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Literally who Edition

What's new?

>Stukov - Starcraft Support; Now LIVE
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20886131/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/stukov/
https://youtu.be/KBBUVUmzxKk [Embed]

>Sun's Out, Guns Out Summer Event and Sweepstakes; Now LIVE
>New summer themed skins, mounts, and sprays
>Event ends the week of July 24th
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20838724/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20852963/
https://youtu.be/mAolE6W_l9I
https://youtu.be/2RNtPcvCf8Q
>Heroes of the Storm 2.0
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/

>For New Players
>Welcome to Heroes of the Storm
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE
>Official Community Resources, Guides, and Tips
>Talent Calculators, Statistics, Youtubers, and more
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/guides-resources/
>Tier lists are effective guidance tools, but should never be blindly followed
http://www.heroescounters.com/map
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist
http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20881854/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20904307/
>Current Patch Notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20888403/

>Where can I find fellow GM players stuck in gold because me bunga team?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

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>>183269907
>literally who

it's garrosh

N O T F I T
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>>183269907
>new hero is some kind of orc instead of kel'thuzad
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>>183269907


OK BOYS IZ GARROSH ELLSCREAM

>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Bluddflagg


AY TWIGGIES, LETZ SING FER A MOMENT FER A PIRATE ORKY SKIN!!!!!!!!
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REMINDER:

Anyone who whines in this thread about QM or posts their QM stats screen like anybody cares is a bronze shitter and should not be responded to.

Also, if you are attracted to lili, you're probably a fat neckbearded fuck.

Nobody wants Maeiv

Nobody wants Kel'Thuzad

Stop shitting this board with your stupid memes.

Anybody who posts anything along those lines is just meming.
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>>183269907
next hero = Garrosh, multiclass

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>>183270163
You making this post has in of itself shitted and tainted the thread more than anything you mentioned. Kys you
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>buy Starcraft 2 packs goys
>you get exclusive Blizz merch
>WoW pet
>ONE Hearthstone pack
>ONE FUCKING HOTS NORMAL CHEST
>10 neetbux each
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I idolize Garrosh. He represents the greatest qualities of an orc. To be an orc is to be physically mighty, to be redpilled and to be against all weakness. I will admit that in our modern world it is not easy and that is why there is Garrosh, the warlords, the uruk hai of Isengard, the old horde and many others to motivate you.

I got into HotS in alpha, some time before KTs release and ever since then I have been waiting for the game to let me play as the best guy, Garrosh. Over my time playing hots I have grown to despise it. The game, like everything by blizzard now, is in a really fucking bad state. But I am still waiting for Garrosh (and for a new, interesting competitive game, hopefully an RTS and not by blizzard, they are fucking shit) anyway This teaser is for him, I hope. For the first time I am excited.

My other bets are doomguard or pitlord
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Reminder that Garrosh is the perfect candidate for a Bloodseeker ult. Now is Blizzard's chance to eradicate the mobility cancer.
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How viable is Murky? Should I ever pick him in HL if I'm really good with him? He works on Garden of Terror
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REMINDER: Overwatch heroes were the best thing to happen to this game, and were the sole cause of reinvigorating it and making people actually care.

Anyone who says otherwise is a WoW babby shitter.
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>>183269907
REMINDER THAT THIS IS THE SECOND TEASER

GARROSH INCOMING SERVE THE HORDE OR BE CRUSHED BENEATH IT
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>>183270365
Reminder Garrosh is Hungarian.
>>183270387
Murky? He has a strong lategame presence,you either focus on him and his team gets an advantage or you ignore him and he shits you to death. In HL he is vulnerable to coordinated teams and dedicated AAs like Valla.
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>>183270510
Jesus Christ Hungary
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REMINDER: Unless you can post that you are at least Plat, literally none of your concerns or quarrels with the game matter, as you aren't good enough to understand the real problems.
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>>183270440
the only worthwhile addition from OW is Dva
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>>183270174
I missed you, [Embed]-kun.
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>people still think it's going to be maiev or garrosh
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>not maiev
why even live
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>>183270563
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REMINDER:

Only whiny kids think Hanamura is a bad map. Change is good and is a necessary part of keeping this game alive
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>>183270365
Don't care about garrosh, honestly its more like Kil Jaeden but thats still a reason to give him BS ult and enjoy genjis screaming after they oneshots themselves with 1 e
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>Dark portal
>Gate of Ogrimmar
>Orgrimmar is located in Durotar, a region named after Thrall's dad
>Durotan stepped through the dark portal once
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>>183270510
Based half-mongols.
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>>183270751
Yeah it's Kil'jaeden, known resident of Orgrimmar.
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>>183270163
>my opinion is a fact
>only this type of gamemode is allowed
kill yourself
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>Drums of war can be heard in the distance. Someone is coming...
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Redpill me on warhead junktion. What is the best strategy for this map? Whenever I play it in QM or unranked everyone just throws the nukes at the nearest fort / keep.
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>>183270689
>See Reminder

Ignore this poster
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>>183270828
In my opinion Rexxar and Medivh is very strong on that map
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>>183270828
Push top, get to 10 first, get boss, drop nukes on core with boss.
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>>183270828
sylvanas pve
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>>183270440
you dont need to buy a shit game to fap to its porn you know that , right?
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>>183270746
Yes change is good but it depends on what kind of change. If you always put peanut butter on your bread and became kind of bored of it. You could either add some cheese to make it taste better or add a huge load of shit and vomit and piss and cum and make it taste gross.
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>>183270828
>get rexxar
>solo boss at 10
>get the 2nd boss
>stop the enemies from ever getting a nuke because misha
>ggwp
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Most people here have won fuck all from the raffle, right?

I know I haven't, but I haven't been playing every day.
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>>183271606
1 win ticket per day.
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>>183270813
IM COMING!

If Garrosh doesnt have Grom skin on release then they really fucked up.
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>>183269907
Orc posting will never end if it's true.
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>>183271721
fuck you animefaggot moron
stay the fuck away from the true kult chars
grom will be a hero after garrosh
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>IT WILL BE A GROM SKIN
kek how do you feel now /hotsg/?
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>>183271861
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I feel I can safely skip Garrosh. Anyone have a hypothesis on kit? More WoW player class stuff like Varian?

I have enough Warriors and I can't imagine him having enough of a unique gimmick as an assassin.
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>>183271861
>grom
>the biggest idiot in warcraft history
>literally the reason azeroth is a shithole

>garrosh
>biggest badass by far in warcraft
>beats the shit out of the lesser races
>hitler in warcraft

what's not to like faggot
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http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/garrosh/
LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY DIDN'T GET TIME RIGHT
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>qm
>enemy team ALWAYS has a premade
>literally every single game
>my team doesn't a vast majority of the time
>finally do manage to get a premade on my team
>the enemy team has two

what the fuck? no seriously, what the FUCK? how in god's name does the matchmaking in this game work?
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fuck skulls, get camps
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>>183271606
playing every day, not a single prize
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http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/deathwing/
OH SHIT!
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Can other heroes even compete?
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>>183272715
*tips armor*
Heh, greetings.
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>>183272385
>faggot WoW shithead orc (huge and brown like my turds)
>Metzen writing
>adorns himself with his father's accomplishment (mannoroth's horns belong in a museum or on Grommash Grom Hellscream, not a walking sausage with daddy issues)

what's to like faggot?
Only WoDbabs like Garrosh, Vanilla and TBC masterrace realize that no WORLD of Warcradt character not already in the game deserves to get in, because WoW sucks.
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>>183272548
It doesn't.
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>>183272481
>>183272670
Go out
>>183272715
Indeed, how is he doing nowadays being dead
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>>183270746

i actually like hanamura and don't really understand why everyone hates it

it's an interesting change of pace from the typical capture the node/hold the points style maps. we just need a warsong gulch/capture the flag map next.
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>>183269907
It's up
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>>183272275
>I have enough Warriors
Like how many? 3 of them? Johanna, Anub and what else... Varian?
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>>183271478
>>183271056
>>183270909
he said strategy, not heroes
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These are all valid per MM:

2+random vs. randoms
2+random vs. 3+randoms
3+randoms vs 4+random
3+random vs. 2+2+random
4+random vs. 2+2+random
4+random vs. 3+2
4+random vs. 5
5 vs. 3+2

Also, premades are given a hefty MMR boost against groups with more randoms. Which is why it really blows being the random + 4 stack as the 4 stack will be criminally retarded.
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LOOKS LIKE YOUR ENEMY'S

GA-

RRO

SH.
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>>183272881
>Rexxar
Good on the map because there are a lot of camps to clear, can solo a boss and use Misha to scout while taking an nuke or safely block someone else from getting a nuke
>Medivh
Take a nuke, fly to the enemy Keep and nuke them.
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>>183272880
I think I own all of them other than Tyrael, Dehaka, Varian and Rexxar.

So, Chen, Johanna, Sonya, Anub, Zarya, Leoric, Artanis, Arthas, ETC, Muradin, Diablo.

Probably forgot some. Fuck it.
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REMINDER THAT ACCORDING TO THE LEAK NEXT HERO IS ANA!.
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>>183273264
Nah
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I played some QM earlier today. These people should not be allowed to have computers.

>game one
>ask someone to leave the retarded mid brawl to go soak bottom
>valeera responds "I cant soak dude"
>"You can, you just don't want to because you're more interested in fighting"
>"Nuh uh, I cant soak"
>"Are you *seriously* trying to tell me that you can't just stand in a lane and get XP?"
>valeera's friend pipes up with "valeera doesnt have any waveclear, so she cant soak"
>"I didnt ask her to waveclear, I asked her to soak so we don't get splitpushed to death by murky".
>"If it's so important why don't you go do it faggot"
So I did, the entire rest of the game as murky splitpushed us to death. Highlights were when I got into the garden terror then immediately detonated it. Chromie only player with a 40% winrate in spite of her 700 games played flipped their shit

Second game wasn't as flamey, but it just defies description. No one did anything that match for any reason. Let's capture a camp, but then not escort it in. Lets start a teamfight! Oh my ult is used time to just walk away now. Lets chase the enemy team halfway down the lane get to a point where they could all die and then just stop.

I don't understand these QM only players, surely you need to have some sort of mental deficiency to get enjoyment out of this wacky shitfest.
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>>183273264
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>>183273472
>when i got into the plant and immediately detonated it

Jesus fuck what a pathetic manbaby
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I want to beat the shit of that programmist who did this piece of shit reconnecting system. Just how braindead should someone be to even come up with that idea that to reconnect you have to make bots at 8x speed to replicate what players did in your absence?
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>>183273626
he did the right thing
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>>183273472
>intentionally fucking over your teammates even when they are dogshit and uncooperative
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>>183273669
>programmist
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>>183273472
>Highlights were when I got into the garden terror then immediately detonated it
you are a far worse player then those people
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>all these fucking literal reddit LE NEXT HERO comments
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>>183273669
The progromancers didn't worry about it at first no one is going to wait for you if you disconnect in the 1v1 ladder.

But these are the same people who didn't want to put in chat channels so fuck 'em.
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>>183273858
epic reaction gif bro
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>>183273858
>butthurt maievfag detected
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>>183273858
>Is that thing I no like?? It must be FROM DIFFERENT WEBSITE
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>>183273472
If you are this petty than you are just as bad as them.
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>>183273472
>get triggered
>sabotage on purpose
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>>183270828
Take things that have globals or are strong at duelling. Do not take shit that cannot 1v1 or is otherwise extremely weak.

Artanis is an amazingly solid choice because he basically flat out wins 1v1's and he can do all the camps solo with amateur opponent. Dehaka and falstad can global on top of people, so can ETC if he takes stage dive (protip you should take stage dive). Abathur can be played as a sort of global psuedo-support with microbes and shield talent at 4 he's also capable of taking the firebat camps solo with either survival instincts or regenerative microbes just make sure you're not getting hit by splash damage.

Azmodan can create a lot of passive pressure via trait but isn't as good in fights. Zagara can also get in a lot of easy structure pressure. Other solid choices include things like thrall.

Be capable of winning a fight 1v1.

Early nukes should be used directly on wall so you can get an XP advantage. Don't drop nukes on shit that will die easily. If you have a 'defensive' character like abathur that's often not involved in fights, it is totally fine to just hold onto a nuke so as to do something like defend vs a boss push.
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>>183273472
>Let's capture a camp, but then not escort it in.
Really make bunga think
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>>183273961
No one was responding to murky at all, he literally had *every fucking camp on the map* before 5 minutes, even the ones on our side, while we were losing soak in two lanes because the 'team' wanted to perma-fight.

It was going to be a loss anyways, it's the sort of thing you can see coming from a mile away.

In hindsight I shouldn't have destroyed the terror. because I ended the match 10k xp short of leveling my hero up. I got a surfboard from the chest
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>cucked by maiev once again

when will this torment end?
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>>183273472
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>>183274220
Nobody cares about that, being a dick on purpose is bad and you should feel bad.
No fucking excuses.
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IT'S FINALLY TIME

All the discussion about him yesterday hyped me up and now he's coming.

I can't wait to play him every game, feed like shit and be useless but still get MVP because GARROSH DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>183273472
Y'know, it actually would have been pretty easy for any half-decent valeera player to go deal with murky. Her silence locks him out of bubble for 2.25 seconds and she can basically guaranteed kill him any time she sees him. Waveclear isn't even a factor.
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>>183274557
>using garrote ever
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>>183274503
There is no moral high-ground on either side. I just didn't want to be in the game with people like that for any longer than I really had to be.
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>>183274703
>Implying Valeera shouldn't use her best spell
Go fuck yourself with a light bulb
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So many great heroes in such a short time I'm running out of gold. When will the next Overwatch wave come so my pockets can have a break?
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>>183274856
If you're looking for damage on valeera you should go with stun, because her 2 aa's per second equate to more damage from stun than (untalented) ambush or garrote. Ambush should really only be used if you need the movement.

For someone like murky though denying them bubble for 2+ seconds is pretty huge as they'd need to be low in order to kill with just stun.

