/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>182906354
It's not about the amount of money, it's the principle of the matter. Why should someone be paid money to set up free recording software available to anyone, point a webcam at his face and play video games?

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>>182906476
Based proper op

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>He gets mad that other people have different opinions
>He gets mad that other people like what he doesn't like
>On the internet

Wew

>>182906716
Off to a good start, you insufferable faggot

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>Tfw when ENB sub-humans think they have a place here shilling like massive queers.

>>182906716
>having to use that much estus
I'd like to see a similar webm from someone who's not a shitter.

Dark souls 2 is a shit game, stop posting content related to it

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>Performs Duel Bow on entry
>Beckons you over to heal you
>Uses the Heide Spear, Disc Chime, and arguably one of the most fashionable sets in the entire series
>Can toss around lighting with seemingly little effort
>Is more than willing to help you with Flexile to keep Lucatiel's dumb ass alive, and against the last bosses
>Can take Watcher and Defender, Nashandra, and Aldia all in a row
Truly the best boy

>>182907151
>0 souls
>First try
This will never cease being hilarious, because the only explanation is being so shit as to die to Fume Knight twice while failing to pick up a bloodstain in an arena where the boss takes 10 seconds to spawn.

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>>182906664
ENB may use OBS but he actually rents an office space and pays for business level internet.

And the reason people support him is because they like his content and want to see him keep doing that. If he wasn't making money as a streamer enough for it to be his day job more or less he would fuck off to do something else because he has family to take care of. So I and people like me keep supporting him because we want to continue watching his content especially since he's doing Souls.

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HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO COSPLAY WITH A 15 CHARACTER LIMIT

FUCK YOU FROMSOFT

>>182907508
16

Be creative

>>182906716
It looks so slow.

>>182906874
These generals are not for discussing solely Demon's/Dark Souls, they're for discussing the slasher RPG games made by From in general.

Dark Souls is about as dead as System Shock is. The name of the series may not get new titles by itself, but it's common sense and knowledge that Bioshock is effectively a straight continuation, just as From will make a new game in the future that follows in the steps of Kings Field and Dark Souls but isn't explicitly called Dark Souls.

>>182907303
DaS2 babbies are so desperate to make up any excuse to defend that shitty boss. It's hilarious.

>>182907635
It's a fairly slow boss, but it's fair. He has very few if any bullshit moves, it feels a little like a DeS boss.

Fume Knight is overrated especially challenge wise but if you think he's a shitty boss then you're playing the wrong series.

>>182907635
It is, you can use most 2handed greathammer and UGS R2's to dodge under his swings, you can run circles around him because his attacks have deceptively little tracking, most of his high death ratio came from people trying to go for drinks at shit times and trying to get greedy with multiple hits between combos.

how bad is the estoc now, i want to mess around on a dex character but not sure whether to go mercenary or assassin

>>182908094
It's okay

Assassin is pretty crap, but so is mercenary to be fair.

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Post fashion

>>182906476

>bringing back the old OP when everyone in the old thread agreed the abridged version with a link to the pastebins is better
>didn't even remove any of the dead links

Fuck off you sperg

>>182908031
>trying to go for drinks at shit times and trying to get greedy with multiple hits between combos
Which happens with every boss in every game in the series. It's not Raime's fault that people underestimate him.

That being said, Raime does have that quirk in his AI where he'll stop what he's doing and smash you down if he detects you sipping, which Alonne also shares and which they later brought over to be used with Champ. It's just that item usage can actually be punished in DaS2, much less so in DaS3.

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>>182908217

>>182908243
Try actually checking those pastebins, they were filled to the brim with dead/duplicate links and worthless for helping people.

>>182908217
That straight up looks like some forgot to add texture to the armor

>>182907241
>no strong souls bf like bradley to protect me

>>182908159
what starting class should i pick in your opinion?

>>182908469
That's what I mean, some of the pastebins in this OP still have dead links.

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>>182908217
The head looks kind of small compared to the body, and the shine/luster of the two don't quite match.

>>182908424
Pretty good looking, but I'd imagine that Yuria's mask would clash against Drakeblood Armor under different lighting.

>>182908616
Mercenary. Contrary to what a lot of people will say, the extra FP does actually help if you aren't a scrub who only mashes R1, and if you don't need the strength or vitality, you get the most bang out of Mercenary start.

>>182908523
I really like the summons in 2, in that they didn't have much expansion or backstory. It felt like they were just other adventurers in the area, people just like us.
But if I had to choose one person to know more about, it would be that guy. Or Luet, who decided to dual wield Greatshields of Glory, and is almost as happy as Bradley upon success.

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I want to do a playthrought without focusing on Dex, Str or quality build
What do you guys suggest? I was thinking of something like a pyromancer but I keep hearing that they are only good if you go all the way to 120 and they only get good at late game
>>182908217
That silver knight armor is way too sleek for the helmet

>>182908659
Have you tried reading them? Do try actually checking the links here and seeing if they're the same as the ones in the pastebin from the last thread.

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>DaS2 NPC invaders

>>182908873
The base ones, or the Scholar ones? The Scholar ones are far more competent than the others.

>>182908094
You don't have to start as Assassin to get the Estoc, just free Greirat from his cell and straight up buy it from him at Firelink.

>>182908781
Pyro is quite fun, you actually just need to reach Irithyll or so to unlock the vast majority of the good stuff for them. It's not like Faith where you only get good once you reach TRC and beat SoC, or Sorcery where you have to beat Oceiros and access the Grand Archives to unlock the best stuff.

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>>182908671
It's very, very slight. So slight that it doesn't trigger my autism, even.

Would you guys at any point be interested in a complete newbie's run at DaS2?
I know nothing about the game, I don't even know what the first boss looks like. I only know that there are lots of more than 1 boss.
I don't know what weapons are good.
You can watch me fumble around for a good while.
I got the the end of DeS, near the end of DaS, half way through DS3 so unfortunately I'm not new to the concepts.

