Dueling Network General - /dng/

>>182940842
Just realized after posting, thanks to whoever finally added Linux to the OP, I kept forgetting to when I made new threads.

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2nd for not submitting to the paywall lmao

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>tfw the only Lunalight with little to not fanart is purple butterfly
I mean she used to be a very questionable card to run in lunas but now with kaleido chick making her be a r4nk starter or a better blue cat 2x atk play. And she's also very cute.

>>182940842
Are yall interested in a YGO Stream or no? Me and a group of friends are dueling tag.

>>182941263
Why not? Link?

>>182940842
How do I make Phantasm spiral viable

>>182941263
ygopro?

>>182941370
Don't run the big guy who's name I can't remember and run Paleozoics

>>182941317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RzCYzK84uw

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>>182941370
Having tried the deck in many variations, I'd say wait until Master Peace isn't around, then run it mostly with Paleozoics.

>>182941478
What's the password?

>>182941478
technical difficulties coming from our streamer, should be back up soon.

>>182941263
>shilling like that
Rata....

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Looking back to paleozoic, i kinda wish we got an Xyz that used the trap monsters (think Metal reflect slime) or a synchro because of Shapesister is a thing, or just some better support for the trap monsters.

>>182941640
EU
pass is no
seach kyrosno
just stick to spectating for now, we'll have/start randoms up later on.

>>182941478
>all this rambilng

>>182941478
>No Thirsty comments towards any females in the call or chat. You know who you are.
>implying girls actually watch your dead stream
lol, white knights

>>182941478
>anime

>>182944082
Turned it back off for the next few duels.

we got a spot for one more. since the other guy/friend of mine went afk

Dont dissapoint me anon.

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Has anyone been testing this? I replaced my Cosmics with it and it's honestly pretty insane, almost a win condition. Going +1 for free, especially when you hit double Solemn or something, is normally enough to get my opponent to scoop.

>Hope Harbringer Dragon Titanic Galaxy on my partner's first turn
Wew lad.

New pass?

>>182944760
That was too short lived.
>>182945008
yeah its nou.

>>182941601
Good luck winning with only one Spiral Dragon. If you don't OTK your opponent they'll OTK you next turn, this deck has zero protection.

>>182945651
>zero protection
>all those Paleo and backrow, with Demise to draw them
You could even throw in Quakings/Drownings if you wanted.

>>182945719
No deck dies to backrow these days.

>>182945760
Idk what protection you're looking for then, anon.

>>182945805
3K+ ATK Monsters with immunities and quick effects. This deck doesn't have that so it's the definition of a glass cannon.

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Yes i am this much of a shameful faggot to bring zoodiacs into a fun-time stream, but that won't stop me from being ERECT

Well, yall scared them off.
>Friend A (Lets call him David) Game crashed although i know its a ragequit
And the streamer decided to call it a night too.

Personally im not mad. But why go for OTK's/loops tho?

I might stream myself tho. Yall wanna keep going?

>>182946279
Sure. Because we can

>>182946349
Aight. Gimmie a few minutes to set up.

>>182945898
Idk why you're complaining for effect monsters in normie.dek, I'm just giving that anon the best build of the deck I had. The traps make up for the lack of Drident/MP like popping, in a way.

>>182945898
That totally explain why Zood was tier 0.
Oh wait.

>>182945898
So by your definition, Great Magnus turbo has good protection.

Don't be retarded for the sake of pessimism like is so common in this community. Backrow (and hand traps) are and always have been the best form of protection.

>>182946664
>Not equipping your Drident with Thoroughblade and Viper
Pleb

>>182946472
>>182946731
The fact still remains that Normal Beatdown decks are weak where it hurts most; their monsters are painfully easy to get rid of. And this deck rolls over and dies once it loses its field spell, and killing field spells is the mainstay of the current meta. So, the obvious solution is running Spiral Dragon at 2, and attacking for game the first chance you get because you sure as fuck won't get another.

>>182946901
>1600+1200 > 3K
>immune to nothing
Hmmm

EU
search Kyrosno
pass is sword
(Mostly going to be single duels)

amd the stream is right here https://gaming.youtube.com/user/KyrosnoProductions/live havent started it tho
Feel free to request a song or two, call me a nigger, etc.

But no screen cheatin tho.

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Xth for Outer Gods support never EVER

>>182948230
no one?
ill head off to sleep then. perhaps another night then.and hopefully have everything fixed.

dead because links and mr4

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>>182954235
Waiting on good Links
Will be waiting forever

>>182954235
It's dead because I'm waiting to test out decks with links and percy hasn't updated yet.

so I found the sales figures to Konami of Japan's booster sales spanning from 2016 May to 2017 May. Im hesitant to post it though because it looks like it would completely destroy this thread and I don't want to start a console war.

