/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

I like this one.
Good OP, OP.

very good

Dark Sword

>>182838359
Good thread. Fuck the autists.

Farron Greatsword

>>182838632
Watch as this thread gets deleted though for being made 10 seconds after that other autists thread.

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>>182838657
>farron greatsword slidey sparky jinks

>>182838705
not if we all report the other one kek

>>182838753
the spiciest memesword around

>>182838796
Announcing reports is technically ban worthy anon.

Why are people putting their mimic mask on at the end of a boss?

>>182838828
Souls

>>182838657
One of the best pvp sword around
Haters go home

>>182838828
It gives you extra souls.

Man i love memeruler

>>182838805
have you seen farron vs farron?
autism patterns and double the sparks.

So I played this when it came out and stopped after 34.
So I'm starting over since I lost all sense of direction and progression.

I'd like to be invaded every now and again but I don't want to drain all my embers so I have a few questions.
1.) How do I not fucking suck at PvP? I'm gonna use the Great Machete. Just anything easy I should avoid like locking on or getting close.
2.) How do I get flush with embers? All those people who duel must have a lot.

spergOP BTFO

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I have come to deliver more shitty Microshaft Taint art.

What is the best THICC chest armor?

>>182839054
QUITE the talent

>>182838873
>>182838907
Ah Makes sense
Is it a lot?

>>182839029
Bless this new Golden Age of simple /dsg/ OPs. Death to the thread autist and Lucifer.

>>182839057
Smough's, duh

>>182839086
>Hand it over. That thing, your Dark Soul General

>>182839029
Why wouldn't you want something neat and compiled into one pastebin? Are you some sort of non autist or something.

>>182839001
>and stopped after 34
You'll have to elaborate.

>1.) How do I not fucking suck at PvP? I'm gonna use the Great Machete. Just anything easy I should avoid like locking on or getting close.
Git gud by playing more, get summoned and invade. The Great Machete is an ultra weapon, you need to learn how hyperarmor works and how to manage your stamina.

>2.) How do I get flush with embers? All those people who duel must have a lot.
You invade and kill the host, farm tough enemies (Black K***hts drop them fairly regularly), get summoned and help the host beat the area boss, and so on.

>>182839217
>Not admiring fatorias the cake walker

>>182839254
Whoops. 34 hours.
Also what covenants get me summoned to help kill invaders, and does it even work often? I remember trying a bunch in my old game and I got summoned like 4 times.

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>>182839080

>>182839392
kek so shit I love it

>>182839392
best shit on DSG
now draw my waifu's feet

>>182839057
Evangelist's armor.

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>>182839057
Winged Knight.

>>182839057
Exile

>>182839357
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/covenants
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/online
The one you want is Blue Sentinels. The reward is something that's only useful if you're going a Faith build, but it will give you PvP experience. It's notorious for being hard to get activity for since it requires another player to equip a matching covenant patch and be within your PvP range, and you're competing against a large pool of other players who also want to get summoned..

If you want Embers, you either invade as a red and kill the host, or get summoned as a white/yellow and help the host kill the boss (which also automatically grants you Ember status alongside giving you the item, so it's two for one if you didn't have Ember status before).

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I think I'm getting better.

>>182838359
You damn noob faggots. 750!

>>182840265
Does it really matter if it's a few posts before? The opSperg made one before this even and everyone migrated here since it's clear he's just making it early to force what he thinks the thread should be.

>>182840265
Fuck you JEFF

>>182839001
>I'd like to be invaded every now and again but I don't want to drain all my embers so I have a few questions.
Do co-op to reset yourself to embered.

>1.) How do I not fucking suck at PvP? I'm gonna use the Great Machete. Just anything easy I should avoid like locking on or getting close.
Focus on killing enemies from 0 to death. This means checking how much damage you do per hit and how long you can combo them. An easy strategy is to chip them down to a little over half, so they dont' heal, and then do a full combo to death from half-health.

The other strategy is to run them out of estus so they can't heal. This is a bad idea as an invader, since you have a health penalty AND you have half estus. Without the ability to run away and heal using miracles or passive healing, you're at too far of a disadvantage.

Next, remember you only have to kill the hosts, not the whole party. Wide sweeping attacks that stagger people trying to surround you help a lot in that, since you can push a host into a corner but still cover your back.

Use the environment too. Catching a host alone because they're wandering around too much is a huge advantage, and surprise attacks help. Force is a really good miracle for this reason, you can knock hosts off by catching them by surprise.

Remember that if they run away from you and fall off a ledge, the landing animation means you will hit with a plunging attack if you follow them 80-90% of the time.

>>182839001
>2.) How do I get flush with embers? All those people who duel must have a lot.
Only burn an ember when you need it and learn to play unembered more. The game gives you plenty, both in the shop and normal gameplay.

Also, regarding invasions, think of each combat encounter in DS3 as a 15-second long battle where if no winner is decided in 15 seconds, all players heal back up and try again.

>>182840484
>Do co-op to reset yourself to embered.
See, this is the thing I miss so much about dark souls 2. The small sign soapstone. You could maybe do 5 minutes of co-op and reset your embered state no problem but right now? FUCK YOU, you have to babysit this fucking retarded host that literally can't handle the sign of danger and MUST KILL HIMSELF IN THE STUPIDEST FUCKING POSSIBLE WAY EVERY SINGLE TIME. God, I hate you people so much.

>>182840598
Yeah, same. DS2 really had a better design of the matchmaking, even if soul memory meant that players had less control over it.

fucking christ the irithyll dog things that swing the swords are cheap as hell.

I HATE 2 DOOR FAGS

Do you still need DSFix for pc 1?

>>182840791
just block, it deals very low stability damage

>>182840791
Fire shits on them.

>>182840791
>he doesn't carry firebombs.

>>182840852
>still
of course you still need it. Why wouldn't you?

You didn't think they would actually rebuild the port 5 years after release, did you?

>>182840852
Need? Heavens, no. Do you need to not feel shortsighted without glasses? Do you NEED to run above 30 fps?
>>182840791
*unzips backstab stick*
*runs behind u*
heh, nothing personal

>>182840791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70Z2t7nq_sU

Omae wa mou shindeiru
For some reason the giant doggo doesn't spawn for me

http://wulf2k.ca/pc/das/das-brush.exe

It's Boss rush time

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>>182840852
They didn't care to fix even the literally broken multiplayer name system where after transitioning from GFWL to Steam people can crash your game if you inspect their summon sign and the name has special characters or it's deemed "too long" because the japs have penis envy to even european and american online names I guess.

