/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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>tfw you find a fun build on 3 and 2
>but can't decide because you kinda like both

problem with mobs not spawning continues. Only solution so far is playing offline.

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>>182984741
>actually enjoying every game
What are you, a FAN or something?

>>182984741
You are 24/7 here you dumb sub human

*ninja flips*

>>182984850
Have you checked with your ISP

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>>182984432
getting the plat != beating the game

>>182985072
Miss that ring honestly

What's the general stat progression people make on Quality builds?

27 VIG, then base of your preferred weapon, then 26 STR min, then more VIG, then END, then DEX, then finish STR?

>>182985072
*plays DaS3 regularly*

>no spell tool that can cast sorceries and pyros
Why the fuck not you stupid slant eyed jews? The Storyteller's Staff or Izalith Staff would have been perfect for this

>>182984639
>>182984639
>>182984639

real thread

>>182985354
Get 27 vig and 22 end with a raw weapon, then get 27 str, then switch to heavy and grab some dex. Once you feel your damage is acceptable, get more vig and end.

>>182985354
27 vig, 20 end, base stats, 27 str, 25 dex,

Give me the most boring build you can think of (I'm talking I'll hate this build, but will play it for this run) on Souls 1

>>182985831
You can't go more boring than sorceries

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>>182985097
>"first try"
>zero souls
>all that damage taken
If you want to make fun of a boss, at least post a webm of someone who's good at the game.

>>182985075
i only had problems with DaS3 so far... will try tho
mum and sis using netflix on 2 different platforms gets me laggy sometimes...

>>182985354
Personal preference:

1. Token amount of points into all four stats to balance things out
2. Vigor while simultaneously reaching desired weapon base requirements
3.Prioritize 27 Vigor, then everything else equally (favoring whatever your weapon scales better in)
4. Reach 26 Endurance and around 34 Vigor
5. Max out melee stats, then go back for the rest

All while staying within the general level brackets for whatever area you're in or that you wish to invade in.

Endurance is the one you can leave lagging behind the rest the most unless your weapon of choice is an ultra. You can prioritize 27 Str early on if you want to just mow through mobs and have a K***ht's Ring, but that comes at the cost of only being able to swing twice before rolling away.

>>182985831
Slv1 fists only.

>>182986057
Nah, I'll stick to posting me beating him in one try, especially since it triggers DaS2 babbies so hard, double especially considering they were saying I couldn't beat him in 100 tries.

>>182985541
>thread wars
Get that shit out of here.

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>>182985354
>people level up vig and end before str and dex
> i do that last
>mfw

>>182986519
Raw weapons, m8

>>182986519
There is almost no reason to level Str and Dex first.

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Name a more kino boss than gael

>that aesthetic
>that music
>the fight itself

Literally one of the best bosses in the series.

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>>182986327
>"one try"
>zero souls

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>>182986651
Oh man, I can already here this coming

>>182985513
It's not like White-Haired Talisman is a good casting tool either. Just strap on a Crystal Chime and use that.

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>>182986689
>claims to have played DaS2
>Doesn't know what the Agape Ring is

I've never played Demon's Souls as my PS3 got the YLOD in 2014, and I got into Souls in 2015 with Bloodborne

>Die in a cross counter, killing two phantoms
>Fellow red throws down an I'm Sorry as he sets off after the host

God speed, brother. I hope you won.

>>182986651
I like Ludwig too, personally, but the music during Gael phase 2 is easily my favorite song in DaS3.

>>182986826
Woops, posted too early, is it worth buying a PS3 for?

>>182987016
If you have a strong CPU the emulated version will be playable soon.

>>182986818
Did that response actually take you 20 threads to figure out?
Holy shit son, what the fuck

>>182987016

Ask yourself what other games you might get as well, there's plenty of decent ones but it depends on preferrence. Then think of what else you could spend the money on

>>182986641
>>182986647
will try in next build
any build recomendation?
already did the "pure" ones (full str, dex, quality, pyro, mage... not faith boring for me)

>>182987016
You'll have a hard time finding physical copies of Demon's Souls, unless you already have one.

That being said, PS3 emulation is coming along to the point where people may be able to smoothly emulate it (outside of the sound) with a good enough PC. Servers will likely discontinue completely before then though.

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Why the fuck are there 3 threads up??? who the fuck doesn't know the rules of /vg/???????

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>based ENB likes Scholar and rather streams DS2 over DS3


Where were you when 3fags were eternally BTFO'd?

>>182987315

Faith is an incredibly fun run if you plan it properly

Could get some friends to take you through as a purely support player, only healing and doing the bare minimum required to kill enemies

While a PURE faith build does suffer until very late game due to one of the most important miracles being locked behind the first boss and damn near the entire second area of the Final DLC, hybrid builds such as STR/FAI can start to be run as early as Cathedral/Catacombs. Heavy Saint Bident with a weapon buff is insanely powerful, and Wolnir's Holy Blade is a damn good STR/FAI mid range weapon to get you to the better stuff

Of course, you could try a luck build, or a Dex/Int stealth build, or a bow build

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>>182987707
Is strawmanning bannable?

