/xcg/ - XCOM General

Why are the Templars so FUCKING COOL AND USEFUL?

pistols are not useful

3rd for psionics are op

Are multipurpose combat rifles useful?

All vipers must fucking hang

>>183107925
XCOM was always the villain.

I'm just a little bit salty tac sense is enemy only. Tank assaults would be better with it

>>183108167

Looks like carapace armor, yeah.

>>183108294
tac sense on a tank? you are better off stacking dodge and armor since the enemy always prioritises those with the lowest defense

>>183108578
They also like to shoot guys who are closer up.

>>183108578

Do they prioritise lowest defense or highest chance to hit? Since they're different. Can the AI see its hit chance if it moves a few tiles closer, for example?

>>183108167
>>183108487
I believe it's this mod
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=917365196

>>183108167
Section 9 armor

pistols are useful

Jake said we'd need to maintain a lot more troops now due to the fatigue system, so how does everyone plan on organizing them?

I think I'll be grouping my soldiers up into half-squads of 3~4 men with complementary abilities, maybe even different tactics. The faction heroes (and sparks) could be in a reserve rotation to fill gaps or complement teams.

>>183109452

Just do what I normally do

>Gatecrasher gives 4 promoted soldiers
>Use 2 or 3 of those for the next mission, bring 1 or 2 rookies
>Do this until I have a solid base of soldiers that can rotate in and out with everybody being around the same rank and not having to worry about my "a-team" being out of action since there won't be an A-team

Vipers need a cuter curl up animation.

>>183109452
I hope they give you more starting soldiers to compensate

>>183109452
It depends on how heavy fatigue is. How many missions can we get through with it.

If it's like 3 before they are totally stressed then switch out half of the team on mission 2 and then the other half after mission 3 with swing spots for the faction heroes.

I imagine it won't be that bad so long as they aren't wounded so you can probably get 10+ missions out of them if you don't let them get harmed or panic.

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How do we solve the viperfag problem?

>>183109452
I wonder if Solace is going to be altered so that is lessens the fatigue damage taken on missions. It would make Psi-Ops even more required for everything,

>>183110124
it makes that Will PCS more useful, I guess

>>183109452
I'd probably adapt pretty easily since between LW2's infiltration and ABA2 making injuries a lot more frequent I'm already used to using several squads and having quite a few reservists.

Early game will be a bit of a pain with the need to shuffle the few vets that I have but once I got a decently sized force it wouldn't be much of an issue.

>>183110006
are you some kinda vegetarian fag? get the fuck outta here

>>183109850
They already showed that after one mission it went from full to almost empty. This would vary depending on soldier will (yay, an early game use for all those will chips). But that the bar would fill back up in only a few days. So I expect that it won't be a factor in the early game that much, but later on when you have missions literally back to back and can't wait days, it is going to start being a problem.

So I will probably have at least 4 of each class and just shuffle them in as need be, with Hero classes and Sparks filling in various roles when I can. Sparks will be nice since they don't get tired at all and I just have to worry about their repair time instead.

>>183110124

I'd rather something like that for Medic specialists, imo. I never spec them medic since combat protocol, OP overwatches and such are just too good. Damage mitigation is easier to attain and less of a pain in the dick than damage healing.

>>183110309
That would be nice, something like Field Medic, but for Fatigue. Really the major issue will just be will. It's certainly going to make me reconsider soldiers with bad Will on my NCE runs. Higher will means less need for soldier switching and if you are in the early game will PCS chips are always piling up and sometimes soldiers just don't need anything else. I hope there are also other means to raise will. Like how Covert Actions can give you movement or health as well as a free promotion. That is also crazy.

>>183110995

It may be worth intentionally near-suiciding soldiers to make them Shaken. Curing Shaken also increases will, I believe. Not sure by how much, though.

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>>183107838

HERESY

>>183111120
By like 20 points. It is certainly enough to justify it though I would imagine even someone with a full bar would go to zero during the middle of the mission. So in order to cure shaken, you are risking getting a negative quirk on that soldier and having to cure it.

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>>183107746
Guess who's back, so I should get the container first right? MEC second

>>183111293
that sounds like a reasonable tradeoff, if youre doing so intentionally

its going to be a major bitch in the early game where injuries are practically guaranteed and you wont have a hospital to cure potential negative traits

>>183111563
Yeah, Shaken soldiers might get dismissed in the early game if it's too much of a problem to try to use them, or at the very least not used for a bit.

I bet that Covert Actions might be used to cure them too.

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>>183110006
Fuck you, Viper is adorable.

>>183111492
Usually you want to rush laser and satellites.

