souls would be

even though it's a complete rip off, the game actually does actually look pretty good though

>>183634131
Run attack until they want to kill themselves

>>183634943
Thanks I am Gay now

>>183636091
>Chanbros
It's *Cringe*

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>5 bracksteer katana
>5 alonne helms
>6 alonne chests
>6 alonne gloves
>8 alonne leggins

DUDE
BOSS CORRIDORS
LMAO

Alonne himself was absolutely amazing, and easily my favorite fight in the game, I just don't understand why they wen't full retard with the boss corridors.

PCFC?

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How am I supposed to ration out these stats?

>>183638106
>Le BREBARE TO DIE XDDD

>>183638106
Just run past it.

>>183638171
Skip Morne's, put on Chain. You can also save a point or two by switching class to pyromancer if you don't want Vitality.

>>183638132
BF?

>>183638459
If you host, then i'll be whatever you want me to be.

>>183638376
You can't. They are super fast and one literally blocks the door so you can't go past him. You can't even lure him because the lizards are shooting shit at you. You can't enter the fog gate either.

>>183638650
I've done it before, I started memorizing the layouts of the rooms and when it was safe to stop and heal. Trying to fight everything will kill you.
It was worth it to see Alonne slide around on the floor like he was wearing roller skates. The reason he slides as such is because the floor is so polished and he's wearing socks. You scuffed his floor with your dirty shoes, which is why he's fighting you.

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Mow much poise do you need to tank a UGS 2HR1 with the Crucifix's WA?

>>183639537
About 20 should be enough, around 25 for Great Hammers.

>>183635896
It's okay shinji, at least you can still use your fire pyromancies and maybe snag a chaos longsword...

>>183635896
Just use PM on Midir.

How much poise do you need to not get fucking backstabbed mid Ledo WA after they already got hit by it?

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>>183634943
>no tsundere knight to protect you

>>183640147
No amount of poise in the world can save you from ravioli quickstep backstabs

>>183640245
>no tsundere knight with a shield that moans
>a shield that moans which is also modelled on his sister

>>183640252
It's the ones where they get hit by the WA then immediately get a backstab through that piss me off

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>>183640252
RAVIOLI RAVIOLI

>>183640510
I have to add this since you wrote RAVIOLI RAVIOLI:
Was Spongebob the first worldwide industrial high quality meme factory?

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>>183640313
i'll take what i can get

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Never used miracles in DS2 before. What's the best Chime for a pure Faith build?

>>183640880
+5 Sacred Dragon Chime (?) from that dude in the wheelchair.

>>183640510
GIVE ME THE BACKSTABOLI

>>183640245
Who allowed all these NPC Niggers like Leonhard, Eygon, Patches and Hawkwood, Sirris, Anri and Horace to come and stay at my Convoluted Time Travel Firelink Shrine

>>183641015
Thanks. Don't plan to use hexes so I guess I'll just shank him.

>>183641229
You can just kill them all if you want.

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>>183639627
Do you even need to be able to poise through ultras to beat them with the Crucifix?

>>183641406
Not him, Grandhaul or whatever.

>>183641569
No but spamming the WA with decent poise is pretty much mocking how little they can do against you.

so I'm doing a sorcerer run

I'm just gonna use longsword as my main melee weapon, what should I infuse it with? Crystal?

Why do people using 3 different weapons go to fightclubs :(

>>183642071
Muh mix ups

>>183638459
Where?

>>183642020
Yes

>>183642020
Either that or raw with an enchant.

What SL would a Crucifix suicide bomber build be most effective using the standard hypermode set up?

Was thinking 50ish for maximum potential for 1 shots with the suicide orb

>>183642071

Why not?

>>183642390
Crystal would be more consistent damage wise however and would free up an attunement slot for the dude to put something else like HSM

What level should I be before attempting ashes of ariendel DLC? I am level 77 right now and just got to lothric castle.

>>183642412
Doesn't the suicide orb scale with faith and weapon level? I don't think it will do that much damage at lower SLs

>>183642435
Seems a lot funner when you use whatever weapon you want and stick with it no matter what you're up against instead of just countering whoever you're facing

>>183642563
Raw with an enchant would do more damage, which is why I said 'either'. Both work.

>>183642575
You're fine doing it now if you want.

Do you keep your umbral ashes(the one in your inventory not the one already given) in NG+?

>>183642589
Not by much from my testing actually

Seems to scale off base AR

I'd get more AR going pure str, min req

Could be wrong though

>>183642770
Unfortunately not

You'll have to get them again

>>183642927
Alright thanks

>>183643026
You're welcome, Anon!

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is that guy who always posts webms of his sorcerer character around?
I wanted to start a sorc run but have no idea how they fucking work at all, they are nothing like pyromancers and those are the only casters I've ever tried
I summon you webm guy!

>>183640245
That's actually Anastacia of Astora from DaS. Her tsundere knight killed her and took her soul as a trophy. But she's still the best waifu in the first game.

>>183643210
That's only due to lack of competition though.

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Is /ourguy/ back?

Why are the less interesting classes of weapons always the best?

>>183643370
>11. Advertising (all forms) is not welcome—this includes any type of referral linking, "offers", soliciting, begging, stream threads, etc.

>>183643326
Some may disagree given Priscilla and Gwynevere, but Anastacia is for the thinking man; those other two draw in the plebeians who just choose the most anime-like character or the biggest rack.

>>183643140
For PvE just get a Raw/Crystal Longsword and pair it with Great Heavy Soul Arrow from Orbeck. In PvP Homing Soulmass, Great Farron Dart, Soul Greatsword and a few other spells you can switch off from like Farron Hail are your go to casts.

