/parag/ - Paragon General

>change the entire card system
>make it shit
>keep the shitty recolors only via crates system
weeewwwwwww

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306571650504196096/337719182068023297/Paragon_V.42_Leak.pdf

from the end of last thread

WTF ARE THE DEVELOPERS DOING???

Now i have to learn how to play Smite, even though it's boring as fuck and i suck at it.

>>183324048
Shit, we hit bump limit and we didn't even realise. Good choice for OP, btw.

Fifth for new item and stat system being utter retarded shit.
Also please post your info for the new player list:
>ID
>platform
>timezone
>playing hours
>voice chat availability
>preferred roles
>any other info

>card that instantly kills people at 15% or below
HAHAHHA
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOOIIINNGGGG

PLEASE. PLEASE LEAVE PHASE AS IS IF IT MEANS NOT DOING THIS NEW SYSTEM. I love change I welcome it and love trying new things but Epic has no FUCKING CLUE I don't even think they play their own game.

>>183324608
>He didn't see Thanatos ult in Smite

>>183324220
>>183324349
I'm not ready to declare the game dead just yet.
All this really does is change things from a straight power meta to one based around what utility items you choose (assuming they don't fuck it up). It's like everyone will build like a support does now, except with fewer cards and focusing on areas other than defense and sustain.
Chin up, /parag/: there's every chance it might turn out for the best.
inb4 it all comes tumbling down

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>>183324608
>900 damage DoT for 75 mana

>>183324732
>putting an ult onto a basic item and 45 second cd

>>183324608
>>183324732
Seems like it would be useful for an assassin like Kallari who can track down someone in enemy territory as they try to back. The stats will probably be shit on the cards with really good abilities to balance them.

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>>183324906
AND THE CARD IS NOT EVEN UPGRADED YET!

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>>183325039
these stats dont look like shit anon

so i leave the general to play a couple matches and come back to a new thread and the game apparently being dead what did i miss

>>183324848
I mean, I've been shitting on Ebin for removing all original elements this game had since they've ditched dunking, but that's not exactly what I fucking meant. It might turn up well, I surely hope it will, but it will be a completely different game and not even fully a moba any more. Having only 3 cards will make it boring and how do they expect the players to play without potions and wards?

>>183324906
>have card that cleanses poison in my deck
>drop my ward to pay for it
>notice that enemy drops Nameless curse later when three fifths of the team built to counter them and it's no longer worth keeping
>go back to my ward
>they pick NC up again after they die
>I pick up my cleanse again after I back
>they don't realise that they've been neutered and either have to back or keep going with a useless card
I can see it working.

>>183325038
His ult kills everyone below fucking 40% or so on max level though

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>We did it Cam! We saved Paragon!

>>183325267
We don't know what the stats will be like man, chill. It's possible that these are all placeholder numbers, too: the contest said the Growing Strength passive gave 5 power + 50 health every minute for 15 minutes, but one of the Epic employees said on Reddit that those numbers weren't final. Even if they are: a slow-moving projectile seems like the kind of thing you need to coordinate a gank and stun for, and I'm sure that Execute can be countered with a burst heal like Quenching Scales or its equivalent.

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>>183325297
There are still potions in the game. Seems pretty useless though.

I'm so mad right now, I have queued for at least 5 games now and every one of them I either Dodged or people in them Dodged.


I wanna play the fuckin game

>>183325297
You can still play with potions and wards, but the hope is that they've balanced it to the point that having those is a real choice that comes with its pros and cons instead of just something you do mindlessly at the start of a game or when you're waiting to respawn. I could tell you from memory how my deck progression goes for all of my mains: there's no thought to it and there's never any variation to how I do it, it's just clicking the numbers until I hit 60.
I fully agree that there's every chance Epic are going to screw it up, and I do miss elements from Legacy as much as you, but I want to keep an open mind about this instead of labeling it DOA and bumming myself out.

>>183326004
Hop on a smurf and just play regardless of who picks what.

>>183325689
Who should we edit over Spongebob's face? Mooney or KL?

>>183326257
I've Dodged twice and I have a 20 minute ban now b/c some Kallari would refuse to go any other lane but offlane, and I was playing /ourboy/ so I Dodged b/c offlane Kallari a shit

>>183326391
>>183325689
replace spongebob with phase and make mooney and kl the people in the background running away

>>183326391
Whoever's face fits best I guess.

>>183326496
I'll sometimes let a Kallari offlane slide while I jungle Kwang if the enemy team comp is squishy or just kind of off-meta. A good Kallari is nice to have, but somehow people have a hard time understanding that she's a split-pushing assassin and not someone that jumps into teamfights as they're popping off.

>>183326567
No

>>183326567
Nah, their faces would be so tiny on the background characters that it would be a wasted effort. I do like the idea of Phase and Cam, though.

>le Reddit can't openly discuss the leaks because they'd probably get banned for it
lol

>>183325824
Where are you getting these? I'm not seeing them in the PDF.

>>183327226
Under 'Cards' there's some Imgur album links.

>>183327069
they are banning people for it, i went over to check to see if they had any more leaks i got
https://imgur.com/a/pnTUK
https://imgur.com/a/P1XPR
before the person posting them got banned and the threads he was making got deleted. epic doesn't want everyone to realize theyre fucking incompetent before they can hide behind the excuse of needing data

Ah cmon guys, we thought Zinx would be an unkillable Phase destroying god on release and now look at her.

Its not looking good but we'll just have to see...

>>183327327
Ah, I see now. Thanks. I'm also seeing that Kwang is considered an "easy" character in v42. Concerning.

>>183327763
phase is a better offlane than zinx. more sustain and with tainted 15x the damage

Make sure to save these pictures before Epic DMCA's them lads.

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>tfw you Started playing parag because friends refuse to play Smite.
>tfw you stop playing Smite and parag is your only moba meal of the day
>tfw parag becomes smite
>tfw friends won't play parag with you anymore.

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>>183324952
who dis

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>use phase ult
>use this card
>do it again
>kill any tower or inhib within 3 seconds with 1 monion under tower
who's ready for 10 second dekker cages and double countess ults brought to us by creative genuis cameron winston

>>183328247
>Paragon becomes Smite
I don't know, man: the fundamental gameplay is the same, the map can only get better than the boring tonka-truck funbox we have now, and the new system might not be shit. At the risk of sounding like a shill or a Reddit dicksucker, can we at least give it a week before we start pissing on the corpse?

>>183329015
>pair this with the card that restores 60% of missing hp and mana
>constantly reset cooldowns and nobody ever dies

https://www.reddit.com/r/paragon/comments/6ok9z6/cardsgems_skins_leak/dki0mpx/
they're already damage controlling

>>183329015
You're talking like no one on Epic's test team has thought to do this. Do you really think something that obviously broken would make it to release? Even Epic aren't that incompetent, memes aside.

