/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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Souls needs cat girls

>>183341317
You wouldn't use FUGS regardless because it's the second- or third-worst UGS in the game.

>try a gesture at firelink to see how it looks with my armor
>get paranoid that someone will see a ghost of some loser gesturing by himself

>>183341505
Has the longest range at least. Yhorm's Machete is the best heavy weapon by far though.

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Shit spell

>>183341505
It has a poke R2, deals only blunt damage, is pretty long compared to other UGS, can be buffed, and is a pretty good shield

FUGS isn't bad.

>>183341726
It's pretty slow to cast but combining it with Black Serpent can pressure an opponent to making a big, punishable mistake in duels.

Not that great in invasions though.

>>183341726
Meme spell

>>183341665
>Caring about what other losers think when they can't even see your name

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Post cute

>>183341686
At the cost of being the second-heaviest weapon in the entire game and still being outdamaged by a bunch of weapons lighter than it with better movesets.

>>183341726
>hating on free rollcatches: the spell

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I'm showing my newfaggotry trying to figure this out, but I'm going to do it anyway.

I'm going to use the crystal chime, regardless of how absurd it is. I thought I'd need a Lightning spell for dragonfags.

What do I really need to equip if I'm going to use a 40/40 Crystal Chime? 40/40 is the scale limit on the catalyst.

>>183341726
Automatic rollcatching, just add FP

>>183341505
It's long, has the poke R2s and rolling R1s and has Greathammer poise.

it's breddy gud

>>183341978
Change your mace to chaos or dark

Your lightning spells are going to do no fucking damage because you're wearing sorcery boost rings

>>183341978
STOP USING A CRYSTAL INFUSION ON YOUR WEAPON. USE DARK OR CHAOS.

>>183342054
CKGS has the poke R2 as well, which you can chain into from the basic R1.

>>183341946
Well yeah STR weapons will always be at a disadvantage. Much more fun to play with though.

>>183342095
>>183342131
It's Simple infusion, for FP recovery. It's not meant for dealing damage.

Does anyone want to help a PC shitter transfer a war-banner from one character to another?

>>183342429
>You Died

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buff when

>>183342141
It's doesn't have those annoying poke rolling R1s though. That's basically all you're going to be hitting people that know how to dodge with.

>>183342429
>0.35 FP/sec

It's basically worthless. One more cast of Crystal Soulmass after two minutes.

You'd be much better served actually having a weapon which can threaten enemies.

>>183342434
I can just outright drop the banner for you. Come to High Wall and set your pass to dsg

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>tfw you ruin some gank squad's master plan

>>183343035
Thanks a ton, man! Don't know why all the cool stuff shows up too late to really appreciate it.

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>DaS rtsr

little bit other level than DaS3 one

fucking tripled damage

>>183342714
Never ever. DaS3 is

A B A N D O N E D

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>>183343387
I'm thinking of starting up my pope invasions again so I can finish my shitty video I started making back when the game came out

>>183342741
>rolling attacks with ultras

Don't you just get parried though? They're so easy to land in DaS3 and the bigger the weapon the easier it gets.

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>>183343387
>>183343760
That wasn't the right webm

How difficult is it to do a pure sorcery playthrough?

>>183343927
parry fishers can be very easy to deal with

>>183344001
Not too difficult. I imagine it'd be even easier in 3 with ashen estus and shit.

>>183344109
Parrying a rolling R1 isn't fishing.

>>183343992
What level? 40/45?
My experience with glass cannon mage builds has been shit, but they sure are fun.

>>183344398
it can be in some cases

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>>183344439
I think it's level 52 with a +5? Back when I did these invasions the game was a lot newer and there were a lot of overleveled people to target in the catacombs. If I go back I'll probably have to start learning more shenanigans to hit Irithyll pre Pontiff.

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>>183341351

Question about the +3 rings: Do you have to be in NG++ to get them, or can you just go to the Ringed City in your first cycle and get the +3 rings?

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>>183344581
Ringed city in NG has them. Theoretically you could kill Crystal Sage, get to Cathedral, go to painted world, kill Friede, then get to TRC and get your +3 FAP.

>>183344398
Yeah it's not like you need to bait them. 9 times out of 10 if someone rolls towards you at their weapon range you know they're gonna attack, easiest parries you'll ever get.

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Where are all the Locust Preachers located in TRC?

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>>183345426
The city.

>Pestilent Mercury + Aural Decoy

So much fun.

So you get a rigged ass PvP weapon as reward for accepting 5 free levels?

This is all coming from the same dude that made a 50% hp reduction penalty for dying?

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>that one invader who switches sides to the ganksquad so he doesn't die

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>>183347325
>dies anyways because the host doesn't care

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Okay, I fixed my cancer with more cancer. How does it look now?

>>183347898
Oops, didn't fix spells. How about Farron Flashsword, Soul Greatsword, and Soul Stream?

>>183347898
There's no reason to get int that high, it softcaps at 60

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>>183348161
Seriously? The more I revise my set, the more retarded I feel.

I thought the Court Wizard's Staff capped at 99, like Logan's in DS1.

Whats the best infusion for a sl 500+ character in DS 2?

>>183348596
>>183347898
>the more retarded I feel
You don't just feel like a retard, you are actually retarded. Try at least googling soft caps and basic game mechanics before making a build in Mugen.

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Lads,
Is a raw longsword a viable replacement for the raw ASS?

>>183349650
Raw longsword has slightly higher AR and no faith requirement.

Broadsword = 322 AR
Longsword = 309
ASS = 301
LKS and DS = 299

>>183349045
Depending on your build, it might be Mundane.

>>183350623
noice
Thanks anon

>>183349045
Why not max? Everyone you get matched in arena with will be. Expect Havel casters out the ass, so maybe lightning since that's the set's weakest resistance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9b_imnt7FE

There's no reason to hate on Farron UGS unless you're a shitter
Prove me wrong
Protip your can't

>>183346763
Dark Hand is only good at low levels, same as Borthammer. Once you get to Carthus and beyond, you see much less of both.

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>>183352227
This guy slaps your girlfriend's ass and kills your with his circle attack spam. What do?

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>>183352872

>>183352872
*wears armor*

>>183352872
*blasts face with vestiges*
nothin personnel kid
*lights cigarette with finger*

>>183352801
Borthammer's still very good for co-op and invasions up to meta level, it's just disproportionately good during the first half of the game.

What webm converter is the best one to use?

>>183353861
webm for retards

Anyone have good Gwyndolin sliders that aren't shit like the ones on YouTube and leddit?

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>everything in ringed city resists dark weapons

>>183355194
well, so much for my onyx blade

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>>183351720
LEL at the video! +1 upboat 2 u sir!

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so I farmed rhoy for the seal, and I beat raime on my first try since playing In years.

