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TERMITE EDITION

Beta is LIVE on PS4
Destiny 2 BETA is LIVE

>>>NEWS<<<
Destiny 2 Gameplay Reveal Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn1dML6RC5w
Destiny 2 E3 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8E7jUjOQi0
Destiny 2 Zavala Story Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H0RD-E38So
Destiny 2 Official Beta Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohcDVmVfPLA
PC Details: http://www.pcgamer.com/destiny-2-pc-reveal/
IGN First: http://ie.ign.com/articles/2017/07/03/destiny-2-all-the-newest-details-in-one-place-a-ign-first
Latest TWAB: https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46062/

>>>D1 RESET INFO<<<
Nightfall: The Sunless Cell w/ Arc Burn, Berserk, Brawler, Airborne, and Daybreak
Heroic Strikes: Small Arms, Chaff, and Airborne
Heroic Story: Specialist and Grounded
Crucible Weekly: Zone Control
Xur: N/A
Trials of Osiris: N/A

Weekly Featured Raid: Crota's End
Deathsinger Challenge: Must attain sword from Knight after clearing all adds and then taking the sword and killing Ir Yût with it.
Crota Challenge: No one can drop the sword and no one can wield the sword twice.

>>>BETA INFO<<<
Beta is up on PSN and the Beta file is 15.06 GB

You can still redeem your beta code if you have not already, enter it on Bnet's redemption page.

For those who pre-ordered digitally on PSN, here's a link:
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/destiny-2-beta/cid=UP0002-CUSA08415_00-DESTINY2BETA0001

Optional clan for new players coming through for the beta:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/1985671

Obtaining the BETA if you haven't pre-ordered via JPN PSN account (Circle = Confirm, Cross = Back):
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/6mtct8/how_to_obtain_early_access_for_β_free_of_charge/
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First for alpha Team, matt, and BV need to fuck off
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Pretty irritating that I can only use my super once per game and maybe 3 times per strike.
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2nd for best girl
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First for new crucible is shit. Bring back 6v6
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>>183119654

All i can do is add and remove people from Density.

I don't have the account details.
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>>183121674
Alpha Team: Cancerous, but are the best in the thread

Matt: Reddit and powerhungry

BV: The jiro of Xbox
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>>183121784
BV is literally the fakest person in this thread. Tries way too hard to be nice when we all know he was the biggest dude bro when he first came here. Just pretending to be gay do he can fit in Apples clique
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SOMEONE GET BUNGIE ON THE FUCKING PHONE
WHY KICK ALL THE WAY BACK TO LOADING SCREEN
>>183121382
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>>183121689
They need to increase super gain and ability gain in PvE it's way to slow part of the fun in Destiny 1 was busting into a room with friends and nuking the area.

Also it sucks that in PvP everyone gets there supers at about the same time
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>>183122124
We already know that ability recharge speed boost perks exist on armor, just for whatever reason none of the armor in the beta has perks aside.
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2/4 for Countdown
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>>183122192
That its graphical fidelity is too high for current-gen consoles to handle at 60fps
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>>183122192
PHYSICS
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>>183122192

CPU limitations caused by physics.
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>>183122192
They never said that. As for Destiny 2, the CPUs in the current gen consoles are too shitty to run the game at a consistent 60 without excessive sacrifices.
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>>183121767
So, no more [DMV]?
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What do we think of the first story mission? I think it does a great job setting up a mood and the Ghaul cutscene was really great. But the leaders talk on the comms a bit much and I STILL can't force myself to care about Ikora but whatever. Still a big improvement from 1 and I hope it delivers.
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>tripfags already returning
here we go for another three years...
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>>183121784
I think matt is ok
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>>183122192
Graphics alone the PS4 / Xbone GPUs would run Destiny 2 at 60 fps, possibly 4K
However the CPUs process the AI, physics, and engine limiting the frame rate
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>not taking a pike to the inverted spire
>2k17
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>>183121767
If you can't get into the account it'll go up for reclaim for someone else, just ask bob to take the name and make you moderator or some shit
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>>183122460

It was nice. Ghaul pissed me off, and set himself up well.

Ikora is still shit though. Throws a nova bomb and fucks off.
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>>183122460
Pleasantly surprised by how much longer it was compared to what was shown off in pre-beta footage.
I also really hope they implement more missions as public spaces. Fighting alongside different players randomly was really cool.
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>>183122460
Post yfw Ghost fucking dies and you grab him to keep what's left of him safe.
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>>183122937
Yeah?
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>>183122574
He's not, he's seriously power hungry. If you were around in year one he had you put your name in a fucking gdoc to join his shitty clan. He's a fucking idiot.
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>>183122937
based on how bad bungo physics can be, i'd sacrifice the 60 fps to not get bungo'd.
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>>183122947
thank fuck, maybe that garbage will be replaced with a voice actor i can bear to listen to
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>>183123185
Well they did destroy the vault holding Touch of Malice
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>>183122665

I'm an admin in PT. Pretty sure that means I can make it into a D2 clan.

So many people moved to dg Destiny General anyways. I doubt the majority wants to switch again.
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>>183122234
Which means we can't test them. Do you honestly think they will have anything close to enough effect to compensate for ability cooldown nerfs?
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>>183122937
Differing framerates for PVE and PVP would be horrendous. The entire point of this game is seamlessly swapping between activities, and a change that jarring between the two would just make the 30FPS in PVE look even worse.
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>>183122947
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>>183123216
I was there, and that was only a playerlist
you know, like what other generals do?
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>>183123216
as someone who helped manage the doc it's because the clan system fucking sucks so we had to know who was applying for what clan if they were even playing on the right console.
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>>183123342
Yeah get fucked
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>>183123216

That wasn't just me who made that decision. I only followed the rules that were set in place.

I actually removed the gdoc requirement, but that's glossed over.
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>>183122707
The least they could do is give her SOME memorability. Her personality doesn't stand out and she doesn't really contribute to the plot and she's not interesting enough to enjoy her company. Even if Zavala doesn't stand out much he's still memorable. I don't wanna wait for the Osiris expansion for good Warlock story.
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Any ps4 clan?
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>>183123521
No they don't. Every Halo pre-5 was 30 FPS, and Halo 5 is always 60FPS. CoD I'm not familiar with at all though.
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>>183123704
>Optional clan for new players coming through for the beta:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/1985671
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>>183122234
>>183123364
Like, one of Bungie's explicit goals was to reduce ability usage in PvP. If the armor let you get back to D1 levels, that would defeat the point.

PvE is suffering for PvP again.
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>>183123872
It won't be T12 Destiny 1 levels, but it will still be faster than it is now with zero perks.
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whats the point of getting rid of my radar when i ADS thats so gay
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>>183124048
You just now noticed that?
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>>183123342
>I doubt the majority wants to switch again.
You'd be surprised.
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>>183124048
That has always happened in destiny. Look for guns with the "Third Eye" perk, lets you see the radar while you ADS
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>>183124048
So you can't just sit there and watch your radar while having the benefit of aiming
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>>183124123
It was absolute shite as a campaign but at it was always a smooth 60 for me.
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>>183123760
Cool joined
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is the strike on heroic?
eveyrthing is more bulletsponge
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>>183124123
The framerate never dips actually, and it makes great sacrifices to achieve it. It has the most aggressive dynamic quality and resolution settings I've ever seen in a game. It can go sub-720p
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>>183124147
>>183124201
i should have specified the annoying thing is how it doesn't come back for like a second after you release L2

I can't remember if it was like that before
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>>183124330
>eveyrthing is more bulletsponge
you just don't have a decent supply of special ammo anymore. pvp has really killed pve
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>>183124505
oh, yeah, the delay for it coming back sucks. I am not sure why they decided that it needed to be longer
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>>183122192
Because it's designed for PC this time.
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>>183124184

If the majority wants it, I can remove everyone from PT and give it a fresh coat of paint.

The biggest issue is that I cannot promote others to admin status. So if we wanted a true Density PT restart, it would mean making a new one by changing the original's name.

I'm really hesitant about that.
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>>183124627
It honestly seemed bugged, I've played that strike four times now and not once have I seen a single heavy brick drop.
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>fucked up and took yesterday off work for destiny 2 beta
>end up having to go home sick today
>it's vertigo
Wonder how this will end...
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>>183124771
We also don't have any ammo synth available
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>>183124771
it's their way of making sure we cant burn bosses for big damage anymore
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damn the SUROS handcannon is pretty sick
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>they didnt even fix hand cannon ghost bullets

my anger is growing
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>>183124994
My warlock portal buff and sniper was doing 1k damage. A good team working together could take this boss on pretty quick
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>>183125173
that and nightshade are the meta in crucible right now
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>>183125227
What are you talking about guardian?
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>>183124962
I could see them ditching synths honestly
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>>183124950
take A and C, faggot
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Bring back Peter Dinklage!
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>>183125381
What do you mean?
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>>183124736
What about Density I, which was pretty much the remake?
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>>183125432
>Bring back a more expensive actor, who hated the role so much he swore off vidya voice acting forever.
He also just wasn't available enough, its why Dark Below and House of Wolves had no Ghost lines. He was just too busy to come in and record anything.
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what the fuck is up with the ammo count? literally no fucking ammo, I've never used anything other than primaries because of this
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>>183125534
That's how it works in Destiny 2 now.
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>>183125525
Vitamins
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>available Dawnblade tree has 3 perks focused around killing in the air but without built in Icarus, so you're not going to kill anything with that awful aim penalty, only good perk is unlimited Twilight Garrison when supered and Surge
>available Voidwalker tree has awful Super ability, Energy Drain is nerfed, only good perk is the ability to sacrifice Super energy to make super grenades, which actually is pretty cool
>atrocious Resilience, enemy Warlocks go down noticeably faster than other classes
>Strikers get built-in Armamentarium and Aftershocks in one perk, damaging an enemy with Shoulder Charge recharges those grenades (and more efficiently than Energy Drain, IIRC) and a roaming FoH with Aftermath but are crying because they can't skate or 1HKO people every 5s
>Defenders get a buffed Warmachine perk (increases both reload speed and melee damage), melee kills restore their HP and nearby allies, Disintegration Barrier applies to nearby allies and they can still use WoD with AoL if they don't like the Shield
I dunno senpai, it's looking pretty stacked in Titans favor. I know shit's changed since the last time they showed D2 off and while change after the beta but right now Titans are clearly better than the other 2 classes and Warlocks got a hard nerf in most areas. Bungie, as usual, can't balance for shit and overnerfed. Literally only valid complaint Strikers have is that Shoulder Charge does too little damage since it likely won't even crack their shields. Don't play Hunter so I can't say shit one way or the other about them. Also, the high impact Scout is fucking shit.
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>reduced weapon damage to increase time to kill in PvP
>reduced weapon damage to increase time to kill in PvE
thanks bungie
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>>183126000
They said weapon damage in PVE is all wrong right now
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PVP is way too fucking slow.
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>>183125973
Firing in the air is super fine right now as Dawnblade what are you talking about
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>>183125642
Seems bugged, no power ammo drops in the strike ever. It was dropping pretty frequently in the story mission.
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>>183126084
Source? First I've heard of that.
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>>183126109
I really like it

You actually have to plan around CDs and jump trajectories instead of having a titan zoom around the corner at a mach 2
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>>183125973
>but without built in Icarus
both trees have a flight perk you dunce
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>>183125558

I'm the founder on that clan, so I have all permissions.
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>>183126325
Last weekly update
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>>183125701
Is it? I thought it was the same as 1 where you'll show up less frequently
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did you get everything yet?
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For me the beta on xbone drops at 12:00 am wednesday. Idk if thats when it becomes wednesday or when its changing from wednesday. Can someone hook me up with how many more hours its gunna be?
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>>183126415
better devils and tarantula not dropping
all shitt
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>the biggest destiny 2 streamer is using xim4
is it really that good? the controlling seems so smooth
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WHY THE FUCK DOES ARC STAFF MOVE SO SLOW AND HAVE SO MUCH GODDAMN ANIMATION LOCK HOLY FUCK
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>>183126595
Did he post his settings yet? I haven't gotten mine to feel all that great yet.
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>>183126598

The jumping and dancing is supposed to make you a harder target to hit.

Instead, it takes forever to get somewhere and you look dumb.
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>>183126172
I've tried it out and my shots still go way off target thanks to spread. Which guns are you using?