Cheap shot is almost always the default choice though and you only use the others if you need their utility.
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>>183274980
You can skip Garrosh. Your desire for orc dick won't make his kit fun.
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>Hemet Nessingwary Hero
>Quest Talents that force the enemy team to complete quests
>Have to kill 30 tigers hidden around the map to get rid of debuffs

You fucking know you want it
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>>183275145
Even if he has anti-mobility and dueling abilities?
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>>183275228
Like Varian? I mean, hey, if you want to play Varian, you can play Varian. Generic warrior ho!
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>I think Mana Burn would be very problematic in our game. It's basically a very unresponsive Silence (as it can take several uses to eliminate the target's mana pool), that lasts an impractically long time (likely 30+ seconds).
>The result is that it feels extremely punishing for the enemy, and even the person doing the burning doesn't feel like they had a big impact most of the time. I greatly prefer Silence to accomplish that goal because it's really sharp and reliable (the moment I hit you, you're locked out of spells), but also not punishing beyond that initial window (after a few seconds of Silence I can play my hero again) - at least assuming you weren't killed during that time.
thoughts?
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>>183276142

Mana Burn can fuck right off.

One of the things I like about HoTS vs other games in the genre is you can actually use your abilities to help with waveclear and such, the mana regen is generous enough that you don't need to autoattack for 20 minutes because abilities use half 20% of your mana and regen is non-existent.
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>>183276142
Agreed, its a crap ability. If you wanted to do something more effective either add damage based on ability usage or %dmg on max mana pool without burning mana.
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>>183276142
>implying playing Genji isn't punishing for your enemies enough but manaburn is
Their reasoning is a joke. Manaburn is just bad beacause either you make it broken and turn heroes like uther into meatbags or make it weak and it won't hurt even Genji who never goes oom. Too big gap between different mana users. Either it will counter like 2-3 heroes so hard they will literally become useless, or noone at all. And what about people with other resource bar? Burn it aswell?
It would be better if they gave some ability cd lockdown like Void from Dota has. This would work against everyone well enough
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>Dark Portal
>Reinforced Orgrimmar
>Highly requested, even more popular than Stukov
>Literally 100% Garrosh
>Mfw it still somehow manages to be an Overwatch Hero
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>>183276567
>Dark Portal
>Reinforced Orgrimmar
>Picture zooms out
>It's Mei playing WoW on her PC
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>>183276567
>garrosh exits portal
>is struck down by anduin
>new hero: anduin!
>garrosh is not dead yet
>slays anduin with his final breath
>HEROES (of the storm) NEVER DIE!!!
>Mercy has joined the nexus!
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>>183276567
>>183276636
>>183276695
I worry about you people, seek help.
>>
>start season
>climb normally just playing whatever/filling
>always get stuck in d1
>suddenly bad drafts in every other game
>gazlowes, valeeras, people with 10 games played on abathur, that type of shit
>massive losing spree to d4
>-14 personal adjustment
>mute chat and ignore feeding retards
>rotating between GM and Valla
>still cant carry despite best efforts
>3rd season this has happened to me

I dont know if its the time of day, or even day of the week that I need to avoid retards in NA hero league, but every season this seems to happen to me and I can't figure out what the fuck causes it.

I don't think I'm the problem since I can climb every season, but you know >only constant etc etc, so I'm starting to doubt it.

Should I try playing tanks instead?
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>>183276636
>>183276695
Dumb Overwatch posters, the next hero is Ana.
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>>183276567
>>183276790
>Blizzard releases a cinematic
>the portal from the teaser is shown and demons from the burning legion emerges
>D. Va is shown fighting them
>"But in my life I have learned that together! We will be stronger!"
>Sombra comes flying in
>"Leeeet's do this!!!!"
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>>183277429
>>183277636
what did he mean by this?
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>>183277429
is that sombra?
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>yfw Garrosh didnt die and Thrall simply transported him to the Nexus
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>>183277429
is that from your fapfolder?
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>>183270174
what is this cancer
>>
What are the chances of us getting TWO heroes?

One from the portal
One from Orgrimmar
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>>183277859
Pretty much zero
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i hope whoever made blackhearts bay, garden of terror and haunted mines gets cancer
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>Hero reveal
>Garrosh talking over the cinematic
>Talks about how the world he wants will be BUILT by the strong and that they will have to WORK for it
>Introducing the highly requested popular hero, Peonius the Peon!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>183277859
Like Garrosh and Grom skin?
>>
>>183275126
Which is ironic because if anything, Cheap Shot should be the utility choice. So clearly we have balance issues.
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>>183277859
It's Vol'Jin and Akama.
>>
Garrosh isn't more popular than Stukov, no fucking way.

Grom was requested far more than Garrosh.
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>>183278171
Garrosh is the HS warrior leader
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>>183277932
t. shitter
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>>183278241
so what? where's alleria? khadgar?
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>>183278698
Those are like extra leaders, they don't count. Only the base leaders really matter, the only other one left is Anduin. You can't even get Khadgar anymore, he was like available for 2 weeks or something for an apple promotion.
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>>183278698

Where's Malfurion? Where's Jaina? Where's Rexxar? Where's Valeera? Where's Uther? Where's Thrall?

Oh that's right they're in HoTS.

Hearthshit is probably their most profitable franchise, you'd be fucking retarded to think they'd bring in Grom (especially after the disaster that was WoD) over Garrosh.
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>>183278925

How could I forget Gul'dan.
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>>183278698
>DLC skins for heroes already in the game
You are retarded
>>
>>183278925
You really think those heroes were added because of Hearthsone?

Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
>>
>someone calls me shit
>i get mvp
haha, sure showed them!
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>Get Samuro on towers of doom
>Only goes for camps
>Never goes for objective
>Feeds KT convection


At this point I rather have a Nova
>>
>>183279234

Valeera is a fucking literal who outside of Hearthstone.

You really think she wasn't added because of HoTS because of HS?

You fucking turd.
>>
>>183278698
Makes him more popular in China if he's from a recent free game.
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>>183278365
>enjoying those maps over maps like infernal shrines
lol

LMFAO

pleb
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Daelin Proudmoore is by far the best prophet in wc
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>>183279310
But she is the most famous non leader rogue, like Rehgar is for shamans.
>>
>>183279310
Doesn't she exist in legion as a rogue follower? Admittedly she probably doesn't do anything there either and only was picked due to previously being in hs.
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>>183279472
>Who is Garona
>Who is VanCleef
>>
>>183279472

>Garona
>Vancleef

>Shaman

I could list the entire fucking Earthen Ring at this point and all of them are (were) more prevalent than Rehgar.
>>
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/888051090494595072
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>>183269907
Check out @BlizzHeroes's Tweet: https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/888051090494595072?s=09

Garrosh confirmed
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>>183270570
Tracer in HotS is so boring. Not even an alternate heroic its just her OW kit
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>>183279494

Before Legion, Valeera's entire appearance in Warcraft was in the Varian Comics, and sitting at the Stormwind Docks as an uninteractive NPC during the WoTLK pre-event.

She was a fucking nobody, just like Rehgar, before they needed a Rogue for HoTS and there were too many Orcs to include Garona.

>>183279771

It's like pottery, it rhymes.
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>>183279650
but did any of them fucked varians boipussy too?
>>
>>183279494
Class followers are full of nobodies. You might as well say they're adding Noggenfogger next.

I'd play the shit out of that.
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>>183279771
>>183279804
garrosh confirmed
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>>183279862
at least rehgar is rad
>>
>>183270636
That'd be fucking sick
>>
>>183279862

>Need a Rogue for HoTS

That should be "Needed a Rogue for Hearthstone". My bad.
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>>183279948
>garrosh
blizzard please fuck off
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Lok'Tar Ogar, Heroes! Garrosh, Son of Hellscream, will soon devastate all those who stand against him in the Nexus!
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>>183273917
Please do not defecate in this thread. Shit is meant to land in the toilet and I expect you to clean up this mess right now and delete your disgusting picture.
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>>183280067

UNITED IN OUR CONVICTION, UNRIVALED IN POWER, BEHOLDEN TO NO-ONE.

HEH, GREETINGS
>>
>still no draenei hero
im UPSET
>>
>>183276142
It's amazing you fucking cuck literally just post whatever the fuck is on reddits frontpage thinking it's hit news.
Get dominated
>>
>>183279771
>>183279804
Why is it so hard to save a gif from twitter?
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>>183278171

Imagine if you had managed to not be a retard for like 10 minutes. Nobody would be laughing at you right now.

Endless possibilities awaited you, and you chose to say some dumb ass shit on a korean puppeteering forum.
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>>183279250

>shithead spec constantly splitpushes and ignores everything else
>perma 4v5
>lose all objectives
>any structures they get are immediately offset by enemy team wiping us and taking ours
>lose game
>they get MVP because "most siege damage done" in game
>mfw
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>>183280589
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>>183280527
Because when you upload a gif it reformats into a video file and not a gif. You have to extract the video and convert to a gif.
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>>183280527
Same reason why trying to save a 1mb mp4 from Imgur forces you to download an 80mb gif instead.
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>>183280589
>blizzard
>good writing
>literally a 360 in character from the end of cata to the start of mop
reddit was a mistake
>>
well fuck, couldnt be any more misleading with the fucking TBC portal
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>>183280776
Whew. At least it's not Grom

Also, guess all the russian leaks get GTFO'd
>>
>>183280809
>Misleading
>Literally where Garrosh came from

Makes a billion times more sense than fucking Maiev who didn't even go through it.
>>
>>183280786
>h-he called sylvanas a bitch so that makes him a good guy
you're a fucking idiot if you think garrosh wasn't a piece of shit since wrath
>>
>new hero is WoWshit
>no Maiev, Mal'ganis, Kel'Thuzad, Archimonde, Kil'Jaeden,Magtheridon, Antonidas, Cenarius
>next hero will be Junkrat or Mei

dead game
>>
>>183280893
Maiev went through it twice hunting Illidan
>>
>>183280776
I'm 100% positive that one of his heroics will be that giant metal ball that the iron horde used and that was in his boss fight.
>>
>>183280893
How'd she end up in Shadowmoon Valley (TBC one)? Took a portal to Shatt from a mage?
>>
>>183271721

sauce me anon in garrosh's name
>>
MAIEV CONFIRMED AHAHAHAH
>>
>>183280936
>>183280959
She didn't go to Outland through the Dark Portal, you dumb hillbillies. She went through the smaller one Illidan opened. Play WC3.
>>
>>183280856
Nigger we've known that it was going to be Garrosh when Stukov was announced.
>>
>>183280936
Not really, Illidan never used the dark portal when going to Outland and neither did Maiev.
>>183280959
used the same portal that Illidan did
>>
>>183280776
His ears are comically huge in the gif (btw, wth with the compression blizzard???).
>>
>>183280929

Are we doing this again? I mean we did this all yesterday too.

Garrosh WAS a dick in WoTLK and Cata. But he wasn't literally hitler genocide the impure master race zug zug that MoP quickly 180'd him in to.
>>
I JUST WANT FUCKING MAIEV ITS NOT FAIR!!!
>>
>>183281026
>memory of a 19 years old game
dont have that stuff sorry , and not autism to replay the same single player game
>>
>Point out multiple times that Maiev's barely related to the Dark Portal if at all and that the green eyes aren't really indicative of anything because the portal's edges glow green anyway
>"No way her eyes are GREEN! It's Maiev my wardenfu xD!!!!!"
>>
>>183279948
this *we release info via streamer* is true cancer
>>
>>183280893
>warchief mantle
>le came from the tbc portal

end your life
>>
>>183281174
>Being this underage
>Thinking WC3 is single player
>Making claims when you never played it

More like they probably didn't have Internet or computers or electricity in your Slav shithole back when it came out judging by how broken your English is.
>>
>>183281230
Garrosh came back to Azeroth with Thrall in TBC you autist. He was theb Thrall's right hand man for WOTLK then whooped Thralls ass in a fight. Thrall made him warchief in Cata so he could go become Jesus and save the world from Deathwing.
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>another orc
ugh give us something new like a naga or something
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>>183281202
chink streamer nonetheless
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>>183281372
goatfuckers btfo
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>>183281230
Literally what did he mean by this?
>>
>>183281293
>played warcraft 3 campaign in co-op
>Making claims when you never played it
>>
>>183281293
>you need internet to pirate or buy a game
ok gramar nazi , move the goalpost a little more
>>
>>183281372
Orc were a mistake
>>
>>183281390
>Obsessed with shitty retcon horsecock not-Protoss race
>Can't even spell their name right

Why are Draeneifags so pathetic?
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>>183281372
>>183281390

>6 Elves
>6 Warcraft Humans
>Game gets a 5th Orc
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>183281552
This.
Orcs > Draeneis
Fucking spacegoats are just like night elves, but from space
>>
>>183281552
>>183281621
>Ugly as sin in WC3
>Retcon in TBC the WC3 version is the corrupted version guys
>Become spacegoat with sexy body
>>
>>183281601
There are 6 orcs if you are counting Greymane as a full human, rexxar counts as a full orc.
>>
>>183281621
Orcs are not even from Azeroth
>>
>>183280776
Wew for a moment i thought it was a Overwatch hero
>>
>>183281601
>ask for something new
>REEEEEEEEEEEE WE NEED MORE ORCS
stop responding to me autist
>>
I never thought blizzard would actually release garrosh before grom. Fuck this shit game
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>>183281775

Greymane is a human with a curse. Rexxar is a half Ogre-half Orc, with way more emphasis on the Ogre part.