>>183643140
But webm guy doesn't actually know shit about dip

He just rolls with a 10 vig twink that can do nothing but delete people who don't see him coming.

>>183643554
that's playstyle wise but what about a starting class? I assume that your main focus is on Int > Att > Vigor > whatever your need for weapon reqs

>>183643679
Depends what SL you are going to

>>183643370
martyrsbrigade is back?

>>183643518

>1. Weapon-grade autism

>>183643729
80 probably, I wanna do some coop and stuff, I never like going all the way to 120 to be honest, shame this game has no de leveling mechamic

>>183643679
Sorcerer is good unless you want to use Tinder in which case Pyromancer.

>>183642607

I'll never switch weapons mid fight but sometimes like to between fights in FCs.

How do you not get shitstomped by a faith splitleaf build?

>>183643893
You're gonna have trouble fitting 60 int on an SL80 build without going maximum glass cannon. Try 27 vig, 24 att, 18 end, 55 int. Other stats left at base.

>>183644707
Don't get hit.

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>>183644770
hope you get laid

>>183635249
>voice chat with friends
>turn off monitor

>>183645336
How do you do that while hitting the guy with a splitleaf and miracles

Also, are spells like snap freeze frowned upon in duels?

>>183645609
>frowned upon in duels?
WHO GIVES A SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIT

>>183645953
Because if you do something people don't like enough and the whole reddit club chases you

>>183645609
>How do you do that while hitting the guy with a splitleaf and miracles
by only hitting him when he can't hit you

but seriously if he is a tryhard meta faggot that spams lighting arrow and is very defensive with SLGS then just swap to a different weapon that can deal with that shit. something like frayed blade or weapon with quickstep

>Also, are spells like snap freeze frowned upon in duels?
why would it be
if all you do is run away and cast snap freeze when the enemy can't hit you then maybe
but then again that wouldn't really be "frowned upon" and be something more like "what the fuck are you doing with your life"

>>183646093
That's when you bail and pull out your obscuring ring then come back with a greatbow

>>183645609
attack second

>>183643140
I'll play my sorc with you. I'll be "DOWNSCALED" though. I don't use projectile magics either.

>>183645360

Better my friend

Blindfolded with voice chat and headphones, no locking on allowed, I have to rely on the way sound carries in game (In Universe) and hope to high hell that my friend can manage to guide me from point A to point B without getting me killed

I'm seriously tempted to make a twitch channel just to do this

>>183646368
the hell do you use then?

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>>183640245
>>183640313
>>183640783

>>183640313
>>183646537

Has this post sequence been done before? I'm sure I've seen it before

>>183646480
My magic character is an illusionist.
Uses Chameleon, Hidden Body, Snap Freeze / Pest Merc, Milkring, and uses a Mail Breaker as a wand. I would use Obscuring ring too, but I'm too trash to get tongues.

As an invader what combination of armor, and weapon will make my character look non-threatening and inept?

>>183646873
Fallen Knight set

>>183646873
Full Fallen Knight or any full starting set, Dark Sword, Grass Crest Shield, traditional shitter getup

>>183646873
Shira's set
bare fists

>>183646854
well nigga with that set up I am amazed you get to do anything

>>183646854

What level are you? The easiest places to invade are Cathedral of the Deep, Catacombs of Carthus, Irithyll Dungeon, Grand Archives, The Entire Ashes of Ariandel DLC The main area covers multiple bonfires, if you invade someone who's just hit the first two bonfires you've pretty much got a free tongue from attrition alone. The second area heading towards the Gravetender just requires a bow and good aim) and the second half of the final DLC (Massive area full of near mini-boss esque enemies)

There's almost always an area around whatever level you are where it's easy to farm tongues even without any major skill in PvP

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>>183647131
I wanted to be pic related. It plays fine, but if I had the Obscuring Ring it'd be much smoother sailing.

>>183647251
If yer on PS4 I'd gladly drop one for ye, Anon

>>183647251
you just need like 10 tongues, how many so far?
though you will probably lose the silver cat ring like that

>>183647385
PC

>>183647404
I think I need 6 more.

>>183647251

If you're at irithyll Dungeon level just invade there, pestillent mercury in an area where people can have their health dropped to 1 is a ridiculously effective tool, and it's not used often enough in PvP for everyone to necessarily know what it does. Just cast it behind a door and laugh

>>183646537
>no tsundere knight to end my miserable existence

If this was you, I'm not sorry. Don't summon Red Signs into ganks next time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWCp9MWvUmw

>>183647628
That's evil

>playing dark souls 3
>hacker staggers me 1000 times in a row and destroys all my gear
>add him on steam to ask him why he is such a massive cunt
>he replies:
> " lol i been banned before "
> " lol where have you been??? "
> " this isnt ds2 "
> " you cant ban someone forwever on ds3 "
>" also you desrive this for invading! "
> " get rekt "
>im getting real tired of his shit because hes acting all edgy so i decide to block him
>get hacked by him for the rest of the evening
>everytime he invades me i have to ALT + F4 out of the game because he doesent stop staggering and throwing me into the air
>everytime i have to spend all my souls to repair my gear

Into the trash it goes. I really loved to play DS3 but the hackers ruined it for me.

>>183648229
my world
my rules
:^)

can somebody post a faith/str build pls, don't know where to best allocate my stats

GIVE ME TITTLES FOR SORCERER CHARACTERS

>>183648198
Thank you.I have been told I'm as efficient as a German from the 30s

>>183648660
>40 str
>60 faith
>some dex
>rest into stamina and health
>farm for Darkmoon Blade spell

>>183648660

Have you already made the character, and if so, what class did you pick?

