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= NEWS =
>1.03 patch notes
http://tekkengamer.com/2017/07/04/ps4-tekken-7-patch-ver-1-03-launched-japan-regions-soon-follow/
>Ultimate Tekken Bowl trailer
https://youtu.be/-BaJENh1Irs

= BASIC INFORMATION =
>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Fergus' character overviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame data for every character
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 moves for all characters
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
>T7 Character Information Compilation
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q

= TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS =
>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
>Korean Backdash Cancel (KBD)
https://youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94
>Button Buffering
https://youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8
>Options at the wall
https://youtu.be/2SW7kCmA23o
>How to get off the ground
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
>Low parrying
https://youtu.be/SF2wBESs01U
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://youtu.be/xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on pad
https://youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU
>Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
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1,000 doryas every day
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bruv
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Keep it down will ya. And stop it with the bong water.
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>>182570848
per side, per day
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>>182570982
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If you cry about a character, just drop the game.
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I want Aris and King Jae posters to leave.
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Does anyone know pro player that main Leo? I feel as if I've got good knowledge on Leo, but also feel as if I don't. If that makes any sense.
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Tekgen has been overrun by scrubs
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I'm the best Tekken player.
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>>182571152
theres a japanese player named KuroKuro that mains Leo
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>>182571059
I will never stop crying about Alisa and Paul, even winning against them pisses me off.
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>>182571152

I'mSoHot, OnlyPractice.
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Best girl right here
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>>182571209
>>182571241
Thank you Anons, I'll look them up.
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>>182571180
give it a while, they'll leave
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>>182571152
Leo is cheap easymode wins so if you look up most pro players there will be a video of them playing her because she is so easy to use
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>>182571152

Daddy King.
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>>182571351
>>182571180
>i want my already dead game to have even less players

Great attitude.
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>>182571235
I love you too anon
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>>182571382
I loved it when Floe tried out Leo on stream. It literally blew his mind how cheap and OP that faggot is.
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>>182571382
Anon, I want to escape the accidental shitstorm I caused in the previous thread. Please don't cause another one.
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>>182571487
Implying he knows shit about Tekken.
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>>182571437
No, I just want the quality of posts to rise a bit

It has gotten ridiculous here
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/tekgen/ tourneys are live!
US/PC:
http://challonge.com/95bscdbn
EU/PC:
http://challonge.com/kboqilts

When?
Starting 1st of July until 31st of July

Rules:
FT3
Double elimination bracket with random seeding
tourney settings (60 seconds, 3 rounds)
There must be a spectator.
Spectator must be someone who also enters the tournament
First match must be random stage.
Loser can pick character and stage.
Winner can't switch character.
item moves allowed
You have 3 days to complete your match.
Everyone can play their matches until top 8.
Report matches on discord or /tekgen/ thread.
Top 8 will be streamed by me.
5 EUR steam card for winners

PS4 will be in August.

EU:
Sungarassu vs Oddesu
Brulux vs azuchang
Carlo vs Apoleon
Kibernetik vs Bouken

US:
Desuman vs JosieCat
Castel708 vs Jenaus

Play your matches.
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Explain to me why Alisa's hopkick forces you into crouch and is only -13
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>>182571351
>>182571351
>>182571180
>>182571059
I can't wait for Tekken to be pretty much dead online outside of Asia like all the previous installments because of the toxic fanbase
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>>182571687
this is fine
t. kazuya main
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>>182571671
carlo already played and won 3:2
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>>182571780

>>182571573

Now have your you.
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>>182571687
because most hopkicks are -13?

>>182571780
t. unga bunga dishonest low iq poster
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>>182571795

>Kaz can launch DvJ's db2, Drag's d2, and Alisa's uf44.

I should switch to Kaz.
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Tekken 7 scares the ever loving shit out of me.

It's the first fighting game in which I start it up, and just kind of whimper out of it to play something else.

Why is this game so frightening? I mean, I act the punching bag in Fightcade all the time. I know I'm shit, but this is harrowing.
I mean, I'd rather give money to Bamco for Tekken over Dark Souls, but..I feel really scared and overwhelmed even at character select.
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>>182571671
>PS4 will be in August
Fuck you
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Bryan is so fucking annoying to fight
>hey heres some + on block shit
>here's some more of that
>btw don't bother trying to interupt cause all of my shit ends in a CH launcher
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>>182571687
People normally punish hopkicks with jabs, which have a similar reward to a ws4. Hers is 2 hits so it gives you more time to prepare your punish, so you can easily do your optimal punish if you have something better than a ws4.
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>>182572028
it's called autism, anon
you're among friends here
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I can't fucking stand playing against Lili, her moves are confusing as fuck. Block high? Get hit by a bunch of random ass moves that don't look like lows, or if you're really unlucky a Snake edge. Block low? Eat one of her 100000 long ass strings.
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>>182571687
I think Katarina's is the same. Like exact. Also all hopkicks are -13 iirc
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>>182572028

What the fug.
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im too dumb to play kazuya send help
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>>182571561
He started out with Tekken, he played it competitively. Blown. The. Fuck. Out.
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>>182572028
Why is Leo so jumpy?
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>>182572220
what are you having trouble with, anon?

>>182572268
I'm sure his 0 significant tournament placings in tekken reflect his skill
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> When TMM calls you a scrub after getting 2-0'd
>I Don't even know how to play this damn game
>pc is free
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>>182572024
so can eddy and josie
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>>182572220

The problem with Kaz for new players is that he takes too much knowledge to play, alongside the fact that you have to be pretty decent at executing Electrics. He's a really good character, but definitely not for someone who doesn't know frame data, or even new Tekken players in general. He's one the three hardest characters to play, in my opinion.

