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/mggg/ - Monster Girl Games General #148

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Veiny Tail Edition

This general is for the discussion of games containing Monster Girls, main game of discussion is Monster Girl Quest, but people are encouraged to introduce new games.

News:
Monster Girl Quest Paradox 2 is out.
Some guy called Rogue has started helping with the Paradox translation process.
The first bare minimum UI patch for Part 2 is out

How to use the latest non-patch Paradox translation: https://pastebin.com/a0VDpMji
(HAVE FUN WAITING TWO YEARS FOR CORE PLOT POINTS OF PART TWO)

Monster Girl Quest Paradox 2 download: https://mega.nz/#!PI1WiAKZ!exKwDBYVhJ8QK1w3b9M4XCipjv5GgDSyHZ5d_wrlo2w (or check the MGQ pastebin for a torrent)
2.02 Update: https://mega.nz/#!bpsgGRBa!uqTOpkqTHd0nO9E9w0Wu6lTkKuufNVOlWnEOrvgT1FE
Rough Guide: https://pastebin.com/yKjNkSME (WIP) (Also, obviously spoilers)

Monster Girl Quest (MGQ): http://pastebin.com/CGWN0k1u
Monster Girl Island (3D game): http://monstergirlisland.com/
Mobile games with Monster Girls: http://pastebin.com/NFaxEGib
Zell’s game Forest of Blue Skin: http://pastebin.com/hqc0JYhJ
Quest Failed: https://frostworks.itch.io/quest-failed
The Dungeon of Lulu Farea: Kill,Screw, Marry!: https://mega.nz/#!JmI2VDpT!KalSjtfGiwX0SmIhlFT-Y08DKf2jUkDltOba0flsqJ0

Previous Thread: >>183033359
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I love Ilias!
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Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooora
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Remember: Do not trust Shikibi, they do not understand love, they will kill you.
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absolutely fucking disgusting what Akazawa Red has done to my favorite characters I can't help but cringe every time I see it
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>>183174101
Only angels kill all humans though.
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>>183174304
And Adramelech but at least she's not shit like ilias.
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>>183174491
Reminder Setouchi is into monster girl pegging.
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featherp0n0s
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Results of the poll.
The conclusion is that 30% of /mggg/ is gay.
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>>183173762
That fucking neck will never not be trash

>>183174183
That's Hackazawa Red for you
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play monster girl gamu!
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why does everyone hate the art for alma she looks fine to me
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>>183174951
I want Neris h-scene the most because unlike shitty angels she has the mary sue womb of a monster lord, which means incest + impregnation is literally a non-issue.

Luka can impregnate Neris to his heart's content.
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>>183174101
From what I remember of her in Part 1, Astaroth seemed relatively reasonable. At the least, she isn't a psycho bitch like Morrigan.
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How did we go from this...
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>>183175998
to THIS?!
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>>183175707
Shikibi will still kill you no matter how reasonable they seem.

Do not trust them.
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>>183164373
Probaby a lot less than she would do with a hyperion, an anti-particle rifle, or a super vibrosword.

>>183174034
How would that work? A big part of the reason that Illias Kreuz was hated was because they mostly went after street-level peaceful monsters and had to resort to guerilla tactics that put humans in danger as well because they were too shit to fight monsters in open warfare.
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>>183176235
Didn't Ilias Kreuz kill more humans than monsters with their bombings?
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Have you guys noticed how images in this general are usually more SFW than other generals that aren't even about hentai games?
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>>183174729
And?
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>>183176316
Yes. One of the NPCs in Sabasa said such. Bombs don't do much of shit to monsters but will fuck humans up quite nicely. A child mermaid was almost directly next to one of the bombs they set off and all it did was rattle her and singe her tail.
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>>183176157
Left looks like a big bully succubus, right looks like a kawaii girl cosplaying as a succubus.
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I'd tell her to go fuck herself, but the problem is that she probably would do just that no matter if she won or lost to her Paradox universe counterpart.
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If Heinrich was only as strong as Eden, how could he have defeated Black Alice?
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>>183177605
>I'd tell her to go fuck herself
>to a shikibi shikisune
Shes going to take that literally and feed off of your lust.
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>>183177605
Just recruit both Tamamos
Jingaimamo on your dick, Shikimamo on your face
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>>183177773
Only if Jingaimamo is in sealed form for variety and Shikimamo's boobs are in my face for maximum motorboating fun.
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>>183177735
Monsters lords are actually pretty ow on power scale
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>>183178030
Only when compared to the likes of archangels and especially Ilias.
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>>183177735
>powerlevels
Doesn't matter if your Luka is level 1 trillion and deals infinite damage, if he's vulnerable to White Rabbit's time stop then he's DEAD.
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>>183177735
Black Alice is good bit weaker than Eden. Hence why their plan to eat Illias was dependent on distracting Eden.
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>>183178030
Incorrect, as Ilias's entry makes it clear that she's equal to the first monster lord.
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We should be asking the hard hitting questions. Where are Nero and Neris from exactly and how did the White Rabbit no know they have time manipulation powers if she's omnipresent across all worlds?
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do insects make good dancers?

i was thinking of trying a harder difficulty soon and i want a good dancer. i know there's a really good harpy dance out there, but i'm worried about their low durability
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Can anyone translate the menu?
I can't figure out what the heck ぶっぴがん is supposed to be
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>>183179650
Wait for part 2 translation.
Wait for part 3.
Wait for part 3 translation.
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>>183179832
They should allow Xelvy to tackle on more normal monstergirls. I'm finding his Eva, Fernandez and Queen Arachne extremely good.
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>>183176343
This triggers the anti-yuri fags.
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>>183176195
Just making an observation. I'd prefer Eden myself, her thirst for love would be easy to satisfy, and it wouldn't be too difficult to convince her to bear children from there. After all, she wants to be loved, and if she had children they would surely love her very much. Consider how enthralled she is at being treated as a big sister by Michala and Lucifina-chan, even when they bury her in sand, and then imagine her with a baby.

I'm sure you can see how it would be possible to convince her to bear children without much difficulty.
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>>183180067
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>>183180252
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>>183179650
Nero and Neris are heavily implied to be Luka and Alice's children from the VN (Their knowledge of Luka's adventures, using his techniques like vaporizing rebellion sword and flash kill, Nero having Tamamo's robes) as well as having both angel wings and Alice's crest when transformed. White Rabbit isn't a god in the sense of omnipresent, omniscient all powerful entity, but a manifestation of the concept of time that solely exists to correct paradoxes. It's remarked several times that White Rabbit cannot directly alter events herself, unless doing so doesn't disturb the natural order of things. Fighting Nero and Neris may not have those consequences, but it's clear that she's not strong enough to do so.
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If you fight Granberia, what are the odds she'll have 2 different scenes for if you beat her via pleasure attack or normally?
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Just started playing paradox
I honestly did not expect illias to go this direction
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>>183180545
If you use pleasure attacks she gets pissed.
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>>183180214
>I'm sure you can see how it would be possible to convince her to bear children without much difficulty.
Its Eden, she just wants love.

I am just here to warn that Shikibi do not want such a thing.
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Don't know how to feel about this.
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I don't have any money, what's this night show of Saki's, is it a rave?
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>>183180919
>I am just here to warn that Shikibi do not want such a thing.
Wrong
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>>183181385
Become friends with her by gifting her things. Don't ruin the surprise.
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>>183181468
DELETE THIS
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>>183181468
I am not wrong.

Do not trust the Shikibi.
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>>183181501
What? But this is something she does in Grandeur not a castle scene, the manager was talking about it along with the shows you can have your party put on. our shows and a night one, do I get in for free if I raise affections for her?
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>>183180919
>Eden just wants love
My point exactly!
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>>183181818
>do I get in for free if I raise affections for her?
Yes, she gives you a pass so you don't have to pay.
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>>183181818
yeah you get the saki pass
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>>183181887
Whats that do?
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>>183182474
you get into the night shows
for free
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>>183182524
What are night shows?
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Too many characters to choose from, I can't decide who to consistently keep on the team on my Alice run.
At least the Four(or Five) Bandits were ruled out when they couldn't keep up and stopped having much dialogue.
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>>183182575
Shows with Saki in them.
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>>183182575
Once again, the lobotomized mongoloid wastes everyone's time with stupid questions while feigning obliviousness. Thanks for shitting up the thread faggot.
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>>183180531
The White Rabbit is omnipresent though. As shown when Luka accuses her of eavsdropping and she claims that she can't not do it because she's everywhere at the same time.
And of course Nero and Nero are hinted to be Luka and Alice's kids. Anyone can see that. The issues isn't how the white rabbit operates or the fight between her and Nero. It's:
>How Nero and Neris even exist when the original timeline had fallen to Chaos before they were born
>How their abilities genuinely surprised the Rabbit when the only time that really happened is when she discovered just how much control over time that Chaos Black Alice had
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>>183182575
You should try playing the game.
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>>183182786
Dude have you ever heard of lying?
It's a thing some characters in games might do

Are we even sure that White Rabbit is actually what she says she is?
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>>183182786
>How Nero and Neris even exist when the original timeline had fallen to Chaos before they were born
How do we know this? Wouldn't the original timeline be the most safe from chaos?
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>>183182948
Why would the Rabbit lie about that and why would you assume she did when there is clearly evidence of it since she has meta knowledge of everyone and has has a full understanding of the Paradox that no one was around to see.
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>>183183521
Because Chaos Black Alice's creation and the birth of the alternate worlds happened in the past of the original timeline
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>>183183564
She could not foresee Neris when she fought Nanabi, she could not foresee Black Alice being able to see them in the Time-Fragment.

Shes not omniscience. She may have knowledge but she has been surprised.
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>>183183857
>She could not foresee Neris when she fought Nanabi
She wasn't so much suprised as mildly annoyed that Neris ruined her reenactment illusion.
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would a succubus prefer to get fucked silly or fucking a guy silly?
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>>183184246
Yes.
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>>183183812
>happened in the past of the original timeline
It didn't though, that's para world since the blast hit Heaven and Ilias knocking it down to earth.
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>>183183857
Omnscience and Omnipresence are very different concepts. There is no way for the white rabbit know what black alice can do unless she has already done it.
But she should be aware that nero can stop time as he's done it before. The fact that she didn't should show that they are very abnormal
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>>183184246
Both.
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>>183184246
Even this Alma is betther thatn the shitstain that akazawa red drew.
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>>183183812
In interpreted it as the past of the original timeline changing resulting in creating a parallel world(and the original remains the same)

Otherwise the events that lead Luka on his journey to eventually defeat Ilias wouldn't have happened. And as Nero says, in his world there is no mana in the air and shit that allows everyone to use magic which would imply that his world is relatively unaffected.

>>183168985
Wut. The last BF in part 2 does 5000 damage
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>>183184246
Alma Elma seemed to be equally okay with either so I'm gonna say both.

>>183184761
You need help.
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>>183184246
Yes.
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>>183184807
https://pastebin.com/QQaVgXa3
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>>183184850
The majority reaction to the new Heavenly Knight designs have been overwhelmingly negative.
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>>183184997
http://exhentai.org/g/581098/0e6cd408ff/
http://exhentai.org/g/671438/9cfbf44f4d/
http://exhentai.org/g/749499/500b0e94ab/
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>>183185276
I seriously doubt that there is a group of people making multiple posts about how they hate Azakawa Red in every thread. It's much more likely the work of a single autist.
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>>183184807
>>183184997
>>183185342
Thank you VA! Heres your (you)!