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>>183112095
> Laser
Guess I gotta search that

in other news... I am fucked? First Council Meeting

>>183112616

Losing Asia's continental bonus isn't too bad. You lose a potential of up to 4 engineers per month, but it's fine. As long as you keep North America and Africa in for the duration, without losing 8 in total, you'll do fine.

>>183112616
You have to research weapon fragments to get lasers.
>losing nations
Standard stuff. Doesn't matter till you get a game over. That's why you want satellites, to stop nations from panicking.

>>183112764
>>183112743
Yes I am building a Sat since America in almost in full panic mode

>>183107746
Vahlen is cute. CUTE!

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>specialist with rapid fire
>trooper has the high ground
>decide to take two 50% shots at it
>first shot knocks out his footing, making him fall
>technically dont have LOS on him anymore but still take another shot anyway
>crit killed

>>183114078
She's a slut. A SLUT!

>>183114316
Calling Vahlen to your house RIGHT now anon.

>>183114316
Vahlen is PURE. Archon King destroys any who would defile her. The entire human race must be purged because of the risk.

>>183107829
They're purple.

>>183107838
Fuck you.

>>183107883
Fuck you.

>>183107920
Yes.

>>183108074
Yes.

>>183108139
Fuck you.

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THREADLY REMINDER THAT I AM THE _____________ MOST _______________ ____________________!

>Ayy lmaos climbing out of ever cover filling the fucking screen
>Throw some grenades so my squad actually survive the turn
>Vahlen: "Commander we should be trying to recover those artefacts"
>I'm sure all of the soldiers hate her ass.

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Fuck this weirdo humanlike aliens

>>183115062
eat a dick

>>183115363
Just wait till the start spitting acid all the time.

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>>183115253

>>183115476
Just lost my 4 best soldiers because they can snipe me through walls...

>>183115630
Actually just lost my second best sniper but say goodbye to Australia bonus...

>>183115363
In WOTC, we learn those things poisoned the water and turned the frogs gay and into zombies

>>183115354
I read that as
>I'm sure all of the soldiers ate her ass
and I got a little excited desu senpai.

>>183115831
>being into analingus
I get cunnilingus but that is gross

>>183115630
Thats XCOM baby!

I tend to split my squad: 2 trained, soldiers 2 rookies. That way I don't end up replying on 4 rookies when some horrid mission comes in.

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>>183115767
Actually it was all 4 dudes

I actually like this game but is just fucking strange that they can snipe me through the walls and I miss 80% shots at close range

>>183115363
The best thing I can say about thin men is that they've somehow designed an alien that is legitimately a threat for most of the game
Fucking bastards

>>183116054
Game's fucking hard man. Probably your tactics are poor though, since EW isn't supposed to be quite this bad. Poor luck happens of course (and Thin Men are bad luck magnets) but it is probable that you are not playing well. Can you post more shots with your soldier's positions in future missions and describe your moves/thought processes better so that we can assist you in improving?

The child mod is never going to happen is it

>tfw savescumming
Haven't lost a single troop yet

>>183110309
You will probably be speccing them into medic more since your team comp will be more focused around supporting and keeping heroes alive.

>>183116878
I savescum during the portion of the game where stun lancers can insta kill anyone they please and I am not ashamed

>>183110309
>>183116920
Remember that you can get both sides of the ability tree now so it becomes more of an immediate 'what do I need now?' situation.

>>183116983
>stun lancers

What are Flashbangs and Suppression? They really aren't hard to deal with.

>>183116054
>all 4 dudes
>implying only 4 dudes
Get that squad size upgrade ASAP. Literally no other upgrade in the game can boost your combat effectiveness so drastically.

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>>183116560
I do as simple as I can think just so I can learn, more like this:

I move two together, shotgun dude flanking, sniper in long range mostly in the back where Aliens can't hit him or in the Top Floor other two stick together just in case there is a emergency one as smoke another as medpack, shotgun dude as always a medpack also.

More or less like in the screenshot

>>183117087
>Suppression

Suppression does jack shit to lancers. They'll just run through it and a single overwatch shot will not be enough to kill them.

>>183117087
ADVENT usually runs overwatch if they know they can survive it

fuck now i want to replay xcom 1, i miss exalt

Anyone ever notice that the pod order for legendary gate crasher is always the same?
First you hit the three trooper pod.
Then you hit the trooper and sectoid pod
If you kll the trooper without killing the secotid, the sectoid retreats.
Then it is the two trooper and Captain pod
Every single time.

Pod anchoring was a mistake.

>>183114316
Collaborators should be shot on sight.

>>183117424
Not really sometimes you activate ALL THREE PODS.

>>183117202
You're spread a bit thin right now, unless there are some aliens in that building. Keep your soldiers close enough to provide fire support for each other.

> 100% hit change
> Flanked
> No cover
> Does 1 damage

Second Wave was a mistake bros.

