/twg/ - Total War General

>you will never put it in a cute elf girl as she begs you to stop

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>>183511675

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FIRST FOR CA GIVES US OUR FIRST LOOK AT CATHAY
FIRST FOR CA CATHAY SO SUCCESFUL WARHAMMER EXPANDS TO CHYNA

But seriously though why not?

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OUR MEN ARE RUNNING FROM THE BATTLEFIELD

A SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!!!!

>>183511867
because no one cares about china chinkaboo

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GRACE!

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KHAZUKAN

KHAZUKIT

HA!

So since they're obviously reworking WoC or giving them new units with the Norsca update, what units/mechanics do you think they'll get?

I been wanting to play WOC since day 1 but they've been lower than shit-tier for campaign and I just really want to end the world

>>183511904
Fuck off weeb Chyna #1

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Harmony.

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>>183511867

>chyna
>relevant

>>183512119
>if you dont like china you must be a weeb
chinkaboo delusion at its finest

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CHINA!

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Vlad or Isabella for your starting LL?

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Reposting because it was at the very end of the thread.

My God, this was so fucking close.
That samurai unit saved my ass. Also all those archers bravely stood their ground against walls of yaris and dismounted knights.

>in the mood to not run warhammer on medium at 30 fps
>price of buttcoins has obliterated the GPU market
>shillvidia and amd laughing all the way to the bank because you have to drop $300 for a mid-range card that will last you two years

nice I like it

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>>183508858
Does this Chariot make you nervous?

>>183512651
Shogun 2 archers were the shit back in the day. Warhammer "skirmishers" cannot even come close to their prowess

>>183512651
What the fuck are you doing mario, don't you have pint screen/F12 buttons in Italy?

>>183512757
>not buying a GPU way before the bitcoin-rape began
>not sitting relatively tight for a few good years

>>183512805
Disappointing that Shogun 2 was the last TW game where ranged units were actually powerful. I had fun with a Cimmeria campaign in Rome 2, but nothing else has come close.

>>183512884

should have got that titan instead of a car
now I'd be cycling to work but hey at least I could get msaa x4 and zoom in on orcs

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Let Tzeentch decide your destiny in the Old World!

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Don't Krell and Kemmler make for the cutest couple?

Gay metalhead couples are so rare and adorable.

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>>183512757
Same here

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NOWHERE TO RUN

>>183513058

Greenskin pls.

>>183512651
You can just press F12 bro

>>183513195
>get Treehitler instead

At least he's green.

>>183513058
So what happens if I roll a dlc and i'm not a good goy?

>>183513058
Vampires or uninstall.

>>183512805
>>183512959
>archers can kill
sick meme fren

>>183513472
Reroll you git

>>183513058
harder daddy

>>183513472

You buy the DLC and you become good goy. Especially when the Handsome Prince demands your service.

>>183513472

you remember Total.War.Warhammer-STEAMPUNKS exists

>>183513605

Now you will find out why he wheres the mask.

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>Under 2% losses
>Close

Are beastmen the second worst race pack after Chaos Warriors? I hate the ambush mechanic and the fact that you play the same map everytime, minotaurs are also annoying since the respawning beastmen hordes tend to receive a large amount right next to your minor settlements.

>>183513091
Now I want to become a necromancer, so I could summon a friend. Or a dead girl I used to love.

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G O B L I N S

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>>183510907
Norsca is 10 dollars so you'd still be saving 14 dollars if you bought TWW2 from there along with Norsca separately

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>>183513863
>Summoning dead girls when you can have a dead boyfriend who will defend you until he is utterly destroyed and no longer capable of being reanimated

What are you some kind of faggot anon?

>>183514075
But she was a nice person. And I do not familiar with any dead cute boys

>>183512618
What faction bonuses do each of them get that the other doesn't have?

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>be at war with the VCs as the Dwarves

>During a battle against the undead a dwarf infantryman shouts "KILL THE CHAOS INVADERS!!!! that can be heard from across the map"

>>183512805
Actually I fell like the archers in Shogun 2 are kinda meh for killing, but in melee are quite a decent option if all other units are busy. In Warhammer archers are literally garbage in melee.

>>183513863
Want help bro? Necromancy sounds pretty fucking cool. I bet there's a way to do it without getting fucked up or burned at the stake.

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>when you're winning a basic battle and choke hard

>>183514572
>when you accidentally forget to micro your flying units and halberds rip them apart

>>183514527
Well, I just need few dark elf witches, a lot of drugs to keep they in obedience and my own torture room.

>>183511675
>Dragon Prince
>White Lions
>Spearmen

These two most assuredly died horrible deaths

>>183514413
>meh for killing

They must have nerfed them. I remember playing shogun and the ranged firepower could absolutely decimate anything, especially the handheld cannon units or some other high tier ranged units. Massed archers worked great too, because those samurais didn't quite get the concept of shields for some reason, preferring to deflect arrow fire with the the curves of their armor (but still getting hit in the eye if there are a million arrows flying in).

