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BASIC INFORMATION
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>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Character Overviews:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame Data
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 Moves per Character
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/

TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS
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>KBD
https://youtu.be/3whW6bh9Aks
>Buffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38iJWsjc_w8
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on Pad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5Ji23k4LU
>Getting Up
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
>Video Playlist for Combos with Every Character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n

NEWS
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>Tekken World Tour Announced
http://tk7.tekken.com/news/tekken-world-tour-announced
>New PC Patch Segregates Hackers and Other Fixes
http://steamcommunity.com/games/389730/announcements
>PS4 Patch Version 1.03
http://tekkengamer.com/2017/07/04/ps4-tekken-7-patch-ver-1-03-launched-japan-regions-soon-follow/
>Tekken Bowl trailer
https://youtu.be/-BaJENh1Irs
>Geese Howard Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Gbw8ljsiU
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KA
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Best Boi
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marathoned taunt jet uppers for an hour yesterday and still can't pull it off perfectly
I want to finally be able to start playing the game ffs
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Play master raiden
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>>183114659
Nice meme.
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>Eddy player wants a run back
My fucking sides
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>>183113910
Are people supposed to start bringing their keyboards to tournies now?
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>>183114724
meme already? that was fast
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>>183114659
You're trying to ride a motorcycle when you should be learning how to walk.
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Holy fuck Hwoarangs armor move is such bullshit
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>>183114910
don't tell me you fell for it amigo
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Who /dailydemotionmatch/ here?
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Haven't played since T6 and want to get back, Trying to pick a new main, got any advice ?

My old faves are Heihachi (since T3), Lars, Asuka, Lily and Zafina (previous main). Zafina is out but Kazumi seems fine, Alisa finally has an ok looking costume so I'm considering checking out those two as well.
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>>183114837
Somebody did on stream at EVO.
I bet others did but off stream.
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>>183115303
Saint recommended Lily for new players
very strong even on pro level and easy to pick up
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I can't get passed vanguard with kazuya I've been at it for like 6 days fuckkkkk
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>play steve
>opponent hits a button at the start of a match
>b+1
>get a full combo right from the start
>as they're standing up f,f,f+3
>they don't realize it's plus on block
>they hit a button
>b+1
>do the whole combo again

I CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>Akuma/Eliza niggers send a request to fight
>they actually think I'm going to accept it and go against these niggers
play a real character faggot
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>>183116037
This
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>>183116037
Are u gonna do the same against geese
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>>183116037
t. initiate
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>>183116004
>the origin of Steve hate posts
hurr cant press a buttan
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I hate Lars players so fucking much
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>>183116037
(you)
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>>183116004
>f,f,f+3
>tfw steve starts ducking towards you
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katarina is such low effort garbage
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>>183116037
This
>>183116139
Yes
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>>183114652
worst redesign
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>>183116139
pretty much yes

>>183116309
>>183116143
t.retards too stupid to play Tekken characters
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>>183116470
I play Tekken characters though. I just think you're retarded.

>>183116353
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>try out a different character
>get to 9dan with ~25 wins
>now at 60 wins
>6dan
what the FUCK
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>>183116643
>I play Tekken characters
who does that? just goes on the internet and lies like that?
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So a friend just had me watch some Injustice 2 matches from Evo where a dude just did a shit ton of chip damage to win matches and it got me wondering, in Tekken can the chip damage from blocking Akuma's fireballs KO you? I've never seen it happen and the chip damage seems barely noticable so I was curious.
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>tfw you've hit a wall and don't know how to climb it
Reaching fighter rank has shown me how bad I really am, I might even switch off my main characters for a bit
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>>183116349
meant 2 but still applies

>when you realize they're about to block your unblockable

im in love with this character
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>>183116470
Eliza is a Tekken character though. She was made by Namco for Tekken.
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>>183116991
>breaks the rules of the game
>Tekken character
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>>183116771
I only play Tekken characters because I think it's dumb to design characters with another game's design in mind and shove them in Tekken. I still think you're retarded for complaining and dodge whole characters instead of learning how to kill them.
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>>183117145
Rules? Where is that on the main menu?
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>>183116037

Why do people come on 4chan and proudly proclaim themselves giant scrubs?

Is it some kind of humiliation fetish thing?
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>>183117145
>breaks the rules of the game
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Dodge tier:
Akuma
Eddy
Asuka

Winquit/no rematch tier:
Katarina
Leo
Xaioyu
Hwoarang
Josie
Paul
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Is Heihachi a good character for a beginner?
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>>183116759
11 Dan ~50 wins
10 Dan ~150 wins

I know that feel
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>>183117313
>Shitter who doesn't know how to fight.
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>>183117313
Alisa and law should be on dodge tier
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>>183117145

>rules of the game

Anon I have bad news for you: you will be shit forever
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>>183117501
I'm sorry you play a crutch character.
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>>183117313
Shit tier:
every dodging manlet
MainManSWE
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>>183116807
Same but at Vanguard, I've been sitting there for the past few days
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>>183117614
I'm sorry you can't figure out how to defend and fight against Paul of all people.
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If people just filtered everyone who complains every thread, this place would be dead and I'm starting to think that is what's slowly happening.
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>>183117313
It's not a /tekgen/ dodge list without King.
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>>183117758
U know Paul has the best 50/50 game in the whole game and the most damaging counterhits

He is the closest character that's broken in this game. I went through beginner to yellow in nearly a day with Paul. I've been at it for a week with kazuya still haven't cracked yellow
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>>183117901

>Dodging King

What

Litterally why
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Online tournaments are a fucking mess
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>>183117713
Post 10 seconds of you doing 5 consecutive EWGFs online
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>>183117313
Dodge tier:
Nobody

Winquit/no rematch tier:
Nobody

Rematch tier:
Everybody
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>>183117927

It's so easy to bait out a whiffed demoman it's hilarious
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>>183118053
This.
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>>183117901
You're right I forgot him lmao but I don't dodge King just winquit them if they keep going for grabs
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>notice my opponent in player match isn't blocking low
>decide to try and teach him by spamming lili's sweep
>he never blocks them and I kill him with nothing but sweeps
>leaves instantly afterwards and probably thinks I'm an asshole or something

I just wanted him to learn...
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>>183117549
>jumps incredibly high and has projectiles
>FADC that can into 100+ damage or death
>2 supers
>not breaking the rules of the game
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>>183118053
This guy gets it.
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>>183118017
I can post me not dodging 5 consecutive King players
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Winquit tier: anyone with a weeaboo avatar or the "2D is all I need" title.
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>>183118053

The only decent player in this thread
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Is it just me or is PSN just fucking awful at the moment? Everyone has one bar and every fucking match is a slideshow
>inb4 PSN lol
I'm looking for serious input here
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>>183118129
Post rank?
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>>183118338
PSN lol
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>>183118173

>WHY IS THIS GRAB CHARACTER TRYING TO GRAB ME I WANTED HIM TO USE ALL HIS SHITTY LOWS INSTEAD AND LOSE
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>>183118398
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is the trainer safe to use? i heard from a friend there is a secret matchmaking pool for "cheaters". confirm/deny?
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Is Harada here? When is the PC version getting patched?
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>>183118217

Stay bad
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>>183118558
Yes I am harada, don't ask me for shit
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>>183118653
Hey Harada, Julia when?
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>>183118558
Soon
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>>183118542

Confirm but it won't happen immediately
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>>183118558
is progress of the continuing for now, but say we decide to implementing for then? go with that
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>>183118536
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>>183117848
The good tekgen players hardly post here.

>>183118053
^

>>183118558
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>>183118653
Woah it really is Harada
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How's it going today boys? Are you having fun playing other characters and learning?
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>>183118886
No I can't get passed vanguard and have been between fighter and vanguard for 100+ wins
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>>183118369

I don't play ranked but I place in money in locals. Haven't attended a regional yet so we'll see, maybe I am shit and so is every Paul I ever fought.
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>>183118619
shut it nigger
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>700 wins
>only in green
>only 150 hours into the game

How do people even do this?
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>>183118956
Play some other characters to relax anon! I believe in you!
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>>183118252
Tfw I have both
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>>183119049
Do what?
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>>183119102
>josie faggot
>weeb
bet you're dodged all day too huh
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>>183119052
I don't even want to play any other chars

:(
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>play a King
>finally start breaking his grabs
>3-0 him
>he rage quits
PURE BLISS
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>>183118959
>I don't play ranked
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>>183119102
>>183119180
not me it'll be like you
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>>183119180
But I play Claudio I just don't have a Claudio edit of that pic and I'm too shit at art to make my own
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>>183118956
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>>183118217
>FADC is balanced for a game where combo scaling starts on the first hit
>copied into a game where combo scaling doesn't start until your opponent leaves the ground
The actual problem here is that Akuma is following Tekken's rules when he's not balanced for them.
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>>183118982

No u
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>>183119256
same thing happened to me
king players are fucking worthless bitches
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Why are tekken players the biggest character whiners?
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>yet another gay cowboy custom outfit

I'm glad they're already dressed for the occasion, cause I'm about to pound that ass
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>set bars to 5 bars only
>go against some lagging nigger that drops to 3 bars
>leave instantly since the game stops right when I'm about to juggle
>deranked for this
fuck this retarded game and these niggers who lag
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>>183119538
Because Tekken in the game where knowing what your opponent can do is more important than knowing everything your character can do.
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>>183119108
Get 700 wins in the span of 150 hours and yet still be in green.
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>>183119538
These guys aren't Tekken players. They'll whine about anything in any game. Did you forget where you are?
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>>183119336

Duck

>>183119259

Can't post a rank I don't have, dunno what to tell you. Online gave me bad habits in SCV because no one would break grabs and everyone hit buttons at - minus frames so I stopped playing online sknce I have a scene to play with. Meme all you like.
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This is my wife. She is super cute. Please don't hurt her feelings by dodge her.
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>>183119774
By being new to fighting games?
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>>183119921
>dodging Freeliza
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>>183119538
thats actually smash kids

and right now the game is full of new people/people from other games who can't deal with anything slightly gimmicky so when they lose to king throws or chainsaws or eddy or whatever else, they come here and bitch instead of learning how to defend/punish shit thats been in the game for years

they aren't "tekken players", they're scrubs who are gonna drop the game by the end of summer, it happens with every new game nowadays
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FUCK SAKES FIX THE INPUT LAG IN PS4 IT'S STILL UNBEARABLE COMPARED TO PC
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>>183119954
You're acting dense on purpose or what
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>>183119787
>>183120029
>These guys aren't Tekken players
Alright fair enough.
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>>183119885
>Duck
Is that possible after he's started one of his full bar combos?
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>>183120134
Or what?
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>>183120029
So much this.

