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>Upcoming changes
In Development: Skill Balance, SummonAI, PvP, Cards https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1047
New Saalus Map https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjeuv7J3G3A
Field Bosses Rework https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92RrTQUGbk8
Summon Buffs http://tos.nexon.com/testserver/notice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=69
Fishing System https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJPB7KbPk60
DPK gone https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1032


>Info and details about re-balance
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktest-ktos-class-rework-thread-important-info-in-1st-post/354628

>HG 315 Purple Weapons X Practonium Purple Weapons
https://pastebin.com/78mTQn1Y


>Latest Patch Notes
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=3&n=1
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1045

>Current events
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=33&n=1

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam (Nexon)


TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links

>Addon Manager (includes jTOS and iTOS addons)
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases


>Database, skill planner and other stuff
DO NOT FOLLOW BUILDS FROM TOSBASE
https://tos.neet.tv


>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Hunting Grounds locations and gear spreadsheet (all in RNG cubes now)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fP4G1JjL2pj6wMfpL_3o9pFWYIKpr3QnYgQ-XTfK21k/pubhtml#


>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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Is it worth to up transmit prana to +6 with divine might? You get +10% INT transmit (which is meh) and something like +10 atk.
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>tfw only endgame is erp
WoE when???
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uui
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>>183078290
WoE is shit, RO is shit, you're shit. Go back to /rog/ 3rd worlder.
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tell me about deprotected zone
I know it used to be shit but now it seems like lowering the enemy defense would be a pretty good thing against bosses, why isn't it used much nowadays? it seems like it could be a good support skill
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>>183078289
Why wouldn't you max literally your ultimate skill....... .... ....
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>>183078379
correction
RO is shit now

It was good, one of the best games of all times in the MMO scene, up there with WoW Vanilla and TBC, Runescape and Maple Story
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>>183078508
It used to be awesome and now it's shit.
Things die too fast for stacks to stack and it doesn't scale with SPR anymore.
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>maple story
>good

can we go back to chaplain pd memes
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>>183078602
>vanilla WoW
>Runescape
>Maple Story
>good
holy fuck
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>>183078542
cause from the numbers it seems like it wouldn' give much benefits over Using divine might on something like BDS which gives instead a +10% damage
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>>183078758
what about ET bosses if you don't have a murmnobi to oneshot them? what about future world bosses after the rework?
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>>183078864
how stupid are you? divine might lasts for multiple spells
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>>183078289
>and something like +10 atk
That's not how it works.
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>>183078883
I don't know how fast stacks increase now but even if it's one stack per second, you'll only get -12% pdef/mdef towards the end. Which is -500 or so def for new world bosses.

Somebody who actually tested it should confirm how it is UTTER SHIT now.
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Game's never going to be pay to win they said
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>>183079292
isn't lulamoon the tranny who has some slave as pet in discord? lol
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>>183079292
Weren't special classes unlocked by combining specific jobs ?
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>>183079165
He almost got it right. You'll get matk*0.03 more psy damage with prana 6 instead of 5.
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>>183079292
>reddithouse
>attention whore
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>>183079401
nah that's PaleMoon.
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Prana 6 gives me ~110 psycho damage, not that bad assuming you also get extra damage on all your next skills

it's a matter of rotations, if you can just straight kill mob with a skill, then okay, don't use it, but if you're in a downtime somehow, why now?
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>>183079292

I'm not following.
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>>183079407
and doing 'often annoying as fuck' quests
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[CNLNGGR] M*A, don't forget to attend the wedding event on July 23, 8pm gook time on Vaivora, Tenet Garden ch2, in front of the dungeon entrance.
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>>183079407
Only Chaplain
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>>183079292
who said that?

random retards on reddit/forum/togs?

you are even more retarded if you believe there bullshit
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>>183079292

>win
>bad classes

kek
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>>183079991
He's some retarded spaniard
don't expect them to have a brain
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>>183079950
>>183080151
Are they good at least ?
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>>183080251
WHAT? WHO?
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>>183076931
Believe it or not, I do get a sense of satisfaction from being able to pay my bills. Fun is a subjective thing.
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>>183078773
>>183078828
it is better than this trash to be quite desu wa with you senpai
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>>183080616
Do you also get a satisfaction of raising your wifes half black son?
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>>183079862
Oho what is that
I guess i'll check it out..

>이스넬 판치르
they better both be cute girls

and i am White. And Clover
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>>183080659
Maple Story now is what ToS should have been, but Maple Story back in the early 2000s was complete shit.
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>>183078992
I have this rotation. Divine>HEALx2>BDS>CURE>INCINERATION>POSSESSION adding transmit prana into the rotation leaves incineration out of it, where +1 level actually gives a good bost to damage
>>183079414
So actually very low damage between prana5 and prana6?
>>183079642
It's a matter of rotation indeed
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>>183080735
Stop projecting.
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>>183081072
>So actually very low damage between prana5 and prana6?
So actually DO YOUR MATHSURPISE
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>>183081072
Did you forget that divine might gives 5 seconds more to prana
You should always prioritize divine mighting that
>tfw cleric3

>>183081073
looks like I hit a nerve
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>PD2 shitposting will never end
can this game just die already?
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>>183079401
isn't that moonie
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>>183081072
>TOS
>rotation
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Which options do I have of a stick stat on the main hand for SR3?
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>>183081424
Yeah, should have gone cleric 3 instead of divbris, but the cooldown statue was appealing to me
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>>183081762
Isability for budget, Regard Horn for rich bitch, Solmiki for straight up retard.

Alternatively to Regard Horn, Purine Pevordimas with 2 slots.
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>>183081424
You sure got me there, good job!
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>>183080874
>>183079862
they didnt send them (yet?)

and >>183058723 looks actually really nice
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>>183081762
Chrisius Shooter, Isbaility and Silver Hawk.
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>>183082091

Silver Hawk is good for in between Isbality and Regard Horn. With Pract as low as it is I'm considering moving my SR up to Silver Hawk+Double Stack.
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>>183081765

diev is better imo, lol

bokor > diev > cleric 3
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>>183082449
Don't, just get an Aspana and ignore Double Stack and Silver Hawk.
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>>183081762

as >>183082370 said

I would also add chapparition shooter. It's a cheap Isbality: has three slots ans gives some dex too. If you're rolling a limacon bot, you don't need damage on the main hand
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>>183081765
Nigger just buy a DM gem
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>>183082859
>even considering bokor
Yeah opinion disregarded and trashed
The only real choice is between
diev1, cleric3 or priest1
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>>183082940

I'm not farming swords nor am I investing all that silver to buy them. The revolver recipe is expensive as hell on my server as well.
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>>183083008
how are they called?
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>>183083206
Instead you'll waste silver on a halfassed weapon combination? What're you even playing for? There's no point "upgrading" to Double Stack + Silver Hawk to run the 140 dungeon.
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>>183083354
Corylus Gem
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https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1049

Can't wait for some delicious UMI DA fanarts. Perhaps we'll be finally getting nuKlai+fishing update.
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>>183083376

I use the SR for general farming. You're suggesting I invest into a 20mil recipe and over 60mil of swords instead of just using 2 practonium I already have. There's such thing as an in between option you know. It doesn't have the cheapest shit or the most crazy expensive.
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>>183083104

you probably never used used chapparitions
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>>183083435
fanart contests are so fucking gay, but I guess it's the only job for losers who go to art college anyway
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What is the point of Terralion? It seems much more cumbersome to make than Max Peta and Max Peta is only slightly worse in mdef.
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>>183083706
I use them on better things such as OOB, Possession, Transmit Prana
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>>183083992

well, higher mdef and higher awakening options

these mats used to be easier to get when people grinded at evac, but terranium was rare back then

now terranium is cheap but no one grinds these mats, kek
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>>183083992
People suspect that Terralion will have a "max" version in the future.
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>>183083992

The only person I know of who made it is easily the most stupid person in this general, if that tells you anything.
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>>183084219
Yeah, Sw**z has a really low IQ.
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>>183084212
They sure are taking their sweet time if they are.
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>>183083690
for SR3 farming you want an aspana though, you literally melt stuff. Is it expnsive? yes, unless you do like me and grind it yourself (took me a small month with work) but the payoff is well worth it
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>>183084212
People are retarded
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>>183084569
Are you stupid?
You realize that Aspana is worth well over 100 millions right?
That's going to take forever to pay off, investing that much in a farming class is stupid
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>>183084716
The entire point of investing in a farming class is to farm faster, but there's no point in even playing this shit game so who gives a fuck. just b urself m8
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>>183084716
>>183084569
>>183084908

manamana+11 is fine. Farming for aspana is literally autism
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>>183084604
No bully please. baka
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>>183084908
The entire point of investing in a farming class is to make money
Spending 50m extra on just a revolver for about 15~20% more efficiency on your farming will take you FOREVER to break even
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>>183084131

>oob
wat, explosion? that's fine but you can do both

>prana
prana is a buff that snapshots your current matk and it lasts a lot, you pop a potion -> prana -> cancel prana -> attack to enjoy that potion

>possession
different potions type have independent cooldowns, anon
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>>183085078
50m literally takes a couple of weeks to farm, no wonder you're so averse to putting money in, you suck at the game.
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>>183085089
There is literally never a point in time where I have cooldown for a potion open but none of the above skills to use
There is never a point in time where I would be able to use chappad effigy
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>>183085179
Or you couldve just used that 50m to actually gear your main instead

When will you see payoff on that 50m?
When it takes you couple of weeks to farm?
In 5-6 months? fucking top kek
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>>183085179

Are you deliberately being dense? It's not about farming 50mil, it's only worth it if you make 50mil (which, by the way, it's closer to 60mil for the swords+the recipe) extra than you would have.

