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/mggg/ - Monster Girl Games General #147

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Lolistein Edition

This general is for the discussion of games containing Monster Girls, main game of discussion is Monster Girl Quest, but people are encouraged to introduce new games.

News:
Monster Girl Quest Paradox 2 is out.
Some guy called Rogue has started helping with the Paradox translation process.
The first bare minimum UI patch for Part 2 is out

How to use the latest non-patch Paradox translation: https://pastebin.com/a0VDpMji
(HAVE FUN WAITING TWO YEARS FOR CORE PLOT POINTS OF PART TWO)

Monster Girl Quest Paradox 2 download: https://mega.nz/#!PI1WiAKZ!exKwDBYVhJ8QK1w3b9M4XCipjv5GgDSyHZ5d_wrlo2w (or check the MGQ pastebin for a torrent)
2.02 Update: https://mega.nz/#!bpsgGRBa!uqTOpkqTHd0nO9E9w0Wu6lTkKuufNVOlWnEOrvgT1FE
Rough Guide: https://pastebin.com/yKjNkSME (WIP) (Also, obviously spoilers)

Monster Girl Quest (MGQ): http://pastebin.com/CGWN0k1u
Monster Girl Island (3D game): http://monstergirlisland.com/
Mobile games with Monster Girls: http://pastebin.com/NFaxEGib
Zell’s game Forest of Blue Skin: http://pastebin.com/hqc0JYhJ
Quest Failed: https://frostworks.itch.io/quest-failed
The Dungeon of Lulu Farea: Kill,Screw, Marry!: https://mega.nz/#!JmI2VDpT!KalSjtfGiwX0SmIhlFT-Y08DKf2jUkDltOba0flsqJ0

Previous Thread: >>182888039
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hello
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I've run out of things to do in part 1.
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I want to wash Chrome's stinky underwear and give her a bath!
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>>183033359
SIEG MAKINA
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>>183034003
I would like to have a bath with her.
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>>183033190
Thank you! Where did you find it?
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>>183034147
Dex is a horrible stat!
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>>183034351
I found one copy of it but it had a password and I couldn't find anywhere with the password listed. Then I found a Japanese site that had it, but it had split the game into 3 smaller files, but two of the files were dead. I finally found the last two parts after I spent about an hour rooting around old 2011 era japanese message forums that were somehow still functional.
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>>183034147
It's a real, real good thing that Sonya backed up herself because taking care of Hild and Nuruko and Promestien would be hell for Luka aloneGuy needs his crude strong girl to keep those nutters in check
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I love Ilias!
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>>183034675
Well aren't you a spelunker. Seems Japanese comes in much bigger handy then I thought. A shame I gave up.
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>>183034709
What if I want to take care of Hild's womb?
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so I found heriel/gnosis in the game cg, but i havent seen here anywhere.
do they exist yet?
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>>183034003
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>>183036757
Heriel is in the final area, a rare encounter. Alciel as well.
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>>183034709
>implying the only thing stopping half the castle from killing the other half is the knowledge that sonya will club the everlasting shit out of them if they try anything
fucking narwhal and manta girls which are supposed to be the strongest things in the south and north seas after kraken and poseidoness acknowledge that sonya is the alpha bitch in the castle.
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>>183037559
If only we could recruit Sonya before choosing between Alice and Ilias.
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>>183037559
>kraken and poseidoness acknowledge that sonya is the alpha bitch in the castle
wait really? When does that happen?
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>>183038123
https://pastebin.com/QQaVgXa3

Now with 100% less identity theft!
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>>183038272
Why isn't dinner fully translated yet you hack?
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>>183038272
http://exhentai.org/g/581098/0e6cd408ff/
http://exhentai.org/g/671438/9cfbf44f4d/
http://exhentai.org/g/749499/500b0e94ab/

>>183038346
Because I can't into moonrunes
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>>183037559
Initializing XX Startup...

I find it hard to believe though, given Elf Princess gave 0 fucks.
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>>183038123
>>183038272
>>183038402
Thank you Voreanon.

I am appalled and disgusted by your fetish but i admire your dedication. Therefore you're a pretty cool dude.
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>>183038123
>>183038272
>>183038402
Thanks, doc.
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Which other games do you want to be translated? I'm still waiting on an Atlach-nacha translation
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>>183039647
Do not trust Shikibi, they do not understand love, they will kill you.
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Please ignore those who say not to trust a succubus. We are very gentle and loving creatures. Just put your dick in us and let us take care of you.
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>>183040013
Haven't played that game yet but from what I've heard it has some good endings.
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>>183040073
Succubi are not inherently evil, Shikibi are inherently evil.

>>183040141
Yes it also has bad endings.
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>>183037559
>the strongest things in the south and north seas after kraken and poseidoness
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Please ignore those who say not to trust a mermaid. We are very gentle and loving creatures. Just give us a little bit of energy and let us take care of you.
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>>183040253
They're evil because they should have outright killed these Luddite communist shitters
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>>183033759
Collect panties and milk.
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>>183033759
Vampire only challenge.
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I wish that Luka had a sexcraft skill where he tries to rape a monster girl only for it to lead to suicide.
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>>183034147
wow Aigis from persona 3 sure looks different in the MGQ world doesn't she?
I still prefer her old look though
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>>183040073
>Just put your dick in us and let us take care of you.
Make me
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>>183040073
> Just put your dick in us and let us take care of you.
Over my dead body you overused whore
> trust a mermaid
I hate fish
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Are 2hus allowed in here? Most of them are youkai at least
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>>183040417
>after kraken
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>>183040417
Damn I'm impressed with TTR's sprite work on Levia. No actually giving a lot of sprite work to a lot of monster girls. It's rather funny that Luka can literally have a big monster girl party with him like I mean actual big girls.
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>>183047754
I need to do a screencap of this too with the biggest of girls.
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>>183048464
If you thought the save window couldn't push more slots off the side, you were wrong.
I believe the forest giant is the next largest after Golem, but I didn't feel like trying to censor that.

Offscreen is Kraken, Poseidon, Sphinx, Yamata, the forest Giant, and the Cow Queen.
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>>183049036
Oh, and several of these characters have dialogues regarding their sizes if you bring them to each other.
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>>183049036
>If you thought the save window couldn't push more slots off the side, you were wrong.
>I believe the forest giant is the next largest after Golem, but I didn't feel like trying to censor that

Holy fuck they are big monster girls. Tiny shota with big mighty monster girls.
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>>182888039
Is the OP picture for the last thread cropped or something?
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Remove Erushitty, worst girl and worst monster. Murderous piece of shit.
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>>183050308
Please refrain from using Suu to shit on Erubetie. Suu would be dissapointed in you for doing that.
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>>183050308
Nobody likes her.
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>>183046075
maybe the ones like reisen and suika, I doubt about the ones like yuyuko or yukari.
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>>183050853
Nobody with shit taste like yours, sure.
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What's Shikimamo in-game profile's like?
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Is this heaven?
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Any Facesitting / tit smothering scenes in MGQ Paradox 2?

I remember someone telling me there was a lax of these two in the first one. Hopefully the second one has some.
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>>183052078
Lilith has tit smothering I believe.
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>>183052078
Succ prison has some really hot face-sitting
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>>183051746
Yup, definitely.
Based Un_Do is based.
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>>183052078

Plenty of tit smothering hell there's even a literal titty monster to smother yourself in. Facesitting though that's a lot less common.
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>>183033359
Bully the nerd!!!!!
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>>183054992
>nerd bullies you
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What were they thinking?
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>>183055750
Stop Liking This Drag Queen
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>>183055860
Stop shitposting.
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Any news from Dargoth when a new paradox 2 patch is coming out?
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>>183055545
Too bad ghosts are a shitty race with paper thin defense and attack.
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what the fuck happen to my vanilla
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>>183056632
She got an actual name from the Queen.
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>>183056806
Because she is her daughter.
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>>183056632
She's weak, bench her.
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>>183056632
Heinrich stays human race and fucks human women and still better the most "Powerful" monster,i knew i liked him for the beginning.
He is what Luka should have been...in the VN at least
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>>183056632

>That name
>Even the face

Does she get any boosts at least?
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>>183057021
>gets killcucked by ilias
>ditches his greatest asset, the spirits, before declaring a war on heaven
>died without accomplishing anything
>reincarnated into a sword or retarded hulk.
yeah no
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>>183057157
no lol
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Why is this thread only alive when Americans are awake? It makes me feel lonely
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>>183056632
FATima
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>>183057323

He managed to genocide angels to the point they had to rely on chimera monsters to have any sort of projection of ground force.
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>>183057323
>gets killcucked by ilias
Look how that turned out for her
>ditches his greatest asset, the spirits, before declaring a war on heaven
Yeah Pride makes one blind doesn't it?
>died without accomplishing anything
Ended Black Alices tyranny on mankind i would not call that nothing
>reincarnated into a sword or retarded hulk.
Now that is not his fault is it?
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>>183057323
>Fought Archangels without spririts
>Committed mass Genocide on the armys of heaven alone
>Was so devastating to the angels that their numbers technically never reached their peak again

Heinrich was badass. He had no angel powers, he had no super-human bloodline, he had his blue hair and Pseudo-German ways.
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>>183057323
He destroyed 90% of xeno scum so that's good.

Tartarus only finished the job.
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>>183057440
I'm lonely too. Maybe we could...
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>>183057592
We could what?
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>>183057592
Get's you ass back to /lgbt/
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>>183057508
Ilias could've made more angels, it just wasn't necessary for her plan given that she was going to kill everyone in the end.
>>183057515
>>183057525
>>183057559
Heinrich admits in the VN that he knowingly went on a suicide mission, and that it was biggest failure. It's a recurring theme, that martyrdom isn't the solution as seen with Alice and her mom and even Luka himself. Ultimately, Heinrich was a speed bump in Ilias's plans because he just ended up destroying some replaceable pawns. Had he chosen to live instead, he could've educated the next generation on Ilias's true nature, he could've fostered a new generation of heroes. But he didn't, that's the tragedy.
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>>183057952
You misread my post.
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>>183057782
You know...
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>>183057952
Didn't heinrich basically only fight fodder? Not anybody on Lucifina,Micela and Eden's level of power? Who even took him down in the end anyway? Even more surprising is that people fought Heinrich seriously and his soul wasn't raped for 10,000 years like Luka whenever he loses to angels
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>>183057817
Reminder that lesbian sex is on topic.
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>>183058238
>Reminder that lesbian sex is on topic.
Oh my mistake then sorry...well then...
Get's your ass back to /u/
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>>183057952
>Ultimately, Heinrich was a speed bump in Ilias's plans because he just ended up destroying some replaceable pawns.
Had Heinrich somehow not been turned into his sword he would have certainly gotten to Eden alone, possibly past her as no Angel could defeat him even with overwhelming numbers.
His suicide mission was not without its merits, although he failed in what he wanted the Angel Army never recovered.

Also even if he did educate people on Ilias's nature most wouldn't believe him in Ilias continent and everywhere else would probably not care. And Ilias would've taken noticed to the now fallen hero, and promptly deal with him.

Had Heinrich been able to reach Eden he most certainly could've killed her. He'd probably make it to Ilias herself before being able to be stopped, even then i doubt Ilias could stop him.
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>>183058149
Just say it already
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>>183058420
I mean, if you're like... and I'm like... then maybe we could...
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>>183058690
If you keep doing this I will leave. Just say whatever the fuck you want already
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>>183058238
But it's only happened 3 times, Sara and a few vampires off screen, Sonya and elf princess off screen, Alma and Granberia off screen and that one battle fucker against a freshly born succubus, I still can't believe a human, let alone a human woman beat a monster.
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>>183058869
I'm sorry, I'm not very good at this. I'm just trying to say... that I wouldn't mind spending time with you.
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>>183059426
And in the vn the elf and the tongue chimera and an elf and principality whatshername. Ow, and fingers.
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I thirst for adventure
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So does Luka geekout at seeing Heinrich?
>>183056632
A translation?
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>>183059461
Don't you ever joke about that shit with me, I've been catfished before. And how would that help the thread have more discussion at this time of the day?
But if you're serious, why not
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>>183059941
>So does Luka geekout at seeing Heinrich?
He can't even say his name, he says Luluka because he stutters more than a shy person in anime trying to confess.