>>182909340
https://imgur.com/a/gj2Bo

>>182909340
I'd watch but I'm about to head to bed and I'm a dumb phoneposter who can't watch anything on mobile.

>>182909340
Yeah, let's see it

>>182908781
Pyro is ridiculously strong and has a bunch of viable melee options with both unique weapons and Dark infusion.
Faith is easily the most versatile, a "faith" build could mean a bunch of different things.
Sorcery takes quite a bit of skill for successful solo PVP. Try a Heysel Pick build, it's really fun, but not really for sub-SL80 build because it needs 60 INT to shine.

>>182909340
>no commentary unless your voice is pure sex
>no shilling after the first link is posted
>one donation mention and I'm gone
Any of those, it's fine.

>>182908810
If you are going to try to change up the OP, the burden is on you.

>>182909091
Well that's good to know, an spell I've always wanted to try is the flying fireball that shoots people
Is it doable to use the Onyx blade on a pyromancer build?
Hell, can you have both, good output damage from pyromancy and trade some blows?

>>182909958
Onyx Blade was made for pyro builds, it's highly recommended

>>182909958
Pyro is all about combining fireballs with swordplay, you'll be mixing the two regularly. The only real problem with Pyros is that you're stretched really thin for stats since you have to invest heavily in Int and Fai, while also leveling Att and keeping Vigor and Endurance at respectable levels.

Why is Pyro so boring in DaS1?

Why did occult become dark? Occult sounds so much cooler and has actual lore implications.

>>182910717
Because DaS is the land of Poise

>>182910717
Cause it's OP as shit and the only pyro worth using is black flame.

>>182910740
Occult isn't Dark, it was just another form of Magical damage. Even Divine wasn't properly its own thing, it was just Magical damage that scaled with Faith.

Dark didn't even properly exist until DaS2 made it into its own damage type.

>>182910852
>>182910772
Its just boring all around, even PvE its super not good for anything.

>>182911163
>pyro not good in 1.......

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>SotFS ruined dragon aerie by spamming corrosive exploding guys around every corner
Holy fucking why

>>182911534
In PvE, did you miss that part?

>>182911612
>tfw they're even hiding under the dragon's wings

>>182911795
Don't forget about breaking the dragon eggs!

>>182909954
Err, it was more along the lines of screencaps and posts.
I'll probably do it later in the week since I have stuff to do tonight. Just wanted to post while I was thinking about it and get a feel.

>>182911680
No, fire kills most bosses, enemies as well.
>but muh lost izalith
Shits so fast it won't matter for damage.

>>182911612
Who deal zero damage. Just take off your armor/rings, equip a junk weapon and murder them effortlessly.

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>>182908217
id post a webm too, but apparently the new radeon driver update makes relive go from ok to utter irredeemable dogshit. either that or my SSD is beyond fucked.

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Wish there was a more fitting helm but my Berserker armor cosplay is looking decent.

>>182912435
>is looking decent.
ha ha

>>182912114
Try killing Gaping, Quelaag, or Iron Golem with just Pyromancy

>>182912435
i don't know it looks kinda funny

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>>182912558
>>182912641
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Much prefer the other one.

>>182912634
Wow 3 whole bosses....

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Alright, how is this for the Onyx build? I wanna stick to 90 for some good ol' invasions

>>182912832
Drop Strength to 14 since that's all you need to hold Onyx 1H. Your Vigor is also really low for SL 90, take some points out of Vit or lower your INT/FAI to get around 30 at least and maybe some extra endurance. I'd also switch Black Fire Orb to Black Flame.

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>>182908873
>Try silencing Jester Thomas
>He pulls out a sword

>>182912634
>Iron Golem
Uh are you joking?

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In a trade, are poise values round at all, or does every decimal matter?

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>>182913454
>running from ghostly Sanctum Knights with no health to speak of
>right outside Lair of the Imperfect
>"Dark Spirit Jester Thomas has invaded!"
>mfw

>>182913573
Decimals matter

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>>182913057
How about this? I'd like to have enough vit to keep my fashion

>>182907660
no one is defending fume

they're talking about how shit you are

>>182913586
I lost my shit the first time, especially since I missed the switch to access the bonfire right before and had to fight my way through the temple all over again.

>>182913916
That looks acceptable the Vigor is a little low for me still but your Onyx and pyros will do great damage at least.

Are Soul Vessels a thing in DaS3?

>>182907648
>they're for discussing the slasher RPG games made by From in general.

BULLSHIT.

Point me to one place in the last 5 treads where any of you guys talked about
>Otogi
>Ninja Blade
>Kuon
>Evergrace/Forever Kingdom
>Eternal Ring
>King's Field

This is dark souls /demon souls general for a 1 year old franchise. Don't pretend like anyone discuses any other from soft games here except in the context of "XXX did it first"

>>182914073
No, you need to offer Pale Tongues for Rosaria to respec. You don't need to be part of the Covenant or rank up in it, fortunately, I believe you just need the Covenant item itself. You can get it without pissing off Sirris.

>>182908217
>he doesn't use AA override

god that looks so shitty

>>182911612
Lore.

Aldia was petrifying dragons, did you not get that part?

>>182914113
King's Field was the prototype for the prototype of Dark Souls though, it is definitely relevant. It doesn't see much discussion because nobody has played the fucking thing. Doesn't make it less relevant, and the information is there in case somebody wants to take a look at how Dark Souls came into being.

>>182914217
Thanks.

>>182914357
King's Field is relevant but no one discusses it.

King's Field has little/no influence on souls though, except for maybe some of the atmosphere and enemies they copied. Souls combat and level design is all Evergrace/Otogi, with everything else (stats, mechanics, pvp and lore) being just a fantasy version of Armored Core

I never ran a build that used the Lucerne, or used it at all in DaS1. What made it so formidable?

>Reallocating attributes or changing appearance is limited to five times per playthrough.
Why

>>182914730
So that you feel invested, and your actions have consequences.

It's somewhat silly, but there it is.