I really recommend switching if I were you.
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>>182572220
you mean you lack the execution

kazuya is braindead in terms of gameplan
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>>182572220 >>182570848
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>>182572502
*hits you with 3 hellsweeps and ff3 when you finally duck*
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>Literally everyone online is dodging me
I'm a fucking brawler ranked Kazuya what is everyone so scared of
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>>182572494

But they don't have a cool Electric move.
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>Kingjae wins EVO
>Room goes black
>Screen shows 2 returning characters and the new costumes
>OUT TOMMOROW

Bruv
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>>182572627
dude I play King. I get like 3 matches an hour. I actually haven't played for a few days out of frustration.
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>>182572435
>Things that never happened
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>>182572608

I'm glad those strategies are working for you against green rank players who don't know you have to sidestep to the left, but you didn't really prove me wrong.
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>>182572721
mhmmmm tell me more

I enjoy hearing about king players never getting games
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>>182572686
bruv if I'm being honest I fink they should bring back Ogre and Ganryu
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>>182572141
>a bunch of random ass moves that don't look like lows
name three
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>>182572432
>implying you would make top 8 at numerous premier events like Floe has in different Tekken games
Floe's opinion > random red ranked online warrior anon
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>>182572863
I got rage quit on by an Alisa player the other day too. They rekt me the first set then I realized all her dumb gimmicks and I WOULD have 3-0'd them if they didn't pull the plug as I was doing my running power bomb.
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>>182572128

This is...autism? I thought it was just me knowing I'll never win combined with not understanding jack shit in a game that isn't remotely friendly to people relatively new to 3D Fighters combined with experts sweeping at all levels, and a lack of friends who play so no motivation for even having casual fun
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>tfw 80 win mentor
this game is rough
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>>182572748
check his stream footage, my chloe 2-0'd his hei
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>>182572721
could be worse, you could play Paul
>it's a '3 bar Paul with an incredibly disproportionate amount of wins for his low rank' episode
get dodged
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>>182572141
>get hit by slow ass sweep
>GUIS I WAS REALLY UNLUCKY ITS NOT MY FAULT
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>>182572947
where are his tekken tournament results?
i'll wait
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>>182572947
But he's a yellow rank online warrior.
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>>182573150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txd4cyzlGgE
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>>182573150
First random video that came up on youtube. Top 8 NCR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_HGTa_ZeVw. There are loads more. Can you read? He was one of the first competitive American Tekken players in Tekken 1/2, the others he didnt play as much because he had moved on to SF but he still did well in later games.
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>>182573480
Lars looked so much better in ttt2 it's not even funny
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Can Bob fly? Where is he going in his outro
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>>182573480
>>182573518
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>>182573480
>>182573639
I like TTT2's aesthetic way more than T7 if I'm being honest bruv. I seriously miss Jaycee and Ganryu too. FUCK!
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>>182572432
>what are you having trouble with anon

spent an hour today minutes grinding out hellsweeps and ewgfs in training mode and then completely choked when trying to apply them in a real match. Same story as everyone new to mishimas but it bummed me out.

>>182572502
kazuya isnt my main im also playing steve and asuka. asuka is my easy character for learning fundies, steve is because i always play a boxer and kazuya is just because i want a piece of that mishima action.
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>>182571059

This

I swear I'm going to pick up jack just so you niggers stop having an excuse for your shit play.

If you don't want to get character knowledge go play Marvel or something
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Why are you guys so bad?
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You guys realize the game would be more fun if you didn't constantly spread negativity right
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>>182573820

If you want to play an easier Mishima, I'd recommend Heihachi.
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>>182573896
Define bad.
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>>182573480
tag 2 is so sick
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>>182572120
>People normally punish hopkicks with jabs

No they don't. They punish it with an i13 and you can't do that for Alisa because it forces crouching.
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>Get matched with Akuma player
>It's a promo match
>His 5 bar connection immediately goes to 3 bars once the match starts
>He's dogshit at the game and isn't even doing optimal combos
>Losing anyway cause it's laggy and I don't know the matchup
>2-2 last round
>he literally does a wakeup super
>it's enough to kill me
>just as it's about to hit his third world internet shorts
>we get disconnected and I don't get a loss
>win my next game and get promo'd
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/fgg/ has spoken
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>>182574041
Post 30 seconds of you punishing Claudio's hopkick with an i13 punish in a match.
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>>182572120
she can also just not do the 2nd hit
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>>182572721
My promotions to Brawler and Fighter were thanks to King players.

Without your grabs you can't do anything
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>>182573820
just gotta keep at it, anon
the motion is something to get used to doing on command and it'll get stuffed if you throw it out when they're right up in your face
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/tekgen/ how do I achieve my inner quan after I just get unga'd by some spamming faggot in light blue?
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>>182574180
Sure, but it's not hitconfirmable and the first hit is launch punishable.
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>>182574112
>guilty gear

not while xrd exists
at least separate xx and xrd
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>>182572841
people have started sidestepping to the left even in blue ranks, what should i be doing instead when they wakeup? just wavedash at them and block? df2 tracks but it is unsafe. an electric will whiff.

ff4 or FC df3+4? uf3? that is unsafe too but they only get a ws4 punish.
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>>182574159
I mean, I'm just sidestepping it. But ok. Gimme a bit to find a Claudio willing to hopkick me for 30 seconds.
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>>182574112
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>Ten losses in a row
Tilt is something crazy.
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>>182573936
I feel like the people complaining don't want the game to be seen as fun.
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>>182574112
>Bloody Roar
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>>182574112
>VF below SF
>KOF below SF
>Ultra above ST
>MK above tekken

Nice try
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>>182574227
Stop spouting forced memes, for starters.
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>>182574112
>Koreans and Japanese, the people with the highest IQ prefer Tekken.