They also never even attempted to fix the "Mouse cursor on screen all the time"-glitch so while in many cases the developers "leaving the fans to fix the game" is a hyperbole it literally is the case here.

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Where's weapon ranking anon?
>>182841579
>wulf2k

>>182840852

Yes, but you also need PvP Watchdog to fix >>182841601

>>182841660
>Where's weapon ranking anon?

What do you mean?

>>182841752
The one who held the polls for the best looking weapons. Has he posted results?

>>182841254
"Iron Pineapple tells a joke.mov"

>>182841462
Be more specific. The Pontiff doggo in Irithyll, or the Greatwolf in Ariandel?

If the former, keep going through Irithyll and you'll get another chance to fight it. If the latter, there's two places where it'll spawn near Millwood village.

>>182841930
I forgot to add the pic to the post, Ariandel. It doesn't show up in either

>>182838359
>still using the outdated links for all the games
If you're going to be responsible for making new threads, then at least try to clean that shit up.

fuck everyone on discord
im serious, if you are on discord you should kill yourself

>>182841984
What's outdated? No one's posted any new links or pastebin compilations of new things so if you have any recs on them just say instead of being passive-aggressive.

Tears of denial is too op in PvE

>>182842041
Tell us, where did the discord touch you?

>>182841976
If you already fought it and got it to retreat in both areas, then that's it. You just go down to the bottom and enjoy a slightly easier boss fight.

All you get from beating it is Titanite anyways, you're not missing anything. And the boss fight is easy enough without the pre-chip damage.

is there a list of what you need to have in order to get a certain weapon to +10? i want to get the sunlight ss to +10 but im not sure what i need. im at +4 but i need a slab for +5, which seems like a bit much.

>>182842057
A shitload of the links for DeS, DaS1 and DaS2 are outdated and whatnot. They haven't been updated for dead links and new info for literally years.

>>182842293
Yes check the wiki under weapons

>>182841601
to be fair, From doesn't make PC games, and DS1 was never originally intended for a PC release

They make PS3 / 360 games that sometimes ask Bandai for help to make them ported to PC

>>182842309
OP here, I see what you mean checking it now. I don't really care to look for things like the DS2 soundtrack link and the other broken links atm so I'll probably just cut those next thread or post a different pastebin without the later. If anyone does want to provide new links for those I would be happy assemble them for the ideal pastebin.

>>182842064
>getting hit in pve

>>182842410
That still does not excuse the complete lack of support even for the simplest things. And the pc ports of DS2 and 3 were SO much better.

>inb4 DS3 is poorly optimized
It's shittily optimized on consoles too

>>182842341
it's giving me the +1, +2 etc damages at each level but doesnt show me what is required to get to that level i.e. titanite, twinkling titanite etc

>>182842601
Did you check wikidot? Anyway, most weapons upgrade with regular titties, all boss weapons and Eleonora upgrade with Titanite scales, some unique weapons like I think BK weapons upgrade with Twinkling titanite.

>>182842752
ok and im guessing a slab is used for the final upgrade?

do we know how many slabs there are in game available to get? would like to know how many weapons i can fully upgrade

>>182843105
Slabs are always the final upgrade yeah. Dunno how many slabs there are in the base game but I do know that Ashes of Ariandel has 3 and that they are limited overall. I think there are a total of 7 slabs in the base game or so.

>>182843105
(Assuming you own both DLCs) there are a total of 15 slabs per NG cycle

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What is his build?

I've never done an archery run before. Which souls game is the best for that? I don't care which one I'll play next, I just want to play as an archer.

>>182843250
A quality/faith with approximately 10k points in fth.
>Gael's way of white corona never
>Corona doesn't work like homing soulmass where the more fth you have the more coronas you fire

>>182841254
That looks like so much fun.
I forgot about his videos.
How does he get 4 people at the same time though? And they don't look like spirits. Looks like they're straight up nintendo 64 co-op.

>>182843282
Lightning arrow

>>182843217
8 in the base game
3 in AoA
4 in TRC
15 total

>>182843282
Dark Souls 1 is probably your best bet for it. You get a working hypermode with RTSR and Leo Ring and you can infuse bows. There are also very little gimmich bosses that require you to do bs like wolnir or wyvern.

>>182843282
Dark souls 1, I used composite most of the time and Pharis's bow for sniping, even though manual aim in ds1 is fucking garbage

>>182843584
Giving a bow an elemental upgrade and running Leo seem to run counter to each other. Only the physical (thrust) portion of the bow's damage is boosted by Leo.

Besides, you'd be best running a normal upgrade Composite Bow with a quality build for damage.

Do we have an updated tier list for weapons? I constantly want to switch around to play with something else, are the dual ugs worth/fun?

>>182843472
>recommending a super endgame miracle locked behind the hardest bosd as a base for the run
Your intentions are good but unless he wants to do it on NG+ I don't think it's worth it especially since DS3 is kind of a bad game for a pure archery run due to how the PvE works and the ammo limits and lack of bow infusions. Hypernode is crap in DS3 as well.

>>182843791
Yeah but you can carry an elemental infused backup bow for enemies weak against a certain damage. Although physical is generally the best for most things.

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>>182843919

Eh, depends on what situation you want to use them in. With duels, you'll probably struggle since most people know how to counter them. Invasions you can catch the host offguard and hit the full combo

>>182843943
You don't have to kill Midir or Gael at low levels to get lightning arrow. Friede I admit is pretty hard but I wouldn't call her the hardest.

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>>182844154
Friede was harder for me than Gael personally. I still like Gael's fight better.

>>182844250
My perspective may be skewed because I've mostly only done caster builds so far and they have a pretty easy time with that fight as long as you load up on Ashen Estus.

wow. dragonslayer armor is super fucking easy. maybe im actually getting good at this game or my panic rolls matched up perfectly with his attacks.
anyone else beat it first try?