Actually Ilias/Alice needs to talk for Luka because Luka cannot handle seeing Heinrich.

I haven't seen what it looks like when he joins but its not good for Luka.
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>>183060130
>Luluka
You missed a lu. It was Lululuka.
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>>183060130
IIias must be either scared or pissed off at seeing Heinrich. Meanwhile Alice is probably pretty happy at meeting the guy who slaughtered angels by the truckloads
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>>183058365
Heinrich's true power is a moot point since he didn't have the spirits in his crusade. His vendetta was that personal, that he would reject the spirits. This is also another theme in MGQ, that one cannot accomplish much on their own no matter how strong they are. It's also heavily implied that Heinrich became Angel Halo not due to falling in battle, but by killing so many angels that he essentially mutated into it. His massacre sealed his own fate.

>Even if he educated people, he would be disbelieved or ignored
Then he could start a community of loyal followers a la Enrika. Ilias could try to hunt him down, but unless she was willing to risk Eden, it would be a futile endeavor.

Imagine if Micaela charged Ilias after watching the slaughter of Remina, even though she's capable of doing a lot of damage, it would be a futile gesture when she inevitably fails.
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>>183060263
Oh yeah.

>>183060325
Ilias sees Heinrich as an ally, Alice freaks the fuck out because they might cause Chaos to spread in that Universe.

Either way Heinrich joins up if your with Ilias but Alicetromeria joins up for her "Decendent" with Alice. I actually think Alicetromeria thinks Alice is her and Heinrichs distant child because she thinks that Alice is directly related to her.

Alice just kinda goes along with it so she doesn't know shes gonna be killed by Heinrich.
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Stop this degeneracy at once
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>>183040472
Do you believe most wild monsters, as well as some 'civilized' ones, deserve to be killed outright as well? Because monsters have done way worse than that village.

Hell, I'm surprised Lady village is still allowed to exist.
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>>183060616
I am not opposed to yuri, but Granberia deserves better than Alma Elma.
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>>183060730
Kys commie.
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>>183060730
Monsters at least have the excuse of following their instincts. Luddite was just a cult of religious fanatics.
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Is there one or more new casinos in part 2? I'm curious since going for the achievements I'm racking up a lot of gold in grandeur. Funny thing, I was able to get both 777 achievements in a hour and a half more or less, but the royal straight flush one is making me have genocidal thoughts.
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>>183060583
Alicetromeria? Is she the paradox world black alice? I always wondered what on earth happened to her since paradox world IIias had sealed herself with Eden sealing her outside 30 years ago.

>>183060730
I thought paradox world lady village stopped eating people after Neris slapped Cassandra's shit so hard she turned into a teenager it seems getting an ass beating is a good cure for evil in this universe
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>>183061174
Just the new casino Lazarus opens up in your Pocket Castle, I believe, after he permanently joins up with you.
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Where do I go to upgrade past holy custom+
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>>183061179
>Alicetromeria
>Paradox world black alice
No shes from the alt-universe that's 500 years back, you find her in Succubi-Village traveling with Heinrich, so yeah, it turns out Alice 8 and Heinrich did pull an Alice/Luka adventure, except Alice 8 disguised herself as a mage and helped Heinrich in battle.

We know fuck all about the Paradox worlds original black alice.
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>>183061179
>Alicetromeria? Is she the paradox world black alice? I always wondered what on earth happened to her since paradox world IIias had sealed herself with Eden sealing her outside 30 years ago.
Nah. Parallel World through a Tartarus that connects to 500 years back from the current point in time.

Yeah, all the combative youma followed Candy out of Lady Village after she rebelled against Cassandra and tried to usurp her power. Neris actually just injured Cassandra, but Candy took advantage of Cassandra's weakened state to steal her and Emily's powers. She ate the majority of her power, so what little you were able to recover only put her on par with Emily.
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>>183061179
>Alicetromeria? Is she the paradox world black alice? I always wondered what on earth happened to her since paradox world IIias had sealed herself with Eden sealing her outside 30 years ago.
Alternate world Black Alice from 500 years ago. She disguised herself as a human magician (using the alias Alicetromeria) and was travelling with Heinrich.

>>183061326
I believe the first upgrade in part 2 is in Plantsect.
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>>183061269
Are there new interesting prizes?
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>>183060762
Minagi?
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>>183061393
What's ironic is that canonically Alice defeated Cassandra through apoptosis.
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>>183061475
Didn't really bother looking. I just used the store to buy the job change item there.
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monster girl gamu very good game! great game! play!
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>>183061395
that's the last place i'd think to look, since they dont have fucking shops REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>183061475
Aegis (shield that is slightly worse than Heinrich's shield, but anyone can use) seems to be the only noteworthy thing other than the job change item.
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>>183061475
>>183061810
Aegis is the best all-around shield for everyone that isn't Luka, i think only Luka can use any of Heinrich's items, i don't think even Heinrich himself can use his sword.
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>>183061917
Seriously?
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>>183061269
So he finally came clean about his position as a crime boss? Hope he's ready for Sonya to club the shit out of him, you know she'd make good on that threat.
>>183061370
>>183061395
Wow, just what IS Black Alice's mental state if she did that, Heinrich really did have a rough adventure, the mage he probably thought of as a partner and the goddess he once faithfully served were both traitors to him, How do the spirits react to him? I think Sylph was the closest to him back then.
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>>183062037
>So he finally came clean about his position as a crime boss? Hope he's ready for Sonya to club the shit out of him, you know she'd make good on that threat.
More by accident. He got hired to do a job to help some people infiltrate Grangold and it turns out Luka's party were the ones he had to help.
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You picked Saja, right /mggg/?
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>>183061607
you know. go way
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>>183062037
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>>183062267
>Over 2800 affection
That's a lot of apples
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>>183060871
No problem with Luddite village getting wrecked, but most monsters including the succubi trio better be next on the chopping block.
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>>183061917
Heinrich can use his own sword, shield, helm and armor. But yeah, it's restricted to him and Luka at this point.
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>>183062037
>Spirits
I don't know i didn't expect Heinrich to come out of fucking nowhere.
>Alicetromeria
Her mental state is still all kinds of fucked but, shes notable for being very caring to those who follow her. She plays boomerang with slimes, cuddles with polar bear girls when she finds them and actually believes she and Eden would be good friends.

I kinda want Alicetromeria and her worlds Heinrich to get together.
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>>183062194
I want to marry Saja and have lots of babies with her!
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>>183062267
Part 2 really isn''t kind to Sonya at all is it?
>Have to watch your not boyfriend be felt up by pirates for 5 minutes as he moans trying not to cum
>Find out your uncle is a crime lord who attempted to kill the pope giving him the mecha body he has now
>Get molested by an elf princess trying to NTR you
>Get ignored and belittled by a Spider princess who absolutely refuses to stop calling your not boyfriend her husband
>Turn into a world killing abomination and have to leave before you kill your friends
The only way it could get worse is if that theory about her mother is true
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>>183062194
Saja best ancestor, which isn't saying much but at least she (probably) wont kill her mate. Probably.

Just in case remember the rule: Never Trust Shikibi.
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>>183062582

It could get worse, her disappearing to correct the universe or her disappearing as the universe corrects itself.
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>>183062194
lol no
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>>183061179
They 'did', but Emily still kills you in some scenes, for instance, and if people are fine with Luddite village being exterminated then I'm not sure why the Lady's Village monsters get a pass, considering they were indiscriminately killing male travellers.
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>>183062710
stupid shitty piss stained barf angel! If gnosis is any indication, Raphaela probably has shitting nipples!
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>>183062582
>Find out your uncle is a crime lord who attempted to kill the pope giving him the mecha body he has now
Did we ever get an explanation to why he did this?
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>>183062710
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>>183062503
no...
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Does anyboy knows if having more than 1 gambler in party increases the odds more? I'm starting to get really mad.
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>>183062886
He still denies it, even in the PC convo he has with the Pope.
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>>183062992
Get a party full of dark fairy gamblers
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>>183062650
What? Not even Minagi wants to kill Luka.
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>>183063053
So it does? I'll get my second Gambler to see if something changes, if that's the case I'm doing it.
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>>183062992
Probably not since trtr removed ability stacks for some reason.
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>>183062723
Monsters get a pass because monsters are monsters, you have to remember what this series is. the appeal is monsters girls, the story is about them, people already accept that monsters kill and eat humans, humans being shit and angels being shit worse because they aren't suppose to behave that way, they're suppose to be held to a higher standard.
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>>183063060
>ova
>implying canon
>implying even if it was canon it would matter since she's a different minagi anyway
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>>183062885
Angels BTFO forever
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>>183062885
>Raphaela probably has shitting nipples!
SHITTING
DICK
NIPPLES
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>>183063060
She almost did kill him even in the OVA.

Also the entire point that Saja's a bit too caring according to her description isn't the greatest of indications.

I mean yeah Yanderes are great and all just i don't think anyone could survive that.
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>try to do paradox difficulty luka-only run
>the strongest monster I can kill after gathering a bunch of items in high level locations is Melk
I think its impossible
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>>183063206
I'm still on part 1 though, since my pc decided to break and I lost my saves. So might as well complete everything while waiting for the translation.
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>>183063207
Not really, since angels are monster girls by another name, anon.
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>>183063538
How did of break?
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Shirikodama Publishing currently has a kickstarter going to bring Morisugi’s Readable Eye Anthology over to the west and it could use some help.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1743847824/shirikodama-publishing-presents-the-readable-eye-a
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>>183063503
This, Luka was turning into dried fish and even begging her to stop but she kept right on going and he would have died if he hadn't managed to save himself at the last minute. It's still weird, he came multiple times so he should have been under the CE effect and thus unable to defend himself.
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>>183062194
I picked "I dunno lol"
They both sound wrong and I will do my best to go my own way
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>>183063503
She literally wanted to keep him forever, read her dialogue again.
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>>183063673
>go my own way
So beat them both and dick them
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https://pastebin.com/YPUMa8M2
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>>183063606
Dont care for cyclops
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>>183063914
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>>183063984
>Prime Luka tries using daystar
>Paradox Luka doesn't attack
>"Know daystar then?"
"I've fought Lucifina."
>"Really?"
"Yes i also fucked her."
>"WHAT?!"

Ah Paradox Luka....
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>>183063538
Me too!
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>>183063580
Motherboard is gone, was old and bringing around everyday in uni for years probably didn't help. At least I finally got myself a good new laptop.
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Would you have an orgy with all six ancestors, given the chance?
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>>183064410

I'd be dried fish before I get to the second.
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>>183064410
Only if I'm unbelted Nero.
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>>183064343
I was wondering, since it's something I should sooner or later do, but doing a ng+ before part 3 is pretty much useless, am i wrong? Considering that when part 3 hits, you'll have to do a new ng+ to keep the new part 3 route locked characters.
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>>183064410
>Given the chance
I doubt Saja let such a thing happen and i happen to value my pathetic life as it is so no.

Even if it could happen i would be the only one to get pleasure out of it which really isn't fair.
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>>183063606
>Asking for 20.000 dollars to translate 3 doujins
What the fuck
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>>183064606
Oh, it's the antiharem anon again.
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>>183064410
Where do I sign? And btw

> not asking for an orgy with both all the ancestors and all the archangels
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>>183064680
Wrong anon, i simply don't want sexual partners that will leave me dead or the women unpleasured.

Therefore I'd rather be alone.
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>>183064603
In a sense, yes. But I feel the game has enough replayability to justify doing so.
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>>183064338
Eh, more like she fucked him. He didn't really had a choice.
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>>183064795
You're also refusing pleasure by declining!
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>>183062672
Her friends are a lesbian princess who hits on any vag that comes her way, the spirit of chaos, the spirit of earth and a battle/sexbot from the future. maybe even Radio and Promestein,too. I'd say that's way worse than being erased from existence. I mean, who'd want to hang out with those weirdos, Promestien probably stinks like Crome
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>>183065008
"I was actually raped by her while she told me to cum inside 'mommy'."
>"THATS ACTUALLY WORSE."