But I suppose that means there's 7 elves, cause of Lunara so sure I'll take it.
>>
>>183281901
he'll have a grom skin
>>
>>183281907
Lunara isn't even half elf
>>
i am upset, i was happy to get rid of generic edgemaster orc in wow
>>
Reminder that it is a double reveal, Garrosh came from orgrimmar and someone else will come from the portal
>>
>>183281882

I bet you weren't sperging like a fucking autistic manchild when Valeera was added because WOAH SO SEXEH ELF :3333

Kill yourself, waifufag.
>>
>>183281775
Greymane human, just because hes some sort of druid furfag dosnt made him halfhuman
better just add stiches as human because sylv and arthas too dont count as "undead"
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SPECULATION TIME

what do you think garrosh's kit will be like?
bleeds out the ass?
orcish war machines?
y'shaarj corrupting ultimate?
1v1 me fgt duel mechanics?
%health damage executes?
>>
>>183281882
Orc husbando fags are the worst post in this general, don't give them (you)s
>>
>>183282098
If he doesn't have Bloodseeker's ult he's a pointless release.
>>
You think they'll give Garrosh an execute like Darius?
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>>183282098
ult will be mana bomb that deals 90% dmg to buildings including core
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>>183281775
>>183281907
Rexxar is only 1/4 ogre
>>
>>183282175
Would it be a better last rites?
>>
>>183281907
Druids are full elves, not half.
They're just furries who decided to transform.
>>
>>183282098
me smash
me smash bigtime
raarrararar me smaaash
speshul ability, smash cleave
>>
>>183282175
Malthael kinda already has it
>>
>>183277935
I would be hyped
>Focus on building and upgrading towers
>Q : Repair a damaged tower
>W : Give special ammunition to a tower dealing AOE damage
>E : Rebuild a destroyed Tower slowly
>Ult 1 : Upgrade a tower to a Magic Tower that has an Aura that buff all heroes and minions around it
>Ult 2 : Upgrade a keep/core to spawn better minions

WORK DONE
>>
>>183281901

half of the playerbase probably don't even know who grom is outside of his relation to garrosh. cataclysm's release to now has been almost as long a span of time since wc3's release to cataclysm's.
>>
>>183282207
That's the goofiest fucking entrance. He looks like he's trying to kill a mosquito after failing the previous 5 times.
>>
>>183282278
Lunara isn't a druid
>>
I haven't played WoW, is he gonna be a warrior/bruiser or an assassin?
>>
>stukov doesn't use his d literally all game
I genuinely want to know how people like this exist. How are they even smart enough to continue breathing. We still won but holy hell.
>>
>>183281601
>1 """"gnome""""
>3 dwarves
>5 humans
>1 worgen
>3 nelf
>2 pandas
>3 belf (1 also forsaken)
>1 troll
>4.5 orcs
>1 forsaken but not really
>1 Tauren
>1 goblin

>Literally every playable race except Draenai
HMMM why peeps mad bout hitler orc though :thingeing:

I don't give a damn about Garrosh being added, I want demons and pitlords and dreadlords and shit, but you are stupid if you don't see it
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>>183277935
>>183282317
>yfw Blue team will automatically get peasant while Red team gets peon
>>
>>183282098
he is going to have abilities taken from Bloodseeker, Legion commander and Axe
>>
>>183282207
I just can't ever buy the shoulders man. It looks so fucking goofy
>>
GREETINGS
>>
>>183282361
Oh right, she's a dryad. I think it's the same circumstance? I'm suddenly not 100% sure.
>>
>>183281907
>>183282395

Rexxar's dad was the half ogre, rexxar's mom is 100% orc, so he's only a quarter ogre mostly orc.
>>
so we're getting a spotlight in a couple of hours right?
>>
>>183282395

>Splitting nelves and belves

Garrosh is the first Mag'har Orc, he's one of a kind!

YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.
>>
>>183282395
why """gnome"""
and not
>2 DRAGON


>>183282492
rexxar is 1/2 humanoid and 1/2 Misha
>>
>>183282489
Cenarius was the product of Elune taking some deer god cock. Dryads are Cenarius' daughters but as far as I remember we don't know who the mother or mothers are.
>>
>>183282581
Probably, they never announced heroes without the spotlight following soon after.
>>
>>183282395
3 dwarves?
>>
>>183282581
Don't think so, he will probably be on the website in a couple of hours and a spotlight during the weekend.
>>
>>183282395
>STILL can't spell the race he loves so much
>>183281552
>>
>>183282395
There are no gnomes in the game, Chromie is a dragon
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>>183282756

MEKKATORQUE WHEN?
>>
i start to see why people like Genji
>can kill every faggot running away like cowards
>>
I might not like Garrosh, but as long as he's a warrior it's good for the game
>>
>>183282889
he'll be a bruiser before a tank, but thats still good for the game i think
>>
>>183282889
He will probably be a bruiser
>>
>>183282683
Shit, counted Arthas twice my bad
>>
>>183282934
>>183282971
>>183282889
As long as he's not an assassin
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>THERE AREN'T 6 ELVES THERE ARE 3 NIGHT ELVES, 2 BLOOD ELVES AND 1 UNDEAD ELF, THEY'RE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

>The exact same progenitor race, but with changes in environment or a foreign element bringing about a genetic change

INTRODUCING GARROSH, THE FIRST AND ONLY UNCORRUPTED PRIME PUREBLOOD ORC

HE'S DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF THEM BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE DEMONIC BLOOD AND ISN'T PART OGRE
>>
>>183283056
MULTI

C
L
A
S
S
>>
>still not releasing Aquaman

what a shit game lmfoa
>>
i hope they will add Mannoroth or Cydaea

just copy pasta the d3 and wc3 spells for the heros and we are fine
>>
>>183280946
But hammer has that
>>
>Really want Maiev, Kel'Thuzad and WHITEMANE
>Get Garrosh
I'm okay with this tbqh.
I loved Cata Garrosh.
>>
>>183279515
>>183279650
Leader, you morons.
Obviously VanCleefs.
>earthen ring
Lmao no, they're not.
>>
>>183282756
Yes, hence the """""""""""gnome'''''''''''''''''''' thing

>>183282631
Because she looks like one. Reason I also mentioned Sylv as bloodelf and forsaken.

>>183282748
I can spell Nathrezim just fine you dickbag.
>>
PTR today?
>>
>>183283216
Garrosh will have a better one
>>
>>183282428
His 20 could be that he take control of a level 20 copy of a hero like Archmage or Blademaster and send them to fight while he keep on buildin.
>>
>>183279771
>>183279804
Grom better have a nice fucking skin
>>
>>183283095
Said no one. It was a differention by WoW playable races being represented in HotS.
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>>183283454

Brown Orcs aren't playable in WoW either, anon.
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>play greymane
>lose
how do i into greymane? beyond "poke until you can worgen and secure kills" and "cocktail build" that is obvious, i need INDEPTH tips and TRICKS
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>>183283095
>>
>100-soul Diablo has 8k hp at level 20
>and armor on charge
>and massive regen/spell armor
How is this balanced?
>>
>>183283127
>no superman
>no neo
>no holy trinity skin for vikings
I know what you mean, anon.
>>
>>183270121

I WOZ RIGHT YA PANSIES!


SAHCK IT!

>>183282098


HE WILL BE ORK AZ FAK YA GROTZ!
>>
>>183283645
Kill him and he loses the benefits
>and massive regen/spell armor
Only if he picks that talent
>>
>>183283595

All this time I thought there were 6 elves. There were actually 7 Trolls.

Fucking Trolls of the Storm!
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> No Todd Howard hero
Defend this hotsbabs
>>
>>183283560
But they're no different race as defined by the fucking ruleset of the game. He's an orc. Thrall is an orc. Both are just fucking orcs and nothing but that by WoW.
Valeera and Tyrande are both elves. Just fucking elves. But they are, by WoW rules, different races. Nelf PCs have access to different racial abilities compared to Belfs.
>>
>>183283589
He's a jack of all trades.
If you have another good diver, you can dive.
If you have another good poke, you can poke.
If you have another good sustain, you can sustain.
It took me a hundred games to realize this, but he really can't do anything on his own. With a proper ally, he's arguably the best hero ingame, though.
>>
>>183283827
In that case you have to count Cho'gall too since orcs now officially descend from ogres.
>>
>>183283645
>how'about u just pick diablo ur-self
>btw ceeeya in the today starting diablo 3 season

i hope i matched your level of cancer
>>
>>183283095
by that logic there's seven elves, because zul'jin is one
>>
>>183283245
>Whitemane
>not a jaina skin
You retards will never be satisfied.
>>
>>183283860
Sure, but first you buy my fucking 360 day stimpack.
>>
>>183283893

>Different Racials

Brown Orcs wouldn't have the Blood Fury racial, that's brought on by the demonic blood lingering.

Would you like a shovel?
>>
>>183284015
>literally one of the most important wow priests
>twinks need not apply

>a fucking Jaina skin

Awful bait I hate you
>>
So, when from the timeline you think he'll be?

I'm not buying him either way, unless his kit is interesting, but I want to hear theories.
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>>183283645
>Stealth
>Stun
>Silence
>Armor on ult
>Attacks really fast
>Can move forward INDEFINITELY as long as you keep right-clicking in front of her
>When you kill her, she just comes back again after a while
>Literally grows in power with each level

How is Valeera balanced?
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>>183284082
>one of the most important wow priests
Waifufags are THIS delusional
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>>183284098
My bet is before character assassination, like Jaina, with maybe some poke dialogue referencing """""canon""""
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>>183282098
Oh fuck I love Garrosh so much, I just want to rub his deliciously hard brown chest all over!
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>>183284121
why does attack speed matter? it's not like this game has orb effects
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>>183284015
>Whitemane
>Priest
>A Jaina skin
Fucking what?
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>>183284261
Breaks block charges faster

checkmate BITCH
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>>183282098
I knew he was going to be put in game at some point but I was hoping more in the future. It doesn't help I feel like his kit will be to close to other heroes unless they do some sort of corruption bullshit with him.
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>>183284082
>one of the most important wow priests

I wish waifufags would die of septic shock considering how full of shit they are.
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>>183284261
>only reading half the post

>>183284354
Yeah, this is a bit much. I still want an undead priest since that is so iconic in wow and my favorite to roll, but whitemane is pretty identifiable. Arise my champion.
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>>183283962
>too since orcs now officially descend from ogres
No they aren't, they have the same common ancestries but they are not descended from ogres
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>>183284261
Well if you attack faster you deal more damage, not really rocket science
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>>183284261
Block charges
Killing minions/summons (no damage over their healthpool) more efficiently
Some effects like tyrande trait heal
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>>183284471
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>>183284431
>>183284154
Let's hear some refutation, faggots.
valla is my waifu anyway
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>>183283979
You mean 7 trolls, right?

>>183284076
>wouldn't
Oh, you cracked the game saw the racial abilities of the unimplemented brown orc race? Or going by lore?
Because I ain't talking about lore. Garrosh has the "orc" tag in game, like Thrall.
You're also arguing semantics because people are not mad it's another orc, but because it's a shitty fucking orc instead of the missing playable race. And that's all there is to it.
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>>183284464
>Over thousands of years, the residual spores transformed a number of ogron into the ogre race, from whom would arise yet another race — the orcs.
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>>183284354

>Whitemane
>Priest

Actually, I think you'll find she's a Death Knight now.
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>>183284354
>Diablo
>Demon
>Angel skin

>Nova
>Spectre
>Amazon skin

>Illidan
>DH
>Druid skin

>Malf
>Druid
>DH skin

The list goes on

Kys waifufags
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Is Stitches wearing a bra on the summer loading screen an example of fat-shaming?
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>>183284595
Post TBC isn't canon though, so that doesn't matter for any discussion.
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>>183284680
Those, except in Nova's case who is "we made this model, except it doesn't really fit a hero yet" are all alternated fate.
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>>183284595
NECRO'D
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>>183284180
But the thing is most new people seem to LIKE him becoming a "bad guy" and restoring the Horde as bloodthirsty conquerors.

They seem to think Thrall just killing him was poor writing, not Garrosh wanting to eliminate the Alliance.

What WAS Garrosh's schtick before he was turned crazy? Just a poor man's Grom?
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>>183284791
Source?
I doubt you got one you fag
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>>183284556

But Brown Orcs aren't playable anon. And you said that Blood Elves and Night Elves are different because of their racials.

I'm sure a character with no racials has different racials to a character with racials.
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>>183284873
Post an explicit statement that WoW is canon. You won't find one, that means it isn't. Check fucking mate.
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>>183284849
Ever since WC3 Orc fans have been split between the majority that loved Thrall and his new Horde of friendship and humane values and the minority that preferred the blood thirsty savages that the Horde was in WC2.

Some people just like to play bad guys and some people simply dont, they prefer the WoW were the horde vs alliance is a non-issue and just wish to be friends with everyone and beat whatever big baddie Blizzard throws at them.
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>>183284849
Misguided both ways by tales of his father's legacy and muh warrior's honor

Pretty baller if you like the "manly spirit" archetype
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What would happen if Abathur was released on Earth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bx5JUGVahk
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>>183285112
So, you're the one who decides what is canon in the Warcraft universe?
Nice to meet you M Metzen.
Why would WoW not be canon as it's the IP of blizzard and set in the warcraft universe?
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>>183284232

same
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>>183284680
>Still Diablo
>Still Nova
>Still Illidan
>Still Malfurion
Last I checked Jaina Proudmoore wasn't Sally Whitemane

>B-But Blood Raven is a Sylvanas skin
>B-But Muradin has a skin for Magni
Because BR did nothing but shoot a bow.
Because Magni was a mountain king, like Muradin.
Jaina and Whitemane's similarities end at "Human female."
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>>183282459
back in vanilla wow they used to have Mannoroths armor and tusks/horns chained up on a tree outside the entrance to thralls hut.

Garrosh took the tusks/horns from the demon his father killed and decided to wear them as shoulder-pieces. He also made Mannoroths skull his throne.
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>caring about lore in a fucking MMORPG with a billion extension packs

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>183280183
>>183282098

Lok'tar ogar! For the horde! For the TRUE horde! Death to those who oppose us! Finally the Warchief has arrived!

Since he is already an arms warrior and there is already Varian their kits should possibly no overlap.