>>183117424
Not really it's possible to activate the three or them or activate them out of order.

Actually, if you ever trigger the pectoid before he has any zombies to make you're likely fucked and better start praying he doesn't OHKO or dominate of your niggas

>>183117590
did you turn on damage roulette?
why?

>>183117590
>damage roulette
oh shit nigga what are you doing?

>>183117590
You turned on damage roulette? Nigga you went full retard, you never go full retard. Your campaign is probably just fucked.

>>183117202
>>183117560
Basically, the only time you want to spread out is to encircle and flank an enemy. If you can only fight an enemy with half of your squad, you need to fall back and regroup immediately.

>>183117780
>Not going damage roulette, epigenetics, hidden potential 100% and NCE on your LW2 runs

>>183117846
>>183117780
>>183117649
It looked like fun D:

Already started a new one

>>183115253

I'll try an E ...

>>183117923
Fun, heh, yeah

>>183117908
LW2 pretty much has damage roulette built in.

>>183117923
the only one I personally like is Hidden Potential
the rest are just designed to fuck you over

>>183117987
Uh no it doesn't.

Graze band isn't even close

>>183117009
It's probably very unlikely you'll be able to amass all the points for one soldier to get every ability in either side, unless you're playing a long game.

>>183118084
You get alot of the same effect (as in you thought you were going to kill someone and now your not). I now it's not the same, but imagining graze band + roulette sounds pretty funny.

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>watch Templar's video
>mfw MISCREANTS

Rest in pieces best Chosen

>>183117989
>>183117987
Well I gotta sleep, 9 hours and I am back, full day ahead of me to play

>>183118153
its not even necessary either, theres only a handful of abilities that would actually be useful to have

>>183117202
Basically, you need at least three soldiers in a group to be really effective. So it's only after you've gotten the squad size upgrades that you have any sort of tactical flexibility.

In the example you gave, I would have had them stack up behind the door, and all move onto the building on the same turn. That way, if there were any aliens inside, I'd be able to kill at least one or two of them before they'd get a chance to retalliate.

>tfw vahlen is indeed the templars leader

r-right bros? ;_;

>>183118230
was that AoE effect from his dying zombies or did the attack emit some kind of psi wave?

Guys how the fuck do i get into sparks and mec troopers, their lack of cover gets me paranoid

>>183118647
smoke grenades/gremlins

>>183118545
I think it's the ghost dying aoe effect, it was shown in his inside look they explode on death/manual explode.

>>183118489
No Vahlen is in some advent facility being forced to make burgers

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>>183118647

>>183118647

put a soldier out of cover as bait

>>183110006I thought PeTA was against owning pets?

>>183118806
just put everyone out of cover and let nature sort out the rest

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>>183117923
>It looked like fun D:

>>183107883
Oh, go play Xenonauts then, you bore.

>>183118757

Does that mean the blacksite vial is in fact the secret sauce for ADVENT™'s juicy, succulent, divine AdventBurger©?

Are XCOM just thieves, wanting the sauce supply all for themselves?

>>183118785

>Push that cover is for the weak meme the entire time
>game comes out
>if you don't use cover you die instantly

Thanks Relic.

>>183118489
Vhalen is in charge of a Viper nursery, taking care of newly cloned babby vipers.

>>183119593
Nigga I beat that shit on the hardest difficulty balls to the wall never using cover except for the odd moment where there were snipers. Git gud

>tfw no Space Marine 2 :(

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>>183109654
This isn't cute enough for you?

>>183118489
Not a chance in hell.

>>183118545
I would guess he has an explosive death effect like the sectopods and the ethereals in EW.

>>183119842

>implying you can survive without cover against those fucking chaos psykers

>>183119854

sssssssssss

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>>183119854
Yea, I would have liked more of a ball python type of thing like this.

>>183120316

>enemy is called Viper
>wants it to act like a Python

Anon...

>tfw a bootiful snek will never embrace you
why even live bros?

>>183120381
>enemy is called viper
>anon wants it to act like a python
>It looks like a cobra
>HAS A RATTLESNAKE RATTLE
Where's a fuckin herpetologist when you need one

>>183104740
Rangers are viable in the sense you will not be able to bring a hero on every mission.

>>183120381
I just think the way the ball python curls up when it's scared looks cuter.

>>183120634
This, especially since Jake's said that it's extremely hard to get more than one of each hero unit at a time. This leads me to think that putting them all in one team might actually be a bad idea because you'd get less usage out of them individually.

>Ultralight vests
I think I just found a new favorite item

>>183120634
That's not really a good reasoning, even if it's correct. Ranger shouldn't be something you settle for because everyone else is out. It should have something it does on it's own that is very good.