>>183329628
you forgot the picture

>>183329015
>2x the cooldown of the reset ability
At least there's that, though i think the card should cost more mana than that, like maybe max instead of current mana, or +/- half of current mana

Also, we don't know if it will work for ultimates

>>183329015
Does this count on ults as well though? Because if it does, it will be fucking broken on half of characters. Hell, Greystone will become LITERALLY unkillable as long as he has enough mana left.

I don't hate smite, but I know how many people in the parag community do. So when parag becomes even more like smite I dont see that as abhorrent necessarily, but I see how the people that introduced me to parag come to hate it.

>>183330048
How would that make it more like Smite though? They're moving even further away from a traditional moba item system.

>>183330048
ive never played smite or any other moba and i think these changes sound fucking awful

>>183329565
All I care about is that the P2W stuff has been debunked. Weird that they'd offer it for PvE, but as long as it doesn't infect the PvP I'm happy.

>>183328924
Not sure if you are serious anon, but you've been tricked by your own eyes.

It's not real, it's just painted. Take a closer look.

>>183330460
i can see it's not a real person, i was asking which character it is

>>183330164
Why? From what we've heard, the numbers are more than likely placeholder values. The max number of cards being three sounds restrictive, but we don't know how they're going to work yet. The only thing that bugs me is leveling cards with rep, but that's basically like buying card packs with rep and getting more upgrade cards, so whatever. Again, can we stop freaking the fuck out as if we know for a fact that it's all gone to shit? I don't want to spend the next three weeks in here if it's going to be non-stop doom and gloom about how you're all going to stop playing.

>>183330460
>deleted
Do mods actually pay attention to us, or was some janitor browsing page one like a freak and just caught us with our pants down?

>>183330627
Ohhh.

It's Shimakaze.

>>183330798
card effects seem overpowered and the restriction to 3 at a time is dumb as fuck. not even trying to be doom and gloom im hyped for the update and willing to try it but you cant act like epic has given us reason to think they know what they're doing

>>183331015
I deleted it on my own because i was afraid of the mods.

Jk, i deleted it because it was the exact same image with same resolution as the one he quoted, it was just only the left image alone.

>60 posts in one and a half hour
Cam might have ruined Paragon, but he surely made /parag/ great again

>>183331558
If the cards go ahead with the numbers and effects they have now, and if the current values aren't brought up to keep the cards from being OP, then we'll have a problem. I just find it pretty hard to believe that Epic haven't spotted some of the potential for extremely broken shit in the months they've been testing the game if we can come up with a few in under an hour, so I have faith that they have measures in place to prevent the most obviously exploitable interactions. Anything they miss will probably be fixed in subsequent patches (they backpedalled hard on that ridiculous buff to Orb Prime that time, after all). I fully expect them to fuck up and drop the ball somewhere, because they've set a precedent for bungling some things that other devs would have handled immediately or just never have let out the door, but as long as the same basic gameplay is the same I'll be happy.

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Check this out for example: if I'm reading this right, you need to hit enemy heroes 50 times before a 6 second cooldown after your last hit expires in order to get the buff: there's no way that's the final number, no one would ever get it. You'd need to be hanging out at the enemy spawn shooting them off a conveyor belt to make that work.

>>183333639
I think the stacks are permanent, kinda like Sev's passive.

>>183333639
Anon, i think you are getting that wrong

>you hit an enemy
>you have 1 stack
>6 seconds cooldown
>hits during that time don't count
>after that your first hit counts again
>then again a cooldown
>max limit is 50 stacks

That's at least how i understand the description.

>>183334167
>>183334076
That does make way more sense, guess I'm an idiot.

>>183332480
It's nearly turned us into a real general.

>>183332884
see the problem with this is that the game is now post phase release, and not only is it post phase release its post phase release and them still adamantly saying shes not OP 2 months after that. that alone has destroyed what little i thought of their ability to have any idea of what they're doing

>>183335846
You have to imagine she's being brought in line with other supports for this release, either through the card system itself, mana costs and ability durations or, less likely, a kit change. I don't think I've ever heard them comment on her once desu, either positively or negatively, which gives me hope that they're working on her but know that she's going to stay broken as fuck until the update and don't want to piss people off by actually saying it.

Actual G here.

The new card system sounds cool. It means the cards will have to be much more unique and impactful than the stat buckets they are now, plus building stats via the three trees sounds much more intuitive than having to whip out a calculator and do the dickery with upgrades. It also means we might not see a shadow ward and blink on every single build, which is great.

>>183331558

When everything seems OP, that's actually good game design.

All right, let's see if we understand this:
>three attributes to level
>cap of seven levels that can be distributed across the attributes in any ratio
>level cap in game is now 25(?)
>your attributes each can hold five gems that provide stat or gameplay bonuses
>gems can activate at certain level thresholds, just like unlocking abilities (eg your ult at 5, 9 and 13)
>gems are found in chests
>you can skip a gem on the attribute level tree (unlike, say, FFX's Sphere Grid)
>cards are utility items that can also provide straight stat increases; presumably, the better the stats, the weaker the card effect, and vice versa
Is that everything? Because I kind of like it. The economy and base game speed might still turn out to be absolutely shit, and the possibility remains that the meta will devolve to the same few cards and gems/ affinities for a given hero, but on the face of things this seems pretty good.

>>183338696
We don't need to know whenever you grace us with your presence fgt. I would be just as willing to consider your post if you didn't announce yourself like an attention whore, probably even moreso.

>>183339591

You wouldn't even be discussing this game if not for me and my threads.

Don't dignify it with a (you), fellows.

>>183324581
Cheshh
PC
GMT-5(CT)
8-1300, 1900-2300
Discord/TS. Not a super chatty dude though
Anything but mid, really. JG main and was learning off before furry bitch.
This account is low diamond but cheshhh is silver alt. I am actually pretty shit so I don't know how I ended up in diamond.

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How good is this game gameplay wise?

So let me get this right. Are we able to permanently increase the effectiveness of a card from outside of a game with currency accrued over multiple games? If so what the literal shit is this pay to win(if these upgrades can be bought with coins), or simply new player punishment, bullshit? Please tell me I am retarded and this upgrading thing is done in game with the in-match-earned farm.

I just had something magical happen, does deck building just like, click, for anyone else? I just decided to build a deck for grux out of the blue and it's insane, so I started just making decks, and they all work beautifully.


Too bad they are reworking the system in like, a month.

>>183342098
S'alright. Basic moba game loop but a bit more action-y and with some hero verticality and map elevation. Things are going to be shaken up pretty hard in a few weeks, but the heroes will play basically the same as they do now.

>>183342384
They addressed it on Reddit, said that only counted for PvE. Still greedy monetisation, but they're pretty adamant that it's not going to affect PvP.