>>182957702
We already know its poor sales this year. Only a retard would think otherwise

>>182957702
Are they good or bad? OCG only? I'd be weary of the source too since Konami never posts this info out themselves.

>>182957702
Post it you pussy.

>>182957735
They're better than your sales that's for sure.
>>182957759
Excellent actually. Both tcg and ocg.
>>182957849
Fuck you.

>>182957967
>fuck you
So you're full of shit then.

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>>182957967

>>182958182
Don't call me a pussy then, you shitstain.

>>182958207
I call you what I want you pussy.

PERCYYYYYYYYYYY

update ygopro already you cunt

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Anybody got crawler memes?

What deck does the best job of spamming out Rank 9 plays? True Draco? MPB?

>>182961374
Cloudcastle turbo

>>182955643
Why is it that even if japs can't draw professionally they can still draw nice tits

>>182961374
Ancient Gear Reactor Dragon Turbo with some Deep space cruiser 9s can pump out Rank 9s fairy quickly

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Why the fuck have I never seen pic related used? It looks like Side Deck gold.

>>182963182
Maybe if you're playing against Ojamas.

>>182963182
Because you waste your normal on it and it only targets 3 or lower shitters

>>182963182
Because Xyz monsters don't have levels and no one leaves a bunch of low level monsters on the field.

>>182963278
Because there's been meta decks that had mostly low levels?

>>182963321
That leave them there on your turn? Oh sure lemme just tourguide out something and leave it there so my opponent gets to double summon tribute sack my ass with some niche card I've never heard of

Is there any other cards I should add besides Grass to make a 60 card deck more viable?

>>182963485
Just run as many 3 ofs as possible and mash in as many engines as you can like brilliant

>>182963485
Left Arm Offering.

>>182963182
>not sending it to the graveyard then reviving it with black garden by summoning predaplant squid drosera then nuking it and the token so you can steal every monster your opponent controls that has a level

Links are doing a good job on the game balance overall. Funny thing is that none of you can't prove it wrong.

>>182963780
the current ocg meta (true draco / invoked / dinosaur) proves you're wrong and that nobody likes links.

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>>182963779
I think you forgot this.

>>182963879

400+800, both plants = black garden summons PDS from the graveyard, squid triggers. tribute PDS for it's effect

works perfectly.

>>182963182
it's just for spicy predaplant memes

>>182963837
The current ocg meta is better than the metas we had in at least 1 year.

>>182964317
it's the SAME meta they've had for the last year minus zoo

>>182964383
And that's better.

>>182964317
It's the same.

Every deck from DUEA is really cheap except Shaddolls.

>>182964483
There's no zoo.

>>182963780
>Funny thing is that none of you can't prove it wrong.
Funny thing is you're right, because no matter what anyone says you will never reply "Oh yeah, I'm wrong then." Twat.

>>182964994
Woop dee fucking doo.

>>182963182
i mean if skull servants are dicking you that hard sure

>>182964474
How?

>>182962306
Japs can draw fine

>>182965003
Of course, because I'm not wrong.
>>182965220
No zoo.

>>182962306
>draw two ovals
>shadow
wow so hard

>>182965406
That's like taking out a tumor and wrapping things up when there's 5 more to get out.

>>182965406
>Of course, because I'm not wrong.
I knew you'd say this you idiot.
What I'm saying is that no such statement exists such that if it were true you would admit to being wrong, which is why you are a bellend.

>>182965276
Not really proportions are way off most of the time.

>>182965601
So, better?
>>182965612
But it's true.

>>182965736
>art must always be perfectly proportional and never allow any creativity
kek. Beyond that, what are you basing this off of?

d e a d g a m e

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>>182966835
Not on my watch!

there's no way your guys deck all died with link format, unless you play something like super quantum, even synchros and pendulums are alive with mr4

just makes it feel like spoiled bitching desu

Have you accepted that SPYRALs are great yet?

>>182967406
Quickly, someone post that screenshot.

>>182940987
Synchros honestly killed just as many decks as Links.
All of a sudden tuners and synchros were a requirement for decks not to be dogshit.

>>182967357
>>182967680
We approve of these posts and their contents.

>>182967680
but you could still play them unlike what links do

>>182967357
Not all, but certainly a lot. My favorite deck types were Pendulums and Synchro Spam, both of which were hit fairly hard. But my excitement to abuse Links outweighs my upset that some of my decks are invalidated. Or worse, the fucking cards I need to play the decks still aren't FUCKING IMPORTED TEWART WHERE IS MOONFLOWER AND THE REST OF THE SUPERHEAVY SAMS

>>182966689
>creativity is the excuse bad artists use
You can be creative but skipping the basics is a good sign for a bad artist.