You are really dedicated.
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Is she actually praying?
Did she become a servant of our Lady and Savior Ilias?
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>>183184807
>>183184997
>>183185342
Thanks, doc.
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>>183180030
>Xelvy's Fernandez
You mean this?
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>>183185518
She's doing that itadakimasu thing
She's boutta chow down on some hot hot shota dick, and maybe the rest of the shota too
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Lots of Alma love in this thread, I like it.
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>>183185663
there's also this
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>>183185997
Alma is easily in Japan's top3 most popular MGQ characters
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>>183185663
That's really fucking hot
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>>183186197
What did that poll say?
I doubt Alma is even the most popular succubus considering Rami gets more fan art.
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>>183185989
>She's boutta chow down on some hot hot shota dick, and maybe the rest of the shota too

Why would she do that? She's obviously about to eat some dangos you pleb.
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What are the these mimics protesting?
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>>183186505
Alma is second place
Rami is fourth
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>>183186505
Both Alma and Rami are very popular.
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>>183186691
People grinding them I would assume
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>>183186691
They're probably tired of being slaughtered for Medals.
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>>183184840
>Wut. The last BF in part 2 does 5000 damage
5000 damage?! Who was this one?
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>>183182576
>Four(or Five) Bandits
>(or Five)
Did I miss something?
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>>183182893
Mom says i cant
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>>183187819
He's probably talking about the Phoenix Grill
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>>183185435
I've not got a very convincing arguement, but I'm a different person and I think the new HK look bad. I've not posted about it, and I even like Akazawa's work for the most part, I just really feel like he could have done better on the HK. I like his new Illias, although her angry expression looks really dumb to me.
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>Cirque de Croix can hit 27k HP buffed
Shieeeeeeet
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>>183187861
Try club penguin instead
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>>183188314
Too soon man, too soon.
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>>183187480
Also a ninja, I think
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Finally made it into one of the night live It's Luka getting fucked on stage by Saki and it's not even translated.

This is up most dissappointment but watching IIias get vored and the chaoization taking over the stage was hilarious.

SEIG MAKINA
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>>183179832
>>183180030
>>183186101
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>>183188710
>filled condoms
I never understood this
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>>183188859
Trophies
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>>183188859
She's saving it for later
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>>183188995
>>183189036
It is a turnoff
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>>183188710
>>183188859
Me neither, she can't get pregnant if he uses condoms!
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>>183189207
Your face is a turnoff
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>>183188859
She's too poor to afford a milk bottle
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>>183189267
Maybe she's already pregnant.
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>>183189871
>Maybe she's already pregnant.
Then why not try to go for twins?
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>>183189871
Can never be too sure.
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>>183189321
no u
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Should I spend fifty medals on the Archangel Bra or Etemenanki (Medal King's lightsaber)?
Both are fairly good, but the sword raises the strength of almost all magic categories, so I tought of putting it on Lucifina.
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>>183179832
>saving my crop
t-thanks.
Eva has become one of my favorite Succubi lately
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>>183191674
Doesn't she kill Luka in the original and doesn't she almost kill Luka in paradox in her other scenes in the castle and doesn't she kill Luka if you by some measure of stupidity lose to her when you first meet?
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Hey guys, I'm trying to go through the game without missing anything, and so I've been following the rule of thumb that you should always follow the left wall, even if it takes you to a different floor. This works almost perfectly, with the exception of the situation in the attached image. Anyone have any thoughts on how to fix this (Besides just doing a zigzag comb because that's just stupid in some areas).
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>>183188314
>tfw no Club Monster
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>>183188710
Is there a full pic?
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>>183192808
>tfw no Club Angel Soldier
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>>183192808
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>>183192935
I'd play it
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>>183192912
https://twitter.com/xelvy850/status/879097219244113921
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>>183192808
>>183192935
What's the closest to a Monster Girl MMO (if any)? Not really into MMOs but might reconsider if someone made one.
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Queen Tier List
>TT is definitely going to nerf her tier
Freya
>A Tier
Aria Lamia, Reflestsia, Zenovia, Lucretia, Spider Princess
>B Tier
Alarune, Laura, Fatima, Monster Cow Lord
>C Tier
Alra Priestess, Kraken, Poisdoness
>D Tier
Queen Ant, Queen Bee
>Should just get married to the floor tier
Airy
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>>183193268
I don't think there's any specifically for monster girls, but there's probably some korean MMO that has a few as classes
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>>183193394
Which one is Harpy Queen?
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FOBS update tomorrow wooooooo
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>>183192937
She, Hip and Sonya use their clubs to hit a bunch of balls at the audience for their performance. How come Luka isn't in any of these?
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>>183193664
>Lucretia
Which queen is Freya? Vampire?

How good is she?
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>>183194070
>How come Luka isn't in any of these?
The theater is for plays, not pornos.
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>>183193664
>>183194083
Queen Tier List
>TT is definitely going to nerf her tier
Queen Elf
>A Tier
Queen Lamia (Dead), Queen Harpy (Dead), Queen Scylla (Dead), Queen Harpy, Spider Princess
>B Tier
Queen Alarune, Queen Mermaid, Queen Vampire, Queen Minotaur
>C Tier
New Queen Alarune, Queen of South Seas, Queen of North Seas
>D Tier
Queen Ant, Queen Bee
>Should just get married to the floor tier
Queen Fairy
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how get Kakyoin in party
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>>183193992
And here I was thinking I was the only one hype for it. There's that, and when 2.10 comes out, we're getting the battlefuckers.
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>>183194439
Actually the succubi from Succubus Village along with Natasha bring a few people onstage and start milking them.
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>>183192519
If you want to beat the wall you must become the castle.
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>>183194624
So does that mean we won't have to upload the pictures from part 1 into our part 2 folders anymore? Just our saves?
>>183194439
Come on, Luka can do other things besides be made sport of for monsters and angels
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>>183193394
>tfw Queen Bee cannot access Queen Insect as of Part 2, she's humble and votes for Queen Ant instead of throwing her own name in
>tfw Cow Lord doesn't even have a Queen race
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>>183192935
Wouldn't be an MMO but I could just use rpg maker to make an angel soldier game
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>>183194960
Then my neighbors must be huge fucking castles
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>>183174951
Hey incest is wrong and you know it.
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>>183186691
Mimic Lives Matter
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>>183196835
If monsters and angels can choose whether or not they want to get pregnant and can freely choose which genes to give to their offspring, then what is wrong with incest?
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>>183197013
>choose which genes to give to their offspring
Only a few monsters can do that.
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>>182969849
I have a question, what was the address of frfr's website?

I only found his old Pixiv: https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=250940 (inactive)

>>182983124
Some of his works are on Danbooru, like his Cecil's Story Satania drawings.

It's such a shame for me he won't draw other of the Seven Archangels, is he doing anything aside the Battlefuckers and Lorelei? Lorelei monster looks so much like Cecil Story's Scylla, just like akazawa's Elma.

>>182899720
Oh thank you, I thought she's one from the army of the four plants which joins you in Pat 2.
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If Neris fought Nero, would she use pleasure attacks?
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>>183197396
Why wouldn't she?
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Also I've heard that during no-Sonya run White Rabbit brings up Sonya and Nuruko near the end of the game.

But what about Promestein? You can't recruit her too during it.
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>>183196835
Incest is literally perfectly fine with Neris
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>>183197540
Cause he's a dork
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>>183197396
She wants to fuck her own father who that said father in turn fucked his own mother,aunt and grandmother...
So yes, she using pleasure attack on her own brother isn't far off for her family standards
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>>183197396
I bet they already fucked
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>>183197842
>She wants to fuck her own father
She could have just been teasing luka
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>>183197396
That's a moot point as both of them know daystar/taoist stances/chaos drive and could infinitely counter each other, so it would always be a stalemate.
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>>183197842
I have not played Alice route how do Alice and neris interact?
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>>183197941
I wonder how much monster pussy Nero's already gotten
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Which do you prefer
lukaXAlice?
Or
lukaXsonia?
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>>183198049
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>tfw no xelvy monster gf
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>>183198142
There's really no point in this argument considering the luka's are entirely different people. I don't think Sonya's gonna win simply because Luka doesn't see her in that light if he's willing to battlefuck in front of her
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>>183198396
Maybe he should go after a different luka?
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>>183198142
LukaxIlias
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>>183198142
Knowing trtr, he probably has Alice/Ilias as a bait and switch for Sonya to be the true heroine.
>>183198396
Luka canonically had trysts with Meia, Sara, and the spirits yet still ended up with Alice in the end.
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>>183198334
From the thumbnail I thought it was that gif with a woman scared as a creature with a mask and knife fingers approaches her
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>>183198657
And I seriously hope she doesn't win in any route
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>>183198096
Are you kidding me? Nero is the purest of virgins. There will probably be a scene where his dick is lightly touched and he cums instantly, resulting in Neris needing to come save him.
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>>183198657
Thats cause alice is cuckold that gets off to it
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>>183198792
Why do you hate Sonya anon?
After what she did in ilias route i really want to have a happy ending with her
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>>183199153
He's just saving himself for the right girl.
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>>183199492
Lala?
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I refuse to believe a BF could hit for 5000 damage off paizuri,thighjobs,blowjobs,handjobs and armpits without some sort of cheat.
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>>183199529
Why?
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>>183199492
Too bad she's from another universe
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>>183199665
Is monster musume still ongoing?
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>>183199801
I hope not. It is very boring.
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>>183199616
Because I haven't seen one at all and I've been everywhere. It's difficult without knowing what's being said
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>>183199801
The manga is still going. The last chapter released even had a fair bit of Lala. There was also a second OVA not so long, but hopes for a season 2 are scarce.
>>183199859
I like it for what it is.
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>>183199962
Go into all the buildings.
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>>183200098
>but hopes for a season 2 are scarce
good
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>>183199962
The one in Snow Heaven. 5000 damage divided up into 10 hits(the original post he was responding to was talking about Salaan doing 1200 damage which is also divided up into 10 hits)

Though iirc, every single Battle Fuckers in part 2 is stronger than Salaan though so I'm not sure what that guy is on about anyway
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>>183200459
>good
>I HOPE NO ONE CAN ENJOY IT BECAUSE I, A PERSON ON A KOREAN KEY ANIMATION FORUM, THINK IT'S BORING!
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>>183198242
Uh oh. Even Paradox Luka would say no if he found out that's his daughter from another Alice. Luka sure has his morality still when it comes to incest.
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>>183200946
Who said he will have the choice in all that ? He didn't for Lucifina, he probably will not for Neris.
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>>183200645
Probably an idiot who doesn't have the game and is playing stupid to get replies instead of just straight up answering, just like the other moron who keeps posting that same about moronic power. I think they're the same person.
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>>183199665
Black sclera
>Black sclera
Black sclera
>Black sclera
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So what is that door behind Hades?
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>>183197340
there is these galleries on panda
https://e-hentai.org/g/387529/fb027e9d42/
https://e-hentai.org/g/290385/604f135015/?p=1
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>>183201287
Shit you're right. Luka has no breaks at all. Just when you think he's all married up bam even his daughter wants in the Luka love.
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>>183198142
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>>183201287
>See you, Luka! Next time I won't take no for an answer!
She even spoils it for us.
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>>183202137
>Next time
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>>183201650
you can't just sclerapost without a source dude
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>>183201689
The Afterlife.
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>>183202217
>Luka was raped while unconscious
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>>183201851
Nero was trained by Tamamo and probably got his good manners from Erubestgirl.

Seems like Nerice was taught by the 2 perverts.
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>>183202217
Surprisingly, Neris and Nero are on good terms
I thought Neris would resent her brother for being mama's boy, since she hates Alice
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>>183202217
Hey Neris wouldn't have fucked Luka while he's on the ground defeated. She actually wants Luka's consent I hope.
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>>183202392
>rape
>not shown
Wrong game series buddy
>>183202449
One annoyed comment =/= hate. People from different worlds are confirmed to not be related anyhow, so its not like this Luka and Alice are her parents.
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>>183202392
>hey daddy, remember that one time when you fought armored berserker?
>well, I had a little fun with your unconscious body, just thought I'd let you know
>by the way, I am pregnant
>I also stored your sperm for like 15 more pregnancies, teehee
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>>183201835
I miss FrFr
It feels like he may as well not even be drawing for the game anymore now that he's been relegated to BFs
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>>183202445
So this is the Granberia that everyone's complaining about? It's not terrible, but the old design was clearly superior. This moeface irks me though.
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>>183202657
>reminder that no other girl made Luka cum SO hard as to inflate her belly, until Lucy-chan
Luka is far more degenerate than we ever imagined!

