/fog/ - Fallout General

So say there was no great war, no nukes, no nuclear apocalypse, what would life be like after 2077?

>>182921132
Boring.

>>182921165
Why do people like her? Shes litetally a disgusting druggie that always gets into trouble, also, she looks like a common whore

>>182921132
shit. go to the boston bugle building and take a read at the newspaper.

interment camps, mandatory curfew, rationing etc.
that advanced power armor? used on the streets for riot control.
the army was on the streets and basically got a free pass to shoot anyone they didn't like.
the goverment basically stopped trying to run the country and just hid on their bunkers, wating for the apocalypse.
not only was the goverment experimenting on people with all sorts of unethical things, they also let corporations do the same.

tl;dr worse than a 3rd world shithole

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Reminder that Robert House is the greatest hope for Mankind and every other choice made in the Mojave is inferior.

>>182921393
^This

Even if the Great War didn't happen, the belief that it was, along with the resource shortages/resource war, had turned basically every major country into a third world shithole under martial law.

Even without the nukes, there would have been total civil breakdown due to the lack of resources able to sustain the current level of civilization.

Everything would have degraded over a century or two at least, to make up for it.

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>>182921132
Fascism, but with a 50s aesthetic. See >>182921393


>>182921296
The line is "Cait an uggo and a shit. A shit!" Props for trying though. And don't you insult my waifu, that's heresy. See >>182849137 and >>182849872 Caitfag says it better than I can.

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>>182920932
The bos are one of the few fleshed out sensible factions in 4. While I don't always agree with them I understand why they do things.

The mm make sense in some areas and are pants on head retarddd in others. I can understand why they need a strong figurehead, but they have zero contingency for when that figurehead dies. The whole thing unravels when the ss dies.

The rr is retarded and beats everyone over the head with anti slavery shit. They even give the sin of justifying the tute with libertalia.

The tutes goal makes sense but everything they do to accomplish it makes zero sense. For a collection of the most intelligent people in the commonwealth they do the most retarded shit then have the gall to ask "why" the commonwealthers don't just leave them alone wwhen the tute fuck with the surface constantly.

>>182921640
Umm no, sweetie. You see, he's a white male, and that's problematic. We need a strong, vibrant ghoul of color to lead the Mojave into a prosperous, diverse, multicultural society where Cesar's Legion, the NCR, and all the lovely tribes of the Mojave live in love and harmony!

>>182921393
>>182921719
Just think, when our world runs out of oil...

>>182921640
>House
>A good choice
>when everything he has done since waking up from his coma has made zero sense
Uh huh.

House is, bar none, the worst choice, in New Vegas.

>>182921861
Who are you quoting?

>>182921792
>The tutes goal makes sense but everything they do to accomplish it makes zero sense
Everything they do to accomplish their goals makes perfect sense.

I would honestly like to hear what you think they do that doesn't make sense.

>>182921296
I don't particularly like her but I like that caitfag is so dedicated to her. Makes me want to wish caitfag all the happiness I can befalls her and Cait. In my head caitfag and piperfag live in the same world, with piperfag tending the publick with piper and caitfag leading the mm with Cait as her second.

>>182921792
>The whole thing unravels when the ss dies.
Not really

The last general died like 40 years ago, yet they still remained an organized faction that whole time.

It wasn't until Quincy, which happened the year the game takes place, that they finally collapsed, and they only officially collapsed for a few months before reforming under the SS.

Everything rises, falls, and then rises again.

We see this exact same shit in every pre-war nation, and veen post-war ones like the NCR.

Saying they don't have any sort of sustainable system only underscores the whole point behind Fallout, which is that civilization isn't sustainable.

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>>182922013
>we need pre war DNA
>we find a vault full of prewar DNA that could have a lot of medical uses
>let's kill them all except the baby and one parent
>we want the outside world to leave us alone
>we will accomplish this by fucking with the outside world constantly like poking a bees best
>we want to test a new crop
>instead of giving the seeds to Warwick let's body snatch him then plan to kill the whole settlement once the experiment is done

>>182922013
>Everything they do to accomplish their goals makes perfect sense.
The last time you said this you were laughed out of the thread by absolutely everyone.Do we really have to go through that song and dance again?

>>182922275
True the last general died 40 years prior, but the whole thing was unraveling since his death. Quincy didn't happen over night, it was inevitable. If the ss dies the mm won't turn to shit the next day, but it again is inevitable.

>>182922442
Why did kellogg kill the wife (player as male ofcourse) when he technically wasn't supposed to kill her?

>>182922574
and what's to say they don't create a contingency if the SS dies? That they can't learn from their mistakes in the past?

>>182922643
He just hates women.

>>182921165
I love her nipples

>>182922643
Because the plot demanded it. It's the only logical explanation as to why a trained professional killed an unarmed woman who had both her hands on a baby and made no threatening moves. Hell she only retreats further into the cryo pod, both hands still on the kid. The only reasonable explanation for the whole thing is the plot demanded it.

>>182922442
>let's kill them all except the baby and one parent
Actually, as mentioned, both parents were supposed to be kept alive.

Also, the FEV they used was tailored to Shaun's DNA, making anyone else but his parents, who shared similar DNA, nto a viable backup.

They also had all the records of Vault-Tec(which is how they found out about Vault 111, and Shaun, in the first place, and would thus know of any medical issues they had)

>we will accomplish this by fucking with the outside world constantly like poking a bees best
If you listen to the Director's recording from back during the time of the CPG and the Broken Mask Incident, after the fall of the CPG, the Institute spent the next 40 years doing nothing but hiding underground, staying totally out of the affairs of the people of the surface.

Despite that, the people of the surface kept thier own paranoia alive, and blamed the Institue on everything that happeend, even when it wasn't thier fault.

The Broken Mask Incident shot surface paranoia to new levels, and forced The Institute's hand into having to fuck with the surface to keep them too divided to allow them to attack The Institue.

Its actually a rather tragic story because The Institute had to become the evil the people of the surface thought they were, in roder to defend themselves against the previously baseless paranoia that they were evil.


>instead of giving the seeds to Warwick let's body snatch him then plan to kill the whole settlement once the experiment is done
Why on earth would they just GIVE Warwick the seeds, when anyone who does that would be seen as an Institute spy or w/e, and Roger would have thrown them out out of fear of
>MUH INSTITUTE!

You are acting like the people of the surface are shown as reasonable, and well adjusted, people.

They are not.

>>182922696
Because the only way that makes sense is if the ss sets it up. The mm suck as a faction because they are the only group who don't exist with out the ss. The bos would still do bos shit without the ss, the same for the rr and the tute. Only the mm hinge on the ss.

>>182922643
Because it was an accident, as mentioned like three times in the game.

He didn't mean to shoot to kill, he pointed the gun at her to scare her so she would let go of Shaun.

>new game with Horizon installed
>get to red rocket
>molerats pop out
>rek my shit
>hop on top of car so they cant attack me
>molerat burrows out of ground directly beneath me, causing the car to rocket into the air at 200 mph
>die instantly from the car atomizing me
IT JUST WERKs

I have absolutely no idea about what I am doing. Game started to crash when saving. I thought I was the Commonwealth Spawns mod, which was bloating the save files to 59mb, but I removed and it still continues to crash.

Pls help.

https://pastebin.com/isM0Ty0j

>>182922963
And where is the problem with that?
Is the SS doesn't join the minutemen, they fade away, and if he does, he works to make sure it doesn't all come crashing down if he dies. Sure it will eventually, but so will all factions.

>>182923032
You expect me to believe a trained shooter, who should know when to shoot, and how to keep calm under such conditions, "accidently" shot an innocent woman who, pretty much, would have cooperated if they letted her carry the baby.

>>182922924
Except the fact that prewar DNA could be useful outside of fev.

Even if all that shit were true and the tute were the innocent people they claim to be there's a reason why the saying you catch more flies with honey then vinegar exists. If you want the outside to trust you and not fuck with you being nice pays more dividends then fucking with people.

And why would you have to tell Warwick that you are from the tute? Send a synth posing as a trader and tell him about this new crop that is performing well even under subpar settings and any real farmer would pick up some of the seeds to try it out.

