/rpgmg/ RPG Maker General #215

>>182710750
chipset?

Also, does anyone have all the Time Fantasy DLCs? The OP only has the base pack.

premature deaths galore edition

More menu work today.

>General Question
What non-standard status menus do you want to see the most?

>>182748492
I don't know about non-standard. Status menus need to have the relevant numbers, preferably with a button you can press to look at each one and find out what it does. Anything else is just window dressing. A bio or something may look cool, but it's worthless after the first look unless it updates throughout the game (and not very useful even then).

But I mean, if someone want to innovate status screens in a way that impresses me, I'm not going to stand in your way! I just don't have any ideas for it myself.

I know a few people here have been hosing music on soundcloud. It seems like it might be time to look for an alternative.
techcrunch.com/2017/07/12/soundshroud/

>>182750129
seems to happen often. i can't listen to my baby year songs, because old music hosts get shutdown.

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>>182750542
>oldest thing still existing
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/169068
Wow, it's been basically 10 years since I've started music. Which basically means I can't even really say I've been a drawing "main" at this point, because I've spent basically the same amount of time in both arts at this point.
I sure didn't make much improvement in that time.

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I made a cheesy ~super dramatic~ entrance for my final dungeon.

>>182755204
It would have been nice to have the hero's sprite shrink as they get closer to the cave, but at least for now, I've decided it's far too much work to make that look decent.

>>182755204
looks cool

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>>182755204
It's literally just your character walking into a cave.

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>Databasing

>>182756234
Thanks!

>>182756510
It is my character walking *dramatically* into a *dramatic* cave okay don't judge me

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To people having black screen problems with the MV link from the OP.
Delete MadeWithMV from the plugin list.
We really need to add this to the OP.

Any opinions on engine001??
I'm using 2k3 but I would like to turn my game into an action rpg and after looking around this engine looks good for one.

>>182759848
>grid based movement and hit detection
>good for action games
You can push objects around. Jump holes. Rudimentary projectiles. But close
Range combat is not so great. You're going to want to use common events for attacks.

>>182761575
To long to detail in a post. There are surely old rm2k tutorials saved somewhere

>>182759848
2k(3) is kind of... very much not made for that sort of thing, and it shows. Some people have tried, but the results aren't super great. A newer rpg maker might work better, but honestly, you may just be better off switching engines.

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>Wake up.
>Old thread is ded.
Neat. Repostin in game map just cuz.

>>182764110
What are the red dots?

>>182764352
stairs.

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>>182764883

Tell me about your main character
Why does he undertake this adventure?
What does he look like?
What kind of weapon does he use?
Does he have a family waiting for him?
What is his backstory?
Favorite food?

Anything cool on FES?

dang, you guys are ded.
is it time to post progress?

>>182776663
It is always time to post progress

1. Make Mini-boss and Final Boss. (Polished)
2. Tidy up extra events/pit falls.
3. Try to fix hit sound + knockdown graphics.
4. Check player inventory for dungeon items.

Last things on my to-do list before I'm done with this demo!

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>>182771441
>Why does he undertake this adventure?
His excuse is that he's trying to get money for some medical treatments and to let his friend live comfortably, so he took up exploration and treasure hunting. While that's true, he also feels trapped in his home city and wants to get out.

>What does he look like?
Right now he's a pretty generic blonde that wears goggles on his head instead of his eyes. Final design will be something else when I finally get rid of the RTP.

>What kind of weapon does he use?
Heroes prefer swords, but he also knows how to use axes. His specialty is item use, though.

>Does he have a family waiting for him?
Both parents alive and well back home; current plan has them staying that way.

>What is his backstory?
During his childhood, he discovered he had magical potential when an uncontrolled burst injured a friend. He decided to shun his gift because he fears it, though he could heal the injury if he used it. It's a source of trouble and development stuff.

>Favorite food?
Apples.

>>182782136
Ssssshhhhhhh
Let it sleep peacefully forever

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>>182782278
I can't

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>>182782591
Of course not!

stop dying damn it!

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>>182771441
>Why does he undertake this adventure?
Orders from the king.

>What does he look like?
<- Like that.

>What kind of weapon does he use?
420 sword and board every day

>Does he have a family waiting for him?
Nope.

>What is his backstory?
Inspired by a grandparent, they trained hard and became a knight.

>Favorite food?
Steak, probably.

>>182788704
>>182791481

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3Mb upload limit SUCKS! Here's some potato quality gameplay.

>>182793102
Did you play RO at some point?

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>>182771441
I have 3 main characters, but I'll just describe Sabas for now.

>Why does he undertake this adventure?
A little of each of these:
1. He has to fix the Orb of Ultraviolet because without it the land will no longer be in an eternal spring.
2. He has to prove to the headmaster that he'll be able to survive in the real world after graduating the Academy.
3. He's sorta being bullied into it.

>What does he look like?
Pic related. Pale with messy blond hair, kinda shrimpy. He wears glasses, a short cloak (I have no idea what the real word for this is - "half circle cloak" maybe?), a a nice button-up shirt, and long pants.

>What kind of weapon does he use?
A magical focus attuned to the Life Aspect

>Does he have a family waiting for him?
His family's still around. But once he graduates the Academy he'll be in the elite magic-using caste - it would be improper to associate with lower folk.

>What is his backstory?
Sabas grew up in a fairly rich family of merchants. He was well loved, but perhaps coddled too much. Once his parents learned that he had the talent for Magic, they were legally obligated to send him off to the Academy for official training. Sabas did very well in his studies, but tended to freeze up like a deer in headlights under pressure. The Academy headmaster observed this, and decided to hold him back from graduating. The story begins with Sabas being sent on a quest to go repair the Orb of Ultraviolet - accompanied by another problematic student - as a sort of final exam.

>Favorite food?
Buttered noodles

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>>182798907
Whoops that's the old version of the sprite.

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How do you feel about personality tests used to determine your starting class or starting stats?

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Hey everyone
I'm trying to find ---written--- resources to learn about RPGM VX Ace, but I'm having a hard time finding a sort of "from 0 to expert" sort of thing, where it goes from the very, very basics into covering as much of what the program can do as possible.

Most of what I've found so far are tutorials that focus on specific subjects that won't fit what I'm looking for. Anyone care to help?