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>>182967357
You know what'd help with me bitching? If I could actually test out Link engines in my fucking decks PERCY I'M GOING IN BLIND HERE

Also I'm pissed that I'll have to wait god knows how long for the other attribute versions of Mastar Boy/Missus Radiant. And just hope something feasible to tech or splash in appears before then

>>182968217
That Jaden BR yugituber posted a YGOPro updated with everything new, including the new Parshart and it also has a english patch on it.

Leaks?

>>182968451
>Parshart

>>182967968
You still aren't citing sources shitposter. And you're pretending as if though the rambling of autists like you matters.

>>182968487
Leaks are usually on Japanese Friday/our Thursday, no? You gotta wait a bit.

Thoughts on magibullets + artifacts?
I was looking for something to fill out the last few cards in my deck and they're all light-type too

>>182968487
Might get F.A. reveals today if we're lucky, probably nothing else though.

>>182967357
>unless you play something like super quantum, even synchros and pendulums are alive with mr4
Pendulums are fucking dead anon. But Synchros are doing more well in comparison to Fusion and Xyz.

>>182940842
How many cards are in the game so far?

>>182969097
More than a dozen

>>182969097
Should be about 8500

>>182968781
There's no in-archtype way of procing them in Magibullets, and until you do, you won't be able to use your Magibullet effects in that column.

Them being Light doesn't matter at all.

>>182968781
>>182969570
I threw in the Dark World field spell in mine, works okay. 300 to each stat is decently useful when all of the monsters' stats are so low, and it gives you some extra draw power in an emergency.

>>182969570
I was thinking Ignition to get off their effects and summon them up, with stuff like scythe adding additional control if I can't deathperado enough to stop plays
I guess I'll just stick with denko sekka then
Coming off of phantasm spirals the once per turn limits are a little annoying

>>182969097
About around 13000 if you count alt arts and ocg/tcg exclusives

>>182968616
Many art teachers promote this that is why I say it you can't skip the basics and expect good art wich it's what a lot of japanese artists do.

>>182971989
I can't say I agree based off what I've seen, at least in comparison to non-japs. This entire conversation is pointless though, so let me just apologize for my shitposting and autism wasting your time.

>>182972405
It's the same problem in the west.

All right /dng/
I have a challenge/timewaster for you
I want you to create your anime deck
Anime decks are pretty simple,just think of Yugi or Joey or Kaiba's deck and how much variation they had, but i'll go over some basic rules that I used when creating mine
1.40 cards. No more, no less
2.Your deck should not be defined by an "archetype". Use cards from all over the series, I'm not saying to not build support for particular cards but keep it loose so your support cards can help almost every monster in your deck.
3.Only use duplicates for cards that are built around having more in the deck, like Giant Germ or Disciple of Ra. Sure you COULD run 3 Dogder Dragons,or you could expand your horizons and find something that fills it's own niche
4.If a card is "too good" consider swapping it for something else. This is all up to you but I find it more rewarding to use Tribute to the Doomed over Raigeki.
5.Make it fun. Use that one card you thought was so cool when you were a kid, use cards that have fun effects, make it your own
I don't expect any of you to follow in my autistic footsteps but in a time where the metagame is fucking garbage I just want us all to have fun

>>182973763
>anime decks

The legacy support for Yugi, Kaiba and Joey brick and lose enough as is and now we're going to make them even more inconsistent on purpose?

No thanks, brick hands are the worst thing in this entire game.

>>182940842
I see a dick.

>>182974525
GG, thread deleted, nice going anon, that's the second thread deletion in a week.

>>182964896
arc-v's sets spoiled us into having multiple different summoning methods that even an arc-v deck (spyrals) can link summon better than any vrains deck.

>>182974709
Spyrals never appeared in arc-v though.

>>182974937
It was released during the arc-v era.

>>182974937
when i said arc-v set I meant series 9 set.

>>182974683
I see a pussy too

So if I wanted to make a water attribute deck aside from Cloudians, would Atlanteans be my best option?

>>182975880
atlanteans/mermail, paleozoics technically count, all-water phantasm spirals

>>182976184
All seem like fun or at least interesting options, as well as being fairly cheap. I'm trying to make decks for all the attributes and figured I'd start with water since it seemed the easiest. Wind seems like it might be kind of shit.

>>182978237
>they're all greed quasars which die to Links

DOA
O
A

>>182978237
wow they're shit

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>>182978457
>>182978237
I literally can't think of a reason to play GreedQuasar.dek

>>182978237
>They're Machine Duplication targets that are level 4
Pretty much the only good thing about them.