>>182923032
Are you saying the 100+ year old merc that has been fighting and killing almost his whole life shot a woman in the head by "accident" at a range of, what like 4 feet? He even says in his memories that killing her was better than taking the kid and leaving her alive.

>>182923253
Are you syaing misfires, even by trained mercs/soldiers, never happen?

Also, Kellog very likely did mean to shoot... but not her specifically. He likely shot to hit the side of the pod to scare her to cause her to let go of Shaun, her struggling an erratic movements caused her to get in the way of the bullet.

>>182923407
If he was trying to scare her with a gunshot he would've just shot it towards the roof, mot to mention given some time, she would've noticed the gun pointed at her

>>182923407
Anyone who is a trained professional like Kellogg doesn't misfire like that. Only in shitty fiction would a pro fire to scare someone in any direction where the bullet could connect. If you wanted to scare her why not fire at the ceiling or anywhere but right fucking beside her where she could catch the bullet?

Kellogg kills her because the plot demands it, not because it makes any sense in the game. We are lead to believe Kellogg is a pro merc, yet he acts as green as fresh grass in this one scenario. It's okay if you want to buy the bullshit excuse that it was an accident, but expecting anyone else to buy that is retarded.

>>182923306
>Except the fact that prewar DNA could be useful outside of fev.
For what?

The Institute are not geneticists, they are robotics people, they literally don't give a flying fuck about pre-war DNA outside of making synths.

>If you want the outside to trust you and not fuck with you being nice pays more dividends then fucking with people.
They did do that, they spent 40 fucking years doing just that, staying totally out of the affairs of the surface after the fall of the CPG, and people STILL blamed them for everything.

stay out of the affairs of the surface does nothing, because they The Institute was always a convenient boggyman for the people of the surface to blame.

Even if the Institute had died off in the 40 years between the Fall of the CPG, and the Broken Mask Incident, people would STILL be blaming them for shit by 2287, becuase the people of the surface have no reason to not blame them.

>And why would you have to tell Warwick that you are from the tute? Send a synth posing as a trader and tell him about this new crop that is performing well even under subpar settings and any real farmer would pick up some of the seeds to try it out.
>This trader I never met before, and never heard about ,gave me this crop that's doing well, despite the fact I have heard nothing about anything of the sort when there are only a handful of farms in the region
>Totally trustworthy and not an Institute plot guys!

Have you not played the game m8? Have you forgotten just how utterly paranoid everyone is about everyone they don't know being a synth?

>>182923407
>Kellogg is a grown ass man with a revolver
>instead of pistol whipping the mom/dad to try and get them to release the kid lets shoot them
>it wuz an accident
>he dindu nuffin
You are trying to rationalize a plot point that makes no sense. Stop.

>>182923717
>Anyone who is a trained professional like Kellogg doesn't misfire like that.
Real life disagrees, and its happened plenty of times to even the most experienced soldiers

I love this stupid as fuck straw man that always gets pushed around, not just here, but in fiction in general, where, any time an experienced whoever makes a mistake, it MUST be bad writing because pros NEVER fuck up... ever.

Despite the fact shit like that happens all the time IRL.

It just reeks of this fantasy idealized world, and/or simply wanting to find something to bitch about.

>>182923973
>its happened plenty of times
>happens all the time IRL.
[Source]?

>>182924110
Look up any number of articles/videos where people who have spent years using guns of all shoots accidentally shoot shit they didn't mean too.

Literally, you have to be brain-dead to not know that it happens.

>>182923802
If they don't care about prewar DNA then that's retarded. With the world going to shit and all the new biological dangers med science would be more valuable then robotics. It makes me lol even more that Shaun catches a case of the cancer because they don't focus at all on med science.

They failed with the outside because they focused on the wrong shit. Have all the gen 1 and 2s focus on raider clean up and it would have made a bigger difference. I'd say mutant clean up but that's the tutes fault.

Warwick settlement is small and out of the general loop. Intel that comes their way is old and out of circulation by the time traders come their way. Intel from traders is the only intel they get, so they would trust a trader that says these seeds are good shit, plant them and get some crop gainz .

>>182924273
Move the goalpost less than three times in two posts and maybe someone will take you seriously one day. Then again you play Fallout 4 so maybe not.

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>Locomotive has no way to connect to other train cars
Bravo Todd

Why can making vault 88 be so counter-intuitive?
ALOT of stuff just don't snap right unless its the specifix part, take the corner railings for example.

>>182924273
I'm not saying accidents don't happen, but trained pros practice trigger discipline. Why did he have his finger on the trigger if he didn't intend to shoot the mother or father? Why fire a warning shot right next to someone when they are a foot away? Why not explain to them instead of demand they hand over their kid? Why not rescue the denizens of the vault and bring them to the institute to incorporate them as new sources to stave off inbreeding if nothing else?

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>>182923802
>the guys who made bioandroids out of FEV enriched cloned tissue
>who made FEV expirements
>who have a whole division dedicated to genetic manipulations
>have no interest whatsoever in genetics
>have no use whatsoever in two dozen diverse samples of Pre-War DNA

>>182920924
>Wanting shitty looking paintball armor
Thank goodness it's neverever tier.

>>182924616
There's an extremely useful and therefore valuable material in the connector so they've all been scavenged over the past two centuries so fuck you.

t. peter hines

>>182924413
>With the world going to shit and all the new biological dangers
Have you played any of the Fallout games?

The great war killed off anyone who was predisposed to sickness, and the people wh survived bred a new race of people that are far more resistant to disease then pre-war people were.

This is why things like cancer are basically non existent, despite the large amount of radiation all over the place.

Natural evolution made everyone resistant to most diseases out there.

The most the avarage person gets on the surface is the ever infamous 6th toe mutation.

Medical science is largely useless in the Fallout world.

Shaun only got cancer becuase he was a pre-war human, and thus, lacked the 200+ years of general evolution that made most everyone else, including those in the Institute, resistant to radiation induced problems like cancer.

>They failed with the outside because they focused on the wrong shit.
Actually ,they failed because the people of the surface didn't want to trust them.

All purging raiders would do is cause the people of the surface to believe that after taking out the raiders, the true would come after them next

>Warwick settlement is small and out of the general loop.
This is demonstrably false, as the Warwick settlement rests at one end of one of the major merchant caravan routes.

>>182924805
I just wish the armor size wasn't dependent on under clothes in the base game. Shit fits like a trash bag because I wear something other then a harness under my armor.

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What are the rules on killing BOS members in FO4 without that faction deciding to kill you on sight? I see BOS vertibirbs all the time and it's really goddamn tempting to slaughter them for their power armor and weapons. If I openly kill them, will I see repercussions? Or do I have to kill them while undetected?

>>182924734
>who made FEV expirements
For synths
>who have a whole division dedicated to genetic manipulations
for synths
>have no interest whatsoever in genetics
outside of synths, nope.
>have no use whatsoever in two dozen diverse samples of Pre-War DNA
Which would be useless in the post-war world were veeryone is naturally more resistant to disease and radiation then pre-war people were.

All the pre-war DNA would show them is just how much inferior pre-war people are to the post-war humans living right now.

And they can get that just be looking at shaun's DNA

>>182925089
You have to kill a named BoS memebr, such at those on the Prydwen, to make them hostile.

The BoS has no way of knowing it was you who killed their squad out in the middle of the wastes, so they wont go hostile.

Fallout 4 isn't like New Vegas where NPCs magically know everything you do regardless of if they have any actual means of knowing you did it or not.

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>high agility
>lets you play pure FPS mode
>or full vats only

why is agi such a centralized "must have" stat

Best ENB.

>>182924937
Or maybe cancer isn't a problem because not many people make it to cancers golden age standard, let alone cigs are rare so the most common type of cancer aka lung is at an all time low.

If you think that the commonwealth people are disease resistant and that Bethesda just didn't want to program in diseases then I don't know what to tell you.

If they focused on raider clean up and people thought that they were next then eventually they would be let down when it never happened. If they only focused on raider clean up then those people who get others on edge about them being next would lose credibility when it never happened.

>>182925274
I finx it wierd how they don't in fallout 4, I mean, they have more instant communications in 4 than they have in new vegas

>>182921296
She's kinda cute in her own way, accent gives hard on too

Also during which quests do you have to decide which faction you're going for? I'm thinking railroad, which faction/s did you guys like and why?