>>182803065
DW3 for GBC did it, and I feel it was done properly. It was a fun role-playing experience, and your personality only marginally affected your stats. There were ways to optimize your stats through having the right personality, but doing so wasn't necessary to beat the game

>>182741872
Hi.

Just got into working on RPG Maker.

I would like if you could answer some questions i have.

Is there any way to end common events that use a switch to activate witouth relying on turning off say switch?

Is there a way to make a common event not activate unless another common event has passed?

How can i make a common event that relies exclusively on variables?

The resources on the pastebin are free? Im trying to make a commercial game (Patreon games count as commercial i believe)

Thanks for the answers.

>>182758974
how do you do this?

>>182803515
nvm found it, was looking around the program's folder when I should've looked inside the actual program

for anyone who wonders:

Tools>Plugin Manager

>>182803338
>Is there any way to end common events that use a switch to activate without relying on turning off said switch?

Maybe an exit event processing or erase event command could work but if not there still might be some roundabout way to do that. Though really your easiest bet would be to turn off the switch that triggers the common event.

>Is there a way to make a common event not activate unless another common event has passed?
Yes. Have the first CE turn on a switch at the end that triggers the second CE.

>How can I make a common event that relies exclusively on variables?
Call a CE from another event and use variables there. If you mean that you want variables to trigger the CE, you still have to use a switch I think. But you can tie THAT switch to trigger from variables.

>The resources on the pastebin are free? I'm trying to make a commercial game.
No idea on this one sorry.

>>182803065
I think this can be fun, as long as the player can't get fucked over by this.

>>182803164
Sadly most tutorials are in video form, and most only cover some parts too.

>>182803065
I love that shit in Langrisser and Tactics Ogre.

>>182804375
I fiddled with some scripts like VM Advance Time and Custom Page Condition by the way.

I have tried End Event Processing and Self switch operation off but none of those work and the common event loops. Turning off the switch seems like my only option.

Such an obvious answer lol. Gonna try that.

I do mean that i want variables that trigger a CE. Seems like i can use the above option for that though.

Thanks aniways but my game is on modern setting and the pastebin doesnt has that, gonna look elsewhere.

>>182771441
She's just trying to get away from the tribes who shunned her.
She's underfed, tan and has long dark hair. Nothing particularly speshul
A spear.
None at all- got shunned.
An orphan who got pawned off as a bride by her tribe before getting kicked out by in-laws after her husband died.
Any food is good, but she especially likes spicy things.

How could i make the game tell meusing a text box the day of the game?

Would like that the game notifies you what day it is.

>>182803164
Just try something small using the assets (aka the RTP) given

Pretty much the only thing you need to know that you would have to look up is, to make events only happen once in a game:
1st page (after all of your event plays out): set self switch A
2nd Page: set it to only activate when the self switch is activated, and leave the page blank

Other than that, you should be able to learn on your own the rest of the things and how they work

>>182803065
Ultima IV perfected it, the test determined which of the 8 characters you were, then you can recruit any of the other seven at your leisure. The results didnt gimp you unless you were directionless and stuck on the druid town, or too weak to progress as the shepherd. Noobie problems, all playable around.

Remember to back up your stuff

>>182816781
remember to back your ass up into my dick

>>182818212
First you need to get enough affection points so you can unlock my route.

What method can i use do assign a dislike/like system with items?

Say a character likes potions and drinks and other likes swords and guns?

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>>182816781
I do a local backup every 12 hours, and I commit to github whenever I remember.

>>182821339
What would you use that for?

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>>182821339
For the descriptive part of it, just put the likes and dislikes in the character's profile.

If you want mechanical effects, you'll just have to think of something appropriate. If someone likes swords and guns, just make those the weapon types that character can equip. If someone likes potions, increase that character's pharmacology rate.

>>182821918
>>182821994
I mean something like a gift system were you give characters items and then they receive -/+ 1 towards a variable.

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>>182821994
>likes: buttered noodles

flashbacks of my fat ex who couldn't cook shit and probably would've been a tumblr whale but it didn't exist

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>>182771441
Because he doesn't know what else to do.
See pic attached.
Various implements of peace, like rosaries and doves.
No.
That'd be spoilers.
Olive oil.

>>182803338
You are fooling yourself if you think you can make money using freebies and a minimal understanding of the program.

I mean, you can make money. But not for your hard work and ability. It would be charity. You'll get money if you ask for it, not because you earned it.

>>182826070
Well i do hope i get some money either way and that people like what i am doing for.

So far i have everything down except the like dislike system although i think i have figured out a solution for that.

Lets see how it goes.

Is there a way to increase the duration of battle motions? For example, when an enemy evades, it only gets through about 3 or 4 animation frames before reverting back to the "walk" motion, and I have 12 frames I'd like show. The only work around I have atm is to just speed up the animation

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>>182827053
Undertale made money because Toby had an installed fanbase for his music and Homestuck creator shilling the kikestarter to his friends, which catapulted his game to much farther outreach than you'd normally expect from an indie launch.

LISA only has 200K steam owners, a game floating on pretty much its own merits vs. Undertale's 2.5 MILLION owners. And a huge portion of those owners can't even play the damn thing or get out of the tutorial area. That's the difference in marketing and social media outreach.

Food for thought, you shekel-minded jew.

>>182827457
Forgot to mention, using MV

>>182827475
You havent seen how patreon works do you?

I am making a porn game which gives me a better chance to get some money, on top of that i am making a dating sim so there wont be any combat.

Luckily RPGMaker is rarely used for that kind of game which makes it unique in itself not to mention how well it does relies heavily on fetishes.

I apreciate the lesson though.

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>>182827884
I'm well aware, Chaim. Keep thinking your doodles will match up to the talented-if-degenerate fetish creators out there.

>>182828203
Sure.

Luckily i only need 99.9% of that income to be a success.

>>182828375
>99.9% of $27,585 is 27557 dollars
>maybe it's a twist of words, he meant he only needed the fraction of one percent to be successful
>it's $28 dollars a month

If you work is like how you post, I look forward to your googum or evaxephon-esque breakdown in the generals

dun die while I sleep, ok?

goodnight bump

>>182798468
Yeah, it was the childhood-defining mmo for my group of friends.