>>182978237
>or effect
These might actually be strong. Can you go higher than level 12 with shit like this?

>>182978237
>using Levels to simulate top speeds
that's actually really smart

>>182978237
I can't read this shit, someone have the text handy?

>>182978237
BUT LINK MONSTERS DON'T HAVE LEVELS/RANKS

>>182979054
>Machine Dupe targets
They'll be 1200 on summon faggo

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>>182978237
Sekrit Tek

That Macro Cosmos seems pretty good though, being literal Tower and stuff, and since Link is still pretty bad, I guess they can see play here and there.
On casual level, that is.

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>>182979054
>Machine Duplication
They're too strong for that thanks to their own effects.

>>182979086
Yeah you can. I remember seeing Inzektor loops on niconico that had monsters increasing their levels to the hundreds. Actually, speaking of which
>WIND Machines
>Level 4
>Machine Dupe targets
>can modulate levels
So they already can use Gigant and Chidori, they can also (technically) summon Nova/Infinity as well as any generic high-rank Xyz.

>>182979165
if they added link protection then none of em could do a thing

>>182979374
Actually scratch the Machine Dupe part, I read them as increasing their attack by 100 for each level, which would suck for running over anything.

>>182979131
The monsters increase their levels whenever an F.A effect activates and their attack is 300 x their level. Car is battle indestructable by monsters with level/rank lower than its own and if level 7+ can attack monsters twice. Motorcycle is immune to activated effects of lower levels/ranks and at 7+ banishes cards sent to the opponent's gy. Field increases levels by 2, OPT draw on opponent's monster destruction by battle, searches when it's popped except itself. Quickplay increases level of a monster by 2 until the end of the turn and can be banished for the same effect except for the turn it was sent to the GY

>he thinks we are getting a tcg exclusive ritual
It's the new link monsters you cucks. You've all been played.

>>182979615
>increases level of a monster by 2 until the end of the turn and can be banished for the same effect
DEJA VU

>>182979615
Thanks.

Sounds like they're fucked when confronted with literally any backrow.

>>182979615
>an F.A effect
F.A. S/T card or effect.
Meaning only if an F.A. S/T is activated, or an F.A. S/T's effect is activated.

Same wording as Titanic Hope

>Links didn't take off in TCG do Tewart had to make some
Does this retard actually think people will fall for this garbage?

>>182978237
>Fortune Ladies but worse
Ok

>>182978237
>people actually thought these were going to be good
They were clearly going to be the casual archetype.

>>182978237
alright this trash is out of the way reveal the ritual archetype.

>>182980235
Don't forget that the other one is going to be neo BA

>>182980335
>F.A. features the U.A. monsters, which were the TCG-exclusive counterpart to Burning Abyss
>Burning Abyss featured a Ritual monster
Really makes you think.

>>182980019
Memba Noble Knights?
I memba

Memba U.A?
I memba

Memba Subterror?
I memba

>>182980514
>demons on bikes
>motorcycle dante
might not be too bad

>>182980335
>archetype
>>182980514
not at all shiter

>>182980619
The new ones should have to do with purgatorio

>>182980624
>He still believes they're just making random new cards instead of following the 2 archetype pattern they've been doing since the start of Arc-V

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>>182980514
The ritual monster for BA is the worst support they've ever received aside from those bodies they never use.

Really activates the almonds.

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In other news buy Trickstars
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=8305

>>182978237
Holy fuck, these are mindblowingly bad. I can't even see how they can become good.

>>182980761
Nah, the Malebranche was literally just one tiny portion of Inferno, there's plenty more they could do.

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>>182940987
>ded game
>new record for Nats attendance
Rata here,
stop playing shitty petdecks, loser.

>>182980907
>WhyArentUaJewtuber.png

>>182980907
Leave elysium scum

>>182980907
>introduce Wyrms at the start of Arc-V
>they become good 3 years later when Arc-V ends

So will Cyverse stay bad until series 7?

Also, when do we actual dragons back into the meta instead of these Chinese rip offs?

>everyone hates the rule changes that links brought
>links aren't even good, 0 tops in the ocg now that zoo is gone

How long until the rule changes are reversed?

>>182980907
>Both denglong and master peace have a six-pointed star in their design
n-nani?

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>>182980821
>1 Secret
>3 Ultra

>>182981179
Literally never, if you unironically think they will you're retarded.

>>182981179
when they release a proxy dragon clone (2 monsters) with link arrows pointing down left and down right is when you'll know they gave up on the mechanic.

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>>182978237
sekrit tek

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>>182940987

Meanwhile, in the OCG...

>>182980820
>tfw the only BA you think is cool is shit

>>182980891
I just feel as if though it would fit more

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>>182981179
>How long until the rule changes are reversed?
3 years until Master Rule 5. Or maybe even shorter in case the sets bomb like crazy.