And how to you add mods to your ps4 version? Is it possible even if haven't had a computer for 6 months because economical reasons.

>>182925498
It makes sense in some ways and in others it doesn't. If you killed a vertibird next to the airport then they should get the coms. If they died in the glowing sea it makes sense the signal doesn't reach.

>>182921296
people want "damaged" girls because deep down they find them to be easier to manipulate emotionally

same to the shy and timid girls weebs loves so much about the stereotypical asian woman

>>182925558
You just need a bethesda.net account to get mods straight from the game, but honestly, the only "good" mods are just cheats or adds more internal assets to the settlement building, for PS4 anyways

>>182921854
doesn't look like we're going to run out of oil before we successfully switch to renewables.
the damage done to the climate is the real problem at this point.

>>182925478
>If you think that the commonwealth people are disease resistant and that Bethesda just didn't want to program in diseases then I don't know what to tell you.
If you think I was talking only about Fallout 4, then you are retarded.

This has been true of every Fallout game back to Fallout 1.

Outside of STDs, and minor mutations like a 6th toe, major diseases like cancer have never been shown, or mentioned, to be a problem in the post-war world, in any Fallout game.

>they would be let down when it never happened.
That would just increase their conspiracy and paranoia that the Institute was working towards some master plan to wipe them all out at once.

Even during the 40+ years between the fall of the CPG, and the Broken Mask Incident, when the Institute was doing literally nothing to the people of the surface, they were still being blamed for everything.

It doesn't matter if decades go by with nothing going on, people will still blame The Institute for it because its an easy target to scapegoat all their problems on.

>>182925274
So I'm free to slay them to my heart's content so long as they're namelss shitters in the wastes? Sweet. Also, holy shit I saw a Gunner fucking steal a vertibird. Did I imagine that?

>>182925707
I like damaged women because my shit taste in humor wouldn't apply to a straight edge church girl. I like dark humor and most people don't think it's funny.

>>182925781
Then what if we run out of renewables...

Checkmate atheist

Cait an uggo and a shit. A shit!

>>182925129
No they not only develop new crops, which is obvious to any group who needs to feed a population with limited space, they are also obviously dedicated to all matters of genetic manipulation, medical research, partly because it improves future synth generations and partly because it has medical value.

The Robotcs division is entirely dedicated to Synth development, not Bioscience.Those guys do all matter of research, you stupid fucking aids infested windowlicking cocksucking nigger kike asshole retard.

>>182925830
No, Gunners and BoS do fight over vertibirds, and the Gunners do steal some after the BoS show up.

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>>182923163
>not using no teleports

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>>182923032

I think when Kellogg says killing her was an accident he probably just says that he probably shouldn't have been so rash.

And he knows that her death is the reason the SS is going to kill him.

Her death at the hands of Kellogg at least makes more sense to me, because he's kind of a dick, than the Institute shutting off everyone's pods for literally no reason. The Institute in some ways reminds me of the Enclave, but they kill more indirectly and most of them aren't bad people.

>>182925724
So won't be needing computer? I was thinking that bethesda.net have official mods and nexus all kinda of stuff for pc only ofc, is that correct? (Curious, don't know shit about modding.

>>182925958
> partly because it improves future synth generations and partly because it has medical value.
It's explicitly stated that all FEV development to improve synths was stopped decades ago, which is part of the reason why Virgil questions why the test continue, and is part of the reason why he tried to get the project shut down.

FEV was perfected into an idealized state back in 2224, according to the FEV research notes.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/FEV_research_notes

>This is Doctor Elliott, reporting for the BioScience division. March 2224. We just received another batch of... subjects... but as my previous report stated, we're at an impasse here. More of the same won't help. The two most promising strains of FEV have been adapted to an ideal state, but... we're still missing something.
>The two most promising strains of FEV have been adapted to an ideal state,

>>182924707
you should watch the developer video they did on it.
or a number of youtube videos on vault building.
while it is retarded, it's very doable once you've got the hang of it.

>>182925790
>Even during the 40+ years between the fall of the CPG, and the Broken Mask Incident, when the Institute was doing literally nothing to the people of the surface, they were still being blamed for everything.

Out of curiosity, like what? Which events within that timeframe are you referring to which the institute is blamed for?

>>182925790
Again just because it isn't shown doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You think they don't get colds or the flu? In an uncivilized society those are more dangerous then fucking cancer. What about diarrhea? Med science is more then cancer research.

And the reason for the paranoia being so bad is they went completely underground. If people saw them doing good regardless it would make the paranoia hard to justify.

>>182926160
>Out of curiosity, like what? Which events within that timeframe are you referring to which the institute is blamed for?
Eeverything in general

Nick tells us that the Institute has been blamed for most of the ills in the Commonwealth since the fall of the CPG.

ANYTHING that goes on that people think is bad is The Institute's fault.

Has been that way for the 100+ years Nick has been on the Surface.

Anyone else of the opinion that bethesda should abandon workshops and settlements in the next installment? Doesn't add much for me, i never liked games like Sim City, Minecraft etc you know

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>>182924805
you're right anon, this is so much better.

>>182926219
>If people saw them doing good regardless it would make the paranoia hard to justify.
That would imply people were level headed enough to not believe that the Institute wasn't only "doing good" to trick people into letting their guards down.

>>182926285
I don't care if they keep them now that most of the dev time for them was sunk into 4. They won't need to spend a ton of time improving them in 5 now that they laid the foundations in 4. I don't like settlements either, but I can see that some do.

>>182926280
>Eeverything in general
Oh so you're just making shit up to make a point.Gotcha.

>>182926285
Nope.

I liked settlement building becuase it was the first time in a Fallout game, a series about humanity rebuilding, that you could actually do something to help them rebuild, rather then just fight cliche blob monster, or evil cliche government stereotypes.

Why is there no fucking documentation on Sim Settlements?
Also, can I upgrade the agricultural plots?

>>182925869
shit, you're right. what if we catch too much sunlight? no sun!

>>182925830
>>182925971
I don't know that you can see them steal vertibirds from the brotherhood, but the gunners definetely have vertibirds. it's just extremely rare.

>>182926523
>Oh so you're just making shit up to make a point.
How is that making shit up?

Nick simply says the Institute is blamed for everything.

Its impossible to give specifics when specifics aren't given in the game.

Especially when its not needed.

I seriously don't get this at all
>Install about 20 or so mods, and testing after each install
>Install Authentic Burned man
>Crashes so hard I have to restart the computer
>Uninstall Authentic Burned man
>Crashes so hard I have to restart the computer
>Uninstall every single mod
>Crashes so hard I have to restart the computer
What the fuck did that one mod do that forced a clean install of NV?

>>182926418
>retards would still be paranoid
Well you can lead a donkey to water but you can't make him drink. If tards want to act like tards then you can't sink to their level and throwbshit back. What's the worst that happens, you lose some gen 1s while if you took action you'd lose the commonwealths trust?

>>182926285
Should have been greatly reduced or entirely cut to be a DLC for FO4 if you ask me.
But then they wouldn't have this pointless grindmill mechanic which adds (((hundreds of hours of gameplay)))

>>182926031
I like how the first shot with the PA and the vertibird looks decen, then its all downhill from there. early 3d is so interesting.

I really, REALLY wish there was a mod that showed corpses on the hud or a minimap, ala STALKER.

>>182926706
>What's the worst that happens
The same thing that did happen, the people's belief that the Institute was out to get them reaches such a high level the Institute becomes forced to actually go after them to protect themselves.

>>182926527
Would have been better to have a scripted mechanic where settlements you have helped through quests start growing, caravans expand, etc
Instead of having a deskfan collector simulator where you build little shacks for the 5 generic sameface NPCs to walk into walls.

>>182926906

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4380/?

I use this and it really helps

>>182926967
>they go after the gen 1s
>the institute just makes more
Again it's not like you are actually losing real lives anon. Sure it's annoying but they are just robots.

>>182926569
you have to watch the videos on his channel
there's also a wiki now but I haven't checked it since I've been playing since the beggining and thus have watched all the videos as they came out

also: yes you can

>>182927080
>the institute just makes more
Making more isn't exactl a viable solution given how strappedfor resources The Institue is.