>>182803065
They're fun to do, but can be obnoxious if you're trying to go for a specific build if you don't agree with the creator on what makes you good at, say, offensive magic.

>>182836048
Luckily, we live in the Wikipedia age so as long as the test is 100% deterministic any schlub can use a guide after their first playthrough

are we ded?

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>>182840082
>ded? y/n
I SAY N

POSTING PROGRESS
I CAN MAKE LAVA FLOORS FROM FF1 AND A SPELL TO PROTECT FROM IT
I CAN INTO FF COMBAT AND MAKE VISIBLE MONSTERS YOU CAN AVOID OR BULLY
PROGRESS

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>>182840365
You had a perfect opportunity to go full Thor and you didn't take t. It saddens me.

>>182841725
(it also saddens me that I managed to typo a two letter word)

>>182840365
Do your monsters chase the player? Move about randomly? React in any way to proximity?

How do I make by game not boring?

>>182846209
Keep things concise, but not static.

Reading a long conversation all in generic text boxes isn't terribly interesting. Small animations will make things feel more alive.

Generic fights should be over in like... 1-3 rounds, and the higher end only rarely.

>>182846209
Make the player really think about a theme. Not just "Yeah this guy/girl/thing/force/being/idea/feeling is bad so we gotta kill it cause... I'm good at killing." It doesn't have to be grandiose but if it makes you think for a few minutes, it's good. Not everything has to be a choice, sometimes the illusion of choice is enough to get the players attention.

If all else fails, lewd

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I made an enemy that starts chasing the player if they get too close. Can't make up my mind if I want random enemies or something like this.

>>182847138
Something like this can be fun

>>182847847
It can, but the pathing in rm is kinda shit and I'm afraid they'd get hung up on the environment too much.

Plus, ideally I'd like to make it so they only follow if they're turned towards the hero, and you gain surprise if you touch them when they're not looking... and wow, the code.

>>182848929
You understand the logic behind doing everything, right?

I work for a team and it's annoying how the project leader bombards me with so many things at once. I can't just finish some scripts in just a day. Sometimes things take a while! Let me focus!

So VX Ace or MV? looks like VX ace has the better established community

I work with a "team" and it's annoying little the grunts work at all. They sometimes don't do a single thing for an entire day, and when they do, it's literally shit I could draw myself in literally 10 minutes for their "daily" workload. Lots of things don't take long to do. Fucking FOCUS!

>>182851098
There's a difference between drawing and designing. 1 drawing might have 15 concepts to it. Maybe not actual drawings, but you know, attempts to get size and proportion, expression ect... Just right.

>>182851010
MV has a lot pf plugins by now and most scripters don't support their Ace scripts anymore.

>>182852834
Yeah, well, it doesn't take a day to draw a single 48x48 icon.

I'm highly justified in my outrage.

>>182852834
There are a lot more decisions to make. Clothes, colors ect...Compared to fanart where everything is already designed

>>182853021
I'm disappointed in the recent collaborators too. Two weeks. They didn't post any progress. And all they submitted was an unfinished chapter with a single event.
But I understand how they got stuck and couldn't move forward. Its easy to say "prison break" than to figure out the details to execute it

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>>182843353
yeah, they move like a player sprite and currently chase, if direct movement is impossible toward the player then they move randomly

>>182841725
Show me YOUR progress. I don't conform to your pace!

>>182850042
look at this guy, we have another Neanderthal in the making

>>182851098
are your team members being paid? because that sounds like the average day for some paid professionals in IT I work with. Hence, why I'm able to browse this and aggy daggy 7 hours a day during the workweek lol. If it's a fan project, your expectations are unrealistic

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>>182856142

>>182828919
Believe it or not thats a good ammount of money around here, i can eat for two-3 weeks with that so yeah thats enough for me at the momment.

>>182821994
I actually found a solution for that. Since my game doesnt has any combat and no party i can use that for my affection system:

Create a common event that can only be activated by calling it. When the MC chooses to give a gift to that character you will get an actor added to your "party" and then the common event is called. The common event will have a conditional branch that states if that actor is present and if the player as certain item with him then he will either lose or gains points towards that character affection variable.

Only problem is that means that the player can only carry one item with him. So whats left is to limit the items he can carry to 1. But its progress and i am happy for that.

>dying

Any good advanced mapping guides?

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I'm not racist, dude. I'm just stating facts from scientific studies.

>>182865302
Needs some cards

>>182865302
big brains doesn't necessarily mean high IQ. Denser/more wrinkly would be slightly more accurate.

>>182866951
its definitely the first step in human evolutionary process though. Skull sizes grew to accommodate larger brains first, up to their natural ceiling, then became more complex/wrinkled to continue growth without needing size. Siilar reason why we don't have 3-foot tall spiders IRL, there's a natural cap on their organic hydraulic legs, so they specialize once at their size limit.

it's actually great to have simple statements with complex explanations behind them, because it gets spergs like you and me talking about a game's trivial additions

>>182851098
>>182853021
fuck 'em. Ditch them and make your own game to show them what real work can accomplish. it sounds like you are dedicated enough to make progress on your own

>>182870664
But there should also be fantastical additions

>This massive 3rd left rib is evidence of a honed user of magic
>Some argue that this bone is the container of a mage's magic power
>Others argue that that's the bone that keeps breaking from frequent tripping while casting spells

I just made a quick gambling npc with some free time I got.

You choose how many coins you want to bet(1~10) and then choose any number you want between 0 to 9.

Is it better if it's pure random or you would like to factor the character's luk stat?

I made it factoring the MC luk stat since she has the highest luk rating in the game, to make it so you should win about 30% (more as you level up) of the time regardless of the number you choose.

Maybe that's too high of a chance, but since the bet is small it'll take a lot of time to gain a good amount of money anyway.

>>182875176
>gambling
How do you feel about save scumming? Reloading until you win.

>>182875354
That's mainly the reason I wanted it to be small bets, you wouldn't save scumming for 10 coins, right?

The cheapest potion costs about 50 coins, and high tier equipment costs about 2500 coins.

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Done! I feel enriched for the experience.
This is progress

>>182875870
It was a 60min tutorial. 2 hours, tops.
You took a week.