>>182844378
Yes all his attacks are obvious except the shield push

>drop mimic head the first time I try the yorhm double chests strategy
Feels good man

>>182844092
What's sb? (Top tier halberd)

>>182844378
He's basically Alonne Lite. Watch him for his attacks, dodge and then punish once or twice, then back away and repeat.

The only thing that really fucks up the fight is when the Pilgrim Butterflies start shooting at you, but that's what the fountain is for.

>>182844378
>wow. dragonslayer armor is super fucking easy. maybe im actually getting good at this game or my panic rolls matched up perfectly with his attacks.

A bit of both. The iframes in DS3 rolls are not extreme, but the recovery frames are so low that if you mash the roll button you will avoid all damage most of the time, since you're invincible about 75-80% of the time when button mashing instead of DS1/DS2 where you are invincible only ~50% of the time.

>>182844602
you mean spears? Saint Bident.

>>182844672
No, dragonslayer armor is Gundyr lite.

Second phase abyss watchers is alonne light.
>trivialized by heavy shield
>lunges across the boss arena
>heavy estus stingers
>fast roll catches but long wait times between attacks

fuck im playing offline and i need a sunlight medal to join the warriors of sunlight covenant and i used it when i didnt have 25 faith. is it off to farming lothric knights with me or is there another way to get these things easily?

>>182845093
You don't need Sunlight medals to join Warrior of Sunlight in DS3, whut?

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>>182844459
It's all about timing and spacing my dude.

>>182845093
There are no Lothric Knights in DS1.

>>182845220

He either misspoke the name of the enemy, in which case he's on about DS1, which would make sense given the stated faith requirement. Or he's on about the badge you get to use it, in which case he's missed the item, which is in the Undead Settlement

>>182841660
Here, but I am on vacation

>>182845220
ignore that post im an idiot. i need to find the covenant badge or whatever i think.

>>182844672
Even Iudex is 10 times better than Alonne

>>182845093
You seem to be confused. The 25 Faith thing is DaS1 only, and you can farm Sunlight Maggots for the Sunbro Medals.

In DaS3, you get the Sunbro badge in Und*** Settlement, and you need to otherwise farm 29 Sunbro Medals for Great Lightning Spear. Offline, Lothric K***hts is the only way, but you're retarded for doing that since it's so easy to get Sunbro Medals either through co-op or sunvading.

>>182845257
>using Warden Twinblades against the boss that's immune to bleed

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>>182845093
>>182845265
If you're playing DS1, Sunlight medals are dropped by Sunlight maggots in Lost Izalith. The good thing is that they have almost no other drops so when you get a drop it's almost always the stuff you want.

>>182844672
>Alonne lite
More like Tower Knight 3.0. Hell, his helmet is intentionally shaped like that of the Tower Knight in Demon's and the pilgrim butterflies fulfill the role of the archers.

>>182844378
DSA can be easy or brutal depending on how you can get into the flow with him. On my first run he was teeth gnashingly hard but on my last run he was a first try.

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>>182845616
It was 2016. There's a reason they don't have rouge on.

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The Deep is the Painted World. A cold, dark and gentle place, a sanctuary that was infested with rot because it was used as a dumpsite for all kinds of nasty shit. Gertrude saw that nasty shit and documented them as well as she could, but being blind and mute, there where some errors in the translation and the angelic faith was based on it

>>182846116
None of those look like the Saint Bident. And all of that is just Miyazaki re-using assets.

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>>182845545
Maybe he's playing the pirated version or has no PS+.

Speaking of, I only have a month and a half of PS+ left myself before the Sony jews force me to renew.

>>182846435
They are all exactly the same except the bident, which is just very similar. And there are other connections of the deep to the painted world

>>182846435
>>182846116
not miyazaki, you mean some fresh faced graduate who couldn't get hired at konami instead

>>182843943
Git gud

>>182846116
Slight problem, Gertrude's Angelic faith and the Cathedral of the Deep aren't the same thing. The concept of the Deep was borne out of Aldrich's visions of a deep sea. He founded the Church of the Deep based on his visions.

I'd been running with the Deep simply being the cathedral's own name for the Abyss, formed from collected humanity. Since they were sucking the humanity out of settlers and collecting it, but they'd arrived at this idea independently instead of following in the footsteps of Kaathe's Lifedrain, so they had their own name for it.

The lore behind the symbol may well be that it's associated with an old incarnation of the Way of White. The Bident description says a Saint discarded it when he left his faith behind, and it's found discarded at the door to the Cathedral of the Deep. We know that the Corvians held the old Way of White as their faith, and the gate here is found before a small chapel holding the Way of White Corona. The Church of the Deep was probably founded by people who abandoned the Way of the White, and the buildings may have originally belonged to the old faith.

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Post concept art that get you hyped about a Souls game .

>>182846853
>may have
The Pope of the Deep drops gear that pretty explicitly belonged to a high authority in the Way of White. In addition you will find a lot of Way of White stuff in CotD.

I'd also recommend the Jerks Sans Frontieres vid The Bastard's Curse, it goes more into detail about The Deep.

>>182847019
I try to avoid watching lore videos because figuring stuff out is more interesting, and you don't get stuck in a groupthink mindset where everybody misses something because they'd taken a youtube video to be authorative.
Thanks for the headsup on the gear though. The Bident description confirms it's a holy symbol, so the symbol being all over the place makes sense because the Way of the White was all over the place. I'm reminded of Gael praying to the Way of the White's statue of Caitha hidden behind a monument in the cathedral, where it's pretty clear from the start they wanted the cathedral of the deep to look like it had been overhauled from a traditional faith.

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REEEEEEEEEEEE

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behold its size

>>182847019
>The Pope
It's Archdeacon Royce
The PONTIFEX is Sullyvan

Does Leo Ring work on bosses?

>>182848126
Yeah

Is Steel protection ring nerfed in PvP?

>>182848616
Nevermind found my answer on the wiki, 5% instead of 17

>>182848616
It provides something like a quarter of the protection in PvP that it does in PvE.

>>182848616
Yes, it gives 4-5% absorption.

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Oh fug

>>182847532
So Aldrich was a Cleric of the Way of White and while the Gods perished he could overhaul the Cathedral of the Way of White and created the Cathedral of the Deep, after that Sullyvan instrumentalised Aldrich (who was already a mindless Blob) to take over the Old City of the Gods.
So Sullyvan and Aldrich shit on everything the Gods ever created and even raped and ate the Son of the of the former mightiest being in the world.