>calls Arachne Lord's spider pussy disgusting many times
The fuck Luka? I thought you were about coexistence.
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So what do you do at the fox shrine? Are you supposed to look for a lost fox or something? I'm completely stuck.
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>>183200459
Are you the same guy who keeps complaining about Akazawa Red? If so, you definitely need help, dude.
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>>183202445
Cringed.
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>>183201650
What's wrong with Black Sclera?
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>>183202772
>relegated to BFs
He did a new Mermaid, new Spider, and 1 or 2 new Harpies for part 2
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>>183202935
>calls Arachne Lord's spider pussy disgusting many times
He also calls Shesta's insect pussy disgusting
Seems to be insect thing
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>>183202445
>>183202864
It's only a moe expression because I went with the most perverty one I could find, for the post.

>>183203174
Not seeing the problem, Newberry looks fine to me.
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>>183202445
2 perverts what. No way Granberia corrupted Neris to wanting Luka. But I won't be surprised if Alma Elma was corrupting Neris to love Luka. Maybe Alma Elma encouraged Neris instead due to already falling in love with Luka but didn't know what to do.
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What do get if I choose illias?
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>>183203763
>What
Pee
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>>183203763
You get to fuck your grandma, mom and both aunts
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>>183203763
A one way ticket to bladder splatter bliss
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>>183202946
Read the guide(s)
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>>183203840
I don't understand why Luka is fine fucking auntie Eden but not auntie Micaela.
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>>183204325
The guide doesn't say anything about this sidequest though.
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>>183204434
Eden isn't really his aunt any more so than every other angel Ilias created
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>>183204434
How does Eden even act in that scene? I wonder if Alma elma,Granberia, Tamamo and Eruebetie will even keep their verbal ticks in their h scenes
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>>183204434
Because Eden isn't directly related to him. She's his aunt in name only.
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>>183203478
frfr's Granberia has looks more 3 dimensional because of his depth of shading; this Granberia looks flat in comparison, as though it were a bad cutout. While the difference may not be that qualitative, I feel as though the old design was far more intimidating because of it; it also helps that she's introduced as a larger than life figure in the VN. Of course, this Granberia is presented much differently in the story and goes for a different effect, but I can't help but prefer the previous design. The old design also looks more monstrous than this, her scales were more emphasized. This Granberia just looks like a green woman with a tail.
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>>183204434
Because her holy, perfect body makes him forget the immorality, of course.
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>>183204759
>How does Eden even act in that scene?
Like she's having a snack
She's weak from that barrier business(I assume) so she said its for recharging
Luka is the one who initiates the scene though
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>>183173762
I want to hold hands and cuddle with this succ.
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>>183203478
This Granberia looks like she comes from a 4kids cartoon version of MGQ. This Granberia looks like a TMNT reject. This Granberia is skinny and looks like she's been skipping meals. This Granberia looks like she bought her armor at a cosplay shop.
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>>183203365
>being an anti-insect bigot
>in the current Johannes year

When will Luka grow some self awareness and recognize how problematic holding this kind of attitude in the wonderful world of coexistence is?
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>>183205050
Oh, so it's not,"Hey can you come to my room, I need some help with something" thing?
>>183205264
I'll be surprised if her castle scenes don't all end in death, she prides herself in being a true succubus and succubi never let their sexual conquests live
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Has anyone ever made a timeline of events in MGQ?
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>>183205698
>Oh, so it's not,"Hey can you come to my room, I need some help with something" thing?
Yeah, it's one of those where Luka goes "please make me feel good" and then regrets it
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>>183205746
The japanese wiki has one
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>>183205698
Didn't one of the Q/As say that Alma only kills people looking for a fight? And even then she fucked an entire fort of enemies enough to knock them out without killing them.
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>>183206341
I don't remember if that was in the Q and A but it was blatantly stated in her monsterpedia description
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>>183205264
She is my favourite succ.
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>>183205932
>Do Eater's scene
>Luka's surprised that she actually eats him.
>Do Succubus Nun
>That moment of horror when Luka sees that her veil is gone

Didn't people warn luka not to do anything naughty with his allies because of shit like this? Nothing sucks more than having to go "Crap,I ate my friend"
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>>183205606
Indeed. Luka's a hypocrite. But this girl is one of the most loyal lovey-doveys in the game toward him.
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Reminder that Erubetie's real name is Elvetie, since all of her attack names are based on real locations. Even the situation with the slimes parallels Switzerland.
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>>183206721
>Didn't people warn luka not to do anything naughty with his allies because of shit like this?
Boss book girl does in her third rape scene where she doesn't kill him.
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>>183207162
I wonder how paradox Erubetie acts compared to the VN one. I mean, she shouldn't be full of anger here with all the slime girls around, seriously, have noticed there's one in nearly every town? she'll probably wanna /ss/ Luka tho
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>>183207162
Indeed, this is likely so.
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>>183206797
Too much Luka can kill a man. Especially a shota.
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>>183207335
Didn't you play part2 yet?
She is blindly following 15th orders and fights Luka after he gets Undine
Don't know what happens on Alice route
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>>183207283
So is the story reason why this happens to people is because monsters literally cannot control themselves during sex? Certainly seems to make sense for the more dimwitted and younger ones.
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>>183206721
>eater dialogue with the vore pitch plant
>basically one wanting to eat the other
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>>183207335
She's what you'd expect her to be with 30 years of almost coexistence, even gives jelly to you if you raise her affinity high enough. Her defining trait is wanting what's best for the slime race. Also she gives pocket money to slime girls.
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>>183207587
There's no translation for part 2 so no, I haven't so much as downloaded it,yet. I'm jus spinning my wheels on part 1 running around doing sidequests
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>Salamander gets mad that Luka tried to sacrifice himself in the ending
>She's cool with Lazarus burning himself out in the fight with the trooperoids
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>>183207659
>Certainly seems to make sense for the more dimwitted and younger ones
Not sure if they said the same thing in the story, but the Boss book does give in to letting you die in her second rape scene where she says she won't kill you until the last second where she changed her mind.
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>>183207869
I liked the standoff between Merlin&Lazarus vs Grangold King
Basically Merlin tells Lazarus not to sacrifice himself because that'd be a bad example for Luka, who'd do the same one day
Based old geezers
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>>183207996
>should I kill the sole protector of our universe
>I should probably spare him
>nah, he didn't give me enough veggies
Dumb Setouchi face bimbo
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>>183208120
He should've included Sonya...
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>>183208464
Who?
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>>183207869
Is it possible to buff Lazarus with Salamander?
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>>183208696
Well if you find her in LoC she'll give your party her buff until the next boss.
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>>183208839
is it because shes always in the buff?
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>>183198045
Guaranteed Hit attacks can't be countered.
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>>183208995
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>>183209092
In part 1 they could.
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Granberry is lady-like and elegant!
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>>183206797
Is she in Part 2?
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>>183209405
I could feel Granberia's dignity die right there, I can see why she canceled her big showdown with Alma Elma and Luka's party after that.
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>>183203478
The biggest issue for me is the face, she just doesn't look like Granberia. I don't care for the new Alma either, but she at least LOOKS like Alma. Paradox Granberia honestly looks like a completely different character. Far more generic at that. I think part of it has to do with the crown and how it's positioned on her face.
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>>183209360
You can't in part 2.
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>>183209580
Yes. Now just play the game.
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>>183209704
He's just baiting dude. Acting intentionally obtuse is the lowest form of trolling.
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So, anyone know why Promestien actually has sex with Luka in her 100 scene instead of using another tool? I know for the bare handjob scene she did it because Luka cums the most when he's told kind words.
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>>183209985
She wants to see how efficient her vagina is. She also finds out that by saying nice things to Luka he cums more.
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>>183209985
Luka's a gentle loving shota. So of course he loves gentle femdom.
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>>183209985
She's testing a new medicine that is supposed to boost the warmth, tightness, and other statistics of a vagina. And then after Luka cums she just keeps going because the medicine made her horny and she can't stop.
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>>183210204
He came alot in Riot's 100 percent scene as well. It was a whole lot different to the other one where she immediately pins him to a wall and starts going at it like she's been waiting for those words for a while
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>>183185435
As it turns out, disliking the new character designs is an opinion held by more than one person.
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>>183197340
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>>183209092
What do you mean by guaranteed hit attacks? Monster Lord's Cruelty is technically a guaranteed hit attack and it can be countered at least
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>>183210953
Wasn't it the fault of the Japanese? What is their opinion to their wish being fulfilled?
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>>183211035
You can't counter monster lord's cruelty. I tested that long ago using magic and physical counters back when I was making paradox mode Black Alice weeks ago strats.

You can't even counter Queen Fairy's nature magic.
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>>183211358
What were the strats?
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>>183211358
I literally just tested it 3 minutes ago against Alice 16th.

We're talking about Daystar right? Because not all counter skills counter the same things. Daystar(the legit version anyway) counters all types of attacks. Though you don't have legit access to it, that post was talking about Nero and Neris who most likely do
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>>183211531
We should give a name to the weak daystar. Nerfstar? Nightsun? Gaystar?
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>>183211752
Nah it needs a cutesy name if we're doing that, since Luci's a kid.
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>>183211752
>weak daystar
It has to have an unepic name. Daystar sounds too cool for it while its so weak.

We should call it Lolistar, as only a loli can use it currently.
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>Pick anything
>Add nazism to it
>It is immediately improved
Huh...
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>>183211456
>>182983564
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>>183212115
What if you're on an Alice route?
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>>183212334
>Alice route
>only good character you get is Not!Black-Alice
>she cant even be used on the boss fight
We just hope for the best, ya know?
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>>183212058
fuck off grigori
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>>183212024
Shotastar, Lolistar, Lolibladeworks.
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>>183212437
Morrigan is good!
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>>183212760
DO NOT TRUST THE SHIKIBI. THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND LOVE. THEY WILL KILL YOU.
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>>183212807
They understand the power of shota cock!
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>>183212807
I want to be a shikibus!
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>>183213208
YOU SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED.

>>183212968
You have a good point, but until they are do not trust the Shikibi. They will kill you.
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>>183213208
Me too! Who would want to be some shitty arekishi angel!
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>>183212334
I dunno. You could use Sphinx as a Cursed Swordsman to tank
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Is there another cooking job in part 2? I wanna make parfaits Kinda wanna eat one in real life,too
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>>183213371
Thanks but I think I'll get by on my own. I believe in my party.
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>>183212024
How about Morningstar, since it isn't quite day yet? Plus, it's another nod to the Lucifina/Lucifer analogy.
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>>183213628
Based. From now on it will be Morningstar.
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>>183213454
Yes, it can make parfaits and wedding cakes and steaks and sukiyaki and all that good stuff
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>>183213208
>>183213306
>not even the best
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>>183213628
>>183213765
Thats perfect! Hell Venus is called Morningstar and is the last visible object at night before the sun rises (And day begins)!