>>183126372
>>but without built in Icarus
>Icarus: Improved accuracy while airborne
>Winged Sun: Engage your enemies mid-flight, fire weapons and throw grenades while gliding
>Heat Rises: Airborne kills recharge Grenade and Melee energy
One of these effects isn't in the skill tree in any shape or form. Guess which one.
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>>183126404
You're going to have to be more specific, 'cause the only thing I see is "sandbox balancing", which is for PvP and PvE (but mostly PvP because Bungie hates PvE players).
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>>183127185
I think he probably means the oh shit better cover our ass line that reads like some things may not be as planned such as weapon damage, ability damage and the like.
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>>183127076
Winged Sun gives you a lot of flight but I will agree you have terrible aim penalties, I think you need to aim really low to hit anything.
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So who else is actually having a lot of fun with the beta? I enjoy countdown quite a bit
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>>183127632
reminds me of counter strike
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>>183127632
Arcstrider's Nonstop Infinite Dodge Climax setup is fun as fuck
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>>183127632
I've been too antsy to load into countdown I don't tend to do well in the high pressure pvp modes
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>>183126415
wghere do you get the morrigan-d?
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>>183127341
they're trying to gauge how much bullshit people will eat
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>>183128652
>playing wow
you know it's 2017 right
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>ps4 screenshots are too big to share directly
what's the easiest way to reduce filesize?
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>>183128798
Size them down in a photo editor
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Holy shit i just found out you can glide by holding O while midair as warlock, even with blink on! So you can jump>glide for some more height>blink at the apex of the glide. So fucking cool
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>>183128779
where do you get vehicle in beta?
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>>183129156
There are some fallen at the outskirts of the explorable area.
Including pike dregs.
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>>183129316
you can't keep it, right?
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>>183129403
No.
There aren't any equipable vehicles in the beta.
Gotta wait till september.
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>charged vortex grenade

shit is pretty fun.
Wonder if I'll roll titan or warlock at release.
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>>183129316
>>183128779
this
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>re rolling characters to try and see as many ships/shaders as possible
literally 0 human hunters of either gender and I got the same ship/shader 4 times in a row
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>>183129540
Super powerful for only a tiny fraction of your super meter i love it. Still going hunger tree tho for grenade munching
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>>183129540
Wish you could charge melees too
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>>183129767
>charged melee would further increase the recharge rate of your grenade

damn that be cool
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>>183129679
in beta they are all the same lul
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>>183123309

i miss dinklebot
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>>183130270
I've seen different ships and different shaders on the same ships. I just assumed the starting ships were class/race/gender based or something
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>>183130270
given I just rolled a human finally and, most times I roll I get different ships shaders welp not sure what to say there bub.
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>>183127632
im having fun with the beta. giving me a taste of whats to come and I can't wait for it.
I really can see how pvp might change and hopefully its a good change and not just changing things and still shitty
I'm hoping for lots to do cause I spent a lot of hours on the first game especially in year one.
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>>183128779

h-he's good!
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>>183130270
No they're not, my Titan is Exo Male while my friend's was Human Female.
>lul
Fuck off, twitch
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>you can finish 2.5 PvP matches in the time it takes to finish that Strike
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>>183130831
What, where from?
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>exo characters make up more than 80% of my rolls
wtf
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Biggest issue with the beta so far?

Biggest relief?

For me I'm really not liking the reduced ability usage, it's really making things quite boring especially considering abilities are also weaker. I'm happy that HC damage falloff has been reduced a bit though.
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>>183130975
Strike duder.
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So can any Warlock bros confirm, how hard did they nerf Voidlock?
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>>183127743
>Nonstop Infinite Dodge Climax
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>>183131443
Splain
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>>183131380
We don't know. The healing perk tree is locked. We only have the damage one, and honestly, the charge up grenade is pretty cool and so is the Nova Bomb, but they're at complete odds with each other.
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>>183131380
Nova bomb is just a big grenade that explodes on a pebble
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>>183131380
>how hard did they nerf Voidlock?
Nova bomb is now twice the size, travels horizontaly, homes in on the largest group of enemies, tracks enemies (Even in an upward trajectory) and on detonation releases several smaller novas that also track. Axiom bolt now releases as many bolts as there are enemies in its radius when it detonates rather than just two, and you can overcharge any grenade to boost its effect power and radius. Blink has vanilla range and speed, just TTK cooldown.

And that's just one fucking cluster.
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redpill me on thorn, is it usable?
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>>183129540
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>>183131935
not really
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>>183131605
What's scatter like, and is charged axion bolt as good as year one voidfang axion with bloom?
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>>183131573
it sounds awesome
t. xbone
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>>183126415
Is there a armor list?
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I'm in Hell. Do the shaders make any more sense now?
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>>183132120
It has less range and damage uncharged, but it spawns a seeker for every enemy in range. It's alright.
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>>183132463
Everything has shaders
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>>183132120
>What's scatter like?
Basically like nothing manacles before the nerf, when charged just like axiom it gets bigger, faster, and does more damage.

> and is charged axion bolt as good as year one voidfang axion with bloom
I just told you it spawns as many orbs as there are enemies in its AOE when it goes off, never mind fucking 3, I've seen it fire off five bolts, and that's without being charged. When you charge the bolts are bigger, faster, and do more damage.

Its like they overcompensated for the fact its the only class that's not a roaming super by just giving it all the exotic effects from D1.
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>>183124736
i'd be fine with that
i think i'm the only active fuck in PT aside from you anyway
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>>183129650
>>183128779
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>>183132525
Nice. Sounds way more fun than eating grenades for health. Almost makes me want to change my mind about saving warlock for launch.
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How many more hours till the beta drops for xboner
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test
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>>183132471
>>183132525
That sounds cool and all but I'm sad that Energy Drain looks like it's donezo now.
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>>183132770
14ish? 10 am pst
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>you cant feather ADS to keep your radar up
i mean, thats fair i guess

>>183132717
>comparing me and don
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>Arcstrider melee is a punch

Why am I punching things on a Hunter this is retarded, if I wanted to spam punch I would play Titan
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>>183132840
Oh, shit, I completely confused shatter with Axion. Let me correct myself.

It's like Axion bolts with void manacles. You won't get kills with it as frequently though, unless you charge it.
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>>183133161
Think you had it right the first time. Axions never benefited from manacles.
Scatter did.
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>>183133062
THEY DID WHAT
HUNTERS USE KNIVES, 0/12 FIX UR SHIT BUNGO
but seriously that's fucking stupid
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ok PvP is too ez
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>try to post dank webms
>Only get constant connection errors
Fix your shit Hiro I know its not a god damn connection error
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>>183133307
Yeah, I meant to say scatter grenades. I should go sleep.
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do titans even have a 3rd shader? I've only seen xenosilver and hakke history so far on their side, then agagin I only sawy bumblebee 3 tomes and alessa once
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>>183133710
>do titans even have a 3rd shader?
What?
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>>183127632
Worst part about it right now is grenades seem to do very little damage. But I've only been playing hunter so it might be different for the other classes.

Other than that it's pretty great, aim assist doesn't feel quite as aimbot-esque. Sounds are all great, and the weapons feel real nice. Looking forward to the game.
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>>183133062
this is the third time you've posted about arcrutch, shittiol
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>tfw still love hand cannons but they just don't feel right still
head hit detection is weird
is sunshot worth it over better devils
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>>183133964
the ships, so far hunters have 3 ships 3 shaders, titans have 3 ships 2 shaders(that I've seen) and lock again from what I've seen only have 2 ships 1 shader

>>183134093
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>>183134093
Sunshot isn't more powerful per hit, it still takes 2 headshots/3-4 bodyshots to kill a random mook, but the on-death explosion is MUCH better, it can take out several enemies at once and even daisy chain together explosions
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>>183134125
whoops got cut off by the auto,

>>183134093
but no sunshot is pretty bad in pvp
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>>183134125
Oh in beta, dunno, but ships are not class-exclusive in final version and there are 14 mod slots so its safe to assume there are quite a few ship shaders.
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Anyone have a spare beta key? All my friends want me to play but I don't want to preorder just yet.
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>>183134280
>>183134227
i was looking for pvp specifically. that's a shame though
i noticed when i was using it most other people start off the match with like pulse or scout then as i start mopping up they start switching to it
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>>183134305
l1ck-myy-4ss
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>>183134347
and by it i mean better devils
hate the recoil pattern on it though, also that reload
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>>183134368
Thanks senpai
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>>183134305
nip account
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>>183134347
In PvP I typically roll with a primary SMG for general CQC and Sunshot for slightly longer range damage dealing, but it really isn't reliable, when the enemy gets close I just switch to SMG. In PvP it usually took me 4-5 shots, sometimes 6 if I hit the wrong place just to kill one person and then you have nothing for the next guy who runs up on you.
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>rolling 3 classes to get perfect arrangement of races and genders
>genuinely finding it hard to tell the difference between male and female hunters
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All maps are as small as timekeeper now, it seems. Sure, it fits the new 4x4 engagements, but it still feels tiny.
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>>183133062
Pretty sure it is and arc kerambit.
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Tarnished Copper is so sexy
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the icon is a fist though, not a knife
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since you can't even skeet / warlock skeet and pull off sick jumpshots, why are sidearm still in
SMGs pwn in that range now
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>>183134532
>tfw want all exos
>tfw exo warlock and titan
>tfw human male hunter
disgusting
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>>183134414
Better devils puts fools down, that's why.

also I enjoy the play on words.
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Highest K/D in cru-cru so far?
got 3.8 last match but that's probably shit
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>>183121479
How are you guys liking it the beta?

PC fag waiting until august.
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>>183134886
10.0 But it was shitters and I had a full team of friends.
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>>183134532
honestly I loved the female Hunters' armored bra look until I made one myself, then it felt a little trashy
miles ahead of the fantasy approach to an armored bra, no skin and no cleavage, and I did get used to it after a while, but it stood out from the other classes' females too
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>>183134886
it's kda now but my best match I finished 10,0
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>>183134953
As a PC and PS4 player, this is going to be great on PC. I'm seriously worried about recoil on PC though.
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>>183134886
14.0
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>>183134886
16
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>>183135754
is there mark of the unbroken?
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>>183135798
Don't know. I went 16-1. Died at 10. There is a 10 streak one
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>>183134093
both handcanons are shit. you want MINUET-42.
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>>183135894
Minuet is garbage, Devil is the best.

Seriously though, you need to make 4 shots with Minuet to do the same amount of damage you do with Devil.
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God everything seems slowed down and watered down. The guns are just, blah. Everything is annoying to kill even vex enemies that should die in like 2 seconds. Supers take forever to go up and most are weak as shit. It's sad firing 6 golden gun shots into a crowd of enemies and two die. Shields seem longer to charge. I feel like they artificially slowed shit down so you can't curbstomp content and power level which sucks. I did that strike 2 times and I never want to see it again and this comes from a man who has run the dust palace maybe 250 times. Bungie made this shit watered down but what do you expect from a community that sucks their dicks constantly and tries to shit down criticism?
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>>183125432
>Bring back Peter Dinklage!
I would love a mission where you meet a evil ghost from another time pulled by the Vex and it's voiced by him all mad and feeling betrayed by you. Man that would be awesome.
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>>183135798
it's called "undefeated" now
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>>183136054
Go play Warframe if you want to do fast repetitions ad nauseam.
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>>183136054
Dude how many times you gonna cry about this shit? If you don't like it then quit you moronic fuck, nobody gave a shit the last ten times you cried about it, why the fuck would we give a fuck now?
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>>183136054
get gud
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>>183134953
I liked it but I was hoping there would be a patrol area and a few more story missions like first game's beta.
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>>183136293
>but I was hoping there would be a patrol area and a few more story missions like first game's beta.
But they literally said more than a month ago what's going to be in it, why can't you retards believe simple information?
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>>183136293
I dunno, I like the beta for the vertical slice that it is. The beta's pretty much a server stress test for how different services interact with each other anyway. The release date is close enough anyway that we'll be getting those patrol zones within a month and a half
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>>183136054
>Everything is annoying to kill even vex enemies that should die in like 2 seconds.
Taking the bait but did it occur to you that you're no longer 400 light and tanking low tier enemies? I don't know the "power" level cap on the strike, but I'd assume we're pretty matched up to them
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>>183136498
200 vs 200 we are doing "even" damage and not overpowered, it's like going back to vog before you hit 30
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>>183136498
Being 400 light means literally nothing
Being 1000 levels over the enemy means literally nothing
You can be light level 100000 for all I fucking care. You will do and take the same damage against these enemies as every other 200 light level scrublord.
You are a fucking retard to think light level has ANYTHING to do with enemy damage or difficulty in this fucking game
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>>183136201
I just want it to be like the first game not artificially difficult to stretch the content longer.

>>183136235
First time I ever complained about the beta senpai

>>183136280
I don't die everything just takes fucking longer it sucks.

>>183136498
What does light matter when content caps your light level anyway? if you aren't thunder crushing them now at max base level like you do in the first game I doubt you will later on.

Ultimately I feel this game will do everything in its power to make sure you never feel powerful and everyone is the same more or less and that sucks ass. I'm still getting D2 but I am not optimistic. I also am going to watch in game purchases like a hawk I feel you can gauge what their real plan is depending on what they end up selling you. I don't like how nightfalls require "keys" now that screams in game purchase to me hope I am wrong.
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>>183136484
Because I don't trust nu-neo-bungie
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>>183136738
Yeah. The moment everyone hit level 30 VoG became a cakewalk. Level 29 VoG was the best, elitism aside.
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>>183136789
Actually that's subjectively wrong.

>>183136864
Cry more.

>>183136865
Sounds like you've got the case of being a fucking retard.
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>>183136864
raptor pro-tip: shoot enemies in their critical hit zones. a yellow number will pop up if you do it correctly
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>>183136948
at some point you kind of end up similar to very intense blizzard fans which viciously defend any decision by blizzard to do anything
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>>183124679
Because faggots in D1 sniped easier when they held ADS, then quickly release ADS so they update radar
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>>183137082
Whatever you gotta tell yourself. Keep crying to, its cute.
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>>183136948
How am I crying? This is why these games get shittier fuckheads like you who get triggered by criticism.