>>183342451
Just means you understand basic math and know the cards and heroes well enough to know what you want to do. Bad luck on the timing though, chum.

>>183343164
Thank god. I want to call bullshit and say that was epic damage control trying to avoid the p2w witchhunt but if they are expanding pve content I can see upgrading cards being interesting. I don't agree with placing them in coop vs ai games however as it will confuse new players why their awesome card they practiced in bots with is much worse in game.

Anyone else checking out Fortnite tomorrow?

>>183344152
>I want to call bullshit and say that was epic damage control
That's how I've been feeling too, but the main Epic guy that does all the talking in Reddit has gone on record saying they're not going P2W, so I'm going to take that at face value. Epic have to know that pay to win would completely destroy this game before it even left beta.

>>183345048
I keep seeing it pop up, but I don't really know anything about it. Some kind of L4D style co-op game? Seems charming enough.

Some of these knowledge cards look a little nuts. Particularly black ice routine. It is like a mini kwang ult. Hide is also funny and maybe pretty fucking scary if the stealth remains after you move again.

>>183345048
i'll wait for it to actually be f2p next year

I just realized it's called Fortnite because it comes out TWO WEEKS before the Paragon update.

>>183345213
yeah theres no reason to not believe him, ebin is stupid when it concerns things like balancing or loot crates but even they know making the pvp pay2win would destroy this game overnight.
im kind of excited to see what pve content they have i hope you get to play out some event in the characters backstories or somethingi just really want more mommy related content see seems to be a very important character along with sev

>>183345484
I stopped reading them because I don't want to be completely spoiled. Maybe that's a bad idea, because plenty of people are probably studying them all hard right now.

>>183346048
Never thought about the PvE stuff, just figured it would be boring objective-based stuff like the tutorial. If Epic were ever going to go the extra mile and create new assets for a story mode game, I'd love to play as Steel dropping on a target from a spaceship hangar in orbit like in his ability description. That would probably be too much effort though.

>>183346236
People are gonna have a good idea on decks as soon as its out theres not much to gain by not reading them. Plus I'm sure Epic is going to do a closed trial version of the update that they give out to specific people just like they did when they switched to Monolith. In fact they're most likely doing it right now.

>>183346236
It is a bit of a shit shoot because all of these are subject to change but I'm trying to figure out the broken shit for launch. That way /parag/ can troll the fuck out of pubs.

>Group Stasis
how do you guys feel about this shit? I honestly can't tell if this is game breaking or useless.

>>183346971
>>183346850
You gents have me convinced: can't afford to fall behind before the race even begins.
>group stasis
What the fuck

>>183346971
game breaking in a 5 stack, and actually a detriment in pubs, can't wait for a support to panic pop it and disable 2 ults from their own team

heres all the leaks(?) for anyone who wants everything in one place
https://imgur.com/a/8wXTi
https://imgur.com/a/pnTUK
https://imgur.com/a/tApNO
https://imgur.com/a/olB10
https://imgur.com/a/P1XPR
https://imgur.com/a/ATJ42
https://imgur.com/a/vkLFh
https://imgur.com/a/neQKb
https://imgur.com/a/jDBJp
https://imgur.com/a/znAIP

>>183347852
These cards seem much more dynamic than the old ones.

>toxic horde
Alright, so let us assume this piece of shit doesn't effect raptors and orb. This allows you to punish good lane discipline every 60 sec. Like, really fucking punish the enemy properly setting a lane. Just turn the whole fucking megawave around when they get to your tier 2/inhib and watch an absolute SS unit sweep a fucking tower. You thought monkey split was bad I don't think shitters will be able to deal with a backdoor opwave. It doesn't even take a 4v5 to split anymore. Thoughts? I could see pcl games of wave bouncing with this card.

>>183347852
>ice blast
Oh shit Aurora picked right the fuck back up
>Echelon soilder
on kallari,wraith or ANY jungler holy fuck


this shit is so weird I wonder what the scalling will be like, most of these cards are straight up giving abilities that already exist

>WHEN EVERYONE IS OP NO ONE IS
they might've went the correct route on balacing just make everyone OP, rev with OPD militia will basically have extra dmg on all his shots not just the final, hell Murdock can be Rev now for 20 mana a shot and the card give 160

this is insane.

>>183349260
wait until you get to the death cards

>>183349352
I just got here. W-what the fuck.
>creeping death
hahahahaha this is what exe's ult should have been
>toxin
Jesus fucking christ
>pestilence
Is that fucking ciri?
>horde
So corruption on every support just for this
>plague lord
another support staple or maybe off and also stupendously broken
>shadow dancer
Kallari just got cucked and sneaky sev is gonna be fun af
>sac link
might be fun on lynx
>sac magic
again, wonder how this works with lynx

Wow.

>>183347852
Much obliged chief

Yo, is it just me or is there no longer crit?

>>183324048
Will we be seeing a flood of redditfags coming in to /parag/ since thru likely can't openly discuss the cards there, or will they just retreat into a Discord or something? or have they been here all along?

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>>183350247
crit is part of the attribute system now. i assume its so they can limit the amount of it you can obtain so you can't run those 100% crit builds.

community corner tomorrow if i'm not mistaken

>>183350247
Check page 12 of the pdf and zoom in: there's an Agility attribute gem that unlocks at level 25 called Critical Hits.
A 15% chance to deal 75% damage, which is...different.
Maybe those aren't final numbers, and maybe they are. Maybe rarer gems have better crit ratios, but right now all we can say for sure is that it's still in there, it's apparently just limited to high level gems.

>>183349979
>Finder of Playthings
JESUS FUCK, imagine this shit on kallari, assuming kits don't change much she will be able to have 6s vision, proc this shit slow someone down, pop ult slow them down FURTHER and teleport to them

fuck! the anon that doesn't want to be spoiled fuck that shit start theory crafting NOW! other anons will be ahead and raping DAY 0 because of these "spoilers"

>>183350681
There's also a blog post about the new mastery system, which will make for some interesting reading.

>>183350681
id say its easily gonna be the most interesting one yet. having had time to really think about it though im looking forward to the update. 3 cards sounds strange when you first think about it, but we're already limited to 4 actives with 1 almost always being a ward and then stat dump cards. moving the stat dumps into their own system so the cards can be more impactful sounds really nice.

>>183350843
Exciting stuff man. I'm going to bed, but I want a full report on what you've found first thing in the afternoon or you'll be sucking dicks in the alley to make rent.

>>183350681
Gonna be so much damage control by KL

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>>183347852
im scared they're gonna completely rework sparrow, her entire kit seems to be in the agility gems now

>>183353297
She's been pretty consistent since Legacy, I don't see it happening desu. Hail of Arrows might get altered, but that's it.