I've called out so much fucking smash players in these threads who circle jerk on frame data and still wonder why they're getting fucked up.
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>>183118749
false. theres nothing wrong with using the trainer.
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>>183120071
>buying the console release
>ever
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>>183120071
it's even worse if you play on a pro
literally 1 more god damn frame of lag than on PS4
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>>183119960
B-But she knocked many down to losers
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so this.........is the power....... of hopkick.......whoa
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>>183120029
that's a bad matchup for donkey kong
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>>183120357
>>183120376
I play on both but my casual friends play on PS4. And it's annoying having to adjust.

They're gonna fix it right?
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>>183120257
Frame data is a good thing to discuss tho as different players plan different strats on different advantages and disadvantages
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>>183120546
Yeah, of course. Do you think they'll let bad press continue from pros? Noodalls is pretty hopeful they can drastically lower the lag based on his latest findings.
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>play a Hwoarang
>armor move into full combo
>armor move into full combo
>hits me with that low-high launcher as soon as I get up
>rinse and repeat for 3 rounds
>he win quits
I just got shat on so hard. Lessons learned I guess
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>>183120357
>tournament standard
are you retarded? genuinly want to know cause no one can be this fucking dumb. even the niggers that live 2 towns over are smarter than you. Law/Alisa shitters are smarter than you
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>>183120691
Was it his backlash? You can duck those you know.
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>>183120694
>still shitting on Law and Alisa players

Go away shitter.
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>come back from 2 rounds down to win
>lay some balloons down after the match
>they losequit
>repeat for the next 5 opponents

lmao why ya'll acting like bitches
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>>183120029
Yeah ur right true tekken players never whined right. Nobody ever complained about double capos or T6 Bob or anything before.
Face the facts kid, some characters are just not fun to play against. I'm sorry your main gets thrown around all the time.
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>tfw you spend so much time practicing that all the combos and inputs turn to mush in your head
Guess it's time to take a break.
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So Im picking up Xiaoyu.

What's my gameplan? Coming from a rushdown character like Steve where I can eventually beat my opponent into submission how would go about the offensive with her.
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>>183120867
>he actually plays the characters that appeals to the retards of this community
are you going to tell me you want roger back too?
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>>183121070
Unga into bunga and if that doesn't work ongo into bongo should
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>>183120679
For some reason, smash players are so hyped up about frame data and then get mad when people try to tell them why they're losing because they have no neutral or whatever. If people actually talked about strategy instead of weaponizing the frame data charts, /tekgen/ would be a much better place.
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>>183120897
>items

I would smash your head if I knew you
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>>183120384
REMINDER that a literal who anime player who picked up the game for 2 (TWO) weeks beat one of the best Japanese tekken players by literally spamming this hopkick.
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>>183120384
havent seen this game with toaster settings, good lord. or is that just ps4?
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>>183120694
>>tournament standard
how to know when someones a fuckwit
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>>183121642
dont bully my 750ti
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>>183118053
>tfw when you run a nice set against someone in ranked and then they add you on friends and say ggs
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>>183121384
Tanukana is a fraud who got carried by Xiaoyu.
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>>183121296
Nigger, I don't even play those characters. How about getting good instead of complaining about characters that have existed for years.
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I wanna learn Violet, coming from Steve and Claudio

What should I start with?
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>>183121760
youd lose to tanukana 10-0
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>>183121885
His buttons.
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>>183121384
2d player casually playing Tekken > Tekken Prime God Woman
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>>183120907
>pro players complaining about T6 bob is the same as day 1 shitters that cant break throws bitching on 4san
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>>183121885
Learn to mist step cancel.
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>>183121756
the only two friend requests were from people I thought I was going to send me hate. Since I play King. Both of them said GGs good King player. One even gave me a shitload of advice and told me to look for him at evo. Good guy.
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>>183121379
*shoots (You)*
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>>183122052
>>183121756
>not just blocking everyone who tries to add you
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>>183121904

He's right though. If you lost to a New player spamming hopkicks in pools, you really are a fraud. I'd understand if she never took a round against Saint in Top 8, but this is just embarrassing.
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I love seeing Rip absolutely troll people online
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>>183118749
>>183120273

so uhhh... which one is it?
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>>183120840
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. My problem was just rushing to get up, so he'd just run up and smack me with that as soon as I got up. The armor move was fucking me too. He'd whiff on purpose and then do the armor as soon as I went to punish. And I kept fucking falling for it like an idiot because my brain is programmed to punish as soon as they whiff. Overall it was an awful match for me
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>>183122225
>>183121760
rumor is she was too fucked up from the night before
her and some other sluts got drunk off the sake and went around flashing people
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>>183118053
>get matched with my most hated characters: King and Hwoarang
>play multiple sets going over 3 hours
>receive ggs and tips on how to improve my play after everything's done

Remember not to judge players based on their character choice.
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>>183122363
Can confirm; I fucked her.
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>>183122225
yeah i guess dude its impossible to have a bad run at a tournament and still be good at the game. you better also list all the other frauds who also lost in pools to non pros or else youre as shit tier as this guy >>183122363
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Hey Lord Thread thanks for the donaysh really appreciate it thanks and uh keep it down will you? Put down the butthash and start being funny you stoners. Who said that? How do you punish drag- hey shut the fuck up I'll answer that after the match thanks for the dollarydoos really appreciate it. AAAH AAAHH OOOH DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT? That was sick, this is game sick. Be cool be cool composure composure
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>>183122225
There is no shame in losing to a Zato player. And if you think he was just randomly mashing hopkick you are mistaken, he was obviously trolling the Tekken community on Twitter.
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>>183121384
Trying to play normally against a masher has fucked me up more then once. They follow there own Laws(pun intended) and rules. Then again I'm a scrub greenrank so what the fuck do I know
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About a week ago I hit Vindicator with Gigas and now I'm stalling. It turns out you need a brain to win with this character. If I just want to stop thinking and get wins, which character best accomplishes this?
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>>183122401
>get matched with my most hated character: Leo
>play a few sets
>receive teabags and ki-charges
>get demoted

i hate them
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>>183122519
i love arisposting
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Does anyone have the full T7 OST?

The one I got is about 40something tracks long, but if you look it up on youtube or something, you can find playlists that have 60+ tracks, all of which are from the game.

Is the one that is 60+ tracks the console OST while the 40 one is the cabinet version? Like the one I have is missing the Mishima Building tracks ("Electrified").
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Leo or Josie?
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>>183118053
I don't get how people get so worked up about losing. This is how you should play. Dodging and winquitting is for actual manchildren
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>>183122509

>you better also list all the other frauds who also lost in pools to non pros

Dumbest defense of this shit show yet. The GG player who beat her played on stream, and you could see how new he was to the game. I'm sorry you can't accept the fact that your imaginary girlfriend isn't as good as people claim her to be. The fact that she doesn't have fundamental defense against a common move says alot.

Kill yourself fag.
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>>183122990
>T7 OST
>wanting that shit infesting your HD
You dun goofed. WUB WUB WUBBB.
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>>183123349
leo
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>>183122687

Hwoarang
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>>183123507
youre a nobody and a bad poster thats pretty much it too bad theres not a training mode to help you improve those lmao get shrekt
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>>183123508
Listen, a lot of it can be shitty, but I do enjoy the most of it.

Also, I am a t7 scrub. I never really played tekken outside of casuals here or there over the years, T7 is my starting point, really. I know lots of people say the older game OSTs are good; and maybe they are, but I still want the T7 full OST.
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>Play a marauder king
>actually start ducking strings and throws
>win

Man this improving thing feels pretty good
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>>183123729
do you smoke weed?
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>>183123729

>Calling someone on an imageboard a nobody.

Hello r/kappa.
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>>183123857
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>>183124014
no just you

>>183124040
idk what that is
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>>183124120
do you know the best strains to get?
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>>183122687
Paul
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>>183122705
so weird to see low tier fraud laughing and having a good time
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>>183121070
I legit wanted an answer to this
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>>183124309
Unga bunga is your answer seriously
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>>183124309
Answer is pick somebody other than her.
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>>183121070
Knock them down and 50/50 them. Whiff punish with f4? I think so get a quick knockdown to start your game.
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>>183123949
that King beefed it. Once I see my opponent getting scared of my grabs and ducking I start throwing out dem hopkicks and doing the crouch grab variation of my strings.
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>>183123512
Does Leo have a stronger wall game compare to Josie? I feel like that's where I'm lacking at with my current main.
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>>183124309
do alot of moves and a combo when you can
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>>183124283
the power of based billion william
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>>183124496
Hey dude let me be happy about something I'm not Genbu
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>>183124120

You should go back.
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>>183121384
is dragonov the fastest character in the game or what? I can't do shit against him he controls the round the whole time
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>>183122705
Secret lunchbox tech
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>>183124506
Leo's wall game is top 5 along with Bryan Paul Heihachi and Dragunov
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>>183124570
sorry
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>>183124309
dont come here to learn lmao
we shitpost
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>>183124653
Got any staple moves and a quick rundown on them? I know there's a top 15 list I'm looking at right now, but you got any more?
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>That feeling when going to pick this game up just to turtle the fuck out with jump back airballs and poking with based loose goose.

Who here plays fighters online not to have fun, but to consume the fun of others?
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>>183124596
shut the fuck up bitch
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>>183122360
if you know the other player is antsy and buttons-y, you're better off staying on the ground until they whiff something big on top of you, or hit you with something so you can immediately get up (having taken some damage).

for example, you mention he hit you with a low-high launcher. the only ones he has a counter hit combos, so either you pressed something on wake up or you were neutral blocking, but either way, you could have taken the low hit on the ground, tech rolled up, and taken your turn or even punished the high attack of the string.
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>>183124703
no harm done friend
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>>183124309
back 1 constantly
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>>183124425
look man I'm on your side, I don't like this bitch either but I'm taking the initiative. I gotta know my enemy to beat my enemy
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>>183122687
xiaoyu
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>>183124857

Seriously, you don't belong here.
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>>183125237
seriously shut the fuck up bitch
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>>183124763
I don't play Leo but at the all but at the wall she has a unseeable knocdown low. The animation is she takes a knee and hit u with both hands

FC df3 is a sweep that knocksdown and gives a free one at the wall. U can do a dirty 50/50 with this and her orbital which hits grounded

U can do bok3 which is a high homing and is +9 on block so they have to take a mixup

U can splat with ff1+2 throw

Her df3 and qcf3+4 are both safe homing mids that wallsplat

U can do db1+2,1+2 I think it is shenanigans the animation is like fusion in dbz. So like db1+2, db1+2, db1+2 db1+2,1+2 w!