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>>183514687
>when you micro your halberds into ripping apart the enemies flying units

>>183514386

He's drunk, cut the man some slack.

>>183513817
>he hates all the good parts about beastmen

>>183514386
Dwarfs are a little slow

>>183513817
there's a mod to quit the forest ambush map and replaced with the normal ambush map

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>>183514747
Kinky desu. I am more of a Slanneshi persuasion myself, but prefer more of a Sigvaldy approach to it, without the cannibalism, having sex with people and then eating them, etc, but with all the capricious adventures and seduction of elven maidens and lads.
Freaky dark elf sex dungeons make me sick though.

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>>183511675
(Repostan from last thread, didn't realize it was so close to closing)

Ok senpai, here's where things stand in my first full Empire campaign:

Having achieved all my necessary objectives for the security of a Prussian nation, I have adopted a position as the World's Policeman. Rather than blindly declaring war whenever it suits me, I have concentrated on wiping out piracy and rogue states, bringing prosperity to those once held in bondage. I only fight wars defensively, offering mercy once an enemy's military is crushed and their ability to spread wanton violence curbed.

I am currently at peace with all nations, but tensions are running high along the border with Poland, and my once stalwart alliance with Britain is now in question. In America, I enjoy mostly friendly relations with my neighbors, having liberated the South American colonies when I destroyed the corrupt and fading Spanish empire.

However, what most deeply concerns me is the situation in India. . I have watched with growing concern as my one-time allies, the now highly militant Mughal Empire, have ruthlessly crushed the Hindu Maratha confederacy, reducing this once proud nation to but a single province. I have enjoyed peaceable relations and profitable trade with both countries, but now I fear that Mughals will destroy what remains of an ancient religion and bring the whole of the continent under their heel. The Mughals have had the good sense not to attack me, but I face an impossible choice: watch a nation fall while sitting on the side lines and doing nothing, or violating my principles and intervening directly in the affairs of foreigners who have done my empire no harm.

What say you, anons? Shall I maintain peace, no matter how painful it be? Or shall I throw caution to the winds, and embroil myself in violent conflict with those I once called brothers?

So far we got one vote for war. Anyone else wanna weigh in before I take the plunge?

>>183515367
das a grudgin

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>>183513091
you've just awakened a new fetish within me thnks anon.

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>Chester Bennington dies
>Krell appears in game
>coincidence?

>>183512757
at this rate it's more effecient to just buy a built pc than buying inflated pc parts

>>183515505
Kill the british

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Fucking

HANG

ALL

GREENSKINS

>>183515495
It's not about sex. It's what Nagash did to learn how to become necromancer.

>>183515797
DAWI
A
W
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>>183515797

Dawi on suicide watch.

>>183515505

>the only major blobbing that has occurred is the maratha vs. mughals, as it always does

I think they just made the map and added the factions in and said fuck it we're not coding any ai for the campaign part of our game

Remember to finish your very hard Durthu campaigns before Norsca DLC hits the ground

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Pre-Order Total War: Warhammer III now and get the Border Princes free!

Calling it now: Offer begins February 7th 2019

>>183513969
that is a good point

>>183516124

I'd pre-order.

I want to marry a Death Hag!

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>Chariot Spam amatuers BTFO
>Dawi autists BTFO
>Mannlet BTFO (in melee, by a girl)

>>183516124
it will be Kislev.

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>>183514572
>When you're not good enough to manage a full stack in battle efficiently, nevermind several, and the enemy keeps bringing them and winning because you only win small battles.

im a big noob n i just got total warhammer with all DLC

who do i play as first campaign?

>>183516184

Will you munge?

>>183516383
Vampires

>>183515843
By following Nagash's ways you inevitably become his thrall. Fuck that shit man. Just find a chaos artifact that lets you open a portal to a different time, and rescue the girl before she dies, etc. Kill any demons that try to devour her from here to there as you pass through the chaos portal.

>>183516383

Franks

>>183516383

What do you like? How do you like to fight?

If you know, tell us and we'll recommend a faction.

If you don't play Empire.

>>183516383
Whatever you want. Dwarves are easiest faction to play, but they are boring as fuck

>>183516383
Empire to experiment with well rounded factions

Dorfs or Spooky Vampires for easy mode

>>183516539
i've never played a total war, but I'm assuming something that i can just run around n smash shit
so greenskins?

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>>183515797
>hanging an orc
They have such thick necks, you'd just end up with an angry orc on a string.

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Post screenshots.

>>183512008
In the best of the best event, they may get their missing units added and get ranged Marauders too

Worst case? they get jackshit like they have done since release (besides 3 reskin-tier units)

So Norsca will get like 2000 new kinds of Marauders. Will they have heavy edgy armor like Chaos Warriors? I like those.

