/fog/ - FALLOUT GENERAL

First for Cait smells like bad smells

REMOVE SHITSKIN GHOULS

Dogmeat an uggo and a shit. A shit!

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>>182812276
>have a purified water empire with loads of excess, literally piling up in work benches
>install working bathrooms and showers and running water in every settlement except murkwater
>the empress of the water trading empire doesn't use it to be clean
I dunno anon, doesn't add up

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>>182812276
>>182812298
>>182812453

Quality content.

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Have you embraced your Dog and Savior today /fog/ ?

>>182812601
>Ghoul hate is quality
Yes it is. It's the purest form of human emotion to hate Ghouls

>>182812548
No amount of scrubbing is going to clean out that smelly vadge t b h

>>182812246
Need answers. Also could you and piperfag live in the same universe and coexist, you loving Cait and he loving piper?

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Best waifu coming through.

>>182812976
Don't encourage him

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>>182812995
>best anything
>doesn't link Ada
Oh anon, you sweet Summer child.

>>182812601
>"quality content"
>yet shitposts with their ugly ass character all day every day and the same images

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>>182813145
>that piece of shit
>instead of getting a loving handjob from your oldest friend

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>>182813408
>is alive and butlers the house for 200 years
>filled with trash and leaves when you show up
He can't even do anything right anon.

>>182812601
>criticizes first posts of a new thread
You aren't fucking new here, you should know better. Also, check your pot/kettle interface you cretin.

>>182813549
>perfectly fine settlement strangely devoid of live when you first showed up
He dedicated two centuries murdering terrorizing every single human being coming to that place anon give him some credit.

>>182812298
Never got why you couldn't side with the Enclave in Fallout 2/3. Purging the waste of muties and ghouls is the right thing to do. the only good muties are Fawkes, Marcus, and God. A lot of the non-ferals are also scum, liek teh one that tells you to shoot his friends for their keys

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>>182812856
It's true though. You get a mission to find blackbird, all they tell you is they thought he was dead. You find him, report back that he is indeed dead, and they just fucking move on. No words or sadness, just tells me to go set up another mila for that autist tom.

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>>182812976
After she left the combat zone and kicked the habit and has a steady family who loves her, she actually got really into health and personal care. She has strength from her days at the combat zone but she had no concept of nutrition, so every time I cook one of the prewar recipes I know (as close as possible with wasteland ingredients) I tell her about what's good or bad about it and compared to other foods.

This extends to her appearance. She likes wearing fancy prewar clothes and she likes when I wear a nice dress when I serve her dinner.

I think after all those years of things like health and appearance being completely irrelevant to her life, now that she has the luxury of caring at all about such trivialities she indulges in it.

So no not really, to answer your question. She shops at the settlement clothing market stands and come sup with what she wants to wear. And of course, to me, she's invariably ravishing looking.

A while ago, when we were first dating, Cait did ask Piper for advice though. She saw Piper's terminal where she was answering the personals ad in diamond city, and so she asked Piper about how to date someone. She of course told Piper that she would beat her up if she told anyone she asked for help, since a tough girl like Cait can't be asking these sorts of things.

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>>182813857
>devoid of life
>except the six bloatflies, four radroaches and the fact that the vault Tec salesman crashed at my pad for god knows how long
Admit that he is a shit butler anon, it's alright.

>>182813904
I saved my Cait from the combat zone yesterday. I hate her voice and I don't want her following me, but I sent her to Abernathy Farm where she can live her life in relative peace and safety. I will build her a house.

Respect.

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>>182813972
You're too late i already claimed the thread for a waifu that doesn't live of a diet of psycho and raidercum >>182812313 better luck next time.

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>>182813904
But what about the second question from>>182812976? Could you coexist in the fallout universe with piperfag? Would you and Cait help him rescue piper?

>>182814302
Man i came literal buckets to that Doujin.

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>>182814302
Oh, sure. I would of course go rescue Piper with them. Piper is my best friendo basically. Risking life and limb for her is a worthy cause.

>>182814162
Doggo Meato can come too.

>>182813876
But anon according to the enclave every mainland surfaceborn human is a mutie including you.

>>182813886
>It's true though.
Except it isn't, as its mentioned in both Fallout 3, and 4, that the Railroad has helped free human slaves as well.

And they give Patriot a big ass funeral for all the help he gave them.

>>182814139
I like Cait as a companion but god damn do I hate that accent. The Irish thing has nothing to do with her character or anything at all, it's just there with zero explanation, not even a hamfisted one like, "oh yeah my dad was Moriarty" or something.

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>>182814584
Nice. Last question. Do you think he will end up with piper? Will it end with him and piper living in diamond city raising nat?

The lone wanderer is vault born. If they can side with an abomination like Horrigan, they can probably accept the chosen one because he's the direct descendant of a vaulter

>>182814721
It's just plain awful voice acting. Worst I've heard in the game so far.

>>182814634
They give him a funeral after they go behind his back and get the synths to rebel and kill the scientists. You think patriot would help get his parents and everyone he knows killed?

>>182814162
I was just posting an image

are you alright?

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>>182814751
Speaking of nat...

>>182814991
>doing anything but exterminating that gargoyle
Anon, you can do better.

>>182815130
You could strangle her while nutting in her if that makes you feel better.

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>too many sidequests on my to-do list
>too many settlements that need to be built to my autismo standards
>can't decide what to do next
>end up sitting around in Sanctuary getting nothing done
Does anyone else have this problem?

>>182815218
autists

>>182814802
No purge all filth

>>182815218
I would recommend suicide but you would probably end up sitting in your bedroom undecided on how to draw the knot.

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Awful lotta doggos!

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>>182814751
We can hope anon. It's pretty natural for people who go through so much together to develop feelings for each other.

>>182815517
It is a good thing

>>182815218
Are you having trouble putting on your trousers in the morning?

Is there any good hair mods for New Vegas or is it all shit?

>>182815572
Why is this dog wearing bifocals

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>>182815572
Noice.

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>>182815636
Because he heard there was a blowout soon and he's a d.o.g.g.o

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Best meat.

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>>182815976

>tfw you will never get to walk through diamond city and see caitfag on a date with Cait and piperfag minding the shop with piper while nat runs off to chase a boy who confessed to her
Why live?

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>>182816681
>ywn drag Nat off into one of DCs dark alleys when no one is paying attention

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>doing some shitposting
>don't expect to see literal shit in the captcha
Google is self aware. It knows what we're doing and it's playing with us

>>182816681
Starting families and creating lives for yourself and those you care about and creating safe settlements for other people to do these same things is what it's all about anon.

Remember, another settlement needs your help. But it matters. You can make the commonwealth a better place. Help that settlement.

>>182815621
Virtually every hair mod since Oblivion is just reusing the same ressources from crazy, appachii and nouk.

