/twg/ - Total War General

>>183478740
Nah nothing comes close to SM levels of trash in fantasy. High Elves is probably the only thing you can begin to consider for that level of boring.

Empire are more like Imperial Guard.
And Imperial Guard are super based.

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REMINDER that there are brainlets that actually defend having to resort to cornercamping to win battles.

>>183478925
REMEMBER, A VOTE FOR THOGG IS A VOTE FOR FAMILY VALUES!

Norsca gameplay never.

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The whole of /twg/ is full of arguments about fantasy, the OP, comments, links; regulars, blow-ins, tripfags: they are all busy arguing.

If you ask someone what they think of patched Rome 2, he philosophizes about the Gors and the Ungors; if you inquire about the price of DLC, you are told by way of reply that fantasy is greater and history inferior; if you ask 'Is Attila any good?' the anon answers that Warhammer is the best in the series.

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It is now July, a chill wind blows in Naggaroth but the sea of malice is beginning to thaw. From Ghrond, a messenger comes bearing word of an ancient prophecy involving the lands of north Lustria. The Hag Queens offer many sacrifices to Khaine, while their underlings train relentlessy. Meanwhile the Druchii of Clar Karond whip their slaves ceaselessly in preparation for the Witch-Kings coming campaign.
A great fleet is being assembled and the armies of the Druchii arm themselves for total war, domination by a best elf soon!

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>>183479098
The only brainlets are those who don't take every advantage to achieve victory.

>>183479136
Wasn't the stream supposed to be a week ok? Have they still not sorted out their 'technical issues'?

>>183479142
Would you want some dumb ignorant bastard to answer a question about history when you ask a legitimate question?

Yea, I didn't think so.

>>183479223
Thanks for proving my point! :)

I just bought the Beastmen DLC and before I jump right in I gotta ask is there any notable differences between the legendary lords? are each one of them roughly equal in combat?

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>>183479354
Whatever you say bud.

SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS

>>183479474
Would you rather sit on the bull's cock or on a horse massive one? It is all that matters.

ARE the empire boring jack of all trades??

>>183479565
>tfw just a Sape
>will never comprehend Neanderthal IQ

>>183479474
Dear god no.
Malagor is a pretty bad lord level caster with a mediocre lore.

Khazrak is a decent manlet of a beastmen that can duel well on foot or carve through a lot of infantry on chariot.

Morghur deals little damage but is incredibly tanky and his chaos spawn abilities on the battlefield are the single best thing any lord has. Morghur singlehandedly made Beastmen viable(barely) in MP.

>>183479689
>no flying units
No. They're fun and not jack-of-all.

Ok lads, i have a question:
when are they planning to release norsca? I wanted to try empire campaign again, but im pretty sure save will crash after norscan patch, and im playing quite slowly

>>183479689
Masters of Faith
Masters of Steel
Masters of Gunpowder

>>183479076
Makes me thankful for Stormcasts honestly, I'd take Alzheimers PTSD Knights over Loyalty Purge Emperor Knights.

>>183479654
>>183479703
Cheers. Morghur sounds cool, I'll pick him first. Pretty excited for the campaign, hopefully I don't screw up too much

>>183479793
August 10th. Says so on the steam page.

>>183479774
Their lord and hero squad is a very respectable airforce.

>>183479793
The saves actually transfer decently. Like it just saves the map before the change. I played before Welves were added and for that save Athel Loren just remained unpassable.

10th of August is the Norsca release date.

>>183479793
August 10th good sir.

>>183479793
Norsca DLC featuring Woolfreak the Blunderer and Throgg the Fairly Elected will land on the 10th of August, 2017.

>>183479853
>>183479865
thanks a lot

>>183479828
Morghur annoys me.
He's so fucking good. But Minotaurs are probably more fun overall.

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>ywn be a greenskin

It's not fair lads

>>183479853
>Their lord and hero squad is a very respectable airforce.
Pumping out lvl 15's for your every army isn't exactly easy.

>>183479840
>>183479865
>>183479853
Do Warhammer 2 early adopters get Norsca early?

>>183480119
Yes indeed they do good sir.

>>183480119
No, same time as everybody else.

>>183479917
Wait do you you mean Morghur campaign can't get Minotaurs or are they just too expensive as the Lord description says 40% increased upkeep

Have they said anything at all about Norsca gameplay since the technical difficulties?

>>183480162
>>183480172
uh... which is it?

>>183480301
Nop it's unlock the 10 for everybody, if you precomand it's just free.

Why Napoleon's map is so shit?

>>183480301
you know you don't have to go and ask a website infamous for spreading grievous amounts of misinformation

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Rock the boat!

>>183480301
I apologize good sir, I was mistaken.
However early adopters do get it for free.

>>183480231
The latter. Chaos Spawn do what they do well enough so there is really no reason to go minotaurs.
Minotaurs are just nicer somehow though.

>>183480119
>>183480301
If by early you mean before game 2's launch, then yes.

