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/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1300

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■ Current Update (7/5): 「ファンタシースター感謝祭2017 ONLINE」Part4
├ http://bumped.org/psublog/face-a-more-powerful-phantom-battoruship-yamato-as-episode-4-comes-to-an-end/
└ http://pso2.jp/players/event/5th_anniversary/online/webevent/02/

■ Heroes: EPISODE 5 starting 7/26
├ http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-station-9-recap/
├ http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-hero-class-preview/
└ http://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-episode-5-buster-quests/

■ Weekly Boost & Events Schedule
├ http://pso2.jp/players/news/?charid=i_boostevent
├ Google: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=pso2emgquest%40gmail.com
├ Random EQ Hourly Advance Notice (JP): https://twitter.com/pso2_emg_hour
└ Regular Maintenance: Wednesday @ 11:00 ~ 17:00 JST

■ Current Scratches: http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/
├ Eccentric Girls (until 7/26)
├ Tropical Summer Ocean (until 8/9)
└ [SG] Mother Cluster Imitation (until 12/13)

■ Current Collection Files
├ Phantom God (Zeinesis series, until 11/1)
├ Majestic/Phantom Battoruship (until 11/29)
├ Revolutio 2 (until 2018/3/7)
└ Aura (until 2018/3/21)

□ FAQs, Lilipans, Guides, (READ THESE BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS)
├ General Information/News: http://bumped.org/psublog/
├ Basic English Patch: http://pso2.acf.me.uk/Manual/
└ Buy AC using PSO2es: http://pastebin.com/raDBtSpa

□ Database/Wiki
├ http://pso2.swiki.jp/index.php (JP)
├ http://pso2wiki.net/ (JP)
└ http://pso2.arks-visiphone.com (EN)

□ Simulators
├ Skill Trees: http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php
├ Affixing: http://pso2affix.seilent.net/
└ Damage Calculator: http://4rt.info/psod/

Previous Thread: >>182831176
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>>183005462
You're both garbage compared to Fi damage so who cares
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2nd for Matoi a shit.

also this https://twitter.com/ebiiiiiine/status/886798279333117953
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Post your character
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>>183005921
Are these the buster quest units? Those look insane
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Twitter is the no.1 source for nude mods after they fled from 2ch due to leaks
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Reminder we don't have Sword buffs because of Over End + Automated Halfline meme being spun too hard.
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>>183005921
If this is legitimate (and there is a very high chance it is not, let's be real here) these would actually be the Saiki killers Saikifags have been waiting for.
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>>183006043
haven been hopping on since evo was all weekend so i just have old ones
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>>183005921
LMAO@faggots who spent 100m affixing subpar units
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>>183006236
To be honest I really hope it's fake. I really hate how often they introduce unit upgrades now. It's too expensive to constantly reaffix new sets now that you can't sell your old sets any more. We got to wear Saiki for over a year, now they add better units every couple of months. If we could sell 12* units it would be a different story. Too many classes rely on astral soul to be reaffixing that often.
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>>183006043
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>>183006439
>mfw retarded people just dumped 200m all atk units for hero instead of waiting for these
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>>183006803
>tfw have 5s Gruezora rear, 5s RIna Arm, and 5s Qliphad leg that was already affixed a long ass time ago before hero was revealed
>people are honestly gonna spend millions 150+ all atk units with fuck all for pp
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>>183005462
this is why you never fucking talk to Hu's
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>>183005921
If this is real then there's no point in wasting my money on affixing this week, I could just save the fodders for that.

>>183006479
Well, they've been trying to avoid a specific unit set being the king of them all. Saiki was the king and full Austere (orbit leg if you didn't use an austere weapon or preferred the stats) was a contender. If you look at them now; Austere + 12 star leg is the king with a bunch of viable units that no longer have set bonuses, allowing players to mix and match what they want for their playstyle. That unit, if it's a 3 piece set, will throw a bunch of that out the window. Of course, it'll depend on how often it'll drop.

Being able to sell 12 star units would be nice, a lot of people would be able to get rid of units they no longer want / don't have any use for (like Izane for example).
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>>183006210
it is? huh didnt know that
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>>183007210
I'm hoping they add 12* trading in early 2018, that's about the time you would expect they add it. Affix prices are starting to get out of hand, I really hope they aren't holding off on 12* trading in order to get people to buy AC scratches.
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>>183006043
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>>183005921
Nothing in the game requires units this loaded. These are luxury stats. I'm using 120/60/10 blue shine/Izane/Izane and pull 30-40k dps on Deus. I can solo PD S rank effortlessly with my stats. I already spent around 60mil on these affixes and I don't plan to do that again. It takes me over 4 months if I'm lucky to generate that much meseta. Sega needs to stop fucking around and fix their affixing mechanics already. Prices are becoming far too high.
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>>183005921
So why do people think this is real, exactly?
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>>183010432
> These are luxury stats.
> I already spent around 60mil on these affixes and I don't plan to do that again.
If they're luxury stats, why are you complaining? Are they luxury stats you want but can't have?
Your units are already barebones. You don't need to work on anything new because, according to you, it's luxury anyways.
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>>183010432
Which is why you and everyone else will still get and affix them because there's nothing else to do in this game
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>>183010889
At least he still thinks affix prices are becoming too high. The affixes I follow are up 25-100% compared to where they were 6 months ago. This is saying nothing about boosters as well, elegant power could break 100m by the end of the year if they don't revive it soon.
My worst unit set in ep3 was 145/9, it's annoying to even sustain that nowadays with how often 12* upgrades come out.
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>>183011397
Elegant power is reviving this week. They are reviving the elegant and noble scratch for boost week. Still elegant power will probably only lower to 25-30mil at the least.
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>>183012729
It's a start but it still doesn't fix all the other affixes that have ballooned in price. Not even just s-atk ones either.
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>>183012928
They can fix the problem by greatly increasing the chance of getting abilities like modulator and flict to drop and increasing the average number of abilities per drop.
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>>183005921
I could put some numbers next to katakana too. That doesn't mean it'd mean much without saying where this is from.
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>>183011397
isn't this just on ship 2? I always thought ship 2 is the one suffering the most from the people I talk to
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>>183013814
Everywhere is suffering when it comes to elegants, considering they haven't been revived for a very long time.
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>>183013643
But SAFs exist, it's just elegant power and astral/ether fodder being too expensive
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>>183013643
I'd be happy with just 12* unit trading. The biggest problem with the increasing prices is how impractical it is to do good affixes now with the constant 12* upgrades they keep churning out. In ep3 when I was done with a Saiki set I could resell it and usually make a profit. In ep4 I upgrade and now I have a paperweight worth 40-60m per unit.
>>183013814
Affixing prices are similar across ships. Ship 2 AC scratch items usually cost more but even nobles/elegants cost about the same on other ships.
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>>183013954
>Discussing unit affixing
>lol SAFs guys!!!
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>>183012729
>Elegant power is reviving this week.
Source? The official players site doesn't have the scratch contents listed yet.
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>>183014249
they always bring them back for dudu nerf week
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Reminder to by your returner fodder for the hero units you'll definitely NEED.
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>>183015270
>mfw Ill use the basic bitch units im using for Fi and still do better then you
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>>183015270
Nice try, Sega. I'll try dedicated units for each type of attack before I decide if I want to use all weapons.
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How do I cure my affixing allergies? Whenever I think of doing affixing I just break out in hives.
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>>183020238
3s soul/stat/flict on everything.. Easy peasy.
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Where do people even get the meseta to drop multiple hundred million on affixes?
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>Buster Quest - Mining Base 2.0
>Be the fastest and strongest
>My Gurens and Shunkas annihilate all
>MFW
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>>183020989
In the past you could sell certain 11-12* weapons for tens of millions a piece, and they weren't exactly uncommon if you were trying to get them. Now it's pretty much all market manipulation shit or whaling on scratches
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>>183021172
you can't do market manipulation if you're not already rich
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Bluesy Requiem is so fuckin HOT
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>>183021497
Yup. The current state of money making in this game is shit. You either grind for hours to get a relatively small amount of money, or already be rich and put in very little effort to get a shitton.
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>>183021107
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my zondeel and gifoie destroying entire waves of mobs.
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>>183022181
By the time you zondeel and begin to charge gifoie I had already cut them all in half with my GUREN TESSEN.
All you would see is exp numbers as I dash onto the next pack.
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I love how comfy this thread is, despite it not being very active.

Post your Casts
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>>183022752
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>>183022752
>Post your Casts
You are not worthy to set eye on my cast.
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>>183022752
>comfy
???
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Why did they abandon the majority of the cast from ep1-3? They seem to do the same thing when it comes to content too.
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>>182984646
I don't mind the idea of being a regular ARKS guy that just happens to stroll around to kick the badguys asses from time to time, but it would probably be bad if the characters didn't notice everytime you beat the big bad. Though you could argue in canon we 12 man those. It's also questionable in that although you save Matoi you now have a respawning monster killing ARKS by the shiploads everytime you fight it that's basically your fault.

>>182990825
>TFW your favorite characters aren't story relevant and never will be, to make it worse they show up less, some of them not at all.
Matoi was the only character that did anything relevant of the old cast and that was just one scene. The other she just randomly shows up to let Hitsugi have a "big damn hero" moment.

>>183003829
It's shit. None of the characters that ranked well were main characters save for "Earth Zeno" Enga and Xiera which is probably because they didn't get shoved in your face as much as the writers attempt at replacing PC as the protagonist, the crazy bisexual, and "onee-chan" the shota. Though I do question why Phaleg and Mother ranked highly.
Kohri ranked higher than Hitsugi did, so the anon who keeps saying she should've been the main character are probably right, if they removed Hitsugi and made Kohri an insane yandere about the PC instead she probably would've hit the top 3 easily. People love crazy waifus, but since she's not interested in your PC that means most aren't interested either.

You see, Hitsugi has Echo-tier popularity because she's a pointless screentime blackhole with no return for time spent on her, imagine Matoi without payoff.
OH NO HITSUGI GOT STABBED AND IS IN A COMA oh it's just to give her a transformation upgrade that does nothing to make her useful in real combat and all she does with it is killsteal two bosses in cutscenes, one of them the final of the episode after you've already beat the shit out of them, and then the game pretends you didn't beat them up.
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>>183023579
>Though I do question why Phaleg and Mother ranked highly.
The former is basically gettem with tits minus being a manical jackass and mother because MILF memes (though some could say phaleg fits the niche as well)
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>>183023579
>"onee-chan" the shota
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>>183023529
sega treats pso2 as if it's a mobile game
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Episode 5 will have Luther at least, but will he be able to carry the episode if every other new character sucks and is uninteresting?
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>>183025325
I have no experience with mobile games because they're all trash. Could you elaborate for me?
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>>183025671
no.
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>>183025671
>Only returning character is Luther
>Dumb robutt and shitty xion clone only other returners
Ep5 is going to be trash. I remember asking myself if they could do anything worse than ep4 and I have my fucking answer.
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Why the fuck does this cost so much when the other parts are dirt cheap?:
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>>183026060
This is just the beginning. Just wait until Mother returns.
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>>183026060
>Only returning character is Luther
If you ignore all the other returning characters, sure.
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>>183027020
Xiera and Xiao? What did I miss?
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Hotglue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZe0ST3v_HQ
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>>183027073
Gettemhart and (EP0) Melphonsina, also the original PS characters are technically returning from something in the series.
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>sakai will never be this much of a /ourguy/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJJ1JhQ7-jI
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>>183027671
>pso will never have its own section with live test builds to play
>pso will never appear at an E3
>pso will never have something with as much hype as pre-release Stormblood
>pso will never draw a crowd of fans like this
>pso will never come back to the west
>pso will never make a comeback
Just fuck my dreams up
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>>183028240
>wanting a western release
You're retarded.
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>>183028240
sakai/sega are fucking lazy to make big movements for their game, they're in they're comfort zone
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>>183027208
>(EP0) Melphonsina
What?
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>>183028484
their comfort zone*
Also FUCK FFXV, PSO2 is much better in terms of combat and character customization.
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>>183028398
>implying i meant pso2
>implying I don't want a superior portable pso with online ala psp2/psp2i
faggot
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>>183028638
The original Melphonsina, Melrondia's sister. She was mentioned in EP1 and 2 but made her first actual appearance in the EP0 manga.
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If FFXV can be this big, so can PSO2.
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>>183020989
>son of a saudi oil baron tier
RMT
scratching like a damn whale

>working hard tier
having multiple characters, doing dailies, taxqs, and gathering COs

>RNG tier
selling receptor units you get from ES
selling units with valuable affixes you can only get from EQs

You dont really need to drop hundreds of millions on your units nor do you need to have elegant strikes on everything.