>>183137027
Yea i'm aware. Still slower than D1.
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>>183136948
It's objectively correct, so go fuck yourself
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do you think there's a faint chance that i could get together an oryx PS4 run after the D2 beta ends

it's literally the last big thing i have left to do in D1 and I just never bothered, it's going to bug me if I never kill him
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>>183136948
>Actually that's subjectively wrong.
except I do the same amount of damage at level 40 and 400 light in 30 VoG as I did back when in HoW when I was level 34. Damage stops scaling with level after a certain amount, stop being retarded.
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>>183136054
see you in September!
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>>183137220
>It's objectively correct, so go fuck yourself

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3p52f3/light_levels_stats_and_how_they_affect_damage_in/
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>have access to the beta
>procrastinating watching youtubes instead
help
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>tfw no FAILSAFE gf
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>>183137334
>after a certain amount

Which means he's subjectively wrong, because he said

>>183136789
>You will do and take the same damage against these enemies as every other 200 light level scrublord.
>You are a fucking retard to think light level has ANYTHING to do with enemy damage or difficulty in this fucking game

Which is subjectively wrong, being certain level over does give advantage, it doesn't scale infinitely, but it does scale.
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>>183137440
i literally said I would buy it still in my next post but if this game becomes casual as shit and slow as shit i'm done with this series.
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The gameplay is still fun and the weapons seem strong right now but man did they do a number on abilities, supers, and any weapon that is not a primary. Grenade cooldown is like 30 seconds and you wont charge your super until over halfway through a match. Special ammo is scarce as fuck.

Now pvp is pretty much a primary weapon battle so all those scrubs who whined about the "chaos" of old pvp abilities are still going to whine because now they will get shat on in primary wep duels. At least grenades are pretty stong, but RIP to melee.

Pvp and gunplay in general is feeling kinda stunted by these cooldowns its just a primary fest with an occaisonal grenade, all the wacky shit is on cooldown. I dont know if Int dis str is coming back but hopefully something down that area does or they drop cooldowns a smidge.

I feel bad for hunters their special ability is to trip over every thirty seconds man damn.
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>>183137502
What do you know. All this for when you are B E L O W the light level of the enemies.
Guess fucking what
All the enemies are LL 200
Guess what LL you are
200
So what does that all mean?
That I'm right and you're a fucking retard

>>183137620
No. It doesn't. It never has in Destiny 1 and it won't in Destiny 2
I don't care if you think I'm subjectively wrong. Because I'm OBJECTIVELY right
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>>183136789
it does matter because A) enemies light level equivalents range all the way up to 400 and B) enemy levels range all the way up to 42
so you'll always be below a 400 light enemy unless you're at the very top at 400 light yourself, and you'll always be below a level 42 enemy no matter what
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>>183137502
that's about enemies that are HIGHER LEVELED you stupid bitch
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>>183137693
>I'm wrong but I don't have the balls to admit it so I'll just post a dozen three word lines.

Okay.
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>>183137534
you're not missing out on anything
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>>183137640
It's shit but believe it or not Titanfall 2 had similiar issues in their beta and changed everything the fans complained about on release so you hope that is the case here.
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>>183137534
beta is literally just to get familiar with combat. you will learn nothing else
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>>183137821
>>183137693
It literally did tho?????

I get you're salty you don't get to play until August, but how about you fuck off?
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>>183137595
failsafe has like 3 personalities be carefiul anon
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>>183137941
She has pessimist one, a "kill-em-all" one, and a downright rude one too. Fucking kill me if she talks to us all over nessus
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>D2 beta is just destiny with some subtle changes that truly don't even change anything, just some numbers tweaked around

BRAVO
U
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G
O
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>>183137925
>that's about enemies that are higher leveled
>>It literally did tho???

holy shit you're stupid
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>>183138128
See >>183137440
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pvp tier list

top: scathelocke, both pulses, better devils
mid: hi-rof ar
shit: everything else
do not use: scouts

power:
top: shotgun, fusion (non linear)
shit: everything else

I'm really sad the high impact scout is shit, it takes like 5 shots to down someone with a 10 round mag
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>>183138191
You aren't saying anything earth shattering. Sure those who played D1 for a long time will buy D2 criticisms and all. However if it ends up being shit compared to the first no one will stay for D3. Maybe Bungie doesn't give a fuck and is looking for the big pay day now if so good on them i guess.
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>>183138128
*numbers pulled back
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I'M GOING TO FUCK FAILSAFE AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME
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I'M GOING TO PLAY DESTINY 2!
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Why Cayde-6 has such a big parcel?
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>>183138505
Do Not Fuck The Failsafe
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>>183137860
Hope so, this feels like a slower lackluster version of launch D1. All they have to do is tweak cooldowns a little.

Who am I kidding we a playing the launch build, if we kick up enough sand after launch we might see some changes. But they will probably be more concerned with nerfs. Its D1 all over again.
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2 and a half hours I see everything they offer. Game is boring as fuck. Going to cancel my preorder.
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>>183138650
>play beta
>"what is this a fucking beta?"
sasuga
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>le beta forms my opinion meme
do you people know the purpose of a beta?
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>>183138579
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>>183138721
If you don't like the core mechanics beta or not you will hate it later on.
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>>183137860
I think Respawn is more dedicated to their fanbase and delivering a quality product than Bungie though.
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>>183138505
And so it begins...
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PvP niggers ruined PvE
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>>183138608
>>183138963
SEX WITH FAILSAFE!
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>>183138849
I think respawn is more desperate to please while Bungie can just fold their arms and say "you'll like it."
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are raids still gonna be have six players or is it four now?
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>get given a girl guardian
she thicc!
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>>183139047
CYBER SEX IS THE ONLY SEX FOR FAILSAFE!
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>>183139118
still 6
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do not sexualize the AI
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>>183139047
I'M GOING TO SATURATE FAILSAFE'S SOCKETS WITH SO MANY HANDSHAKES UNTIL SHE FAILOVER!
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>>183137756
Level 42 was anywhere from LL 300 to 390 though.
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CUTE, TIGHT AND PINK FAILSAFEPUCCI
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>some guy messages me asking how to get female titan
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>>183139686
failsucc
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>>183139776
>in order to comply with Canadian law, d2 autodetects your gender so they don't get sued for misgendering players
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>play destiny for superhero power fantasy
>only 2-3 supers in a strike
>1 heavy drop
>10 melee/grenade uses
>maybe 1 super in pvp if you dominate the match

I know d1 pvp was a shit show but they did too much
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>>183138752
feedback
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PvP is slow garbage.
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>>183140091
see you in September you entitled piece of shit.
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>>183140217
T R I C K Y T O W E R S?

T R I A LS?
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>>183138752

>beta

Vast majority of betas for AAA titles that are just a month or two from release nowadays are demos/stress tests
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>>183139019
You fucking shit pve is always going to be doable unless youre a total shitter, pvp casuals aka pve shitters ruined the core gameplay.
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It's like the same game but slightly worse.
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I could swear Shaxx's gun is stolen from Vash the Stampede.
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>>183140606
>doable
Yeah, and sticking your hand in a pot of boiling water is also doable, doesn't mean it's fun.
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>>183140091
beta. everything is limited. you are playing with what bungie gives you.
>>183140217
you're slow garbage.
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>>183140971
God I can't stand toxic shitheads like you.
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>buy D2 for the beta because my friends won't stop jerking off about how good D1 was
>see this general

getting nervous about this pre-order
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>>183141171
Games gonna be good, its just beta has nothing to do in it.
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>tfw cabal were always my fave race
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>>183141171
Just play the beta till it ends and see what's it's like you can refund the order any time before the game comes out
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>>183141171
You should be nervous they took everything bad about destiny and made it slower.
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>>183141136
>Pointing out the PvE is less fun because grenades and melees have an over 80 second cooldown
>And supers take 450 seconds base
>Toxic
No, fucker, you're the toxic one. You're the one who thinks that the collateral damage PvP does to PvE is justified solely because PvE is still "doable".

PvE needs a PvE-only cooldown reduction. And you PvP fuckers need to stop being so goddamned entitled.
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>>183141136
THE REDDIT BUZZWORD xD
You sure showed him!
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>>183141605
Hi there!
You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!
Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bait to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>183141291
this.
everything is limited. we probably won't know everything until august when pc guys datamine it. for now. just enjoy it.
just stay away from the bad guys in these generals, like this one >>183141605
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Hey my dudes I haven't really followed Destiny in a while so I need to know, is the Sunbreaker coming back? The Titan with the fire hammer? Please don't tell me it's going to reappear in an expansion and Bungie is going to pretend like it's new content.
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>keep getting killed behind walls
>hit detection is shit

Aside from that gameplay is pretty solid. I wonder how the final game will play out. I hope it's not team shooting central.
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>>183141532
>3 years later and people still don't understand unified rules for PvE and PvP is part of the secret sauce
I think you need to stop being entitled
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>>183141808
no one knows. there's theories, but no legit answer. everyone is in the dark.
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>>183141291
Game is going to be amazing without fault. Anyone who fucking criticizes this game is a spoiled piece of fucking shit. Bungie doesn't owe us anything especially fucking entitled shitheads.
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>>183140606
everything is slowed down and stumped to accommodate for PvP changes
smaller inventory sizes, slower movement, longer cooldowns, weaker weapons

where did all that "separate balancing" go?
PvE feels padded and unenjoyable
like what >>183136864 said, it feels stretched to waste our time
could be something to do with the new weapon system

in D1 it was basically primary + dps + crowd/dps, but in D2 it's primary + primary + crowd/dps
I'm going to say that playing it out now, it's a shit system designed for PvP
only fix would be heavy dropping as frequently as special did even if it sound fucking stupid
they removed a dedicated dps slot
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>>183141808
It's not. They gave it to sunsingers as a sword instead of a hammer.

They're being cagey about the inclusion of a third subclass. If they are still in, sunbreaker will most likely be overhauled
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>>183141928
>False flagging this hard.
Fuck you.
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Does anybody remember how fast shit charged in the D1 beta?

Couldn't have been very fast, right?
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>>183142081
What if we got a whip instead? Then again that sounds more like a hunter. Spear sounds more like a titan weapon.
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>>183141837
>PvE specific damage boosts to weapons and abilities
>unified rules for PvE and PvE
No reason they can't have a global PvE buff that reduces cooldowns. It doesn't change fundamental gameplay, just how often you get to use the fun stuff. And it doesn't hurt PvP.

What Bungie wants is for the feel of the game to be the same. Gun stability, accuracy, range, etc... So that proficiency with guns or abilities in one mode carries over seamlessly into the other. A cooldown change doesn't affect this.
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>>183142113
>>False flagging
Fuck you you entitled piece of shit. Destiny is a perfect game. A fucking perfect game. How FUCKING dare you suggest there are any faults in this game. Toxic shitheads like you are everything wrong with games. There is literally nothing wrong with Destiny it's the greatest game ever made and if you say otherwise fuck you spoiled shit.
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>>183142316
Don't reply to me or my general ever again.
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>>183142242
Whip sounds too "out there". I could see void hunter being based around spear with a similar tether mechanic as shadowshot.
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I want to put my dick inside failsafe!
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>>183142563
So solar titan is what? More punches? Just Asura combined with Fist of the North Star propelling himself around with blasts of fire?
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>fusion rifles are power weapons now

WHAT THE FUCK CUNT
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>>183142853
They're also giving you power ammo right away in PvP.
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>>183142853
>WHAT THE FUCK CUNT
Destiny is going to be like fifa now changing shit yearly. Destiny 2k19 fusion rifles will be all full auto.
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>all this whining
see you in September niggas, you knew what you were getting into if you kept playing destiny for 3 years
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>>183124048
the same point as all their games since Halo 2
you trade off broad situational awareness for narrow awareness so that snipers and precision weapons in general aren't too OP
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>>183125381
pretty sure it's better to take B
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>>183143056
This. Anyone who dares says a fucking bad thing about Destiny deserves no less than death. How dare you fucking have any criticisms about this perfect game you entitled, spoiled, toxic piece of human fucking excrement. Destiny has the greatest and most welcoming community and anyone who says otherwise should be beheaded.
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>>183143176
>demented ape shitposting and wanting them (you)s
Ya got one, I guess
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>>183143330
>he's so triggered by the truth hes starting to delve into paranoia
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>>183140971
I mean doable as in beatable and potential for fun, but yeah now its D1 with 0 int dis str and a primary fest weapon wise. That is due to them slowing shit down because the casual "i only play pve pvp is a shitshow" players whined about abilities/specials weps and dropped the game after doing the pve shit. They are trying to rope them in and get them into crucible with these changes and it shows.
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Is it just me or does it feel like Destiny 2 just has the Trickle modifier permanently enabled? It's pretty awful.
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>>183143432
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>>183143456
I thought it was the MLG tryhards QQing about 1-shot kills from abilities. I mean, PvP shitters too, but I thought they listened more to the MLG tryhards.
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>>183143056
You might see me in september but shieet they better step it up if they want to compete in the long haul. New releases on the horizon are looking beefy, this isnt back when the ps4 was just getting off its training wheels.
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>>183143605
Anon I am just saying Destiny is a perfect game and anyone that criticizes it slightly is an entitled, spoiled, toxic person. My life is so empty that I personally get mad when people criticize Destiny even though I don't work for Bungie and there is no logical reason to get triggered when people find things they don't like.
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>>183143738
>releases on the horizon looking beefy
such as?
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>>183143595
Not just you, I'm currently going through all the classes and testing recharge for each ability.

https://youtu.be/n5YZFvqRUy4
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>helmets helmets helmets
all I get is helmets!
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>>183142242
>spear
Arcstrider already has that though. Maybe Sun titans will still get a hammer, but have it be a melee weapon plus some aoe like with the fire pools?
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>>183143717
Im sure it was a little bit of everyone bitching that turned the gameplay into what it is now. Personally I only hated when one exotic ruled like thorn or suros, but I just feel like they are trying to get everyone accustomed to pve and pvp so they can have everyone playing everything not just this mode or that mode. And the inevitable pvpve down the line
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>>183143595
gonna have to get better at your gun skills then nigga
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>>183144171
>down
We already had hammers. We need rocket punches.
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>played all classes
>played all modes
>played all guns
well, guess that's it for me. see you guys in september! i'm hoping we have an agreed clan to run with
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>>183143056
>PvP nerfs that affect PvE = make a game and weapon system around PvP first
>sup-par foundry specials / heavies with low inventories = make all the weapons sub-par with low inventories to reduce overall damage output to slow down
>"new" strikes with slow, unskippable checkpoint sequences = make tediously long strikes with checkpoint sequences
who the fuck predicted that?
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Anyone have screenshots of the crucible and strike armor?