>>182914683
It dealt thrust damage, so it got counter damage bonuses. However the attacks were really wide-swinging and had long hitboxes, so you were more likely to land those counters than with a spear. Plus it would hit multiple times on some of the swings.

>>182914730
Because From is retarded
You can Alt+F4 right before leaving the covenant window after doing a change and it won't count
But the character I did that with isn't able to summon others players anymore, no idea if it's related to it but I guess it's worth mentioning

>>182914730
>I have never used the respec function

>>182914831
>>182914730
It seems like a last minute add on that someone begged Miyazaki to approve because they didn't want release a game without respecs or deleveling at all, so they just haphazardly slapped it on Rosaria with a 5 use limit.

DS2 did it right by making you feel like you actions had consequence by making you -discover- and -learn how to use- the item that lets you respec, instead of just giving it to you for free but punishing you for using it too many times.

This is how I would have done it:

>Bonfire ascetics, but they cost 5 levels to use. Bosses are respawned at NG+ difficulty/souls and multiplayer is reactivated for that area.
>"respec" by using ascetics to de-level yourself, beat the boss, then level back up.

>>182914831
It just seems weird they would lock it off at five. It's like letting someone go 75% around a ferris wheel before telling them to get off.

Is it like that? It's a little bit like that.

>>182912832
>25 Vigor at SL90
You can stand to drop down to 30/30 since that's supposedly at or near the cap at which Dark and Fire damage scales. Put those points into Vigor and maybe some more Attunement since you won't have enough FP to support casting and doing Onyx's WA.

>>182915135
>>182914730

They wanted to force players into NG+ to get more respecs.

The idea is to prevent people from making "dedicated pvp" characters and forcing you to replay through the main game over again to improve covenant activity, because covenant item-seeking is the only pvp that From wants to reward.

>>182914925
Have you been invaded?

>>182914846
Sounds like something I'd like to try out, can I run real quick to the catacombs and grab it no trouble?

>>182915338
nope, but I can invade and get summoned just fine

>>182915392
Oh yeah, it's not hard at all to rush. Just keep running.

Usually what players do is they rush to the catacombs, grab the lucerne and great scythe, then jump down to vamos and upgrade them to +5 real quick.

Lucerne is a boss-killer though, it's not that great against regular enemies because there's no point in waiting for the counter hits on them and the attacks are slow enough that moving from one enemy to another is kinda wonky. Good to use a longsword and then swap to the lucerne for bosses or invasions.

I want to be a righteous paladin in Dark Souls 1. What are the best miracles and weapons for such a thing?

>>182915480
do you have a password on?

it might also be a firewall issue where it's blocking nodes for summon signs but not for invasions.

>>182916201
Nah, no password, embered, regional matchmaking on, etc
And here is the thing, my other characters DO get summon signs, but this one doesn't

>>182916083
40 strength 40 faith
maces and great hammers
lightning spears and wrath of the gods
great magic barrier
etc

it's pretty simple, and DS1 is probably the easiest game to make a purely offensive faith build in

>>182916523
Not them, but only one greathammer fits the bill as a Paladin's weapon

>>182916820
yeah but grant is shit

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>>182916856
and yet its the only one that doesn't look like its some heathen's up rooted tree, or a petrified dragon turd.

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>>182917086
im glad they fixed that in DaS3

>>182916083
You could use the Crescent Axe

R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1

Running R1

R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1

>>182917210
>*UNZIPS BORTHAMMER*

>>182917417
ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL

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>tfw all of the weapons that you find aesthetically pleasing are shit

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>>182917417
I see you are also a Dark Souls 3 expert

>>182917772
Which ones, anon?

>>182918167
Not that guy, but fucking Winged Knight Twinaxes

It's impossible to hit a motherfucker with them. No reach, no poise, and slow attacks.

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What makes Curved Greatswords not awful?

It feels like they're too easy to dodge, parry and outspace. Also they require a gorillion poise to not get staggered by other ultras.

>>182918231
>no reach
>slow attacks

Also the L2 has poise. The L1s are all you need on that weapon because they have very fast startup and range.

>>182918380
They are the middle ground between greatswords and ultras in damage, speed and range. They also all have generally good WAs, with 20-30 poise on Harald you can tank almost any ultra attack with its WA.

>>182918167
Executioner sword and MLGS in particular. Those are my favorites, but I just can't seem to make them work.

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Anybody want to help me do Oceiros on NG+3?
PS4 LVL 150~

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I know Dark Souls III has a lot of fanservicey moments, but can we all agree this moment was really good?

>>182918794
Executioner's is stuck as an 'alright' Greatsword so there's not much you can do with it that you can't do better with other Greatswords unfortunately. MLGS is perfectly good though, great damage scaling at only 40 INT means you can stack poise like crazy compared to other Greatswords or you can go a full 60 INT caster with it. The R2 beams are pretty shit in PvP admittedly but the WA is great for rollcatching and trades.

>>182918794
MLGS is great. It's got a lot of reach and the charged R2 is super neat for baiting with.

Executioner is mediocre, but it's primarily a PvE weapon.

>>182918808
Fuck no. An area wasted on a half-assed fanservice. It's just a run to a shit boss.

>>182918808
Loved the sound, and Anor londo text. Game didn't fee too samey, just too linear.

>>182919021
Executioner's is okay on a quality setup, and I'm sure that someone is clever enough to use the FP regen to a high extent, the way some use the OWCS HP regen.

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880k SM anon here again trying to get someone to drop me Targray's headpiece on PC Scholar.

>>182918231
Twinaxes are fantastic.

>Host and Phantom
>Phantom is wearing full Havel
>Buffs his Fume Ultra Greatsword with Carthus Flame Arc in between throwing CBVs
>Dies to Pontiff Knight
>Drops 240k souls

For fucks sake

>>182920445
>>182918523
Maybe I'm just shit at using them then

>>182920160
CE. I guarantee nobody has it legitimately without murdering him.

>>182920802
But if someone could just kill him and drop it for me that'd be cool too.

>>182920531
Overlevelled phantoms are hilarious

I got 300k souls from some havelfaggot who scrubrolled off the Carthus ledge once.