>>182987660
I don't know and I don't care, but people need to stop making threads this early

>>182987660
One's the old thread hitting the bump limit.
The current one is some autist posting the new thread ~15 posts before bump limit instead of ~10
The one in the middle is some other autist who wants to promote the Discord and have only a single link in the OP

>Midir gives a moonlight spell instead of Dark Greatsword
Miyazaki really shit on dark spells huh

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>>182987315

>>182987996
RMAO MEMBER KINGS FIERD YOU GAIJIN?

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Reposting here because I would like /dsg/'s sage-like wisdom on the matter.

I'm still a PvP scrub, btw. Trying to get into it with one of the "easier" weapons, so to speak.

>>182987889
>>182987889

>>182987996
It's not like Dark was ever going to get good anyways, outside of a complete overhaul of existing casting tools and other requirements.

At least we got Zullie's mask, Onyx Blade and Crux of the Mad King.

Guts cosplay is 100% worse than waifu fashion

>>182988110
Whoops, thread deleted. Question was optimal build with Sellsword Twinblades.

Options; 40 dex, 40 luck, Cartus Rouge,
or 40 dex, 60 faith DMB.

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>>182988165
fite me

>>182988110
Either 80 Dex Sharp, or base Dex plus 60 Fai DMB buff. Rouge, Luck and Bleed are all complete shit, in that order.

>>182987817
Yes, he keeps posting ENB shit.
Almost as if he was shilling like a dumb Twitch drone

>>182988275
go with the 40 dex 40 luck, lesser used

>>182988313
So, would 80 dex + Lightning Resin do more damage than 12 dex with a 60fth DMB build?

Has it been tested?

>>182988164
>Zullie's mask
it's as worthless as dusk's crown
>Onyx
Dark claymore has more AR
>Crux
Nothing to say here, the weapon is bullshit and even though it's a dark weapon, it works best on a STR/FAI and not on INT/FAI. Same with Murky handscythe

>>182988494
Sellswords require 16 Dex, not 12. And they're more for PvE and co-op than for PvP.

If you want to be more of a dick, use Sharp Twindaggers and 18/60 DMB buff, Quickstep through the other guy's shit.

Are there PvE weapon tiers? Has anyone ever bothered, or do the people who care about tiers only bother with pvp?

>>182988882
PvE can be beaten with anything.

>>182988882
anything is viable. otherwise SL1 wouldn't exist
check a speedrun if you want a faster way to finish the game

>>182988882
Answered your own question anon.
Most of the people here still take PVP it as serious as breathing.

>Kill 3 phantoms in 10 seconds via rollcatching, then the host with the very next swing

I feel like god

>>182988543
Onyx Blade has way more reach than the Claymore and requires less STR/DEX.

>>182988275

Sellsword are not in any way, shape or form an easy weapon to get into PvP with, and I cannot recommend using them to get into PvP

Take a Longsword, practice shit like turn and burn, perfect spacing, hit and roll. Learn movesets, parry timings

I used to be shit at using SSs properly until I had to get reasonably good with them to get my Watchdog covenant levelled up. now I'm highly comfortable with them and tend to run one as my secondary at all times

>tfw no dragon gf
Also no dragon covenant

>roll BS someone completely by accident
>he's now afraid to swing

>>182989278
Psychological warfare

>>182989259
covenants aren't even covenants anymore

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>>182989259
Playing the wrong game for that, friend.

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>>182989278
>be pure caster
>run out of mana
>have nothing but my shitty staff to knock people over the head over
>parry a bunch of people with my small shield
>they're now afraid to approach me

>>182989015
>>182988957
That's why I ask because some weapons are better than others, you can kill anyone with anything in pvp does that mean there shouldn't be weapon tiers?

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Okay guys first playthrough of DS2:SOTFS and I just want to ask what the fuck is wrong with the running animations on the guys wearing the falconer armor set over towards shrine of winter?

I honestly was so confused and then I started laughing and nearly died and had to fall back and collect myself before killing them

They run like they're trying not to poop or something

>>182989416
I'd be fine with actual covenant devotion and punishments for betrayal and/or no way to change covenants, if they were more fleshed out. Meaning, the rewards are useful for anyone specifically joining that covenant for its PvP and not just if you have the specific build to take advantage of it, not locking achievement-required spells/items behind them or just rewards that would be more useful outside of the covenant, fully involved quest lines for each individual covenant, the works.

So if you join a covenant, it's purely for the PvP aspect of it, and not because you need Man-grub's Staff for your Luck build, or you need Great Lightning Spear to kill King of the Storm more easily, and shit like that.

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wats dragon pusy like?

>>182989969
in the original game, they only appeared in Things Betwixt in NG+, so their feet were obscured by tall grass. They never bothered to finish the walking animation when they placed them elsewhere in SotFS

>>182989969
Something that wasn't fixed for the remake, I guess. Lots of shit is still broken in SotFS.

>>182990258

Ugh, what a cheap, completely not based imitation

The real, BASED pusy poster knows what dragon pusy is like

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>>182989168
>Sellsword are not in any way, shape or form an easy weapon to get into PvP with
Eh I dunno, there are far harder weapons to use well. Maybe it's not as easy to use as an Ultra or GS, but they have a good running attack and solid damage potential, which can cover a lot of mistakes.

Could the Nameless King beat Gwyn?