Otherwise it's 10th of august no matter how you got it. Just do a little bit of research yourself.
If you're buying it(warhammer 2) from somewhere other than steam(which I recommend), make sure it's a SEGA approved one.

I got mine off bundlestars for $48 the other day.

>>183479949
Oh. Singleplayer. Yeah I guess.

>>183480376
Do you really think someone would just go on the internet and lie?

I see people wanting araby, but do they even have a proper roster? The lore seems pretty patchworked too, with their prophet and religious split

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I have a feeling that /twg/ is much faster since norsca trailer. I can't catch up with new threads.

>>183480404
Steam tank is still better, fite me.

Best spellschools? Shadow is clearly best for debuffs

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*blocks your path*

>>183480668
I step over

>>183480501
Your 8 steam tanks vs. my 18 land ships. I'll take those odds.

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>>183479927
>I will never be born from a mushroom
>I will never step naked and fully formed into the world, asking myself what the fuck is going on
>I will never pick up my first choppa and get to work smashing gits
>I will never join a waaagh and stomp 'umie and stuntie gits
>I will never go back home when that waaagh is defeated and start to work on making my own tribe
>I will never become the biggest and the strongest, then lead my own waaaagh across the stunty strongholds, Sylvania, the Empire, Athel Loren and Brettonia, to finally decide to go for the ultimate price and go conquer Norsca and the Chaos Wastes
>My name will never be known across the whole world with a mixture of fear and reverence of my achievements

>tried playing fall of samurai
>got immensely bored by turn 20
I just can't go back after warhammer. And I fear no historical tw will be as enjoyable even with mods

>>183480668
If I pull my dick out, will he go away?

>>183480481
No they don't.

People mostly want them because without them there will just be an empty void in the middle of the map.

>>183480602
Depends on the type of debuff. Shadow isn't that good.

Vampires is easily the best.
Life is a close second.

After that powergap Death probably takes the cake.
Then Beasts, Shadow and Big waaaagh.

Then light ONLY for the net.

Then the rest.

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>>183480263
Only that we have to wait till next week and then we have just two weeks until the release of that and "The new toys" for other races

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>>183480724
MANLING

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Alright starting up my first Steel Faith campaign. Any suggestions on the race?

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What a shitshow.
Everything that could go wrong went wrong.
RIP Elephants.Worst fucking day of my life.
>>183478480
I mainly use them to break up skirmisher lines since they literally will run them over. In that regard they do that job much better than other light cav.

In other situations I think they are eh, They are really sticky and pulling them out of a melee may cause them to lose some chariots, and they have a habit of crashing into allies or enemy units you dont want them to engage since the unit takes up a huge amount of space.

But Im a shitter so I dont really know whats the best use for them.

>>183480668
Keep begging, nohammer.

Won't get you back the city of pillars.

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>>183480668
*closes your door*

>>183480780
How the hell is life any good?

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>>183480870

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>>183480924

>>183480804
Empire or Orcs to check out what's new about them

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>>183480668
*Skellyports behind you*

>>183480924
Have you played the game, son?

Healing is without a doubt the biggest impact effect in the game.

The only thing else that comes close is raise dead against an idiot with a lot of missiles who doesn't expect it, or a foot of gork on three blood knights because they're not paying any attention.

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>>183480668

*tunnels into Karak Eight Peaks*

nuthin personel... git

>>183480804
That's a nice gif.

And go for the FAIREST AND MOST CHIVALROUS OF ALL

Is there a map of the hold areas I am allowed to take as Dwarfs anywhere?

>>183481136
Marius Leitdorf?

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A reminder that forming a box is a 100% legit tactic. Even the Romans did it once.

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>>183481002
>>183481136
Alright so now I am stuck between Empire and Bretboys. With Empire is there a set gameplan? I haven't played them since launch.

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>>183480769
This
I don't know what happened but every historical Total War now bores me, and i played the shit out of them before warhammer. But i can't go back to them now.
Which is weird because i keep playing other "historical" strategy games like CK2 or Stronghold 1& Crusader even now i'm drawing big map with my brother as we keep crusading through skrimishes in our co-op crusade in Stronghold Crusader
I just can't play historical Total War anymore.

>>183481263
Worth noting is that Crassus sucked.

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you're raiding the southlands when this skeleton slaps your GF's ass

what do?

>>183481274
Empire wants to take Marienburg before Bretonnia does

Bretonnia wants to take Marienburg before the Empire does

If you don't get it you're in for an interesting campaign

If you do, you've pretty much already won

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>>183481232

This work? You can take other Dwarf areas and Greenskins settlements.

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>when there's no graceposting

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>>183481274
post more comfy gifs for my gif folder

>>183481263
>>183481341
and that he died in that battle, or shortly after

>>183481345
Greet him
"Hello fellow Deadlander, I see you have touched my father's infeminate skeleton bottom. Good for thouest!"

>>183481420
neck urself my man

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>>183481420
>graceposting

How pathetic.