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>>182875176
Gambling minigames are fun.

>>182741872
Anyone got the RPG VX Ace crack?
I'm new to RPG Maker but I want to make my own game and I'm following the 'Getting Started' guide provided in the OP.

>>182878046
Or download the demo

Question; Can I make combat like pic related?

>>182885163
I dont know

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>>182885163
.

>>182885375
2003 has an ATB battle system built in. For the newer makers you can just use a script.

>>182885163
Yes

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>>182877906
Good shit anon. The first weekend I had RPGMaker I just dicked around with coin tosses, dice rolling and branches based on dice rolls. Really a great time.

Naturally, now I'm spending my weekends making fucking subway stations.
It seemed like the natural progression.

bemp

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>>182876620
I think that's an exaggeration, you'd have to be a speedrunner to do 19 lessons in an hour, 3 minutes each, while reading, clicking & typing precisely, and cancelling every playtest instead of learning what you're actually doing.

I appreciate that you paid attention from last week though, I have a full-time 40 hour a week career so weekdays are tough to update through. It will take more than this to bring me down

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>>182891006
>I'm spending my weekends making fucking subway stations
I want these tilesets so that I can make a trolley paradox game, were every day on your way to work you're held at gunpoint and forced to decide whether or not to pull a lever that switches tracks & kills people tied to the tracks/on the trains/etc. and every day your choices erode your sanity and who you still see at work/in your neighborhood and how this affects you leading to the endgame.

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>>182901405
Trolley problems?

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Newfriend here. Just finished my first game (about 20min gameplay) and I have to say it wasnt as trash as I expected.

Next I want to toy around with the battle system, first game didn't have leveling and combat actions revolved around answering multiple choice questions (educational game)

My question is. How viable is it to implement a turn based grid combat system. Like you see in ff tactics/ wakfu/ duelyst? Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Additionally, how would you go about adding cards to the battle system (again looking at duelyst)

>>182905829
If you want a kind of RTS type battle system like fire emblem, there might be a script for VX ace that does that or maybe a plugin for MV, however I wouldn't know about either. I haven't really seen too much about that kind of scripting though I heard a while back there was a Japanese script that allowed that kind of thing. Again, don't know if there are English versions of something like that but you can try to look on google. Now as for cards, that's easier but if you mean combine BOTH RTS system AND cards, that's probably even more complicated. Though if you know either ruby or java script well enough one could make it themselves from scratch.
TDLR: I haven't seen something like that for a long time and if you want to combine said elements I'm pretty sure the is no such system unless you make it yourself.

>>182904717

Noob here, using MV.
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to display a quest on screen without using a plugin? Basically having something like "Find X" sitting in the middle right side, and once the player finds X, eventually it transforms to "Find Y" or some shit.

>>182911745
I forgot to mention, I know I can do it using a picture but I don't like how it works, would rather use a window, thanks!

>>182911745
>Make a transparent .png file with only the word "Find X" in the middle
>The .png file need to be the exact dimension you're using. The default for MV is 866x614
>Put said .png into your "picture" folder
>Use the "Show image/picture" command

>once the player finds X, ventually it transforms to "Find Y" or some shit.

I assume you know how to use event switches. Use that and repeat.

>>182912878
Yeah figured out that would be the easiest way if no plugin, that's what I was actually making right now. Thanks mate

So, how do I go on about learning to draw sprites/tiles? I'm decent enough at coding and music but I'm a literal piece of shit at drawing.

GOD DAMN this thread is DEAD
Let me FIX that for you, fucking NERDS

>>182915370
draw ontop of another sprite

>>182915370
Learn how to draw first

>>182915598
>>182916043
no wonder this general is dead

How do I make an event permanent?
Let's say event01 gets activated if I press A and that the variable x=1
Now when I go to another room, variable x still equals 1 but when I press A nothing happens. Do I have to make the event in every room so that whenever I press A, event01 shows up or is there another way around?

>>182915370
to add onto this guy's question, I have no art problems, but how do I determine what's walk-over ground, what's an object, and what's a ledge where you can walk onto one/two/three sides, but NOT pass the fourth? Is it position on the sprite sheets when you uploaded them into the resource folders?

>>182918284
You can use a common event probably.

>>182918403
>database
>tileset
you should see x,o,stars onto it.
X means =you cant walk on it, walls etc
O means you can walk on it, ground, whatever
stars means you will walk behind it, let's stay, a big plant, you'll be shown behind the it, so you'd make like, the base holding the plant an x and the leaves a star.
>>182918728
Will try, thanks

>>182918728
Not working.

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>>182918885
thanks
furthermore, can you work with the stock tilesets, and add tabs/pages to them later, then update your existing maps later? Trying to prototype some map layouts, then intend to replace with and/or add custom art later.

>>182919334
Maybe show us pics of your code?

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Gonna sneak this in before EVO comes back online:

https://youtu.be/L5qkf8DM1cE

If there's an RPG Maker horror game you'd like our crew to play for Halloween, please let us know! See you guys in (hopefully) August for a special interview!

>>182919397
Yes
>database
>tilesets
>pick interior (just for the example)
you will see some blanks numbers (where A1,A2 etc are) by default it's C/D/E that are free I think? You can add tilesets there(they must be in your game folder, in tilesets (inside RM, go to game>open file)
If you want to add let's say, a wall in the A4 tileset, just open an editor and replace x wall from the inside_A4 tileset (that you can find in your game folder) by your custom wall. remember to save the original file if you want to get the wall you replaced back.
>>182919639
It's a basic image display, I just want it to be global instead of having to put it into every room. it's on parallel

If quest = 1
erase pic 1
if button a is pressed down
show pic 1

>>182919970
Maybe it would be best if you guys decide on some games and make a strawpoll for us to vote on.
We don't know what you have played already.

>>182919970
please stay on hiatus forever.

>>182921103
Good point. We'll try and hash out a list around mid-September

>>182922038
No promises

Some times ago on /rpgm/, some anon advice to start out by making a cliche game about a prince/princess got kidnapped by a dragon or some other antagonist. And that the protagonist need to travel to 4 different towns and 4 different dungeons and defeat the dragon.

I think I'll trim it down to 2 hamlets and 3 dungeons. Got stuck making everything. Designing dungeon is the hardest part for me.