>>182981387
>Dino is beating out true draco
what

>>182981512
When your only notable cards are limited, it's to be expected

>>182981387

b-but you need to buy links if you wanna win! that's what /dng/ told me! are you telling me that /dng/ is full of shitters who have no idea what they're talking about?

>>182980891
Would rather have solomon's keys as an archetype now.

>>182981512
only one MP & Diagram

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>f-zero archetype
>it's absolutely worthless

>>182981179
Just delete EVERYTHING from post Goats and restart from there.

This entire franchise took a nosedive after the DM era and will possibly never that good again unless they get Kaz back for more DM.

>>182980907
We saved ocg? All is acording to konami keikaku, why do you think dinos and true dracos don't rely much of Extra deck monsters? Those decks are back ups in case Links shilling falls. Think about, magivullets dont need link spam, they just activate spell/trap cards from the hand.

>>182982114
>>>/dlg/

>>182982114
goats is the worst format

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>>182981860
only one solman allowed

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>>182982114
You mean the days where anybody was running 1900 vanilla beaters and later Chaos Decks?

>>182982387

retard caveman beatdown was never good, first good deck was hand control then chaos

>>182981741
It was if you want to play your petdecks. It's more just a funny coincidence what they did to the meta

>>182982114
The facts to back this up with are?

>>182982387

>goat control
>1900 vanilla beaters

sasuga /dng/

>>182982564
I can't understand why people love those formats so much
Like atleast today there is a liiiiiittle bit of variation between competetive decks
rather than everyone running a variation of chaos with just slightly different cards

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>>182982783

>a few petdeck shitters need to buy links

and nothing of value was lost

>>182983050

Goat control has different decks and variations you can use unless you play with exarion cancer

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>>182978237
Just realized that most of the reliable level-increasing effect only increases level by 1.
And the reliable level setting effect only last until the end of the turn, and mostly for Xyz setup, so you need another monster with high level already in the field.

That's disappointing.

>>182983068
Not in the sales department it's not

>>182983050
Variation is a meme, depth of gameplay is what matters.

>>182983254
>goat
>variety
That's like saying playing pendulum format Chain Burn is a completely different experience than Link format Chain Burn

>>182983481
Then those grandpa formats are still shit

>>182983481
depth of gameplay is a meme, variation is what matters.

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>>182983434

>>182983494

>chaos
>beatdown
>standard goat
>different variants of standard goat that runs techs like monarchs and phoenix
>weird dimension fusion shit

There's a decent amount of variance in goat control format.

>>182981387
>ABC 16%
What the fuck is going on?

>FA takes place in the UA world

>Are just as shit as UA.

So I'm trying to use The Dark- Hex Sealed Fusion's effect to summon Predaplant Chimera Rafflesia by tributing him and a dark monster but it's not working
Am I doing something wrong or does this just not work?

>>182984425
They got back their field spell at 2 and they got a new Link combo.

>>182984448
UAs were better than this off the bat (hue)

>>182984425

Dragon buster is a broken card. It's not as broken as the entire zoo engine but as a standalone card its easily up there.

When the zoo/draco killer list comes around it and toad has to go as well.

>>182984476
Needs to be a specifically-named material lad

>>182983890
F.A. Sonic Meister on field
F.A. field spell
F.A. Sonic Meister is level 5 now
give and take Jizukiru
F.A. Sonic Meister is level 15 now
destroy Jizukiru and attack with level 17 Sonic Meister
scenario that will never happen

>>182981179
When there isnt a relevant link in a another new set.

>>182984613
UAs didn't have Midfielder at first.

I dunno. With more support F.A. could be good. Mach is a maindeck darklaw basically. Right now they're pretty shitty though.

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F.A. Sonic Meister
Level 4 WIND Machine-Type Effect Monster
0/1000
Gains ATK equal to its Level x 300. Cannot be destroy by battle with an opponent’s monster whose original Level/Rank is lower than this card’s Level. Each time an “F.A.” Spell/Trap Card or effect is activated. You can increase the card’s Level by 1. If this card is Level 7 or higher, it can make up to 2 attacks on monsters during each Battle Phase.

F.A. Hang On Mach
Level 4 WIND Machine-Type Effect Monster
0/1800
Gains ATK equal to its Level x 300. Unaffected by activated effects from an opponent’s monster whose original Level/Rank is lower than this card’s Level. Each time an “F.A.” Spell/Trap Card or effect is activated. You can increase the card’s Level by 1. If this card is Level 7 or higher, any card sent to your opponent’s GY is banished instead.