50m would enough for a decent 5s satk unit without noble/elegants
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>>183029505
Sega needs to get off their xenophobic asses and do something with it first. Everyone knows that a straight up port of PSO2 to the west will be a gigantic flop so they actually need to make something like PSP2 to get people interested.
Too bad that will never, ever, EVER happen.
Just like a VirtualOn title being released.
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>>183029887
>Xenophobic
I'm gonna go ahead and assume that's not actually why a big corporation decided to not do something.
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>>183029887
Cause PSO1 Blue Burst went over so well.
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>>183005921
>People fell for this
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>>183030074
Did Blue Burst even get a release outside of Japan?
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>>183029887
What if.... hear me out, ok? Just what if... they contact and hire the PSUMod dudes to make a proper translated version of PSO2, upgrade their servers and add international ships for the gaijins.

Pros: You get to play the superior JP version and enjoy the updated content and collab stuff, the past collabs will probably not be revived for you, though. UNLESS people from other ships bring the stuff over expecting to sell them to gaijins for a higher price but you can still get to have the upcoming collabs.

Cons: Ping.
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>>183030074
They didn't know how to work hard and advertise their shit properly, that's why SEGA lost so much potential against its competitors.
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>>183030285
Yes, it did and it flopped hard.
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>>183031204
I guess that means >>183030652 has a point. I literally did not know it existed outside of japan.
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How do you spawn a parallel area?
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>>183032215
same way you spawn a tagami or emperappy.
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>>183032492
Which is?
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>>183032572
you don't, it's pure rng.
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>>183031815
It is very much probably one of the many reasons PSO2 will never come to the US. Also I don't think SEGA JP gives a shit about SEGA US.
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>>183033110
Guess I'll just keep running quests, then.
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Should I feed my pet only s-attack shit like mag? Does dex actually do something for pets?
How do I not fuck this thing up?
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How do you deal with... anything, as ranger?

I just got out of XH Yamato, and both times, without even attacking him, Hagith was on me INSTANTLY, and stuck to me like glue. I couldn't MH through his constant stun orb spam, and any time I'd try to combo sneak shooter->sat cannon I'd barely get past sneak shooter before a stun orb was on me again. Even once the multi-party turned their attention towards Hagith, he never relented, even as the entire fucking multi-party wailed on him; he only focused on me, locking me down for that entire segment.

I've noticed similar issues in the LQs, now that I've gone back to ranger. Even without firing a shot, it's like ranger is hardcoded to get aggro over everyone else. The Ep4 segment of the 1-4 LQ is especially hellish since I'm perpetually stunned, paralyzed, confused, grabbed, or juggled any time I try to make space or fire off a charge shot.

Also, what are the launcher PAs of choice? I was told Divine Launcher Type-0 is good, but charging it up to follow up a gravity bomb seems no better than charging End Attract or Satellite Cannon - that is, it's just not going to fucking happen. The gravity effect expires before the charge is done.
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>>183033635
Anything is fine, they have a cap on all their individual bonus stats and no limit on how much you can feed them. Dex actually does work normally with pets, since they have a very wide attack variance. The only way you can fuck up a pet is to give it expensive but bad candies.
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>>183034079
You use parallel slider type-0 when EA/SC isn't an option. Launcher PAs are Divine type-0, cosmos breaker, sphere eraser, and zero distance. You don't need grav bomb active to use divine, since it has such a massive AoE.
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>>183034234
Ahh, alright. What about the aggro thing? Was it just that we had shit group composition in the multi-party or something?
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I love Patty-chan.And Tea des
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>>183034313
First hit draws aggro in the majority of situations
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>>183034079
You don't need to gravity bomb before Divine Launcher-0. It's good because its AoE is fucking huge. Just point it at the ground and watch everything explode for 100k+.

I get the feeling that the aggro for some of those are client-side, maybe. For those small human bosses, don't bother with charged PAs - they'll probably move out Sat Cannon even if you do get it charged and EA only ticks like once or twice on them. Just plop a WB on them and then circle strafe them with Parallel Slider-0, should be able to juke the stun orbs and such that way.
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>>183034389
Sneak shooter is getting buffed, it might end up a viable DPS option against human-sized enemies.
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>>183034107
whew.
thanks, I guess i can finally use all these eggs without worry.
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The 1-4 LQ is a complete fucking wash in pubs.
>3 level 80's, fi/gu/br
>gu does ~1.5x my damage, ~2.1x more than the fi
>br does less than a fucking AIS (excluding his own)
Literal fucking deadweight. Didn't even make it to the final area before a timeout.
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Wonder what will motivate me now to play PSO2 now that my grinding autism has been sated.
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>>183035368
Go crazy for a 14* drop on boost week. Next week grind hero.
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>>183005921
>unit stats over a month before they're added into the game, even as a pre-load
>literally shits on every unit currently available in terms of stats (ex. resists), with a supposed total of 150 all attack/450hp/45pp+good def values
It's the fakest shit I've seen all year.
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>>183035368
Do it again on a second character.
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>>183035716
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>>183036225
why is youthful face so disgusting
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>>183036558
That's prime face though
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>Discussion as to why Sega won't release NA PSO2
>No one mentions Eternal Christmas
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>>183036915
What is that, anon?
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eternal christmas
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>>183035623
he got the names right before the official stream so theres some credibility
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>>183029887
A new Virtua On game is being released its just shackled to Raildex
http://gematsu.com/2017/03/certain-magical-virtual-announced-ps4-ps-vita
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>>183036950
sega na left the servers in christmas mode for a year and half before pulling the plug i think
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>>183037274
Holy shit, Sega US branch has always been a bunch of fucks up, eh?
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>>183037274
I'm surprised they left that thing running for as long as they did that was like right before Sega NA decided to say fuck everything that's not sonic
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>>183036915
It was shit
but it was our shit ;-;
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>>183037558
The US branch of any MMORPG ever tends to be a bunch of fuck ups, they're useless retards.
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:(|)
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>>183040478
I never could figure out how to do that stomp spam.
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Does anyone know what this says? I'm curious because I
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>>183041681
cumming, pleasure, etc
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>>183041430
Lock>forward>pa>shift>repeat
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>206 crys triggers to run
help
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>>183042405
>skipping eq entirely because I don't give a shit, ignoring the 14 friend requests I've had for a week or more despite having 10 free slots
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>>183042514
good
the less people running the more my shit will be worth
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>>183042017
Sounds hard.
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So I've been focusing on playing a Force with my friends just to kill bosses fast, we have a lot of AoE and grouping so I decided to go Ice/Wind/Light build.

I feel like I'm using the wrong magic, what's the normal for this? I just spam Gibarta for most trash, because even if the damage isnt the best it procs freeze quite often and has a huge area.

On bosses I just basically seven stack Ilbarta, or if they're weak to wind I instead get up close and use Nazan. If my drink fucks me or my cooldowns are off and I can't consistently seven stack Ilbarta I usually just use Ilgrants, unless they're actually weak to ice.

Also is Concentrated or Ice Fang Ilbarta better? only losing 10% power for half cast time seems OP, but at the same time gaining 160% power for 30% cast time....
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>>183045051
>going to pso2g for gameplay advice
I'm so sorry for you.
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>>183045051
Shitter
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>>183045051
Stop playing Force. You'd save yourself a lot of time and effort.
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>>183045161
Not like anywhere else has any information. Go google it, I dare you. 10 months plus old posts. Level cap was still 70 or 75 back then.

>>183046204
Thanks I already knew that, this is why I'm asking for help.

>>183046383
Fuck you I want to spend the time and effort because I don't want to be the fourth fucking braver in a party of four.
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https://youtu.be/NO-5nEH9Vxw
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>>183046562
You're asking for ways a force could kill bosses fast when they're going to lose everything that made them strong against bosses
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>This wasn't episode 5
Maybe episode 6.
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>>183036915
I recall seeing a developer talk with the PSU staff and according to a chart they put up, somehow the Xbox 360 version of the game ended up being the most successful, ironically enough
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>>183046940
You say this like I know the patch already. I do not. I know Techer is getting gutted but nobody has said anything about force.
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>>183037274
>>183037558
>>183037581
Eternal Christmas was "exclusive" to the Xbox version of Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II

US/EU GameCube got marginally better support and a few additional quests, although people at the time didn't exactly expect much of anything from a game post-release

Of course, in Japan there was also the infamous 1.0/1.1 duping fuck up so one could hardly say things were perfect for them either
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>>183029505
pso2 wouldn't get the ffxv audience, it'd get the p5 audience at best

which still might be enough to keep things afloat, but it's still a lower (but probably more realistic) target
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Can someone give me good fo tips for LQ 1-4?
Like what techs should you spam in the first room, with the Vol, and double Dark dragons?
A video of a fo doing solo LQ 1-4 would be nice too if you guys know of any.
Also what's the best way to finish off Hagito in the moon room? I've seen some other Fo just spam ragrants at him. Nazan 0 seems really hard to hit him with.
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What's the easiest tech class to level for hero class requirement?

I'm planning to do te/hu because I don't have t-atk mag
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>>183047737
Just look up lq videos on youtube, i'm sure you will find some good fo gameplay
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>>183047182
If you don't have the compound spells yet you must buy them. They are 80% of the damage you deal as force. They are sold for photon spheres at the shop. If you want to kill bosses quickly with your ice/wind/light build then the only compound spell you should use is barantsion followed by ragrants crafted for cast speed reduction.

You must craft any tech you want to use for it to be good. For certain bosses that are weak to ice ilbarta is fine make sure you charge the 7th cast the others don't matter if they are charged or not. For mobbing spam ilmegid if it's low level and you want to do things quick though with your build this probably won't work because you didn't put points into dark.

In your case for mobbing you want to use zondeel to suck everything on to one spot then ragrants to kill it.

Don't bother with wind techs they are shit unless you are fighting something weak to wind. The other ice techs are also shit.

Tl;dr Pretty much zondeel to suck in mobs then ragrants to kill shit and barantsion and ragrants for eq bossing like Deus and Mother.
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>>183047182
>nobody has said anything about force
Lurk fucking more or go look up the patch notes yourself, people have been talking about how FO is getting butchered for weeks.
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>people that upload videos to youtube have gear worth billions and items impossible to get as of now
>just look up videos on youtube xd
Yeah, i'm sure this shitter will be able to replicate everything they do. At least is better advice than what the other shitters are telling him to do.
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>>183048048
I mean I can't even use the compound techs yet. So ok.

How is Force getting murdered if the entire thing is jut ragrants? The only meme I've seen is Zanverse losing like 8% dmg.
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>>183048331
People telling you to just ragrants are bad forces or never played the class at all.
Zanverse is losing over 80% of its effectiveness in some circumstances too, nowhere near a "8% meme".
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>>183047182
People are talking about the compound spells being given a 2 minute cool down. Compound spells are Forces main source of damage. Compounds are currently able to be casted once you reach a damage threshold of 720k . This allows force to cast multiple compound spells in a short time span which makes them competitive. However In episode 5 this goes away and instead you have to wait 2 minutes for each compound with a shared cooldown between the 3 available compound spells.