It does still have this with Rapid Fire shotgun crits, but that is in the late game. Shotgun is still one of the highest damage in the game and Ranger is the only one with it. So I don't doubt they will still be a power house. But their niche as a spotter for my Sniper is pretty much gone now and their sword spec is probably still going to be shit. I just hope that they get something in return rather then just being number 2.

>>183121257
>early game
>only unit you can rely on to get da kills for SURE on high difficulty with gun
>late game
>least RNG unit because its good rolls are so insultingly high with talon rounds

It's not an underdog and never will be; it's something that will complement the hero units

>>183119413
I was kidding, I love their power.

>>183118489
Unfortunately Geist looks like he's going to be the least interesting faction leader. Price to pay for his faction being arguably the coolest I guess.

>>183119413
Xenonauts is actually pretty fun. I hope they bring back interceptors in Xcom3

>>183121810
I don't think XCOM2 is outdated
the game could totes have like an expansion for post-story story
Among other things
There are still quite a few UI gripes that need fixing, as well as some bugs and load times, and in that time they can extend the life of the game with meaningful content

>>183121947
Considering that WOTC was going to be XCOM 3 before they decided to make it a concurrent expansion I'm pretty sure this is XCOM2's last extra content release.

>>183121593
As a pure damage class sure, but Ranger had other things to define it that are all but gone now. The only other thing they have is Shadowstep to fuck overwatch. I'm not saying I won't use them anymore, but you can't say from a design standpoint that the hero classes aren't kind of stepping on it's toes.

One thing I am looking forward to though is Ranger run and gun, destroying something, then Templar teleport and put up his shield to counter any damage. Templar will make Ranger rushing in the safest thing imaginable. At least until he gets Untouchable.

>>183121947
WOTC is xcom2's last expansion/DLC, they're gonna be focusing on Xcom3 after WOTC.

>>183122084
>>183122073
that's so fucking stupid
>make great overhauled and fresh game
>sell off 2-3 5$ throwaway DLC
>What should have been new content was almost a new game????
Who makes these decisions
The Sims games had a plethora of good meaningful expacs intersparsed with pure shit, but at least it had many expacs
At least Shivering Isles was a full-fledge realm with new locales

god damn

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>>183121203

>SMG
>Ultralight Vest
>Mobility PCP
>Mk2 Smart Scanner

I am become sanic speed am game

>>183122505
Producers make these decisions. Blame 2k. If they didn't exist, Firaxis would have much more options for what they wanted to do. They had to fight tooth and nail to prevent XCOM 2 from being loaded down with microtransactions.

>>183122562
+side arm holster
It's like I can move from 1 side of the map to the other in 1 move

>>183122675
>microtransactions.
like what? REVIVING an ironman soldier?
REROLLING a shot?
EXTENDING a timer?
I almost want to say games collectively went to shit once EA stopped the"challenge everything"

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>5hp 2 ablative armor soldier gets poisoned
>it should subside after 2 turns or so
>5 turns later
>already panicked twice now
>still poisoned
RNG, QUIT IT!

>>183122939
Probably only extend timers from your list, though I can imagine things like.

>instant research
>instant buildings
>give yourself supplies, alloys, elerium

Basically what would have been cheat codes in the olden days.

>>183122562
I think that mod may need some balancing

>>183123115

That's very likely

Xcom ew was too we
Will Long War give me the frusturation advance wars gives me?

>>183122024
Source?

>>183123347
Just google wotc was supposed to be xcom3

>>183122939
>games collectively went to shit once EA stopped the"challenge everything

Holy fug, I think you're right. Everything went to shit between 2005-2007.

>mass iphones
>mobile gaming
>microtrannies
>blizzard gobbled up
>ea gobbles up some more

It all started when Dr Who came back.

>>183123621
And when the Big Bang Theory started.

>>183123336
EW is the tutorial for Long War

>>183123527

All Jake said was that his lackeys wanted all this stuff to be in Xcom 3. But he was like NO! New game needs to be new narrative! And then he fucking electrocuted them.

>>183123336
Long War is for hardcore players, but it actually isn't that bad. It has a proper difficulty curve, rather than the inverse curve in the base game.

I fucked up the wounded exalt capture mission and killed the guy or something
What exactly did I miss out on

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>>183123621
>>183123743
Someone say 2007?

>>183123115
The scanners could do with a nerf and the cost of the ultralight vest is way too low for what it gives despite how much I love it, it's nice to have to choose between vests instead of just having hazmat on everybody. The gun is fine as is

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>>183124170

>John Ricitiello

That guy was a cool dude, he made the best games.

>>183124170

Wonder what Donald Trump was up to in 2007. Perhaps it's where the timelines get all funky and we split from the one where vidya didn't go down the drain.