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>>183481439
>>183481367
Sounds pretty clear that the Wasteland will have to be mine.

guys im going to make a mod for total war attila,
>Age of Calradia
>will have the current factions in mount and blade
>Swadia, Nords, Khergit, Rhodoks and Sarranids
Are there any recommended modding tools for attila?

>>183481412

Yes that's perfect thanks.

>>183481412
>albion is a settlement
Clearly this is fake

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>>183481439

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Can we get ourself some bangin' playing tunes up in here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrvA2eAHcJ4&t=2121s

>>183481635
>having a total war map filled with FIVE (5) factions

terrible idea mate, go back to the drawing board

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>>183481274
Depends on your difficulty. You probably want to confederate pretty quicly with Averland and Stirland before they get mugged by Vlady and Izzy or TRUUUE VON CARRRCHSTEIN.

Other than that, early game can be annoying with all those Orc and Beastmen stack; try to catpure notVenise early; and to become bro with Brettonia and the winner of the Badlandsbrawl.

With Brettonia: capture NotVenise, farm those filthy greenskin. Don't go to war with other Brettonian, confederate is easy and that's part of the faction mechanic. Try to prevent Moussilon from expanding and the MOST important : Remove those fucking Woodnigers.

Don't try to overexpand, Brettonian don't really need a big territory, even with their peasant mechanics, more about crusading into far away territory. Generaly confederating Brettonia, grabbing Marienburg, Estalia and Tilea can be enough.

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>>183481694
>commies BTFO

>>183481635
You can;t mod the map anon, only start positions
>>183481698
>not making lords all vassals

>>183481662
There is shit in Albion though. Including a Lizardmen start-up temple, a Bret and Empire port town and a shoddy greenskin settlement

>>183481732
>>183481274
>>183481439
>>183481564
Also thanks, I really love those confy gif.

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>>183481786
good lad

Medieval 2 Total War (with SS)

The battle announcer keeps saying the enemy is winning when I'm winning. It's always the same thing, when the battle switches from "evenly matched" to "victory seems likely" the announcer guy says:

"Our soldiers must be fighting like old women! See how the enemy hovers around victory, like a bee around a blossom."


Halp?

>>183481345
I have garlic so he can't do nothing against me

>>183481757
>>183481698
i dont plan on making a single player, just create new factions and they can battle it out on the field.

>>183481867
Fucking Brettonian nobles.

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NOT AS PLANNED

>>183481990
>AAAAAAH KARL SAVE ME

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>>183481564
>>183481816
>>183481786
Comfy gifs for comfy threads

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Post Campaign songs. Started a Karl Camp, gotta rid the world of Chaos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgl2gBmSio4

>>183482189
>bretonnia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLj_gMBqHX8

>battle difficulty on normal
>elves get buttblasted and routs at the sight of a single goblin
>easy
>not even frail knights can hurt an elf
I just want something in the middle

>>183482382
Do you really expect frail knights to do much?

>>183482434
If those bitch ass skinny wizards who hasn't lifted a single day can...

>>183482382
stop using eternal guard

>>183482382
To be fair, frail knights usually struggle to hurt anything

>>183482616
Eternal guard are spectacular.

>>183482694
Nuh uh, they might get blown over by a slight breeze, but that don't mean they can't pack a punch

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>>183482694
>supposedly bret's top tier cavalry (saying something since their whole roster is focused on calvalry)
>they're shit

makes me thnk

>>183482361
For French noble Brettonia maybe, as for Britfag peasant Brettonia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDdX64uvgU4

>>183480783
>Foreverial tiedup and fully delitized Dwarf

Wait, is grail knights actually memed as frail? I just miswrote..

>>183482849
That's the equivalent of saying:
"no leg Greg can dance with the best of them"

>>183482895
That's gotta be awful being dragged about for months as a dwarf. Whenever you ask the git "WHAT'YA GUNNA DO WITH ME?" you always get the same answer "SUMMINK"

>>183482941
>t. Wild rider who got btfo by goblin riders

Just got Warhammer. Is there anything I need to know before playing? I already have others TW, but are there any major differences between them?

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>>183482852
Lots of cav the faction doesn't necessarily have the best cav.

>>183482924
We were meming on your typo. Grail knights themselves aren't the best. They're a good anti-large option but honestly knights of the realm do the same for more cost-effectiveness.

Grail Guardians are weird sustained combat monsters that end an obscene amount of infantry before they go down though.

>>183482895
On that note I'll be going. See ya'll august 10th.

>>183483014
Night Goblins are your betters and should be treated as such.

>>183483014
Play dwarves as first game. It says empire is medium difficulty but that's a bold faced lie with the dlcs

>>183482852
>Finally after years of humliation and ignorance by GW, Brettonia have return
>The noble Grail Knight can once more take the fields
>They're supposed to be top tiers cavalry of the Warhammer World
>They're shit tough.

Being brettonian fan is suffering.

>>183482836
you mean "spectacular fail"

>>183483014
Probably don't play Empire or Greenskins first.
Wall your settlements if you don't want chariot stacks teleporting behind your lines and razing cities.