On another note did Llloyds Clerical Knights hunt Undeads with the Charms and forced them to be Slave Knights?
That would explain why Gael can use Miracles of the WoW.

>>182848750
Wew lad

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>>182845257
>It's all about timing and spacing my dude.
Shame timing and spacing only function in PvP when matched against players very close to you.

Finally got my hands on the final dlc. I've wanted to take down the demon prince with a squad of 4 different black knights or 3 different lothric knights+Lorian. Anyone down for that shit?

Hey /dsg/ what's a good low level pvp build for DS3 without any addons?

>>182846116
>>182846853
>>182847019
>>182847532
>>182848805
I fully expect to see all of this succintly plagiarized and presented as fact by Vaati in a few days.

>>182849056
50

>>182849082
Patrons need to piss in the money bucket first so Vaaaaaaaaati can move his lazy ass to actually steal. You know how it is ha ha.

>>182849028
Sure, always happy to co-op with fellow Sega Saturn players.

>>182849056
PChain
At least one or two +5 stat rings
Hornet
Raw DSA
Borthammer
Dark Hand

>Playing SotFS for the first time.
>About to join CoC.
>Remember NPC quests.
Do I still need to those stupid fucking summons to get NPC gear? I'd rather not lock myself out of them by going CoC.

>>182849028
Gotta buy batteries for my GBC first. I'll be the Black Knight Sword one

>>182849321
>Do I still need to those stupid fucking summons to get NPC gear?
Yes, but you can also kill them and buy all the shit from melentia

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Just spent like 2 hours and 5 deaths just trying to beat Crystal Sage at SL 25. The crux woods is pretty dense with invaders these days. I love it. Hope it carries on to Cathedral.

What are the low SL-metas these days? Like in the hotspots like Settlement, Cathedral, Anal Rodeo?

>>182849028
Sorry guys, PC. By the way I'm not there yet, just checking if someone is down for it. Maybe someone who can make some cool edit if he knows how to

>>182849383
So I don't NEED to? I can just slay them if I want the sets?
That would probably end up locking me out of other stuff, wouldn't it?
Maybe I just don't go CoC.

>>182849386
Still to this day, through all souls. When I'm at the bonfire and I see it fade and no prompt for sitting appears, my ass clenches with fucking fear man when I hear the summoning sound of a Invader. From really knows sound design in that aspect, that sound never fails to bring this feeling of tension.

>>182849474
I think the only 2 NPCs you have to summon are benhart and lucatiel and they don't give you anything IIRC, just kill them. For P8 and Cr8 you only have to find them in all locations, no need to summon

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post """"funny"""" webms

>>182849552
And that very same sound also feels extremely relieving/rewarding if you're trying to get a coop bro for a difficult boss.

>>182849735
How is this funny?

>>182848750
What is this picture even trying to depict?

>>182849738
Yeah, summoning a proper cosplay. I know one of you guys did it here, it was at irithyll dungeon and some summon sign in the jail "jailer" helped me find shortcuts in my 5th playthrough for a "Hexer" build. (I know it like 4 spells but that was before TRC so I was trying to have fun don't hate).

>>182848805
>raped
Nice fanlore.

The oldest you can date Corona or the Slave Knights to is DS1 era, shortly after the gods disappear. They're clearly linked to the Way of White but it's not clear how they're enslaved or by whom. Since Gael seems to have legit faith it's possible that they weren't strictly 'forced' to fight on the front lines, but were manipulated into doing so by the church.

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>>182849735
A hilarious backstab.

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>>182850198

I'm doing my first playthrough.

Does anyone want to tank Jorm while I blow him?

>>182850082
I believe Anor Londo had been abandoned by the gods for a fairly long time by the time of DS1, even accounting for TIME IS CONVOLUTED.

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How is your Souls day/night going lads?
I'm currently bored af at work having a break and eating sammiches, when I return I'll probably play some Dark Souls 3, I want to push through Irithyll and onwards to finish the game while working through TRC on another character. Then probably play Bloodborne for a bit, probably going to clear Forbidden Woods on my DEX character or go to Cainhurst to pick up the Reiter and THEN do Woofs.

Might even play a bit of DS2 inspired by ENB's new plauthrough.

What are you guys up to in Souls?

>>182850586
Playing 1, trying to get 4 new saves built up. Moving two at a time to one area, and killing that boss then switching to the other 2 saves.

>they just copy/pasted DaS's shitty animations into 3
>last game
Why did they have to play it so fucking safe

>>182850586
Working my way through NG+6 with my guiding moonlight atm. I'm having a blast. Where do you work fampai?

When you kill an invader or a host you gain souls. Are those all his souls he carries on him at the moment?

>>182850828
Because they were trying to get the DS1 fans that were alienated by DS2 back, and it was successful.

>>182850586
Playing SotFS for the first time, having not played the DLC or even touched vanilla DS2 in ages.
I think I've realised why I hated replaying the start of 2. I know people give it enough shit as it is, but ADP affecting your i-frames is a real fucking snooze. That aside, I'm enjoying how I don't know everything about this game and how I can actually do a poison build and have it be fun and effective.

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>>182850026
It's not necessarily a specific cosplay, but I love getting summoned as a cleric knight and act as both tank and healing support for the host.

>>182850828
Maybe because people hated DaS2?
Just a wild guess. And while I think DaS2 is way too hated, I prefer DaS / DeS animations over things like DaS2 ripostes that take wayy too long to pull off.

>>182850828
I'd assume because it is such a beloved franchise. They seem to operate by the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" axiom.

>>182850985
But DeS has better animations than DaS as well.

>>182850426
God I hate giant bosses
More time spent running to actually hit something, fucking garbage
Same shit with m'dear and most dragon encounters in the series

>>182850828
Because it was objectively the best iteration.

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>>182850919
I do yard and work around a big property and I do it mostly unsupervised so as long as all the work gets done I can take wank breaks / post on /dsg/ or watch videos on my phone as much as I please basically. Portable Souls would be a godsend in my situation.

>>182851060
It was broken and unfinished. It was just your first.