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>>182908217
I wanted to go for a character that'd be as simple as a knight can be but I can't seem to find a good helm
I wanted to try elite knight but I didn't do anri's quest and she seems to be gone 5ever

>>182921412
Looks pretty good, 7/10

>>182921412
check the catacombs after you kill certain bosses. The triggers are on the wiki.

>>182922209
I checked the catacombs and the church in Irythill and couldn't find her, I'll probably go back around at some point to make sure I just didn't miss her there or something

How much damage does dark pine resin actually add at SL45-65? I've never looked at the numbers with enough scrutiny to check.

>>182913454
I need those sliders

>>182922914
That's Merciless Roenna, actually, under the Warlock Mask.

>>182922997
Yeah, I know

Does anyone know how to get them with collector's edition?

>>182922320
Check the Cathedral, she might be hollowed over there

>>182922541
it adds 95 damage, and at SL50 you should have ~100 defense,

>If DEF >8x ATK, deal damage equal to 0.10 * ATK
>If DEF >ATK, deal damage equal to (19.2/49 * (ATK/DEF-0.125)^ 2 +0.1) * ATK
>If DEF >0.4x ATK, deal damage equal to (-0.4/3 * (ATK/DEF-2.5)^ 2 +0.7) * ATK
>If DEF >0.125x ATK, deal damage equal to (-0.8/121 * (ATK/DEF-8)^ 2 +0.9) * ATK
>If DEF <0.125x ATK, deal damage equal to 0.90 * ATK

19.2/49 * (ATK/DEF-0.125)^ 2 +0.1) * ATK or 34 damage on a 1HR1.

>>182924514
Neat, thank you very much

Not as bad as I was expecting.

Hey guys, playing Dark Souls on PS3, just beat the Bell Gargoyles with the help of a random guy, and rang the bell, where do I go now? I'm so helplessly lost.

>>182918808
Going through the area after Sulyvahn and the reveal by going up the staircase was hype as fuck. Then the area sucked ass and had imo one of the worst bosses in the series.

DS3 at Evo when? It's better than SFV.

>>182924852
literally anywhere

there's at least 3 other areas available for you to go to, one of which is literally right next to the gargoyles

Is the secret to Dex/Int just infusing Dex weapons with Crystal Gems, and hanging on to the Heretic's Staff?

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>>182908217
/fa/ or nay?

>>182925240
>dragonscale chest
>ever /fa/
at least wear smoughs helmet,

>>182925240
5/10

Dragonscale chest is really hard to work with just because it's so xboxhueg. There aren't any leggings that work, so far as I know. Not even Dragonscale Waistcloth.

>>182925530
sunset works really well with it imo

>>182924957
I'm fighting this thing called The Moonlight Butterfly, how do I kill it? I'm Melee, I can't touch this thing, and it kills me very quickly.

>>182925669
Just don't get hit

>>182925240
trite

>>182918380
they have a good running attack unlike ultras and a 2hR1 - jump attack combo

>>182925669
Either get a bow or crossbow and try to shoot it down, or learn to dodge its attacks long enough for it to come closer. It deals pure magic damage, so if you're using a shield, make sure it has high magic resistance.

The butterfly is optional, but unlocks a shortcut with the reward you get from it.

>>182925710
That's a lot easier than it sounds. This needle like thing it shoots at me is a pain in the ass to dodge

>>182925669
Eventually it rests on the edge of the bridge and you can wail on it for a bit. So just don't get hit by the ranged attacks.

Alternatively, go human and summon the NPC summon Witch Beatrice. She can solo it pretty easily for you.

>>182925669
there's an npc summon who can basically fight it for you otherwise just keep dodging and wait for to it lower itself down to the bridge

>>182925920
I don't think I'm gonna summon. I only summoned for the Bell Gargoyles when I found out there were 2 of em. I screamed at my T.V. "THAT'S FUCKING BULLSHIT" and I don't tend to get mad at games often.

>>182926027
You should read all the stats and practice combat a bit more. How are you building your character so far? Stats? What is your approach against most enemies?

Knight Slayer Ring is hilarious at SL45

So many retards just coming into Irithyll try to block you with their shitty medium shield and get guardbroken in one swing. It's hilarious.

>>182926027
Grab a bow and go to town.

>>182926027
>I only summoned for the Bell Gargoyles when I found out there were 2 of em. I screamed at my T.V. "THAT'S FUCKING BULLSHIT"
Oh boy are you going to be in for a treat later on.

>>182926134
Right now I'm dawning the Knight armor that you find in the place before Moonlight Butterfly cause this thing looks fucking awesome. I love it. Anyways, I'm using the Halberd from Undead Parish, and using the Tower Kite Shield still. I tend to block enemies attacks and hit them when they're ready. I can't parry for shit.

>>182926647
>I can't parry for shit.

go practice on the undead by the parish or in the burg. black knights if you haven't killed them yet. parrying in DaS1 is the easiest in the whole series.

>>182926647
Do you roll much? Rolling protects you from all damage after you do it, it's the main way to avoid damage.

If you are over 50% equip weight though, your roll is very slow and you are vulnerable for a while after you do it. If you stay at 50% or lower, you have a much faster roll. You should stay in that weight class group for now, since a little bit less armor is worth not dodging.

Look at the stats on the tower kit shield. It has only 30% magic damage reduction. That's why you can't block the butterfly's attacks, blocking still lets 70% of its damage come through.

You don't need to parry at all to beat the game, but you do need to roll. At least until you can get enough health, stamina, and strength for a massive greatshield, which can block 80-90% of all damage. Then you don't "have" to roll anymore, but you still should.

Either way, the moonlight butterfly is optional. There's an area that you need to access later (when you're soul level 30-50 probably) in darkroot garden, and there are 3 ways to get it. You can either beat the butterfly, buy the crest of artorias, or defeat the hydra in darkroot basin (which you can get to by taking a right as soon as you enter the garden from the blacksmith).

