/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

name one reason why

>>182721996
first for java

>>182721871
They aren't worried their friends will see them play anime tits games?

Game dev unironically makes my life better and happier. The feel of sitting down to my monitors full of code and 3d modeling and gamedev websites making progress while next to me I'm gaymin on my tv. This is the life boyos.

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>>182721841
Copying progress from last thread.

>>182722125
I haven't had a goodnight sleep in two weeks since starting. Tired of going to bed at 5am.

>>182722161
Cute! What is that cat rabbit thing? A pet or enemy or what?

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Trying out new images for the background.

>>182722161
Hey, what engine are you using for that? You mentioned "not in this engine" in a previous post. I'm curious now.

>>182722428
collectible
you'll be able to collect them, fuse them with another object, and then be able to upgrade equipment or stats.
That's the current plan.

>>182722497
it looks like you pasted an image into microsoft paint and then erased some of it to be honest

>>182722497
Good old cancer free Fusion 2.5 by clickteam

googum, explain to me why do you consider yourself a master gamedev but your skills are begginer tier?

Is like you don't give a fuck about being better and more skilled.

pls reply, this is a serious question.

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working on new animations
(disregard the cape, its shit, i know it)

>>182722059

Really? Who cares?

Only people who worry about that stuff are literal pussywhipped cucks who have their gf linked to their steam account. And you don't want those people playing your games anyway.

>>182722705
Is that sarcasm? Also have you seen what they're doing for Fusion 3?

>>182722424
That used to be a real problem for me too but I have been lucky lately and am on a pretty decent sleep schedule.

>>182722909
Yeah, it's sarcasm. Some things are great. Some are really bad.
Fusion 3 is hopefully going to minimize on some of the problems I have, as well as it's not going to be using tech and coding from 1995.

>>182722650
Is it because the background is too detailed or is it the same with all my other images?

>>182722850
you should learn to draw first before trying to care about how things look
loomis that shit up

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>>182722831
pls keep the googposting in the other thread

>>182661915
>we did market it actually. sent a bunch of keys to a bunch of people

thats not marketing though.

>>182723080
Kinda the same with all the others, but I think that I wouldn't see it that way if there was a motion paralax since that'd make the white stuff stand ahead of the background. I can't remember if you actually had one on the other things you'd posted.

>>182722734
>Hotline Miami did an incredible job of making the player uncomfortable
I actually interpreted that game as more of an artistic "admission of inner evil" over the enjoyment that can be derived from violence. It struck me as something that was supposed to create as mixed an emotion as possible. I definitely found it to be a better game than infinite though.

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>>182722497

Write a script that searches the players computer for images and randomly places them as the background.

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>>182723428
>It struck me as something that was supposed to create as mixed an emotion as possible
That's exactly what I mean.
The gameplay is a lot of fun but the game doesn't let you forget that you're killing people. The sequel manages to be even more fucked up.

Infinite, on the other hand, is just a mindless shooter that periodically stops to jerk itself off because Ken Levine is a pretentious twat.

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>>182723428
Here's a video, is it still bad?

>>182723564
Source on that?

>>182723769
even hotline miami follows the tropes of male disposability and murder being justifiable.
...except that one time they didnt and it caused outrage and they changed it.

>>182723887
Mist needs its own parallax layer

>>182723887
>Here's a video, is it still bad?
no it looks a lot better when you can see that the platforms are separate from the background

>>182723887
I can't even begin to understand why you would try to do graphics like that.

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Would this be too hard for a hacking minigame? Once you learn the pattern it's pretty easy but it can be frustrating at first.

http://www.logicgamesonline.com/lightsout/

reminder that googum is an alpha male
if you disagree then you are an idiot

>>182724061
That's good, glad to hear it.

>>182724071
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>182724030
>male disposability
The enemies are almost exclusively Russian mobsters.

>murder being justifiable
Even though you almost exclusively kill Russian mobsters, it's still presented as Fucked Up.

God, I fucking hate you. You are such a stupid, pretentious twat.

>>182724030
>even hotline miami follows the tropes of male disposability and murder being justifiable
You really think the russian mob is going go for the equal opportunity thing? I think that troupe, in and of itself, is also sort of an "admission of evil" too. Even when Jacket chooses to spare someone, it's because he's really just because he has a double standard. I don't think that means the developers themselves are actually pushing that standard as a good thing.

>>>182721094
>The enemy shoot spread bullets but if the player also moves, the bullets need to rotate along with it.

So, you want the bullet sprite or model to be aligned with its trajectory? The particulars depend on which engine you're using, but basically what you want to do is to get the rotation of your player and then set that as the rotation of your projectile when you spawn it in. Should be plenty of tutorials out there for that if you're using GM/Unity/Godot.

>>182724203
"All boards that default to the Yotsuba B or Burichan (blue) themes are to be considered "work safe." Violators may be temporarily banned and their posts removed. Note: Spoilered pornography or other "not safe for work" content is NOT allowed on the work safe boards." sorry anon.

>>182724238 (Me)
>I think that troupe
-by which I mean "the presence of that troupe, in this particular game" and not "the troupe in general"

fuck art

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>>182724203
Thanks :)

>>182724089
99% players are just going to randomly click cells until shit matches.

>>182724030
we have double number of mothers than fathers.

males are disposable because that's how it works in biology.

60 million males died in WWII yet the population didn't suffer.

most females have bigger survival rates in disasters than males.

the fact is, losing a big percentage of males is not a big deal for society, as most wars prove, meanwhile losing a percetage of females can be devastating to a society, since they're not able to make as many children as males.

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>>182721841
- Learned how to use states and implemented a dodge mechanic
- Implemented some afterimage effects
- Did minor tweaks to some values.
-Various small visual tweaks even though it's programmer art, but sometimes I'll do anything just not to work on the thing I should
I had some fun honestly

>>182724553
Yeah, I did that a bit at first. Why is it so hard to find a good mini-game?

>>182724790
engine?

>>182725086
GMS 1.4

>>182723564
source

>tfw learning how to properly use tris pre-subdivision
I usually just make models for animations and not for things that are rendered live: how do I know how many polys is too many polys? Right now I've got a hand that's 118 polys pre-subdivision with 6 tris, and 466 polys afterward. Is that normal for something that could run on say, a decent laptop? How much of an effect would polycount have on performance compared to things like effects and stuff?