Make sure you get all the free content dlc

>>183483014
WALLS FUCKING EVERYWHERE

>>183483126
Obscenely cost effective morale with anti-large AP behind really impressive melee defense. They're literally the best Welf unit.

Is the Bret starting trait "Virtue of the Ideal (+5 MA & MD)" limited to Paladin heroes only?

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>>183483014
you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

Best archer unit?
Best inf?
Best cav?
Best siege gun?
Best ll?
Best hero type?
Best spell school?

>>183483121
>Call yourself a fan
>Can't even spell their fucking name correctly.

>>183483050
Grail Knight are supposed to be top tiers tough. I'm gonna be pissed when Dragon Prince will come out and end being better because "Muuuuh Elves cocksucking".

Dragon prince where decent to good medium cav; they where far from being in the top tiers. Blood Dragon and Chaos Knight where far better, even my poor outdated 6th edition Grail Knight where better.

>>183482382
My first playthrough as Orion KING IN DA WOODS I just did Dwarf Boxes but with elves, and kicked the shit out of everyone. Eternal Guard on Guard Mode hold up really well. Only downside is running out of ammo.

>>183483249
I'm not a fan. I hate warhammer!

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Thoughts on this army comp?I want go go for something new instead of mass pike phalanxs.

How should I use these guys other than throwing javelins and charging?

Also the two empty spots are for merc. elephants.

>>183483235
Bugman's Rangers.
CHOSEN.
Demigryphs.
Hellcannon.
Vlad.
GONNA STAB!
Vampire.

Are they going to change the campaign map(adding cities etc.) for the Norsca DLC?

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What did they mean by this

>>183483249
Probably bait but wut ? What do you mean ?

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>>183483235
>Best archer unit
Quarrelers
>Best Inf
Chosen
>Best Cav
Blood Knights
>Best Siege Gun
Hellstorm Rocket Battery
>LL
TRUE KING OF EIGHT PEAKS
>Hero
Wight King (for looks)
>Spell school
Jade because muh healz

>>183483207
>They're literally the best Welf unit.
Wild Riders Numbah 1
Eternal Guard Numbah 2

>>183483347
>vampire
Lol no, even unmodded necro is better

>>183483290
Do you know a mod that brings them to a lore-friendly level? I've never played TT, but would prefer something lore-friendly over just a random buff.

>>183483318
Then why are you in a Warhammer general?

>>183483347
>>183483403
Sorry I wasn't clear, I was asking about Warhammer 2

>>183483460
Two stacks is fine as long as they're good units

Try to give one of your lords Lightning Strike so you can deal with the AI throwing stacks at you (they tend to do that for some reason)

>>183483428
I meant Lore of Vampires, miscommunication on my part.

>>183483290
I think Dragon Princes are statted reasonably actually. The old world triumvirate of best cavalry still holds I think.

>>183483416
Yeah Wild Riders are really nuts, they still seem a bit more fair to me than Eternal Guard though.

>>183483471
I'm just memeing because I'm still butthurt over getting btfo by wild fags

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>>183483372
Do you see this picture?

Do you see the name of the faction on this picture?

Do you see what the problem is?

>>183483540

>reddit spacing

>>183483343
The best thing about sillykids is having alternatives to the phalangites.

>>183483347
>>183483491
Like predictions?

>>183483235
Glade guard with starfire shafts
FOOT SQUIRES
Wild Riders
Gob Lobber
Morghur
Branchwraith
Lore of Vampires

>>183483540
Yeah, Brettonia. Looks fine to me.

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>>183483540
>being autistic over spelling

>>183483597
I love this meme. Keep on shining you crazy diamond.

>>183483521
And I mean lore of necro. Though I probably misremember. Maybe it was death. Whatever let's you summon

>>183483634
>I'm a fan of this faction
>You can't even spell their name correctly.
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN? ARE YOU BAITING?
>You spelled their name wrong.
>WOW STOP BEING SO AUTISTIC!

>>183483634
Poor spelling is why so many brets get cucked to death every day. You got their blood on your hand.

>>183483453
No halas, I know they are a overhaul balance mod for brettonia, but I never tested it myself ( I generaly avoid installing mods during a campaign to avoid bugs)

Here if you want to see it
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=877713109&searchtext=Grail

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>>183483703
>sees someone spell the name wrong
>face gets red, begins to dry heave and sweat profusely
>makes an angry meme arrow post while not trying to screech at his mom for more hot pockets
>presses post while not realizing he is a sperg
>regrets being a live

>>183483695
That's Lore of Vampires. Early Vampire heroes only had Lore of Death (and later got Lore of Shadows), while Vampire Lords and Necromancers have Lore of Vampires. So we agree with each other.

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>tfw you realize Franz has the same skill tree as an Empire General
>tfw you realize the Empire has 3 mediocre LLs
>tfw you realize Gelt is the """best""" LL to start because of his +10 armor
>tfw you realize you remove Gelt on turn 1 and replace him with a generic lord because he's trash and magic is trash
>tfw you realize the Empire isn't getting an alternate start anytime soon
>tfw you realize Vampire Counts got more cool free stuff

The only thing the Empire has going for it is being able to cheese with FCM and auto-resolve.