For example a geared force may be able to generate 5+ compound spells in a 2 minute time span. This is why people say force is nerfed.
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>>183048472
Well what the fuck are you concerned with? At least get to level 75 before you start getting worried about damage.
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>>183048578
You're retarded.
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>>183048294
Yeah I just looked for myself and there was only 1 livestream of a good fote attempting solo on the first day and it seems pretty fucking painful to do.
But I guess you could zondeel slave and ragrants stuff for barantsion spam.
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>>183023579
>Matoi was the only character that did anything relevant of the old cast and that was just one scene.
Most of the "old cast" never did anything in EP1~3 outside of very few scenes either.

>It's shit. None of the characters that ranked well were main characters save for
Except for Matoi, they almost never are. Look at the previous years. And if Mother isn't a main character, neither is Persona.

You're trying too hard to come up with excuses why the results don't line up with your narrative, focusing on Hitsugi because she's the closest to vindicating your opinion even though she still outranked popular "old" characters

Not to mention willfully ignoring shit like Mother Cluster girls taking six of the top 10 slots

It just doesn't hold up to any real scrutiny, buddy
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>>183048472
>losing over 80% of its effectiveness
Where exactly are you getting this magic number
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>>183048472
>80%
>All that's changing is wind mastery isnt applying to it and some weapon potentials
>when wind mastery 1 and 2 and a 8.8% damage increase

??????
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>>183049087
>>183049127
>I don't know how zanverse classes work
Bo/Te and Gu/Te that can get up to and over 100% are all being gutted to the base 20%.
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>>183049215
>over 100%
I don't think you know how it works either
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>>183048472
>>183048472
Holy shit, you are clueless.
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>>183049248
>>183049257
Okay, pso2g. It's no wonder this place is shat on everywhere else.
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>It's another round of clueless /pso2g/ retards spew utter garbage about game mechanics
Mm yes tell me moar about these 500% zanverse multipliers
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>>183049127
A surprising number of class skills work with Zanverse currently, more than you'd think

Like >>183049215 hinted at but worded rather poorly, both of Bouncer's stances are effective when their conditionals are, Gunner's Perfect Keeper works too. Another good example is both of Summoner's All Attack Bonus skills.

>>183049379
You do realize that every single one of those multipliers is technically "over 100%" even before you put them together, right?
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>>183049379
Now I'm convinced you are just a troll.
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This is why english players deserve to perish.
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>>183049489
I meant over 100% of the attack that's being multiplied, which is what happens with break stance on mother.
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>>183049379
>Break Stance Bo/Te
Come on dude, seriously
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>>183049640
Dual stance Bo/Te is common in fast mother clears.
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>>183049689
Mother is dead content
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>>183049624
>>183049689
If we're talking about Mother, the wind weak multiplier will still take effect at least, so in that particular case it will be more than the base 20%
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>>183049689
>fast mother clears.
Not after they nerf SuGu nonsense
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>>183049814
>>183049949
Doesn't make my statement that 80% of zanverse in it is being squished false.

>>183049831
Do we have info on that? As far as I knew all zanverses are being flattened to 20%.
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All the cheesing cancer is getting trashed soon.
Why are you faggots arguing over something with no value? Play a real mens class that requires actual skill.
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>>183050035
They said Zanverse would "no longer be affected by skills and potentials"

Basic enemy elemental weakness is not tied to any skill or potential. That means it will still be more effective than normal on Mother and DF Loser. And also on the opposite side, it will also continue to be utterly worthless against DF Elder and DE Gracia's ludicrously high wind resistance.
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>>183050035
Who cares about zanverse anyway. My team has no techer or force and we still down Deus in under 10 minutes. Your acting like zanverse is some kind of mairicle spell. At the most of the techer is good you get 8mil damage out of it and shorten your run by a minute.
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>>183005921
>mfw will affix 3 sets of units after maint
not even mad if this is true because even if this is true i doubt i could get them to actually drop
also are there not supposed to be white versions or something as well?
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>>183050189
So I guess weak drink will still work on wind weak enemies too.

>>183050241
>Your acting
>mairicle spell
>doesn't know the true power of zanverse or techer
You are why people make fun of pso2g.
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>>183049215
>talking about force
>WELL YOU SEE ZANVERSE IS GETTING GUTTED CUZ COMPLETELY UNRELATED CLASSES LIKE THIS AND THIS

Please think before you post.
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>>183050359
>So I guess weak drink will still work on wind weak enemies too.
Possibly. It is neither a skill or potential. On the other hand, the bonus it gives is still a separate thing from an enemy's baked-in weakness/resistances so there's a distinct possibility it may not.
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>>183050503
>shitter says zanverse is getting a meme 8% buff
>gets proven wrong
>I-i didn't ask! Stop proving me wrong!
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>>183050763
>buff
nerf.
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Will the triboost replace the LQ triboost or will they stack?
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>>183051586
stack, but it's a matter of "which" boost we get. do we continue to get the 125% we have currently, or do we upgrade to the 175% of level 5 extra boost?
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>>183050763
>shitter clearly said that how is force getting murdered cuz of zanverse nerfs when it's barely an 8.8% increase for forces with 20 skill points invested into wind mastery
>You go off on a triad about how your special babby class that isn't force is nerfed by zanverse nerfs
>shitter points out that you're a retard and unable to read
>you move the goal posts yet again
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>>183022024
Even this has gotten bad. I used to do this and hover around 600m but i can't resupply by selling unit sets any more so I've been hemorrhaging money. You need to be a billionaire to really do this any more while still being able to actually use your money.
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>>183022024
sounds like reality and every other game
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>>183053263
While this is true, it's especially bad in pso2 because there's really no entry point for poorer players. Grinding in this game is hiliarously ineffective without also getting lucky and consistent ways of making money are pitifully low return.
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>>183050189
>DE Gracia's ludicrously high wind resistance.
He has no wind resistance, that's not how it works. Gracia halves all damage dealt to him, including halving what zanverse spits out. Meaning it's half of the 20% of the half you do.
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>>183022024
>you either grind for hours to get a relatively small amount of money
Care to explain what the fuck you're talking about?

Last I checked, you actually exert effort for short amounts of time then go afk
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HELP ME MAKE UP MY MIND, RANGER OR BRAVER
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>>183054691
>exclusively makes money by doing eqs
You're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about
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>>183054773
BR
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>>183054813
Thats why I'm asking?

Are you fucking daft?
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>>183054857
thanks!
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>>183054898
If you're being genuine don't come screaming at someone like "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT" next time.
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>>183054951
>intentionally ignoring the "care to explain" part
>typed it in upper case, despite the original post not doing so
Yes, you're retarded.

Now explain what he's talking about
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>>183055060
You're being a cunt so no
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>>183055085
>says the guy trying to be an internet police while spectacularly failing to do so
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Do you save or lose money by using emper fodder?
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>>183056032
save
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>expert blocks got implemented and are going away
>pso2g won't have ever stepped into one
Can't make this shit up.
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>>183056032
It's slightly cheaper than using +4/5 dio fodder.
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>>183056436
we already did, we had multiple mpas there
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>>183056436
You just did though
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My wife Xiera is cute
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>>183058361
Her chin is dangerously pointy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbILZE3bOZs
>this brazilian br/bo can clear H&H
>/pso2g/ can't
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>>183034358
I only like Patty
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>>183059824
>heaven and hell
You can clear that with a wand whacking tehu, same for solo xq 2 6-10.
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>>183059824
>literally inferior to subhumans
Can't make this shit up.
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>>183059824
they smart, they friendly, they loyal THEY ARE FROM BRAZIL
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Yamato sure has trivialized 13* drops. I get one in half of my runs, even got two at a time once.
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Do I need to level up my characters to get the reset passes?
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>>183061816
No. All your characters will get one skill reset pass regardless of their level.
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>>183045051
Quite late but, you don't want to use ilgrants for DPS. Concentrated ragrants is your best bet for that. Ice Fang ilbarta is the better craft, no question. You can do the first 5-6 casts of ilbarta uncharged, then charge the last 1-2 casts.
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>>183061935
wait so is the pass character bound
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>>183063713
Nope. You can share the passes among your characters.
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>>183063713
You get 1 per characters you can trade around. Generally no items are character bound, just throw them in storage and take them out on the character you want. It's recommended you make 3 characters even if you only plan to use one and this is one of the reasons why.
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>>183061763
I got three in one run once. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of it has to do with the additional Vegas enemies all bringing the 13* in their drop table with them. I don't think they removed too much that was already there, so that means there are more opportunities now for one to drop?
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So how do you survive 1-4's final stretch without Hu sub?
Everything is fine right up until Mother and the boss rush where there are so many interrupts and stuns that being melee range you're almost guaranteed to be put in a touch of death combo. I can't see how you'd be able to do anything without automate
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>Automated Halfline
>Still dies twice outside of the AIS part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PeWnWmeh7M
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>>183066613
You're probably right. The two times that I got three 13*s in one run were both runs with a rare optimus spawn.
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>>183066918
At Knight Gear ripoff it should still be reasonably easy just watch out of the stun balls and I think one of the hammer attacks in unblockable. The worst part is probably the constant damage aura.

At Phaleg + Kori + Ophiel part just watch out for Ophiel since his cubes are unblockable. Other than that try not aggroing everything if you're with other players.

At Mother part just make sure you don't aggro Maza and then go throw yourself at the other bosses. She is actually the one you should watch out the most since she hits pretty hard and isn't as predictable as Decol machine gun.

Hunar part is reasonably easy. Just watch for some nuke abilities like Elder's slam or Angel's icicle rain.
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>>183067497
>Knight Gear ripoff
???
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>>183070343
Mustache old man
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>>183067497
knight gear ripoff is a cunt because you have to break his axe/club/whatever first, and unless he does a specific action he flails it around like a madman making it really hard to fucking destroy.

Next 3 is a cunt because if nobody takes care of the centaurs you'll get zondeeled/panic'd etc, and then cubed while you're at it for good measure. Fareg has no elemental weakness, and

Mama is a piece of cake, just be sure to dodge her strong move.

Hunars aren't too bad, but take care of dio hunar asap because its is the most likely to fuck you over due to its zondeel/laser rain.

>>183070343
Aratron fempt is basically a golden knightgear clone.
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>>183070403
>>183070478
Oh, I guess they do probably have the same base skeleton

Their patterns are pretty different from one another though
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>there's a skill for changing jet boots from t-attack to s-attack
>there's no skill for changing duel blades from s-attack to t-attack
what the fuck sega
Force is going into the shitter, Techers going to the gallows and Bouncer is a one weapon class with a stunning 4 photon arts and negative 0 damage per second.
Why the fuck is my only alternative summoner just because I have a t-attack mag?
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>>183071103
Well there is one other alternative: you could just kill yourself.
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>>183071103
That's what you get for being a t-atk beta, play a real class for once.
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>>183071103
I am pretty sure SGNM had just his episode blocked by whatever reason. There is no other explanation as to why Bouncer had like no PAs compared to Summoner drowning in pets. Also Cmode 2 cut down to only 5 missions and no new ultimate fields until the abomination of ult amd.

Siphoning funds for anime or what?
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>>183071103
:3
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>>183071362
The concept for Jet Boots predates the game's release, it just took them three years to bring it to the game.