>>182849781
It isn't
It's a cancerous discordfag, report and move on

>>182850828
They were actually remade, they just look extremely similar.

>>182851284
Could I interest you fine sir in the Nintendo Switch™ edition of Dark Souls™?

>>182850082
He clearly digested that sweat boipuc

>>182850517
Anor Londo was not the topic nibber

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>>182850952
Get used to using sprint instead of rolling, the game is slow enough that movement is much more useful, and then ADP doesn't matter.

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>>182850828
Because to save time and money, when you realize Bamco told them to make development immediately after Bloodborne anon........
You only have barely a year to shit out the last game in a franchise tou never intended to get sequels. While it may play nice and feel good, every time i play and have fun I still lament over looking at the art books and pre-release shit. Lot of shit was cut and for that, the game to me feels like lost potential(never mind the main games stuff) in certain areas or others

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Are there giant lord sized toilets in Anor Londo?

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>>182851339
>report a souls related post that does no harm to anyone
how mad can you get?

>>182851554
>The best boss in Ds2 is worse than Curse Rotted Greatwood or Crystal Sage

>>182851460
Depends on what Souls games would be on the Switch and if I continue having circumstances like this past summer.

>>182851760
>93% failure rate

>>182851761
Then we would have a bigger joke than the Xbox Community in this thread

>>182851760
Crystal Sage was a good bossfight and Cursewoof was also pretty neat. Cursewood is kinda easy but it's very different and the design is cool.

Is there a weapon tier list for DaS2?

>>182851892
Everything is viable in DaS2.

>>182851606
Archdragon Peak looked like a City with a Giant Dome (Hagia Sophia like)
That would have been lit

>>182851892
Default Longsword>Fume/Sun Sword>everything

>>182851874
I too enjoy weakspot mechanics without lock-on options so that players have to make good use of their moveset. More bosses need to follow that concept.

>>182851892
everything is good, but strike dmg, katanas(because counter) and dark are more good than others
In PvE you can have fun with anything you can imagine, unlike DaS3

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I'm here, boyos. So, what's it gonna be? Black knights or Lothric knight?
PC, 120, ng+
If we don't get 4 people, I'll just give it a rain check

>>182851949
you forgot estoc and warped sword

>>182851831
Still a boring repetitive Fight

>>182851874
I like them too, the only fight I really didnt like was Ancient Wyvern, but the run through that level was good and something different

>>182851716
>actual jo jo posting.....
>not a discord fag
Just stop already, your lucky the mods tolerate your ass

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>>182851931
Not everything, sweetspot mechanics were a mistake.

>>182851554
I've been doing this early on, since I have no Agi, but I do still think I'll get some so I can roll.
Sprinting about was how I beat the giant magnet hippo that they put into the entrance of the Forest of the Fallen Giants.

>>182852007
I'm up for it, BKS

>>182852070
Nigger I'll gut you, nothing so far has beaten my 1500 damage R1's with a roaring halber, STR + FAI smelter hammer came but didn't beat it

>>182852067
>post jojo reaction image
>you must be this one guy that shitposted months ago
just kys you delusional fuck

>>182852120
Need 2 more. I prefer to use the BKGS, but my stats are such that I can cosplay any of the 8 possible entities

>>182852075
The only AGI tier thats unplayable bad is 85, everything above that is perfectly workable, the only issue being the inability to roll through Raimes fire orbs but you can just back off from those instead

>>182852210
I mean I want to use BKS, I can cosplay all as well.

How to gravelord?

>>182852070

Why does From hate the BKGA so much?

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>no blue eye orb

>>182852128
How's the relevant? Roaring Halberd was always viable, and its got a generous sweetspot. The BKGA is not viable at all because its fucked over by the sweetspot mechanic.

>>182852463
it's the only str weapon with a decent moveset in ds3 tho

>>182852783

No, that would the Great Club. BKGA was good, but it always gets nerfed.

>>182852323
Yeah, got it. I'm just announcing to the rest

>>182852783
>slow as shit 1HR1
>no range 2HR1
"No"
Also it's quality and the other greataxe moveset is more useful
>>182852835
I'm only getting ingame when there's all 4 btw

>>182852782
Because the Roaring Halberd only has good damage because of the sweet spots, it sure as shit wouldn't be hitting that hard if it didn't

>>182852783
>no shockwaves
>slow as fuck
>consumes an assload of stam
>heavy
>no more r1 into r2
>672ar 40/40 2H
>636ar 66/16 2H

>>182852830
nah, bkga's moveset is way more fun and versatile. it has horizontal slashes in addition to vertical attacks. plus the weapon art is so much fun. great club is cool but it has way less options than bkga

>>182852148
Don't bully jojoposter

>>182852476
>no invasions in the farron swamp
>no jailer covenant
>no Yorshka shop
>no Locust covenant for city streets and most of ringed city
So many optiond they had.

I just got the master of pyromancies achievement without starting the ringed city. Is the achievement cross character or does the Ringed City pyromancies not count for the achievement?

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>Still getting invaded every 20 seconds past Pontiff's at 40 +4

>>182852941
No anon, sweetspot is always a gimp. Roaring is good in spite of the sweetspot, it's not good because it has a sweetspot(which doesn't even gimp it much anyway).
If it had no sweetpost, it'd be much better.

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>>182851831
>DaS2 Babbies suck at the games
Who would have guessed?

>>182853317
I was going to say that it might be cross character because I've done the DLC on a different character, but I just checked that 1 of the pyromancies is obtained from soul transposition and I haven't done that. So the DLC must not count towards the achievements

>>182853381
Your fucking retarded if you think DS2 halbers would have their current damage if sweet spots were removed, literally the entire balancing is "it does high damage but is hard to land"

>>182853405
You realize this webm you keep posting makes it easy to see just how overgeared you are for this fight, and how many Estus you had to plow through to finish? While the fact that you keep posting it makes it clear just how proud you must be to have simply succeeded in killing a boss once?

>>182853240
>even more worthless covenants
Fuck no, that was the problem with DS3 in the first place. Honestly all the bluecucks should be merged into a single covenant and the covenant both autosummoning help for you when you get invaded AND summoning you to help other bluecucks. Aldrich and Rosaria should be one covenant and Rosaria would introduce act as the covenant handler for Aldrichfags but you only can get autosummoned to Anor Londo after you have found the area to not spoil it for newfags. Ditto for Dorkmoons.