So we expect:
>Rage mechanic - we are not some pussy mana class, we are the true warriors!
>Heroic Leap- to make it different from Varians charge, may also stun/slow/root on impact
>Rend - obviously must have, since it was the main kit from arms warrior since the beginning
>Hamstring/Slam - Damage with ugly slow, no fucker should escape, or even uglier damage to slam those fuckers to the ground
>Ultimate 1: EXECUTE: JUST KILL THAT FUCKER ALL OVER THE PLACE, THE MORE RAGE THE DEADLIER THE DEATH WILL BE
>Ultimate 2: BLADESTORM, HELL YEAH, unlike that pussy version from samuro
>Ultimate 2.5: If it's not bladestorm because some green samurai already has it it will be Die by sword: Parry every attack and strike back since it will be most likely defensive
>Level 20 talent other than ult upgrade will be Battle cry: Gives double damage to every ability (probably except ult) for few seconds
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>>183285341
>tfw no garrosh to fuck your boipussy until you pass out
Why even live?
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>>183285112
Post an explicit statement that warcraft 1, 2, and 3 are canon.
Post an explicit statement that my ms paint warcraft cartoon isn't canon.
Post an explicit statement that Murloc RPG flash game isn't canon.
Checkmate retard.
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>>183285443
>Entire kit is just copied from other heroes

Never do this again.
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>>183282175
If it were me designing him, that would be his trait. He'd start doing more damage to targets below 60%, and even more to targets below 20-30%.

Battlecry / Commanding shout (he is a hellscream after all), Cleave, and IDK wtf else for him.
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>>183285420
>caring about what people on Burmese wall painting enthusiasts forum care about
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>inb4 it's another multiclass hero who will fuck up QM matchmaking even further
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>>183284849

>What WAS Garrosh's schtick before he was turned crazy? Just a poor man's Grom?

to use the oft-cited catchphrase, putting the "war" back in warcraft. he was sick of the buddy-buddy attitude thrall had with the alliance and saw thrall as forgoing the potential to expand the horde's influence in favor of not stepping on their supposed enemies' toes.

the reason a lot of players liked this was because it brought the faction conflicts back into the game instead of the constant WE MUST PUT ASIDE OUR DIFFERENCES TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM ILLIDAN/KILJAEDEN/THE LICH KING/YOGG SARON/[insert here] that had become so prevalent.
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>>183285546
It's going to happen sooner or later
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>>183285546
Hey he is a warrior class from warcraft what do you expect
Also name me please 1 melee hero who has targeted dot ability
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What Heartstone character they introduce next?
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>>183279310
She was added to Hearthstone due to her popularity in the comics.
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>>183285364
>implying whitemane has personnality and is not just a generic female human with that one rare cloth hat drop and a sexy red outfit
Jaina and whitemane are both wizards
They wear cloth armor & a staff
They're human females
That's enough for a Whitemane skin for Jaina in my book, what more do you want?
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>>183285807

Valeera
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>>183285807

valeera
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>>183285850
Anduin the cuck is the last hs character left
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>>183280776
yes!
YES!!!!
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>>183285850
Next heroes are the Goblin Techies.
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>>183285893
>Jaina and whitemane are both wizards
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>>183285903
>>183285905
But it's a shit dot, the main purpose of it is the silence.
Rend has in WoW completely different role, it was one of the main sources of damage for arms, especially in PvP where you stack it as much as possible on everyone
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>>183285893
Whitemane is a priest
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>>183286012
you know that rend barely exists now, right
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>>183286051
>>183285997

Wizards as in magic users you pedantic fucks.
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>>183280776
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>>183285189
I've not experienced WC2, but what I saw of WC1, they are comically absurd Saturday morning villains. I know WC was Warhammer with the tags pealed off originally and orks are just jokes there.

Did WC2 add more dignity or was it all that dumb cartoon they wanted to make that changed the Horde from "duh, the bad guys" to "maybe they have a point"?
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>>183286051
Then Moira would be better, especially you could make her as holy/disc/shadow multiclass similar to varian, where holy would be more about heal and hots, disc about shields and ok damage and shadow just kill everyone
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>it's just garrosh
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not a wowfag and I couldn't give any less shit about some other roided angry orc warrior, isn't that what thrall and samuro already are?
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>>183285893
>Jaina and whitemane are both wizards
Whitemane is a priest.
>Whitemane
>No personality
kek
She's also a fan favourite for WoWfags because of the design and Scarlet Crusade instance.

>>183286184
>Then Moira would be better
Opinion discarded
Nobody wants your fat ass dwarf woman.
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>>183285189
>>183286161
And then you have faggets like me, we thinks that Orc society is peaceful as long as you don't give them a reason to fight you. Because if you do give them a reason to fight you then things will get violent, brutal, very bloody and very ugly.
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>>183286012
rend was a shit dot too faggot. it's only use was getting overpower procs and you would only apply it once since ms would just reapply it.
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>>183286138
???
that's not what a wizard is
that's like saying someone with a bromeliad is a farmer because they grow plants
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>>183286184
Anduin > Velen > Moira > Any troll witch doctor > Literally who-itemane
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>>183286382
b-but garrosh is a PURE BLOODED ROID RETARD, unlike th-that pussy thrall!
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>>183285721
I said "before". As in, what was his schtick when Thrall's decision to name him warchief wasn't obviously stupid?
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>>183285807
Malthael, Valeera, several heroes can pick up a targeted dot as a talent, like Ragnaros or Kerrigan.
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b-but it was her turn!
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>>183286427
you come get de voodoo
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>>183286382
>thrall
>warrior
>samuro
>warrior
stop shitposting please
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Why do people think that players deserve to be punished and banned from the game for typing mean words to them? Do they not know there's a mute button? The only bannable offense should be if someone is intentionally throwing the game.
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>>183286427
>Anduin that high
Fuck off, black dragon.
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>>183286580
warriors as in the literal sense, not the role in-game you fucking retard

please be baiting
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>>183286580
samuro is a warrior though
when is warrior getting mirror image, blizzard
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>>183286382
Same. But he might have some fun Rage management.

>>183286397
Fuck you, I don't have a stake in this and wouldn't mind Sally. But Moira would be fucking cool. She'd complete the council, is important beyond the name and actually looks unique.

Watch porn. You don't need HOTS to be entirely slutty girls.
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>>183286563
Maybe next year senpai
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>>183286427
Anduin is now a pally and Velen is a faggot, if they are going to make a goat hero they shall take the allmighty Eredar first and not the traitor "draenei"
Also both are holy, nobody wants a holy priest, shadow for the win.
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>>183286416
What's a wizard then?
Bonus points if you can make a reference wizards in warcraft as opposed to mages or priests.
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>>183286590
Muting doesn't work retroactively, retard.
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>>183286382
>isn't that what thrall and samuro already are?

Not really, how dumb are you?
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>>183286764
priests use holy light power to heal and sheat
wizards use elemental spells to do dmg and sheat
mages use arcane powered spells to do dmg and cc and sheat
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>>183286658
i guess everyone is a warrior now since everyone fought at some point or another
you're a fucking idiot
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>>183286716
>But Moira would be fucking cool.
Not really, no.
>She'd complete the council
Dwarffags don't actually like the council. They only care about Muradin and Magni.
>is important beyond the name and actually looks unique.
Important how?
>Looks unique
Whitemane does, too.

>You don't need HOTS to be entirely slutty girls.
Whitemane is a classy lady.
>Implying Blizzard wouldn't make Moira hot.
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>>183286427
I don't get why Anduin over two more interesting character sillouettes.
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>>183286184
>Not Faol for Silver Hand dream team
Heretics out
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>>183286914
>wizards use elemental spells to do dmg and sheat
Name any wizard in wow
Also, elemental spells is shaman's shtick
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>>183286161
Nah it was just as campy though the mission briefings were fucking awesome and just captured the character of the Horde as the savage fucks that are razing human settlements throughout Azeroth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUrgQ4i_cjc
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>>183286957
>he wouldn't fuck Moira
heh, faggot
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>>183286681
How mirror images work lore-wise?
Is it magic?
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>>183287026
generic dalaran wizard
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>>183287204
>Dalaran wizard
>elemental magic
>not arcane magic, because you know, dalaran and shit
Hmmmm no.
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>>183287148
no need for mana so it's not magic
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>>183286914
>>183287026
Mages and Wizards are the same thing in Warcraft. The WC2 Mage unit used lightning, fire, and ice.

>Also, elemental spells is shaman's shtick
lol?
Whitemane or bust. Fuck Anduinfags and Moirafags.

>>183287103
Not Moira, no. Fuck Moira.
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>>183286957
By being the leader of a type of dwarves and heavily influencing the whole Blackrock thing?

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I didn't think she was a no name. I figured Falstad was more.

And "wearing little clothing" while otherwise being a generic white human girl doesn't sound unique to me.

I am not saying Sally would be a bad character to add. She's clearly memorable and she'd be another "evil" support. I'm just saying Moira would be cool too.
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>>183287148
I don't think it's ever really been explained. An offshoot of shaman magic, probably?

>>183287326
It costs mana in wc3, they just decided samuro didn't need it.
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>>183287148

i always thought it was that anime trope where he moves so fast it's like he's in two/three places at once.
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>>183286857
So? So someone could say 1 mean thing to you before you're able to mute them? So to avoid this Blizzard should ban people? Are you 9 fucking years old?

>This person typed mean words to me, that makes me feel bad, makes me play worse and makes me not want to play this game and give blizzard my money wahhh
I feel bad, play worse, and don't want to play the game when I have a bunch of retarded pieces of shit on my team who don't even understand the basics of the game, so should blizzard cater to my feelings as well and ban these players too?
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>>183287326
Shadow priest doesn't use mana for his shadowspells anymore aswell (except that shadowheal) so this isn't magic aswell?
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>>183284464
I think it's stupid too, but apparently this is official.

I always thought of orcs being a separate native race to draenor than the Grondkin (Collosals -> Magnaron -> Gronn -> Ogre lords -> Ogres-). Gronnkin used to never stop growing which was why the collossals were so fucking big, and why Gronn could vary so wildly in size. Even ogres upon entering adulthood could range from particularly runty 6ft tall, to an average 8ft, but they could keep growing it wasn't uncommon to see ogre cheiftains at 15ft tall or so; and truly impressive specimens growing to 25 ft.

Collosals were pieces of a titan creation called "Grond", created to combat the evergrowth

Supplementary reading:
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Race_origins#Ogres_and_Orcs
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Colossal
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Magnaron
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>>183287318
to throw a fire ball isn't fire magic and to summon a water elemental isn't water magic just arcane

>>183287328
yeah mage and wizards share some common things but it isn't exactly the same, thats like saying a demolisher would be the same as a catapult
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>>183282098
>Embrace your rage!
>60s cd hero targeting ult
>Legion commander ult, except the damage boost doesn't scale by level; instead, Garrosh gets a passive 10 armor, with 20 more during the ult.
>Level 20 Triples both armor bonuses; a total of 90 while fighting one hero.
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>>183287368
She's named, but she's generally no-name because like every other Dwarf she's Tauren-tier relevant.

Falstad's only known because of the Red Shirt Guy meme and because he's Kurdran's brother, who was the WC2 Gryphon Rider unit.

>And "wearing little clothing" while otherwise being a generic white human girl doesn't sound unique to me.
The clothing IS unique, though, along with the face-paint. The Scarlet Crusade is a complete fan-favourite for Warcraftfags to boot, too. Much more-so than
>That one Dwarf lady that was a bitch to me that one time in BRD
Moira's unique, yes, but she's unique in the sense that adding Yrel instead of Uther would be different.
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Garrosh better be a tank. Finally full orc team.
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>>183287703
He must be moving really really was when using illusion master
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>>183287723
The difference is Blizz wants more of them and less of you. They ran the metrics and you leaving the game because of this is less important to their bottom line.
>>
Ultra mobility was a mistake
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>>183288036
Sorry, I think I missed the part where it was acceptable for a fucking video game developer to be enforcing their own moral judgments onto their customers.
>>
>two retarded players on my team
>feeding and throwing all game
>somehow i'm still carrying the game and keeping it even
>team throws again with a bad engage
>i afk and let the enemy run wild the rest of the game
>rage whisper because retard #2 got demoted

Am I the only one who does this?

Sometimes losing feels good when you're the gatekeeper for shitters in diamond HL.

btw thanks for not banning me yet blizzard, clearly the integrity of hero league is important to you.
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>>183288262
>Agree to EULA
>Get mad when you break EULA and get punished

>>183288337
>me unga
>team bunga
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>>183288262
>Being this butthurt because you literally couldn't stop yourself from pressing the Enter key knowing what would happen if you did

You agreed to the ToS, chump. Put up with it or quit.
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>best orc added
ITS TRULY A SIGN
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>>183288262
It is though. You want play game for free? You follow rules. You are not entitled to being a massive dickbag in online games. Actio-Reactio.
Consequences are a thing and yelling HUURRR ME NO LAIKU COMSEQWENZES DURR is childish.
Grow the fuck up you cuck.
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>>183288262
It is all about money, man. If you think the fallout from this breach of consumer trust is more impactful on spending habits than just not banning anyone, you're either in denial or simply overestimating how much people care about Blizzard corralling them.
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Why is it the most vocal players are usually the worst?
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>>183288752
Because if you're too retarded to make the connection that talking only results in getting banned or people sperging out at you or both, you're probably too retarded to play the game as well.
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>>183287797
Fair enough. You made reasonable points and presented them clearly.

I kind of want Moira for symmetry purposes, which is as autistic as it sounds. My preferences are mine alone though, so who cares. I'm okay with either.
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Garrosh just need to have rage bar and an execute ability, which uses all of the rage and deals bonus damage per rage. Maybe make it usable only if someone is below the kill threshold and this ability will kill him instantly. Or like ult from Darius from lol, when you kill someone with it you will get reset
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>>183288962
>Dumb execute shit
>Not wanting him to be bleed-focused to counter P R O T E C T E D and have a Bloodcyka ult for the mobility cancer
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Post Garrosh memes
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>>183288912
I mean I'll take Moira over Anduin or Velen, tbqh.
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>>183288262
Go be a shitty person somewhere else you single digit IQ brainlet
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>>183288962
If someone is below the kill threshold of any ability, that ability will kill instantly. That sentence doesn't make sense.