>>183065036
Yes, and?
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>>183058190
He fought Ariel, and the game says she is around as powerful in combat as higher-ranking angels.
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>>183065195
Man up! Fuck them all!
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>>183065325
No. I rather like staying alive and depressed.
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>>183065325
>all
>when minagi's sex aura is probably so strong she can make people void their testicles in seconds
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>>183064410
Only if I get to be one of the ancestors
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>>183065449
>Alive
That's no way to live!
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I hope BA Gets reedemed
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>>183058365
Illias would have definitely stopped him. Heinrich is strong but he's not THAT strong.

Hell, Torotoro even said in the Q&A that if Heinrich and Black Alice had teamed up and went to heaven, they would have just ended up getting murdered by Illias.
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>>183065548
>That's no way to live!
Too bad i like staying depressed in the void of my life!
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>>183065613
Just wait, she will fall for the shota dick, like every bad girls before her.
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>>183065662
No you don't! You're just scared of being happy!
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>>183065613
I hope the complete opposite.
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>>183065195
>"I was actually raped by her while she told me to cum inside 'mommy'."
Oh, god, please be fake.
>>183065658
This, people still don't understand that IIias was holding back in her battle with Luka because she wanted him alive because loves him. If IIias felt absolutely no affection for Luka she would have obliterated him before Alice,her knights and Micaela even got there to assist him.
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>>183065842
Why?
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>>183065753
I'm staying depressed and alive because i want to be, if being happy means to die then i'd rather keep the status quo and never feel happiness!

My suicidal tendencies be damned, i'm not going to voluntarily walk into a death trap!
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>>183065885
Because everyone getting redeemed no matter how evil they are or how corrupted they've become is silly.
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This is pure unadultereted pain. Not even the first time this shit happens...
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>>183065869
It's a mystery how strong Ilias normally is, as Promestein wasn't confident to absorb her on her own and Black Alice using Ilias's power was still defeated by Alice and Luka together. It seems like Ilias isn't that much stronger than a seraph.
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>>183065869
She kills him if he loses to her semen extraction organ shit.
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About to start Paradox 2. Is this party good enough for it?
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>>183066015
You misunderstand, being evil for the sake of being evil is what's silly.
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>>183066015
That's not silly, it's just the power of the shota dick in action !
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>>183066219

Nah looks pretty shit.
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>>183066219
Those numbers are pretty big....
Are you compensating for something, Anon ?
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>>183066015
Evil is just a word ,
Under the skin it's simple pain.
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>>183066219
What the jesus........ If thats the actual max MP/HP than we have a lot of catching up to do in part 3 holy fuck.....
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>>183066219
Use a doctor to boost your max HP or you'll get 1shot by the first boss.
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>>183065941
You still show fear! Being happy doesn't mean death! You've given up before even trying! You're the one who accepted the status quote of depression! You're the one who thinks it's a death trap! Take a chance, step out of your comfort zone; that's what it means to live!
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>>183066397
Great. So if I murder and mutate countless people, become a chaos god that is no longer bound by time nor space, and my very presence is breaking reality apart and pretty much turning it into the Warp, it's okay because deep down I'm just sad that my boyfriend abandoned me.
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>>183066219
>no battlemaster
it's shit
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I'm so fucking tired of Lolice... I want normal Alice back. At this point sour relations with KC isn't even an excuse anymore, he could give both Granberry and Alma new artists for Paradox part 2 so it there's clearly no problem there.
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>>183066759
>Take a chance, step out of your comfort zone; that's what it means to live!
Not to me! Just let me live my life with the status-quo! I like the status-quo damn you!
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>>183064410
I'd rather the seven archangels.
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>>183066219
You fucking cheater, those numbers imply Sonya is useful
>>183066185
But he comes back because of soul return.which makes it weird is that IIias is gloating to Luka when it activates and Lucifina's ghost is the one speaking to him when it happens against Dark Holy God IIias, IIias cares way too much about Luka which makes it jarring that one IIias actually just straight up killed him.
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>>183066881
>expecting Alice to get her Monster Lord race before part 3
That shit better be fucking strong, Queen Lamia already gets a 275% bonus to will.
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>>183067031
It really doesn't matter since Paradox Part 2 is already out. There's no way we can get it before Part 3 even if we wanted to.
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>>183066881

Loli Alice is just Alice with less looking down on you.
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>>183066891
You not only lie to me, you lie to yourself! You cannot deny the truth no matter how blissful ignorance is! Change your status quo for the better! Refuse to accept your current reality! Do the right thing! Because in the end, that's all you'll have!
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>>183066461
Don't worry, anon, you're not the only one. We're all like that, here. You need to be positive about it.
Girls are icky, we don't need them. No girls allowed.
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>>183066816
Yup
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>>183067376
Wait, so those guys that says that Hitler did nothing wrong are actually right ? He was just sad because the girl he loved rejected him ! It's all okay !
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There are no girls in this general. Prove me wrong. You literally can't.
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>>183067329
>Do the right thing,
I am doing the right thing! I'm not fucking those six crazy bastards even if i was nero levels of powerful i value what little i have left.
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>>183067325
More like Alice but with her common sense somehow removed from her brain magically. She's usually the first to point out obvious traps normally, but come part 3 lolification and she suddenly becomes a fucking moron and falls for every single trap she and Luka encounter. I mean, it was her physical and magical power that got sealed, right? So why is she acting like they sealed her logic center too?
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>>183067748
So first it was because you didn't think you could pleasure them all but now it's because you're scared! You're a terrible liar! You pretend to care for others but really you only care for yourself!
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>>183067773
Having a child's body was also having an effect on her mind, as mentioned in her encyclopedia entry and shown when the old woman from Iliasville offers her candy.
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>>183067662
I am one in heart.
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>>183067773
Adult Alice was dorky at times, Lolice is impulsive.
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>>183067973
I know i can't pleasure them all and i don't want to die. Why is that bad? I don't want to disappoint anyone and i keep getting to live, its a lose-win situation here, either i disappoint people or i kind stay 'happy' in my life.
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>>183068220
Kill yourself, faggot.
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>>183067662
Better to deceive you into thinking there are no girls in this general.
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>>183068159
To be fair, though, that's exactly what Alice would do if she found herself stuck in the body of a small child, even if it didn't have any effect on her mind. Her exploiting her newfound cuteness to get candy from Betty is totally in-character.

That being said, I would have preferred it if they actually went all the way and made her fully regress to the mindset associated with said body age rather than having her be the same but way more stupid and more impulsive.
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>>183066816
Ba is cute though
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>>183068325
You have more to give, you just don't know it yet! Just believe in yourself! Fuck those ancestors! Fuck your depressed life! You always had the power, you just convinced yourself you don't!
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>>183067515
Hitler isn't cute like black Alice so he doesn't count
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>>183068723
Says you.
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>>183068334
What's wrong anon? You like Imps better?
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>>183068220
Out of ally the people in the general, you are the one who most needs psychological help.
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>>183068890
Considering all the gays and all the vorefags here, I'd say simply wanting to be a girl is pretty normal.
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>>183068334
Don't be mean to our femanon. That's why media presents us as cyber rapists.
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someone post that big tiddy on benis image
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do not respond to the obsessed freak
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>>183068714
Fuck no. My word is final. I'm staying with the status quo.
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>>183068723
Seems cute enough to me.
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>>183068325
>I know i can't pleasure them all
Git Gud
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>>183068723
>Hitler isn't cute
What a faggot
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>>183069129
>generic animu grill with red eyes
ok
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>>183069081
You disappoint me anon. I wonder if the next time you resignedly accept another bout of depression will you remember this moment where you refuse to consider the acknowledgement of a stranger? I'm sorry.
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>>183069365
We're all generic in this world, anon.
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>>183069497
Speak for yourself
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>>183069081
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>>183069652
I'm all generic in this world, anon.
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>>183069451
>>183069713
I'll be happy as is.
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>>183069919
But you're not happy. You made that choice.
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>>183068597
Would she think luka is cool?
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>>183067773
Tamamo acted retarded too when she reverts back to her sealed form.
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>>183070018
>you're not happy
Thats fine by me. I like being left alone.
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>>183070148
She acted silly, not retarded. She was still obviously wise despite not being very serious.
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>>183070161
It doesn't have to be this way! How will you ever expect to be fulfilled if you don't take a chance on others? Resigning yourself to solitude is the choice of a coward, you can do better! You are better!
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So why didn't Tamamo slap Orochi's shit again? I don't feel like replaying the VN back to Yamatai for the refresher.
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>>183070360
After the fight with Tsukuyomi, she could not stop gushing about how fluffy her tails were.
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Guys, >>183070161is right. You're all forgetting that if you reach the age of 30 without engaging in sexual intercourse, you become a powerful wizard.
We will all be powerful wizards !
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>>183070360
She also had several hundred years to learn to supress the childishness that came with her loli body, so she has a reason for remaining dignified in her sealed form. The reason she acted so silly after returning to her sealed form after unleashing her full power is because she didn't have to focus on keeping herself in check until she returned to her sealed form, and I suppose the shock is like a truck hitting you at 90 miles per hour.
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>>183070594
>Get buff on par with knight-level on my way to 30
>Wizardry hits, since it'd be wizard + knight turn into a paladin
>MGs immediately put their sights on you for being a paladin
>Able to specifically pick the one I want since I'd be strong enough to fend off the ones who want to take me by force
There are absolutely no drawbacks to this.
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wasn't there a store that sold max belts, hyper wrist, and other 30% shit? where did it go? can't find it anymore
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>>183070923
Stop posting demon! Worst monster!
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So how much stronger is Final Form Ilias than Chaos God Black Alice?
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>>183070923
A paladin would require a divine caster component. Wizards are arcane casters. You would be more like an eldritch knight.
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>>183070923
You're not ambitious enough, anon. If you wait long enough and use your powerful magic to protect your virginity, you can become even stronger !
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>>183064643
I think it's as they're making hardcopies, new content from the author, decensoring etc. Plus it's an official translation so the author gets a cut. Still seems like alot though.
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>>183071037
Chaos God is definitely much stronger as she's a completed fusion. I'm curious as to how we are even supposed to fight her just given the powerset she's already shown.

Final Form Illias was just Illias with the power of darkness jammed in for a 50% boost.
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>>183067773
dumb sluts always been dumb but now you can really see it because she lost her confidence along with most of her power
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>>183070407
No im really not. I'm satisfied with what i have.

I mean you're telling me to walk into my own death here and its not even suicide!
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I don't get the appeal of big ass and tits. It's ugly as fuck.
Flat is good, but medium term is where it's at.
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>>183071947
There you go again with that defeatist talk! You're not satisfied, you just settled for less because you don't know how much your worth! This one scenario is a microcosm of how you view your life! If you don't take this chance, how will you take the opportunities to lead a better life! Your current path is also a suicide!
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>>183071952
That's because you're a lowtest impotent faggot. This is why you don't like big ass and tits
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>>183071952
Okay pedophile.
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>>183071952
The "THICC" thing is just a meme at this point
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>>183072376
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>>183072351
Next up you're gonna go on about never giving up like the other one at this rate!

I am satisfied, and i don't think dying via sex is the best way to go.
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>>183072376
>>183072476
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>>183071952
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>>183072609
>>183072819
Go back to /mgqg/ where you belong.
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>>183071839
Canon information from TT states otherwise. She's about on par with Salamander and Undine intelligence-wise, only really surpassed by Tamamo.
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>>183072595
I hate it. That and the "Cuck" meme. Those words pretty much lost their meaning at this point with how much they're spammed for literally anything
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>>183072609
>>183072819
Truth hurts doesn't it?
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>>183073228
Alic tried to kill herself thinking it would stop the fighting between monsters and humans, sounds pretty stupid to me mate also Luka is usually an idiot but even he knew that was a fucking stupid idea.
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>>183072783
You say satisfied now but earlier you said you were happy! You're in denial! More than determination, you need faith! Faith in yourself, that you can be happy despite your situation! Faith in others, that they reciprocate your own feelings! Faith in me, for trying to show you the right path!