Really makes you think...
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>>182574367
df3+4 and uf3 are both safe
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What the actual fuck am I supposed to do against a Lars mashing strings?
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>>182574303
sure but you cant always expect people to finish or not finish strings and you still get launched for trying to punish the first hit if you do go for it with the assumption that she wont finish the string
its just a very odd and confusing situation to be put in and the hopkick is still standard in terms of being 15f and low crush on frame 8
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Why are high rank Leos doing u/f3+4, d/f2+3 after a wallsplat? Does that do more damage? Every Korean Leo player does that I don't know why they're not just doing the standard b+1,4 KNK 3+4 like they used to.
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>>182574227
> Take a five minute break,
> Go into training mode
> Spam some deathfists with Paul, let rage leave you with every punch
> Go into online
> Get destroyed by a Bear
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>>182574671
>go learn his strings
>wait for the end of his strings
>punish his strings
10 minutes in training mode and it'll cease to be an issue

you do use training mode, right anon?
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>>182574367
out of wavedash, fc d/f+3+4 is a mid that knocks down on hit, think it's -10 now
ff+3 safe mid launcher
ws+3 is a safe homing mid
if you wanna mix it up you can do fc d/f,d,d/f+1+2 and throw them
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>>182574753
Low wall hit orbital gives a free df2+3 follow-up. It does more damage than her other wall combos.
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>Go into training mode everyday to learn how to counter new things
>For every new thing I learn how to beat I forget the previous thing I learned
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>>182574614
The most competitive game has always been SF in East Asia so no, KOF technically has the most players though but China doesnt count. But Tekken? Hell no, just a bunch of autistic Koreans and girls play that shit.
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>>182574671
Block mid and find the chance to get out. All of his lows and super risky and don't give much reward. He can't open you up unless you let him. His block punishment is really good, so play it safe.
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>>182574202
You've never fought a good King then. Don't blame you; they're rare.
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>>182574367

Don't bother with wavedashing, just run up and block if you want to close distance and guard. FF4, b4, db4, and f3 are all good. But for wakeup against someone who just gets up safely with techrolls and and such. use CD~ws3 or b4.
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>go against lucky nigger
>turn on trainer and win
>leave match
these faggots deserve no respect
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>>182574972
If I become a good King player will /tekgen/ give me the approval I desperately need?
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>change connection settings to 5 bar only instead of 4 bar or above
>go on a 7 win streak
holy fuck you have to try this lads
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>>182575120

PC was a mistake.
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>>182575143
no. they'll complain about him no matter what.
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>>182574887
Show me a bigger Japanese SF tournament than Mastercup.
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>>182575120
> lucky nigger
That's an insult to niggers anon
> trainer
Man you PC guys are spoiled brats

>>182575234
So suicide is my only option?
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>>182575120
>turn on trainer
that does what exactly?
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>>182575321
>>182575224
pick a real character faggots
you lucky shitters deserve 0 respect, of course I'm going to gimmick you, take the loss or alt f4 faggots

>>182575402
infinite health
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>>182575321
>So suicide is my only option?
I was gonna say yeah. But just keep playing him until there are no shitters left. That's my plan.
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electrics are too fun my dudes
>throw out electric from far out
>they try to whiffpunish
>CH electric their whiffpunish
does this stop working at higher ranks
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>>182573101
I got demoted twice in blue and just have been spending a week and a half in the lab alongside doing player matches. It's almost impossible to learn in ranked unless they implement DMing on PC.
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>>182575502
Just get to a high enough rank where people don't make shitty excuses for their losses.
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>>182574801
FCdf+3+4 is -12 on console. it used to be -10 in arcades.
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>>182575467

I don't even play Lucky Chloe, Lieutenant Autismo.
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>>182575143
/tekgen/ won't fix your daddy issues.
Be a good King for yourself.
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>>182575467
>infinite health
lol no it doesn't
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>>182575661
oh fug really?
>tfw it used to be -9
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>>182575467
Who's your main?
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>keep getting matched with grand masters
>they keep dodging me because I'm marauder
showing rank, character and wins was a mistake
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>>182575467
At this point i'm sure you're memeing, it's the same shit every thread. I even doubt the trainer actually works online, otherwise we'd see complaints about it everywhere.
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Man the game is so much easier when i'm not thinking about what buttons to hit

I almost feel like its a waste trying to learn a second character
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>>182574671
These are the dumbest questions that keep popping up here.
You've had the game for a month. Even if you are still completely unfamiliar with a character, you should know at this point that the way you deal with literally any character's strings is you learn them, block them, and punish them. This is basic fighting games 101.
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>>182575831
Sucky Blowey
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>>182575726
i think it was super strong being -10. it had some tracking and high crushed the entire time, and since he got the new ff+4, the reward for hitting FCdf+3+4 was super high compared to the risk (duck jab punish) then again, ff+3 is a safe mid launcher and both of these are slow options, so it kinda balanced out. -12 is a bit much. duck jab punish was not bad because it gives you a small 50/50 and frame trap after.
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>>182575712
Google is your friend
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>>182574112
What makes naruto storm low iq?
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Does Kazumi need to sidestep a lot? I think it's what's lacking in my pressure.
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>>182576165
>this trainer gives you infinite health anon, trust me it works :)
>remember to ignore the antivirus warning, it's a false flag. :)
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>>182576034
you can always put off learning a second character until further down the line, anon
there's a lot of game to learn, once you get the game down, it's not hard to apply to another character

