/arena/ - Arena FPS General

Ah, damn. I realized how easy it'd be now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLmuRRm1Bag&list=PLxP7tvMqaXzDjw7OYYIEbplCdZOaHLFPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8CP1oSy_-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRe3g65S4Zs&list=PLgbx1wWCtM2DYy26yCLbtY6A0XRiSEM3u&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2tdDZWSGy4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkED2PSrl1c
For next time.

>>182851729
I can repost it here. I do like more interesting discussions in /arena/ if possible.
>>182845072
Thorn had a really nice video on why quake isn't succeeding. https://youtu.be/f2to9Pb0DOM
I think it doesn't quite hammer on the features quakes would need to be successful again though. And it brings up CS as an example of a less punishing game. It completely ignores that player perception and reality is completely different and that's where I think the real issue lies. Because in modern Quake-likes we don't have matches between the best players in the game and someone new. They're not that far apart usually. What's so crushing in these games is how a small advantage is giving you a very large lead perceptively (a truly unbalanced game in CPMA/reflex has frag differences of 20+). What quake games would need to try to do to actually make players feel good in the short term is teach them to take minor victories.

If a ranking system could predict the relative score of the players you could tell a player "hey, you lost, but we expected you to lose [this] bad and you only lost [this] bad, clearly you're better than we think/you're learning, keep going". As it is now you might be facing a fairly evenly matched player and score 2-12. Which would be a pretty even game most likely. But that's not the view you get if you don't know these games.

QC doesn't do this. It relies entirely on MM making players feel ok. It's a fools errand because it's well known that people experience double negatives to every positive. We're risk averse. An even scoreline will be perceived as positive I'm assuming.
You're balancing on a needle with having MM decide this stuff. You need to teach players correct attitudes.

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NA qualifiers: ghetto setup with commentators broadcasting straight outta their basement with shitty video and audio quality.
EU qualifier: professional studio setup with professional casters sitting side by side.

>>182858160
They do need to put effort into the NA scene. Lots of esport grows from EU but NA is needed to sustain it.

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>>182856630
Make like a bro and eat my balls

>>182857204
thorin doesnt even play he just watches tourneys

>>182860505
Yeah. But he's an experienced insight on esports. Which is one of the ways Bethesda aims to market this game clearly.

>>182860659
watching lots of people play doesn't really make you experienced
CS is more punishing than quake at a high level anyways since you have to sit out a round for 10 mins if you make a small mistake

>>182861032
>CS is more punishing than quake at a high level anyways since you have to sit out a round for 10 mins if you make a small mistake
If you make a small mistake in Quake (telefrag)
You have to dodge your enemies for a long ass time.
If you really think CS is more punishing than Quake you're silly. You get next to a full reset every round. If you're facing a better player in Quake you might never get on even footing again in that match.

>>182861259
telefrag is not a small mistake
small mistake would be getting railed from a long way. you can still escape and engage in a good position.
in cs if you get caught in the open for a second you die immediately

>>182861703
>telefrag is not a small mistake
You can stand 1 unit further away to the exit and not get fragged.
Perhaps you'd rather have a failed RJ as a small mistake?
It doesn't matter. There's mistakes that get you fragged. If you get fragged you're OOC. It's massive.

>>182861802
god you're stupid stop camping the teleporter exit

>>182861934
Anon have you played these games?
Pro players in duel get telefragged. It happens.
Also when you do camp the exit is the moment you're least likely to get telefragged if you're in proximity of the exit because that's when you're meticulous about where you stand.

>>182860659
I think one of the reasons QC is having trouble is trying to market it as an accessible skill-based e-sports alternative to OW/CS or any other competitive shooter. There are dudes have done nothing but play Quake since the game came out no matter how hard you try these guys will always dominate the game. So its hard to say "Come play Quake where you skill and hard-work is rewarded" when there are dudes who have already put in that hard work and will constantly ass-rape you till you git gud or quit.
>>182857204
MM is a terrible way for people to get into Quake one match against a Quake-Dad will make most want to quit (I say this as a perpetual shitter who has never gotten gud but still love Quake and afps). To avoid this having a server browser would help, I remember in old QL before steam, servers would be ranked by the average elo of the players who frequented it and compared that to your elo giving you an idea of what to expect from the matches you would play on each server.

>>182862939
>MM is a terrible way for people to get into Quake one match against a Quake-Dad will make most want to quit (I say this as a perpetual shitter who has never gotten gud but still love Quake and afps).
But you don't get matched against quakedads. Have you played QC? Or even Reflex? It works even at small playercounts like Reflex.

>>182863060
Reflex matchmaking doesnt work at all unless you think spending an hour in MM queue is good matchmaking

>>182864728
Not my experience. I get games within 5 minutes and it keeps matching me against the same player as long as we have even matches or there's multiple similar players.

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EU Qualifiers: Official game BGM during breaks
NA Qualifiers: Shitty techno vocal trance untz wub wub garbage

>>182866275
>not muting the stream and listening to you own music

>>182866275
>hating on techno and trance

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Don't forget UT4 today at 3PM PDT (so yurocucks can join)

>Unreal Game Manager
>Bethesda Game Launcher
How many of this shit do I need to install to play a pre-pre-alpha fps with 3 characters and 3 maps.

>>182870952
All I know for ut4 is that it may come to steam eventually.