Just started, is it just me or does Dekker's Q have a really weird hitbox? It seems if I blow it up on slanted terrain the actual hitbox is smaller than the graphic. Or am I just experiencing some server sync issues?

>>183334393
>>183333639
wew lad

>>183355954
Not just you, Dekkers stun bomb being glitched is probably the oldest issue the game has. Epic has tried to fix it multiple times but it still just flat out won't work around 20% of the time and no one knows why

>>183356372
>Give only one support to beginners
>1/3 of her kit is bugged and has a bit of learning pains
Even Icefraud wasn't this bad.

I need a mommy deck except it needs to be smurf friendly cause I don't have many cards on this one

>>183356972
Even with the glitch she was the best support in the game until Phase, plus you unlock a ton of characters day 4. The fucking timegating thing is so goddamn stupid and is just going to to drive people away from the game though.

>>183357121
Riftmagus and whatever lifesteal cards you have I guess. Outside of Stasis or Hemorrhage carries dont ever build much besides max stats so you dont need a bunch of cards

>>183341021

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good night /parag/ fun times and big changes on the horizon and we're getting active enough to where i probably dont even need to mommy bump anymore

>>183357519
3+ Riftmagus? No whirling wands?

>>183357519
I can't wrap my head around their thought process. I can't even unlock a character early, if I want to spam 30 games and get Phase because she's in every fucking game I'm cockblocked by the time release. Even worse is the current card system, somehow it's worse than LoL's runes in making new players suffer just because they haven't played much. I can't even compete as a regular support because I'm missing shit like Honor the Pure, so many games were gimped because I lacked the right phials.
Doesn't help that there is no explanation for any of this shit in game, I have to go to outside sources to even get an idea of how the deck system works and balancing base/upgrade cards. It's like they asked themselves "what's the most unintuitive way to implement an item system that just shits on anyone starting the game and makes smurfing even more unbalanced."

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Can someone tell me why Shinbi is shit? I play her but I also see people lvl Circle Rhythm over her double dash? The double dash does far more damage and I know it leaves her without an escape but I see her as an all in champ. Plus its cd is fairly decent so by the time I kill it's usually up.

>>183359539
Really up to you if you want more crit or speed

>>183360486
> I can't even unlock a character early
you can actually if you buy their mastery, doesnt make the timegating any less stupid though since 75k is a lot of rep for a new player

>>183361595
>if you buy their mastery
Well fuck, that would have been really nice to know. It's good that the game states this very clearly and it isn't ambiguous at all.

>>183339774
Wow, guess we should suck your dick huh? You killed the fucking threads before and these new series of /parag/ threads have nothing to do with you.

>>183361007
I level circle rhythm and line tempo first, leave the dash for the end. I guess it may be because I play Shinbi as jungler so I need the sustainability that circle rhythm provides and use line tempo as last hitter, poker, or wolf stacker

>>183361964

I play her mid and off and I use the line tempo first for poke and damage, 1 point into circle rhythm for stacking and double dash is my second highest lvl. What's with the Shinbi is bad thing though?

>>183362816
I level circle first then the line and then the dash. Mostly because I prefer using the dash as an escape

>run in
>circle
>AA while spamming wolves
>dash out and ult if they survive

So far in silver am ruling but I think its mostly because of all the PS4 shitters who cant hit a melee attack.

>>183358229
Just woke up, will add you as soon as I'll sit to the computer man

>>183361007
she's shit
let's say you do get a kill, you're worthless
most other assassin characters still have pretty good basics or non mana draining moves to keep the pace up.

Shinbi gets lucky and gets a kill she's useless

her wave clear is shit
and dmg is shit after she ults

kallari get's a kill she still has high dmg basics
Morigesh gets a kill she still has her dot
Khai gets a kill he still has uleash/regen/ambush
Countess gets a kill she has dark tide for wave clear
etc.

also line tempo is slow as fuck and easy to dodge, also Belica is meta good luck getting any of that shit near her in drone field

Shinbi is shit

>>183367172
Ahhh ok. I get it because of her heavy reliance on her ult she become useless. I thought this was normal to mages in mobas so it didn't really affect me. Usually after ult, with line tempo, double dash for heavy damage its usually enough to make people think twice but I have had to make the decision to wait on my ult before I battle leading me to ignore some teamfights as the cd would still be close to 50 seconds away after i just toasted a mid.

>>183361935

Promote the game half as much as I have, then you can talk shit.

I didn't kill the old threads either. Some third-world subhumans who preferred clicker MOBAs and unironically played Paragon on Low settings did.

Meanwhile these general threads have completely lost the plot and don't even mention the major selling point of the game anywhere. The game even fucking has Ansel now and people take screenshots without it. It's hopeless.

>>183370068
if its a general, don't most people already know the selling point, that's why were all in this thread? I don't want to promote the game I want to TALK ABOUT IT.

>>183370068
epic pls go, you tried to do something kinda different but no one was interested.

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What is this feeling...
Is it anxious excitement, or a worrying curiosity?

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>3 loot crates
>2 diamond chests
>2 gold chests
>14k rep
>600 coins
>22 hero masteries
Who else /doomsday prep/ here?
Hope I can hit August 8th on the ground running

Won't all these overpowered actives and gems make the beginning of the game even shittier for new players who don't have them yet?

>>183378854
I guess we'll find out.

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This card will be great on Bellica, shame that it boosts energy armour instead of something more useful.

>>183378854
They really hate new players.

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>>183380362
>shame that it boosts energy armour instead of something more useful
I imagine that this is how the game will be balanced now. You can get great effects that can sync well with your heroe's kit or build into your stats, but doing one will weaken the other.

>>183380707
Didn't mean to add that picture, but whatever. I hope Kwang being listed as "Easy" doesn't mean they've gutted him and made him a Greystone.

>>183378448
I have 40 card packs but I'm not sure if the conversion to Veteran chests will include unopened packs or just the cards that are currently in my inventory.

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Reactive Spells seems like it would be great on Countess.

>>183370068
You're not promoting the game when you're spouting so many "actual graphics" threads on /v/ that mods have to filter those words out.
You're fucking delusional.

>>183382761
If no one asked on twitter or leddit I'd take a screen shot of what you've got like a day or 2 before and if you have less "value" than when everything transfers over, ask ebin support for compensation
>inb4 compensation for a f2p game
A customer's time has value and can be measured in worth. How exactly? Shit man idunno

>Red Zone
That's going to be a nightmare in solo queue, holy shit.

>>183386554
>take a screenshot
Good idea, thanks.

>>183386397
Don't
Provoke
The Autist
And yes, he is fucking delusional, to the point where I'm seriously surprised it's even possible. Poking him will result in nothing except for shitting up the thread, so just ignore him.

