/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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>DS2 is dead

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Next Souls game when

>>183242285
>Three (3) free sunlight medals
God I wish that were me

>>183242292
Dark Souls 3: Professor of the Primary Flaw, Q4 2017

>>183242105
I miss lost sinner sword

>>183242583
I miss powerstancing them.

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What do I level up?

>>183242420
Did you get one Sunbro Medal per Sunbro as a host in DaS2? That sounds kind of broken.

>>183243698
Are you going a pure Str build, or angling towards quality?

You're already over the Endurance soft-cap, which is retardedly low, but getting it up to 30 or 40 for a melee build is not a bad idea in the long run. Otherwise, get Str to 50 and power-stance Orma-Reeve's.

>>183243698
More Vigor or Strength.

>abyss watchers
>first phase you either get double teamed, the boss locks onto the red eye asshole and you get fucked with by the other asshole, or the 2 assholes fight each other and you can actually deal with the boss
rev up that artificial difficulty!

>>183242292
Dragon's/Divine/Damned/Dog Souls soon.

>>183243925
Strength, but I was 18 for the Dragonrider Bow. It's only a few levels above my starting class, so why not. Thanks.
>>183243951
Thanks.

>>183244040
Or you can learn to focus on two different targets and stagger-lock them because lolnopoise.

A regular Watcher is always the first to spawn and always in the same place, just whack him down as he's getting up and it becomes a 1v1 fight again until the red-eyed one wakes up.

What are the best weapons to use buffs with?

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>it's another "UGS swings 10 degrees away from the enemy and you get killed because fuck you for playing shitty games" episode
I'm not even holding the fucking stick forward STOP FUCKING DOING THIS

>>183246169
For elemental buffs: Either weapons that already have innate damage in the element in question, or small weapons with low damage but high swing rate.

For Blessed Weapon: Any weapon with 500 or more physical AR, or just generally any weapon.

>>183243698
What weapon are you using? STR soft caps at 40, only worth going to 50 if it has S scaling.

END is pretty important too and you can optimize it. You want to be able to chain as many swings as possible and be left with a sliver of stamina to roll away.

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>>183246169
Ricard's

>>183247410
I'm maining the Craftsman's Hammer.
I have about that much stamina right now, though I do occasionally find myself wanting one more hit. It hasn't been often enough for it to be much of a problem for me overall, though.

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>>183242285
Glad it's still alive. The other night I kept getting quick summons on my 4.7mil sm dex fag for the gank squad boss. I still get tons of duels and invasions too. I really enjoy invading right before Venric.

They aren't planning to make the same mistakes for reds in BB2 right?

>>183249319
>implying there's going to be a BB2

>>183249319
>BB2
>>>/bbg/

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>Beats Bed of Chaos after 4 attempts feeling good
>Wonders where Solarie after noticed is voice lines where less jolly than his usually self
>Walk into the shortcut area with some bugs and notice he's gone hollow
>Putting another one of my companions down

After what happened to tarkus, and lautrec betraying me and killing the firekeeper I'm sorta just fucked up right now

>>183249319
I'd love to have a BB2 on PC since I don't have the cash for a PS4 but love gothic & cosmic horror, but the invasion and summon system in BB seem like absolute garbage. If there is a multi-plat BB2, I hope that aspect is reworked.

>>183249319
They aren't, because they aren't planning on making a BB2.

>>183247779
Well my post was aimed more at ultra weapons, low endurance is punished to fuck with those. Craftsman's Hammer is one of the best PvE weapons in the game so you can just pump stats wherever you want. For PvP you might want to switch it for something with more range though.

>>183244040
Kys shitter

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>>183249706
Why didn't you save him anon? Why?

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>tfw Raptor Flurry

the only good thing about claws

>>183249861
This is my first play through of DS1 and I just learned about the shortcut with Quelagg's sister, but it was already too late because I killed her

>>183249729
>Souls plot is done
>No BB2
>Almost unthinkable that From would outright drop the gameplay format that truly put them on the map and continues to prove popular for many

So, what's next? Sci-Fi doesn't seem like it'd fit the From "dark" writing style. Dead Space Souls?

>>183250048
You killed Queelan? Why? Just bein a dick?

>>183249725
>but the invasion and summon system in BB seem like absolute garbage

passive matchmaking with no signs seems a better system to me. the problem is spawning you at the beginning of an area with no fucking clue where the host is

>>183250235
Just seems dumb that they can disable invaders entirely by killing one particular enemy hidden in a zone. Why not tie it to bosses like in Souls?

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>>183250232
In my less than better judgement I killed her cause I didn't have the witch's ring and she has a firekeeper soul so why not. I was proven so terribly wrong.

>>183249761
>Craftsman's Hammer is one of the best PvE weapons in the game
Well that's nice to hear. I was just using it because the idea of using something that's not technically a weapon is kind a funny to me. Neat.

>>183250384
I didn't do much PvP in BB but it felt like they wanted it to be more faction based similar to DaS3. Covenants have matchmaking priority so willing people fight that way, the concept of invading random players is pretty much dead.

>>183250587
Strike damage weapons m8, most enemies are weak to them.

>>183251369
I was wondering why there were so many messages saying things like "despair ahead" or "remember ally". I thought they were just bad at the game or kids jumping on something popular. Didn't realize I was playing on easy mode.

>>183250235
So many things are broken with BB's PvP as it is, to the point where anything would be an improvement.

>no way to summon specific people, meaning that even with password matchmaking there's a chance that some asshole could crash your session
>the only way to invade outside of two particular zones is if the host already has a buttbuddy (meaning that every invader will have to deal with a gank squad no matter what), and you can turn off invasions by killing a mob enemy
>when summoning randoms, there's a chance that the guy that comes in will be hostile to you just because of the specific covenant rune you or they have on (and on a similar note, if you do want to put on a covenant rune you can't equip one of the two transformation runes)
>duels and FCs are convoluted to set up since a host will always have the extra HP advantage no matter what, and all the participants have to organize which covenant patch they want to strap on just to be able to oppose one another

About the one good thing about BB's PvP is that chalice dungeons give you a form of replayable co-op.

>>183251963
In regards to the mob than allows invasions, she only shows up in two areas outside of chalice dungeons. So outside of those areas, invasions are impossible anyway.

>>183251663
Nothing wrong with using a decent weapon, facerolling retards will still die to most bosses. Casting is or at least used to be easy mode.

