/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

1st for not using the etherpad for the OP

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I want a game like CHoDE, but not for space weaponry
And you have to design the gun internals yourself

>>183062405
you've reminded me I probably need to go through the list of games and add some more info and shit some time

>Games that are definitely not /egg/:
>Minecraft
>The general that quite literally cannot be named. The Mexican scam artist one. With the shitposters. Fuck off.
>Hearthstone, found in the hearthstone general, /hsg/, not in this general.
>Shadowverse, found in the shadowverse general, /svg/, not in this general.
>Warthunder, found in the Warthunder general, /wtg/, not in this general.

Why did you include this in your OP, you autistic sack of shit?

>>183062762
Looks lie we need to add more

>>183062762
The will of the /seg/man was that it should be like that
Several anons planned on adding significantly more generals to the list
Still doesn't beat the time all of them got tagged and the people who showed up here by mistake sided with /egg/ instead of /hsg/.

>>183062873
Why the fuck are you lying? You added it to fuck with people's filters and to get this shit general more popularity.

Piss off you autistic shit

>>183062405
I didn't know that was a requirement, sorry.

>>183062762
What's wrong with that list?

Minecraft isn't an engineering game.
Mexican scam game can't be named without causing the thread to be deleted.
Heaarthstone, shadowverse, warthunder aren't engineering games.

I'd argue that Worlds Adrift should be added to the /egg/ game list.

>>183062873
Still no double crossout tho. You're a hackfraud kerbnigger.

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10th for smooth landings

>>183063134
>Heaarthstone, shadowverse, warthunder aren't engineering games.

Why the fuck would anyone say they are??????? you fucking moron

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>>183062928
It was made like the explicitly because you keep complaining.
Learn to regex properly please.
Each of these colors is one person.
So yes, it really was the will of the /egg/

>>183063324
I'm not OP

>>183063401
>I'm not OP
Well shit, I'm sorry, wasn't expecting 2 faggots ITT

>>183063395
We had people barge in and masturbate over virtual cards here before. And posters trying to shill their russian biased games by reverse psychology. Hopefully with this advisory sign on the OP it will happen less.

>>183063395
They complained we showed up in their searches and demanded we change our OP.
This is what they get for being physicians that can't regex.

For every additional post you make ITT, we will add another thread to that list, and blame it on your general. Ten posts, and we use the punishment string. Do not test us. We have used it before and we will use it again.

>>183063395
Each time you post to complain, another 10 OPs will include that.

>>183064721
>And posters trying to shill their russian biased games by reverse psychology
That's hilarious, story?

>>183064941
>tfw too dumb to understand regex
Got a guide that explains it as if the reader was a complete idiot? By that i mean that assumes you know absolutely nothing, not even conventions for shorthands.
Also, what is the "punishment string"? Is it the full name of the general+shorthand or something better?

>>183065351
It's every single general on /vg/ in a string at the bottom of the OP. Last time we used it was when /hsg/ refused to fuck off and stop demanding we omit one of the links from the OP.

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>>183063336

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How do I fix this shitpile mess?

>>183063336
>Not flaring up

>>183066735
stop building your shit on top of coal
open your map
RIGHT NOW, designate where your smelting is going to take place, and which direction your factory is going to go
have fun
give into the spaghetti

Thoughts on the FtD update?

http://steamcommunity.com/games/fromthedepths/announcements/detail/2505541822959103045

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post spaghetti

>>183067815
It has both good things and bad things.

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>>183066935
Flaring doesn't work in Besiege, or at least not with that plane. If you keep the nose up above stall speed the plane just flies up, and below stall speed it drops to the ground. It can't go in a straight line at any significant angle of attack, it either goes up, down or straight.

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>>183068441
Also stall speed seems to be the same no matter how heavy the plane is, it's always around 30 m/s or 108 kph. With zero throttle the plane can glide down above that speed at very low alpha, but if you pull up it will lift up even at just 40 m/s

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>enter storm mode
>get deleted by a 12000 ps vehicle with remote controlled rockets and miniguns.
>for 5-6 rounds in a row

>>183066935
Planes have to be real light in Besiege due to low engine power in general (especially without mods, it takes some real fuckery to not give up make a blimp/helicopter instead), so flaring isn't an option

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>>183071429
You can make good and fast planes with vanilla power sources, you just have to use a bunch of them. This plane has 6 steam cannons without modded thrust values and can almost hit 700 kph. It's a good thing water guns (and basically every block outside of the flight category) don't generate drag too

I think the problem lies more in how lift and stalling works in the game, it's like it doesn't care much about wing loading and how it should affect the stalling speed of a machine

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>>183072173
I just tried adapting this moderately heavy airframe to steam power and 6 steam cannons plus two flying screws can make it fly no problem. It isn't nearly as fast as the jet powered version especially in acceleration, but it can fly

Really all you have to do to make something fly in Besiege is put a lot of wing panels on it and make it move faster than 30 m/s

>>183067824
>electric furnace setup still accepting coal
>8-to-8 balancer that loops half of its outputs over its inputs
>... and then 4-to-2's them
>green circuits waste machine time with longhand removers
Doin well son

the load times in crossout are absurd now

>>183073354
thanks

My ships in from the depths are consistently aiming short, no matter what I do with my detection systems. How can I get my ships to aim above the damn waterline?