Art of the reason they developed FEV into synths was to make them quasi immortal so they didn't break down all the time like Gen 1/2 synths did, which was a massive waste on resources.

>>182922643
My headcanon is that over time the cybernetic enhancements in Kellog degraded his sanity and intelligence, mainly due to their expirimental nature and his own rough style of life. So some of the things he did that seemed questionable near the end of his life is explained that way

>>182927027
that's because despite popular belief they DIDN'T spend a majority of development time on this shit. anyone that's played with the vanilla settlement system for 10 minutes can tell you 20 ways the system is trash.
they made it as a side thing and didn't properly develop it, include it in the quests in any way, didn't add anything interesting to build etc.

>>182927078
wtf i love buffscale now

>>182927253
Immortality in general degardes human sanity

We see this in Calvert, the Think Tank, even House.

The mind mind isn't built to last that long, period. No matter how you preserve it, the stability of the person's mind will degrade into megalomania and insanity.

>>182927434
Only Cabot seems to have adjusted well (along with most non feral ghouls) but i guess in cabots case he had a lot of time to practice
I'm talking about Jack of course, not Lorenzo

>>182927078
Good mod in the beginning, gets kind of annoying later on when you don't really need resources or when you've dropped all pretenses and just console command yourself junk.

>>182927196
It isn't viable because the game says so not because reality says so. They have all these giant metal buildings they could cannibalize downtown but they don't, even though processed metal is rare as shit in a fallout world. Then they let the forged take and run the ironworks instead of setting it up as a place to refine the reclaimed buildings.

For a group who is supposed to be all about foresight they are blind as shit.

>>182927621
Ah, but even that is a one sided story. Lorenzo is locked up and treated as a prisoner for god knows how long, of course he is a little crazy by the time we run into him. Lorenzo might have been quite sane before his vampire family locked away their food source.

>>182927621
Jack isn't that stable either, he got himself lost in his attempts to cure his father long before the war happened.

His sister is basically just a slut who likes to go out and fuck people all the time because that's the only way she can live her life.

And his mother is just stuck in a world of denial about the state of the world, unwilling to accept how fucked up it is.

They may not be violently psychotic, but they are very clearly mentally unhinged.

Ghouls do seem to have a better chance at staying sane for long periods of time, but we see in people like Desmond, Eddie Winter, Oswald, Dead Domino, and others, that even non-ferals fall into the trap of obsessive psychotic desires.

>>182927820
> Then they let the forged take and run the ironworks instead of setting it up as a place to refine the reclaimed buildings.
Are you stupid? Honest question.

the Ironworks don't work outside the main forge, none of the machines to move anything operate because its been 200+ years, and resut and decay have destroyed all the smaller internal components, which The Institute very likely has no means of reasonably replacing.

No one claimed it because it doesn't work outside of a fire pit.

>>182927253

Actually he only got the implants after killing Nora / Nate

>>182927820
>They have all these giant metal buildings they could cannibalize downtown but they don't
Are you implying that anyone has the means to reasonably deconstruct them?

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>>182925707
I see this a lot, and perhaps it is true in a portion of cases. I see emotional manipulation literally every time I get a new case at work. So I know this exists. but it's not true for me.

Some people actually do just want to build others up. Cait was dealt an unfair hand in life, and I'm trying to be a good thing for her.

It's not totally selfless, I am elated by making other people happy so I gain good feels from being good for her. But my main goal is making her happy.

My real life is dedicated to social work including abuse victims and minors shifting homes and I get the same sorts of feelerinos through that.

>>182921296
All of those things are due to her past. She's remarkably well adjusted considering she was a raider slave and her parents were shitty all her life.

>>182928326
>laser weapons everywhere
>can't make a cutting laser to deconstruct buildings

>>182928416
If you notice, Institute laser weapons are worse then pre-war ones, likely due to te lack of resources which makes them have to design a cheap, and easy to replace, gun rather then a more powerful one.

>>182928364
Caitfag I've seen you mention that you are a social worker before, let me ask you something. I do home health care for people with mr/dd, and I make no money doing it. I stay with the job because I feel like I need to repent for shitty things I did when I was younger, and this is an alright thing to do. Do you do the same things, or do you know coworkers that do this? Is this fucked up?

>>182921132
A universe where the Red Sox win the World Series.

>>182921296
No one in her life ever loved her, not even her parents. Tommy Lonegan cared just enough, but Cait has still had a shitty life. Would be the ultimate sympathy magnet if not for that atrociously out of place accent.

>>182923032
Underrated bait, I give 8/10

Actually looks like it started a whole pointless discussion, 10/10

>>182923163
You got onto a car, you got what you deserved. Maybe next time you'll respect the infinite potential energy of an unmoving vehicle husk.

>>182925830
Gunners have vertibirds and power armor, they come from outside the Commonwealth and are much better established than shown in game. Everything about them is pre-war military larping.

>>182926285
I'd like to see them reduced, we got a lot of empty settlement space in 4 and not a lot of actual npc hubs/towns. The system was also implemented in the least thought out way, with resource requirements making no sense. Build a wooden building foundation with 2 pencils. Fuel a generator with 2 used oil cans the size of your palm. Getting an automatic turret emplacement built should make you feel fucking INT as fuck, not be the basic form of defense spammable by 1 INT retards.

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No seriously, why does this crash so fucking hard I have to shut down the computer?

>>182928537
Still sounds like a better plan to utilize the available resources then letting rust reclaim the buildings. 200+ years and they haven't found a plan to reclaim those resources seems like a undersight.

>>182928795
>they come from outside the Commonwealth
I don't think this is true.

We have no real knowledge about where the Gunners come from.

>>182928830
and specifically, it's NMC's texture pack. without it it boots just fine, and earlier today when I had it installed, it worked just fine. But now, it just dies

http://www.strawpoll.me/13454596

>>182922176
Don't encourage them.

>>182928667
If you're doing good work, then you don't need another reason. If you feel bad about something, and choose to do selfless things to atone, then that is as good a motivation as any. It sounds like you're doing great anon.

My coworkers are about 50/50 split down the middle between lazy state employees who like the benefits and job security of working for the state, and the younger idealistic people like me who like to help people.

Feeling bad and doing good means you're a good person who made a mistake. Bad people don't give a shit. So I wouldn't worry too much friendo, stick with it and in a few years look back on all the good you've done and be proud.

>>182928984
I could have forgiven him in the vanilla game didn't make me have to kill him. At the end of the day he was a pawn of the institute and was treated like shit. He got cybernetics which drove him crazy and while he went overboard the ground plans of every mission he did was based on a directive of the institute.

Oh hey I have to reinstall New Vegas AGAIN today, because AGAIN a random mod just fucking breaks the game beyond repair. Mod Organizer just doesn't work for me apparently

>>182928880
Reclaiming the tall as fuck sky scrappers is a massive undertaking they really haven't had the resources to do.

Not to mention, the Institute
A. Wasn't founded until 33 years after the war.
B. Most of their early years were spent just trying to build their facility
C. They spent a number of years trying to help the CPG form, which would have likely led to them being able to have the resources and manpower needed to deconstruct the large buildings
D. After the CPG fell, they spent the next 40+ years staying underground, to try to stay out of the affairs of the surface world, in an attempt to dimish the idea that they were out to get the people of the surface
E. After the Broken Mask Incident, they had to spend most of their time trying to destabilize, without outright killing, the people of the surface to defend themselves.
F. And throughout all this, they have been primary been trying to get their reactor fully functional, so they can achieve energy self sufficiency, which would be needed to achieve something like a large scale deconstruction effort.

Not to mention, if they spent any significant period of time in one area, taking apart buildings, raiders, super mutants, Gunners, and even just normal Commonwealth people, would be attacking them all the time to try to stop whatever "plan" they think The Institute has.

>>182928902
I honestly don't remember my source so I admit I could be wrong. But I thought they were a bigger group from outside the CW establishing their network across the commonwealth, supplanting raider groups and breaking down the minutemen, leaving themselves the only ones holding the big stick as it were.