F.A. Circuit Grand Prix
Field Spell Card
Increase the Levels of all “F.A.” monsters on the field by 2 during the Battle Phase only. Once per turn, when your “F.A.” monster destroys an opponent’s monster by battle: You can draw 1 card. If this face-up card on the field is destroyed by a card effect: You can add 1 “F.A.” card from your Deck to your hand, except “F.A. Circuit Grand Prix”. You can only use this effect of “F.A. Circuit Grand Prix” once per turn.

F.A. Downforce
Quick-Play Spell Card
Target 1 “F.A.” monster you control, increase its Level by 2 until the end of this turn. During your Main Phase, except the turn this card was sent to the GY: You can banish this card from your GY, then target 1 “F.A.” monster you control, increase its Level by 2 until the end of this turn. You can only use each effect of of “F.A. Downforce” once per turn.

>>182984801
That only makes it a bit better than Dark Matter.
And by a bit, I mean by 500 ATK.

Since Sonic Meister double attack can only attack monsters like Dark Matter.

>>182980907
Nats isn't using links retard!

>>182984929
They still had an actually good Field Spell and good monsters. This shit is garbage right out of the gate. BAs had good initial monsters, Kaijus were Kaijus, SPYRALs had QF and Big Red, Subterrors had Hidden City and Warrior... FA had jack shit in terms of GOOD cards and GOOD searchers.

>>182985109
>is activated. You can increase
>.
nani the fuck
is that supposed to be colon

F.A. FUCKING ASS

>>182980907
It's a new record because it'll be the last one before the game goes to shit. And you know that.

>>182985109
>activates field
>all of your F.A. is now level 7 in BP
>activates Downforce or its grave effect
>the selected F.A. is now level 7
Neat.

And who the fuck put "during your MP" restriction on Downforce grave's effect.
I want to turn on Hang On Mach on opponent's turn just by drawing Foolish Burial, damnit.

>>182985109
So how do these guys interact with Predaplants?

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>>182985109
This could be a neat card to use. Shame it's a trap though.

>>182986583
Same way everything else does.

>>182986903
Badly?

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>>182980821
With Konami of America doing articles on Code of the Duelist now and all of F.A. revealed by Europe it is only a matter of time before we get news on the other exclusives.

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>>182940987
>forcing a meme this bad

>>182987186
Powerful rebirth is probably my favorite CotH clone, I don't know why more people don't use it

>https://ygorganization.com/yugioh4ds/

>>182985746
>counter arguing without evidence or reasons
... dude, the criclejerking threads are on lebbit

>>182987965
didn't we already know all this

>>182987965
They already announced this, didn't they?

>>182987965
yeah, what about it?

>>182987606
Your proof to the contrary is?

>>182988007
Says the person trying to force a circlejerk.

>mere days ago I was content with being a SPYRAL player since the deck was entirely fair, extremely fun, versatile and overlooked
>suddenly way too good linkshill card drops
>Now everyone is riding the SPYRAL train and sucking its dick when just a few days ago they laughed it off

I don't give a shit about "special snowflake" syndrome, bandwagoners are terrible. In sports, fashion and especially Yugioh.

Now I have to find a different deck that people never expect but is still viable in its own right. Thanks Konami.

>>182988561
>he plays deck that are not meta and hate them when they become one
Are you like... retarded senpai desu?

>>182987965
>Told a retard months ago that the Odd-Eyes deck was the one that only had a 10 card Extra
>He tried to argue against it and say that Cybers were the 10 card extra
Moron

>>182988384
>Your proof to the contrary is?
take a look at pic related, none of those decks relay heavily on links to work, and on a side note, your casual deck was already shit before links, but if you really want to play with it there are plenty of "fun" rooms on duelingbook with the new master rule of "no synchros, no xyz, no pendulum, no monarchs, no nothing that can beat my ragingflamespriteturbo.dek"

>>182988883
And your point is?

>>182985109
Konami taking the slow down meme

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>>182988883

>>182988642

Meta is terrible though. This isn't DUEA era where you can be happy for anything that becomes viable. The meta is just a ratrace for the most consistently broken shit with no regard to unique playstyles or the soul of the deck. Not that the meta was ever a bastion of diversity but its even worse now. I'd hate for my favorite decks to become a part of it.

>>182989269
So you are telling me that you drop a deck you like entirely and even hate them just because it become meta?
That's not nice from you.

>>182989269
Just play duel links lmao

>>182989269
The shit you're talking about applied to DUEA too

>>182989382
I can understand the feeling in a way. Cards related to the deck are going to spike hard in price and people who shit on it are going to come running to the deck as if they weren't shitting on it before. Even if the deck doesn't become meta the prices will still stay spiked.