>>183516595

Greenskins are great for just fucking shit up. That being said, they do have a bit of a moral problem, so keep an eye on the little white bar under their health in screenshots. If it hits bottom they'll run!

That being said, roll with Grimgore Ironhide as your legendary lord and you'll carve through silly dwarves in no time.

>>183516705
alright i guess I'll greenskin it up, thanks for the help

Does anything unlock after beating the game as Alberic? I can't tell if I should start a new game or continue this game, it's my first playthrough. A diplomacy request fucked the end screen after I beat Archeon in the quest.

>>183516620
...that sounds like something they would seriously use as a weapon.

Who's the most underrated LL?
For me, it's Azhag

>>183516691
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/norsca-army-roster/
here

>>183513058
For my secondary campaign that I run when taking a break from GLORIOUS SIGMARITE HOLY WAR

>>183516458
>you inevitably become his thrall.
Everyone will. He's a god now.
>rescue the girl before she dies
B-but I can't rescue people from cancer.

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>>183516637

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>>183516218
>over seven thousand chariots

>>183516915
then take her before she got cancer duh

>>183512008
Just give them Warshrines and we can survive until Game 3

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>It's a Beastmen army comes from Bretonnia and raze your settlement on the border, while you lose 10 trade agreements in the process episode

I fucking swear i'm going to conquer those bretonnian shits becose they absolutly usless

>>183517047
They need the same marks mechanic like one what Norsca is going to get.

>>183516915
Hire an apothecary to look at her before she develops cancer. Maybe all she needed was a change in diet or air quality, for all anybody could know.

>>183513058
STAFF OF ROLLANS

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>>183516637

>>183517229
>Maybe all she needed was a change in diet or air quality
No, man. It's all about the city I live in.

>>183514413
What did you use, Bow Ashigaru? No, even they could rape at long range. Bow Samurai and Bow Monks rape everything with their arrows if you use them at all, let alone trying to maximise how good they are. Obviously they aren't as good as Matchlock units or the Heavy Gunners but archers in Shogun 2 were just angels of death.

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>>183516637
I think battle pilgrims have very little sense of preservation underneath that bad haircut.

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>Kemmler finally gets an update that makes him slightly more than a basic bitch

>Gelt still is stuck with his crappy lore of metal spells and his lackluster, mundane skills and limp dick legendary items.

>>183516637
This is an example of a good pic. An example of a bad one would would bear a description like 'lmfao guys, look how I beat Manny with my Franz!' aka campaignposting.

>>183517590
>VC get content
>other races get shafted
No... really?

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>>183517161
And the faggot Bordeaux stack trailing behind insta-caps the razed city on their turn so you lose the edicts.

I'm getting a total war game but Idk which one I want. Suggestions and why pls? my favorite used to be medeval The crusades were badass.

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>>183517547
Don't mock the tonsure. It is the pinnacle of chic of medieval hairstylings for priests and battle monks of discerning style.

>>183513058
roilin

>>183517590
It's almost like CA hates the Empire or something.

>>183517760
Lol... has anyone explained why the VCs get constant love and attention and not any of the other factions?

>>183517913
medieval 2 or attila with age of charlemagne

>>183517913
You can sort of get more of that with attila+charlemagne. The other games can be solid too provided you like the setting and mod them a bit.

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>>183516637

>>183517590
His "10 more armor for every unit" campaign trait is pretty good 2bh

>>183513058
Rollo.

>>183517913
Buy Attila just so you get the official license to make anti-Warhammer shitposts on /twg/ every single day! Be sure to take lots of screenshots in an attempt to prove how darktilla is graphically superior.

>>183518054
They started off with less and get nerfed hard because of multiplayer 'balance'.

>>183515495
Sigvald sacrificed his sex drive for the sake of vanity and narcissism it's why he's called the geld prince and why despite Slannesh being the prince of pleasure and she who thirsts he also is the patron chaos god of the arts.

>>183516691
Marauder Champions will have heavy armor and will probably look simmilar to Chaos Warriors.

Also, for all intents and purposes the only actual "Marauder" units are Marauders, Marauders(Great Weapons), Marauder Spearmen, Marauder Horsemen and Marauder Horsemen(Throwing Axes).
All the other units with "Marauder" in their name only have it because of dumb IP reasons according to Andy Hall. Basically just chop the "Marauder" off of everything and just add Norscan in your mind, so you get things like Norscan Berserkers, Norscan Hunters, Norscan Champions etc. which just sound better.

>>183513058
rollof

>>183513091
>Gay couples
>broship will now always be condenmed as gay by faggots

I fucking hate this life.

>>183518146
>provided you mod them a bit.

how are Dwarfen Reiksguard (hagbane tips) working out for you?