If they low get up kick and u block it her 11f ws punish also splats (ws4,1+2)

Mix these all up and it's over for your opponent
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which one of these cuties should i lab today?
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does anyone else find that if you reject enough people in warm up mode it just stops pairing you?
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Is 58 really the highest damage you can get off of Bryans f3 CH?
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>>183125237
>>183124596
Your reddit spacing seems to indicate you belong here even less.
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>>183125374
kicks if you wan't to always press buttons

punches if you want ch satisfaction
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>tfw on an 11 game win streak
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>>183125541
Nevermind, I just got one that does 63
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>>183125673
Looks like my average opponent's score card. My version is the black medal variation of that.
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I love Akuma.
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>>183125625
i'm not playing online though. i'm labbing for locals.
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>>183125541
>>183125680

?
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>>183124083
4 had the best. Most of 1-3 is actually pretty shit.
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>play against x-character
>have a good strat against y-move player likes to use
>get winquitted
>play some more against x-character
>average out that y-move is a pretty popular move for ez hits
>next fight is x-character
>player does some ungodly amounts of variation and things I never seen anyone using x-character do
>revenge match 3 loses in a row
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Do u Bryan players use n4 aka magic 4?
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I just noticed I'm bleeding from my knuckles after practicing OTGF. Heihachi's hard work
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>>183125215
Stay salty
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>>183125586

>Using words out of context because you saw someone else post it in the 3 weeks since you came here.

Nice job exposing yourself, faggot.
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Welp, there goes the win streak. What character should I play now?
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>>183126564
someone else said hwoarang its only fair
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What should I go for after making the opponent wall splat as Heihachi? I tend to mess up when I get to the wall
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>>183126571
haha that was me just baiting for another (you) man youre too easy just get outta here
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>>183126421

Yes, but it's extremely hard to convert into a combo off of. You need to like, microdash a jab or some shit to juggle it.
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>>183126673
Just go for 1+2 and setup oki.
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>>183126673
CD4,4,4,n+4 or CD4,4,n+4,4
df+1,1, 1+2
1, d+4 (stomp)
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>>183126685

Yes, that's what I meant by exposing yourself, you retard. Here's another (You) for you, reddit poster.
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>tfw still struggling; but learning something new everyday and slowly improving.

im gunna make it boys.

expect my claudio in 2 years, just you wait.
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>>183126421
The easy way is, instead of doing just 4, go with 4,3. that way after getting a CH 4,3 you can connect it with a 4,3,4 S! into full combo ender easily.
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>>183126421
yes. it's a good keep out tool and frame trap for him. the conversion from raw magic 4 is tricky, but CH 4,3 or CH 4,3,4 is really easy and similar damage unless you optimize the CH 4 combo, which is i think 8 point difference in open ground?
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>>183126872
actually youre the retard but im not surprised that you cant figure that out
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>>183126673

1, d4.
cd4,4,4,ws4
df11, 1+2 (Doesn't work against bears and most females).
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>>183126887

I believe in you.
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>>183126673
cd4, 4, ws4, qcf2 if you want max damage.
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>>183126887
hate to break it to you but claudio doesn't have enough material to learn him for 2 years

fuck it took me basically 30 hours or so to learn the whole character in and out, there's literally no new info you could possibly give me that i would not have already discovered or experimented with using claudio

this does mean you get to use a boring-ass character for 2 years until you perfect that f+3 input and ss cc fakeouts
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>>183126770
>>183126797
>>183127232
Alright, I'll keep these in mind
Thanks bros
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>>183127327
>>183127041 as well, I messed up
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>>183127269
isnt this like a good thing because then you can just focus on being effective (ie playing the game) with his very basic but effective tool set?
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>>183127269
You're full of shit
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>>183127269
eh, im new to fighters, itll take me more than 30 hours to get somewhat competent with claudio; or anyone for that matter, i think. I like the character, I dont mind if hes simple.

I was planning on having kaz as a second main once i get more comfortable. I can always switch to him if i get bored.
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>>183127532
Pretty much. More to Tekken than just learning your own character anyway.
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Fighting Law seriously makes me wanna kill myself, what do I do when he goes full unga?
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>>183111658
thanks, anon. i've been told bryan was defensive so i'm glad to hear someone say he should be played aggressively.
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>>183127679
Low parry
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>>183127724
Go crazy on the low sweeping kick to get them ducking.
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>>183127679
block bullshit then throw out i10 2hit string and then do something after to catch them mashing while youre at frame advantage and also do >>183127760 sometimes and then also learn how to make them whiff simply by moving around and punish for large damage
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>>183127327

You can catch people with f4, d4 stomp aswell if they don't quick rise block low. If they do block the stomp, you can go for a risky f4, df1,2 for another wallsplat. The possibilities are endless
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>you can get shadowbanned for using the trainer
why wasnt i warned???
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>>183128156
Are you retarded?
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Why is tekken notation such trash?
I mean sure it's not GG-tier bad but shit, surely there's a better way.
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>>183128156
why do you even need a trainer when all you need is turbo and katarinas leg
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>>183128425

Only thing bad about Tekken notations is the WR/WS shenanigans.
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>>183128425
Why do you have a problem with a notation that has been the same for 23 years. Just learn it. That's like complaining about English.
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>>183128431
and 40 hours
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>>183128513
>it's old and therefore cannot be bad
I have learned it, I just hate it.
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Is there anything Jin can't parry?
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>>183126159
Yea, that's the one. I was going off of the video in the OP originally and that combo only did 58-59. Also, mind if I ask a few questions? What do I do after a CH4 and a sweep CH off the ground? I can't figure it out with Bryan
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>ctrl-f "Feng"
>0 results
Shit thread so far
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I think I've pissed off jim
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>>183128663
No, I didn't say it's not bad. But that's like complaining about a language you can speak. Just replace English if you hate speaking it then.
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>>183128740
no thats goku dick
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>>183117405
Yes
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>>183128740
>Up 2 rounds and a significant life lead
>Mad
???
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>>183127532
ehhh not really
i can't deny that claudio's tools are effective at what they do, but that also means that you don't really have anything to surprise your opponent

f+3 is super solid, but it's still -9, and it's still super whiff-punishable, and you have no alternative mid poke that may have shorter range but isn't as easily whiff-punishable, for example

the limitations claudio has (weak mixup potential because of incosequential lows mainly) make him very straightforward in terms of his gameplan, but leave little room to experiment and surprise your opponent.
the ss4/ss mid mixup is functional and simple, there's no surprise there. there's no low launchers, there's no huge ch setups, everything is nice and normal and tame and you're gonna feel that once you get into a situation where you're down 60% life because of a mistake early in the round and need to literally hit your opponent 5-7 times with your lows just to equalize and put them in a situation where they would start bothering to even block them.
you also generally have no oki off of the usual kncockdown situations unless you're willing to sacrifice combo enders for it, and even then your wakeup pressure is still tame and not that rewarding.

if you enjoy chipping your opponent down with a constant barrage of quick lows and mids, claudio's not your character.
if you enjoy having big booty mid ch buttons that go into 60+ damage combos, claudio's not your char.
if you enjoy having risky high-impact 50/50s, claudio's not your char.
if you enjoy knocking your opponent down and staying on them and not letting them breathe, still not your character.

claudio's only effective gameplan is to stay at range 1-2 and keep the opponent out with f+3 and the threat of whiffpunishes with the hopkick. that's what he excels at, and there's nothing else he's good at whatsoever. even the godlike stb f+1+2,1+2 still fulfills the same purpose, and the other stb tools are pretty mediocre at what they do.
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>>183118053
The only true way to play.

Speaking of rematching, how fucking long is it going to take for this PC patch to come out?
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why can't i get King's Boston Crab to come out? i have no fucking clue what the timing on this is, i watched the demo and i obviously have to delay the input a little but no matter how much i delay it, i can't get it
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>Character is broken

>It hasn't topped EVO
>JDCR has not commented on it


Lads I think you might be shit.
It's like being a shitter at magic the gathering asking for bans when pros are like "it's shit/balanced"
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>>183128961
nevermind im retarded
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>>183129096
Shut up. Stupid post.
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>>183128710

>CH4.

That's called a magic 4. Converting off of it is really fucking hard. You have to dash jab. Might take a long time to practice.

>sweep CH

Do you mean his qcb+3? The low soccer kick? You can't a full combo off of it anymore since console release, it got nerfed so the animation doesn't allow a full juggle. qcb+4 is guaranteed after it though. However, I did see a Korea streamer convert the ch qcb+3 with a SSL, dash db2 on Kuma, but I never managed to replicate it.
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>>183129096
Am I secretly hated when I go online with Eliza?
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Ok /tekgen/, show me your best and/or cutest character customization loadouts.

Let's see that creativity at work.
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>>183128740

I may have a suspicion this might've been the reason
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>>183129096
>Jace
>Skullclamp
>Wizards recently banned card in Standard the pros thought was 'fine'

Not the best choice.
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>>183129163
I'll have to practice that first one then, thanks. And no, I mean like when you're on the ground and hit 3 and sweep them. I'm not sure if theres a name for it to be honest
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>>183129360
>He definitely won't just stand there and wait for me to lunge at him right?
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What's the best way to go about making my own combos? What should I be looking for in movies to determine how well they will chain (if at all)?
Is there anything in frame data or other resources that offers insight into this, or is it just working things out "by feel" on training? Or are both of these wrong and I'm looking at this wrong entirely?
I want to get started with this but I've got no clue where to begin.
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>>183129416

Ah, that's what you mean. After the sweep, do db2, 1, ff4 to get a screw.
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>>183129490
Get the person into the air.
Browse your move list for anything with a green twirl in it. Which is your combo extender.
Find combinations of buttons you can press before going into one of them.
Dash forward and find more button combinations that give you a benefit once you finish.
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How should I best use fengs rage drive? Are there any combos I can use it in other than the basic combo finishers? Or should I use it stand alone?
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>>183129490

If you insist on learning your own combos, you'd have to do alot of experimenting.
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>>183129360
Oh my god I swear some people are fucking retarded online

When I was in Vanguard I think I did this shit against at least 10 people
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What is Gigas good at doing?

How should I play this character?
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>>183129360
Did you go for the throws because you felt it was reliable, or because it was truly the best thing to throw out in that situation?
Also, tiger finish is the best way to end any round.
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>>183129416
>>183129618

Sorry, I think you'll have to crouch cancel to land the db2. Just tap up to crouch cancel, and then do the next input really fast.