I'm shocked we've gotten this far into the series and still never had a "Man raised by deathclaws" bit

>>182817542
They had an opportunity to I feel like in nv with the blind death law that guarded the pass. Don't know why other then I feel it in my gut that it was a missed opportunity.

>>182816156
"Don't talk to me or my wife's sons ever again"

Everyone knows Mrs. Dogmeat took the Mutant Hound cock

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>>182817542

Under what kind of logic would a man be raised by feral Deathclaws? You don't see people raised by crocodiles.

>>182817670
Fucking phone. Claw. Deathclaw.

>>182817704
not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls.

>>182817542
We already had a woman raised by giant ants, and man raised by gorillas, as well as two Rad Roach kings.

>>182817704
The story of Feral Children isn't entirely unheard of. most common story is the man raised by wolves

>>182817872
>Man raised by gorilla
Do me a favor and never mention that again. In fact let's just say it never happened

>>182817670
>>182817786
Ah yes, Death Law. The infamous raider attorney.

>>182817964
>being this ass blasted over a Tarzan reference
>its o when when its done by deathclaws though!

>>182817704
Under what circumstances could the image you attached have added anything to the conversation at hand? What does it convey relative to the given conversation?

>>182818198
>It's not okay if it's poorly executed
>It's okay if it's properly executed with the series mascot monster
glad we reached this agreement

>>182818331
>It's not okay if it's poorly executed
Except it wasn't

>It's okay if it's properly executed with the series mascot monster
Except deathclaws aren't a mascot monster

Super Mutants would more fit that role.

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>>182818324
It's purpose was to get (you)s. And you gave him what he wanted. Good job.

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>>182818419
>Except it wasn't

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>>182818419
>ywn get to be raised as Lilly's grandkid and be spoiled by her
Why live anon?

>>182818472
At that point they are just breaking 13 all the time and should an hero

>>182818668
Or just do the sensible thing and ignore them. The janitors hate this place as is.

>>182818762
Hey man enough people flagging would make them do it for free and they'd enjoy it

>>182818857
>enough people
>in this dead as fuck general
If the waifufags and shitposters left this place would be rip in peace. Just ignore them and move on.

>>182819006
without them the people they drove out would return

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>>182817542

>Deathclaw matriarch recently lost its hatchlings to big meanie humans that are afraid of deathclaws
>Tracks down the humans that killed them
>Finds a three year old hiding under its bed
>Something in the Matriarch's primitive brain clicks, maybe a maternal instinct, maybe they were partly made with human DNA in addition to other creatures
>Raises it as its own
>Fast forward 20 years
>Crazy naked guy with full beard, that never trims his fingernails, runs around scratching people and roaring

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>>182817903

I'm aware of that, then again, a wolf is not a deathclaw. From what I've heard reptiles apparently lack the ability to "sympathize" with other animals or some shit.

So a Deathclaw would never love a man the way a dog or a wolf can.

>>182818324

I'm sorry, here's a better image.

>>182819481
I dunno.
It can be possible. In the wild, sperm whales adopt dolphins, dogs take in squirrels, some captive chimp care for kittens, and some dogs watch over baby birds.
Seeing how Deathclaws are also hybridized with god knows what, something could go down.

>>182819896
>mad that it's true
See? That image was in fact relative to the conversation. Maybe you should do more of those? Maybe take more pictures of your ugly character and use them to convey emotion.

That way you'll get nuked for being an avatarfag

>>182819116
lol you're so dumb anon

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>>182819896

I've always assumed that Deathclaws aren't just Chameleons. But tons of animals thrown together. Maybe even humans.

Isn't Goris a pretty chill dude, or do you guys not consider him canon anymore?

>>182819896
Animals can't speak fluent english either(insert /pol/ joke), yet Fallout 2 happened. And to suggest that a single outlier is impossible is just silly

>>182819481
>Deathclaw Dude tries to claw at something
>Rips fingernails off
Maybe if he used a deathclaw gauntlet and wore deathclaw hides,otherwise it amounts to a humor encounter where the Matriarch sees this shit happen for the 100th time and pulls him close to shield him

>>182820125
>do you guys not consider him canon anymore?
Don't ask loaded questions.

>>182820281
That's really where the mindset goes though. It'd be a small, inconsequential easter egg, like the Bridge of death, or Fallout 3

>>182820162
Not him, but that only happened due to FEV

Which is Fallout's version of bullshitium/handwaveium

>>182820125
Like here >>182820013 it is possible
That, and who knows what they threw in there.
Hell, Goris as you mentioned fucking talked.
It is not at all far fetched.

>>182820125
The new crew hates the talking animals and whatnot from 2, so it's de facto non-canon

That didn't stop Todd from making a whole DLC about the ayys

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>>182820292

Whats loaded about it? Its a simple question, my man.

Is Goris canon or not?

>>182820162

Deathclaws understand english well enough in FO4. If you tell them to calm down, they calm down. With a speech check of course.

>>182820576
I mean, understanding a command is a bit different than fluently speaking english. My dog knows when to sit and give her paw, but she can't give me directions to a Sheetz in Bowie Maryland

>>182820515
>tfw there will never be an intelligent deathclaw again
Todd you fucking fraud give me my lizard husbando

>>182820707
Too far. No Waifus, No Husbandos. Ever. it's an unhealthy lifestyle that leads to things like Neogaf subverting our values

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>>182820576
I think it's how one would say it and their body language and whatnot. Not sounding afraid and presenting yourself as a non threat can be good.
Like how you can stand down certain dogs with being more dominant through body language and such.

>>182820576
By your logic dogs understand english because my dog comes to me when I ask if he wants dinner

>>182820576
Goris is technically canon, but like >>182820515 said, Beth has been pretty clear that there will be no more talking animals. I'm sure someone has the image saved. Also bringing in Wasteland Whisperer to justify Deathclaws understanding English is pretty weak since that would mean ALL animals/creatures of the wasteland can understand English.

>>182820941
Actually, it was Avellone who said there would be no more talking animals.

Bethesda has said nothing on the issue, but does follow the Fallout Bible, so its pretty good to assume they wont do it either.

>>182820821
I'm too repulsive for a real person to like me, why can't I pretend that a fake one does

>>182821042
>Bethesda follows the fallout bible
Maybe they just can't read then

Fallout tactics also had talking deathclaws. It also had a female super mutant prostitute.

>>182821103
Na, they follow it pretty well actually.

>>182821274
Tactics isn't canon outside of its highest level events

>>182821279
Now that I think about it, everything offensively bad they did never really went against the bible, it was just awful. My mistake on that front.

>>182821413
fucking a super mutant seems pretty high level

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>>182813145
Ada would've been the best waifu if you could romance her.

God dammit, she's fucking tight and all I can do is be mean to her. What the FUCK were they thinking?