>>183387058
That and the team stasis

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>Cull The Weak + Improved Last Hits + Wealthy on Wukong
>instant wave clear and a ton of easy extra gold

>>183387571
>Finder of Playthings + Grinning Spectre Kallari
>Riot Sapper Belica
This shit's going to be good.

>>183387571
>no actual potential besides being really good at split pushing

>>183388959
so wukong

>>183389093
Beat me to it. Those cards will boost what he's already meant to be excelling at: better farming and splitting. Drop the gold boosts for attack speed or whatever once you're good and farmed and then your split game becomes even better. Hell, throw the movement boosts on him for even better evasion:
>cloudwalker + right click jump + 320 extra base movement speed

>Death/Knowledge Grey
>Pestilliance Withering Shadow Echodrive
>Dive team use the two death cards hack until you die, use Echodrive, die again, keep hacking away until you finally die for real.
I hope these interactions are as broken as they seem I've always liked the "Nothing is OP if everything is" style

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those guys asking for a brown qt still around?

>>183393621
Gadget isn't cute though.

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>>183393621
>gyaru dekker
JESUS CHRIST
THEY'VE REALLY WENT AND DID IT
ABSOLUTE MADMEN
EBIN ARE MADMEN I TELL YA

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I gotta say boys I'm really liking these card redesigns. As one anon said when everything is busted nothing is. I welcome these changes and the era of actual distinct builds. I'm sick of stacking edges, madstones, scrolls, etc.

I just want them to hurry up with the voice acting update

>>183394734
>>183394879
https://imgur.com/a/MppHU
full album, these are apparently the new mastery skins. some like belica and sparrow are trash and twins is just his defualt with some extra lines on it but im digging the khai, kwang and mommy skins. even shinbi's is nice

>>183395424
So give or take 85% of them look like complete trash. I'm not excited.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YXE6xAzKXk

>>183395631
thats basically the skin system in this game. im loking forward to the banners more so i can litter the battlefield with pictures of my waifu

I just started playing this today what is the best waifu to one pony trick?

>>183395803
wow cam got a makeover

>>183395926
You have three good choices Belica, Sparrow or Serath. You can easily carry games with the latter. It's a little tougher with Belica but it's possible.

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>>183395424
>Iron Man Muriel
>Blue and White Crunch
>Orange-ish Belica
>Neon Blue Sevarog
>Rave Countess
>Red Dekker
>Iron Man Howitzer
>gyaru dekker
>Guerrilla Khaimera
>Narbash and Morigesh matching honeymoon colors
Oh baby

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>About every two hours you will level up with the new mastery system

Why wasn't this in place originally?

I will leave as soon as the new update comes.

>>183397042
I will come as soon as you leave

Instead of making rep more useful they just make you spend more of it, LMFAO.

>>183397119
Then i better don't leave.

>>183395424
Most of them are hideous, they look as if they've just clicked "randomise colour"

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/mastery-rework-and-progression-changes

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/mastery-rework-and-progression-changes
they're getting rid of the fucking timegating and going back to unlocking heroes by account level thank god

we back to being dead again?

>>183399124
>>183399080
Good stuff.

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>>183396050
I almost believed you looking at the thumbnail, but it would take more than a week to shift that chub. A better haircut/ just shaving it all off would help the man out though.

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>Roughly 2,000 folks are going to fall at the new Account level cap, congrats you over achievers!
I have 1,215 games overall since Legacy: wonder if I'll be one of the sad bastards that starts at cap?

>>183397490
>rep now has a use commensurate with the rewards it provides
>also has unannounced applications that they're keeping quiet about
LMFAO

>>183401779
Looks like it.

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>get into team fight
>Wraith teleports enemies around
Why do scrubs do this

>>183409479
shitters have this very strange mentality where they think they have to use every ability they have if they're trying to kill someone. like those bronze greystones who use the jump when they're standing right next to someone

>>183407710
sure does

>>183412582
What gives? Were all the /parag/ Chads invited to a party this weekend?

Grux is fantastic. Never realised that.

Actually i did, because he was my first main, but that's almost a year ago

I think he is my new main.

>>183414386
I like him well enough, but he's extremely squishy early game.

>>183414953
Most junglers are m8

>>183415161
Moreso with Grux, I feel. Probably his lack of built-in lifesteal like Khai and Kwang. If I see a Khaimera anywhere in my vicinity early game, I get to the nearest tower. With Grux, I always feel like I'd be able to take him if I initiated and juked around a bit.

>>183415705
I main Belica and Grux fucks my ass early game.

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>in the off lane as Wukong
>Phase and Murdock on the opposing side
>Murdock and Phase can peg away at me while I am defending with no repercussions whatsoever
Who thought this was good balancing? Who thought this was fair? The only thing I can do is use SoL to push them out, and they only get pushed 2 feet

>>183415889
Guess I'm just used to playing offlane and ranged ADC: if I can avoid his Smash and Grab and get a couple of hits in before he starts to hit me proper, I feel I can take him. Khai's leap puts him at an immediate advantage because he gets regen stacks from landing it, and he damages and slows you at the same time. Just by hitting you with his leap, Khai puts you on the backfoot one on one. Grux's lack of sustain and Double Pain being comparatively weak versus Unleash at level one means I'll always fear Khaimera more. Also: the Khaimera mentality is "all in, one of us isn't getting out of this", but a Grux would be less inclined to keep hacking away at a losing fight than a Khai (whose regen might just save them at a sliver of hp), and if they turn to run, a ranger will have a brief window to close it out.

>>183416042
You're only now just realising what a shit-show Phase has made of the offlane? Where have you been for the past month and a half?

>>183416042
welcome to two months ago

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>>183416630
>>183416609
I main Wukong. I usually jungle or get pushed into safe lane.

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>draft
>someone insta-locks Morigesh, then asks
>"Hi. Do you have any advice for Mori?"
>dodge

>>183417251
I'm not trying to be a cunt here, m8, but jungle Wukong is a terrible idea before level 5. He's too damned fragile to effectively clear camps, and his gank potential is low. His slow and staff displacement are a step up from something dumb like jungle Yin or Greystone, but it's still a bad pick.

>>183416630
Every time I mention the pure lack of counter play when it comes to phase all i hear in the community is counter pick Aurora, or of course git gud. Is this just as bad as the LoL community?

>>183420319
anyone telling you to do either of those are epic dicksuckers, everyone knows shes broken and aurora is a garbage character

>>183420319
i guess?
there's really nothing that can be done other than hoping everything settles down by august 8th, and what's REALLY frustrating is that they made sure subsequent heroes were toned down in terms of teamfight impact
we're probably in the darkest timeline where we'll have to deal with phase being the only support for 6 months, or maybe FOREVER

>>183417676
Oh, I'm well aware of this. I like to help out left lane until level 5, but usually they get asspained and yell at me.