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left or right

>>183252165
That's my point. If you want to invade in, say, Forbidden Woods and be an asshole with those giant snek balls, or Fishing Hamlet with a Brador cosplay, you're shit out of luck unless some guy within your BL range summoned a buttbuddy to help him through. Your only options are to invade at Mergo's or Nightmare Frontier.

Overall the PvP in Bloodborne severely restricts the players' freedom, much more than in Dark Souls. I don't agree with that methodology since limitation of freedom also limits creativity and longevity.

>>183252524
Oh shit, I got halfway through your post. Didn't realize you touched on that already.
There's a bunch of bell towers in the game, I wonder why they didn't have one of those allow invaders instead just making it so an old woman with a tiny bell does it.

>>183252782
>>183252782
>I got halfway through your post.
I got DISTRACTED halfway through the post. Whoops.

>>183252524

It's always been like that though. DeS had pretty much optional PvP, DaS1 you could only invade humans who had no reason to be so unless co-oping and DaS3 is like they tried to make invasions as bad as possible.

2 is the only game that tried to encourage it with hollow invasions, killed boss areas etc. and even then they fucked it up with SM.

Does carthus sword WA have hyperarmor?

they should make dark souls 4 or something I can't stand this any longer

>>183252459


right

Why haven't they made a boss rush mode yet?

>>183252459
Neither. Go make a dude you fucking weirdo.

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>>183253738
>wanting another Souls game after the total shit show that was 3
Miyazaki has clearly shown that he can't do this anymore, nor does he even want to.

>>183253870
They have. It is called chalices

>>183253870
muh world design
muh atmosphere
muh lore

fuck it, i want a mode where players can control bosses

>>183253420
You still used Humanity in DaS1 to kindle bonfires. And DaS3 does encourage a form of PvP in that activating an Ember gives you bonus HP for having an easier time getting through the PvE segments, along with the duelfaggotry arenas (despite the games outside of DaS2 being explicitly designed against duelfaggotry).

Perhaps the PvP and dueling aspects were things that Miyazaki deliberately didn't want to encourage in BB. Maybe they recognized what they did wrong and DaS3 got so many expanded PvP options as a result of that. But whatever their next Souls game, I do hope that they continue to learn and improve, and more than just incrementally (covenants in DaS3, for instance, are about the most fucked they've ever been in a Souls game)

>>183254143
Those don't have all the bosses, and there are levels between them, so it's not much of a rush.

>>183254143
>boss rush
>have to run through ten hundred big empty boxes and then back to get to one boss
Lmao no

>>183253870
>there will never be an option where you can pay a fee in souls to revive the boss of an area, re-activating PvP
At the least, it would make FC hosting much more flexible, to say nothing of creating PvP activity for territory defenders and Dorkmoons.

>>183254092
seeing as you're still playing at least one of these shitty games I think you would appreciate a new one too.

>>183254652
As long as Miyazaki dies beforehand.

>>183254236
>DaS3 does encourage a form of PvP in that activating an Ember gives you bonus HP for having an easier time getting through the PvE segments

Might have been their intention but it didn't work. I was embered for near enough the whole game and never got invaded by a red. Admittedly it's a hard thing to balance, random solo hosts don't stand a chance against a PvPer which kinda goes against From's "hard but fair" philosophy.

>>183250046
>open arms
>very loud sound
>start charging
>almost ready
>any second now
>meanwhile the other player is already miles away

>>183252459
left
is that the ginger?

>>183255151
yes

>go back to my cool cowboy build in DS3 after having not touched him since last year
>the Sharp nerf has made him completely fucking useless
F U C K
Y O U
M I Y A Z A K I

>>183255680

>Sharp Nerf

man the fuck you been drinking

>>183255680
>Sharp nerf
Son, Sharp infusions are the best they've ever been.

>if you use a twinkling weapon you can upgrade it to +5 before Pontiff
Did I make a mistake? Will I get any summons until NG+?

>>183256182
You'll be able to interact with players with +8 weapons, so you'll be out of luck until probably Lothric Castle.

>>183256182
random summons you probably won't until castle, you can always summon passworded phantoms from here until then

>>183256526
I mean if *I* want to get summoned.

>>183256719
Leddit and Steam forums have lots of people looking for summons. Usually NG+ and above but not a problem if you're not a shitter

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>>183255680
>t. 40 dex

>>183256719
Same, you probably won't get activity until Lothric Castle or Grand Archives. You can also dive into the DLCs and get some activity there too depending on your SL.

>Upgrading weapons beyond +4 normal, +2 unique

>Leveling beyond 25-30

>Before having cleared as much of the game as possible

It's like you don't enjoy collecting all the covenant items you need before you even need them

>summoning or being summoned fails 9 times out of 10
Never used to do this to me when Ashes came out
I guess I'll just uninstall again

>>183257490
I have an issue which is I have to collect all the items on my subsequent Souls playthroughs. All but farming the covenant items that is. Fuck that noise. Especially in D3, because how broken the summoning is and how low the droprates are in pve.

>>183257673
Also the one time it did work
>invade in archives
>host is going solo
>two dorkmoons show up immediately
>host uses giants seed

>>183258021

That's precisely why I stick to low levels. Less competition, higher chance of success if you know the basic tactics for invading and how to use your weapon

A password summon can have all the spells he wants but you're still killing him in 3-5 good hits with a raw +4, and there's no reason why your estus is gonna be worse than his if you play through the game

It's literally the perfect way to play, just stick to the 25-30 level range until you have all but the Aldrich Faithful completed, then shoot to that level and breeze through with your obscuring ring

Remember, lower level players use Way of Blue more because they have less reason to use the other covenants. Hell, twink low enough and it's the only covenant they'd have available. You'd be fighting twinks with your own twink build. Just remember that Mace/Warpick trumps Broadsword trumps Dagger trumps Vordt's trumps Warpick/mace

>>183251963
>So many things are broken with BB's PvP as it is, to the point where anything would be an improvement.
They just didn't give a fuck about pvp, but if they removed it completely, it would drop the sales.

>>183258434
I'm always using the way of blue on all of my characters, even the really high level ones, when I'm not putting down my own sign. I went through the trouble of farming the ears on my original character, so I know the pain the blueberries are going through to get those ears, so I'm always willing to give them an opportunity to get summoned.

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>>183252459
Right

>>183258021
I'm finally at the point where I don't care grab all shinies unless I know I need them or are right there. Having a char with literally everything helps

>>183252459
I'd say left, but I'm predisposed towards the Judgement set so that's a bias.