>>183518054
Because most devs favored VC for some reason. They are nice to have around for sure but the Von Carsteins are meh to me. Still waiting on Kemmler separate start so I can leave the autist family to their devices.

>>183512757
buy from a manufacturer like evga

>>183518146
>>183518195
>>183518110
thats three votes atilla. sounds liek its really good.

>>183518195
but attila is graphically superior

>>183518370
A possible reason is that the VC roster has 4-5 less units than most of the other races. Tho it's possible that CA is resisting the implementation of a proper Vampire Coast because they're huge VC fanboys and want to see that same old roster everywhere.

>>183518437
it may be overwhelming if you are new to the recent games, and the setting can be quite boring

It still has BY FAR the best campaign, but Shogun 2 and Warhammer have more fun battles imo

>>183518370
>Kemmler separate start.

Kemmler in the lore has an entire escapade in Athel Loren and Bretonnia. Starting him off in Brettonia or Estalia or Tilea would add so much to the campaign.

I also wish they would add new quest battles for existing lords. Especially as they add factions, the possibilities for new quest battles versus different foes for lords increases as the game ages.

There are no Empire lords fighting beastmen, just as there won't be any Bret lords who will fight the new Norsca in quest battles.

>>183518334
>being so obssessed

Never used radious, don't even play warhammer, and not every mod is radious. Grow up.

>>183518872
don't try to reply to them, this general has a anti-overhaul fetish for some reason

>>183518553
Beastmen have way less in their army book and still aren't as complete as VC. CA just really liked the fuckers and gave them an obscene amount of content and could easily have more content. Meanwhile half the factions got the shit end of the stick.

>>183519035
I thought Beastmen were just missing Ghorgons, Jabbies, and Doombulls? That's not so bad, though having Ghorgons would be nice, standard Beastie Giants don't run so fast.
Greenskins are the still the most incomplete faction, right?

>install Chaos mod someone has talk about
>get cultists to see how awesome new models look
>they look just like flaggelants, but with no heads
>uninstall

>>183519245
Where do you think their heads went?

>>183513058
Rollanh

>>183519175
They're also missing generic bestigor hero and shaman general, but that's it if I'm not mistaken.

>>183519175
Yeah but considering half of Beastmeme's units are the same as Chaos you would expect something more.

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>>183518692
Makes sense to me, have him fuck up Bretonnia and Southern Realms. Give him Chaos relations instead of VC relations and serve the gods who gave him his mind and power back.

Its funny because his intro spiel talks about how exactly that and how he has no interest in vampires.

>>183519035
>>183519175
What are the odds we will see additions to current rosters in factions that appear in other standalone expansions?
Examples being, Vampire Coast, the Naggaroth Greenskins, maybe even that one Wagh that reached Ulthuan, the various Norscans all over, the Badlands Greenskins, the Badlands Strigoi.
I'm sure there are more that I'm missing, but you get the point.

Also, are we really never getting Albion? They can just port some R2 Celts over.

>>183519349
Head fairy took it.

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>>183517291
>want to use batshit crazy old Necromancer generals
>they suck ass compared to vampires and have negligible advantages

Necromancer heroes are at least somewhat useful in battle but they don't get all the spooky bone accessories.

>>183518320

underrated post, everytime a see two bro in the media, in the end they are made gay.

(See Takuma and Kevin in Tiger Mask)

>>183519462
>are we really never getting Albion?
Why would anyone care about it? It's not like there is anything interesting.

>>183519462
I think the odds are very good that we will see some current rosters reappear.

With the new races added in the sequel, there are a lot of opportunities to re-use and provide new enemies for the new and old factions.

Grom the Paunch, for instance, was a goblin who ate enchanted troll meat from a chaos troll and grew to the size of an Orc Warboss. He had an infamous moment when he somehow landed in Ulthuan and rampaged throug elf lands, becoming the first (and I believe last) greenskin Waaagh ever to do so.

>>183519873
Albion is where the heart is.

>>183516124

Kislev

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>>183516637

>>183519967
No heart, just fog and shit. There is no armies to command.

>>183520129
Oh, didn't realise we were talking about real life Albion!

>>183520273
It's all the same in the fantasy aswell. Just with no Sherlock Holmes.

>>183520509
4now

>>183513058
Are you a god?

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>>183518620
my last total war is medieval. am I going to be overwhelmed? medieval 2 battles were super fun. warhammer is even more fun than that? I'm avoiding shogun because it has guns, I think. something about guns turns me off.

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>>183517915
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Why can't I fucking colonize Norsca? The two games I wanted to do was go crusading through a foreign land as Bretonnia and to go all Lich King with Kemmler.

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I think I'm winning?

>>183513058
roll

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>>183520946
remove beer

>>183520965
Felt the same way about guns, then i first saw the glorious musket volley in darthmod empire, almost shat myself

>>183513058
No dwarves please.

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>>183521204
Ale for the ale god!