>>183420782
>>>
> Anonymous 07/21/17(Fri)17:26:29 No.183421000▶
>>>183417676
>Oh, I'm well aware of this. I like to help out left lane until level 5, but usually they get asspained and yell at me.

Yes because your lowering their lvl. The offlane needs to lvl faster than the opponents so when they reach lvl 5 they can either dive the duo and crush them or hold the lane. (Even though paragon make it seem like the offlane tower MUST fall before 10 minutes.)

>>183421000
You're not 'helping' left lane, you're stealing their XP and putting your team at a CXP disadvantage.

>>183421000
not only are you leeching xp from somebody who needs as much of it as possible, you're also not getting the amber link active which is your fucking job

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>tfw we can't place harvesters anymore
>tfw we can't destroy harvesters anymore
>the jungle is tiny
>the map is tiny
>no more sprinting
WHY

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>hmm been away from Paragon for awhile wonder whats new
>check characters
>some emo chick
>edgelord mcgunslinger
>some literal who cyber solider
>wukong #58
>a fucking furry
>monolith is still the same canercous 2v1 setup
I had high hopes for this game
I really did

>>183422162
Wukong is the most refreshing of those characters, because Chinese mythology is god-tier

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>enemy Khaimera is building full tank
>Madspore Sash with all 4 point guards
>Adamant Edges filled entirely with health
>a pain to kill but does no damage at all
>late game, I have a full Tuned Barrier and Bloodsoaked as Kwang
>he jumps, I shock him, he ults
>I can't even register the damage on my health bar
A lesson to be taken there, lads: full tank is less than useless without some power to back it up. Made a bitch of him after he dove behind my offlane tower in the first ten minutes with green buff.

>>183422101
Travel mode will return in V42 in the form of some new cards.

>>183422964
Exactly, if you have no damage, people are just gonna ignore you.

>>183422964
His ult is only useful for damage early on, its primary purpose lategame is to break up the enemy team so the damage dealers can focus someone. If he's trying to solo you he has no idea what he's doing.

>>183423540
>>183423464
It was pretty funny, considering how bad his early gank put the fear in me.
>"shit, this guy knows what he's doing"
>15 minutes later
>"oh wait, never mind"

>>183422345
wraith and wukong are both fun as fuck its a shame they got sandwiched in between the game destroying whore and furbitch

>>183395424
Digging that Rev skin. Hopefully it also changes the color of his abilities to match.

>>183425290
I don't know, seems like it would be an easy thing to change, but they didn't do it for Chrono Boss, and that's apparently a T2 skin.

The weekend is upon us, boyos: the time when the bush and mommy posters throw on their tight leather jackets and buy their cheap beer before getting wasted and waking up in bed with multiple women.
Being a normalfag must be suffering, but nothing compares to the /parag/ weekend graveyard shift.

>>183404583
I'm there with ya

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Where are yall getting all these card screen caps n shit?

Was there a dev post i missed?

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>>183430172
>nothing compares to the /parag/ weekend graveyard shift.
Clocking in doc'
I've got chests to upgrade and r34 to look at
Wishing us luck

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306571650504196096/337719182068023297/Paragon_V.42_Leak.pdf
There are links to imgur albums with the cards and stuff at the start of the PDF.

>>183432669
Good man, I'll see if I can't scare up some /parag/ exclusive 34 for your trouble one day soon.

>>183430172
im here and have mommys ready and waiting to bump with

>>183422101
how long have you been gone?

dude you're not even ready for all the changes

more importantly:
>black buff is no longer DoT to towers
>killing someone with a buff no longer drops it
>it's easier to kill OP solo
>no longer have to dunk OP
>no more interupting someones max speed so it's easier for people to run away

>>183392610
That's what I said earlier their attempt at "wash it now fix it later" to the legacy characters has been a pain in the ass but with the new cards literally everyone has the potential to be super OP compared to how they are now so it makes every character viable.

Maybe this was their plan all along for v42, or maybe it's an onversight and they'll end up nerfing a bunch of this shit by the 1st month post v42.

This patch will really show if the dev team is learning and doing research on other mobas or if they're retarded as fuck with no clue what so ever they're doing.

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>>183392610
>>183387786
>>183387571
>>183380362
MORE I WANT MORE THEORY CRAFTING


all of those idiots that don't want spoilers will be getting rapped by /parag/ because we put in two weeks worth of theory craft even Slyphin will shit himself.

>>183434670
Taking all bets, ladies and gentlemen.

>>183432492

>>183324301
There you go

>>183324301
>>183324220
>>183324848
So wait how the fuck will equipping the cards actually work now?

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>>183435148
Reactive Spells and Amplify Aura Intellect Gems on Countess, with Mallenk Gnasher (Growth) and Atomic Soldier (Knowledge). There might be stronger combos of this idea, but you're basically maximising the fuck out of your ability burst.

>>183436215
The stat cards and CXP system have been more or less replaced by the attribute system. You buy attributes with gold, which is how you level up stats and its also how you equip cards. For example >>183380362 that card would require you build 2 points of Vit and 5 of Int before you can use it

>>183436215
You pick two affinities when creating your deck, and select a minimum of three/ maximum of twelve cards to put in the deck. Your stat gain is split between Attributes (Agility, Vitality, Intellect) and the cards in your deck. I think cards can be equipped by reaching a certain level in the corresponding attributes (the level one Knowledge card "Advanced Evolution" requires you to upgrade the Intellect attribute once), whereas other cards require you to spend the currency you earn through the course of a match to equip them (eg the "Accelerator" Knowledge card), just like the cxp we have now.

>>183387786
Adding the Trapper card to the Kallari combo: ult to a lone target that isn't a fighter/ tank and they're done for if they don't get into a tower immediately.

>>183435148
one thing that people seem to be ignoring is that wards are order only. they really werent joking when they said wraith and kal are getting huge buffs

>>183436925
I find it funny how new players say how hard to card system is to understand and then they go and do this shit

splitting increasing them between attributes AND currency was a dumb idea

>>183438954
you dont increase the cards with anything, the stats on them are static. you just have to reach a certain level on the attributes to actually equip them, or on certain cards have enough gold to just buy them outright

Would mommy fuck me with a strap on?

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Okay, /parag/ gregors, how will v.42 change the game for the better? I need a good reason to reinstall.

>>183439701
>implying she doesn't grow a giant futa cock in her ult form

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>>183439731
hopefully build and hero diversity up and less copy paste decks for every role, other than that ask again in a few weeks its not like anyone here has actually played it.
>>183439701
mommy isn't that kind of mommy you want aurora for that

>>183440219
Futa are lame
>>183440258
>mommy isn't that kind of mommy you want aurora for that
I don't want an icicle in my pussy

So will v42 actually fix Zinx or is she doomed to be shit?