In other words, if it's 20% more efficient, if we're being generous and saying an aspana costs 50mil, you would need to farm 250mil for it to BEGIN being worth it.
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>>183085179
How can you be this stupid?
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>>183085089
you dont need bokor to use a potion
are you saying that you activate chapp then spam lvl 5 effigy
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>>183085394
>gear your main
For fucking what? My main is already geared, bitchboy, and you know what I do on it? NOTHING. THERE'S NOTHING TO FUCKING DO ON IT BECAUSE ET IS BORING SHIT I DO ON A FUCKING TAOIST I SPENT 400K SILVER ON.
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Moonklai is cute!

https://my.mixtape.moe/hclniq.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/ilgyxc.webm
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>>183085483
Even then, putting that 50m into shards for your main and just farming on them wth a trans weapon shortens the efficiency gap even more. Dedicated farming chars are a meme.
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>>183085657
Save the money then retard
Faggot you can't even argue shit, you're just moving goalposts now
If your main is geared why even bothering gearing your farming char since theres nothing to do
Just quit you nolifing loser
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>>183085179
You realize you don't get 0 silver without Aspana right?
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>>183085089
FOR FUCK'S SAKE CHAPPATIRION DOES NOT SNAPSHOT YOU FUCKING IDIOT
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if you don't plan to PLAY SR3, there's no need to invest into it

simply because if you invest on your fucking main, you will farm mats faster/better, specially if you're playing swordsman
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>>183085089
> cancel prana
care to explain?
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>>183084716
And if you farm the fucking mats like I said to do it costs you nothing, just time which is all this game is anyways; wasting time. If you want to continue being a shitter go ahead, I took the effort to make my aspana and make 10 million a week on that character alone
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>>183085894
>Everyone forever saying it does
>Suddenly one guy in thread screaming it doesn't but won't make a webm to prove it
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>>183084991
>playing autism: the game
>doesn't have autism
I have bad news for you anon
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>>183086043
Time is money you fucking idiot.
It takes around an hour to get a single sword you little shit
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>>183085785
>why even bothering gearing your farming char
>theres nothing to do
you answered your own question in the same sentence. I am saving money now that I have an Aspana, I have 300m in the bank and I'm sure there's Necros with literally billions in the bank. When new shit comes out, it won't even be close to attainable for you poor ass niggers that haven't been farming on 20 accounts since day 1.
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>>183086060
there was a discussion on the thread yesterday with evidence too. Chapparition does not snapshot
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>>183086043
Are you retarded or something?
You not selling the items and instead using them for that shitty aspana costs you the potential profits you couldve gotten from just selling them
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Did they fix the Orca buff giving all 4 rewards? I can't get anything anymore.
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>>183086156
You couldve had more money if you didnt make that aspana :^)
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>>183086324
They did.
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>>183086037

oh the animation kinda stuck you, so you jump cancel it and proceed into your stuff
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>Chapp cards don't snapshot for Prana
>Mole cards DO snapshot for Wugushi poisons

WUGUSHI WINS AGAIN!
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>>183086043
I can make 7m a week on my SR3 with barely any effort with my manamana +8, so with those numbers it would take you 4 months to start make the aspana worth it if the price was only 50m (which Im pretty sure it wasn't).

Investing on a farming character besides bare minimum is hardly worth it.
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>>183086385
so you cancel prana only to save 0.3 seconds?
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>>183086380
Assholes.
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>>183086387

0*1,80 is still 0, anon
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>>183086380
fuck
Yeah i'm not killing this shitty whale four times a day
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fuk u m*a
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>>183086548
Yeah but with level 70 attribute my poisons are 183%, 176%, and 324% every 0.5 seconds. Wugushi is powerful!
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>>183086324
They should have lowered the HP of them.
Half of the niggers afk or/and pretend to do dmg with there useless autoattacks.
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>>183086387
>Chapp cards don't snapshot for Prana
We still don't know that.
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>>183086721
Ehh stahp, this is a n-no bully zone!

What are you even angery about this time..
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>bought 315 blue pistol
>+13 it
>transcended to stage 5
>farming my mats wit this
>just have to break the pistol if i need the shards
am i doing it wrong
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>>183087260
not really
But you lose 10% of your shards
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>>183087260
>>183087382

also, consider that offhand is the cheapest kind of weapon to trans.

Stage 5 blue revolver = 32 gems
Stage 5 Sarkimis = 59 gems!
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>>183087382
which is about 5 mil loss including the pistol
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I wan't to know who the fuck optimized this game and kick him in the balls while using spiked boots
>Bought brand new Laptop
>12gb RAM, good graphic card, i5 processor
>Game gets to 6-10 FPS in dungeons
A server based game shouldn't run like that
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when I shatter a weapon for shards, the game give me back SHARDS or GEMS?

Remember that it takes 50k to craft a gem
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>>183087814
works on my machine
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>>183087814
>gaming laptop
kek when will they learn

Just to give you an idea
my IBM thinkpad from 2003 that I used to level and afk on my necro with has a similar performance to that
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>>183087926
shards, not gems
pay up goy
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>>183087926
shards you autistic pennypincher
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>>183088120
>>183088047

did a quick math and let's say a stage 10 two handed weapon get shattered in the next path so you can upgrade your new one...

you would need to burn ~16m to craft all the gems again!
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>>183087713
>2h weapon costs almost double
>Paladins get 2h weapon
FUCKING TRICKED AGAIN
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>>183088391

almost double in comparison to a blue OFFhand weapon

skull smasher (one handed) vs two handed orange will be

48 gems (one handed orange stage 5) vs 59 (any two handed orange) gems.
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>>183087991
it's not a "gayming" laptop, it's just a laptop I use for working and on which I installed this game. Not gonna spend money to build a computer tailored for this game
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>>183088364
>He doesn't have 16m and nothing to do with it
It'd cost 16m just to get 1 or 2 practs to make a new weapon.
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Why haven't you farmed a terrallion yet anon? Don't you know that it's obviously going to get a max version of it?
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Has Disenchant ability any use? Was thinking of taking one point off healing factor and get 1/5 disenchant
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>>183089560
>Max terra when the WB update introduces orange accessories with set effects

Hehhehehe.
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>>183089560
solmiki medal > max terra
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>>183089945
>orange accessories
>when solmiki's set effect is much better
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>>183088604
I wouldn't break my Skull Smasher for the 2h version anyway, pointless considering Paladin does no damage anyway and there's no content where anything matters ever for a Cleric. I feel retarded for crafting one in the first place because all anyone wants me for is Priest2.
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>>183090393
Not for magical dps.
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>use mystical cube
>Use the second cube after to get it back
>notice it had 2 seconds left on it, when last time it had 5 minutes and I used it immediately
Why does the timer keep going down? Am I going to lose the cube?
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>>183090421
Can I have your Skull Smasher senpai? please?
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>>183089896
>1/5 disenchant
>10% chance to remove buffs
>not a single mob in the game has a relevant buff
>you'll never hit anyone with it in PvP anyway and even if you did 10% chance
>PvP
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>>183090545
>wizcucks and clericucks think they're dps
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>>183090616
Fuck off, I'm using it. I'm not falling for the 2h weapon meme because Paladin does no damage anyway. If anything, I'd reroll Chaplain and use it on that.
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>>183089896

I never understood what that attribute does.

desu, if that attribute did something good for pve, I would gladly remove points from incineration to get 5/5 disenchant. incineration scaling is SHIT
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>>183090560
It has a 5 hour expiration and there's a 2s cooldown after opening the Mystical Cube before you can open the Unstable Cube. You're probably just remembering wrong.
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>>183090660
Can it remove Rexiphers reflect shield thing?
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who still plays this game
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>>183090917
I suppose so, since the timers both appear in a similar spot. I thought it was a 5 minute expiration, not 5 hours
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>>183091105
me
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>>183091105
Does logging on to open practo boxes and do events count as playing?
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>>183090874
Incineration in general is pretty fucking trash. I only use 1 point in it and maxed Beak Mask just because it looks cute. I'm prepared to get fucked in R9 when Incinerate gets some retarded damage attribute or something.
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As an Yuropoor, should I play on the EU server or the cool American server?
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>>183091471
Take points off healing factor instead, it's kinda pointless as skill
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>>183091685
just b urself
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>>183091685
many english speaking euros play on klai. the ping is fine
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>>183091685
try both?

I got ok ping from EU to NA. But timezone difference can be annoying.
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>>183091685
probably fedi, don't really know how ded the server is
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With some HP regen gear, con and and, lv 15 healing factor will surely be meta
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>>183092040
>>183092054
That's the thing.
Ping to NA East should be fine, but I rather play on Euro.
But if Euro is dead as shit and all the cool kids hang out on Klai, I rather play there.
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>>183092258
klai is more alive than fedi for sure. but timezones might screw you over.
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Is arde still a meme? Or did something better replace it?
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>>183092860
Elemental Damage got removed in renewal.
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>>183092860
there are some better Daggers now, higher lvls
https://tos.neet.tv/items?type=Dagger&stats=add_any&order=statd&f=1

But property dmg is not that good anymore, a strong 2Hand Weapon (like Staff) can be much better at high lvl
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Please post some Miko builds.
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>>183091471
>>183092175

I'm with >>183091471
Healing factor is a great skill if you play a static class like Inquisitor. Sure you have safety zone, but it will deplete quickly with 10 mobs around you hitting you. So casting healing factor+safety zone and then Breaking wheel is excellent, as you continue to regen health while hitting the wheel and even when Safety zones depletes you'll still be covered.
If you use PD2 you have a "fire and forget" kind of damage, so you can cast BDS/Inci/Pandemic/whatever while still being mobile, so being tied to a HF tile is sub-optimal.
>>183092860
It's good on AutoAttacking classes as it adds something like 1000-2000 dmg total, which can make the difference between a 3shot and 4shot ko, Most of the time you're better with a shield like didel and red gems in it. On non auto attacking classes Doesn't make much difference
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>>183093390
cleric2 diev3 migo whocaresgodieweeb
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For anyone who doubt Healing Factor's power, try Sadhu PD.