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>>182989707

>Anri puts her prism stone and co-op sign infront of the right door of Anor Londo if Anri is female, and infront of the left door is Anri is male

I was bloody panicking that I'd fucked the quest up and I've instead stumbled across shit I'd not noticed before

Any other subtle little things you've noticed guys?

>>182991037
The description of the Server changes when ascended to Fire or Chaos

Sir Alonne will bow if you use the bow gesture at the start of the fight

>>182991418

Knew the second one, did not know the first, that's pretty interesting. Maybe a leftover description they never changed?

i accidentally leveled straight to 120, can i go through the hollowing process and cheatengine my way back to 120 if i lower my stats accordingly and not get banned for it, or am i boned?

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>>182991418
>>182991763

>>182987780
Will try str/fai
27str 60 fai? Or 40/40? Thanks anon

>Want to FINALLY do the DLC in DaS2.
>Want it to be challenging.
>Also want to build around getting to level 150.
Should I just speedrun my way to NG+, or will it be difficult at NG 150?
Alternatively, will it be difficult at NG 150 WITH Covenant of Champions on?

>>182987951
>The current one is some autist posting the new thread ~15 posts before bump limit instead of ~10
this is where the problem is, you fucking retards
the new thread should be posted AT the bump limit, never before. We're not an active enough general to warrant posting it early

>>182992030

Boned in a sense that you would indeed get banned for doing that, near as I can remember. Otherwise people would just get all the equipment in the game and then CE themselves down to High Wall level

Not entirely sure why you're worried about hitting 125 though

Captcha was a zucchini, which according to someone on /ck/ is a tumor growing from a plant

>>182992126
26/60

Casting on 40 of anything is hot garbage.

Can someone post the onionbro faith poisecasting build? I want to have fun

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Why is everyone so big? Why can't I be big?

>>182992126

26-27/60, gives you all your miracles at top damage, your buffs at top power, your heals at top power, you get just under the same amount of damage on Wolnir as you would with a 40/40

>>182992334
Fun?!
But that's forbidden, anon.

>>182992334
i've never seen a poise faith caster ever be successful unless they get lucky and someone rolls right in their slow ass shit

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>>182992334

>>182992546
thanks, was really looking for the ATT/END ratio

>>182987951
>Discord
There is a dsg discord?

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>>182992334

I cannot, but i can post my own variation

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*blocks your platinum*

>>182992030
SL125 is perfectly fine. If you're worried about it, then just do Yoel's quest on a new character, most everything you could get from that questline can be muled anyways (outside of the Miracles).

>>182992215
It's pretty challenging as it is at SL150 on NG without CoC.

You'd have to be rationing souls and constantly using Agape Ring to not hit SL150 by the time you reach end-game anyways. Levels are absurdly cheap in DaS2.

>>182992736
Yes, some autist keeps bringing it up in the thread to shitpost against it to stir up drama and to kill FCs. Here's the link if you're interested: https://discord.gg/C3AX2Hk

anyone else think it's really clunky that light attacks bound to r1 and heavy attacks bound to r2? I have mine switched around, the triggers feel better when used as light attacks.

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>D/D/D/D
How are you supposed to build around these weapons?

>>182993059
Depends on the weapon but usually you go for the damage type with higher base and build to support that.

Is it just me or is invading in Demon Ruins absolute cancer

It's always two level scaled SL500 phantoms

>>182993059
Quality, usually.

They often have pretty high base damage.

How do I maximize chances of getting summoned as a spear?

>>182987817
>he hates when people discuss videogames and the people who play them

>kills twinking invaders
>allows """""down-scaled""""" phantoms

can NOT beat pontiff sulyvahn lads

>>182993321

If you're on PS4 I can try and help, I'm somewhat underlevelled for the area but I've got what's needed

39 Vigor or 50 Vigor?

What's the consensus?

>>182993059
Either quality and ignore the elemental damage, or Pyro and ignore the physical damage.

>>182993249
Equip covenant item, password and put down Red Sign, spam Red Eye Orb.

>>182993404
39, 50 and even 44 is excessive and just wastes points you could put in END or offensive stats instead.

>>182993481
t. one shot by riposte

>>182993559
What one-shot ripostes you at 39 Vigor in 3? Even a hornet dagger can't do that even with Chain.

>>182993559
t. gets hit
t. gets parried
t. bad player

>>182993404
You're sinking 11 levels for only 100 more HP. You can get by with FaP+3 and Life+3.

Unless you're doing something retarded like 10/10 Raw Longsword, then may as well just bring Vigor up to 99 and put the rest into Vit and End for armor alongside Steel Protection +3.

>>182993559
I don't think that's possible outside of memery like RTSR+morion

>>182993456
REO just has me invade

>>182993059
Letter scaling is based on the percentage of the base damage which you gain for extra stat points. So the higher the base damage the more extra damage that D actually gives. Since the weapons you're talking about are split damage with the physical base damage being higher, you should stack the stats which increase the physical base damage.

They're all Quality.

>>182993679
good luck never getting hit glass cannon

oh wait you just did and now you're dead

>>182993260
>4. Nobody cares about e-celeb bullshit, except to make fun of them. We're here to play and talk about the game itself, not join some Literal Who's cult of personality.

>>182992394
You have chicken legs unable to support a large frame, you anklet.

>>182993321
Parry him. Kill the clone as it spawns.

>>182993739
There's a chance each time you invade of going in as a Spear. If you don't want that, then just do the first two and wait.