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>>182856630
You are still the biggest fucking fag, OP
We have a Pastebin to fix this shit.
https://pastebin.com/NzQifF9b
>>182857204
Quake, or afps in general, will probably never really got popular again because:
>times change, people enjoy different genres
>the amount of skill required to get good at Quake and get that satisfaction doesn't take too long, but its too long for people that love the instant gratification of shit like in modern FPS games
>your entire post and video
It's different now. Unless some big series or company pushes out some brand new afps that's good, this won't get popular. And even then, its a slim chance that people would be interested.
RTS and AFPS are pretty much dead, anon. AFPS more so.

>>182872271
Depends on the output device. For terminals, printf will flush automatically on newline.

Now fuck off back to /g/.

>>182872794
Hah, didn't notice.

>>182871361
QC is apparently coming to steam as well

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>>182871361
>>182875547
We can make it. Right guys?

>>182875547
Yeah, I heard that. But desu they will probably still come with their launchers somehow, probably like how planetside 2 had its separate sony launcher inside steam. At least I think this would be the case for ut4 because I don't see them selling their market stuff over steam workshop.

>>182877905
Depends on whether or not Diabotical ends up being good.

Some really slick slash play on justnvc's stream of the 125fps cup right now.

some oc fag should edit the star wars ep 3 anakin/obi wan duel with a pic of ranger holding a rocket launcher saying IT'S OVER ANARKI, I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND

>>182862939
>To avoid this having a server browser would help,
Sever browsers make this experience worse anon, not better.

Matchmaking with a large player base is what makes it so that a players get matched with similarly skilled players.

Thats why literally every competitive mondern PVP game uses matchmaking.
Specifically because it allows players of similar skill to get placed against one another, so they don't get stomped by veterans and no lifers who can shit on them endlessly.

>>182883437
Shop should be dm6 rail, with anarki standing on rail and ranger bleeding on the ground with RL ready to jump.

>>182878163
I think they said you wont need the bethesda launcher if you play it on steam.

HUUH!

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QC noob here; why do I see absolutely nobody playing pic related? I'm liking her totems but I probably see 2 other Galena players a day.

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>>182883437
>>182883739

>>182890578
good work dude!

>>182889787
Because Galena requires predicting opponents and reading the map. Most players don't know how to do this.

Galena is actually my 3rd most played champion. Because tripmines are hilarious. And Galena is a good combo with Tank champions because she works very well as a DPS Support character.

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>>182890910
Fixed the "r"

>>182889787
people use her on ztndm3 to spam totems

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Hunter fucking when?

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ITS TIME FOR UT4
Add "MrMaggot" to friends and I'll invite you to the party to join the private game.

>>182897269
Too lewd. Nobody wants a Waifu Champions game.

>>182898217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GUf6Ce8uxA
This game was rather successful.

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>>182898217
>Ignoring nyx sorlag and slash

>>182898882
I miss 3rd person shooters. S4 League was fun back in the day. Gears of War was brutal, but there was never a seriously good 3rd person shooter.

I prefer third over first, but im rare in that preference.

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>>182897487
>when people vote for UT4 then don't show up

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>>182898882
I mean shit, look at this.
The game was absolute shit in any aspect other than cosmetic it held more of an audience than any AFPS other than QL during its lifetime.
>>182899476
There's that new GOW. Go play that?

>>182899663
>vote for UT4
I voted Xonotic. It had a pretty clear lead last I checked. I suspect foul play, who'd want to play UT4?

>>182899678
Steam stats for microvolts isnt reliable either. Most Microvolts players use the actual client, not the steam install. It was marketed like any korean MMORPG back in the day. A stand alone client with a patcher and account log in.

Microvolts was actually a big contender against TF2 and S4League when the game was at it's height, and people weren't sick to shit of pay to win.

>>182899663
It's public now just join Absolute Atlanta faggots

Bumpin

Huhin

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>>182891772
Final version I swear

>>182911735
There needs to be a 2nd panel with anarki holding a guantlet saying

"YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY MOVEMENT SPEED"

>>182912246
>you underestimate my adad

reminder for everyone who voted for UT4 and didn't show up to kill themselves
there won't be another even for a month if /arena/ is even still alive

>>182912246
>>182917383
>Pop into team death match after waiting for 5 minutes
>playing clutch to try out the new speed demon
>still get sniped/lg'd by children because of my hitbox
>especially by one guy
>switch to anarki
>that one guy is still perfectly hitting every shot without missing once
>tracking me through walls
>using BJ to get the most out of his aimbot

I hate video games. At least clutch is viable in duel.

>>182922424
Clutch is so feelsgoodman.png in duels, his hitbox is the only thing that keeps him down

>>182923553
I just wish he didn't get insta deleted in any game mode besides 1v1. Literally everyone can hear and see your fat ass and rails you from cross map without ever missing.

>>182923553
>On the champion select screen, the characters all have well animated intros with nice sound effects
>Clutch, Scalebearer, Visor, Anarki and Galena's new intros haven't had sound effects added in
I am slightly perturbed

Bumps

>cpma is less strategic
>it adds way more options for strategy and tactics instead of +back rail

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Who is your UT waifu?
Pic unrelated

>>182926413
2k4 flak cannon

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>QC has consumed my life
>Can't get myself to play any other games except unwantingly logging in for raid nights in my MMO guild.
>Watch ESL duels all during raid
>Watch previous quake game's tournaments while trying to chill and fall asleep.
>Stop hanging out with online friends because they dont play quake.