>>183124170
The girl in Cheat was so hot. How did G4 go from that to Cheaters.

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Post living quarters or bars.

>>183124503
I hate to keep posting off topic, but this is the last time for now.
This video explains a great deal about G4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEBwGOHntro

>>183124417
He was with Her
If only she won in 08, there has never been a bad gaming year under a Clinton

>>183124558
I only ever get 3-4 people in the living quarters same with the bar.

>>183124885
There's a mod that fixes that. Don't remember what it's called, but it allows for more people to spawn in bars, living quarters, etc. Really brings the Avenger to life.

>tfw 200 missions into your LW2 campaign and still nowhere near beating it

>>183109452
Using the bond system to fill effect, plan on having each squad field 2-3 pairs of battle buddies. Have different buddy combos for different missions, like 2 grenadiers for non-lost missions, or a skirmisher+sharpshooter combo if I'm expecting a chosen who has the 3+ damage instances weakness

>>183125481
Can you bond more than one soldier? Like soldier A can have 5 tier 3 bonds or can you only be bffs with one guy?

>>183125898
looks so far like bonds are pairs only

>>183125898
One dude only, as far as we are aware, though it definitely sounds like one dude only.

>>183125898
yes you can,

>>183125898
Only one. Otherwise you could stack bonds like crazy. For instance, let's say you have a Ranger bonded with five people. Each of those five people could give up their action to allow the Ranger another action, like Command. Now the Ranger can use Rapid Fire 6 times.

Not very balanced.

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>mfw

>>183126124
You could get that same effect with psi ops, though psi ops + unlimited bonding would get insane.

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>>183122982
you know what a 98% chance to hit is?
Still not 100%

I feel the best way is to XCOM is to expect the worst
Of course I feel disgusted when the AI pities me and throws a turn away so I can blast the fucker, but still

>>183123113
That's the fucking bottom of the barrel for a game, and for a timed campaign no less
All that pressu

>>183126156
Pitiful mortals think their beam weapons have a effect one me

>>183107925
>feeling guilty about killing fictional creatures

Women aren't real, anon.

Blatant self-promotion

Once Long War is complete, some members of the Long War team will be developing original games. If you'd like to stay updated on their efforts, check out their web site,http://www.longwarstudios.com.

>>183124170
I don't buy this year of decadence meme. nihil sub sole novum

>>183119703
>cloned
>implying

>>183126156
>i must go my people need me.

>>183126627
LWS is now, pavonis interactive.

And after all the extra playtime LW1 and 2 have given me I couldn't care less if they self promote.

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>>183126627
Did you slip into a coma a year ago, just wake up, and rushed here to post this?

My sniper just got run and gun, is that worth anything?

>>183126840
>Under Challenge everything
>every C&C from RA2 to Generals
>BFME series
>SIms 2 under Will Wright
>Great LotR Movie games on consoles
>BF2142
I mean jesus

>>183127130
Move and shoot with sniper rifle.

>>183127130
Congrats on your free snapshot with four turn cooldown

>>183127223
does it really retain the ability to shoot after dashing? I just thought it would be a reason to get out of LoS because elevation doesnt provide aim penalties to the elevationally challenged

Still no facility leads. What the fuck.

>>183127357
Run and gun gives you a free action point you can use for anything. So you can make a blue move, pop RnG and take a shot.

>>183127670
So it also applies to hair triggers and death from above?

>>183128292
Yes

>>183127670
i know about the pop n shoot
just thought it would only work with pistols

In vanilla, don't normal cars explode the same turn you hit them with a grenade? Or am I mis-remembering? XCOM 2.

>>183128880
Nah, they explode the turn after not sure for plasma but rockets are immediately.

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What is this face trying to convey?

>>183128880
From what I recall, they have their own HP pool that gets depleted when hit with weapons, explosives, etc. Being on fire ticks it down, but enough shots and/or explosives can make it explode like a plasma grenade.

>>183128880

It depends. I think frag grenades are next-turners, and plasma has a chance of being this turn and next turn. Rockets and shredder guns happen instantly.

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>>183124558

Why do people want XCOM3 instead of an expansion of XCOM2?

>>183129392
What "people"? Idiots?

>>183129450
not them but steam commenters seem to want an xcom 3

>>183129142
>Everyone has one option if they want it bad enough

>>183129614
>steam commenters
Those are idiots lad, no need to be redundant

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>Assault just missed two 90% shots in the past 2 turns

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>All sniper team
>VIP is within LoS from evac point

Should I kill him or try to grab him?

>>183129682
Seriously is there math beyond the percentage given? There has to be something up when the game tells me 99% chance to hit and I miss. I should play the lotto or run for 2020

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1081196484

>>183129756
Shoot him in the leg

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>>183129859
B A S E D
A
S
E
D

>>183129756
Grab just gives you the intel so if you have enough just shoot him.