>>183074005
>>183074050
thanks

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>>183067824
Your like a baby. Watch this.

>>183074109
make them shoot faster bullets

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How to grilles work? They say that damage passes through, but you still see damage numbers pop up if you shoot them. Is that damage subtracted from the shot, which continues weaker? Does the shot deal partial damage to the grille, then deals full damage when it hits something solid?

Anyone up for Factorio? I m hosting right now. All Welcome Free Game

>>183078721
Bullets pass through, cannon shots and missiles don't.

>>183079150
I can read the tooltip myself, thank you.

>>183079926
Glad to help ya :^)

>>183076208
The bullets are plenty fast, but I can see even from a missile laser targeter that my vessels always aim just a little lower than the target actually is.

>>183080082
Then it's because of the aim point AI card. That thing targets AI cores and ammo blocks, which tend to be on the bottom of the hull. Your vehicle aims there, but don't take into consideration water, that might be why you're falling short.
Try removing that card and see what happens.
Or try to add more tracking devices to whatever you're using to shoot at the other vehicle

>>183068082
What do you think are good and what do you think are bad?
t. Not Nick

>>183080824
After more screwing around, apparently the problem is just that the coincidence rangefinders are useless, replacing it with radar based tracking fixed the problem, kind of. Now it's less accurate, in that the shells have a larger spread, but that spread is at least centered on the enemy vehicles now.

>>183080891
>Good
3x3 and 5x5 turrents, new textures and new shapes for some blocks and stuff
Simple weapons are viable, in fact, i've retrofitted all my planes so instead of using APS, they just use a two-axis turret with 3 autocannons

>Bad
A lot of stuff now has some kind of resistance to HEAT warheads
Missiles last half as long (30 seconds now)
Frag warhead fragments now do less damage the smaller the dispersion cone is set (a fragment 180 degree dispersion cone does more damage than the same fragment in a 10 degree cone)
There are some bugs with optimization due to change of Unity version, before i could have 15k blocks in screen without problem at max. graphics, now i get into "Degraded mode" at over 7k with the graphics at minimum. On top of that, the game's meshes tend to become trippy the longer I play. It's probably some kind of floating point CLANG shit.

Then there's some stuff that's neither good or bad, such as block health and armor points being rebalanced. It's good because you can fight cheese easier, but then again, cheese becomes cheesier. And without the help of HEAT or 0 degree frag, it can get frustrating.
Probably i'm leaving some stuff unsaid, but i can't think of anything else to say

>>183081867
That's weird, maybe you had it aiming in the wrong direction, or disconnected, because in my vehicles coincidence rangefinders work well

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converted my car into a truck

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>>183062928
You are a pathetic pleb if your filter doesn't work. A few char long RegEx will do the job.

are there any games like factorio ?

>>183063707
The only one I see is (you)

>>183084796
Minecraft

>>183082325
>Frag warhead fragments now do less damage the smaller the dispersion cone is set (a fragment 180 degree dispersion cone does more damage than the same fragment in a 10 degree cone)
I think that's ok, the "1 degree piercing frag of death" was getting a bit ridiculous

>>183084796
Infinifactory or heavily modded minecraft

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Where are my eggman?
Wake up!

>>183083951
Teach me regex secrets anon, i've tried to look into some guides but they all assume you already know some of it (or at least that you can immediately understand shorthands and fill in omissions of stuff that is supposed to be "redundant")

>>183066735
shift-space to pause and see the laylines of engineering
pick 4 biggosquares where there are no resource
this will be your first smelting area (the small one)
no boxes untill you get storage chests or you make some niche thing that you only need 10 at a time (I do it with locomotives and pumps)
never build anything on ore patches except drillos and beltos
and press alt once before alt-prtScreening so we can see what's where

it's not as bad as the other anon that had filter inserters everywhere and decided night is a lovely time for screenshots
inb4 it's actually you

>>183071429
protip: ditch jet design, go with dual spinno powered by stack of wheels or chaos engine

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>>183074667

>>183085728
I haven't even got any plane designs saved since I usually focus on what can complete the campaign levels
My best flier is a quadcopter with several auto-running rotors, half of the steering is just tilting it slightly.

>>183085406
Well, let me be no asshole today; I just came from work, no stress, cold beer in my hand.
1: Yes, do guides and tutorials, there is no other way, but also:
2: This helps for fast tests/learning:
https://regex101.com/
3: Get something like Greasemonkey (Firefox) or Tampermonkey (Chrome/Chromium) to add userscripts (you can also learn from other scripts...)
4: Make a script for the 4chan catalog site with your custom RegEx (you know, like a RegExSearch button right next to the regular button)
5: ???
6: Profit!

>>183078721
Try for yourself. They have 90% damage resistance.