>>183521315
Get fucked, nerd.

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>>183521315

>>183521315
I said no dwarves.

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>>183520965
You can have no guns if you play rots and can outright ignore them in the sengoku campaign, especially if you play on the right side of the map.

>>183521315
You wouldn't want to get into the book, do you lad?

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Holy fuck.

PLEASE no crash

>>183521103
Because pansy ass "southlings" can't stand the cold of Norscan lands, where they don't know how to survive and all their women and children would freeze.

Dark Elves and some other factions should definitely be able to colonize them though.

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That was absolutely nerve-wracking

And the settlement I was going to relieve rebelled anyway.

>>183521967
Nigger most of my shit isn't even alive

>>183522160
Lol! Close call

What is the best way to spread vampire corruption? Lets say I want to see all of Norsca and the Badlands with 100% corruption, how should I go about it?

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>>183522205
What, skeletons don't deserve warmth and comfort too? What kind of necromancer are you that you don't even make sure your shuffling troops are comfortable before the big day.

>>183522205
But your cities is populated with living humans.

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Dis gon be a fight

>>183522849
Says you

>>183522583
Balefires, in every province

What lores of magic delf sorceress can know?
Only shadow or death?

>>183521315

>Asks for no dwarves.
>Gets Dwarfs.

Technically exactly what you asked for.

>>183523129
Lore of Incest

>>183523050
Won't that only do adjacent provinces, though? How would I do far off corners of Norsca/Badlands?

>>183523129
Shadow, death and sex.

>>183523129

Can't forget Dark magic.

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>>183513813
THIS STINK !

>>183513058
Yes

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>>183516637
G O B L I N S (on squigs)

>>183522205
Yeah but put two and two together dumdum. Zombies give off no body heat, neither to skellies. In cold weather they freeze like icicles.

Zombies still contain putrid bodily fluids, so they would freeze like popsicles.

>>183523217
Send heroes.

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What a clusterfuck.

>>183523284
Where can I read about its spells?
>>183523217
Sorry anon, but despite your expectations, sex is not a miracle.

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>>183523440

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So will chaos always win? In the lore I mean. Seems kinda inevitable both for 40K and Fantasy.
I mean in fantasy the other races barely hanging on and that's after the High elfs weakened Chaos with the vortex

>>183523557
Neah, I'm not falling for your lies. I'm going to be a wizard(lore of sex) in 5 years.

>>183523507

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>>183523442
That's not how my Japanese Anime works

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How can I make Chaos an actual challenge? I want them to be able to steamroll Kislev and then half my empire (as Empire) before I have a chance to beat them back.

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>>183523440

>>183523730
>in fantasy
They already won. Thanks to manlet.

>>183523507
What mod

>>183523730
in 40k the 'nids win

>>183523849
What are you doing as Empire that makes anything easy whatsoever?

Only easy game I've ever had against Chaos has been as VC, replacing Kislev before Archaon shows up and making him my bitch.

This is only half related, but is Mordheim worth picking up on a sale? I like tactics games and Warhammer, but the reviews aren't great so I don't know...

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>>183523507
>Turn 178
>only having sylvania
Comfy vamps sitting out the apocalypse in their crypts.

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>>183523993

Start by only caring about Public Order, turtle a bit, confederate a bit, only focus on Economy a bit, and then expand around turn 60 via conquest. Makes for much more manageable Empire campaigns every time.

>>183523849
Start a big war before they come. In my VC campaign I was fighting dwarves when chaos came. That was a challenge.

>>183523557
These are the tabletop equivalents.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_Magic
>inb4 using 1d4chan

>>183524101
Yeah, it's kinda fun. Repetitive, but fun.

>>183523882
Mannfred made the right decision

comfy oblivion > Nagash necro-wave future

>>183523849
Pretend you're Mannlet and stab everyone trying to fight them in the back.

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>>183516637

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>>183523951
Not many.
>>183524152
It's extra funny because I routed Archaon, Kholek, and Sigvald in Eastern Sylvania. They just insisted on hitting me repeatedly. A combination of Block Army, Lightning Strike, and liberal use of Zombies/Claw of Nagash won the day. All that's left of the End Times are the Warherds.

>>183524340
Nagash's future is the only future.

>>183524101
Beginning is slow and ruff but customizing your warband is good fun.

>>183523730
You can't be grimdark and have it otherwise brah.

Warhams has a reputation to uphold to always be as over-the-top and metal as possible, which is why the bad guys have to win.

>>183524672
What the fuck did Nagash even want to do when everyone was dead anyway?

Everyone's a mindless zombo now? That's great, Nagash, now what. You're gonna sit around jacking your skeleboner for aeons or what?

>>183525071

>You're gonna sit around jacking your skeleboner for aeons or what?

Basically

I think Kemmler said it best.