>>182576104
yeah, I get what you mean
at least now it's only a ws+4 usually
does it still high crush entirely? that's what I used it for mostly
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>>182575467
you do know that if you turn on any client side modifications the game will just desync and the chloe will be awarded the win right
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>>182576165
>google chrome
Enjoy having your info sold to 3rd party companies negro
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Why is law so hard
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>>182576298
Whether or not you should sidestep depends on what your opponent is doing, not which character you're using. The point of a sidestep is to evade their attacks.
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>>182575831
Lee and Jack
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>>182576165
>nondescript "pc trainers"
lmao, salty consoleboy detected. not enjoying those 5 minute load times?
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>>182576389
I've used it 2 times and its never happened to me
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>>182576450
>sent from my android phone
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If I see a slow low coming I should be crushing it with a launcher right
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>>182573480
>Jaycee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn-enjcgV1o
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>>182576713
depends on the low
highly unsafe? might as well block and punish
unsafe but you can't launch punish it? sure, hopkick that shit
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>>182576713
launchers typically don't crush, you should block and launch punish it
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>>182576713
if you're a fucking madman maybe

you should be blocking it and then WR punishing it
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>>182576713
you should block it and punish it with a ws launcher if possible
otherwise crush or parry it depending on what gives you more damage
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>>182576502
Does sidestep beat jabs?
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>Tekken 7 is incredibly fun to play and fun at locals
>online Tekken is still complete trash and unfun to play
will this problem ever be fixed? I'd say it's a step bellow TTT2 and maybe T6 before BR
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>people who ditch after 2 matches in quick match when it's not laggy or a blowout

fuck offff
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>>182573067
games are more enjoyable played with friends :))
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>>182577032
Yeah but you have to sidestep away from whichever limb it is.
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>>182576368
WS4 punishes are scary now. kazumi has a mishima-tier one, akuma does too, leo's new followup is actually insane, and other mishimas and lee obviously still have theirs.

it should still high crush entirely.
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>>182576713
ORBITAL THAT SHIT
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>>182577073
it is a step back from ttt2 is a lot of ways, even completely ignoring gameplay.
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>>182577173
>WS44 with Akuma
>while you have d1 DP1 and d1 DP2
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NAGOYA BASHO IS STILL GOING STRONG

GANRYU WHEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuNRDqDEjuU
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>>182577032
yes
if you do a move that's slightly minus but still safe, sidestepping is a good idea to beat their attempt to "take their turn back" with a downjab or a standjab
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Feels good not revenge matching a King player
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>>182577098
>post this
>next guy leaves after one match
Seriously why even play quick match if you're just going to leave?
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>>182577620
because no one wants to play your laggy ass faggot
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>>182577594
Feels better actually winning 2-0 instead of running away scared.
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>>182577369
fair enough. akuma is pretty good.
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>>182572914
to kingchaingrab picture guy, manhattan drop can be broken with 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qd0UmtfIA0
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>>182577620
Why play again when I lost? I'll just lose again
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>>182577401
dude the match with Hakuho was insane. If I was the other guy I don't know what I would have done.

Does anyone else feel like TTT2 has a better aesthetic than Tekken 7? I honestly think it looks better. Although I know it isn't technically better.
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>>182577098
>fighting endless games with characters you have already played a billion times
Trying to learn different match ups here asshat. Got no time for that shit.
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>>182578160
No. I'm just tired of looking at TTT2. Maybe in a few years when I'm just as tired of T7.
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>>182577620
>laggy
>2nd guy was a smooth 5 bar
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>>182578425
I understand you on that. It's just Tekken 7 feels so dark compared to how colorful and vibrantTTT2 was.
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Man I miss jacks voice in 1-5 now.
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>>182578160
T7FR is VERY washed out colour-wise
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>>182578554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vT9p7T_rb8

I liked how Tekken 6 looked more.
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>play 200 win Law on quick match
>wins one game
>quits
I swear only faggots play this character
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>>182578160

But Tag 2 is technically and mechanically better. Only good thing about T7 is Rage Arts, Rage Drives and Slow mo. Everything else pales in comparison, especially customization.
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>try this infinite health trainer online meme
>it always gives infinite health TO MY OPPONENT, doesn't matter if i'm p1 or p2
>desync after 2 rounds
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>>182578751
stop wasting my time kid
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>>182578160
Was incredibly impressed with Ishiura taking down a goliath 60kg's heavier than him, blew my mind
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>>182578876
Thank you Harada

Even through I would liked something more direct like an outright ban.
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>>182576876
>WR
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>>182579175
while rising, yeah?
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>>182576352
>>182576450
>>182576614
I was showing that you can use trainers to cheat, not that you should go download them you salty morons
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>>182578597
why does he quack
is there a duck inside, piloting him?
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don't go around telling everyone I said this, but for tekken 8 Heihachi's soul will be infused into the body of a sickly petite 16 year old girl
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>>182579325
>I was showing that you can use trainers to cheat
By typing "pc trainers" into google? Good job retard.