If a character is below the kill threshold of Abathur's basic attack, Abathur's basic attack will kill instantly.
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>>183289060
Just give him rend ability and it's fine
Also it won't help vs [PROTECTED] since it magically blocks all dot damage aswell

I just simply can't see how a bloodseeker ult would match a warrior class, a warrior never had something like that
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>>183289113
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>>183289237
With the difference that you can use basic attack from Abathur on full hp people, but you won't be able to use Garrosh's ult. It's only usable when someone is low enough to oneshot it,since the name execute. Unlike malthael it will be instant and scale with raw hp and not %.
So he will be able to cast it on fullhp darius and oneshot him but it won't be castable on fullhp diablo for example.
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>>183288752
Depends. Sometimes the vocal players are easily the best on the team and have a clear idea of what it takes to win (playing with grandmasters is a real fucking treat at times). Or even if they're not the best they are at least giving people some direction, a bad plan is often better than no plan at all so long as everyone is willing to commit to it. I cannot stand bad shotcallers and people who try to dictate everything to their team though.

I had a game the other day where I watched a twin blades varian on BHB, walk to the top bruiser camp, decide "oh wait the entire enemy team is all bot, I'd better go do boss instead!", so he walked to boss and then decided "oh the lane is pushing I can get on fort for free!" and so he walked to that... and then went "Oh no its not safe, better leave" so he walked away. If he had someone telling him to just pick something and commit to it he'd have been far more effective. that game was a retarded shitshow though, varian went 0k0a7d, and the azmodan and lucio on the team made up 80% of their teams kills and assists... without anyone elses involvement

Generally outside of plat+ rank though, talking can *only* do you harm, people will report you for the pettiest shit and if there's fucking anything in your chat logs in any game, you'll get an unwarranted silence.
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What banter will he have with Thrall? Lots of yelling?

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Thrall/Thrall%20-%20Default/Thrall_KillVarian00.mp3
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>>183289237
>That sentence doesn't make sense.
Yes it does.

>Ability normally does 200hp damage.
>Kill threshold is 500hp.
>If enemy is at 500 or below it insta-kills.
It makes it so the move isn't just a free DUDE NUKE LMAO like Finger of Death in wc3, and generally shit outside of the purpose it was made for.
Like Axe's ult in Dota.
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>>183289120
I get that Velen is boring as shit but I know if he gets in, there's less chance of the token Draenei being fapbait, so that is a big plus.

I don't get the appeal of Anduin at all. Last HS hero but that's it.
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>>183289642
>there's less chance of the token Draenei being fapbait
That's the only reason anybody likes the Draenei, though.

>>183289620
>"Try not to cheat this time, Thrall."
>"Don't worry, Warchief. You can use your spells against these enemies. Gahaha!"
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>>183275223
only if he gets a Green Hills of Stranglethorn reverse-quest that requires the enemy team to pick up 20 pages that have a .5% chance to drop from minion/merc last hits
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>>183289461
So it is a bad ability? I don't get the appeal of this drawback. You'd have to make it completely busted in a particular set of circumstances to offset it being useless the rest of the time.
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>>183289801
>>"Try not to cheat this time, Thrall."
That will be a Garrosh line right?!
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>>183289620
He being Garrosh of course. And I just found this. Hahahahaha.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Thrall/Thrall%20-%20Default/Thrall_Pissed12.mp3
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>>183289532
God, indecisive play bugs me a lot. My friend will literally stand there sometimes.

I'm guilty of it too though. I like pings. Pings are usually good enough.
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>>183289847
>So it is a bad ability?
It's an execute, retard. It one-shots you if you're past a certain threshold. Flat-out. What's not to get?

Jesus Christ.
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Edwin Vancleef when
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http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Thrall/Thrall%20-%20Default/Thrall_Pissed14.mp3 shud be in op post
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>>183279948
GAROOOSH
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>>183289801
How the fuck did Draenei end up being only good for fapbait?

We'll take hot chicks and add horns, cloven feet and tails. You already had hot chicks in the game. Why does adding a bunch of not sexy stuff make them lewder?

Are people just furry?
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>>183282247
one drop rule
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>>183289847
Why is this supposed to be bad? perfect ability to finish people off when they try to run away or are just stupid enough to engage on you with low health. Like the opposite of cursed bullet but instead of % it has constant damage, so he will kill LiMing lets say at 60% but diablo at 15% because of the hp difference
and

this
>>183290172
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>>183290393
>Horns
>Not hot
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>>183290393
>NORMIES
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>>183290172
That picture says it can deal normal damage. And benefits you when you get a kill.

The ability you are describing would be retarded. Why would you want something with only two modes? That's just limiting your options as a player.

It also is completely win more as if they're already almost dead or are so under leveled that their HP is shit, it'll kill em. But if they are overleveled with tons of HP, it is literally a useless ability.
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Post Garrosh memes
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>>183290695
>Cursed bullet
>This
Target ded, since this ult is instant unlike Malthael's so team won't be able to help

Or fight where your team and enemy is at half hp, you jump in and EXECUTE EXECUTE EXECUTE EXECUTE EXECUTE

>>183290824
>Garrosh did nothing wrong
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>>183290824
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>>183290957
>Or fight where your team and enemy is at half hp, you jump in and EXECUTE EXECUTE EXECUTE EXECUTE EXECUTE

Ah, I guess you could say you went for the throat!.
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>>183289847
Something like 200-800 base damage nuke depending on rage is really strong, Ming's Orb + Missiles clock in at 850ish base damage.
The purpose is that you have an ability stronger than most others, unmissable because targeted and instant damage ability on a CONDITION.
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>>183290284
what the heck is this
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>>183291230
the reason chris metzen retired
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>>183291115
But unlike that you will deal significantly more damage if you have more rage built up (I assume Garrosh would use rage instead of mana) and it will probably has no CD, so if you execute a tank, deal 1000 damage and get all rage back in a second again you can execute him again, similar to how it works in WoW.
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>>183291230
The link? A sound clip from Thralls' poke lines. Wonder when Junkrat is coming, or if this refers to someone else.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Gazlowe/Gazlowe%20-%20Default/Gazlowe_IntroResponse_Sapper00.mp3
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>>183291115
>EXECUTE, EXECUTE, EXECUTE
Fingers crossed.
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>>183290957
That's what I am saying, it is either insane or useless. And the only way to make it insane is to have it grow to absurd numbers very quickly or be ranged or have no delay.

"kills a Li Ming at 60% but not a diablo at 15%" is true of any ability that deals that amount of damage.

You are describing a drawback and throwing out hypothetical ways in which they could offset it, but the drawback itself isn't the appeal of the whole thing.
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>>183290695
>Being so retarded you don't understand execute moves
Just execute yourself and save everyone the trouble.
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us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/garrosh/
it's up
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http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Rexxar/Rexxar%20-%20Default/Rexxar_KillJaina00.mp3

Knew he enjoyed killing the admiral.
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>>183291448
I understand, it is just bad design though. It is like Li Ming's cooldown thing but infinitely more linear and based on the description y'all are giving 100% point and click.
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>>183288439
>>183288493
>thinking EULAs and TOS are valid
Checking a box for a bunch of nonsense that nobody reads isn't actually legally binding, and if anyone ever cared enough to go to court over this it'd be a pretty easy win with a competent lawyer.
>>183288706
>It is though. You want play game for free? You follow rules
There are already a better set of rules though, it's called the law, and last time I checked I was allowed to say pretty much anything I want in America. I don't need Blizzard or some snowflake bitch to tell me what I can and can't say. And don't kid yourself, Blizzard makes millions off of hots, they have a much larger responsibility to allow their customers to play the game they spend money on, which provides Blizzard employees with a job, than we have to use language that they deem appropriate.
>You are not entitled to being a massive dickbag in online games
Yes, I am actually. I don't know where you're from but as an American I have a right to free speech.
>Consequences are a thing and yelling HUURRR ME NO LAIKU COMSEQWENZES DURR is childish
You just assume I'm complaining because I got banned or something when I didn't, typical presumptuous snowflake. I'm just making the argument that Blizzard is a fucking video game company and shouldn't be involved in the business of policing people's language.
>>183288721
I know this, but Blizzard and snowflakes don't want to frame it honestly like this, they say that they do it to create a non-toxic environment or some childish bullshit. It doesn't even really work like that, Blizzard are literally catering to the VERY vocal minority of snowflakes. Look at counter strike and dota, probably the two biggest games there are, and they basically have no punishments for "bad" behavior, because Valve know that they're just a game developer and it isn't their place to try to enforce any sort of moral standard on their customers.
>>183289123
Nice hypocrisy.
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>LETS ADD ANOTHER FUCKING ORC FOR THE WARCRAFT UNIVERSE!!!!!!!!!

fuck this shit.
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>>183291434
I just can't come up with other arms warrior abilities that would serve as ultimate but weren't used before. CS has already varian, bladestorm -> samuro, guess there are only skills left like die by sword, shieldwall (which wouldn't suit arms), execute and battle cry which I could possibly call ultimate
If he was tank/multiclass I'd give him shockwave but he seems to be purely arms since he carries a 2H weapon and I don't believe that blizz is going to make another warrior multiclass happen

But whatever, maybe we will get baited in the same way like stukov and he will be actually a healer
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>>183291382
Sapper is a goblin thing
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>>183291754
at least isn't a human , whatever its from warcraft or starcraft
i agree fuck orcs anyway
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>>183291754
>Waaaah where's my generic fapbait
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>>183291737
>I know this, but Blizzard and snowflakes don't want to frame it honestly like this, they say that they do it to create a non-toxic environment or some childish bullshit.

This is literally the same thing you and I are saying. The only difference is we added the words "because they want money" which is implicit in all statements by a corporation.

And yes, Valve gets away with no doing that. Blizzard clearly can't afford to or else it would.
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>>183291713
>it is just bad design though
It's literally not, though.
>It is like Li Ming's cooldown thing but infinitely more linear
Literally the only thing they share is when you get a kill it resets. Except ONLY THAT MOVE RESETS.
>100% point and click
>Point and click
>Bad
Nice "Everything needs to be a """skill"""shot" meme.
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>>183291797
True, but how the flying fuck would that work as a hero? Murky on crack that explodes everything on death?

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Gazlowe/Gazlowe%20-%20Default/Gazlowe_Pissed07SFX.mp3
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>>183291926

I fap to this
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>>183291995
>And yes, Valve gets away with no doing that. Blizzard clearly can't afford to or else it would.
What evidence is there that enforcing behavioral policing in online games leads to more users? All the evidence available would suggest otherwise.
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>>183291760
Looking at his siege of orgrimmar fight (ignoring the old god faggotry)
He uses Hellscream's Warsong which is a thing he uses when you help him in quests. Its a buffing shout ability.

His ultimate could be the Iron Star.
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>>183291737
>>183292128
>MOOOOOOOOOOM WHY CAN'T I CALL MY TEAMMATES NIGGER FAGGOTS?!
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>>183290393
Your post couldn't be more reddit if you tried to, thanks for the cancer
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>>183285189
I don't even care about that split, either way the fucking Forsaken shouldn't be in the Horde
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>>183292082
techies
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>>183291737
>I don't know where you're from but as an American I have a right to free speech.

Holy shit how can one human being be this retarded?
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>>183292216
Wow, really made me think.
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>>183291713
>Warrior
>Orc
You expect an orc warrior to have a complicated ability like deals n damage in hitbox a, if it travels for 1 second it deals additional n% damage, after you hit another spell this ability will deal n+x damage in hitbox b while slowing enemy for m% and healing you for l% in addition providing you a stack of y?
It should be simple as it is. Me orc, me jump in, me smash me kill me happy, lok'thar ogar.
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>>183285364
>Nova
>Widowmaker skin

>Li-ming
>Sailor Moon skin
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ZUG WHEN
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>>183291926

But garrosh is 100% bara material alongside speedo tychus...
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>>183292248
Dota2 hero/champ, right? Never played any other moba than the original on WC3 and Heroes.

Wonder when Deathwing will get added.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/E.T.C./E.T.C.%20-%20Default/ETC_IntroQuestion_Deathwing00.mp3
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>>183292216
>DON'T SAY THE BAD WORDS
>PLEASE DON'T SAY THESE WORDS
>DO NOT TYPE THOSE LETTERS IN THAT ORDER AND THEN PRESS ENTER MY POOR FRAGILE PSYCHE CAN'T HANDLE IT
>HE SAID THE BAD WORDS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>183292314
see
>>183292337
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>>183292167
But Sgt. Hammer with the orc skin has already Iron Star

Garrosh will be actually a healer specialist and his axe is actually a staff which looks like axe on this picture but will be a druid staff ingame, similar to how stukov has changed but psst
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
GARROSH COMFIRMED
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>>183292415
He also has appeal beyond that. "Female Draenei who appeared once in a Borean Tundra quest but has a ton of fanart where she always has a horseock" #547654 doesn't.
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>>183291552
Nope.
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>another Orc when there is not even one Draenei character.

sasuga blizzard.
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finally, after that trash diversion of OW heroes, we're back to Warcraft. about time
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>>183292717
protoss are pretty much draenei
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>>183292640
>draenei in borean tundra
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>>183292717
Will sexually deprived autistic Draeneifags ever shut up? Holy shit.

JUST

GO

WATCH

PORN
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>>183292717
Dranei are cucks
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>>183292717
>repeating reddit shit
No one cares
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>>183292782
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=25300/draenei-delegate
Checkmate weebtard.
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>>183292717

name ONE draenei worth adding. just one. they're a literal who race of nobodies.
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>>183292000
How is a win more ability that requires nothing other than attentiveness, luck and already being ahead not bad design?

Ultimately, there's a lot of other factors, but in a vacuum, an ability that is either 100% win or nonexistent is not what I consider good design.

If he does get this ability, I can only expect dozens of posts between patches of "execute is useless, you never get enough Rage to kill anyone that wouldn't have been killed by a stray gnat" or "execute is OP as shit, rage regenerates instantly and he can wipe the entire team with no cooldowns".

It is the problem with the design of linear characters on the whole. And one that Blizzard has been suffering through with loads of characters.
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>>183292717
Nobody wants your space goats, and call them properly first, how about that. Just repeat after me:

E-R-E-D-A-R
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I just want more Gnome females
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>>183292640

who said anything about mary sue yrel?