The next "intended" place for you to go is lower undead burg. There is a key you get before the gargoyles (behind the gate that the armored pig was in front of) which will open the way there. It opens the door at the start of the bridge with the fire dragon (where solaire was).

But you could also go to other places instead, there's the catacombs and new londo ruins, which are by Firelink Shrine. They just don't have much to offer until later in the game when you can progress further.

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what weapon has the same moveset or very similar to the lothric knight greatsword? i don't like the split damage on it.

>>182928135
Profaned Greatsword and Astora's save for the rolling attack and WA.

>>182928135
bass canon, propane greatsword

>>182928135
LKGS does more damage than any other UGS, despite being split. But you have to infuse or use lightning blade on it.

>>182928504
that's the thing tho im on a quality build

you think it would be still worth to use?

>>182928758
It's still pretty great, just put gold pine resin and bundles on it.

>Two phantoms
>Both named 'Ashen One'

And the award for shittiest playthrough of the century goes to...

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>Putting my sign down for Demon Prince
>Host summons 4 phantoms

>Host with three phantoms refuse to enter a room with 3 ghrus when I hide in it
>Go afk for ten minutes
>They're still there when I come back
>Not moving
>They've gone afk
>Kill them all

Does a weapon retain strike/thrust/slash properties when converted from physical damage?

>>182930652
The remaining physical damage does, yes.

Why does the Hard Leather Set look so much worse in 3 than 1? Even in 2 as Pate's Set, it was better than 3.

What's a good way to farm souls in DS3 end-game? I want to stock up on titanite chunks before NG+

>>182931294
grand archives winged knights

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>>182908217

>>182931395

thanks anon

>>182931468
Brigand Gauntlets with Sunset Armor is always a good combination

>>182930936
At least Leather and Old Sorcerer sets still look great.
I miss tidy, clean sets like those. Everything in 3 looks like it's been run over a few times.

>>182931710
I feel like that might have been the point, given the passage of time, but it doesn't make it much better.
Compare the Alva Set between 2 and 3, the one in 3 looks heartily worse for wear.
But it's still a great set.

>>182931710
I don't exactly disagree with you but pristine-looking clothes in any Dark Souls game just seems a little weird.

>>182931468
8/10

Is there any tier list for dark infused weapons?

>>182932007
I've been using this for deciding on infused weapons, but it is a year out of date so I have no idea if it's still accurate
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4ii8lj/heres_a_list_of_all_weapons_that_gain_an_sa/

>>182932007
Lothric Knight Sword is god-tier.

>>182932007
Anything with high Crit Rating is good.
LKS gets over 500 AR and boosted crits at 20/40/40 and compliments the Demon's Scar quite well.

>>182932257
infusions were overhauled a few months ago, it's useless

>>182932007
GOD-TIER: Lothric Knight Sword/Longsword, Saint Bident

Also good tier: Mace, Scimitar, Harald/Exile CGS, Claymore, Red Hilted Halberd, Great Corvian Scythe.

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50 STR, whats gonna be better Greataxe or Great Club (DaS1)? Both seem pretty fun, but club has got reach while Greataxe probably has power

>>182932759
>>182932481
>>182932336
dang all these options

>>182932790
Club.

>>182932481
Chaos crits are better than Dark crits. By a lot.

>>182932893
Great Club does seem to have a better, slightly quicker moveset.

>>182932481
>>182932759
How is the Astora GS on Dark? Or any other UGS for that matter. A/A scaling looks cool, but does it actually perform well?

I'm trying to slap a build together, but I'm not sure what weapon class I should min-max my poise around.

>>182922209
>>182923823
She wasn't in the catacombs but Horace was in the lake, I went and killed him and I managed to snag Anri's shit afterwards.
I don't think it looks any better though

>>182932790
I liked the Greataxe but dear god is its range an issue against bosses that like to move around like O&S. I'd still use it because a big chunk of wood isn't /fa/ but the range will fuck you over.

>>182933640
Astora gets some of the highest dark scaling of the UGS class reaching 619 AR at 16/18/30/30, it's the go to ultra if you want dark memes.

>>182933640
what are you trying to make? a dark poise tank?

>>182933640
654 on 16/18/40/40 split damage (so like ~550 actual damage)
630 on 16/80 single damage.

Despite the high scaling it's still pretty weak when infused.

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tummy

>>182933907
I wouldn't call it a poise tank, I just to be able to take one UGS 2HR1 without staggering if I choose to use a UGS myself. I could also just choose to stop at taking a GS 2HR1 with a Curved GS. The real challence is balancing poise with carry weight and fashion.

>>182934058
I guess a better question is whether I'd rather just be playing on an 80 DEX build if I'm using an Astora GS.

>>182934058
And that's basically what I was concerned about. Good talk, /dsg/.

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>>182921087
ill do it for u
http://steamcommunity.com/id/weedcookies/

>>182934971
waiting for the accept

>>182934683
>I guess a better question is whether I'd rather just be playing on an 80 DEX build if I'm using an Astora GS.

Do you want to use Astora GS to its full potential?

Or do you want to use pyro to its full potential, and have Astora GS's moveset and WA alongside it?

I want to run a dirt farmer cosplay, using the pitchfork and pickaxe. What's the best armor to use to look like a peasant?

>>182936168
Worker set, you blithering moron

>>182936168
>not using the plow

>>182936168
There's literally a whole set for that.

>>182936256
That's what he meant by pitchfork.

>>182936316
>>182936215
I was kinda hoping for something that didn't look like I was a homeless wizard.

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>>182936256
>four-pronged plow
>it actually has five
>it's not even a plow

>>182936429
That is how a peasant looks you idiot

>>182936614
The fifth prong, so easily forgotten

>>182936215
>>182936820
Easy, we're all friends here.

>>182936865
>>182936614
what's the Japanese name? It's a good chance that From doesn't do the english names for weapons but Bandai does during localization

>>182929402
what? it's pretty fun
>kills demon from below first

>>182937290
>put sign down for midir
>host summoned me and two other phantoms
Looks like we're in for the long haul here, lads.