>>182725291
He either just got banned for posting the source, or he just deleted his post. I think I know it, though.

Creator: sunsetriders7

Material: avatar: the last airbender
nickelodeon
the legend of korra

Characters:
korra

>>182725465
466 polys will run on most phones these days bud. The most important thing is how many polys you want to render on every object in a particular area.

>>182724201
i dont get what youre saying here? hotline miami doesnt follow the trope of male disposability because russians? are russian men not also men? the only female in the game is saved.

>it's still presented as Fucked Up.
yeah sure, it's presented as ~wow this is so fucked up man whoa all this murder what~ but its not actually controversial because killing mobsters is a-ok because murder is justifiable!

>>182724567
sure i see this biological truth as the source of it but that doesnt make it any less immoral or hypocritical. To be ok with men dying means you dont value male lives which mean a society like America who has an ideal of human equality is complete bullshit. they'll clutch their pearls when shown the facts because their actual morality does not match their stated morality.

>>182725465
The Playstation could render 360,000 untextured polygons per second, or about 90,000 with textures and shaders.
That was 20 years ago.

Connor in Ass Creed 3 has about 28,000 polygons.

>>182725681
>466 polys will run on most phones these days bud.
Well yeah, but if the hand is 466, that implies the body will be quite a bit more, etc. I was kindof hoping people would extrapolate.

>>182725717
is how nature works, nature doesn't care about human feelings or morality.

women live is more precious than males.

a single male can have hundreds of childrens.
most women can only have a dozen at best children.

therefore women are the precious commodity.

nature doesn't care about your MRA feelings.

what do you think about Panda3D anons?

>>182725989
Not talking about nature

>>182725717
>Mother Nature is rude to us males wahhhh fuck America
The arguments of a 45 year old man.

>>182725964
> about 90,000 with textures and shaders.
At 60 fps that'd only be 1500 though, which is like three hands. Though I'm going to have flat colors so I should probably have looked at the 360,000 estimate.

>That was 20 years ago.
good point

>>182724238
>it's because he's really just because he has a double standard.
woah, forgot to delete the first thing I wrote before typing over it

time for bed

>>182725989
>mother nature doesn't care about your lives
>mother nature values lives based on how many lives they can create
pick one dude

>>182726410
>evolution is just a lie

>>182725989
>>182726210
http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html
Article 1

>>182726484
I never said that, but you're swinging the definition of "value" between two different things. It's like when people mix up the words "purpose" and "biological function".

>>182726218
Typical characters in games these days have 10-30k polygons.
https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/yes-but-how-many-polygons-an-artist-blog-entry-with-interesting-numbers.39321/

I can't find polygons per second for the PS4, but last gen systems seemed to be capable of over 200 million, and that's 10-year-old tech.

>>182726562
Also keep in mind that AAA games have plenty of LOD models as well

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>goog disappears
>constant bokushitting
>bokushitting stops
>googposting is back

>>182725979
Hands and faces are (usually) the most detailed part of a model unless you're designing some sort of wacky JRPG costume to go with it.
I don't think I've ever bothered counting the number of polys on a hand before; it's not really likely to be an accurate indicator of the total poly count.
Either way, its more important to have an idea of how many of these characters are going to be rendered at once and how detailed your levels are going to be. Whether you want to render two of your characters on an empty street (e.g. a fighting game) vs 50 characters in a forest or whatnot is going to be the deciding factor on how detailed they can afford to be.

>>182726936
im surprised shitposters cant multitask

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>>182726936
but who remembers stella posting?

REEE SHUTUP GOGEM

>>182727249
this

>>182726936
>>182727040
i still remember rotateguy and marmorealposting fammytams

Any of you guys ever just hang out in the GTA 5 world and be impressed with it? Or any other open world city game where citizens are going about there days with realistic traffic.

>>182727350
I don't even do that in the real world anon

nature also doesn't care about consent. if it's okay for me to die in a war it's okay for me to rape.

>>182727460
Nature has nothing to do with morals. If you want to be able to rape, don't be surprised when people don't afford you the other parts of normal social interaction like respect or freedom.

>>182727336
I'm still requesting the marmodev screaming pics but nobody will drop them

Way better than Rotateposting. Fuck that guy. At least googs has non repetitive shitposting revolving around him.

>>182727350
>GTA
>immersive simulated reality
Traffic and people walking, whoaaaah

>>182727615
I miss the shitposting of that "cat" and sordposting.

>>182727350
just wait until some autist engineer comes up with ways to prefab entire open world games w/ shit like AIs

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>>182727663

>>182727350
When I was a kid, yeah.
But these days I've played so many open world games that they all feel pretty shallow, especially when they can't even be bothered to include real side quests like TES.

>>182727559
>Nature has nothing to do with morals
Morals are a reaction to natural decay. If we have morals we go further as a species because we can deny natural instincts that cause other societies to fall apart before they can even solidify as a tribe.

>>182727350
>GTA 5 world and be impressed with it
when I was younger yes, but now that I have a good idea of how all their systems work, no.

Like you can't just walk up to someone, have a unique conversation with them, take them on dates and then have them be your partner. citizens are basically zombies stuck in their daily AI roam loop who retain no information about you

I wish a game with sophisticated ai existed, but it probably wont for another 50 years

>>182727615
non-repetitive?
>links a youtuber again

https://youtu.be/l-tYj1HVYEY?t=2h38m34s
HAHA REKT BTFO GOOGEM
I WATCH 10 HOURS OF THIS SHIT EVERY WEEK FUCK YOU!

>>182727845
>crying because you got made fun of for 10 seconds on youtube
L O L

>>182727919
That's his point

>>182727845
>July 13th
That's my point

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-vzmuumvkewRTVOTnpHRHpBSW8

Hey agdg will you test my first level of my project? Its for a 48 hour gamejam im doing and I want some feedback before I hurry on deving the 2nd and 3rd levels.

>>182727805
>Ai with proc gen personality traits
>every entity recognizes previous encounters and builds relationship based on those values
>Ai makes most of their own decisions without you needing to handhold them
>almost nothing is hard coded. everything they do is dynamic and abstract
>Ai decisions are based on a profile which details how they were raised, meaning just giving them the 'right' answers wont always yield favorable results
>IE, buying books for an AI who is struggling with their studies might be more likely to join your party(but the ai wont directly tell you they're struggling)

>>182727805
>when I was younger yes, but now that I have a good idea of how all their systems work, no.
It should be more impressive if you know what's behind it. Where's your almost-perfect simulation of modern society?