>>182821413
The only thing we know are canon from Tactics
-The BoS sent some guys east to hunt down remnants of The Master's army
-They were sent in airships
-Those airships crashed
-The fought super mutants in the Chicago area
-Some of the super mutant forces were absorbed into their ranks
-Nuka Cola Cherry, and RadRoaches, both originally comes form Tactics

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>>182821279

I think we'll see talking deathclaws one day anyway

Or a Goris cameo voiced by a native American voice actor talking about he's the last of his people. Covered head to tail in tribal tattoos. I'm going to assume that Deathclaws are basically immortal like Super mutants, might be why, in addition to being apex predators, there's so damn many of them.

>>182820920
>>182820913
>>182820687

I was just kidding. Even Mirelurks understand commands and I don't think body language and the like would work on insectoids / crustaceans.

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>>182821818
>Implying the Sole Survivor isn't a master persuader

>>182821818
Super Mutants are immortal due to FEV.

Normal deathclaws do not have FEV in them.

Goris could still be alive though due to being infected with FEV by the Enclave.

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>>182820051

>Maybe you should do more of those?

No, thanks. Posting non-Fallout related images is the very definition of shitposting.

>>182820125

Hmm, it could be possible when you say it that way. I don't pay attention to Fallout 3 and I've yet to play Fallout 2.

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>>182822007
Posting images that have no reference to any point in the conversation is the very definition of shitposting

Posting non-fallout images isn't.

If you post an image that isn't from fallout but is still relevant, it's not shitposting.
If you post an image from fallout that has LITERALLY no reason to exist besides it showing off your ugly character is shitposting.

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>replaces normal people with body double synths
>institute: synths shouldnt have free will
>institute: we're the good guys
really makes you think

>>182821949
>Normal deathclaws do not have FEV in them.
The original pre-war experiments didn't but the master picked the project up again and used FEV.

FO4 or NV for mods?

>>182822223
Replying to the shitposters is like shitposting. Ignore it, it's the only way.

>>182822223
you have become the shitposter

>>182822007
>>182822574
samefag

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>>182822396
>synths do now "want", they have no free will
>those who show strong willfullness are handpicked as coursers
awoo?

>>182822461
>The original pre-war experiments didn't but the master picked the project up again and used FEV.
This is wrong

A. The Fallout 2 game guide only says The Master did enetic experimentation on them, it never mentions he used FEV

B. Even back when the Fallout 2 game guide came out, it was pointedo ut that makes no sense becuase nothing in Fallout 1 or 2, not even The Master himself, makes any mention of doing anything to deathclaws, nor does The Master use deathclaws himself, which doesn't make sense if he sepnt so much time experimenting on them.

Game Guides, and the shit in them, are not canon, as they are written by companies like Prima, and not the actual devs.

>>182822641
You really aren't too bright, are you?

>>182822756
Shitposters breed shitposters.
Thats why the waifufags need to leave.

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>>182822396
>>182822642

>synths cannot want. they are not capable of becoming independent
>so, let's send them out to the surface to take the place of independent, wanting people

>>182822479
FO4 for waifusimulation or minecrafting, NV for gameplay.

>>182822875
too bad you will never get what you want, and just shitpost all day about something that's never going to happen

>>182822996
If everyone leaves from the shitposting, then there will be no one to shitpost

>>182822396
Can anyone tell what the point of danse being a synth was? I mean everyone wanted him dead when they found out, thats understandable, but theres no mention or even implication that he was helping them at all like sending intel. Why does no one wonder if danse was replaced recently and instead assume he was been a evil spy working against them all along? And if you side with inst theres no way to make use of your man inside, hell I doubt anyone there remembers putting him there, so what was the point?

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waifu time

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>>182823107
>Can anyone tell what the point of danse being a synth was?

>>182823107
It's heavily implied that Danse was a synth that was liberated and mind wiped by the Railroad.

It makes his story a lot more sad and ironic that not only was he created by BoS enemy #1, The 'Tute, but that he was only able to even LIVE a life in the Brotherhood because of BoS enemy #2, the Railroad.

Poor Danse, not only is your story sad, but it wasn't finished.

>>182823107
They outright state they want Danse dead, even if he wasn't actively a traitor, because of the possibility of the Institute taking control over him at some point, and turning him into one.

He is a walking time bomb, at one of the highest level of the BoS, who knows tons of thier tactics, secrets, and other shit, that could be hijacked a any moment.

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>>182822912
>synths are incapable of becoming independent
>but lets have systems in place to track down synths that go rogue

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>>182823152
Gotcha senpai.

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>>182823340
looks pretty bad

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>>182823107

Maybe they wanted him to be on the inside of the BoS to report to the Institute about what they're doing

Then maybe radiation or trauma messed up his chip and he has amnesia?

>>182817542
Someone post the fanfic where the girl gets fucked by deathclaws and enjoys it so much she becomes their broodmother

>>182823107
They propbably thought they could wring some emotional response out of you or whatever i don't know i was to busy picking up hotplates.

>>182822223
What about posting an image as a identifier like piperfag does so people know it's him talking?

>>182822642
>>182822396
Beth writer 1: We need a new faction
Beth writer 2: Well MIT is in the area, what about doing something with that?
Beth writer 1: A suppose, but how would a smart, sciency faction contrast to the BoS
Beth writer 2: Oh I know, make them like the Enclave, with hatred for most regular wastelanders
Beth writer 1: Nah, we need a NEW faction, what about making them have slaves, people liked the Legion, right?
Beth writer 2: I still think they should hate wastelanders, and also they should live in opulence to really drive home how selfish they are.
Beth writer 1: OH. I have an idea, make the slaves robots, but have them be sentient, that way the BoS can preach about 'Technology run amok" and we can have another faction that likes the robots
Beth writer 2: Fantastic Idea, lets figure out the details later
Beth writer 3: Hey I'm working on the main quest and I need somewhere to put the PC's kidnapped child

>>182822957
Thanks

>>182823570
>fanfic
>when there are mods for that

Stop! Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see.

>>182823670
>I still think they should hate wastelanders
Except they don't hate wastelanders, in fact, most of them show pity for the people of the surface, and the terrible conditions they live in.

>>182823664
avatarfaging
also shitposting and bannable

At least they should use a fucking trip or something so people can filter them. That's the worst part. Can't filter a faggot that is shitposting

>>182823340
would rape/10

>>182823359
I understand that, it makes total sense they want to kill him, but that whole quest and plot point for the brotherhood is totally meaningless when in an insititute play through, when they are in an all out war with eachother, you can't use Danse to sabotage them, you would assume in such a dire situation you would have such an option to use this useful asset, but no they don't let you

>>182823801
Pity as in "pity these primitive subhumans are going to die out soon" i guess.

>>182823340
>>182823152

how did you avoid the giraffe neck that comes with making a character look younger?

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>>182823972
Don't be fooled anon it's just a primitive head mesh port.