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>>182992540
>rolls right in their slow ass shit
that's pretty much it

>>182993683
Every little bit matters imo.

With 50 vigor and ROF +3 and Life Ring +3 I survived a surprise hornet ringed yhorm's machete riposte and ended up winning the duel in the end.

>>182992220
Shut up Jeff

>>182994380
fuck you, I'm not jeff
maybe you should listen to jeff though, he sounds like he knows what he's talking about

>>182992546
>125

What a fucking scrub

>>182994097
Yeah but that shit looks cool

>>182994506
But anon, you're the biggest shitter in this thread.

>>182994248
If you manage to get parried by someone whose loadout relies on having a pocket Yhorm's and Hornet (not to mention seeing them with a parry tool out and still falling for it), then you deserve to lose.

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>tfw you keep getting invaded by MLG pros and your only summons are niggas with scythes

I kinda can't bring myself to leave Yhorm's Bossroom because my VIG is so low that if Siegward hadn't had the most perfect timing I've ever seen out of an NPC I'd be dead

Fucking from toying with my heart

>>182993831
I'm also against e-celeb circlejerk when it's not content about a game (i.e I don't care about their personal life ) but in this case it was about a very Souls-relevant Youtuber / streamer who was professionally involved with the developers.

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>>182996814
The post causing this specific discussion is less about the streamer or the games than it is trying to start shit between users who happen prefer one game in the franchise over another. That specific post is inarguably shitposting.

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Does this fashion work at all?

>>182997269
Not at all.

>>182997269
anon you look pretty dumb, wear a better (thicker) leggings set and a bigger shield
that axe looks like a toy as well

>>182997269
What the hell, man

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>>182997256
That is a fair assessment. However while the post is intentionally inflammatory in nature it was kind of interesting to see ENB genuinely start to enjoy Dark Souls 2 especially since it's generally been his least favorite of the bunch and I'm especially interested in what he thinks of the DLC bossfights like Sir Alonne, Ivory Kang and Fume Knight.

Who knows, maybe Scholar was what was needed to draw him back into Souls. While the lore is kinda meh to him I would lije to hear his opinion on the overall design of the DaS2 DLCs.

Regen build in the arena is fun as fuck. Passive faggots get btfo like its nothing.

>>182998638
t. things that never happened

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>>182998638
>Haha I'm winning by being the bigger passive faggot, look at me go.

>>182992239
rip

>>182992979
fair, ill just deal with being 125

>>182999072
At what point does it stop you from roll-cancelling that?

>>182999656

You can "hold" heals can't you?

What are some good spells for an mlgs build? Is there anything even worth having? Darts have a pretty big startup unless I sacrifice a ringslot. Should I just go vig/vit/end with 16/11/40?

>>182999656
The roll cancel happens at the hold point. If you hold the cast button down you'll just sit in the animation forever, which is supposed to be a sign for other people to stand next to you in co-op. During this period while you're holding the skill, you can roll cancel.

To use it like this you need to deliberately hold it as a bait.

>>183000008
Great Farron Dart, Homing Soul, Soul Greatsword, Flashsword, Farron Hail are all good. You want Sage Ring+2 anyway if you're planning on casting during combat so you'll have to deal with having it. Only go 16/11/40 if you plan on poisestacking with the MLGS and not using combat spells, you have to pick one or the other and can't have both.

>decide to replay 2 with sots edition, initially played the regular version
fuck, after playing 3 and bb, this is just too slow and your character feels really clunky and unresponsive

>>183000330
>Only go 16/11/40 if you plan on poisestacking with the MLGS
That's the general idea. Do you know if the WA superarmor is affected by poise or is flat, like talismans? And does it work with leo? I heard some time that you could counter damage with lightning spears I think

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What went wrong?

>>183000760
-Is a longbow
-split damage
-WA is not the arrow rain

>>183000760
People forgot it was shit in 1 as well and were expecting something.

>>183000915
Not even the rapidfire from 1. Besides, you just know that if it was the rain, it would consume 20 of 99 arrows and each arrow would deal 10% of its normal damage

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>>182990174
I'd like for some covenants to be in some way linked to the game's endings or something substantial in the game's course.

The Darkwraiths in DS1 were a good example because while it did not require you to join the covenant, seeking out Kaathe and aiding Kaathe in finding the Dark Lord kind of worked in conjunction with the covenant of Darkwraiths.

So from that perspective I would like for some covenants to be linked into the game's endings or more substantial player choices and fulfilling duty / oathbreaking having significant penalties.

For example we could have your typical area defender covenant / Spear of the Church type covenant where a place near a hub kinda area is inhabited by an optional boss that's tough considering it's place in the game. So to gain kind of a shortcut / access through the zone you will either defeat the boss or swear to become a protector of that zone and after ranking up suffiently in the covenant you will be granted passage through without having to kill the boss and the boss itself will be covenant leader and offer dialogue after ranking up in the covenant, and can get summoned into the bossfight as the boss' aid. But if you break the covenant not only will you have to fight the boss but you will be pestered by the covenant members' invasions even after the boss is dead.

So when you are in the covenant you will kind of get access to a "new hub" where the pve is not hostile, you get access to a new trader / NPC and that kinda thing.