>>183078870
ip?
I'm still sperging over my retardobus factory, but I have hit the slowdown point so I might join up

>>183084796
zachtronics
start with infinifactory, go for spacechem later
gratz, you have now developed next level of autism

>>183085406
perl regex documentation http://perldoc.perl.org/perlre.html
page about them going from piss-easy to quite yeah http://www.rexegg.com/
and lastly a version for physicians regexr com or regex101 com

>>183086538
just stopped playing, random normie was sabotaging my factory, fucker removed single pipes for the steam engines,switched train to manual or fucked with the coal. He was clever, took me awhile.

>>183086764
I would offset 1 rail signal by 1 tile
works wonders
or added an extra signal just opposite to the trainstop

>>183086107
That's fucking beautiful.

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>>183086107

>>183088314
It looks like a bunch of boost ramps and cables.

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>>183088314
red belt, splitted, one part goes into blue underground, which goes into red underground which goes into blue underground which goes to the 5 lane of battery and circuitry
wtf?

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>>183088314

>>183089218
and yes, battery not batteries, because this pic is an assault on me and every spaghetti ever made except the filter inserter guy

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>>183089750
Enjoy.

>>183089926
why
for the love of CLANG why

>>183089926
I hope you have fun in the sixth loop of Hell you fucking heretic

What is the best structural engineering game?

>>183091007
hard structural benis in bagina

>>183091007
Some kind of a building CAD
there aren't really any actual structural engineering games besides basic bridge buiilders.
Would love to see a /cbg/ x /egg/ but that level of simulation would need incredible power.

>>183091007
what >>183091439 said
with the addition of mengies if you like lego

>>183082534
No, it was working properly. I replaced it again and even with airships, with a coincidence rangefinder on it decides the place to aim for is right beneath the keel, no aim point selection involved

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first /egg/ cuck game, gues what happened...
#1

>>183089926
i'll be your roundabout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi3Ed-paCE4

>>183093748
>We have seen various mechanisms instead of drones, our construction is unique and maybe it is the first homemade, anti-drone gun.
do you think someone would do that?
just go on the internet and tell lies?

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>>183092902
We did good today!
Well, 331 to go...
>soon

>>183084796
> are there any games like factorio ?
Infinifactory has conveyor belts, but it still has a fairly large puzzle aspect like the other Zachtronics games.

FortressCraft Evolved has some similarities. But it's more focused on exploration; the logistics side is much weaker than Factorio.

>>183094109
All I know is that there are two kind of people, those who read the manual and those who make a leaf blower out of an angle grinder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCHAnKRrFVI

>>183092902
Witnessed

>>183094624

>only the top 30 clans get uranium

>>183096315
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>183095235
>isn't any better than a regular leafblower
>dangerous
>ten times as loud
very /egg/

>>183097029
loudness is directly correlated with functionality

why is /egg/ less and less about spengies? what the fuck happened?

>>183097798
sponges is a pile of shit that breaks all the time and cuckout is new, at least to the majority
it's also free

>>183097798
Why would you even fucking bother asking that
Look at the fucking thing
Spengies is literally worthless, there's not even a grind to occupy yourself with

>>183097798
Every time I tried to do something interesting with spengies, it turned out that it couldn't handle it. Anything with any moving parts will work fine one minute, blow up in a million pieces the next. It's really not fun to have the game's engine as the main difficulty factor.

>>183097798
1. Nothing's changing about the devs' incompetence
2. To fix nearly all off the physics/collision problems, you'd need to re-write the shitty engine from the ground up
3. Because of number 1, no amazing new functions are going to added any time soon
4. Because of number 2, no-one's going to 'mod it better' any time soon

>>183098948
you're missing the fact that if some really talented faggot showed up and did rewrite everything, the licensing for spengies allows KEEN to just take it all.

>>183098184
>Why would you even fucking bother asking that
Because I left the board for about 8 months. I was just surprised to find so few SE content that's all.

>>183099181
That's actually the second best scenario possible following a fan improving a game,
considering most times either most people don't know about it, don't care because it doesn't work with MP or something, or the devs attempting to wipe it off the face of the earth.

>>183098948
>To fix nearly all off the physics/collision problems, you'd need to re-write the shitty engine from the ground up
Why from scratch? Why bugfixing seems impossible to you?

>>183099773
Dunno, ask the dumbasses at Keen

>>183073168
>>183072173
how are the steam cannons staying hot? mods? its much more fun to strap a flame ball on your plane to keep them hot

>>183099773
you don't know much about programming, do you

>>183100007
Do you mean they don't want to fix the proper issues? Because it seems to me every weekly update is doing that.

>>183100514
the core engine is the miner wars engine forced into being a space game
it's not meant for this

>>183100503
I don't know much about voxel engines. But I'm sure you'll be able to enlighten me, will you?

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>>183095235
>who make a leaf blower out of an angle grinder

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>>183100472
Fireballs and torches

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>>183097798
Spengies is old and broken, ChoDE is the new spess hotness. If you could do spengies style EVA in ChoDE it would honestly be the best /egg/ game in my eyes period.

>>183101307
I... had no idea you could use torches. I've been strapping that huge fireball to my planes all this time...