>>183129614
That's a step up from youtube comments.

>>183129823
In lower difficulties the game cheats for you in the background, but the prng is legit.

>>183129756

If you don't care for intel, pop the fucker.

>>183129656
dont worry i know they shouldn't be listened to just stating who is shouting

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Is X-COM a rival faction of XCOM or do they exist in alternate timelines like XCOM and XCOM2?

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>everyone is missing 80% shots
I'm fucking losing it.

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>>183130453
thats a toughy

>>183130547
Did you make a blood sacrifice to the gods of luck yet?

>my own impatience is the only thing killing my men

>>183130691
Sors salutis
et virtutis
michi nunc contraria,
est affectus
et defectus
semper in angaria.

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>assault misses ez shots
>everyone starts missing ez shots
>to top it off get the "under avenger" glitch after pulling out
>now have to restart the game
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1500004801404.webm

>>183131010
I dont get it, why did he let out a scream

>>183129392

They'd rather play nu-TFTD.

>>183131175
You ever try to get dubs or trips before and get so close to it only to be off by 1? It's something like that.

>>183131361
Hes mad he didnt get the crit? Its 50/50 dude. How can you even play games if you cant roll with the punches

>>183131474
Although it is technically because of failing to crit, it's mainly because the Floater was 6hp and he hit for 5, 1 less than what he needed. It's those moments that really get you sometimes.

>>183131621
Oh he wasnt paying attention. Id have smashed Alt+F12 desu

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>>183131342
And why is that bad again?

>>183129682
I like to think of Rich Evans' XCOM2 review
SOmeting along the lines of
>you know what Ive been playing EU/EW for over 400 hours and Im breaking 40 on 2; and the other day I missed a 98% shot and I wasn't even mad because I thought back at all the 98% shots I've landed, And I'd say I'm doing pretty good
Using the sword I've fucked over my ranger up to 4 times in 6 playthroughs (dat 88) thanks to sectoids but its K because I stopped relying on it because 100% on shotguns is just that good

tl;dr I think that's XCOM. baby

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Okay LW2 that's it you win, I give up

>>183132185

I never said it was bad.

It's going to be Apoc meets TFTD

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hmm

>>183131621
>when you know that fuckin stun lancer's going to charge your ass with 1 hp left and kill your grenadier before you blast his ass
Sometimes I don't even have the heart to kill him, I just start a new playthrough and pray for the monies for a flashbongler

>>183132337

>turn 360 degrees and alt f4 them away

>>183129682
>>Assault just missed two 90% shots in the past 2 turns
Odds of this happening: 1%
Odds of you coming here to tell us when it does: 99%

>Already researching Elerium in April
Multiple double insights is kind of gamebreaking

>>183133304

eh, waste of research time since you won't have the materials to build any of the gear.

>>183133304
speaking of random events
are the spawns at the final boss fight random or specific?

>>183133427
it means he can get loads of intel from data pads and just buy it all from the black market though

>>183133427
I don't anything else to research besides autopsies that are 1 or 2 corpses away from being instant, I wish MEC or Mutons would show up already because 4 hp enemies are no challenge with mag weapons.

There should be a way to tell your troops what to not fucking shoot at during overwatch

>Viper grabs Assault with tongue grab
>Dies to CCS

Always lovely to see

So do people ever use the overdrive serum? It's a consumable but then Berserkers don't spawn as much.

>>183133865
It's not worth using in it's current state, maybe if it wasn't consumable.

>>183133865

I have never once used them, or even made them. I've not done Berserker autopsies in god knows how long. The item is utter shit, completely worthless and a waste of resources. Fuck em.

>>183133620
>soldier with stock shoots a codex for 1 damage

JUST

>>183134027

*teleports behind u*
*psionic bombs ur'e entire squad*

heh...

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So I have a fuckton of mods installed, mostly cosmetics and voice mods. Game is chugging hard now, would more ram solve the problem? I currently have 8 gigs

>dude just delete the mods
no

>>183134120
Anon you don't need that voice pack you're not even using it right now.

>>183134120
I run on 16 gigs fine, though I don't have a fuckton of mods installed

>>183133587
He's still gated by Elerium crystals if he's playing on legendary

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Post yfw
>use fleche on ayy
>game stutters
>number of icons showing ayys in sight triple

>>183134120

Dude just delete the mods.

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>>183134751

>>183134120
I know that feeling bro. I trimmed my cosmetics recently to try and make load times less ridiculous.

>>183134120
Dude just delete your computer.

>>183134120
More RAM, not really.
I mean, it won't hurt, especially for you overall PC use and not just XCOM, but installing the game on an SSD would speed up load times and be more beneficial to you.