There's no infinite health trainer for tekken. I'm pretty sure the only trainer in existence is TOOL_ASSISTED's and he doesn't share his tech
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>>182579317
no
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>>182579317
>while rising
Don't exist in tekken. It's While Standing.
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>>182579027
I remember his debut basho. He beat a lot of huge dudes in a row. I think he ended up 10 wins 5 losses. It was insane. november 2016 tournament if you wanna see it. The dude is like a little tank. Love watching him fight when he doesn't choke right away. Ura is fun to watch as well. He's clever as fuck.
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How do I start out in tekken? Coming from SF this game feels so foreign and awkward. 3d space is weird, combos requiring little timing (if any) and usually is just extremely fast mashed out inputs, special moves with neutral thrown in as a base is just odd getting used to timing, just frames feel worse than 1f links because there is no trick like plinking to getting them, the amount of command normals to remember just for your character alone is awful but learning the entire roster so you know what is punishable sounds like hell, movement is awkward my hands just cant get used to using my stick like this to do advanced dashes and i hate that if i dash for a long time i just immediately get put in a shitty waist grab.

I don't even know where to begin. The game is so alien to me coming from 2d fighters and SF.
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>>182578160
i think the worst aesthetic thing about tag 2 was some of the faces, but those mainly stuck out in character intros anyway. in matches it wasn't a big deal at all. i even like the hit effects and such a lot more; t7 has some od effects and particles.
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Is Ultimiate Tekken Bowl really going to be 25 fucking dollars?
>>
>Winning 2-0
>Mobile house ring is ringing just to my side, unreachable without getting up
>Fucker won't stop phoning
>30 beeps later, and I'm choking as fuck
>2-3
>Check out who the fuck was phoning me
>Bullshit pre-recorded message about a "free" holiday competition

I've never been so fucking livid.
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>>182579669
It says While Rising in the command list though
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>>182579834
no lol, where did you hear that?

the season pass barely costs that much and Tekken Bowl is included in it
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>>182579317

I know how stupid it sounds, but WR actually stands for "While Running", and WS means "While Standing", mean when you're getting up from a crouch.
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>>182579631
Yeah, because some of the uneducated say shit like "you can't use a trainer to cheat."

Call me names more anon, whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

https://mic.com/articles/179352/tekken-7-cheat-engine-how-to-get-infinite-health-and-more-cash-with-this-trainer#.92WtFw6UE
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>>182579770
I wish I could get a body for sumo
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>>182579317
it's while standing in this game. while rising is soul calibur.

WR for while running, WS for while standing.
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>>182579876
Meant to say Mobile house phone, fuck.
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>>182579963
yeah, but english tekken players are idiots and went with while standing to differentiate it from while running.
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>>182579991
>offline only
lol
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i cant land a single combo off of steve's b+2 i can barely even land a second hit
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>>182580231
What would your notation for running moves be, in that case? forward forward forward? While Going Quicker Than Normal (WGQTN for short)
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>>182580004
eat an incredible amount of soup.
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It should have been WR for While Rising and WS for While Sprinting desu
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>>182580312

df1+2 is a good follow up if you can't land the full combo.
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>>182580357
While Sprinting
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>>182580357
During Moving Quite Quickly
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>>182580420

I completely agree. the WS/WR thing is honestly the dumbest thing about Tekken notations, but everyone just accepted this by now.
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>>182580240
No way, you actually read the article? I tap.
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>>182580357
While In a State Similar to The Running Motion You Get From a Distance Away (WIaSStTRMYGFaDA)
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Are there any fast characters with high skill ceilings? I main Xiaoyu but I'm looking for someone that doesn't spin and roll around at all times. It can be draining
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>>182580896
Lee is your man, high as fuck skill ceiling but with VERY fast punches n kickz

that or Hwaorang
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>>182580420
i agree, but notation as a concept in the first place is always going to be arbitrary no matter what, so everyone has to learn something arbitrary so they can develop a mutual understanding when discussing things, which is the point of notation in the first place. notation is never an intuitive thing until you learn it, which means you're accepting that it's arbitrary anyway, so it doesn't really matter in the end besides new players complaining about learning it.
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>>182580896
Drawing 10/10 please tell me you made that in paint just for this

Also wouldn't the Mishimas be considered high skill?
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Am I gonna make it bruv?
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>>182579789
please, i just want to enjoy this game and stop being frustrated at my hands
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>>182575467

Laugh at this scrub, he'll be bad forever
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>>182581561
> Lucky Chloe
You just triggered like 99% of tekgen
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>>182581561
No you most likely will get demoted once people know everything Lucky Chloe does is unsafe and launch punishable.
Just block high and wait.
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>>182580896
Play Chloe, she is Xiao for dummies
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>>182577073
>No replays
>Can't see what rank you are amongst specific character categories
>Can't see other people's saved replays
>Netcode sucks
>Still doesn't punish quitters
>Still doesn't give you the win if your opponent quits

Yeah, it sucks pretty bad. It has a few cool features here and there, like match lists and tournament mode, but they still have their own share of problems.
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>>182580420
I want to choke on Asuka's titties
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>>182581591
yo i came here from SF too and you just have get used to it, there's no trick. They're different games and you can't think of it like you're playing streets, it's a new set of rules and you either learn them or stop playing the game.
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>>182581591
this might help you some
https://twitter.com/darryh/status/871040039014219780
check out the top 15 moves link in the OP, too
you will use those 90% of the time if not more
here are some videos of basic combos for every character:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeEk_GDSnydYwPax0IATKf_x5WXYKTwBc
turn on 'recovery animation' in training mode and you can see how safe/unsafe a move is
not to the degree frame data tells you, but you can figure out what stuff is unsafe because it looks unsafe etc
who do you play?
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>>182580972
I'll check out Lee. Never been into hwo

>>182581067
Kek, I wish I made this. I used to main heihachi in older games but I don't really like mishima style anymore

>>182581789
I'm sorry I hate the concept of chloe
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>>182582112
I haven't really picked a character yet. I've only really touched Kazuya and Devil Jin, I don't really know who to play.
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Honestly, I don't care about quitters.
It's not like assfaggots or other multi shit where if someone quits, you are forced to endure shit for next 20 minutes until the game ends.
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>>182581785
Yeah, that's why a Lucky Chloe player won the last T7 arcade major.