>>183439731
>I need a good reason to reinstall.
There is none.

I will delete it, too.

Fun game ruined by shit developers.

>>183440778
But anon she's pretty good.
in dirt elo

>>183440778
>or is she doomed to be shit?
I hope so, nobody needs a furry with the ugliest design in the game. Even uglier than Shinbis.

>>183440778
she needs her numbers cranked up a TON. i don't think there's any hope for her with a launch as terrible as it was

>>183440778
i really cant envision many scenarios where a ranged tank with no damage is valuable no matter what the card system is

>>183437917
>tfw can finally realise my dream of being a Kallari main
She's a great character that just never easily fit in this version of Monolith.

>>183440605
LONDON
O
N
D
O
N

>>183440791
>Fun game ruined by shit developers.
WAR

WAR NEVER CHANGES

>Video has been recorded and sent to Epic
When will the empty threats end?

>>183441982
They clearly mean boipucci, anon.

>>183442009
I don't know: this could be the best thing tho happen to the game. We're not getting Legacy back, but this could very well be a step up from vanilla Monolith.

>>183442272
i hated all the changes when i first read them, but after a day of thinking it over im actually really looking forward too it. and even if they fuck everything up ill just play the the brawler mode they're adding because deleting people as countess or sniping people through walls as bushbae never gets old

>>183442272
It's true what they said about Legacy. It's the Ridley of maps.

>die
>30 seconds runback to 50 yard line

>>183438954
That actually sounds much more clear and simple than the old system.

>>183441065
That's what I mean. She's just 'meh'.

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>try out my smurf at base Elo late at night when the matchmaking is at its absolute worst
>our Greystone goes safelane, our Twin goes mid with Morigesh
>I'm offlane Dekker apparently
>good thing I build crit
>entire team starts to feed immediately
>enemy Shinbi is making sport of them
>enemy Wukong is splitting to our inhib early
>fuck Wukong up, save the inhib and send him running
>stasis bomb in the back finishes him
>Wukong d/c's
>get a few more kills here and there completely unaided
>Shinbi has had enough of me, but every time she tries to come after me at low health I stun her under tower and kill her
>after she dies to a crit Dekker for the third time in a row she abandons her 14 kills to stay at base AFK
>meanwhile our Greystone splitpushes and we get two inhibs despite the fact that three of us are usually dead at any given time
>win
>mfw I made two overconfident shitters ragequit and turned an unwinnable mess into a victory as crit fucking Dekker

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>>183447664

Fortnite is pretty garbage, guys. A lot of shit in it makes me worry about the direction Epic is going in monetizing their F2P games.

It's instanced wave defense missions where you grind for resources to build shit a base around a box and brainlessly shoot zombies for ten minutes. Zero difficulty in the first five or so hours I've played.

You get schematics for weapons, traps, heroes, and people (assign them in a menu for stat boosts, that's all) as fixed quest rewards but mainly from paid loot crates. Many rarities of each which serve as straight upgrades. Oh, and you also have to upgrade each of those things individually, and re-craft those weapons when they break.

On top of that, you have to wait hours for "research" to complete, wait hours for "expeditions" where heroes you delegate return with resources you need to make shit, and the main questline involves replaying missions with arbitrary, non-challenging "collect the things" objectives.

It's the complete lack of fundamental challenge and the fact that stats matter more than strategy that really kills it, though.

>>183448482
What are the fortnite/ paragon crossplay items?

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>retire my sevarog because of a horrible, traumatic match months ago
>get forced into jungle
>say fuck it's been a while
>mid game I'm deleting the midlane wraith, the support, and carry
>confident to play sevarog again
felt fucking good, lads

>>183448864

Don't think there are any.

I will say that the look and style of the game is on point; it's very lush and tasteful and doesn't have any Gearbox BADASS bullshit. The random zones are very well-realized suburbs with unique buildings to explore and secrets to find, and everything in the world is breakable and can be built on.

Once you plop down the base where it tells you to and prepare for ten minutes of holding M1 until your weapon breaks, the boredom begins.

>>183449497
Fantastic, there aren't nearly enough good Sevarogs out there.

>>183427869
Here's hoping. I love my spooky ghost cowboy.

>>183449786
The voice lines of the characters are a bit tiresome from the streams I was watching, except the main robot. I'm a sucker for survival shooters so I def want to check it out but not enough to pay early access.
I had heard there were cross banners between parag/fortnite but I was hoping there'd be things that I care about but oh well

>>183451048
Thanks anon

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>>183451048
sevarog is my skeltalboy most fun and rewarding hero I just want EBIN to give me a fucking cool skin for him, kinda want yellow default to be a bumble bee boy

get sages siphon, jungle until 6 cp, tele back get madspore and a ward and its gg jungle camps hello 140 stacks at 30 min maybe even less. I build tanky from the start

>>183452987
Going to start practising him on a smurf soon, I think: he's the next logical progression from Kwang. Let's hope both of them keep their places at the top of the food chain after the update.

Good night, /parag/. Funny that things would be so quiet after yesterday's wild ride, but we all know you're a fickle bitch. Try not to fall off page 10 now, y'hear?

sparrow is best girl

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https://paragontierlist.com/
thread is dead post tiers so we have something to fight over/make fun of silver shitters for. they dont have furbitch but its not like anyone cares about her

sparrow still best girl
im the last 3 posts now plz respond

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pity bump
here's a bigger version of the picture

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night /parag/

>>183459571
Yeaaaah...Mori & Wraith that high....

I want to shove my nose into Seraths hairy muff

>>183465994
me too but until vr progresses that far ill just have to be content with bumping this thread

Anyone else games been laggy?

either some fucks are ddos or EPIC has shit p2p servers pinging to BRs

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Is Morigesh any good?

>>183459571
Move wraith to C and mori to D. Wukong to C. Sparrow to A because phase exists. Khai to C.

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>>183471513
she's decent after the nerf but you have to conserve your mana

if you spam your abilities she's shit, if she's against belice (meta pick) she's shit

she's okay ish offlane not so much if phase is there (of course)

>>183393621
a tan skin recolour =/= playable brown goddess
>Gadget isn't cute though
This too.

>>183471513
if you need to ask these questions then anything is viable down in base elo.
refer to
>>183447664
>>183448142

>Crash while loading
Why the fuck do this shit keep happening. I've been banned for 6 hours because the fucking game keeps crashing.

What the hell.

>>183480480
>didn't apply an update

>>183480970
I have the game on auto-update. Isn't that enough?

so should I buy masteries or are the devs bullshitting me

So i am starting playing this game today and due to only being able to play a few heroes based on the pool they provide i want to learn how to play aurora how good is she and what lanes can she excel at?