>>183000641
The WA hyperarmor is affected by poise yes, all WAs are and only Talisman WAs and Perseverance have flat poise unaffected by it. Moonlight Vortex's poise health is 35 compared to the 21 poise health of the regular 2HR1s which is one of the highest poise modifiers on any attack. You can trade with great hammers easily with it if you have above 20 poise.

>>183000370
>muh adhd can't take this gimmie my jittery rollfest back

>>182995446
lemme guess, you've never been parried before right?

oh yeah that's because you're a scared little bitch who uses faggy fat hammers and shit and who always loses to anyone who isn't stupid enough to trade hits with your dumbass while you swing blindly about

>>183000641
>>183001347
Oh and Leo Ring only works with the physical damage of weapons so it wouldn't work with MLGS or Spears. I don't think Moonlight Vortex counts as thrust damage since it isn't listed in the damage types of the MLGS.

>>183001254

Even if it was ass tier damage, assuming it lingers at least half as long as the real thing it would have the same utility as crystal hail or floating chaos

Also pharis bow has more AR than darkmoon on a 40/60 dex/int build and that's not split damage. Darkmoon is absolutely bottom tier hot garbage with no use in any build at all

>>183001467
Thanks mate. I'll try to test the counter thing later.

>>183001443
>oh yeah that's because you're a scared little bitch who uses faggy fat hammers and shit and who always loses to anyone who isn't stupid enough to trade hits with your dumbass while you swing blindly about

ultra great sword/hammer/axe users in a nutshell

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>opponent is using terrible meme weapons
>if you win, you're a tryhard
>if you lose, you're a turboshitter

>Want to look like a warhammering Paladin
>No greathammers that don't look like a giant turd

>>183001648
that makes me wonder

does lingering dragon crest ring extend the length of crystal hail/floating chaos? i'm guessing no

>>183002361

Great Mace is love

>>183002361
Go play WoW you faggot

>>183002017
If you win you're just doing your job.

>>183002017
Pull out your own terrible weapons

>>183003068
>opponent hornet ripostes you with another weapon
>points down like he actually done something
no respect

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>>183002017
Yup, and I got no victories in the DaS2 BoB arena using the BKGA

Managed to get some wins with Butchers powerstanced with Gyrm Axe

>>183003068
>invade a ganksquad
>ass-slam the host's two butt buddies systematically
>drain the host of every estus they have remaining
>a connection error has occurred
is there any better feeling?

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>>183003803

>>183004084
Literally just happened to me, I came

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I made a super fun build in DaS3 that made me want to play the game again, but the character is SL128 for some asinine reason (haven't played in a while). Should I just level to 140 or leave it?

>>183004435
I'd say leave it who cares if some meta autist cries. Although I will say I have a 145 build that I have some good fun with.

what equipement load should I stay on in DaS 2 SotFS? I'm not wearing particularily heavy armour currently at about 52% load, and wondering if going just under 70% is going to make a difference?

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Post your high skill webms

>>183004435
if you want to get as much extra levels as you can you can go to 133 and still fight SL 120 people

or 138 since almost everyone goes to 125 these days

>>183004574
Yeah. I can't really remember why it was 128. Probably pumped vit for fashion reasons or something. I heard that 140 was another regularly seen SL tier, so I figured that I would ask, but I kind of don't really see that much of a reason to level it that much further aside from just getting fatter.

>>183005180
I probably wouldn't mind it. My stats are kind of all over with this bizarre dark-infused Zweihander pyromancer knight set-up, but I'm having too much fun with it. Kinda feels dickish to be greedy with levels, but it's also dark souls, so whatever.

>>183004890
50 or below is advised for most builds, you still get the fast roll on 70 but you get far less roll distance and your overall stamina regen speed is slower.

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>>183005009
>Race to mash r1.
>Opponent wins.
>Opponent runs out of stamina before you die.
>Your turn.
>Opponent dies before you run out of stamina.

That's actually perfect.
I want more high skill webms.

>>183005628

Why the Zweihander over the Astora Greatsword if you don't mind me asking? The WA?

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>Trousers of the dark witch Karla.
>These stained trousers are torn and odorous, telling of a long journey and even longer imprisonment.
>It would be madness to wear such a thing.

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>>183005009

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>>183005723

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>>183006226
mmh, that's it baby.

>>183006085
>Draw

Nice

>>183005676
below 50 because that's a threashold, or does it change slightly with each percent? With 52% I can have some fashion, lowering it to below 50 would ruin it

>>183005734
Zweihander has lower overall stat requirement, and I really like the two-handed overhead r2--it kind of feels like having both a vertical and horizontal UGS in one set. I catch a lot of people with it. If I want a poke, I drop to one-handed and also get melee pyromancy options like flame fan and black flame.

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r8 this build

>>183006623
Below 50% is a threshold. That's where your roll distance improves. Stamina recovery is linear I believe.

>>183007059
>using the hot wings
>literally no Endurance

>>183007554
It doesn't matter how much endurance you have with the chicken wings, nearly all of its combos will leave you without any stamina left. The ones that will leave you with extra stamina for a roll still work at 20 end.

>>183007893
should've invested in some more adp sweetie ;)))

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what do i need to complete the look, /dsg/?