>>182823801
they treat them like fucking animals and probably would have used THEM as slaves if they could jam a shutdown phrase into their skulls
they see them as subhuman

>>182823829
He used to ask if people wanted him to trip but everyone said no. /fog/ used to be a really nice place. Fucking /v/ermin.

>>182823917
No, they show actual pity for them.

They just don't care about helping the surface because they already tried too, the people of the surface destroyed it, and then turned around and blamed it on them, then spent the next several decades blaming the Institute for everything that went wrong in the Commonwealth, even though they had nothing to do with it, and had, in fact, spent several decades purposefully NOT getting involved with the people of the surface.

Then the Broken Mask Incident happened when someone fucked up the work order, sent a prototype synth to the surface who shot up Diamond City, which in turn shot the surfacer's paranoia to extreme levels, to the point The Institute feared the people of the surface might rally and find some means to attack The Institue, so they took action to stop them from ebign able to do so.

And even then, when they could easily just teleport like 10 Coursers into Diamond City and level the place, they don't, because they have no real desire to harm, or kill, people on the surface.

>>182823801
Actions speak louder than words Anon
>Has the tech to provide food for the wasteland with modified crops and synth Labor
>Kidnaps wastelanders and turns them into Super Mutants that they unleash on the surface
>Has sleeper agents in place to manipulate the surface
>Plans to kill a family that farms an experimental crop for zero reason since they didn't even know what they were growing

The institute isn't on the Enclave's level of "Murder all the impure," but they have a low value of wastelander life and X6-88 says he hopes the surface dwellers die out.

>>182823801
>in fact, most of them show pity for the people of the surface, and the terrible conditions they live in.
THEY SHOW PITY IN THE FORM OF UNLEASHING THEIR ABOMINATIONS UPON THEM IN HOPES THAT THEY'LL BE A GOOD DISTRACTION.

THE TERRIBLE CONDITIONS OF WHICH THEY'RE A PARTY TO BY HAVING SYNTHS MAIM AND KILL JUST TO GET PIECES OF SCRAP FROM SETTLEMENTS.

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>>182824258
>no real desire to harm or kill surface dwellers
>release super mutants that kill indiscriminately
>bodyswap people
>stir up paranoia so people kill each other in fear that others are synths
You can't make this shit up. Institute fags are delusional.

>>182824604
All of which was reactory stemming from the inability of the people of the surface to come togeather, and not fuck eachother up, during the CPG incident, as well as blaming The Institute for all of their problem between the fall of the CPG, and the Broken Mask Incident decades later, when the Institute was, at the time, not doing anything.

Everything The Institute has done has been a reactionary measure against a group of people who have shown no desire to make any sort of attempt to play nice.

>>182824258
The only reason they didn't level Diamond City is because with McDonough, they already control it. The cunts leveled University Point for some tech that they could have gotten for some caps. I'm not saying everyone in the Institute is evil, most of them are just harmless scientists fucking gorillas, but their leadership leaves a lot to be desired

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>>182823829

>>182824809
>The cunts leveled University Point for some tech that they could have gotten for some cap
Actually, Kellogg leveled University Point because he believed the people were lying to him, saying that they didn't have the data, when he had credible information that the girl who supposedly found it had talked to merchant caravans about selling the data to Diamond City for a higher price.

The Institute sent him there to buy the data, and he offered to do so, Kellogg, only did what he did because he believed there were tyring to double cross him.

>>182824783
Here's the thing though, these are supposed to be the smartest people in the commonwealth and you think it's okay that they act like fucking idiots. The shit they do doesn't make anything better in any way.

They want to rule the commonwealth, yet they do it in such an incompetent way that it makes me wonder if any of them even can activate their walknut shaped brain located on their hips.

Commonwealth plebs may be retarded but they didn't have the upbringing the institute autists did.

So what's going on in your game, /fog/? Who are you traveling with now? What was your biggest encounter today, how did it go? What's your next move in the wasteland going to be?

>>182824783
>Everything The Institute has done has been a reactionary measure against a group of people who have shown no desire to make any sort of attempt to play nice.
Except we know this is false because until CPG the wastelanders were just cautious around them because of their reclusive nature.

They never explained the situation at the CPG leading to its shootout and destruction so of course blame is going to be levied on them as they were the only ones with a representative that lived and never said what really happened. You don't garner any trust by walking out of a smoldering building with bodies everywhere and expect everything to be hunky dory.

Broken Mask is most definitely their fault. It's a byproduct of their experimenting and their scientists wanting to see how well it performed.

>>182823545
>2560x1600
I didn't know people still bought 16:10 monitors.

>>182825109
>sending Kellogg to do anything besides kill
Proof right there that they are retarded.

>>182825253
>What's your next move in the wasteland going to be?
collect all the deskfans i can get while helping settlements i guess.

>>182825238
>They want to rule the commonwealth
Except they don't ou fucking moron, and everyone tells you so.

The only thing the Institute wants is to be left alone.

They have no desire to rule the surface, and only interfere because of groups like the Railraod stealing their property, and the people of the surface being paranoid asshats that are risking the safety of the Institute.

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>>182825292

Well its 7 years old and I don't want to get another one yet. Still works fine. Absolutely no dead pixels.

>>182824783
The Institute's biggest sin is inaction. They let raiders and shit dominate the Commonwealth, and then as a result the only shit people hear about them is shit like Broken Mask. If the Institute had synth patrols wiping out raider encampments and didn't produce super mutants, the commonwealth could be a reasonably safe place, and people probably wouldn't hate them. Hell, why not use the vast armies of raiders to experiment on, two birds one stone right there. But no, all the factions needed to be morally grey, so instead of toning down the institutes capabilities, they double down on it and make them make dumb choices

>>182825287
>y never explained the situation at the CPG leading to its shootout
You have literally zero evidence of this.

And even if they did, do you REALLY think the wastelanders would have bought the idea that their community leaders killed each other over petty disagreements, and that it wasn't some plot by The Institute?

>Broken Mask is most definitely their fault. It's a byproduct of their experimenting and their scientists wanting to see how well it performed.
Except this is objectively flase also, as we know, for a fact, The Institute DIDN'T want to send the synth out to the surface i nthe first place.

They had no plans to test it in that manner at all.

>>182825439
>they don't want to rule the commonwealth
>except they hijack dcr and broadcast that they will kill anyone who gets in the way of what they want to do
>also all resources that they want belong to them
>not ruling
Sure they don't care about every little thing but controlling the resources and having the right of way on any civilian is the basis of ruling.

>>182825589
>You have literally zero evidence of this
Not that anon but neither do you.

>as we know, for a fact, The Institute DIDN'T want to send the synth out to the surface
No, all you have is a holotape of the Director sperging out at one of the Division leaders as to why that Synth was send up without her permission.