Do not be afraid! Do not settle for a slow ignominious suicide tempered with porn and video games! You can find the companionship you crave if you only try!
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>>183073628
You're the one in denial, you trying to tell me that fucking the ancestors isn't a bad idea. Its probably the worst idea you could have! There is no companionship there, theres only death!

Why would i need that when i can continue to live? Have you gone mad?
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At this point I think it's just one guy arguing with himself.
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>>183073848
A life without Saja is not worth living!
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>>183074097
Saja is an insane yan!
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>>183073604
Pride can make even the smartest of people do the stupidest of things, which is exactly why Alice was so determined on following the footsteps of her mother. And for all its flaws, we already know her mother's plans would have succeeded (barring Ilias fucking it up afterwards, but there was no way in hell for either of the two to know it beforehand) had Alice not shown up to fuck it up by killing Merlin and Sonia's mom.

Besides, one instance of Luka having more brains than Alice does not make up for the fuckload more moments where Alice had to explicitly prove how Luka was a fucking moron during the entire adventure. TT already confirmed through Q&As that Luka is dumber than Alice (still about the same level as Granberry, Alma, Eru and Gnome, though), so it's not like that moment turned him into the fucking Albert Einstein of the MGQ universe.
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Raphaela is superior to Saja anyway.
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>>183074253
>TT already confirmed through Q&As that Luka is dumber than Alice (still about the same level as Granberry, Alma, Eru and Gnome, though)


Do you have a link to the interview he said that?
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>>183074269
Literally canonically wrong
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>>183074223
She loves you more than any monster could! She will fight to the death for you!
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>>183074253
Still case in point Alice is a dumb bitch and she will always be a dumb bitch.
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>>183074360
Have you forgotten what we were talking about in the first place?
>>183074269
Raphaela and the Archangels are shit! Saja at least has some good qualities.
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Shit guys, what do I do?
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>>183074325
http://monstergirlquest.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Rjwstar/MGQ_world%60s_various_untold_informations_-_Torotoro_blog_Q%26A

Apologies for having to link to the fucking Wikia, but it's Q34 in this, translated for your convenience so you won't have to swim through the japanese original version to find it.
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>>183074515
You being a coward! Saja will protect you from death!
>>183074617
[Poseidon's Bell]!
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>>183074617
Slay the monsterlord.
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>>183074493
Keep telling that to yourself.
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What is the general consensus on nekomanma? His designs might not stand out as much as UN_DO's and xelvy's, but I really like many of his girls because of how lovey dovey they are.
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>>183074761
We weren't even talking about Saja you insane bastard, i think if you got any closer i would need a restraining order!

I think even Saja herself would be creeped out by you!
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>>183074892
you should too
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>>183074961
That hurts anon!
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>>183074617
What a stupid question, Touch Fluffy Tail, of course.
Touch the Fluffy Tail. Touch them now.
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>>183075070
Its the truth you wont except! You're in denial and refuse to see it!
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>>183075179
You're wrong! You used the wrong accept!
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What the hell is even going on right now?
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>>183075282
Oops, but you're still somehow more creepy than Saja!

Ill probably never accept anything you say still.
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>>183075461
do not respond to the obsessed freaks
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featherp0n0s
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>>183074962
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.
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>>183074269
Would a Raphaela. Would not a Saja.

>>183071889
Are these like Eevee evolutions of the same girl? Or is the artist just lacking in ideas?
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>>183075521
That's it! I give up on you! You deserve your loneliness!
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>>183075631
Pretty sure those are just RPG Maker assets
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>>183075815
Thank christ.

>>183074952
His girls are above average and are pretty cute.
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>>183074952
They are cute, but Sugamon is better!
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What's the story behind Reaper, Bahamut, Chaos Pleasure, and all the other non-monster girl summons?
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>>183074952
I like his girls, there pretty cute and they have good lovey-dovey h-scenes. I do agree he doesn't stand out much (granted he only does fodder monsters so it's to be expected).
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>>183074952
She has a tattoo, does that make her Queen class?
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>>183038123
I love you, Voreanon! Here is your (you)!
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Who would win in a fight, the canaan sisters or the lizard bandits?
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Which girls got new scenes in part 2?
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>>183077902
Promestein, onahole girl.
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>>183077328
Probably the canaan sisters. While the lizard bandits have an elemental advantage with their fire attacks, their lower ability is reflected in their targeting of weak merchant caravans to make money. The canaan sisters have enough ability to sell themselves as mercenaries.
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>>183078241
>sell themselves as mercenaries
To kill insects. The lizard bandits preyed on caravans because there was no one to sell their services to, except Lucia but they already burned that bridge by disrupting their trade. Miranda has even fought Granberia before, I'm sure they can trim a few overgrown weeds.
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>>183078241
Well they don't have much confidence in themselves as mercs, since if you refuse to pay their 10k hiring fee they keep lowering it until they actually end up paying you to take them.
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>>183077328
I don't know, my lizard bandits are pretty strong but I'm playing on Paradox difficulty.
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>>183062723
>Lady's Village monsters get a pass, considering they were indiscriminately killing male travellers.
>male travellers
Who do you think wants to go to that village anyways? Also they have males in the Paradox version. Is that because of Neris?
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>>183062723
Madame Insect and Umbrella go to iliasburg because it was too tumultuous, even for them.
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>>183062992
I know this is a few hours old, but yes, multiple gamblers/dark faeries stack. I set up a party of Luka and all dark faerie gamblers in part one (plus some random gambler because I don't think there were enough faeries to completely fill out the party). Then I started playing cards. I got a Royal Flush about 10 minutes later. Then I went and used the slot machines and got 777 after 5 minutes. Then I went back to playing cards and got another Royal Flush within another 10 minutes. The odds of getting two royal flushes and a 777 in less than 30 minutes are too astronomical for all of those gambling buffs not to have stacked.
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>>183079763
>The odds of getting two royal flushes and a 777 in less than 30 minutes are too astronomical for all of those gambling buffs not to have stacked.
Maybe y we should ask a math guy
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https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/149286560/#149305262
>hyphen
lmao
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>>183078898
I actually payed 10k to them. Fuck.
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>>183080654
No one said anything about hyphen
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>>183076909
So
What are you wearing?
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>>183081210
fuck off grigori
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>>183076295
Delphinus felt like drawing normal monsters.
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>>183081210
SANTIAGO
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DED29DdVoAEPWd3.jpg
I wish I was that bear
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So where do you find the elf princess? She's supposed to be infront of the snake shrine but she's nowhere to be found
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>>183082369
do the nekomata shrine quest
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>Playing Paradox 1
>Finally get everyone to 2000+ Affection
>Get Gnome to 10,000
>That only took 8 hours
>Look at Paradox 2
>Realize I need to get everyone to 6000 Affection
Fuck.
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>>183075572
keep crying about your mentally retarded monster lord monsterbabbies
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>>183082886
You don't get any new rewards though
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>>183082469
Which one is that?
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>>183082469
But I don want to
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>>183083784
The one with the nekomata.
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Does Alma Elma ever show up in Paradox? thats all i care about.
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>>183084781
Yes, she even joins your party temporarily
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>>183083149
You have a problem with Nero? I'll strangle you, idiot.
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>>183058365
Even at absolute full power with the spirits, it's stated that his journey to heaven 'would not really have gone any differently' because 'he's still only about equal to Eden' which means that by the time he got through tons of angels to get there, he's getting spanked by her.

Anyway, Heinrich was cool in the original where it was said that he turned on Ilias because "he realized the true nature of the angels" but Paradox seems likes it's making it out more towards him getting manipulated/duped by Black Alice into it, if Ilias's desperate taunting towards Alicetroemeria is anything to go by. And that's significantly less badass imo

>>183063036
He denies it technically but while also giving an explanation on why he did it(it was just a job from -someone who was probably working for Alice 15-)

>>183074669
>Putting airhead for Sylph there instead of the original chipapa

tsk tsk
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>>183084781
Unfortunately, her design was given to a horrible artist, Granberia too. She's barely recognizable.
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>>183084781
As a schoolgirl
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>>183085528
Well, I don't know about you, but I sure wouldn't mind getting spanked by Eden, if I could.
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Calling it now, Sonya beats Black Alice.
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>>183061917
>>183061973
funny enough, beat the game, but cant unlock medal king's ghost using medal queen, the quest doesnt seem to be at the board in the castle and bringing her to the grave does nothing...
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>>183086768
If an apoptosis could beat Black Alice, then the game would have ended before it began.
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Can we agree that instead of doing what she did after obtaining dark magic Illias should just take some humans or weed and colonize another planet?
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>>183087014
Sonya and luka
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>>183033743
Hello there.
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Anyone else disappointed that BA is the big bad again?
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>>183087108
>again
Black Alice was a red herring in the original, Ilias was the true mastermind.
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>>183086426
Do any of the girls spank you?
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>>183087108
I doubt it. Someone else is going to be the big bad in the end.
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>>183087108
She's not bad. She just wants to play.
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>>183087298
Erubestie
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>>183087108
No. I'm actually glad that she's the big bad this time (since last time she wasn't). Plus having her as the big bad is what ties Paradox back into the original VN.
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>>183087108
Expecting her to be the big bad is too obvious. The real big bad is Nero.
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>>183062263
go away! retard!
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Can a guy be too nice to dry fish?
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>>183087954
too late... i guess.
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>>183087883
>Each part of Paradox features Luka taking increasingly larger and more realistic dicks in preparation for the final boss battle
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>>183088075
What's worse that two huge maid dicks
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>>183088535
One large dick from a man.
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Worlds I wanted to see in Paradox
>World where final form Ilias won
>world where Promestein won
>world where Black Alice (Ilias absorbed) won
>world where Alice became a tyrant
>world where Luka killed Alice
>world where Ilias nor Alipheese discovered earth
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>>183088535
Cockvore
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>>183087605
When did that ever happen?
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>>183088752
Just write them!
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>>183088765
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>183088752
I want to see the world where Luka was born a girl and took up battlefucking
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>>183089102
I don't exactly have confidence in my writing >>183063984
And after seeing how maligned edgy is, I don't think fanfics are well received.
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>>183089261
He'd be the world's only female sub and spectacularly fail at battlefucking
Which would make him really popular with men who want to be in charge for once
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>>183089789
Luka is best waifu.
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>>183089789
>men in charge
Luddite...
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>>183089642
What do you have to lose!
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>>183090531
They are gone
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>>183090681
Become the next edgy
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>>183090756
Are they actually dead or not? Are their souls being sexually abused in another realm?
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>>183091215
But good!
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>>183088752
>World where final form Ilias won
>world where Luka killed Alice
These could just be the exact same as the first Tartarus except that Ilias is fucking Luka.
>world where Ilias nor Alipheese discovered earth
Caveman times.
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>>183091505
Up to debate if edgy is good now compared to years ago.
>S&P was years ago
I feel old
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>>183091735
I doubt humans would exist without Ilias
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>>183091735
In one world, Ilias wipes out humanity to create her master race. In the other, the heavenly knights have to rally together in a futile attempt to stop Ilias's invasion. There is potential in both settings.
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Which is the best loli succubus?
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>>183092113
Maybe hk can fuse into one being to fight illias
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>>183092249
Stop shilling this game
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>>183092113
But there is no invasion if Luka kills Alice
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>>183092387
She lied.
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>>183064338
>"WHAT?!"
Should've been
>"YOU MOTHERFUCKER!"

>>183074617
Poseidon's Bell.
Luka can crap better food than Tofu.
And plenty of monstergirls want Luka to touch better parts of their bodies.

>>183074952
Indeed, he makes cute grils.

>>183082369
You people should follow the fucking guide better. Do the Dullahan sidequest in full which unlocks the asian jobs.