OOB strips ALL your def and you can STILL FACETANK SHIT on healing factor like a madman
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Hunter is a fun class, but wasted potential. There's so much room for improvement besides fixing the pet AI.
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>>183094184

it's a pvp class so they can't buff it too much

it's like giving Kino a 700% matk mod on Gravity Pole, would totally kill elememe
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>>183094184
ToS is a fun game, but wasted potential.
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>>183093390
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4iii.1829364751
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>>183094445
good build
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>>183094589
T. Hanks

I handcrafted theorycrafted it since day1 of ICBT
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4eeeeeeee.1f2f354f5f6f7a8a

nigga, you can't understand
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>>183094905
noob, chap inq is better anyways
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>>183094016
That's why you cast safety zone before OOB, so you won't be affected by status/knockback too.
If you use HF and OOB you can still be silenced or knocked back and then you'll be under heavy damage.
OOB experience is only needed for astral explosion (Autoattacking while in OOB os just stupid when you get to PD). Casting Safety Zone gives plenty of time to OOB+Astral Explosion. It gives enough time to OOB and Prakriti the fuck away if you'll need it for whatever reason.
Healing factor is just not needed on a SadhuPd2 imo, but it can be nice to sit on it if you need a break/all your skills are on cooldown for some reason.
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>>183094905
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4eeeeeeee.1f2f354f5f6f7a8a
B E S T B U I L D
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>>183094957
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4cccccccg.15253545.41657485
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For paladin's restoration, when the attribute says it heals sp, does that mean the normal sp regen just gets +1? Or does it make it so that your sp ticks up constantly
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>>183095283
It means your normal SP regen gets +10 per attribute level.
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Please post some ACTUAL Miko builds, thanks.
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>>183095691
WALL
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>>183095393
so is it worthless then?
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>>183095691
I would genuinely play that build
PD has too many good skills and not enough points

Its honestly my only reason to still play this game while I wait for R9
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>>183095691
>Those google searchs
lost
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>samefagging
>you have to be 18 to browse this site
>build wall
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Have you worshiped Gabija today?
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>>183095691
Kek at Google search result, good job anon
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>>183095818
It is if you're full SPR, if not it's okay. It's not like it costs a lot to max, it's literally 5000 silver you cheap scumbag.
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>>183083435
UMIDA
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>>183096020
No, shes not my goddessfu
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>>183095691
LOL are you a genius? I have literally NEVER see something so clever before!
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>>183095659
Guys please, I don't know how to make a good Miko.
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>>183096856
post more lewds and I'll give you one
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>>183096856
of course you don't you retarded fucking weeb, make a gun and shoot yourself instead
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>>183096856
Why is she blushing and shaking her lower body so much?
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>>183097050
She got a cold.
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>>183097050
I usually take off my pants and lay down next to a fan like that during the summer because I'm too poor to afford AC.
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>>183097249
Well if she covered her buttocks then maybe she wouldn't have gotten a cold
Blondes sure live up to their reputation of being dumb
>>183097376
That's even worse
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Just post some Miko builds PLEASE.
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>>183097994
look me up on tosbase bby i got u
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>>183097994
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111227ih.1f21345a6a75.13213a45516595.14253541.1121334555.15556184
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>>183097994
will you be my migo gf?
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Windia Rod Or Vienarazis Mace For a full INT heavy SP consuming build?
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>>183098238
Mace because you can use it on every character in the game, besides Archer, but who the fuck plays an Archer in R8?
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>>183097050
>she
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>>183098397
falconers and SRs
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>>183098238
>full INT heavy SP consuming build
LOL
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>>183098731
>Falconers
Support sluts for ET, would be better off playing a Taoist or Chrono because they require much less investment and are much better at being support sluts.
>SRs
Farming class that requires more investment than both Corsair and FF2, and if you want something to farm 140 dungeon you're better off with a Scout because all you need is a 315 blue bow to 1 shot everything in the 140 dungeon.
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>>183094994

I know, anon. I'm just mention how strong HF is even on a 0 def scenario
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>>183099048
>would be better off playing a Taoist or Chrono
yeah but you still need one in order for phys classes like doppel to work much better, circling + aiming is really good and I'd rather have a falconer than a second chrono.
Also, geared sapper fwees can take care of DPS checks on their own (other than 31F because of the high amount of flying enemies it has)
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>>183098161
Thank you!

>>183098778
Yes, you can.
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>>183099306
it's strong but it has practically no use on Sadhu3PD. So it's not really strong
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>>183098778
I do it to my wife sometimes when I feel like messing with her. it's the kind of thing where you have to hit the exact spot with the right pressure though, so you don't really use it as an "in the moment" thing, I prefer to do it for lulz
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>>183099694
Yeah, but you don't need a doppel, you can just use an elememer.
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>>183099989
well yeah you probably won't bring a fwee if you have no doppel or murmnobi, even though it still helps elememe with aiming on bosses + hail
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>>183099717
No you cant. Orgasm requires a Plictic nervous stimulation and there aren't such things nor in the womb itself nor on the belly.
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>>183099950
>>183099717
Now I'm going to be trying this for weeks, thanks a lot nerds. I figure it's better than putting things in my ass though, since I'd ruin my dildo.

>>183098238
>heavy SP consuming
Just buy SP pots, they cost literally nothing since renewal.
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I just had two words with a SR3 that said that running/ Fast money dungeons were 170 and 200, while I always thought that the best dungeon for this was the lvl 140 one, as it gves the most ammount of money for the time spent inside it.
So, which are the best SR3 farming dungeons?
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>>183100828
You get around 330k for each run of 170, 250k for each run of 140. Don't know about 200. I prefer doing 140, much faster but my SR also isn't that well equipped. So maybe with aspana and better gear overall its worth doing the 170/200.
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>>183100196
t. virgin
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>>183101649
keep believing that you can make a woman orgasm with "muh weeb womb massage" because you've ssen it on an anime gif and then see how they'll laugh at you as soon as you try.
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>>183102219
>woman orgasm
what are you, a numale?
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>>183102348
>he never made a woman orgasm
top kek you faggot
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Hey, new player here. looking for a guild ):
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>>183102813
cuck confirmed, enjoy raising my children
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>>183102954
Hey
>):
try https://forum.treeofsavior.com/c/A-category-for-all-things-related-to-guilds
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>>183099717
Don't go Cleric3, it's useless.
Maxing Fade when you're going fucking Taoist is retarded, that guy is an idiot.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411227i7h.1a2635435561.213a45546595.112a38415565.1121334555.1355617185
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>>183100196
t.virgin
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>>183102954
Whisper Plasnazi- I mean Pla*****ca for a invite to C********d
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Can I go Quarrel Shooter3 insted of Ranger 3 on a SR3 Build?
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>>183104285
just b urself
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>>183104592
find a gf stop being a coward.
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>>183104285
No because it would be fucking useless.
Limacol is a better running shot.
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>>183104592
me too
a/s/l?
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>>183104592
try to give "womb massages" to strangers
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>>183104880
Is this why women like to get hit in the stomach?
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>>183104942
yes
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>>183095691
You missed the play that doctor
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>>183095691

you just fucked up by not quoting my post with the build link, but thanks, kek. 10/10
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>>183106131
>but thanks, kek. 10/10
There's some kind of deep multi layered ironing going on. Or maybe just samefagging. Or maybe some genuine underage newfagging.
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>>183090545
Saw some korean posts saying 7 set Cloth bonus is mistranslated here and it does indeed give matk instead of patk
>>183090702
>hasn't played a Sadhu/PD
laughingwhores.jpg
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>>183106638
>https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/514109
>마법 공격력 +571 증가
you seem to be right.
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>>183106638

Correct, if you go to the kr neet and use google translate you can see that the set bonus is matk in Korean.
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>+11 a HoG with full potential
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Anyone know if you can still psychokino teleport to the unreachable areas in Sanctuary and whatnot? I need to sate my autism.
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hmmmm.......
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>>183107715
In mausoleum 4F, yes.
In sactuary, no.

Some comfy nigger managed to hack himself into there but it wasn't with a kino as far as I remember.
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>>183107804
god damn it.
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>>183107804
Royal Maus 4 is reachable just by questing.
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>>183107717
That looks different from what I remember...
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>>183108159
What do you mean by this
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>>183108028
Not the hidden part, not yet at least
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>>183108432
I think you can. There's a hidden quest where you need to bring a bloodstone to some mausoleum device and you get TPed to the hidden zone.
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>>183107715
>>183107804
Both places are reachable with a kino, Sanctuary takes quite long though.
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>have a cleric
>decide to make a paladin
>comfy as fuck gameplay smiting enemies and being a crusader
what are some other comfy classes?
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#199999999.1f2f3f4f5f6a7a8a95a5

this is the only acceptable dps build, ANYTHING ELSE IS JUST A MEME.
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>>183109537
>5 stat points
Wasted potential. Bad build
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>>183108432
You can for sure.
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>>183108543
Do you just dash diagonally into the left corner of the actual door in sanctuary?
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How do you guys play?

I think about switching to controller control. Keyboard cramps my hands after a while.
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>>183110747
Controller is comfy.
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>>183110504
psychokino's teleportation, in the corner
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>>183111072
Yeah i know it's the teleport, but in the corner of the door, or in the cubby left of the door?
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>>183103389
Is this good?

I don't know, I never played Miko.
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>>183111268
Better than the other.
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whats the most powerful archer path?
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>>183111514
archer 2 sapper 3 falconer 3
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>>183111514

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#366666666.1f2f314f5a657f
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>>183111931
newfags pls
enough of this stale meme
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>>183111129
I think it was the very corner of the room. I tried both though, and for a long time.
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>>183111514
Archer2sapper3musketeer2
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>>183112206

Wugushi is not a meme.
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>>183111268
If you want to add migo to a support build, cleric3 is better so you can channel kagura uninterrupted with guardian saint.
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>>183112247
alright, thanks man. ive been at it for a really long time, but i'll keep goin.
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>>183112665
>90s cd
>60s duration with 15/18 charges only
Guardian Saint is fucking shit
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where the fuck is merigolds
i wanna join
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>>183112665
Yeah but I don't know neither the those skill nor how high level content looks like.

My highest character was 168 before I quit.
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>>183113017
you can whisper majiene too
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>>183112843
also I did it with level 15 teleportation, that might be important.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3yYNJaf-A4&feature=youtu.be
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>>183113156
mine is 15. i'll probably see if i can get a cleric bud to come divine might me
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So.