Not everything is some dumb conspiracy. The development team is more than just the episode director, EP5's director worked directly under Sugunuma's supervision on EP3's balance changes.
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>>183071362
Still doesn't make sense as to why they wouldn't even attempt to fix it.
I uninstalled the game around when ep3 was just coming out which was like two or so years ago? But was Bouncer this bad right from the beginning? Did they seriously shit out a class that was supposedly a support and melee hybrid yet make it fucking unusable unless your full melee?
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>>183071103
>there's a skill for changing jet boots from t-attack to s-attack
>there's no skill for changing duel blades from s-attack to t-attack what the fuck sega

adding to that

>BO has enough skillpoints for both weapons to be viable
>BR can be viable with both weapons but not enough skillpoints

godly design
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>>183071362
It's probably because every JB PA has a special weapon action after them except for vinto. Sega probably went "Well it's like 10 PAs of you count those so that's fine"
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>>183071854
>Melee Bo
>useable
It's preferable to JB but still the worst class
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>>183071843
Then how could the fuck up an idea they had so much time to perfect and then leave it like that for more then a year?
Does no-one on the team even play the game they work on? Do they legitimately think its fun to play a class with literally one weapon and two to three good PA's like Ranger, Bouncer or Techer?
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>>183072340
That's why I say unusable, Jet Boots Bo is so fucking slow killing things that your better off leveling literally ANY other class.
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>>183072106
>hero mag
>ALL ATTACK STATS MAXED for 1 SP

>braver mag
>50% of DEX stat LOL!

HEHE
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>>183071362
Episode 3 was pretty experimental overall. Maybe too experimental because an extended amount of time had to be put into correcting things that they admittedly fucked up, like the constant tweaking to Magatsu and the Anga farming that arose from the completely boneheaded decision to make 13* flagrantly superior to anything else and put them all into a single enemy.

Episode 4 did introduce some new systems but I can't really think of anything that was as disastrous. Maybe that whole gathering stamina thing? SG made that easier and then later they made it a lot easier to get SG.
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>>183072952
Anga farming was barely disastrous as it was still for most part normal Ult until you gather enough enemy kills and then Anga. Also in spite of what people say there were still plenty of normal runs.

Magatsu was mostly a problem because of chain working with banish and retarded burst classes shitting up the market with tons of excubes.

I am surprised you didn't mention Gunner though.

As it stand EP4 is even more experimental. They put collection files everywhere that make most 13* into time limited offer, new Free Field format with too much running. Yamato that was shitty enough to be remade. Riding Quests nobody bothers with that were also unbalanced shit. Rings and SG. There is a Summoner that doesn't fit into the game or the entire story line.

They also made almost everything into set spawns type of deal going away from the usual deal you had in previous episodes.
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>>183072927
not even 1sp, it's a default skill. They really should change braver/bouncer mag to be the same: 100% of both attacks, no sp investment required.
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>>183072705
>Then how could the fuck up an idea they had so much time to perfect and then leave it like that for more then a year?
More boot PAs would be great, but I think you're overstating the importance of quantity
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>>183073558
sorry, have craft mastery instead
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>>183073671
Its not even just the PA's. The skills, the rainbow pallet bullshit, the fucking braver mag being literally wothless, elemental stance. Theres a shitload of stuff wrong with bouncer, PA's are just one of the many.
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>>183074170
what the hell is this
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>>183074345
Goldfish platform shoes, but for your mouse.
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>>183073534
>Anga farming was barely disastrous
Having one boss that only spawns randomly in a single quest having all the best weapons in the game was a huge fucking mistake. Don't even try to paint that any other way.

>Magatsu was mostly a problem
No, that was only one problem. The original problem is that he didn't drop shit and was deemed not even worth running in the first place. They had to fix that first, and when they did that's when the Excube thing became a problem, so they had to fix that eventually too.

All of that eats up dev time that could have been spent on something else.

>As it stand EP4 is even more experimental
Maybe but

>collection files
Were adapted from the Matter Board drop system

>new free field format
Free fields always have some kind of gimmick. Urban had turrets, tunnels had mechanical traps, etc. Tokyo/Vegas' are movement based but that's not even that unique, jump pads were a thing way back in EP1

>Yamato that was shitty enough to remade
You're either a big fucking idiot or just trolling with this one
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>>183073534
Anga farming was quite literally one of the lowest points in the game, dude. Also no, there were not normal runs. I dunno what game you were playing but it was anga farm or nothing in early EP3.
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>>183074007
>craft mastery
>a skill they literally made useless in the latter half of the episode that bouncer was introduced in
was a blunder.

>>183074605
Prior to the introduction of ult nab/anga farming, there was a good balance of things, but after it was added it did a fucking huge number on the game.
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>>183074170
For boots specifically? I didn't say Bouncer was from before the game came out, I said boots specifically were.

And spoilers, every class has a shitload of useless shit that got carried over even after the EP3 overhaul
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>>183074605
>he original problem is that he didn't drop shit and was deemed not even worth running in the first place.
That's the problem of a lot of EP4 content and content overall. The only big problem was excube deal. It eats up barely any dev time. It's not animating enemies, making AI patters and hitboxes for them, then balancing all of that. It's tweaking values.
>Were adapted from the Matter Board drop system
That doesn't change anything just because CFs are kinda maybe like MB.
>Free fields always have some kind of gimmick
Gimmicks that don't change how the entire field flows. All the previous fields just had you go from square to square looking for enemies. Vegas for example isn't even randomly generated and has you ride from map market to map marker with nothing between.
>You're either a big fucking idiot or just trolling with this one
Yamato is a shitty fight that is somehow the EP4's trailer fight. It's a corridor of monsters that isn't even fun to play through and then AIS part that was a faceroll before rebalance. Not much better now.
>>183074891
Delusional
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>>183054773
Why not BOth?
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>>183075050
>Delusional
What? Do you have any actual argument against what I said?
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>>183075245
What fucking argument do I need to stop you from spewing bullshit. There were plenty of normal runs of Ultimate Naberius even during Anga farming. They released Lilipa with worthless 13* for most of the classes in the game and everyone was running it mostly normally too.
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>install pso2es
>pick my character
>randomly assigns me BO
>tutorial gives me a level
>now I have a BO level
why would they ruin my account like this?
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>>183075681
upvoted
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>>183075681
it's not random. it used to let you pick a class, now it forces bo upon you 100% of the time. serves you right for playing es.
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>>183075041
Nothing is remotely as bad as elemental stance
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>>183075050
>It's tweaking values.
Values they didn't have to fix or tweak if they just did it right in the first place.

>That doesn't change anything
Sort of. People were just sick of stones. CFs are basically the same thing without them.

>That's the problem of a lot of EP4 content and content overall.
The first half parts were mostly focused on providing catch-up gear to newer players, sure. But I'd hardly characterize that as "overall", it was around late summer last year that stuff that outclassed or came close to Austere started appearing.

>Yamato
1. How fun or easy it is has nothing to do with how "experimental" it is
2. They have been reworking raid bosses since literally Episode 1
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>>183073534
>still for most part normal Ult

more like for the lesser part

1) spawn into map, Anga pops up
2) put "O" in party name
3) run around the map collecting 250 points or so before killing Anga

during this time, NO OTHER BOSSES could show up while collecting points for Anga because they nerfed the ever-living shit out of the initial Ultimate experience and we all know bosses were the larger part of Ultimate

if there were any normal runs from start to finish, it would have happened on another ship or some lowbie block
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>>183076469
>Values they didn't have to fix or tweak if they just did it right in the first place.
Not much of devtime loss either way.
>Sort of. People were just sick of stones. CFs are basically the same thing without them.
Wrong. CFs are time gated while stones still have all the exchanges available.
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>>183076469
>People were just sick of stones. CFs are basically the same thing without them.
Until they introduced new stones that are basically required to make your CF weapons not shit. So now we have the worst of both worlds.
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>>183077172
The fact that non seasonal CFs are time gated is a fucking stupid thing. I'd regularly run solo PD triggers for ray files (especially since I've finished all my deus files and just need fuses now), but noooooooo, not allowed to have ray files on permanent rotation even though they're average weapons only really useful for the factor.
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When are they going to add 14s to/and more ultimate areas with usual awesome bosses? I'm sick and tired of logging in for recycled scheduled content and logging right out because everything else isn't fun or worth spending time on.
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>>183078702
>only really useful for the factor
That's the whole point. They use SAFs to keep the more hardcore people playing. No one this deep is stupid enough to farm solely for 14* and we don't need the weapons for upgrades so they tempt us with SAFs. That's why Yamato sheets give stat VI
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>>183077172
>Not much of devtime loss either way
Maybe, but it's interesting to note that the Magatsu "rework" came much sooner than any raid boss that came before or after it, and it wasn't even that significant an overhaul mechanically. Throwing together the A.I.S. battle for it after almost seemed like an apology.

>Wrong. CFs are time gated while stone
weapons are almost completely irrelevant now. Time caught up to them, too.

>>183077180
Zeinesis weapons aren't shit even with the party pot.

And Aether Fuses aren't even hard to come by. It's not even remotely close to the Austere grind. There's a fairly high chance you already had the base weapons before the files were revived, too.
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>>183078907
I bet you're one of those guys who chimes in whenever they actually do release an Ultimate Quest to say "lol lazy palette swapped enemies with 200% speed"
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>>183078702
Not keeping all the cfiles available is fucking retarded, it would breath more life into the game.
Ray files would make people want to get more badges for solo triggers.
Gix would make ult alive again helping the newer players get that arm unit, etc
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>>183079985
I dunno about him but I am that guy that chimes in and says it's a shitty TA and not actual free exploration.
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>>183080093
Wouldn't be surprised if it was actually the opposite. When the deadline approaches people get desperate and start buying triggers and resets more.
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>>183080198
It's not an actual free exploration unless you can run past all the enemies and fight the boss in area 3
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>>183080348
But Harukotan is free exploration.
What about fighting the boss in area 2
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>>183079985
I've never seen anyone say that but I love ultimate lilipa and amd
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>>183080218
Love needing to spend SG to get resets for rainbow pallettes
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>>183080516
The only element you should bother with that for is light

Anything else except for maybe fire for the upcoming BQ boss is probably fringe trash that'd go down in seconds to a 30 element ares anyway
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>>183080857
I love how people say this every time rainbow is mentioned as if UQs that aren't light weak don't exist, as if LQs with lots of different elemental weaknesses exist, as if no one ever plays by themselves in places that aren't light weak, etc. Sorry, I forgot I deserve to just be weaker than every other class if I don't rainbow for things that aren't boss EQs. At least LQs you could just argue you could get carried but 1~4 isn't brain dead and you need to be the carry, not get carried.
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I know your not suppose to be doing ults alone but fucking hell. Why does everything have so much fucking hp? What kind of gear would someone even need to deal with these things normally?
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>>183081342
>ragrants spamming
A great example of someone who fell for the "you only need light" meme. Get a fucking lightning weapon.
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>>183081589
I would consider it if anyone was running these. Every ultimate quest is a ghost town on my ship.
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>>183081342
Stop trying to solo things as force if you don't have the skill tree/gear for it. Actually, just stop trying to solo things with force period because their solo power is getting destroyed in ep5.
>>183081589
I can't believe it still works as if people can't see what Ragrants damage is like off element and compare it to what other classes can do.
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>>183081342
>>183081879
Oh you're doing it as wand techer, even worse. You NEED rainbow wands to play Te/Hu, there's no way to get around it. Element change ring is a crutch that loses a ton of damage compared to rainbow because of how often you have to reset element.
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What are the best mag devices to use? Auto actions seem to be bad in general and it seems everyone just use the heal triggers.
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>>183081342
you aren't ready
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>>183081879
I only specd in light because it was part of the ice compound tech.
If the wind/lightning compound didn't suck ass I would put some points into lightning.
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>>183080474
>Lilipa
Logging in and being able to join ongoing mpas without waiting for people to join up on the teleporter and starting in the middle of a zeta gurans fight was so good, just action right away.
Getting 13 was a lot more satisfying too.
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>>183081342
Doing good with that PP my boy
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>>183082110
All HP Restore A with maybe one Invincible A is the popular setup. Some classes might consider using PP restore ones, mainly PP Restore J since you can control it by leaving your mag at 0% and then feeding when you want a proc.
>>183082232
You're encountering why people complain about rainbow elemental reliance now. If you don't get a lightning weapon and get lightning mastery there's no point. Just switch classes
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>>183081342
They are HPd for 12players, also solo is not that hard either, you just need to have good gear and know how to play.
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>>183082407
I don't even have 12* units yet, nor do I know anything about affixing so I figured id just wait until I did.
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>>183005921
>People actually went ahead and spent over 150m to make hero units out of qliphads and other BTFOd units
I laff
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>>183005921
>people aren't one bit skeptical about this
remember sonic fever?
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>>183026134
Because they are tickets and thus consumable and not re-sellable.
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>>183084086
Except for the fact that the poster didn't datamine it
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>>183037176
what are the chances of there being more leaked confidential info regarding upcoming weapons?
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>>183084354
I don't see any source.
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>>183084649
>>183037176
See above. Personally I hope it's not real because I'm crippled if I need to affix a new set without being able to sell any of my old ones thanks to no 12* trading.
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>>183084354
All that's saying to me is that he pulled the numbers out of his ass.
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>>183085001
Denial is the first phase, my friend.
I feel sorry for your loss.
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>>183084801
Not those anons but dont they seem a bit overbudgeted in general?
also if they have shit tier drop rate is it really worth waiting for them to even drop?
t.someone that did mom over 350 times and got no units to show for
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>>183085259
Notice how no Forces are whining about it? That tells you a lot about how much better they are compared to stinky melee players.
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>>183085138
I'd rather be skeptical about something and be pleasantly surprised when it's true, than believing in something, that has literally no source at all, and be massively disappointed when it's not.