The guide may not be the best written but it DID cover the fact that you need to do something at EACH shrine, not just go beat up Shirohebi and call it a day.
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>>183092370
Wat

I've seen this game posted in this general maybe 3 times over the course of the last year.
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>>183092504
Why would she lie about this to Black Alice from all people
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>>183092370
I didn't know Japanese devs posted here.
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>>183092113
>Ilias wipes out humanity to create her master race.
That's just the first tartarus with humans 2.0
>the heavenly knights have to rally together in a futile attempt to stop Ilias's invasion
I'd take that just for the original Alma Elma and Granberia. If you want that in Paradox it sounds like it would derail the game from the ancestors unless this is the world where the second generation angels came from.
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>>183092514
The guide isn't really needed in the first place as the game is pretty forward about everything.
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>>183092616
There was a few posts about it near the end of the last thread so he thinks it's a conspiracy.
Or it's a joke but it wasn't very funny.
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>>183092617
Because she can.
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>>183092617
Because not doing so would tip her off about knowing her intention to absorb her.
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>>183092249
Wait that got translated?
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>>183092113
Paradox 3 already has two new worlds to explore. The last thing we need is more heavenly knight fellation and wankery.
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>>183093113
That's google translate my man.
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>>183092753
>>183093142
I should rephrase, I would like these possibilities explored since Paradox establishes them as their own timelines.
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>>183066881
Objectively speaking:

Alice
>acts exactly like her normal self all the time, even in original form she was childish and petty
>gains no level of humility in her depowered form
>acts like being imprisoned was part of her big plan, twice, so you may as well have left her ass locked in jail, since it was part of her "plan" right?

Ilias
>initially acts like her normal self
>gains increasing levels of humility over time
>when imprisoned, asks and begs for help, from others, because she's become humble enough to do so
>becomes a better person looking to help and save others

Part 2 makes the contrast quite noticeable too. Once you reach Paradox Ilias in the final shrine, she's got a curt attitude with everyone, and is killing White Rabbit repeatedly for her amusement... which is how Lolias behaves when first encountered.

Ilias, when circumstances prevent her from messing it up, is just a much better person than Alice.
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>>183093260
Lies all google translate does is spew gibberish
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>>183092514
>>183092841
Indeed. If you are using a text hooker, you'd know that all the shrines have some issue.

Furthermore, the fact that the quest didn't complete and you didn't get a reward... should probably tip someone off that it wasn't done.
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>>183093395
Ilias also pisses off Queen Ant so you have to fight her in her route.
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>>183093395
>Objectively speaking
Right.
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>>183082886
it's way easier in paradox 2 with tier 3 cooking stuff
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>>183093641
From my understanding, Queen Ant was in Attack-On-Sight mode and the only reason she doesn't in the Alice route is due to recognizing Alice, not because of Ilias' provocation.
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I always liked how in the IIias route when a boss starts talking shit IIias's smiling picture appears telling the boss we're going to crush them. Kind like how Hild always goes into battle routine mode
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>>183092249
The art style reminds me of gamu
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>>183094875
Hild has a few funny ones too where she gives an enemy some comical designation, I just can't recall any examples.
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>>183094012
Except for some of the abominations and constructs.
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QUICK, KITSUNES OR HARPIES?
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>>183095180
Kitsune! Who wants a flattie birdbrain anyway!
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>>183095180
Angels obviously
Kitsunes are nice though
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>>183095180
Both sound delicious.
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>>183095383
>I know, right?
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>>183095180
Clearly kitsunes
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>>183095680
What's that picture from?
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>>183095383
>>183095680
vorefags are disgusting but it pleases me to know you are all losers
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How did Sonya not go mental after having to watch Luka and the pirates battlefuck? especially with the positions they were doing.
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>>183095180
Kitsunes. Not that Harpies are bad mind, but (to me) Kitsunes are generally better.
>>183096098
Since it looks like it's actually drawn by UN_DO, I'm gonna take a guess it's either from his twitter or his pixiv. Just a guess though, don't actually know. Though, it could be from someone who's just really good at replicating their style I guess.
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>>183096256
>"Aren't you glad Luka? You can go back and battlefuck anytime. Anytime. Anytime"
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>>183093283
I think a good premise is a prequel story where Nero and Neris hop around a bunch of worlds in order to find the paradox one would be good.
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>>183096972
I hope she realizes by now Luka has no romantic feelings for her at all
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>>183097385
Or whatever Marcellus has been doing.
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>>183097609
If Marcellus joins our group, I wonder what level he'll be, and what jobs and races he'll have. Hero is an obvious one for jobs, but what other jobs will he have learned (Probably the Warrior line, and like Heinrich had Temple Knight, probably something unexpected but logical seeming too), and would his Race just be normal human? Or would he somehow have another Race in addition? It'd be funny if despite being less of a cyborg than the Pope he had access to the Doll set of Races.
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So I've seen that there's new art of wormiel which actually looks decent. Is Wormiel hidden away somewhere in Part 2, or is the image unused?
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>>183097578
I mean he clearly has feelings for her since he was willing to kill ANYONE that tried to harm her after she was turned back from an Apoptosis. He's just a pervert.
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>>183097609
That's a good idea as well. But it's a pet peeve of mine when stories greatly differ from established canon. I feel like Marcellus will be given a proper backstory, whereas Nero and Neris's antics can be left to the imagination.
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>>183097385
I don't think they looked for very long considering Nero was surprised at seeing so many magic users.
I'm 99% that gigantic tartarus leads to the VNs.
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>>183098129
I doubt Marcellus is just a case of gitting gud. Dude must be way more than a human at this point.
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>>183098129
Marcellus oneshots Adramalech and white Rabbit. He can enter alternate realities at will. He's clearly more like a God than an ordinary hero.
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>>183097578
And why should he?
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Do you think the final part will have the ng aspect actually be part of completing the story?
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>>183099260
Perhaps if you have all the characters from the other route, Alice/Ilias joins you and enables a third option.
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If i have part 2 do the new scenes activate after i go through the cave?
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>>183098816
The gigantic tartarus is the 'Chaos Field' which seems like it'd be the final dungeon where Black Alice is if anything
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>>183098530
What? Also, you're kinda right, even some monsters during their temptation scene remark how Luka had been looking at their breasts and there's really no story reason for battlefucking, it doesn't move the plot at all.
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>>183049250
Eh, anyone know? The OP picture of the last thread looks cropped and I was just wondering.
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Stopped grinding on Mimic island, started grinding in Coliseum unlimited whatever it called matches (with Sphinx\Yamato\Levi as final fight), use miracle song for triple XP boost.
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>>183099980
just use genius seeds
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>>183099606
Perhaps Alice/Ilias don't join but become friends and try to rape you together.
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>>183099606
I was thinking more like
Using past knowledge to save Micheala or that one world
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>>183099260
It'd be neat I guess, but I kind of doubt it. All 3 parts together is a long game and making an ending that requires going through 2 times to see is probably a bit overkill.

Also just the fact that from a workload and content perspective, part 3 already looks ridiculously implausible from a developmental side with all the stuff that's already planned. Adding another yet bonus route like that would make him a mad man. A MAD MAN
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>>183099884
>What
At the end of the Alice route the Shikibus contemplate getting rid of her and Luka says that he would kill them or anyone else that tries.
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>>183100998
And the IIias route?
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>>183074952
Best new-to-paradox artist imo. We need more of him.
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>>183074952
All his girls look the same
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>>183101749
Sonya rewinds time to before she became an Apoptosis and creates a separate version of herself to take her place. So no one even remembers she's an Apoptosis except Luka, who vows to rescue her.
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>>183080654
People bitch and moan about how bad /mgqg/ was, but at least we had drawfags back then to go with our cancer. Now we just have cancer (and slightly more to talk about). I'm really not sure that /mggg/ is better.
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>>183074952
Devil Fighter, Rabbit girl, Succubus Nun and Oni girl are his,right? what's this about lovey dovey? They don't kill Luka in their rape scenes?
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>>183085182
You actually like that stupidly edgy lookin' scythe weildin' grass cuttin' four eyed ramen slurpin' squinty eyed incest haven' purple skinned milk drinkin' skirt wearin' ninny git?!
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>>183091735
>world where Ilias nor Alipheese discovered earth
>Caveman times.
Getting some Chrono trigger vibes here. Is TT based enough to do it? Just imagine a bunch of lusty humangirls that only think about sex.
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>>183100315
>making an ending that requires going through 2 times to see is probably a bit overkill.
Automata pulled that off
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>>183102221
I'd rather everyone like the game despite the lack of fanart.
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>>183095680
>>183096098
>>183096571
Un_Do also has this blog where he sometimes puts his extra fanart of MGQ characters and such
http://15tanloveyou.sakura.ne.jp/index.htm
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What the hell is the oni girl talking about in her talk scenes? Who the hell are these taro people?
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>>183104553
If it's an oni, maybe a momotaro reference.
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>>183104312
Cute!
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>>183104783
A what?
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>>183104931
Use google you stupid mother fucker
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>>183104931
Momotaro is a Japanese folktale about a boy born from a peach that was found floating in a river. He meets up with a dog, pheasant, and monkey and defeats some oni. It's commonly referenced and parodied in modern Japanese media.
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>Has spider devour Lamia sisters
>"Hey you are nice can we join you?"
I love that the player can use predation.
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>>183095180
Tamamo is the only monster for me.
>>
Has anyone else had item images disappear on updating to 2.02? I was starting a NG+ and I first noticed when the apple in Luka's house had no image in the text box, but it seems like no items anywhere have a picture
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>>183104312
Cute! I like the one with Miyabi and Francesca. Chome and Saki is also nice.
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>>183105393
Ah,okay, thanks,anon.
>>183105659
I still don't understand why a battlefucker has usable moves cowgirl and finishing grind, how does that affect female monsters at all?
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>>183106232
They have sextoys don't they?
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>>183105659
It's my goal to have Tiny Lamia eat every single enemy in the game that can be affected by Predation.
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>>183108608
>Tiny Lamia eat every single enemy
It's nice to see that Paradox strayed from the source material.
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>>183108923
>Shirohebi was actually dead serious when she said that she would kill her if she wanted to be queen lamia
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>>183102296
Yeah, those are some of his girls. His only girls who can kill you in their scenes are the Succubus Nun and the Vore Plant, but they're still doing it in a kind of lovely way.
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>>183108923
Having Tiny Lamia eat Sandworms was the only thing that allowed me to keep my sanity when I had to spend 4 hours trying to recruit one.
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>>183109248
So, about the same amount of time that she took to finish digesting the first one?
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>>183105393
Including in porn!
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>>183109182
Is there any updated version of that for Paradox 2?

I know Cool Kyou went from just 1 monster to making half a dozen.
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>>183098864
Yes, but that doesn't say what Jobs or races he'll have if he joins us. I'm looking for speculation as to what he would have. He would likely have the warrior and Hero lines Job wise (tier 3 if not the currently hidden tier 4) and likely some other miscellaneous jobs, such as how Alma Elma has Doctor and Chef, Race wise, well, he would have human, but what else would he have? ... Apoptosis? Somehow? Anyway, what's everyone else's speculation on what jobs he might have?
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>>183109932
If by half a dozen you mean 2, then yes
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>>183079763
That's really good to know, thanks anon.
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>>183109941
Well, if Heinrich really banged Remina's Princess, Marcellus has Proto-human blood. So probably same as Grangold King. I mean, he can't have become as powerful without having awoken is Proto-Human blood, right ?
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>>183110008
It's literally half a dozen though.
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>>183109941
He obviously has apoptosis parts integrated into his body just by looking at him, he must be a major chaos. Jobwise, he has to be a godly swordsman and time mage to cut through Adramalek like butter and then teleport away.
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>>183110008
No, he made a bunch more. I can recognize any artist from their style.
>Novistador Girl
>Paizuri Doll
>Maid Succubus
>Slime Cube
>Giant Girl
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>>183110332
Please post the last picture in the set. I want to see my favorite artist.
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>>183109182
Succubus nun kills you?I guess it's because she loses control of herself nd her monster instincts take over, The Nun Lamia does it in part 3 but I don't know if she does it in paradox
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>>183110332
Jesus, Stealth Kagyou is terrible
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>>183110647
The Scale Bandits are okay though.
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>>183110403
>Novistador
Nigga what
Unless there's something with the same name that's not from resident evil, how does that catapillar look anything remotely like a Novistador
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>>183110332
What the hell? is that girl a prototype of wht Black Alice becomes?
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>>183110647
I like how shiny Stealth draws hair.
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>>183110647
His art reminds of of PC-98/DOS games
That's a good thing by the way
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>>183110827
That's what it's named. Same as his only part 1 monster being called Bandersnatch.
Also, there's an unused breastfeeding temptation cut-in alongside the nipple fucking one. It's only one picture though.
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>>183110902
You mean the angel-demon? No, she has both powers but she can't use both at the same time or she'll blow herself up. Less fruit juice and more oil-water.
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>>183110332
>make monmusu quest doujin(s),
>become actual monmusu quest artist
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Who is the best monster queen and why is it Fatima
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>>183111502
>>183110902
>Favorite random enemy design
>think about what builds she can have
>Yoma only
>if part 3 fixes this it will be for everyone so why bother
just why?
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>>183112029
>Make a bunch of porn, a doujin about MGQ, then become an actual MGQ artist (while also doing some stuff for Succubus Prison). Most of this porn involves straight shota and/or infantilization.
>Do a manga and anime too under the same pin name
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>>183111502
That sounds difficult, what kinda character is the one you recruit and how lewd is she?
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>>183105659
Me too.