>>183134120
I upgraded my RAM from 8 to 16GB last September for this very reason. I use a lot of mods and the RAM helps.

My game is on a hard drive but my 4690k apparently makes a bigger difference in loading than I thought.

>>183134120
>using cheats
Delete your existence.

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>>183134751

>>183136028
>mostly cosmetics and voice mods
>cheats
Are you retarded or just a butt-blasted console fag?

>>183136103
>"comestics" and "voice mods"
So that's what they're calling them nowadays huh? Nice try cheater.

Is it ever worth it to intentionally not infiltrate and do swarming supply raids?

>>183136165
So a console fag, gotcha.

soo any idea how each hero class will interact with the charpool?
i imagine the skirmishers will work like sparks because they arent human, but will the reapers and templars be able to pull from my list of characters?

>>183136287
>he's this mad about a shitty joke
Calm down lad.

>>183136259
yes, you get mad corpses and shit from it

>>183136378
I'm pretty sure they all work like SPARKs considering they can only use their faction armor and have unique voices. (2 for male, 2 for female)

>>183136439
>"shitty joke"
So that's what they're calling damage control now? Nice try console kiddie.

>>183136567
How the tide has turned. :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyAQdUn46Sk
>0:37
>Objectives
>Plant X4 charges on the psionic Transmitter
>Delay the transmission by disabling power relays
>Neutralize all enemy targets
so bomb mission from EU/EW, except you are the bomb

>>183136861
>no, john, you are the bomb
>and then john was a thin man

>Muton takes a shit at my full cover operative
>25% hit, 10% crit, 0% dodge
>crits for 10
Fuck off rng.

>game is fucking up and I can't complete experimental ammo
Son of a bitch
I am not gonna play this game without my talon rounds

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>>183134751

>>183119854
its panicked how does that happen?

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If the Templars are called Templars, why do they look, act like, and have a combat stance more reminiscent of bare-fisted monks?

>>183138252
Insanity or void rift.

>>183138364
Because energy swords.

>>183138364
>Sword as primary weapon
>Not pistol
>We will never get pistol primary class
>Animations for pistols will always be shit

>>183138430

I think modders will be able to reuse the Warlock's idle animation for pistol, the way he stands almost looks like he is ready to draw out pistols like a gunslinger or something.

>>183137954
Get the rewards refresh mod?

>>183138550
You mean the Templars? Their idle stance looks more to me like they're doing funky finger movements because they're coursing with unlimited power, befitting how they're basically Sith but with different swords and a different name.

Just bought the game. What am I in for?

>>183138252

Serpent suit.

>>183138784
rng and dressup its good

>>183138784
Anxiety and disappointment

>>183138740

No, i mean Warlock, the Chosen guy. Although maybe he is using the same idle as the Templars.

>>183136378
They have their own pool presumably, as they don't act like other soldiers. They have different voicepacks and armor (and can't use regular ones) and you have to obtain them through interacting with their faction - you can't have rookies be promoted and suddenly become an ultra-survivalist sneakman or crazy psycho-wizard.

>>183132727
so LW2
Loading War 2

>>183138942
Warlock has an assault rifle though, not a pistol.

>>183138784
killing ayys and crying when your dumb decisions get your dudes killed

>>183139090
He says idle animation.

>>183139006
I like how WOTC is taking the idea of "lots of dudes on lots of little missions" concept of LW2 and making it a thingy where you send a small group of troops on spy missions for a few days without needing actual tactical missions for each one

>>183139090

He doesn't hold his rifle when he is just standing around in his idle animation

>>183139228
This is true, nevermind my confusion. I thought you meant his other animations alongside it.

Of course the problem is that dude's like two times the size of a human, porting his skeleton could prove troublesome.

>>183139191
One of my favorite things about LW2 is multiple concurrent missions.

>>183138857
>>183138904
>>183139120
Sounds like money well spent.

>>183139191
LW2 supporting WOTC would be a headache with covert ops, infiltration, and maybe fatigue to deal with

>>183139423

I'm not sure how animations work 100%, but i know that females have a different skeleton from males, but they can reuse all the male animations because they are run through a "filter", i'm willing to bet that the same applies to the Chosen, so it might be possible to reuse their animations anyway.

I wish WOTC reworked Lily's face, she looks too much of a Male to Female transgender also not helping she's from Thailand.

>>183139749
think the shens are Taiwanese

>>183139749
Taiwan, and yes it's a shame she took so much after her father.

>>183139785
>>183139861
Oh, I still stand my point that Lily has a mannish face,

>>183139749

Her face isn't so much mannish as it is rat-like.

>>183140119
Yeah, that's why I'm hoping for a rework or bring back Vahlen

>>183139749
They should rework her personality as well, Tygan doesn't deserve all the shit she gives him.