So... How fucked am I going to be if QC fails to become popular?

Am I going to have a massive hole in my heart like what happened when my favorite MMO of all time shutdown and I spend another 5 years searching for something to fill that hole?

I'd rather just stop playing games than go back to casualwatch.

>>182927115
just play cpma

>>182927115
Yer boned m8

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Will the space Egyptians return in UT4?

>>182899663
what's the point of playing this unfished game when you could play UT99 which looks and feels better in every way? isn't the whole point of playing these remakes just for the graphics?

>>182931434
because UT99 has shit balance and shit movement

>>182931540
>ut99
>shit movements
>shit balance
wat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IovXx7FsQw

>>182932042
yes ut99 has shit movement
the only skill based movement it has is impact hammer jumping and rocket jumping
ut2k4 blows it out of the water in every aspect

>>182932242
so why dont you play ut2k4?

>>182932382
because ut4 doesnt have shock taping

So why don't you guys play /arena/ games?

>>182936589
I do. Just wish there were better servers or something. I have shit ping for everything on UT2k4, but pretty decent in anything else.
Shame, since I actually enjoy UT2k4 more than most other arena shooters.

>>182926413
Nebri and some of the Necris girls.

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What arena shooters still have active matchmaking/servers/lobbies running not full of quake dads?

How do I make QC look properly? Talking about picmip

>>182944432
QC does not have picmip options and they'll eventually be banning forced LOD bias and stuff like that.

The best options is to set the game on lowest settings with at least 0.7 brightness.

It removes lots of the clutter and ambience.

>>182944710
>they'll eventually be banning forced LOD bias and stuff like that
and how exactly will they ban a thing they can in no way detect? save for taking client screenshots and looking at them

>>182941653
UT4. Maybe QC.

>>182944432
Somehow with nvidia inspector you can get picmip. Don't know the details. Ignore the fags who whine about it being cheating.

>>182949398
>its smug aura HUHs me

>>182951101
Some one make this edit

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>>182951421
I'm always eager to improve my work

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>>182952916
Gj my boiii

>>182952916
capital letters my man

>>182953395
Almost done. Should I make it "HUHS" or "HUHs"?

>>182954205
HUHs

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>>182954661

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>>182954745
Hold on, I can improve it more

>>182931069
What if they do but get the KANGZ-treatment?

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>>182956638
There was already one kang in 2004.

>>182927115
I sorta know this feel, After playing a reasonable amount of QC i cant get back into OW at all, and I dont play many other games due to time constraints.

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>>182956849
I kinda want a newcomer in QC to have an Egyptian aesthetic. Like could you imagine some mummified Egyptian sorcerer shooting rockets all over the place and laughing like a madman over how efficiently these new-fangled fire-sticks make killing?

Bumpin

>>182956638
I like to think we are far enough away from /v/ to not end up with the KANGZ spam if they ever do release an Egyptian champ. That being said Egyptians were UTs schtick, id always went with brutal/scifi/metal inspired themes.

>>182927115
Unfortunately id forgot how to into Arena shooter. Duel isn't the same and that keeps ALOT of the oldfags away, and then since there is no CA you're not getting any of the QLbabs to come to QC. Finally, waifus sell games to quote a wise man "The way I knew Overwatch would do well is that there was already porn of it before the game was released." That is just a few issues QC has ignoring the myriad other issues.

>>182960012
We just need Hunter and Nyx+Hunter will take care of the waifu thing.

>>182960171
Crash. We need Crash. And Mynx.

>>182960386
given only one slot i'd rather have hunter

will a 1600 be enough to get 1080p 144hz fps on all low settings in QC? I currently have a 380/1100T and the game barely runs around 60 fps at a really low res.

>>182936589
Because it's a dead genre.

>>182960386
And Major

>>182960012
Well, in one of the Q1 expansions, Ranger fought against egyptian jerks, so having a egyptian champion would not be that weird. And his bio would declare he has a bone to pick with Ranger because he killed his new gods.

>>182861703
>in cs if you get caught in the open for a second you die immediately
That also means that you can always beat your opponent by simply shooting better. In Quake, regardless of how much better your aim is, you will never win if your opponent outplays you strategically and always has a larger stack. Counter-Strike actually has more in common with Instagib than with regular Quake.

Rocket Arena Champions never?
Having to pick up items is too deep for me and creates too much imbalance anyway.

>>182962942
>AYO we wuz chillin n' shit
>and along comes this loony-toon-looking-ass yellow dude
>started making trouble in my neighborhood
>got in one little dm and my KANGZ got scared and said
>you movin in wiff yo senpai's in the arena

>>182964760
Alternatively:
>be me
>badass Kang of sand realm
>bronze honeys on my dick all day
>life is good
>slipgate opens up in my realm
>no biggie punks always trying to invade my realm
>punk turns out to be crazy marine
>marine can only communicate by HUHs
>starts blowing everything up
>wake up
>realm destroyed honeys gone elder beings dead
>decide to go through slipgate to kill HUHguy
>end up in Arena with Lizard-gril, Choo-Choo, Blowjob, eatmyballsbro, blue-hairedgril, tableflipgril, undeadgril, sexbot, cyka, and HUHguy
>WE_WUZ_KANGZ.png

>>182964673
I'd be surprised if it doesn't come in as one of the rotating weekend modes they're thinking of doing. Hopefully alongsideno ability anarki only aerowalk

>>182966560
>no ability anarki only
Sounds like CPMA desu

>>182960636
Yes

>Searching For Match: 11:00 and going
>No training mode
>No bots
Dead game my dudes

>>182964760
>>182965503
Okay /arena/, what would be his stats, active ability and passive ability?