Klai or Fedi?
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>>183112913

>60 seconds of pain barrier is bad
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>>183113405
15 CHARGES
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>>183113598

>15 charges of pain barrier is bad
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>>183113219
>about 20 players
so very not dead
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>>183113774
Take this one last You and fuck off
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>got the gatcha with the class quest skips right away
>still waiting for literally every other patch from 3 months ago
>[hehehehe intensifies]

Will gaming ever recover from this?
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>>183113219
>whale channel
>yellow
>not red
dead server
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I don't quite get the Statue of goddes Zemya Statue skill. Does the "Decrease 24SP" part mean that every skill I cast in it's radius costs 24SP less? Seems like a quite powerfull skill if that's the case, how come I don't see it casted as often as Laima/owl statue?
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>>183114086
He got there first and didn't bother refreshing the channel counts.
I was there and channel was completely full.
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>>183113401
Fedi
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>>183114197
No memes?
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>>183114145
>Decreases the SP cost and SP recovery time when using skills for nearby allies who are within the radius of the Goddess Statue.
??????????????
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>>183114194
ne pizdi suka
where is the proof

>>183114145
It does that but its just not really good
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>whale event ruined, need 4 boring kills per day
>guess a number event only has 2 good rewards: stat and skill reset potions, but both take 20+ days to get and last only 2 weeks
>Solmiki parties dying out left and right
>guilds dying
>no content patch again
>more pay to win added
>this general is a retarded dumpster
>game losing more players
>no new players, just alt accounts / gold farmer accounts / botters
>no new content
>nothing to do but farm
yeah fuck this unfun game
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>>183114267
If you're from EU then no memes.
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>>183114494
Fug, thanks for reminding me to do the event today.
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>>183113401
>>183091685
>>183091941
>>183092040
>>183092258
>>183092424
just b urself

try them all and play where you want, if you got decent ping and time does not fuk you
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>>183114951
as european I actually chose klai for time zones. When It's morning here it's 4 a.m in Klai, so optimal when I need to farm material as there aren' t many people around. While when it's evening here it's afternoon in klai, so people will play. Current time zones would be better, but they're not bad considering most of us play in the evening and you're probably gonna have more people on klai at 3p.m than on fediman current time zone 8 p.m
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>it's another "I took 1 new class at every rank" dungeon run
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>>183115638

Someone in my guild unironically has a character built like that that he kept through the resets and says its the best pvp archer build.
>>
post cannoner builds
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>>183115638
>>183115721
>just did daily grind mission with a cleric/krivis/bokor/sadhu/monk
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Could someone explain this to me?
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>>183113036
kagura: channeling skill that gives melees +60% final damage, but easily interrupted even with safety zone
guardian saint: pain barrier for 18hits, usually enough for a full kagura channel unless boss has lots of multihits
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Could someone explain this to me?
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>>183114494
>playing tos for fun
mental problems
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>>183116735
>20160405
fuck I've been here way too long
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>>183116383
old 'hacks'
its fixed now

>>183116735
she is a anime master
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbh3.112f3c51667585.1f3f4152617685.15253144.13223545

this is my next build and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

Now I just need a cheap runecaster voucher.
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>>183117294
why the cryo at the end?
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>>183117215
I literally just found it on the market.
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>>183117468

electroCUTE and a better use of the isa rune. Even at lv 5, ice blast hurts a lot. in fact, even pike and bolt hurts
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>>183117484
Yes, its still on old crafted Items but can not be done now anymore.
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Keep or reroll?
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>>183117715
Ugly
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>>183117715

sell it and buy another to try again
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>>183118196
I have other 9 enhanch scrolls. Why is it a bad roll? +1900 HP is quite good imo
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>>183118373
No one really needs hp now
He says sell it, but no one will actually buy it for more than the price of the hat lol
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>>183118373

1.9k hp is not bad, that why I said sell it. It's a good enough roll to be worth selling it and trying again. Rerolling it would be a waste
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>someone is spamming megas wanting to trade a pract for a shinobi voucher
is the quest even that hard?
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>>183118793
price check for it?
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>>183113219
>whole server came to kill event boss that takes them hours to kill
>i-it's not dead! s-stop this meme ;_;
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>>183118801

pract is 7m on my server so I think it's worth it. It's the only good hidden class at the moment
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>>183119584
appraiser and runecaster are both very good for niche classes
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>>183119764
I like the concept of Runecaster as a kind of "has powerful skills with long cast times and little synergy" wizard but IMC has pussied out on letting those skills actually be strong. It's basically Rune of Ice: The class and will stay that way as long as IMC is terrified to let people cast while giant.
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I'm the best chap PD now
>>
New guy here, can someone give me a rundown of the classes?
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So who is still playing this game that is in this screen?
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>>183120598
There's 60 classes with multiple times you can take them so you better be more specific.
https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/
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>>183120598
Wizards are split between summoners, nukers, and non-healing support. Swordsman are pretty much exclusively DPS or tanky DPS. Archers are ranged DPS with some powerful offensive support skills. Clerics are heals, defensive skills, and have good base damage out of the box but are out damaged by the other trees with investment.
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>>183120849
Well I'm just starting so idk what to do but I don't want to ruin my character.
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>>183121176
Is there something you played before and you liked? What's your favorite gameplay/class style in MMORPGs? Any weapon you like or would like to use? You can start from that.
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>>183120671
>being in a /tosg/ guild
>being /tosg/ at all
shake my fucking head oniidesufamtachi
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>>183120598
swordsman: highest damage dealer, can resist CCs, there are no tanks, only damage dealers
strongest meta builds:
highlander3 barb1 doppel3: all around 2h sword damage dealer with high AoE damage and sustained damage
pelt1 hop1 rodel3 shinobi murmillo: 1h spear + shield, highest burst and DPS in the game but low sustained damage
archers: in a bad spot right now, not very good atm, best archer builds are either farmer or support builds:
strongest builds:
archer 2 ranger2/3 appraiser SR3: crossbow + pistol rider that farms fast with pistol
archer 2 sapper 3 falconer 3: support that increases AoE of your team and deals damage with traps and a falcon
wizard: Strong support and damage, but it doesn't have a lot of variety. Summoners exist but they're shit, only used to afk farm.
Strongest builds:
cryo 3 chrono 3 sage: support that increases your party speed while having CC from cryomancer
wiz3 ele3 warlock 2: "vanilla" caster (elementalist) that has very good AoE DPS
Clerics: Very strong in this game, some of them have damage, all of them have heals. There's a lot of strong cleric builds, some of them are good for party play, some of them are very good for solo.
Some strong builds might include:
something priest 3 chaplain something: buffbot, good for solo play, deals a lot of damage with autoattacks
cleric2/3/bokor1/diev1 sadhu3 PD2: AoE DPS class that has pretty good damage for being a cleric while still having heals and some other support skills
cleric2/3 priest2/3 something something taoist: full support that has a lot of build flexibility and is desired in the only endgame content
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>>183121362
ikr
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>>183120671
Me. I'm the one in the barell.
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>>183120298
Madman
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Fp strongk
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Now that we have the hidden class vouchers...

When we will reach the NEXT STEP? Yes, I'm talking about rank reset vouchers. Member that stats reset is a whole other thing
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>>183119584
>>183119764
>>183120114
sure, it's a good class, but is blowing 7m on a quest that worth it? Or is the quest easy and only casuals are buying the item?
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>>183122754
I wouldn't spend it. Especially now that you can just go and do the quest while most of the people who would be waiting for the flowers just waste money for it.
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>>183122754

quest can take several hours because of that fucking flower at alemeth. It's not about being HARD it's abount being boring and rng

some people can make more money actually farming than doing that quest
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>>183120671
me in the middle
>>
How can I join the 4chan guild? Sorry I'm new!
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>>183123549
>I can't read the OP
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>>183123549
contact a guild leader, see OP
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>>183123549
>low iq
pm Voxandra
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>>183123726
How do I send a PM?
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>>183123968
/name Voxandra
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>>183123968

Don't do this, they are baiting you. The 4chan guild are these two:

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)

as you can see in the OP.
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>>183123968
>>183124023
>>183124102
and see OP
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>>183122627
OG FP
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>>183124023
You're tricking me! It was actually /w!
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>>183124389
I miss pedropan
>>
How much does a Sage Wall cost nowadays? Haven't seen one in the market for a while now.
>>
>Guy literally bought out all of competitors blessing with like 400+ in stock
I feel like I should be bringing my pardoner here.
>>
is the capri sun set still usable? i havent played in a while
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>>183124102
cute is full, fuck off
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>>183126845

retarded went to my spot with 2x 90 spr rings and selling blessings for 1k

so I started to DO IT FOR FREE until he moved out
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>>183127314
I have a guy who sets up every time I actually go play on my pardoner or go restock then leaves when I come back. It's kinda spooky.
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>>183127721
He's intimidated by you, be nice!
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>>183127996
>Not intimidating and driving away the competence out of your territory
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>>183128358
>not peeing on the goddess statue to mark territory
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>>183130383
Corsair in the front is 10/10.
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>>183130383
>he forgot to color the black haired girl in the middle
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>>183130383
Is there an image with just the chronomancer in it?
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>>183131362
Yes

>>183131056
>>183130579
No
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>>183131056
She fucking creeps me out. Doesn't fit with the rest of the pic. Like a Japanese horror ghost.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/fan-art-festival-hot-hot-summer/366564/8

Slut.
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>>183131612
the whole image is just a bunch of different hoes pasted in
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>>183131967
And one really super gross dude
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>>183135431
AAAAAAAAAA
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Why do all of Klai server's Klai city repairmen overcharge by like 100 times?
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>>183137383
Get back to Fedimian or Orsha you poor shitter
We do it because it sells, even if people sell at no profit I still get my sales at 145
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>>183137383
Stop buying repairs at the ch1 statue.
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>>183137560
I notice them on channel 2, just checking people near that 3k blessing guy.

>>183137435
>We do it because it sells
No one is seriously buying repairs for 100,000+ silver
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>>183137985
Buy repairs by the merc mission npcs. Nobody gouges up there.

