/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General

First for quad mechs!

What is that quad that someone colored into a damn pony?

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>>182614290
Balius

kaylis

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who The Doacimator here

Did we time jump yet? What's the new meta?
Can I load up infinite ATMs and SLs on my Shitcrow and be the ultimate shitter?

SRM+SL was the only build I liked more than 12 SPL

Is the dragon ever worth it ? I like how it looks

Redpill me on next week's patch, boys
Is my 75t Mad Cat going to be dumpster fodder?

>>182620941
>clan
Pretty much.

>>182620941
No, you dolt. The whole reason the Madcat is good because it can take whatever the fuck it wants. You might need to switch to heavy lasers, or ATMs, but it'll be fine no matter what.

That said why the fuck do you care about running good mechs instead of whatever fun shitbuilds unless you're in a tier high enough that you'd be able to answer that yourself?

>>182621139
I don't have lots of money so I just want one good Mech to spam all day

Elementals and battle armor never ever.

What is best SRM to run on the 7SRM Cyclops? SRM4+Artemis?

>>182620941
Nah run it at 70 tons instead.

>official forums are just old grognards complaining about balance when they haven't been present on the leaderboards for the past 5 seasons

Where were you when Kit and Rancuck became a couple?

List konglings who are forever alone.

CAN SCAT RUN 6X HEVY MACHINE GUN + ATMS NEXT PATCH?

>>182621378
>>>/MWLL/

>>182621139
What kind of evil person would lie to someone like that?

None of the new clan weapons are worth using.

Madcat is fucking garbage and the whole it can take whatever it wants is a joke since the only viable heavy setup is dakka or goose pepsi, both of which the nygger does better.

>>182623267
>clan HMG's are 0.5 tons each, plus minimal ammo
>SHC can have one spare Missile slot with the machinegun array pods
>ATMs are 1.5/3.5/5/7 tons, plus ammo
Do the math.
Probably, but not great, and why the literal fuck would you run two weapon systems, which are incapable of operating within the same ranges.

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>>182622119
Haruko X Phililipe when?

>>182621443
try this out:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=435&l=bf066b0c43c2c17984ef8287801699d7e7582625

>>182620586
Not yet.
ATMs were a gimicky piece shit in the pts, worse than lurms even, with minimal range and a playstyle that encourages to get suicidaly close to minimal range for proper damage.
In turn if you got to far out ATMs started to do trash damage.
Low tube count also; fodder for ams.
Unless ATMs are improved upon relase I would continue to use srms, but with the new micro lasers.
I tested 4x asrm6 + 6x micro pulse shitcrow with success.

>>182621443
6x asrm6 + 1 asrm4 in the ct

>>182623395
I didn't play the PTS but I'd heard ATM's were alright. But really though, the second paragraph was there for a reason. Lower tiers are a magical place, guided missiles and shitty lasers legit work better down there than pinpoint damage. And even if you disagree, you really just can run whatever shitbuilds. Also, not running pepsigoose as well as a nigger doesn't mean you can't run it at all.

>>182622119
Haruko

>>182623678
ATMs and heavy lasers are somehow worse in everyway except damage per ton than standard lasers.

The builds for clans are hardly going to change.

The good clan mechs though are completely different. Engine desync fucked all the fast clan heavies over 65 tons.

Recommending someone a timberwolf is like telling them to play a dragon now.

>>182623395
More or less this.
Only fucking turret wolf build that remains fun to me in any shape or form, is 2x uac10 + 5x ersl.
If I would want to laservomit, i'd pick bringer or ebin.
If I would want to goosepepsi or dakka, I'd pick niggyr.
If I would want to brawl or lurm, I'd pick mad doge or onion IIc.
Sad really, the quad srm6 and six small pulse timberwolf was so much fun.
Now the spl is dead and the wolf is so immobile that it sucks at brawling.

>>182624367
>timberwolfs = dragons
Come the fuck on nigga

I already have a Tree Dog, Ebon Jag, Scat and three Shitcrows so it's not like I can escape it.

maxDPS MGun Scat was the most fun I ever had despite it being worse than the Splatcrow/Pulsecrow in almost every way.

>>182624487
Your right the dragon is going to be much better on tuesday. Sorry sempai my mistake.