>>182967364
Do you want a meme answer or an honest opinion?

>>182968426
honest.

ded

>>182969565
>Stats: hp/ap 75/25-125/50 could light or medium
>Active: Eye of Ra: The Kang creates a sunburst at a target location doing massive damage in an AoE
>Passive: Blessing of Ra: With the Sun on his side the Kang reflects a % of dmg dealt to him to his attacker.

>Alternative passive: Walk like an Egyptian: Maintaining a specific UPS gives The Kang a dmg boost

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>install Quake Champs
>it allows me to choose the locations
>pick two lowest pings
>wait almost ten mins to find a match
>hangs two minutes on creating a game
Woow. So this is the power of matchmaking.

>>182969565
For the Memes

>stats: 200/200 Light
>Passive: WE WUZ KANGZ: The Kang spawns with his Kangly stack and it doesn't decay
>Active: AYO: The Kang calls out any bitch-nigga talking shit about him and informs them he used to be of royal descent but HUHguy cucked him out of his realm

>>182973127
>AYO
Is an insta-kill btw

Alternatively passive could be named:
>Thanks Obama: Obama helps a nigga out by givin him a fat stack to blow fo free

>>182941653
Cube 2

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>today I will remind them

>>182977841
Is this what's posted on /b/ now?

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>>182978391

We are always nearly ded, god damn it I know you chuckle-fucks can shit-post harder than this

>>182982154
I'm honestly feeling burning out on qc already
it takes forever to load, forever to find a match at any hour and forever to get a game that's not a roflstomp or a 1v4 for either side

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>>182979150

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bampo

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>>182984306

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>>182982928
>id actually created a new Quake as a funeral pyre Dumpster fire
>they're going to sacrifice carmack and romero to the fire
>legends tell of a great developer who could save AFPS
>In their tongue he is known as Todd

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>>182984306
>there's like 3-5 Sorlags in every match
>start thinking about what makes her so great
>realize that she's the best waifu in the game
>experienced hunter, isn't dependant on society
>strong sense of entrepreneurship, which means practical smarts
>has the will and strength to protect her family
>respects tradition but isn't afraid of technological progression
>accepting and passionate about motherhood, one of the aesthetic items even gives her an egg to carry around
>those meaty and strong thights...
She is perfect.

>>182985318
>her
LOL

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>>182985318
How about no

>>182985453
>being illiterate

>>182985453
Sorlag is female, you fucking retard.

>>182985643
>>182986329
gas yourshelves scalies

>>182986614
I'm not a scalefag, but literally the first god damned word in her lore is "her."

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>In the shooting gallery she met Anarki.
Did they fuck?

>>182987397
Probably yes, and did shitloads of drugs.

>>182987397
No, they are just BFF. Slash is pure and has never seen a peener

>>182987397
Probably not.

Surprisingly men and women can be friends without wanting to bang each other.

If anarki is shouting "Totally BFFs" They're pretty far from being fuck buddies.

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>>182985318
>>182985491
>being this delusional
That's not Nyx lads

>>182990905
But Slash is flatter so she wins

>tfw all your sick frags are in warmup and you dont have shadowplay to record it

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>>182991958
>muh flat
Not even a thic-fag but I do appreciate some flesh on my girls.

>>182992206
Sorlag isn't thick, She's jacked.

There needs to be a solo mode. I don't want to waste 10 minutes to find a game just to learn the map.

>>182992719
Use custom games. You can pick whatever map you want in a custom deathmatch.

I do this all the time to practice slash's crouchsliding.

>>182993135
this
I just really wish they'd add some competent bots or something

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>>182990905
Still can't believe you guys didn't jump on the fact the Fathom Agents make new recruits wear chokers

if QC doesnt eventually allow for brush based custom maps its DOA

>Go 16-4 absolutely thrashing people
>All of the sudden game decides to assfuck me with spawns.
>5 deaths without a kill.

Im getting so fucking tired of being assfucked by spawns in FPS games.
Why can't 1 fucking game figure out how shuffle spawns so people can't get free kills on top players?
Im so fucking tired of this stupid spawn bullshit.

>>182998948
git gud
or stop being a newfag and play hoonymode or ut4

>>183001657
This isnt about "git gud" this is about a game that needs to fix spawns so nabs don't get free fucking kills for no reason. There's no skill behind that shit.

Spawn kills are ridiculous.

And I'm almost always top frags, this isn't about "git gud" I'm already great at DM TDM and Sac, that's not the point.

>>183001815
git gud

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>>183001815

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It doesn't let me start a custom deathmatch game by myself

Is there a tool to convert QW or Q2 maps to UT4

>>182995826
I'd help her disperse her energy build up if you know what I mean desu.