Heard it's pretty meh
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>>183143959
monhun
even if it's casualized
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>>183144417
>rocket punches
They gave suncharge to strikers though.
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>>183144853
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PvP is better now tbqh. Getting Super'd five times in a row was fucking boring.
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>>183144931
And titan smash to hunters
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>>183145320
Lowering ability cooldowns by about 10 seconds or so would be nice, though

As it stands they seem a bit too long
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>>183144265
Yeah but if I wanted to play a game with just guns I'd play CoD
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>>183143993
>97 second cooldown on the fucking throwing knife

What a goddamn travesty. Abilities were what made Destiny fun, but the PvP tryhards have ruined another yet another game for the sake of their endless chase for "balance"
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>>183144171
>>183145623
someone's going to call me a weeaboo or something but I want a Hunter super where you throw a bunch of knives
the right trigger attack can be throwing several at once, maybe with homing abilities
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>>183146497
To be fair, it's the beta, and stuff like cooldowns are subject to change

I'll be salty if they sacrifice abilities on the altar of pvp balance though
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>>183143595
>>183143993
>>183146497
In other footage we have seen that armor can have perks which boost ability recharge speeds. In the Beta we have none of it, make a new character in Destiny 1 and see how everything feels with T0 Int/Dis/Str. That is effectively where we are right now.
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>>183146310
Earlier events did show off armor having ability cool down perks. So I'm just guessing that this build lacks them and that they are trying to get a baseline feedback.

But yeah. Cool downs are hella long. Especially for how some of the abilities got changed up.
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I got better devils from the inverted spire I thought it was only from crucible
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>>183146673
Except no, because Tier 0 is 60 second cooldown and the base for grenades and melees is like 90 seconds now.
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>>>/r9k/38470546

Why is JIro being posted there instead of here?
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>>183146791
>Especially for how some of the abilities got changed up.

No fucking kidding, half of these grenades and melees are so trash they aren't even worthy of a cooldown. Fusions can't even one shot a Legionary.
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>resident autist shitposter browses r9k

kek, that's just sad
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Been away all day, just got the chance to play. Am I out there in saying that PVP feels really dull and boring now? I'm glad that ability spam is gone, but it seems like the slow time to kills make like 95% of the engagements decided by team shots. Unless someone is committed to the fight with you, they can generally get around a corner, even with movement toned down.

I don't know, I get what they're trying to do and making the core gameplay loop revolve around gunfights is good, but it just plays really basic and vanilla now.
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>>183146673
I believe a Tier 0 Throwing knife had 70 seconds. Which while long, is still substantially shorter than 97 seconds.

>>183146591
Yeah, fuck not just scaling things for PvP. Just append a trickle-like modifier to all core PvP modes. The abilities in general seem to have been nerfed (reduced damage, blast radius, etc.) and then you never get to use them.

I'd be fine with either them still being really powerful and less frequent or readily available and more tactical decisions. But this has made it feel like a slog.
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>>183146673
>assuming they're going to be remotely powerful enough to compensate for these long cooldowns
>especially when we have multiple abilities
>And having to give up other perks, because presumably those aren't going to be the only perks available
No. I'm not going to not give feedback just because maybe some feature we can't test will fix it (it won't). It's fucked.

In the Destiny 1 beta, people assumed that the lack of story was because it was the first few missions, and it would pick up as the campaign progressed. But it didn't. The situation in the beta implies the situation in the release game.

Bungie wanted a beta test. This is the feedback: abilities have cooldowns that are way too fucking long in PvE, and weak to boot.

Well, I guess the class abilities are alright. Maybe dodge roll could be a little shorter.
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>>183146979
>>183147154
And a T5 melee in Destiny 1 is 25 seconds or less sometimes. So how about we wait and see what an actually fully developed build looks and feels ability recharge wise before complaining or writing off the game as ruined? Now if in the released game when fully speced out we still have matches where you can't even get a single meaningful, the game has a serious issue.
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>>183147071
You're on the same website
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>>183147032
Grenades are basically party poppers now. And their throwing arc feels really fucked up. Standard for a new game, but still feels bad.

And Shoulder Charge replaced Stormfist, so this path lost the regular charged melee, and uncharged melees are even shittier for damage now. The Sentinel's other perk set also has a similar sprint/charged melee and no plane charged melee. The least they could have done was make them either/or.
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>>183147165
Really stupid logic there, we have seen the armor perks in gameplay footage which boost ability recharge speed. This is a feature in the game that objectively exists, but is not present in the beta. It is not some etheric maybe, the perks do exist.
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>>183147237
>Bungie has said that they were moving to a primary gunfight game
>Beta has shitty ass cooldowns which support that
I'll hang onto my cynicism with how abilities are being handled. And I ain't never cried the game is ruined. Maybe the Beta. But that's only a few more days.
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>>183147403
The perks exist, but we don't know the magnitude of the effects. I find it highly unlikely that they'll apply a 64% cooldown reduction to grenades, a 74% reduction to explosive grenade, etc...

And on top of this, the abilities are weaker. Again for PvP. It feels like shit. It plays like shit.

You don't have any proof that those perks are going to be adequate. Given the strength of perks in D1, they won't be. Not even remotely.
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>>183147693
*74% reduction to explosive KNIFE
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Thank christ people are posting about this.
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>actually like the PVP
more drops for me then
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>>183147693
This. Not only are the abilities weak but they take forever to charge. They have literally sucked the fun out of Destiny.
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I mean, I'm enjoying the changes in PvP. Primary fights are my thing. But goddamn it hurts PvE. It hurts PvE hard. This is not okay.
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>>183147693
Fuck you, PVP feels the best it ever has. They should make the recharge speeds twice as fast in PVE though.
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>>183147994
Being able to super once per match, at the same time as everyone else, is not fun.
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>>183147994
>They should make the recharge speeds twice as fast in PVE though.
THAT'S WHAT I SAID!

Me:
>>183142284
>>183147948
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>>183148069
That particular moment is dumb, but overall PVP matches feel awesome. Grenades/Melees and the class abilities could charge slightly faster I guess, but the overall feel of the matches is great.

>>183148160
>Again for PvP. It feels like shit. It plays like shit.
Saw a coma instead of a period here, thought you were saying these changes made PVP shit. Nevermind.
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>>183148160
They're not gonna do that because consistent gameplay mechanics across game modes is a core pillar of Destiny. They should just bring everything back to D1 levels, at maybe Tier 3.
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>>183148339
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>>183148410
What if you max out at around T3 levels with the armor perks?
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>>183148410
>because consistent gameplay mechanics across game modes is a core pillar of Destiny
>guns and abilities do more damage against PvE opponents

"What Bungie wants is for the feel of the game to be the same. Gun stability, accuracy, range, etc... So that proficiency with guns or abilities in one mode carries over seamlessly into the other. A cooldown change doesn't affect this."
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If I download the JPN demo how long can I keep playing? does it end when the open beta starts? (21st)
also, is it playable? are there english stuff on it or is it full jap shit?
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>>183147782
yes
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>>183148748
it's early access so you get to play 14 hours ago, it's in english and the only difference is circle and cross are swapped in menus
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>>183147782
>Sheva's avatar
Cute AF. How cute can I make an Awoken look? Should she be my Sentinel or Voidwalker?
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>>183148748
YCN-7JJ-Y3P
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titan is full of fucking helium with this floating jump
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>>183148996
I don't get it. What does that autist want?
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So what happened to the Exo Stranger?
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>>183149146
In the release build of Destiny 2 you stay in the menu through loading screens.
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>>183149149
She was a means to an end, her purpose fulfilled the character will now be forgotten about and ignored. Never to be brought up or referenced again.
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https://twitter.com/thislukesmith/status/887430092011393024
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>>183149370
The drops are obviously just fucked bugged in the beta build. I've played the strike five times now and haven't seen a single heavy ammo pack drop once.
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>>183149370
who will determine what is acceptable?
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>>183149149
She was exited effectively when she gave us a sweet gun and disintegrated. They really wrapped up her arc, even though she never had time to explain why she didn't have time to explain.
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>>183149532

That makes no sense. So she was some kind of time anomaly?

The fuck was the point of introducing something so interesting then fucking off with it
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>>183149010
thanks anon so does it end on the 21st when the open beta starts? or can I keep playing?
>>183149059
code got redeemed already but thanks
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why are you still here? game's been a steamer since ttk.
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I'm actually having fun. Notably more than I had with the last months of Destiny 1.
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>>183149597
I was sarcastically shitposting with Luke Smith's bullshit from this interview:
http://www.pcgamer.com/destiny-2s-luke-smith-on-pc-features-pvp-new-subclasses-and-more/2/

Most of the lorefags rioted upon reading that, because as you pointed up, she was an interesting lore hook that never delivered. And Luke Smith's feeling that never explaining what was going on, what her motivations are, what her backstory is, etc... is "effectively exited" and "wrapped up" is an offense to anyone who's ever read a novel.
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>>183149726
should be fine till the end of the beta
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>>183140776
the sunshot?
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>>183149532
>>183149597
The Exo Stranger as a character was introduced for one purpose, they had less than 6 months to recycle the assets they had into the new story missions and needed a quick and dirty way to get the players from the Moon to Venus. What they did was recycle the first Exo character model that was made originally made for testing purposes, and use her as a way to push the story forward. No thought beyond that was put into it, they didn't even have actually writers working on Destiny's vanilla story missions. It was all level designers chaining bullshit together and writing up a narrative of some kind after the fact.
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>>183149821
thanks a bunch
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I feel a lot less powerful as a Guardian in d2 compared to d1. Supers take ages to get, you're lucky to get 2 in a 20+ minute strike. MAYBE 1 super in pvp. No heavy ammo drop (???), your abilities are on cooldown forever.

wtf this is not fun
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>>183149875
weaker light :0)
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>>183149875
like other anon said, we dont have any exotic armor, or armor mods for cooldowns, so once we are able to get to full autist min max power, hopefully cooldowns will be down by half etc
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anyone compared beta agility with D1 agility yet?
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>>183149847
>>183149795

This is the most retarded shit I've ever read and I can't believe I got invested in the lore at all. I haven't played in years and I'm mad

It's like

How the fuck do you drop the ball that fucking hard. A literal time traveler shows up, pushes you through content, then fucks off? I mean in a way I guess that kind of makes sense from the Traveler's perspective; you don't wanna explain too much shit to the people you're helping.

But from a narrative/entertainment POV it's bullshit
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>>183150061
There were some cool theories that tied the Stranger to Maya Sundaresh, the Ishtar Collective, and the Future War Cult

Unfortunately we'll never know if there was any merit to the theories
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>>183150061
>>183149795
I don't know a single actual lorefag who actually got invested in the Exo Stranger, it was so blatantly obvious that there wasn't actually anything there. Compared to the rest of the lore which actually did have substance behind it. Pretending she never existed is the right move, I'm sure Bungie wants to forget everything that originated from that period of development as much as anyone else.
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>>183150061
Neal Stephenson books have better endings than the Exo Stranger's story arc.
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So I got into the destiny 2 beta. I'm not sure how because I didn't sign up for it at all, nor pre-order the game, can someone explain to me why this happened?
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>>183150184

I don't even really care about her, it's just the fact that it's such a seemingly major plot thread dropped with no payoff at all that's got me pissed
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any chance of Mara Sov coming back? never got to taste the queen of the reef pucci

I also want to cuck her brother
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>>183150179
>>183150184
I hold out hope that Luke Smith was just giving his personal opinion and not actually indicating Bungie's story department's overall decision. The Exo Stranger may show up in the Osiris expansion (because they both involve the Vex), and/or in the Rasputin expansion (since Rasputin has a chat with her, and she may have been the one to wake him up).
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>>183150237
>Seemingly
Key word, seemingly. In reality there was nothing there, because her only reason for existing was to point the player character to Venus and then the Black Garden. She was so unimportant to the overall franchise that they didn't even make a character model for her, just recycled an old test model.
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>boy, almost nobody really spec'd into STR to reduce their melee cooldown
>better increase the base CD by 50% :^)
You already removed INT/DIS/STR, there was no need to lengthen the base cooldowns as well you absolute retards.
>but there's armor that reduces CDs
Which introduces another problem unless you want literally everybody looking literally the exact same due to no random rolls. Is that something that anybody's going to mention here? The fact that you can't have the stats you want and the look you want now?