Good luck.
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>>183119256
>throw scrubs all day until they start breaking them
>body them with fundamentals
welcome to school bitch
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>>183129192
Most people don't keep it a secret in player matches when I play her.
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>>183128898
>f+3 is super solid, but it's still -9, and it's still super whiff-punishable, and you have no alternative mid poke
dont sleep on b+3 just because it doesnt extend as far

also i mean i agree with you on that claudios not super explosive but a lot of high level tekken matches have the damage come from the accumulated hits in the neutral. look at jdcr when he plays dragunov and how many of his exchanges go. i dont want to get into how dragunov has better opportunity for damage or insane wall carry because thats getting away from my point about just playing solid neutral which claudio is basically built for
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>>183129490
Launcher > Filler > Tailspin/Screw > Ender
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>>183129860

I don't actually know the best punish for it, been always using a grab in that situation. I would expect the ff4 launcher to move me forward and make me get hit by the jump.
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>>183128156
What's shadow banned?
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>>183129837
He punches kinda far, he also has a really good ass
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>>183130130
That throw does some real damage sure, so some basic strings probably wouldn't do any better damage. I would assume that with proper timing you could tiger uppercut that for styling.
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Jesus Christ I fucking suck at this game. Fucking 200 hours in it and i can literally only play Bob
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>>183130130
if you're on point you can hopkick punish it or even get tiger uppercut.
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>>183130509
good choice. bob is a cool lad.
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>>183128156
Is it for real?

Are there actual bans in place? Is so THANK YOU HARADA
>>
Bryan is a perfect blend of offense and defense
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Do I seriously have to play dragunov or some other fucking unga character to get any God damn wins on this game? God forbid I pick someone that isn't fucking unga to the extreme
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>>183129618
>>183129902
Thanks man
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>>183130969
If you want easy wins and rank that you don't deserve.
You gotta learn how to play the game eventually, might as well do it now rather than later.
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when a command says "Approach enemy", what does that mean? because i can do these commands from neutral without a forward input at all. i'm not quite getting what it means
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>>183130969
drag is the only viable character. Good luck getting out of blue with literally anyone else it's mathematically impossible and nobody has ever done it.
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>>183131115
They are throws, do 'em up close and personal.
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Is there something like short, damage efficient combos theory, where you're not far from the wall making your regular long extended juggles worthless?

what's the deal with juggles when youre not far from a wall?
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>>183131115
it means you reach further for the grab but also have more recovery frames, I think.
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>>183131115
if you press 1+3 your character stands there and grabs. If you press forward and 1+3 then your character lunges forward while grabbing.
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>>183130969
the low ranks is just as many buttons as possible constantly

your two routes are either being patient and learning why all their buttons are actually horrific decisions or you can just throw buttons at them and run them over for having equally bad defense
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Is Raven high IQ?
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I can't react to shit in this game.
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>>183132253
Yes.
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>>183132253

Yes
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Which characters are good for learning how to combo? I'm pretty bad at it and I struggle to do any real combos.
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literally what the fuck do i do as jack
the enemy hero just runs me over
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>>183132408
feed couriers down middle lane
>>
I'm new but I've been practicing fundamentals for at least 5 hours a day everyday for two weeks. Now I just won 9 matches in a row and only lost a total of three rounds in those matches.

This is the best feeling in the world. Prepare your anuses, I'm coming. Also please stop mashing buttons at me you mongoloids.
>>
Tfw playing DJ
Tfw 0 wins
Tfw 8 loses straight on my card
Tfw no one gives me a run back

Lmao
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>>183132478
team rata jjjjjjjj
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>>183132408
do what saint does but don't do what saint does against JDCR
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>>183132397
You'll struggle with any character. Just grind it, you'll get it eventually and then realize that juggle combos are the easiest thing about this game.
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>>183132408
pick a new character. jack is a garbage character, especially online.

if you are gonna be difficult abuse db1 and df1. use ff1 and ff1+2 to whiff punish.

>>183130724
no. and fuck you for thinking unlocking cosmetics is bad lol.
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>>183130969
Even though we meme about characters, anyone can get to any rank using whatever. There are red rank+ Gigas players out there. The only difference is how fast it takes. You can pick Kat or Eddy and unga your way up to orange ranks in a few days. but once you get there you're gonna get exposed hard for being the fraud that you are. I see plenty of Leo, Drag and Xaioyu players with like 600wins stuck in yellow ranks. You really do have to actually learn to play the game regardless of who you pick. A character can only carry you so far.
>>
>>183131235
>>183131256
>>183131259
oh okay, thanks
>>
How do I git gud as yoshimitsu
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>reach brawler as chloe with 64 wins
I swear to god I'm trash at this game. My promotion to brawler got denied twice and my friend reached brawler with 40+ wins only.
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>>183132991
just dont stop thinking in tangible ways
every game where your brain is just shut off and youre not caring about all the stuff that you see that you dont really know is wasted time
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>>183132991
chill m8
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>>183132991
Be happier. I made it at ~90
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are mishima players mishima players because they hate their dads?
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How am I suppose to learn a character? It seems like with everyone but Jack it is way to hard to learn them and they are too complex
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>>183116827
joe pesci
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>>183133742

NO
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>>183132991
Brawler in under 100 wins is decent (if you are new to tekken). I've seen multiple 500+ wins brawlers in ranked.
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>>183133887
let it out f a m, we're here for you
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>>183132578
Alright I'll try grind it out. Thanks.
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>>183133742
yes and no
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jack fuicking sucks what the fuck
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That's it I'm done with Feng i can't take this shit anymore. You can only rely on whiff punishing with him and I can't do it. Against even the slightest of aggressive opponents you can't do Jack shit thanks to literally every single one of his moves taking fucking forever to hit. Fuck this shit.
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>>183134703
Nice blog
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>making your male character tan, greased, and half naked
I don't get it. Is it supposed to be funny or are you actually homosexual?
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>>183134697
t.kyu Jack
>>183134703
t. kyu Feng
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>>183135054
t. Vanguard Feng tyvm
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how do you avoid Paul's second elbow thing when he ends a combo with it?
Like when he does it and you're on the ground. I don't know what it's called but a Paul was ending it with a combo, then delaying it
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>tfw the only thing on Youtube about how to play your character is the generic "Training Room Only Optimized Combos" video
>Literally every other result is six thousand years worth of video on how to absolutely demolish and punish everything you do.
>All the people who played her at EVO got fucking bodied within seconds
If she wasn't so fucking fun to play, I'd drop Eliza for Dragonuv and be done with it.
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rude i am actually blue ranks
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is it tournament legal to bind buttons to the triggers on a pad? I just don't want to develop any habits and then go to play somewhere one day and get fucked
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Slowmo finishes are the best
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>>183135719
it's legal
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>>183118886
Hey I remember you. You started dodging me after I discovered that I can still slash kick you in the face after blocking Kazumi's tiger
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>>183135719
use your baby bind crutch
you dont see jdcr using triggers on his pad
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>>183136404
that's probably because jdcr uses a stick
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who's got the worst gimmicks in the game
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>>183135149
All the people that played her at Evo bodied everyone. Unfortunately, none of them were streamed. Check out Rip's "Hitting the Lab with Eliza" video if you haven't already. There's also a google doc with frame data and another one that could help you figure out how to play her. I don't have them right now but someone here should.
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>>183136481
no the big controllers with the big buttons are pads and the controllers with dual thumb sticks (hence the term sticks) are called sticks
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>>183136543
Stupid fucking Bears
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>>183136593
You're a literal retard.
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>>183136593
are you trying to troll are or are you retarded?

trick question, no matter what the answer is you're retarded
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>>183136669
>>183136679
not as retarded as the kids that reply to this shit lmao
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what's kazuya's best wall splat combo?
d/f+3,2,1?
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>>183136767
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>>183136767
You need to go back.
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>>183136404
probably because on a stick you can use two fingers to easily hit two buttons at a time

whereas on a pad, unless you have giant mongoloid thumbs, you can't
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I don't think DJ is for me boys even tho I play kazuya
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>>183136857
its good you have that because you need it

>>183136871
you have to shut the fuck up bitch

>>183136883
just pretend your stick is actually just a tiny pad and use your finger tips for the buttons
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>>183136776
ws4, d/f+1,4, 1+2
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>>183136995
You need to go back.
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>>183136543
>10 frame tailspin
>some of the best punishers in the game
>plethora of low launchers to initiate her 70 year long strings
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>>183137137
you need to shut the fuck up bitch
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>>183137183
don't forget my favorite
>full screen 50/50 dash between a low and a launcher
>the low isn't launch punishable
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>>183137251
You need to go back.
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>>183136995
feels disgustingly unnatural

if its legal whats wrong with it?
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>>183137183
Why am I aroused by feet
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>>183137289
you gotta shut the fuck up bitch
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>>183137269
>>the low isn't launch punishable
Why would it be? It doesn't launch
>>full screen 50/50 dash
Did you try sidestepping?
>>183137183
She has zero non ch low launchers tho
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crppling autism
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>>183137312
>if its legal whats wrong with it?
nothing, if you couldn't tell that anon is a retard

>>183137328
go to bed uui
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>>183137384
annnd heres the Josie apologist
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>>183137356
You gotta go back.
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>>183137442
you got to shut the fuck up bitch
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>>183137439
I'm merely correcting your misinformation
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>>183137489
You got to go back.
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>>183137183
she has a low launcher?
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>>183137384
Josie is the ultimate scrub killer
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>>183137557
you need to shut the fuck up bitch
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>>183137667
Please go back
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>>183137736
please shut the fuck up bitch
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>>183137563
Don't talk to me
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>>183137773
Go back
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>>183137848
shut the fuck up bitch
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We are reaching dangerous levels of autism
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>>183133825
please respond
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>>183138153
Watch other top players play the character you want to learn. ex. watch JDCR or Nobi if you want to learn Dragunov.
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>>183138098
It is the fate of every general on /vg/ after all
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>>183133825
>>183138153
just be patient

how many hours have you been playing?
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WHY ARE TOURNAMENTS SO BROKEN STILL, FIX YOUR FUCKING SHIT HARADA
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>>183138423
Tournaments will never be good. People with shit connections always join
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>>183138423
the only time tournaments were fun were during the first week when it was the only way to play online
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>>183133825
>>183138153
Pick a character who's style/aesthetics are to your liking. Keep playing them, watch youtube videos on guides on how to play said character, and of pros playing said character. Be aware of their better moves and learn which moves to just never bother with.

The most important part is to just keep playing them. Most likely you're new to fighting games so it's not like you can pull out 100% of your character's potential out anyways, so there is no real reason to get hung up on character tiers. You can pick a 'high tier' character and win a chunk of matches with their really good moves only to run into someone who knows what they're doing, who will then promptly stomp you into the ground because their fundamentals are just better.