>>183110305
That is actually the presumed reason Luka and Marcellus can travel through the tartarus doors.

>>183111502
>>183112629
She's the only baseline Holy Yoma so far I believe, while any Yoma can obviously pick up the race. I was supremely disappointed she didn't have Angel.

Then again, XX-7 STILL doesn't have Angel, and she's got a fucking Halo, and was an important desing step in Holy+Dark fusion research.

At least those 2 Angel chimeras have Angel.
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Do you know, or at least imagine why you're into femdom?
I grew up as the youngest in the family for 17 years and surrounded by women, since I had no male cousins and both my brother and my dad lived in another city.
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>>183115215
What does that have to do with femdom?
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>>183115215
I'm not so much into femdom,
as much as I like the manga styled porn,
but in eroge eromanga and hentai it rarely looks like the woman is enjoying looks like rape or borderline rape most of the time, unless its femdom, and thats kind of why I gravitated toward it.
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>>183115301
Having only females in positions of power over you, I imagine
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>>183115446
The implications of these statements are unsettling.
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>>183115215
I'm into everything except guro, scat, vore, and bimbos.
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>>183115301
>>183115446
Yeah, I was always being ordered around by older women, and I would constantly play with my cousin and her group of friends whenever I visited her. She's 4 years older than me.
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>>183115446
you know now that you mention it, my mom was rather domineering and was that one that disciplined me ,
could that have contributed?
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>>183115215
I'm only into lolidom because the concept is so fetishitic.
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>>183115682
Tha comes across as incestuous.
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>>183115820
Of course at the time there wasn't anything perverted, but over time it might have influenced me.
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>>183116069
>at the time there wasn't anything perverted
How disappointing.
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Am I doing this game wrong? I fapped to few of the battlefuckers scenes and even put Luka at the hp needed for him to cum right at the very end
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>>183116069
Okay Freud.
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>>183115820
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>>183115738
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2216754
you remind of a friend of mine in highschool,
he would cheat by copying from my paper and yet somehow still got lower scores.
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>>183116649
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
how i care about cheat, remeber i was a cancer
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>>183115215
Beats me, as young as around 4 I used to have dreams of woman with hypnotic breasts, and I used to lose to girls on purpose in various kids games.
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>>183117032
hahaha what
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>>183115215
I may have been molested by a female babysitter when I was a boy.
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>>183117201
I honestly feel sorry for you.
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>>183117201
May have? That's not something you should be unsure of.
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>>183115215
When I was young I remember getting a full mast whenever I saw women killing/seducing men, like Poison Ivy and Mystique
I also get hard by feet as long as I can remember
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>>183117438
its so long ago and the memory so hazy thats its one of those memories where you dont know if its a memory of something that actually happened or a memory of a dream. I dont know if other people get those.
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>>183117708
So it didn't happen then.
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>>183117602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ_78H2cvTE
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>>183117793
its a big question mark,
some of those types of memories ended up being true and same didn't.
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>>183118002
So you're a schizophrenic.
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>>183117708
Nobody remembers dreams that long. Well, unless you realize that it's a dream without waking up. I had one of those in which my aunt molested me. I knew it was a dream because she kept whispering that it was just a dream, which is why I still remember it to this day.
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>>183118323
was your aunt hot
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>>183071197
Nice picture, ant.
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>>183069047
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>>183118827
I want to punch those breasts.
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>>183118587
As hot as a glacier.
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>>183119105
lame
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>>183118323
>Nobody remembers dreams that long
I do, I remember a lot my dreams,
I remember a dream I had when I was where im exploring in a giant robot and then fight a Xenomorph.
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"What a miserable guy ...... There are rare people who have brought this stinky odor to this point."
-Google Translate on Nero

You know, I almost feel compelled to like him by how mean everybody is to him, even google
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>>183110305
>>183113484
>That is actually the presumed reason Luka and Marcellus can travel through the tartarus doors.
Not the proto-human blood part, yeah? But the fact that he has Reminian blood flowing through his veins and Remina was completely swallowed up by the Tartarus.
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Sometimes a dream is memorable for one reason or another.

Like I had a dream of reuniting with an ex I had a lot of issues with and, while we were getting along, she was being passive aggressive the whole time. Then, to fuck with me so we couldn't have sex, she transformed into a cat.
Not a catgirl.
A cat.
A cat is NOT fine too.
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>>183117032
I like shiki a lot but does that head look (badly) photoshopped in or what
Also, same here those succubi in Castlevania hnng
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>>183120803
I've never liked centaurs or other such characters, but for some reason Tezcat is fucking perfect, and she's somehow quickly become one of my favorite monster girls. Her vanilla, babymaking sex scene probably helped a lot. Wish I could write moonrunes so I could send UN_DO a letter telling him how great I think she is.
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>>183120803
Dreams are symbolic in nature. So your ex turned into a cat was symbolic of her giving you what you wanted (pussy) but not in the way that you wanted. So worry not, you don't actually desire to have sex with cats.
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>>183120803
Some dreams I remembered for years, sometimes for the most stupid reasons, and I don't know why, but I always pretend like they're meant to mean something bigger, to the point where I actually started talking with some people because I had dreams with them.
One of my dreams that I still remember to this day is from back when Naruto was still somewhat new in the west. I don't remember the details, but I remember it involved Hinata saving my life. She became my first waifu after that.
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>>183121248
Something about how an ancient monster brought back by Black Alice to spread discord can end up marrying Luka and having a family with him amuses me
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>>183115215
When i was younger i though about women chasing and raping me.
This was also around the time Halo 2 was released and i was like 6-7. And from there i just kinda never got over femdom.

>>183121171
>I like shiki
Do not trust the Shikibi. They do not understand love. They will kill you.
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I'm confused.
Paradox Black Alice is not Chaos God Black Alice, right? She wouldn't need backup then as she could easily crush everyone and her presence should be causing chaos.

But then where did she come from? She's clearly VN Black Alice. Do we have two of the same person from the same timeline from around the same time period in play?
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>>183121714
Paradox Luka already has a family. It's called the campion castle. Everyone is familyour in that castle.
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>>183122323
>Paradox Black Alice
Be more specific on who that is. Heinrich's girlfriend or the one that commands puppets of the other monster lords?
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>>183122323
Well Black Alice's objective doesn't seem to be crushing people so much as having a fun party.

That said, yeah. The way she acts in Part 1 doesn't really feel right when compared to what we know from part 2. It is a mystery.
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>>183120803
I had a dream years ago that alma elma was my mom,
it was non sexual,
even the part where we took a bath together was platonic.
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>>183122536
Puppetmaster.

We can easily distinguish that other Alice by calling her Alicetromeria
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>>183122323
Let's definitely determine which Black Alice it is.

VN Black Alice
>Talking about her defeat by Luka
>Spent most of her time in heaven during the VN, Paradox Black Alice was probably deleted with heaven

Paradox Black Alice
>Knows Kagetsumugi, as she wasn't present in the VN
>Unwilling to challenge Neris when she reveals herself
>Alicetromia's precognition that she would be defeated by Heinrich implies that all black Alice's are meta aware of their fates.
Personally, I think they are all the same. Like all Black Alice's are facets of the same chaos entity.
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>>183122323
The VN Black Alice also didn't need to spread around artificial spirits or recruit monsters. This is essentially the same thing, but with more powerful minions.
Presumably, Chaos God Black Alice is capable of controlling chaos in a similar way to Nuruko.
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>>183123405
>Like all Black Alice's are facets of the same chaos entity.
That... doesn't seem to be true because Alicetromeria directly calls Alice 16 her descendant. She actually believes she will have children when she and Alice first talk.
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>>183123405
I don't really think that Aliceroemeria has all that much meta knowledge. She's smart considering that she figured out the party's role but I think what she knows is still limited.
Alicetroemeria seems to know that she'll be defeated by Heinrich (no duh) but doesn't seem to know that she'll be KILLED by him.
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>>183123405
>Alicetromia's precognition that she would be defeated by Heinrich implies that all black Alice's are meta aware of their fates.
Or that she figured it out from Luka's dialogue with Heinrich. Heinrich figured out that they were from the future and that he would defeat Black Alice despite the party trying to hide it from him.
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>>183124052
Seems like every bloodlines of Heinrich meet an Alice before. Also meeting the crazy ones too. Alicetromeria, Lucifina, Alice, Ilias, and Sonya. Why is it that it's always crazy bitches.
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>>183124715
Don't forget Alice 15th.
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>>183125014
Marcellus didn't fuck her though.
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>>183125161
I like to think he did and luka and alice are half siblings.
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>>183122407
A castle full of angels, monsters, royalty,tartarus monsters and dimension deleting atrocities. I like how certain characters love the castle such as the homeless battlefucker from slumville. I look forward to the day the knights join us and Riot tries to fight with Granberia or Tamamo backing up Kitsu-nee's bullshit explanations.
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>>183125161
They still met.

Also WHO THE FUCK IS ALICE 16TH'S DAD?
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>>183125265
Someone strong enough to defeat her, so probably Luka's grandfather.
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>>183125190
>>183125265
Alice was 6 by the time they met. You incest freaks are insane.
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>>183125387
I was just asking who the hell could he be. Its stupid to think Marcellus would be her father, and almost impossible as Marcellus is known to meet Alice 15th once, and then assisted her suicide.

As to who the fuck Alice 16ths dad could be all we know is that the 15th had to rape someone and we dont know who, but considering that Alice's loli form is able to quite easily fight her mother its safe to say he was strong.
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>>183121248
I'll get it up for centaur girls sometimes, but I do agree Tezcat just so cute that it's easy to like her design even with that much cat-taur going on.

>>183121395
Nah, I think it was mostly just inspired by Yoruichi from Bleach, and the cat symbolism would more so be associated with the stereotypes of cats as only being affectionate when they want the attention.

ie It was an admission to myself that my relationship with her was very one-sided, on her terms, and I was discarded when I was inconvenient. Not exactly a mind-blowing revelation though, since we both outright said any relationship between us would go this way, the very first time we'd ever talked at length. If nothing else, both of us have a pretty a solid grasp on the type of people we are.

>>183121538
D'aawwwww.
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>>183125265
Alice said it was just some unimportant guy so it was probably just some unimportant guy.