Thats beyond perfect.
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>>183213875
get that flatty imp out of here she eats ass!
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>>183213937
Is it just me or does morningstar sound cooler than daystar

oh well
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>>183213371
>Cursed Swordsman
Is this a monster-only job or something?
Is it Dark Swordsmen or am i missing something?
>>183214064
Well, it is Lolifina's super-move.
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>>183213807
Wedding cakes? That's an odd choice, whose getting married?
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>>183214304
Meia.
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>>183213371
Yeah, Dark Swordsman. I'm just used to seeing it as Cursed
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>>183214304
Luka. With all the girls. ALL of them.
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>>183214304
That's what just about everyone who likes it asks when you give it to them funnily enough.
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>>183214049
>she eats ass!
Having a monster girl eat your ass is the ultimate pleasure!
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Where the hell do I get the other cakes to make wedding cakes?
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>>183214546
Disgusting! You like the Beelzebubs then! That's literally eating ass!
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>>183214627
You don't understand. Beelzebubs did it so they don't have to give birth to their children themselves. Rumi does it just to give you the ultimate pleasure. She has no ulterior motives for eating your ass. She isn't doing it for your semen, copulation, or even just to eat Luka. She's doing it just for you out of love!
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>>183209673
I'm not sure i found her to be quite cute in a dress
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>>183214568
Every single one can be bought in Snow Heaven

It's helpful to buy one of each food you come across so that it gets added to your library so you can check for its location there if you need it later
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>>183215070
You and Rumi have one thing in common: shit taste! Prostate stimulation is cheating! She is lazy even during sex! That's not love!
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as soon as i got through grangolds fortress i got this error message when trying to save, does anyone know what it means
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>>183215759
It's not able to make a thumbnail of the save but it still recorded your progress.
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>>183215759
You can ctrl+c error boxes.
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>>183215389
>She is lazy even during sex! That's not love!
Yes it is. She's just always lazy. At least being lazy during sex is better than dry fish.
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>>183214568
The blonde Trinity in Snow Heaven's cafeteria sells all three ingredients. If you've got the time and money for it, you can just make 99 wedding cakes in front of her, restock, and repeat.
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>>183215839
long message for a pretty tame issue

>>183215942
whoops, i always forget
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>>183213875
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>>183215986
Get that do-nothing out of here! Her lack of work ethic mirrors Arekishi's creativity!
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>>183213875
>It's (yawn) to stay at the YMCA
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>>183216008
Wedding Cakes also sell at a 500 profit so if money is an issue you can sell off 50 of them and keep 49 so you break even money-wise
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>>183152407
>Laplace panties are data
For all the things I've heard about part two, this is the one so good you just have to be fucking with me
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>>183216782
He isn't, it's in there with La Croix's, a group of kunoichi monsters', chimera insect's, Mariel's, Ariel's, and a few of the Archangels',
Alice I's, and White Rabbit's.
Granted those last few are likely to be for Part 2's LoC.
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>>183216782
As in it exists as data only. It's unused in the game.

It's possible it was originally going to be in part 2 but got cut like Elf Village did

(Also Tanuki and Kitsune village seems like they may have been originally planned for part 2 as well)
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Speaking of Snow Heaven, if I have this right:
>Angels don't have to eat because they are made of holy/light particles and can directly absorb energy from heaven
>Heaven falls
>Angels need energy to live now but don't need nutrients because they aren't animals
>Angels can live just gorging themselves on cake, chocolate, and ice cream for the calories. Or semen if they're into that
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>>183214395
Her husband legit has to be a bigger cuck than Sonya.
>>183214481
I don't think his body could take the stuff those girls will do to him, especially voreous ones

>>183215182
Careful, if you're gonna cour a dragonkin best be prepared for a fight
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>>183217192
If you marry a monster with a weird and destructive fetish, then you're probably okay with the idea that she might slip up and rape someone here or there.
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>>183217189
>Angels can live just gorging themselves on cake, chocolate, and ice cream for the calories

And you people call me crazy for wanting to be an angel. I'll just be over here eating my forty cakes.
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>>183217483
But that's terrible
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>>183217483
>icecream
>/mggg/

This is problematic.
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>>183217483
Your family is worried about you...
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>>183217483
Does angels also have their own special "flavor" of ice cream?
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do not respond to the obsessed freak
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>>183217192
>bigger cuck than Sonya.
I'll show y⬛u w⬛o's a c⬛⬛k, ⬛ou li⬛⬛⬛e
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
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>>183217483
Anon, please. You aren't an angel. Even eating 7 normal sized cakes would kill most people. We've talked about this.
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>>183218118
You sure?
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>>183218250
>Most people
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>>183218118
>>183218250
>>183218371
>inb4 americans
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>>183217856
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>>183218250
What monster is this
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>>183218646
Sonya
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>>183218646
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>>183218646
I dunno, but I bet she has a vore scene.
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>>183219332
>skip
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>Eden thought she was being attacked by an enemy ice spell when gifted ice cream
Does everyone from the great monsters wars have PTSD?
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>>183218646
Next tier mimic: Doradus
Shapeshifter pretending to be human in order to solicit food. Immune to predation attacks. 100% chance of inflicting digestion and bind with a normal attack. 100% chance of eating a bound character each turn.
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>>183207869
Because Lazarus was truly prepared to die without regrets and she didn't have the right to tell a warrior where his last fight should be.
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>>183207869
It's a bit of a plot hole, since a major theme of MGQ was about not making sacrifices as shown with Heinrich, Alice, Erubetie, and Luka. Perhaps it's because Lazarus could only atone for his crimes in death.
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>>183220702
For the sake of the world, here's hoping Luka lives a good life, I can't imagine how ape shit his family would go if he were killed by some force. especially his wife and daughter
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>>183220371
Imagine living peaceful life working for somewhat kind ruler but then bunch of assholes show up and ruin everything for everyone and you defeat them but they don't go away and are still ruining everything and then people you idolized tell you to go fuck yourself
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>>183221127
No it's not, Everyone else was doing thinking their death would make everyone stop being idiots., Lazarus did it because he didn't have a choice, he was fucked, he wanted to save what he could at that moment and that's why he his death is much different
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>>183221414
>somewhat kind
>willing to destroy the earth
Iliasfags are brainless but this is a new low
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>>183220371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKpQB3bEPbI
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>>183221581
sshhh just drink the lemonade praise ilias
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>>183193992
Oh shit, thanks for reminding me.
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>>183221581
Honestly Earth is pretty valuable and finding replacement would be bitch and human project was just starting to pay off but fucking over Alipheese would totally be worth blowing up one planet
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>>183222204
stop posting this you sick fuck
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>>183221581
>willing to destroy the earth
>t. Alice I played like a damn fiddle
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>>183217483
Does becoming an angel also come with a sweet tooth? Because an endless parade of cake, chocolate and ice cream sounds like hell to me.

Can I get by on beef, mushrooms and bell peppers?
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>>183184807
I love you, Voreanon! Here is your (you)!
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>>183223041
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>>183222868
Lucifina hates sweets so it's cool
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>>183222832
>muh 12d chess level keikaku that ends with me being eaten alive and hoping that there's someone strong enough to stop them and not me
>losing to the great^15 grandkid of your worst enemy whose fucking your grandson
The biggest iliascuck of them all was Ilias herself
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>>183223217
>Implying getting killed wasn't part of her plan
Alicefags can't look past their own noses.
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>>183223041
>>183223110
obsessed
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Praise Eden
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How far can one get in part 2 without knowing moon? I've even considered challenging the Spinx and 1st tartarus world's angels and it's clear you aren't meant to defeat those opponents fairly
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>>183223217
>>183223397
It wasn't 'hoping for someone strong enough' either since she literally set up a time recursion that made Luka's victory inevitable.

She just fucked up in that he was able to kick her ass too(albeit with a ton of help)

She underestimated THE POWER OF LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP as all last bosses are wont to do
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>>183224252
Yes you can, git gud
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>>183224252
At least until the parts where you need the orbs or queens. If you understand the guide you should be able to beat the game without getting stuck.
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>>183224252
>How far can one get in part 2 without knowing moon?
I completed all of the quests, optional bosses, and caught every available girl on the hardest difficulty setting.

>>183223217
If Micaela hadn't shown up and damaged Illias to the point where she could only use pleasure attacks, then Illias would have likely won.
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>>183224378
How did Lucifina set up the time loop in the last fight? Are the alternate endings time loops too? What about killing Alice?
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>>183224520
so Micaela played Ilias like a fiddle then
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>>183224187
way too late anon
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>>183224747
Pretty much
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>>183224835
It's never too late to show how much you appreciate her.
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>>183225036
you really are scum...
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>>183225036
whos doing these?
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>>183225036
Give me a f#@$%ing break...
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How will Torotoro buff unsealed Alice and Ilias to be viable? Their traits are already telegraphed.
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>>183226547
Aside from the stat increase, they'll probably both get something like 50% damage bonus to holy and dark skills which is already enough to make them pretty good
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>>183226794
They'll be different characters so it'll be a waste to give them seeds now...
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>>183226794
>Monster Lords Cruelty becomes the new daystar
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>>183226897
Are you seriously planning on saving seeds for a game that won't be out for at least two years?
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>>183227269
It'll be hilariously anticlimactic if unsealed Alice/Ilias were were weaker than their loli buffed forms.
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>>183227269
Everyone will be super strong in part 3. Why would you give the seeds to a part 2 character that you don't like? You're not going to use them in 2 years except maybe to blitz the story if you gave them enough seeds.
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>>183227574
Yes. He also should have given us all four heavenly knights, the 7 ancestors, the 3 succubi, the 7 archangels, the 3 seraphim and most of the monster lords.

Because that's what was needed for being able to have them unsealed in part 2 and not be ridiculously shit in part 3. Just give all the strong characters in part 2 and have some useless but hot monsters in part 3.
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>>183226547
No HP/MP used for Dark/Holy skills, for starters. Those two are already coded as abilities and/or accessories. Probably a 50% damage boost as well.
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>>183227843
While I didn't want them playable in part 2, a scene like Black Alice's in part 1 to introduce them all would have been nice.
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>>183228493
I thought the accessory versions decreased the cost to 1.
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>>183228645
Monster Lord's Proof: [Accessory] Skills that normally sacrifice health no longer cost HP.
Archfiend's Ruler of Darkness passive does the same. There should be a Holy equivalent, according to what Illias said about not needing to sacrifice MP when at full power as the Goddess who bestowed the covenant or something like that.
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I just noticed that Nero's Puff Puff setting is set as a character with moderate sized breasts.

Hmm
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>Have a fetish that involves missionary sex for the purpose of procreation, getting married, having a family and then taking care of them.
This stupid cat is the first girl to surpass Spatsune in my fetish department because the sex with her was missionary as opposed to cowgirl. I never even liked taur girls but I want to marry this baka cat.
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>>183229383
DELETE THIS it doesn't mean anything he doesn't even have a trait
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>>183229430
She's a good kitty!
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>>183229383
How to keep Nero at level 80 when making him playable?
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>>183229161
The SP and MP versions are different.
Three Stars: [Accessory] Skills cost no more than 1 MP.
Seventh Heaven: [Accessory] Skills cost no more than 1 SP.
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>>183229430
>having a family and then taking care of them.
do you actually see that?
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>>183229430
It's weird, I hate Spatsune, but I have also been charmed by Tezcat's cuteness.
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>>183229430
>implying that ending isn't a shinifa style hallucination as she dries your fish so hard you disintegrate
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>>183229383
So, Alice wanted to have both a boy and girl badly enough that she raised one of her daughters as a boy?
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>equip best
>get this

i know this general had resident drawfags
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>>183230397
crossdressing is gay
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>>183230028
No, but it talks about how the two of you have lots of children, raise them together and travel around the world together.
>>183230072
You can't trick me. All of the other hallucination type scenes have been specifically called out as such, so it's pretty clear this one was exactly what it was presented as.
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>>183230686
>No, but it talks about how the two of you have lots of children, raise them together and travel around the world together.
would nice to see how her little kitties look
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You picked Saja, right /mggg/?
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>>183231481
I flipped a coin.
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>>183231481
I had to chose between the dirty angel or the sexy snek birb lady. The best choice should be obvious.
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>>183231481
I have no idea since I can't read nip.
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>>183231481
Note how the archangel's Halo is a dirty yellow as opposed to the more white ones we've seen on every other angel. That, and her stained, see through clothes heavily imply that Ilias has pissed on her so thoroughly that she can't even look Luka in the eye during this meeting.
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>>183231481
I chose Raphaela of course.
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>>183232345
You will regret that decision.
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Siding with angels in paradox is always the best choice
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>>183229767
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>>183232203
no it's just xelvy feeding her tons yellow cum, she chugs it by the gallons daily.
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>>183231481
>one of the beautiful, lovely Xelvy angels crafted with utmost precision to be superior
vs
>ugh, another thing drawn by Shiki but at least it's not one of their signature copypasta succubi and seems to have just a little bit more attention paid to the shading

This isn't a fair choice at all.
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>>183231481
Can I just pass on both and pick Kanon or Kanade?
Or Mikubus?
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>>183231481
nah man i think i'll pick Raphela, does this look like someone who would betray you?
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>>183233682
Not really.