Just, uh, don't pick Yoshimitsu. He is the anti-thesis of 'beginner friendly character,' down to his ridiculous amount of stances and ability to damage himself with multiple moves.

tl;dr just get anyone besides the octopus guy and play. If you don't like them, try someone else. There is a character for everyone in T7.
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FUCK the extra free combo you get hit with when you fall through a floor or a wall or some shit
every stage should have no walls
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>>183131242
What the fuck is thaf
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>Lucky Chloe players
>Law players
>Yoshimitsu players
>King players

Too many of them are hyper salty
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>>183138476
Not just that, but people always quit when they lose and freeze the whole thing up
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ok ok we know that tekken 7 did much better in the west than namco thought, assassin creed, dark vader, yoda and etc. have been in soul calibur. so there's a precedent. who fits from the current western games? and who would you like?

perhaps geralt?
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>>183139149
the game is already dying what are you talking about mate
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>>183139149
2b
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>>183139109
To be fair, it's a waste of everyones' time if they place less than 3rd to stick around. Literally anything is more productive than staying in the tournament if you've been eliminated early.
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>>183139149
Batman from Arkham Asylum
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>>183139105
i can imagine lucky chloe players being like 'i'm going to pick this anime girl with big damage and make people sooo salty..(later)..fuck! fuck you chloe! i can't win for shit! you suck! more like fucky chloe, you whore, i'm switching to alisa."
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>>183139280
what does this even mean all that matters in doing good is how many copies they sold + season passes so what are you talking about mate
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>>183138301
>how many hours have you been playing?

33. Most of it was spent in practice try to learn a character. Went with Jack. Only had three ranked wins out of 15. I guess I should be trying to get better with Jack but I decided to try learning a character who was a bit more aggressive play style, so I went with Lars. Having to memorize how to get into his various stances is a pain
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>>183139305
Then don't join a tournament? It's well known by now it freezes when you quit. You're a faggot if you still quit knowing that
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Is there a Tekken version of this meme?
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Can someone please explain why nobody plays Kaz at the top level? I'm new and although I see some issues with his kit he seems pretty solid and has some much better than average rewards on certain scenarios
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>>183139676
i could draw you one if you like, name a character
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>>183139836
Asuka
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>>183139719
He's limited, he's got his EWGF and that's it
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Xiaoyu is so much easier to use than raven. It's a struggle not to just go back to ling.
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>>183139719
He has no low crush launcher
His i10-i15 moves are not good
His tracking is not good u must wavedash correctly for oki to realign
Your execution for electrics must be on point

He's just too much work for little reward
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>>183139624
I'm just saying, man. Even assuming that's the dude isn't a notorious faggot, his choices are A) Stay, and spend who knows how long NOT playing the game or B) Just fucking bounce and go back to business.

I mean, there is going to be some salt involved, but until shit gets fixed or people have a reason to stay, there is going to be some faggot who just wants to play the game. It just so happens he breaks shit on the way out, regardless of his reason for leaving.

Tournaments are fucked, really. Which is a shame, because a good tournament run feels fantastic. Chatting with the other spectators is some fun shit, too.
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>>183139836
>>183139893
That wasn't me, do Lucky Chloe
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guys I'm scared...I was replaying TTT2 today and I noticed Jaycee and Josie share a few moves. It doesn't make me feel very confident that Julia/Jaycee is ever coming back.

Played some Ganryu too. Forgot how fun he was. DOSUKOOOIII!!
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What mental and psychological training do I need to get good and not fold under pressure? I know all the fundamentals but my brain locks up at the slightest pressure.
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>>183139518
lol dude don't expect to win at all before 100 hours
This was my first tekken and fighting game and I was garbage for a really long time too

I would get your characters best move from the link in the OP, then go to the frame data link and work in some of the quicker punishers and launchers, then go on youtube and look up one good juggle. You don't need a million just perfect one and learn a bunch of different launchers that lead to it. I have a feeling you're just using random moves that probably aren't good
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>>183140219
I get what you're saying, but my point is if they're someone who's impatient and doesn't want to wait around, don't join a tournament in the first place
>Which is a shame, because a good tournament run feels fantastic
Agreed, which is why it sucks it's so broken. Fucking Harada
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>>183140345
More experience/practice.
The goal of mechanical playing like some sort of AI is ridiculous and beyond most. You practice not for perfection (but you still should try to reach for it), but so when you DO freak out under pressure, you freak out in a very specific and controlled manner instead going blank/mashing buttons.
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>>183139719
Because they're cowards.
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>>183140683
t. TMM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvlZyz1lCWk
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Are there any official height charts of the characters? Or at least the closest to being accurate? Just curious.
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who is the next returning character after Lei?
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>>183132952
Memes
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>tfw you finally find your main
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>>183141337
tekken wiki
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Guys I finally did it! I got out of blue, after getting my ass handed to me and then buckling down and practicing. Feels so good.
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Which character has no 50/50s and no low sweep?

I'm done playing Leo in yellow and the gender novelty - without proper customisation - got old fast
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>>183141726
Congrats anon!
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>>183141726
Congrats
Shame you're going back to blue in a couple of matches
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>>183141726
Now watch out for that salty demotion
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Is it normal for me to only be around Brawler at around 120 hours? I feel like I'm peaking.
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>it's an eddy shitter on a third world connection episode
Getting real tired of this one
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>>183140774
Why does TMM even try to shill him. Honestly until someone gets to match 3 against JDCR they shouldn't be allowed to shill a character.
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>>183142265
Eddy is top tier.

Let's see you go to match 3 round 5 against JDCR.
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>>183140281
fuckin idiot im talkin to thinks sephiroth was in the little mermaid 2
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>>183139893
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>want to find out more about that green frog "kelot" in Tekken
>scroll through google images
>photos of crime scenes and murders in some South East Asia country

jesus
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Is there any particular combo-oriented character? There's nothing I've had more fun with in this game than practicing and refining execution of the flow combos offer. It's relaxing in practice and thrilling when put to use.
I know that obviously every character has their own sets of good combos and a wealth of hidden sequences waiting to be found, but I'm more wondering if there's any character that's made for them.
As an example, King's "gimmick" is throws. Every character has throws, but nobody throws like King.
Anyone can chain hits into combos, but is there anyone particularly exceptional at it?
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Literally can't get any better at this game. I'm approaching 200 hours with only one character at maurader and 3 at grand master and I can't do anything to get out of it. I go online and just get fucking fucked up over and over and over again by people of literally every rank and then I get tilted and do worse and I want to smash my fucking controller.
How do you guys do it? Going into practice mode and practicing strings enemies use does jack shit since I forget it by the time I go against them the next time and everyone fights completely different
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>>183143165
probably akuma unfortunately
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tfw maurader back to grand master, fucking kill me. lost 10 games in a row
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>>183142649
i wasn't actually the original guy, i lied
but thanks, saved
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>>183128691
crippling depression
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>>183143426
God damn it
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Oki tips for heihachi?
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>>183143523
Fighter to GM. I literally lost to a 2nd Dan Dragonov twice. Fuck me.
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How the fuck do you do Asuke's fff3 mid combo? Every time I try it I just get ff3
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anyone wanna fight? pc bois plss
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>>183143401
Save your fights with OBS if you're on PC

Look up your fastest and safest moves.
Look up in the videos you saved what moves people use and see what is unsafe.
Learn to punish
Don't press buttons without any reason
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>GM to Expert for 3rd time

hmm
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Who has the highest skill ceiling?
Who has the lowest?
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>>183143913
>>183143710
>>183143523

Wew lads, should have taken a break
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>try out a million characters
>only like a few of them
>also terrible at all of them
This is infuriating. The amount of time I've spent just fucking losing in this and practicing I'd already have hundreds of win in SFV
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>>183141726
>dragunov
>hard
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>>183144053
i know man, regrets
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>>183143671
either f+3 if you caught him crouching after waking up or d/b+2 if he's standing.

d/f+1,2 is a guaranteed hit after f+3 if you hit him while crouching.
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>>183143401
you dont move effectively and you probably just let people put you in blockstun for free

you get impatient and think you always need to score big damage

you make input mistakes

you cant break throws or block the predictable low

you dont wake up properly

you get hit by wakeup attacks because you think your combo that leaves you no oki actually puts you at an advantage because you knocked them down

you dont use all of your characters best moves, often completely omitting some

and on and on
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>>183144236
Who are you quoting?
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>>183144193
>wow fuck this game, why play something that takes dedication and practice when I can go play babbymode

I can agree to the first part though, not a lot of these characters are very likeable.
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>>183144295
Who are you quoting?
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Anyone got that pic of Ling in the skintone tights?
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>>183144053
I've never reached that high ranks, but whenever I come down hard, it's always one set against one person. And I'm not stopping set after a salty loss. Or ten.
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>Bryan mirror match
Let's see who can block the most snake edges
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>>183143985
With no regard to reward?

Highest would have to be Yoshi.

Lowest? Hard to say probably anyone who has
>no stance
>no sway
>High damage ez combo strings
They can have a wave dash but only if there are no just frames.
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>>183144053
I did take a break, there seems like there is noone on but the same 3 people that kick my ass

It's goddamn 4 in the afternoon
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>>183144714
>Not exclusively using taunt into jet upper combos

pleb match
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Anyone have any quick tips on helping to beat
>Josie
>Bryan
>Miguel
These seem to be who I face the most and it's usually 60/40 in their favor .
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>>183144868
>Josie
duck
>bryan
SSR and block snake edge
>miguel
stay out of his lows range
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Other than

4,3,4 ,Junkyard and WS4 are there any other moves of LAW that are worth DSS cancelling into?
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>>183144236
This is my first Tekken, I know next to nothing about people or meta games and so on outside of matchups I've practiced myself. Whats bad about Dragunov? He was the first character that "clicked" with me.
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If I'm knocked onto the ground or wallsplatted and they do their combo and it leaves me on the ground
How the fuck do I avoid shit like kazuyas hellsweep or or drags low punch thing?
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>>183145461
push up the d/b
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>>183145621
How many frames is the normal get up?
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Raven mains.
What is your go to combo off double ff3?
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>>183145403
There's nothing 'bad' about Dragunov. He's just a high tier character and you're always going to catch shit in any fighting game for playing one of those. And due to the results of the recently finished EVO tournament, you're just going to be considered a band wagon hopping memer even if you didn't watch EVO. Same if you play Jack; people are going to assume you're just a faggot out of the gate because Saint and several other pro players main Jack, even if all you wanted was to just play as a big robot guy.
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>>183145826
ff3, ff3, d/f 2, 4, ff3, 4, 1, (wall splat), 3+4, chakram
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>>183146031
*d/f 2, 3
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Watching Knee play Feng and he literally only uses a handful of moves, even less some rounds. Should I be playing like that? I'm assuming he's playing him the safest way possible
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>>183146137
I think Knee plays every character in a very generic way, online at least. You better look up some Feng specialists
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>>183146349
This one was him versus jdcr at some tournament. I'll try to find more stuff for tekken 7, I'm not sure which stuff would be good to watch though and what to avoid.
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>>183146137
In theory you should never use anything except your punishers (launch if possible) and safest pokes.
All your other moves are for when you're going unga or for combo filler.
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>>183145932
I just liked his aesthetic and his strings just feel comfortable. I didn't know playing a character was just bait to be called a shitter because of ACTUALLY liking the character and not just playing based off of Tier lists.
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>>183146515
Welcome to fighting games and their communities.
I play Eliza and Kazumi, and when I'm on a winstreak in my local group I go from my actual name to "Captain Waifu Fucker" before the set is finished.
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>>183146441
I was thinking of that when I was practicing punishing Asuka's launcher yesterday.
It was like "I know I have to practice how to do this, but I really shouldn't need to do this".
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>>183119921
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>>183146031
I can't hit the third ff3
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>>183147070
You gotta dash a bit.
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bryan's moves look so brutal and the damage matches. this character is great.
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>>183147017
That set was atrociously painful to watch as an Eliza main. I mean, it highlights Eliza's biggest problem, which is her distinct lack of 'ins.' She has to punish whiffs and take every inch she can scrounge up from her opponent's mistakes while reading the them like Madam fucking Cleo to make any headway. Unfortunately, Saint's fundamentals are bulletproof, so a character like Eliza who's bread and butter moves are all unsafe (excluding like, two) only gets eaten alive.
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>>183147431
he's hard to use though, he's a CH fisher.
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>>183147493
It was just Suiken being outclassed after getting carried too far by an unknown character.
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So do you really think ranks matter in Tekken?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edn9KpqyFsI&t
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>>183146767
>Captain Waifu Fucker
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>>183147590
yeah he's not super easy like bob or shaheen but he's the only character i've really been able to stick with so far, as a new player.