>>182728497
Once you know how the system works it's easy to see the cracks.
You can be impressed by the technical achievement and still find the end result bland.

>>182728415
>the sims

>>182728658
Do the sims characters actually remember things you've done with them? I thought they just had a 'like' meter for other people.

>>182728809
I think they get bored if you repeat the same interaction but mostly no, they don't remember shit.

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>>182722161
Tinkering with the code more, and I finally figured out how to make multiple objects of them move randomly independently from each other! Now I just need to figure out how to set it so with the animations and them jumping.

>>182728809
That dude is greentexting the future he wants to see.

>>182728809
t b h im not sure, I think there are hidden stats, like what conversations they preferred

>>182728891
Can't wait for them jumping, they seem a bit boring as is

>>182728658
Sims AI is rudimentary.
It's still too early in history to make anything close to it, but I can dream.

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I got automatic stat placement functional. probably still missing some stuff here, but now I just need to make the combat system fully functional for 5v5 fights, this is going to be a massive pain.

>>182729187
>DBZ

>>182729017
You could easily make everything you just said right now, the only hurdle is that AI isn't advanced enough to proc gen dialogue that feels unique, so you would have to write a bunch of generic lines so that the AI could slot in their opinions about whether they hate newspapers or mudcrabs.
However, if you set the game in a world where all of your NPCs were some sort of creature that communicates with sounds and gestures, like cavemen or a wall-e style robots, then you could definitely do all of that and have it feel somewhere near real.

The reason that nobody has done it yet is because its not worth the trouble, when you can just do the sims style AI.

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>>182728891
so many tiny boxes

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>>182729305
I can't be the only one who wants a sequel to this. I've rebalanced the combat math, and I'm adding in giant characters as well as up to 5v5 battles. In addition to new characters, the game will be on Love 2D at some point, just gotta get it fully functional in text form, then Love 2D, and then probably never actually getting it sold to Bamco for release on PC and mobile devices.

Still not 100% on which way to balance the 1v5 fights though. Either multiplying stats by X2/X3 ect or reducing incoming damage by X5, ect, it will likely be multiplying stats, so Nappa in his 1v5 will have 6,000 HP, and deal 5 times normal damage. but that will have some exponential scaling issues when it comes to stat bonuses, will likely need to add stat bonuses after multiplying damage.

>>182729542
>the only hurdle is that AI isn't advanced enough to proc gen dialogue that feels unique
this is the big problem with that sort of thing, I think
You can build elaborate systems that interact in interesting ways but you just can't make them interesting to talk to.

kilk yourself

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>>182729768

>>182729953
what the hell kind of gun is that

>>182729995
a famas

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Got the framework for this pulse mechanic down, and added "empty symbols" for when you don't hit a monster with the fireball.

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Don't really have much to show off, since I've just been working on the basics right now

>Level Editor w/save & loading
>Tracelog for debugging info
>Fancy text
>Key Controller (Not visible)

I want to make a topdown, but this stuff would be applicable with just about anything else. I'm currently expanding upon the editor

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>>182729653
Be a man and do this one.

>>182730227
That's a one juicy looking slime there.

>>182730307
But we finally got DB Fighter Z, though it's still no budokai 4

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>everything works just as you planned except 1 tiny thing
>put it in the backlog, whatever
>fast forward a week
>backlog is done
>only that tiny issue remains
>try fixing it again
>defies all logic and questions your sanity
>solution seems deceptively easy but this tiny bug doesn't give a fuck
>bug has become sentient and does not want you to succeed

i give up

>>182730371
I don't like the traditional 2D fighter movement. It's Dragon Ball; why do they stay on the ground so much? The airborne free movement in Supersonic Warriors feels awesome.

>>182730941
Congratulate the bug on it's victory, ascend it into being a feature of the game.

>>182730997
Because it makes it more of a competitive fighting game that people will play, I like xenoverse and tenkaichi well enough, but I'd much rather play a true fighting game like Budokai 3 over them.

Supersonic looks solid though, but people love their traditional fighters

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>>182730321
Only the juiciest

>>182729578
Your game looks cool af. Making something similar and your progress really keeps me motivated in making it.

>>182730997
>why do they stay on the ground so much?

Not that guy, but I would imagine that its because fighter audience is so niche and resistant to change these days that you can't afford to do anything too different in case the hardcore segment doesn't like it.

>>182731826
Makes me happy to hear that.
This thread motivates me as well as listening to music from various metroidvania games. Gets me in the mood and keeps me going with adding something each day.

>>182732837
What engine are you using?

>>182733245
Not them but they said fusion 2.5 earlier in the thread

>>182733401
Ah damn, never used it. It looked like something akin to Game Maker, so I already started writing up something simple to handle it. A basic enemy like that takes only a few minutes to write.

Do you guys ever spend hours fiddling with useless stuff? Sometimes one little thing isn't quite right, so I'll very inefficiently meddle with it until I'm satisfied.

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Why are people so surprised about Monolith failing? I took a look at the trailer and it said everything. The game just seems to be an omnidirectional 2d shooter, there's nothing really interesting about it except possibly exploring the ships/shot types. I'm not trying to rag on the game or stir things up, but it really just should have been obvious before it made it to alpha that it was going to look/be like something you would play for maybe 10 minutes and then put down forever. No amount of graphics can really help that, honestly. I feel kind of bad, because a lot of love and care clearly went into it, but it also should have been obvious from the get-go that it wasn't gonna make it.

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>>182733990
>ADGD:
>something you would play for maybe 10 minutes and then put down forever

is this 2017 AGDG's new official motto

>>182732837
I loved castlevania so right now my game is basically a 1:1 clone, I feel kinda bad making a "metroidvania" game when I've never even played any metroid games.

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Daily reminder that invisible little hacks is the way of the yesdev

>>182733990
>I don't like the genre
cool post

>>182734340
>However, if we some of the some of the sprites on this castle

>>182734340
I don't understand what's the hack?