>>183006048
>You are now imagining recruit Nyx phasing out of her suit by accident in front of the entire class

Holy Trinity of Duel Maps:
ztndm3
q2dm1
cpm22

>try using superhudeditor
>direct it to the wrong folder
>can't find the huds
>alright, I'll just fix it
>crashes
>open it again to fix it
>crashes
>can't run it in a safe mode
>can't find the config or file with the path is saved to
>get a fresh copy of cpma
>still broke
Fucking how do I fix it
Its not in anything like AppData or Program Files

>>183007071
/set ch_file "zigghud2a"

>tfw you get pinned against those obviously autistic no-lifers who manage to get every single fucking shot with power weapons directly at you at maximum pace
Haven't played arenas in ages, but fuck me are some of these matches infuriatingly misbalanced.

>>182992676
A little bit both, I think.

>>183007306
What, use this while in CPMA?
The problem is superhudeditor is searching the wrong folder and I can't fix it because it instantly crashes.

>>183008308
you could probably fix it in the registry editor

>>183008561
Look, I'm not good with computers. Used regedit once, and that was for a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. mod years ago. Forgot how I did it, just remember how to pull it up but that's it.
Sorry for spoonfeeding, but I just wanna fix this fucking hud.

>>183004337
If you have the original .map file, the Trenchbroom editor for Quake 1/2 has an Export to .OBJ function. That should give you the basic geometry at least, textures, entities and details are up to you.

>>183001916
>>183002003
> diceroll
> skills
come now, you two are just being silly now

srs tho, the spawns suck shit big time

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nyx = thot
slash = thot
galena = cool edgy undead girl
sorlag = bae

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https://clips.twi
tch.tv/BrightIronicSandwichHassanChop

>>183012618
hunter = better than all

>>183013730
hunter + sorlag lesbian porn when

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>>183012618
>Nyx=Thot

>>183015135
did you mean to type: vore fetish art

>>183015582
Of course, Hunter enjoys eating the cooked meat of a worthy foe

>>183015582
>>183017554
How about you fucking dont.

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>>183015582
>>183017554

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>>182979150

>>183019640
>Throws off the alignment of the columns by putting the entirety of the Quake 2 and Quake 3 Arena logos in despite cropping the Logo of Quake 1
Fucking why

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>playing duel
>enemy player is a literal retard
>just chases in every possible situation
>doesn't set up ambushes or predict my movements
>just holds w at me while shooting
>i literally have mega and heavy armor and he still just +forwards at me
>still somehow manage to lose every single engagement despite having the biggest advantage the game can possibly give you
is there anything that could possibly feel worse than this

getting spawntrapped for 50 frags

>>183024452
I don't think this is an accurate representation of what happened anon.

Unless your accuracy is so shit that you can't deal damage.

>>183024854
im completely serious
this player just forced 1v1s constantly and i lost every time because my shots never did more than 30 damage

>>183024964
Confirmed anon can't shoot for shit

>>182985318
>>182985491
>>182990905
Read it in their voices.

>>183015582
>>183017554
That was a good one.

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There's like 25 people in Railwarz CTF right now if anyone wants to join.

>>183025848

30 dmg face rockets are pretty common, it's pretty easy to play retarded and win

look at any polish player in the qualifiers

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>>183029074

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px-LfdjyST4

>>183028498
Record your games and watch them back. You'll learn a lot.
If you don't have the disk space just stream them at 480p or something. Have twitch record it as past broadcasts.

Of course it's easier to learn from your games in real games that have replay systems.

>>183031609

i recorded plenty of faulty rockets and rails

also i'm probably way higher skill than you so cut it out with that

QC is broken, anyone with a brain who has played it sees

>>183032567
>I'm probably way higher skill than you because you suggest I watch my games back
Wow. Touchy. It's almost like you think I'm that other guy who has a completely different posting style.
>faulty rockets
It doesn't explain a full stack vs no stack situation almost ever.
>QC is broken
Yeah. I don't play it anymore because it's so broken. But it's not so broken that what you describe isn't partially your fault.

>>183032770

i wasnt the guy complaining about losing

stacks barely matter in this version when projectile luck is so heavy

>>183032937
Stack barely matters because overstack is such a minor advantage compared to minor item stack.
It's not because hitting rockets is weird.

Any champion other than clutch is brought down to minor item stack 99% of the time even if they control both major items.

I can't think of another afps where hitting a rail brings you from OOC to contested control just like that.

That's the problem.

>>183033298
Not anyone currently in this shitstorm, but I have decided to throw two-cents in: Fundamentally the stack/movement/hitbox issue is the problem of QC.
>Big guy 4u? Get railed and rocketed to death.
>Little guy? Thats a nice stack you have there, shame if someone railed it.
The only class that isn't at a horrible disadvantage in some way is medium and that is because they are closer to the fundamentals of quake than anything in QC is.

>>183009743
How big is the UT4 Editor? I don't invest enough time in it to dl something huge.

>>183040474
No idea, but I hope you weren't thinking you'd be able to convert a map from a 21-year old game to a brand-new one on a completely different engine family and expect to not have to use the UE4 editor.

Daily reminder that Sorlag is bae. Nyx is okay.

>>183025848
>tfw this is genuinely my problem, especially in close-quarters

>>183041195
He needs to use the Unreal editor at the most certainly. As said before he probably could pull object files from old quake level geometry but all the textures and actors will probably have to be replaced manually. Expect shitloads of manual work + probably should test run the map in early stages just to see if it plays right in different game.