What level are you aiming to be at? 80, 100, 120?

So I bough the cat ring, dropped down into the hole at Majula. Killed the rat guard, talked to the king.

Nice dude, thinks I'm gross. Don't know if I should pledge loyalty to him.

Dipped the fuck out of there when I got into the Gutter. Things were spitting at me and it was dark and spooky. I have no torches, either. Should I farm some?

Killed the Pursuer by the sex change coffin. Actually pretty easy, yay +4 longsword and actually being smart about dodging.

Went into Lost Bastille because anon told me to and because I think I kinda wasted my stone-to-flesh branches. Went by the jail, it was fun and interesting. Then, Pursuer again. Let's see if he won any more powers now.

Sorry for blogpost I wanted to keep track and ask for advice and be specific about where I am

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What for second sotfs playthrough?

hexer
bleed build (assuming it actually is a thing)
fist (caestus untill dragon bone fist)
poison (assuming it actually is a thing)
pyro

>>183648660
26 Strength for the optimal 2H bonus, 60 Faith, 18-24 ATT depending on what spells you want, around 30 Endurance, 39 Vigor of course, and 10-11 INT depending on if you want to use Crucifix and Murky Scythe/Dragonhead Shield.

>DS2
>First time undead crypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE891IHxyV8

so a friend and I are planning on playing through the Dark souls trilogy together. We're pretty far into DS1, now I'm wondering if it's better for us to do 2 or the Scholar thing next? What's the main differences?

>>183648802
>>183649085
Thanks

>>183648917
Haven't made the character yet, haven't decided on end level. Probably not 80, I'm going for a paladin so I'd like a good amount of strength or at least a yuge weapon.

>>183648692
Eccentric [name]
Scholar [name]
[name] of Vinheim/Melfin
Old/Lost Witch/Wizard [name]
You get the idea
>>183649049
How much Torch time do you have right now? Anything around an hour should be enough, and the Hollows there drop Torches.

>>183649405
>How much Torch time do you have right now?
Literally zero. I took my sweet time on No Man's Wharf, only had 20 minutes then.

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why THE FUCK can't i squeeze out a parry during straight sword R1 spam yet everybody else can?

>>183649531
Then you are going to want many more Torches, just go for enemies actively using them. They have a decent drop rate.

What happens if I kill patches in the cathedral of the deep?

>>183649405
I went with Yenna the Tutor, thanks anon

>>183649714
>enemies actively using them
I only remember that one friendly dude in No Man's Wharf honestly. Any others I should look out?

>>183648229
>add him on steam to ask him why he is such a massive cunt
this was your first mistake

>>183648660
40 vig
40 end
27 str
60 fth
enough vit for 0-35 poise (depending on what you are using)
16 dex (for splitleaf GS)
18 , 24, or 27 attunement.

>>183649953
There's a good amount of enemies with them in Huntsman's Copse, and found as loot in FotFG

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>>183649271

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/225680

This build gives you access to the best weapons for your build typew

-Murky Hand Scythe, incredible tool for dealing with heavy weapons, and more than capable of dealing with anything short of a straight sword
-Saint Bident, excellent spacing weapon, heavy damage and perfect for counterplay
-Crucifix of the Mad King, big damage weapon with a WA that still catches people out
-Great Club, just as good as on a proper STR build except now you're buffing it with DMB
-Splitleaf Greatsword, combo monster, frequently 1-shots
-Spiked Mace, same as the Splitleaf, except trades some damage for the higher poise during swing
-Lothric Knight Great Sword, excellent for using while you wait to get DMB, this weapon has inherent lightning damage making it ideal for the easier to obtain Lightning Blade. Very heavy, but makes up for that with an exceptional WA for trading with and heavy counter hits
-Winged Knight Twinaxes, disgusting damage with ease, just get up close, they have phantom range

So many more, but that aught get you started. Adjust rings to suit your needs

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The rotten has those dark magic explosions that make the screen all blurry and it's kind of disorientating.

Anybody else has a problem with that? I like doing the Rotten with low levels but I always have to look away when that happens.

>>183649067
Poison

>>183650109
>40 Vig

Meaningless softcap, go 39 or 44 at most.

>40 end

Impossible to hit with all the other stats you're doing even with chain unless you're 150.

>27

26 is effectively 40 in 3.


35 poise isn't necessary unless you're using Lothric Knight GS and want to trade with other ultras which is a bad idea since you have poisecast Sunlight Spears instead.

>27 attunement

Why? That's not a spell slot or relevant FP softcap since 24 gives you plenty already.

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>>183649187
>yfw turning on the main light in the Crypt
MEA CULPA

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>>183634689
I got stuck on the same area, but I was able to get out

>It's a duelling at Pontiffs for bone shackles but get summoned to fight clubs where I'm required to kill 3 phantoms episode
Don't you fucking dare tell me "just invadebro XDD". It's a fucking gank fight every time because invasions prioritize hosts with 3 allies

Thanks for all the build advice, guys. I'm off on my grand adventure.

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>invaded by dark spirit guts
>artorias armor and exile greatsword with lightning resin

Do Bows and Crossbows benefit more on Dex or Quality in 3?

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>>183651731
pretty sure they don't scale at all

>>183651731
Bows quality, crossbows don't scale.

>>183651789
*crossbows don't
my bad

>>183649049
Lmao, I went the other way in Bastille and the Pursuer was there again. I don't know what I expected.

Killed him easy. Got an extra souls ring, the Silver Serpent ones. Thing is I already have a +1 one.