>>182733990
>failure
>not gonna make it
>it's one steam
>modest sales
>it got updated
>if it doesn't sell millions, it's a failure, because we here at AGDG are actually AAA tier devs.
What he mean by this

Stupid amphibious messenger

>announce that Social Interaction Trainer is going to be removed from Steam
>get around the same amount of sales (at full price) as one of the summer sale days
i should remove my games from steam more often.

>>182735167
why are you removing it?

>>182735407
https://twitter.com/googumproduce/status/878306636464402432

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>>182735652
>jewgem thinks he's in the wrong here

>>182735167
>get around the same amount of sales (at full price) as one of the summer sale days
I'm not sure how you're quantifying this when your games ship 0 copies regardless of sales.

>>182735652
just shill your patreon on the websites they allowed you massive kike.

>>182736028
>>182735891
>STOP NOT SELLING ON STEAM!
>YOU'RE A JEW!
gabe pls.

>>182735167
You get the same amount of sales as any summer sale everyday googem, as in 0.

>>182736138
Keep begging.

>>182735652
>thinking you can pressure steam into compliance
Pretty sure even gogem isn't that delusional. He's likely trying to start another scandal for that sweet shot at youtube superstar hatedom.

>>182736138
I posed a solution to your problem you dumb faggot.

>this platform that's giving me money to host my content on it wont let me link to other places that people can directly give me money!
>rather than just linking other places to give me money on the websites they DID allow, I'm going to throw a massive tantrum!

>>182736263
>this platform that's giving me money
that's where you fucked up. none of these storefronts give you money, you give them money for the service of being a storefront. why are so many of yall up in a huff about me dropping a shitty storefront?

>>182736383
we aren't.

post progress everyone.

>>182736383
Nobody is in a huff, we're laughing at you for being a petulant faggot, chronic failure and hilarious drama queen.

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Since I was kind of bored yesterday I thought of making a second playable character, a mage. I think adding a different character to play as would add variety to the game, especially when it comes to the puzzle design.

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Made pretty good progress I guess, I've been working on the character creation system because that's basically the only thing I have ideas for right now. I basically just want to try and get some sort of playable prototype working. I'm experimenting with a dicepool character generation except you also use the dice to buy starting traits and stuff. You can spend more than the starting "Fortune Dice" but you get "Misfortune Dice" added on to your character when you do. I was thinking of experimenting with using these dice as a sort of simplistic karma system. The misfortune dice will randomly be spent during interactions to fuck you over as you go through the game and its going to operate based on thresholds.

>10 Misfortune Dice is deathly bad
>6-9 Misfortune Dice is impairing bad
>3-5 Misfortune Dice is bad
>1-2 Misfortune Dice is rather unfortunate

When bad things happen to you it will consume dice. 10 Dice is the threshold for activating bad endings. Doing quests and stuff gives you fortune dice and you can buy off misfortune dice with fortune dice, or you could spend them on more stats, traits etc. Fortune dice can also be consumed by good events that happen to you as well. You won't be able to find rare items without having spare fortune dice.

There are also negative traits that you can purchase that give you fortune dice. For example there could be a trait that lowers the deathly threshold from 10 to 9 and lowers the others accordingly as well. There could also be traits that allow you to gain rare items without spending fortune dice. All of this is purely hypothetical but it seems interesting enough to fuck with if I can ever get the consistency to actually stick with a project and not giving up. I have high hopes for this project because my expectations are basically zero. I'm just working on whatever the fuck I want and not worrying about making it presentable or fun because no one will play my game anyways because it will probably never get finished.

>>182736537
That hat doesn't really look right for a wizard and the robe feels like it could use a bit more detail or flare to bring it up to the standard of your warrior.
What is your game anyway? I don't recall seeing that character before.

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Anyone got experience with continuous delivery?

I want to automatically compile and deploy my shit on github. It needs to be able to produce Windows binaries (testing can be on Linux ones).
Project is open source, so free ones are fine. I'm a poorfag and can't afford a server.

>>182736715
>game ending decided by random
Well, it seems that you just won annual award for the most retarded game design.

>>182736715
Random misfortune that builds up seems like it could be a novel mechanic if you were making an rpg that revolved around doomed characters getting shit on by the universe, sort of like a game version of the 'A series of unfortunate events' series.

I want a royalties for that idea, by the way.

>>182736984
The idea interests me and that's enough. Games with true endings, middle ground endings, and bad endings are fine with me. I don't see how having the chance of getting a specific bad ending if you sit in the deathly misfortune threshold is bad design, especially when you can hypothetically instantly buy off a misfortune dice by taking a disadvantage trait.

>I'm coming up to a part where the grand wizard could notice I'm a demon in disguise at the kings dinner party which is a bad ending
>Take the "Lecherous" Disadvantage, 10% chance to contract a sexual disease each time you stay at an Inn of "Commoner" quality rating.

Before you say
>YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME BEFORE TO KNOW THAT'S COMING

You could have a trait that gives you spidey sense. "You feel the bone cold dice of death rattling in your brain" as a pop-up when you reach a checkpoint.

>>182724054
Hey, seems like I missed your post. I'm definitely open to adding some more background layers, though I'm not sure whether to make them pixely or realistic looking.

>He doesn't focus on music aka the most important part of gamedev
You don't do that anon, do you ? You are working on your music right ?
After all music is what makes or breaks a game. Your coding, gameplay can be shit but if your music is on point people will like it.

>>182737530
Toby plz go

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>>182721841
Thanks for your kind reply. The arms are short yes but for me it somehow feels right when they have this size.
And the reason why I used blackoutline is to keep the number of colors small. Avoiding using pure black is something I actually heard twice about but I still missed it.
And animating the whole body seems really difficult. I want to start small. Maybe I should animate an easier object. Again thanks.

>>182737530
Unlike artists, decent musicians are relatively cheap to buy.

>>182737652
No idea how I fucked this up. It was meant for >>182700748

>>182737530
I'm not even having audio at all in my game.

>>182737764
>buying music
anon I..
It's like getting an architect to design YOUR house
How would the musician even understand and comprehend the amount of emotions your game is supposed to convey through the music ? Only you know that.

>>182738026
>It's like getting an architect to design YOUR house
So... completely logical?

>>182738026
>amount of emotions
if emotions come in quantities why cant you just buy a few bushels of emotions and then use what you need?

>>182738150
No, retarded, and useless.