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>>183007358
>tfw we got those shitty bird fetuses instead of these sexy crows in 3

>>183008067

kek

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>>183007893
I had something similar happen to me. I think the giants are just fucked up for some reason.

>>183008247
LGK has a grab?

>>183008309

I have literally never engaged the giants in melee combat for this reason, I either use magic or a bow or just sprint past them

>>183008247
>Mirror Squire gets ragdoll-impaled by LGK's sword during the death animation
Wat.

>>183008247

he's just protecting his minion from the other minion who has gone rogue

I'm playing one of the DaS2 DLCs. I made it to The Lair of the Imperfect, but I don't know where to go from here. Is there a cave or something in here I'm missing?

>>183008623
from the bonfire you want to head north east

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>guy summons me for duel at pontiff
>hit him
>he chugs, chugs, chugs
>make short work of him
>i refuse to chug
>i point down

>summons me again
>hit him
>he chugs, chugs, chugs
>parry him and finish him off
>i refuse to chug
>i point down

>summons me yet again
>i hit him
>he goes through literally 14 estus
>i refuse to chug
>finally kills me with an 1/8th of my life left
>he points down

Sometimes i don't even know if these people are for real. Had a good laugh anyway.

>>183007705
These broken sword backstab hackers are weirdly common

>>183000330
>have to pick one or the other and can't have both.

Fuck you. I can do what i want

>>183008872
Don't know how I missed that. Thanks for helping my blind ass.

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>it's okay when Miyazaki does it

redpill me on curved swords

>>183009754
They hit the prostate better.

>>183009726
first attack looks like artorias

>>183009895
>tfw dragon stones are dogshit in ds3
>tfw no covenant in ds3

sometimes I just run around archdragon peak and invade so I can pretend that fromsoft cares about me

>>183009754
God-tier moveset only limited by range which is why the longer range ones are the best.

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>Jester T**mas pulls out the 99 int/fai longsword

>>183010273
This remains one of my most-hated areas in all of the Souls games, next to Iron Passage.

SotFS, where can I farm sunlight medals? I rarely get summoned, and only need 10 more

>>183011331
Falconers and those big guys that throw dark orbs at you I think.

>get summoned to fight Midir
>it's a host keep running behind him attacking his tail making him spin so you can't hit his head episode

>>183011331
Don't even attempt to farm them, drop calculations are completely fucked in 2. Co op them if possible.

>>183006623
Below 50 isnt a threashold the other anon is full of shit
It scales linearly from 0-100%, the only breakpoints being the different roll animation at 70 and no rolling at 100, around 50 is usually preferable

>>183010420
Jester Thomas actually uses a Shortsword. Which is funny because you will never ever see a player use a Shortsword because the Longsword exists.

>>183010420
>>183012242
It's a claymore.

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>frigid outskirts
Tanimura, why?

>About to combo some shitter to death
>1 shot for 1250 HP with Irithyll Rapier
His world his rules, rite? :^)

>>183012313
So you can finally camouflage yourself with the white phantom ring when invading

Why the fuck are the DS2 NPC invaders so goddamn tanky?

I come from the scorpion boss in the windmill, literally 6 shots with soul spear, and then this retarded invader "armorer something" shows up in Iron Keep, spams soul spear spell like no tomorrow, and takes literally no damage in return, not from Soul Spear, and not even from a full combo from my +9 magic mace.

The fuck is that shit. I don't even care for how hard it is, it is just tedious bullshit to go through, and 1 fuck up usually means I die, so having to go through 6 soul spears and like 20 combos to kill him, makes it super infuriating when you die after getting him low.

That NPC invader from the poison area below the city was the exact same, but at least he used a slow ass sword, so it wasn't actually a fight you could lose, but why did they feel it was necessary to inflate their defences so much? It is just boring as hell.

>>183012313
Just run past it.

>>183012761
The only person I couldn't 1 shot with a backstab from my str/fai greathammer of justice was Maldron and I still took 80% of his life

>>183012932
So it is just magic that they have a million resistances towards?

How should an otherwise pure sorcery character deal with that? Any good weapons I could pick up that scales well with Int without doing magic damage?

>>183010420
Oh God I remember that fight.
>super difficult with the perma poison shit going on
>summon Thomas
>He just face tanks the boss and the poison, and doesn't give a shit about any of it.
>I get in a few hits and otherwise spend most of the fight healing the poison.
That NPC was actually insanely good, and practically soloed the boss for me.

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IS 1400 ENOUGH HP FOR A META 120 BUILD?

please help senpai..

>>183013998
Unembered? 39 vigor with favor and life+3?

>>183014182
Unembered, vigor 40, life ring +3 and favor +3

>>183013998
If you have to ask, I assume you mean 1400 embered, meaning you have 27-30 VIG.

If so, nope.

>>183012761
>shoot magic projectiles at the NPC who's clearly also built as a mage and thus has high resistance to magic
>"Why isn't it working guys!"

>>183014270
if it's unembered it's plenty

>>183013729
There's just something about a homicidal pyromaniac in a clown suit that makes it great. Even better is the "This One's Me" gesture he performs on invading.
I'm convinced there's far more to Thomas than we perceive. He's a summon in Earthen Peak and an invader in Shulva. He's capable of using Forbidden Sun, the big pyromancy, kept secret by Aldia and friends for its sheer power, and he tosses it around like a pebble. Was he a jester for the Old Iron King, and learn pyromancies through Eygil? Or the Desert Sorceresses? And why is he in Shulva?