>>182929198
Actually
-The ground plan for kidnapping Shaun involved both parents being left alive as backups
-The ground plan for University Point was for him to buy the data

>>182929119
I've been doing this for five years and my family wants me to find a better paying job but I stay with it because I hate myself and think this is the only way to make myself redeemable. I don't hate the work but I don't like it all that much either. Honestly wish I could just die already. Life feels like such a chore.

>Implying any of you guys are better than Kellogg

Even you good guys. How many of you have killed countless raiders? What if those raiders had little mouths to feed? Their children? Their families? Do you not care? What about those of you that wiped out the Institute, Railroad, or Brotherhood of Steel? All of their blood was on your hands. With two of those factions, you even caused the deaths of dozens of children.

How many of you sniped a raider or gunner whose only known raiding or mercenary work for their entire lives, never giving them an opportunity at a second chance in life? How many of you have shot a raider just to watch them die? How many of you use flamers, inflicting pointless agony on your enemies when a bullet is far more humane and efficient?

>>182929415
>they were a bigger group from outside the CW
no evidence

>establishing their network across the commonwealth
>supplanting raider groups
yep, they do this

>and breaking down the minutemen
nah, they took quincy, 1 (one) location. the minutemen were totally fucked already and this loss basically marked the end of the organization, but there was no more to it than "we need this location" on the gunners' end.

>>182929415
The idea that the Gunners are from otuside the Commonwealth is based on speculation coming from the fact that the apparent leader of the Gunners "Captain Wes" only holds the rank of captain, while generic Gunner soldiers go up to a much higher rank.

Nothing actually suggests the yare from outside The Commonwealth however.

They also did nothing to break down the Minutemen in general, they just attacked Quincy(likely as part of a larger plan to take control of the southern part of the commonwealth) and when the Minutemen got involved, they fought them.

>>182929503
While that's true both situations would have been under control if they held a tighter leash on Kellogg and didn't create him into the monster he was. Gen 1 synths would have accomplished the vault job, they didn't need Kellogg for that job.

>>182928537
>likely due to te lack of resources
Except no. They just flat out say they're better in the weapons firing range. They go so far as to say that their experimental plasma weapons make pre-war shit look barbaric in comparison.

>>182929769
Gen 1 synths would have likely shot even sooner, as they are programmed to shoot anything they see as a hostile.

>>182929415
>>182929705
also, lets not forget: 2 gunner strongholds are destroyed during the course of the main quest of fallout 4.
and maccready takes out one of their outposts, right?
they're most likely ded by the end of the game.

>>182929674
I wouldn't kill on sight raiders if the game game me any other choice. It would be more fun talking to them or doing anything else then just straight up murdering them.

>>182929503
>yfw Kellogg was secretly feeling remorseful about his life
>he purposely started fucking up missions with the Institute in ways he could write off, to weaken them however he could
>saw his destiny in your trapped face, the face of an unrepentant, psychopathic killer
>killed your wife, knowing you would succeed where all that tried before had failed
>looked you in the eye, taunting you to ensure you wouldn't forget his face
>waited patiently at Fort Hagen, pretending to mount a mission into the glowing sea but really waiting for you to do for him what he couldn't do himself

>>182929798
their stats are worse.

>>182929920
>hostile
>a mother holding her infant son with both hands who makes no movement but to hold onto the kid
>hostile
Do you read what you type?

>>182929523
Life is tough. Life is sometimes unfair too. People who have an easy life don't have a holistic understanding of being human. But if you're in a position where you are useful and are working and doing good in the world, then you're better off than a lot of people. Keep at it.

If you can make more money to help your family out, then maybe that's just another nice thing to do. Weigh your options and try to do what you think is right. This is vague advice of course but it sounds like the thing to do. You decide. And live for what you choose. Everyone has to find a reason to live.

>>182929926
The Gunners serve the same purpose Talon Company did in Fallout 3.

They are the logical result of all the military equipment left behind being used by people to make money as a merc company.

They are most likely dead like Talon Company was by the end of Broken Steel.

>>182929674
sure but raiders are cartoony evil villains
literally all of them are chemed up junkies who will shoot anything that moves, torture people for fun etc
and like >>182929970 says you can't even do anything about it besides shoot them.

>>182930063
Yes, synths view you a hostile simply for getting near them.

A mother resisting attempts by Institute scientists to take something the Institute needed would be seen as a hostile action to the dumb Gen 1s

I'm in love with Cait

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>>182930063

>Put. down. the. baby.
>You have 3 seconds to comply

>>182930259
>raiders are cartoony evil villains

I really wish they'd drop this aspect of fallout. Haven't played nuka-world so idk if that was a step in the right direction, but I want raiders that are a threat. Not a "bang-bang stand in the open and shoot" threat, but a "several cunning and psychologically disturbed killers are after you, and you probably won't see it coming the first few times it happens" threat.

>>182930967
>So you want not raiders, but deranged mercs?

>>182930416
What do you like about her :3

>>182930967
it wasn't. in fact it was 3 steps back from far harbor which got the children of atom right.

>>182931048
her voice and accent

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>>182931793
Did you play mass effect andromeda?

>>182931724
I would say the Nuka World gangs were as good as the CoA from Far Harbor.

They weren't really raiders, but its impossible to deal with actual raiders.

>>182931014
I really just want new players to suffer.

I want them to get a bullet tap to the back of the skull because they moved through a deserted looking town without clearing the buildings and checking the rooftops.

I want them to walk down an open road at the start of the game, get spotted by a scout who doesn't reveal himself, and 2 nights later get attacked while sleeping in camp.

I want them to take a beloved companion hostage and actually fucking kill them if the player hesitates, draws his weapon, or quicksaves.

I want encountering a single raider to make the player shit their pants and start looking around for the others closing in around them.

>>182932034
no, but I am aware of that character

it's not enough for me to get the game though

>>182932064
not at all anon. the coa in far harbor actually turned a nonsensical faction into a logical one, where as the raiders in nuka world are even more nonsensical than the regular ones

>>182932092
So again, you want something that isn't a raider.

Reminder to not get Raider Overhaul.
It makes every raider as tough as high level gunners right off the bat, meaning a 200 damage shotgun does 1/20 off a "Dreadnoughts" healthbar and they spawn fucking everywhere so good luck clearing a location.

>>182932256
The CoA were never particularly nonsensical, nor did Far Harbor change anything about their motives or the way they act.

On the other hand, the Nuka World raider gangs actually make more sense as mercs then raider gangs, but the generic raiders as seen in Fallout 3 and 4 follow how raiders would logically act.

>>182926031
What's the context of this webm? Whya re enclave soldiers mowing down non-irradiated vaulters?

>>182932092
Oh, and I want the "held up at a bridge, pay 200 caps to pass" to be an actual decision to mull over, not "haha fuck you guys, why the fuck would I ever pay, hold on, I'll kill you all when I'm finished laughing."

>>182932436
Its never explained in Fallout 2 itself.

Avellone speculated in the Fallout Bible that the Enclave soldiers in question where just being jack offs, and later claimed the Vault Dwellers tried to resist when they gave their report.

>>182932363
>not using Better Locational Damage
lmao
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>>182932834
isn't that shit in dire need of updates

>>182925472
Prc,,with the faky prc effect

>>182932926
Not him but no, it's one of the three mods all /fog/ should be using at all times.

>>182926323
>Random clothing will make even heavy combat armor slimer and more form fitting
I dont know which one is is the glithc,

>>182932990
well fuck me in the ass, I thought it needed updating for dlcs and shit

I guess I'll use it. I fucking hate these shitty bullet sponge motherfuckers

>>182933287
Bear in mind it goes both ways, wear a helmet and avoid explosions.

>>182933604
I know, that's what I want

>>182932404
far harbor gave them the context they needed. the characters, the dialogue and the quests set the tone for them to be a believeable faction and not just "we worship radiation lolrandum"

raiders in the games are pretty nonsensical really. there's just a huge lack of in-game support for their existance. where do they come from? who do they fucking raid? where do they spend all their caps? etc.
they just exisist in such large numbers and are supposed to be such a huge problem and that's just not reflected properly. in the entire commonwealth there's only a handful of farmers. and yet there's at least one raider gang pestering every single settlement. and these are struggling settlements too. can barely feed themselves, much less support bands of raiders that number the dozens.

the nuka world raiders are more retarded because they claim to be more raider-y than the commonwealth raiders, and yet they stand around for an entire year, doing nothing.
they enslave the market (not very raider-y), supposedly raking in the caps (that they can't spend anywhere) while they wait for 1 (one) guy to tell them to clear the other parks. which they want for... what reason?
plus, the operators are literally mercs, the pack are gimmicky raiders and the disciples are just the vanilla raiders

>>182933757
the more I hear about far harbor the more hyped I get for finally going there, and hearing about Nuka World has the exact opposite effect.