>>182853647
>responding to Luci ever....
Anon learn your lesson and filter him.

>>182853647
You can't really be "overgeared" for DLCs that are meant to be taken on with fully upgraded gear and SL100+ characters in the first place.

>>182853421
>>182853317

Does the DLC even have achievements?

>>182854208
no

>>182853031
The moveset is fun, sure. But the weapon art won't catch anyone with a brain. Great club has the r2 which is one of the best mixup tools for rollcatching among ultras. Bkga has a more versatile moveset, but it doesn't matter if you're not going to catch anyone with it. Because warcry r2s can easily be strafed even, the r1s lack shockwaves to disrupt footsies,the normal r2 is so slow that it'll never hit anyone. Atleast greatclub r2 can rollcatch.

30 Vertabra Shackles later and I think I figured out how to invade. Be as much of a cunt as possible. I went from wanting (and expecting) a fair fight, to now waiting behind a corner with 3 NPCs for 10 minutes.

As a dark phantom, the odds are stacked against you, and the host will not show you any courtesy.
>You are usually invading into a 2v1, and then sometimes they summon blue phantoms
>you are not embered and they are
>you have half the estus they have
>the P2P lag is really annoying

The one thing you have is the environment, and be fucking patient. One of my favourite kills is beneath Ariendal Chapel with all the bleed bugs, I was being chased by the host and a sunlight phantom. As I was running around the massive pit, I rolled into the pit and the host decided to plunging attack on top of me (I wear the silver cat ring for these purposes). As I was rolling away and drinking estus, the phantom jumped in and was attacked by a hoard of bugs and bled to death.

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>>182853647
>over-geared
HAHAHA, them goal posts must be on wheels cause they never stop moving.

>>182854069
They will just make up any excuse to defend the game, no matter what.

>>182854048
Sorry, done.

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>>182854293
>DLC has some of the hardest but most satisfying fights of Soulsborne
>beating Gael felt like an actual achievement
>nope DLC bosses earn no achievements but shit like Wolnir, Ancient Wyvern and Yhorm do

>>182854568
You should be glad for that.

tips for a DS3 SL1 build I'm starting tonight?

>>182854568
Only Bloodborne DLC had achievements iirc.

>>182854815
follow up question: which bosses should I abuse bleed on, I know that's how you beat ocerious, who else is weak to it?

>>182854504
>I went in wanting (and expecting) a fair fight
Goodness gracious, this is probably the main reason why invaders in 3 have such a hard time. I'm not going to make fun of you because you aren't complaining about hosts not fighting fair but it kinda boggles my mind why people expect duels to play out like gentlemanly duels.

Or worse yet a lot of invaders want everything to be as stacked in the invaders' favor as it was in Dark Souls 1 with twink pyros with +15 pyro flames in Parish and Depths.

The pvp in 3 is ridiculously anti-invader but I kinda like that invading takes more effort than just playing ahead of the intended gear level for the area and two-shotting players through their shields.

That said, you can still bully the shit out of newbies. My recent Watchdog invasion had me and a redfag teaming up on a solo host and obliterating him and me invading a solo host who retreated to turtle at the Farron coal area. I ended up whittling all of his flasks down with chip damage mostly through his shield but you can't rely on gear advantage that much anymore.

>>182854828
Didn't DS1 / DS2 DLC also have cheevos?

>>182854761
What do you mean?

>>182854980
Crystal Sageru. Most bosses bleed but bleed has been nerfed so dunno if it's as viable as it used to be.

>>182855347
DS1 did not, not even on PC where the DLC came packaged with the rest of the game.

>>182854568
>Soulsborne

>>182855347
Think about it for a second. If the bosses are touch but have no trophies, shitters will get BTFO, give up, and move on. If you stick a trophy on them, shitters will bitch non-stop until they are nerfed into the ground. The shitters will get their meaningless merit badge, move on, and will we be stuck with the aftermath.

>>182855550
Wow Luci making sense on a Sunday..
I'll be shocked

>>182849028
Reinstating this offer. We already have 1 for bks and looking for 2 more kniggas for hot demon on knight action. Call now

>>182855550
Lucy, why do you consider SotFS worse than DS2?

>>182855202
When I first started invaded I was getting my arse handed to me because I kept running in 1v1, bowing and everything. I was treating the fights like pve and spammed L1. Most of the time I would get parried and dodged. I had an invasion last night at the Snowy Mountain Pass. The person I invaded fought me for 5 seconds and ran all the way back the the bonfire, rolled off the cliff to the entrance of the library and ran back through the corvian settlement where he died to the corvian knight, he didn't stop running once. I felt supremely bad for him.

I started a new character, ran to the catacombs for the Great Scythe then played normally up to Gaping. Then I invade someone who hadn't killed Capra, am I the twink asshole now?

>>182855930
upgrade level and invasion area/sl

http://may.2chan.net/b/res/497142444.htm
If someone wants to invade and ruin japanese fun time in their club
Just put password and go into location

>>182854568
>beating Gael felt like an actual achievement
>DLC has some of the hardest but most satisfying fights of Soulsborne
What?
Is it a new meme or something?

>>182856006
Too bad I can't read moon runes, and they seem to be ps4 players only

>>182855634
>>182855872
The reason that this general is shit is because faggots like you respond to namefags. You are opening up the door for more faggots to crawl in with this behavior.

>>182856006
>try to join
>massive lag
yeah, no

>>182856134
>massive lag
Part of fun, faggot

>>182855872
It's more linear, and the extra petrified shit in your path makes the game worse, not better. Enemy placement makes less sense. It broke shit that the original sort of fixed (e.g. the "hard mode" covenant making the yellow Lion respawn). Etc.

>>182856190
If you find not hitting them while getting hit from 5 miles away fun, suit yourself I guess

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Welcome to the salty spittoon. How tough are ya?

>>182856415
Last thread I only gave Lucifer 3 (You)'s

>>182856415
I beat Gael on my first attempt

Why are there no eye patches in Souls games? I'll never be able to make a Serbian or pirate

>>182856415
I enjoy aspects of all Soulsborne games. Yeah. Even 2.