>>182937462
>Host summons four phantoms for Midir
>Three of them die immediately

>>182936916
I'm not your friend, pal

So speaking of infusions, is there ever an use for the Raw infusion? like when the scaling stats are just too shit
i.e. D/D

>>182936614
Maybe it's called a four-pronged plow because one of the prongs is broken off, leaving it with four prongs.

>>182938757
If you want a physical damage weapon to cast DMW on but you don't have any points in strength or dex.

>>182938757
Raw is for vitgouging. It's only really viable at lower SLs, save for maybe Dragonslayer Axe FTH builds

Is there anything more satisfying than hornet backstabbing parry kings?

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>>182938771
But the last prong is still very much on there. It should at the very least be called the Four-and-a-Half-Pronged Plow.

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>fighting NG+6 SoS
>55 damage per hit

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>host fight club
>turns to go really well
>kept toasting the winners
>finally I decide to join
>die
>everyone toasts to my body
Mfw.

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>>182908217

>>182942317
>Polished silver helm
>Light gold armour
>Grey silver gauntlets

Literally 3/10, it's hideous, my eyes are bleeding, kill yourself

>>182942317
your fashion is so shit that I am going to sleep

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>>182942317
My god, I've never seen anything so horrible

>doing better on a fun meme build than when i did a tryhard meta

Invading another world as dark spirit...

lorian's fucking sword has way to much reach. its two hits and youre fucking dead.

>>182943092
Learn to roll, his attacks are all very basic and easy to dodge as long as you're not using an ultra. You should be rolling into him to punish, not away from him to get out of his reach.

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>>182943092
The only thing difficult about that fight is the bullshit teleporting breaking your lock-on and having to find Lorian again before he shoves his sword up your ass.

>>182943015
>A connection Error Occurred
>Returning Home

>>182928758
New to the dsg, what's a quality build?
Is it anything like the level 1 build with raw longsword I'm doing currently in ds3?

Fuck dancer

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Do people really complain about the Bed of Chaos being annoying and bullshit? I just beat him after dying to him once on my first ever playthough of the game.

>>182944161
A quality build uses both strength and dexterity, as opposed to one of the other, named after the quality upgrade path from Demon's Souls.

>>182944298
People complain about it being poor and lazy design and generally a shitty fight.

>>182944161
It means leveling Strength and Dexterity up to 40 each.

>>182944298
>him
And the problem with Bed of Chaos is that it's not actually a boss, it's just a platforming puzzle that relies on RNG. It's easily the easiest and worst "boss" of the four post-Lordvessel bosses, if not the entire game.

>>182944468
Nominating Bed of Chaos for worst boss in the entire series.

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id like to be able to use lightning blade but im with blessed weapon for now. any suggestion on where to go from here?
should i be leveling up strength to a certain level for the SSS or should i just concentrate on faith?
also not sure if 17 endurance is enough.

>>182944642
Gravetendies

Ancient Wyvern

Prowling Magus

That spot has a lot of competition my man

>>182944801
ancient wyvern is more dissapointing than bad. which might be the same thing but there are more bosses that piss me off more. like fucking aldritch.

>>182944801
Royal Rat Vanguard

Covetous Demon

Guardian Dragon

Shulva Gank Squad

Shadows of Yharnam

Micolash

Celestial Emissary

Living Failures

Wolnir

Am I a bitch for summoning every NPC to help me beat a boss?

>>182945690
Depends on the boss. I personally would never blame anyone for summoning to beat Pontiff or Friede. Same for Abyss Watchers to an extent, the boss just becomes tedious past the first time.

And hell, sometimes summoning phantoms makes the boss harder, not easier.

>beat ds3 and ashes a long time ago
>few months ago a new dlc comes out
>cant beat it on my """main""" because its +3 and i get instakilled by a single hit from any mob
>rest chars have either shit builds or on a + world and at the beginning

Any fun and good pve builds out there? I want to make a new char and actually enjoy this playthrough

>>182945690
not NPCs. as long as it's not your friends.

>>182945957
TRC has something for every build, but your best bet is to just go for straight quality.

>>182945957
>and i get instakilled by a single hit from any mob
I hope you're not one of those lunatics who confine themselves to some arbitrary meta levels, and don't level up all their stats to 50, to be able to wear the heaviest armor with the highest damage absorption and don't use protection rings.

>>182945690
I cleared the game entirely solo on my first run, so I have no qualms about summoning either NPCs or players on subsequent playthroughs.

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Doing a sorcery build for a change

what do i bring int to?

60?

>>182945957
I played through at NG+7 and only 2 attacks one shot me, both boss attacks.
Do you perhaps wear shitty rags or have low vig?

>>182945882
>I personally would never blame anyone for summoning to beat Pontiff or Friede.
How can you possibly compare the two?
The Pontiff has infinite poise and never fucking stops attacking. Friede has no poise, and summoning turns the fight into bullying the poor girl by R1 spam lock.

>>182946721
If it were a fight where you go straight to phase 3 and she has classic poise, then I'd be delighted to take her on solo. But because of those first two phases every single time, fuck her.

>>182946972
On the first phase she's easily punished during the invincibility attack, and on the second one she becomes real passive and just spams the long range ice attacks while you're wailing at daddy.
It's a great fight, but it's not THAT hard to justify summoning.

>>182946657
If you're going to meta level, yes.

Any weapons that match the ds3 ruin set?

>>182947381
Lucerne.

>>182947381
Lucerne
Sunset Shield

>>182945346
>Micolash
>Living Failures
I wish I could see you right now because you deserve a kick in the nuts for such shit taste.

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>>182908217

>>182947710
That's a stout lad

>>182947710
A bucket helm does not a crusader make.

>>182947820
yeah but like it tho

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>>182931710
I personally like the gritty look that a lot of the sets in 3 have. And there are sets that look genuinely nice as well.

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would it really be so bad if this increased equip load in pvp?

also the piece of crap should block estus altogether like undead hunter charm

>>182947857
That's fine, but I'm still going to criticize your choice of filename because of it.