Still buying day 1, people are already getting salty over Retrofuturist because they're used to the current shotties. Can't wait to see what the higher impact/range ones can do.
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>>183150347
Yes. Her voice actor leaked that she had lines in Destiny 2, and there's a couple grimoire cards from Uldren's point of view that indicate she's alive (he seems to have a special Awoken psychic connection to his sister).
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>>183150347
Probably, some time before RoI came out Bungie did a twitch stream where they brought in voice actors to play the game. Her voice actor accidentally let slip that she had recorded more dialog as the Queen for a future release.
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>>183150347
We haven't seen the last of the Reef, nor it's Queen

Also for what it's worth her voice actor is apparently involved with Destiny 2 to some capacity

>tfw we'll never get that blue pucci
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>>183150476
Weapons have set rolls, they never said armor does too.
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>>183150476
in some previous thread I already ranted about fixed armors being the dumbest shit
I stopped because they're trying to figure out something to do with all your dupes
I think they're still trying to figure it out

>>183150628
>"There aren't random rolls on weapons anymore. Better Devils is a Crucible hand cannon [in Destiny 2], and what it has on it is what it has on it. Period," Luke Smith, the sequel's director, said.
>The lineup of stats and perks for every weapon and every piece of armor in Destiny 2 is now hand-crafted. That also means Bungie's sandbox team — which generally takes the lead on weapon balance changes — has a lot more flexibility when it's time to change things around.
>"You can look at all the hand cannons now [for example] and track the data for everything," Smith said.
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>>183150628
Yes they did. It's just that everyone obsessed about the weapons and not the armor.

>The lineup of stats and perks for every weapon and every piece of armor in Destiny 2 is now hand-crafted.
>every piece of armor
http://mashable.com/2017/06/29/destiny-2-loot-grind/#m_iGxHMaYgqR
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>>183150487
>>183150532
>>183150557
now that is some good news
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>>183150363
Please tell me what possible good would come from dredging the character back up? Just make a new character without the baggage she has.
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>>183150920
Closure.

In what way is her baggage a bad thing?
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>>183150730
I think the only thing we can see change from gun-to-gun is the Intrinsic perk. Other than that, they'll always have the other perk rolls set in stone.

Speaking of guns - what's everybody's Crucible loadout? I'm seeing a lot of Nightshade pulse rifles already.
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>>183151139
She is a direct tie to the absolute worst story in a AAA release in at least a decade, a constant reminder of the state Destiny 1 launched in. That is some pretty heavy baggage, even if they reintroduced her in a Destiny 2 expansion and she was great it in that baggage would always be there.
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>>183150730
The dupes can be made relevant so as long as the mods you can attach to weapons (and armor?) are permanently affixed every time you commit a mod. That way, you will still want duplicates to put different or better mods on.

Also there is a special perk that is still randomly rolled for any piece of equipment. It is the leftmost one and the one that has descriptive text in the card, if I'm not mistaken. I'm not in the Beta so I am going off Jewtuber information here.
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>>183151310
So are all 4 enemy factions, the speaker, etc... Fixing her story by finally writing it would do far more to mollify Y1 players than leaving it be would. The only people who would care about her so-called baggage are Y1 players, and we'll never forget the travesty that was Y1 anyways.
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>>183151315
Dupes don't currently roll anything different. That may be what they go for, but it's not what they've done for the beta and I haven't heard anything from official sources that it's what they're going to do.
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>>183151315
>the mods you can attach to weapons (and armor?) are permanently affixed every time you commit a mod. That way, you will still want duplicates to put different or better mods on.
Oh please lord no, not with my luck. Any game that has "when attaching this upgrade, it is permanently fused with the weapon" I will ALWAYS end up with

>Well I don't think I could possibly get a better <weapon/armour> than this, so I'll put this <super rare upgrade> on it
>Attach
>Next enemy drops the exact same weapon, but better
>Hang myself
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>>183151214
Has a verified Bungie source said that the Intrinsic perks are flexible? I understand that they aren't in the Beta, but them being varied sounds like it goes against the "hand-crafted" stuff they keep talking about.

Maybe if the end game has the Intrinsic perk as a slotted thing instead, but it just seems off base.
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>>183151494
>having to level up vault of glass gear by killing mobs for literal hours just to finish the raid week 1
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>>183151494
>So are all 4 enemy factions
Only in the sense that they were there, none of them actually played a role in the story beyond being introduced. Just like the Vanguard mentors and tower vendors.
>the speaker
Who also got the axe, though I'm going to assume that is more due to his voice actor being pretty expensive.
>Fixing her story by finally writing it would do far more to mollify Y1 players than leaving it be would.
Any Y1 players who are still invested in the franchise are more or less locked in for the ride, we don't need to be catered do in that sense. Any Y1 players who left at any point would be better served by not dredging up reminders of why they left in the first place. Any effort made attempting at resurrecting the Exo Stranger would be better spent making a new character instead.
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Anyone manage to kill all the Storm Minotaurs on the strike before they disappear?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13474983
What is the consensus so far?
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>>183151886
It is far too situational to ever be relevant, so never?
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>>183151859
>Any effort made attempting at resurrecting the Exo Stranger would be better spent making a new character instead.
I disagree. Properly resolving the Exo Stranger's story would show that Bungie is committed to making their story work, rather than superhero comic retcon bullshit. That is very important to dedicated lorefags. There's a reason Luke said "but she always come up", and it's that people want a satisfying conclusion. You may not care, but clearly a lot of people do.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13474994

since today is the first day, what do you think? answer honestly.
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>>183151886
Doubtful. Pretty sure we're still gonna see Scout, Pulse and HC in the Crucible all the time. Being able to pull the trigger once and do 1/4 or 1/3 of an enemy's health is better than holding the trigger to land 4-5 shots to do the same amount of damage. The simple factor of "my enemy is not a brick wall that doesn't move" means shots can miss, causing less damage overall.

That said, I like running Scout/SMG simply because an SMG lets me tackle that weird range that's too far for melee, but too close to really zoom in and go for a kill, like when you and a guy jump right passed eachother or pass over and under, being able to quickly finish off a target in that range is nice.
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>>183151580
Odd. Nothing from official sources? Well we'll have to see if they say anything about it later or we find out on launch. Wonder where do guys like Kackis got their info about the intrinsic perk being random.

>>183151763
I have the opposite problem.

>maybe I will find a better mod than this, I should wait and see before wasting a weapon on this mod
>so I wait
>and I wait
>and I wait

Of course they could go with a semi-commitment model like other games, where fusing a mod to a weapon expends the mod item but it is possible to overwrite the existing mod with another. In that case your dupes are there to support different mod setups for different jobs and you can still upgrade them over time.
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So how does character creation work? From what I'm seeing it seems like you don't get to choose and are assigned a pre made character. Is this true? And if so what are their plans for retail launch?
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>>183152442
Retail launch will have a character creator, probably similar to the Destiny 1 creator

I see no reason they'd ship the game without one
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>>183147782
>ree why do i have to do things other than use my super
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>>183152442
Just for the beta, which is lazy as fuck since D1 alpha had it.
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>>183152442
Creator is in launch. At the moment the only thing that changes is your gender, just go in and out of the "choose your class" screen until the class you want is the gender you want.

Wish I'd known this before getting a full Crucible set on a femtitan.
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>>183152258
The problem is that there is nothing there to resolve, Luke Smith was being his usual foot-in-mouth unhinged self when he covered this topic but he wasn't wrong. The Exo Stranger's role in the original story was resolved. She showed up to get the player character to fuck up the Vex in the Black Garden, then she left because she got exactly what she wanted. This isn't a retcon, this is just a bad plotline.

So trying to bring the Exo Stranger back would just result in all the work of creating a brand new character, with all the baggage of having to tie that bad plotline into the current narrative.
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>>183152690
>The Exo Stranger's role in the original story was resolved.
No. Her Doylist role was resolved. Her Watsonian role was not. Lorefags care about Watsonian perspectives. That's why people keep asking.
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>>183152690
This. Especially with a character than can seemingly time-travel. Time travel is almost always a big raging, throbbing problem in any story - it opens up a lot of questions that you have to account for, meaning they'd need to devote all sorts of time to lore for time travel rules just to un-break the Stranger.

>Why didn't she go back and do X
>Why didn't a 2nd version of her appear after the 1st left and explain some things
>How did she not have time to explain if she is a literal time traveller
>Could she not see the Red Legion coming and warn us about it

etc. etc.

Better to just forget she ever existed and say "With the help of various allies, The Guardian found the Black Garden and defeated the Heart of Darkness within."
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>nerf everything to the ground
>call it a sequel
>charge 60-100
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>>183152815
We already have the Vex, time-travel complexities are not an excuse.
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>>183152906
Vex time travel is fine, because it clearly has rules/limitations that have prevented the Vex from completely dominating the entire universe. This fact is commented on in the lore. The Vex are also an enemy, so them having this power isn't a huge problem. An ally having time travel powers though fucks things up massively. Why didn't the Stranger just go back in time and warn everyone about the collapse? Why doesn't she snap 1000 copies of the greatest Guardians of all time and steamroll everything? Allies having access to time travel is narrative hell, never do it.
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This power weapon thing is the worst design decision I've seen. All it had accomplished is making this game feel like destiny 1 but without heavy weapons. Pve is fucking awful and pvp feels so dull. It just feels like a generic cod wannabe since they have severely castrated the things that make this shit stand out on its own. Take out the space magic, speed, cool weapons and you get a generic shooter like any other.
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Why have they fucked PvE balancing for PvP?
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>Pulse Rifle meta
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>all this whining will not compare to what will be unleashed when the PC beta releases
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>>183153080
Presumably because she suffers the same limitations the Vex have. Probably because her time-travel tech is scavenged off the Vex.

As shown with the Restorative Mind, pulling something from elsewhere in time is not easy.

She can't just go stop the Collapse for the same reason the Vex can't just go back to Earth's distant past and kill off humanity before we become a threat. ESPECIALLY if time-travel is stable-time-loop ontology.
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Hey they actually made a new reloading animation for the rocket launcher
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>>183153352
i just wanna know who she was talking to
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>>183153183
PVE ammo drops are clearly bugged, and with things as they are now in PVP I see power ammo in play far more often than it is currently in Destiny 1. You can get three or four power ammo drops in a single control match, compared to one heavy drop in D1. This change also allows Snipers, Shotguns, and Fusions to exist in a non-neutered state. The fusion rifle in the beta is fucking amazing, its like fusions were back in their prime and but a step further.
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>>183149726
gib psn and I'll dm u
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>>183153352
>She can't just go stop the Collapse for the same reason the Vex can't just go back to Earth's distant past and kill off humanity before we become a threat.
The Vex don't do this because they don't want to, not because they aren't able. It is implied that if they wanted humanity extinct, we already would be.
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>>183153236
Because they're retarded and refuse to balance separately because "consistency is really important to us". At least now if a certain weapon is over/underpowered they can just balance that one weapon instead of making sweeping, archetype-wide changes that fuck shit up even more.
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>>183153495
>vex couldnt defeat oryx
>we did
seems they're keeping us around to kill off shit for them
vex to me are the true threat
time magic beats all other types of magic
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>>183150487
>he seems to have a special Awoken psychic connection to his sister
l-lewd
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>>183153426
It still doesn't fix the problem that you will still stick a bunch of cool weapons I the same slot while having two stupid primaries. It is still destiny without heavy weapons and nobody in their sane mind is gonna use shit like a fucking shotgun instead of other stronger stuff. Notice I never mentioned ammo being a problem.
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>>183153495
You don't know that, because you don't know the limitations of Vex time travel. And, of course, there's another possibility: they did try, and we went back after them and kicked their asses.