there's some great info on him in the character dump though, and on tekken zaibatsu that's making the learning process fairly painless so far.
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>tfw character loyalist or one trick pony depending on your point of view
>training partner keeps fucking switching mains when I start beating him
>not neet enough to learn another character

God i makes me mad. I finally get the download and he switches off to ANOTHER char he's been practicing
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>>183129678
Feng's is a panic move. Just use it if you feel pressured. It's also a combo extender because it always splats no matter how far from the wall you are. Lastly you can use it for chip damage by splatting them into the wall while they're blocking
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Will playing Jim make people respect me?
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>>183146421
i think there's lots of value is seeing the many ways a character can be played. knee plays super compact and risk-averse. his main way of getting damage and whiffs is just by jabs and movement. i think it's useful to see how knee moves with your character, compared to how a specialist like hao does, or how a jp feng like yuu moves or how an american feng like geesemaster or nyc fab does. i don't think you should avoid watching any high lvl player if you want to learn about your character in real depth.
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>>183140141
>His i10-i15 moves are not good
I just wanna mention 112 as good for any situation but you're right. God df1 and df4 suck as Kazuya
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>>183147867
Jin Parr into rage art.
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>>183147763
The best/worst part is that we have a Lucky Chloe player, but he doesn't catch nearly the same amount of shit I do.

Because he sucks
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>>183147431
same reason i picked him, i just finished yakuza 0 and Bryan's moves all feel like they have real weight behind them like Kiryu's.

>>183147590
you fish for big damage on CH but he also has good punishes even on things that aren't CH. bryan just has damage on deck.
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>>183147493
Don't forget he dropped combos multiple times when he had a chance to go for big damage. He didn't even do the staple wall combo. And that random WS3 at the start of a round, yeesh. I really think it was just nerves. I'm sure he's a good Eliza at a regular setting.
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>>183145932
Anakin and Saint get a free pass. Anakin was the only Jack player ever back in the BR days and Saint was the one who got hundreds of Jacks on the bandwagon
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>>183146767
do you dress your characters up in slutty outfits and use the "2d is all i need" tag and never skip your intros because it's fine if you do but my friends does that and it drives me fucking bananas
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>>183147651
Eh, one can only go so far with an unknown character. I do think he has the skill to make it to the top. Saint is just too good. 200won lost to Saint the same way and I'm sure they've played sets together.
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>>183147431
He feels so fucking slow to me. I tried for like a week to play him but I'm just not feeling it
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>>183147665
Of course they do, where else could I get my meaningless validation.
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>>183148173
>>183147651
What really surprised me was Saint's fucking knowledge of Eliza's kit. Dude went in on literally every punish opportunity he was given like he was reading a script. There can only be what, like six or seven pro level Eliza players out there? And I know for a fact that there is hardly any documentation on her besides raw frame data at this point. Yet he had Suiken's fucking number, like he had put hours against Eliza's moves despite her hardly having an existence in the playbase.

I guess that's the value of doing homework, since apparently Suiken was booting people to losers like it was his job.
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>>183148510
Bryan can move Sanic fast with taunt dashing but it's hard
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>>183148372
Does using the tank top jacket that shows the midriff and shorts with knee high boots count as slutty?
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>>183148510
he definitely feels unorthodox compared to other characters because he has these massive combos off of CH and just general punishes that shit out damage so you want to go fast, but then he also has a couple of long ranged pokes that are really nasty and make me think you have to play a more slow methodical game.

it's weird to get that burst of speed in mach kick but then also sometimes have a weird defensive game with him.
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so devil jin is the best mishima and heihachi and kazuya are about as good as each other right
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>>183148407
He beat Take, Dimeback and kkokkoma. That's never going to happen once they learn the matchup.
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>>183148719
DJ > Heihachi > Kazuya
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>>183148605
crazy dongpal is pretty good. the eliza doesn't have to be top level, but they just have to show what she's capable of so he can know what to look out for and how to play around her tools.
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what are eddy punishes on block?

asking for a friend
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>>183148719
Tier wise: DJ>Kaz>Hei
Practical setting: DJ>Hei>Kaz

I mean come on Kazuya must be watering at the mouth at all the mids Hei has and how Hei's gameplan forces everyone to eat db2s because who the fuck wants to duck against Hei
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>>183148372
No, I use the "I Need Sleep" tag with the fallen over dude as my badge. My Kazumi is blue and white, but otherwise default. My Eliza is black, white, and gold. I have a second Eliza costume that is that retarded purple w/ skulls lolita outfit, a purple masquerade mask, with purple hit effects and purple aura whenever it's time to maximize salt harvests.

I still skip intros though because I want to play the game. The guy who plays Lucky Chloe doesn't, though. Shit's annoying.
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>>183148510
this bothered me at first but i feel like whenever i get hands on someone they're eating a million damage off of just a few hits. bryan feels like marvel 2 juggernaut or pot or some shit where he only whacks you a few times and it's like you got hit by a freight train. no other character in the game does that.
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>>183148737
Did Suiken really only win based off the opponent's lack of matchup knowledge? Would be pretty disappointing for those Eliza mains who thought they would get to see a good player.
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>>183148896
>>>183148737
>DWould be pretty disappointing for those Eliza mains who thought they would get to see a good player.
That was the worst part of EVO, honestly. All the streamed matches I saw with Eliza had her getting BTFO. I learned a couple new combo fillers and starters, but fuck me I got maybe twenty seconds of new tech to look over in total. Feels bad, man.
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>>183148896
We didn't get to see him play on stream so who knows. He's been around for a long time and is a good player but he beat some of Japan's and Korea's best which is very unlikely if they know the matchup.
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Is he /ourguy/?
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Josie
Kuma
Jack

which is least gay to have as a secondary
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>>183149032
Watch crazy dongpal like >>183148810 mentioned or watch 200won. Suiken is a Lee main. No way should he be considered an Eliza player if he only played her for Evo. Doubt he will ever play her again once she is released for everyone else.
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I can already electric consistently, should I drop Kaz for DJ?
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>>183149060
I guess we'll see if it wasn't a fluke next time he enters a tournament.
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>>183149161
>waifu of easy punishes
>a fucking bear
>the bandwagon pusher
Go with Josie unless both your fundamentals and match up knowledge of the roster is extremely sharp. If they are, go with Jack.
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>>183149161
Kuma honestly
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PREDICTABO
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>>183149486
Dodged
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>>183149349
Only when you're done feeling the pain of Kazuya players everywhere
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>>183149486
AIVE BEHN WEIGHTIN FOH YEW!!!
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>>183149486
>can parry rage arts
I can already taste the salt
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BRING BACK JAYCEE!!!

King's face in this pic would be a good reaction image.
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>>183148876
paul. no one punches harder than paul.
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>>183148876
>he only whacks you a few times and it's like you got hit by a freight train. no other character in the game does that
Have you met my friend Paul Phoenix?
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>>183149162
I think you might be wrong. Looks like he's sticking with her based on his sponsorship photo on his Twitter.
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>>183149846
second place isn't bad.
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>>183149846
true but i feel like if i play paul i'll fall into the deathfist/demoman noob trap and won't get much better at the game.
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>>183149061
He got busted creeper-cam'ing Kayo at EVO so hard yes to that
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where does paul fall on the tier list? i don't see him played much at high levels.
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>>183149846
>>183149827
>tfw you get too greedy against a low health Paul and eat an in-rage counter hit Death Fist
I'm surprised I didn't start the next round at half health
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>>183150216
paul is braindead character i can't get mad at because of shit like that. i'm always amazed at how much paul just plays his game and doesn't care what anyone else thinks about it.
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does Jin have a 50/50 out of cd like the real mishimas?
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>>183150216
>>183150303
Paul like Rage Arts keeps people honest. No more unsafe button mash at the wall.
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>>183150380
ff3 and cd4
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>>183150389
not just that but his rage art is fun to watch, too.

it's weird how little i see him online with how simple he is. you'd think people would be all over him but i almost never see paul.
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>>183149736
I recognize that bulge
>>183150380
High-low is not 50/50 lmao
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>>183150389
>>183150516
if we think about grappler archtypes as being defined not by command grabs, but by insanely high damage applied through one big hit or by a relatively short combo, Paul is absolutely the grappler of Tekken.

or the big body.
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>>183149663
From the looks of it, he can only parry high moves.
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>>183150516
That's because people want waifus, edgelords, japanese dudes who shit lightning, and other quirky traits.

Paul just hits things. He hits them real good.
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Is Blue rank good?
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>>183150516
Ranked is like 40% Pauls for me, no joke
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>>183150676
>From the looks of it, he can only parry high moves.
Wow, Harada fucking hates Eliza.
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>>183149827
>>183149846
>>183150303
>>183150389
>>183150668
>>183150691
you guys have sold me on paul. outside of deathfist and demoman, what should i be doing with him as a newer player? there's not too many guides or videos for him online and he sounds exactly like the kind of character i want to get into.
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>>183150802
What does she have to do with this?
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>>183150561
>High-low is not 50/50 lmao
if it's too fast to react to, yes it is a 50/50
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>>183150925
Except ducking beats both highs and lows
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>>183150774
for real? i mostly run into a mix of jack, asuka, alisa, hwo, kat, drag, josie and maybe the occasional xiayou or steve. the few times i saw paul were at super early low ranks with people just doing deathfist, missing and getting blown up.

thought they all got weeded out.
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>>183150925
Just duck lmao, highs will whiff and lows get blocked.
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man, how do you improve your inputs on keyboard?
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>>183150676
>>183149663
in KoF he does a different parry depending on the button you use at the end of the command. So you gotta predict correctly can't just use it for every attack. he also has a super that is a parry. THAT one can parry anything.
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>>183150676
Nah, he parried WR2 and King's hopkick
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>>183151023
>>183150925
sorry, the mishima wavedash 50/50 is mid/low
hard to get used to saying mid/low instead of high/low
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>>183150873
A lot of Eliza's good moves are highs (2,2 and ff3,4 come to mind, plus the second hit of b1,2, one of her launchers), so a high parry robs her of more than a few tools.
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>>183150380
Yeah, ws2 and cd4. Don't recommend it though cd4 is a easier to block than HS
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Semi-new Tekken player here, started with TK6 then went back and beat all their stories. Been playing Tekken 7 since release and have drafted to some characters but the one I have been playing since TTT2 and onwards is Heihachi. I have good knowledge on him but I realize that I lose very often online despite having made it to True Tekken God offline.