>>182946363
>quality
Guessed so
>>182946571
I am one of those lunatics, my main is a sl120 arena ninja roleplaying char
Rest are low level invasion twinks
>>182946674
I have the best rings but I wear garbage armor and dont remember much health on the main

>>182946657
Bring int to 60, find soul stream and crystal soul spear, proceed to one shot hosts.

Oh, and get the MLGS if you wanna have a backup weapon for when you're out of mana.

>>182947927
You should just scrap your main then.
What kind of ninja can't dodge so he gets oenshot?

>>182947882
i won't stop you

>>182911612
I always get a good chuckle when I see soneone being stunlocked by those guys and their gear broken. I wish that corrosive jihad attack was a spell you could use.

How to fix Bort:

-Take out phase one, he starts the fight in phase two.
-Drastically increase the speed of his frost breath so you can't just R1 spam his ass for his entire health pool while he casts it.

You now have a vastly improved Bort that people can't just kill on their first try.

>>182906664
If you stream as a fulltime job doing it is not free because you're robbing yourself of the alternative income of a real job.

It's different if you had no chance for a job or if you're just streaming for shits and giggles.

>>182948397
You seem to hold the idea that bosses' only function is to be difficult.

>lmao let's decrease the variety from the fight by only having one phase

>>182945957
If you want to beat TRC on low level, respec to use hidden body, add slumbering dragoncrest to get past the pve and bleed, poison or pestilent mercury for the bosses. It's hard but possible. For the proper experience though, go at sl80 (or 100-120 for ng+)
>>182947880
Hey man, can't have hosts be in actual danger. Stop being an elitist

>>182948397
I don't think the game's first non-tutorial boss needs any fixing.

>>182948560
It's not that their only function is to be difficult, but one of their main functions is to not be easy.

>>182944298
BoC can be inconsistent as fuck and it is also shit for the same reasons that Ancient Wyvern / Dragon God / Yhorm and Wolnir are shit : the entire fight is a gimmick where your build or playstyle does not matter at all, it's not challenging, just incredibly ANNOYING.

And the fact that rng can fuck you over million times in a row you will have to run through the eye-searing shitshow of Lost Izalith over and over.

>>182948397
No to the first point. Just start the second phase earlier, 60-65% or so
>increase his hp pool but make him even weaker to dark so that the deep battleaxe kills him in the sane amount of huts give or take
>give him a flatten attack if you stay under him too long

>>182948714
I'd say leave the first phase as is. But add a frost aura on the second phase, so the player couldn't just stay under his butt safely.

>>182948714
If you put your summon sign down for Vordt you 'd know he's plenty challenging for a lot of hosts.

But yeah, I don't really see how Vordt needs any particular fixing because between Phalanx, Taurus, Last Giant, Cleric Beast and Vordt, Bort is probably the most challenging first non-tutorial boss. And yeah, DS2 and Bloodborne don't have tutorial bosses but Last Giant and Cleric Beast ars kinda considered the first bosses.

>>182948797
>make him even weaker to dark so that the deep battleaxe kills him in the sane amount of huts give or take
Why?

>>182948810
Under his butt is already kinda dangerous in second phase because his entire body is a hitbox in the second phase.

>>182948986
Nah. Just the triple charge and belly flop reach under him. It's still very safe staying close to him.

>>182948986
I think he's specifically referring to when he's using his frost breath attack.

You know, the one that lasts like 10 seconds where you can just wail on him the entire time with no danger at all.

>>182948976
To reward people who take down the mimic. Iirc that thing can 1shot you with the kick. If not, it can take more than half your hp. Maybe make that harder to kill too so you have to either be good at the game or smart enough to use the drake to kill it?

Morning gents

Sorry to ask, but I don't suppose any of you know of the top of you head some of the more interesting low level raw weapons? If I need to hit up the DLCs to get them I will, but there's only so long I can use a Raw Broadsword on a build that's based around using different weapons before I get bored, so any suggestions would be greatly welcome.

I intend on investing in a Raw Dragonslayer's Axe as soon as possible, after I've finished off Oceiros and The Champ and can re-invest my levels. I would love a longer ranged option though

How is wolnir's sword on a quality build? Does it have enough ar for NG+7?

fuck havel

>>182949110
Mimics hardly pose any danger at all. You just circle around them and they just do their swipes or grabs with little tracking. The kick is not something you have to worry about unless you're for some reason trying to distance yourself away from the mimic.

>>182949327
Yeah, but do newbies know that?

>>182949381
Newbies wouldn't know how the dark axe from the mimic chest and the next boss are tied by your obscure logic either. Especially it's not a weapon for their build. The changes you proposed don't make much sense, honestly.

>>182949327
Almost no enemies pose real threat. The game should be balanced around first/second playthroughs. Not to say that they should be casual friendly, just that a new player should be rewarded for exploring and adapting

>>182948015
Well it's a pvp character and I'd say he's pretty good at dodging players. Too bad O&U's hyperarmor and stun were nerfed, I should revamp my main but I play most of my time on this sl50 29% equip load LKS dagger invading char so nothing matters except the new dlc I have to finish

>"Good-bye. I will leave for some time. So long for now."

Why did they have to give him such a nice voice lads? Why couldn't he have been cockney so it wouldn't be so sombre to hear?

>>182949914
To make his inevitable death the first time through hurt that much more.

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you rike it?

>>182950739
This post made me blind.

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>>182906476
>Dark Souls 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWVloxk6p-I

is this even remotely plausible in any other souls game?

das3 is right out by virtue of linearity I imagine, how about das2/des/bb?

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Hello anons. Pic related is what I feel like building for next. For invasions and those 2 weapons would be my main weapons.
Main focus is some regen, princess+replenishment+blessed off-hand.

Looking for any tips how to make this better. Should I drop int/faith to minimum and just go with resin on these weapons or is the stat investment at this point good enough to net me some extra dmg?
I am willing to put 5 more points to anything.

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I'm really liking this set.