>>182856006
I wonder if the japs have their own lucy

>>182856815
>Soulsborne

why are people obsessed with these ridiculous titles

>>182856815
>Even 2
>even
But 2 is one of three soulsborne games where FROM actually tried
Others being des and bloodborne

>>182856881
Because it's shorter than typing "All souls games and bloodborne" and more accurate than typing "All Fromsoft games"

>>182856987
whenever people say 'souls games' I assume they mean bloodborne as well, so to me the 'borne' is redundant

better than 'soulslike' anyway

>>182856881
Because BB is still basically a Souls game but PC gamers lose their shit if you say that. Rather than dealing with that every time, people just started referring to them as "Soulsborne" games instead.

>>182856104
Of the two of us, I am at least talking about the game instead of /v/-tier "anonEmoose iz Legun XD" shit posting.

>>182857049
Souls-like is a thing too, but it refers to games not made by From.

>>182856794
Why not place a scar on your eye and make that same eye white? That aught to make it close enough.

Reminder not to reply to tripfags

In DS1, how quickly could I feasibly get myself a Pike?

I plan on starting the game after my current game of DS2, and I want a melee based build, rather than the sorcerer I had in DS2. A solid shield+Pike combo has been fun to play around with on my Sorc despite how terrible my stats are for it, so I thought it might be fun to try my hands on in a new game.

>>182856985
I'm slowly beginning to feel this way.
There's a lot that stops me enjoying some of DS2, but most of it stops being an issue later into the game.

>>182857456
10 minutes maybe

andre sells it

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>>182856415
Still without finishing the game, I've played through 3 from start to Anor Londo approximately 100 times.

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>>182857648

Are you that guy who kept restarting at around Abyss Watchers?

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>>182857456
pick master key, kill tutorial boss, reach firelink, go down, go in the tower on the right, proceed straight ahead, past the rope bridge, take the lift in the end, continue normally, go up up and then left. If you hear a tink tink tink, you'd reached the end
Alternatively play normally and you should have access to it within the hour or 2

>>182855550
That... actually makes sense.

>>182856415
I wish I had the image where the sign was edited to "Salty spic" and Yukaslegion's face edited on the bouncer.

>>182857574
Oh that's great. I felt like I got it quite late in DS2 (But might just not have been looking enough for it), and I really want to get my build going ASAP.

Also seems early for such a heavy weapon, but I guess I could just start off by using it two-handed.

How would this look like for an early game build, to get me started?
http://mmdks.com/8oyw

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>>182857776
Probably yeah. Picked the game back up today after a hiatus.

I'm at Cathedral now, with Abyss Watchers remaining of the swamps.

>>182857805
Reaching Andre in DaS1 is basically where the player progression catches up with the difficulty curve.

>>182856794
I think Djura's cap in BB covers the right eye. Also the tricorns look lkke pirate gear in general.

Or maybe make your right/left eye super tiny and obscure it with the brows, then use a black tattoo to look like an "eyepatch".

Gives me conniptions that most of the tattoos are fucking shit and most of them do not even bear any relevance within the game. It would be neat if you could at least tattoo covenant symbols after getting the cheevo for the covenant.

It's even worse in BB where tattoos are non-existent, I wanted to put a hunter's mark on my character.

And why the fuck can't you have more than one tattoo?

>>182857110
>PC gamers lose their shit if you say that
???
I play 50/50 between pc and ps4 and I don't really consider Bloodborne a Souls game because 1. It's distincly named to be not Souls and 2. BB ditches a lot of gameplay conventions that people would come to expect out of a Souls game.

>>182857776
>ywn get that dagger on their hip

>>182858562
>>PC gamers lose their shit if you say that
Case in point.

>>182858270
what do you mean? he's basically at the start of the game

>DaS2 had the rat areas but they were optional
>DaS3 has carthus catacombs but it's shit with only two boulders and floor traps in long, wide hallways so you have to be literally retarded to get hit
Sen's Fortress was so good but I guess casuals gotta get their way

How reliable is Valorheart's bash for breaking guards?

>>182858919
very because it deals a lot of stability damage but also not much because it's slow af

>>182858730
Why would pc gamers in particular lose their shit? If you're talking about sour grapes over Bloodborne being exclusive then why pretty much everyone accepts DeS as a Souls game but not BB? The simple answer is that because it has Souls in the title and it is very similar to Dark Souls.

>>182858919
too slow

will only work on someone who's never seen it before

whats the differnece between dorkmoon adn blue sentinels in ds3?

Why dont i get even a normal concord, let alone a well kept like im supposed to when killing and aldrich fag as dorkmoon?

Which is better for proof farming?

>>182859101
darkmoons get a lighter blue color

>>182858896
>muh casuals
DS1 wasn't the first Souls game

>>182859101
They are the same shit.

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>tfw just learned that NG+7 is the hardest difficulty, not NG+6
>was already starting to pat myself on the back because I thought i was almost done TRULY beating ds3

>>182859213
But it was the first to have an entire tower full of traps and pitfalls.

>>182859101
Blue Sentinels only exist to not spoil players about the Blades of the Darkmoon early on, while also giving then the ability to be a Bluebro. They are the same covenant.
You also get a darker blue shade if you are a Blue Sentinel.

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>>182859073
>then why pretty much everyone accepts DeS as a Souls game but not BB?

Because DeS came first. Let's also not forget the Mustard that will literally spam the threads anytime someone tried to organize a DeS event.

Or this . . .

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>>182856415
I 100%'d DaS1 on a SL1 character.

>>182859281
doesnt it scale indefinetly?

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Took me six and a half minutes but I killed the prince in Lorian cosplay. Should I bother uploading it somewhere or does literally nobody care?

What's a good level to cap myself at for DS2 NG PvE? 100?

>>182859461
No, you can replay it as many times as you want, but NG+9 will be the same difficulty as NG+99.

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How much STR should a Dark build have? What heavier weapons are good when made Dark?

>>182858730
>Dirty Console peasants losing their shit over having an exclusive game
To be honest, I don't give a shit. I have a PC that can run the games, and I have literally all consoles. I don't see what the big deal about this "platform-war" is.