>This wanders on your settlement
>It has two heads and they both go "neh"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYqhnX5pDgM

Do you keep it or eat it?

>>182934041
>attempting to tame a wild animal
I release it back into the wild where it will grow and be eaten by a yao guai I guess

>>182933757
>where do they come from?
Is this a trick question? Raiders are just people who attack others for food and water because they find it easier then having to do work themselves.

>who do they fucking raid?
Again, is this a trick qeustion? We point blank see them raiding farms, and other small settlements.

>where do they spend all their
They don't make caps you fucking idiot, they are raiders, they raid others to get things. Their whole view on life is to steal from others because they don't want to put the work into earning it.

>the nuka world raiders are more retarded because they claim to be more raider-y than the commonwealth raiders, and yet they stand around for an entire year, doing nothing.
Yeah, and its explcitly stated the reason why is because, while they wanted the Overboss out, none of them wanted to take over because it would jeopardize the alliance they had to make one of the gang leaders the over boss, as it would show favoritism to that gang.

That was the whole reason they set up that elaborate plan to have you kill Coulter by revealing to you his armor's weakness.

>they enslave the market (not very raider-y)
Actually that is pretty Raidery, see Ashur, the raider king, who enslaves the fuck out of people.

> supposedly raking in the caps (that they can't spend anywhere
They can spend it anywhere, they could walk into Diamond city if they wanted too, so long as they weren't being outright hostile.

> which they want for... what reason?
They are giant walled fortresses that are basically impregnable bases for them to use. something they mention several times.

>plus, the operators are literally mercs, the pack are gimmicky raiders and the disciples are just the vanilla raiders
Disciples are nothing like vanilla raiders, they kill for sport, and do it in the most violent way possible for maximum carnage.

Normal raiders constantly talk about hating the sight of blood, talk about how they hope the next one dies clean, etc

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>>182934223
>>attempting to tame a wild animal

Well you can do it with the DLC!

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>>182934481

What's the max number of productive brahmin in a settlement? 2 or 3?

>>182934481
>>182935046

Didn't the Andromeda devs briefly embrace the whole "She was actually autistic all along" thing?

>>182935172
no, that's what /v/ desperately wanted so they could get off on the idea of fucking an autistic girl

>>182935298

I might be mis-remembering something one of my friends said. Wasn't Bioware aware of that /v/ thing

>>182933757
>and the disciples are just the vanilla raiders
Not really.

Normal radiers don't kill beyond for intimidation. Raiders know that, to be raiders, they need people to raid. Killing people doesn't get them anywhere unless its killing the few people who stand up to them to make an example out of them.

This is why, if you sneak up to raiders, yo ucan hear them talk about wanting people to not resist, how they hate the sight of blood, how they hope that the next one goes down clean, and many of them show clearly hesitant and shaky voices when claiming they are going to kill you.

Normal raiders don't like to kill that often, they raider.

Disciples just kill for maximum gore and blood for the sake of carnage.


>the pack are gimmicky raiders
They are basically the Khans

>the operators are literally mercs,
And the gunners are both mercs and raiders. Your point?

Being a merc, a person who gets hired to kill others, isn't mutually exclusive to being a raider, and attacking people just to steal shit, even if you weren't paid to do it.

>>182934348
>Is this a trick question?
it isn't. there is a gigantic amount of raiders. they are by far the largest human population in these games. obviously that's a gameplay thing, but like I said they are supposed to be everywhere and are a huge problems. where the fuck are they coming from? we see judge zeller for instance torture people into them becoming raiders, or that operator grill who runs away from diamond city etc. but those are very limited examples. where are the bulk of the raider gangs coming from?

>Again, is this a trick qeustion? We point blank see them raiding farms, and other small settlements.
yes, I myself pointed that out. the thing is, they can't possibly sustain themselves from these small sources alone. there's far too many of them for that to be the case.

>They don't make caps
you're right, they don't make caps. that's why they don't kidnap people and hold them for ransom.
>They can spend it anywhere
spend what? I thought they didn't make caps.
>Actually that is pretty Raidery, see Ashur, the raider king, who enslaves the fuck out of people.
not talking about the enslavement itself, moreso the market part. I mean, they don't even make caps, right?

>they wanted the Overboss out
for not telling them to clear the parks
where they could've cleared it anyway at no cost, since they send just one guy to do it (you)
also they could've just made gage the overboss since they didn't want their alliance to collapse. not like he could've refused either.

>they could walk into Diamond city
yep. any raider can just walk right into diamond city and order some noodles. no one's gonna bat an eye. in fact, they do it all the time. don't you remember that dialogue about that raider that got a bad haircut? haha, so funny.

>They are giant walled fortresses
they're already in a giant fortress and don't have the men for the other parks but w/e

>nothing like vanilla raiders
when vanilla raiders have corpses everywhere, and use blood skulls etc as decoration

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>>182934481
I don't claim the game is good. It had some nice parts, like generally landing and exploring the planets was great, but so much of the technical stuff about the game was really bad.

But visiting Suvi and chatting with her was my main goal.

>>182935650
Kill urself my man

>>182935970
RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE

>>182935856
>where are the bulk of the raider gangs coming from?
Average, every day, residents of the wasteland, who either don't feel like working, or who have tried to work, and gotten nowhere, and thus, turn to raiding because its the only lifestyle they have found they can survive on.

You are basically asking where do most thieves come from.

It's a totally nonsense question.

>they can't possibly sustain themselves from these small sources alone
You forget these gmaes are largely scaled down. The Abernathys, the Slog, the Warwicks, all of them mention their primary income is selling off food to places like Diamond City, because they grow a lot of excess beyond what is needed to feed themselves.

>you're right, they don't make caps. that's why they don't kidnap people and hold them for ransom.
Most raiders don't do that.

>spend what? I thought they didn't make caps.
As already pointed out, the Nuka World Raiders aren't typical raiders, stop trying to conflate the two when you know they are different.

>not talking about the enslavement itself, moreso the market part. I mean, they don't even make caps, right?
See above, dishonest conflating of two different groups as being the same is, well, dishonest.

>where they could've cleared it anyway at no cost..
Except that isn't how angs work you retard. You don't make a major move like that without permission from the boss, because the boss is the one who decides what the clan does, and doing something like that without being ordered is only a sign of insubordination, which would cause inter-gang fighting

>any raider can just walk right into diamond city
Nope, they can't, the Nuka World raiders could becuase they aren't like normal raiders, something even they point out.

Nice straw man though.

> and don't have the men...
Actually they do, hence why more men show up at the other parks once you take them.

>when vanilla raiders have corpses everywhere..
What is basic intimidation tactics and territory marking.

>thread is full of straw man arguments and bickering
What a lovely day.

>>182936583
better then wiafu posting and endless false moral questions about who is in the right in NV or Fo4's MQ.

>>182936663
Yeah but those are easy to answer
Curie is best because that accent and curiousity
House is the best
BoS is the best option for boston as they have the best infrastructure besides the crazy shut in scientists

>>182936974
>BoS
>Infrastructure
They have none, and I side with the BoS in Fallout 4.

The BoS have no real infrastructure beyond asking for donations of food, and gaining the goodwill of the people to get recruits.

They are a semi-nomadic group that goes around pruging raiders, super mutants, and feral ghouls, and hogging the best pre-war tech for themselves.

>>182934481
I unironically miss the autism fics. They were sweet.

>>182936583
WHAT A MEME, WHAT A LOVELY MEME

>>182937127
They still have command and resources. Also not sure what you mean by no infrastructure as they have vertibirds, zeppelins, power armor up the ass, liberty prime, military outposts out the ass, technology, knowledge, and people joining all the time when they are allowed to (really only on the east coast, west coast is all "fuck you"). The big thing really is command structure though.