>>182985109
>it can make up to 2 attacks on monsters during each Battle Phase.
>on monsters
Can we stop this meme?

>>182989668
B-but muh fear of OTKs

>>182989668
Yeah sure just have 4200 damage from a normal summon dude hahaha

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I can't wait for links if it means shitters like these will leave.

>>182989382
Drop it entirely? Of course not. But once it becomes ubiquitous and so bastardized that it barely incorporates its original monsters its time to go.

I see how unreasonable it sounds but my game philosophy is just different. If,however, SPYRAL turns out to have several viable playstyles then I'll happily cling to it.

In your opinion how healthy will the meta be during Links first format?

>>182989636
The metafaggots show their true colors and the hypocrit is just being hypocrit. Tell me, when this has not happened before and where? It's always the same, not only for this game but for anything, people that only want to win waste all their resources for only the best of the best, and they hate anything (even not meta) that either doesn't give them the victory, or it's a worse deck than the one they got and they still lose it.
At the very least, if you have the entire deck, you don't have to worry about the prices because you already had those.

>>182989862
That can be prevented with an MST and on monsters with no protection

>>182989864
You should know that these shitters would hate anything that can summon more than two monsters with over 2k attack in a turn

>>182990026
Same as before

>>182989864
I mean, there are GOAT rooms on duelingbook, why waste time typing all that shit if the only shit you can play is summonedskullbeatdown.dek?

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COTD-ENSP1 Vendread Houndhorde
DARK/Zombie – Effect/3/0/2100
If this card is in your GY: You can discard 1 "Vendread" card; Special Summon this card, but banish it when it leaves the field. A "Vendread" monster Ritual Summoned using this card on the field gains the following effect. You can only use each of the preceding effects of "Vendread Houndhorde" once per turn.
●Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can target 1 Spell/Trap your opponent controls; banish it.

B-but it's not an archetype!

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>>182990272
>Ritual
OH MY MY

>>182990272
>ritual archtype
>archtype locked ritual support rather than generic ritual support
It's complete garbage.

>>182990272
>making anti pendulum shit when pendulums are kill
???

>>182990272
So how much do you want to bet that there will be an in-archetype Releaser?

>>182990435
>banish Diagram
>banish Barrage

>>182990427
>"Vendread" monster Ritual Summoned using this card

>>182990272
It's trash.

>>182990272
seems ok i guess, turns your rituals into tornado dragons. i wonder if the rituals will have actual effects or konami will make them all vanillas

>>182990435
It's anti True Draco and Zoo

>>182990272
>sneek peak promo archetype
we noble knights all over again
hope yall are happy

>>182990435
It works against any S/T thing that floats when destroyed.

>>182990638
Vendread is the other TCG exclusive archetype, with the promo they just get 5 cards per set instead of 4.

>>182990272

>been wanting to know what the fuck this does for so long
>its an archetype
>Now I want to know what the entire archetype does

God this shit never stops

>>182990272
Ritual zombies sound fun

>>182990272
Decent start. Theme of the archetype is banishing, it seems, with some discarding and level 3 because of fucking course BA's going to profit from this.

Most of the TCG archetypes are so bad. I'd rather they beef up old decks instead of pumping out this crappy filler.

>>182990272
Hope you guys are ready for Mezuki to get banned

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>>182990272
>Ritual

>>182990272
>Ritual zombies
My interest is piqued. If we get some necromancy ritual shit in this i'm fuckin hyped.

>>182990940
>BA's going to profit from this.
Are you literally retarded?

Or have you never read BA's drawback?

Well we have to see.
It's either
>NK tier (which means dissapointed)
>BA tier (which means annoying in a good way)
>Kozmo tier (which means annoying in a bad way)

>>182990951
But BA and Kozmo are good

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>>182990951
Because the legacy support they've made recently have been so good.

>>182990272
>level 3
>no effect to be used as the entire ritual cost
>has to be used on the field for the ritual bonus
>ritual materials don't float
unless the ritual spell draws cards for each monster used it's shit

>>182991117
That's two decks.
>>182991180
You know what? Konami is just shit these days. I don't know what's going on.

>>182991183
>no effect to be used as the entire ritual cost
I thought we understood that Nekroz was a mistake.

>>182991290
I don't get it either. We haven't gotten any good cards since Vrains' release.

>>182991112
its comboing all 3 with a promo start, "zombie", and banish

>>182991290
>these days
Good one

>>182990272
I hope the ritual spell isn't cucked out of pre-prep that would be very unforntunate and a sign of nekroz 2.

>>182991367
It worked, so how could it have been a mistake?
It's the only way you can make rituals good anyway.

>>182991290
Series 9 was too good, but Arc-V was really shit. So shit that they're doing the opposite did with Arc-V with VRAINS. So they're releasing bad cards and weak archetypes.