Bump again

You guys are my favorite general

>>183050219
Making OC for this general is the best

>>18304047425
25 gig, maybe more by now.

>>183052360
Meant for
>>183040474

>pick TDM
>My team is never around
>the enemy team is always running in a pack
>getting killed on spawn

Fucking christ. It's my first match of the day.

>>183054370
You can lone wolf and control items

But the bad spawns in QC are really pissing me off lately.
I'm getting a little fucking tired of being spawned infront of people's rockets, railguns and quad carriers.

>>183054473
It wouldn't be so aggravating if I wasn't waiting 10 minutes to find a match. Spending all the time just simmering in frustration instead of getting back on the horse really adds to it.

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I never quite realized that until now but Quake community is pretty fucking stupid.
Like legit stupid, reading those complaints about the game here and on plebbit is quite amusing, like reading completely clueless and simple minded morons.
It's even worse if you compare Quake community with other communities like Dota community which is notoriously "bad" but in comparison with Quake community dotards are unironically smarter and competent.

>bawww this gaym ded already
>bawww matchmaking killed the game
>bawww $1million tournament with air rocket bug
>bawww netcode sucks
>bawww i le stay in q3

You fucking morons let your own game die and the "arena" genre as well just fuck off to irrelevance in QL.

>>183055739
whiners gonna whine
bitches gonna bitch
quakers gonna quake

>>183055739
But the matchmaking and netcode do suck.

I've been "playing" for the last 3 hours and I have had 3 or so matches after waiting 10 minutes to get into them, only to get roflstomped by a quake dad who 50/15 while 2nd barely breaks 20. New players have no way to improve and so they leave only making both problems worse.

>>183056063
Match making is bad because there's literally no playerbase and it matches everyone with everyone. What the fuck would you even expect if QL is like 200 people playing across the world?
But the game has custom mode now so you can pick up players and play somewhat balanced TDM / Sacrifice or duels.

Match making is probably even worse on NA servers because lul-NA. NA servers are bad even in Dota and are filled with south americans. Despite having QuakeCon the playerbase in states must be dead as hell. It's not quite dead in Europe and Russia though.

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Who wants to take bets Doomguy is going to be announced as a champion during Quakecon, but not in the current build they use for the on going tournament

>>183056349
I agree. My point is that match making is getting steadily WORSE because new players fight quake dads who curb stomp them, they leave, and now there are less players and the few that are still there are either quake dads or people who have slightly more resolve but still have no room to improve because all they can fight are quake dads. Sooner or later they'll quit too.

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>>183056713
Wouldn't he look very similar to Ranger?

Also that naked navel, what a fag.

>>183056821
He's very likely going to be the doom 2016 model.

>>183056946
>not the 2018 model

DOOM Sequel when?

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>>183056821
>>183056946
100% going to be based on Doom2016 variant of doomguy, probably going to be called Doom Slayer or something instead of just Doom or Doomguy.

>>183057035
>>183056946
I really hope he won't have some melee-hook finisher that instakills an enemy if he has something like "less than 25% hp".

do you get xp while playing custom matches?
I'm tired of 15+min queues so might as well duel my shitter friends

>>183057436
Yeah I'm not sure what they'd give him as an active ability that wouldn't be totally retarded and out of place. Maybe something like Haste as his active? But that'd sorta be like BJs dual mode. It'll probably be Berserker or something where he moves a bit faster and does more dmg.

>>183057436
they will not add any sort of "melee" "berserk" shit. they stated multiple times that each champion will not change the game youre playing. it will change your playstyle. so he will still be using the weapons and stuff, just probably double jump and like mini-haste for active ability or ive no idea.

definitely not berserk/melee champion

>>183057554
>>183057572
insert great minds meme here

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>>183056946
All the characters have three distinct aesthetic variants divided into head, torso and legs, with some vanity accessories. It's pretty likely that the doomguy will have the classic doom-marine outfit AND the the 2016 doom-slayer outfit. The real question is wether he will have monologue or not.

>>183057572
How do you expect doing well in melee in Quake especially in duels?
He needs something like gap-closer to fight in melee and then hook comes to mind. Or maybe some weird blink.

Do you guys like splatoon?

>>183055739
>Oh no someone is not sucking off bethesda
>Clearly retards

>>183058750
>bawww why is it not idtech perfect engine
>oh wait it was fucking garbage in Wolfenstein and Dishonored 2

>tdm
>my team
50-8
3-28
1-22
0-17
>enemy team
28-11
24-25
17-7
6-11
Now I remember why i quit overwatch.

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Why did they remove the plasma gun?
Why did they add the useless Nail Gun?
What did they mean by adding weapon "upgrades"?

>>183055739
Todd is that you? Aren't you supposed to be working on TES:VI Hammerfel WE WUZ KANGZ EDITION?

>>183062229
don't play tdm
every time I do, I am the only one on my team who does not go negative
every time.
every god damn, mother fucking time

play dm and duel if you want to win games

>>183064126
>play dm and duel if you want to win games
What if he actually wants to get good instead of stomping noobs and winning games?

will the game perform better on launch? in both performance and netcode

answer syncerror you worthless nigger

>>183064729
Hey guys! Devs are taking the time to work towards a bigger patch that addresses several known issues. Appreciate the patience, and we'll keep you in the loop.