>>182737530
I literally don't even know how you make music with a computer and I don't have any instruments and I also don't know how to play any instruments. When I've thought of making a soundtrack I was thinking of just using voice recordings to record sounds and using those to make music, not like words, just vocal sound effects including guitar sounds etc. I do want vocals in my music though.

I don't know why but I have this unquenchable desire to have boss music that's just me blabbing improvised verses about the boss fight for a solid 20-30 minutes to some sort of really long synthesized song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za-TkdK-Ud4

Old newground video style music.

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PROGRESS:
> made a new spider enemy
just a scrub that shoots at you

gonna adapt the spider body into about 3 different enemy types cause the initial animation is the shit that
takes time

GAME: http://store.steampowered.com/app/337290/Still_Not_Dead/

>>182738363
Genuinely disturbing animation for the spider

>tfw figure something out that you know everyone else will want to know because they are all struggling with a related issue or the same issue
>not going to tell anyone
mwahahaha
devilish

>>182738390
happy to hear that!

>>182738263
buy(or pirate) FL studio, or download LMMS.It's literally that easy. It basically does stuff for you.
You'd be making soundcloud tier "beats" nigger music in one day and then you can progress from there. There are literally thousands of quality VSTs and samples recorded from millions worth real instruments.
Something sounds really good music in your head ? You just need to click shit until it sounds goood like the tune in your head. Literally that simple.
Comparing it to art, if you can think of good looking awesome characters and armours and stuff, you have a software that automatically draws what you are thinking of , you just need to click.

>>182735891
Did gogem seriously make that tweet? kek what a loser

>>182738363
Is that a spider with a cross jammed into it? I like it.

>>182735167
Stop trying to convince everyone you're successful, asshole. It's really pathetic.

>>182738363
>roguelike
>not turn-based, not grid-based
This is why we can't have nice things

How do you find an art style that makes creating assets quick? I can't art for shit.

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>>182735167
This is extremely childish, posting e-mails on your twitter like anyone will care. E-mail in question for those who don't want to open your twatter.

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>>182738594
yes. yes it is. im gonna use those legs to make a walking totem and a coffin for a couple other enemy types. glad you dig :)

STILL NOT DEAD now has almost 100 players, and a couple people ive emailed (prob sent 300+ emails so far) have made videos on it, this being my favorite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpDOlmDMcL8

One person has over 9 hours, and seems to understand a lot of the deeper mechanics in the game which is pretty awesome and kind of what im hoping for as the game grows. Focus now is making the levels more interesting and adding more enemies

>>182738741
low res pixel art, small color pallet, blocky or geometric shapes

>>182738764
>so childish
>no one cares
>look at this everybody
tsundere is the shittiest archetype

>>182738764
>planned release date is the 14th MAKE YOUR DECISION
I fucking despise gogem.

>>182738521
This guy knows what's up

>>182738805
Is 48x48 for the player character low res?

>>182738521
>There are literally thousands of quality VSTs and samples recorded from millions worth real instruments.

Yeah but that doesn't sound nearly as fun. I was thinking that if I recorded all the sound effects with my voice I could do some sort of wizard magic thematically to tie and aesthetic of storytelling together. I was also thinking about doing "sims"/"parappa the rapper"/"animal crossing" style babble dialogue for all the dialogue in the game that tries to convey the dialogue/characters through only voice fluctuations/pitch/speech mannerisms. I'm kind of a retarded ideaguy faggot that doesn't even have a game yet though.

At the very least I enjoy babbling to myself in the freezer at work while I stock beer trying out different voices.

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>>182738741
personally i use billboards and a single animation for enemies (cause theyre always moving/facing the player) - i dont have death animations. for weapons, the pickup icon/HUD icon/actual graphics are all the same sprite.

i keep my enemies to about 3-4 frames and only use 2/3 colors for designs. one for the base body, the next for details like eyes/teeth

if i make a gun or enemy, i think think how i can stretch that animation into 3/4 other enemy types: ie - just copy/paste bits from other enemy sprites to combine a couple assets into another 10... also helps world cohesion desu

>>182738840
Care enough to guffaw at you for posting it, don't care enough to give one shit about steam rightfully enforcing rules on you.

Stop acting like you're some born outlaw beyond the rules you're not even a real australian you fucking ex-pat dropout burgercuck

>>182738924
>RULES
haha wow, it's a companies made up rules to benefit itself.
you're the cuckold here.

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At certain resolutions, this little GUI overlap on the bottom-left can happen. Is that fine or should the overlapping box slide out as the other one slides in?

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>>182738764
>had to get the last word
>still made it a passive aggressive bitchy question implying more attention was warranted to him
How desperate for attention is gogem? He's Amber Coal tier.

>>182739058
>made up rules
And when you're an adult you can make your own rules too!
Fucking spastic 32 year old nutjob.

>>182739058
in a world without rules you'd be gone a decade ago gogem, don't pretend like the rules are holding you back specifically.

>>182738764
>hey, sorry this update breaks our terms of service, fix it and we'll be A-OK. Maybe you could do this instead? It's practically the same thing.
>F-FUCK YOU IM NOT REMOVING IT THAT'S FUCKING BULLSHIT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO MILK PEOPLE DRY
>EITHER UPDATE MY FUCKING GAME OR I'LL THROW A MASSIVE TANTRUM AND REMOVE FUCKING EVERYTHING
>well uh, sorry you feel that way, but it's one of the only rules we have. Everybody else on our platform is okay with that, and knows about it, because we aren't keeping it secret or anything. if you change your mind you're free to come back! Good luck man!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

how to be a petty person 101

>>182738903
Literally record your voice and alter it with filters using audacity. All you need is a decent mic and audacity, a free 15mb software.

>>182739245
>>182739292
Quit giving the fool attention, he thrives on it. He's a lost cause.

>>182739164
>last word
but thats an actual literal request for giving owners of my other games itchio keys.
ive poked at them twice since then to try and get them to respond, they take for fucking ever.
i wouldnt have to ask any of these things on itchio, itchio actually has all of this shit (giving out keys, deleting games) automated and not requiring approval.
steam is the shittiest service.

>>182739102
As long as the overlayed GUI elements aren't necessarily relevant to the current screen it's fine to leave it as is.

Unless you're worried about triggering somebody's OCD, in which case feel free to add that little bit of polish.