>>183355194
>cheat engine my way through TRC because i just want to invade and cant be assed to sit and learn the bosses

What a naughty boy I am

What a wonderful feeling when you finally manage to get somewhat get good.

>>183356630
>tfw you first learn to roll and never use a shield again

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>>183356630
>killing dancer nonchalantly before vordt with a +1 weapon
>It wasn't a bandits knife
Feels good man. I only did it to get the shitty tome that lets me get the shitty blessed weapon spell. Why does blessed weapon look so cool but do fucking nothing?

>>183356854
>tfw beat a 4 man gank squad for the first time
I felt like a god
Now it's a part of a natural process as I take a sip from my tea and spit on the host

>>183356961
It's an incredibly good buff for only requiring 15 faith. You're supposed to use it on high AR weapons like Ultras and GHs, since it adds pure physical (unsplit) AR as a percentage independent of spell buff.

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>>183356987
>gank squad

I'm fucking terrible at PvP but I felt pretty good after this.

>>183357503
Eh, actual pvp can be very similar to that fight.
Truth is most people in the game act like AI, they do the same moves and rarely improvise new ones to fit the scenario.

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>>183357503
I actually enjoyed that boss allot. They weren't too bad if you used the circle around, jump in the water attack them as you run up the exit ramp, repeat; method.

>>183356987


Dragon slayer great axe is the best wepon for dealing with gank fags. Even with garbage faith stats that special attack does top tier damage and hit people from all directions.

>>183358353
It's a good weapon indeed, but I don't like heavy weapons in this game.
Against gank squads I either isolate a player or just parry dumb cunts

>Haven't played DaS3 since launch
>Finally get good and able to PvP decently
>Hosts keep getting killed by most obvious and stupidest shit ever
I can't salvage this! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! I JUST WANT TO HELP BUT EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIES.

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>>183359053
>Doing co-op instead of invasions
>Thinks he got good

>>183359354
I do have an old character I can use that for, thanks for the vote of confidence anon. I'll make you proud!

>>183358004
Things like phantom range and poise mechanics in PvP just frustrate me too much. Plus all the fun weapons are straight up outclassed by generic swords

Invasions are a great mechanic but it's clear Souls games weren't designed for arena/dueling metas

DS2fag here, playing Scholar for the first time. When's a good time to do the DLC, and in what order?

Also I have 50 Int at this point and am going for a sorcery/hexing build, right now I'm upgrading my Staff of Wisdom and trying to get a Faintstone for my rapier. What should I be spending my souls on?

>>183360108
I generally like to do the dlc in the release order (Sunken>Brume>Ivory). Scholar however switched the dlc key locations, so you might as well do them in the order you find them.

>>183360108
Attunement. Attunement is super important in DaS2, since it also increases cast speed and agility.
I've never played a hexer in DaS2, but I'm pretty sure dark scales with the lower of your INT/FTH stats. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

>>183360108
I'd do the dlc at least after getting to Vendrick.
Most enemies are poisetanks who will btfo you with ease at lower levels.
And for a hex build I can only reccomend a Sunset staff, dark Ice rapier, dark Chaos blade or a dark Greatsword. For spells use GRS & Toxic fog (or whatever it was called) and whatever else you have the slots for.

>>183360108
If you want to go hexer you should try to make your int and faith the same amount (as dark scales off the lowest of the two) and dont surpass 30/30. Put the rest in attunement

>>183360108
You'll struggle as a caster, the DLC bosses have very high resistances.

Ahh, my dear little Ocelotte.

>>183360613
Ok, so I should use a Soul Vessel or w/e?
>>183360602
How do I make a Dark Chaos blade?

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>Pick up that FFXII remaster to take a break from Souls
>Keep instinctively tapping R1 and Circle
>Get worried about staying in one spot for too long in case someone invades me
S-send help.

alright

i bought dark souls 2 a while back. never beat it. give me some tips to give a pleb a chance. i dont know what im doing

>>183361082
Beat the lost sinner with a bonfire ascetic and trade the extra soul with that bird thing.
Depending on your SL I'd reccomend getting human phantoms to help since the npc ones will die before even getting to the boss.

>>183361082
Depends, if you want to go hexes only you should respec those extra 20 points from int, but if you want to still cast sorceries you can keep them

The chaos blade is a weapon you get from beating lost sinner +1, infuse it with dark and enjoy

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Is it at all possible to make a build for the Crucifix of the Mad King and the Preacher's Right Arm? I wish to become the Lord of Limbs

>>183361206
Start as a Cleric, heals are useful since you have no estus and the mace can tear through most of the game.

>>183361206
go cleric
talk to people after buying a lot from them
if you have no souls talk to the armorer
hit the stone in the well
torches are your friend
level up adaptability 5 or 6 times

>>183361360
Those would probably be fine on a STR pyro build, I don't know if the arm is worth using with only 40 INT though.

>>183361360
>Lord of Limbs
What an awesome name

>>183361261
NPCs are really useful for Lost Sinner on NG+, they automatically tank the black phantoms for you.

Generally speaking they're better than actual players in hard boss fights due to their HP.

>>183361206
Aight. i'll try not to spoil errything but most likely you'll feel beyond frustrated at some point and turn to the wiki.

If you played Das1 or 3 rolling feels 20x more stamina consuming.
The nigger-tier enemy placement is something you'll have to get used to throughout the entire game.
Go full 40STR and get the Dragon's tooth or the Greatsword to +5/+10 ASAP
Save your effigies for when you found the boss and you know you'll need phantoms -not for any random difficult area. Unlike embers, these don't drop after every successful coop so they feel a lot more scarce.
You can STILL be invaded even while hollow.
so watch out for this on the Bell areas.
Hug the Fume Knight on HIS left/rear left and you won't even need to roll his attacks.
The heavily fogged area is bullshit if you don't have a wide swinging weapon. Just stick to the left wall and you'll get past it

Can't think of anything else right now but just ask questions here when you get stuck. You'll get some sensible answers most of the time.

Why is the Black knight greatsword so good?

Haven't really touched DS3 since launch, thinking about doing a run to see the dlc. Is Moonlight Greatsword viable at this point, and are there any interesting Int-based weapons in the dlc? Also, are hexes still just straight garbage?

>>183361301
Cool, thanks. I'll go work on getting that Chaos Blade.
Any suggestions for optimum hex/sorcer stat builds? I'm SL 107.

>>183362926
MLGS is fine. It caps early, but doesn't really stop being good just because of that.
DLC2 actually provides some nice stuff for dark builds.

>>183362926
MLGS is still decent. Though a lot of stuff in TRC resists magic. There's the Aquamarine Dagger and Friede's Scythe, but that's more for INT/DEX hybrids.

Hexes got some love, but a "hex build" is still just a sub-optimal pyro build. Stuff like Great Soul Dregs is pretty good on pure INT though.