She does look like a child molester though, so Xelvy did great in that regard.
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>>183231481
Delete both.
Second Level Cross-World Contact is forbidden.
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>>183234036
i got more of a "Shy Pervert" vibe then child molester honestly
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>>183231481
>>183234265
And you better not be thinking of a Third Level Cross-World Contact.
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>>183234265
You know, I really like Adramalek's design. I'm gonna put her on my team in Part 3.
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dead thread fuck akazawa red
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>>183234535
Mom get the fuck out of this thread I didn't call you here
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>>183230397
Pfft, that's nothing.
Imagine Pope wearing a bikini because it has the best stats.
And of course, who who could forget Luka wearing a bra and his mom's panties?
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>>183231481
Picking Raphaela leads only to a world of false comfort, a peace built on oppressive conformity, where the tyranny of the megalomaniac Ilias has crushed mankind into subjugated drones whose lives are at her whim. Choosing Saja leads to a dangerous world, where it is the will of the strong that rules, where your lineage determines your place in the hierarchy, where one hopes their ruler is benevolent for there is nothing they can do, where society is governed by instinct rather than law.

The only correct choice is neither, the solution is above petty instinct and beyond totalitarian control.
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>>183236673
>both endings end up being shitty for you no matter which you choose

where the fuck is my Neutral Route
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>>183233682
Raphaela seems like the Eden out of the archangels.
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>>183237093
The only one know as a saint but also secretly the sluttiest.

I don't know about Eden but she sounds like best archangel to me
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>>183237405
>secretly
Look at her ears, she's practically an elf!
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I want to stuff Eden's mouth with my hot and steaming food!
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>>183237619
Why is she being given a raw egg and fried tennis ball
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>>183238091
Pain becomes pleasure for New Eden.

Also, I assume that's a freshly steamed mushroom cap.
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>>183236401
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>>183231481
>Perverted shotacon
>Yandere

One of these can lead to depression, regret and eventual death, the other is a Yandere therefore i chose Saja.
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>>183217126
>>183217074
Sorry, I completely misunderstood. I thought last thread anon meant her panties where LITERALLY data, as in Promms stored important data on them like on a flash drive, and one of the quests was to go out and steal her panties, finally making panty thief not only relevant, but plot necessary.
YOU FUCKING LISTENING TOROTORO?
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>>183239037
would that make her vagoo some kind of usb port?
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>>183239161
Give her the Data
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>>183237619
Why are you making her eat all the eggs?
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>>183239161
Heh, when they said Universal serial bus them MEANT Universal.
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>>183239256
>w-wait what did you just install?
>Linux? Why?
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>>183239325
She's a big angel, she needs ALL of them.
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>>183237619
This is seriously disturbing. She's crying,
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>>183239325
>>183239692
Now your reminding me of that one Angel doujin where the dude eats an Angel's eggs.

https://www.tsumino.com/Book/Info/25863/my-cumdump-is-a-vacuous-angel-
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>>183239884
>She's crying,
Edens natural state is depressed and dead on the inside.

Someone needs to give her anything to cheer her up.
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>>183239884
That's sweat, anon. And also, perhaps, drools.
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>>183217483
Something tells me angels need a lot of energy to stay alive, so they legit gorge themselves in private. They all act normal as they find the thought of the normies realizing they're such gluts embarrassing
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>>183241085
What kind of sick bastard are you? I bet you love furious headpats and savage love hugs.
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>>183241085
fucking source
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>>183231481
She's the best.
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Will we recruit Armored Berserker?
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>>183243147
For what it's worth, Heinrich has 3 different forms in the data. It's possible
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>>183233102
Kanon is my favorite ancestor because of her sadism
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>>183243147
>Armored Berserker - Heinrich talk
"What the hell are you?"
>"ANGELLLL?"
"Is that supposed to be me in the future?"
>"ANNGEEEEEEEEEEL."
"Why can i only say angel?"
>Alicetromeria hides behind Heinrich cowering in fear
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>>183243147
If we can, I hope there is a stage skit of Armored Berserker Doing the whole OOooOOo...OOOooOOooOOO! Thing and everybody enjoying his singing ability.
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>>183243590
Replying to myself but basically do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRbuvKYKI54
but Angel Nation instead.
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New FOBS soon, comrade.
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>>183243572
Great now want to do when you recruit him.
>Armored Beserker comes back and hunts down Luka for being an Angel
>Just when hes about to fight Luka, Alictromeria and Heinrich come out
>"You will not harm him, we will make sure of that!"
>The Beserker just stops in his tracks
>"Hey, Heiney... thats... you?"
>The only reply the Armored Beserker can say is
>"ALLLLICCCCEEEE?"

Time has taken its toll on Heinrich in the paradox universe.
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>>183209405
That is not Granberia. That is the one thing she can never be.
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>>183209405
>>183245282
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>>183245686
Hackazawa RED's drawings are not to be taken as canon.
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>>183245927
We get it, ya don't like his stuff for MGQP, you don't have to act like the dude shit in your oatmeal.
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>>183246439
When he deletes his snuff hentai, he can stop being berated.
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I just want to marry Alma Elma and go on a adventure with her.
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>>183209405
>>183245686
Cutest berry!
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>>183249371
>clicks skip
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>>183247249
I just want my sperm to go on an adventure through Alma Elma's womb.
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>>183250629
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dargoth does you have any info on this
>>>/d/7535726
>>>/d/7547051
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>>183249432
This was the correct answer. Well done.
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>>183246587
SNUFF HENTAI? WHERE?
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>>183254667
at least 2 vore on panda
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rero rero rero rero
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What difficulty should I play on if I want to care about the gameplay? Starting my first run of part 1 and I'm unsure of how the difficult works, are you supposed to scale it up as you go or start off high?
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>>183256913
Just don't start the game with Paradox.
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>>183257169
Sorry I meant part 1 of Paradox, I've already played through all 3 parts of MGQ
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>>183257169
I meant the difficulty level Paradox. It's confusing when it isn't difficultyfag talking.
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>>183256913
Start with Very Hard, scale up as you see fit. Paradox difficulty is possible, but the first portion requires massive RNG until you can recruit and safely grind.

>>183257268
He meant Paradox difficulty.
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>>183257268

He means paradox difficulty, paradox difficulty is "I want to be raped mode", try hard or very hard, you can change the difficulty at anytime after getting a key item in iliasburg.
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>>183257392
>you can change the difficulty at anytime after getting a key item in iliasburg.
Or after dying.
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http://monstergirlquest.wikia.com/wiki/Poseidoness
Is this girl a goddess? Is she in any way similar to Poseidon from the encyclopedia? I saw no mention on the page so I came here for answers.
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>>183173762
>TT slowly adding fetishes into paradox he previously said were his hard limits and would never be in his games
>TFW Imp-cream may be in our future
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>>183257365
Thanks for the replies, it's difficult finding proper information about the game online besides the guides from here
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>>183257520
Make sure you go to the chief's house and rescue the slime otherwise you'll have to grind insane amounts to get anywhere.
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>>183257464
Poseidoness is a pseudo-Queen like Kraken and Leviathan, having a governing role in the seas despite not leading nay particular race.
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>>183231481
Of course i went with Raphaela the second i saw her
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>>183258260
Raphaela has no redeeming qualities, she cannot coil, her wings are smaller than Saja's, she cannot cuddle as well as Saja.

I mean Saja's also probably insane for whoever she sets her eyes on, but some people are into that.
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>>183256913
Game's honestly not that hard most of the time. Spikes up at certain boss battles but playing on Hell or Very Hard isn't going to be "fuck this shit" levels.

You can change difficulties if you die anyway.
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>wake up
>new FOBS isn't up yet
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>>183259019
>Wake up
>Luka still isn't real
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>>183259019
>>183259160
>wake up
>still alive
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>>183259019
>>183259160
>wake up
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>>183258832
Part 2 ramps up in difficulty pretty stiffly after the desert tartarus, though they clearly expect you to unlock and then I guess grind exp for the advanced races and jobs around then.
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>>183259334
Just abuse the queens because most come with advanced races.
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>>183259461
I love how TRTR states that part 2 was designed around being level 24 by the end of part 1 where it clearly was not.

Vampire Queen has more than 5 times the HP of Adramelech and is barely a mid boss.

Chaos Sonya has 23 times more HP than Adramelech.
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>>183245927
I like his portraits better. Deal with it.
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>>183259019
>>183259160
>Wake up
>Cupid still isn't real
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>>183259607
They have to inflate HP because they have no idea how to do defense without them resisting everything, and they believe people just play on normal and give up on temptations.
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>>183259019
>>183259160
>>183259271
>>183259297
>>183259827
>Spatsune is real
>Wake up
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>>183259334
The desert tartarus itself might be difficult if you focus on status ailments because they resist them. I don't think the parts after that are particularly harder though.
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>>183259930
speaking of which, do Sonya or Adramelek have temptation attacks?
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>>183261009
Chaos Sonya has an undodgeable attack that will ALWAYS seduce/trance Luka and Luka alone.

Its quite the bullshit move since all of Chaos Sonya's attacks are auto hit, like her one hit KO magic auto-hit attack that will one shot a specific party member.

Chaos Sonya isn't fun to fight against because there is no skill or planning involved when her attacks autohit and you cant dodge her seduction attacks.
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>>183261537
>Chaos Sonya has an undodgeable attack that will ALWAYS seduce/trance Luka and Luka alone
Sonya confirmed canon waifu.
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Sonya needs to die
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You think Marcelus is going to survive? How do you think he'll react to Lucifina-chan?
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>>183262424
Just like Alice
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>>183262897
>How do you think he'll react to Lucifina-chan?
……? ??? ??????
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>>183262897
>"Luka, my son, you have helped save this universe. I am proud of you."
>Thanks dad. (Please dont see her please dont see her)
>"Who are the several lolis behi.... is that Lucifina?"
>....maybe?
>"Me, Michaela and Eden are basically his wives! Who are you?"
>"Luka.... you mother fuckin"
>YES I UNDERSTAND MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS TO ME.

Marcellus is not amused.
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>>183263006
Both Sonya and Alice are canonically better than Pisslias.
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>>183263105
>>"Luka.... you mother fuckin"
>>YES I UNDERSTAND MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID THIS TO ME.
My sides
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>>183263146
Keep your delusions to yourself,both Ilias and Soyna are better characters then Alice by a mile
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>>183263006
>Just like Ilias
ftfy
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>>183263267
Pissliasfag really enjoys lying to himself apparently.
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>>183263359
She's been officially killed by succubi for sweet irony. The other ilias is pro-coexistence
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>>183263451
Are you really denying that Paradox Alice is boring?
Dude Paradox Alice is the least interesting character of the god damn game,even that big tits imp who wants to fly was more interesting then her
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Why isn't this your party right now?
1 spot is left open for nee-sama.
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>>183263565
Nah she's great, but you're the kind of faggot who'd dislike someone like Yao just because she's boring.
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>>183263565
Her route could need more fleshing out, especially compared to the Ilias route, that's true, but the least interesting character of the entire fucking game? You're exaggerating, faggot.
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>>183264124
Let me insert myself right here into this discussion: Why have you refused to share any reasons why you think Paradox Alice is a good character? Are you afraid of having people disagree with them and forcing you into a discussion?

Since I always see your type on the losing ends of these discussions. Or rather, I did, before you guys just shifted over to saying "No, you're wrong" over and over again. Did you unconsciously give up already?
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I want Alicefags and Iliasfags to coexist peacefully with each other!
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>>183264208
Wait. He didn't say that at all? He's saying that Alice is less interesting than Ilias and Sonya.