As long as there's no source, it's bullshit.
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>>183085417
Can you please stop bringing musk into everything?
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>>183085340
That just means sega doesn't want you in their game and that you should consider suicide.
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>>183085498
You've been told multiple times what the source is, the guy posting the alleged stats knew what the unit set was called before they were announced.
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>>183085645
Really? That's the source? The fact that he knows the names? Are you retarded?
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>>183085340
You simply are not worthy
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>>183085742
Are you retarded?
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>>183085742
Yeah oops I guess he doesn't know anything and just guessed what the exact name of the new units would be before it was even revealed there would be a new unit set at all.
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>>183085417
>no Forces are whining about it
>less than 20 posts ago multiple people were whining about it
Just switch to a real class already
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>>183085742
T. Retarded person who wasted all his money on btfod hero units
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Has sega ever nerfed a weapon or unit?
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>>183086205
Guld Milla
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Are they ever going to remove the fucking useless garbage from the featured quest rewards?
>candy that drops like fucking candy everywhere else
>weapon extension materials that have been irrelevant for years at this point
>fucking 3000 EXP ticket
>a single mag food device
>a single extreme pass
>a single casino pass
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>>183086689
Word
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>>183086292
they didnt nerf the weapon, just its potential.
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>>183086002
>>183085931
Are the names officially announced? No? Then that's no proof of legitimacy. Yes? Are they the same? Then possible, but still not concrete proof.
Any random schmuck can think of silly names for any unit and stats for them if they're autistic enough.
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>>183086973
So they did nerf the weapon, ok
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>>183086689
>>candy that drops like fucking candy
What's the problem, exactly?
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>>183087032
>Yes? Are they the same? Then possible
That's what we've been telling you for 5 posts
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>>183086689
>rare drop!
>a fucking special egg
At least weapons are useful as mag food
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>>183087195
Then I need source they're the same.
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>>183086163
>whining about it
All I see are people informing someone else of the changes without a negative viewpoint on the matter, stinker!
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>>183087301
go away musk obsessed wb slave
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Is it worth playing GU/RA anymore or is it completely outclassed by GU/HU?
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>>183087301
No wonder you picked a shitty class, you're functionally blind
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>>183088056
outclassed by GU/HU
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>Sega introduces 12* units, unique ability: can be slotted with L rings
>12* units are scarce as fuck, lower stats as 11*, makes it bittersweet to affix one to feel weaker or same-ish as before
>people eventually accept it and begin affixing their 12* units
>SEGA retroactively allows 11* and below unit crafting stats similar to 12* and ring infusing ability
>new crafts allow you to have either 200 HP, 20PP or 100HP 10PP

how likely is this possible?
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>>183088885
Yes please would use saiki till ep6
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>>183088885
I'd rather not. Unit set bonuses were a mistake.
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>>183088885
You have to consider the massive cost it takes to upgrade to 12*. When you were done with a Saiki set you could sell it. Want to drop 120m on a set? No problem, just sell it for even more than it cost to make it when you're done. Want to drop 120m on a 12* set? I hope you plan on using it for most of the year, that money is all gone. Your suggestion would completely destroy any reason to take that risk with 12*.
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Any scratch preview yet?
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>>183089894
Those dont usually go up until 30minutes before maint ends
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>>183089894
atelier is finally up anon!
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>>183090642
>atelier
no thanks
es costumes when
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>>183090953
>shitty slut outfit for a chip that isn't even meta anymore
No thanks.
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Any way to buy weapons in Es? I ran out of the railedges I hoarded to feed my mag at work
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Will you still love Io after the nerf?
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>>183093524
plop plop, senpai
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>>183093524
Literally plop.
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>>183093524
She doesn't deserve love just like bow doesn't.
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>(7/19)
>Lambda Grinder (x30)
>Photon Sphere (x30)
>+40% Affixing Success (x1)
oh baby
what is the requisite for getting these?
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>>183093524
She's OKAY.
And what >>183093642 and >>183093642 said.
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why all japs have short characters?
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>>183095185
Because short characters are cute.
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>>183095306
we can be whatever we want, short pride begins now
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>>183093524
why should i care about this autistic girl
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>new class for ep5
>hero is just guren with a ffxiv limit break
>not deleting summoners pets for better ones
>no new PAs or customs
>no nothing
come the fuck on
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>>183095947
i'll give you one (You) but that's it
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>>183096060
that's 2 though
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not anymore
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this guy is cute but goddamn Fo is terrible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5G1F-PEBII
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Is it impossible to create a unit timed ability for Earth beyond level 1?
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>>183097601
Just request it from someone.
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>>183097601
you need to update data drive for earth1 multiple times to unlock earth2 a then do the same for earth3, look into crafting achievments tab. just find a crafter through visiphone who already can do it
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>>183096473
To be fair, this is solo. Force historically has been garbage solo and only became good with the advent of compounds. Ep5 is going to send them back to being garbage solo classes
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Do we know if they changed the numbers on the element mastery skills for FO, or are they halving the SP needed? The latter is fucking pointless.
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>>183100050
>The latter is fucking pointless.
Guess.
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>>183100050
They're reducing the number of points needed for the Fo and Te element mastery 2 skills to 5. element mastery 1 is staying the same.
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>>183100563
Does this eliminate the need to buy extra FO trees?
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>>183100309
>>183100563
oh boy, 5 more points into photon flare, thanks sega
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>>183075457
No, there were very few if any normal runs of Ult Nab at the peak of Anga farming. Ult Lili killed off Anga farming for good outside of organized groups, which is why everyone ran it normally.
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>guard stance poison
>guard stance burn
Wow, two status effects that do literally nothing that I'd actually prefer to have on me just so I can proc crazy beat and crazy heart.

Why don't they replace these with a skill that resists panic, which is ACTUALLY a problem especially since literally the last 3 raid bosses all give you panic.
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>>183100881
or you could just use a timed ability for resist panic.
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>>183100723
You could do this, if you really don't want to buy extra Fo/Te trees http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11uAbCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIo0jdodBIb000000000doIn0000000jdoib0000000fdo0000000dBbsfHn2SGBIklkqnIkdFIb000007oInIhcKjGAqBIkcKHNbn000000IbIo0000000jdoIb0000000jdB0000000
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>>183100881
how about stun, the most common asshole effect being used?

Deus can triple stun you if you're close to that attack and no way to void it unless dodging or far away

>inb4 getting hit
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>>183101496
>Not Ignite Parrying it
Casul
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>>183100723
Short answer: no
Medium answer: Only if you don't mind being bad in both elements. You can't get Bolt Save or Flame S Charge in a 2 element hybrid tree so you're better off not even casting them at that point. All the change really did was give you more points for photon flare and rod shoot
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>>183081235
I'm not saying you shouldn't bother to fill out the rest of your palette. All I'm saying you just don't necessarily need a Qliphad of every element for every conceivable scenario

I'm just saying no one reasonable is going to flip their shit when you whip out a Grisha Talis or something when you're on Earth or an +33 Ice Ray Wand on Bal Rodos or Diabo. As long as it's properly grinded and affixed you'll still be pulling your weight.
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>>183101496
That attack is beyond easy to see coming and can be negating by moving at all. If you get hit by it it's your fault.
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>>183101496
Massive hunter should protect you from stun. There's no fucking reason it shouldn't.
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新ユニ登場早すぎてもうユニ頑張って作ろうって気が起きない アストラ作る→ゼイネ/クリファド来て萎える→モチベなくした今の自分 運営さんや…サイキ、オフゼくらいのサイクルじゃないと 萎えてしまうし、ユーザーは支援スク回そうとも OP頑張ろうとも思わなくなりますよ #PSO2要望
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>>183100723
>>183101365
Oops, forgot a kind of important part. This is the right one http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11uAbCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIo0jdodBIb000000000doIn0000000jdoib0000000fdo0000000dBbsiN2SGBIklkqncKdFIb000007oInIhcKjGAqBIkcKHNbn000000IbIo0000000jdoIb0000000jdB0000000

>>183101691
>You can't get Bolt Save or Flame S Charge in a 2 element hybrid tree
Yes you can.
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>>183101718
Except besides negating the already massive amount of cheese that happens in the game. Even EP2 was better in how it didn't devolve into tanking through everything while delivering your best damage move.
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>>183101706
Oh yeah for sure, I wasn't implying Qliphad for every weapon or anything either. We probably both agree, I just came off too argumentative because I'm used to people in this thread saying "Just get light and stop." My Force rainbow right now is made up of Qliphad/Zeinesis/Fornis/Union/Astra. It's just really obnoxious not being able to get more than two of a weapon per CF sometimes when other classes finish all of their weapons in a single cycle.
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>>183101718
Sounds great, Fighter would get to ignore nearly everything in the game and just tank with Fornis.
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>>183101858
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>>183103408
Why do people always ignore the fact that Hero Time Finish will have the same cooldown?
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I will enjoy teabagging downed FIs so much when Limit Break finally becomes 1 HP in second rebalancing wave
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>>183103692
stay mad forceshitter
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>>183103778
t. musk lover
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>>183103609
Because Hero will have a lot of great PAs that cost jack shit, that guren and shunka attack alone are already safe bets that you will probably not even feel the need to Hero Finish unless you need overkill something.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO-5nEH9Vxw
@3:58 you can see it does decent damage and has huge range for a non drink/team buff/shifta'd attack
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>250% rdr ticket
>125% triboost
>50% daily boost
>50% koltova juice
>50% pudding roll
>50% donuts
>50% EX booster
>15% unit installs
>10% team boost
>20% umbrla stick
>200% boost week bonus
=870% rdr bonus
Is this the maximum I can stack without going full whale for 300% rdr and 150% triboosts? I want 1000%
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>>183104253
You forgot the attack hit a weakpoint and the guy is using 14*
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3 keys in one day what are the odds?
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>>183104374
What about 40% party?
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>>183104374
>>50% EX booster
Unless you're always spamming the SG scratch there's no reliable way to get a lot of these. You're better off using your SG to just more triggers.
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>>183104449
DAMN, HERO IS SHIT.
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>>183097601
To get the next level you need to update the data for the previous ability 10 times. So update earth 1 10 times earth 2 10 times then 3 will unlock itself through the achievement.