>>183257490
>covenant items you need

only useful to pure casters and pvp hybrids for the buff miracles. watchdogs have the only relevant rewards for melee builds and they're shit

das2 had better and more varied rewards imo, if only covenants actually worked in that game

>playing Linear-PVE-Input-Reading-Enemies-No-Fashion-No-Build-Variety-Broken-PVP-Limp-Bizkit's-Rollin'-Brown-and-Grey-Souls 3

>>183259269
Huh? Covenants worked the best in DS2.

>>183258982
Oh no, your subjective preference is biased? Is NOTHING safe from logical fallacies?

>>183258434
Where does Great Club fall in the rock-paper-scissors of the low level fights

>>183258434
>Mace/Warpick trumps Broadsword trumps Dagger trumps Vordt's trumps Warpick/mace
It this ranked by hyper armor or something?

>>183259509
Great Club is an all around great weapon but doesn't have a particular quality to make it better at low levels. Perseverance is amazing at low levels and frost is STRONK af too, especially since it procs in 3 hits max with bordhammer, usually 2

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>tfw no rotted ghru greatsword

>>183259509

Same basic principle as Vordt's, except you'd be better off using Vordt's for trading due to the poise WA and high likelyhood of a 2-hit frost proc nuke, and using the Great Club for ambushes due to the obvious strengths of its R2, which you're not going to hit on a player who knows what you're doing

To put it simply, for standard low level twink builds Vordt's is the superior choice simply due to the sheer likelyhood of it either 2-shotting an enemy or coming close enough that a few throwing daggers ends the fight, whereas while the Greatclub is of course a strong weapon it lacks both the poise WA in favour of the far less useful non-millwood warcry WA as well as the massive frost buildup

Did they buff frost since launch? I remember it hardly being something to care about back then. Especially considering it's a new status effect and all, but it felt super overpowered.

>>183259772
>no clean versions of ghru weapons that demon ruins ghrus use
>the block with ugs/gh/ga isn't the one raime uses
>no blue/golden variations of armor
>NO SILVER KNIGHT WEAPONS
>dsga WA isn't the stance
>no sunlight blade
>no face

>>183259724

Warpick consistently beats swords due to its increased counter damage, easy rollcatching and hyperarmour, which counters the quick spamhappy moveset of the SS. Sword beats dagger because it swings fast enough to hit quickstep spammers and doesn't leave you open to backstab due to its speed (Do not under any circumstances swing more than twice if the enemy has a parrying tool). Dagger beats Greathammer due to its quickstep being able to nullify the weaponswings, as well as how easy it is to backstab greathammer users. Greathammer beats Warpick/Mace simply because they don't really have the speed to hit and run against greathammers, and their poise will be broken by your attacks

Of course, there's also the Red Hilted Halberd, which tends to beat the faster SS due to its counter damage, and the Warpick/Mace due to its faster speed and range advantage, but loses to the dagger due to quickstep bullshittery and the greathammer due to less range

>>183259964

While frost itself hasn't been buffed per-say, having a weaker damage hit than bleed but decreasing stamina recovery, frost weapons got buffed massively, taking far less hits to proc it than ever

>>183259407
way of blue and the souls police were screwed from the start since orbs were limited. ratbros was a neat concept but for some reason they made invasion territories completely optional. reds should have been focused around invasions and not arena duels.

they might have worked on a strictly functional level, but they were heavily flawed in design

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>Host dies before you can jump down to the demons

>>183260239
>Dagger beats Greathammer due to its quickstep being able to nullify the weaponswings
?
Can you get out of a two hit combo with a quickstep? I never really used this WA.

>>183260430

Better than get out of, you simply can't be hit by the first swing using it

You can quickstep, get a solid 2 hits in, quickstep again and continue this. If you time things right and position yourself correctly you'll easily be able to hit a backstab

The most proficient greathammer user in the world cannot beat an average quickstep dagger user dimply due to the speed the weapon swings

>>183260302
Orbs could be farmed/bought, and the souls police being able to invade sinners after the boss was dead in their world was worth the trade-off by a huge margin.
Agree about the arenas being stupid compared to traditional invasions. But mechanically DS2 covenants are miles better than anything in the other two games.

>>183260545
Oh, I thought you meant there's some hidden mechanic unique to the quickstep WA.
You "can't be hit" by just timing your rolls properly as well.

>>183260239
On lowlevel there is also darkfist. You can get it right after killing Vordt, and it has massive damage both as fist and with WA.

>>183260669

Quite true, but it's a hell of a lot easier to attack between swings when you're not limited to the rolling attack, and not recovering from a roll

You roll to avoid a greathammer, that means you just keep rolling. You quickstep to avoid a greathammer, you quickstep, attack, quickstep, attack

And remember, frost builds up on contact regardless of any damage going through. You're less likely to get frost procced on yourself using the quickstep than you are with a roll, in my experience

>>183260871
>frost builds up on contact regardless of any damage going through
Interesting. The other status effects don't build up if you iframe through the attack, do they?

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>>183261045
They do.

>>183261182
Weird, I've never noticed that. Does this happen only in PvP or PvE too?

>>183261045

All status effects do, it's why bleed builds use to be so powerful, they changed how you had to time your rolls. The only reason frost is worth mentioning is because it gets the same buildup strength regardless of weapon upgrade level or your own stats, the only thing that changes is that people get better defense against it as you go up in levels

Whereas bleed require luck to get effective buildup, so it's stronger in later levels. Un/fortunately, hollow infusion and carthus rouge both got nerfed so luck builds have fallen by the wayside. You're more likely to be bled out by a frayed blade user, which is a pure dex weapon

tl;dr: All status effects build up through rolls and the like. Frost is better at low level because no stat requirement, worse at high level due to no increase from stats/higher resistance

>>183260737

While it does to high damage, it's a very limited weapon due to its range. It will consistently lose to Straight Swords because they can initiate easier, it will lose to daggers due to being reasonably easy to parry (Bearing in mind it doesn't get the dual wield sanic fast moveset of caestus' and other fist weapons), Warpicks due to the counter damage and poise, and while it can peform well against greathammers, you're better off with other weapons. Also has a fairly poor rolling attack

With that noted, it also weighs nothing, so always have one equipped simply because if you can hit with it, the damage is huge at those levels

>>183261254
Don't know. Enemies don't have status bars, or players controlling them to tell me.

How good is perseverane?
Which attacks can it poise through and which it can't?

What's the best looking armor in Fashion Souls 2? Not looking for Desert Sorceress set and shit like that. I mean actual armor.