He has some fair points, though Bloodborne does feel like a Souls game, even if it isn't named as such. The playstyle and general mechanics, as well as the feel of the game, all makes them fairly similar in style, and they are from the same developer, so...

>>182859728
27

exile greatsword

>>182859508
>at what level should I gimp myself
>for PvE
SL1 or bust.

I thought farming human dregs was going to be a ball ache, but at SL80 I'm getting summoned non stop

>>182859303
Yes, but it's just different style of doing levels and not "muh cashuls". DS3 Catacombs was imo a pretty fun level all things considered.

And traps and pitfalls have been in the series before, although Sen's was mostly built around it (also they recycled a lot of traps into BB Chalice Dungeons and made new ones).

>>182860047
Casuals complain, things get nerfed or removed. It happens and has happened.

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>>182859905
Bloodborne dropped a significant amount of Souls series "staples" and pretty much scrapped casting altogether and ironically made focusing on ranged combat much less reliable due to the quicksilver bullet limitations and the short range and lackluster damage of guns.

This alone would be imo a significant enough of a change to say it's not really a Souls game as it ditches a lot of the conventions and entirely scraps most non-melee playstyles and even some melee playstyles of Souls.

I really Bloodborne but I don't consider it a Souls title.

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Are we past the point where we can safely say we're not getting another balance patch?

>tfw learned to play unlocked because it's better for melee
>tfw catching people with greatsword r1

feels good

>>182860418
This begs the larger question as to what can we call these genre of games. While its generally agreed Bloodborne is enough of a different game to not be a Souls game, they do have a lot more in common that perhaps a name should be given to this genre that encompasses all the clones. Such as Nioh, Lords of the Fallen, that new sci-fi one that I forgot the name of too. Action RPG isn't quite as descriptive when you consider batman and assassin's creed to be action rpgs too

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>>182861075
Duh, well will fags realize the interns at Bamco just run connectivity, From is making games not focusing on 3 anymore ha ha

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>>182861483
For the purppses of this general I will probably keep calling Souls and Bloodborne Soulsborne but it will be interesting when the next fantasy i.p comes out and is not called Souls or Bloodborne.

Considering the common element to all of the games being discussed here is them being developed by Fromsoft, maybe call them Fromsoft ARPGs and we can be /farpg/ ?

is there a win/loss breakdown for arena battles

>>182862079
No unless you keep score yourself.

>>182861886
No, stop that

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>tfw you invade and return with five tongues

>>182863042
how

>>182863101

two blueberries for two forked tongues
host for one tongue

What are the optimal stats for ds3 dark sorceries? And is the crystal chime an okay catalyst for dark sorceries?

>>182863343
Basic sorcery build with izalith staff
no

So, where do boss and twinkling weapons fit in the invasion calculation?
If I have a weapon with +2 is it beyond the normal +2?

>>182863495
x2

>>182863495
+5 max weapons double it.

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Why does the female Fluted set look so awful?

>>182863495
+2 twinkling/scale weapons would be +4. The number is doubled.

>>182863737
Because waifufags need to rot

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ENB will be playing DS2 one hour from now. He's playing online so if you want to invade him fire up those earlygame invaders but don't be a hacking dick because that's just lame af.

>>182863995
Ayy

>>182863737
Because they have a ton of better looking options compared to males. Wouldn't be fair to them to win everything.

>Farming 2 bandit knives off the hollow infantry that wield them.
>Around 65 slain and I've had none drop, despite a few drop rate + items.
Good old Dark Souls 2 drop rates.

>>182864190
>not CEing a new character named xXxMissCarriagexXx and shitting all over him with bleed hacks and then Decapitate/Mock/No Way gesture after killing him
You don't belong on 4chan if you don't think the above would be hilarious as fuck.

>>182864197
Other than Selen's set all the female only and female versions look terrible.

>go to sleep to a decent thread
>wake up to people falling for tripfag posting and console war faggotry over BB
Yurofucks really are the worst.

>>182864478
Female has a great black set, Binded and Rogue's are also great.

>>182864673
You just confirmed what we suspected all along, you have shit tastes.

>>182864471
Hacks are shitty because they only show you're afraid of fighting the player legit and make them go offline. I watched his yt vids anfmd he said that if hackers start being trouble he'll just play offline.

>>182864787
Binded was widely considered the best female set in the DeS threads.

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Evening gents

Sorry to ask, but I'm making my first quality build just to try a few weapons since I've so far only done INT, FAI, and INT/FAI builds. I imagine I'll end up falling back on pure FAI since I made it a knight and I've got a good build worked out, but I digress

I'm planning on staying at Watchdog's of Farron level for quite a while since I want the 30 swordgrass shield incase I want to do a few cosplay fights as Artorias. Now I'm going to be running through the whole game at about level 29 since I forgot to get my free levels and I don't want to miss out on Dark Blade if I end up swapping builds, so my questions are

-Is 29 still within reasonable range of the Crucifixion Woods/Farron Keep range if I stick to +4 weapons?

-Are there any weapons throughout the game that perform well at low stats, such as when infused with Raw? I'm keen on trying the Claymore if only to get used to the Greatsword Moveset but if it's going to massively underperform at Raw +4 I'll probably miss it for a while

-Are there any interesting weapon combinations available to 40/40 that I ought experience? I read in a thread a while ago that combining a Composite Bow with an offhand Claymore is pretty powerful, but I'm not sure what the major benefits of that are. And I intend to be using Valorheart with an offhand Spear (The main reason I made this build), so are there any other combinations you could recommend?


Thanks for any help you can give me gents

Redpill me on endurance

>>182865202

People put way more levels than necessary into it, 26 is a good stopping point unless you're using heavy weapons. Use the infinite respec glitch to practice with different amounts until you find an ideal

>>182865160
+4 weaponry might be a little high, you'd be better around +2 or 3
Boss weapons usually perform well at low stats, and combined with your intended 40/40, I'd say the Hollowslayer; it's available very early from the Soul of Curse-rotted Greatwood, a good weapon, and fairly low stat requirements. The general rule of thumb for quality builds is weapons that can't be infused.

>>182865335
I play with 20 End in DaS3, or 30 if I am using Ultras.

Let's say I was making a moonlight greatsword glass cannon build, what would be the optimal stats for said hypothetical build? 99 int or 60/60 str-int?