They've got more than minutemen and railroad though without question

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>>182937551
Everything the BoS has is shit they scavenged.

The only thing they ever built was the Prydwen, and even that was just a pre-war design they aped via scavenged parts they wielded together to form something close to what its supposed to be.

The BoS has no real ability to make anything, everything they have is scavenged.

All of their vertibirds were taken from the Enclave/wrecks they found at various testing sites along the east coast.

All of their PA comes from pre-war military bases/outposts

Liberty Prime was something they just reprogrammed.

They have no real outposts in Boston beyond the Airport, and the police station.

And their number are kept really low due to the sponsorship program, and as such, they only number about 500 people total.

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>>182926323
reminder that Bethesda has no clue what practicality is

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>>182936663
Cait has very pretty hair.

The institute lie to themselves when they say they're what is best for humanity, because they go to great lengths to otherize the denizens of the commonwealth and convince themselves they're not humans, so that they don't have cognitive dissonance over leaving them to die and even facilitating their deaths. They fail to realize the people on the surface are more "human" than they are, something not measured by rads or with a microscope, but instead by what it means to live.

The NCR may have a giant bleeding wound called bureaucracy that is becoming debilitating, but the morals they stand for are still preferable to the ones the legion stand for. NCR being corrupt is a bridge we will cross when we come to it, but for now I will help those people off those crosses.

There, all 3 things.

>>182937936
Who said it was designed to be practical?

Cait is a drug addict and should be crucified with the rest of the degenerates
AVE, TRUE TO CAESER

>>182937946
I want to cum in her hair

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>>182938114
Apparently that's a common desire if porn is to be believed.

>>182937998
See? Here's a good example of what's wrong with the legion. If it was up to them, Cait's dead.
But we know that she actually cleans herself up and eventually becomes a leader in the commonwealth. Which would never have happened if the legion did their herp derp get the cross tidus stuff. So even if you prefer the legion's style, it's still clearly true that just killing loads of people for whatever infractions leads to mistakes and loss of potential good people and even just people who were in a slump and were actually fine.

>>182938509
REMOVE CAIT remove cait. you are worst companion. you are the companion idiot you are the companion smell

>>182932990
Is it better then live decaptiation or whatever it's called? I run that with the headshot damage. Can't tell you what it is because I'm on my phone.

>>182938582
I want to remove her clothes

>>182937936
>person wearing astounding amounts of heavy spiky metal and fighting in a welding hood
barring an enemy that's designed to blindly bump into you and give you tetanus I don't see how anyone other than a gradeschooler thought that would be cool

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>>182939081
Even in real life, combatants do impractical stuff for the sake of intimidation, or for the sake of making a name for themselves.

Some african paramilitary organizations wear women's clothing, even full wedding gowns, because they believe it will make them harder to hit with a gun.

The germans in ww2 wore idiotic felt uniforms with stupid stuff like leather internal suspenders that cracked as soon as they were in any temperature in the field, but they looked cool and now everyone remembers how slick the nazis looked.

Some native american tribes wore tall mohawks often painted red as a way of goading their enemies and tainting them by saying "come take this scalp it's right here".

So I see the dumb spikey bits as more of this sort of thing than actual hoping it's functional. This metal armor here is fairly practical looking though.

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Hey, /fog/.

Any ideas on how much a warhead would be worth in post-apocalyptic Boston? I'm planning on having six available, so I don't want to make them crazy valuable. Then again, water purifiers make the economy fucked anyways.

>>182939850
the issue with the point you are trying to make is that the armor in question would leave the end user both blind and fairly immobile.
also
>German felt uniforms
the only thing felt you'd find on a German would be a pair of soviet winter boots taken as a trophy

>>182940437
350 caps

>>182940437
Make them sellable to select people who have the means and motive to use them, maybe set up something at Bunker Hill where you can sell it to the Gunners, maybe throw in Enclave Remnants for giggles, the BoS quartermaster/faction QM,
I dunno man I think it'd be fun to have a quest
How's the solo looking btw? I'm the technicalfag who kept telling you to put windows wayback
Bu for replies sake 5-6k
Make them so that you have to actually be buying expensive shit to justify trading them.

where is piperfag? I need my stories.

>>182940794
A little beyond the scope of my modding abilities.
>>182940686
Sounds reasonable. They're pretty heavy, so I want to keep the price worthwhile.

>go into vault 81 to acquire waifu
>fps drops to literally 10
What the fuck is this

>>>182845413

lol they banned him for this. top kek

>>182861660
well, thats not what a sociopath is, but ok.

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>>182941652
>getting curie
>ever
If you want the lesser robot then sure, curie is alright. But be warned that Ada is best girl.

>>182940967
Hopefully dead. Remember to report all blogposters.

>created a little personal space in Sanctuary
>preston and his band of minutemen roaches show up
>intrude my house
>I kick them out with console commands, create doors in my house and lock those with console so no npc can go in
>a while later I fast travel back to Sanctuary
>Sturges and Marcy Long are inside the locked house, with Marcy sleeping on my bed
Fucking hell, this is so infuriating. I murdered Marcy in her sleep and she doesn't cause any problems anymore, but this Sturges cunt is still an essential character so I can't kill him. And to top it off, every fucking time I go near him he's saying how he made sanctuary into a great place to live even though I was the one who provided his ass with beds, food and water. How do I get rid of him, short of disabling him through console?

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>>182942380
You forgot your image.

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>>182920924
How do I make SMG's useful in NV?

>>182942648
use bigger bullets

>>182942260
>cant even romance her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu1Fk5e1IKE
into the trash it goes

>>182942380
grab a no essential NPCs mod and murder his ass

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Overseer is
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/tesg/ here, is Kos a cool guy? He was caught samefaggin already.

Apparently he left /fog/ cause it's a buff circlejerk.

>>182943370
>T
>H
>I
>C
>C

nce meme faggot

>>182943509
>/tesg/ here
nobody cares

>is Kos a cool guy? He was caught samefaggin already.
literally who. nobody cares

>Apparently he left /fog/ cause it's a buff circlejerk.
nobody cares

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>>182943172
>romancing a 10 year old in a 30 year old body
Hope you like babysitting someone on the emotional level of a preteen.

>>182943613
You seem bitter, you must be a NVfag.

>>182943648
nobody cares what some random namefag does, let alone which general he browses.
literally nobody gives a shit. why do you?

>>182943648
But he's right though. Never heard of this kos guy.

>>182943813
>>182943871
He claims he was pretty big modder here on /fog/. Helped Trainwiz with that themepark mod.

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>>182943907
>claims he was a big modder
>no ones heard of him
Take from it what you will anon.

>>182943907
k. and?

>>182944017
Really makes me think.

Thanks /fog/, enjoy your dead game.

>>182943907
I know Shitscale helped Trainfag with Maxwell's world.

>>182943632
>implying i dont find 10 year olds attractive

>>182943509
>>182943509
>claims he's from /tesg/
>doesn't know who kos is
fuck off m8. But if they're a namefag or tripfag, they're probably cunts. Buff is a cunt, Trainwiz is a cunt, kos is a cunt.
The only one that isn't a cunt is knots. but he's probably a cunt too.

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>>182944096
No problem anon. Enjoy your waifu scaley simulator. Go cast a spell for me, and say hi to snape.

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So what 4th company do you think will end up doing the American south games for Fallout?

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>>182944153
They're not all cunts. Caitfag is a cutie.

>>182944342
Caitfag is a cute cunt. Best I can do for you.

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>>182944368
I'll take it in the literal sense caitfag is a girl. So it works for me.

Would you befriend a talking deathclaw?

>>182944553
only if it resulted in sex

>>182944592
Of course. That goes without saying.

Are there any conversion mods for the Brotherhood of Steel with Matt Hore's space marine armor yet?

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/fog/ my ss is having some trouble.
>scootin through the wasteland
>too much rads
>gets a peek at pipers ass
>dick is a tribute to the fallen astronauts
>can only get it half up
What do I do?

>>182944553
Does that gene still exist in deathclaws?