>>183362329
Black Knight weapons in all the games have high physical ARs. Shit movesets for PvP though.

Can anyone help me with Lost Sinner on NG+ (or just drop her weapon for me)? I'm on PC, Soul Memory at 864k

>>183363253
>>183363627
Neat. My first run of the game I went full wizard, thinking magic was going to be fun after Bloodborne did space wizards so well, but by the end it just devolved into me sticking CMW onto my rapier and occasionally using Soul Spear. Dart/Flashsword were pretty neat, at least. I've heard mention of the Aquamarine Dagger, what's it like?

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I know Ds1 is dead and old, but if it weren't, what would the meta builds be like?

>>183364328
Backstabs

>>183364328
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=805438917

>>183364474
>>183364741
thanks

>>183364029
>two of those fuck off abomination monsters
>flexile sentry
>bomb dudes

I can't even get to the Lost Sinner half the time, these dudes fuck me up in one or two hits and my Sorceries aren't doing shit.

Hey /dsg/ I'm coming back to this game after good 6 months.
Is there anywhere where I can know what was changed and stuff?
I got Flamberge as drop early and decided to Raw it, but apparently Raw +2 Flam does less damage than uninfused? Was Raw/Flam nerfed in general? Did I wasted my points to increase Dex?
Should I just stick with my Heavy Mace? I only have 13str and 14dex.

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>>183361206

>>183366825

The best raw weapons at low level are:

2-Handed Dragonslayer's Axe
Red Hilted Halberd
Broadsword/Longsword
Warpick/Mace
Dagger

It's possible I've missed a few, but basically you don't want to upgrade your STR/DEX beyond 14/14 at the most if you want to min/max at low level for the sake of survivability and damage

>>183368041
Is RHH good? Never really got into Halberds in DS3 even though they were my favorite in 2. Same with spears

I do guess using Mace is still best option, since it's light has decent damage, has hyper armor to fuck up fellow small weapons and 3rd r1 has 50/50 chance to roll catch.

>>183368260

It combines range and counter damage with a weapon art that lets you poise through enemy attacks

If it had better tracking it would be overpowered, it's insanely useful at low level, in PvP especially due to other twinks stacking slash resist armour and the idea behind low level PvP being to just spam R1, leaving you with ample opportunities to get that savage counter damage. Leo ring is easy to get since it's before you'd even have to deal with pontiff, who's frankly a cakewalk with +4 raw weapons

Don't use it for dealing with ganks though, it's pretty much strictly a 1v1 tool. The Broadsword/Longsword is better for multiple opponents so long as you know how to turn and burn and avoid panic rolling

do you guys pve with a shield?
I find it ridiculously useful
is it just a crutch?

>>183368928
Will it give you an idea if I told you that I've never used a shield in any game in the series?

Honestly, rolling is all you need. Though, shields may make some fights easier if you're not good.

>>183358118
Wow so much fun, damn realy nice fucking design. This is what contrarians realy believe

>>183368928
Depends on the character.
I use shields for blocking on my knight type characters, some "lighter" themed characters get a smaller parry shield or no shield at all. Some characters are just for using a two-hander and no shied, depends on the weapon / theme I'm going with for that playthrough.

I have Bloodborne so I don't to pretend to play BB when I'm playing Souls.

>>183368928
I kind've stopped using shields outside of rare occasions where I need them for a VERY SPECIFIC part before taking them right off again, don't even bother with grass-crest if I can help it. It's a shame, but just how the game evolved from DeS and pre-DLC DaS1 being more simple and less action oriented telegraphed attacked while DaS1 DLC and onword pushed a more active playstyle that punishes turtle shielding. Maybe it made the games better though and I live in the past, going through DaS2 onward is a different form of fun.

Still, you can use greatshields if you like to turtle. Many of the regular shields are kinda useless fluff now on other hand, wonder if anyone uses them at all.

>>183368928
Shields are an integral part of the game, people who rub it into your face that they don't use it are shitters who compensate for something. I even killed Fume Knight by blocking, which everyone claims is impossible.

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Is there any way of getting proofs of concord without farming like a madman?

>>183369669
What's really impossible is killing any DLC boss with magic.
After three years, my ass still hurts.

>>183369867
Binocular man

Hmm. I can see the Niche for it, I guess it can poise through smaller class weapons ,and for bigger ones it has it's WA.

Though how much poise do you need to win trades with straight swords? I do know while using Mace I only need 28 which isn't that hard to get.

>>183370036
What difference does it make? Fume Knight, Sir Alonne, Blue Smelter, Aava, Burnt Ivory King and twin tigers are all pretty much immune to magic. Soul Spear is equivalent to a poke with an unupgraded dagger.

>>183370178
Nah, they are just not weak to magic, if your doing a pure caster which means 60/60 int/faith then that means you have access to all the elements and can work off of that, from there just take whatever the boss is least resistant to and go to town.
It will play out like a slightly longer small weapon run, you chip away at the boss at melee range until he falls over with single casts between combos. It's only hard or takes ages if you try to play the midgame nukewar, just bring your 80 dark orbs/soul arrows/lighting spears and the win won't even take too much longer when compared to something like a longsword.

>>183369797
Rumours say that by wearing the Darkmoon covenant badge you might one day get summoned as a Blade of the Darkmoon into another player's world and by defeating an invader there will get you the proof.

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>Decide to give DS a break
>Play BDO
>Creating character Valk FeliciatheStrong

After I dye this armor it'll be like I never left ;~;

>magic runs on FP rather than casts
>attunement slots are still a thing
>swinging a weapon requires stamina which regens fast and on its own
>spells need FP which doesn't regen or regens really slowly at the cost of one or two hands
>weapons and shields can be switched in the middle of battle to accommodate the warrior's needs
>spells can only be switched at a bonfire
Uh, From?

>>183370687
But who's to say if that's not a creation of the concord-deprived blue's imagination *laughter*

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>>183370395
>Nah, they are just not weak to magic
Stopped reading

>>183370949
Do what you want, I'm not your dad. Point stands, every boss takes normal damage from at least one element, you figure out that element then load up on high cast amount low attunement cost spells and just plink them do death with 300-500 damage hits.
If you did a "pure caster" build where you went to 30/30 and only used Dark then thats on you for being a retard

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Please help with faith build. I don't want to PvP much, mostly looking to PvE but I don't want to be shit at PvP if I get invaded.

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>>183371145
I have no idea why after saving it, I went over equip load?
Also would Dark Blade be better than Lightning blade since most people level up end and have higher base lightning defense? I never get bluemoon summons so can't get DMB

>>183370765
Don't forget
>Takes up Estus capacity, which is already cut during PVP
>Can't attune multiple copies to lower FP cost
>Cast times and tracking are basically the same as previous games, despite the faster combat
>Shooting any moderately powerful spell is like swinging a Great Hammer
>Needs two rings for power and another for cast speed

>>183370765
A lagging reaction to all the cunts who bitched and moaned to high heaven that magic was OP in Dark Souls.