For the monster battle, I opted for symbol encounter.

>>182928482
good luck anon

good night bump.

>>182928482
>some anon advice to start out by making a cliche game about a prince/princess got kidnapped by a dragon or some other antagonist. And that the protagonist need to travel to 4 different towns and 4 different dungeons and defeat the dragon.

this is the plot of a yanfly comic, for the most part.

I need examples for standart forest dungeons.
What also would help is just naming game and dungeon that has one, so I can watch the let's play.

>>182934903
This is from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven stars

>https://www.gamefaqs.com/snes/588739-super-mario-rpg-legend-of-the-seven-stars/faqs/35672

It's not a dungeon per se but I think it's a good design that's slightly confusing but not impossible to traverse. It has 4 areas in total. Two above ground and two below ground. It's enough variety to keep it interesting but familiar enough to know where you are and need to go.

never die young

Do you have editors? Where do you look for your editors?

>>182915370
There are tutorials you can look up, but basically just DRAW. The more you try, the more comfortable you'll get with doing it, and the better the results will be. Draw a sprite or a tile. Post it and ask what's wrong with it. Then repeat.

The ~*~True Artist~*~ reply out of the way, making edits to existing things is honestly not a bad way to start. That way you get a feel for what works and doesn't, and it will look better and thus be more encouraging than making things from scratch with zero experience. Start with simple shit like taking a side-facing character's head and putting it on a front-facing body to make the character look to the side, or raising an arm. Then move on to more complicated poses. Eventually you'll get the feeling that it would be simpler if you just DREW this shit instead.

>>182941510

Aluxes is best actor.

GAME
YOUR
ON
WORK

>>182951897
But if I game on my work, I'll get fired!

Doctor's verdict: EXTRA dead.

>>182951897
earned this time off, made & connected 21 256x256 world maps together

>>182955596
good job anon
have a well earned rest

My game heavily borrows from a tv show that used a piece of public domain classical music in a very memorable episode. I kinda want to use that piece in my game as well. Should I?

>>182958640
no

>>182840365
Where is this tutorial from?
And where I can watch it?

>>182958640
Why not? The music alone isn't what's going to push someone to recognize or not recognize the inspiration.

What game is your gold standard in terms of fun RPG combat?

>>182959657
Final Fantasy Tactics. You aren't required to learn the damage or turn formulas, but if you do, your effort is rewarded.

In a more traditional sense, Super Mario RPG/Paper Mario/Mario and Luigi are pretty good, for turning otherwise simple menu choices into rewarding minigames

>>182959657
Nocturne: Rebirth

I'm not shitting you, my gold standard is an rpgmaker game.

I like FFT, I like Bravely Default, I like a bunch of other RPGs, but they all have something lacking in the actual combat. Nocturne, despite having some out of combat issues, is plenty great once you're in the thick of things.

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FFX-2, probably. ATB, but with "startup frames" and "recovery frames".
Unless action ones count, which would then be Tales.

>>182959238
it's built into RPG Maker MV, a lot of people skip it or don't know it exists. It guides you through building a town with people, a small dungeon, and populates it with monsters, items, and tweaks some spells.

>>182962158
Where and which MV version?

Any way I can watch it without updating, if I need to?

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>>182962345
I'm on 1.5 I dunno when the tutorial was added.

>>182959657
In terms of "normal" rpgs - turnbased, no character movement, and such - Megami Tensei has been great since basically the PS2. Super fast and snappy combat where animations are short and sweet and enemies drop quickly once you know what you're doing. The press turn system feels rewarding both when you're using it against enemies and cockblocking them with it. I remember Ar Tonelico was good, too.

If we include less traditional systems, I had a lot of fun with both Valkyrie Profiles, and generally like SRPGs - Final Fantasy Tactics, Fire Emblem, and so on.

>>182962418
I think I am on 1.1 - that's the first place i checked and I didn't find anything

>>182959657
Ffx-2 had a fun job change system, although I stopped using it once I got good. Probably the last final fantasy with real party control. Every thing after that was single character controlled.

>>182968072
Good girl Nanako

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Let me se your work work work work work

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>>182968209

Okay anons, there's a room in which the player is hidden, npc comes in, they go out, and then the player grabs an item left over by one npc. It really isn't challenging and quite boring, what could I add to it, any ideas?

>>182973525
https://youtu.be/fSb8J3sghxo?t=2104
this.

>>182973525
>>182973930
If timecode doesnt work skip to minute 35.

>>182973930
>>182974051
I guess I could do that, thanks for the idea

>>182973525
An angel riding a dinosaur

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Should I bother explaining why aliens look humanoid and conveniently speak english?
Or do I just let it slide due to suspension of disbelief?

>>182975913
Don't bother

>>182974821
There's a supernatural thing in the game that is way more fucked up than an angel riding a dinosaur anon
>>182975913
Make them speak english and have your game being set up in washington DC

>>182975913
If you have a GOOD explanation, go ahead.

If not, anyone who's willing to play a game with aliens in it in the first place is probably just going to accept it.

>>182975913
Does anyone question how Mega Man and Robot Masters speak and not process complex negotiations at the speed of electrons in machine code? You're overthinking the wrong stuff my man

>>182977652
It's because they are polite robots and don't want the humans to feel left out. Obviously.

ded

how do I begin drawing sprites?
software? any tips? any good resources?

>>182982874
copy games you think look good. copy them and see how their poses and frames work for your eye, tweak them, change the hair, then try making your own with less and less of a start on someone else's work. You should probably be using this philosophy on dungeon maps, world maps & monsters while you're at it.

>>182982874
See
>>182944371
For basic spriting, you don't need anything more advanced than MS Paint. Anything that you can draw in is good enough to sprite in, it just needs the ability to use a single-pixel brush of some kind.

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>>182983459

>>182983459
>>182983557
thank you

now that I think of it, a sprite sheet would be useful to start, specially since I don't know how MV's works.

any idea where I could get one?

>>182982874
any program with a pencil/pixel tool that lets you zoom and save transparent .pngs should do.
You also have online tools like piskel

>>182983841
look up pyxel edit. It's pretty damn good, even for the $9. You can try the free version to get an idea of what it's like. I use it and it's what enabled me to actually make things that are usable. The tiling feature is super nice when trying to create your own auto-tiles and characters.