>>182825109
>some asshole trader
>reliable
Now that you mention that, think that Trashcan Carla is inadvertently responsible for the massacre of an entire settlement?
Also if Kellog wasn't a psychopath he could just teleport in like 5 gen 1's and they'd give him whatever he wanted

>>182825527
They wrote the institute as the worst kind of faction so only people that didn't pay attention or didn't care could side with the "slavers". The institute is written worse then 1920s mustache twirling cartoon villains.

>>182825423
This, it's surprisingly comfy

>>182825772
Why are the traders in 4 such terrible human beings? Aside from daisy and KLEO of course.

>>182825627
>except they hijack dcr and broadcast that they will kill anyone who gets in the way of what they want to do
And they also say they don't care about the daily lives of the people of the surface

And the Institute only wants the fucking Berillium Agitator so they can achieve self sustaining existence so they don't have to bother the people of the surface.

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>>182825898
>comfy

>>182825954
>>182825772
Traders have always been squeezed for information, it's feudalism 101 and they have never had a choice about it.

>>182825737
>No, all you have is a holotape of the Director sperging out at one of the Division leaders as to why that Synth was send up without her permission.
Which is literally proof is wasn't meant to be sent to the surface.

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>>182825772
>can find out that all of the caravan traders are paid institute informants
>potentially a RR character
>can never talk to anyone about it

>>182826017
I fucking said that in my post. And if you think they won't demand the release of any resource they feel they need them your delusional. The institute doesn't have any qualms killing for resources.

>>182826110
Which is also proof that Institute scientists DID send it to the surface.

>>182825954
almost all of them are institute plants or presumably jaded from all the fuckery in the world
also KLEO has a plan to kill everyone in Goodneighbor, so there's that.
Daisy is a best, and Arturo is nice enough. Most of the chem dealers are chill if you don't object to chems

>>182826110
That doesn't mean that at all. It's proof it wasn't approved, not proof it wasn't intended. Sure the order didn't come from the top but I doubt it was really an accident.

>>182826110
No it's literally proof that the Director is angry that somebody approved of a deployment without her approval, everything else is just conjecture on your part.

>>182826249
>Which is also proof that Institute scientists DID send it to the surface.
No, its proof that, as stated i nthe holotape, someone got the work order mixed up, and it got sent to the surface when it wasn't supposed to.

It didn't even have to be a scientist who made the mistake.

>>182826361
>not proof it wasn't intended
Unless you can provide any evidence to show that it was, the fact that its stated it wasn't, in a holotape no one expected you to find, that was made decades before you awoke, shows that it was not.

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I've seen a lot of comparisons between the two so I wanted to try a crack at it. What do you guys think, which wins?

i mean obviously the chemical plant but whatever

>>182826361
They definitely circumvented the Institute leadership, so at worst It wasn't something everyone agreed on and at best it was some rouge jerkoff doing something the others knew would go wrong

>>182826273
She's an assaultron. Of course she has a plan to kill everyone. She just doesn't because she is a good girl. Arturo always rubs me wrong for some reason. If I didn't know any better I'd think he's a synth, but we know he isn't.

>>182826494
>as stated i nthe holotape, someone got the work order mixed up
No that's actually not stated in the holotape.

>>182826494
Institute is nothing but scientists with some labor bots.

Stop handwaving that your buddies are murderous amoral sociopaths.

>>182826502
Nuka plant has powered combat armor, increasing the power of the character, while the chemical plant only has impotent poison. Gotta give it to the Nuka plant

>>182826494
>boss is yelling at you
>I didn't do nuffin bawss, it wuz an accident!
You obviously are too young to work or just a perfect little snowflake, rule 1 of getting yelled at by a superior is to act incompetent if blaming someone else isn't applicable.

I'll believe someone at the institute wouldn't do something like that the day that the institute makes sense.

should I kill preston

>>182826869
>that the day that the institute makes sense.
Name one thing they do that doesn't have a logical reasoning behind it

>>182826578
He's a Mexican in Boston 200 years after civilization collapsed and the roads fell to pieces. Pretty much the only one you encounter who has an accent, and he has no family or any other community of latinos from which he would have picked it up.

It rubs you the wrong way for the same reason Cait and the Bobrovs do, they don't belong.

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>>182826502
>nuka cola
>some sugary beverage that makes your piss glow in the dark
>delicious

>>182826578
Arturo provides for his family and enjoys his job are you jealous Anon

>>182826797
but the rings in the chemical plant prevent the user from dying as long as they have one (and thats not even mentioning the shield monitors scattered around the plant)
sonic could easily take out a powered armor combatant in anywhere from 1 to 8 hits

>>182826983
Fucking synth gorillas

>>182827002
>they don't belong.
Not him, but cross country travel is a known occurace.

Likewise, we know travel from Europe to America, because Europe is an even more devastated shithole then America is, and people move to America to live better lives, is also a thing.

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>>182827005
people are trying to have a discussion here, Festus

>>182826983
Scientist with a heavy interest in genetics wiping out several dozen perfectly preserved and unique specimens of pre-war DNA.

>>182827130
See, I don't like the other guy because he's a 'tute buttboy but the Gorilla synths are explained well.

They're an experiment into bringing back extinct species.

>>182827391
Now THIS is a damn good argument.

>>182827391
The Institute didn't care about pre-war DNA outside of Shaun because Shaun, and his family, were the biggest source of related DNA in Vault 111, making them the largest viable sample size for the synth projects, and keeping everyone else in thier tubes, and powered, only served to damage the long term viability of their backups by draining power that could be used to keep the backup's pods active longer.

>>182827449
>brining back extinct species
>by making synth gorillas that can't reproduce
Shit is a waste of resources and time.

>>182827029
Perhaps, but the power armor also has offensive abilities, and we all know Sonic is a glass cannon. assuming no other gear is brought in by Fallout 4's Player character, Sonic might win; if outside gear is a factor, the Fallout 4 character will win due to Sonic having to evade weapons fire, the gatling laser especially, as it throws up a barrage of light-speed lasers, unavoidable in 2-D

>>182827667
>he hasn't seen Jurassic Park
>He doesn't understand why letting artificial creations reproduce is literally the most dumb fuck idea ever

>>182827565
So instead of brining the vault resident to the institute to further the possible gene pool there with reasonable like minded people they just killed them all. Every one of those people in the vault could have had specialized knowledge that could have benefited the institute.

>>182827565
>they didn't care
That's not how science works anon.When you're faced with a unique sample of a pretty much extinct species you don't just flush it down the toilet because you don't know what to do with it NOW.
You take samples for future purposes.

>>182827753
At least it's a better use of resources to make Dino's that can fuck vs apes that can't. What possible reason could you provide for making synth apes that can't reproduce other then showing off the size of your dick?

>>182827824
I mean they evidently didn't even take bloodsamples for testing.
Imagine stumbling across a subspecies you thought extinct and just killing them because what's the use.