>>183483121
They are still very good cav, they are just overpriced

They have always been on par with Chaos Knights and Blood Knights for the title of best cavalry

What's missing WHFB faction are you most looking forward to?

Mine is Ogger Kingdoms.

>>183483235
HANDGUNNERS
Gobbos with Skarsnik
Blood Knights are the coolest
Top Secret Flame Cannon Tech
The TRUE von Carstein
Anything vampire
Lore of Vampires

Gelt's about to get gobbo'd.

>>183483845

>golden dog spam is trash

Take that back you double nigger

>>183483343
I'd go archers over slingers. Slingers in DeI seem really underwhelming.
Maybe go with some horse archers instead of your medium cav?
They're super heavy melee inf. They're your anvil, not much else you can do with them.

>>183483885
Chorfs to be quite honest and sincere my familial brother

Has anyone made an FFTactics War of the Lions mod for Total War?

>>183483491
Darkshards
Pheonix Guard
Cold One Knights
Warp Lightning Cannon
Malekith
Gutter Runner
Dunno. They haven't showed much and have been hinting at an overhaul.

>>183483235
>Quarrelers
>CHOSEN
>pure cav? Blood Knights, monster cav? Pegasus Royal Knights
>Hellcannon
>Tree Hitler
>Gorebull
>Vampires

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>>183483540
Hummm ? No not really ? I'm mean yes I made a error on spelling because I'm a retard who think words in english are probably different than in his mother language and try to write thing as he heard it.

>>183481697
Medieval party anthems MCLXVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaRNvJLKP1E

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>>183483907
>Pic

>>183483885
More greenskin options, ogre kingdoms, chorfs, hobgobbos and more monsters for everyone.

>>183483491
>Darkshards
>Executioners
>Dragon Princes
>Whatever the Skaven will have
>Kroq-Gar
>Uh...
>Dark Magic

>>183483885
Chorfs if they portray them as filthy babylonian types with heavy accents

Ogres otherwise

>>183483235
>>183483491
>Darkshards / repeater crossbows
>Temple Guard
>Cold one knights (likely replaced with Horned one knights)
>Mazdamundi
>Interested in how Khainite Assasins will be
>High magic

>>183483981
>I'm a retard who think words in english are probably different than in his mother language and try to write thing as he heard it.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>183484015
Gelt is not my Lord. He is weak magic caster and probably useless as well :DDD:DDDD

for the Steel Faith goyim out there: https://www.patreon.com/posts/content-patch-2-13198913

>>183484112
>Darkshards
>Dreadspears
>Bleakswords

Why did GW do this?

>>183483875
That's the problem; I mean how it comes that the cav spam faction must pay most for it's elite cav than the Elite Infantry focus faction ? (Even if it's not by much, but considering Chaos Knight haver better MD and MA...)

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>Fat.
>Loud.
>Obnoxious.
>Eats all the time.
>Obsessed with guns.
>Ruthless capitalists.
>Leader is a retarded rich guy.
>Constantly gets involved in other peoples conflicts.
>"""Native""" lands were conquered from another race, once mighty, but now reduced to a few inbred alchoholics.
>What little culture they have is based entirely around shitty food, as a result they immitate and appropriate other peoples culture.
>Reliant on the mass labor of a lesser race to do all the shitty jobs they don't want to do.
>Is constantly kept in check by a race of large-nosed, darkhaired, hatwearing, greedy imperialists.

These are all the reasons why Ogres are the worst WHFB race.

>>183484239
So armies had obvious themes and so each was distinct from the next

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>>183483235
>>183483491
>Best archer unit?
Helf sea guard, being anti large as their melee option means you either take these guys to babysit your more specialized archers, or you only take them and now your archers don't need a big stong melee unit to hold their hand while they fire
>Best inf?
Temple guard
>Best cav?
Dragon princes or horned one riders
>Best siege gun?
Stegadon with a giant crossbow
>Best ll?
Probably Malekith
>Best hero type?
Combat heroes, best hero is going to be the Skink chieftain
>Best spell school?
High magic

>>183484257
Just like Amerifats, they're fun as fuck to be pretend to be though.

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>>183478925
>‘Sure boss, thanks boss, whatever you say boss.’ The despondent goblin perked up. ‘Kruggler’s boys will always be the gobboes of Warlord Skarsnik!’ Skarsnik smiled wryly. ‘Warlord, eh? I likes that.’ Kruggler looked at his feet, his cheeks and nose tip colouring. ‘I means it, boss. And it’s not just me as is calling you that now. You killing that rattie big boss, Grom hisself couldn’t have done it better.’ Warlord, the highest of all the ranks of orcdom. There have been few goblin warlords in history, so Skarsnik told me proudly, secure in the knowledge that he was one of them. He dared to dream, to be the next Grom the Paunch, but the title spoken out loud almost sounded like an affront to their twin gods. The word hung in the air. For the goblins, this slip of Kruggler’s was as significant and embarrassing as an unexpected kiss between friends who wish to be lovers, but neither dare say
C U T E
U
T
E

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>>183484257
skaven are the worst race my dude

>>183484257
Don't forget that they love cosplaying as other races

>>183484321
Skaven is rennaissance-industrial britland.