My biggest problem online is my pride and feeling of inadequacy. When I lose I feel like absolute trash and that I can't improve at all. I often beat myself up too because of this. My second biggest problem is blocking lows when I don't know my opponent will throw at them.

What should I do to get better? Should I pick up another character? I feel comfortable on Heihachi but I just can't seem to win online at all.
>>183149486
Favorite character in Fatal Fury, so hype for him to come over Tekken 7.
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>>183150098
I mean it can't get much worse than hitting on "her" during commentary
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>>183150802
But Eliza is responsible for bringing life to the devs, twice.
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>>183150858
u/f 3,4 or is it 4,3 is really good at catching people of guard and is able to disrespect frames.


Other than that take a look at his top 15 moves over on drunkenhaze and start applying those.
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>>183151328
>despite having made it to True Tekken God offline
This better be pasta
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>>183151132
Doesn't mean he hates her. Just means you'll have to be more careful. Other characters can run into the same problem. Even more so if they make it where he can parry anything, provided the different inputs are done correctly.
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>>183151404
Explain, because this is news to me. I have no idea who Eliza is/was before T7
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>>183151482
It isn't a pasta. I wanted to be thorough with practicing Heihachi offline so I spammed treasure battle, I didn't really start having problems with the AI until I got to the "Ruler"-type ranks.

Nothing wrong with practicing offline, however I understand that the really good practice is online where everyone knows the basics and is gonna come at you full force.

I feel like offline didn't really do the job now that I think about it because the only thing I can kind of do well online is strings when I manage to get a combo started.
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>>183151571
>During development of Tekken 6, she was proposed as a character that used an actual martial art, but also with fireballs, like a 2D fighting game character.
However, aside from Harada, a strange phenomena occurred in which many members got married or gave birth to children around the same time. As a result, not many staff were left at work to complete the character, and she was discarded. The concept was salvaged again during Tekken 6 BR, but the same strange phenomena occurred again

http://tekken-revolution.bngames.net/chara/en.php
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>>183151650
playing vs cpu does almost nothing as far as getting better at the game
playing vs other humans is completely different
vs cpu is at best combopractice on a moving opponent but you learn this vs humans aswell.
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>>183149061
>>183150098
Is her really all I have if I wanna look at a good law player?
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>>183151761
Not anymore. He's switching characters. Last stream had him try out Jack.
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>>183151754
The only thing I've learned so far against human players is that blocking is essential, on lows especially. My problem is my reaction time is week and I can't read my opponent worth crap.

I feel like I just can't improve online, I get discouraged way to easily and I get hopeless when I just get 3 round KO.

How is it that players have such a thick skin when it comes to losing and getting better? in my case no matter what I've tried so far it isn't working.
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>>183151761
Good lord, no
Just search YT for koreans
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>>183151439
awesome thanks
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>>183151918
In my case, it's just a matter of having fun. If all I focused on was how bad I did, I would never improve. First and foremost, what's important to me is having fun playing and learning my character. Everything else just comes naturally. One of my more memorable moments in T7 was blocking Kazuya's jump spin sweep on reaction.
Whether I won or lost the game didn't matter to me. What mattered was that I became able to block something that used to give me so much trouble in Tag 2.
I also record my matches and go over them when I have free time, just to see how I played.
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How to remain calm and unfazed under pressure? Therapy? Breathing? Exercise?
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>>183152474
treat the other guy like shit. It helps
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>>183152286
I see I will keep that in mind. Have fun and improve, focus on the good.

On another note I've been talking to another friend on learning another character. He told me I'd like either Kazumi or Dragunov.

Dragunov looks kind of interesting to me and I already know Kazumi's story involvement so I might pick her up too. Which should I learn?

Or should I just focus on basic mechanics before learning another character?
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how to not get the urge of fapping when seeing asuka and lili?
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>>183152678
cease living
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>>183152678
Play ranked until you begin to hate them
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>>183152574
You'll learn basic mechanics with any character. Play Kazumi if you like a character that is rushdown, poke heavy, and has a small but effective toolset. Kazumi is the one you want to play if you want to win purely by out playing your opponent through fundamentals.

Dragunov is another good pick. He has more options in terms of keep out, pressure, etc. Either one will do you good.
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how the fuck do i do king's stretch combo?
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>>183152931
Right, I'll pick them up then. Thank you very much for your advice anon.
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>>183130130
Spring kick is -20 up close, -10 at max range
You can always punish it with 112 or stuff like that
Throw is not even a real punish, he could tech it
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What do I do when Yoshi is flying around and doing all his meme shit? It's genuinely terrifying
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>>183152979
It's a just frame. Have to press 1+2 at precisely the right time, which is right as King's back hits the ground. You can mash 1+2 but I didn't just to show you when you're supposed to press it.
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I remember hearing about this fightingGM guy who was really good at Tag 2. How's he doing now?
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>>183152474
i usually tell myself "ok ok" or something similar just to return my brain to "neutral"
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>>183152474
Play more
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>>183153338
Haven't seen him much in Tekken 7. His best achievement was probably getting 2nd place at an MLG Tekken 6 tournament where he beat Nin and Knee. Shame the videos seem to be lost.

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/fighting-to-win-mlg-interviews-fighting-gm
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>>183153338
He's just been begging for a sponsorship on Twitter.
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>>183148607
>>183148643
>>183148876
I dont know, it feels like everything I do is unsafe. And if I'm not keeping them out with 3+4 they're in my face fucking me up. Maybe I just need to git gud with him
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who is the best character for a super turtley runaway style?
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Havent played a single ranked game in 10 days
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>>183153934
Eliza is pretty defensive.
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>>183153949
Try not playing the game for the majority of this month and possibly the next. Stupid life getting in the way.
I just want to play.
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>>183153934
asuka
kazuya
jack
alisa
you can probably run away with akuma and eliza pretty effectively too
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I'm convinced Akuma players don't actually think, they just do and hope for the best.
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>>183115942
Im learning Eliza, what are her best pokes? Is there anything that confirms into b+4?
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>>183154276
hey worked in story mode..even that 10 star version you unlock
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>>183116781
No they cannot.
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>can finally do RDC consistently on pad
phew that was painful but i finally found shoulder bindings that work for me

now to do it online through blue ranks until everyone knows how to break all my throws and never throw someone ever again so all my time learning will have been pretty useless :)
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>>183154773
>Anyone knowing how to break Kings throws

I just mash 1 or 2 and hope for the best, disconnect if it somehow still goes through :^)
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>>183118053
Almost this but
No rematch tier: bad connection
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>>183154613
1 1,1 1,2 and 2,2. Use projectiles from a distance. Best way to use b4 is after a jumping jab or kick. You can also just throw it out there but remember to cancel into one of her special moves so you don't get punished.
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>>183121756
Imo steam should let you message someone that isn't on your friend list. But an option to ignorance re people not on your friend list would be necessary.
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>>183153934
jack
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>>183119102
Got these kinda image for more characters?
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How do I learn to play against characters in training? I feel so overwhelmed by the movelists, how do I know what is good and what isn't and what I should practice against?
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>>183155374
take note of what strings are fucking you up and set them to replay randomly until you react correctly to all of them
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Guys I beliebe that my place right now is green ranks with jin, cold you guys recomend me another honest character that requires fundamentals to win as a second main?
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>>183155516
paul
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>>183155547
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>>183130130
>throw as punish
If they're not shitters they can just break it.
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>>183151328
>Semi-new Tekken player here, started with TK6 then went back and beat all their stories. Been playing Tekken 7 since release and have drafted to some characters but the one I have been playing since TTT2 and onwards is Heihachi. I have good knowledge on him but I realize that I lose very often online despite having made it to True Tekken God offline

The reality is that the CPU is a moron compared to human players. Don't worry you're not alone I've only made it to Mentor online and I'm a Tekken God Prime offline. Ideally what you should be doing is rising to Dan rank and just keep playing Player Match with human opponents until you start to see the most used moves and learn to punish them. Also practice juggles for when you do those launches. It's slow and painful but becomes more rewarding the better you get at it.
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>>183152931
>>Kazumi is the one you want to play if you want to win purely by out playing your opponent through fundamentals.
>See this.
>Think back on all the matches I've won through just getting on opponent's face and mashing shit out.
>Yea, fundamentals.
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>>183151341

>I mean it can't get much worse than hitting on "her" during commentary

Relevant to trap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9dbAQJIu1o
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>>183155516
I main Feng and sub Jin

You main Jin so the answer is obvious
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Got to yellow with Hwoarang.

How hard is Bryan to learn? Is he a good rundown character?
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>>183154893
Ty anon
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>>183156664
Hard. Bryan requires fundamentals AND execution to play properly
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I know that guy with like 1400 Raven wins posts here, he's orange rank.

Is this your first Tekken? Still impressive, I dont even have a 100 ranked matches yet because of nerves
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>>183155516
>>183156543
jin/feng was my go-to back in tag 2

feels fuckin great to kill em without juggling a single time

anyways yea, feng is really similar to jin in alot of ways, alot of fast safe mids, strong at any range, great CH fishing, scary mixups and amazing whiff punish

just the juggle damage is whatever compared to other characters, but you don't pick feng or jin for their juggles anyways
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I don't understand this game, can someone explain this to me?
My friend said the game auto-blocks mid/high and I only have to manually block lows, but if I just stand there people punch me for full damage and I get demolished.
Surely there must be a block action for high/mids? This sounds ridiculous.
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>>183157836
Walk backwards to block manually and down back to manually block low.
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>>183157836
Never trust the auto block
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>>183157625
TV's Rob? How do you know he posts here?
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>>183156664
jumping from hwo to bryan will be hard for you, bryan doesnt really pressure with moves as much, he pressures with movement, threatening with CH

or you can just be a scrubby bryan and spam snake edge and orbital heel, zone and hit confirm with qcb2, 4
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Why do people go into warm up if they're going to dodge certain characters anyway?
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My intuition tells me that saying "if you're new to Tekken, you should start with character X, it's beginner friendly" is a bit of a meme but I'm not actually sure.