Also the reason people do it is that 100000 looks a lot like 10000 when you're not paying attention.
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ALIVE!
That means only 20.41% stopped playing after the resets ended, in contrast to the 20.13% dro- o-ohh...
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>>183138118
I wish that worked with the market board
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>>183137985
I sell out all the time
Sure its not as fast but I keep selling out
And no repairs cost that much not even full solmiki
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>>183135431
But girls can't love girls!
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>>183138701
You don't understand this conversation. Please leave it.
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Why is upgrading so fucking rigged? Getting through +6 to +10 is a nightmare and your chances are supposed to be the best here.
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>>183113219
>LOOK, PEOPLE CAME TO KILL EVENT WHALE, ALIVE SERVER! STOP MISSINFO WE NO DED XAXAXA
>Channel is yellow
>Average whale fight on every other server has red channel and sometimes people late to the fight can't even enter it because it's full
FUCKING PATHETIC
Why he doesn't make a video of actual server activity like showing how many people are in queue outside dungeons, population in DPK farming map or other things like that instead of showing 50 people showing up to kill the event whale proving the server IS DEAD because the fucking channel didn't even gone past yellow LMAO
Are all the Fedimemers this retarded and pathetic?
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>>183139009
Because people don't understand the multiplication rule of probability.
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>>183139249
why so angry about a server in a game nobody plays?
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>>183138746
>deny the existence of lesbians
>assuming there gender
Oh snap.. get ready for full force tumblr army going for you'r butt
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>>183139662
I am not angry, i am laughing at them
They believe 50 people fighting the whale means server is alive when they can't even get the channel on red
These poor guys are almost cute
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>>183138813
keep being a penny pinching loser
you can stay out of klaip
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>>183139949
no, cute is on klaipeda
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>>183113219
>tfw there are more people in half of the guilds in OP than in that server wide event video
/tosg/ confirmed to be more alive than fedimian
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>>183138332
Huh, I'll have to give you some new material now. There were two post-release growth months before, May '16 and January '17, and in both cases adding their gains and the next red month's losses gives exactly -10.45%. Adding up the recent gains from April 17 through June 17 with -20.41% gives +40.46. That's a full 50.91 percentage points above expectations.
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>>183143687
You have to substract 1000 players worth of just alt accounts logging in
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>tfw no more caros to farm
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>>183144809
Dumb rodent
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>>183145576
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>>183124797
I missed healmage
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>1 potential
>+8
>clearly going to be used on a Falcon3 support
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>>183145669
>not inserting gems before enhancing
enjoy your gutted bow
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>>183146003
?
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>>183146003
Gems don't influence the anvil upgrades, the sockets are all open and thats what use potential
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Considering Broom Trap has 100% crit rate would be Yellow gems worth a thinking on Astra Bow?
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>>183146640

considering that high investment involves glass moles, no.
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>>183146934
I don't have glass moles, and the announcement of the card systems changes kinda stopped the grind for them
Making 8 lv10 glass moles isn't exactly fast
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>>183147020

We'll probably still keep 3x moles

depends on the rest of your gear desu, falconer skills aren't bad, multishot too.

maybe 1/1/1 red/green/yellow, kek

also, you farmed the hardest weapon in the game and don't even saved a few potentials for diamondo anvils, lol
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>>183147107
too poor for diamon anvils
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>>183147184

you're poor now but what about next week? could have save 6 or so potential to ensure a eleven

rip ;_; I'm feeling bad for you
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>>183147107
If you think Falconer does DPS you are delusional
I am not saying it's as bad as a CryoChrono ice blasting and Ultimate Dimension but everyone just want the Falcon to keep aiming up
Broom Trap under circling is decent but that alone wasn't worth an Astra
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>>183147516
I have golden anvils
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>>183147526

you can easily blow 2m per combo as sapper falcon, easy there, doppelnigger
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>>183147716
meanwhile the Elememe next to the falcon blow up double that with just hail + aiming.
On boss broom trap is shit because no good circling expand to use in 90% of boss fights, on WBs it's 100%, the first no baby floor in ET is 31F dps check where there are flying mobs and guess what? Broom can't hit them.
Broom Trap is the only skill actually doing some damage in the whole Sap3Falcon3 but it's worth only on ET baby floors and faster Saalus chore
He wanted to craft Astra for his Falcon3? Ok, it's fine, his time his practonium his silvers but that bow means absolute nothing for his build, would even stay at that + 8 1 potential left but by all means i wouldn't try to go +11 with diamond or golden anvils imho, just not worth.
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>tfw discovered the secret farming spot
I thought you fucks were just memeing
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>>183148337
This,for be a viable Falcon3 you just need Aiming
Circling:Expand is bonus working only if there are atleast 10 enemies under it for your skills or if you have a physical dps in party

t. Falcon3 who is just an aiming bitch and if for any reason aiming isn't up 110% uptime i get beaten by my dps masters and their chrono mistress
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>>183149439
We need to tell the rodent to keep up aiming every ET
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>>183149519
Aiming can have downtime if falcon use manually damaging skills instead than through preemprive strike or if the roost gets killed and the bird fly away when preemptive strike or circling expire.
Sometimes it has downtime if either target ot falcon move too much and go out of range too
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>>183148743
I need you to tell me the secret farming spot location to verify if it's actually the secret farming spot
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>>183148743
>>183150227
>implying that there's only one secret farming spot
which one are you fags talking about anyway?
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>>183150694
Mine is the super secret farming spot
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>>183148743
see >>183150694

>>183150227
>implying this isn't a trick to get anon to reveal the secret spot to you

>>183150786
which one is that? personally I use the secret spot that's hidden in plain sight
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Does tosg even have any resident artists entering this?
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>>183154939
No and you should have let us die, we were so close to fall in the abyss after pagr10
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alive
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>level an archer to SR

WTF This shit is OP.
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>>183156729
No it's not, archer are just that underwhelming and awful
SR is nothing but a silver farmer
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>>183156537
I didn't think oppai mouse pads could be more degenerate, yet here we are.
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>>183156853
Well that's what I made it for. It's pretty op for mob cleaning.
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>>183157260
not even that much
the more tanky the mobs get the more silvers you need to seriously dump into SR
SR just has speed but overall the damage is very low
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Should I level a Doppel for muh dps or a SR3 for farming?
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>>183158213
use ur brain moron
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>>183159646
Rude
>>183158213
Doppel will be cucked on r9, go with SR
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>>183159646
us you're brian fegit
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>>183160035
>doppel
>cucked on rank9
>implyning it won't be SR getting cucked when IMC with their 10/10 decision will preview archer rank9 and there won't be any pistol based class making SR3 a dead end like Corsair3 right now
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>>183160035
>Doppel will be cucked on r9
okay retardo
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>>183160269
SR is getting buffed inKtos, and it's a farming character anyway so r9 doesn't change anything
>>183160295
It will be sweet to se you crying over your useless doppel in r9
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>>183160441
i don't give a fuck about what's getting nerfed in r9. it's at least half a year away and we'll probably be getting rank resets anyway. enjoy your shitty """"FUTUREPROOF""""" build though. retard.
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I'm trying to make a Hackapelle.

How much CON should I get if I'm no hardcore player and just a casual?
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>>183160441
SR buffs on Retreat Shot are good
But unles Kim will make a rank9 archer using pistol as their main source of damage SR3 is gonna be be very cucked
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>>183160961
0
CON is PvP memes only
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>>183161171
Limacon is all you need to farm with SR3. A decent gun like manamana+11 or better and you can farm money quite easily.

Do agree that rank9 might be shit, and we'll proly go back to picking something for a small boost but we'll see when it comes out in two years at this rate anyways
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>>183161297
But rank 9 in korea will come at the end of summer according to guava
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>>183161369
pretty sure he wasn't saying that at all, he replied end of summer to something else.
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Just came to say goodbye. Can't play this train wreck anymore.
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>>183161885
Fuck off
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>>183161885
at least namedrop yourself with a pic of your character if you're gonna do that, anon.
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can't wait to knock out the orb/gem/other 10k dpk garbage when the patch comes
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>>183161291
But Hackapelle is a close range archer with shit HP.
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>>183162976
and nothing in this game deals substantial damage.
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>tfw having serious troubles finding people for Saalus
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>>183165396
join a guild
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>>183165735
People don't want to saalus
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>>183165819
in mine they do
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>>183165735
He's the guildmaster
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dead :c
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Alive
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dead
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ass
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tiddies
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numbers
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>>183168027
>>183168103
more I need to jerk off again
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>>183168205
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>>183168205
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>>183168167
What kind of people even play this game?
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>>183168725
Cute girls of course!
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>>183169381
Tiny pets when?
In before they cost a character slot[/spoiler[
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>>183169381
the single most misleading thing in the game
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FREE TOKEN TOMORROW
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has left.
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>>183113387
level10 is enough, tho we made it with a diev. so dm+laima
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>>183107715
i think the hidden zone in mau 4f is accessable at 9pm (or some other specific time). but we still managed tele in it months ago when there's enemy tower in that area
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>>183173348
What are you talking about?
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>>183174219
About you're mum's period starting tomorrow and so she'll be doing it for free.
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>>183174219
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1044
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Just saw someon with a 60days token. Since when do they exist?
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>>183174931
>https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1044
oh whatever it's just a 7days token
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>>183175162
Of course. And how do you know when someone has a 30 or a 60 day token?
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>>183175162
since founder's pack
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RRREEEEEEEE
Where is my fucking backbones?
RRREEEEEEEE
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hm
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is this game still pay to cute?
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>>183175162
>tfw just used my 60 and 30 day tokens from founders pack
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>desynch right when the whale is about to die

I HATE THIS FUCKING GAME

I HATE THIS FUCKING EVENT

why did imc think this was a good fucking idea for a event

FUCKING IDIOT DEVS
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How do I become a goldseller like Jace?
My secret spot brings me too much silver I don't even know what to spend it on.
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>>183180181
You still get the buff even if you desynch or your game hangs.
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>>183181362
just grind @ tenet 1-50 and then rush dungeons til 317
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>>183181362
is that you?
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>>183183191
Fuck off with your avatarfagging already there's enough brainlets in this thread
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>>183181731
i got vga'd and i didnt got buff

>>183183191
tenet garden, yes. some people get boosted
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>>183183662
>i got vga'd and i didnt got buff
You just need to keep the client open. It happens to me everytime.
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>>183169381
>>183171460
R9 Mergen will have a small bunny summon! You'll see!
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>>183183694
>>183183191
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This DPK system is retarded, what were they thinking?
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>>183185818
It's not retarded, it's just badly implemented. The counter should be personal.
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>>183186007
>it's badly implemented

Yes, that's exactly what makes it fucking retarded. Good observation.
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>>183186007
>personal counters
>MMOs
That's not how it works
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What's with this game
>Nice comfy visuals
>Diverse if completely unbalanced classes
>Weird levelling rollercoaster exp
>A damn class skill that you can open a shop give people gender reassignment
>Somehow the only MMO I've played that makes me want to just be a subby cocksucking gangbang bitch

what the fuck
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Did they fuck
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>Migantis Cannons cost more than Pevordimas Cannons
I know Migantis is farmed less, but goddammit people.
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>>183192405
why are you playing a shit class anon?
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Is there a way to remove monster gems from weapon/armors without loosing them?
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>>183193217
No
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>>183192779
Because I like it and it's fun!
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>>183193245
who the fuck it would be a good idea to make 7m gems break every time you want to upgrade euipment?
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>>183190142
That's Rose, she was tentacle raped.
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>>183156917
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>>183193370
>>183193217
Normal gems downgrade by 1. 'Only' monstergems break.

just... dont use them on some low/mid lvl or trash gear which you replace in a day?
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>>183195470
But normal gems do break to if their level gets below 1.
>>
Those events and gacha cubes completely killed the gem economy.
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>>183195605
well yes, but i expected him not to be a that big bitch to complain about Lv1 normal gems
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>>183195470
Not complaining on normal gems, just on monster gem. I didn't put it in the equip yet, knowing that r9 might come out in 1-2 months or whatever, with better weapons
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>>183196157
>putting a monster gem in a weapon
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>>183196157
that is enough time to farm/buy another

and there is not even kr preview yet... it'll be more than 2month
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>>183194751
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>>183197256
Translate it, ToSsers
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>>183198043
"i wear poors clothes"
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>>183198043
something about dark skinned non-tosg guild guys
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>>183197256
>tfw you'll never find a qt gf who just joined the game, made a cryochrono and was looking for someone to support slut like you
>>
is there any class combination i can play that requires basically 0 silver investment?
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>>183186498
>shared system that pressures players to drive each other away and solo
>MMOs
That's not how it works. Personal counters that encourage partying and cooperating with other parties to speed up spawns would be multiplayer gameplay.