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>>183484225

>- Blood Dragon Warriors (An elite band of Vampire warrior infantry, highly skilled and versatile).

uhh

so i got warham and all its dlc during the summer sale and have been playing it non stop. games great and all but i want know why is the empire so conservatively designed compared to the other races?

every faction has one or two really fun lords, but the empires all kind of suck.

>grombrindal
>vlad & izzy
>morhgur
>durthu
>kholek
>skarsnik & wurrzag
>the fay

and their campaign is atrocious, their offices gimmick sucks too and their buildings seem way more expensive while doing less than other races. also their technology tree is trash.

>>183484257
Nicely done.

>>183484225
>more Lore-inspired units added
wuh woh

>>>183484225
>Krell, the Lord of Undeath: Overhauled and improved! Once summoned by Kemmler, he will no longer degrade over time like a pathetic weak summon. He is now larger, and physically imposing, with Heroic Killing blow to crush his enemies, and he never tires with immunity to fatigue.
>Black Grail Knights (Very rare, but immensely powerful; this band of Undead mounted heroes crush the enemy before them. Obtained only from conquering Couronne in the campaign).
Bullshit Mouislon should have this in their starting capital
>god gors
lovely can tike that off the pastebin
>New Chaos Marks for Beastmen and Chaos Warrior Lords and Heroes! Choose between the Mark of Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeentch, and Slaanesh which alter both your characters and their armies.
Does he work for CA
>Chaos ruins spread corruption
took long enough to intergrate

>>183484379
Probably dismounted blood knights or something

>>183484350
"I MAY LOOK LIKE AN OGRE! BUT I'M 1/16th NATIVE LIZARDMAN, SO DON'T YOU TRIGGER ME."

>>183483235
Wolf Rider Archers
Nasty Skulkers
Wolf Riders
Rock Lobber
SDurthu
Goblin Big Boss
The Little Waaagh

>>183484350
Already in there:
>as a result they immitate and appropriate other peoples culture.

>>183484379
dismounted blood knights, as all blood dragons are vampires of the Blood Dragon line which seek a worthy foe to slay to cure their vampiric curse

>>183484481
Sorry my bad, I'm actually illiterate and my text-to-speech tool doesn't do blocks of greentext well

>>183484512
>>183484379

Yeah but, infantry?

I thought they were a cavalry only option in TT?

>>183484320
Skarsnik had some really weird homo-erotic shit every once in a while.

Are the solar engines on lizardmen big ass laser guns like the luminark of hysh?

>>183484575
>he hasn't played tabletop and seen the deathstar units of vampires in grave guard with necromancers and a BSB

>>183484575

>mods
>lore accurate

Stick to vanilla with UI shit, never take anything that "improves" the game, because they don't.

>>183484708
>vanilla
>with chaos norscan spears and werekin skin wolf (armoured)

>>183484575

>>183484708
don't listen to this crybaby nerd, just play the game how you feel like doing it

>>183484575
If it's a cool conversion used as a counts-as or with reasonable rules, who fucking cares. That's the whole point of tt, no fun RAW WAAC faggots need not apply.

>>183484225
>5 people are paying $35 a month for a free mod
What kind of bizzaro world am I living in?

>>183484239
>Why did GW do this?
Why did GW name things in very specific ways?
So they could copyright them.

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>>183484257
Smashing stuff is fun though.

>>183484830

That was my point? Dont use mods that add shit.

>>183484935
My point was that vanilla isn;'t staying fluffy anyway, so you'll have to use mods to remove this stuff

>>183484915

Kislev when? RRRRREEEEEEEE

>>183484992

I don't get it, those units arent in vanilla.

>>183484915
>tfw they wont add a horse tackling animation when ogres are implemented

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>>183484320
...gits all of 'em, I sayz.

>>183485027
They will be with the norscan dlc, speaking of which are they getting unique heros now and so not stealing chaos champions and wizards

>>183484575
For some odd reason, a lot of modders seem to think that every faction needs infantry to compete with chosen

>>183484386

My guess is that they designed the Empire first and either didn't have time or just didn't bother to properly iterate on them

>>183484915
HORSE TACKLE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5A0pg4oN8

>>183485042
>tfw no wrestler Ogres who suplex everything, regardless of size

>>183485042
If we get monster vs monster animations in WH2 we can hope anon.

>>183485081

I mean that's true. still though there's a difference between CA adding stuff from unofficial books and taking established shit and breaking the lore entirely. But as that other anon said it's anyones choice really do what you want I guess.

>>183485148
>a vampire getting off his horse is breaking the lore

Stop overreacting.

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>>183484915

How will Ogres compete when there's so much anti large shit in the game already?