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>>183371145
>>183371251

Try this on for size if you want to be able to coast through PvE and PvP

-ATT from 22 to 18. 18 is more than enough for the miracles you chose and unless you can hit 24 you shouldn't level beyond 18 ideally

-END to 26, the extra 4 levels you put into it were only giving you 10 more points of stamina. Ratio that out and you'll realise how little that is

-STR to 27. 26 is perfectly fine but the point is, most of your weapons are ones you will use 2-Handed. And STR gets buffed by 1/3 when 2-Handing weapons. In other words, when 2-Handing with 26/27 STR, you end up with the equivalent of 40, one of the softcaps for that stat

-DEX to 18. Frankly you don't really need to do this but I like being able to use the LKS because of its double poke R2 and higher counter damage. Feel free to put it back down to 16 and put the stats elsewhere

-Saint's Talisman instead of Yorshka's. You'll be using Saint's for the most part anyway while you wait to get DMB, so might as well not waste the slab on both

I will also be posting a pure faith build after this which also uses the knight starting class

>>183371251
I'd personally try to switch some points to get 30 attunement, drop the lightning blade (60fth and lightning infusion do decent damage already), and attune another miracle or two.

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>>183370694
D-Dan?

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>>183371284

For cast speed I tend to prefer keeping a Saint-tree bellvine handy, it weighs very little and leaves the ring slot handy

>>183372036

The pure faith build I mentioned:

Much more ATT for casting spells, tons of health, fashionable armour (Most important), a melee weapon to fall back on that, being a SS, is ridiculously versatile and has the benefit of a damage boost WA

>>183372215
Bellvine is a lifesaver on clerics, but my autism makes me carry that candlestick and wear the dumb headpiece on sorcery builds.

>>183372379

Aaaah, see strong as that makes your spells, ideally you want a melee weapon on hand like, say, Heysel's Pick to offset the need for every bit of damage you can get

I always value extra speed over extra damage just due to the importance of not giving your enemy the reaction time needed to dodge. Scholar's Candlestick is all well and good but if you miss your spell that extra damage means nothing

On my own sorcerer build, which I've been adjusting and refining since the release of the game, I tend to run a Heysel Pick and Court Sorc staff on my right hand, with a blessed parry tool/dragonhead shield/sacred bloom shield and a saint tree on my left, depending on the situation at hand. Also handy to keep a crystal dagger handy as well as a crystal longsword. Remember, split damage sucks but crits ignore the majority of defence and SSs aren't there for massive damage, they're used for slicing away smaller but substantial bits of health, and their movesets are incredibly useful for that

Then for rings I tend to run P-Chain, FaP +3, Bellowing Dragoncrest and either Young Dragon, Chloranthy +3, Sun Princess, Leo or Hornet depending on the situation

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>>183372036
What should I be doing with the slots if I have 24ATT?
For end I do guess, I never really felt need for more stamina after 30 END with Favor +3
I'm still not sure on choice of weapons, but LKGS, SSS and LKSS are on list. Probably will swap SSS and LKSS depending on mood.

I'd most primarily be buffing Straight Sword and go for quick burst of damages, and LKGS is mostly if I run out of FP / Secondary weapon instead of main so I intend to keep LKGS as Blessed.

I haven't played in long time, but isn't Saint's Talisman HA weak? Wouldn't Canvas be better if I'm supposed to tank 1-2 hits while casting.

>>183372949
Adding to this, honestly I'm not that great player. Most of the time I'd either be out hyper armoring someone or playing the spacing game. I liked using Scythes due to latter.
Also I do like the armored cleric mk2 alot. I think, I'll most likely end up using that, though having single ss as choice of weapon could get boring.

Anybody on PC wants to help me run a couple of tests?

>>183372949

Two things I tend to do are:

DMB, Lightning/Dark Blade, Med Heal/Bountiful Light/Heal Aid, Lightning Arrow

Or Weapon Buff, Med Heal, Extra Heal (Heal Aid, Bountiful Light) and Lightning arrow

The first one gives you more versatility with your weapons, good for solo play as it allows you to switch the buff the suit the enemy, lightning arrow being used more for finishing things off, starting fights at a range and rollcatching enemy invaders

The second one I find is good for co-op against invaders, giving you a weapon buff, a quick heal, a stronger slower heal that heals multiple allies, and a ranged roll catch

should i buy Ringed City at this very moment

>>183373108

The Armoured Cleric is personally my favourite way of running a faith build, though admittedly that may be because I've mainly stuck to casting throughout the series

If I recall correctly, you would have access to the Saint Bident. You'd likely have to make it blessed or lightning to use it reasonably effectively but it is an option. Unfortunately you are limited in your melee options but you gain a lot more variety in your miracles due to the extra slots

And to answer your earlier question, I tend to use Saint's Talisman more for damage than poisetanking, for which I'd use one with superior hyperarmour. What I do find it useful for is baiting out attacks with. You start casting a hyperarmour heal, roll out of it when the enemy comes for you and take advantage of the close range. They might think they have you on the ropes only for you to hit a LKGS WA R2 and launch them

>>183373498
no

>>183373498
Nope.
Plenty of people are wating for it to go on sale to get it. The player count will increase 200% by mid december, mark my words.

af course, talking about steam version

>>183373637
>>183373650
Ok

>>183372717
It's not really an issue anymore since I have a Sage+2, using the stick is like having another Young Dragon Ring. I'll happily take the extra damage for Old Moonlight combos.

>>183373617
It does looks like I can carry a Blessed Saint Bident with second build. Thank you for this anon!

Friede is one of my least favorite fights in the series. She is just a bunch of cheap moves and 'le ebin attacs'. Not to mention the second phase healing and the retarded cluster fuck that is the third phase. Even Midir is more enjoyable because at least he doesn't have cheap shit like instagrabs, teleporting behind you, and fucking healing.

>go right behind someone as he r1 spams with ss
>the tip of my dick grazing his soft asscheeks
>herewego.png
>rev up that good ol' backstabbu
>the forward momentum from r1 spamming sends him off backstab range
this is beyond retarded

How do I make Dark Souls 2 fun? Other than not playing it.

>>183374371
From what I've seen of most people who hate the game, the key is to not be complete shit at it.

>>183374346
I don't even try for backstabs in PVP anymore unless they're either healing or using something incredibly slow.
You can line it up perfectly, but if there's even the slightest bit of lag or forward momentum, you're the one stuck in an animation while they're free to move around.

>>183374450
The only other Souls game I've played apart from 2 is 1, which I beat, but I'm so disinterested in 2 whenever I play it that I don't care if I'm getting hit or not.

I just want a build that makes me a bit more interested in the game. Every time I play 2 with a melee build I nearly fall asleep.