Is it really advisable to start playing with an easier character and later on change to a character that requires more skill instead of trying and picking a character you like and sticking with it while you gradually get better?
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>>183158045
He's said so multiple times, even showed pics
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>>183116037
cyan rankshitters everyone
still losing to dragunov mains?
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>>183158246
You automatically have more motivation to get better and learn when you're playing a character you like so I would say no

If I started out with Paul I probably wouldnt have had much fun
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>>183158045
>I NEED YOU RAVEN
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>>183132253
50/50
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>>183158251
cool
if you read this rob please consider changing that awful pink pixie cut
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>>183158246
Tekken is a balanced game in short sessions.
So basically you can pick whoever the fuck you want and roll with them. Practice them and learn fundamentals and you will do well no matter who you start with.

Pick someone you will have fun with even when you lose and you'll have a great time.
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>>183158246
Honestly as long as your character isn't too hard like Kaz or too unorthodox like Yoshi you'll be able to pick them up fine.

>>183157806
Jin juggle damage got fixed in this game. His biggest flaw now is not having a generic d4
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Is learning this game as a first fighting game with the keyboard difficult?
It just feels like I struggle to move.
Should I just buy a stick?
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>using really old aftermarket xboner pad with sticky buttons and bumpers that doubletap themselves
>figured i was just new and my execution was the problem
>finally get a crips brand new pad
>execution is suddenly godlike
ye okay feels good
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>>183147867
Yes

Hard to play against people if you aren't good at fundamentals though
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>>183158772
Stick or pad. Playing with a keyboard isn't impossible if you play on PC only. I haven't actually tried it on kb so I might be completely wrong though
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>>183155516
Main Jin sub feng myself, getting better with jin doesn't stop if you play feng and vice versa
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>PC version has only xbox controls on every menu/screen
nice game tekbabs
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>>183159341
>Windows operating system and Xbox both made by Microsoft
>between the two input options to display they chose the one that shares the parent company of the system players will be using
Truly a shocker, how dare they.
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>>183159513
>Displaying menu options for a different system to the one it is sold on
???
It's straight up retarded you microsoft shill, it has nothing to do with them both being owned by microsoft.
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I just killed a Grand Master Dragunov with my Bryan. It felt really good. I can't even fucking juggle
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>>183128740
>Goku finally got tired of Chichi's shit.
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>>183159647
What did you do?
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>>183159647
Murder is a crime you know, you should say you defeated him
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>>183158772
keyboard work pretty well
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>>183159868
Honestly? He ate the db3 sweep alot. And the ff2 meme fist
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>>183122360
Go into practice mode with Hwoarang and the framedata bot. Learn which moves of his are plus on block and which are minus.

Then find that guy again
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I'm not gonna be afraid, i'm playing ranked today

My goal for today will be just 1 rank up to Maurauder
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>>183125972
>i'm not playing online though
who said you did? thanks for the blog update
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>>183132253
Yes but there's no way to make her look decent
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>>183154816
>4
I came across this video today, it's really helped with breaking nad a bunch of King's shit that I never heard of before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGHIpohTvU
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>>183154773
good luck getting the arm breaker
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>>183160508
>When there is a reverse special stretch bomb attempt out of a sidestep (sidestep 2+4) the chain route depends on what side the grab begins on. If grabbed at the sides or back it will result in the chain starting as though cannonball buster was executed, but if grabbed from the front you have the opportunity to do a Manhattan drop for a longer chain route. The break button also changes - if grabbed from the front it will be 2, from the left it will be 1, from the right 2, and if grabbed from behind the throw becomes unbreakable.

WTF? Is that for real?
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>>183154773
There is never a 100% break for any of King's chain throws
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>>183160735
No that would be fucking dumb lol
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>>183159643
Who cares. If your not a moron you'd just refer to those buttons as 1,2,3,4
>>
Did anyone from /tekgen/ compete in EVO?
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>>183160735
Just tried it, seems legit.
>>
>>183161201
Yeah I won.

t. JDCR
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>>183159145
>>183158772
Mechanical keyboard is superior to both stick and controller put together
>>
>>183160508
This came close to covering everything, but they missed that you can go from the Arm Slam chain's Backdrop into the Stretch Bomb chain's Cannonball Buster.
>>
Is Yoshimitsu worth learning? I want a complex character that lets me be creative and shit, but I hear that he's not good with his damage output and is too risky.

Is he worth it?
>>
>>183161194
Yeah because I start the game with knowledge on translating the functions of a controller onto a keyboard
xD
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>>183161529
>playing on a Keyboard
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>>183161664
see>>183161418
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>>183161664
Why not?
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>>183161345
Hitbox is better than all of those.
But who gives a shit, stick is fun.
>>
>>183160508
>either 1 or 2 must be pressed depending on which version of the move that was done. It's easiest to visualize these inputs as "left" and "right" inputs. These moves make obvious breaks into a 50/50 chance

What does this even mean? How?
>>
>>183161747
because he's a butthurt Delaystation 4 player
>>
>>183161747
Cause it's a crutch.
>>
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>>183160508
>>183161786
>>
>Dance champions should never have been introduced to this game
y/n?
>>
>>183161994
No, they are cool to look at.
>>
Someone post the chart that placed the characters with "easy/hard to win with" on the X axis, and "strong/weak" on the Y axis
>>
Anyway to unlock matchmaking to the whole world? Europe is a bit dead at the moment
>>
>hit the floor
>get hit as I'm jumping back up and I'm back in the air being combo'd again
what is this meme? what is the counterplay to this?
>>
why do people absolutely refuse to fight akuma?
>>
>>183161940
The video says a bunch of those unbreakables are breakable, but the german isn't?
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>>183162516
They get meme'd by fireballs and dash cancels
>>
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>>183161786
Notice how there's two inputs available for most of the throws on this list? If King does the first input listed the throw will be broken by hitting 1. If King does the second input it will be 2. There's no visual indication of which he's doing, you just have to guess if he's going left or right.

The ones shown here without an alternate input are either unbreakable or require you to hit 1+2.
>>
>>183162067
pls
>>
>Bryan
>332 into ff2
>53 dmg

ok.
>>
>>183162826
He's not particularly hard. And hits pretty well. I'm enjoying him so far even though I'm only 3rd Kyu
>>
aw fuck, Hwoarang is wearing boots with heels
>>
>>183162342
what the actual fuck am I meant to do against this shit
does counterplay exist only in this game until you get knocked on the floor?
>>
man, there sure are a lot of bitches that quit after one loss
>>
>>183162342
>I'm jumping back up
There are many ways of getting up. Don't jump back up maybe?
>>
>PC
>ranked
>no session to join
>>
Hey you! You wanna try me, gov?
>>
I'm in Japan RIGHT NOW and I can tell ya... I hate playing on their arcade sticks. I'm so used to the 360 pad.

Got around a 40% win rate so far. Jap guys are, on the whole, nicr but most are a bit awkward.

Also all the arcade machines are still on Fated Retribution, so loads of characters are missing. I think they're getting a patch on the 27th though which will upgrade it to the console version.
>>
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>>183164082
y u lie
>>
>>183164517
Wtf, where do you live? I'm Texas and I'm lucky if I find ONE person in match list.
>>
>>183164517
north EU and not finding games.
Where are you from?
>>
>>183162718
Oh my god
>>
>>183162067
>>183162752
fucking POST IT REE
>>
>>183161940
yo thanks for this image
>>
>>
>>183164636
>>183164693
germany
>>
>>183164517
>PC can just choose the easy match ups

It hurts
>>
>>183165470
lucky you
>>
>>183165660
>consoles get patched quickly

it hurts
>>
Please don't roast me for asking:
What is a 50:50?
>>
>>183166425
A situation where there could be one outcome, or another. And it's impossible to know for sure, so you have to guess.

You're not dumb for asking that. You're dumb for not looking it up.
>>
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>>183162342
>>183163514
So try something different.
If you're getting juggled from the floor it's probably because you're either standing up and then defending badly, or doing a wake-up attack that's getting counter-hit.
>>
>>183166425
in tekken it usually refers to a low/mid mixup when the opponent's character has an unreactably quick low like the mishimas, leo, paul etc.
>>
>>183162718
>>183166505
Why are there so many fags who spoonfeed retards in this general?
>>
>>183166990
Durr what is teaching

Muh sekrit strats XD
>>
>>183166990
>spoonfeeding XD

just kill yourself desu
>>
>>183166990
not them, but i like to talk about the game and share info and help people learn. it's cool.
>>
How do I wake up, especially when near the wall? I get my face stomped in when rolling sideways, I eat a mix up when just standing, and backrolling is a no go. This is my biggest weakness.
>>
>>183166990
I like actually talking about the game instead of coming into these threads just to complain.
>>
>>183166990
you are not in /a/, kid
>>
To the memers who replied, no (you) for (you).

>>183167112
>>183167275
Do you not see how spoonfeeding the retards who complain just encourage more people to complain so they get advice?

You can literally google these dumb questions.
>>
>>183167464
put a trip on so i can filter you
>>
Hey guys what does crushing mean? I keep seeing this posted but I don't know what it is lol
>>
>>183167464
Asking questions isn't complaining.
>>
>>183167579
I usually go by Lucifer but I want to reach everybody
>>
>>183167683
then put it back on so you can go back to being filtered
>>
>>183167624
>guys I keep getting hit by x its so gay! what do i do?
>is there a bigger unga character than x? how do i defend against him
>god i fucking hate deathfist and demoman spam how do i deal with it?
>>
>>183167807
Show me any of those happening in this thread.
>>
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>block a sweep
>punish with a downjab
>>
New thread when?
>>
>having some great lili mirrors
>we're both playing clean, for the most part
>panic and kill him with a desperate rage art
>he instantly leaves

on the off chance that you're in this thread, I just want to say I'm sorry...
>>
>>183168326
His fault for getting caught by it
>>
>>183168326
>panic and kill him with a desperate rage art
Don't lie, you actually waited for him to press a button.
>>
>>183167990
They have happened in previous threads don't move the goalposts.

Spoonfeeders enable these posters.
>>
>>183168326
>Lili
>Clean
>>
>>183168743
>t.the one faggot that calls pure waifu material like lili a whore without evidence
>>
>>183167464
i mean you can google how to play tekken and never get a good answer
its only spooonfeeding to me if they complain about it and never respond to someone giving an answer either with a followup question or a thank you
>>
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>>183169179
I didnt mean it that way, i meant her moveset. I dotn care about Lili x Asuka waifufags
>>
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New thread

>>183169520

Also see picture.
>>
How do I jab? What is the notation?
>>
>>183169620
Is that fucking Tao?
>>
>>183167464
>complain about answering questions
>people respond by posting complete retard questions
Great job fixing the thread.
>>
Is playing Gigas like training with 100x Earth's gravity or something?
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