>>183261512
Fashion is subjective you dumdum.

>>183261512
Give us some criteria and we will try to give you an answer.

>>183261464

Depends on the weapon, But as a general rule even the smaller weapons can poise through anything short of an UGS tier weapon

>>183261512
>>183261547
>>183261601
>>183261643
These. We need to know what kind of build you're going for to put together any ideas of what to wear.

>>183261643
So you still can't possibly trade with UGS?

>>183261601
Something similar to the Lord's Blade Ciaran's set from the original ideally. Otherwise something that doesn't look super heavy but still reminiscent of a knight.

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Found someone with almost the same fashion (I wear brigand gauntlets, he wears brass I think)
He wasn't very friendly though

>>183261464
Perseverance is the best weapon art in the game. It gives you DaS1 poise (and adds to your own poise) and reduces incoming damage by 50% for the first half of the buff (used to be for full duration). You use it to win trades versus predictable attacks.

The best weapons with perseverance are:
1. Black Knight Sword
2. The Mace
3. Caestus

Bonus effect is that players with thrusting weapons such as rapiers will "bounce" off of you with perseverance active allowing you to deal stability damage to them.

>>183261725

I'd not try to use a caestus agaisnt them, mainly because they will do more damage in the trade generally

It's been a very long time since I've actually traded with a perseverance user, and the builds I've been running of late haven't used any perseverance weapons outside of low level play where you're not gonna be running into many UGSs and the like, and you'd be dumb as a sack of spanners to trade with anyone with the points to wield one when you can probably kill them with a stack of throwing knives

Best bet mate is just try it out for yourself

>>183249725
>BB2 on pc
Haha, absolutely no chance. Sony controls the i.p and they don't let go of their exclusives.

>>183261765
So something blue, mainly cloth, and knightly.
What weapons?

>>183261912
Very nice.
>>183261643
Btw, what was that bit about depending on the weapon? Is the same art on different weapons grants different amount of poise?
>they will do more damage in the trade generally
I mean if you need to land just a hit to finish them, can you poise through an UGS swing with perseverance and not get staggered?

>>183261968
Currently using an Estoc, but I might switch to a greatsword later in the game or go for power stancing with Estoc+something else. Haven't settled yet.

>>183260669
True, I don't usually quickstep myself.
I have around 50 hours with this LKS/dagger SL50 invader character and I don't ever remember losing to a two handed weapon at all if I'm with the dagger.

At the beginning the dagger was for one shot ripostes but one time I got really frustrated because I played with the LKS against a really good player that knows how to use the 2h efficiently in every way, and I pulled out the dagger to see what happens.
He shat himself and couldn't keep up with the speed and died. Dagger is a top tier weapon and I wish to fucking god there would be a legit cloak and dagger pvp build in DS4.

dragonsis

>>183262037

Oh yeah, definitely, that's why it's so useful, if you can keep on their arse they're basically destined to die at that point

>>183262238

Thank you for verifying what I'm saying man. It really is a ridiculously powerful weapon at all levels of play

>>183254590
That literally is what happened in TRC with the King'a decree.

>>183253870
>>183254092

Boss rush mode is inherently too "gamey" for Souls and in my opinion Souls already went into a way too gamey direction with a lot of shit added for "convenience".

Additionally any sort od boss rush means less people playing the core game which means less people to co-op with or invade, which makes people who are interested in co-oping drop the game faster.

>>183262151
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Armor+A-E

>>183262552
Huh. I guess textralife has at least one useful thing.

Anyone need a co-op partner? I finished the game and just want to be summoned.

>>183262801
Game/platform?

>>183262874
PC

>>183262801
Dark Souls 3 PC

>decide to try Dark Souls since everybody is praising it
>go with DS3 cause I hear its the best port
>have to find online guides on basic stuff like how to fucking jump because the keybinds menu lies to you
>SPRINT+FORWARD+ATTACK=jumping attack
lel no

>>183263623
Or you could just buy a fucking controller.

Huh, this is nice. Played DaS3 on release, no one used Warpick and generally on rare chance people said anything: they would claim it's shit. I come back few days ago after a really long break and its appearantly a very popular weapon now. How'd this happen?

>>183263953
Poise got buffed a while back.

>>183263623
Just run and then press the jump button. Space by default I think. The jumping attack can done from idle by pressing direction+strong attack. The keybinds menu doesn't lie, it just doesn't show the combo moves like running/rolling/jumping attacks and the such. Which I'm pretty sure are shown in the tutorial

>>183264061
Oh that's good to hear, really happy that my favourite weapon is popular now.

>>183264075
It says space for jump. Press space, nothing happens, it lies. Also you can only jump attack while stationary, which is just flat out retarded.

>>183263953
3rd R1 on hammers got a huge momentum buff, poise (hyperarmor) now makes some sense and lmao leo ring counters.

>>183264260
You have to be running for the jump, you can't bunnyhop. In 3, you can also press strong attack while running to do a jump attack

>>183244040
this is bait

>>183264487
>responding to 6 hour old bait
???

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ummm... wat?

>>183264865
What, the lack of the Catarina set?

Did you kill the demon with Siegward? What about opening the main entrance to the Cathedral of the Deep?

>>183266097
Yes and by main entrance you mean the one opposite to Rosarias? I don't think so. Is that a trigger?

>5 invasions in a row that ended with an ALT F4
These people should at least lose all their souls and ember or something, that would be a better way of discouraging this faggotry than a slap on the wrist """ban""".

>>183263623
I was at the same spot you are. Then I bought a controller and became good at everything.

>>183266787
It's probably some "what if their internet actually fails" leniency. Thing is, if you play on a shit tier internet and you know it, why the fuck are you playing online?

>>183264101
Yeah, sacred flame was never this useful.

>>183266370
yes

>>183267041
>>183266787
Force closing the game should result in loss of all souls, lose ember state and receice a 5 minute debuff that cannot be removed by dying on the character; "Souless coward, can be invaded without embering"

But if game disconnects from the internet you won't receive any of these penalties so people that lose internet connection won't be fucked for nothing.

Sure people will plug their cables but it will make everything such a hassle thus less people will do it.

Hire me From?

>>183267245
It's hard if not impossible for the server to tell the difference between those (all the more if it's trying to tell the difference between an alt-F4 and a game or machine crash), and if it's checked client-side than it can always be spoofed.