Do rings stack?

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>>183649619
>can reliably parry other players like a boss
>can't parry a single enemy in PvE
I never know if it's me or the game.

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>>183652306
No
You can only equip one rong of a type

Oh one more quick question, if I'm going 26str/60faith should I be infusing heavy and buffing, or are there weapons that I should infuse lightning?

>>183652631
Raw + buffing

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>Awakening can't damage people for maximum disrespect

DaS3 is just one big pile of wasted opportunities, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YM65d6Dg6k

Poise was a mistake.

>>183655529
poise needs to exist before being something

>>183655529
PVP was a mistake.
All efforts should've been focused on the single player experience.

>>183654992
>scottjund video
And, closed.

>>183655939
If Nioh is anything to go by that would be a terrible idea.

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>>183650657
Hey guys what's going on in this thre-

>>183635295
Starwars Souls

>>183656110
I was talking about the giant statues of hooded figures that are so big and tall that you can't actually see the bottom of the room when you look below them.

Jesus fuck the Dragon in Heide's Tower is hard. What do I even do against that thing

Fighting the knights till I get to it is annoying enough already

>>183656368
Hug its ass. If you can sprint across the bridge and get to it before it does the fire breath, you can loop it into just doing leg stomps while you kill it.

>>183656368
>kill every enemy normally up to the stairs leading up
>sprint past the spear knight
>arrive at drake's foot while it breathes fire and stalls the spear knight
>mash r1
>kill drake
>if it isn't dead, and the spear knight is also alive, smack the feet as you run around the drake
>bait stomp attack so the drake will crush the spear knight
>repeat until both are dead

>>183656572
>>183656662
I'll try, but a bit later.

Glad to hear I can make the dragon roast the spear knight. That guy is annoying.

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I've now recently started stalk dung pieing my allies when they die.

I encourage others to do this. Useless fucks deserve no less.

>>183657454
He's easy backstab bait once you learn to read his attacks. When he does the double-swipe into jump stab, you can just strafe to your right to dodge the stab and then get a free backstab. Repeat until dead.

>>183657863
I've seen people doing it in pvp after pointing down
>muh hatemail

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>>183646953
>>183647002
>mfw I'm doing my first playthrough and this is me

Why do I get error 385 every time I try to play des?

I just got my ps3 too, latest ofw, all that jazz, even tried putting it in my routers dmz

Just knocked out Belfry Gargoyles, Lost Sinner, and Duke's Dear Freja in what has become something of a solo run. Started off summoning NPCs, then remembered how bad they suck, and just started going solo. Playing 3 and then going back to do has reminded me how great the world of 2 is. Both in lore and atmosphere, it is a kingdom that is forgotten.

https://www.xboxachievements.com/forum/showthread.php?t=622535

Is this a good strategy for a DS2 sorceror run?

>>183658587
Is it your first time playing?

nobody is going to read all that btw

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>Get invaded at pontiff
>summon yuria
>watch aldrich faithful and yuria of londor fight
>Yuria wins
can't make that shit up

>>183659883
>summon yuria at pontiff
wut

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Holy shit I forgot what it feels being a host against
invaders after all those invades
>1/4 more hp
>15 fucking estus
>invaders hitting each others (the funniest)
>tfw Seed of a Giant Tree
I need to make another character to host daily at pontiff, it's just too good

>>183660447
Probably some Yuria cosplayer.

Why does it feel like every time you fight somebody using a straight sword it's the exact same guy

>>183660501
Because they all have shit fashion and play exactly the same.

I finally went to the Shaded Woods.

Got invaded by the NPC Forlorn, and he killed me. Now he won't appear again.

Did I blow it?

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From a mathematical perspective which is better the estus ring or steal ring of protection +3? I have +9 estus flask btw.

>>183660618
They invade at complete random. There are set locations where they have a chance to invade, sometimes they can even show up in places that you backtrack to long after beating the boss there.

>>183660852
Neither, equip an actually useful ring. If you're running out of Estus while going through a level then you're doing something wrong, and if you're getting hit by enemies to the point of needing the extra absorption then you're also doing something wrong.

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>>183659883
the best is summoning Hodrick at SL 30ish in the crux woods

He one to two shots everybody, it's hilarious

>>183660990
I'm just having trouble with Gael and keep dying when he has 10-15% health left.

>>183660895
Oh geez. Thanks.

What the hell is this tree that moans when I hit it by the way
Is he into it

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This thing is broken.

>parryfishers
LMAO l2p

>>183661660
No, those are supposed to be carvings and decoration
little details to the design

>>183661335
Against Gael, the solution is gitting gud. You can also try Bloodring so that your dodges have less recovery.

>>183661617
Those alert the invisible assholes to come gank you.

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We can all agree that the Great Club is the best weapon for Strength builds, right? There are probably better strength weapons but I haven't made through a Dark Souls game with a Strength build without relying on this weapon before I get to the truly powerful Strength weapons, except for Dark Souls 2, where the Pursuer's Ultra Greatsword was also pretty nifty, too.

>>183659738
Yes. DS2, not DS1 though.

>>183662341
Yeah I relied on that until I could get Havel's entire set. Shit's mad strong.

Smough's set and hammer was cool for a while but the lack of a shield and the sheer weight making you fat roll means you're stuck with such shit defence. Havel's at least has the awesomeness of his shield.

>>183661786
This, nothing more pathetic than those memers
I just spam their faces with avelynn

>>183662341
I like Large Club more since the R2s felt like they were actually usable. This being said, I like my weapons made out of steel so I haven't used the clubs tons.