>"You and your masters are desicated relics of a dead age. And what greater prospect do I have in Nagash's service, a future of mindless servitude in an unchanging world? The Great Necromancer is a selfish child. Though assured of his power, he remains forever terrified that another will take it from him. He will not be satisfied until his is the only will in existence, for only then can he be safe."

>>183523849
Im sure there are mods for that
Someone post one

>>183513058
rollan

>>183524101
I fucking loved it as a thing to be playing while I watch something else.

Sad that it doesn't look like anything else is coming out for it but I'd say it's worth the buy if it looks interesting

>>183525306
Kemmler is based 2bh

>>183525607
>>183513058
Just finished with him earlier today re-rollin

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>>183525071
Nagash wants to become a god to rival even chaos and what >>183525306 said.

>>183523730
Of course Chaos will always win. Men are Chaos. Magic is Chaos. Even the Undead are Chaos. Chaos must prevail because there is naught but Chaos. Chaos may appear to be an all encompassing evil, but consider that each Chaos God is also associated with a dualistic positive aspect simply by being a negative entity.

Khorne, the God of Bloodshed, abhors Sorcery, tricks, and lies. He is martial pride and honor.

Nurgle, God of Decay, loves his children even as he afflicts them with terrible diseases that are his gifts. Compassion for living things taken to the microscopic level, compassion even for a bacterial plague.

Slaanesh is the Prince of Pain, but also of hedonistic pleasure. Torture and orgies feed his power, but so does the love between a husband and a wife.

Tzeentch is the Prince of Plots, of lies and sorcery. But there can be no plots or lies without trust.

Each positive aspect of the Chaos Gods is reflected within Order, but it is still an aspect of them. Chaos is inescapable. It always prevails, one way or the other.

>>183525619
The devs are working on a Necromundia game.

>>183525071
Nagash is ultimately a nihilistic creature, a black hole that feeds on life. After all life has been extinguished, Nagash himself would cease to exist, because he would have no more living souls to reap to drive his power.

Ultimately Nagash is the god of entropy, the physical embodiment of Shyish, the magical Wind of Death. (You can hear vampire lords say "the winds of shyish" when casting spells.)

He is the embodiment of the universe's tendency toward greater entropy and ultimate deathly stasis, and as such, without life Nagash would not exist in the same way that you can't have empty space without a positive existing content to contrast it against.

>>183525951
No is just a fedoralord

>>183523730
No. The End Times never happened, it was simply a desperate attempt by a desperate company to desperately start profiting off of one of their franchises again. It should not and can not be considered canonical.

We're still in the edition prior to the End Times, yes we are.

>>183525071
>What the fuck did Nagash even want to do when everyone was dead anyway?
Go to other worlds and enslave them. That's what he told Sigmar he wanted to do.

>>183525890
Interdasternig...

Maybe they shouldn't've cancelled that Gorkamorka game afterally.

>>183525813
Very interesting. I wonder if this is the "horrible truth" that Archaon and other chaos servents realised which made them turn to chaos

>>183526217
Well sure but even if we ignore the end times I see no way to stop Chaos

How are dorfs supposed to dispatch enemy artillery?

Copters? Vanguard deployed rangers?

>>183524101
I picked it up 2 days back after TW:W gave me Warhammer itch.

A first-person SRPG has its problems.
Movement is done in points, where each point is a circle of x meters centered around your characters position and you "use" a point when you leave the circle after which a new one gets created and you get to backtrack as much as you want unless you triggered something, but sometimes it bugs out around corners and staircases and you can't backtrack.
Going from your map to first-person was pretty disorientating for me and it has a few map related bugs.

So all in all very unpolished as fuck but I'm having fun with it. Especially when RNG fucks you over, but that's the genre.

>>183513058

Rolling

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It is now July, a chill wind blows in Naggaroth but the sea of malice is beginning to thaw. From Ghrond, a messenger comes bearing word of an ancient prophecy involving the lands of north Lustria. The Hag Queens offer many sacrifices to Khaine, while their underlings train relentlessy. Meanwhile the Druchii of Clar Karond whip their slaves ceaselessly in preparation for the Witch-Kings coming campaign.
A great fleet is being assembled and the armies of the Druchii arm themselves for total war, domination by a best elf soon!

>>183526564
Gyros

>>183526564
By having more artillery than them
If you have bolt throwers they should be targetting the artillery. Make your copters do it if you have em for some reason

>>183526564
I use copters. God dman I was getting my ass kicked in my legendary dorfs campaign when chaos brought 5 hellcanons each battle until I got my copters.

Also use master engineer to sabotage enemy artillery before battles

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>>183524101
its a more frustrating X-com, but still fun in a sadistic kind of way.

>>183526649
Chaos Undivided worship Chaos in the abstract, but they're more of a 40k thing.

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>>183526645

>>183526528
Archaon fucking hate chaos.

>>183527123
>champion of chaos hates chaos
Tsundere?