>>182827742
but if sonic were able to move around in the 3D space of the plant, he would be incredibly hard to hit. also, in sonic 2, he had tails with him who could tank many lethal hits

sonic could also use the invincibility franes after being hit by the gatling laser to pick up his rings and get a cheap hit in a few seconds because of how slow the PA moves in comparison to full speed sonic/tails

>>182827565
They only needed Shaun at first because he was untainted by radiation, and with Pre-war records sketchy, the baby was the best bet, as there was pretty much zero chance of radiation exposure, compared to an adult who could have worked with radioactive materials in a factory job (Corvega plant close to the Vault). There was no reason to actively destroy the other backups, since why have one backup when you could have like 23.

>>182827824
>So instead of brining the vault resident to the institute to further the possible gene pool there with reasonable like minded people
Are you implying they had the space/resources to house all the pepple of Vault 111 at the time?

Are you implying the people of Vault 111 would have been "like minded" to a bunch of people who kidnapped others and forced them to undergo FEV experiments?

>Every one of those people in the vault could have had specialized knowledge that could have benefited the institute.
Except they had Vault-Tec's records, which is who they found Vault 111, and knew of Shaun in the first place, which would have shown them everyone in the tubes was just some average joe

>>182828168
>since why have one backup when you could have like 23.
Because those backups didn't have related DNA to the primary subject, which means their DNA couldn't have been used to finish the synth development in case Shaun died.

You know, the reason why the plan was to keep both of Shaun's parent's alive as backups.

>>182828168
news flash, everyone in vault 111 was exposed to radiation, except for the employees.

that bomb went off, right, and the dust blows past you as you go into the elevator, right? guess what. before that dust even got to them, they were each doused in a small gatorade cooler of radiation

>>182828195
>average joes don't have specialized knowledge
You could be top of your class at Harvard and still not know how to fix a car you retard. There's a ton of things average joes know how to do that smart shitheads don't.

>>182828195
>Are you implying they had the space/resources to house all the pepple of Vault 111 at the time?
Are you implying they don't? There's like two dozen pods in the vault.
How big are the residential quarters of the institute? Outside of the concourse i mean.
We know from H2-22 that there's a vast network of tunnels and facilities beyond the iconcourse.

>>182828074
If Tails gets brought in, I bring Danse in. Laser rifle plus power armor make him a more effective tank than Tails and he can provide suppressing fire to my back, or we each take a corner and fire away

>>182828424
> There's a ton of things average joes know how to do that smart shitheads don't.
None of which is useful to The Institute or its goals.

>>182828351
Wrong, no one was exposed. It's completely safe to look at a nuclear blast, too.

You go through a radiation detector as you enter the vault, comes up clean.

>not interested in discussing realism in a post apoc game with talking mutants and ghouls

>>182828471
>We know from H2-22 that there's a vast network of tunnels and facilities beyond the iconcourse.
For synths.


>Are you implying they don't?
Given that all they do is complain about how strapped they are for resources now, yes.

I worked some more on my poem about Cait. I plan on writing one to her, but for now just about her:

Though surely /fog/ will denigrate,
my love for her I must annotate.

What she saw in me I can not speculate,
but this venture I dare not terminate.

Her trust in me I mustn't misappropriate,
the thought of which only serves to nauseate.

From her old life she was emancipate,
through the vault her addiction did evaporate.

No happier was I when my love was reciprocate,
I'd be dead if my love she did repudiate.

The joy she instills I could not anticipate,
to this day we are amalgamate.

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>>182828351
It's fine they got below the lip of the vault hole in time

>>182828479
but sonic 2 sonic doesn't even get the choice to bring in tails. in normal playthroughs of sonic 2, tails is always present until death egg zone.

danse is entirely optional in fallout 4 and is not located in the bottling plant

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>>182828313
>the institute bioscience division has exactly ONE possible use for a diverse library of Pre-war DNA

>>182828590
>For synths.
Says who? You?

>Given that all they do is complain about how strapped they are for resources now, yes.
Strapped for Food? Water? Air? Space? Says who? You?

>>182823541
had to

>>182828313
That reason is sketchy at best, since a change of genetic code even that much could mess with results. They still had no reason to let the rest die since there was enough juice in the vaults reactor to power that biggass elevator

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>>182828580
>visit vault 81
>20% of my healthbar irradiated
>go through the scanner
>"looks clean"

>>182828809
>Says who? You?
H2-22 and Glory both mention that the tunnels are used by synths to keep them out of sight.

>Strapped for Food? Water? Air? Space? Says who? You?
Many people in The Institute, are you retarded?

>>182828903
The elevator wouldn't be as energy draining as 20+ cryopods on all the time.

The elevator was on lockdown anyways, and couldn't even be used by anyone anyways.

>>182828480
>nothing ever breaks down at the institute
Nigger you have to be trolling, you can't be this retarded. Have my last (you)

>>182829235
>nothing ever breaks down at the institute
Where did you get this dumb ass straw man?

Not to mention, we see they already know how to fix everything in The Institute itself, they even programmed early Gen synths to do it.

>>182828694
2v1 is kinda unfair, namely since most of Fallout 4: Nuka World is optional. I could just kill the raiders and have no reason to go there. If choice is a factor, then the fallout PC would only have the armor and whatever else is scavenged. Without any perks either. If that's the case, I hide from the enemies and let Sonic fight the Mirelurks while gathering enough scrap to upgrade my armor at the power armor station in the plant

>>182829234
All the tunnels? All the places the tunnels lead to? Where do the humans of the institute outside of the concourse live? Or are the 12 humans in the concourse the only humans? That doesn't seem likely.
How big are the residential quarters anon? How big is the Institute population? How much water, food and air do they consume?
I need those informations from you considering you say they can't house 24 people.

>>182829547
>Where do the humans of the institute outside of the concourse live?
They live in the Concourse, no one lives outside of it, as shown in the game itself.

>I need those informations from you considering you say they can't house 24 people.
No you don't, all you need is the information provided in game, which has them constantly saying they are constantly strapped for resources in general.

>>182829234
>The elevator wouldn't be as energy draining as 20+ cryopods on all the time.
Yeah i would like to point out here that the whole "they needed to shut down the pods to save energy" argument is entirely made up.

>>182829547
>Or are the 12 humans in the concourse the only humans?
Not that Anon, but imagine:
>Institute feared by majority of commonwealth
>Attracts BoS because of their tech level
>When [FACTION] storms their base, it's 12 assholes in a nice atrium area

>>182829707
>They live in the Concourse, no one lives outside of it
What, just 12 people? That seems kinda small. Also an incredibly tiny genepool. Imagine the inbreeding, jesus. I mean on the one hand i have to agree with you then that trippling their population would be a drain but on the other hand they sure could use some new juice if you catch my drift.

>as shown in the game itself
But the tunnels H2-22 mentions aren't shown in the game either unless you consider the abandoned robotics complex connected to bioscience or the FEV labs being the tunnels H2 mentions.

The point i'm trying to make is that you're just pulling shit out of your ass to try to make it fit your argument.