>>183374606
If you don't like the combat, you don't like the combat. Go play something twitch-based like DS3.

>>183374606
Well sorcery builds are hell if you don't know what you're doing.
Not much advice can be given other than maybe the game's just not for you, don't force yourself to play it.

How do I start NG+ with a bran new character? It's pointless to bully all the bosses with a fully developed character.

>>183374606
my friend and I bought it few months ago but stopped after lost sinner because it was so boring

>>183374879
>Go to Rosaria and put all your points into luck
>Sell everything in your inventory
>Lose your souls
>Start NG+

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Divine or raw? I need to nail Quelaag!

>>183374859
But I want to see if it gets any better. I enjoyed 1 a ton, so I'm a bit confused with how little I enjoy 2.

From a glance they play similarly, but there's something about 2's gameplay that makes me completely uninterested. I'd rather just play 1 again (which I'm doing).

>>183375041
I can't remember what I used before hand but on my most recent playthrough I beat her pretty easily with a Divine +10 Zweihander, which you may or may not be able to get a hold of.

I don't think it being Divine really did much, though.

>>183375041
how much faith? magic damage is good against her, but not if you can't back it up

>>183375041
Raw is terrible in 1, go Divine if you have a decent amount of Faith.

>>183374980
That's actually really smart and obvious at the same time. Thank!

>>183372215
To anon who made this build.
I have a question, what spells would be useful against bosses? Like, against Midir or Gael and like would Sunlight Spear be a good idea to hit him with at blank range with opening, or should I just hit them with buffed SS 2 times then roll?

>>183375335
>Raw is terrible in 1
only because it goes to +5 (effective +10) while normal goes to +15. If you don't have the very large ember or many levels in damage stats, it's pretty gud

>>183375145
2 was made by a different director with different priorities. The story is ambiguous until halfway through, the combat is slow as molasses, and the stages are a series of independent video-gamey levels instead of an interconnected world.

If you liked DS1's gameplay, the closest one to it is Demon's Souls. If you liked the story, skip right on to Dark Souls 3. If you liked the level design, play Bloodborne.

>>183375263
>>183375312
>>183375335
Faith is terrible. 8.
I have a longsword +5. It hits nothing.
I have a zweihander, big club (not enough str).
I am pyro. Should I pyro/magic spell her?

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>Host doesn't skip cutscenes

>>183375582
She's really not that hard to beat, dude. Just make sure you're fully aware of where she's shot her lava and you'll be fine.

>>183375571
I'm going to buy a PS4 soon, so I'll probably get 3 and BB as well. I have no other Souls games and no PS3, either, so that's why I'm so insistent on giving 2 a proper runthrough.

I can't even force myself through DaS2 like I did with DMC2 because of how switched on you need to be for Souls games.

>>183375582
>pyro/magic spell
You're not leveling intelligence for pyromancies are you? Because the scaling lies, it's flat. And pyros won't do shit to her. If you have a lot of trouble, go back to andre to upgrade. The exit to blighttown is not behind her. Also, Quelaag is tanky but has huge tells to her attacks, pay a bit of attention and you can kill her with just fists without being hit

>>183372148
Wasn't Felicia actually really ugly?

>>183376057
>>183370694
Does this look ugly to you?

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>>183376057
eyesore dyke
>>183376493
This does

>>183375918
>DX9
>DS2
Don't bother, if you really want to play 2 then play scholar, if your not willing to dump that money and don't enjoy it at its base then vanilla 2 is a really dumb idea.

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>>183376057
I've never looked under her helmet. I just know the NPC's retarded AI and the Dan Kim comics.

>>183376595
I'll stop trying to beat it, then.

Speaking of which, is the DaS1 DLC worth getting?

>>183375425

Anon who made the build here

Lightning arrow works best against Midir, as does Lightning Stake if you can get a shot at the head, along with the SS to ensure you don't run out of FP

Against Gael, mix Arrows with use of the Sunlight Straight Sword, and use a heavy nuke like Sunlight Spear when he gives you the breathing room, such as when he's charging an attack. It's all about finding openings with him

Against midir, you often have time for a Med Heal. Against Gael, I'd sooner use Heal Aid

This is of course all made easier with summons but it's still simple enough solo

>beat some katanerd's ass with a gs
>they're low on hp
>they switch to a hyperarmor weapon
I really wonder what their thought process was

>>183377498
Wouldn't Sunlight Spear be better? Isn't it an upgraded version of Lightning Stake that also can do ranged. Though still bbest used in at melee?

Also why heal aid? I never really used it, but I always thought it was just a meme spell. I've seen alot of non faith people use it too.

>>183376797
It's good, makes the second half of the game more bearable to play as well

>>183377826
But I prefered the second half to the first

>>183377669

Sunlight Spear is in no way, shape or form an upgrade, they do pretty much the same amount of damage. It also costs more FP, and you should be using the Lightning Arrow at range anyway, the damage to FP ratio is too good to pass up against a tank like Midir

Heal Aid is the fastest heal in the game and heal for a perfectly fair amount for the FP cost. When you're having to save on Estus it's a godsend because in PvP it's very difficult to prevent the cast and in PvE it's got the benefits of putting any FP you're not using (Such as, if the enemy is resistant to lightning or too fast to hit) into extra health, helping you overcome the obstacle with the mother of all attrition based builds

>>183377923
you prefer totg and izalith better than sen's and anor londo or the burg?

>>183378065
Tomb of the Giants is a pretty neat area.
And I think that as much as people shit on the latter half of DS1, even the Lord Soul areas are generally speaking the same or even better than DS2's levels.

What kind of build would I be looking at for the Demon Fists?

>>183378065
Anor Londo is pretty, but I had this weird bug happen to me where I'd respawn at the first bonfire no matter what even if I didn't rest there before dying. It made the entire thing unbearable.

At least TotG is piss-easy if you have a Divine weapon, and Demon Ruins/Izalith are both fucking beautiful. If we're talking pure enjoyment, I prefered the 1's second half to its first half. The boss fights were also much more enjoyable.

Obviously it's a personal thing, though.

>>183378334
I had that same shit happen in Anor Londo, and I kept getting pissed too.

>>183378238
Sure it is, but it doesn't hold a candle to Sen's
>>183378334
It's not a bug. You tarnished the image of the princess and Gwyndolin wants you out now. The cutscene should've made it clear
>>183378334
>Demon Ruins/Izalith are both fucking beautiful
You're kidding, right? Sure, the architecture and artistic direction is great, but the individual levels are trash with just copypasted enemies everywhere, with eyesore lava and mostly linear structure

>>183369669
>people who rub it into your face that they don't use it are shitters who compensate for something
the exact opposite, kek

>>183378602
>You tarnished the image of the princess and Gwyndolin wants you out now
That's stupid fucking level design, then.