>>182624367
>Recommending someone a timberwolf is like telling them to play a dragon now.

Statements like this are how you can tell someone is a shitter

>>182624538
>despite it being worse than the Splatcrow/Pulsecrow in almost every way
Being able to instantly finish off anybody with stripped armour was kinda neat.

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>>182612305
Is this how I do it?

>>182624642
It's so great! But unlike the Shitcrow you can't afford to lose either side even a little bit, losing all 6 MGs or both SRMs + the laser is a death sentence; a 6SL + SRM Shitcrow or 3x SRM + 1SL Shitcrow is crippled but still viable.

how quick does smurfy usually update after a major patch?
i want to plan shitmechs

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>>182624612
I just hate to see people suffer through shitmechs that people still think are good because they used to be meta a year ago.

Times change and pgi is intent on making sure this is an IS game.

How else can they balance out the retards that lose in faction warfare events?

>>182624487
The plural of wolves is wolves

>>182625242
I'm aware.

Wait

Which of the new weapons ARE good? Can I soup up my NCIX Cent with a light engine, Rocket Launchers/MRMs and Rotary ACs and shit?

>>182624842
I kind of feel like the memegun scat is a powerdown and wait till the end of the game and face fuck everyone with your megaguns.

I kind of think maybe using a PPC and sniping until the brawl happens might be the best way to play it.

Then you can rip through people that get close.

Will clan MPLs remain minimally viable in the Civil War?

>>182625382
>LFE
Good if your using a standard before. Its a free 30-25 engine rating increase, thats not needed because engine desync.

>MRMs
Probably better on slower missile brawlers unless you can close the game real fast then srms are better.

>RACs
Unless they seriously change it on the release version its going to be shit.

>Rocket Launchers
Pretty decent actually if you have spare tonnage. But its probably not worth losing heatsinks over.

UAC10 and UAC20 are both pretty gud for IS.

HMGs are also cool for that lightweight ballistic option.

Overall the new ppcs are very good to mildly bad depending on which you use.

It's going to be great day for the INNER SPHERE and a sad day for the Clans.

>>182625791
Probably the best clan laser right now and forever for what it does.

It somehow didn't get wrecked like the SPL did and ghost heat means you can use a decent amount of them.

Hopefully we can direct pgi's attention to 80 damage for 8 tons heavy medium lasers and they will leave the MPLs alone.

Why are there 2 threads?

>>182625820
>then vs than

Will Rancor accept the pegging, or flee in terror? Find out on the next episode of MWOG.

>>182625382
People really don't like the RAC/5 from what I read around here, but I tried it while the PTS was still up and they felt fine. It's a higher DPS than a UAC/5, but the RAC/5 doesn't have pinpoint accuracy like the UAC/5 which can mean you'll be doing less if you miss shots. The RAC/5 also runs a bit cooler than the UAC/5, which is great, especially with stealth armor. On the Cent though you're probably still better off with a different ballistic since you'd only be able to take one RAC/5 in the arm.

Light engines are great, rocket launchers do solid damage but are obviously gonna be a meme due to the one-shot nature of them, and MRMs are fine but from my testing felt a little too hot and they're not as accurate as you'd like them to be either.

>>182626473
Some retard started the new general 50 posts early.

>>182626817
>rocket launchers do solid damage but are obviously gonna be a meme due to the one-shot nature of them
?
you can't reload them?

>>182626839
Must have been A murican

So I have a wlf-2 with dual med pulse and 4 meds and I'm loving it. It's a bit slow for a light but other than that it's nice. That being said, what would be a good fast med mech? Was thinking the assassin.

Will Cougar be a decent alternative to Cheetah/Jenner?

i regret buying the timber wolf

everyone said it was worth getting but i never liked it more than my shitcrow and ebinjag, it never did anything better than them or the niggyr even 6 months ago

>>182627161
Hell no. It's a slow piece of shit and is more like a medium without the survivability.

>>182627272
why can't more mechs be fast and strong like the stormcrow? 110kph with good weapons isnt that much to ask for

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Robots.

>>182627907
goto bed

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>>182628210

Impossible.

>>182628924
incomprehensible!