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what's up with the drop rate on this piece of shit?

>>183661660
It's terrible. Only useful on rapier and spear builds which you can parry easily.

>>183665624
You don't pvp much do you?

>>183665763
Yes, only have 10 dedicated PvP characters, 600 hours on record, and over 2000 hours in souls total, but I'm the one who knows nothing about PvP because I don't die to noob shitters using BKS.

It's the best medium shield but still total garbage because that's what medium shields are in Dark Souls 3 PvP.

>>183666026
Nah, see, I know you're bullshitting because, and correct me if I'm wrong, you seemed to imply the reason to use shields is shieldpoking

>>183662326
I ended up beating him. My problem was I'd get too reckless near the end and try to string together too many hits rather than playing it slow and dishing out a couple hits at a time.


Is there really no cutscene for the end of the ringed city or am I missing something?

Now all that's left is to go back in time, bring the little painter girl the blood of the dark soul, and usher in the age of dark for the sake of the greater good.

>>183666157
No. Reason to use small shields is to parry without the penalties of fist weapon parries.

Reason to use medium shields is fucking none. The only people who use medium shields are either SS fallen knight retards who don't realize they can't attack as long as I spam my r1 on their shield and shield pokers who haven't PvP'ed since pre-DLC and think that shit is still good.

Are you sure you aren't just HAGGORD who only uses UGS and Ledo's ? Because weapons like that are the only ones who can't shut down med shields.

>>183666026
>baitodesu.jpg

>>183666598
The reason to use medium shields is blocking. Which is generally not that good, except bksh has the stability of a greatshield with the weight and reqs of a medium shield

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What the fuck Sully?

>>183666829
Having lived in a painted world, suly used to read way too many manga

>>183666741
>The reason to use medium shields is blocking. Which is generally not that good, except bksh has the stability of a greatshield with the weight and reqs of a medium shield

Oh no, not the fucking blocking! Yes BKSH has high stability that can stand multiple attacks, but who the fuck cares? Them blocking doesn't deal any damage. As soon as they decide to attack back from their turtle they get hit by follow up R1. The only weapons who can get hit by turtle drop R1 between your R1's are HAGGORD weapons.

BKSH can stand like 4 R1 attacks from Yhorm's but if you are stupid enough to no have back up weapon for the direct counter of your shit then maybe you deserve to die to that stupid shit.

>>183635630
If you're quality, Black Knight Sword and Farron GS are mandatory

>>183667251
>As soon as they decide to attack back from their turtle they get hit by follow up R1
Why would they attempt to attack while you're still wailing on them? Or, if you're not wailing, what kind of weapon and connection do you have that will allow you to interrupt the attack before it comes out?

>>183666598
Strange how almost everyone in these tournaments has a Lothric Knight Shield or Black Knight Shield if there's no reason to use them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txO8p1XwlMQ
https://www.twitch tv/videos/137462032

>>183667251
I want to ask you, if BKSh is bad and pointless then why is the meta currently all dark LKS turtles? Shields are there not to tank a million hits but to tank maybe one and punish, cover approach for pressure and cover roll catch.

Demon Prince at 20 VIG is a fucking nightmare

Just killed Scorpionman's wife.

I summoned him but, learning from the Warf, I backtracked a bit and sure enough there was Best NPC summon right there!

She wasn't a match for the 3 of us and went down really easily. I was afraid for a bit because I wasn't wearing my good armor (forgot to put it back on after repairing it) but it was ez as hell. She tried to hit me with magic while scorpion and best husbando wailed on her.

>>183669053
Extremely low sl run?

>>183669114
Summons don't actually transported the body, only a mirage. You could even bring phantom solaire to body solaire in parish and anor londo

>>183669147
Nah lv 83. I'm a pyro and want muh demons scar

>>183669221
Oh no, I don't mean I went back to check if scorpion dude (Tark I think is his name) was still there.

I was checking for other summon signs. In the Warf, Lucatiel is right there near the entrance to the Ship, but if you backtrack a bit you find best husbando Bradley Of The Old Guard. So I did the same here and Bradley was there, again!

>>183668665
>Why would they attempt to attack while you're still wailing on them?
Exactly. What the fuck is the shield for if you can't attack back without getting caught. It's not like I'm gonna wail all my stamina and let them attack at the end of it. It does nothing in the end. SKSh is better than BKSh IMO, because at least you can go for parry on enemy wailing attempt, even if it is with shitty med shield parry frames.

>>183668715
>3 sept. 2016
kek
we've only had like 5 game changing patches since then


>>183668747
>I want to ask you, if BKSh is bad and pointless then why is the meta currently all dark LKS turtles?
In which fucking world? I have legit seen ONE PERSON with any kind of medium shield in my last like 300 PC undead match duels. And it isn't just "people trying more fun builds" because at least half of those matches had Gael's and SLGS, buffed SS etc. in them.

>Shields are there not to tank a million hits but to tank maybe one and punish, cover approach for pressure and cover roll catch.

Tank one and punish? Except that is impossible to do against every weapon that isn't super heavy strength weapon. Smaller weapons all get free hit on their consecutive R1's and at worst a GS sized weapon will guarantee trade on consecutive R1's.

>cover approach for pressure and cover roll catch.
Why in the holy fuck would I roll away when person approaches me holding his shield up? I can just spam R1's and disengage when I feel like it.

any tips for the second half of the soul of cinder fight? his flame sword hits me every time. i cant seem to get close to him.

>>183669545
>we've only had like 5 game changing patches since then
Which have only made shields stronger. The second one is also from after the ringed city and won by a straightsword turtle.