You're the one exaggerating, then, since you're implying that anyone less interesting than them is the least interesting character of the game.
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>>183264319
Just like how it was impossible in the VN because of Ilias, it's impossible in real life because of Alicefags.
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>>183264342
>Wait. He didn't say that at all? He's saying that Alice is less interesting than Ilias and Sonya.
From >>183263565
>Dude Paradox Alice is the least interesting character of the god damn game
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>>183264251
I want to see what's White Rabbit's deal with her, how will this connect with Nero and Neris, what the fuck happened with her mother, is she ever going to find the answers to all this shit or not? "Good character" is just a matter of opinion.
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>>183264474
Geez, anon, why are you so pissed off at me? I wasn't even the one you were arguing against.

But now let me bring in what was going to be my original reply: You're the one lowering yourself to argue against a single exaggeration. Even if it's wrong, you shouldn't have tried to make the entire argument revolve around that insignificant comment. That's just poor argumentative technique right there and is a sign that you have no worthwhile response to make.

Believe me, anon, I couldn't care less about your argument, but I gotta tell people how retarded they are when they're trying to make a "point" without actually making a point. It gives me pleasure to lord it over you.
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>>183264208
> You're exaggerating
Maybe a little by she sure feels like she is just a side character honestly
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>>183264342
>Dude Paradox Alice is the least interesting character of the god damn game
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Paradox Alice is basically just a bystander who gives exposition sometimes, not so much a character as a lore dispenser.

Lolias does most of the same text bits Alice does, except is having character development along the way. You can especially see by the end of Part 2 a clear display of the contrast between original Ilias and current Ilias to the point where it feels like if she got her powers back, she'd still take a step back from things and NOT be setting up a plan to kill everyone and remake the world.

Alice doesn't have that because all of her development in the VN was her having her secret coexistence plan, which is entirely unnecessary in the Paradox timeline, while being a lore dispenser.

So Paradox Alice doesn't currently have anything she's going through or any direction to develop. If she got her powers back, she'd be doing all the same things she would've done before, with the same attitude.

Really, even Paradox Luka doesn't have much going for him... but he's got a bit more by the end of Part 2. So he's in the cliche hero lead position of wanting to save everyone, and vehemently denying the fact that it may not be possible (depending how sad the MGQP tone wants to go).

Other than that though, even Luka doesn't have much going for him... almost feeling like a bystander on Ilias' journey rather than the lead himself.
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>>183264734
The achievements say that you kinda joined their party.

Other than that Luka wants to find his missing dad who specifically gives him hints so he can save his own world while he goes on to save the multiverse.

Luka is also very attached to Sonya threatening to kill the Lilith sisters if they even touch her.

Sure Luka may not be as talkative as the VN but he is a man of few, but very powerful, words.
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>>183264734
These were my exact feelings in Part 1 too, actually. Even shared them here. Luka was essentially just a passenger in the story who we know is supposed to be important. A McGuffin in character form.

With Raphaela and Saja revealing that they have plans for Luka, though, (calling him Child of Trials and World Breaker respectively) he's getting into the typical shounen plot "destined one" stuff now in Part 2. With original Sonya's disappearance in the end of Ilias' route, he even has a more personal stake in his journey now outside of trying to find out what the hell his dad is doing and saving the world.
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>>183264880
That's just Luka always wanting to save the world, as usual. And of course he'd care about his childhood friend.
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>>183264880
Eh. Trying to follow in his dad's footsteps is a bit of a nebulous character setting he has. Michaela's death was a more powerful, character-forming scene than that since, rather than something that was just informed to us, we actually got to witness it playing out in its entirety. More pathos, less logos, that kind of shit. Emotional responses come from strong emotions, not strong and character-informed motivations.

For Luka's yearning for his father to evoke a more emotional response, it has to actually show a stronger influence on Luka's own emotions and thoughts in the plot, but so far, it's just something to be acknowledged as being a part of his character setting.

Well, all that said, I'm just comparing the worth of Michaela's death with Luka's goal of chasing after his father. Luka's character has still been pretty weak regardless, compared to his VN self.
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I like Alice
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>>183264880
>>183264935
The problem on Alice route is that Alice ALSO feels like a bystander, a lore dispenser, and your lead character is... uh... a directionless party. Having a party as a lead is fine, but even the party makeup is "whoever is recruited and plot relevant right now".

So Alice route just feels so much less focused and without direction or purpose, because BOTH leads themselves feel like they're wandering pretty aimlessly through the plot.

Honestly, I don't even consider Sonia so far to be much more than the shocked reaction face and jealous girl for comedy scenes. Given that you could avoid recruiting her for at least a substantial time, it makes sense that she's not allowed to be particularly impactful for most of the story.

Chrome and Promestein and Hild, and the nation leaders, all feel like relevant characters with varying levels of fleshing out, and feel more developed than Luka and Alice as a result. Even Lazarus and Eden by this point...
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>>183265495
clothed Eden is very pretty
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>>183264208
not really, we already know all about her from the previous game and she doesn't really do much
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>>183265495
Hopefully, with things going off the rail in part 3 (since how much of the story can exploring Hellgondo even occupy? I'm pretty sure visiting the Monster Lord's Castle will be the first thing you do anyway, and Hellgondo has few places to visit anyway).

I kinda disagree with you on your last point, though. At least for Hild and Promestein. They do have a bigger impact on you than Luka or Alice simply because they're "new" or a different side of an established character, but they don't really feature that much in the story. Especially Hild, who was rather absent in pretty much the entirety of Part 2.

Chrome, though, is pretty much just continuing her previous character arc in the VN, so things haven't really changed for her in the shift to Paradox. So yeah, she's all around got a better arc than Luka/Alice. Same with the other kingdom leaders, actually; even though they're pretty much in the same situation as Promestein of showing us a different side of the same characters (or, in Grand Noah Queen's case, a seldom-featured side, since she's pretty much the same character she was in the VN), they were all more involved in the plot around the time of the Monster Queens' invasions on their kingdoms and the subsequent planing sessions that occurred afterward. Grangold King is on somewhat shakier grounds than the other 3 (still better than his VN self because of that Pocket Castle sidequest fleshing his character out a bit more), but he's still a step up over his VN incarnation in terms of how interesting he is.
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fuck akazawa red
Worst thing that's happened to this franchise
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>>183265746
Yeah, Alice is just lacking... a new motivation, and gains no amount of humility like Ilias.

It's not like scenes with her mom can even do anything for that, we already had those too in Part 3.

Regardless of which, or both, Ancestors and Angels worlds we visit, we already know Alice will vocally oppose them... it's no different than her opposing various bosses in the VN. There's no new direction or angle for Alice, even if Ancestor-land has an "evil" Alice 16th (by Shiki).

Ilias, on the other hand... Ilias-land should be exactly what original Ilias wanted, so seeing Lolias opposing that, seeing that she's come to a point where she respects the decisions of others even if they're wrong, that will be a treat. Even more so if Ilias acknowledges positive traits of Ancestor-land, while opposing it on a large scale.

That's what makes it more worthwhile and interesting, taking an established character and then changing them over time, to the point where if you put them against their past self, they'd be in opposition. Paradox makes that situation quite literal.

>>183265901
Promestein isn't new though. While this is a younger less-driven version, she's still very similar. It's nice that it's come up a few times now that everyone considers the normal/future version of her to be way too amoral to the point of being callous and evil.

Hild's got the "Why was a robot made to ____" going on with her various features. She's reasonable in combat but her primary ability was reproduction. But in both cases, why was she made with the "ability" to feel and be affected by cold temperatures? (Comes up during the last camp.) I quite liked her exchange with Radio regarding emotions too.

Just saying all this stuff offers some newness to characters that Luka&Alice aren't getting.
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>>183259297
>wake up with gf
>she acts confused
>think it's weird and ask other people for confirmation if I have a gf
>wake up
This just happened.
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>>183264693
Whatever man, all I really was trying to do was point out the exaggeration in his post. You really should have brought that up in the first place instead of what you actually went with instead, because it's a way more solid arguement.
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>>183266373
Did she femdom you at least?
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>>183266398
No, I picked her up instead.
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>>183266349
>Promestein isn't new though. While this is a younger less-driven version, she's still very similar. It's nice that it's come up a few times now that everyone considers the normal/future version of her to be way too amoral to the point of being callous and evil.
Yeah, I wasn't referring to Promestein as being new; the "a different side" was describing her.

And on those points about Hild; I feel like they really weren't given that much attention. They're just simple foreshadowing of her purpose, but her character itself hasn't had much fleshing out. So far, she hasn't moved much at all from her initial character settings.
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>>183266081
You're trying to force a bad meme, but it's not gonna work.
I wouldn't be surprised if you're actually the same faggot who tried to force that "we" hate Rance.
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>>183266924
>tried to force that "we" hate Rance
What?
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>>183266924
Wait. Who's "we"? And why did "we" hate Rance?
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>>183267034
There was no "we" just some guy who tried to make that a common opinion here
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>>183266924
Actually, a significant amount of people dislike his heavenly knight designs.
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>>183267184
Yes, yes.

Actually, I've got reports to the contrary: An EXTREMELY significant amount of people actually like his heavenly knight designs.
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>>183267184
>>183267239
I dunno who does and doesn't, Alma's looks a little weird but Granberia is straight up painful, her head seems to always be crooked.

Always.
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>>183267184
A vocal minority authistic screeching about something they don't like is now the officially approved majority. Ok
There are way more people that do like the new designs, or are simply in the grey zone, they just aren't vocal about it compared to someone else.
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>>183267239
I prefer Newberry and Newlias, but Classic Alma is better than the new one. Alma's cut-in is just terrible.
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Imagine being so contrarian that you'll defend a lazy artist who defiled iconic characters just because someone you don't like is espousing that view. It's like saying the botched fresco painting of Jesus is good because you hate christians.
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>>183267006
>>183267034
Like this guy >>183267182 said, he was just spamming that around the time of the last /vg/ cup, but everyone just called him a retard and ignored.
>>183267184
A "significant amount" isn't you, one other guy here and 2 random japs over 2ch. Most people either like the new designs or don't care about them, but it seems like it's impossible for you to understand that not everyone shares your shit taste.
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>>183267485
You're a nostalgiafag, anon, plain and simple. Alma Elma's original model wasn't even that good; the new one is a big improvement.

Come on, anon. Give me your crappy rebuttal and go. I won't even care since I know it's going to be a shitty response anyway; you did well in lowering my expectations with this one post, after all.
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>>183257501
What is this imp cream you all keep talking about?
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>>183267567
Finally someone with a brain. It's fine if you don't like something, but saying the same shit every thread, multiple times even, is completely useless. You won't change other people tastes, and you surely won't change the fact that they are in the game, so why bother? Keep your taste for yourself and enjoy what you like without being an authist about it.
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>>183267741