>>183485238
it doesn't, people are just trying to find reasons to vilify SFO when its far better than anything radious put out

>>183485279

Unique traits that gives them reduced damage taken from anti large likely.

>>183484605
Silly git, gobbos can't be gay. Not like dem 'oomies.

>>183485279
>>183484915
It's very quickly becoming my fantasy to watch an Ogre army fight a Skaven or Lizardman army.

>>183485279
By not being a large unit

>>183485334
I really like SFO, but what I liked most about SFO was that it did a cool rebalance of the existing units. Not really into it for extra ~lore inspired~ units. I guess Mr SFO feels required to add more stuffs now that he's a fancy Patreon Person.

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>In the description of the Victory Points is stated they give a leadership bonus to the side of the battle who controls it.
>However, the actual bonus they give is +0.

Holy shit bravo CA

>>183485279
An army made up of entirely monsters?

Yeah I think they'll do just fine.

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>>183485279
WE'S GNOBBOS
GONNA UH...? STAB! YEAH DAS RIGHT GONNA STAB!

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>>183484386


oh fugg I just realised I forgot to assign any offices at all in my most recent Empire campaign

>>183485430
outschemed

>>183484708

If you play the game with the dogshit vanilla AI recruitment there's something wrong with you.

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>>183484915
>That guy with the cossack hairstyle making his desperate last stand with a leg trapped under his fallen horse.

It's a shame GW's artistic golden age has been and gone. It's the little things that make me love warhammer so much.

>>183485279
Adapting the Bull Charge mechanic to help them get around it.

The trick will be to neither make them underpowered (due to being an all-large unit army easily countered by spears) nor overpowered (due to being an all-large unit army that can't be countered with spears).

>>183483290
Please for the love of Christ improve your fucking English

>>183485508
Imagine the hellish existence that is being a gnoblar. You are literally the cattle for ogres.

>>183485604
On the contrary, being an Ogre pet can be a pretty good life.
House niggers.

>>183484239
making the edgelord faction edgier

and copyright bullshit, because no one else is retarded enough to put those autistic names in display

Found this on the warhammer wiki while reading up on ogres, I remember arguing with a guy about whether or not Halflings are related to Ogres and I mentioned not being able to find any mention of it on the wikis, figures that should have checked the entries on Ogres and not just Halflings.

>human scholars, led by the strangely prophetic Imperial philosopher Albrecht of Nuln, believe that Ogres are close kindred to the race of Halflings, perhaps coming from some common stock, but somewhere in time splitting into two divergent species,

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>>183485516
Religious celibacy being penetrated by violent rape monsters is my fetish. Bonus points for tentacles and/or mind breaking into a slut.

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>>183485279
No idea

>>183485664
I guess that could be another reason they get along.

>>183485657
Also, Gnoblars are super inbred and disgusting from having their gene pool decimated every generation by the Ogre's appetite.

>>183484225
>https://www.patreon.com/posts/content-patch-2-13198913
>600+ $ per month
>locked paid content (on a mod)
how is this bullshit allowed? never shilling this piece of shit again

fuck these kikes

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>winks at camera

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>>183485560

Is there a chance that they will add Kislev? Admittedly you wouldn't be able to do much with them in the GC.

>>183485697

>SoB
>celibate

Now that's a laff

>>183485832
it's always the jews isn't it

>>183485664
Just made me realize we may get halflings put into the game when we get ogres. That'd be neato.

>>183485604
Not much more hellish than being any number of the of the other puny races. Plus Gnoblars are dumb as fuck and don't have much capacity to recognize danger until its absolutely imminent.

Cant wait for them and hobgoblins. Ugly jew races are the best. Hope we get one of those rogue armies full of them an maybe clanrat slaves and peasants.

>>183485814
>Inbred
That's not how Greenskins work, anon.

https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/888745464329150464

>>183485834
>Lord's missing his head
>Goblin Archers
wtf

>>183485901
Asexual spore men can still get inbred if all the representatives of a certain genetic trait get eaten every generation.

>>183485907

wow!

>>183485837

Maybe. When they first announced Norsca they said "It's isn't Kislev (Sorry!)." So they're aware of the interest for it at least.

>>183485907
Goddammit I don't give a fuck about no animated models, just show us the norsca gameplay!

>>183485907
>Cold One on a Saturday
Nice

>>183486017
No stuff allowed.

>>183485907
How big is a Cold One? Is it the size of a raptor or smaller>

>>183484575
Blood Knights are only a branch of the Blood Dragon bloodline and ride on horseback in units

The Blood Dragon is a vampire bloodline (akin to the Von Carsteins or Strigoi) that seeks to slay the most worthy foes in singular combat, like their "father" Aborash did, to cure themselves of their thirst for blood, and as the Lords/heroes they are, they can be fielded on foot

>>183486017
Saturdays are for Cold Ones with the boys, mate.