>Tank one and punish? Except that is impossible to do against every weapon that isn't super heavy strength weapon. Smaller weapons all get free hit on their consecutive R1's and at worst a GS sized weapon will guarantee trade on consecutive R1's.
You can block a running attack from any weapon with a shield and hit them with two R1's while they're in recovery

>>183669545
You know there's a tryhard meta and a casual tourney meta right? No one in a tryhard mindset would ever use GS or Halberd. Most of your average arenatards hate turtling and still think parrying is a good idea.

You seem to not have a very good reading comprehension here. Shields cover your approach letting you stay on an enemy or risk being strafe/unlocked backstabbed and eliminates the possibility of being counter R1'd by sudden aggression after your enemy's roll. And you use shields to prevent rollcatch when you roll and raise L1 tho do so. If you look up the latest DS3 meta videos from metafag YouTubers like Revan, it's all dark SS turtle shilling. Turtles at the moment have nothing in the top meta that can outtrade and out pressure them as the only two weapons formerly able to do it due to speed and high damage were Carthus and Sabre.

>>183669627
You play DaS1 and learn the boss there.

>>183669545
what the fuck is SLGS?

>>183670239
Split canuck

>>183669656
Introduction of poise buff and new stronger weapons made them worse.

>You can block a running attack from any weapon with a shield and hit them with two R1's while they're in recovery
Why would you running attack a shield? You don't even have to have PvP'ed to know how bad idea that is from just PvE.

>>183669961
I'll check that shit out. Maybe every BKS user I have ever faced has just been a complete shitter and given me the win. I have always been able to shut them down with simple R1 spam.

>>183670239
le balanced helicopter

>>183653072
3 is just "scrapped content and half finished ideas - the final cashgrab" regardless of if any real money went into making it look and feel cool

his cool ideas happened back in des, ds1 and bb

>>183669627
what the fuck. now i cant even get past his first half.

hey ho, guess what? demons souls is playable as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3_WiNow_gE

>>183669627
once he raises the sword ready to unleash the juggle combo, just book it. as far as you can go, don't even attempt to dodge and counter, it's not worth it
>>183670456
run away from the cs phase, stick very close in the sorcerer phase
>>183670456
What do I need to do to play the better version? Update rpcs3?

>>183670580
https://github.com/RPCS3/rpcs3/pull/3075
you just need one hell of a CPU for it. been thinking about overclocking my ryzen, should do the trick

>>183670435
the spear phase legitimately pisses me off. He never gets off your ass

>>183670376
This is a shit video but it gets my point across. Most arena shitters use dark sword with a shield and r1 spam with it which is bad any way you think of it. The shield is also there to make up for your spacing mistakes too.

https://youtu.be/MueID8RcnfE

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>>183670731
I got an AMD FX4320. Not amazing but it could run the previous version. And up until relatively recently, I was on a tincan that could barely run ds1/2 well. So I don't really mind sub 20fps all that much, I'm more bummed at the sound being trash

>>183670756
i just strafe him. its the fucking curved sword and greatsword phase that pisses me off.

>>183670731
I think I might be retarded, what am I to do with that?

>>183670938
sound problems are mostly fixed

Picked up the game a few days ago and have been playing co-op with a friend of mine - only really doing PVE right now until I clear the game but my current build has gotten kind of stale now I've hit Anor Londo.

Can anyone give me a good PVE build to use? I'm SL 90 right now but I'd prefer a build attuned to SL100+, starting class is a knight.

>>183672041
40 dex sellswords, they're the best pve wep. Always buff them, they hurt when you do. Later on bump that 40 dex to 80

>>183672041
>the game
/dsg/ is about 4 games (technically kf too, but noone ever talks about it), 2 of them have anor londo. Btw, any weapon that isn't obviously terrible you can finish the game with, this isn't like the rpgs where you need to keep getting better and more ridiculous equip. And both games with Anor Londo are meant to be finished at around sl80-90

How the fuck are people ending at SL120 in these games? Or is DS2 an exception?

I have 4 lot primal bonfires and 3 of the great souls, and I am at SL140 with a fully upgraded Magic Mace, MLGS, shield and Staff of Wisdom, a +9 Flame, and I have never exhausted any spawns in this game so far, and used 2 ascetic in total.

How the fuck do you end the game at 120? Do you just sit on millions of souls for no reason, or what the hell are you spending it on? Because it sure as hell isnt gear or upgrades, they are far too cheap to impact your soul level at that point in the game.

Or are people just shitters that die and lose their souls all the time? I am struggling to see how you could possibly end the game at 120 without just purposely gimping yourself (Like the ring that just stops soul collection entirely)

What is the best pure strength weapon in ds3? I'm using Yhorms machete, is there anything better?

>>183648229

Block him and don't use Aldrich Faithful. Blocking actually works in this game, it gives you the message "Unable to join, guest cannot join session" or something similar. But Aldrich Faithful is wonky and will still put you in their world sometimes.

>>183672164
Do I just ignore most other stats until then? Right now I have 40 dex 40 str and I've been using a dark sword but it feels clunky and I am starting to get my ass kicked for the first time in this run.
And should I do any particular enchant on them? I was thinking the sharp enchant would be pretty good but dex is usually for bleed builds afaik?

Thanks for your help btw!

>>183672408
Heavy splitleaf with resin, gundyrs

Try it offhand with a mainhand ss, it's really fun

>>183672374

You used ascetic, which simulates NG+ for that area. So, of course you ended up with tons and tons of souls. Most souls games end around the level 80ish area if you don't farm or die a lot.