This tutorial came out days after I bought it, perfect timing and still very, very useful today.
>https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?threads/making-rpg-maker-autotiles-in-pyxel-edit.73309/

>>182755204
Looks really great. Only thing is that, as you mentioned in another comment, the sprite should shrink as it walks away. The other thing is that the final dungeon seems to be a generic cave. Maybe add a frame to the entrance?

My game will feature a party of 4 different characters. The possible members of this party will be scattered in the world map (like in Suikoden 2). Are 24 (+the MC) possible members too little?

>>182983459
This guy knows what it's talking about. Art is about basing your work in someone else's

>>182985751
seems a bit high for a one-man-army kind of game, but doable. LISA had 30ish characters I've heard?

>>182985890
I wouldn't say this to someone pursuing oil painting, but it's definitely realistic for where we are.

>>182984605
I'm mostly concerned with character sprites atm, and have really no money left to spare

anyways, all I need right now I guess is a sprite sheet for MV so I can learn drawing on top of it

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>>182987436
watch some guide videos to grasp how the lineup and positioning matters for how the game reads your art and assigns animations to play

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>>182988538
keep in mind all the spritesheets online can be stretched to fit MV's pixel requirements if they're off at all

>>182984764
Thanks!

It's actually not so much a proper "dungeon" as it is a mountain you need to climb (because dragon at the top) but I'll think about making part of it more manmade and elaborate.

>>182985751
Plenty of games make do with less! Much less, in many cases! I love Suikoden, but 25 playable characters is more than enough.

>>182988950
this fucking map, too many extra fights just to talk to fucking ducks in the dead ends. It looks harder right to left than its actual left to right gameplay

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Do you plan on adding branching paths to your story?

>>182990916
I do, five endings in mind so far

>>182990916
No because I kinda suck at making stories. So I'll try to make one mind-blowing story.

>>182973930
>>182974051
Same anon as earlier, so I've made a "if seen by the npc you get a game over system" it works greatly on non moving npcs and I'm too much of a lazy fuck to make it for the moving npcs, considering they're supposed (the npc) to be making something that doesn't require movement, do you think it's a mistake not to make them move? It adds facility too so I don't know, help

>>182992496
That depends how you want it to go though. I meant the don't get spotted mini game to have the player involved instead of waiting around doing nothing. NPC is paranoid, looks around a bit and places the needed object somewhere. if player is spotted during this, something happens like they get booted out or whatever. If you want help on line of sight stuff, here's a great explanation for vx ace: https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?threads/direction-based-line-of-sight-events.3452/

scroll down to the kind of line of sight you want to use and study it.

I bet alot of RPG Maker hopefuls are equipped with vaginias, many feminine design posts here

>>182993262
That link is gold, thanks, do you believe I can make the scripts work without too much work on MV?

>>182993727
MV is almost the same just worded slightly differently. look up what are the equivalent calls and you should be good.

>>182994437
/rpgmg/ confirmed as best general

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Bump.

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anyone seen better swamp tiles than these? asking for a friend

IM DONE

>>183000261
With?

>>183000409
RPGM

>>183001492
Why? What happened Anon?

>>182999994
lookin good fampai

>>183001905
>bored of coding
>swap to rpgm for comfygame.gif
>still have to code to make anything decent
>in a language I haven't learned
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>183002539
>caring about languages

>>183002598
java sucks

>>183002539
What do you need code to do here exactly? Whats your brick wall? There's probably an easy enough solution. Let's hash it out mang.

>>182994706
This ain't summer school. Edumacat yourself

>>183002923
well, it's not java. it's javascript. :p

>>183002143
not mine. Thinking of downloading for the darker waters and spider webs, but was hoping to see more dead/rotting trees

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DEMO COMING...soon...

>>183012290
By soon I mean 2-3 hours.
I hate my shitty internet speed.

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I hope you consider this for your game

>>183014724
Where is the option "shoudln't crossbreed" and why isn't it marked down everywhere on your picture?

stop dying damn it.

>>183017321
i'm about to go to sleep

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ded thred

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>>183017321
>>183021083
All 5 of us are just working really hard!

Fucking boxes

Can someone post a link for some modern setting overworld tilesets? Cant find anything for RPGMaker VX ACE.

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>>183014724
>Dwarves and Elves can't crossbreed in his setting

>>183024147
Delet this right now, shit looks like a demon

>>183024147
Dwarf+Elf makes human, everyone knows that

DEMO INCOMING!
Annnnd here it is. Up to the first dungeon which is approx 10-15 min of gameplay. Though everyone is pretty much asleep by now I suppose. But to those that play it, try and break it and tell me any bugs that are found if you would. And just thoughts in general too.

mega:#!Bg1hnChK!xccg-bwOD_yb_UksDYyE4IhsJKkEIwAONZrbPlhxpcA

>>183027405
Does this use original assets or default?

>>183027405
I'll give it a try tomorrow.
Tell us about your demo, though.

>>183027959
some RTP plus other tilesets for right now. Its mostly rtp stuff unfortunately, though hopefully ill have enough stuff later to just replace things.

>>183028270
Its inspired by the old school 2d zelda's. dungeon crawling, getting items and macguffins to save the land ect.

>>183028270
>>183028532
Also forgot to mention that it's going to end up combining the time travel mechanic and seasons changing mechanic from the oracle games, but that comes at the start of the second dungeon unfortunately so I couldnt show that off JUST yet.

>>182986748
>>182989116
Thanks. I think 24 will do it

live

is yoga evil?

>>183034569
It helped Hank heal his back after he injured himself lifting two propane tanks at once.

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>>183034569
The fuck did you say?

good night bump.

>>183037075

>>183027405
>200MB
>10-15 min of gameplay

Pretty sure you can compress your project down to 80MB.

>>183041186
>>183027405
>VXAce

I thought it was MV, my bad.

Testing to see if I can I sage my own post

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What's your opinion on maze-like dungeons?

>>183043339
Generally obnoxious, but acceptable if you have really good gameplay.

>>183043339
I like a bit of everything.