You're not very good at this game, anon. Don't assume everyone else is just as bad as you.
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>>182581591
>>182579789

First of all, take it easy, it's not as suffocating as you think. Decide on a character, and stick to him/her, don't keep switching around characters, It hinders your growth not only with that character, but learning Tekken in general. Why are you even concerning yourself with Just Frames moves and the like right now anyway? It sounds like to me you just did a whole bunch of research about the game, but didn't play much of the game yourself. Learning what's punishable will just take time, I don't know why you thought otherwise, because it's the same shit with literally every other fighting game.

You're stressing yourself out for no reason.
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>>182582160
>I'm sorry I hate the concept of chloe
Better than dull panda stink girl

>>182582287
>that's why a Lucky Chloe player won the last T7 arcade major.
Chloe even came top 8 in something?
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>>182577073
>>182582005
Here come the capcucks!

Remember the only time you should give these shills (you)s is to expose them for what they are!
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>>182582220
who do you play in other games?
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>>182582287
A pro player wins with any character, colour me surprised.
Jack is awful and yet Saint mains him

You're projecting very hard right now.
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>>182582454
In SF Akuma and Ryu
In Goobers Leo and Johnny
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>>182582546
That's the point, dumbdumb
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>>182582448
lack of replays is a real issue, though
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>>182582432
>dull panda stink girl

Uuh, k?
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>>182582352
to be fair, in most other fighting games, a lot of moves are very similar, and most characters only have about 10-15 if that. Tekken, 1 character can have up to 30+ command normals, special moves added ontop of that, and lots of different ways to throw you.
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>>182582448
Not everyone who has a criticism of the game is a "capcuck". Stop being so insecure.
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>>182582593
Did you even understand my post you stupid green-rank mouth-breather?

Fucking neck yourself
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>>182582432
> Chloe is better than Xiaoyu
Not the guy you're replied to, but I have no disresp---respectfully disagree. And I will give you a long and well-thought out essay on why you are wrong

Xiaoyu ISN'T the Dead or Alive loli ripoff
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>>182582546

Yes dumbass, that is the point. Good players can win with any character. The fact that you blame your wins and losses on the characters, rather than the players, is because you're a shit player.

When you get good, you'll stop doing that. Until then, you'll make embarrassingly stupid posts like >>182581785
>>
Welp got demoted from fighter to brawler on 1 char and vanguard to brawler on another
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>>182582931
brawler sounds cooler than fighter anyway
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>>182582895
>The fact that you blame your wins and losses on the characters, rather than the players, is because you're a shit player.


BUT I
DID
NOT
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>>182582775
>anon being mature
God I just want you to pin me against the wall
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>>182582565
haven't played xrd but I'd say lars, bob, claudio, shaheen are worth trying out
any type of movement in this game can be canceled, that's why backdash canceling exists
you can forward dash and tap back and stop. or run from a far distance and tap back and stop
same thing with sidesteps too
in terms of punishing, just learn your i10 standing punish, a launcher, and your fastest ws punish and ws launcher
proper use of those is much more important than knowing every optimal move until way further down the road
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>>182582931
> Take a five-minute break
> Go into practice
> Use Paul and deathfist your least favorite character many times
> Go back to online
> Get destroyed by a Bear

The last part is very important
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>>182577401
why are they doing ft1s
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>>182583031
>wahhh chloe cant win cuz shes not saaaafe

Stop with the excuses, you're boring me. Either get good or stop whining.
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>>182582689
>>182582874
Xiao is just really dull as personalities go, she just wants Jin's dick just cause and that is it. Her story hasn't moved on since day 1.

Plus she smells like panda.

>Xiaoyu ISN'T the Dead or Alive loli ripoff
She may as well be, she has as much personality as your average DoA bimbo. At least Chloe is a subversion, her nice personality is all pretend. Both those endings are more development as a character than Xiao got since Tekken 3.
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>>182583169
>wahhh chloe cant win cuz shes not saaaafe

I DID NOT SAY THAT
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>>182582432
I hate Eddy but he did not deserve to be BLEACHED by an evil girl
>>
How the fuck do people play Lee with this stupid bullshit damage scaling fucking Assuka players can do fucking 80 damage off 7 hits and Lee can do maybe fucking 60? Feng can do literally the same juggle 3 times in the same combo and cap out at over 80 while Lee has to do all this bullshit to come out with fucking 70 damage on CH? What is this garbage?

t. I'm bad at Lee and salty about it pls gib tips
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>>182583306
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>>182581785
>>182582546
>>182582795
>>182582895

I don't know how many people are in this cesspool of an argument but you seem too retarded to see that you all agree
>>
Why are we arguing about a character? Play the game you fools.
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>>182582287
Jeondding?
>>
No Eddy Gordo no buy
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>>182583710
anon he's in the game
>>
bruv I been finking
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>>182582287
>Arcade major

Jeondding is really good but I don't think he would even be able to get top 16 with Chloe at a real major like EVO or SBO if they were still alive.
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>>182583846

STOP THIS SHIT NOW

ENOUGH
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>>182583850
When did jeondding pass?
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>>182583827
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>>182575467
>>182578876
Alright, i actually bothered to test every trainer i could find (five of them) and this is the case for every single one. Online, It's always your opponent who gets infinite health, not you. So this retard is just falseflagging or some shit.
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>>182584095
look he is just there
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>>182584095
that's not the release build
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>>182583234
Can't disagree on the dull personality bit, but I can and will disagree that Chloe is a subversion of anything.