>>183672464
You want to go min str req and 40dex sharp until you get to higher sl then bump dex up to 60-80, 50 dex gets no returns. Don't use bleed really, it's bad now, even in pve. Use the other resins depending on the enemy. L1 spam with resin melts bosses.

>>183672629
Thanks a bunch!

>>183672374

Relax, DS2 is the exception, if I remember right on average people would hit 200+ on average

>>183672408

Exile Greatsword, Splitleaf Greatsword, Cathedral Knight Greatsword, Millwood Battleaxe, Warpick

any tips on how to beat ornstein and smough? and also can any of them be parried?

>>183672374
People end closer to SL150, in my experience, and even that requires profligate use of Agape Ring.

>>183672761
get one stuck in the pillar and hit the other.
you're free to try

Should I get DaS 3 GOTY edition for a 50 yros?

>>183672761
The only boss in DS1 that can be parried is Gwyn.

>>183672761

If you're not against summoning, using Solaire makes the first section easy as fuck. Let him aggro Smough and then fuck up Ornstein.

Otherwise, just keep running and waiting for Ornstein to *teleports behind you* and get a few hits in before Smoughs fat ass charges you.

>>183672408
The best pure str weapon is the great club. But with just a bit of dex investment (which is up to 4 points if you started knight as you should) you get a lot of great options like exile, splitleaf, spiked mace

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Going from the Ringed Inner Wall bonfire to the swap is fucking retarded, anytime you die (which is highly likely due to the amount of enemies you encounter and how much damage they can deal), you will have to go through another 2 ringed knights, 6 fat fucks, bug fuckers that grab you, another 3 ringed knights (at once).
I've been stuck here for ages, where is the next fucking bonfire?

>>183672852
yes. its a great game

>>183673232
*swamp
This was angrily typed if you couldn't already tell

>>183673232
by the swamp

>>183673232
alluring skulls and explore the area

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Thinking about making a new character again. Does anyone have a Valorheart they're not using and are willing to give away?
It's hard to find interesting weapons to use but it was underwhelming when I got it lategame with another build.

>>183673453
why not respec?

>>183673232
Once you reach the swamp, hang a right and you should eventually find the next bonfire.

>>183673501
because It's on a very old character that is basically retired. Rather have the weapon from the start than do 1/3rd of the game and then go through the clusterfuck of a dlc

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>>183672041

>>183672374
In Dark Souls 2 they give you much more levels because they spread the stats around in DS2 more than the others (splitting END into END / VIT, the introduction of ADP, Hexes and Pyro requiring INT and FTH) and DS2 being more of a numbers-focused game in general than the previous or following entries.

The stat softcaps also kind of start to really impact you only at 50 as opposed to the 40 or something you start getting vastly diminishing returns in in DS1 / 3.

>or what the hell are you spending it on?
Ammunition for Hexes.
Buy all the armor sets and weapons.

>>183673557
Valorheart is a terrible pve weapon anyway.

>>183673453
Are you on PS4?

>>183673676
>make a bitchbasic twink
>slap chester's tophat on it
>le trolle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xSP_K4SMaU

>>183673915
but at least it breaks the mold a little. most weapons feel uninspired as fuck unless you use twinblades which just feels like a patchjob.

>>183673976
PC. Haven't even made the character yet because i don't know if i actually want valorheart

>>183670731
Can someone help me here? What am I supposed to do here? I found an rpcs3-master zip but I have no idea what to do with it

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>>183674780
I'll spoonfeed you you dumb shit
>go to the website
>click download
>download ps3 firmware
>dump or download game
>"install" and install FW
>boot game

>>183674069
>PC
I can't help you then.

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>>183674881
I've already done that and ran des. What I'm asking is how to update. The rpcs3 website mentions dragging the exe in the root directory, but there is no exe in the zip I got.

>>183675019
the actual website, not the fucking github link you degenerate

>>183675132
That's what I'm doing right now. But what even the point of the github link then? You prick

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>>183675258
how the fuck should i know? i'm not the retard who linked it

>>183675345
THEN WHY EVEN REPLY IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, YOU DOOFUS

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>>183675450
really nigger?

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Are clutch rings ever worth it?

>>183675818
no. tradeoff is way too big for the small improvement. just like how they butchered flynns ring into the ground even though it wasn't op to begin with

>>183675818
in pve

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>>183675719
So? I told you, I've done that shit. What I asked is what to do with the link. Which you don't know. Now shut the fuck up

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What's the highest AR i can get with a straight sword?

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Is using Velstadt's helmet on Fume Knight cheating?

>>183676184
are you fucking retarded?

>>183675969
the github link is a direct link to the build, just not compiled for those who want to do that themselves for whatever reason.
there's just no fucking reason to use it when the build is compiled often enough

>>183676284
Cool, thanks.
>>183676184
As much as it's cheating destroying the ashen idols, lighting the sconces for lost sinner or carrying repair powder for sinh

>>183676279
The hardest part of Fume knight is that he's two fights in one, by using Velstadt's helmet you only have to learn the second half of the fight which takes him from being a very hard boss, to just a hard boss in my opinion.

Think about it, it's so difficult to learn the second phase of the fight because you have to slog through the first part each time you die.

>>183673232
gret goud

>>183670456
Just tested it wit 4790k and it's extremely playable but any attempt to look at a huge number of loaded objects results in a ~5 FPS loss which reminds me of how DS1 ran back in days on my old-ass laptop.
But if you can get over it, it's perfectly possible to complete the game most likely.

>>183676279
>>183676458
to add to that, some people carry two different sets of weapon for phase one and phase two (shield+mace P1, Curved dragon greatsword P2), which significantly increases your carry load.