>>182627462
pay to overperform

>>182626817
Since MRMs are going to track the point of aim now while launching they should be good complementary weapons to RACs. Assuming RACs are better in the release build of course. Incidentally LRMs would be fine with RACs because you have to stare at the enemy anyway and a tracking weapon will help with hitting the enemy even if you are busy leading your target with the shell streams.

>clans still cant scout with the stormcuck
kek

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A wild Robinsage was spotted.

>>182632357
wrong thread idiot

>>182632470

You dare?

https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/254529-need-clarification-on-rule-changes/

Truly the highest skilled of all e-sports tournaments.

>>182632731
do people even play that mode

>>182632326
why do old men love IS so much??

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While I hope they do something to make ATMs worth taking, I don't expect it. It was the one piece of upgraded Clan tech I was looking forward to and it's dead before release. SRMs are for SHOTGUN. Streak SRMs are for BUG KILLER. ATMs are (at least in TT) for beating up nerds on the way before you punch them in the face. Yes, it's supposed to have a minimum range, but the whole point was that they were meant to hit like SRMs at a longer distance. If I wanted to plink someone for 1 damage per missile at max range (and watch most of my shots get immediately shot down by AMS), I'd just use an LRM. At least C-LRMs don't have a hard minimum range.

I was also looking forward to the Cougar but it's just so disappointing. It's even slower in game than in tabletop, and while it has ample weapon space, it simply doesn't have the speed or the armor to make it count. With how most quick-play matches go it'll probably just get chewed up before it can put its weapons to good use. The only one I'd consider taking at the moment would be the H for its jump jets and ECM, and even then I'm not too sure. I'll probably get one anyway because I'm a Falcon and it's cute af pic unrelated but wanted

>>182633968
>I was also looking forward to the Cougar but it's just so disappointing.
Why would you be looking forward to a 35 ton Heavy?

Why do 35t Heavies exist? Every mech lighter than 55/95kph is complete horse shit 9 times out of 10
it shouldn't be that way, they deserve to be at least a little faster

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>>182634103
>>182634241
Because I've used the Cougar before outside of MWO and enjoyed it, that's why. But as we all know, MWO is an incredibly well balanced game that takes all mechs into account. Without quirks, I'm aware the Cougar is going to be shit, and even then it's still going to need help with plenty of skill tree points too. However, as I said, I'll still probably end up getting it anyway. Why? Because I like the damn thing.

>>182634687
>MWO is an incredibly well balanced game that takes all mechs into account
Given the practically infinite amount of possibilities, it's not exactly feasible to perfectly balance a game like this.

I think their biggest mistake was including more than one variant of each mech. If they all just had one, a lot of the mechs that are now obsolete would actually have a use because there wouldn't be a variant of a better mech to replace them.

>>182635110
The variant set up does have its drawbacks, but unfortunately it's tied to it's start with purely IS mechs, the even more grindy 'mastery' system, as well as PGI's desire to maximize dosh. Why get only one mech that you can customize endlessly when you can force the user to buy or grind three of the same mech in order to not only make it viable, but to also have any sense of variety with it. It was slightly relieved with the introduction of omnimech pod-swapping (though if you have any worthwhile quirks fuck you for trying to draw outside the lines), but there's still constraint on just about every mech. There's also tons of small 'balance' things that deviate from the tabletop system and canon that add up here and there, more often than not to a mech's disadvantage.

>when you find that multiple Clan mechs run slower than they do in canon
>the Cougar needs full points in Speed Tweak just to get to the speed it is supposed, let alone any faster

PGI knew from the beginning they'd be introducing new IS tech at some point. They knew they'd have to add Clan tech eventually, but they knew they could make IS stronk not too long after. Clan tech didn't need nerfs if IS gear was going to get boosts anyway.

>>182639618
PGI didn't know shit

>>182637352
>muh fairness
all IS dogs must be wiped out

>>182640000
Quads confirm, delete IS

>>182639618

PGI were ready to ditch the shit and flee into space, my man.

>>182640632
That was a fun night, can't find my Pig Citizen relics but I remember it well.