>>183095235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EorMrpM6q9Q

>have a mortar fetish
>have a missile fetish
>generally have a fetish for things that arc and go boom
>ftd doesn't let me do high-elevation indirect fire
>ftd doesn't let me do ballistic missiles
fuck this shit i'm out

>>183100816
when you're an incompetent developer, and you routinely bugfix by hackfixing, and after years and years your game engine is a house of cards, truly fixing problems becomes impossible because for every function you rewrite you have to track down 50 weird dependencies in a bunch of your hackfixes, track down and remove all the hackfixes you no longer need, and eventually you just give up because for every bug you fix, you break half of everything else because your code is a tangled web of hackfixes that nobody could decipher, after years and years of "oh, I'll just add a line here, that's quicker and easier :^)"
ps since you're stupid: a hackfix is when you just add extra code to fix the functionality of a broken function, instead of rewriting the whole function.

>>183095235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2Cy0SDgnq4

I feel like these are honorary /egg/men.

>>183101404
honestly i'd want mexican planet/atmosphere physics in my spengichode
and maybe a bit of construction, too
i want blaneds that don't suck

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>>183101607
Fireballs are good for heating several water guns at once, but for a single gun it's better to use torches since the whole engine unit will be lighter and less complex

Back in the days of the scramjet glitch you could get even more hardcore thrust by combining flamethrowers and water guns to obtain superheated steam scramjets

>>183102031
Speaking of incompetent hacks and horrible game engines(or in this case, horrible unity modules), no you don't want mexico physics.

>>183102259
well not one-on-one mexico physics
FAR physics maybe
i just want a build-your-own-plane-and-fly-it-to-space flight sim
i want my fucking orbital bombers

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>>183066970
>>183085728
I tried

>>183103238
When designating your smelting area, plan for one that is about 100 times as big as your current smelting area

>>183103238
Don't mix belts.
Have any assemblers making copper wire feed directly into the circuit assembler.

>>183092902
Hey i think i saw you in a match once.

>>183103238

>>183103865 this
and
>>183104048 this
and
feed all your furnaces by belts, there is no point in not doing so.
make assembler for everything you need, even if you are not sure where to place it, you can just handfeed until you know. it's still leagues better than handcraft.
rush t2 assemblers and start assembling assemblers.
labs can feed off each others, use it and abuse it.
slap fifteen more coal miners leading to power plant, make nice buffer chest to keep lotsa coal

>>183101639
I think I've gone sympathetically deaf because he isn't wearing any hearing protection.

>>183104048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1x699OfN5I
He's probably long since lost his hearing and is gust great at pretending he hasn't. This guy's fucking great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwWw9g0EgHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXWspo5hrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-e2tAUo89o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxxPyaAT1k

>>183108336
>the jettle
Is like the screams of the damned were forcefully made to heat water

>>183108336
I hate him just because of some of the engineering decisions he makes and the fact he gets paid to do this and funding for his projects when this is literally what I want to spend my life doing.

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i was wondering what gold was used for

>>183109024
>>183108336
Seriously, the props on that hoverbike? Custom carbon fiber props that cost about $5k a piece. And he wrecked a ton of them in testing. IIRC IBM or something was paying for most of the project.

>>183109024
>>183109163
Jealousy is wrong.
Be at peace with yourself and the world around you and enjoy the autism.

>>183109163
I think it was Ford sponsored.
But yeah, it's not hard to be jealous of someone who gets paid to do what is essentially shitposting with powertools and fire, and then gets paid more to post it online to 5M subscribers.

>>183109409
Yes, it was ford.
I know for a fact I can make a better thermite gun, too.

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>>183101404
>> EVA in ChoDE
For what reason? So you can ride a nuclear warhead into oblivion?

>>183102574
But anon, rockets are better than planes

>>183073354
>electric furnace setup still accepting coal
It is only extra effort to remove this function, and it does no harm.
Why bother changing it?

>green circuits waste machine time with longhand removers
IntDell (haha, faggot has a name in his screenshot) is using assemblers at 0.75 speed, meaning each produces 1.5 circuits per second.
Long inserters will be sufficient, provided at least one level of capacity bonus has been researched.

>>183110015
Perhaps patching holes in the hull (would give a reason for those cargo containers to exist, perhaps they carry hull patches or just raw materials and tools). Would be great too to have a simple spengies style building/refining system, so you fly out to an asteroid with a refinery ship or some kind of refinery that drops off your hull, or just a refinery launcher and a magazine of ten refineries. Servers have multiple preset factions that can be tweaked by players, then you use ships you designed so that you have to balance the complexity, size, and advanced materials you use against how much they cost and how hard it is to manufacture them. So while ships like the ones I make are both cheaper and dramatically superior to stock ships, they're also made of expensive re-enforced carbon, two different aerogels, and diamond (used in reactors, drives, and gun components), and so while the overall cost is lower the time taken to build them might be higher due to the difficulty in finding or producing said materials all of which could be simply packaged as needing more refineries or factories, or simply longer build time.

Also yes, so you can ride a nuclear warhead into oblivion. Obviously.

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>>183089926
SUCC

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Fact:
Robots made almost entirely of struts and pistons that are painted yellow are aesthetically pleasing.