It's also possible that Traveler exerts some kind of temporal anchor on our history because of its Light powers.
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>>183153640
Nope, Vex time magic can't deal with our Space Magic. Its why we kicked their asses in the Vault, and why Oryx kicked theirs twice over.
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>>183153750
Given that light is superordinate to the natural laws of the universe and paracausaul that's entirely likely

Remember, Guardians make their own fate
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>>183153710
Old Specials are all much more powerful than D1 and have more ammo than the Launchers, they're absolutely usable.
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So like PvP is now NOT SHIT, just use Pulse Rifles (omolon) because they are universal and broken at any range.
Cool downs are garbage and need to be adjusted but that's probably the only serious problem t b h
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>>183153845
You will also rot to death in your chair while waiting for them to load up.
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no honkeys welcome in destiny 2, this game is black man land now
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>>183153831
vex just seem to be really uncreative to me
just go back and kill oryx's grandad dude
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>>183153863
remove floaty jump
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>>183153710
You are lacking perspective then, the former special weapons are great choices. They are much, much more powerful than their equivalents in Destiny 1. They also get a great deal more ammo than rocket/grenade launchers do. Running a fusion rifle I could easily get power ammo, get six kills with it, and then secure power ammo all over again. The shotgun is basically an old shotpackage felwinter's lie on steroids, I'm sure a good shotgunner could do just as well with it.
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>>183153956
Mobility in general is fucking trash incarnate and the stat doesn't even seem to do shit even at the titans current max (6).
Also blink is insane now because the floaty jumps make the warlocks travel extremely far.
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>>183153710
>nobody in their sane mind is gonna use shit like a fucking shotgun instead of other stronger stuff
>he hasn't been using and abusing the Retrofuturist
This thing's disgusting and it's the low impact/range and high capacity/ROF archetype.
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>>183153937
Probably wouldn't work. They tried to wipe Praedyth from history and it only semi-worked. Oryx likely wouldn't even be phased.
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>>183152690
I think people most want to know what was she and/or what faction she was a part of. An exo equipped like a Guardian but isn't one? We want to know that faction or what unique creature she was if there was no one else.
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>>183154045
The shotgun is good and all but the Main Ingredient fusion is absolutely insane. It's basically an unerfed praetorian foil in year 1 but has way higher aim assist.
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>>183154110
And that was in the Vault of Glass.

>>183154126
She's also from a timeline where there were no Hive, but the Vex had overrun everything. And Rasputin wanted to learn time-travel from her.
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Anyone got a spare beta code?
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>Vex... cum. Yes, Vex cum.
Bit lowbrow there Bungie.
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>>183154041
Mobility is great for glitching t. IcantbelieveIwasted3hoursononeglitch
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>>183154353
go buy yourself pre-order pack, you'll get some stuff and discount equal to it's cost when you'll buy D2
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Rip hunters
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>>183154475
Rip goldenlazergun shit sucks balls now. Dawn blade is surprisingly legit.
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>they've ruined how PvP feels to make it more open to esports
for what purpose?
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>>183154560
t. snipershitter
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>>183154475
why?
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>>183154560
To make it more open to esports.
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>>183154560
People complained about getting 1HKO every 25s so they made stuff take ~90s and unable to kill on its own. On the other hand, power weapons feel great.
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>>183154606
3rd ability is bad compared the warlock and titan third ability.

Arc strider and golden gun are underwhelming
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>>183154460
How the FUCK am I suppose to do surreal trials and over world glitches with shitty mobility!
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>>183154748
idk, i'm pretty good with hunter right now, but warlocks really fuck me sometimes
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>>183154598
They've made abilities useless along with making everything slow
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>>183154748
Haven't played Hunter but if the roll still almost completely refills your 97s melee CD then fucking suck it up.
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>>183154110
Yeah the Vex couldn't even simulate Oryx
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why does the game feel like it has trickle on?
i'm constantly thinking that i'll have an ability only to find out its got another 15 seconds until i can use it
also they didn't even buff the abilities either some actually feel worse
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>>183155480
make sure you are using your cooldown reduction skills, like striker shouldercharge kills grant almost full grenade charge
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>>183155480
>Shoulder Charge now has a massive cooldown
>barely does more damage than a regular punch
why
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>tfw you glitch into the VoG door and nothing happens

Wtf bungo shipping unfinished games
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I'm really not feeling the PVE, weapons feel weak, ability cooldowns are so high you hardly get to use them, and power ammo hardly drops. It's just so dull. PVP is alright but incredibly slow, feels like a custom game with speed reduced by 35%.
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>>183156108
they've already confirmed ammo drops at higher rates in the full release
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So what was the point of getting rid of special weapons again? This new system feels poorly thought out.
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>>183156324
Did you play D1 PVP at literally any point in its life?
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>>183156108

That's because Bungie has once again shown the world they don't know how to balance for shit so they just nerf everything until all things become equally lackluster and thus "balanced".

While other games are making progress and you have stuff like battlefield 1 running with dedicated servers, 60 fps, 64 players and destructible scenarios, you have things like this cashcow of a game doing straight downgrades on everything all so the lazy devs at bungie can get even lazier.
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>>183156108
it seems like PvE balance was fucked again for PvP balance
i get what they're trying to do with PvP but i don't like it, everything feels slow
>>183156324
so that PvP is better balanced
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>>183156324

Because they're pandering to the lowest common denominator. People like >>183156534 who couldn't adapt and react to other people using snipers or shotguns cried a lot about them because they're bad at the game, so they nerfed everything.
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Man, Grenade Launchers do not feel good at all. I was expecting a nice bouncy launcher with some big explosions. Instead I've got on-contact grenades that are the equivalent of wet farts and all the range of a melee.
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>>183156705
It seems you don't remember bungle's last attempt.

I think this is an H5 render, but you get the point
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>>183156705
If you switch one of the perks you get bouncy grenades. I think this might just be a bad launcher though.
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>>183156787
I really liked that one though.
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>>183156834
Oh. Beats me then. I haven't tried them yet.
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>>183156914
I meant the Halo launcher
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>>183156534
Why fuck up PvE balance because they couldnt balance PvP?
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The villain is literally kingdom hearts shit with everyone else acting like it's a Marvel movie and they ruined all the good parts about the first game just to slow everything down. What the fuck is wrong with Bungie?
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>>183121479
Do we get to keep any thing from the beta or do we lose it all once it goes live?
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>>183157173
You lose sixty shekels but keep the regret and disappointment.
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>Abilities do much less damage now
>But they also take twice as long to charge

Really should have been one or the other. Waiting a full minute between any ability sucks ass.
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>>183157069
Ghaul is easily Bane, there is not a single kingdom hearts character that matches him.
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>>183157173
Do you really think we are going to start D2 off in full legendary gear?
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>>183157438
I'm not talking about his aesthetic design. I'm talking about his dialogue. Nigga went full Ansem. You can literally replace "the traveler" with "Kingdom Hearts" and it's the same dialogue.
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>>183157483
Well I mean, we probably are - but just for Homecoming, then it'll all get messed up when we fall or something, and we'll have to grab some salvaged weapons and armour, and go from there.
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>>183157483
It'll be "legendary" gear in appearance, but not stats, I think
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>>183157968
I think it'd be cool, thematically, to start us at level 20 with high Power and all legendaries, running up against the best the Red Legion has to offer, only to lose it all and have to fight our way through half-feral Fallen and seperated groups of Vex with salvaged weapons and armour.
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>>183156787
>bitching about the pro pipe
MW2 NoobTube scrub detected.
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>>183155736
it uses your melee charge
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>>183156673
>People like (You) who couldn't adapt and react to other people using snipers or shotguns cried a lot about them because they're bad at the game, so they nerfed everything
I'm not one of the people who did that, but I agree with you that's why they did it. Everybody used shotties/snipers and every shitter that got killed by one complained because >muh one-shots ;_;
Pretty much all of the balance patches post-HoW have simply been cutting the tallest blade of grass in a freshly mowed lawn and it's why the meta is fucking awful in D1. Even now special reliance hasn't changed, everybody still runs snipers, especially Icebreaker, or sidearms. Bungie tried to solve problems that didn't need solving and failed at doing so.

>>183157008
Because they're retarded and can't balance. However, shotguns, snipers, etc are in relatively unnerfed form compared to D1. The low heavy ammo in PVE has already been fixed, it's just not implemented in the beta.
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>>183156787
The reach grenade launcher was 10/10 though. You could get sweet bounce shots with it, lay traps, and emp vehicles. Satisfying sound as well.
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https://youtu.be/AtbgbBBn5L4
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am i retarded or can only 1 player pick up a heavy ammo drop
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>>183156787
>not liking the GL
I don't care if you think it's OP or shit, it was GOAT and that's all that matters
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>>183158370
Only one player.
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>Grenades are on a 1 minute and 30 second timer
>Supers are on a 7 minutess and 30 second timer
why?
it doesn't feel good to never have abilities or supers and when you finally do get them they're worse than they were in Destiny 1
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>>183158448

Destiny is the kind of game that definitely benefits from being able to use shit besides -guns-.

I have no idea why the CDs are so shit
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>>183158448
This. Either keep their neutered damage but bring their cooldown way down to like 30-45 seconds, or keep the high cooldowns but increase the lethality.

I'd prefer the former, but I'll take anything over the snoozefest we currently have.
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RLs are fukken shit too
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>>183158029
I think what he meant was that the gear will be purple and look appropriately purple but will have stats that are equivalent to beginner gear of D1 with some gimmicks added. Of course the enemies are also scaled to match. Then when you finish the tutorial / prologue and start the game proper you will find equipment which will have numbers that surpass your (broken?) purples. Maybe not whites and greens but for blues and up.

Effectively the same as taking away your legendaries and imported exotics, except this way you will keep seeing a continual increase in numbers rather than a jarring drop at first. Maybe that's not what they're going for though.
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>>183158370
Only 1 per person. First 'killing an enemy with heavy gives you some of his leftover heavy ammo' was a problem, then it was 'leaving your brick on the ground' was a problem, then it was 'heavy spawning more than once or twice' is a problem, now it's 'more than 2 people having heavy' is a problem. On the upside, shotguns and FRs aren't trash anymore and more heavy spawns per match.
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>>183158448

What, don't you want to feel like you're playing a generic cod clone?
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>>183158441
OH
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU DO WI-
>ded
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Guess most of the halo team really did leave bungie during destiny 1, this feels like an amateur attempt.
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Is best boy coming back?
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>>183158867
Wasn't he in the background in the reveal trailer? Or it was one of the trailers
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>>183128779
>>183129650
>filename
good taste
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>only have the ability to get 1 super per match
>Suppressor grenades still exist
I can physically taste the fucking salt, holy shit
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>>183159065
>nova bomb
Seriously though why is sentinel so stacked? Bungie's new pet class?
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>i can kill people in pvp
>but its super boring

they ruined it
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>>183159357
>nerf all of the abilities which makes pvp fun
>slow everything down
why?
does anyone actually like these changes?
why are they even trying to make this game an esport
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>>183159326
they spent all of d1 sucking the warlock's dick, now its the titan's time to shine
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>shite at PvP in D1
>having fun and standing my ground in D2 PvP
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>>183156787
the reach gl was the tightest shit though
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>>183159698
>nerf everything into the ground the game becomes a chore
>all so it can become an "e-sport"
>keep 30 fps and no dedicated servers
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>>183159698
i really like the slow movement speed, but slow speed AND long ability cds AND low ability damage is overkill.
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>>183121689
I disagree.

For example as a Striker titan you could kill the first single group of adds when teleported in Atheon's fight. But now it's a roaming super. So you'd kill the first adds, run forward while deleting 4 more enemies with super shoulder charges and then blast another group with a second AoE smash. Some supers are much better than D1's so it's only natural they recharge slower.

Also keep in mind we have class abilities now, which are mini-suppers. A Titan's Wall + Warlock's pool = pseudo D1 Titan bubble with health regen. If we get these current better suppers to charge as fast as D1 AND our class abilities the game would be too easy.
It doesn't help that Sentinel Titan and Gunslinger Hunter have their best PvE subclass path blocked in the beta. S.Titans will be able to spam grenades and G. Hunters have (seemingly) broken DPS with those bottom goldengun perks for boss damage.

The only think I hope Bungie does is give a huge bugg to melee-based builds. It's simple too risky as a Sentinel Titan to actively try and kill with melee just to give an overshield for allies that won't be close enough to you to get the buff in the first place. They NEED to extend the range of that buff from the current 7meters (or so) to something like 40meters - otherwise no one will use melee builds when the other ones are so much better and less risky/situational
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>people are actually giving this the "but it's a beta" treatment
>After fucking ducking destiny 1 and it's beta

Why do people do it to themselves?
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>xbox trash get the beta today
>bv posting with current remarks despite being a man
Do not want
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>>183157483
I asked if we get to keep anything, not the best stuff.
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>>183137640
>but man did they do a number on abilities, supers, and any weapon that is not a primary
good.
> Grenade cooldown is like 30 seconds and you wont charge your super until over halfway through a match.
good
>Special ammo is scarce as fuck.
I'll sure miss slide shotty's and sniper spam. aww
>Now pvp is pretty much a primary weapon battle
Perfect!
>but RIP to melee.
Damn, Stormcaller warlocks can't KO me from 10 metres away anymore? What a shame

>its just a primary fest with an occaisonal grenade, all the wacky shit is on cooldown.
More positives. Sounds just like Halo.