I don't care if it's intentional, the devs shouldn't do something like that. It leaves a shitstain on an otherwise great game.

>You're kidding, right?
It's pretty great aside from the copy-pasted enemies, which I do think is pretty stupid.

How is it any less linear than other levels, though? I mean, in most areas you're following a specific path when it comes to getting to a boss.

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>>183336830
Northern or elite, but any chain leggings look better

Q: is flashsword pure magic dmg? I swear I get the dark dmg effect or even both dark and magic on the opponent

someone invade enb with powerstanced porcine shields

>>183379285
only shields you can powerstance are o&r

Why does /dsg/ hate the FaP Ring?

In general should I be infusing my weapons to blood or not? I tend to fight some bosses with Bleed other than normal way. I'd like to use Morning Star a bit, but should I infuse it with Bleed or just use Carthus Rouge?

>>183378054
So what even is the point of Sunlight Spear other than you can fire it off ranged?

Huh, never knew. Thought it was always just a meme spell since it looks like you only heal for 50 health. Maybe at high faith it'd be actually decent.

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>>183360108
>sorcery/hexing build
>Staff of Wisdom
Mate, Sunset is the boss here.

hexfag here, don't know what i'm doing aside from guides

just got my dark sunset staff and my dark crypt blacksword, not sure what gear/hexes i should have. i'm rolling with affinity + dark orb + soul spear + homing soulmass

>>183379763
Why does anon make stupid and generalized questions?

>>183380440
also the DCB is doing shit damage so far, I've got 41 INT and 27 FTH, 20 STR. working on leveling endurance. what am i doing wrong?

Any good options for a glass cannon build early on?

I'll go DEX/FTH Lothric Knight GS + Lightning Blade later on, but don't want to mule. Will be doing a duo playthrough with a friend who'll do Sorc glass cannon.

Just not sure what to use weapon-wise early on not SSTB, single strong hits

>>183382108

How early are we talking? Give us a level range to work with

With the amount of hits needed to properly damage Qualaag I am in a real pickle.
I have the opportunity to farm large or green shards and get my longsword upgraded. I don't have the other embers yet.

>>183382352
Just until I get LKGS (greirat Irithyll pillage). Was considering just going Great Club because of it's early availability and high damage.

>>183381659
please disregard i suck cocks and don't know what i'm doing, this sword is amazing

still would appreciate suggestions on gear/hexes, i'm fatrolling unless I'm naked and can't remember what stat helps with that

>>183382434

Just use Vordt's then, similar damage and it has a frost proc

>>183381659
get 20/10/30/30 and dark infuse and buff it. Once you're decked out on the rest, you can get 40 str for 1handing, but iirc it's better to 2hand. Dark orb should be enough to get you through most areas alone
>>183382546
you were 1handing, weren't you

>>183382641
Nah, I was just getting my shit fucked by those headless guys with the two knives.

There's no ridiculously OP hexes I can use? I don't plan on doing PvP so I want some ridiculous hexes.

>>183352872
Really cool build anon, but I'd trade FaP for Havels, and get BOISE up to 45 for shenanigans.

>>183380440
Dark Mastadon Halberd.
DO IT.
It has Spin 2 Win, and if you hit someone with R1 2 times at sweet spot, it does 1700+ damage when buffed with Dark Weapon.

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>>183383020
Literally dark orb. It deals a fuckton of damage with a dark sunset staff and has stupid amounts of casts. If by OP you mean stupid amounts of burst, try the resonant soul spells, with climax as a finisher. It costs all your souls, scales with up to 5000 souls and can easily oneshot peeps, but it's murder on your sm. If you don't care about coop/pvp (which you shouldn't since the game is fucking dead) it's ideal.
>>183383121
>dark halberd
>anything other than roaring
bruh

what is the best slutgear that isnt desert pyromancer?

>>183382546
Crown of the Iron King is by far the best headgear for any caster
Grab some Vit and some armor with actual poise, wont save you from bosses but will stop hollow thieves from staggering you with just their knives
Climax/Soul Geyser are the highest damaging spells in the game, Climax takes all of your current souls with it's damage scaling from almost nothing->absurd tiers with 0-5000 souls, it will steal all your souls above 5k but won't deal any more damage

Did they nerfed Dark Hand recently? I'm unable to hit anything at all with it's WA now.
I used to use the WA to trade and life suck and heal myself, but I've now missed against Straight Sword R1 Spammers, Murakumo and Great Club. Even though I'm able to hyper armor through them the life drain doesn't connect. What?

Greirat somehow died in my game?
I sent him to Irithyll to pillage. I made sure that Onion Bro was still there. I didn't talk to OnionBro, went on and killed Sully.
Then made my way back to onion bro, and Greirat body wasn't there.
Talked with onion bro. Then warped to firelink, Greirat wasn't there. I then went to where he should be dead, and he was dead.
What happened?

>Taking a guy and his phantom friend through Grand Archives
>They go explore while I clear the place, god bless BKS and Valorheart

>Get an invader, nowhere to be seen so I use my obscuring ring
>Get up to the terrible triplets, lure out Lionheart, stomp him, out of estus now
>Wait around for a bit, but the othet two have gotten lost, so I see about killing the other two
>Start to lure them out, all of a sudden mr invader appears with a sunlight spear, because that's totally going to hit outside of a trade
>Avoid it, go back inside, invader eventually follows, other phantoms are nowhere to be seen

>Fight commences, I abuse him with the Valorheart, he tries and fails to parrybait me, 3 or so of his estus later he's managed to get me down to maybe a quarter of my health, starts throwing bombs and urns while I dodge and clap
>Invader fails to notice that the other two have caught up
>Invader gets swarmed next to the ladder

>Proceed to clear the rest of the level without estus and beat the boss


Post moments you're reasonably happy about

Halberd > Scythe
So why do DaS2 Halberds except Syan's use the shitty Scythe moveset?

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Human. Do not produce memes.
Memes, and all those who bear it, are unwelcome in this place.

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>>183385747
I still have a grudge against this asshole, he got mad at me for bringing Torch Hollow near him.

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>>183385994
>clear say no light allowed
>produces light despite that
>he's the asshole

>>183387051
Okay, yes, it was slightly my fault. I had to cough up a huge amount of souls for Cromwell to calm him down, and I've killed Torch Hollow there ever since.

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>>183376057

>>183362329
LAUNCH

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>record a cool moment in game
>this is what I get
fuck me

>>183388482
I thought the webm was taking too long to load. Poor guy

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Playing SotFS. I just discovered the Crypt Blacksword. Although its range isn't the best for a UGS, after I infused it with Dark it hits like a motherfucker. What a mean slab of death.

>>183378919
Demon Ruins/Izalith are blatantly unfinished bullshit. Great artistic direction, absolute garbage in terms of execution, and the ENTIRE THING being filled with awful lighting eyerape lava just makes it all so much worse.