>>183485907
can't wait to crack one of those open with my dwarf slayers
>>183486072
raptor, it's a horse but scaly

>>183484627
yes, but they fire faster, are less accurate, carry an accuracy debuff and don't deal as much damage

there's also the Bastiladon itself

>>183484239
To be fair it fits the dark elves perfectly

Are you embarrassed by how edgy the names are or something? If you aren't here to be over the top evil and dramatic maybe dark elves aren't your thing

>>183486141
Thanks. Can see why it's feared. I hope someone makes a Jurassic Park map in the second game.

>>183486079

So would they be like Aspiring Champions rather than a big block of infantry?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3bRcb-2ggg
Spooky. Isn't just hearing the bell enough to make you go insane? Vermintide crossover when?

>>183485960
But anon, a greenskin genetic trait isn't lost if he die, it's even the opposite; a gnoblar geating his head bit off will sprouth spore all around.

What are some evil acts you will commit as Dark Elves?

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You're at the local inn when this guy slaps your burgomeister's ass, what do you do?

Keep in mind he is a state trooper and devout follower of Sigmar.

>>183486253

Be an elf.

>>183486253
Have sex with your own mother

What is your favourite Warhammer 40K race?

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>>183486253

Gonna step back into the flame of asuryan after 5000 years of civil war and become the phoenix king

LOCK ME UP

>>183486253
Shave Dwarfs.

>>183485361
>This is a 10/10 in the Ogre kingdoms

>>183486390

No it's from Witcher 3

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>>183486240
>Grace got paid to upload a minute long sound clip of her banging a bucket to youtube
>Autists eat this shit up
Fuck. What an easy life.

>>183486390
>Implying it isn't a 10/10 everywhere.

Your gay or what ?

>>183486438
My point still stands.

>>183486317
Squats

>>183486237
They should be individual duelist Lord/heroes, but aspiring champion is close enough

>>183486253
Instigate War of the Beard 2.0

>>183486452
you can't even begin to imagine the things i would pay to have her do

>>183486452
>that gap
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Steel, faiths and lots and lots of gunpowder

>>183486438
>This is 10/10 in slav lands

>>183486597
and goblin archers

>>183486597
>Gobbo archers
DELET THIS

why does grimgor kill stuff?

>>183486597
Brutally kunnin' / 10

>>183486452
That's women for you. They get money thrown at them simply by streaming themselves playing a vid game on bed and showing their feet on the camera.

>>183486601
Poles are Wends! Not Slavs!

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>>183486693
Too dumb to think of anything else to do.

>>183486693
HE NEEDS A PROPA' RUCKUS

>>183486693
He 'ates everyfing that ain't his 'ard lads.

>>183486693
He was molested as a child.

A lot of pent up rage there.

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>>183486693

Because the world is a fuck

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>>183486694
>when black orcs kill surtha ek a turn before you
Well at least Norsca is barren

So I'm a huge Warhammer fan, but I got rocked trying TW:W as Empire my first time awhile ago. I realize I'm probably just retarded, but which game is easiest to get a feel for how the game controls/learn how the fuck to play this series? I have Warhammer, Rome 2, Rome, Empire, and Medieval 2.

>>183486940
Just like your future wife. *casts curse*

>>183486693
Okay so what if I want my baby to be raised as an orc

Can I sneak into their camp or whatever and leave him in front of Grimgor's tent? What are the chances he raises my kid as a brutal orc instead of just smashing him with the side of his axe?

How does experience gain work? Do units get experience for kills?

>>183486172
Not that faster

They also have a shitty range of 300ish

The Bastiladon dies easily to citizen spearmen

If they really needed to give the Lizardmen artillery they should have just used the Stegadon with a giant crossbow (fires multiple bolts), the Stegadon with a giant blowpipe (for anti-large), Salamander (flame weapons), Razordon (close range multiple shots) and if they're reaching far back to the cartoon era there was also a Bastiladon that hurls the fire rock thingy that the Terradon uses

>>183487029
>What are the chances he raises my kid as a brutal orc instead of just smashing him with the side of his axe?
None.

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>>183486998
You mad whiteboi

>>183487029
None.

This is the Orc that almost slaughtered the entire Skaven race.

>>183487082
This is dumb.
Pyromancers can't be hotheads without heads.

>>183487060
yes kills or heroes embedded,
>>183487029
>humie
>being anything but a bard
>>183486991
Atills as saxons or ERE (which isn't true rome)

>>183487082

>dumbass beastmen not running from that

They deserve their fate as a pest and being Chaos slaves.

>>183486991

Shogun 2

>>183487082

>poison ungor archers

What mod?

>>183487152
>ERE (which isn't true rome)
More true than Reddit Rome.

>>183486245
Won't work if he's swallowed whole, though.

>>183486940

>Top Knotz
>Black Orcs

Que?

>>183487235
until a bunch of greenskins pop out from the Ogre dung pile

>>183486708
I think you mean
>that's men for you, they throw money at women simply for streaming themselves playing vidya in bed and showing their feet
Hate the consumer, not the producer.

>>183487235
Gnoblar noose is a delicacy, it must be properly cook ! I'm deadly serious.

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>>183487146
*teleports behind you*