Scat.
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>>183267741
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>>183267765
>Keep your taste for yourself
Where do you think we are?
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>>183268001
What is it with fucking weirdos and Rumi?
Also how would a monster convert food into near pure fat? Fuck >>183240552, now all I can imagine is Rumi shoving cakes in her face so she can use the excess energy to convert to fat for soft serve.
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>>183268215
I know, with moderation it's fine/funny/good, but after a while you reach a point where it's simply annoying.
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>>183267765
>keep your taste for yourself
I love you voreanon here's your you
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>>183268761
Hey anon?
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>>183268821
What?
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>>183268215
>Keep your taste for yourself
Tamamo is the best waifu and your shitty opinion won't ever change this.
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>>183268961
Do you like monster musume?
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>>183269640
>monster musume
If you want to know how shit your taste actually is please consult this image.
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>>183267482
Ct looks good imo. A bit of an awkward arm but for the 1 second that you see it, looks cool.
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>>183270104
Miia is the normalfag waifu, best girl is Lala followed closely by Rachnera.
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>>183267317
>>183267426
>>183267482
>>183267567
>>183267691
Aside from one idiot polarizing everyone to either love it or hate it, it's certainly worth discussing the factors behind the changes. What was so bad about the old portraits that merited a redesign? Was Akazawa Red the ideal artist for this redesign? Was his execution done well? Should these changes have been announced beforehand instead of being left as a suprise?
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>>183270104
>each and miaa places inverted
What do you think this means?
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Demon girls are for ___________!
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>>183272819
testing the full capabilities of Quadruple Giga
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>>183272819
Delete this you sick fuck
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New Fobs is finally out!
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>>183271581
It means Japanese actually have good taste
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>>183273491
Well yeah he's deleting that demon by stabbing it.
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>>183271293
And this is the good way of creating an interesting discussion. Onto your questions then:
>What was so bad about the old portraits that merited a redesign?
Uhm, this, i think, is a difficult one to tackle, since it's too easy too fall into personal tastes, and those can vary a lot. I can say that i was surprised about that like almost everyone, i didn't see it coming. And I think that was the reason behind this decision. To breath new life into the characters, get them an higher grade of "these people aren't the ones you used to know", and the visuals are the simplest thing to do it and accentuate that into the story. I think this simply because everything else would fall onto personal taste, you can't please everyone, and as a creator you shouldn't be binded by that need, the old graphics had both good and bad points, either by an objective and a more personal subjective point of view.
> Was Akazawa Red the ideal artist for this redesign?
This question is simpler in which you could change Akazawa Red with mostly anyone else, and the question would still be valid. We don't know what brought TT to choose him for the job, he could have been the best artist that got the time to spare at the time to do the job, or he simply thought he was good enough with his style, maybe after seeing his doujins, in which I think he demonstrated a good ability to portray such characters. What I think was done wrong, was checking his works enough and criticize where needed, so he could be able to adjust in time if something was not so good. To continue and tie in with the next question > Was his execution done well? I think that overall he did a good job, I like his Ilias a lot, Alma for me is good too, but I'm with others here in thinking that Granberia feels...not as much Granberia, something is missing. It could simply be that it was ok for TT tastes, or that near the end, for any reason, things were rushed out, or there wasn't good comunication between the parts
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>>183252972
What the fuck...
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>>183272819
Ilias bless your soul battle brother
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>>183271293
>>183274391
Continuing here

to adjust what needed to be adjusted in time for the release.
Should these changes have been announced beforehand instead of being left as a suprise?
I think that keeping them as a surprise was the right move, it made them more impactful and interesting, but at the same time they were a cauldron ready to explode for the people who were unhappy with them and felt something like betrayal. Still, previewing or announcing them wouldn't have changed that, people like that would still bitch about it, but we would have lost an interesting surspise. Remember that when the game dropped, most of us were surprised and curious, discussing about that, much more then the people who were vocal about not liking it, and that wouldn't have happened if we saw it coming.
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What is mephisto's trait?
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>>183271293
I understand why trtr wouldn't announce the changes as that would detract attention significantly from part 2, but it coming out of nowhere isn't endearing. The first illusion in iliasburg shows old granberia, generating the expectation that that particular Granberia design will be used, seeing otherwise is jarring and inconsistent.
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>>183275580
Being ugly as fuck.
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Could somebody post a picture of Aqua Pentagram, pretty pretty please?
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>>183275580
Her normal form just increases magic abilities (black magic, white magic, and something else; time magic?) while her snake form replaces the something else with, I think, demon arts?
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>>183276603
It isn't though, most likely it will work like in Ilias case, the old portraits are probably going to be used for their main world counterparts that will have reused scenes.
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http://imgur.com/a/5zMmv
new chapter
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Are these little fuckers supposed to shapeshift when i hit them?
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>>183277070
Is that woman Part bug or holding a giant cock
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huh, how the heck do I cum in new FOBS?
I maxed lust with fapping but now he only uses that magic round thing that teleports him home
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>>183276973
What in the fuck is daily about this?
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>>183276778
This doesn't look like a pentagram
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>>183277527
you're supposed to be able to select which one you want to use, i had the same problem and a restard fixed it
Problem is, it seems like i can't load any new saves.
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>>183277682
I can't believe i typed Restard
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With regards to Akazawa Red, I prefer the old Alma and Granberia, but i don't hate the new ones, even if i find them somewhat disappointing, however I like his Ilias, I'm not sure why his Ilias seems to be of a better quality (at least in my opinion) than his Alma and Granberia.

And for those who want a different topic of conversation, what Jobs do you think Granberia will have? Obviously, much like Alma has mastered Tier 3 martial arts stuff and tier 3 sex stuff, Granberia will have mastered Tier 3 sword stuff (including possibly the master SpellSword job), but what else will she have? Alma also had some tier 2 jobs like Doctor, Maid and Chef mastered, so I suspect Granberia will similarly have surprising jobs in tier 2 she has mastered. An obvious one in Magical Girl because of the events of the magical girl quest, but I wonder what else she might have. Thoughts?
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>>183277682
Is the teleport an item like the fap one? I am using the save that was shipped with game and I only have the fap ability and can't cum no matter what
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>>183277821
I strongly suspect a story event will grant them sealed jobs to enable them to compete with the archangels and ancestors.
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>>183277856
Doesn't seem like it. It's in the same row as the black keysone but I can't select it.
Maybe Zell overlooked something and bound the hearthstone to the same key as fap
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>>183210398

The entire experiment was probably thrown off by that. What a terrible scientist.
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>>183278239
I mean, I think the sealed jobs will be available to more or less everybody.

Maybe new unlockable traits? I mean, just because they'll become permanent party members in Part 3, that doesn't mean they can't power-up in Part 3 like our older party members presumably will.
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Are their any new Grandeur scenes in part 2? I can't imagine how things can get worse from part 1. I'm honestly surprised the place is still standing and not bankrupt from lawsuits thanks to Luka's friends's hijinks on stage
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>>183277821
Luka and Alice talk about a Monster Swordsman job that she can only grant access to as a Monster Lord, so assuming that actually had something to do with the job system that sounds like it fits Grand Berry perfectly. That's probably where you would get the spirit-enhanced monster skills Alice teaches Luka.
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>>183247249
I thought this wasn't translatedI wonder how she'd react to someone calling her an old hag
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>that last portion of wallbut trap
jesus fuck, am I retard for not keeping up?
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>>183249432
That's not the right answer to the captcha. You needed to select 12 squares.
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Anyone have an issue in FOBS when you're trying to masturbate but right at the climax it turns into some kind of hearth spell that takes you home?
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>>183279389
7 | 4,10
______
2,6| 1
______
3,8| 5,9
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>you win 1 slime rape
T-thanks
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Does anyone have a part 2 full save?
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>>183279340
>Alma
>old hag
Huh? She's most likely in her 20's.
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>>183280413
Then Nero should call her an old hag.
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I must be retarded because I can't figure out the gargoyle room
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that mouth thing spooked me
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>>183280413
For the brief moment you have Alma in the party can you go to Pornof or is it streamlined where you have to go where you need to while you have her? the lolicon guy there would probably call her an old hag. What's gonna stop Sonya from obliterating the town once she comes back with her new powers?
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>>183281110
The mirrors in the other room give the pattern
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>>183280312
You want to fap to the h-scenes don't you?
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how do capture new mon girls? How hard do I fuck em or whatever?
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>>183278881

Oh there's plenty and it's more dangerous than ever.

>Black Alice performance
>The lights go out and half the audience disappears
>As the audeince wonders where everyone went Black Alice only giggles
>Eden, Lucifina and Micaela sing about Ilias
>Eden's horrid singing causes the audience's ears to bleed in agony to Lucifina's amusement
>Succubus raping the audience on stage
>Vampires take the stage and say the auditorium is too bright, they keep asking the people to lower the lights
>It keeps going till it's pitch black, which then leads to screams from the audience
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>>183281398
Isn't that obvious?
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>>183281575
http://vps.zamanen.net/mon-taiken/Save.zip
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>>183281442
And the keep coming back each time ?
Men in Paradox aren't very bright, are they ?
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>>183281442
Oh,god. all I can imagine is Luka and Sonya apologizing to the manager profoundly after each and every performance.
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>>183281712
It's not just men, though? Everyone goes to the theater. It's a theater for entertainment, not a brothel; it just turns out that the entertainment turns into sex for a few cases.
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>>183281263
Do you mean the hallway?
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>>183281442
>rape
Nah man they invited those guys on stage for a demonstration. Only problem the manager had was that the stage got filthy with milk.1
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>>183281957
The room where you have to double jump to avoid the shadowy things
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>>183281957
It's a room attached to the hallway. Look for something different.
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>>183281962

From memory it was basically an advertisement for the succ village right? either way they milked men on stage, as for more things there was there was the spiders attacking the audience and the four spirits causing a natural disaster on stage.

I wonder what part 3 has in store.
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not Black Alice has yandere eyes!
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>>183282270
>I wonder what part 3 has in store.
Live performance of archangels, seraphs, ancestors, monster lords, the truth behind Granberia.
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>>183282319
Cute! But I detect... Mania? Sadness? Rage? For a moment I can see beyond the attractiveness into the vile monster within.
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>>183282690

>Performance with Alma and Granberia
>Granberia just gets molested on stage
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Who is that insect buzzing around best girl?
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>>183282690
>ancestors
>audience slowly decreases as kanon and kanade eat them
>minagi isn't even on stage because her latent sexuality would make everyone cream themselves
>tamamo mindwipes people so they come back for more
>hiruko stands in the corner looking mysterious
>saja plays the straight man to everyone's antics like chrome and elf except she doesn't get pranked off of the stage this time
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>>183239692
>She's a big angel

For you
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Anyone have a fobs full save? i wanna get a fap in before work
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>>183282319
Is this madman making an image every day?
They're super cute
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>>183285043
>fobs
this is the abreviation of...
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>>183285245
Forest of Blue Skin, it's in the OP
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>>183285245
Forest of Blue Skin, there's a link in the OP.
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>>183285407
>>183285417
oh! thanks
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FOBS update was kinda disappointing
It's good to see he's trying new stuff, but it somehow lacks something
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>>183285245
forest of blue skin
The OP version is outdated, though. Newest version is 1.12a.
The download can be found here http://ux.getuploader.com/zell23999/download/18/FOBSver1.12a.zip
The password is fobsz1712
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>>183283437
Not entirely sure I grasped the full meaning of their castle scene
>SP calls Sonya an annoying fly buzzing around her son-in-law
>Sonya asks why she uses the word typically used for son-in-law instead of husband since she clearly views Luka as her spouse.
>Apparently this is something people did back in the day and SP is old fashioned. SP tells Sonya to stop being petty.
>"Oh, so you're an old wife then?"
>*Expression of annoyance*
>Sonya laughs
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I'm trying to patch part 2 but after running GameSelector it gets stuck here no matter how long I wait. Any ideas how to fix it ?
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>>183286342
common events is huge and if you're on a toaster its gonna take a while
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How are you supposed to know if an enemy in LoC or the colosseum has reflect?
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>>183288238
trial and error
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How do you open that door that's at the bottom of the stairs. Is the witches house additions just the bunny and booty room
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>>183286052
Point, Sonya. I can almost imagine her doing that ojou laugh
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What if Alice dad is panty sensei
And the panty sniffing power manifest itself in Nero
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>>183288820
>What if Alice dad is panty
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Anybody know if you can capture the rabit
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I want a xelvyquest
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>>183290609
Fake KC would never pull that shit
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>>183291351
I wouldn't be so sure
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>>183247249
they were fucking all night.
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>>183292827
Context, Alma didn't do anything strange to Luka did she?
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>>183247249
>>183292827
How far translated is Paradox 2 at the moment?
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Anyone mention that the pastebin guide got nuked?
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>>183293530
50%
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>>183291574
That's a far different context from what was presented. It's like if you captioned a vore scene and ended with "and now he's twinkies"
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>>183294182
It made fun of Akazawa Red so it was removed.
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>>183294247
Even with Part 1's translation in it wouldn't reach 50% actually.
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>>183294584
40%
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>>183178957
>Incorrect, as Ilias's entry makes it clear that she's equal to the first monster lord.
And first Monster Lord is the Dark Goddess, her twin, your point?
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>>183286342
Now I get this when using Ytinasni.RpgMaker.Translator
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>>183279768
I'm still not sure what the item you get for clearing that does. It looks like some kind of charge attack, but nothing happens.
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What do I do with 2.02? Just drag and replace?
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>>183295720
It's the hearthstone, warps you home
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>>183295301
Alice's entry says she's the strongest since the first. That puts her in seraph class at least.
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>>183295842
Yeah, technically you never get to fight VN Alice at her best. Hades Alice doesn't count because of mana bullshit.
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>>183296018
Isn't Hades Alice a cut and pasted VN Alice from her first bad ending?
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>>183296206
Yeah but you fight her in the Paradox world.
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>>183296206
Not completely. She has more health than the VN.
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>>183295842
>Alice's entry says she's the strongest since the first
Who writes those entries, anyway? Tamamo?
Well, I guess Saja would sort of be an exception to any comparisons considering she was only posthumously considered the 2nd.
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>>183296485
You can't really compare stats between the VN and Paradox like that. If we're told she's a copy she's a copy.
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Are those blob riding girls in Zell's new update broken for anyone else?
>Hit them and they become ant girls that force you reset the game
>Same if you run into them
>Their blob attack just goes right through you
Considering it's behind the statue that doesn't look different, I can't help but wonder if this was some beta area that Zell forgot to cut.
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>>183296408
Given the subconscious nature of hades, it could be either or neither.
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>>183296805
Nope. There was no Hades in the VN.
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Why do you people keep forgetting you fight bosses 4-8 vs 1 in Paradox?
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>>183297102
Neither was there White Rabbit, yet she's the one who resets the timeline for Ilias.
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>>183297305
Wait, doesn't White Rabbit give Luka the key to Hades?
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>>183297305
When was that stated? As far as I read Illias did the time loops on her own.
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>>183297525
Ilias has no power over the soul return system. Even after Ariel kills Luka's soul she's surprised he came for the evaluation.
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>>183296803
getting similar issues, sometimes you can break out but it's rare and their attack doesn't do anything.
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>>183297617
Just watched the Ariel evaluation and there was no surprise. Illias stated that the soul return system was her creation so I don't know why you would doubt that.
And why the fuck would Rabbit help Illias fuck with time when that's the opposite of what she wants. She even criticizes her for it in the temple before telling her that it wasn't directly the cause of the Paradox.