>>183190142
No, she fucked her brother, not the dog.
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>>183198695
C-can it b-be on Fedi?
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>>183198695
I always feel bad for supportslutting chronos.
There's no way they are having fun just by following people around and cast haste/quicken/pass every now and then.
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>>183198901
CryoChronoSage
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>>183198908
>making getting drops competitive
Yes that's exactly how it works
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>>183198908
>No, she fucked her brother, not the dog.
Do you have any backup plan to approve this statement?
>>
>>183199158
No, making it anti-social isn't how it works. Unless your goal is to make everyone quit.
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>>183198912
Orsha what should be the ultimate place to find a qt NA waifu
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>>183198912
lmao, no one plays there falseflagger
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>>183198901
CryochronoSage
ThaumalinkerFF
Falconer3

I'm sure there are others, basically anyone who is moreon the CC and non-scaling support side of things. It's not that they can't benefit, they just won't benefit much and will flil the role with that bare minimum
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>>183199745
>Falconer3
need to spend like 25m

>ThaumalinkerFF
a few million into thaum attri too

>CryochronoSage
can be played without spending
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>>183199596
Competition implying two parts interacting which is the definition of social you fucking retard.
How the hell having a PERSONAL dpk would help socialize?
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>>183199638
I do!
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>>183200135
>Falconeer
Agree on that

>ThaumFF
Not really, maybe 10m total if you wanna solo but for farming basic cheap thaum attributes suffice

>CryoChrono
No silver needed, agree on that
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>>183200317
Nigmo, competition implies interaction indeed. So how is map-shared DPK going to help with interaction when players will be constantly trying to avoid each other and/or shit on each other because of "stolen" dpk?
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>>183200135
They will easily pay for themselves.
Thaum swell left was only 50k, right is 3.5mil~ but you can get that while farming it's covered by 2 drops (a single swelled kill!)

Fal3 definitely does need the attribute but you can gain that, it's not a rush at all.

SR3 can also make profit with almost 0investment Of course if you do want to invest though it gets costly.

(You don't NEED limacon spread to get money from dungeons, and it pays itself off in those dungeon runs in 2-3 days), Manamana is also piss cheap to get itself, but I won't list SR3 because it scales well enough that it's worth it, however it is another class that easily pays for itself thus, 0 real investment, it can get it's own money and then generate more.
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>>183200560
What's the best cryochrono build?
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>>183200560
>maybe 10m total if
yes, that is not much. for you and me. but maybe it is for a new player
or the anon asking really want to spend 0 silver, on a alt acc or whatever
can be 'much' for some people..
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>>183200709
People like to be aggressive over being altruistic.
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>>183200709
channel-shared DPK is shit because if I'm better than you, killing faster, stronger, I can't drive you out. You just CC and you have a chance of profiting off of my work.

Map-shared DPK means I can just follow you around and kill it first. Some classes will get abused by this to get ezpz KS'd, but I personally have never had a proble with KSing, I think it's part of the MMO expercience.
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>>183200709
>dpk
>people are encouraged to killsteal others because how chance increase every kill

>no dpk
>everyone avoids each others and fuck off to other channels to get all the spawns for himself

Which one helps interacting I wonder?
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>>183200803
something like
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888e.35.11213f415a7585.1121315a6175.1131415185
skill points dont matter much, after you got max hasta+pass+tree
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>>183200803
First 3 cryo.
Then 3 chrono.

>>183201016
Actually for anyone that really understands DPK there's no point in KSing others with current DPK (cross-channel, psuedo RNG or 'top down DPK'), it's better to just swap maps and keep up a good killing pace, thus increasing your chances dramatically over the other, each kill especially at a higher DPK increases your chances more and more. You have to be pretty unlucky to hit the point where it's liek a 20% drop, but the issue is that if you do it comes on QUICK, too quick.
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>>183201210
>cross-channel
It's not.
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>>183201403
ya it is
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>>183201527
No it's really not, pretty easy to test if you find an empty map with lots of channels like Kugheri Lyoni's one.
>kill 2-300 lyoni
>switch channel
>kill other 2-300 lyoni
>switch again
You can easily get over 1.5k kills this way without drops, which means DPK is not cross channel.
You should get 1/1 drop chance at around 1~1.2k kills.
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>>183160269
>>183160295
>>183160441

All that SR needs is a crossbow compatible class, retards

You went Ranger 3 and have money for a good lv 200 main hand xbow, right?

As for doppel, as long as the new class is not weapon locked to spear, rapier, axe, hammer, or whatever, they will be fine. Worst case scenario people go Sword 3 for the sw2barb3doppel3 builds, gung ho 15, pain 15 and double slash are better than most shit archers and wizards get at r8

I can even see Sword 3 Hl 2 Doppel 3 Barb 1 being a thing, I would definitely play this build.
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>>183202062
>crossbow compatible
That's a weird way to say pistol.
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>>183202062
>crossbow compatible class
get a load of this dude
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183201426
Very wrong. How rude.
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>>183202062
>SR skills use pistol has main source of damage
> what it needs is a crossbow based class
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>>183087227
>>183203054
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Why is doppel so beloved?
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>>183203263
>muh hihg dps
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>>183203319
but ya need to invest heavily into it, is extremely fragile without support and getting 1st place on bosses doesn't really mean a thing
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>>183202964
>>183202567
>>183202169

We are not getting a pistol class, that's why I said we need a xbow compatible class, retard. You keep your aspana and buy the next level cap good orange weapon to abuse your new class boosted by Steady Aim and you use Limacon when your new shit is on cooldown

how hard is to understand this?
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>>183199046
I think it's fun to play as every once in a while, since I'll do it with friends on a voice chat and we'll be dicking around and doing troll shit like stopping enemies and ice walling. don't think I could main a cryochrono in pubs though
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>>183203704
>You don't get a class that scales off your main weapon
>i-it's ok
Yeah, next you'll say Doppel should Lancer1 as r9, since you just need to weapon swap right? :^)
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>>183201827
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=985
>Y: It’s a secret but… it's bound map-wise. For example, if there is a monster with 500 DPK on Map Z and User A kills 100 monsters on channel 1 while User B kills 100 monsters on channel 2, both players have a 1/300 chance of an item drop.
?

With top-down DPK, even if you got 1500 kills we don't have the datamined numbers for Kugheri Lyoni to prove that its DPK isn't actually 1500+. Statistically, it's far more likely to get the drop before ever reaching close to the DPK value.
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>>183204054

You fucking retard, pistol is a offhand weapon and you still use a xbow on main hand

your pistol will act as a stat stick to your new skills and vice-versa

I specifically said that doppel will be fine with a new class not locked into: spears, rapier, shield, axe or whatever
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>>183204246
Oh wow it's not like never had a misstranslation before right? Just look at Solmiki Cloth set bonus.
Kugheri Lyoni DPK was around around 500~600, that was easy to test.
Progressive DPK just doubled all the DPK values, so yes we know it's 1.2k at worst.
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>>183204440
Yes you retard but most SRs invest only in their pistols since all SR skills scale with it and not with main hand.
You can have a stage 10 +30 Aspana, but if your new class uses main hand damage you'll need to invest into a crossbow, so yes that means you'll be fucked.
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>>183204683

There's a reason offhand weapons are the cheapest to upgrade, moron
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>>183204925
So fucking what?
New class doesn't scale with your main weapon = you're fucked.
Not hard to understand.
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>>183204525
What could be mistranslated? The words "map" and "channel" are both used in that sentence, and if you replace "map-wise" with "channel-wise" the rest of the sentence doesn't even work.