I want Kel'thuzad. I want Maiev. I want Lothar, I want Mal'Ganis, I want Deathwing, I want Archimonde, I want Velen, I want C'thun.

fuck orc hitler and fuck the goat cheescake.
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Space goats are to lewd for HOTS, that's why we don't have any.
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>>183293045
You'll get one right after maiev. Never ever.
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>>183292128
I imagine results. I don't work in marketing. But if you really think their strategy is failing them when they are literally creating the world's most casual MOBA, you could go apply for a job in marketing there and change it.

You armchair marketing is doing nothing for no one. We're just stating what the game is like now. You're dreaming about something that won't happen.
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>>183292942
>http://www.wowhead.com/npc=25300/draenei-delegate
>screenshot is of a male
>only comment mentions guys
>fdraenei
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>>183292981

Velen
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>>183293105
>C'thun
This is going to be complicated tho. I assume he will replace the core but unike abathur he will be even more specialist and spawn tentacles and faceless over the map
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>>183293045
Alfie by Incase, enjoy yer shortstacks.
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>>183291737
>There are already a better set of rules though, it's called the law, and last time I checked I was allowed to say pretty much anything I want in America. I don't need Blizzard or some snowflake bitch to tell me what I can and can't say. And don't kid yourself, Blizzard makes millions off of hots, they have a much larger responsibility to allow their customers to play the game they spend money on, which provides Blizzard employees with a job, than we have to use language that they deem appropriate.

Except on private property, where you can be asked to leave premises for your conduct. This is why certain places like bars or strip clubs have dress codes (typically involving no gang paraphenalia). When it's applied equally it's not an amendment violation.

And all of that is an aside, because blizzard is not curtailing your fucking freedoms, because it is a private platform that you do not *need* to use and your freedoms still exist outside of said platform.

It's basically a "We eject anyone arguing or otherwise being disruptive from the premises" type clause. They mute anyone who is acting like a cunt and gets enough reports.
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>>183292981
velen
kil'jaeden
akama
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>>183292962
Baine when
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>>183293253

See: >>183292782
>draenei in borean tundra
No mention of sex.

Too much anime might have gave you brain damage.
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>>183292981
Velen, Maraad, Yrel, KJ/Archimonde, Akama.

There's others but they would be massive stretches, like Velhari or Eredar twins.
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>>183290824
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>>183293408

>Akama
>a turncoat manipulator
>""""heroes""""" of the storm

Never ever
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>>183293273
I'd like to see a C'thun/Yogg Saron vs Overmind map. Similar in nature to battlefield of eternity where it's heaven vs hells, except across game universes this time.
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>>183293553
>>183292640
>Female Draenei who appeared once in a Borean Tundra quest
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSC69eLjk28

this is your new hero
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>>183293748
>Heroes of the Storm
>New """hero""" is a villain

Hmmm hotsbabs?
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>>183291926
Generic fapbait is garrosh though
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>>183293174
>I imagine results.
So you just assume that Blizzard has some metrics or some study that contradict all of the publicly available knowledge? That's an interesting way to think. So you basically just trust Blizzard, a company with a pretty terrible track record over the last 10 years, to know what they're doing?
>You're dreaming about something that won't happen.
Dreaming about something that already happens in almost every other game on the market, many of which are much more popular than any of Blizzard's games?
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so Grom had a child before drinking demon blood? Or is the green skin not hereditary?
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us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/garrosh/
>grommash skin
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>183293832

He's not generic, he's hot as fuck
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>>183293748
>>183293828
Tell me more about how a honorful warrior like this could be a villain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wc-jsKgxJs
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>>183294034
LMAO gromtards on suicide watch
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>>183293748
>new hero

No, he is my warchief
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>>183294130

literally the lore team writing past each other without a common character direction.
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>>183294130
by the writing team failing to communicate what the fuck they were trying to do
which is a shame, because that version of garrosh is rad
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>>183294034
Page does not exist :(
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>>183294270
grieving for that boi Junkrat to make the game super unfun
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>>183294270
>The last 4 random baseless leaks that everyone swore by were just disproven with a single hero release
>Time to pick another random baseless leak to fervently believe in for no reason whatsoever
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>>183292836
I just want Velen man, I don't think any girl Draenei have done anything super relevant to the WoW lore. Or any of them have except Velen really, unless you count the ones that became no john you are the demons
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>>183294270
>2 OW heroes in a row

Shitstorm incoming
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>>183294270
>no Maiev

thank you lord
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>>183294270
>KTisALMOSThere
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http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Alarak/Alarak%20-%20Default/AlarakBase_Pissed05.mp3

This should be part of OP as well as the Thrall one, for people wondering what the fuck the game is.
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>>183294270
>Firebat
>2 overwatch heroes in a row
Nah fuck this shit, this is obviously fake, I'd rather believe in hybrid hero from starcraft than firebat
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>>183294362
This is the first leak to give a release order you retard.
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>>183294365
Ishanah, she was the leader of the aldor and recaptured shattrath.

Generally most female characters in wow are irrelevant baring like 3 or 4 though.
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>>183294556
Tell that to the Russian one that had Deathwing coming up next.
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>>183294692
You mean the one nobody took seriously?
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>>183293870
All publicly available evidence, ie. two games by a competitor that would've been successful no matter what by virtue of them being based on another game's legacy.

Surely, HOTS would be raking in the dough if people like you wouldn't get banned. You after all spend way more money than people who don't flip out in chat. Yes, I trust a company with a marketing department more than you and some anecdotal evidence.

And even if I didn't. Even if I thought Blizzard was hemoraging money out of every orifice because of their decisions, my stance in the matter doesn't affect them in any capacity. Saying "I bet Burger King would make more money by using square patties like Wendy's" doesn't matter. You can go eat wherever you like.

Bitching here does nothing.
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>>183294494
Alarak giving them the business
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>>183294553
firebat was shown as potential in dev hero at blizzcon 2015

brood war remastered comes out soon

do the math

need a light?
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Got this gem from youtube
>Thrall says in the Legion Pre-patch that the elements no longer respond to him the same way anymore. Clearly the elements are pissed at thrall too for killing Garrosh against the orc rules too.
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>>183294884
xD
>>
I FUCKING KNEW IT

OUR BOY GARRY COMING TO HOTS

HOW WILL MAIEVFAGS WILL EVER RECOVER HAHAHAHAHA

SOMEONE POST THE PIC OF THRALL CARRYING A CROSS AND GARROSH LAUGHING
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>>183292982
>How is a win more ability that requires nothing other than attentiveness, luck and already being ahead not bad design?
Not everything needs to be complex for the sake of complexity.
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>>183294884
Why are they too pissed too let him use Doomhammer too great effect? Too deny him too use the Doomhammer is too dumb too comprehend. Too whole expansions we cared too help this guy and now too talk too him you have too do some bullshit too see him at all
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>>183295186
>>183292962
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>>183294884

But that's true

He even states they don't respond to him since he killed garrosh in nagrand

Why? He was getting beat in an honour duel without armour or weapons so he abused magic to crush Garrosh. Lorewise shamans use elemental powers at the behest of the elemental. Piss them off and they clearly abandon you.
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>>183294819
Slammin'
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>>183295186
>implying maiev posters don't say it's maiev every time they do hint reveal
did you just get here from reddit?
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>>183295275
But that was Draenor's elements which he couldn't even control properly to begin with, why would Azeroth's elements know or give a shit?
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>>183293748
I don't play WoW why did Garrosh wanna invade pandaland
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>>183270174
>>183270121
>>183270117
>>183270024
>it's real
BEST WARCHIEF INCOMING
BEST DAY OF MY LIFE INCOMING

HELL YES FUCKING FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>183295417
Unironic "give clay :DDDD" /int/ memes.

Then he kept finding more and more ancient Chinese artifacts that could be used to blow up something or other and it just snowballed from there.
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>>183295380
elements are like black people they all know each other like the regular elements and the elements of pandaria
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>>183295275
>using elements on a different planet in a different timeline
>for some reason the elements on azeroth hate him for killing garrosh who summoned corrupted molten giants who almost destroyed the world and used dark shamanism to twist the elements
yeah no that's retarded. The actual reason is Thrall is still feeling guilty about that and he just lost his confidence, he was able to still use the elements on the broken shore
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>>183295215
A drawback is added complexity. You could just have it be a normal move, with normal range and normal damage.

You already added complexity, but one that leads to a completely binary situation for balancing.
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>>183294270
>TWO (2) OW in a row
>Ana so she can ruin two games at once
>Alexstrasza
>Not Maiev
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>>183294884
I've heard a theory about that actually. Thrall was used to working with elements of azeroth where at one point in time he was basically an [ASPECT], which would have been much easier to handle.

Then we go over to AltDraenor, and thrall comments a few times during frostfire ridge questline that the elements of draenor are harder to work with, they're wilder, they're more primal and blah blah blah. He gets into his fight with Garrosh and he *forces* the elements to aid him, violating the Mok'gora.

The doomhammer is a sentient artifact, that has elementals in it, and it goes "Whoa, that's dark shaman territory." Shamans traditionally have a bond of mutual respect between the elements and themselves, and it's a very big balancing act. Dark shamans however dominate and force element(al)s to do their bidding. So when thrall gets back to Azeroth, the doomhammer is all "Hey other elemental friends.... this bad thing happened and thrall did some dark shaman shit". And then the azerothian elements are like "fuck no, nope nope nope nope".

Not sure if you ever saw the Harbingers: Gul'dan cinematic short thingy, but part of the reason that Gul'dan was unable to become a shaman is because when draenor teased gul'dan with power and the rescinded the offer, Gul'dan attempted to reach out and seize it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3QJ8Pgjj3c
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>Garrosh
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>>183295705
>non canon lore

lmao @ blizz
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>>183292981
>velen
and i don't even want the retard added
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>>183295626
>You could just have it be a normal move, with normal range and normal damage.
It's an execute.
It deals shit damage if it's not the kill threshold.
There's your complexity, fuck off autist.
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>>183294494
Forgot this gem.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Alarak/Alarak%20-%20Default/AlarakBase_Pissed10.mp3
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>>183294270
I enjoy junkrat in overwatch, but he would seriously ruin this game. Overwatch really just ruins the fuck out of this game
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>>183295680
Ana would fit perfectly in hots
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>>183295680
Ana is unlikely due to the fact that her ult is handled with Morales.
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>>183295680
>maiev is so unimportant a siege tank and faerie dragon was added before her
Never Ever
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>>183295853
Shaddup, he'd be great.

>>183292981
Velen, Maraad, Archimonde, KJ, Yrel
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>>183295917
They were added before garrosh as well
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>>183295972
pure anti-fun
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>>183295857
Ana can fuck off.

>>183295917
>Fenix was so unimportant a Probe was added before him.
>Mephisto and Baal were so unimportant we have fuck all Diablo heroes
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>>183295992
Before wow he was a nobody. Anyone that cared about the lore stopped caring after wc3.
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>>183295972
No he wouldn't, just spamming long range aoe attacks, traps and remote bombs that hit harder than aba mine and rip tire. He would be pure cancer
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>implying that the portal isn't a new stage instead of a character
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>>183293828
anti-hero
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>>183293289
>When it's applied equally it's not an amendment violation.
These rules are not enforced equally at all though. One of the things everyone can probably agree on is how horrendously inconsistent the application of these rules are.
>It's basically a "We eject anyone arguing or otherwise being disruptive from the premises" type clause.
I get your point but comparing it to any sort of real life situation is a huge part of the problem. In real life you don't have the ability to mute people who are being disruptive.
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>>183295853
Her Ult is just Morales Stim drone. She would need new ults or something. Or they would need to remove Stim drone from Morales and add something else.
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>>183295478

He didn't kill guldan right there and then
colossal retard
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>>183294130
>Blizzard never wrote anyone anywhere good as Garrosh in 3 expansions
>Maraad which had some damn fine vignette and model killed off for some stupid nary sue goat bitch
>he never prevented this from happening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6LIty6Uea4
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>classic xul
>stukov
>garrosh
Is it just me or are the hots devs based?
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>>183296120
They added a siege tank and faerie dragon before kel'thuzad, archimonde or kil'jaeden so those characters aren't important?
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>>183296304
unironically the best Blizzard team
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>>183296046
>Mephisto
I doubt anyone even remembers what he did
>Baal
Skinny azmodan.
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So who's the hero after Garrosh?
I bet it's Mei.
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>>183296373
I guess actualy BECAUSE Archimonde, Kil'Jaeden and Kel'Thuzad are so important they aren't releasing them yet. Either keeping up for some events like Blizzcon (as mentioned before) or just thinking about how to make a proper kit since those heroes aren't allowed to fail or disappoint, too many hopes are set up for them

If they just copy lich from dota or WC3 (which is almost similar except for death and decay) I don't think people would approve that
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>>183296557
I wonder if they could add Soldier 76.
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>>183296292
Like that video is shit, he just kills some random nobody orc and lets all those survivors get killed. Maraad is a huge fuck up.
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>>183296557
>Mei
That's never gonna happen, Doom Fist will get in first and will be the first OW villain in HOTS. He will play like Vi from LOL.
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>>183296662
Yeah same for Maiev
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>>183294270
But which of these heroes are planned for Blizzcon?
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>>183296791
Because annoying the fuck out of illidan is such an important plot point.
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>>183294270
>No guys for real, THIS leak is the legit one, not the last fifteen
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>>183296745
>not Reaper or Hanzo
>not wanting to die die die or Ryuu ga waga teki wo kurau! (竜が我が敵を喰らう)the whole lane
lel
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>>183296791
I don't know why people want Maiev right now, the model quality just gets better and better. If you look at like the huge advance they made in model quality from like stitches to Rag it's so huge. If they release her around Blizzcon the model quality will be so much better than what is released now.
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>>183294750
The amount of assumptions you make about me discredits anything you have to say on the subject.
>HOTS would be raking in the dough if people like you wouldn't get banned
I've never been banned, I've been silenced for a day before.
>You after all spend way more money than people who don't flip out in chat.
I've been playing since June 2014 and probably spent a total of 30$ on this game, so sorry, once again your assumption is wrong.
>Yes, I trust a company with a marketing department more than you and some anecdotal evidence.
Yeah just ignore all of the information available and trust Blizzard because "they have a marketing department" as if that makes any sense. They make billions of dollars a year retard, of course they have a fucking marketing department. You don't even know if their marketing department would be the ones making decisions about whether or not to police in-game behavior, just more idiotic assumptions.