If there was a super human running around 20ish years before the VN then I'm sure someone would have made mention.
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>>183124010
Nah, that's called being a lineal descendant. Alice is still Black Alice's (collateral) descendant.
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>>183125387
>Alice was 6 by the time they met.
maybey it wasn't the first time they met,
maybey she could have bang him in her human form.
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>>183125964
If all you attract are crazy women, maybe you should take a look at yourself...
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>>183126076
>Alice said it was just some unimportant guy so it was probably just some unimportant guy.
but wouldn't it be funny if it was one of the perverts
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>>183126076
Must had been a weak guy. No wonder she didn't kill anyone in the suicide fight.
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>>183126076
Given that monster lords have master race pussies, it's probably not just some rando. Probably a noteworthy warrior or aristocrat.
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>>183126145
I'm well aware of my abundance of issues.
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>>183126398
>it's probably not exactly what she said it was
Why do people do this
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>>183126849
All Alice says is that she doesn't know her father and that it's unimportant in monster culture.
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>>183126723
Perhaps we can solve them together.
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>>183123405
At first I was going to say that it seems like it'd be pretty shitty to just write out a major character like Black Alice by saying "welp, she sunk with heaven and died off-screen"

But then when you think about, it's kind of weird that heaven was hit directly by Black Alice. Like you can say it's a coincidence and it just happened to be in the way, but what if it was on purpose?

I could easily see them doing that it to have her say something about how there's no room for 2 Black Alices in the same world so the first thing she did was eliminate the original world's version of herself to demonstrate what an asshole she is(and Ilias was actually just collateral damage)
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So, how can they up the ante of battlefuckers in part 3? full on sex isn't allowed and even in part 2 there are no battlefuckers who do as much damage as the ninja, why was she so skilled?
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>>183127993
She was actually a plot relevant character tho
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>>183127993

The old rules that the first battlefucker in Iliasville talked about, first to cum loses, our boy Luka might finally outfuck a woman.
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>>183128319
>our boy Luka might finally outfuck a woman.
>They proceed to rape him twice as hard
Even when the woman cums first Luka must still never be in control.
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>>183128319
>Luka
>outfucking anything
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>>183128553
he gets more pussy than anyone you know
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>>183128553
It's not like Luka gets completely embarrassed every time. Him and Spider Princess came at the same time for example.
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>>183128553

After all that edging he should have something to show for it.
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>>183128846
Don't forget him and Riot, that was such a weird scene. I didn't expect her to be a tsundere
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After making Pyhar untouchable to all non autohit attacks, I understand why trtr nerfed ability stacks.
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So, any assjobs in part 2? Surely one of the pirates did something like that to him,right? I heard they were all naked
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>>183130203
It would had been hilarious if they decided to balance it with bosses having multiple attacks and predation spam.
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>>183128535
Well Luka makes up for it with his shota charms. Though that comes with a price of having to deal with a lot of woman problems and a lot of kids he'll have to take care of. Too much love can kill a man.
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>>183128846
Centaur also. And Wolf too I believe.

>>183130068
>Tsundere infantalism progresses to sharing an onahole
I didn't expect that shit. Not one damn bit.
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>>183131943
Sharing an onahole actually sounds kind of hot.
No homo.
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>>183131635
>lot of kids
>Hundreds of them
>Legitimately hundreds of them
>Children of the Spirits, both normal and Artificial, Monsterlords and even fucking gods.
>Hell he even has children with some of his close relatives
>The hundreds of wives probably want more too
>Meanwhile Heinrich has a single child
>The lucky bastard.
Luka would be too busy being fucked to actually raise them. I wonder who has to raise them then.

I pity the man/woman who has too.
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What kinda advice would new IIias give to succubus nun who feels shame in her sexual desires? Why is it that all the girls who look like her, rabbit,oni,devil hunter,ect are all more gentle with Luka to the point Luka actually wants to go back?
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>>183134198
>IIias give to succubus nun who feels shame in her sexual desires?
>"Its okay to fuck someone just don't kill them, also marry someone for myself's sake!"

Also they're drawn by the same artist and super strong. Meaning they have to be gentle or they're going to, quite literally, break the man in half.
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>>183132712
Hoo boy. Yeah I can see that and holy fuck that would kill the Luka. Let's hope most of Luka's kids are normal. But chances are that isn't going to happen. Man succubus witches prediction was right Luka really does have woman trouble. Wether it's his own family too.
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>>183134198

Moderation and to devote themselves to monogamy?
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>>183134859
>Man succubus witches prediction was right Luka really does have woman trouble. Wether it's his own family too.
>Paradox Luka is raped by his mother, aunt, other aunt
>He is raped by Queens of races too
>He is also raped by the Goddess he worships
>Oh and hes raped by her once mortal enemys , the monsterlords
>She doesn't seem to mind though

Paradox Luka only wants to find his dad, he just wants to live in peace not have the ultimate harem in the multiverse.
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>>183132712

It will be one big communal family.
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>>183134859
>Let's hope most of Luka's kids are normal
>Luka is now father to the next generation of unfortunate monsters
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>>183135326

>Just wants to find his dad
>Gets raped by his mother, his grandmother and his auntie

Poor lad just wants to find his family not get raped by family, he must be traumatized at this point.
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>>183135326
All Paradox Luka wanted all right. He just wanted to have the family finally back together with his mother. I still wonder how Marcellus managed to tame the devil.
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>>183135326
>>Paradox Luka is raped by his mother, aunt, other aunt
Eden? How does her h scene even go? I doubt she'd really care about banging Luka
>>183135326
>>Man succubus witches prediction was right Luka really does have woman trouble. Wether it's his own family too.
She makes that prediction in paradox as well if I'm reading right and did I just lose two party members? two angels came down and took off with them
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>>183135975
>>183136032
>>183136076
>PLuka finally gets to his father
>He breaks down and cries
>He never wanted to be raped like he has
>He never wanted to see his best friend rape him and almost die
>He never asked for any of this
>Literally
>Marcellus's only answer is to hug his son

Sometimes all a man needs is a hug.
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>>183099141
severely weakened adramalech, how do you not know that
from 100% power level to 10% by shiramuymai, last 10% to 0% by luka & co., KS by RULES OF NATURE marcellus means nothing
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I love her so much!
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>>183136076
Eden's scene is actually really good imo. Thank fck she's no longer merged with the fckin gate
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>>183140815
>fck
>fckin
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>>183140815
We're all adults of a sort here anon. You can use profanity.
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I dare you to talk shit about this cutie.
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>>183143428
QUETZALCOATL IS BETTER.

Also they're both retards.
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>>183143507
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>>183140815
is the U key on your keyboard broken or something?
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>>183143428
Her eyes are different
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>>183115215
When I was young I always felt guilty about being lustful, so I would reason that it's fine if I'm resisting and can't help what's happening.
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>>183115215
Im not into femdom itself, more so the positioning therein. I often forget my own strength and I live in fear of injuring a prospective mate.

So the idea of monstergirl femdom appeals to me in that Im not gonna break them.

I recall telling that to and old girlfriend of mine (The fear of harming, not the monstergirl thing), She said she could handle it- and about 5 min later she was unconscious from lack of oxygen.
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>>183056098
Waiting on Torotoro to release 2.10. He's been fast with patches so I figured it would have been out on Monday or Tuesday, but no luck.
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>>183143428
>>183143507
I second this. Mom is clearly superior.
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>>183146159
So what are your thoughts on translating Alicetroemeria's name as Alstroemeria instead?
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>>183146159
2.10 is the playable battlefuckers and new scenes right?
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>>183146320
I think we want to keep the "Alice" part. Been meaning to rename Neris to "Nelice" for a long time too....

>>183146376
Just battlefuckers and balance changes. New scenes won't be until after 2.20.
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>>183143428
She's cute, but the busty birdsnek is so hot.
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>>183146159
Ah i see, thank you for the reply,and as always keep up the good work
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Erushitty is worst girl and worst monster. Do not want.
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>>183148414
>people who espouse this trash use non-topical shitty images to do so
Guess your image choice reflects your opinion.
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Why is there so much unused art for Saja/Shikimamo/Ilias(Alt)?

They have their battle "sprites" done and ready to go, and Sonya's normal apoptosis form has her normal faces.

Saja has a "Nude" set of pictures and Rafaela has a "working(?)" set. Also Nuruko's "EX" form has more then we saw.

Also this unused Zion piece of artwork. It feels like Paradox 2 was supposed to be bigger than it was.
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>>183146647
>Nelice
No. Just no.
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>>183146647
Speaking of renaming, wouldn't it make sense to rename Melon to Suika? I'm not 100% sure what her name is in Japanese, since I always wait on the translation patches, but I imagine that's what the joke with her name originally was. Her castle dialogue would need to be slightly rewritten though, but I imagine it would make for a funnier joke for those who catch it.
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>>183150382
Yes it was. If you check their official website (not blog), there were plans for a black ball machine monmusu and an elf group monmusu as well.

Probably more that they shifted stuff around halfway through dev once they had a clearer picture of how big this part was.
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>>183151462
Looks like the hidden Elf Village was originally planned to be included into part 2 at least. That got moved to part 3.

Can't imagine where the hell that ball machine is suppose to appear though. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with Laplace's panties being the data(same area?)
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>>183151307
I agree, Nelice just sounds bad and clunky. Perhaps Nerice in such a case if you really wanted the Alice link.

I mean, no one's calling Nero Nello or Nelo, that'd be dumb.
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>>183152435
>Nello
Nero needs jello to mellow.
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>>183152620
If it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down.
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>>183152620
Wonder if he ever got bored one day and fucked Undine?
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>>183154469
>bored
Nero and Neris kinda came to the Paradox universe to have fun.

Then they realized they were far, FAR, over their heads. Hell Nero was confused by everything at first then sometime happens for them to realize whats happening. And something is "wrong" with Angel Halo because of its power.
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so what's the strongest jobs/races now?
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>>183155657
I use force chimera Grangold king with some advanced magic job
Stack his mag boosting abilities and he deals tons of damage with ruling skills

The game is getting rebalanced anyway, TT is planning to nerf dual wield and/or buff masteries
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>>183151405
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>>183155657
Luka: Lord Valkyrie+Swordsmaster (With Master Sworderer(100% Magic Reflect/50% Magic defense), Dark Swordsman (Ending skill is the highest damaging swordskill ingame) and Holy Knight(The extra holy skills are fucking amazing)).

Queen Harpy:Queen Harpy (Duh) + Divine Songstress with War Miko mastered (She can always use dancing skills but can't use dancing, shes basically Saki and a Wing-Harpy combined)

Alictromeria: Noble Yoma seems to be the best (Shes Alice on crack with races, she has 10 races mastered, Beast, Yoma, Lamia Scylla, Land/Sea Dweller, Alraune) + Inferno Mage with Arctic/Gigavolt and Space time mage mastered (Shes insane damage but pretty frail)

Grangold King: Force Mutant (Insane everything + Artificial Spirits) + Pope (He can always use ruling skills!) Inferno/Arctic/Gigavolt/Holy mage (As he also can already use time skills but not as effective as Alictromeria.)

Grangold King is a surprisingly good healer.
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>>183156313
Forgot to say with Grangold King keep him as his special Magus King, only master pope, although he is an amazing healer he can also dish out damage if need be.
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>>183156313
for dark swordsman, is the highest damaging swordskill the single target one that requires HP/sp to use? or the one that targets randomly
also does it have an element associated with it?

>>183155832
how much mag did he have? were u utilizing enemy weaknesses...?
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>>183156717
>for dark swordsman, is the highest damaging swordskill the single target one that requires HP/sp to use? or the one that targets randomly
>also does it have an element associated with it?
No, it costs no HP but 10 SP, and its has Dark associated with it, its a single target though and can seriously ruin anyones day.

It, along with some buffs, and 3-4 shot Chaos Sonya.
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>>183156313
Holy knight doesn't grant extra Holy skills though. Could you be thinking of Paladin and God Fist? Because those do.
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>>183156313
where do you get alictromeria?
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>>183157157
Alice's route only, acquire her during plot. Specifically, whilst you're exploring the world that the Tartarus after Succubus village leads to.
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>>183157040
>Holy knight doesn't grant extra Holy skills though. Could you be thinking of Paladin and God Fist? Because those do.
Maybe i am. Either way it does give you extra Spear skills and they're pretty useful giving 50% more defense and such.
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>>183156717
>how much mag did he have? were u utilizing enemy weaknesses...?
6886 mag(I used the 40% earring and all the abilities like +40% magic, heavy magic, magic converter etc.)