Why would you doubt translations, but you wouldn't doubt that IMC could've increased the DPK by a random factor, or just random numbers in general for each individual monster?
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>>183205118
Because you can empirically test stuff you moron.
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>>183204991
well you still can choose the ranger3 you missed or the appraiser class if you chose ranger 3 before. Nothing changes.
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Wow.. god emperor RMJ is so toxic.
didnt expected that..
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>>183205713
Yeah but remember how much r8 powercreeped r7?
I guess that's not true anymore in renewal however, but who knows how OP r9 classes will be.
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>>183204991

>fucked
>when my limacon will still be relevant

lol
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>>183205890
Never forget 12k base damage Malleus Maleficarum
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>>183205954
>when my limacon will still be relevant
>implying
QS3 sure was relevant in r8.
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>>183205890
well, they'll give rank resets hopefully
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Full STR SR3 doable?
Can't find the exact dex/str sweetspot with my 0.16 to 0.27 ping
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>>183206330
Why would you even play SR3 without attack speed?
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Is SR3 farming 1m per hour on Timery a meme?
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>>183205231
>With top-down DPK, even if you got 1500 kills we don't have the datamined numbers for Kugheri Lyoni to prove that its DPK isn't actually 1500+. Statistically, it's far more likely to get the drop before ever reaching close to the DPK value.
You won't reach the DPK value through testing without being the unluckiest person in the world (1500+ for your example).
Test these numbers for a 10 DPK:
After 8 kills: 1 - (.9*.8*.7*.6*.5*.4*.3) = 98.19% chance the item drops. So through testing, you would almost never think it has a 10 DPK, you'd think it's only 8. After 9 kills, you'd have 99.64% chance, so you still could assume 9 instead of 10. And here you think it's a hard 1200 DPK now.
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>>183206707
>You won't reach the DPK value through testing without being the unluckiest person in the world
Are you stupid?
That would be true even while killing 300 mobs each channel then, if the kills where channel-shared.
But it's not, the number of kills you can reach before a drop channelhopping is far higher than the worse I ever got a drop at (1.1k kills).
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>>183206330
You'll regret it, Im stuck full str wise and while i kill shit easily, i don't do it fast at all.
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>>183207218
Channel hopping seems really inefficient to me, red mob spawns seem to be channel bound based on number of kills and always spawn near you so you miss those chann hopping.
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IMC logo it's a fidget spinner lmao
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>>183205231
Show your proofs then
>inb4 test it urself lol
sorry I dont play on dead servers where people dont join maps
meanwhile devs provided information straight up as facts
Its on you to prove it wrong but you have no proofs because you're an autistic triple autist
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>>183206707
>After 8 kills: 1 - (.9*.8*.7*.6*.5*.4*.3) = 98.19% chance the item drops
That's not how it works lad, not dropping it at 2, 3, ..., 7 kills are not stochastically independent.
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>>183208727
What the fuck do you want me to show you, the number of kills before and after I started?
My proof is an empirical experiment that proves how the theory of channel-shard dpk is wrong, you can redo it anytime you want and you'll often get the same result (the chance to drop an horn at 0 to 300 kills is low but not 0).
I'm not making a fucking 2 hours long video of me killing kugheris.
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>>183209097
ya you're wrong, channel shared dpk is definitely a thing. sorry that your server is so dead that you can't test it out!
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>>183206045

nope, when you invested 70m
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>>183209398
>sorry that your server is so dead that you can't test it out!
but testing it out on a dead server is easier you absolute retard.
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>>183209097
Yeah that means you have no proof fucktard
You're just claiming random shit because the droprate works just fine for me and what you're saying makes no sense
Kindly fuck off you retard
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>>183209584
Well then where's the proof it's working?
IMC is not a trustworthy source so that doesn't count :^)
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>>183209770
The dev is a thrustworthy source
you're a shitposter
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>40m for a solmiki gloves

is it okay?
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>>183209879
>The dev is a thrustworthy source
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>>183208769
Ah, damn, you're right, I hate statistics. But the general idea is still the same, reaching the actual end DPK value without a drop is incredibly unlikely.
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>>183210041
Yeah it is
your memes wont help
You're just a lousy shitposter with no facts to back any of your claims up
No one will take you seriously but have fun and continue living in your paranoia
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>>183209879
>imc
>trustworthy source
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>>183168317
Hews is a god.
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>>183209879
They said the progressive dpk formula would stay.
It's already removed in korea.
Not to mention that post was translated and IMC is known for bad or plainly wrong translations.
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>>183209897
the Plate Boots?
40 is not much, but they suck
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>>183210535

it's a leather gloves.

crit rate, 1 aoe ratio, massive def and a nice accuracy
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>>183210698
>leather
sounds good for dps classes. and 40 is nice for them
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>sorc summon dmg will be based on WEAPON ATK AND SPR, not necessarily MATK

why they hate thauma so much? I planned to go this build full spr

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2127aaa66.1321354551.14354571.11243545.1f3d41516a75.1a213141516a7185
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>>183211294
Quite sure they said magic attack.
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>>183211426
No, patch notes said weapon attack
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>>183211426

by atk I meant weapon power alone, as in ONLY YOUR WEAPON MATK SOURCE will count on summon attack. int, buffs, hats and gear will be ignored
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>>183211463
>>183211494
Oh, that's quite sad.
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https://j.gifs.com/wjQM9r.gif
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>>183212140
Spike in vagoo
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>>183212140
>korean whale doing content almost a hundred levels below them
Is it supposed to be impressive?
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>>183212140
Why every mob aggroes her? Summons have no aggro limit?
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>>183212461
>whale
>her RHP is not even shinning
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After a ThaumFF for farming, a Sadhu3 for HG solo and a CryoChrono I' levelling up a SR3. Stop me before it's too late please, I'm falling for the sr3 meme
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>>183212850

it's a good and cheap trash farming class
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>>183213121
thaumFF is usually already for farming. Just takes more time.

>>183212850
Depending on where you are in Archer, you can still roll into a decent Musketeer
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>>183200317
Did you somehow get access to post from prison? You seriously think driving people out of maps through harassment is good socialization.

I just explained how personal dpk helps people socialize.
>Personal counters that encourage partying and cooperating with other parties to speed up spawns would be multiplayer gameplay.
What part of that did you fail to understand? With personal counters, partying is more efficient than soloing since you don't lose items when other people get them, but you do get credit for their kills.

>>183200981
>>183200996
Why are you playing a game that has no open pvp? It's clearly because you suck too much to handle a pvp game, so you have to hide behind the protection of being unattackable.

The vast majority of players prefer coop over aggression, which is why all the successful MMOs are coop and solo pvp is never relevant.

>>183201016
Play the game. These things called parties exist, and spawn rates are proportional to how fast monsters are being killed elsewhere on the map, so trying to get all the spawns for yourself under no DPK is shooting yourself in the foot.

>>183201210
Harassing the other player into leaving guarantees you a drop with shared DPK, and killstealing reduces his chances of getting the drop. Farming on your own only gives you a chance.
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>>183213794
>dividing kills means speeding up drops
Are you stupid?
In 2 you're not killing at twice the speed, and in 5 you're very fucking far from 5 times the killspeed of someone soloing.
Mobs are limited in a channel, even with personal dpk the most efficient way to far is alone.
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>>183213418

oh you can't compare swelling and waiting for cooldowns to limacomfy
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>>183214524
so, thaumFF for material farming and SR3 for money farming?
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>>183214524
Yeah but farming orange mats net's you 2.5m/h, can you really do better with SR3, considering dungeons runs are limited?
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>>183214845
Only if faggots actually buy what you're selling. Shit sells so slow on the market.
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>>183214845
Tymeris is about 100k per 5 minutes + gems with SR3. Not as much money but comfy.
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>>183214845

of course not, the point is playing the game in a such a way were I only do this 25 minutes of SR farming, saalus on my main and 290 clears and have fun/logout
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the secret fo farm tymeris with a undergeared SR 3 is parking your own pardoner to renew blessing in the middle of the map
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>>183214845
bullshit lies
t. thauma farmer
you need to be lucky enough to get the drops
I'd say you get one drop ever 2 hours on average which is doubled so 3m every 2 hours which includes the silver
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>>183215284

that's so slow, lol. I could get 2-3 lyoni horns per hour on my fencer
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>>183215260
STOP!
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I love how they filled low level maps with treasures and then later said "Fuck it, every map treasure will be a useless collection".
I'll never get a lvl 5 tresure chest key for that sweet mergen hat
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>>183215284
You're shit at farm lad 1 drop x2 every hour is very doable.
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>>183215260
nice anon. nice
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>>183210698
depends on the mat, but yea, something like 2.5m per hour is doable.
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People who choose Appraiser instead of ranger as rank 5 class are just too lazy to upgrade their weapons.
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Is musketeer a good class or it's better to follow everyone and do a SR3?
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>>183216665
I do love my qs3musk running meme with the rifle, but it's not that great.
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>>183216665
they deserve different roles, depends on what you want to do.
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>>183216665
Musketeer is comparitively underwhelming nowadays, but if you like it, gopher it.
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>>183216665

sr3 will always be better but musket is fun
limacon will always be better than every archer skill, it doesnt need a nerf but maybe some other skills need buffs again like running shot
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>>183214443
>but you do get credit for their kills.
Do I need to translate that into portuguese for you? How is it "dividing" when you kill one mob, a party member kills another mob, and your personal counter goes up by 2, dumbass?

Your next move will be to claim IMC would never give credit for party kills because they're stupid and hate their players. We're talking about hypothetical systems and they never implemented party-ignoring individual dpk counters either, so that's irrelevant.

>Mobs are limited in a channel
No, mobs respawn faster when they're being killed faster, red mobs spawn more when there's more killing, and you can't travel across the entire map faster than they respawn.
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Meanwhile on alive servers
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>>183218069
If Klai were alive people would actually buy my 315 mats.
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>>183217316
>Your next move will be to claim IMC would never give credit for party kills because they're stupid
>increasing droprates by 5 times is stupid
It's the opposite, to keep the economy stable they would have to multiply the dpk values by 5 because not farming in a full party would be retarded.
In this way people are forced to party to farm and you'll have tons of people abuse the fuck of this drop system by multiboxing and afking.
Hell, with a thaum and 4 other random alts accounts you could easily get 10 drops for yourself in the time you'd take to farm 2 before, it's pants on head retarded.

>No, mobs respawn faster when they're being killed faster, red mobs spawn more when there's more killing, and you can't travel across the entire map faster than they respawn.
True but a party of 5 doesn't even come close to 5 times the killspeed of someone soloing, it's faster but not that faster.
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>>183215528

>lv 5 treasure key

corsair, anon.
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>>183218239
No one in their right mind would buy 315 mats right now
We're getting the droprate patch soon
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>>183218310
>soon (tm)
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>>183217229

running shot doesn't need a buff when you can mix qs3 with the only good archer class (falconer 3)
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>>183218310
Are we even sure the droprate patch will actually make things easier to farm?
We never got any feedback from ktos and mianigger.
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>>183218487
mia got cancer, please send your condolences ;_;
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>>183218382
so archer2>qs3>sr3 would actually be good?
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>>183219363

No, don't do that.

Limacon is literally GOOD RUNNING SHOT, but takes r/6/r7/r8 ranks of your build.

My point is: running shot still has a niche because you can take falconer 3 together with it
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>Seedmia
LOL
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>>183218487
rude af
this is a n-no bully zone!