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>>183113652
Fact:
Being a mallcop is such a shitty job that even robots prefer death.

>>183114980
dihydrogen monoxide strikes again

>>183115718
Fact: 100% of people who consume dihydrogen monoxide die.

>>183115805
100% of people die.

>>183116176
With that attitude, I'm sure they do.

>>183116176
50% of all people on earth have one testicle

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>>183114980
>Robert Cop will take your job
>what if he water
>???
>I'm the man, fuck machines

>>183116176
>implying we aren't all just constructs of your subconsciousness in a simulation to occupy time while you travel space at sublight speed

>>183114980
This never would have happened if Optical Prime were there.

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>>183119458
I refuse

>>183117247
>implying that invalidates the statement

>>183123564
why do mexicans ruin everything good in this world?

>>183123317
Trajectories mod.
Better plane.
Git gud.

>>183123317
Have you tried lithobraking?

>>183119993
>implying something that was never alive can die
much like /egg/

>>183124993
Something that was never alive can hardly be considered "people".

>>183126140
yeah, I guess not

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>>183126140
Lining or not:
>/egg/
>people
Pick one.

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>>183126519
living*
fuck.

I wanna /egg/. FtD changes have me optimistic, but not excited.

Starmade has started to work on my computer again, but even the dream of making flying ZOE/Armored Core style mecha isn't as exciting as it should be.

Someone tell me there's something fun and multiplayer on the horizon. I wanna like Avorion, but it doesn't have a lot of the systems development I want.

I'm probably going to uninstall Crossout soon.

>>183127479
Skywandererers has mechs and halos and space and galaxies

i think

>>183127479
starwanderers already has ringworlds and mechs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB2axlbHso8
the frog can save both /egg/ and /svgg/
whether he will remains to be seen

So inspired by >>183089926, I started a factory that also processes raw materials in a loop like that picture. Turns out that smelting rock in the same loop as iron and copper will contaminate the furnaces with odd stones, because it takes two to make one brick.

Is this why the linked post has stack inserters? They'd presumably be limited to 5 of the same type of item, so as to satisfy a full input for a single steel bar. Implying that with stack size bonus, I could use one filter stack inserter and one filter inserter per furnace on the input, having the former set to ingest ores and iron plate five at a time, and the latter to take stone two at a time. But do stack inserters halt indefinitely when they can't fill one out?

tl;dr -- how do you prevent 3 sheets of iron from backing all the furnaces up? Also, is there a convenient way to inject 1 coal for every 12 other items that end up inserted into a loop?

>>183128065
>>183127823
You know, when I first saw it I thought Skywanderers was looking pretty underwhelming.

I have to revise that assesment. I'm looking forward to this. I hope PVP/PVE turns out well.

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>when you sneak behind some guy sniping with dual cannons and wreck his anus

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I hate this game

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>>183130161
>when you try to sneak up on them but they expected you so they just wait for you to make the first move

>>183130805
>opening crates
stupid tax

>>183130805
I had 4 crates just teleport to another item while spinning so it would land on shit.

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What is /egg/'s go to alcoholic beverage?
Me and two friends made a goal to finish at least a bottle a day between us a day on a recent comping trip and more than met it. It was only tequila, vodka, and gin without anything fancy though.

Does anybody know the best way to get money in crossout I am perpetually broke and can't do much of anything

>>183132113
>/egg/
>anything other than vodka

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>>183132113
Anythis expencive cv
majbe tide

>>183089926
how to trigger eggmen with one picture

>>183132379
become the jew

>>183132113
Beers, which is CLANG incarnate.

>>183132113
/egg/ opens a brewery when

>>183133245
>engibeering

>>183133015
Teach me sensei

>>183133697
there's a market database somewhere then just learn to flip
then become so rich you can price manip then control an entire sector of crossout's economy

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>>183128929
>stack inserters
Those are filters, dumdum.

>>183133836
Whatcha mean by flip
I kind of have an idea but I wanna be sure

>>183135203
flip, as in the bird
tell things to go fuck themselves

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it begins

>>183136587
>it begins
the disappointment or the wishing for autocannon buffs?

>>183137098
it's a minigun

>>183117247
>Accelerando

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What if there was an alien that was only sentient in it's juvenile stage that became immobile and non-sentient when it reached a reproductive age?

>>183138891
I think there's a sea creature that does something like that. I forget what it's called, though

>>183138891
how would it reproduce though

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>>183138891
>>183139079
Never mind, found it

>>183139095
You tell it to go fuck itself

>>183139793
>sea squirt
>sentient

>>183140228
It's not sentient, but it displays that the other trait [becoming immobile at reproductive age] can actually develop in nature. Just scale the whole thing up for the hypothetical alien

>>183140636
Regression to non-sentience does not seem to be a trait that would persist evolutionarily, since it would be a net-negative for survival chance.

Immobility at sexual maturation is more plausible if still unusual.

I have no idea what this has to do with engineering gaems.

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>>183141017
I don't know either, but at least it keeps the thread bumped

>>183141017
>engineering gaems
space though
because /svgg/

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So FTD just got updated.