>>183140275
That's not going to happen.

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>>183136861

>literally a protoss templar

MY LIFE FOR AUIR

I hope will completely replaces the bullshit "get scratched, 30 days in a hosptial" method of forcing troops to stay off successive missions

>>183138364
protoss reference ya git

Any clue whenever the new dudes are gonna be Early/Mid or late game? I would love to use them early game. They had magnetic weapons in the lost gameplay so I'm guessing earlyish

>>183140982
Actually it will mean that more soldiers will have to take vacations
Which means you're gonna need more soldiers in your barracks to fill er up

>>183141178
>They had magnetic weapons in the lost gameplay so I'm guessing earlyish
lol no they didn't, 3-4 dmg seem like magnetic to you?

>>183140275
vahlen coming back wouldn't do anything to lily, it would displace tygan

>>183141178
>Any clue whenever the new dudes are gonna be Early/Mid or late game?

Two weeks into the game since that's when the narrative tutorial mission starts.

I'm gonna ask again, what should I do to make the game liberate all RAM it's not using?

>>183141345
It would mean that Xcom will atleast have eye candy in the avenger.

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Fucking finally.

>>183141467
Was it worth it?

What paths do you guys usually take for officers in LW?
Some abilities look really interesting but they seem so much more situational than others.

>>183138842
is that a mod?\

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>>183141542
I guess.

>>183141680
alien hunters dlc

>>183141584
Long war 2 I meant.

Is LW2 a decent increase in difficulty or is it just more busy work?

>>183142397
both

>>183142397
depends on if you think an increase in busywork is difficulty

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>>183142397
Increase the number of missions you do by 10
Increase the number of enemies on each mission by 10
Divide the tactical options you have in combat by 10

That's LW2

>>183142397
The missions are more difficult and you get a lot of new toys to play with in them
On the other hand anything that isn't a mission is a tedious slog

>>183142581
More difficult missions sounds great but a tedious slog of a strategic layer sounds horrible.

>>183142397
At this point it's better to just finish your current run and wait for the expansion, doing a LW2 run just before the expansion is just going to burn you out.

I wouldn't mind LW2 as much if it wasn't pure RNG determining if you get access to liberation missions

How long until we have protoss armor and alarak voice lines once WotC comes out?

>>183142934
I don't know whose brilliant idea was it to make missions determined by RNG, even by itself that just sounds like a terrible idea
Everything else about it is so good too, but GOD why did they have to do that

>>183142397
LW2 is so magnificent that when you begin a new ironman campaign, the game rolls your chance of success right then and there. You could do everything right and still fail all because of RNG facility leads.

>>183143018
There's an alarak voice pack on the workshop but it's shit and full of crackle and stutter. Really wish another would come out.

>>183142934
Oh, if only you knew the truth about strategy layer RNG

I actually sorta hate the whole "multiple missions at the same time" thing

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>Gun costs 4 alien alloys to build
>Downed UFO is only worth 30 alien alloys
Explain this

>>183143612
It was worse in LW1 when entire supply ships and battleships gave you a disproportionately small amount of alloys.

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>>183143161

Who could be behind this post

>>183143938
warlock here looks like hes about to drop the hottest album in Ayy L'mao sector.

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>>183142934
>>183143130
>>183143138
Pulled this from the LW2 mod files.

>>183144030
Is this a fucking joke?

Jesus Christ I really wish LW2 had an auto-resolve function. I get that the entire point is that it's exhausting and grueling but Jesus Christ dude there's just so many missions.

>>183144152
Isn't it safe to skip them?
I'm thinking you should just focus on missions that give you the money or supplies you need at the moment

>>183144104
Pay attention to the numbering on the left side, but you can land yourself in a game you can't win because of strat layer rng.
>>183143938
I was worried no one would get it

>>183144030
kek

>>183144253
>Isn't it safe to skip them?
You can skip a lot,but there's straight up shit you need like find a lead missions, supplies to actually do shit and resistance personnel to find lead missions.
LW2 feels like a lot of filler at times because if you're not doing 20 find a lead missions you're going to lose from the invisible avatar project.

>>183144421
I do every "find a lead" mission that isn't 1 day expiration and I have only 2 liberated regions in September

>tfw your tempted to disable scanning sites plus because doing so many missions is extremely draining

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>it's a "2+ pods stacked on top one another" episode

Is there a limit to how large your character pool can be?

>>183145120
Probably but it's easily over 1000

>>183145079
>It's a "you activated 2 pods and you have to plan your moves carefully so you don't activate the third one around the corner" episode

post the nickname of your soldier with the highest kills

>Gogurt

>>183145196

>activate it anyway because a missed shot destroys the wall they were hiding behind

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>>183145359