>>183485852
Buy any masteries for heroes you like first then buy any masteries that you can with left over rep
>>183458025
>>183459571
>>183462378
a good night if bush bumping I see

>>183487010
Play offlane but down at starter elo you could probably even run her safelane no problem.

>>183489768
are there any waifu junglers?

>>183489859
In starter elo you can run your waifu in any role as long as you are good.
When you actually start climbing out of the mmr trench you can still do some serath jungle to carry your team.

>>183490239
serath one trick incoming thanks anon

>>183485852
there's a pretty big price hike coming

>>183487010
She's best Offlane imo: leave the safelane slot open for a true support. You won't have many cards, so your options are limited and you can't throw on a Thunder Cleaver to help your wave clear, so I'd say build into the tankier side of damage (Eldermage Amulets, Adamant Edge, Guardians Ward) with a Tempered Plate and Tuned Barrier for good measure. The extra health will help keep you alive when you're diving the enemy team to ult them, which will be your main role in team fights.

So, I have rep for three masteries left and I want to buy one out of each of these pairs(I already have many other masteries, these are the ones I'm most interested in out of those I'm missing)
>Sparrow or Murdock
>Howitzer or Gadget
>Rampage or Steeel(or maybe Aurora)
Which of those should I get and why? Help me out /parag/, I can't decide.

We did it bros, 300+ posts in 2 days. Time to celebrate!

>>183493957
We have no way of knowing who will be good after 4.2 but i personally would grab murdock, howitzer, and rampage/aurora. I prefer playing those champs to the others you listed.

>>183494143
still dead though

>>183493957
sparrow howie and aurora

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First game i do in this game on pvp and i get someone who had died 7 times by 10 minutes and the whole team goes to whatever lane they please even tho in character pick i was the only that assigned myself a lane what kind of matchmaking is this?

>>183497392
you're in the new player pool so you're stuck with a bunch of shitty ps4 players who have never played a moba before and have no idea what they're doing. that sparrow also wasn't autobuying and actually had as good of a deck as you can make when you first start so it was more than liekly a smurf. after your first 5ish matches you'll be out of that pool and just playing regular silver shitters

>>183497392
Yeah I hate this shit about this game.
At lower ELOs you get matched with console scrubs who never played a moba in their life and simply play paragon because it looks like a shooter.
People will go anywhere. No one but you will use or follow commands. Everyone will sit in one lane while the enemy takes a free inhibitor or two.

On the other hand, this can happen to the enemy team as well so, if at least half your brain is working, you will go 12-0 ez pz.
My advise is to take characters capable of deleting people easily to carry your shit team out of polyester division.
Though, ironically, because everyone you will get matched with is retarded, literally any character is a carry once you build them right.

>>183497958
i see thanks
>>183497972
can't really build since i only have the basic stuff so i will have to stick with that for a while until i get good cards

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WAKE ME UP!

>ywn give a tonguebath to mommy after she returns hot and sweaty from a battle
>ywn handcuff belica and have your way with her
>ywn test the effects of dekkers latest aphrodisiac attempt all day
>ywn roll around in the bushes after a picnic in the woods with sparrow
>ywn be frozen in place and used as a human sex toy by aurora
>ywn be sucked dry of all body fluids by countess
>ywn do anything but bushbump this thread on weekends because its always dead

whats up boys

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>take Phase
>this happens

Kallari even got a penta out of it...

>>183503501
what league

>>183503556
Shitver.
This was my first game with her, you guys werent memeing. I felt bad for the enemy team, desu.

>>183503556
>not being able to tell leagues solely by the cards used
hes in silver or very low gold

>>183503708
>t. 1400 gold

>>183503556
there's a fucking safelane kallari, what do you think

>>183504034
borderline plat

no but really do you guys treat silver players like bronze retards? i think i understand the game on some level and i'm silver

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>>183503984
no but i was headed in that direction >>183316939 the smuf im on is probably there though since ive just been playing characters i want to learn or am shit wish for the past month

>>183504392
>no but really do you guys treat silver players like bronze retards
anyone who doesnt has never made a smurf

>>183493957
Devs say they're looking at Rampage and Grux to buff them.

>>183504392
I'm good at the game and I've found myself dumped into silver from time to time: I've won my last 14 games straight so I'm comfortably back in hold, but I understand that people can be in a bracket not reflective of their skills, and that goes for shitters somehow finding their way into higher Elos, too.

>>183498316
The people who play this game all the way up to high plat are just nuts man. When you secure a triple kill and everyone just backs to spend their points and heal...its like nobody knows how to push advantages.......

>>183505603
>I'm good at the game
>silver
Yeah right lmao are you the guy from waaay back who said he's good at the game but built agora blade with no crit on khaimera?

>>183506369
you don't know jack, shithead

>>183506369
No, actually. Think what you want, I know where I'm at in terms of skill and understanding the game.

>>183506913
who's jack

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Opinions on aurora? I'm spending my rep on all the cahracters I Want to use post v42.
No clue about her though, she seems quite useless when her ults down, which seems like shinbi to me, though she has two fucking escapes.

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>draft
>first person locks in safelane Kallari


fucking br's

>>183508647
It's good to buy any and all masteries right now anon. I think someone was doing some theorycrafting around Aurora earlier in the thread. I'm feeling like a lot of characters will be viable with these new cards.

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>>183508737
>next draft
>this faggot
>dodge again
>20 min. penalty

This really plucks my bush

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>>183510004
>your mother will die in her sleep
what's your issue with thiago?

>>183508647
ive been playing a lot of aurora recently since ive been trying out all the characters i never bothered with. she needs massive scaling buffs but her kit is good, and the removal of purity with the new card system should help a bunch (though there is the group stasis so you're still kinda fucked)
overall even with her being complete trash now ive still been having a lot of fun playing her and if they nudge up her scaling even a little bit along with the new cards i think she'll be in a good place. i'd go for the mastery. plus dat fuckin ass wew lad

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>>183459571
>SS - Overpowered
>S - Top picks
>A - Great Picks
>B - Good picks
>C - not the best, but you can make them work if your're good
>D - Bad picks

>game just completely freezes as I was starting to mow people down

Epic.

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>>183512497
pls understand is bEta
It happens to me every few games, too

alright so I just had an epiphany. 75% of Paragon players seem mentally retarded because they are children who's parents won't buy them ps+ so they play the free game that looks like a shooter to them. anyone wanna cosign my theory?

>>183516617
I mean, I've met some horrendous PC players. Also, PS4's aren't cheap, so any kid that gets one probably has parents that wouldn't really care about a yearly $60 subscription. There are definitely some kids on PS4 accounts though, so you're at least partially correct.

>>183516617
everyone in plat is retarded though and ps4 shitters never make it that far

>>183517168
>There are definitely some kids on PS4 accounts though
Which is why I try not to rage at some spectacularly, unforgiveably bad players like other folk do: they're probably just kids or something.