It is cancerous honestly. Crafting needs a major overhaul.
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>>183104374
>50% pudding roll
>50% donuts
Can you use these at the same time?
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>>183104374
Your odds at 14* are still sub 1% with all of that just as a heads up
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>>183104374
The boost week RDR bonus is 150%, unless you mean post-Yamato, which would bring it up to 250% for 30 minutes.
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>>183104468
That would be 910, with lucky rise units, 925%, with concert, 935%.
I guess the only real way to reach 1000% on the eqs is with 300% rdr and 150% triboost.

>>183104879
Yes. I bought about 40 of the spf items because I know boost week will make them spike in prices, same with koltova juice, it reached 7m on last boost week.

>>183105129
This image says 200%
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>>183105326
Is it not additive like the last one which was 150% RDR boost + 100% extra RDR in boss EQs?
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>>183104872
it's under preparation and will be operational within six months
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>>183103692
>sega
>ever balancing things that they fuck up
If Bo can remain the same for years then you should only expect the worst
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>>183105820
I don't know, if it stacks then it's an easy 1000%.
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>>183105326
The EQ RDR boost happens in August.
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>>183105820
The EQ boss and general boost weeks are happening at different times.
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>>183106632
That's too bad, though I'm glad I found out before I spent SG on triggers. Thanks
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>>183101858
>complaining about something that happens everytime we increase a star in rarity

nothing to see here
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Reminder that rdr past 250% is a placebo.
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>>183107975
and is for cfile
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>>183107975
>even using an rdr
LMAO
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Let's try to predict what'll happen with the Yamato rematch.
>quest fails immediately if you can't destroy all the missiles in time
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>>183108295
You still won't get a 14*
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>>183108295
>if your AIS dies in the quest you die in real life
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>>183108295
If you fail, you get banned from mounting AIS again.
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stinky thread
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Im going to play Jet Boots Bo and assist a tmpa.
Wish me luck.
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So mags are the gameplay reason for having more than one character right? I put 1 ratck into my mag but now im playing braver rip.
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>>183119275
50 excubes will fix that
2 or three points into a stat you don't want isn't that bad. Its when your like at like 30-40 levels is when you remake or accept your shitty mag.
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>Br/Hu has free automated halfline with Bow plus combat escape with Katana
>Hu/Fi has automated halfline that's useful for every weapon besides Sword
>Fi/Hu has Fornis tanking and automated halfline for absolute madmen but you still want to play clean for most part
>Ra/Hu has automated halfline and is supposed to tank through everything in massive
>Gu/Hu has automated halfline and massive hunter not to break chain
>Summoner and all of its subs don't even have to JA and get free resta healing
>Fo/Te has free resta/megiverse and gets to stay at a distance with mirage step
>Bo/Hu has automated halfline and megiverse/resta
>Te/X is support bitch
Wow Look the class that doesn't necessarily devolve into smacking your face against the enemy while mashing your best PA does the best damage. Something must be wrong with it, right?
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>>183120941
(You)
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>>183120941
>>183121301
(You)
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>>183093524
Lottie is better.
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>want to use Kohri's voice for my crazy character
>she keeps saying "Hitsugi-chan" again and again
Nooo, how can I roleplay like this, Sega?
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>>183124348
I wish ep4 never existed.
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>>183124348
play stupid games win stupid prizes
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>>183120941
Yeah but Gu loses half its damage if it gets hit within a 60 second interval
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>>183124964
Why did you give the most obvious bait a serious reply fuck off
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>>183125059
It's more interesting than most other stuff in this thread, bait or not
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>>183124964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xvm7QuzkZA
>skip to PD
>tanking through hits like it's nothing
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>>183125629
That's slower than every class except Bo and Te
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>>183125909
That's the fastest Gu time and people want Fighter to do the same damage as classes that just need to take a few skills to be invincible.
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I wish stinky fighters would fuck off.
You're making the thread unpleasant, like you make the game unpleasant.
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>>183126310
Quit the game already, we will rule ep5.
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That's right, just give up and accept my hugs you flat newearl.
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>>183126596
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>>183126596
>wanting people to avatarfag their ugly meatbags
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>>183126596
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>>183126648
>>183126691
>>183126931
How do you take screenshots with no ui showing?
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>>183126596
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>>183126596
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>>183126596
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>>183124348
What. Why is that a thing?
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I keep getting conflicting information whether or not every class is good (except bouncer) or awful.

Is Force actually bad? Everything I've seen of good Forces have been fairly great, second to only possibly Fighters.
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>>183126691
cute

>>183126931
thicc
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>>183127085
It's an option in Options>Screenshot settings, iirc
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>>183128910
You can just hold ctrl to do the opposite of your setting
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>>183126596
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>>183128572
Some classes are good everywhere and some are not.
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>>183128572
Once you play every class thoroughly, you will begin to understand and be able to make decisions for yourself.
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>>183128572
Force (for the next one week) is one of the top-tier classes at most content, provided you have a rainbow set of rods & talises (or an EPD) and multiple skill trees. It still struggles a bit when there are a ton of things aggro'd onto you and too many different elemental weaknesses so you can't burn them down quickly enough (ie: 1~4 LQ). The biggest complaint about it is not about power level tends to be the setup requirement and rather static nature of the gameplay.

After next week though? Who the fuck knows. They could still be fine, they could be absolute trash. Bet's on them being hit fairly hard since compound spamming is the current meta and it's getting killed so it'd need to get a lot to compensate.
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>>183126596
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>>183129754
did you beat her
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>>183129867
not yet
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>>183129894
don't give up, i believe
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>>183130053
i do too
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How hard is it to learn to Gunner not garbage?
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>>183130593
do gunners use tps view or normal view with lockon?
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>>183130593
Learn from someone who is a GOOD gunner and start off from there.
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>>183130873
People ask about different classes
The truth is you have to use both depending on the situation, what you're trying to hit, and what PAs you're using
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>>183126648
don't touch me with your germ-filled hands that touched everyone in ship 4
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>>183126596
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>>183131006
Not that guy, but do you know any good gunners that I would be able to talk to without the help of a translator?
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>>183131669
I do not know any and I stopped playing/caring about Gunner after the meta moved to DA spamming but you can try being friendly to Ares if you're on Ship 2, I don't really think he's one of the best but he is good and can understand english.
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Using the template provided create a map design.
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>>183131669
Dino, best gunner NA
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>>183131669
>>183132446
P.I.D: ひい汰01
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>Ares
Here's a list of the absolute BEST GUNNERS:

Trista Sestina
ものさし
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>People making 12* unit sets for hero
Why?
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>People making +35 weapons for hero
Why?
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>hero
Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtO8jmFwKnM
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>People making pasta for dinner
Why?
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>>183133454
But +35 weapons are objectively better than other options. That isn't true for 12* units.
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>>183133715
No, they aren't. I'm sorry you think otherwise.
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>>183133715
depends on the SAF, people prepping for hero are retarded so they're probably carrying shitty SAFs
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>>183133765
>>183133947
A +34 or under weapon is objectively worse than an equivalent +35 weapon, anons.
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>>183133571
Hero Speaks
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https://youtu.be/79-HqvQAqKY
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Anyone get the 12* unit from the LQ yet?
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>>183134764
Many people have, yes.
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>>183122538
It's ok to love both! Blue chars are best chars.
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>>183134074
It is objectively worse, but unless you are aiming for a SAF, it is not typically worth the investment.
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>>183134764
Yes, why?
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>>183136340
What investment? I'm running the EQs anyway for cubes, factor fodders to sell, and the chance at 14*. The files just complete themselves without any conscious effort nor cost on my part.
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>>183134764
The 12* rear from LQ 1-4? Yes
Still unsure which one to use for fighter, that or Izane
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>>183137040
>factor fodders to sell
Wait, if you transfer a SAF to another weapon, that can be used in turn to transfer the SAF too? Holy shit, if that's true I've found a whole new world of potential profit.
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>>183140158
>that can be used in turn to transfer the SAF too
Nope.
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>>183140253
Oh, so he was talking about Yamato factors. Silly me.
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>>183133571
What am I listening to?
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>Player site got the EP5 design update
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In silence... あぁ 流されて 時代は 流されて
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After the next Maint, we will finally be Heroes.
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>>183126596
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>>183143193
Go on a diet you fucking hambeast.
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>>183126596
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>>183142286
why do they have earrings
why is aru implied hot
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>>183143493
Hagito and Erdem always had earrings.
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>>183143286
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>Sega has absolute shit taste
http://pso2.jp/players/event/5th_anniversary/online/itemdesigncontest/result/
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>>183144057
>snek tongue got in
yesssssss
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>>183144057
>No cast/eal parts
.
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>>183144057
sega will make everything look ugly in-game and have shitty movements
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>>183144581
It's okay, every single outfit that won except for one looks ugly already.
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>>183144375
pretty sure it was specified in contest rules that they weren't accepting CAST parts submissions
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http://pso2.jp/players/
>Matoi countdown voice
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So who is leveling hero to 75 this week?
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>>183144057
>Garbage
No shocker here.
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>>183144057
>none of the oily skin body paint got in
lel
also, ANOTHER edgelord nun outfit
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>>183144057
Shitty camos
>costumes
Sacred Messiah would've looked good if it didn't have those retarded crystals flying out her ass, トイフェルノンネ looks okay if they make good colors which they wont and will look like shit in the game and the cute swimsuit.
>accessories
Twin sword unit things will look like shit and wobble around, Star barrette extend is ehhh and the rest is just silly stuff.
>body paint
Finally body paint chokers.

Overall garbage picks.
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>>183144057
>even more fucking angel wings
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>>183144057
>Aigis Regia and the one with no name didn't make it in
Oh come the fuck on.
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>>183147283
why do people want to put ugly capes and waistcloths on everything
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>>183148064
Cause long back/waistcloths make any character look like a total fucking badass
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>>183148214
no
you have accessories for that
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Server's up
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>>183148370
they're not good enough plus we need an actual GOOD armored costume that isn't cutesy or whatever garbage most japs like to deform them into.
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>>183148490
just buy gilgamesh armor
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>>183148551
Hell naw
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There is an elegant scratch but why is there so much bullshit saturating the prize pool? What purpose do these mag food devices serve anyone?
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>>183149165
why would sega want desirable rewards to be common
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>>183149165
Did 4 2200 AC scratches and got 2 elegant technique 1 elegant stamina and some spirita boost. It is a complete scam. You won't ever get what you actually want.
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>>183143726
So many cuckolds in one picture.
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>revived yumas choker
I thought they didn't revive collab shit
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>>183150606
scratch more, friend
i'm sure you'll eventually get what you want :)
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>>183151104
it's a sega collab.
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>>183151104
here's how you can tell when something is never going to be revived. look at the text at the bottom.
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Do any EQs match the double boosted LQ in terms of exp?
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>>183151938
No, this is the best there is, except for maybe EP1 still.
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>>183150606
The rates are posted on the scratch page. The elegant items are a very small percentage, like 2% each. Scratching is a gamble so I wouldn't really recommend it unless you have a lot of disposable income or there are a lot of items in a scratch you're interested in, or you want a bonus scratch item.
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is it boost week yet?
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>>183154380
Yes.
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>browsing my storage to work out my fodder status
>630
>log in again
>2 minutes later 630 again
amazing sega.
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>>183155863
>Still desperately tries to copy Lunas look
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>>183155842
That's probably your internet, nobody else seemed to have a disconnect problem.
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Done anything good affixes yet?
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>>183155842
Try restarting your computer, mine was acting up after patch last week, and it started working fine after I restarted
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>>183156629
>no phrase weak

in to the trash
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>>183156629
nope, i only have 1m meseta
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>>183156696
phrase only works out to be marginally stronger than mod (by like .5%), and only on its target element.
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They should make a new, harder solo XQ that all the nerfed classes have to do in order to stay expert. I'm tired of getting people playing shitter classes in my MPAs
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>>183157690
They should just ban anyone that is not FI.
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But seriously why does the game devolve into facetanking under halfline or just having full invincibility on for 90% of the classes?
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>>183158253
I wish it was 100%. Every time I've had a Gracia fail it was because of squishy force players getting one shot. I hope they switch classes after the nerfs
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I hope you all enjoy your extra dose of boat.
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>>183158417
if you subhumans didn't keep pushing the full attack/pp unit meme for five years then maybe people would actually get a little HP on the side instead of 200 attack units with no defenses to speak of
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>>183158490
I want to bring that blue-haired cutie into my room and do nice things to her.
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>>183158490
>rematch is the AIS phase again
>still needs 80/80
Fucking why
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>>183158506
I don't think this general has as much influence on the broad pso2 community as you think it does, most of these are JP players. The problem with your suggestion is that nerfed classes like Force and Bow Braver need much more PP to do well than other classes so they have less room to affix hp. The easiest thing to do is switch classes, I don't see why they don't just do that
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>>183158630
>You need to be 80/80 for Boat Rematch
What?
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>>183158631
mostly just they find the classes fun

ultimately this is not a game that is meant to be balls-to-the-wall hard but people who buy into the raw attack/pp meme drag everybody down when theyre more interested in licking the floor than just clicking master shot a few dozen times because "i saw this one nicovideo of somebody doing damage on a stationary target so i'll do it on everything!"