>>183512651
sei proprio stronzo

>>183527123

Many scholars and wizards are aware of this reality and they don't go full retard like Archaon.

>>183527305

Maybe, I doubt he worships Malal.

>>183527305
He even killed himself, but chaos gods just load their savefiles.

>>183525813
Lizardmen are not chaos. They cannot be corrupted. It is possible that the lizard men would be able to wipe out chaos. Sigmar also is not chaos, he is the antitheses of chaos. And sigmar was once a man.
Also fuck that bullshit about chaos having a positive aspect. If the love between a man and wife fed slaanesh then he would not have any need for orgies and torture would he? As there are doubtless more loving men and wives then torture orgies. And neither would his daemons be so focused on torture orgies. They would be focused on the love between a man and women as well. The undead also are not chaos, their souls do not belong to the dark gods but to whoever raised them. The only record of an undead falling to chaos is end times bullshit, which is not part of total war warhammer.

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>>183524457

Will CA ever make Cav vs Cav charges actually interesting? Or will it forever be just a big crashing noise coupled with the two cav blobs halting in front of eachother.

I want to see Battle of the Bastards style cavalry clashes

>>183527779
not with this engine atleast

>>183527779
Nah too much charlemagnes

>>183527916
>too much charlemagnes
this is my favorite meme

>>183527532

There's not really a thing about "good" and "bad" aspects. It's just emotions.

Th thing with Chaos is that the further into the path you go, the more raw the emotion gets and the more likely you are to take it to new extremes until they turn degenerate.

Everything necromancy comes from the attempts of Nagash to not dissolve into the aether once he died, anchoring his soul into the material real as an isolated pocket. Vampires are the peak of this concept, they lose their connection to the warp and become sacks of magic, which is the reason they don't reflect in mirrors or cast a shadow (It's all in Liber Necris if you're interested)

Why the FUCK are slayer shrines so expensive?

NORSCAN GAMEPLAY NEVER!

>>183528251
The Slayer Oath aint free.

>>183528284
this. where the fuck is it? it's suppose to come out in two weeks yet we have nothing on it.

>>183528284
August 10th.

How the hell do you heal your legendary lord back up as Beastmen.
I can understand the concept of fuck healing troops, merge and get new ones but that doesn't really apply to lords and heroes.

>>183528526
Wednesday stream got cancelled because of technical difficulties.

>>183528490
Disgusting greedy stunties.

>>183528610
Pick that healing event that comes once a while

>>183523730
in 40k the Tyranids will win without a doubt, especially with all their shite about it possibly being a scouting force being sent. The end times would probably be destroying the fucking galaxy to cuck them out of biomass

>>183513058
Roll
I'm not actually going to play them though.

>>183513058
roll

>>183516867
BROTHER. The quests are annoying but when you get rolling you get rolling.

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>>183512791
Just noticed this doushio

>>183512805
>>183512959
The fuck are you on about? Playing early-game dorfs and these quarellers are carrying my ass.

Except when the vargheists LITERALLY fly circles around them

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>>183528251
>>183528490
Bugman's and mohawks not Chaos and WHAAAGs ok. praise Grimnir

>>183528610
Same as in Chaos campaign. Pray for healing potions being dopped.
I ususally get the thing for my wizards that increases magic items drop chances

What mods should I use for Warhammer? I'm looking for a more vanilla+ experience than a complete overhaul. They look a bit messy right now.

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Bara appeal aint free. The dwarven beer gotta be cultivated with the empty calories of stout ales

>>183530063
Currently I'm using:
>Ultimate Minor Settlements pack for Grand Campaign
>Cataph's: Wizard Lord Campaign Buffs
>Better Black Orcs (Visual Overhaul)
>Better Campaign Map - OVERHAULED
>All Tabletop Lords
>Cataph's Kraka Drakk and Southern Realms mods.
>The Uncivilised North.

>>183527532
>Lizardmen are not chaos. They cannot be corrupted.
Genetically engineered to be so by the Old Ones who existed before Chaos and we know nothing about. The gates the Old Ones used were also what brought Chaos into the world so don't think their existence isn't governed by the same shit.

>If the love between a man and wife fed slaanesh then he would not have any need for orgies and torture would he?
I don't know, if eating salads and slimfast is enough to get by why grill a steak?

>As there are doubtless more loving men and wives then torture orgies.
Apples and Oranges.

>And neither would his daemons be so focused on torture orgies.
Why? Daemons are caricatures of their most extreme aspects. They can't even manifest without a host or a ritualist.

>The undead also are not chaos, their souls do not belong to the dark gods but to whoever raised them.
The Undead exist via magic, and magic is Chaos. There is no magic that is not Chaos. The Undead are Chaos.

>>183530063

For a vanilla+ experience you're honestly probably just best served by looking through the most popular/most subscribed mods for many pages and picking out minor mods that looks good to you, there's not really a single mod that does something like that without overhauling way too much.