She's Marie Rose with boobs and dance moves. This character is blatant waifu bait. Play her and like her all you want, but don't try to tell me she's anything else than that
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>>182584095
?
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>>182584152
uhh why is that other chloe black?
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>>182584318
It's 2017.
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>>182584318
brown girls are great, anon
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>>182584225
This.

I started with Chloe because she looked like obnoxious waifu bait. Then, I went to tournament and lost to 1st and 3rd because they knew that they could jab me out of pretty much everything. I could have just did things differently but then I don't feel like I'm playing Chloe since all of the cool shit is horrible so I dropped her.
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>>182584225
Chloe is very much a subversion, she acts cute but is really a cunt working for an evil organisation partly as a bouncer

She also doesn't care when she accidentally causes Jack to kill himself
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>>182584318
If you don't have a tanned girl custom you're not getting a runback AND i might rage on you.
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>Kicking me after you already defeated me
Well, fuck you too, asshole.
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>>182584543
I'm fine with beating your ass once, so go ahead and quit afterwards
see me on steam, OwnmasterPro5k
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>quick match
>get bodied a million times in a row
>win once
>he leaves
wtf bro
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>>182583265
I DID NOT

Oh hi Mark
>>
Today i learned law isn't a cheap char and you can fuzzy guard his tricky stuff. I wonder if ling is the same. Keep playing law anons.
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>>182584761
Get your tank shooting pizza chef Dragunov outta here you dumb stoner

Hey somebody shoot this guy
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>>182584615
Use this
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>>182584867
t. Law main
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>>182584867
Once you're good enough you'll realize that there are no cheap characters. Just bad players.
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>>182585004
Alisa main, I didn't get salty i just asked a law for set and to show me the strings. I also learn he does death fist like damage from the jumping forward Bruce Lee kick
>>
What are some MID IQ characters
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>>182585070

Every character is fair. Anyone saying otherwise hasn't been in training mode with them long enough.
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>>182585193
jack
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>>182585070
t. Eddy main
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>>182584494
> Chloe acts like waifu bait but actually isn't

This is what you call subversion? A couple of one-off side story scenes makes her a subversion meanwhile no matter what victory pose you get or intro line is heard, she's only being the waifubait she knows she is?

Strictly by definition you are technically correct, however a subversion =/= good character. This is depth on the most basic of levels. Harada wasn't being clever with Lucky Chloe nor was he trying to be.
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>>182585223
Leo is considered unfair by dozens of pros. That's why cancerous fucks like >>182571152 are so proud of their petty rank.
>>
>>182585193
jack
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>>182584847
Who is Mark, some streamer?
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>>182584867
Xiaoyu is the same. People just need to duck after many of my lows hit
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>>182585526
You're tearing me apart, Lisa!
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>>182585526
Oh, you don't actually know the reference? It's from an infamously HORRENDOUS movie called "The Room".

It has a lot of memorable, terrible quotes such as "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!"
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>>182585410
>a dozen
a trillion even
you will never get out of green assuming you reached brawler
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>>182585373
>couple of one-off side story scenes
That is every tekken character who isn't a mishima or attempting get mishima dick. And even with that Xiao falls short.

>This is what you call subversion
>Strictly by definition you are technically correct,
SEE YOU NEXT TIME, BYE it is almost like they planned for her to grate on people but then subvert it, Harada wins again
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How do I grab people laying on the ground as king?
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>>182586025
d/b+1+3 or d/b+2+4 by their feet
there are a shitload of throws when they're on the ground in other positions, check the movelist
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>>182586025
You do the grab that picks them up from the ground

but most importantly you could stop being a mouthbreathing retard and look at your own movelist
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>>182586264
I'm at work on break right now you faggot
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How do you make it your turn when youre a noob? Its not like i can KBD and make them whiff punish, even sidestepping doesnt do shit because you cant block during it.
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>>182586453
Why do you have reaction pictures at work?
>>
http://mastercupofficial.com/17582
Taisei is going to win Evo for his single mom!
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>>182586025
>game completely based on neutral play
>king gets a million command grab/command grab combos to bypass neutral
>decent normals to boot
Hmmmmmmmm
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>>182586513
ACE

FUCKING

DETECTIVE
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>>182586513
I do data entry and they let us use the computers when we are on break as long as its SFW

Our computers are also our own personal ones so we can have w/e we want on it as long as its appropriate for work.
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>>182586453
Then use Google you pitiable fool. Or better yet, do your work instead of being a fool on the internet.
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>>182586645
>a huge majority of throws are breakable
I can't imagine these threads if you had to break generic throws with specific breaks still
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Can throws be punishes or is it always possible to tech throws? I like finishing people off with a throw if I block their rageart

This is important
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>>182586761
Because I can choose where I want to get my sources.
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>>182586761
If you keep talking down to that poor anon like that you're gonna make me start getting all hot and bothered, anon
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>>182586645
almost every character can do the same thing. every character has 2 normal grabs and most, if not all have a command grab that is 1+2 break usually. A lot of characters also have grabs that catch crouching people as well. People like to complain about King, but would get destroyed by a Bryan or Dragunov all the same. They also have many grabs. You have to know which of the 3 they will do. Bob has a command grab that gives him a free combo too! Reminds me of Gouken's from SF4.
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>>182586453
Hey take it easy wagie, you will get gud at Tekken eventually, that is if Mr.Goldberg gives you your time off.
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>>182586504
crouch punch
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>>182586796
at least everyone had useful throws then
now you either have command throws or you don't have throws
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>>182586889
at best a throw is uninterruptible
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>>182586796
That's 17ers for you.
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>>182586969
I make a decent amount for my age while doing college. I hope to leave this shit hole once I get my degree.