>>182991530
>archetype with multiple ritual monsters and probably multiple ritual spells
You know it's not gonna work

>>182990272
>Ritual Zombies
My solitaire is moving on its own.

>>182991081
PKBA doesn't exist anymore?

>>182991684
why not?

>>182991969
Because they're not going to name 3+ ritual monsters' names on a ritual spell, including ones from future sets, and the alternative would be one ritual spell for each monster and that's obviously shit too

>>182991867
PK actually has synergy with BA

some crappy level 3 zombie-type IN-THEME ritual support, doesn't.

Retard.

>>182992098
>You can discard this card; Add 1 "Vendread" ritual spell card from your deck or GY to your hand
Problem solved. Preprep.

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>>182992098
>and the alternative would be one ritual spell for each monster and that's obviously shit too

Or you know, only 2 ritual monsters but on the same ritual spell like the last ritual deck we got

>ONE card of the archetype revealed and people are already saying it'll be shit

>>182992254
>making an archetype's core cards clunky and awkward just to work with a random off theme support card
You're a genius
>>182992359
There's only one ritual monster in the set, and they're not going to give a theme with 4-5 cards in 4 sets only 2 ritual monsters

>>182992383
Remember when Drancia was revealed and people said Zoodiac were going to be shit?

>>182992432
>Making the rituals never dead, no matter what ritual spell you have
>Trying to justify not wanting the best piece of ritual support to work with the deck.

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Remember when this card got a price spike with Shinobirds were first revealed?
Only has one printing, I'm ready for another price spike.

>>182992573
gonna sell my play set soon it seems.

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>>182992573
>that $1000 buyout for a deck which still has zero tops.

>>182992706
that wasn't real and got debunked

>>182992383
/dng/ is full of scrubs, what's new

>>182992432
>and they're not going to give a theme with 4-5 cards in 4 sets only 2 ritual monsters

I guess so, even Nekroz has 9 rituals and Cyber Angels have 5 rituals.

The problem will be how do they handle the ritual monsters and the ritual spells.

Weren't they supposed to be done with these TCG exclusives with SPYRALs and Subterrors?

>>182993029
>Weren't they supposed to be done with these TCG exclusives with SPYRALs and Subterrors?
Who the fuck said that?

>>182992542
You have to cover your bases somehow. Before all the cards got revealed, every shitter on ygo was playtesting it and probably helped shaped public opinion.

>>182992706
Does anyone have the version of this gif with the Life Point counter hitting 0?

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>>182993354
I do but my YGO folder is currently this big and I ain't looking. This isn't even all I have between unsorted and on PC.

>F.A. are fucking garbage
I can't wait for another true draco and zoo meta.

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>>182993354

>>182993807
thanks

>/dng/ plays shit deck
>can't beat meta decks
>ygo sucks, ded game, bad sales
>link summons make sure to filter the bad decks from the good decks even more
>they killed most of the decks and the game with this
>meanwhile good decks still are playing and players are having fun

>>182992383
>how dare people theorize over new cards

>>182994114
>Players are having fun
I met very few Zoo players at Nats who actually enjoyed Zoo mirrors. Only the TD friends seemed to be having fun.

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>>182993807
Is that based on pic related?

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>>182994240
No clue but why the hell is this a vanilla?

>>182994114
We approve of this post and its contents.

>>182994240
Disintegrating from being blasted by energy is a very generic visual effect

>>182994405
Man GX era fusions were awful.

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>>182990272
>that card art
Im going to play this

>>182994405
Gee Ecks

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>>182995037
#NotallFusions

post yfw:
>all Vendread monsters are level 3
>all of them have GY related effects
>you can bypass the "but banish it when it leaves the field" by Xyz summoning
>Dante helps fill the grave to enable plays

>>182995293
What if they had their own Dante? Or card trooper I guess.

>>182995293
PK zombies will be a thing.

>>182995293
Dante will NEVER DIE

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>>182995564

>>182994114
>Buahh someone is different from me

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>>182995564
>>182995693
careful

>>182995693
Has Burning Abyss topped since then?

>>182995513
Eh, they need their normal summon in order to buff their Ritual. Running the Knights will only conflict with that.

Uni-Zombie, Gozuki, Theseus and the hippo engine seem more worthwhile.

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>>182995921

>>182995564
>>182995693
The worst meme ever made by Konami

>ywf vendread was designed specifically to make it so Theseus isn't shit

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>>182996209
>>182996209

>>182996276
How does Houndhorde synergize with Theseus?

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>>182990272
bruh

>>182996686
They're both Zombies, so Omegas for days with Mezuki.

>>182996854
>but banish it when it leaves the field