>>183267245
>such a hassle
it will only be a hassle for people with onboard network cards. Everyone else can just have the cable or usb ready to pull if needed
>>183267462
I stand by what I said. If you have a shit tier machine/connection, you should not be playing online, you're a nuisance to everyone

>>183267462
I don't think it's impossible, since it's already in the game. When you force disconnect you get a warning next time you log back about data not being always saved if you force close, and when you lose connection to the internet you also get an error about that.

>>183267701
I have a USB cable and it's a hassle for me.
First of all, I need to pull out the machine itself from it's library built in box, then push the screen to the wires because the cable connecting is too short and only then disconnect the usb cable.

Now, implying there is an invader in my world and I need to do it fast, I'm probably going to hit my head at least twice

I might have a retarded station, but I'm definitely not the only one.

>>183267727
Those are client-side. All the server sees is that you suddenly stopped sending data and replying to requests.

>>183267940
Can't the penalties be client side as well?

Treating it as a death would only suck if you dropped a bunch of souls somewhere and your game crashes while you're connected to another player.
In which case just start the game in offline mode, then reboot once you collect your souls.

>>183268143
Like I said in the first place, if it's client-side it can be spoofed.

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>>183266787
>taking invasions seriously

>>183247441
>two handing a rapier
literally why, it's objectively inferior that way

>>183267890
Yeah, but if you see you commonly want to pull the plug, you could just reposition your system unit prior to logging in, so that you can quickly do what need'st be done. Hell, most cases have usb ports in the front for even easier access. If you want to be a shithead, you easily can with minimum hassle

>>183250515
>>183250048
You can actually kill the sunbug without opening the shortcut. Get close to the door and use a dragon weapon stong attacks for example, chances are, you're gonna hit it. That's how I did it on my second playthrough. You can also use a poison mist or something like that.

Is twin princes' GS any good?

>>183268459
Please explain what you mean by this, :3 anime girl poster?
How is disliking people who waste your time taking the game too seriously?

And don't say that you're wasting someone's time by invading them, because invasions are part of the game just like anything else if you choose to play online with your extra 30% HP.

Any way to make bleed build work? I'm on 60 dex 35 (40 with hollow caestus) luck and using sharp crow talons, bleed infused mankin claws and poison infused corvian scythe. Also stacking pontiff rings and wolf's curved gs. It isn't working very well PvP though, so I'm thinking about respecing into 80 dex. Any tips on how can I make the bleed work?

>>183268723
Not in the meta faggotry, if that's what you meant. I think it's okay in pve in super late game. Although still probably not as good as stuff like DSGA.

>>183268727
>actually proved his point by this post alone
Wew lad.

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>>183268727
stop getting mad at video games nigga, ragequitters have been part of the game for a long time already and theres nothing you can do about it

I finally killed Capra Demon. Took me only 3 suicide attempts, 2 clinical psychologist visits, 2 OD's and a divorce.

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I just soloed Gael on NG+7 with just melee. It was my first time beating Gael. Goddamn guys, that was amazing.

>>183268994
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>>183268898
No, but there could easily be better ways to discourage it than "ur banned for pussying out a bunch of times, but not really :)"

>>183268994
i had similar feelings beating midir, but on NG+7 i imagine that shit must feel intense

>>183268861

Frayed Blade can more or less 2-Hit bleed if you combo the WA attacks

Honestly, just go 40/40 Dex and Luck, use a Bleed Bandit Knife/Brigand Twindaggers with Frayed Blade and just quickstep and attack spam, that's the best way to get bleed off. Or, use a 27/40 STR/LCK build with a bleed infused Spiked Mace if you want something heavier. Hell, combine the both of them

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>>183268994
>ywn have that tounge wrap around your body
Why even live...

>>183268861
No. Frost is pretty much the only status worth a damn in PVP these days.

>Invading Farron Keep area as watchdog
>constantly invading gank-spanks with leveled down phantoms wearing havels, etc.
how do i deal with this asides from parrying/gittin gud?

>>183269219
It was nuts. Took me nearly 30 tries. My heart was pounding during his last phase.

>>183269413
Feels fucking bad man.

>>183268723
Yes if you are not a shitter >>183268863

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>>183269671
Serve the greater good. Occupy the invasion slot indefinitely while you read a book and hide from them.

If another invader gets in make an honest attempt to help them kill the fags.

>>183269671
Welcome to the low level PVP, just Crystal out when you see those faggots. The downscaling system is broken as all fuck in this game, especially with how ridiculously easy they've made co-op already.

>>183270057
I never really done much downscaling summons in DS3, how does it work?
I did quite a few in BB, and I must say it's pretty bad, because it seems to cut your health proportional to your level, even if both you and the low lvl host can easily have the same 40 vit, if you're 100 lvls above them, your health will become so low you risk getting oneshot.

Who cares about making invaders happy?

What weapons do people use in Dark Souls 1 NG +? I'm using a +15 claymore with around 35 STR 20 DEX and I'm not doing enough damage

>>183270321
No one? There pieces of baby shit who whine day in and day out.

>>183270321
It's literally part of the game. If you can't accept that, find another game

>>183270246
It pretty much just increases damage received and your lowers damage output by some percent. I don't know if there's any good information about it, but pretty much all the numbers stay the same meaning you can run into Havel Monsters with 99 VIT throwing Crystal Soul Spears at Undead Settlement.

>>183270321
The game would be boring without invaders

>>183270358
Why aren't you at 50/50 yet?
Anyway, weapon enchants start becoming more important as NG cycles go. Although I think NG+ is easier than NG.
But on NG, say +4, you might get in trouble on 4 kings if you lack the DPS. I personally recommend Falchion+15 with lightning enchant. Or DMB for stuff that's resistant to lightning, if there's such a thing in the first game.

>>183269671
Honestly, after around 200 hours of just imvading in irithyl, I found out that gitin gud is the only solution (clearly).
Parrying is your best bet against groups, 2H cleaving weapons are nice as well.
Make sure to lure them into dangerous mobs and id you cant, run around in an open field and wait for a phantom to be alone behind you, 180 and R1.

Bonus tip: Avelyn with explosives.

>>183270421
>lowers damage output
I'm pretty sure it lowers your ar, meaning spellbuff for css and great heals just flies under the radar

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>>183270409
>downscale phantom ganks and disconnects are literally part of the game. If you can't accept that, find another game

>>183270807
That is correct.

>>183270321
Invasions are why I still play this game.
Instead of 400 I would have like 10.