>>183143118
Looks better, I like the greener sea. Haven't spend a ton of time playing around in it because I've been busy in ChoDE.

>>183143118
NOOOOOOOOOO! They fucked everthing up again!

>>183144973

>hit scrap cap
>man this sucks
>guess Il earn wires instead
>suddenly stop earning wires
>theres a wire cap too

Man this shits retarded.

>>183146396
Time to get electronics until you hit thhe electronics cap :^)

>>183147034

>get 6 electronics on a victory with 2 kills and MVP

Yeah, nah.

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New player here. Is this normal?

>>183146396
In FtD?

>>183148879
He's talking about crossout.

Instead of balancing drop rates for shit to keep it from flooding the game economy, they just put hard caps on everything weekly.

So instead of having everyone play all week, everybody blows through their caps and then has nothing worth doing.

>>183147689
Pretty much, you can change worldgen settings however you like though

>>183147689
Just open the menu and hit "restart", it regenerates a world with the same parameters. The world generator has no qualms about dropping you on a 10-tile island, dropping you in the middle of a massive forest (which is annoying but certainly surmountable... really annoying though, not worth it), spawning your starter water over one of your starter ores, spawning another starter ore over one of your starter ores, etc. If you get a really shitty spawn just restart, nobody is counting.

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>>183132113
Personally I prefer stout, but cider works too.

>>183147689
If you really hate trees just keep generating worlds until you start in a desert, it's nice, and the maroon desert is really pretty. On the other hand, trees have a big effect on your pollution bloom during the early part of the game; having your factory tucked away in a sylvan wonderland will push back your first lmao attack by quite a bit.

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>>183147689
>filename

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>>183129031
>I hope PVP/PVE turns out well.
>a game with completely fucked movement, building and damage
>well
We're going around again and again.

did they fix engines ?

Light engine used to have same performance on heavy build as heavy engine

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okay so
>playing spangos
>have a huge brick of refineries to process ore in bulk
>refineries are isolated by two sorters, only lets ore in and only pumps ingots out
>have a script that splits ore from full refineries and puts it into empty ones
>works fine until I get to about 30 refineries built
>can move ore via conveyor from one refinery to another, but the script nor any automatic movement can move the ore from a full refinery to a new empty one
>no matter what I hook up or disconnect or restart I can't seem to get the game to detect these new refineries automatically
has anyone had a similar issue?
i'm constantly reminded why I don't like playing spagnos

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>>183153595
just considered it might be faction related bullshit ill have to check

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>wan't to play Crossout
>dual cannon and atgms everywhere

>>183152235

Nah its still fucked. Light engine is the best engine to have on basically any small/medium build, and it also doesnt cost any energy.

Improved engine works great on light/medium builds, and also works on heavy builds too, and only costs 1 energy.

The other purple engines mostly suck. Nomads purple engine grants 20% faster reloads on modules like drones/turrets/boosters, but then it uses up 2 energy meaning you can only take 3 drones/turrets instead of 4. Its a shit engine.

And then Scavengers purple engine sucks too and gives basically the same performance the improved engine. It also costs 2 energy, but gives cannons and missiles 20% faster reloads, which is actually very useful for cannon/missile builds.

So basically light engine, improved engine, and Powerful Engine MK2 are the only engines worth using.

>>183154230
well right now i noticed if i put light engine on heavy build i lose tons of acceleration, its just 50 kg engine, but if i put 200 kg plate on i barely lose acc

Dont have heavy engine anymore to test

>>183154675

Engines all have their own unlisted weight limits. Its not in the game anywhere at all, like most stats in the game.

But if you go past a particular engines weight limit it basically stops providing any kind of boost to accel/speed and applies penatlies instead.

People have asked the devs multiple times for this kind of stuff to be shown in game and devs always respond saying they have no plans to change anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KM7ySNWuqU

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>>183142856

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>>183101787

>since you're stupid
I appreciate your effort but you don't have to be a condescending prick when someone asks for technical details.

>incompetent developer
I always wonder if people who talks like you have specific privileges (like being an employee at Keen) to be able to judge the devs for competence and have whatever high-level of prognosis about how the source code is written, or if this is just standard shitposting, you know just for the sake of it because fuck yeah why not biting the hand that feeds you.

>bugfixing by hackfixing
Is this shit documented? Because as an average user, all we have access to is a dead repository, filled with unresolved issues nonetheless but still, I'm not savvy enough to read how extra code is added to a broken function. In other words, how do you know the devs resort to such practices?