I simply don't think the easier 40% is worth how much it slows down the learning process.

>>183676665
The transition to phase 2 last long enough that you could just quickswap to what you need if you've stored the rest.
>>183676458
So? Exploiting game design is part of the deal. It's not like you're glitching anything, the reaction is intended by the devs

>>183677090
yeah you're right, it's not cheating in the literal sense, I guess I was asking if it made the fight "unfairly" easy.

It was a stupid question

>>183677620
The good thing about ds2 is if you feel you countered the fight "too much" to the point where there's little challenge, you can start it over to an extent.

Hm, I wonder does anyone actually play (mostly) melee int and/or faith builds in DS3 like arcane in BB? Not just going for 60+ int and spell damage stacking, but finding a nice A or S scaling weapon with infusion and just hitting things with magic damage, rather than physical?

holy shit why ain't ds3 using des greatsword moveset or at least their running attack and r2 speed

>>183678359
the current meta is infusing anything you can with dark

>>183675853
>free 50 AR increase in a game with shit scaling
>with full bonus applicable even to elemental weapons
>wasn't op
The shit you can hear in this general is staggering sometimes.

>>183678502
Wasn't dark shit in this game?

>>183678525
>need 60 or less MAXIMUM equipload
>degrades very quickly
>op
yea alright bro. it's very easy to get above 60 max load with just a ring or leveling even a little in vitality

>>183678541
+/-, it's uncommon to find high dark defense on shields or armour, and the only way to resist it is to lvl faith.

>>183678665
>equip load
>mattering unless you rock with ultras
>underestimating the retarded damage flynns gives to any small weapons
there's a reason every single fucking SL150 build is rocking with flynns
there's a reason every single speedrunner is rocking with it
there's a reason robflynn estoc turtle is some of the most obnoxious shit you can encounter
it was an absolutely retarded ring and i'm glad to see it being nerfed into oblivion

>>183678541
It was never shit, it was always a great infusion.
Now it's borderline broken while 1-stat elemental infusions still give you a solid damage output. I think 40 FAI lothric knight sword deals around the same amount of damage as 40 DEX sharp despite the fact you gain access to regen miracles.

>>183678541
Hexes are shit, dark is great. Of course, in terms of raw damage it's better to go sharp or heavy (except against shields) but it opens you up to useful utility spells

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>>183678359
Make yourself a 40 fai blessed build with lothric knight ugs and backup lothric knight straight sword.
Probably the funniest shit i've tried in a while, during invasions i rarely even use estus because passive regeneration is more than enough for everything.

I really want to play bloodborne and a few other games. I wonder wether it's worth being bothered with getting a second hand ps4 and then reselling it.

I'm in the mood for a faithbuild, either dragonslayer cosplay or deus vult crusader memes, what's the most viable?

>>183679170
A proper armoured battle cleric with a lighting mace or sunlight straight sword and offensive miracles is fairly good now.
You will spend an entire NG buidling him though, lighting arrow is one of the last spells you will get and you will really need sage+2 to bring the most out of it.

>>183679340
Damn, well I guess at least ng+1 Will be fast

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Explain this, soulbabs

>>183672537
2. And I did it to farm a boss twice, I barely killed anything in the area aside from the bare minimum.

That didn't earn me enough would to somehow propel me +30 soul levels ahead of where I should be.

>>183673910
Alright fair enough. Some of the stats do feel very specific in purpose (ADP in particular), so I can see why the level in general would need to be higher.

That aside, once I have finished up this, should I go for DS1 or DS3? Which game was generally considered "better"?

I dont care much for PvP, after being summoned 30 times in Grave of Saints and Doors of Pharros, I am really not in the mood for any more PvP.

>Ammunition for Hexes.
Why though. Even if you are a spell slinger, the damage is a pointless increase for a reduced gain.

You have no real reason to use it unless you are somehow struggling to beat the bosses, in which case you could just summon a phantom to help you.

I am still not sure why that is an option. If it actually had a cost, sure, but it is just free, and it makes the game even easier than it already is.

What was the DS2 signature armor set? Faraam or Alva?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13519289

>>183679648
Killed Gwyndolin?

>>183679734

Hell kind of question son? Faraam

Hell, in DaSIII, it's even hinted that the Faraam armour was canonically worn by the Bearer of the Curse. Whereas the Alva set, while iconic, is now based around a recurring character rather than being representative of the game

>>183680332
Yes

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>points down for no reason
>point down back
>"stop lagging" group invite

>>183680358
But the gesture menu icons feature a knight in the Alva set. Way before you find the Faraam armor under the castle.

>>183679689
>I am still not sure why that is an option. If it actually had a cost, sure, but it is just free, and it makes the game even easier than it already is.
Getting into the dark souls series, I was expecting Dwarf Fortress levels of excruciating difficulty.

I was super disappointed to learn that you need to purposely make bad stat and gear decisions to not accidentally become an unstoppable monster, and the option of summoning in completely overpowered NPC phantoms who can face tank bosses for days, just takes away what little difficulty the game supposedly had.

Of course, the gameplay is terrific, and I will never not love to replay the series, just because of how fun and satisfying combat is. The sheer amount of weapon options is also great for replay value, and building a character is a lot of fun.

But difficult? Nah. The whole "Git Gud" meme is just a terrible meme, that doesn't actually fit with the reality of the games very casual approach to difficulty.

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She's asking for it.

No, I can't make it loop properly

Is the Spear of the Church boss bugged or something? Im stuck in the room even though i beat him

>>183680664
>best vydia girls of 2016 and 2017 have blindfolds