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>>183270620
>Parrying is your best bet against groups
The amount of times I've parried or guardbroken some fag only to be staggered by his buttbuddy before I can ripost is greater than the amount of times I've riposted a player
>>183270807
Downscaled phantoms and ganks ARE part of the game. Is it a shitty thing to do? Sure, but so is twinking with 14+10 estus and dark hand or raw dsa and the such. There are ways to deal with it. Disconnects are not part of the game, there is no command "I want out now" for hosts, only phantoms and that takes time instead of being instant. You can't even quit game. That's like saying ce is part of the game

>>183271051
Knowing when to parry against a group is also a part of gitin gud.
No matter the group, there is always a window to parry against a solo, sometimes you'll have to be patient and run around like a dumbass for 2-3 minutes but you do what you need to if you want to win and ultimately kill the host.

can you switch to wotb during an invasion and get backup? I refuse to believe all of these people I've invaded just have it on by default.

>>183271483
Yes. The host can have 4 summons at once without even using a Finger.

>>183271483
Yes. Hosts have infinite amounts of help.

>>183271515
>>183271537
I knew there was some weird shit going on. fucking hell.
way to go memezaki

>>183271483
>>183271515
What? I'm pretty sure it's impossible to switch the covenant slot item in a multiplayer session. Or it was before. Or at least I always had the impression it was...

>>183271610
Nope. You can't change covenants if you're an invader or phantom, but a host can change at any time.

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>>183271578
That's nothing wrong with that. It ensures that blues get more chances to get summoned and they're fucked as it is. As an invader, you should see this as a chance to get 2 free estus and a nice trinket to show for it. And remember: blues are fucking retarded. Most of them can only gank and rarely had to actually fight 1v1, except maybe duels. They don't know when to heal, they rarely punish estus. Some times they'll even be summoned from a farming session, fumbling to get the right gear on

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>>183271871
Not all of us are retarded

>summoning, rolling, and pulling the plug when things don't go his way
The people that play these games, man.

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>>183272115
Highly doubt that

I really don't enjoy having your bloodstain be where you died in the other world.

>>183272216
Have you finally come to realization that the main Souls audience never was the tryhard PvP players, but the casuals who just want to feel good by steamrolling through the game by means of the jolly co-operation?

>>183272421
You're twinking. You didn't need those souls anyways.

>>183269671
Low level Watchdogging (like, 30) I had huge success with Vordt's.

>>183272583
But my OCD does.

>>183272614
I've been seeing one dude on PC using that with the bandit set-up, i'm at the same SL.
Probably not you but who knows
>>183270620
Honestly, I just grabbed myself a nice GS for groups; I'm playing with a regen build and it's pretty nice when it comes to poise-trades

>>183272583
What makes you think that?

I wish that you could actually get a cape like Gael.

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>>183273473
Just don't expect it to get a hitbox

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Any tips on beating Soul of Cinder with a pyromancer?

>>183274342
Try dark pyros/weapons. Or raw if everything else fails.

>>183274342
git gud

>Finally become a SL1 Darkwraith
>Power goes out
This is some pretty effective anti-griefing technology I must admit

>>183274342
Step 1. Quit posting shit girls
Step 2. Gitgud

>>183245632
is that the splitleaf greatsword and curse ward greatshield?
...why does patches have the curse ward greatshield?

>>183274342
Raw, and weapon. Have a lighting spell epqipped since your 40/40 or 35/35 for INT and FTH. (Also post more cute acceptable females)

>>183268569
??? you take larger steps forward when 2 handing a rapier

>>183274543
Outskilled, faggot
>>183274634
To try as best as he can to fight off his hollowing. Alas, a folly

>>183274543
do you have any tips for beating the four kings SL1? I've had a lot of trouble with my SL1 darkwraith with the bosses

>>183271871
How to punish estus? It's too fast
>mimic mask on
Poor guy was farming his proofs

what do hollow girls smell like

>>183274937
Not that guy, but I think Chaos Reinforced Club is the name of the game at SL1.

>>183275106
Don't you need the lava ring to get to the Chaos infusion ember? There's no way you have enough HP to run to it at SL1

>>183274937

Use an elemental weapon and Power Within.

>>183274342
What mango is that animu from?

>phantom avarice heads making a stair master of the cathedral

The will of the dark sun.

>>183274937
You'll need:
>Ascended pyromancy flame+5
>Stone Set
>Crest Shield (The one Oscar uses)
>2 combustions
>Optionally you could get the Rite of Kindling
Just stay really close the Kings and use Combustion, 32 charges will kill 3 kings and leave the fourth at ~1/2 hp

>>183275207
Nah, you can grab it before you die if you're fast. Well, maybe not at SL1, dunno if you have enough health for that.
Otherwise you can settled down for Lightning, your second best option.

>>183275001
Like delicious vanilla and bacon when you bathe them. Remember to feed them humanity every now and then!

>>183274942
If you see him backing up with less than 2/3 hp, stick to him, preferably with something fast. It's almost impossible to actually hit someone before they heal and backstabs are out of the question even if they walk with their back to you, but you can usually nullify at least half of the heal for free. It also demoralizes them

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>>183275290
>>183275381
>>183275424
cool, thanks friendos

Fuck me, they made the run to the Smelter Demon about a million times worse in SotFS.

>>183275534
The best sl1 weapon against kangs is the giant blacksmith's hammer. For ng you can just slap havel's on and go to town, ng+ and beyond you will usually get oneshot, especially by the grab, so you need to actually learn when to roll.

>>183275537
Yep, the Iron Keep was one of the best areas in vanilla, but SotFS "improved" so much it's one of the worst in the game now, on par with Amana.

>>183275537
>>183275714
Use pillars to block greatarrows and mow down knights before the next one reaches you. It doesn't even require getting good, just not being a literal retard.

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>>183275714
I always disliked Iron Keep. Way too bright and the design of the area was more reminiscent of Bowser's castle than feeling like a "factory" or such. It feels like some modder made it out of the leftovers of Brume Tower (which I suspect was content originally meant for the base game but cut at the last minute)

>>183274742
Just checked it to be sure. You don't. One handed actually has slightly more range, (checked on ricard's) not to mention it's faster and it doesn't scale with str anyway, so the damage isn't better either.

>>183275995
Nobody is talking about "hurr it 2hard me no understand arrow" you mongoloid.
Just how the sprint to the Smelter now basically forces you to kill everything on the way, as they'll gangfuck your bootyhole if you try and run through.

>>183275537

lightning damage. kill each knight as they arrive.

idk m8, i've truly never struggled with that area ever.