Lost Izalith and Demon Ruins are the biggest let down in the entire game.

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>>183387959
Who wore it better?

Londor is the Ringed City, right?

>>183388993
I think it was going to be but the concept was axed.

Shame, really.

>go back to playing DaS
>mfw these controls
>mfw this movement
Feels like shit man. Can't believe I played this for so many hours.

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>>183388705
>The game has to be out tomorrow!
>But Hidetaka-san, our artists still haven't completed the enemy models for Lost Izalith!
>Release it as it is!

>>183388327
BKGS spacelaunch is great. Trading into motherfuckers with BOISE and sending them flying is so satisfying.

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>13 hours old thread
>250 replies
so this is why /dsg/ is comfy again

>>183388327
>>183389202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BHNbLl1_GY&t=67

>>183389198
>The overlord wants the Lost Izalith models right now
>Oh shit we spent our entire budget modelling Gwynevere's rack
>I KNOW!
>Let's just put like 12 Taurus and Capra Demons in there
>And then
>And then
>Dragon Asses, as far as the eye can see
>What about a boss
>Well we have a model for it, but combat AI is hard, just make it a platforming puzzle instead
>...
>Fucking
>Nailed It

need a new controller for PC

what yall use?

>>183389408
Why did they have to kill the R1 > Spacelaunch combo

Why why why

>>183388993
Perhaps. We have the sword of avowal everywhere, proto-darkwraiths, pilgrims on the earlier stages, a bunch of dark. But no obvious sable church, no Velka references other than the monument, nothing that is reminiscent of pale shades, they worship the gods rather than follow Kaathe
>>183388816
At least she's just ugly, not manish
>>183388696
It's nice

>>183389129
In what way was it axed?

>>183389198
The concept of fighting the top half of a dragon in a ravine, and its bottom half dozens of hours later in an underground cave is brilliant. It's ruined by replicating the lower half a hundred times. Or was it a custom in Lordran to cut dragons in half and throw the asses into a bottomless pit?

>>183389473
Wired 360 if you have giant man hands. Dualshock 3/4 if you have tiny babby hands.

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>dingy set didn't make it into DaS3
The choice of what comes back and what doesn't seems so spotty.

>>183388696
use dark weapon (the hex) on it

>>183389490
They did?

that's gay as fuck
at least the R2 backswing into golfswing is still a true combo
>>183389473
i use a dualshock 4 with ds4windows, it's really nice if you bind the touchpad to start/select since the share/options buttons are small and out of place

>>183389564
You can see that they clearly intended for it to be Londor because of the Sword of Avowal symbol and all the foreshadowing regarding the third Sable sister, but then something happened and they cut all mention of Londor in favour of the Ringed City being Pygmyland

>>183389818
Yeah, the R1 > Backswing > Spacelaunch isn't true anymore, but the Backswing > Spacelaunch on it's own is still true as far as I know.

Unfortunately, that will only one shot novig scrubs and sorcerers.

>>183343992
>i have been using candlestick on left hand and two handing staff...
im literally retarded...

>>183389408
god I miss that trident. with the mound makers in DS3 it'd be perfect to mess around with.

>>183390205
>they cut all mention of Londor in favour of the Ringed City being Pygmyland
Why can't it be both?

>>183390715
Because it's not? Unless you have some batshit insane headcanon like Shira is the third Sable Sister or some other bullshit.

It's literally not. Everyone was expecting it to be because all the pre-release stuff heavily implied that it was, but then they baited everyone out by never mentioning Londor and making no in-game implication that the Ringed City is Londor.

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>we never got those dual swords
My Fallen Knight cos will never be complete.

>>183391401
in the pre-release screenshots of the game it looked like equipment you had in secondary slots would appear on your back

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>>183391401
>we never got multiple scabbards
this series sucks

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>>183378303
Demon's fists are funny in that they're really a strength weapon with innate fire damage and mediocre scaling.
They're more of a compliment to a str/pyro build, and they'd be right at home paired with the Demon's greataxe.

Here's an ideal build:
Pyromancer starting class:
40/35/35 for a balanced build. (str/int/fth)
489 AR: 297phys + 192fire
For comparison a chaos caestus does
444 AR: 150phys + 293fire
Heavy Caestus:
316AR

The caestus deal more fire damage but the Demon's fists deal more physical.
So if you're playing a pyro, these will help you against fire resistant enemies.

Here's a build I just threw together.
(sorry I'm a filthy phone poster)
Armor (23 poise):
Sellsword helm
Vilhelm armor
Conjurator manchettes
Faraam boots

Weps:
Pyro Flame
Demon's fists
Demon's GA

Spells:
Black Flame
Black Serpent

Rings:
P. Chain
Havels+3 (only necessary if you want poise)
Deep ring (lol only 12att, you're a strpyro)
Witch ring (optional: swap for fap/chloranthy)

Hope this helps!

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What should I put my points in now? I'm thinking VIT or STR. What is the minimum recommended strength for a dex build?

Also I'm not sure about the rings. Currently have:
>ring of favour +3
>havel + 3
>wolf + 3
> flynns ring

>>183391401
>>183391638
The optimist in me wants to believe they cut out stuff and reuse assets to save new stuff for whatever new IP they're working on. But this is From so I'm sure I'll be disappointed.

There's a sword which debuffs when you hit?

>>183385170
you HAVE to talk to onion bro in irithyll, till he falls asleep.and never get into iri dungeons

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post enemy attacks that you have not, and will not, ever be able to doge.

>nito's bone from below

I usually don't even see him plunge his sword arm into the ground. but even when I do i have no idea when to roll

>>183392419
pls respond

>>183394159
Heide knights' derpy drunk swings.
Gets me all fucking time.
>that backswing
>that nutty lunge

Those boyos were bred to fuck with your hollow brain.

I always use FUGS on ds2 and ds3 but i have a problem against poke weapons and backstab fishers, i need help

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He's live right now and doing Scholar

>>183392419
Do you even get poise for the wa? I'd say ditch the flynn's and wolf and use chloranthy+3 and the pontiff eye which gives damage. Maybe even replace the target shield with OWCS while you don't plan to parry or don't want to mindfuck your opponent into thinking you'll parry. essentially, whenever you're 2handing the lmao2blade

>>183395729
>backstab fishers
l2r1. 60% of the time, works every time

>>183395729
>>183395729
>ds2
block their poke while 2 handed, roll behind them and backstab while they are still recovering from the bounce

Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 3

post

>>183396945
That's cool.
Dark Souls 1 = Dark Souls 2 = Dark Souls 3 = Demon's Souls
I just really like the series.

>>183397538
wrong

>>183396945
Dark souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 > Demons souls > Dark souls 2

how i do samurai fashion in dark souls 2?