>>182739058
Get the fuck off steam then. No one is forcing you to stay there. No one forced to to upload to a distribution channel with a defined terms of service that you violated. Posting this shit is literally pointless.

>either steam changes their mind and you stay (extremely unlikely)
>or you leave steam
(idk or care)
>or you change your mind and stay on steam

Regardless of any of those decisions its just adults coming to some sort of agreement or decision making. There isn't any injustice being done here or anything sharing the emails is literally fucking retarded.

I like how in 99.9% of disputes the company is almost always completely in the right. Anti-Capitalists are literally fucking subhuman.

>WAHHH I CANT MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS AND I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM

>>182739326
You fixate on everything except making games that are worth playing.

All this fuss over a meme game that hardly got any sales when you should be focusing on your next game. You're kind of a wet noodle gamedev aren't ya?

Hey guys, what's a good number of Steam followers for a game to have before launch? Mine barely has 100 atm, should I do some retarded shit to get attention so I can avoid the inevitable flop?

>>182739450
>Get the fuck off steam then.
im trying.
basically nothing is automated.

>>182739450
They're in the right to do it, but it goes against their projected image.

>>182739450
>Regardless of any of those decisions its just adults coming to some sort of agreement or decision making. There isn't any injustice being done here or anything sharing the emails is literally fucking retarded.
It's a really stark illustration of just how hungry for attention and childish this guy is. He's in his 30s and treats every miniscule transaction online as being monumental or newsworthy.

He also likes to talk like a businessman when he's broke as shit for someone who has been working in a technical/software field for this long.

He's kind of insane.

>>182739453
>All this fuss over a meme game that hardly got any sales
actually got zero sales on steam because it's not being released on steam, pay attention brainlet.

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>>182739481
forgot to mention, this is my game

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I thought this would be fun to show

>>182739569
No, cunt, you keep acting like you're a "revenue stream" for steam because SIT sold a few copies, you sound delusional AF to everyone including the poor working stiffs who have to read your hilarious e-mails.

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>>182739494
>gogem will be gone from steam soon

>>182739683
They're not going to let him remove the games, they want to watch him sperg out like this. It's fun for everyone involved.

He actually has no right to take his game down, it belongs to Steam now.

>>182739665
youre the delusional one if you think steam arent violently defensive of their 30% income stream from everything.
have they finally given up on the card trading market yet? the thing that was incentivizing zero-effort products? its not like they didnt know it was toxic they just cant let go of the 30% because 30% on a hundred pennies is just as good as 30% on a dollar.
if its selling they want to keep it, if it could sell in future they want to keep it, there is zero downside and thus infinite upsides.

>>182739980
Let them make money with your game then, what does it matter to you, you little slut? You see any other retailers lined up looking to trick out your shitty little Microsoft Visual Basic ""games""? Little fuckin' ho, keep quiet and do what you're told. Steam will remove your loose ass busted ass shovelware app when it feels like it.

>>182740060
>Let them make money with your game then
no.

>>182740120
Bitch did you just talk back?

>>182731689
>>182731849
I'm sure you're right but it was rhetorical.

Little fuckin' ho

>>182740159
dont step on snek.

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>>182740120

>>182740159
>>182740237
Does that make Googs a THOT?

>gogem always be like "I DON"T NEED NO STEAM NUH UHHH"
Bitch you been trippin' about steam for the past 2 years you ain't leavin' steam, bitch. Stupid lil ho

>>182740278
Even thots can get paid.

wow nice job making games guys

Fuckin dumb bitch googs thinkin he is be anythang without steam, fuckin dumb ass hoe.

Fuckin dirty hood rat skank, sleepin in rags and fleas, fuckin crack lipped dick toilet

>>182740278
Gogem always be like
>STEAM NEED ME FOR DEY MONEY
that's right little trick ass ho you are nothing but a product now get your ass out there and quit yer bitchin, trick

>>182740528
I made good proggy today
Do what I want

>b-b-but muh revenue streams
>steam wants my $38 a year

no faggot they just can't be bothered to deal with you autistic screeching for how little money you're worth. It costs more to pay the guy to email you than you make them in 20 years.

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Finished last spot before working on interface and programming, for now.

>>182740701
i've made them to pay that indian fiverr employee for a decade.

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>>182739414
Really don't want to trigger anybody, fixed it.

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Get back on the corna stupid dumb hoe, YOU AINT OWN SHIT.

He made u pretty, you wuz a smelly rat tramp bitch before and now you just a dumb hoe, but at least you a hoe. You belong on the corner, dumb stupid hoe.

>>182740528
>was going to sleep
>too busy shitposting now

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is if(x > 0) faster than if(x>=1)

>>182741654
No.

>>182741654
>branching
You may as well use Ruby on Rails

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POSTING PROGRESS

Cell behavioral statemachine works. On top: C code to understand easier what I'm doing in asm, in the /**/ comment: assembly code, top down design vision, on the bottom: manually built "machine code" for the cells.

The cell basically "looks" for a stone and start going in its direction if it "smells" one else the cell does not move.

>>182741654
No, it's only slower on the compiler by a fraction of a fraction of a billionth of a second.

>>182741654
How do you come up with questions of that level of retardation? Is it skill or some mind technique?

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>>182741775
>Is it slower?
>No, it's slower.

>>182741903
the question was "is it faster"

>>182741773
>tfw too stupid to make a working tile movement/map system in godot
>other anons are literally writing shit in assembly.

Never gonna make it to be frank familia.

>>182741976
>Is it faster?
>No, it's faster.

>>182741654
In assembly you only have less or equal to and greater or equal to. Greater and less comparisons are literally reversed operators with equal sign.

>>182741903
it's slower at compile time because it makes the compiler do a trivial optimization and thus lengthens the optimization phase

>>182742000
>Am I retard?
>Yes I am.

>>182741773
In which form are you actually writing this shit?
The push_back copypasta mess?

It would be much cleaner if you wrapped it in functions, like
>add_call(function, ...)
Then used the varargs to unwrap the args.

Then you could add function calls in a much more readable form:
>add_call(bop.reg, 1, 100)

That way you could also do some verification that the number of arguments is correct, by storing data about number of arguments per operator and messaging when it doesn't match the expected count.

If I kill myself halfway can I post the game and release it with a license so anyone can use it, modify, and sell it? Which license?