i just want to hit things
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>>183158630
80/80 restricted fights are a reward for those who actually put in the 'effort' to get to 80/80. a bonus, as it were.
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>>183158762
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>>183159001
Still hate it because your stats don't matter much when in an AIS.
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>>183158490
They didn't scale anything down they just lowered the health. This laziness is embarrassing.
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>>183159191
thats what deus was like as well

is it still two waves of aether missiles as well?
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>>183159191
>>183159251
There's MORE of them in rematch.
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>>183159251
>>183159360
Pretty sure its impossible to destroy all of the missiles in a pub. Unless you organize people to pick a sector of the map.
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best pso2 girl ever
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>>183159112
Its not about stats, its about dedication.
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>>183159692
most garbage taste evver
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How much have you made so far?
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>>183160613
Why did you black out their names?
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>>183160613
70mil
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>>183159191
He had some new attacks. He shot out lasers during his spinny boat lasers. He used the mini nukes more than once. He summoned more nukes during the big attack. Also I think some plane kamikazed me.
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>>183160613
This is more the hoarding period for me though I should come out with aroun 60-80m by the end of the week depending on what the market does.
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>>183160613
>forgot this was a boost week
>didn't prepare anything
Shit
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>>183160613
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>tfw smuuu buys from your shop
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>>183161052
Now why would you go and do that?
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What's the failure condition on the new Yamato?
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>elegant power is still 36m despite being in scratch
Gonna enjoy scalping melee players in ep5, you won't be laughing when you can't afford to affix as well as the nerfed classes you're laughing at.
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>>183162167
I play bow
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>>183162248
kys
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>stinky fighters still thinking they'll be king in ep5
Fuck off.
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>>183162962
LMAO2MINS
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>>183161872
Time limit
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>>183163074
LMAOARMPITS
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>>183162962
>must obsessed wb slave still thinking she won't be staking them in ep5
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>>183162962
What class is going to compete with them, sweetheart? Hero doesn't count because we know literally nothing about how they work in the real world.
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>>183162962
>implying there'll be any gaijin heroes after day 1 because of weapon swap lag making the classes main gimmick unusable
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tfw all I want from boost week is a Qliphad drop and even that's too much to ask probably
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12* unit trading WHEN
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>>183164815
please wait 2 more years
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>>183166960
But I want to sell this pre-affixed Izane set while it's still optimal. 10/11* trading didn't take that long
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>>183167176
Unless you gave up on s attack classes would it not make sense to keep it around?
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>>183132601
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>>183167425
Only Fighter wants it, I'd rather sell it off and make a new set for other melee and pocket the other half of the money for my main class.
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should I even keep playing? I'll never have enough meseta to do anything
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>>183169062
Not with that attitude you won't
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>>183169205
It's not like there are any good ways to make money if you aren't already loaded
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>>183169062
It takes a while to make money nowadays but it's still possible. Ever since you stopped being able to trade relevant units, prices went up like crazy but no additional ways to make meseta were added. You basically need to get lucky and get high slot affixes to drop or you need to save up until you can start market speculating.
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>>183169287
>market speculating
You say that like it's that easy. Not to mention one mistake can set you back weeks.
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>>183169581
I play the long game, often the things I hold I hold for months at a time. It's more consistent that way
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>>183169889
So as a newer player desperately in need of money for affixes I'm just totally fucked?
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>>183170057
Depends on what kind of affixes you're interested in. I doubt you have a sweet tooth like me yet who considers any unit set not worth at least 150m worth it. You don't need to go super expensive, budget affixes that still entirely serviceable cost a tenth of what the really expensive stuff costs.
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>>183169062
You don't need meseta to do anything.
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>wasting money affixing when the next power creep point is a week away
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>>183170326
t. oldfart clinging to his austere + saikis
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>>183170213
I wouldn't mind it so much if 20 mil or so was enough for anything remotely decent, but that's barely enough for one unit's fodder these days even if you're only going 4s.
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>>183170326
Have you forgotten how long into ep4 it was before true austere equals started showing up? The demon unit stats aren't confirmed yet. Not like it matters, this convo started talking about wanting to sell units not affix them.
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>>183170607
Uh dude you what the fuck are you trying to affix
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>>183170748
I unno, just everything I see other players using falls within those price ranges
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>no one else uses AIS laser ever
>no one freezes the big guns
>no one attacks the big guns besides me to stop them from 2 shotting people
>everyone else dying constantly
>still don't fail
Good to know this is doable even if your group decides to try and throw as hard as they can
>>
A heads up that if you run yamato first part on 2 different 80/80 characters, you get to do the 80/80 bonus fight twice instead of just once.
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>>183173117
this sounds temp ban worthy knowing Sega
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>>183173742
add in that if you multiship with the above strategy, you can run yamato 6 times per eq (potentially up to even 8 if you do full organised).
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>>183173117
On the same ship?
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>>183173959
yes, on the same ship. I just tested it this last eq to confirm misinformation or not.
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>>183171730
Like what
Astral soul isn't built in a day
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>come back to the game after few years of hiatus
>decide to make new character for tutorials and shit
>make force because i never played one and space wizards sounds nice
>read about fo
Fucking hell, i don't want to roll katana shitter again and rangers look even more annoying with traps and shit. Are summoners any good and viable? Will they survive ep5?
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>almost at 75 with ranger
>people are just now telling me that ranger is shit for a Gunner sub
>now I have to get a ton of shit to make hunter playable and then grind it to 75
Really getting tired of the shitty balance meme sega seems to love.
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>>183174683
They really need to do something about astral soul, attempts at astral catalyst have nearly doubled in price in the last 6 months. Too many classes rely on astral soul to let this continue much further.
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Have we gotten any details on Partisan HU rebalancing?

I know no one cares but me but.
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>>183175074
>Are summoners any good and viable?
yes but iirc you have to spend a fair chunk of time endgame to get the best shit and you have to manage a few things on top of that, not sure what's happening to them ep5
just play katana or fi, you'll have a simpler time
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QUICK QUESTION

started the game recently and in the hunter skill tree the just attack bonus to non technique skills, so it does apply to my normal and photon attacks but does not apply to magic like the bouncer, techer and force? so if i use a ranged PA from braver i get the JA bonus?
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>>183175074
Summoner is losing their single best tool. They'll probably be middle of the pack in dps in ep5. Starting summoner now is kind of a pain too since they have elemental weak hit so you need rainbow pets. Just play a melee class dude, it's so much easier to gear and they're going to be better in ep5 anyway.
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>>183175556
As long as you just attack, you are correct.
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>>183175292
Sega doesn't balance, they just rotate who the best classes are. Then once they've had their turn, they destroy them so they're bottom tier.
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>>183175505
>>183175703
What about br bows? Still inferior to katana in every way as main weapon?

I remember around start of ep3 i was getting jealous with how easy ranged had it in lilipa and falz, didn't need to be in your face and dodge shit, that's why i was pondering of doing ranged char this time around.
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>>183175556
It applies to everything except techniques, that means the elemental spells Force and other classes can use
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>>183175496
Besides nerf volg and buff power of everything else? Nope. It will most probably end up with volg being useless for anything outside quick bursts and damage worse than Sword which is pretty bad.
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>>183175907
>>183176141
great thanks.
i'm confused since i know they are fan translations and was not sure if by techniques they meant that magic stuff or techniques like disc skills.
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>>183176089
Bow is dead in ep5, not even exaggerating. The only two PAs worth anything to bow are being nerfed to hell. Bow is bad right now, they can't take any more nerfs.
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>>183176337
Well shit. Is meta really br/fi, take massive hunter, spam whatever katana pa is op at the moment while tanking/jg everything?
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>>183176760
Br/Hu but you got the rest right. Don't forget automated halfline.
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>>183175292
You too? I can't even grind Hu to 75 because I'm burned out of the game and I only care enough to login for any EQ that fills up the military CFs.
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>>183176760
Right now it's more diverse but the only non-melee not being severely nerfed in ep5 is ranger (who isn't that good right now) and gunner (might be nerfed, we don't know yet). Fi/Hu is the king by far with the rest of the non-bouncer melee and gunner will probably be on top in ep5. Fucked up considering the worst classes in ep5 are going to be the ones who have to put the most effort into gearing. You needed a Bow-exclusive r-atk set, rip to all of us who actually made one. Most of the other bad classes still work on a rainbow palette system too.
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incoming blogpost
>time to make some factor catalysts
>ok lets hit dudu first
>5 fails on 5slot sameslot with 40% boosters
>fuck this monica time
>5 fails on 5slot sameslot with 40% boosters
>i need to do this 12 times with
i only have myself to blame for falling for meme affixes
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>>183176832
Yes, always mess up hu and fi, rpgs conditioned me in thinking fi is usually more of a tank. Welp, guess once katana shitter always katana shitter, what katana pas are good at the moment? Last time i played i think shunka was the most op shit, but stupid dash up in it made me hate it.
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>>183177280
Astral isn't a meme, force and bow braver basically need astral to compete at a high level, especially in ep5.
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>>183177280
i'm sorry
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>>183177280
my condolences brother
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>>183177403
Almost every katana is being buffed in ep5 which is next week, we don't know yet. Right now guren, sakura type 0 and gekka are the best.
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>>183174683
>>183175372
I don't think they'll do anything about it. The demand for Noble Power and Elegant Power has reached an all-time high with the buffing of melee classes and the inclusion of Zeinesis/Clifard weapons that make the best use of them, yet they stubbornly give them horrid drop rates in the latest scratches despite all that.