>>183219078
no
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>>183218487
>implying that we'll ever get the droprate patch
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>>183212510
It seems like yes, I had never noticed
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>>183218487
mia is extremely useless when it comes to info about ktos updates. as expected from a c*l nigger T B H.
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>>183222436
Reminder Mia was one of the misinfo fags pre-renewal attempting to claim afk farm wouldn't work anymore.
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what a dead general
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leveling sorc is suffering
I just want to be a necro already
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>not playing zombie captain doctor
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>>183224208
Everyone was telling me that Transmit prana snapshotted with glass mole and so it made sense to me that Sadhu doctor would be better but now people are claiming that's a lie so I once again have no idea why nobody wants to play Bokor with its 4 second CD 1.5k% nuke.
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>>183218264
The real increase would be lower than 5x since you wouldn't automatically have 5 people all the time, but it's still an increase, and drop rates would be adjusted based on test data if they don't want the items to be easier to get. Partying would be far more efficient, and yes, partying is how MMOs work.

>afking
If they're completely afk while a friend does the work, they won't be picking up drops (personal dpk drops would have to be lootable only by the guy with the dpk to make distribution within the party fair). To stop them from getting silver or having the killer tell them when there's a rare drop, give them an activity timer and fix existing problems like afk leeching exp at the same time.

If they're macroing or botting to collect loot, that has to be detected just like regular botting has to be today. Yeah, IMC has a terrible track record, and we already have AFK necros ruining the economy. At least having them ruin an item drop economy instead of the silver economy would limit the problem to one sector of the economy and console regular players by giving them cheaper items.
>multiboxing
That's similar to botting. You could easily get more drops with less effort by running bots today if you're sure you can avoid getting banned. Multiboxing requires a bigger investment than regular botting, so it would only take a few occasional bans to discourage it.

>True but a party of 5 doesn't even come close to 5 times the killspeed of someone soloing, it's faster but not that faster.
Your claim was that people would rather be alone in channels. Even if teamwork is only slightly faster, it just has to be enough so players agree it's the faster option.
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>>183224368

I'll test this for you my man, I just got my free 5 tp, going to remove another chappa from my mage and put it on my doctor, wait a little bit
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>>183224368
cause sadhu with transmit prana still does more damage
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>>183224502
>>If they're completely afk while a friend does the work
>ask guildmates to afk while you farm in your party
>once it drops pm them on discord or whatever
Not that hard.

>That's similar to botting.
That's completely wrong, multiboxing is allowed and completely unbannable.

>Your claim was that people would rather be alone in channels. Even if teamwork is only slightly faster, it just has to be enough so players agree it's the faster option.
Only with your retarded system, if it's 1 drop ever 500 kills it wouldn't be faster at all, since you'll need 5 drops or 2500 kills to make everyone get one.
Even if someone is killing at half the speed it would be far faster to solo, as it is already in the game.
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>>183224368
effigy is ok but nothing impressive, damballa is ~18k% on a 10s cd though
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>>183225424
Effigy 15 has 530% skill factor at zero attribute, hits triple damage on 3rd hit with 3 overheat on 4 second CD, and has a 30% (end?) damage boost from a hexing attribute.
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>>183224368
>>183225116

hwlep, it seens that it really doesn't snapshot your matk
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>>183226245
Why the fuck has everyone been hyping it so much then? Even if you account for like 6k magic attack it's essentially slightly better self-blessing.
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Bokor is fine but frustating

Effigy spam is the most boring shit to do. Zombies eat your heal tiles. You eat mana like madman because of hexing + pandemic + effigy spam.

The only thing i liked was samediveve when i tested it during the reset event.
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>>183226365
You have 2 skills that tick every 0.5 sec with PD. Prana it's a lot of damage in the end.
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>>183225319
>once it drops pm them on discord or whatever
see
>To stop them from getting silver or having the killer tell them when there's a rare drop, give them an activity timer

>That's completely wrong, multiboxing is allowed and completely unbannable.
If multiboxing is intended and approved of, then it's fine to get 5x more outdoor drops, just like how you can get 5x more world boss, saalus, and dungeon boss drops solo. I'd ban it, but it's IMC's decision.

>Even if someone is killing at half the speed it would be far faster to solo, as it is already in the game.
That's why I prefer my retarded system over your retarded system where everyone has to solo in what should be an MMO. Players shouldn't be punished for bringing a friend who kills slowly.
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How does prana work?
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Quickly! Post something cute!
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>>183226365

Prana is already good blessing, anon. It's literally a blessing that dones't cripple your build (prana goes full int so spr lags 900 matk just for this alone) and scales with transcendence. IF it worked with chappas too...wew lad
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>>183227661
>your retarded system
>your
Dude it's IMC's.
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>>183228367
he said cute
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>>183228367
fuck off my dude your kind isn't welcome here
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>>183228367


too japanese to be cute
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>>183228430
>>183228464
>>183228478
ya'll gay af prob a bunch of sissy betacucks
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>>183228367
>cute
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>>183228547

don't get me wrong, son, but pure japanese girls are shit

need to mix a bit with whites or even latinas
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>>183228547
Japs are literally the white beta nerd males choice of woman
wouldnt touch that trash with my 10 feet pole
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>>183228682
>need to mix a bit with whites or even latinas
That's exactly what happens when you mate with a pure one
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>dying game
>soon eligible to transfer over to /ammg/
>/ammg/ is now completely gone
>now this general has nowhere to go and going to fade just like them
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>>183225784
Damballa can one-shot mobs with 1m+ hp on a 10s cd. Lv6 is 905% unattributed multiplied by the zombies exploded (10+), effigy is alright but it doesn't even come close. I don't think even sadhuPD can reach that(?). Bokor3 is almost an elememe in aoe dps on a rank5 budget, although it's still trash at against bosses though.
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>>183231685
What is ammg?
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>>183232001
What's that addon on that webm that is showing your pattack and stuff? It looks to be really useful.
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>>183232162
Stat Viewer by Excrulon
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>>183232162
>It looks to be really useful.
It's absolutely useless.
It's just that retards like to install every fucking addon they find. The more bloated their game is, the more overloaded their UI is, the more """"efficient""" they are.
It was the same in WoW.
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>>183232162
>>183232252
>>183232947
it's not one of the retard useless ones at least. this one has a lazy "I don't look at stats when buffing" perk
>tfw people have high noon installed
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>>183233335
>>183232947

I used to like it to check my phys atk when mole is up but now we have the good mole/chappa addon so...
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>>183233335
what's high noon?
>>
>>183233764
some dumb shit made by a dumb 'pvp' streamer
https://github.com/WatchGintama/highnoonTOS
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>>183234138
PvP pre rebalance was bad enough, how in the world somebody can take it seriously right now I can't understand. It's probably always going to suck too, revenge sevenfold and magnet force suck all the fun out of it.
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>>183232001
Sadhu can do that with possession and mole
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>>183235704
ptg
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>>183235938
possession hits for 80k a tick with 10k matk
Yeah its not instant like danballa but also not as unreliable as danballa
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>>183236591
>not as unreliable
>being sneezed at cancels the cast
>>
>>183236768
play the game maybe?
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>>183236591
>10k matk
>>183235704
>mole
Anon please
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>>183236896
What?
He had that in his video where he asked if sadhu can do that?
10k with mole, sadhu will wipe that pack just fine
>>
>>183236973
>10k with mole, sadhu will wipe that pack just fine
>>183236836
>>
>>183237101
kys autismo
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>>183237143
you not gonna get 10k with moles
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>>183237226
if you think that you're being funny, you're not retard
>>
Why are Klaicucks so rude and angry?
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>>183237914
>eurocuck that gets triggered by manly conversations calls other people cuck
shut your traphole and bend over for muhammed
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ALIVE!
something something 21.31%. t-these numbers are ten times better than expected!
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>>183237914
Because that, and fear, is the only 'culture' they have.
Please respect that
>>
bokor1 is GARBAGE TRASH
bokor3 is not muh meta but is decent
learn the difference
>>
>more lore friendly costumes
>especially the F blue one
nice
take that gay weeb faggots
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items?type=Outer&gender=Female&order=cdated&f=1
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>>183238772
Oh God. MY FUCKING DICK.
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>>183238772
>2 x 3 costumes and 2 hats
http://imgur.com/a/P7QaY
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>tfw just fapped to Mia
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>>183240180
Now turn around and show butt.
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and 183240398 no
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>>183238772
>bσ
What did they mean by this?

Interesting that they're not class-restricted this time though, too bad they're probably Leticia.
>Male ones are ripped.
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>>183240398
>fapping to some ugly fat man pretending to be a cute and silly girl
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>>183240526

vakarine definitely confirmed as best goddess
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>>183240398
see >>183201426
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>>183240826
vakarine confirmed knot enthusiast
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>>183240526
I'm gonna steal that Vakarine and put it in my lodge.
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All wrong, she is 미아가 아니야.
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>>183154939
I am. Drawing lewds gave me confidence!
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>>183242184
Keep it up anon!
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>>183242184
I hope you're the guy who did this Koenig masterpiece.
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>>183241701
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>>183243481
>all these fun stuff will be GACHA only in iToS
But WHY!? It's not fair.
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>>183243481
>look up that sweet star hairpin
>given to G-Star participants
>>
>all these summer stuff for act retard and cute
>they are all behind gatcha
ehehehehe
>>
>>183243481
holy shit that slutty tank and panties

is this real or a mod?
>>
I seriously hope those outfits can only be used in towns...

I don't want to do dungeons with bikini sluts, lol
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>>183245124
all real legit TOS
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>>183244221
J: Sir Master Lord Kim, great genius, when will we start working on more actual content for this game?

K: hehehehehe, what did you say? I just came up with yet another brilliant idea to strip these idiots of their money
And I really wanted that new Yacht that came out this year
Look in the catalog
A racetrack inside a boat! Now thats something I can dig
Now get sucking already Julie, and text the art team to start working on the design for slutty end of summer dresses
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>>183245561
remember when fun hats and sub weapons werent hidden behind a rng paywall?
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>>183245583
>racetrack inside a boat
To be fair, that is pretty sweet.
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>>183245873
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>>183245916
Why so early?
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>>183245561
>that fucking hair
fuckboy culture is really fucking repulsive
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>>183245561
>>
Is CM mission the best place to farm portium or the 280(?) HG with the Yognome dropping it is better?
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>>183248310
CM
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>>183213794
Because every open pvp game is shit?

I had high hopes for ArcheAge and they died before it made it out of Korea because they were too soft. Stil gave it a try and their launch was a fucking shipwreck.
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>>183078117
bump
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>>183245950
this
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