>>182951785
Trousers of the dark witch Karla.

These stained trousers are torn and odorous, telling of a long journey and even longer imprisonment.

It would be madness to wear such a thing.

>>182951910
That's why you use the desert sorceress skirt with it.

>>182951910
do you think she ever peed herself with the trousers on? just curious haha

>>182951174
Not really possible in BB. You can become overpowered if you do the DLC or get to Depth 3 dungeons early for gems but not enough to oneshot story bosses.

>>182951976
she got it raw from the jailers every day

>>182951626

Int to minimum, FAI to as high as you can get it, ideally 60, infuse Murky Hand Scythe with Heavy so you actually get some sort of scaling from the thing, use Dark Blade

>>182951976
>just curious
>haha
leonhardthinking.jpg

>>182951174
DaS2:
>technically you can 2 shot pursuer with ballistae and parries if that counts which opens up the bastille for looting
>Gutter/black gulch up to the rotten is accessible with cat ring
>this means you can use the fragrant branch to get into the shaded woods which opens up more stuff and technically means you can grind to get into drangleic castle
>along the way there would be non-respawning enemies to get points from (e.g. heide knights = black knights)

bosses to think about:
>Dragonrider 3k HP
>Last Giant 2.5k
>Old Dragonslayer 2.8k
>Flexile 3k
>Sentinels 2.3K but there's 3 of them
>gargoyles 1.4k but there's 5 of them
>skeleton lords don't even crack 1k hp per individual but there's a fuck ton of them
>vanguard 1.4k

wow, dark souls 2 bosses are complete damage spongs, for reference neither garg in the first game breaks 1k hp and their collective total is less than 1.5k, jesus christ

Skeleton lords would be a good starting point though, what weapons and buffs can we get access to for good damage from within these areas:
>forest of fallen giants
>drangleic castle
>lost bastille
>shaded woods
>gutter
>heide's tower of flame
>wherever else we can get to that you can think of

it's not looking good boys

>>182951174
DeS has stupidly OP spells like Firestorm but within the level sets you can't skip any bosses and you have to jump through some hoops to get all the gear you need for the complete hypermode build so that will limit what bosses you can and can't oneshot.

DaS 2 limited the usefulness of hypermode and pyros so that's kinda right out too.

Is it possible to make a viable Golden Ritual Spear build?

>>182952298
With the sole exception being Darklurker, couldn't you kill every other boss with Climax?

>>182952413
Let's say Vanguard and Phalanx don't count for the same reason Asylum demon doesn't count, so you'd have to build a hypermode setup within:

1-1
1-2
2-1
3-1
4-1
5-1

We can get the clever rat ring from 3-1, but the morion blade is locked behind storm king (which is gonna be impossible anyway rip).

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>>182908217
OwO whats this?

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>>182952169
>>182951626
How about this then. Knight seems to be the best starting class for some reason for this.

>>182952567
This is a good call but darklurker is the problem

maybe what this proves is that the technical challenge here needs to be modified to something else

kill a boss in 10 seconds or something might be better suited to the game than literally one shotting it like in das1

>>182952298
in SOTFS you don't even need to get the gutter branch to get to shaded woods. Also you can get a quick 6 chunks and 1 slab with 2 ascetics in cardinal tower, so you can get a free +9 weapon, all you have to do is kill pursuer and last giant (mcduff has large shards).

Unfortunately dark bead / dark hail isn't quite as OP so you can't one shot bosses with it, but you can sure as hell 2/3 shot bosses with something like a resonant +10 weapon grand lance and channeller's trident, which can all be obtained in early game.

>>182952674
>but the morion blade is locked behind storm king
All boss weapons are also behind Flamelurker.
I think you still can get Ring of Magical Sharpness and Geri's stiletto without killing any bosses past the tutorial one so that's something. And you can get access to Sage Freke without killing any bosses as well.

>>182952862
Sage Freke only gives you the good shit for demon souls though, the best you can get from him is Fire Toss (I think), so thats:

1.2*1.5*1.2 = 2.16xFire Toss damage

how much actual damage is that?

Just how bad is a hexer build in DS3? Give it to me straight.

>>182953137
Oh fug, I forgot that Firestorm was locked behind Yuria who is locked in 1-3 AND you need Dragon God's soul for that.

Well that's complete dogshit

>>182953510
Either it's a 60 int sorceror who uses inferior dark sorceries, or it's a 40/40 pyro that uses some dark spells as well.

The reason dark sucks in DS3 is that it no longer has it's own catalyst scaling. It still has slight stat scaling (DS3 spell damage is affected by scaling of both catalyst and the spell itself) but the end result is that a dark build is just a pure sorcerer using spells that misses out on the faith scaling part of dark, or it's a pyro build that misses out on the catalyst scaling of the best int or fth only catalysts.

The "correct" way to go dark is to make a pyro build that uses the izalith catalyst for fighting fire-resistant enemies. Dark is now just a backup magic type for other builds, it's not it's own thing anymore..

>>182953510
Hexes are no longer a thing, only pyromancies, miracles and sorceries with Dark effects.

>>182953876
What about those talismans with int scaling and staves with faith scaling? Does dark magic get the benefits of both?

>beat ancient wyvern the traditional way cause I kept plunging attacking its neck
>beat yhorm the same way cause I never figured out you were supposed to charge up the wind

Who /retarded/ here?

>>182954063
>he didn't do the onion questline

what is the spikiest greatsword one can use in DS3?
i want to pound my enemies with a huge slab of edge

>Go to fight Champion Gundyr
>Get him to maybe a tenth of his health
>Knocks you off ledge, land on a little piece jutting out with no way of getting back up
>Try to hit him, fail
>Just as I'm homeward boning, he stomps, knocks me off
>Go back to fight him, souls are on that piece of ledge jutting out

Anyone fancy helping my SL 29 kill Gundyr on PS4 so I can at least try to get my souls back? I've not got many bosses left and I don't fancy having to co-op low level bosses endlessly just to make back the souls if I don't have to