If anything Sega loves watching us scramble to spend money on scratches and time farming affixes on es just so we can affix our weapons, they aren't going to go easy on us.
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>>183177572
Thanks a lot anon.
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>>183176192

I more meant specifics like, which stuff is getting most buffed

unless the plan is to basically keep damage output the same without forcing us to use volg
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>>183177660
>farming es
Is it really that good, in the time it took me to get a +32 arion I could have made more money by playing the main game.
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>>183177872
>making money by playing the game
uhhh no
99% of money gained from playing are weekly or daily COs
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>>183178015
If you don't know how to make money sure
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>>183178096
relying on RNG is not making money
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>>183178212
whatever you say, pal
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>>183178212
HOW DO CASINOS MAKE MONEY?
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>>183178459
how
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>>183178628
fooling suckers
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>>183178628
casinos are rigged
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>>183178779
If I went around telling people how I wouldn't be making this much. PSO2 market is fucky because of how small scale it is. Small disruptions can ruin a good money maker. I don't make this much often mind you, this is what a 2-3 day haul during boost week looks like. I'm only up to 50 million this boost week so far, I might break 100 by the end of the week depending on how much I play but I'm not holding my breath. ES has always been a bust for me and I've farmed five arions so I don't know what people see in it since I haven't had anything good happen to me.
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>>183178779
I'll give you a hint, I don't make my money with big ticket items generally
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My dad works at SEGA(c) and he says hero will be shit
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>>183177210
I'm feeling you
Three characters because of the mag jew and i've only gotten one to 75/75. Cant even power level because >no friends and because everything under SH is dead. Then I get to grind c-files, so much fun.
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>>183168196
>only fighter needs it
Hu/Fi, Br/Hu,Bo/Hu benefits from it greatly too
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>>183181352
They benefit but they don't ~need~ it the same way Fi does except for Bo but I'm not a masochist who plays garbage classes.
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>>183173742
people ran falz arms on 10 characters to get 9 more chances of fishing a 12* from elder back then so thats pretty normal
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>>183181352
>brhu and bohu benefit from izane greatly
what the hell are you smoking, the former is a massive pp hog and the latter has no use at for all that health, considering all the healing options you have available. Pick something with more attack and actually has pp on it so you don't waste a slot affixing pp.
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>>183183262
bohu doesn't need pp
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>>183184229
Needs more pp than you'd expect. Bohu needs hp less than it does pp
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For 5s, is Power III/Quartz/Spirita III/Modulator/Deus Factor an alright S-atk so far? I'll obviously improve it later, this is just to start.
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>>183185335
No dude, that's a waste of 5s and modulator, just do a good 4s affix
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do people hate running running ep3 LQ despite the boost 300%+ boost going on? cant seem to find too many parties for it
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>>183186181
It's a shit LQ. I'd rather run the ep4 one.
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What's a good 4s Gunner unit affix?
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>>183186181
are you fat?

>>183186514
app/mod/shoot4/fever
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>>183186556
>>183186514
whoops. i meant app/mod/flict/fever
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>>183186556
How expensive would that be to do?
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>>183185547
>just do a good 4s affix
Like what?
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>>183187284
Act/PowIV/FlictArma/DeusFactor, swap in spirita boost if you're hurting for PP
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>>183190172
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>>183190172
Is he gonna play full tank hero
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>>183193216
>the literal go full aggressive class, as a tank
yeah that sounds like retard cheeki breeki.
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>>183190172
>going full with Unga with no bunga whatsoever
Fucking slavs
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Does solo PD have a built-in extra 100% RDR on top of this week's boost?
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>>183194051
>Using /fgg/ nigger speak
>criticizing a slav
The irony.
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>>183195139
All boss triggers give you an extra 100% RDR if you're the trigger owner
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>>183195157
>>Using /fgg/ nigger speak
are you honestly this new?
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Is it possible for an arks to be too thicc?
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>>183197386
>Lilith started playing last year and thinks he can call others new now
LOL!
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>>183197890
i actually started back in 2015 nigger
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>>183198890
>desperately trying to sound extra cool by inserting more buzzwords from his only source of education
Loving every laugh, Lilith's tulpa!
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>>183197890
not only am i not lillith, but
>>183199124
>tulpa
>using /x/ buzzwords to make it seem like you fit in
hey buddy i think you got the wrong door, r/4chan is two sites down
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>>183177280
Shamefur dispray for continuing this,will commit sudoku but just wanted to wish the people who are affixing to have some luck because i dont have

>21 tries later
>all i have to show for are 4 factor success and 2 stacks of cubes siphoned
>start checking prices for yamato factor since i dried up on those
>assrape tier even if i slowly start constructing them myself
>unironically start thinking about buying factor directly since rng is being an ass

but hey at least the non factor stuff are ready so i guess thats something
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>>183199468
Sorry, but I will only speak with the original personality, not a piece of Lilith's brain.
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>>183197386
If you don't like getting called out then stop using it, it is that simple.
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>>183199592
i am so, so sorry anon
i've gotten some failures too, but don't give up hope--there's still a week left
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>>183200010
>wanting to speak with lilith
And this is why you're a failure.
>>
>its another thread not just ignoring and reporting shitlith's post episode

Please... no more reruns
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>>183199468
the tulpa meme actually gained popularity because of /mlp/ iirc, horsefuckers started doing it because they wanted to create their own pony gfs to schizo-fuck
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>>183199592
I never make my own catalysts. Due to the absurd prices of affixes if you fail once you would have already paid as much as a premade factor catalyst.
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>>183200297
You actually are new.
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>>183200254
Sure thing, Lilith. Go get a degree already.
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>>183200630
>needing a degree
shiggy diggy dandoogy doo
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>>183200106
Thanks for the heads up frankly even outside boost week its "possible" to do it since the chances range from 46-50% or so depending what i use but i might just gather money instead and do what >>183200351 says
anyway i know i am borderline avatarfagging so time to fuck off
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>>183200765
Yes, Lilith! STEM is more important than a career in video gaming.
>>
So, why do people suggest Upper Trap over Poison Trap? It seems like it'd not only be more effective at hitting multiple enemies, but it could help Hu/Fi or the rare Fi that has Chase skilled up.

And what the hell am I supposed to sacrifice points in (in the typical Ra skill build) to max PP Save Bullet? Killing Bonus? Moving Snipe?
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>>183201191
>STEM
>an oversaturated as fuck field
>even moreso than video games
All the shit you need to do for STEM is too much work tbqh.
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>>183201468
You're a retard.
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>>183201861
yeah, i know. thats why im gonna work a career for retards
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>>183201468
>this response
Truly, America is the greatest country on Earth.
Tell me you think global warming can be influenced by humans, at least.
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>>183202083
>Tell me you think global warming can be influenced by humans, at least.
Yes. on an unrelated note: HOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMEEE OFFF FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>183201374
Nothing relevant can be poisoned. Post your skill tree, something is wrong if you're having that much trouble maxing PP Save Bullet
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>>183202431
https://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11dSbxIkbCIobxIkbCIobCIobCIobCIobCIobCIofdS0dodBIbl2ibINGAqnIdJksNI20000006doIn0000000jdoboIbIdboIntOcAfdKJIdKdF00000fdo0000000Io00000000ioIn00000000IbIo0000000jdoIb0000000jdB0000000

I guess with excubes and level 80 I could probably max it if I gave up a few points in Killing Bonus, but at 75/75 it's a no-go.
>>
>>183202431
>>183203117
Actually, looks like if I drop Killing Bonus to 5 points, lose the 1 point in Weak Hit Blast Bonus, and lose Upper Trap (which I never use anyhow), I could just max PP Save Bullet at 80.

Does that sound good?
>>
>>183203117
>killing bonus
You fucked up.
>>
>>183203570
Drop Killing Bonus completely but keep the other two you mentioned. Some people would tell you drop moving snipe but I don't recommend that any more now that mobs are more aggressive and the movement PAs are being buffed in ep5. The whole point of traps is for the PP regen, not their main function. You only really use upper trap's main function to stun the shironia mid boss in the wheel I always forget the name of, he used to show up in TDVR.
>>
>>183203629
>>183203845
Really? I was told that Launcher's close-range PAs were pretty good for mobbing though, like Zero Distance and Crazy Smash, or point-blank z-aimed Cosmos Breaker. Wouldn't those get a lot of mileage out of Killing Bonus?

I guess primarily I had started leveling Killing Bonus because of Gu/Ra, though, back before Gu/Hu was a thing...
>>
>>183204148
It's a useless skill on bosses and properly played Ranger doesn't need it to maintain PP.
>>
Any general L rings for ra,gu units?
is that new wb one worth anything?
>>
>>183204273
And that's it? What about points left over at 80, if I drop Killing Bonus entirely? Max Power Bullet? Do Power Bullet and PP Save Bullet affect Launcher if I load WB, then switch?
>>
Did Mother get nerfed or what
>>
>>183204670
its helps a lot if you're a garbage shot
>>
>>183205598
The buff applies to class, not your weapon. After you load a bullet, you keep the r-atk boost no matter what weapon you switch to.
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>>183204670
I heard Jumping Dodge is really cool/fun. It gives you access to that high jump skill that AIS can do. Cooldown is 5s at level 20.
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>>183204670
You don't really have that many options for sharing rings/units between the two classes, aside from Air Reversal and Jumping Dodge which both classes can make use of. Gu and Ra both have a number of useful rings.

Gu needs TMG Stance Up; Front S-roll, and likes having High Time Keep as well, and wants to have them all equipped simultaneously, which pretty much demands you have 12* units slotted specifically for Gu.

Ra on the other hand more or less needs L Non-weak bonus, and likes having P Weak Bullet and Slow dive roll. The upshot is that Ra doesn't need them all at the same time so you can make do with using chat commands to swap as necessary, since you won't need weak bullet while mobbing with launcher, and won't need launcher non-weak when fighting bosses for example.
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>literally no Deus scheduled for today
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>>183212309
neek pls
>>
Post otps
>>
otps
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>>183215002
Epona x Maggie
Kogasito x Remu
Ishya x Take
Destiny x Magik
Kolb x Star
Sophia x Mami
Biscuit x Luna
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>>183210972
>mother still being scheduled instead of being shuffled out
>still no deus triggers
for what purpose
>>
>>183217685
What, you don't want a 0.001% chance at a kasami?
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>>183217685
I predict Deus Esca triggers will become a thing on August 9
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>>183205778
No you just got carried today

They are increasing her downtime after breaking her arms after EP5 but that's later
>>
I played that deus esca (lvl20) and there were a bunch of parties and there was some PA that just instakilled fucking everything?

Was that a fighter?
>>
>>183219046
At level 20 on Normal difficulty it could be literally anything
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Qunachan!
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What if instead of doing passes for 12* units they raised the sales tax to like 10 million meseta
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>>183222268
Greasy play dough girls.
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>>183222514
What purpose would this serve? If you just want to take meseta out of the game this is the worst way to do it since you should be encouraging trade between players while enforcing money sinks elsewhere if you want to stem inflation. There's so few reasons to buy premium right now that 12* passes is the thing that makes the most sense.
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>>183222816
Why is it so important that they justify premium to you
You're not the one doing their accounting
>>
how long before i can afford to buy nier stuff?
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>>183222816
The exact price is flexible, but if the desire for 12* units is there then they'll get the money for it
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>>183222975
I don't really care personally, that's their problem like you said. I just want 12* selling by any means necessary.
>>
http://pso2.jp/players/
Today's countdown voice is Xiera.
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This or should i just stick woth adam's hair?
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boost week
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>>183227783
Chicken scratch. I made over 60 mil today.
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>>183228850
Pocket change. I made 150 mil yesterday.
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Boost weak so ded that I cant even fill my TD3 trigger.
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>>183229010
XD
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>>183228973
Pocket change. I made over 800mil today.
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>>183230384
Small change chummer. I bought SEGA today.
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>>183186181
Everyone is running LQ1, 2, or 5. LQ 3 and 4 have nothing worthwhile.
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>>183233061
I've been running LQ 4 for nearly 20 hours now, suck me off
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>>183186181
Casualscum are afraid of 3 and 4 because of Anga
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>>183227783
h-hhow do i join the 1%
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>>183235223
when i finally get what i want, i'll tell you
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>Want to play PSO2
>Really want Hero
>No motivation to play until Hero comes out
NO ATELIER SCRATCH DATE
help
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>>183235951
Hero comes out in less than a week, just find a single player game to occupy yourself in the mean time.
>>
Can anyone explain summoner?
How should I fill the candy box?
Is there a cookie cutter candy box for all pets or do different pets need different boxes?

Can anyone recommend a good summoner build?
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>>183237141
I use this for my candy box: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z2RjBvPqtasQOYVWWsEeC-aVQZ1IBIpEb_Difltv0mw/edit#gid=0
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>>183237667
I hate selena, are you sure this is any good?
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>>183237908
>>183237908
>>183237908
>>183237908
>>183237908
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>>183144057
No sabers, how unsurprising.
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