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>>183064729
Anon we're working hard on getting the game up to our high standard, and right now its a little tough. You know this is id's first Arena Shooter and it's taking them a lot of time to get things together. So how about you go and buy the newest 4k edition of Skyrim and play that while we get QC up and running? Obviously you have every other version right?

>>183063618

Nail Gun is supposed to be the plasma gun for this game, but yeah I agree it doesn't feel useful except for those 'once in a hundred hours' circumstances.

A reminder to those saying QC is shit right now, there is an alternative in the form of CPMA if you want a solid arena shooter its breddy good desu

Also if you want something totally different there is UT which is different but breddy good to desu-ne

>>183069327
cpma turned me gay
would not recommend

>>183069327

yeah but dead game

baamp

>>183071892
What makes you think the Anons here aren't all gay? Half of them like worst girl Sorlag.

>>183076543
>worst
Justify your opinion.

>>183063618

the nail gun isn't useless

you can fight against railgun with it in a lot of circumstances, also spamming it into the teleporter exit on ztn is a pretty good usage

it might even be better than railgun in a lot of certain types of fights just because of how many rails will not register

>>183077548
Do nails even fly in a straight line like plasma blobs?
Also, what's the weapon that fires shards in a burst of 3? If it's the nailgun upgrade then it makes it even shittier since you can't switch back to default nailgun.

>>183077664
That's the grenade launcher replacement, the Tribolt
I don't think anyone likes it, I can't really find a use for it except for meme explosion jumps and I think everyone would prefer Grenade Launcher

>>183077664
yes, nails fly straight with no deviance just like the plasmagun or the original nailgun

>>183077664

the tribolt has its own bind im pretty sure

yes the nails go in a straight line. there's just some weird registry issues with everything

its even stronger than plasma im pretty sure, plasma did like 8 damage or something ridiculously useless

catching someone in the teleports on ztn is pretty much a kill, it pushes you around so you cant escape with some of the fatter heroes

>>183055739
I agree completely.
It's weird. There's genuine retards here. I've never been in a gaming community this dumb.
To be clear it's not about your complaints mainly. It's how when you have a conversation you need to spell it all out. Smart people can understand you when you're being terse. I never have these communication issues normally. Arguments are harder to judge in general because people have their biases which weaken their arguments significantly. Like how some people argue for Champions being too fast and how stacks should be normalized. Clearly a bias there. It's a dumb idea but you can't say the person is dumb.

Also note, I don't judge based off /arena/ you're expected to be morons just like /d2g/, /csgo/ or whatever. Nobody tries their best here. It's about the people in the scene in general. There's smart people of course. But they're not common.
>>183077664
I believe they drop. But it's not really noticeable beyond spamming the TP on dm6 from stairs by rail. That's where I experienced having to compensate.
>>183077852
Well I last played seriously in CB4 so I may be off.

>>183078026

>i'm smart because these people are dumb and those gamebreaking bugs are just whining

>>183055739
Maybe if the game was good people would like it

>>183078360
Clearly this person didn't get it. Or he's just baiting. Who knows. That's /vg/ for you.

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>>183077170
Lips desu

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>>183078026
>>183079424
I'm not sure he is the baiter here it's (you)

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>>183079871
>Nyxfags seriously think they can compete

/nyxgirlpower
A girl presumably playing 100% nyx.
Weird.

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>>183080262
>heels

>>183080262
*Slashfags. Oh god I haven't slept and/or I'm choking on a thousand cocks.

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>>183080391
>tfw she'll never grind your dick into the ground with those high heels while staring you down with her single exposed eye and laughing in that wonderfully husky voice

does this game still use ridiculous amounts of upload bandwidth?

>>183080382
She switched to scale when i kept killing her with the starter shotgun

>>183080391
Yeah. It's dumb.

They need to add more waifus asap. If there's no steady supply of porn the game will never take off.

They also should add a champion with tentacles.

>>183080382
Is she any good or does she make my gender look like an embarassment?

>>183082531
Women in games are already an embarassment

>>183083007
Fuck you faggot.

>>183083067
not an argument

>>183083007
> ew cooties

>>183083007
"But muh boys club. You're getting estrogen all over it."
I can smell that dirty fedora from here anon. Go take a shower.

>>183083785
t. beta orbiting white knight

>>183082067
They should add a champion with testicles.

By which I mean a dickgirl. Particularly one named Hunter.

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>haven't touched quake in more than 15 years
>get raped in every game
>can't even find comfortable sensitivity settings
>who am I quoting

>>183069327
90% of the /arena/ discord are just CPMA players anyways

>>183087184
1.6 sens at 800 dpi

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>the assman annihilated us in TDM

w-well he's ex-quake pro

Someone should edit the I saw X at the grocery store copy pasta with Ranger

I tried but doing it on phone is cancer

>>183069327
I never liked CPMA physics, it's just too alien to me, old OSP player.

>>183088837
CPMA is like OSP but not shit

>>183089048
It's nothing like OSP and it's shit.

>>183089846
It literally includes OSP but with all of the improvements of CPMA if you feel like suffering through VQ3 gameplay again.

>>183082531
Not terrible. Not great. It's what you'd expect if a random player made a stream.