>>182742212
Nobody needs your shit game bro

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>>182742110
That is the whole point. The user will never see this inside of the opaque cell. She/he will just type:

name r[0] dist_invalid //renaming general purpose registers
name r[1] flang_scale
reg dist_invalid -1
j_e dist_invalid sens.stone.s1.dist nogo //comparing to cell sensory input
label go
reg flang_scale 100
mov sens.stone.s1.alpha go.alpha //moving sensory input direction angle to flangellium angle
jmp end
label nogo
reg flang_scale 0
label end
mov flang_scale go.scale

And I process the text input, validate everything, throw errors if she/he messed up. Would be nice to have a Notepad++ plugin or something to color the code properly.

>>182742212
>anybody can do anything they want with it including selling it

Why do you want a licence again

>>182742510
Would you spend days learning a codebase and then months expanding it without an explicit guarantee that you won't get sued?
>>182742212
MIT, Mozilla, I think pretty much any open source license except GPL would work.

>>182742510
Avoid legal trouble to them.

>>182742212
I'm partial to the Do What the Fuck You Want To Public License

http://www.wtfpl.net/about/

>>182742510
Having a clear license also lets people know that such an option is even available.

Most people would just automatically assume any given game (aside from linux free-as-in-libre garbage) is under a restrictive license.

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________________________________________________________GAME________________________________________________________________________________________________

>>182742391
>Games
>Need
heh

>>182743341
>>182743596
Thanks. Pretty explicit that last one.

>>182744292
>no thicc lolis.
Blunder of the decade.

>>182729995
Airsoft version of an FN-57

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>>182733990
wow...
monolit fucking BOMBED... i dont want to make discuss but... look... so many emotions in me... i need to make another post...
is indie game... over...
we not make it...

GAME DEVELOPMENT IS SIMPLE AND JOYOUS AND I LOVE IT 100% OF THE TIME

>>182744689
>not defining "making it" as "releasing a game you can be proud of and having fun in the process"
hahahahaha

An alien race makes contact with every single human simultaneously (think telepathy). They ask if (You) want to join their civilization, which is based in the rule of reason (think Stoicism, but without imposing dogmas or anything). You will be rewarded by joining them, but you won't be able to run for office or stuff like that.

Do you do it? Do you do it under special circumstances?

What if theonly alternative is fighting them, as they won't fuck off peacefully?

Asking for a friend's game.

>>182733990
Honestly, I agree.

I thought it'd do well merely for the graphics, not the gameplay. I couldn't judge the gameplay because I thought it just didn't appeal to me.I absolutely hate backtracing. The level art also all felt muddy and too similar. It didn't stand out to me. Just felt like you were in one big, endless cave of shit. Again, art was fine, gameplay 'worked' in that it was functional, just didn't stand out.

I would say selling 2k copies isn't bad, but the fact it took 5 years kinda ruins it.

>>182744771
i don't know anon. That doesn't sound like gameplay

>>182744945
>I absolutely hate backtracing.
you can literally just warp everywhere on the map screen and it's shown in the tutorial
i don't think you actually played it

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Not sure why I implemented decals on bullet hits right now as it's pretty useless but progress is progress.

>>182745071
It's the premise of the game. Just bear with me a second.

>>182745107
That's still backtracking.

How would you make things happen based on a set amount of time/frames in Unity?
So if you want something to last two seconds, how would you figure out how much time has passed?

>>182745201
coroutine

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On average 7% of FPS players are female. Overwatch's percentage of female players is much higher, at 15%. This got me thinking: are certain genres being less popular with women essentially down to aesthetics and cultural norms? For example the data gathered by Quantic Foundry shows that women generally find guns unappealing, preferring spells when it comes to weapons. Magic is heavily preferred over technology in general, fantasy over science fiction.

If you want to expand your audience maybe all you need is a proper theme, not a mechanical change.

>>182745201
you have a few options:

Invoke() which will call a function after a delay that you specify. Take care that multiple calls to Invoke will schedule multiple delayed calls

StartCoroutine with a WaitForSeconds() inside, which is more or less the same deal with Invoke, except it's a little cleaner

Record Time.time upon the moment you want something to happen in the future, and in your Update method, compare the current value of Time.time to the one you stored and if the difference is at least 2 (it's in seconds), then you can finally end whatever it is that you want to last for 2 seconds.

Do a Google search on them if you want to look into them more

>>182745331
I find it pretty surprising majority of women who play games with heroes, always pick female ones.

90% of female players playing LoL or Overwatch pick female supports only.

Why?

>>182745331
>women essentially down to aesthetics and cultural norms

no
theme has nothing to do with it

Overwatch a ton of female characters.
females like playing..female healing/support characters. thats basically it

>>182745469
Is that statistic from solo queue?

>>182745331
Overwatch has no magic.

>>182745514
>didn't look at the image at all

>>182745469
I don't know the reason but I remember reading some broad surveys done on this subject. Both girls and women really care about playing women, while men care significantly less.

>>182745514
I don't think that quite holds. DotA has a lot of female supports but relatively few women play it. Twice as many women play LoL.

>>182745469
>Why?

Because it's easy for them to talk on mic without directly impacting the core outlook of a match, and they get to virtually look cute while talking.

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Stuck thinking about narratives etc.

Cyberpunk style game, but I don't want to go the typical routes:

>corporations are bad, I'll save the day

>cybernetics/splicing is bad, ethics!, hero is between both sides, and top it all off by beating up an evil corporation using the strife to cause conflict/profit.

>dystopia, everything is shit, grey, bleak, fuck the corporations.

Don't want to make anything so preachy, I like cyberpunk for the aesthetic, and what it enables me to use for setting, characters, tech/weapons.

I have ideas for a rivalry between main character and someone, but I can't think of a storyline about this that at its core isn't just my rival is evil, I beat them, saved the day afterall.
Can't get my head out of everything is save the day, while my character has to go through some sort of "righteous" arc. Are they stronger by end of game? what goals did they accomplish?
I did some shit today, doesn't seem like a good enough hook.

>Monolith failed because there was no female waifus

Ironic, they could make a good game, but not sell it.

>>182745543
I don't think I've ever seen a female play DPS in OW.