Why does your post SOUND so negative and why did you post an unrelated image when everything you said is a vast improvement over the first game?
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should I get this on PS4 or PC? I have no friends on both platforms.
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>>183160890
no
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>>183160890
ps4
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>>183160820
*cutsey
auto correct fucking with my shitposts
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>>183160890
Console for day 1 unspoiled raids
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This game looks like it's going to be basically a shitty expansion for the first game
Y/N?
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>>183160862
>Sounds just like Halo.
this isn't halo
this isn't meant to be halo
this doesn't even feel like halo
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>>183161156
n

looks like a really good expansion
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>>183160862
i agree with everything this nigga is saying.
everyone became so dependent on abilities and special weps for easy kills that the thought of having to git gud with their gun skills is bonkers
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>>183161316
Did the fallen steal an entire Colony Ship from Old Russia and parked it on Nessus?
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>>183135517
>I'm seriously worried about recoil on PC though.
there just won't be any, or at least it won't make an impact to playing

PC and console will end up with very different metas when it comes to weapon picks
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>>183160862
if i wanted to play halo i'd play halo, the abilities are a big part of what make Destiny's pvp fun
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>>183161387
It's so nice to turn a corner and not get stickied for an insta kill.
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>>183161450
yeah it was real fun when i played pvp 4 days ago and got killed over and over by supers 1 second after i spawned
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>>183161283
A really good expansion that rapes PvP to death and pisses on its corpse
D2 is as kikish as it gets
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>>183161398
>>183161316
I wonder if this is the crashed ship feat. in the SIVA strike that we've seen the activity screen of
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>Japanese girl gamer streaming Destiny2

Kazuto imposter wishes he was this cute.
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>>183161398
>>183161730

It's Exodus Black
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>>183160862
>sounds like halo

Fucking kek, have you played halo? This isn't even close.
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>>183160890
PC, because PC
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>>183161569
It's real fun having to wait around 7 minutes so I can use my super in the last minute of the game
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>>183161213
>>183161450
Don't care. D1 PvP was utter shit, especially after any sort of META was established. I would say Trials were the best part, but we all know about their current state.

D2 got rid of sniper spam and slide shotty's? Cool, I IMMEDIATELY do not care about ANY other "bad" change D2 made. It's already vastly superior do D1.
Oh no... grenades/melee take 90 seconds to recharge now, and you can only use Super once per match? Why should I care? Before I couldn't walk around a corner without getting sniped within 0.2 seconds.
D1's PvP was only ever fun on a super casual level, like using un-nerfed Vex Mythoclast in PvP or getting lucky with Hawkmoon's perk. But for extended periods of time, when you're actually trying to win? D1 graaaatted on you with all of its broken mechanics which Bungie constantly tried to solve but a day later someone would find another exploit.

>Shoulder charge no longer 1-hit KO's and is tied to your melee cooldown (can't be spammed)
>Sticky nades no longer kill you even when stuck
>The removal of every secondary special weapon to the heavy slot is amazing
>I can now actually walk around corners with long sight ranges because I know there are no snipers in the map, or at worst 1 at a time
>I can now actually walk around a corner inside a close space because I know there are no slide shotgunners in the map, or at worst 1 at a time
>I no longer need to hold a grudge towards Warlocks because every class melee range is the same (outside of special abilities)
>No more Nightstalker Hutner voidwall grenade + Envenomed spam

I could go on and on and on. 80% of D1's cancerous PvP problems were related to everything outside of primary weapons, and now that they are fixed you bitch about it? Amazing.
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>>183162186
>He wants to use his super

Eat my supression grenade, skill-free faggot.
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>>183162302
Jokes on you because grenades also have a stupidly long recharge time
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>>183162186
It doesn't help that all but one of the supers are roaming, so you wait until the end of a match and then have to play around 4 supers getting popped one by one.
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how do you stay alive long enough in PVP? it feels like it cant get k/d above 4 because there's always some kid who gets around me when i'm in a gunfight
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>>183162412
Hence why a smart sentinel keeps his Supps for when a potentially dangerous super is cast.
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I am honestly not enjoying PVP much. There's pretty much no 1v1s, and everyone just holds hands and team shoots. No getting angels or flanking. Pretty obvious why they took out Rumble, because the game is too slow and would never work.

https://a.pomf.cat/ajnuyb.webm
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>>183162246
ppl want ez kills m8 its no wonder theyd complain now that theyre gonna have to learn to aim
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>>183162537
I've heard Arcstrider moves pretty slow, is that compared to the other Supers (like Fist which moves fast and Blade that can fly)? How many suppressors are you whiffing on?
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>>183162758
Considering the game tells you when which super is cast and usage of kill-feed to interprete where the super currently is the whiffing is fairly low. Maybe one out of five times.
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>>183162246
I know the changes helped pvp, but the grenade damage nerf, on top of the increased base cooldown on abilities, have done nothing but hurt pve

A grenade not killing a legionary is a bit stupid, having to wait 90 seconds to throw another one is even worse
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>>183162898
I totally forgot about the ticker, good shit. Damn why are Titans so good
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Of all of the strike bosses they could have shown us why did it have to be another giant minataur?
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I'm not sure what they did to the Voidwalker but it feels really nice to me. Maybe it's the blink, not sure, but this is the first time in a long while I'm really enjoying void-warlocks.
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>>183162992
but anon THE FLOOR GOES AWAY and HE DOES SHOCKWAVES
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whats up with Failsafe-chan's multiple personality disorder
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>>183162992
Optimistically, they set our expectations really low so every other boss feels and plays really cool.
Realistically, they have nothing new and Destiny 2 is a glorified expansion.
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>>183163084
I liked the parts leading up to boss at least
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Is it just me, or are Sidearms super bad now?
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>>183163290
Century old AI that was repaired with half assed efforts or something.
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>>183162246
I haven't played it yet (Boner), and that all sounds great to me.

From the sound of people's complaints about it being slow, I'd hazard a guess that the only real tweaks that need to be made is increased primary damage to bring the TTKs a bit lower and take the focus away from supersweaty team manoeuvres that favours premades and back to 1v1 style play.
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Does Bungie have an email for beta feedback or do i just have to go the hellhole that is Bungie.net forums?
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>>183162246
that "fix" gutted PvE. removing special reduces overall output by a shitton and cooldowns are too long

they should have tried this new system at D1 weapon power first
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>>183163512
My experience was that it took some time to adapt but once you got used to it the game plays and feels really well. Nearly everything is a gun fight.

My impression is really that most complains stem from people who couldn't get kills without abilities.
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>>183163290
I dont know but its CUTE.
I want her to be my ghost bungie pls, nolandroid can fuck off.
>Um, whats happening to the floor??? xD
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It's jarring how shittier and slower everything in the demo was. You can really feel how they killed this game for the casual audience and PVP whiners. Everyone is shitting on it and that's good because the cuck community always runs damage fucking control on this game no matter what. I'll probably get replies running damage control.
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>>183163637
vex milk yummy cummy in my tummy
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>>183163618
I'm looking forward to it, regardless. It'll be nice to play a game that isn't so dependent on people trying to trade with you via abilities and secondary weapons.

Is the gutted movement as bad as people are saying? One thing I love about Destiny is the freedom of movement you get and I think it'd be a shame if it was nerfed as badly as people are making it out to be.
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>>183163794
When you make a last line like that it just shows you know you're an insecure dumbfuck.
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if you're complaining about the pvp im going to assume you're just a total shitter and you literally need to get good at this game
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>>183163883
Hey look I was right
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>>183163996
http://destinytracker.com/destiny/overview/ps/nom_de_busdriver
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>>183163830
>Is the gutted movement as bad as people are saying?

It is very noteable. You cannot get around the map as quickly anymore.
But if you need to get out of a bad situation I feel that class abilities compensate quite nicely.

Instead of skating out titans can put up their shield which can eat a decent amount of damage and give you enough time to run.

Hunters have their dodge. I haven't played this one too much yet but it feels like it has a really good amount of i-frames.

Warlocks have the healing rift and the healing is really strong. In a 1v1 scenario you can easily outgun your opponent with little effort. Dawnblade also has the aerial evade of the Twilight Garrison which makes them super nimble in mid air.
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>>183163434
yes
range feels reduced
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>>183164019
ditto
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>>183163434
The range is shorter but I feel like the ones they gave us are especially trash.
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I don't like how there are no other attachments or upgrades you can choose from on the new exotic weapons I hope all of them aren't like that
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>>183164076
is that supposed to be an insult or something
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>>183164195
>>183164324
Yeah. It feels like Sidearms should be to Scout Rifles as SMGs are to Auto Rifles.
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>>183164410
With stats like that, it certainly isn't a compliment
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>Sandbox balancing is still taking place: Some weapons or abilities may have higher or lower damage than intended
Reminder for those who missed the weekly update
>>183163541
Gotta use the Bungie forums. Reddit would be your 2nd best option
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>>183164531
implying stats even matter in the crucible, literally the most casual pvp experience on console. lol!
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>>183163996
D1 or beta?
you shit on and get shit on in D1, but beta is a snoozefest

weaken some guy and he skedaddles off to come back and skedaddles off again to come back and skedaddles off where he brings his buddy and you bring your buddy and everyone goes back home and reshuffles around the map
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>say you're making the game way bigger
>keep it the same size but half movement speed

Those sly kikes.
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>>183164614
>nothing about cooldowns
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>>183164726
Spoken like a true shitter.
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>>183164792
who is the real shitter here if im the one *not* hiding behind anonymity?
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>>183164756
Just like the Dreadnaught being the biggest patrol space when it was released.

After they take away sparrows.
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>>183164880
Still you
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>>183164206
Come on bro call me a hater on entitled or remind everyone how I'll buy this game in September like every other cancerous fanboy in this community.
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>>183164756
it takes like 7 or 8 fukken minutes to sprint from spawn to that spire
that's why that shit strike is 20 minutes
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>>183164741
if you dont like that style of play, thats one thing. but overall d2 feels a lot healthier from a competitive standpoint than d1 in any gamemode
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>>183165035
You can suck his cock if it makes you feel any better.
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>>183164768
Ability cooldowns worries me I really hope armor in the full game helps to solve this issue cause god damn it's so boring having to wait so long to use my abilities
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>>183165103
“The Destiny fanboy is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Destiny fanboy and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
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>>183165186
Pretty long winded reply only to do the things you accuse the fanboys of.
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>We are gutting PVE for competitive PVP
>30fps
>Slower than call of duty
>Abilities, the only things that could help the game stand out, are fucking shit and rarely used due to cool downs

This is going to be Starcraft 2 levels of failure for competitive play.
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>>183165186
Kek
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OY VEY GOY! How fucking DARE you, I'll having you know that it's just a BETA you filthy chattel.
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>>183165294
>You are just as bad as the people you complain about because you complain about them

It's like we are in first grade again all of a sudden.
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You guys like men in your buttholes.
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>>183165574
Considering your initial post you're certainly right with that.

Maybe go to school and learn how to participate in an actual debate and how to structure arguments before you make yourself look like a dumbfuck.

Or are you just farming (you)s? In which case here, have another.
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>in d1 cabal all had roman sounding ranks, names usually had a structure you could identify
>tu'arc, mu'aul, tlu'urn
>d2 throws that out the window with names like brann, kreth and ghaul
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>>183160862
>>183162246
Fucking lel, I cant wait for the game to release and people like you continue to bitch and moan when you get shat on by team shots and 1v1 primary battles, and begin scrambling for nerfs and saying the pvp in d2 is shit just like d1.

Youre just fucking shit at pvp thats why d1 was pvp was shit to you. You got styled on but the 1 shot deaths stood out the most in your small mind and now that everything has been gutted but primaries you will get styled on by those.

Its going to be the same pvp at the core but shitters like you have made nothing but primaries usable with your incessant whining and bungie trying to pander to you scrubs.
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>>183165835
How about you learn that criticism does not mean you hate a game you fanboy fuck?
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>>183165851
what if the names are more indicative of their sect? These are the first mainline non-scouts we've come across, after all
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>>183166176
Someone had to say it. Thanks my boy.
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>>183166176
I'm fucking excellent at Destiny's Crucible and I'm absolutely loving the new pace of D2's take on things

if people want abilities out-the-ass (which is fair enough, there ain't nothing wrong in preferring one over the other), then just stick to playing Mayhem in the future post-launch when it's the weekly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>183163794
>how they killed this game for the casual audience

You mean be removing a OHK spammable ability from a certain class?

Yeah, really dumbed it down.
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>>183163580 see >>183160314

>>183166176
>people like you continue to bitch and moan when you get shat on by team shots and 1v1 primary battles
Why? Bungie made the amazing decision to limit teams to 4 players, meaning that I will forever play the game in pre-made teams, considering that finding 3 friends to play with consistently is much easier than finding 5 friends at any one time.
Yesterday I only played a single match with one random guy, every other match my whole team of pre-made and in a party communicating. I guess it sucks for solo players, but I'm not a solo player so it doesn't affect me.

Anyway I didn't quite get the point of your rant. I don't see how 1v1 or team engagements are in any way related to the focus on primary weapons rather than secondary weapons/ability spam of D1. You still got random 1v2 or 1v3 encounters in D1, the only difference being that you died from 2 snipers and 3 abilities rather than focused primary fire.
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How come Destiny has such a high density of edgy usernames?