You can only get matched with people connected to the same main server as you?
This all kind of sucks.

What's all these acronyms?
pql
Osp
CPMA
Vq3

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>>183082531
One rail and she is in a bad position automatically sorlag eats her alive and she can get choo choo'd pretty easy. But she has 10/10 design so I still play her desu

>>183085786
>make the character who literally hates anything that has testicles the dick-girl

wew lad.

>>183090915
Pro Quake Live which is like chinese CPM, poorly made, but resembles CPM at a glance
OSP is Orange Smoothie Productions which was a promod for vanilla quake 3 (VQ3)
CPMA is Challenge Promode Arena which is a competitive mod with major netcode improvements and things like 6 or 7 rulesets including CPM and OSP
VQ3 is vanilla quake 3

>>183091415
And CPM is Challenge ProMode which is an attempt to combine the skill based movement of QuakeWorld, Quake 2, and Quake 3 all into one game as well as weapon and item rebalancing

>>183087665
Diabotical when you smug fuck

>>183059490
>Wolfenstein and Dishonored 2
Neither of which used id Tech 6 which is what Quake Champions uses, though it's a hybrid with tech from Saber. Wolfenstein: TNO was still running on id Tech 5 and Dishonored was running on the Void engine which is a heavily edited version of 5.

The closest recent comparison you'd get for engine performance would be Doom 2016's multiplayer but even then it's not a 1:1 comparison thanks the changes with Saber.

>>183057035
Didn't the leaks refer to him as Doom Marine? In the game that's one of the titles given to him by the UAC after they excavated his sarcophagus so it'll probably be that.

>>183096829
>Neither of which used id Tech 6 which is what Quake Champions uses, though it's a hybrid with tech from Saber. Wolfenstein: TNO was still running on id Tech 5 and Dishonored was running on the Void engine which is a heavily edited version of 5.

I know that but my point is idtech is no longer a "perfect" engine and neither is Id the same company as it was before.
And honestly even Quake 3 had a lot of performance issues at launch, it required pretty good hardware to sustain solid fps at that time.

>>183091101
>not changing her character so she hates both men and women and is instead a dickgirl extremist

>>183099459
neck yourself

>>183096829
Quakechampions doens't use IDtech6. The devs stated that.

It uses a hybrid of saber and pre IDtech6 engine.

The game doesn't use IDtech6 because it started developement before IDtech6 was finished.

>>183099986
rude

Diabotical is this general's only hope

https://youtu.be/IAqy_BtCqM4
1:45 inspired the shock combo. Seriously.

bamp

>can't get direct hits with rockets in QC worth jack shit
>somehow certain enemy players always seem to lead their rockets perfectly
I am partly glad that this genre is dead.

>>183109072
I find myself hitting a lot of directs and air rockets, but half the time they don't do any damage because the game is trash and my rocket didn't a c t u a l l y hit them. Really frustrating to hit directs shooting up at someone on a ledge above you, and having it not count for shit.

>>182860505
dude belichik doesnt play why does he coach

>>183063618
it's weird that nail feels worse than plasma
>>183062229
why the fuck are you playing tdm in quake lol
>>183024452
anon when we say quake isnt about aim that doesnt mean you should use keyboard look

>fucktards supporting spawn killing in quake
No wonder this genre is dead.

They need to add a female announcer.

>>183111709
Russian female announcer when?

>>183111247
spawn trapping is a legit skill

>>183111247
Spawn killing in DM is annoying for new players for sure, but spawn killing in duel takes more skill than DM

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>>183111247
You can't completely avoid them unless you make the maps retardedly big.

>>183112852
why did they have to make her mouth so DETAILED

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>>183112952
Who knows

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>>183113898
>watch her select animation
>the way her neck and throat undulates like she's gulping down something as she sways her head and talks
>mfw

>>183112852
In duels, they need to use RA3 / CPMA rules where everyone respawns after each frag.

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>>183099459
That cracked me up, I'm on board now

>>183057710
>The real question is wether he will have monologue or not.
I am betting they will put VEGA as Doomguy's "voice".

>>183117863
>HUUH
>HUUH
>HUUH
HUUH

>>182965503
wait what

who is "blowjob"
you gave 10 names but there are only 9 champions

lizard=sorlag
choochoo=scale
eatmyballs=anarki
bluehair=nyx
tableflip=slash
undead=galena
sexbot=clutch
cyka=visor
huhguy=ranger

>>183120687
>there are only 9 champions
anon...

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>>183120687

>>183121201
FUCK I FORGOT BILLY

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>>183121597
Spell it right

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>>183117863
If they don't id is retarded, but they have already proved that they are retarded... so maybe they will?

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>>183080618
>ywn wake up to "good morning sunshine"
>run your hand through her phase-hair
>have morning sex with

>>183114867
You mean Hoonymode?

>>183112852
No. That's not true at all. With enough spawns on any map and a spawn system that's aware of the risks of spawning a player at every spawn they can be avoided well.

>>183131925
Hoonymode QC would be great. Hoonymode in cpma suffered from rounds being too short imo. But there's no risk of that with how passive QC is.

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>>183129839
Why even live?

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>>183135604
Bumping

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>>183135604
>why even live
At least we have the meme masters to hit us with that fresh OC

>top 3 in almost every death match game in QC are almost always all Rangers
Why is this? Is his reduced self damage that good?