>>182745552
Right, that's something that also jumped out to me. Here's what I figure: Overwatch has a very bright, cartoony aesthetic with plenty of characters that appeal to women. Strictly speaking it is still "science fiction" but like Star Wars the "science" is so soft that it might as well be fantasy. Not coincidentally Star War: The Old Republic is far more popular among women than other sci fi MMOs.

>>182745741
Based on voice chat?

>>182745712
Make a cyberpunk game where the corporations are good.

But the techno-church is evil.

>>182745835
How else would you determine it?
Statistics/surveys are always fucked/useless.

Do you need to use rigidbody in Unity for collision functions to work?
Trying to do shit with OnCollisionEnter but nothing's firing when my character collides with anything. What gives?

>>182745948
Yes

>>182736537
cute

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>>182745712
why not just - not have a story - ??

just have different characters, and shit happens, and you do stuff, but theres no MAIN NARRATIVE. In new "open world" games i always feel that the main narrative almost feels forced in now, a relic of old linear games, and the sidequests are just more interesting and immersive/open. So yeah, thats what id do. Character driven narrative, no big story..

i also love cyberpunk, that train is a great addition, nice work.

you hype for new blade runner?

>>182745970
That's annoying.
Is there any way to work with collisions without using RigidBody then? Or should I just make them all kinematic?

>>182746035
>Cyberpunk game without narrative

lmao

>>182745712
is it necessary that all cyberpunk games have this generic "indie" pixel art.

>>182746035
Wasn't too impressed by the trailers for the new one. Hoping the final result isn't a shitshow.

>>182746091
No

>>182745712
Try cyber without the punk.
Socialized high-tech where corporations can't say much.
Fight against gangs/rebels/protestors/infected/other country

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How would you guys go making a lock-on camera that isn't an aimbot ?
I'm thinking of either making it lag a little or just reserving it for melee weapons but these don't sound like real solutions, only ways to circumvent the problem.

How do I get marketing 101? Applied to vidya, obviously? I don't like social media very much, but for I will bite that bullet.

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https://my.mixtape.moe/uqjvde.webm

So I've retooled and nerfed the grapple a little, now begins the large task of overhauling the arm cannon weapon

>>182746149
I didn't really consider another country. Something Children of Men in terms of isolationist UK is the most stable, developed.
Other countries have tech but different, like orks in warhammer 40k.
You've given me a few things to think about, thanks anon!

>>182745195
Nigger all items disappear when you exit rooms, game's literally got no backtracking.

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perspective for the foreground
orthographic for the background seems to work well

>>182746086
well like he said, all those narratives are already done to death. and it has a narrative, its just character/world driven instead of a rigid developer-told story. hence, your choices can actually matter and you can kill off characters without having it effect a larger story.. so idunno i feel like it could be cool :/

at the very least it tries something new

>>182746394
What engine are you using for this again? It's certainly looking fun, the hitsparks and explosions are great

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>enter discord
>there's a girl
I thought this is patrician only board?
i am scared of female

>>182746506
unity3d
and thanks, gonna make it plenty juicy with the particle effects

>>182746050
>>182745970
Also do CharacterControllers generate collisions? Or only colliders/rigidbodies?
I'm rarely getting confirmed collisions at the moment.

>>182746683
I always thought there we're only men in 4chan (except for /cgl/ /soc/ and maybe /ck/); Consequences will never be the same.

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>>182746683
>>182747115
>Not knowing 4chan turns you into either a nazi or a transwoman

>>182746683
chill it's just Ghor's Grandma

>>182746394
BEANED

>>182746683
discord isn't just agdg.

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>try to edit Floodfill algorithm to fit my needs for 4 hours
>accidentally reinvent Breadth First
t-thanks

How do I motivate myself to finish something I know nobody but myself will ever play?

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>weekend
>have no work and finished house chores
>doesn't feel like devving

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>>182747631
What's up with this retarded line of thinking? What's the fucking point of finishing it then? Go find another hobby.

>>182747631
Other people liking/playing what you make shouldn't be your motivation. It should just be enjoyable to make.
If it isn't then maybe you shouldn't make games, at least ones by yourself.

>>182746219
It only locks on the camera, aim separately.

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Is GameMaker still the most recommended engine for 2D games? I've been away from gamedev for a while, was thinking of trying something other than GM.

>>182747928
No the best is LISP

>>182747631
>maek meincroft clan game
>lolis and shotas will beg their parents to buy them games
>profit

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Added the reticle to appear on the hookshotted enemy and other tweaks.

>>182747928
I used Construct 2 for a while.
It's the easiest engine I've used, but I don't know how constricting it can be.

>>182747928
if you don't already have gm:s1 or 2 it's not worth it
go for unity in that case
godot is an unproven meme that might evolve into something worth your time but first its most rabid supporters need to give it a fair shake and actually make games in it, proving its capability beyond random semi-impressive twitter gifs

>>182747928
Yes it is.

>>182747928
Love2D is perfectly fine for 2D games.

>>182748017
That's a cool as fuck mechanic.
Nice idea.

>>182747631
Inject your fetishes

>>182748017
Good to see you again man. That hookshot melee attack looks satisfying.

>>182748017
Wait, now I see that walk-animation triggering mid-air. Gotta fix that.

>>182748017
really good juice without transparency
nice

>>182733990
>something you would play for maybe 10 minutes and then put down forever
Sadly this.

His game is not bad, have good music and I like the art but I just pirate played it for about 15min and haven't played the game since.
It's probably just a niche game that will appeal to certain people but you guys are a bit harsh when you said it has failed.

It did good, not best, but still good.

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Trying to make a 3-D game with a friend, not sure exactly what were doing but were going with hand painted textures and its going to be some kind of fantasy rogue-like.

I'm just kind of farting out sculpts in blender, I'm new to 3-D. This thing is supposed to be a bow,

I'd just like an opinion from unbiased people.

An idea we had for bow weapons was getting different types of string to improve/alter your shots to do different things (like fire at different speeds, and that some arrow types would be better matched with some string types.

>>182749158
>3-D
You're just fishing for (You) anyone can tell that it's a bow so here's your (You) you little whore.

>>182749158
>no plan but making assets anyways
Sit your asses down and make a design document.

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I spent a lot of time on going from left to the right. Tell me it's at least a step in the right direction...

>>182749436
It's a step in the right direction in the sense that you went from left to right.

>>182749551
Nice

>>182744945
>>182749119
At least switch up your writing style anon.