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>you will never fill Katy Pinn's classroom with your children

>>182830247
>ywn fill Katy Pinn with your children

>>182830362
yes, that was the double entendre

>>182830226
>The point i'm trying to make is that you're just pulling shit out of your ass to try to make it fit your argument.
So says the guy literally making shit up about how the Institute works, in direct contradiction to thinks stated in -game, just to perpetuate this dumb idea that the Institute were JUST SO MEAN! for killing the people of Vault 111 when they OBVIOUSLY could have taken them in!

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>>182830247
>>182830362
>beastiality

>>182830485
>never having split the dark oak

I just feel bad for you my man.

>>182830431
No i actually wasn't the anon who stated that they should have been able to take them in, i'm merely challenging your assumption that they couldn't have taken them in.

And no, the institute chick merely saying they are always strapped for more ressources because the institute is always expanding isn't your go-to escape argument.

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Are there any mods that make the game economy less shit? I'm sick of doing quests for 300 caps while the vendors charge upwards of 10K for decent gear when with max Cap Collector and 11 Charisma. Or should I just give myself 100,000 caps with the console and pretend I actually got paid decent money for basically ruling the Commonwealth?

>>182831576
>Are there any mods that make the game economy less shit
Yeah, several actually, but they all fix it by giving you LESS caps and loot .Because you have to be an absolute windowlicking retard to ever be strapped for cash in FO4.

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>>182830485
>Bestiality

Reminds me of this

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>>182831576
>finds out you're a pre-war vault dweller who's been in the wasteland for all of a few weeks
>asks you to clear a library bursting at the seams with super mutants
>offers you 200 caps, the price she'd sell you a six-pack of water bottles for, to get the job done

>>182823152
Is this ported from the Skyrim mod? Did you do it yourself or is it hosted somewhere?

I'm considering porting Ayane's succubus outfit but honestly modding for FO4 is kind of meh.

>>182832053
>pay up KLEO, you did bet i could never find a retard willing to fight 50 supermutants to return a book for me

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>>182832050
ONE JOB

Cait an uggo and a shit. A shit!

>>182832050
>no dogmeat romance
Not if Loverslab has a say in this!
and somebody there can actually be arsed to mod this shit

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>see rolling lightning in the distance
>rad storm blows in
>leaves a blanket of fog after it clears up, right as dawn rolls around

comfort levels are off the charts.

>>182831576
>I'm sick of doing quests for 300 caps
Are you suggesting that questing is by any means an even remotely primary means of making money in this game?

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>>182834560
>>182831576

I just do quests for fun desu

I make all my caps from being the Commonwealths sole provider of clean water

>>182832485
>>182832757
>>182812313
>>182823475
>>182814162

Reminder that Doggo only lives ~12 years average, less in the harsh environment of the wasteland, and the last 2-3 will be in agony from arthritis and hip dysplasia

>>182834658
Clean water should be free, capitalist scum.

>>182831576
This
>>182834658
The only thing you get out of quest monetary wise is experience. Besides, the game drowns you in caps via bullets and Chems since every raider is a walking armory and pharmacy. If you are broke stop buying pointless shit.

>>182834658
>I make all my caps from being the Commonwealths sole provider of clean water
besides those purfiers that every major settlement has

>>182834658
>implying Sheng Kawolski doesn't have a captive clientele in DC

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>>182834753
It is if you can build your own purifiers and defend them from raider hoards. This is America. Fuck off commie.

>>182834658
Doesn't this retcon the entire plot of f3?

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>>182834753

Well. My settlers all get free drinking water, and all the caps I get with the excess go towards basically funding the Minutemen.

Everyone in my settlements now has an M60 and a full box of ammo to keep them and their families safe.

>>182834989
No, because, as stated in Fallout 3, the D.C. region has unusually pervasive radiation that other areas don't.

OFC, talking to NPCs is so fucking RPG, and who does that in an RPG?

>>182834989
>Bethesda
>caring about the lore from past games
Bethbabbies are just as bad as obsidiots.

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>>182834753
I deliver it for close to at cost. I just want to cover the purifiers themselves, pay the people who walk the trade routes, and put food on my own table. Past that I don't make very much money per sale, because I want the water to be available and obtainable for everyone. Which is my overall goal in all this.

Raiders basically setting up bases near my settlements, attracted by all this water, doesn't help though.

>>182834989
purifier tech was leaked from the Institute by Virgil or Madison in the intervening 10 years and distributed across Mass

>>182835078
^This

Ever region on the East Coast has its own radiation induced environmental thing

-D.C. has radioactive water that can't be filtered out via normal methods
-The Pitt has its radioactive environment that was further contaminated by the toxic chemicals from all the factories, causing Trogg syndrome.
-The Commonwealth has rad storms from the Glowing Sea
-Far Harbor has radioactive fog
-Point Lookout has radioactive swamp gas bubbles.

So is Hancock the only post war ghoul that exists?

>>182835035
>Everyone in my settlements now has an M60
That reminded me of this for some reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6LNAOBzP6w

>>182835470
Uhh no?

Where on earth did you get the idea that he was?

>>182835035
>Not giving everyone a plasma caster

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>>182835645

I'd have to save up for a long time to be able to do that

I actually read another anon's idea of making robot provisioners to "Patrol" the entire game world. I have one hub settlement sending robots to 30 other settlements. If I made 2 other settlements with 30 bots each going to each settlement, I'd have an entire network of robots ruling the streets and keeping everyone safe!

>>182835532

Heh

>>182836030
What if every settlement had a robot going to every other settlement?

>>182836703
You would wind up with supply lines not working as intended

Creating a supply network with two overlapping circles (A → B → C → D → A and A → C) can make some of the settlements have their food/water set to 0. To fix this, one needs to remove one of the circles and then activate the workshop at the affected settlements to update their resources.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Supply_line

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>>182836703

The supply line map would look like a web of yellow.

Probably also I'd walk into downtown D.C. and see 200 sentry bots trying to kill one feral ghoul. I should have made a webm of 20+ sentry bots surrounding a building from all sides, too phat to go into the front door. The building was absolutely black from all the missiles hitting it. Every time this 1 feral ghoul ran by a window they'd begin firing. They eventually killed it, but it took them like 7 minutes. Then they all went their way to their destinations.

>>182827229
Did anyone else find Festus the most unsettling thing about New Vegas?
>>182835470
The Barber in Underworld is a recent ghoul, he used to live in Rivet City so he could be very young as a ghoul. Gob also seems young, actually the only one from FO3 that is sure pre-war is Carol I think. In FO4 they'd be more common because it's a link to the pre-war Sole Survivor. NV I think most ghouls were considered pre-war but a few were more recent like the ones from the vault.
>>182837305
They were just doing their judicial and righteous duty of keeping the trade routes clean of trash.