>>183014739
Thomas is actually Salaman the master pyromancer.

Are NG+ rings tradeable?

>>183014981
You know what, why not. Maybe Carmina is the queen of the Desert Sorceresses or something.

>>183015162
Yes

>>183014739
Jester Thomas is actually Ceaseless Discharge

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Why is this allowed?

>>183014552
Literally said it applied to all NPC invaders.

The invader Merciless Roenna and the invader from that cancerous area with poison spitting statues is just as resilient towards magic, and both have a fuckton of health even compared to the bosses in the same areas. Neither are casters.

>>183015274
He never died after being lured off that cliff, he just changed form.
I feel like if we threw Thomas into the Kiln of the First Flame, we'd set the world back to the beginning of the Age of Fire, right when Gwyn and friends finished hunting the dragons.

>>183015490
Because it's awesome

>>183013109
Shoot at head, most of them have 3k HP, they are one time enemies who don't respawn, you are supposed to waste resources and effort on killing them

>>183009163
holy shit I never knew that part collapsed

>>183015723
>you are supposed to waste resources
Literally can't waste resources. All spells and estus used can be instantly regained from a bonfire.
>Effort on killing them
Effort =/= pointless grind

Spending 10 minutes wailing on an enemy, that can one-shot you, is not effort. It is not about skill or proper gearing or stat distribution. It is just boring.

>>183016074
>10 minutes
If it takes 10 minutes to kill a 3k hp enemy your doing something wrong.
Again those are non respawning enemies who give you human effigies, the entire point is that they are supposed to actually take effort to kill. Learn to use binoculars

What's SM meta in SotFS? Also, am I just expected to always waste a ring slot for the agape ring?

>>183016853
4.9 is the "don't go higher" breakpoint, but a 4.9 host can summon phantoms up to 19.9 mil.

What the hell is up with people summoning on iron bridge and then fighting me 2 v 1? Is that a thing or have I just gotten unlucky?

>>183016853
30-45 mill to get the largest range of activity

>>182997269

>>182998339
>>182998150
>>182997456
shut up guys, I think it's funny

is Revan619 the most obnoxious pvp youtuber

>>183017275
>caring about youtubers and streamfags

it's like namefags and trolls, don't say their names and don't give them attention

>>183017096
don't you mean 3-4,5 mil?
Because that seems very high.

>>183017019
Damn, I've stopped at around 2,6 mil and 155 SL, I guess with that much I can go up to 180-200 SL?

>>182997269
>>183017198
pls use Wilhelm's leggins instead

>>183017431
if you're dueling redditors, stay at that level. 90% of players don't stop gaining souls arbitrarily, they keep playing. 30-45 mill will land you in between the highest tiers of activity.

>>183017431
His right, 4.9 is for people that don't want to see people too much above SL200, but 40-50 gives you an absurdly wide playerrange

The first time I fought Gaping Dragon I died like 10 times, it wasn't until a later playthrough when I explored the Depths that I found a Channeler was buffing it.

>>183017645
>>183017813
30-45 mil seems hhuge considering I've already finished the game and dlc's. Probably like 1-3 more NGs to get to that? But won't that mean that everyone will be leveled up into absurdity and have every stat on 50+?

>>183018072
wat

>>183018072
he also shoots at you while you're fighting the boss

that channeler is such a dick

>>183018080
It is huge because people just PvP, SM isn't really a thing you care about unless you want to coop a certain early game area and since even at relatively low SM tiers like 4.9 you can still be matched with someone who has 15 million more soul spent so people don't give a shit about the potential that the enemy might have a level advantage.

how do i get good at midir

>>183019151
Stay in front of him. Keep hitting his head.

>it's a guy wearing full havels and using a caestus and rapier

why did this make me laugh so hard

help me, /dsg/

>>183019667
Is he named Artorias?

>>183019151
this >>183019537
Also try staying in front of him and dodging back. Unless he does that autistic long combo, then roll underneath him on of of the attacks, and follow his left side, that's where the head will end up.

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Why does Laurentius going hollow hurt so much more than the other characters? He just seemed like a good guy who wanted to help with no ulterior motives.

>>183020070
That's exactly why it hurt. It's also because he would have gone hollow had he completed his journey (we reroute him to the Shrine after rescuing him in the Depths, when he was on his way to Blighttown), and we tell him about Quelana down there, essentially making it our fault. There's no reason to send him, just keep your pyro buddy at the Shrine where he belongs.

>>183020070
Because that, and because it's the only one that's entirely your fault.

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>>183020615
>>183020561
I don't want him to go hollow and lose that cheer and optimism, just sit around the bonfire and talk about pyromancy.

>>183021016
Then never send him to find Quelana, keep him sane and happy at the Shrine.

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Finding a good fashion set that has enough poise to make ultras not awful is a pain in the ass.

The fuck is with this diminishing returns bullshit with poise, and why does it have to start before 30? I just want to trade my UGS with another without looking retarded. Is that too much to ask?

>>183021534
get that dank wolf ring +3 if you're so worried

how good is crystal chime at 40/40?
does it come close to anything at 60, or is it just for utility? would throwing great farron dart, homing soulmass, projected heal, or lightning arrow on my pyro work with it, or is it better off just ignoring altogether?