>do 1200 damage
>team should have this
>last remaining teammates are LRM roughneck with no ammo and a kit fox with a single uac2

ok

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>mfw I have absolutely nothing to look foward to on tuesday except heavy meme guns
>ass2mouth missiles thoroughly useless except in extreme circumstances that no way reflect the game enviroment outside training grounds
>heavy lasers have minimal use on energy starved hardpoint mechs but their prohibitive heat and burn times mean its probably better to use LPL or ERMeds anyway
>meanwhile IS shitters get upgraded versions of clan weapons and retain all their retarded durability quirks

Should I just uninstall the game? I can't take all the goldman shitters that actually try to justify the state that atms and heavy lasers are in before they are even implemented in the game.

>>182641065
>damage numbers padding with airstrikes

>>182641508
>baww baww muh power creep pgi pls ;((((((
t. didn't play when clans released

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>>182641573
if you can't break 4 digits without red smoke you are officially shit

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Пoклoнитьcя мнe ))))))

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>>182641578
I'm not defending the clans when they were released that shit was retarded.

Of course the goal wasn't to have a fun game but get people to spend 200+ dollars on clan robots and maybe even 500$ on gold painted versions.

But that doesn't mean clans have to eternally pay the price by having their stuff suck ass forever.

What is it going to be like when Jihad stuff hits and IS really is the superior faction with XXL engines and all the other retarded weapons they get. Not to mention new armor types, light gyros and all kinds of shit.

Who am I kidding this game won't last that long.

>>182643291
maybe you should learn to play shitter
clans still have the best mechs in every category, after the update IS will be stronger brawlers and that's it and if you're not fine with that then kys

>>182643291
bitch stop crying

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memeguns are fun

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>>182647343
A King Crab... with only 6 machine guns. That's gold, Jerry, gold!

>>182647343
How come you dont even have tons of ammo?

>>182647343
Ha epic joke build

Memes!

>>182647343
Are they introducing any Mechs with more than 6/7 Ballistic slots next patch? I feel like the weapons are okay but there aren't enough platforms that can afford to run it.

>>182647343
>no tag lasers

Quirks are stupid.

Connor-kun is so cool lol

>>182650723
and good with his hands

>>182650723
fuck off with your shit memes kakos

>>182633968
>Yes, it's supposed to have a minimum range
No it isn't you retard. The whole point of the weapon is having access to the high explosive ammo with no minimum range.

Ass To Mouth missiles are doa, and nigger shitteroids are still going to complain about them being op because the only thing involuntary tier 5's know how to do is standing still out in the open in stock Atlases.

>>182652265
Connor-kun is so cool lol

>>182652786
get owned lmao clancuck

where can i find mrm ghost heat caps?

games?

>>182654681
neg

Is there ammo explosions from critical hits in MWO?

>>182656827
yes. gauss ammo doesn't blow up tho but weapon does.

>>182656827
No. Feel free to put your ammo in your arms.

>>182656827
10% chance of ammo exploding when it has been crit

>>182649546
Annihilator.

>>182658772
Annihilator has at most 6 Ballistic hardpoints.

Dire Wolf has the most in the game, 8.

>>182659563
I didn't say it had the most. He asked if there was one that had 6-7 coming up, and the Anni does.

>no assault mech with 14 ballistic hardpoints
Bane when

>>182659830
ooh look whos smart hhuh

>>182659974
you're being silly

>>182660092
I AM SILLY

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hmm

>>182660536
:(

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so why exactly is the annihilator bigger?

>>182661480
>peeks out over cover
>gets sniped in the face
Who designed this mech?

>>182661480
Noticeably leaner front profile. Though taller.

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lol

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>>182661710

>>182661480
>How does scaling based on volume work?

Anni is pretty appropriate next to the Atlas especially if you look at the front.

>>182661480
>>182661589

+50 cockpit armour kwerk

>>182662268
>How does scaling based on volume work?
works like shit

Whispers-kun is so cool lol

>>182661480
sadly the Anni is going to be a gigantic pile of trash

>>182662497
Dire Wolf tier gigantic pile of situational trash you mean

>>182662760
just plain old trash you mean

>>182662824
Probably, I hardly ever pilot clan mechs

>>182662497
>what's up with all the patchnotes Chris, do you have a PTS or something?
>no Paul, I don't.
>ever heard of Ghost Heat and the RACs? Their hit album The Civil War Grabdeal is all about the joys of conforming to retarded game mechanics
>HEY PAUL TRY BOATING RACS ON AN ANNIHILATOR NOW YOU STUPID BASTARD

>>182612305
>http://battletechgame.com/
When the fuck is this shit coming out?