I can post the list I'm using if you're interested, though keep in mind that I wouldn't recommend this setup to everyone and that it's a bit outdated since I haven't added or subtracted from it for quite a while.

All Tabletop Lords
Beastmen: Regular Ambush Battle Maps
Better Black Orcs (Visual Overhaul)
Better Camera Mod
Better Night Goblins (Visual Overhaul)
Cataph's Magic: Closer to Tabletop
Cataph's: The Southern Realms (TEB)
Cataph's: Wizard Lord Campaign Buffs
Colossal Squigs - Updated
Garrison Commanders
Mousillon City Of The Damned vampire counts reskin
No Regeneration Cap Updated
Province Capital Building Slot Overhaul
Rebanner
Themed UI Compilation
Tier 4 Minor Settlements
Ultimate Minor Settlements pack for Grand Campaign (42 Maps)

>>183530564
Dragonslayer lord confirmed for norsca FLC pack
Get hypeeeeeeeeeee

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>>183530564
>beer [gut]
Welp, fucked that

>>183530708
>Mousillon City Of The Damned vampire counts reskin

Does that one still remove The Red Duke's helmet, making him look retarded in the diplomatic screen?

I stopped using it because I realised that for every second I got to look at those neat models, I had to spend a minute looking at his bald head in the campaign map.

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Took Zhufbar with 2 stacks of mostly trash. Ended up taking it with Vlad & Isabella, capturing the flag and chasing a shit load of routing and rerouting unites about.

>>183530884
You mean a Daemonslayer.

Dragonslayers are the hero unit, Giantslayers an upgrade to regular slayers.

>>183530063

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=892763102

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761596200

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=744844351

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>>183530990
>Took Zhufbar with 2 stacks of mostly trash.
G I V E I T B A C K , T H A G I

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>>183514572
>when you forget about a single unit and it ends up killing 3 others

>>183513058
rollan

https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/888745464329150464

>>183531906
about a year late my man, what is up witchu?

>>183526528
>I see no way to stop Chaos
Weaken the Chaos gods, by whatever means necessary. And then push their minions shit in. Hard.

>>183526697
>If you have bolt throwers they should be targetting the artillery
You'd have to cross half the map to target enemy arty with bolt throwers.

>History players are so starved of new content that they will 100% buy whatever historical game CA puts out next, even if its garbage.
There is no way you can prove me wrong.

Anyone tried krell yet?

>>183533054

Where is he?

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>>183514572

>when you forget to use your general
>and your general is grimgor

>>183533365
>an ability now counts as free downloadable content
I really want to strangle someone right now

>>183520965
Guns are GOAT, Empire is GOAT, FOTS combat is GOAT

>>183533512
It's downloadable content that's free. What's your issue, anon?

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About to start a vamps campaign with Vlad on vh. Never played them before, could i get some general tips?

>>183533818
Kill them.
Raise them.

>>183533818
make a blob of skeltals, toss them at the enemy, overcast nehek and win

>>183533512

>Content
>That you can download
>That's free

Are you sure you don't have autism my friend?

>>183533818
Play really offensively. Units start dying after a certain amount of time

>>183533818
you don't need tips, vlad is one of the easiest campaigns in the game

>take the easiest faction in the game and add a skill that allows every single unit in every army/garrison to have 3x gold chevrons

>>183533818

Expendable units are literally expendable.

3000 zombies dead in a battle against 300 pinkskins is a good trade.

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>>183533928
That sounds too easy, whats the catch?

>>183534194
There isn't. Vlad is op.

>>183534194

2 fps.

Th-thanks. What should my army setups be? Apparently they dont have archer or ranged units

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>>183534438
Line infantry and armstrong guns

>>183534438
Loads of skeles and zombos. Dogs nbats to tie up cavalry. Rest damage dealers, flying ones preferable

>>183534438

Many zombo and skellies plus your starting skellies

>>183534776
>>183534767

What about those mounted vampires in red armor? Are they a meme?

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>>183534438
One trash stack and one good stack with monsters, maybe keep some crypt horrors with the trash stack so your skellies get tricked into thinking they're important, eventually upgrade your trash stack to either skeletons or skeleton spearmen, it's still your trash stack you just have better more killy trash to throw at the enemy.

>>183535001
Best cav in game. Cost a lotta cash tho

>>183535001

If by meme you mean unstoppable monsters early game and still pretty damn good late game, then yeah.

>>183535001

Blood Knights are extremely fucking good, but they're also late-game units that you won't be using for a long ass time.

Your late game army composition will look very different, skellies and zombos will be almost entirely replaced with Grave Guard and you'll have a bunch of monsters and shit to bring the daamage

One of my Roman Expedition hordes has the plague, what am I even supposed to do about that without any sanitation buildings?