And yes, bitching does something if the people you're bitching at are capable of listening and having a discussion, unlike you who have already made your mind up but still feel the need to keep espousing your idiotic presumptuous nonsense.
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Why won't maievfags admit she just isn't that important to the lore and they only want her because they are waifufags?
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>>183297013
>Reapear
>literally Valla
>Hanzo
>literally Tyrande
Lol! No thanks.
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>>183297202
She's really important to Illidan lore though.
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>>183296670
He sure is a fuck up but in the end we got:
>no Shatt raid
>no closure to his fuckup
And you could easily make a random orc into some boss asshole,just make him do bunch of horrible shit in the leveling zone through quests and give him slightly different model.

You would be suprised how easily can some random goons gain recognition.
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Some spoilerific lines about some folks that'll join Heroes, sooner or later. First, Azshara and Shandris.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Tyrande/Tyrande%20-%20Default/Tyrande_IntroQuestion_Azshara00.mp3
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Tyrande/Tyrande%20-%20Default/Tyrande_IntroResponse_Azshara00.mp3
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Tyrande/Tyrande%20-%20Default/Tyrande_IntroQuestion_Shandris00.mp3
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Tyrande/Tyrande%20-%20Default/Tyrande_IntroResponse_Shandris00.mp3
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>>183297272
>hanzo is Tyrande
No.
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>>183297142
>I don't know why people want Maiev right now
I want to play my Warcraftfu
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>>183297318
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1874264-A-collection-of-all-known-cut-delayed-content-in-Warlords-of-Draenor
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>>183297202
She is actually in the most night elf missions outside of Tyrande, she was motivated by vengence against Illidan (and Tyrande) but she was important to the story and how it was progressed. If you didn't play WC3 you probably wouldn't know though
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>>183296663
raynor skin
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>>183294556
No its not, the leak before Malthael had all the current releases and it was

Malthael
Stukov/Garrosh
Ana

That was the last real leak and it was done right after D.Va's release. That reddit post just seemed to grab every leak thats been in this thread and mashed them up into one leak.
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Oh, and Daddy is coming too. When, fuck knows. Grommash Hellscream. Or it could just be a skin for Garrosh, there's special lines for skins.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Tyrande/Tyrande%20-%20Default/Tyrande_KillGrommash00.mp3
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>>183297318
That literally has nothing to do with Yrel, Yrel's story was cut out of the game as well she just shows up and loses a bunch and then appears for the last raid. The draenei story in general was cut out of WoD

I don't think a random orc that maraad one shot would be a worthwhile boss either.
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When Garrosh abilities will be revealed?
How much time was between Stukov reveal and highlight?
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>>183295818
That's different than no damage.

Why do you want this so bad? You know everyone will hate it. All cooldown resets people hate. Especially burst.
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>>183297731
Abilities tomorrow for sure.
Talents tomorrow too (bit later than abilities) or monday with PTR.

That's how it's been working lately for new heroes.
They're suprisingly good at sticking to the schedule.
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>>183297478
You never played TFT did you? If you had you'd know she does nothing but chase and fail to catch illidan.
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>>183284082
>>183284431
>>183284528
Shes a death knight now and part of the four horsemen faggit
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>>183297336
Illidan and Azshara+ Maiev.

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Illidan/Illidan%20-%20Default/Illidan_IntroQuestion_Azshara00.mp3
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Illidan/Illidan%20-%20Default/Illidan_IntroResponse_Azshara00.mp3

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Illidan/Illidan%20-%20Default/Illidan_IntroQuestion_Maiev00.mp3
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Illidan/Illidan%20-%20Default/Illidan_IntroResponse_Maiev00.mp3
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Illidan/Illidan%20-%20Default/Illidan_KillMaiev00.mp3
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>>183298120
She did succeed, only for Kael and Vash to bust Illidan out
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>>183298120
>fail to catch illidan.
WRONG.
Salami man and Vashj freed him after he got caught.

>>183298253
Death Knight Whitemane was a mistake
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>>183298301
Azshara WHEN!?
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>>183297686
Why not?
>make that random orc right hand of a zone leader like Blackhand just how Doomhammer was
>Maraad recognizes the guy
>add couple cutscenes and implications how horrible the guy was
>Maraad chases him though the zone
>Shattrah invasion starts, guy is leading the main attack
>you go inside with Maraad, he talks his alternate version down and promises to take him down
There you go, a boss with a setup.
>>183298120
She did catch him though and then Kael/Vansjh rescued him?
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>>183296221
Again, a mute button doesn't apply retroactively. And it doesn't matter to Blizzard.

Blizzard doesn't want you to play their game because they think you are worth less to them as a consumer than others.

As another analogy, let's say the "offense" was something that could easily be rectified. Like, a no shirt no shoes policy. If you show up without a shirt and then put one on, sense would dictate that they should let you in. But if you kept doing that, or hell, even if you didn't and they just didn't let you in after your very first offense, it is completely in their rights to not serve you.

Is it bad business? Maybe. But they made a decision and you have no sway.
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>dragon shire
>playing rexxar bot
>absolutely crushing my lane
>get a counter kill everytime they try to rotate on me
>secure 3 level lead for team
>team gets cocky, makes awful dives and they all feed
>blame rexxar because "most rexxars are bad and cant micro"
>he says that right after I get a triple kill
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>>183298435
He would at most be a quest boss, that orc was on demon blood too so he was way stronger than he would be if they fought in WoD, and Maraad destroyed him then.
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>>183298301
You forgot
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Illidan/Illidan%20-%20Default/Illidan_Pissed11.mp3
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>>183298435
>She did catch him though and then Kael/Vansjh rescued him?
Which mission was this? Don't remember it.
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>>183298629
Knew I missed something. Though that one does not do much to confirm Maiev is coming.
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>>183298664
Oh now I remember it . It wasn't the NE campaign. It was the butthurt elf campaign.
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>>183298664
http://wow.gamepedia.com/The_Search_for_Illidan_(WC3_BloodElf)

Chapter 4
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>>183298612
Blizzard pulled out stupider shit out of their asses,no? You could also do things like a gauntlet run to reach refugees or whatever.
>>183298664
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_snkU4VkC5Y
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help me win on grandpa's basement
do I ignore the skulls or what
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>INFINITE dragonblade

how the fuck is this balanced?

Also I noticed I completed my shuriken quest while dragonblading people so that's cool too
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>>183298495
Not related except the map.
>dragon shire
>normal comps on both teams
>no dragon spawned until level 18
>all we did was rotating lanes & shrines, pushing minion waves, skirmrishing
>first dragon at level 18
>second dragon is end of the game
it feels like nothing happened yet the game ended
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>>183298664
Right after you escape the Dalaran sewers/prison, and bonus mission if you unlocked it. Think it's 3rd or 4th.
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Does Rag have great waveclear? Not counting Lava Wave
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>>183297158
Good luck in your pointless, self-righteous crusade.

Even if you convinced literally everyone in the thread that Blizzard deserves not a single cent because of their decision to silence people, that is a tiny drop in profits.

And you're not even able to do that.
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>>183298992
considering all his abilities have aoe i would say no
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>>183298843
Literally what would it matter? You are going back fighting all the warlords from the RTS games where people actually liked the stories, then you just throw in some random grunt for maraad to kill. No matter what they did the story would have been completely eclipsed by the other characters we went there to fight.

Ah neat random orc #3490 is the one maraad killed and needs to kill again! Lets GOOOOO
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>>183270024
>>183270117
>>183270121
>>183270174
>>183270306
>>183270365

Reminder that Garrosh did nothing wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_pyF3bM6Rg
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>>183270163
>anyone not 'on the spectrum' caring about Boring Draft Mode at all
Ranked QM is the only legitimate game mode.

>wasting 5 minutes before each match being bored before you can actually play the game
Nope. No thanks.
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>>183299135
This guy speaks through his nose like crazy, but garrosh husbando faggots are the worst of all I can't watch that shit.
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>>183298992
Pretty good, but he has to be in melee range and spend all 3 cooldowns on it so it's not GREAT compared to e.g. KT or Jaina.
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Can you please explain this to me? Blizzard only release shit heroes all the time and now they literally release the two heroes in a row for which /hotsg/ begged for years now, to the point where they became a massive memes here, and now blizz releases both of them? what the fuck? how is it possible?
And you of course know what that means, the next fuccboi after garrosh will be kellthuzad
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>>183299284
Garrosh is literally the best orc and best warchief in the Warcraft IP, though. No husbando-fagging needed.
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>>183299280
Draft modes would be fun IF voice chat existed and I could communicate and strategize with my team.

Blizz is too incompetent to add voice though, so I will stick to QM.
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>>183299081
Give Maraad some lines and it would matter. Same way Bolvar was elevated from a throwaway character to a future expansion placeholder.
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>>183299284
How can you not like his hard brown chest? If anyone was fine to husbando it is garrosh
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>>183293289
>>183298468
>owning a business gives you the right to violate basic human rights
Nope. Blizzard has zero ethical right (and will be zero legal right with the 1st Amendment being extended to all publically traded companies) to violate your basic human right to free expression.

Every person can simply mute someone who hurts their fee fees. Easy.
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Reminder that Garrosh had some of the best quotes in all of Warcraft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ1yxY8olFc
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>>183299471
Saurfang was elevated from a meme NPC in the front of Orgrimmar to the racial leader of the Orcs now.
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>>183299327
It was only a matter of time, all of these heroes have been known to be in various stages of development for years.

Maybe they are trying to keep hype high until Blizzcon by releasing heavy hitters.
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>>183299807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zk_Fx-bRL0
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>>183299697
I'm 12, American, and I just learned about the constitution, the post.
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>>183298876
>INFINITE reverse amp
how the fuck is this balanced?
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>>183299471
Maraad could have been a good character, but he never got a story. I'm talking about the random orc, he would have still be a nobody regardless of what they did in that expansion.
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>>183299697
They aren't violating your rights.
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>>183299697
How did a 60 year old mom of 10 from Georgia end up here instead of Facebook? That's not how "free expression" works.
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>>183299959
Its attached to Lucio
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>>183299697
In America, there is no legal protection for a human being's right to free expression, other than the restricton that the goverment itself won't violate it (unless it really really wants to because terrorists or something).

You might think that it is ethically wrong for Blizzard to restrict speech, but it is not legally wrong. And profit-motivated capitalist companies have no reason to care about whether you think they are ethical.
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Teach me how to be OP with gengu, because I can't solo anyone
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>>183299937
>i'm an autism spectrum an-cap who thinks private companies have the ethical right to violate basic human rights
Reminder that ancaps and lolbertarians are literally subhuman autists and are almost as destructive to human civilization as marxist liberals are.
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>>183298468
>Again, a mute button doesn't apply retroactively.
What does this mean? What are you trying to imply? How is someone potentially saying a single line of mean words to someone else anything other than a completely trivial minor inconvenience? The mute button makes it so that instead of saying an infinite amount of mean things, they can only possibly say 1 mean thing before you know to mute them. So are you trying to say that any amount of mean things being said is completely unacceptable? If so, that is an unreasonable expectation, and online gaming, and life in general, probably isn't for you. And guess what? Blizzard wants to cater to snowflakes like you SO BADLY that they made an option to completely mute all chat in-game (even though communicating in a team game should be much more important than your precious feelings) So why not just disable chat completely if you're so sensitive? You get all of these options to protect your sensitive ass and that still isn't good enough?
>Blizzard doesn't want you to play their game because they think you are worth less to them as a consumer than others.
This is nonsense. You must be an exceptionally stupid person to make this statement unless you are a Blizzard employee working in that department, which, we all know you aren't. You are assuming several things that you don't actually know anything about.

I'm going to ignore the ridiculousness of your analogy and just say that I haven't said anything about them not having the right to do what they do. I'm basically just saying it's unreasonable, counterproductive and condescending. A shop that banned people from shopping there because they didn't conform to the dress code once would probably go out of business really quickly, luckily for Blizzard they have WoW subscriptions and now Overwatch to keep them afloat for a few more years and they can afford to keep hemorrhaging money on HoTS.
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>>183300117
dont solo 1v1 people except dumb helpless squishies

mostly,
>go to teamfight
>be raynor
>whenever you see someone get low, go EQ them then E back out
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>>183300089
made me laugh
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New hero
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>>183300176
>1st amendment
>basic human rights
You don't know the difference, don't you?
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>>183270365
Yes please. Anti Mobility rage-aholic Tank
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"They CAN do this so that means they SHOULD do it and are completely justified in doing so."

t. mindless sheep blizzdrones who masturbate to cartoon pandas
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YOU FUCKING BASTARD BLIZZARD
ALL HE WANTED WAS A MAIEV REVEAL AND YOU BROKE HIS FUCKING HEART
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>>183299697
Not on their platform. They are completely within their legal right.

You don't have power. You don't have a choice. Your freedom does not apply here.

And if that bothers you, you can go play other games. On other clients. Because that is how business works.
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>>183300330
>americans
>knowing things
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>>183292000
>reduce the difficulty in baby's first moba
the whole "click on genji to counter" argument is like a cure that's just as bad as the disease.

>>183294396
>retards think she isn't just on the shelf waiting to fill a release gap like zuljin was.
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>>183300330
>>183300435
>>183300094
>>183300067
>>183300429
>ancap autists think i'm talking about the 1st amendment
I'm referring to the universal and basic human right of free expression, which exists regardless of if your government recognizes it, or if it chooses to violate it via 'hatespeech' laws, or if a private company violates it because your government allows them to.

I don't have a right to violate the basic human rights of a black person at my privately owned grocery store by kicking them out of basis of their skin color, and I also don't have the right to violate the basic human right of expression in my video game.

If Timmy gets his feelings hurt, he can use the /mute button.