>>182943907
wow so amazing, he must be the greatest dude ever. give me his address so i can go suck his tiny cock asap
nohomo

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>>182944743
#brojobs

>>182943907
>Care?
>Yes [ ]
>No [x]

>>182944678
Suicide helps.

What sorting mod you guys use on 4?

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>tfw I will never convince Synth!Curie to fart down my throat on the pretense that it is for "scientific research"

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Are there any mods that make it so that your companion doesn't shake the ground when they walk in power armor?

>>182942648
They are pretty good as it is for their niche (close range room sweeping of several light to medium targets). If you fight anything bigger you can go for limb crippling with them, and critical builds can go well with SMGs. Their only real downside is limited engagement range.

>>182944368
Why are they a cunt? they don't mean to be. they say they're sorry.

asking for a friend of course.

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>mfw George Romero is dead

>>182946491
He will be back soon.

post your favorite companions list
1. Piper
2. CODESWORTHE
3. Nick
4. Piston Gravy
5. Caite
6. Curie
7. Deacon
8. Hancock
9. Strong
10. Danse
11. Whatever the fuck the synth courser is called
12. MacReady
13. Mutt chops
No dlc included because I gotta wait for the next steam sale

>>182923032
Personally I say he was just tired of putting up with people's bullshit and just wanted to get out of there at the time. After all, he's shown as a pretty rash and gruff merc, so I figure he probably wouldn't give too much of a shit if they one in the pod with shaun dies or not.

It may not have been the best option but when are mercenarys ever shown making rational decisions as compared to just doing whatever it takes to get payed.

>>182946632
Curie is, OBJECTIVELY, the best companion in the game
>Smart
>cute
>knows a lot about medicine which will help you in the wasteland
>compassionate
>cute
>CUTE!

>>182946830
and as a synth slut, shares your dna

incest is wincest

>>182946632
Gage.

>>182923407
What is trigger discipline you faggot

>>182946632
1. Ada
2. Nick
3. Dogmeat is a good boy
4. Longfellow
5. Gage
6. Piper
7. Hancock
8. Danse
9. X6-88
10. Strong
11. Hon hon baguette eiffel tower
12. Potato famine
13. Muh pathological lying
14. Muh sick kid
15. Muh settlements

Reminder that psykers and talking deathclaws exist in the fallout universe. And that ghoulification has no set rules and is completely random as to whether or not it happens to a person, AND that ghoulification even exists in the first place. ANNND that various creatures have grown to an abnormal size and have recieved nonsensical mutations to their DNA and in the fallout universe. ANNNNND that all of this and more is okay because fallout is a fictitious universe where the explinations that could be given to explain these things to us would make no sense in the context of our own universe because they are impossible, and the best answers we have for these things are "radiation", or "FEV".

Reminder that suspention of disbelief can and will only go as far as you as an individual ate willing to take it, and that at the end of that day fiction is fictional and makes very little sense outside of it's own universe.

Inb4 "hi Pete"

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>>182946830
you're objectively wrong
>setting for synthpussy
>ever

FO4 is the best in the series. New Vegas is the worst.

>>182947643
okay

>>182948097
REMINDER THAT:
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I love you anon

>>182946830
She can't give birth to your babies tho.

>>182944231
Beth is gonna move in on the south, I bet.

Unless the rumblings I heard about a 'Norlans fallout are bullshit.

>>182935921
That's because you're an autistic faggot with a pension for ugly mick dikes

>>182947643
>not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls

>>182948358
Curie is for fun, Piper is for breeding.

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>>182947643
>Reminder that psykers
>exist in the fallout universe

So I was just running down the road with Piper when I heard what sounded like sputtering engine, and then a crash. Looking around I see the last remnants of a smoke trail in the sky.
Piper says something like "We should go check and see if anyone survived, right?" so I start running in the general direction of the smoke trail.

Well, I got into combat and lost my heading, and there's no map marker or journal entry.

So, what was that? The "crashing UFO" event? Is there somewhere I can go, or is the crash location random and unmarked?

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>>182948412
>chris avellone just posts a photo of a New Orleans streetmap on his instagram
>fans piss their pants screaming FALLOUT NEW ORLEANS CONFIRMED

>>182944231
Bioware.
No but seriously I have no idea, who knows what the next Fallout game could be or whom it will be made by. Only time will tell. I would like to see another game in the midwest though.

>>182948543
Sounds reasonable.

What is Cait for?

>>182948558
>Implying you don't know it's true
>Implying you don't love it

>>182948515
Ebin

>>182948591
It's another of Bethesdas hamfisted REMEMBER DEEZE xD? moments.
Just go north of Vault 81, east of Oberland until you see green spots on the ground or receive a garbled radiotransmission leading you to a cave.

>>182948608
Why does he look so sad and dead inside

>>182948609
No matter where the game is set, it will still have the BoS, Super Mutants, the Children of Atom, and synths.

>>182948738
It's the premiere of Pixels.

>>182948730
>north of Vault 81, east of Oberland
Seriously? I'm just south of The Slog, and I think the trail was leading me east.

Would the even really have triggered while I was that far away?

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>>182948663
public semen tank.

>>182948812
I mean the BoS is a given, seeing as how the have so many chapters. Super mutants, eh yeah probably but I could see them not being in a future game. As for the last two there's a good chance not.

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>>182949016
If you take out mutants then there would be one less raider thing to fight, since the only thing mutants are in 4 is jacked up green raiders.

>>182948941
Private semen tank maybe?

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>>182949081
Repeat after me normie. PUBLIC.

>>182948854
The event can happen at any of the Random Encounter spawn locations scattered across the map, but the crash will always be where i said.

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>>182949151
No thank you

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>>182949016
>fallout
>without Orcs

WE'LL RIDE AND GLIDE AND BE SO SATISFIED

THE TRIP WILL BE FINE ON MY ROCKET 69

>>182949350
Phew, I'm glad I got lost, then.

I figured it'd just be a quick jog and I'd be there. Kinda messed up it would trigger all the way across the map like that.

It was indeed leading me west, at least.

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>>182948663
Cait is for putting to work.

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>>182949387
>thinking you have a choice about not using the commonwealths #1 semen tank
Anon do your duty and make a deposit asap. You have to do this in order to reform this raider slut.

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Haven't played in a long time, but since the GECK's out, I'm willing to give it a go.
Do mods still disable steam achievements?

>>182950096
>muh cheevos
Ironically, there's a mod to enable your previous achievements again.

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>>182949709
>>182949829
I have no interest in lending out my women.

>>182950171
I won't lie, I like that small pop-ups and can't really understand why would they actually make it vanilla-dependable.

>>182950231
>implying Cait hasn't taken dozens of dirty raider dicks already
Anon that shits been used.

>>182950623
Yeah.

She might be a used, fight-pit druggie whore slut, but she MY used, fight-pit druggie whore slut.

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>>182950762
But anon you can make some extra caps making her a public semen tank. Charge 5 caps per shot. She could probably make you 100 caps a day, easy. Plus she does need reforming since she is ex raider scum. Think of the public service you will be providing!

what a quality thread

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>>182950623
that's why piper is better in every regard

>>182950982
I do what I can.

>>182948558
Someone edit this image so that his head is even smaller.

>>182921165
>*BURRRRPPPPPPP*
>*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
>OI WHAT CAN I GET YE LOVE
>*pfttshhhhrlp*
>Oh fack me arse

>>182951040
>teenage orphan girl trying to feed herself and her little sister
>with no marketable skills besides her tight asshole
Anon please.All that money to set up shop in DC must have come from somewhere.

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So I made a mod yesterday. Alters the vault suit, makes it tighter. I didn't just copy skin data though -- I actually moved around the vertices to adhere closer to the skin, while maintaining folds in the clothing, etc. I think I did a damn good job. See image.

It also got locked on the nexus. Why? Do you see those numbers in the back that say "1488"? A mod got upset.

If anyone wants the mod though, I'll upload it for anyone here. Works with all texture mods altering the vault suit.

>>182951486
Nice work anon

>>182951486
>1488
>A mod got upset
I live under a rock. Explain?

How's it look on a not-fat chick?

>>182933890
When you do nuka world, don't finish it if you value your settlements

>>182951592
>letting idiots who dress up like clowns live
Just kill them all t b h