>0 crashes since open beta
>3 yesterday

some kind of jewish tricks

>>183132113
Antifreeze and lighter fluid

>>183153595
Recompile your script and check no refineries are jammed full of shit (by volume)

>>183099523
post some then,
we do post about it from time to time, but many spessmen are currently in plebcord planning the /colonize/ effort and I have been murdering fagtorio recently

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>>183157297
nah thats not it by full I meant have something inside them
all the script does is just make sure all refineries have something to do, i've looked over the script a bunch of times and there's nothing I can see wrong with it that would prevent it
im almost positive its some retarded faction setting

>>183146396
you must be special retarded

>>183158691
Just click recomplie and manually run the script 5 times, spengos is of retard

>>183156468
source code is not updated because they discontinued 32bit and 64bit can't be posted because of 3rd party licenses

but other than that: seeing how code is written, seeing what kind of bugs and why there are in game, seeing how fixed are done (I don't even have to see the code, the bug that's a result of fixing previous bug tells me exactly how they "fixed it")
Recent batches of optimizations are fucking wonderful examples of their competence: hurr durr we can't make it work fast or properly so we will make more fps by making things update slower. The fact that your conveyor checks are slow should not be fixed by making it run 4 times less often, the fix should be in the code itself.
They have little to no clue about mem management and on top of that they suck as designers on top of programmers since they have no clue what to do to make this game a game.

At this point in spess and time they can either try to fixit, quadrupling the code volume or they can rewrite it from scratch making the code about 70% of current volume and probaby making it faster and with less bugs
Obviously that would require the will to fix, not just patch untill runs well enough for release

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>railguns aren't technically fire arms
>if somebody could figure out a capacitor fast enough to charge it they could sell them in stores or by mail order with no licensing at all

>>183163147
I think you mean coilguns, because railguns have lot more problems than just capacitors

>>183163605
railgun sounds more marketable

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i finally understand vaporwave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhy_e5wIX44

>>183164185

Thats just your videocard dying.

Sorry anon.

>>183164570
it's also pretty

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS!
KNIGGERS IN THE THREAD!
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS!

>>183163640
be smart and market them as charger-coils, that avoids the whole 'gun' theme

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send help, or if you're notch send me a new video card

>>183139095
>how would an immobile lifeform reproduce?
>what is a plant

>>183163640
That's why you call it a gauss rifle.

>>183153595
Perhaps you should try a different approach.
If I read it right, you're currently letting the refineries fill up themselves, after which you redistribute the ore.
Instead, don't let the refineries fill up themselves, then modify the script to distribute ore from cargo into every refinery.

>>183163147
>railguns aren't technically fire arms
>The GCA defines the term “firearm” as: [...] (D) any destructive device
So a sufficiently large railgun would still "technically" be a firearm.

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>mfw i see bots with ballistas but you cant use them as weapons.

>>183169450
>sufficiently large railgun
It's used to send probes and satellites in space you honor. It contributes to developing the infrastructure for space habitation and industry, it does not destroy anything, on the contrary it actually builds :^) :^) :^)

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>>183169474
>When you just want to contemplate the mysteries of the universe and the fragility of the human existance
>Then some chucklefuck from the next village over knocks up your sister

Those ballistas are pretty hardcore too. High rate of fire, precision and damage.

>Mfw one of my "teammates" pushes me out of pistion and messes up my cannon shot

>>183169754
Excuses cannot unkill your dog.

>>183172741
>implying i have a dog

>>183172770
That's because it has already been killed.
ATF is effective.

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I like it.

>>183168551
I suggest you post this on the forums, the devs can porbably identify if it's the game or your card with certainty.

>>183168551
use the repair function on the launcher, i had that and it fixed it

>>183174786
war thunder had exactly same shadow glitch

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>>183066935
This is the closest I've got to a landing flare

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>80% blue items
>5% purple items
>it lands on one of the 4 four fucking white items
fuck this shit

>>183180012
sell blue and white crates, open the purples

>>183126698
>calle
What's his endgame?

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>>183147689
Embrace it.

>>183181336
>double headed trains
REEEEEEEE

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>>183178619
Okay I think the reason some of my planes can't flare up is that the main landing gear is placed too close to the tail of the plane, so when the plane lands on those wheels there is little or no weight behind them to counter all the weight in front of them, which pulls the nose down to the ground as soon as the plane touches down.

I moved the main landing gear of this airframe forward a bit and now the it can do a landing flare

>>183172036
>muh sniper

>>183062085
>>The general that quite literally cannot be named. The Mexican scam artist one. With the shitposters. Fuck off.
kerbal space program general /kspg/

>>183183052
BY THE GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL

>>183182104
Back landing gear needs to be the closest possible to the centre of mass while still being further behind both the centre of mass and centre of lift to assure stability, this way elevators can exert a lever as efficent as possible with fulcrum on the back wheels during take off

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This is an immensely powerful dicking about tool

>>183183052
rip in peaces

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>>183183052

>>183130947
>Teleport
what ?

>>183151902
Damn, the Robocop re-reboot looks good

So there's no way to play crossout at the moment?

>>183185241
not thru steam, just download the client from their site

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>>183169474
I think there was a special temporary faction of medieval-themed dudes for a limited time event in closed beta. The ballista is probably something from that faction and they decided to just leave it all in the game files. I hope they bring the idea back at some point

>>183183148
>>183183410
>>183184112
stop replying fucktwats
report, hide, move on

>>183185417
>stone projectile
>not infected, rotting bovine corpses
do you even trebuchet?

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>>183185562
>>not infected, rotting bovine corpses
Pic related.
Remember to also throw the corpses of those infected by the plague or similar shit. Hell, you don't even need to wait for them to die, just order someone to launch them

>>183163147

Under most states law, they get caught under AOW: All Other Weapons.