>lolbertarians actually siding with marxists against free speech
wew
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>>183300403
More like they can do this, therefore a 19 year old on a Sri Lankan beatboxing imageboard who's angry that he can't use their service to call people niggers can do literally nothing about it. That's the meaning of the word "can".
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>>183300525
rights do not exist except as a social construct, fag
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>>183300315
>Never ending laughter
>All skills are just laughs
>Random damage, from nothing to instakill
>Trait reads: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I hate all two lane maps
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I bet there is already somewhere bara with garrosh and varian/thrall
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>>183300601
Rights for sapient beings are universal and objective, and are ultimately derived from the laws of physics, just like all ethics are.
>inb4 muh spooks
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>>183300525
>Everyone who disagrees with my retarded belief that I should be able to do literally anything with no repercussions even if I'm using a private service that I had to agree to EULA in order to use is an ancap
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>>183300525
>free speech is a human right
LMAO
Holy shit, you're getting with dumber every post.
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>>183300718
Same.
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>>183300762
i have the universal right for you to suck my dick and stop butthurtposting about getting muted
every right other than that one is a social construct though
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>>183300762
>>183300525
>>183300180
>>183299697
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Bane of necromancers when?
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>>183300532
"You can do whatever you want, your customer's opinions don't matter"

t. never had a job
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>>183300180
I personally don't care. But the idea that a mute button is enough to protect the kinds of sensitive idiots who are flocking to the world's most casual MOBA is absurd to me.

>>183300180
>just say that I haven't said anything about them not having the right to do what they do. I'm basically just saying it's unreasonable, counterproductive and condescending.

Okay. Sure. I can believe that. I genuinely doubt that it is losing them more money than the alternative.
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>>183300525
Jesus, remember when we were college freshmen and unironically acted like this?
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>>183300718
Battlefield is pretty great. Mines isn't that bad. It's not that great either. Hanamura and Brexit are dogshit though.
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>>183300757
I bet some people fantasize about Grommash getting his alternate history dad drunk enough to coerce him into sucking his dick.
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>>183300403
They do this and unless you propose a meaningful way of making them change it, you're wasting your breath.
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>>183300921
http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Xul/Xul%20-%20Default/0NecromancerBase_KillAzmodan00.mp3

Maybe.
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>>183293146
You know I got HOTS for the space goats.
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>>183300921
Duriel would be such a fun hero. As lord of pain he revels in dishing it out, and if he cant dish it out he's more than happy with taking it. He'd be an excellent bruiser that could basically be summed up as a "fucking living battering ram". He moves damn quick, but in basically straight lines. He smacks your shit around with short range stuns. God help you if you get pinned between him and a wall.

I'd probably drop the (un)holy freeze aura from him though. It might be a short duration ult similar to reverse amp.
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>>183300931
Now you're getting it. This is why everyone makes fun of white moms who threaten to call the manager because Kayden and Jayden aren't allowed to take a shit in the middle of a food court.
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>>183300932
Why do you think "sensitive idiots" need to be "protected"? I would argue that creating a "safe space" only serves to do them more harm in the long run when they encounter the real world.
>I genuinely doubt that it is losing them more money than the alternative.
I guess it comes down to numbers, are there more snowflakes or more "toxic" people? I think there are more "toxic" people than snowflakes, the snowflakes are just a lot more vocal and most of Blizzard's employees are probably snowflakes themselves, but ultimately most people don't fall into either of these categories and don't care at all.
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>>183300931
When one 'customer' is being a giant prick to other customers, it's in your best interest to make him not be a giant prick to those other customers anymore.

You can use the service, but you can't use it to be a giant prick.
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>>183270636
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The toxic community needs to rise up and let our voices be heard. Blizzard is a company of a bunch of ugly nerds making video games. They have no moral or ethical right to police people's speech in their games.

How would you like it if your ISP suddenly turned off your internet service because they saw you going on a porn website? Or any sort of website they deemed inappropriate, like 4chan? It's their private platform, right? They're a private company and can do whatever they want right? No one is forcing you to buy their service, right?

Convenient how companies like Blizzard and twitch want everyone to get up in arms about net neutrality when they basically engage in the exact same practices themselves.
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>>183277935
the more murkies and probiouses we get the better imo
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>>183301936
>The toxic community needs to rise up and let our voices be heard.
Silenced players don't have voices, subhuman.
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>>183301936
While I genuinely wanna agree with you, the sheer number of terrible players flaming others for being shit just makes me want to permanently silence this community as a whole.
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>>183301936
>They have no moral or ethical right to police people's speech in their games.

Nobody gives a shit. It's legal. Go back to jerking off to the American flag.
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>>183301936
>this guy is silenced in game
Bless you Blizz
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>>183301320
Exactly. I'm under the impression that there are more of them than you. Which was literally what I said to the very first post.

And no, they don't need to be protected, but if there is anyone who is gonna quit the game in a huff and is prone to impulsive purchases, it is sensitive idiots.
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>>183301410
You're right. I guess I just should stop believing that Blizzard care about making quality games, building healthy esports scenes and stuff like that, you know, the things that they're presumably good at. I should just accept the fact that their priorities now are making money and social justice. Times sure have changed.
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>>183301936
>They have no moral or ethical right to police people's speech in their games.
oh did we get silenced or something
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>>183302337
Literally nobody at Blizzard, or here for that matter, will notice or care if you stop playing all their games forever. That's why your retarded opinion doesn't matter. Go right ahead.
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>>183297336
Azshara would be cool. Wait, she never appeared in the games so far outside of the past?

So she is pretty much confirmed to be a villain of the next old god expansion at least.
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>>183302275
There's nothing wrong with a terrible player calling another terrible player terrible. There's nothing wrong with being terrible at a video game. Getting upset about someone calling you terrible at a video game is more of a problem.
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>>183302337
It isn't about social justice.

And if you genuinely believed it was ever about anything other than making money, you are tremendously naive.

Times change. What makes money changes.
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>>183302275
This game would be dramatically improved by removing all chat functions
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>>183302474
Yeah, she is probably a boss next expansion after we defeat the legion and imprison sargeras. So obviously the next set up is Azshara
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>>183302539
Then go play tetris if you don't want to communicate with people

This game still needs all chat and voice chat tho
and a better replay
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>>183302306
You sure seem to care a lot, because I haven't mentioned quitting the game but you really seem to want me to.
>That's why your retarded opinion doesn't matter.
What opinion would that be? I haven't stated any opinions at all, only facts.
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>get 5 chests
>get 4 days of stimpacks
>don't really want to play
Fug.

At least I get best zagara.
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>>183302489
There's lots of things wrong with being terrible at something you want to be good at. That's the point of video games, pretending you are good at something, even if it isn't genuine.

False achievement, false accomplishment.
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>>183302337
A game in which you are silenced is higher quality and healthier than a game in which I have to deal with you spewing all this nonsense out into teamchat, though.
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>>183291737
>private service
>provided by a private company
>which is allowed to manage its private service how it wants within the law
>being mad they don't let you be a cockknob in chat
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>>183302535
>And if you genuinely believed it was ever about anything other than making money, you are tremendously naive.
How would you know? During what period did you develop games at Blizzard?
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>>183302337
I'm about as anti-socjus as it comes, and I still don't see a problem with silencing obnoxious faggots like you. I flame pretty fucking regularly and I've only been silenced twice in two years, and both times were when I was tilting on big losing streaks.

Your rights are not being violated you stupid twat, it is literally a code of conduct that says "Dont be a massive fuckhead or we won't even give you the opportunity to be a massive fuckhead".

Quit being a fuckhead, fuckhead.
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Is Raynor the assassin with the slowest waveclear of all assassins? fucking supports clear waves faster
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>GARROSH is next

thank god we're getting a REAL ORC at last.

so glad i didnt blow my shekels on memethael or stukov
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>>183302672
There is no need for communications to be built into the game itself. Plenty of better options exist
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>>183303123
nova of course
at least raynor buffs the minions' atk speed
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>>183300718
i don't like a single map
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>>183302826
>There's lots of things wrong with being terrible at something you want to be good at
What? Like what? Wanting something isn't the same as thinking it's true.
>That's the point of video games, pretending you are good at something, even if it isn't genuine.
What the fuck? No it's not, the point is to have fun. Do people actually play games for this reason? Holy fuck if you do please kys
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>>183303236
Nova with Explosive Rounds waveclears faster than Raynor.
>>
All of the leaked heroes are good, including Ana and Junkrat.
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>every game I've played as genji in qm has been versus specialists that outpush the living shit out of us while my team dies repeatedly on dumb fucking engages

I have an easier team carrying on Abathur than genji. On genji if you're behind in xp you're just fucked because of his ass waveclear if your teammates are allergic to soaking, Aba gets the xp and basically controls one of your teammates heroes if they're being bad and you can pick up the slack. I
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>>183303123
if you get a penetrating shot in when minions are approaching wave it's not too bad. With W up he also has 1.25*1.3=1.625 attacks per second and he outranges shit.

Archer & leader minions are the things that do lots of damage (to other minions) but they have like no hp, kill them first. Warrior minions have like double the hp of archer/leaders but only hit other minions for like 7 damage. With the archers + leaders out of the way your own wave will start to gain in size over time.

http://www.nexusmaster.com/siege
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>>183303526
If you are playing QM you win more as a specialist I find. Wave clear is so important.
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>>183302971
That's what the mute button is for bud.
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>>183289620
>Thrall not with the team on a fight
"Off on one of your little "Spirit Journies" Thrall?"
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>tfw Trump is going to remove americans soon

Based Trump.
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>>183303071
Alright. Sure, I can't know. My assumption that they are a company that wants to make money is clearly more baseless than yours.

After all, surely they didn't create healthy esports scenes and quality games for anything for money, right?

Do you not get how absurd you sound? You're acting like they are a band that "sold out".
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>>183303612
yes, basically. Gul'Dan is one of my highest winrate heroes, you just can't expect teammates to understand "hmm maybe we should leave this dumb teamfight over nothing while their aba/xul/zagara soaks all empty lanes and basically walks around uncontested", playing a hero that can delete their stupid shit is almost necessary
>>
Garrosh Ultimates
Bleed based on movemnt
and
Execute

trait: Unyielding: Roots only slow Garrosh, Stuns slow him, silence him and reduce his damage
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>>183303310
You do too, dipshit. It is the psychological basis for games instead of toys.
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>>183303537
Yeah, I should clarify I don't mean in a scenario where you have all the time in the world, in which case an appropriate Q cuts the time in half, it's more clear minion wave -> rotate to another lane/objective

Kael does that with one swift D->Q whereas Raynor has to waste all the time in the world even with stim, idk it just feels SLOW
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This is 4 months old but now it's RELEVANT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_pyF3bM6Rg
Damn this is so tragic. Thrall acted like a warchief in vanilla, killing alliance scum and shit and turned out into some SJW asshole while blaming everything on Garrosh. Fuck Thrall and fuck blizzard what they have done to Thrall and Garrosh
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>>183304095
>that passive
I'm ready.

>bleed based on movement
I long to see Genji tear himself in half with a dash.
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>>183303954
>You're acting like they are a band that "sold out".
That's basically exactly what they are. The fact that other developers are even able to compete with Blizzard, let alone outdo them is a testament to the fact that Blizzard's has gone downhill tremendously since their peak (WotLK/SC2 WoL)
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HAHAHAHA YES

THE TIME HAS COME

I WILL NEVER PLAY ANOTHER GAME OR ANOTHER HERO
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>>183304095
Is this legit?
>Execute
Well that has to be expected
>Bleed on movement
So bloodcyka ult, I hope it deals fuckton damage. Genji would surely enjoy this. And what about this ult + Stukov? You can instakill everyone if you push someone across the map by that
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>>183304228
>this bloodthirsty villain who has done nothing but villainous things and showed no remorse doing so is a good guy!
I remember being 12
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>>183303679
A game in which you are already muted without players having to hit the button is better for everyone but you (and you don't matter)
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>>183304543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wc-jsKgxJs

>Bloodthirsty
>Villan
>Villanous things

Tell me more you alliance faggot
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>>183304432
>that pic
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>>183304475
No Anon made it up on the spot
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>>183304095
>Bleed based on movemnt


We bloodseeker now
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>>183304109
Just because you play hots so you can pretend to be married to lili doesn't mean others play for that reason. Some people play just for fun, some people play for the competition.
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>>183304095
>Bleed based on movemnt
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>>183269907
New
>>183304876
>>183304876
>>183304876
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>>183304747
>shows up literally right after the bomb is dropped to save face in front of that tauren
villainous as fuck
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>>183270163
I agree with the first couple points but I do want both those characters
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>>183305065
>>183305065
>>183305065
>>183305065
new bread
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>>183304589
No, I'm pretty sure 4 people having to click a mute button is worth the extra money Blizzard makes from the 5th person.
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>>183304423
You really think that Blizzard was an "art for art's sake" thing that was successful on the product alone? As opposed to a game studio trying to get some money stumbled into success and coasted on it until momentum fell off?

That is a tremendously romantic point of view.
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>>183304970
Competition is literally the definition of making something not meaningful meaningful by attributing achievement to it.
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>>183292982
Put it this way; the ability exists in at least 5 other games I've played and nobody has EVER complained about it.
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>>183305805
I can believe that. It being a mainstay can easily color perception.
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>>183306172
Stealth is also a mainstay and people constantly complain about it.

Or are you agreeing with me? I can't tell. Unironic sperglord here.
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>>183305805
not everyone play the same games you do
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>>183304095
Q-Invoke Combat-Skillshotcharge-Channeled root and dot. Channel isn't broken by damage. Garraosh tosses his axe down and pummels the opponent while rooting them
W - Rage swipe - after two seconds all damage Garrosh has receives is unleashed in an aoe around him. He heals for a percentage of the damage dealt
E - STRIKE NOW! - Allies gain 100% attack damage on their next attack and movement speed for 3 seconds

Basically built to dog pile the shit out of Mobility fags
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>>183306513
We're honestly both taking fairly neutral stances in the matter. Not everything is a debate.
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>>183282838
I actually want him in the mech more than the gyro
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