>>183395307
they're hungover and mad as hell

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>>183398504
Post fashion and r8

>R8 me lads

>>183398504
Did mean to respond >>183398821

>>183398504
Alonne's

>>183398821
Nice clusterfuck but the brass greaves don't go with fucking anything

>>183399246
Thats the legs of favor btw

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>>183397630
What the fuck did you just say about my opinion you little bitch? I'll have you know I've got more than 300 confirmed souls and I graduated top of my class in the dark souls opinion school. I'm trained in hollow weenie sword spam warfare and I can locate you just by the sound of your estus sip crossing your dumb crusty hollowed lips anywhere in lordran, Lothric, boletaria, or drangleic. You think your opinion is better than mine? Fuck you and your fire keeper, your opinion is just a more personally subject underapprecation to the absolute enjoyment I'm construing from my souls-game experience.
So you'd better watch your very stabable back, you torch wielding weenie, because I'll find you and I'll make you realize that all of the games are fun when you take the effort to appreciate and love them despite their shortcomings.
Pfft. Nothing personal, elite knight.

Here's a mobile phone wallpaper.

>>183398821
How about you take a screenshot somewhere that doesn't hide the fact that none of those colors match?

>>183398775
>Tfw can't get drunk anymore because dragonrider used to bring home the booze.
>tfw addicted to alcohol and hung over.
>tfw you find the hollow who took you from your precious estus-whiskey.
(I have no face for this)
Now I understand.

>>183398821
Dude nice.
I dig the crazy mixup.
Especially the brass leggings + eastern armor.

What separates a knight and an elite knight?

>>183400732
armor

Good DaS1 quality weps?

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>>183398821
Colours are kind of mismatched but still not bad

>>183400732
Elite knights are rollier.
Knights are tankier.

Why? It's never explained.

>>183400732
rank

>>183401025
>>183401023
>>183400813
So why did the "Elite" Knight die to a couple of bushes and moldy guardians while the Knight died fighting the Hydra?

What's it like going through the game as a pure sorcerer? Like with a small melee as emergency backup.

I've only tried melee only with some pyro as support/ranged chip builds.

>>183402201
Because the elite knights didn't have any poise and got stunlocked by thorny hugbushes.

The knights who had "the necessary vitality" poised through the scrubshrubs and made it all the way to the bottom of a shitty tree to find a dumb snake monster that just likes the hang out at the beach and picked a fight.

Elite Knights are cool with their blue tabard, but that's literally all.

That said I played my entire first DS1 playthrough with the elite knight armor, longsword and shield. It was a good time, for being unpatched...

>>183402413
Spamming Soul Arrows and running past enemies in High Wall until you get Orbeck and the s,crolls in Farron Keep, after which you do nothing but use Great Heavy Soul Arrow or Pestilent Mercury for every other boss in the game.

>>183402792
What about being a battlemage with magic weapon and soul sword attacks?

>>183402413
I presume you mean DS3:
In short it's fun but challenging.
Crystal Sage is the first real "hurdle" but after that you'll get the hang of it.
By the time you get to Aldrich you may need a summon if you haven't gotten good enough.
First you'll need to get Str/Dex up to min reqs for a longsword (11/10?) but you can do with just a dagger if you feel bad2thebone.
Pump INT, ATT, and END.
Glass cannon mode will reward you but you'll need to avoid crowds, which can make the game feel sort of tedious when you simply engage everything at range, but a pure sorcerer is definitely viable.

>>183403026
That can also work but you have to wait until 60 INT for the magic weapon buffs to be useful, Soul Greatsword and Flashsword can be very fun though.

>>183402601
So who made it the furthest? Pyromancer made it to the bottom of Blighttown and died looking for Quelaana
Bandit got to the Valley of Drakes through Darkroot
Hunter died like a bitch
Thief got corned in lower Undead Burg
Knight died fighting Hydra
Warrior died fighting Gaping
Sorcerer got tricked, stabbed and shoved in a barrel
Cleric died to skellies

>>183403026
Now that's a fun time.
Battle mage is a much more interesting build.

It's trickier, but loads of fun.
You'll be generally more reliant on your skill and swordplay but you can do it.
Ideally you want a sword, staff, and parry shield.

Or you can kill Dancer, then Ocieros early for MLGS, cap Str at 16 and then pump INT, VIG, END, and get ATT to 14/18.

>>183403149
Yeah, you can technically have 3 hugely different attack movesets if wielding a buffed weapon, and a staff to use SGreatsword and Flasword with.

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>>183403253
Stat-wise is Knight still the best pick for Battlemagin'?

>>183402201
>fighting Hydra
not just
>playing in water like baby
>hear noises
>fucking hydrastomp

meanwhile Eknight
>alergies

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>dark souls 2 physics

>>183403813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0SwlMohRng

>>183403252
The Cleric died to fall damage after Patches """slipped""" on the lever. Also, the Wanderer died to toxic darts and Deprived probably got poisoned and crawled in the Great Hollow. Pyrodude probably got the furthest, assuming the Master Key is not canon

>>183403813
Why are you fully hollowed? You're doing some kind of Dark Pyro Flame build?

>>183404825
I ran out of human effigies

>>183403028
>Crystal Sage is the first real "hurdle" but after that you'll get the hang of it.
By Crystal Sage you should already have Storyteller Staff which absolutely rapes everything not poison immune.

>>183404825
Oh my god, Karen, you can't ask people why they're fully hollowed

>>183405263
>By Crystal Sage you should already have farmed the shit out of a shitty zone for about 30min to 4 hours for a staff to trivialize the game

>>183405942
desu cheesing the entirety of non-boss pve with spores, mercury, hidden body and spook/slumbering is far funner than anything pew pew magic can do

>>183404217
Is the Cleric's armor found on a female body?

>>183406435
being a mage that does that is ok
now, being a fuking melee knight, bandit with a fucking sporing staff is lame

a crazy deprived only in loncloths and giant hat could be

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How the fuck does this happen?

>>183407105
Probably his second time entering the crypt, after Sinh killed the lancers the first time.

>>183406586
Never noticed, why?

>>183400962
cute

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>on my SL802 dicking around with spells
>notice 3 embers at Pontiff

tempted to invade, but I'm guessing it'll be a bunch of Havel ganks casting every spell under the sun.

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>like elite knight for its aesthetics
>dislike it because it lacks a cuirass yet is heavier than nameless knight armor and also better statswise.
Don't make no sense, guy is wearing a fuckin t-shirt into battle. At least it looks cool but still.

>>183408678
It's got chainmail and leather under the tabbard, you knave

>>183408678
Its a surcoat over chainmail, and a chainmail shirt is heavier than a cuirass.

>>183409086
Yeah but nameless knight probably has that shit too.

>>183403562
Yes.
Definitely.
Alternatively deprived works okay too if you want to get your faith up to 12 to use the IMMOLATION TINDER.
THE BADDEST INT WEAPON AROUND.