My VX Ace project1 had
>Regular, linear dungeons
>Find keys in chests to move on the next floor
>Kill X enemies
>Telepod maze
>Regular maze
>Party split
>Puzzles with statues/switches
>Points of no return(final dungeon)
>boss rush

>>183043339
Hate them.

Please kill yourself if you couple maze dungeon with unswitchable random encounters.

>>183047025
This though. In the least make more than 50 required steps

>>183047025
I wouldn't go quite that far, but please don't make people sit through a maze with unskippable randoms. It suuuuucks.

Stay alive lil threado

Does anyone have the FSM: woods and cave tileset?

finite state machine

>music for fun

>>183043339
mazes are fun, suffering through random encounters while mapping it isn't. Switch puzzles can be okay, or scripting 3 or 4 specific fights in certain parts of it.

>>183043339
>>183061421
if you can set it for like, 10 random encounters max in that size maze, and then you stop getting random encounters, that would feel appropriate too; the monsters are stuck too, but you eventually run out of them as you stumble across all the other groups wandering in it, and you feel good about both beating them, and overcoming the maze they couldn't.

I will not let this happen

>>183043339
>>183061548
This is one instance where I feel on-map enemies would really shine. Not only to limit the amount of fighting necessary to get through, but it'd also serve as a marker that you probably have or haven't been through before because there are/aren't enemies around.

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Work on your game

>>183065131
Except you are in narrow passages and there's no avoiding them.

>>183069538
You can make an enemy avoiding state in the case that's a problem. Invisibility, monster disguise or something, maybe add that Paper Mario badge that autokills enemies if your level difference is big enough.

>>183068207
work on my dick with your buttcheeks

Two spells. One inflicts random mental ailments and the other ALL mental ailments. Which one should I call Sanity Ruin and which one should I call Sanity End?

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Have you missed out on a few /rpgmg/ threads?
Saw something that you really liked but the thread was a long time ago?
Or do you just want to know how to find these threads easier?

On google, you can put into the search bar this command and you won't have to go through the catalog and search.

>site:4chan.org rpgmg

That will filter out all of the crud that you don't want to see. You could also use that to find other generals that you might want to see. But the archive only goes back like 4 threads so you are limited by that.

>>183073827
eat poop, podcaster.

>>183073827
Should work with other search engines too, if you don't want google to come steal your kidneys while you sleep.

>>183077490
I tried with duckduckgo but couldn't find this thread for some reason. I'd rather not use google also

>>183075032
How do you know that I'm not already

>>183071949
End has a stronger meaning compared to Ruin, so Sanity Ruin should be the weaker spell while Sanity End gets the stronger one.

>>183077807
>>183073827
Considering you trip I know that shouldn't even be a question but are you retarded? There's a lot of 4chan archives you fucking retard

>>183071949
Mental Ruin
Sanity's End

>>183079435
But this way you can bookmark the search results and have the current thread(if there is one) or the one you were viewing if it had just been archived.

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>when you're so ultra-mega-nodev, that you make a show to talk about the games you've played so you never have to cope with the fact that you are not making game

>>183081982
Have you never used an archive? You can literally even view the thread you're posting in as it is being archived, jesus.

For now my gameplay is 15 mins long, I have never done so much, I'm so proud of myself.

10

bug fixing. i don't know what happened.

>>183002923
Javascript is the best outcome that can be expected of 10 days of design and implementation, compounded by years of building on bad decisions and bugs for the sake of backwards compatibility.
Really, it has some neat features.

>>183027405
>That feel when you wake up after sleeping a lot and yet your body still feels super fatigued.
Ugh. So anyone play my little demo yet to tell me how much it sucks?

>>183086892
I didn't play it but how long did it take you for 10-15 mins of gameplay?

>>183087661
About a week or so. Could have been less if I worked more each day but I don't have too much time in general to spend on this as I'd like.

>>183087795
It took me 40-50 hours in 7 days to achieve the same as you, did I do anything wrong? I didn't even slack off.. But I'm just getting started on rpg maker.

>>183088052
Well that's just it then. I know a lot about this engine so I figured out how to do what I wanted quickly and where to look in case I was stuck on things.

>>183086892
>So anyone play my little demo yet
I intend to. What version? What's it look like once downloaded? Is it its own .exe? Or do I have to load it as a project and playtest it?

>>183091623
VX Ace. Extract the file, run the resulting file and it will make a folder with the game.exe ready to go.

>>183091867
repost that link again in the next thread, and stick it in aggy daggy too then. They have a thirst for yesdevs. Or I'll do it for you, but roleplay you as a smug asshole

>>183093578
What's a yesdev? And don't do that.

>>183093968
people who make games, even if just at the demo step. nodevs spend all day not making shit or getting anywhere and post in ways to drag yesdevs down or critcize their work when they couldn't make anything a fraction as playable if they had all the time in the world.

>And don't do that.
Then go share your demo in /agdg/ please so I don't have to

>>183094212
Not him but isn't /agdg/ a hostile place and will ridicule him for using RPG Maker?

>>183095042
such empty criticism must be endured, if that weak bullying gets to you, you must develop a thicker skin as a gamedev. And for every one of those posts(which aren't common), you'll get 5 positive comments for just making something playable in the first place. If you want to go somewhere where you get only upvotes and fellatio, reddit would fit the bill, but we choose to post here for a reason. Even the shitty podcasting tripfags here roll with the insults and keep doing what they want.

>>183094212
I see.
>>183095042
>>183095345
Well, I don't really mind the "mindless ridicule" but in the case of sharing it in a place like that I would prefer to wait until I have the second dungeon fleshed out and finished so I can actually show case the main mechanics I'll be using. As of right now, I consider my game 'boring' since all you do is beat a simple dungeon essentially.

I like criticism, but only if they actually explain why they say things and not just 'hey you're game sucks just cuz I say so'. I just tune out that sort of thing.

>>183095951
they love demos and do dedicated demo days, but you should submit it and see what the response it anyways, the praise will be better when you follow up with the second dungeon and they like repeated updates

>>183095042
Honestly the only difference between these two generals is the questions about devving problems are specific to this engine here, and over there they enjoy more shitposting to stay more active.

>>183097587
Alright I'll lurk a bit a post a bit later.
>>183097710
Just having the general open and holy shit it moves so much faster than this place.