This makes them more regulated, not less. The real reason railguns aren't regulated currently is because it's extravagantly expensive, fragile and bulky to make one powerful enough to match a BB gun, much less a lethal firearm.

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>>183183302
desu I usually don't take the placement of the landing gear into consideration very much, I just put it in the right spot so the plane doesn't fall on its ass on the ground. Never really thought about the whole landing flare thing

>>183185350
Thanks, stupid me only checked steam.

>>183186548
>Hell, you don't even need to wait for them to die, just order someone to launch them
I know.

>>183188849
To Be Honest you shouldn't desu desu, you've got plenty of space in post to post desu in unabbreviated desu desu

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remember ksp?

Go in the >>>/trash/ where you belong

report, hide, do not reply even if sage

>>>/trash/10535970
>>>/trash/10535970

ded

>>183169046
wouldn't work well in the case of mixed ore assignment
currently some refineries are chugging away at platnium while others are going through quicker to refine ores, it would work short term but once the quick ores are consumed, those refineries would have nothing to do

>>183194621
always

>>183194881
ok, how about that: refineries can't grab ore themselves, but each time a refinery goes idle the script gives it ore (random) in amount sufficient for 3 minutes of work
obviously script checks all of the refineries and gives to each one that's empty

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Somehow this airframe can take fucking 90Gs like it's nothing

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>>183196030
Everything's fine except the landing gear

>>183195329
more complicated than it needs to be
I did figure it out, faction settings was preventing the script from moving ore to the newly built refineries because the nanite factory mod does weird shit with factions

I just want to ensure the factory is making use of all refineries and splitting ore from the fullest refinery to an empty one is as effective as need be. As a bonus it splits arc furnaces up and moves arc furnace ores from the refineries

>>183168551
Yup that's your card
RIP in pepperoni anon's video card

>>183196730
not neccesarily card, come on, if it was constant, then maybe

>>183196464
but it would be pretty simple:
each iteration get list of all empty refineries
for each element in list move ore from cargo to refinery

>>183197157
a refinery can hold a huge sum of ore and even moving small amounts form cargo can result in one being overfilled and the others idle
and moving 2000 ore at a time or whatever can still leave one chugging away at uranium or platinum while the others eat iron in half a second

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Structural damage happens at around 100Gs

And to achieve that I only had to increase engine power by 500%, add 2 extra pairs of elevators and dive to Mach 3 before pulling up

>>183197369
3 mintues worth (or whatever fixed time)
that way all of them have enough for this particular time period
how can one be overfilled if only empty ones get new batch?

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>>183197443
And I had to push it to 108Gs in order to cause fatal damage

>>183196730
>Yup that's your card
>RIP in pepperoni anon's video card
Nah that's standart issue AMD hardware, that's a feature

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post ships

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>>183202347

Remove /egg/

>>183202883
Remove you.

>>183197943
>console wars, pc edition
This isn't /v/ or /g/, anon.

>>183202347
Ced?

>>183203786
sadly no

>>183181336
Diagonal unloading? Clang bless.

I can't tell you how much I love this "anything but a bus design" trend right now. Optimizing for space, just as a simple bruteforce thing, is so much more fun than running or blueprinting down enough belts for a rocket every 600 seconds or something.

>>183204692
>for a rocket every 600 seconds
I really hope you don't think that's a lot

>>183204847
don't criticize him too bad my rude dude
most people give up before ever reaching one rocket

>tfw fucked up my chip factory so bad I need to tear down entire green section and plant it somewhere else

exporting your production to faraway place is really hard if one's retarded

>>183204847
just an ordering error, he clearly meant 600 rockets per second

>>183194881
>it would work short term but once the quick ores are consumed, those refineries would have nothing to do
So don't dedicate refineries to specific ores.

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What level of /egg/ are you in right now?

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>>183208526
>ksp shit

>>183208526
>Mun/Minmus
>Duna
>other kerbnigger shit
FUCK
OFF

WHICH PART OF "YOU'RE NOT WELCOME ON THIS SITE" YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND

>>183208526
Needs some editing, bro

>>183168551
It's like Arkham Knight all over again

pathetic attempt
kniggers go and stay go

SOMEBODY GET THE FUCKING MODS ON IRC AND TELL THE LAZY ASSHOLE TO GET HIS ASS OVER HERE STAT!

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>the absolute state of kerbiniggers

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>>183208526
>anything kerbal
>not including the deepest level of engineering
KSP belongs in >>>/trash/, and if there's no thread make a new one, it specifically does not belong here and is not allowed.

>>183186635
>all
It's any other weapon. Also
>"any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive," other than a handgun with a rifled barrel"
>energy of an explosive

>>183204847
I know it isn't. But it still takes a fuckton of belt-laying in a mainbus design! If I can launch a rocket in 3000 seconds I'm a happy camper; I'll go lay down more solar panels or some shit in the mean time.

>>183210675
>lay down more solar panels
now I know why you are so bad at it

>>183209448
>glorious cybran master race
mah nigga