Sounds like more headcanon.
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>>183296570
Best Ancestor!
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I hate monsters.
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>>183298618
I think he meant the Silkiel evaluation.
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>>183298726
I hate human girls. Especially the ones drawn by Xelvy.
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>>183298618
>her creation
Alice I can do the same thing, that's what they're using to bring people over to her world.
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anyone know where cockroach grills are in FOBS? found all the other new ones but i cant find the cockroaches...

Also
>>183298596
>>183296803
" Puyo devil (monster riding in Black Puyo) is a monster that is not implemented this time.The hidden portal itself is a bug that forgot to erase.Please be aware that it will be buggy by all means (0: 54 postscript)" from zell999's blog thing
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>>183298618
Maybe it was a different angel, but it was definitely one that destroys his soul and Ilias was surprised he came for the evaluation.
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>>183299049
Virtue Revel maybe?
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>>183298870
It's not Silkriel. She just states that it was hard to reclaim Luka's scattered soul.

>>183299049
>>183299235
I assume that this is it. But I don't see how two sentences about Illias being surprised that the soul return system managed to reclaim Luka's soul before it could be reborn is supposed to show that Illias has no control over the soul return system and that it was all done by the White Rabbit.
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>>183299745
Because the soul return system still works even when Ilias is raping Luka.
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Quick question bois

How do we recruit the demon cow queen?
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>>183300026
Getting 10 of those food items the other cows drop then going to the cow that is in the cave.
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>>183300026
Show her the proof of friendship from that minotaur at the end of the cave.
This is done by killing minotaurs in the tower until you have 10 sukiyaki, which is what the cave's minotaur is hungry for. They can also be generated by the third tier cook job.
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>>183300193
Thanks anon!
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>>183299884
And? It's clearly autonomous to a degree. That doesn't mean it's out of her hands.
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>>183300290
And thank you alot too, Anon
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>>183300327
If she's unable to stop it then it's beyond her. Just because Lucifina gives Luka an evaluation doesn't mean she has control over it.
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>>183300515
Why the hell would you think that she couldn't stop it? What makes you think that she couldn't.

She states in Paradox that it's a spell that she has to maintain and is surprised that it's still functioning without her doing so in her weakened state. You know, because there is another Illias?
If she wanted to stop it then she could just not power the damn spell.
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>>183300910
>Why the hell would you think that she couldn't stop it?
Are you fucking retarded? >>183299884
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>>183300910
And yet somehow after that Ilias dies the evaluations still work and Luka is still brought back to life. Granted the very last one is by Akazawa Ilias but there's still Sonya Mazda's/Mainyu's.
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>>183301035
Did you ever stop and think that maybe Illias wanted her plan to reach completion?

>>183301178
>but there's still Sonya Mazda's/Mainyu's.

Did you try reading the evaluations? She introduces herself.
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>>183301740
>Illias wanted her plan to reach completion
Her plan reaches completion in her final form.
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>Ilias wanted to play a 1000 year long con that ended with her forces defeated and her ultimate form defeated
You cannot be this retarded.
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>>183302232
Micaela was Luka's trump card.
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>>183301862
Ah, so you mean the final form rape. That is a mystery and we obviously don't know how the Lucifina was able to appear within the system or help Luka ressurect.

Saying that Illias can't control the system because of that scene is insane. I didn't think you would try to argue with that as it was obviously a very special moment.
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>>183302392
It's only a mystery if you're dumb
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>>183302392
No it isn't. If she had control over it that would not have happened, full stop.
Here's a funny thing, you know the one person with the most connection to death we have, Reaper? She flat out says not even Ilias herself understands how death works. So, what's that supposed to mean in this example, when someone who has died beyond Ilias's power to return them can use the thing she supposedly controls?
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>>183302232
It would had worked if it wasn't for the Fallen angels.
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>>183302803
>>>183302948
You know what? Let's wrap this up into a tidy package.
>Luka's dead mom shows up to assist him in his final battle for the future at the climatic end of the series
>This means that Illias has no control over a system that the game states that she created and maintains
>This also means that the White Rabbit, a character that not only has no reason to assist Luka, but would be going against her displayed goals by doing so is responsible for it

>So, what's that supposed to mean in this example, when someone who has died beyond Ilias's power to return them can use the thing she supposedly controls?

That a power that Illias wasn't aware of was able to utilize the system to bring someone back? A parallel world Illias was able to use the system as well.
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>>183302232
This is bait
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>>183303829
You're doing way too many mental backflips. Ilias THINKS she has control over it, but she doesn't.
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The existence of the soul reincarnation system raises more questions than it answers. It was better when it was a metajoke to explain all the evaluation comments as well as alluding to players who purposely lose to watch the scenes. But now that it's a plot point:

How do souls work with Zombies? Shirome reanimating her own corpse makes it seem as though living is purely biological, yet Alice XV's final moments showed that she only regained her spirit in the end. Also if souls are reincarnated, how were their spirits able to possess their corpses?

Is there an afterlife? The reincarnation system indicates that there isn't, yet the fact that Marcellus and Lucifina reappeared in the final battle shows that there is. Since Heaven is Ilias's territory, where did they go?

Is this system unique to Ilias or could Alipheese do something similar? Is every living thing that dies fed into the system or just humanity?

How are new souls added into the system if everyone is reincarnated? Does Ilias force a hard limit on the human population by not reincarnating above a certain number?

Are Revel, Silkiel, and Eggiel recycling souls full time, as in they are always churning out new souls? Don't they say it's rare when they have a chance to personally apply it?
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>>183304113
>Since Heaven is Ilias's territory, where did they go?
Who said Heaven was just Ilias' territory? Didn't Alice 1 return to the heavens after the second monster lord took over?
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>>183304625
Heaven disappeared after Ilias died, as said in a Q&A.
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>>183305259
And Alipheese was sealed in another dimension during that time.
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>>183304024
There is a GRAND CANYON WIDE difference between "Have no control over" and "Can be taken control of in special occasions".

>How do souls work with Zombies?
They're corpses that are animated by magic. They can have their souls return to them but most work without it.

>Is there an afterlife? Since Heaven is Ilias's territory, where did they go?
Lucifina was 100% dead and Illias doesn't know. She's never been truly dead or brought back anyone who was to find out.

>Is this system unique to Ilias or could Alipheese do something similar?
It was stated the holy deals with the spiritual and dark deals with the physical. Alice 1 couldn't reincarnate someone anymore than Illias could turn an animal into an angel.

How are new souls added into the system if everyone is reincarnated?
Souls have to be created on their own and everyone likely isn't reincarnated.
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>>183304024
The monsters are transmigrating souls from Paradox world into their own using the same method that Ilias invented.

It's obvious she has some control or savvy or whatever when it comes to that sort of thing. They wouldn't go out of their way to tell you that otherwise
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>>183305442
A fate worse than death. Hopefully Alice and Tamamo find a way to unseal them.
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>>183305597
>dark deals with the physical
Which is why her seal had a failsafe if too much dark energy was released.
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>>183305635
I'm assuming you're talking about paradox part 2 here so I'll just wait for the translation and not read what some machine translation or random anon understood from it.
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Anyone discover any new capturables in FOBS?
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>edens thighs
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>>183305727
I can imagine that in the epilogue, Tamamo could use Promestein's research to unlock their seals in the end, but it drives a rift between her and Alice. Would make for an interesting story.
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New difficulty mode with 8x stats when? Paradox is too easy
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>>183296570
It's actually straight up said that historically speaking the 1st and 2nd often get mixed up because both were only retroactively considered "Monster Lords" (and both were around at the same time)

I don't know if that's just trtr covering his ass because he didn't originally plan for Alice 2 to be an ancestor or what(thus leading to inconsistencies like this), but yeah.
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>>183306306
>Eden's everything
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>>183305727
Yeah, because Alice 1 and the ancestors sure were nice people that dindu nuffin.
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>>183304113
Reaper does say there's an afterlife, it's probably what's beyond Hades. As for zombies it's possible that the residual memories they keep are from their bodies themselves and Shirome just managed to do really well preserving her corpse. Would explain why she keeps saying Chrome's sister has already died at least.
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>>183303829
>White Rabbit, a character that not only has no reason to assist Luka
What? She has all the reasons in the world to assist him.
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what does this even do?
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>>183306272
Yeah theres a roach, a caterpillar, a loli siren, a rabbit and a gargoyle
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>>183306925
Which are?
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>>183307006
how do people even figure out the capture process?
do they just try everything?
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>>183306990
It's a hearthstone
up+a to use
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>>183307137
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>>183306778
Luka and Alice can kick their ass until they accept coexistence.
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>>183307118
Saving the world.
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>>183271293
First, I'll state that I'm a big fan of Frfr, but I don't dislike Akazawa Red.
I preferred the old 4HK designs, although I will say that alma had some CREATIVE anatomy in some of her scenes (see Grand Noah scene, her spine is absolutely obliterated). The designs themselves however are fine, and I think they were mostly kept faithful (minus changes to Alma's tail that were, in my opinion stupid). I don't think that Akazawa Red was the best artist to tackle this, he's better at working with angels. I think that they should have kept their original art of the original versions, and gotten versions by Shiki for their redrawings, to be consistent with Shikimamo. I think that, regardless of what you think of Akazawa Red's art style/skill, he really didn't do a great job with the 4HK for whatever reason. Frfr Alma certainly had a few anatomical problems, but look at schoolgirl Alma's neck and how incredibly jarring it is. I found this really disappointing as an Alma Elma fan. I feel like announcing them earlier wouldn't have done much but make (some of) us disappointed sooner. Honestly, in concept Akazawa Red redesigns don't even sound that bad, I liked the design for Loli Illias.
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>>183308367
>>183307185
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Same anon who asked about demon cow

I dont see anywhere in the guides about posideness, how do we recruit her?
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