>>182663080
like tomorrow

>>182663483
Awright~

>>182663531
lmao just kidding

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>>182663615

>>182663725
sorry it does actually come out tomorrow I was just playing with you

Shaix-kun is so cool lol

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nice

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>>182665296
What?

>>182665296
nice airstrikes*

>>182665296
wew kakos pretty weak tbqh

Harabec-kun is so cool lol

Who still MechCommander here?

>>182667927
aff

why do other gonk shitters post here, when we all know that kakos-san is the only relevant player in their shitheap

kakos is the meanest turd in the shitheap, you heard it here first

>>182661710
Why so serious?

How social do you have to be to play with KONG? I just want to blow up shitter with above-average players.

>with above-average players
>not double digit players

>>182670992
kong is below average tho

>>182670992
Harabec just did double digits so you need to do triples

Why Shaix so good?

How other gonklets (except Whispers) can even compete?

>>182670992
>with above-average players
tough luck

>>182671126
>>182671089
At least the people here know about meta stuff and like Mechs, you don't purposely do terrible. Just spectating randoms in pugs makes me feel Kong is way better than the average player.

And pre-mades always steamroll enemies, so there's that. I want C-bills, ranks and memes.

>>182671343
Tripple what?

>>182671380
Join clan wolf international then, kong sucks dong.

>>182671350
By quadruple stacking red smoke.

>>182671512
>this jelly

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>he still doesn't stack red smoke
>he still misses with his red smoke

KONG

SUCK

DONG

>>182671759
but it's true

>>182671380
triple digit damage duh

>>182671497
>Join clan wolf international then
i'm booting up the game now. i don't know how good i have to be to join them, i'm the one asking a bunch of questions about builds and mechs here lately. still don't know the meta but i'm not as terrible as most pugs i spectate.

>>182672164
What makes you think you're good enough for mighty Kong then?

>>182672164
here how you meta quick rundown by petyr
>1 buy clan mech
>2 clan med pulse
>3 boom kill

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what did he mean by this >>182672246


>>182672136
I do like 400-600 per match usually

>buy clan mech

why are you tricking new players into the shit faction

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>>182672483

>>182672483
t. shitter

>>182672475
Are you dissing Kong now cocksucker?

>>182672773
no, i simply meant gonk has worse stats than CWI

very good W/L ratio tho

>>182672718
t. lurmer

>>182672965
Are you suking Kong dong now cocksucker?

>>182673013
>use lrms
>can't get kills
At least I stay alive longer and support my team I guess.

>>182673214
Are you actually supporting them though? Most LRM players I see are mouthbreathers

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Why do people get upset when they get legged?

>>182673706
I target as soon as they pop up on my screen, and fire as soon as the target is locked and there's nothing blocking my lurms. I spot and target for my team (I only use lurms in my Jenner-IIC).

>>182672475
It's different in group queue
>>182674079
>lrm light

>>182674215
lrm20 jenner with jump jets +9t of ammo :^)

>>182674467
Awful. You should really just get a medium.

>>182673717
Because they can't abuse broken game mechanics by swinging their mice around like wiimotes and call it "skill."

Kanajashi-kun is so cool lol

>>182673717
because it proves that skipping leg and back day is never a good idea which is contradictory to their opinion

>lots of back armor

this is my favourite meme

>>182661480
>golem get ye gone

>>182676106
Some fatties get paranoid after being stabbed in the kidneys one too many times by lights.
>it's fucking delicious when I do it though, all those vulnerable rear armor spots

>>182676106
I do 10 on every mech

Are the ECM related skills worth bothering with?

>>182677342
N O

>>182677365
Aight, well that saved me from making a mistake with my DDC.

>>182677342
If you have ECM, then yes.

>>182677819
ABSOLUTELY
NOT

Haha, in one game 3 different assault mechs thought they could take on my Atlas DDC at close range. Too bad the rest of their team rolled mine.

>things that never happened

>>182680726
I mean it wasn't all at once. I didn't solo 3 assault mechs if that's what it sounded like.