The chimera from the screenshot has no particular weaknesses other than pleasure, but I think I used song of offense beforehand
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>>183157440
Most the the spear skills learned by the holy knight line (including Holy spear guard, the defense boosting one) are learned by the Valkyrie races, meaning for Luka it could be considered largely redundant. I do know that the top tier Holy Knight learns a spear skill at 10 (mastery) that Valkyrie lord doesn't though... No idea how good it is since it's untranslated.
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>>183155832
>The game is getting rebalanced anyway, TT is planning to nerf dual wield and/or buff masteries
Didn't he just say that he'll allow masteries to stack with dual wielding instead?
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>>183156958
i had luka master alot of things without CE, ithink i have too much time on my hands, but it seems like there's an ice 10sp sword skill and a dark 10sp sword skill, both are S ranked and i cant read moonrunes but it seems like the dark one is infinitely better...
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>>183149028
My images, just like my opinions, are always relevant and correct.
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>>183158316
>like the dark one is infinitely better
It is, by a long shot. Had it been a Holy/Light skill opposite to the dark one it would be so much more useful.

As it stands we don't have holy-sword skills it seems.
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>>183159043
we hardly do, there's plenty of holy attribute weapons, of which i ASSUME convey holy damage boosters when equipped with the ability to do so or through traits, dark shit is alot rarer.

for LOC though, since some enemies and bosses tend to reflect physical attacks, what are the strongest dark magic attacks?
im not even sure if bow attacks can be reflected or whether they count as physical or not
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>>183159843
>holy attribute weapons
I think they only have holy as a normal attack as there are abilities that let the standard attack (And going by description ONLY standard) be holy.
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>>183158774
Yupiel best vampire btw
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>>183159043
There's Heavenly Strike and Justice Heaven, but those are restricted to Lucifina and Micaela respectively until part 3 comes out.
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so my game started slowing down significantly (lag) anyone know what's the problem?
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>>183160436
Is there a way
I can give Nanashi money
Without a paper trail?
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>>183155983
Nice melons.
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>>183146647
>Nelice
DONT DO IT DARGOTH
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>>183160594
Actually, Ilas teaches Luka heavenly strike in the last camo scene in her route. So that up to 3 characters I suppose.
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>>183151462
What is wrong with their fingers?
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>>183151462
>>183163104
Anyone mind posting the image for the black ball machine monster girl?
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>>183163154
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>>183146647
>Nelice
YAMEROOOOOOOOOOO
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>>183163215
That looked like a space marine from the thumbnail
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>>183164135
If you equipped hild with a lasgun, bolter or chainsword how much damage would she do?
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>>183164373
>Hild is a super-advanced robot from the future
>Able to use guns, rockets, energy blades
>Able to reproduce even though a robot
>Have actual lasguns and a chainsword
>Still beaten by a fucking child with some iron sword

Being Hild is suffering.
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I love Alice so much!
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>>183164575
>>183164453
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>>183164575
>>183164453
We are all alone anons.

And truth be told even if they did exist the shota dick is too strong for them to resist.
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>>183164550
40k lasguns are a beast of their own
I actually crunched the numbers and calculated the energy of a single lasgun shot is equivalent to the kinetic energy of a pickup truck traveling 120 miles per hours
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I love you anons!
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>>183165078
Are you a cute girl?
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>>183165078
No you dont. You're using "love" as a mask to hide you're emotional void that was caused by the fact you haven't had any physical or psychological affection in your life.
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>>183165280
My love is real!
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>>183165078
patetic
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>>183165078
Are you the vorefag? If so, fuck off and die you piece of shit. If not, love you too!
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>>183165392
No its not. Its just as unreal as your waifu.

Accept it anon.
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>>183165409
You wanna go you piece of shit? I said I love you!
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>>183165645
It is real! It must be hard for you to understand, which is why you spread your misery around! My love is real and so is yours!
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>>183165862
Anon if any of us actually had love we wouldn't be here discussing a JRPG with incredible balance issues and screaming about ourselves while constantly kink-shaming certain people simply because they're noticeable.
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>>183166003
Since when does having love preclude any of that?
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>>183166094
If I had a gf
I would be with her right now combing her hair
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>>183166094
Because you wouldn't be here if you had any.
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>>183166142
What's keeping you here then!
>>183166238
That's a lie and you know it!
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What's Elizabeth's(vampire) ability?
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>>183166142
>>183166238
You have unrealistic views of what being loved is like, anons.
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>>183166003
You would be noticeable too if you posted the same thing everyday like an obsessed freak.
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>>183166356
Well, I certainly want the attention. I should start calling people obsessed freaks everyday. I'm sure someone will notice me, then.
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>>183154573
How much do you think they fucked around before they realized what was happening? Fully realized only after you first see them?
And yeah, being as powerful as they are in paradox I'm sure they were super overleveled in the VN.
Still, imagining Miss Undine, after Nero mastered her, her being all "You know, other than your great grandma and mum, I'm one of the four girls your dad ever fucked"
Why he turned into a momeycon
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>>183166280
I don't know if its a lie i just know its what i believe.
>>183166356
Hello obsessed obsessed freak anon.
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>>183166328
Look I ain't got nothing else to go on but my fantasies
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>>183146647
We gonna pull an Arumaeruma?
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>>183166480
>>183166519
do not respond to the obsessed freaks
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What's his special ability?
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>>183166852
Standing Proud
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>>183166852
Heirophant Green
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>>183166852
His special ability is Stardust Crusaders.
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>>183166852
How is trtr not sued for this? Wasn't the garf***d joke about how draconian censorship laws are in Japan?
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The JoJo guys hardly care, there's so many jojo memes that even in a game that made half a million US they don't have a leg to stand on legally, since they don't care about the memes and meme merchandise.
Plus, in japan, so long as you call it "Parody" you're fine. Maybe misspell a letter or two, but if you do you can get away with anything, complete in universe, all character with original names. It being in it's own universe setting, as in not just a bland area full of copyrighted characters, that the MGQ world itself is copyrighted, it's fine.
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>>183167571
I dunno. It's probably because JoJo gets referenced so often in Japanese media that he's probably fine either way. Same goes for stuff like Scat Captain since there's more than enough direct references to Gundam in japanese media. It depends on what franchise is referenced, of course. I doubt the people behind what Garf***d is referencing would take as well to it being referenced in a porn game in comparison to Araki who is pretty fine with having hentai reference his work.
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The next time toto has a q and a someone should ask him if those request scenes and battlefucks are canon. because if they re, Sonya has to be the most cucked childhood friend in existence
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>>183167905
This. Literally the child friendly hello kitty grand masters having their company name defiled in a game literally called "Loose and be raped". Maybe that's why the censorship jokes where for that specific reference
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>>183168038
Why wouldn't the battlefuckers be canon?
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>>183168309
They can be canon, Luka actually battlefucking with them might not be as there's no story related thing tied to it.
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>>183168458
Salaan is story related though.
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>>183168672
Yeah, but her battlefuck might not be. I'm still wondering how she can do 1200 damage, that's that the highest in the game even with part 2 and she doesn't even get full naked for it. How can a human be so skilled?
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>>183168985
>How can a human be so skilled?
She has red eyes.

Its probably because shes not fully human.
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>>183167905
I remember in monster musume
Papi cosplayed as utsuho from touhou
But that was completely removed from the anime adaptation
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>>183168985
She's a ninja.
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How is comiket a thing if Japanese laws are as draconian as you claim?
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>>183169075
It was a shitty chapter anyway
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>>183169187
Says you
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>>183169246
t. Ms. Smith
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>>183169056
I guess so, but doesn't Sara do less damage in her fake battlefuck?
>>183169102
I don't think ninja are suppose to be skilled is sexual techniques, also, she's not a ninja, she's an assassin
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>>183168297
Didn't that one character made to promote learning english (Ellen Baker ) get discontinued because doujin makers made way too much porn of her and made parents uneasy about her?
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>>183169441
>I don't think ninja are suppose to be skilled is sexual techniques
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>>183169704
I remember the first hentai I saw was la blue girl
I remember thinking I'm only watching this in morbid curiosity there's no way I'll ever rap to this stuff
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>>183169812
*fap*
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>>183169678
Yes but I don't think anyone was sued.
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>>183169812
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Blue_Girl
>Like Maeda's other hentai series (e.g., Urotsukidōji), La Blue Girl features a large amount of tentacle rape. It departs somewhat from its predecessors, however, by lightening the atmosphere with humor, lightly parodying the "tentacle hentai" genre.
>An immensely successful series, La Blue Girl has inspired, over the years, several OVA series for a total of 14 episodes, a comic book adaptation, three live-action movies, some PC games and some art-books.
the fuck
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>>183170107
Back in my day la blue girl was the hentai everyone into hentai knew about
But yeah it was a bit silly
Basically imagine the pleasure attack system from monmusu quest
But animated and with ninjas and monsters and that's what you got.
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How did Ilias carry out her purge without unsealing Alipheese I in the first tartarus world?
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>>183170497
She defeated Alice I
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>>183170540
Then what was the point of the white rabbit plan.
Wouldn't they destroy the earth though?
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>>183170497
Ilias side in that world was strong enough to defeat Alice I and the ancestors, no problem then. And they didn't purge humanity like Ilias wanted to do in the VN, since without the monsters the point behind it was there no more.
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>>183170497
Probably by however she was planning on doing it in the original continuity or she had access to Angel Halo and could just seal them.
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>>183170343
I once saw a webm of a ninja being violated by 3 dudes with one fucking her and the other 2 getting handjobs from her at the same time talking about how they bet her, then she did something like Ninja Art:Vagina tornado and made the dude fucking her cum, then the other two cum with blowjob moves and apparently defeated them, is that it?
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>>183159843
Reaper (summoning) with HP\MP cost hit with dark attribute, also (taoism) dark talisman spell do dark damage and further weaken enemy resist against dark.
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>>183170497
Alipheese didn't have the counter built into her seal in that world, every other answer contradicts the VN too much.
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>>183170774
Maybe
Post webm
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>>183170716
Nah humans were killed.
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>>183170774
Sounds like it
I do remember pleasure attacks worked both ways
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>>183170497
Black Alice was her insurance against the seals breaking, so there's probably a prison full of humans and monsters to keep them sealed.
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>>183171003
Sorry, don't have it, it was days ago on either /gif/ or /h/ I just remember it so well because of the absurdity of it.
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>>183171940
>absurdity of it.
I member one scene where a guy is eating out a girl and she counters by turning her pubes into a splinter attack
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>>183172561
This honestly sounds like what I imagined battle fucking to actually be, through I think there won't be anymore battlefuckers in part 3 considering how 2 ended and there's really no where new in the world to go
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>>183172713
Part 2 also had the first alt-world battlefucker, so reaching the end of the current world shouldn't matter too much. In the current world, there's still Helgondo, the island next to Yamatai, the mountain near Yamatai, and whatever those two mysterious islands will lead us to.
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>>183172713
>no where new in the world to go
Yes in the paradox world.

Who knows what awaits us in the Angel/Monster World(s)? Who knows what awaits us where the first paradox began?

Remember, even if we do defeat black alice, alice 1 and Ilias its not gonna make chaos go away.
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>>183172956
>even if we do defeat black alice, alice 1 and Ilias its not gonna make chaos go away
yes it will
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>>183172956
Humans are slaves in both worlds, how would there be battlefuckers there?
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>>183172956
>angel world
>battlefuckers
???
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>>183170497
Ilias is most likely dead in that world so most likely somebody else not only mutated the angels there but also carried out the purge.
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>>183170497

The bigger question is who carried out the purge considering Ilias disappeared by the time of the great disaster in that world too.
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>>183173762
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>>183173393
Freedom fighters
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>>183170107
La blue girl was the only good English dub of a hentai I've ever seen
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>>183173502
Ilias creuz goes full deus vult
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>>183173809
That won't work
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>>183174165
https://youtu.be/G4jd0UWGPgY
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>>183175448
Won't
Work
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