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So, this happened.

Generally speaking the maps are nice and pleasant to look at. The writing is serviceable and there are only some minutes of story before having control. I am not really feeling the combat, though. It feels floaty and disconnected. Sometimes it feels like my attack should hit but then the enemy turns away. Also they seem to attack without any animation so I don't know how to position myself.
I got to the boss but ran out of healing potions.
I think it has potential, you should keep at it Anon.

>>182975913
Do you NEED to have the aliens speak English?

>>182990916
Three endings. Mass Effect 3 style.

It is ok because the game parodies ME quite a bit and it is dumb porn anyway.

>>183098313
Ah. Allow me to shed some light then.

The bats and spirit are meant to emulate the keese and ghini, in that they pretty much are able to go wherever they want and if you punt them into a wall and kill them you would be screwed out of a drop if something did drop.

Now combat wise, the enemies are supposed to do damage if you walk into them. They don't have any other kind of damage attack whatsoever which is why there's no animation. However, because of the way the battle engine I'm using works, there's really no way for me to tell if you bump into the enemy since (most) are solid events and the engine can't figure it out either. Because of that I have to set an AOE 1 tile around them that hits you if you touch it which is why sometimes you take damage even if they aren't facing you or actually touch you. Perhaps if others say that's a bit too unfair I'll try to see what I can do to change it, but as it is I've tried to minimize damage done to the player for stuff like that. If you take too many hits though, then yeah you're probably gonna lose.

I do agree though that hitting the enemies is a bit more difficult than it should be at times, and as of writing this I think I figured out a way to correct that which I will try out in a few minutes.

And lastly, once you get the dungeon item, the rocks that you can break occasionally drop those healing hearts which you can stockpile before the boss. Though I made it just sparse enough that you wouldn't want to grind there for 10 minutes just getting health but you could if you really wanted to. To combat that, I tried to make the boss unable to be hit stunned unlike the miniboss so that you can't just rush in and beat it quickly. But maybe that makes it a bit too difficult I don't know.

But all in all thanks for the feedback! I await others giving me more feedback as well!

>>183027405
>combat
Can't say I'm too fond of the ABS script. The enemy attack detection is like instantaneous, so it's practically impossible to defeat anything without taking damage. The aoe of your sword also seems to be strictly one tile infront of you, so it makes the enemy attack problem even worse. I'd drop the game after the first couple screens with this battle system.

>writing
I didn't pay much attention to the content of the story, because I'm not a story kind of guy. You didn't commit any ridiculous errors, but you did miss a lot of things I always pay attention to, and it's mostly related to commas and periods.

Interjections(?) - you should separate them from the base sentence with proper punctuation.
ex
>ah, what do we have here?
>hey, are you okay?
>oh, wow!

Referring to the second person - there should be commas separating them from the sentence, because it changes the meaning of the sentence.
>fuck that man.
vs
>fuck that, man.

Then for a general thing, you should be more liberal with your periods (to separate sentences when they should be). There are lots of situations where you should definitely end a sentence with one or two words, because the "thought" is already complete.
>hey, buddy. i'll fuck you up if you don't back the fuck up, all right?
>all right. that should do it.
>sweet jesus! that's pretty nutty, huh?

But also relax on the ellipses. I particularly remember a sentence when the protag got teleported, and was being telepathically spoken to by the whatever, and you separated the protag's name with ellipses instead of a comma.
>jimmy..are you there?
>jimmy, are you there?
There are times when "name.. stuff" is more appropriate than "name, stuff", but this wasn't one of them. You'd use it when the speaker takes a much longer pause than what would be expected in a normal conversation. Since they're just chitchatting after the protag was teleported, this wasn't one of those situations.

bumo

>>183103554
Alright so be it, I'll try my best to change the way enemies deal damage. I'll also take a look back at the dialogue and change what I can, but I'm not that great with grammar rules so it'll still not be perfect most likely even after a revision.

>>183107462
>new devs in charge of graceful, unautistic response to criticism

Watching core script development on github; it's shaping up to be a beautiful nightmare.

>>182741872
Don't have access to Google doc link, anyone have a copy?

>>183107462
Turns out I impress myself with how quickly I can solve problems. I figured out a way to not only make enemies easier to hit, but now they only attack what's in front of them at certain intervals and if you don't want to take damage you can't just rush in blindly to hit them. You actually HAVE to dodge a bit and hit them by their sides if you don't want to get hit.

>>183113430
>You actually HAVE to dodge a bit and hit them by their sides if you don't want to get hit.
Sounds MUCH better.

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What's that Anon?
I should redraw the boxring because I fucked up and only saved the .png?
Okay.

>>183113430
Note to self, even after the changes, the spirit enemy is STILL an asshole. Oh well it's something.

>Have /agdg/ open for a bit. Check back after an hour and all of a sudden thread is gone to shit with insults and whatnot.

Wew lads. This is why I like you guys more. Even if we slow it's still more comfy.

>>183118845
right

Alright, fixed all enemies except for miniboss (as I think it was fine to add a bit more challenge), and I gave the boss a few more wait frame times to make it a bit more manageable. Also did some slight dialogue fixes but I don't know if it's better now or not.

So, if I were to upload the updated version, should I just not include the RTP from now on? I know it's generally a good idea to include it in the game package but it might make my file size a lot smaller and since my internet speed is horrible, it would be faster to upload as a result. People could also download the RTP separately so...

how come no one has done a psudo 3-d game with the available plugins?

>>183120482
People here would have the RTP installed but if you want to show your game anyone else you should include it.
I would suggest continuing to work on your game (maybe add the second dungeon) before uploading a new demo.
Most people won't care for small changes.

>>183121371
Because as far as we're aware, there's no plugins available to replicate that feel... in MV at least. There's like... one Mode7 plugin in English that's nowhere near done and there's no indication of WHEN it will be done either. No download links, nothing.

For the closest thing to a pseudo 3D game done in a recent RPG Maker engine, the same guy behind the Mode 7 plugin for MV that's not done yet also made H Mode 7 plugins for XP and VX Ace

http://save-point.org/thread-4404-post-30501.html#pid30501

H Mode 7 maps are apparently more laggy in VX Ace than XP though, for whatever reason.