>>183275995
The problem is that you can't pull the knights one by one to carefully clear the area like you could. They're artificially stuffed into that tiny room above the lava, and they all drop down simultaneously after you cross the bridge. There's nothing rewarding about that, the game just forces you to run away until the AI reaches its leash to be able to fight them without being swarmed.

>>183276125
Oh no, now you need to engage the enemies exactly once on your way to an easy boss. Boo fucking hoo.

>>183276212
>he can't fight more than one Alonne at one time
Welcome to being a literal retard. Glad I could help.

Gael's greatsword would be pretty fun if poise actually worked.

>>183276045
>made it out of the leftovers of Brume Tower
pretty much what happened. I've seen unused areas of the keep, it was great. Just look at all this shit.
DS2 remake FUCKING WHEN

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>>183276212
Remember when Iron Keep had that secret wall hiding a ballista the sole function of which is to shoot a single Alonne Knight in the ass?

Also posting this so I can access it on my pc later.

>>183276316
Neither can you, retard. You can't reliably dodge four enemies swinging at you with irregular intervals.

>>183276468
>Just look at all this shit.
>I've gone from forgetting images to forgetting links
At least I don't have to wait 120 seconds to post
http://imgur.com/a/njm2t
>>183276509
>sole function
You could actually draw others there and the knockdown lasted long enough that you could keep them locked if you timed it right. I don't know about sotfs

>>183276559
The most the game ever throws at you on NG is 2 at a time. If you're in facefuck range of more than two, you've either fucked up your aggro pattern or you're taking too long to kill them. Both of these are your fault.

>>183276468
>DS2 remake FUCKING WHEN
If they made one, I bet they'd just do the same lazy "lmao let's just improve the textures / models a bit, make the lighting better but don't make any actual substantial changes to levels, add stoned dudes everywhere to gate players' progress xD!"

>>183276842
If you're in the CoC, you aggro stuff a hell of a lot easier.
Makes the place a fuckfest.

>>183276885
That's a remaster though
>>183276908
>this will set you on the arduous path
literally asking for it

>>183276842
>aggro
That's the thing I've been telling you earlier, and which you seemed to have failed to notice. In SotFS the game throws a bunch of knights aggroing at you at the same time, without giving you an option to manage it to begin with. That's why this particular area got worse.

>>183276962
Just make a completely new game with the same trouble.

>>183276984
They all run at you at the same time, but from different distances. You can wipe the place clean and never be in direct confrontation with more than two at a time. When you have a knight in your face, one charging from 20 meters away and another from 40 meters away, those are all 1v1 encounters. Kill the knight in front of you, and move on to the next. The two across the bridge stagger to anything with a wide swing, and at most you need to poisetank a single hit between the two of them.

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>when some invader fucks you up so baldy that you question your right to exist

>>183277649
How do you take such nice-looking screenshots?

Doing a Pyro build with a fire weapon and having fire as more or less my only damage source is really fun.

>>183277840
Agreed. Until the demon princes. Fuck those things I had to rely on Gnawing instead of my sweet, precious fire flinging.

>>183277938
I'm doing it in 2 right now, plan to do it in 3 as well.
I imagine the Iron Keep will be a real shitshow.

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>>183277754
Doing it in the middle of a cut scene helps

>>183276053
you're wrong, try the charged R2 between one handed and two handed, you go almost halfway more with two hand

>>183278010
>did I leave the stove on?

>>183277938
As a pyro you can just cheese every boss with mercury if you need to.

>>183276338
Are you actually complaining that Gael's isn't strong enough? While still complaining about poise when we are currently in the poise meta?

Get that chemo ready, think I just got cancer.

>>183274461
>>183274532
>>183274576
>>183274701
Finally beat him with chaos fire orb. I tried using black flame/orb but the damage is relatively the same, but chaos' lava makes it deal better damage and makes him stagger faster.

>>183275329
Tomo-chan something, i forgot.

>>183279364
Getting shot down by mobs in full Gundyr's really sucks anon.

>>183279364
>poise meta
Maybe if your opponent is braindead. Meta is still bk shield with ss. And SA frames still start too late, you can stab the enemy with a dagger before he can tank it 9 times out of 10

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Got a couple of question for your video games savvy people
At what level should I expect people to be at +10/+5?
is 30/30 good enough for the Onyx blade?
It might be difficult considering how flexible the game is with leveling but is there some chart on what's the average level and weapon upgrade for each section of the game?

Assuming you've actually got stats in Fai/Int, is there any reason to use Fire Gems over Chaos?

>>183280694
no
never

>>183242292
Btw, are there any any events From is (possibly) attending any time soon?

>>183280926
Speak aloud, and ask. I'm sure some AC anon will be glad to answer. Or look for their general, they'll be glad to answer.

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Sif confirmed male

>>183280926
Most likely Tokyo Game Show

>>183279816
Face tanking in full havels while spamming r1 wasn't that challenging if you ask me, I prefer patched DaS3 poise.

>>183280161
>Meta is still bk shield with ss

No. Duel meta is big weapon (preferably with combo WA) and loads of poise armor.

Source: The fucking arena. You barely even see shields anymore. And not even straightswords honestly, outside RKSS and occasional faith build weapon buff.

>>183281014
Been known for a while, unless you believe epic miscarriage bro calling him her.

>>183280237
usually around 60-70. Basically, when they can get enough chunks because you get Siegward's slab before that. 30/30 is the softcap for fire/dark weapons but you want 40/40 if you focus on pyros
>>183281014
pretty sure the community manager isn't actually on the phone with miyazaki. All he does is post memes and "show your funniest face" type posts

>doing mlgs run
>completely forget about orbeck
>have to cheese yhorm with SR
>friede gets more damage from +4 bastard sword than +3 mlgs
fun times

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Can someone help me transfer a +2 sage ring to another character? SL 120 PC.

>>183266787
Consider it a win, man

What, you actually care about the ember/tongue? You don't already have them both maxed?

You won the invasion. Just because the game doesn't tell you that doesn't mean it isn't true.

I'm bored. How do I have fun?

>>183283092
Have sex while playing. Shits fun for both you and your girl.

>>183283297
>implying

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>>183283297
>3dpd

Why did they get rid of hexes? They were the best part of das2.

Both sorcery and miracles are more or less a joke in das3.

>>183284204
because miyazaki hates variety

>>183283023
Sure. Got an extra +3 life you can drop me? High wall bonfire, pass dsg?

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>Doing my first pyro run of DS2.
>Tfw using Firestorm against that multi-rat boss.

>>183284964
Yep, putting my sign down

>>183285572
Red, right?