>>182837510
>Did anyone else find Festus the most unsettling thing about New Vegas?
The plot, and the fact they honestly expected me to take it seriously, was more unsettling.

>>182837510
>Did anyone else find Festus the most unsettling thing about New Vegas?

I kinda liked it, he felt more like an actual theme park pseudo sci-fi thing than the robots in Nuka World.

If the New Vegas team needs help putting Festus in FO4, I could probably help em out, too. His face and mouth were animated though.

>>182837825

That story about the "Mysterious stranger" dying to "bandits" also creeped me out. I guess that was their subtle way of implying the saloon owner killed the guy for the formula.

>>182838112
I meant the plot of NV, not the plot of Sunset Sarsaparilla.

>>182838010
Oh yeah I wasn't implying I didn't like Festus, I thought it pulled off that old animatronic vibe perfectly; got a old Showbiz Pizza Band vibe from him.

Cait looks like my alcoholic neighbor that keeps asking me for money.
Piper is ok, can't stand by her principles though.
Curie is a dumb nagging nanny and I hate her even though her accent is hot ("we don't need this junk!" "is this fusion core leaking!" "don't drink dirty water!" etc)
Ada is great
KLE0 is the best

By the by, can I use my hacker perk to get KLE0 to trade/work at my settlement? I took her there, but can't get rid of her now. She keeps following me unless I shut her down.

>>182839294
>Cait looks like my alcoholic neighbor that keeps asking me for money.

that's kinda sad
also tell your neighbor to fuck off.

>>182839294
you robot fuckers are weird

>>182839353
What's said is that I notice the same emptiness in my eyes the neighbor and cait have, even on photos where I genuinely smile.

And I don't drink that much.

>>182839542
>>182839294
Seek help.

>>182839620
I'm just waiting for my Sole Survivor to come if you know what I mean ;)

>>182839294
Anon, help her out. Not with money, but with time. Show her you care. That's what some people really need.

You guys are all a bunch of FAGGOTS

>>182839872
Only if she can shoot straight.

So now that Fallout 4 has implemented basically every major mod mechanics based mod from Fallout 3 and NV, as well as most of the early Fallout 4 mods, as official content, what do you think they will do for Fallout 5?

At this point, the only real thing that has been done mechanically for Fallout 4 is Sim Settlements, which is really just more prefab buildings, something we owuld have gotten anyways.

Like, fully driveable cars is always out there, but that likely wont happen for a number of reasons.

Favorite charcter from each game go:
>Muh water chip
>Muh GECK
>Muh dad
>Muh head
>Muh son
Optional:
>Muh calculator

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Why does everyone online seem to love Old World Blues so much? I found the main story of it rather boring.

Conversely there seems to be an odd amount of hate for Dead Money and I don't really know why. I found the characters and the heist aspect of it pretty engaging.

Are people just frustrated at having to killshot enemies? am I the only one who does that regardless?

>>182840495
Dead Money's biggest problem was that it was an attempt at survival horror, in a game where neither survival, nor horror, were possible, so it just turned into an easy, but teduis, slog.

It didn't help all the character were flat, one notes, whose entire dialogue can be summarized as
>CANT LET GO!

Not to mention is was pretty linear in a lot of aspects

On the other hand, Old World Blues was pretty free form and open, brought back a lot of the "wacky" content that defined the earlier Fallout games, and the characters, while still pretty one-note, where at least a lot more interestingly one-noted then those in Dead Money.

>>182840003
Usury and sodomy.

>>182840003
True storms but more dangerous.

>>182840665
>a brotherhood scribe who has been the subject of cruel experimentation and who can only communicate through vague gestures
>a nightkin with multiple personality disorder, one feral and subservient while the other is articulate but untrusting, trying to break free of the villain's grasp
>a ghoul who was a nightclub entertainer before the war and whose history is deeply tied to the Sierra Madre
>the obsessed, driven former mentor of Veronica, who twisted himself into a monster

vs

>a retarded megalomaniacal brain in a jar
>a senile brain in a jar
>an incomprehensible brain in a jar
>a perverted senile brain in a jar
>another retarded brain in a jar
>a dog murdering senile brain in a jar

Yes I can see why the OWB characters resonate so much more with people.

and yes, I'm being flippant, but they really did not connect with me in any major way. In the end I let them all live but it was almost an arbitrary decision. I could have just as easily gunned the lot of them down and not felt much about it.

I guess OWB is a lot more 'quirky', if that's what you're wanting out of a story I guess more power to you and if you like it that's fine. The freeroaming aspect of it didn't seem particularly exceptional, there's not really anything between locations other than lobotomites, robot dogs, and robot scorpions, and none of those are any more particularly interesting on their own than any other random enemy. At least the ghost people in Dead Money had kind of erratic movement that could make them slightly difficult to pin down in a fight, and yeah when you get used to it it's not a big deal

I just don't see why people act like OWB is such a massively great thing, honestly. The Big Empty just seemed, well... empty.

>>182842010
>>a brotherhood scribe
three words in and you were already wrong, she's a Circle of Steel assassin.

>hurr durr I'll just oversimplify the dlc characters I didn't like so they seem worse than all the others

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>>182837090
>This is the perfect ideology
>No one has been able to get it to work in real life

>>182842010

What pissed me off the most about Dead Money were the radio + bomb thing

Gave me flashbacks to other games that did that kind of shit. Only thing that would have made it worse would be a countdown timer and an underwater portion.

>>182842924
I realize I misspoke slightly, people have been able to get it to work for a time. Then it collapses in on itself creating a worse situation than what it had fixed. Each time this happens the Communist screams about capitalist interference, which is hilarious because if it were such a perfect ideology and way of life it would easily dominate, resist these intrusions and far more instances of people suddenly shifting to it would happen.

Yet this perfect ideology requires every place on globe to simultaneously adopt it, because unless it is allowed to exist in a vacuum it crumbles to outside influences.

>>182843532
>everyone blames everyone else for their shit not working as it should

legit.

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>>182842924
technology wasn't advanced enough for it, but automation will make the workforce completely replaceable.

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>>182844232

Why does she look like Snape?

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>>182844450
dunno, why don't you ask the devs since they designed her?

What to do with the suit I get in the first game encounter where I kill the steroid demon?

Park it outside for later usage then follow the nigger to the promised wonderland by the junkie grandma?

Or walk with the suit on.

Also do corpses stay around there might be 2 - 3 bandits I didn't loot...

>>182844450
Buff, stop feeding that person (you)s. They are a master troll, even you can't handle them.

>>182844945
Do whatever you want with it. The game throws enough cores at you that you can use the suit fine so long as you don't sprint. It just depends on what you want to do. Corpses stay around for a few days.

>>182845038
I will walk with it until it goes to 0 energy then.

If I don't run just use normal walk it consumes 0 energy - I can just badass slow walk and nuke everybody.

>>182844450
RIP in peace Alan Rickman, you glorious bastard

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