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This sword was behind the time meant for it.

>>182985097
jesus fucking christ dude, kill yourself already

>>183023056
>FP restoring mechanic
>cannot be infused
>there are far better weapons to put buffs on
>one of the worst WAs in the game\
what's the point?

>>183023251
Pure Strike damage. In 2, it could have been amazing.

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>>183022996
Crystal Chime at 40/40 gets you results that are equal to or greater than most regular staves/talismen/chimes do at 50 or 55 of their primary stat. But you'll still be beat by a 60 Int/Fai CSS or Yorshka's.

>>183023123
Why you so mad though?

Why are so many people putting their summoning mark at Ringed inner wall?

>>183023573
Because that's where you can help people all the way through TRC, and where people think is the best spot to get to Midir.

>>183023749
Ah ok makes sense
Though for midir it would be simpler to put the mark in the room just in front of the hole

>>183024213
Some people don't think ahead. Others want to get summoned earlier so that they don't have to compete against two groups of people summoning for Midir (the ones at the bonfire, and the ones at the altar).

These games would be better without iframes.

How do i deal with fucking wizards in pvp? Bastards just cast blue balls and keep spamming darts, rolling away as i approach. 40 str, 39 vig, splitlif, midroll.

>start playing DaS1 again, try invading at church for keks
>invades
>player disconects
I HAVE ONLY 4 CRACKED ORBS C'MON

>>183024909
Offhand crossbow.

>>183025052
Collector's Edition, son. Give yourself 99 of the things.

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>>183025201
>using CE

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>>182986327
did you also platinum the game in 10 days?

>>183025569
I thought you were done with this joke already. Mind showing us the rest of the trophy count, maybe when you killed Gascoigne?

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Upper Blighttown gave me cancer

>>183025563
Enjoy not invading until you get to Kaathe then.

>>183025052
I was in a similar situation not too long ago except I was the one getting invaded and he disconnected as he was in my riposte animation. Dude was trying to twink with the Drake Sword :^)

What's the heaviest weapon you would consider using on a Dark build?

>>183026402
Dark Hand

>>183026402
Onyx Blade/Claymore.

Because for some fucking reason they're heavier than Astora.

>>183026402
Exile greatsword

>>183026628
Isn't the shtick behind the Astora GS that it's incredibly light?

WHY'S EVERYTHING GOTTA HAVE A HIGHER AR WITH SHARP

Just started Dark Souls this weekend. At the Gaping Dragon but haven't beaten him yet.

Is it odd if I die way more often from basic enemies than bosses?

Taurus Demon 2nd try
Bell Gargoyles 1st try
Capra Demon 1st try (watched a video first though)
Moonlight Butterfly 2nd try (died the 1st time for stupid reasons)

But I've died dozens of time to basic sword or spear undead because parrying is still hit or miss for me. Also I had to cheese the Giant Rat fight because he was just destroying me in melee.

What enemies/bosses are going to make me get really upset?

>>183027907
100% physical block medium shields are a thing. If mobs are killing you by dealing damage, then stop them from damaging you while you learn their attack patterns.

>>183008113
>tfw too intelligent

>>183027535
Refined was good once and it was awful
Heavy has the luxury of the 2H Strength bonus

So Sharp is allowed to big scaling if you gouge DEX to absurd levels

>>183008972
alluah akbar

Post items missing from DaS3 that would have made the game objectively better if they were included
>stone greatsword
>golem axe
>pursuer greatsword
>great lord greatsword
>fume sword
>sanctum shield
>disc chime
>heater shield

>>183025569
Did you really just take a picture of your TV? Lol. The PS4 can take screenshots you know.

How does poison work against bosses? I'm using it against slave knight gael, but i don't know how many times to strike, how long to wait, if i should keep using a poison weapon...

should i use a poison rotten ghru dagger, or a poison mace? i'm a STR build.

>>183029942
I think some people use that one staff to poison him

>>183029848
Remember this guy shitposting on /bbg/ awhile back? He's yet to prove in any way that he finished it in ten days, just ignore him.

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>Astora Greatsword, a weapon designed for thrust attacks, doesn't have the poke rolling attack other ultra greatswords have
I'll never get over this

>>183027907
Most DS1 bosses are'nt so tough, but there is a lot of fucked up places like Sen's fortress, that you are going to hate. And parry isn't obligatory, you may beat the game without parrying even once.

>>183029764
twinblades
heide greatlance
blue flame
great demon dual machetes
silver knight sword/spear with lightning WAs
bone fist
sanctum mace
Ringed knight paired UGS should have been Cool Ranch and Nacho Cheese smelter swords
the completed model for gold/silver tracer should have been used
Crypt Blacksword
Orma and Reeves
Yorgh's and Santier's spears
Channeler's Trident, though lothric war banner works, it isnt as fun
Gravelord Sword
Bewitched Alonne's Sword
Ivory King greatsword
Loyce Greatsword
Watcher/Defender Greatswords
Puzzle sword
Ivory straight sword
Balder Side Sword (LSS isnt as stylish)

>>183029764
Did you play the game, DS2 fanboy? There is fume sword.
>>183029942
Poison is almost useless. Toxin is better, but endgame bosses have sheer amount of hp and some are immune to it.