Every second player I see relates to Hell, Demon, Dark or something of the likes,
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>>183166708
People who play Destiny are 12 years old
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>>183166708
most people made their PSN when they were really young and there's no means of changing your name

>forever stuck with a fucking "001" at the end of my name
I wish I could punch 14yo me in the face for that
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>>183165851
Brann, Kreth, and Ghaul are from the same clan/family unit just like tu'arc, mu'aul and tlu'urn are from the same.
Source? My ass but I bet my pre-order it'll be in a Grimoire card or whatever replaces them.
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>This beta feels like one step forward two steps back, seems like everything but the story is dumbed down to hell. I can't get over how fucking slow everything is as well, even sprinting feels more like a power walk.
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>>183166890
>>183166236
You're probably right.
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>>183166840
Sony would make a killing if they sold name-changes
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>>183166530
>D2
>mayhem
>not esports
Next you'll be thinking they're going to have 6v6 or Rumble
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The slow super gain rate just makes snow balling even worse.
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>>183167106
I do think they'll have larger player count modes and FFA, yes

but I think they'll be locked behind DLC and only be weekend/weekly playlists at that; gotta keep bringing that playercount up
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>>183167106
You are an idiot, my man, if you think rumble is not coming back.
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>>183166932
The story seems pretty generic too. New baddie comes out of nowhere fucks your shit up you beat him save the day. How about instead of that they just expand on the fucking lore they have been neglecting?
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>>183166530
There's a difference in wanting abilities to be useful and wanting to play mayhem
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>>183167316
They foreshadowed the Red Legion coming, you dumbass.
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>>183141171
Everyone here are just whiny crybabies. The game is fine and feels like a sequel despite what they're saying. Anyone who says pvp is too slow is just shit at the game.
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>>183166672
Youll see, more focus on primaries means more focus on team shotting and when one team hits an early stride it will be much harder to catch up.

Team shotting will rule pvp, everyone will stick together like glue with little you can do about it if you lose the initial team fight. A weak link in your team will be VERY noticable and even more of a liability than d1 pvp.
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>>183167452
What the fuck does that have to do with the story being generic you god damn retard. I didn't say this was unexpected just the excution is uninspired.
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>>183142215
Correct. Everyone is just used to T11 cooldowns
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>>183167749
You call it generic because you don't know gauls reason for being there.

You are arguing on a platform of ignorance, Unfuck yourself.
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>>183167749
>New baddie comes out of nowhere

You fucking crackhead.
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>>183167840
We know why Ghaul is there. He wants the Travelers light.
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>>183167982
The traveller's light has jack shit to do with to do with dichotomy between Gaul and the humans and th traveler.
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I really don't get what they are trying to do here. They say they want to push MUH ESPORTS yet all of the changes have removed depth. On top of that this has had a negative effect on the PVE experience, so if their esports shit doesn't take off, they've just neutered the game for nothing. Don't have a great feeling about this. I guessing the story missions will be much better but the end game is just going to be doa.
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>>183167659
This they are just toxic entitled shits. This game is fucking perfect good damn it anyone who says otherwise should be like up and shot. It should be fucking illegal to criticize this game with the punishment being AT LEAST death. No one fucks with this game NO ONE SUGGESTS IT ISNT PERFECT.
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>>183168078
>Traveler comes to Sol system
>makes Guardians out of the people, robots, space people
>canal gets mad jelly
>ghaul wants dat Light
>blows up the City and takes the Light
>b-but it has nothing to do with the traveler or the light!
You are this retarded.
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>>183168241
It has little to do with the light itself, and everything to do with Gaul viewing the humans as unworthy.
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>>183167659
>Anyone who says the game is slow are just bad
>No skill based movement

What did he mean by this?
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>>183168145
>superspam and one hit kill meta
>depth
choose one (1) of the above
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>>183168145
t. Datto
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>>183168421
Titan skating was not skill based.

Titans are just asshurt they can't OHK (with near zero CD) and move twice as fast as everyone else with little effort.

They are shitters.
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>>183168145
>>183168480
this
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>>183168354
Yeah. Unworthy of the traveler's light. Did you forget that part?
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>tfw wiped to the BAGGER 288
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>>183168354
>unworthy
Of what, exactly. C'mon, follow it through now. You can do it.
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>>183168586
Did I mention titan skating? I'm simply pointing out that the game is either slow or it's not, skill has nothing to do with when fucking cod has more skill based movement.
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>>183167957
Yes he came out of nowhere I know the cabal sent a distress beacon but they didn't say "touch down two months from now".
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>>183168640
So, your simplistic statement of "He wants the Travelers light" is inherently false. The travelers light as little to do with it (as you just agreed) and everything to do with humans being unworthy
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>>183169012
Anon, I'm legitamately concerned for you now. There's no way you're being serious, right? How does ghaul thinking the guardians are not worthy of the travelers light nor have anything to do with the travelers light?
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He wants the Light because he thinks humans are unworthy. Happy now?
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so is that atheons corpse in the strike above the boss, i see the boss itself is not-atheon and the fanatic guys are at the end and shit
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I expected Failsafe to be another quipbot
but it's [s4s] in AI form. When can I ditch my ghost for her?
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Voidwalker CONFIRMED OP with that 2nd perk tree
they can heal so much...
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>>183169537
what's s4s
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>>183169627
a postironic playground.
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Hey, spent hundreds of hours in Destiny, I heard D2 is streamlined. I just booted up beta and see character stats have been reduced to Resilience, Mobility, and Recovery. What else changed (for the worse)?
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>>183169627
its shota for suckers
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>>183169546
Honestly pretty much every locked tree seems better except Striker's.
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>>183169167
Its not JUST about the travelers light. Please point out, specifically, where I said it has nothing to do with the travelers light at all.

Or do you not know what dichotomy means? If you think you do, yet still disagree, please post the definition if you want another you
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>>183169794
Just about everything really. Everything that should have been expanded has instead been """streamlined""".
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>>183169167
He's a contrarian idiot who's been here since at least reveal. Just ignore him.
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>>183170040
>it's contrarian to state that Gaul is there only for the light

(You)
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>>183169985
yeah I'm seeing the subclass skilltree has been neutered too... what was the point of doing this? was the first game really too much for people to understand?
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>>183169985
Wut. The zones and story's have been expanded, along with (presumably) the abilities.

>>183170225
You only have access to one skill tree out of the subclass currently.

Notice the four locked nodes?
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>>183170225
They've added to the FPS side and subtracted from the RPG side.

This is a good thing, by the way.
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>>183170282
I see a couple striker abilities that are gone but I have a bad memory so whatever. I'm also now noticing that recovery isn't for cool down reduction but health recovery? Can you no longer build for lower cool down?
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>>183170368
>They've added to the FPS side and subtracted from the RPG side.
Seeing how the gunplay was literally the only thing that kept me coming back to the first game this seems like a positive. Too bad i'm a NEET ATM. Hopefully by October i can play.
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>>183170368
don't forget that armour/weapons have, what are essentially, gem slots ala Diablo now

there's still more depth to come in the full release
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>>183169985
>boohoo my dump stats are gone
suck a cabal's dick
suck dracula's dick
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>>183169794
>boring Int/Disc/Str bullshit is gone
oh nooo
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>>183170449
CD will be on specific armor rather than a stat.

You can build for dmg resistance , recovery, or speed for base stats.
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>>183170485
Agreed. I leveled my hunter to 40 with only starter gear, practically removing the RPG element entirely, and still had a fucking blast. The RPG stuff is supposed to be there to a) reward you for continued play and b) customize abilities to better fit how you want to play.

At least this hybrid is more successful than Oni.
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>>183170569
Yeah, fuck having an actual skill tree. I'm much happier only using one of two bungie approved builds! Thank you so much deej I'm literally crying.

-user was awarded 4chan gold for this post
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how is the nightstalker? ill main that for another 3 years if i have to
>>
>yfw Inverted Spire comes up as your first Strike on launch day
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>>183170850
Anon...
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>>183170717
oh that's cool, it's more or less the same thing. thanks.
>>
Hey, what time does the xbone beta drop? 12 noon EST or 1 pm?
>>
>>183170850
Looking like it's going to be DLC down the line. I wish I was joking.
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>>183170958
1
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>>183170906
Well you have less wasted armor nodes like MAOR INT. It's either armor, recovery, or speed, with the nodes doing other shit or changing the above stats completely.
>>
>>183170959
>>183170891
titan it is then
no way im touching faggot type warlocks
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>>183169546
The effect is gonna last like 2 seconds tops in order to make it more PvP friendly.
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>>183168480

I think people just got too used to overpowered exotics and being lone wolves with supers generating every minute or less that it broke them to have be careful and think about how to coordinate supers with their team.

It'd be like Gearbox curbing the ridiculous damage scaling in Borderlands 3. Once you give someone the crack, it's hard to get them off it.
>>
>>183171121
So you think it's better that everyone gets their supers at the exact same time then? And only once per game as well.
>>
>>183171307
Not ideal, but yes, better than the D1 clusterfuck.
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>>183171307
1 per game supers is a good thing
>>
How long until we get separate balancing between PvP and PvE?
>>
>>183171702
Destiny 5 on pc
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>>183171307

I've been a more neutral game type of person, and that seems to have been made much better in D2 with more options for you and the team if you are cognizant of the synergy.

Plus, you wouldn't get supers at the same time unless the matches were close.

As people are learning the supers, they will stop being needlessly aggressive because of less craziness with no icebreaker/two shot HCs/etc. and wasting them by trying to go Gung-ho only to be team shot and complain they only get one super a match. You'll have people use them for strategy, not just free kills.
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>>183171860
ded game on release
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>>183171860
>implying it won't go Destiny > Destiny 2 > Destiny 3 > World of Destiny
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>>183171307
>>183171421
>>183171436
I kinda wish supers were about ready come round#3, with the chance to get another in the final round-ish if you're doing really well

still, I'm happier with what we've got now than what D1 has
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>>183171909
>Using fighting game terminology for fucking destiny

Neck yourself.
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>>183172019
I'd be so okay with this.
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>when you win a pulse footsie battle against a titan and then FADC into super
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>>183172380
>fadc
don't you mean crush counter combo into v-trigger, anon?
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Is patrol in this Beta like it was for D1?

That was one of my most fondest memories from the D1 beta was just exploring the cosmodrome and enjoying that gorgeous skybox.
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>>183172691
not until i get a birdie subclass, no
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>>183172730
>patrol
anon...

there's the intro mission; x1 strike;
x2 crucible gametypes, each with their own map; social space is open for an hour on Sunday. That's it.
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>>183172730
No patrol at all.

This beta is less about selling the game and more about stress testing.
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>>183173056
I bet they sneak in a second strike or a patrol space for 20 minutes ala the unexpected moon trip in D1's beta.
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>>183131248
>Biggest issue with the beta so far?
Charge detonation feels super huge

>Biggest relief?
More gunplay, less abilities
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>>183173056
>no fun allowed, the beta

Fuck PVP fags why did they even put that shit in this game, it was supposed to be this massive open world space opera that bungee has been working on since 2000 fucking 9 and now it's just another MLG cash grab for sweaty high school-aged teens whom will only play this game for 2 months before switching back to the newest flavor of the month 2kXX sports meme game.

Video games are dead.
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>>183168220
wew, i havent seen someone THIS mad in a looooong time
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>>183173156
Wait what explain. I never did D1 beta
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>>183173412
they opened up the moon for a short while despite everyone being led to believe the beta only consisted of cosmodrone and crucible content.
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>>183173156
They are letting you go to the farm (new tower) for an hour on the last day. That's it.
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>>183173412
They opened up the first moon mission for like 1 hour the last day of the beta. Most people ignored the mission and explored. Little did we know that all those locked doors would remain locked b/c the game had actually no content.
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>>183173239
See, I played a lot of PvP in D1 - but Bungo haven't a clue how to balance for shit. Even introducing Sidearms and SMGs has done nothing to shake anything up. It's still HC/Scout/Pulse because they give the most damage per shot and have the best range. Not to mention that SMGs and Sidearms, being primaries, do not shred up close as you'd expect them. So you have the exact same TTK, except if you're further than 5ft then it doubles or triples while you're getting 3-4 shotted by everything else.

Fucking with abilities didn't help either, makes PvE and PvP feel boring. Running strikes was a good laugh compared to more serious activities like Raids, because you could just back-to-back super and throw an assload of grenades, or run Defender with Gift of Light and punch endless amounts of dudes, shitting orbs everywhere while using dumb weapons - because it was fun.

Now we have barely any supers to use and grenades and melee that are useless because they've been neutered and have a MUCH longer cooldown. Everything's fucked and it's awful.
>>
>3 nergals and a helmet so far
yup that's destiny
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>>183173639
>I'm sure this black fog that is blocking areas is just there to keep stuff secret, it's a beta after all

>>183173630
I know, I'm saying as an unannounced treat
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>>183173412
bungie opened up the first mission on the moon for like, an hour near the end of destiny 1's beta. people were able to explore the surface and go pretty deep

also they held iron banner for hour-long stints like, twice, just to give people loot they couldn't equip
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>>183174113
>>183174113
>>183174113
NEW THREAD
>>183174113
>>183174113
>>183174113
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>>183173760
>I'm sure this black fog that is blocking areas is just there to keep stuff secret, it's a beta after all

We were all so naive
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>>183172730
Relaxing and messing around with a bunch of people in the Skywatch in the Alpha remains one of my fondest memories of the game.
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>>183155979
Maybe you need to do something outside?
Some dude on youtube mentioned that after you fucked around enough with the portals near the starting point some major vex appear. Also, I find curious the little pond of "normal" water the cabal seem to be guarding near said portals. In no other place there's "normal" water
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