>>183285862
No white, dragonslayer armor cosplay.

>>183285909
Bosses are both dead, if you don't have red go to lothric castle

>>183285990
Thanks man

>>183286386
No problem, saved me the time to go to ng++ too

I want to make an anti-meta character. I want to use all the least used things in the game. What should I focus on?
I'm thinking a quality/pyro build, so basically everything, dancer's twinblades, spells like way of white corona, firestorm, crystal hail, stuff like that. Any tips, ideas?

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Is this metal or edge?

>>183286918
>shades of metal don't match
It's garbage that's what it is.

>>183283537
I never once noticed that Rosabeth actually does have a forehead tattoo in-game. For a while, I just figured that artist was adding random shit to her.

>>183285359
Royal Rat Vanguard isn't even a proper "boss" fight. And next time try Dead Again.

Were the invasion formulas altered? I remember a while back that stopping at X6 was better because it invaded as far down as X5 but according to the wiki this is now true for X0 instead
>>183286918
This is mismatched colors

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>>183287246
>>183288571
The god damn lightning is too weird in this game, it was looking fine in Firelink

>>183283537
do 2d otakus fap to 1d waifus?

>>183288571
Matchmaking formula has been changed at least twice this year. Weapon level range (based on host) is +-1 up until around +6, at which point it becomes +-2 for the remainder. Level ranges were tweaked somewhat, including an entire bracket for SL351 and higher.

>>183289652
So I could go +8 and still match with +6? Nito

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What's a good weapon to make Dark that doesn't make PvE a pain in the ass?

>>183290106
Exile Greatsword

>>183289837
You could also match with +10

>>183290278
Curved Greatsword master race

>>183290106
LKS, AGS and Corvian Scythe all take very well to elemental infusions for some reason. You can also go for a Dark Dark Sword for shits and giggles.

>>183290278
>B/B scaling
Literally Carthus Curved is better, and so is Kumo.

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>>183290106
Any. Fear not the dark infusion, friend

>>183290708
>Dark Dark Sword
You mean Reinforced Dark Sword. DEEP DARK Sword is better for memes

>>183291224
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/224489
>

>>183290106
Gutsword is ~740 AR at 30/30/30.

Invaders are the biggest babies in the Souls community, always whining that the game isn't setup to help them ruin someone's experience.

>>183291598
>Describing "Invaders" as one entity
Kill yourself

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>>183291430
Welp. Seems to be a case where Wikidot fails where Kekxtra does not.

>>183291907
Wikidot looks like shit and has cancer Infos

>>183291907
Fucking hell, can we just get a wiki that isn't "smear shit on the walls" retarded?

>>183280926
>>183281004
Tokyo Game Show, Playstation Experience.

TGS is their secondary place to announce games after E3, though E3 has gotten more and more western-games-focused so it makes sense that they would go for TGS instead.

The next games up for release are:
>A reboot of a previous franchise
>A new dark fantasy game
>Something completely different

Additionally it was confirmed:
>A new armored core is in "early production", likely this is the reboot
>They plan to release a VR game
>They were hiring 2D/3D artists for a "dark fantasy" RPG back in May.

It's also likely:
>there will be no further bandai namco games
>there will be more Sony games
>Miyazaki has stated he wants to make an MMO previously

The biggest reason why they have been taking so long to reveal something is likely because they're still seeking a publisher for the international market, since they appear to be done with Bandai Namco.

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>>183291598
>having summons with estus, double the potential estus of the enemy, and 30% more HP isn't enough for me
>i also need to equip "way of the bitchnigga" and stack the odds even higher in my favor
>now its a fair fight :^)

>>183291598
Regardless of what you think of invaders, DaS3's current balance favors hosts far more than is fair for either side.

>you can pull in two (passworded) buttbuddies for free, who can already gang up on lone invaders or even non-territory pairs who still have to worry about friendly fire
>you can put on Way of Blue to call in two more to make it a 5v1 in the game where a maximum of 6 can be present in a host's world at a time
>if a buttbuddy dies, there's literally zero penalty for running back to spawn and summoning him again

About the only real concession invaders have gotten recently is that Seed is no longer permanent.

Does anyone have all the rings on ps4? My save file was fucked and I had to restart.

>>183291598
>invaders are there to ruin the experience
WRONG. They're there to enhance the experience and make pve somewhat different

>>183291598
Only reddit invaders. The lifespan of the game has progressed to the point where all the invaders who remain are masochists who care little for how much of a disadvantage they are operating under.

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Anyone stream sniping him today? He's live now

>>183292885
this. as an invader I dont really mind 1-2 phantoms on the hosts ass, but they shouldn't be surprised if I start using the area to my advantage. But fuck giant seeds, I have no idea why they thought that was a good idea on top of the pre-existing gankfaggotry.

>>183293142
Just don't stand right in the middle of mobs to use them as cover, that's asking for them to instantly gangrape you the second the host pops a Seed.

>wait 20-25 seconds after Seed activates, then find the biggest nearby mob (optimally, crowd of big mobs)
>aggro him, then run for the host and his buttbuddies
>roll through, then wait the 5 or so seconds needed for Seed to expire
>you now have the numerical advantage against the host and his buttbuddies thanks to the item that the host used

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>tfw brawling with an aldrich faithful and another red against 2 blues and a host with his buttbuddy
I wish every invasion was like this, that was fucking intense.

>>183293764
That's what arena 3v3s were originally intended to allow. It's just that nobody uses the arena for anything but duelfaggotry.

>>183292121
>>183291907
Wikidot is terrible for DS3

Use wikia for DS1
Wikidot for DS2
and Wikia or Fextra for DS3.

>>183294023
I go for 2v2s since it takes 10 minutes to get into a 3v3

>>183291598
This is mostly DS1 invaders who are angry that they don't have asymmetric pvp in their favor anymore.

Or DS2 invaders that keep using invasions as arena duels and are frustrated that 1v1 invasions don't exist anymore.

>>183293764
I really miss those red and alrich vs host and white/gold/blue team battles at pontif. I rarely get those now that I am sl 85 +10.

I heard those start up again at sl100-120. I don't want to go anything higher though; since I'll loose those good non-gank invasions at arch dragon peak, archives and kiln. I also get good balanced eventually matched(stat wise) red sign duels at pontif.

>>183294250
These fags are the worst. Stop hogging my invasion slot, assholes. Go leave a sign

>>183294250
Why do people act like phantoms and sunfags didn't have lightning and chaos weapons as well?