Also live on my own in a apartment with a friend I know. We split the bills, food, chores, etc. We are managing quiet ok. My mom is only helping in some ways of paying for college while my dad doesn't give a fuck.
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>>182587032
yeh I kinda feel that way too

>>182587063
now that I look back on it, I'm glad I got the majority of my start in tag2 when it was a lot less forgiving
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>tfw internet is still down so no tekken 7
fucking haraba fix this
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>>182587376
How are you posting right now
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>>182587565
4 G L T E
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>>182587376
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>>182587565
at work but also have unlimited data
phones still suck tho this image captcha shit makes me not wanna post
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>>182584761
you've been blacklisted
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Fighting games makes me unhappy, I get too angry, atleast the 700 something treasure battles I did were fun
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>>182587032
it hasn't changed that much due to the fact that every chracter has at least 1 command grad
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>>182588336
But if you win its fun right? So, win more.
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Josie needs a slight nerf
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>>182588810
keep it down willya
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Connecting an EWGF against a real opponent is the most satisfying feeling in the fucking world.
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>plays against Akuma in ranked
>tons of projectiles and lows online
>beat him
>no revenge match
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hello it's me Harada
I know you guys have been upset with me lately, I understand
but for EVO, I have something special
are you ready?
i will announce
Scenario campaign part 2 with Lars and Alisa!
i know you will all be very excited
stay tuned and please buy season pass
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Why the fuck does Paul have a ninja outfit when Feng doesnt

How the fuck am I supposed to turn Feng into the Iron Monkey
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>>182589197
Fuck yeah, Tekken Force is back baybae! Thank you based Harada!
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>>182589197
Harada can we have the darker shades of black back pretty please?
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>>182588981
Once you hit the 100 hour mark of the EWGF vortex your neurons have subtly begun to change. By hour 200 you know nothing but EWGF.

Other players simply cannot comprehend the enlightenment that comes with mastering a Mishima. It is a state of pure zen that is akin to speaking with God. Playing another character is dirtying yourself and must be cleansed by performing a ritual in involving hundreds of CH DF2 PEWGF loops.
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>>182586889
throws can always be teched unless the throw is one of the special untechable ones or you throw someone out of their armor move

i think. try some throws out in practice mode when you are recovering from moves and see if you can still tech
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>>182589430
You'd think TMM would have spent a couple of hours labbing characters he hates.
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Why does Nina have so good little fan art
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>>182588981
just df 2 bruv not sure what you mashimas are so concerned about
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>>182589658
he was playing Akuma on stream the other day and he was getting so butt hurt because he actually had to think. It was funny.
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Is Jin honest?
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>>182589912
Everyone's as honest as you want them to be.
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>>182589972
But has he ever lied?
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>>182589972
I buffer crossed fingers into all my moves
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>>182589912
his low launcher can fuck off desu
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>>182590215
He has a low launcher? You mean counterhit db4?
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Who's fucking idea was it to force me to play a bunch of shitty vs CPU matches to get gear

I'm going to get awful shit habits from this, all I want is the Tiger Mask shorts.
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>>182590320
no I think it's from his cd
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>>182590353
Oh Hellsweep, well its not as bad as getting hit by a proper sweep
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>>182590509
no but it's 20f so basically guaranteed online. people stop getting hit by sweeps at some point
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>>182590048
No, but he's been lied to.
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>>182590330
just practice combos against a moving target
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watching qudans sigh audibly every time he gets hit by xiaoyus RD is hilarious on his VODs
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>>182590330
Leave it to our lord and savior Turbo Katarina.
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>>182589197
I'd take a scenario campaign but each character should have their own storyline. Fuck playing as those shitters.
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Devil Jin looks and plays amazing. How can other Mishima's even compete??
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>>182590618
Hey don't delete me from steam anon, I'll be back on pc when they update it. People keep dodging my alisa
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Is it a good idea to abuse punch parries and other punch reversals agains Steve?
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>Stick breaks in the middle of a match

Oh alright. Like I wasn't annoyed enough going through the Alisa gauntlet.
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>>182591068
they can't
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>>182591068
t. edgelord
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where do you guys find these Alisa players
I'm warrior with Bob and have probably played 5
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>>182591068
>strongest mishima
>SS tier
>easiest to play

DJin is cool and all but real men play Kazuya
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>>182591068
well kazuya has actual launchers from while standing
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>>182591473
By easy do you mean for a mishima main? Because his combos are fucking hard
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>>182591192
Yes but don't get too predictable, or you'll eventually get PAB d/f+2 launched
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If Jin isn't considered a Mishima why does TheMainMan play him?
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What do against Law's bullshit parry/throw thing with his leg slam.
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>>182591735
he relies on ewgf even less than kazuya or heihachi, has better pokes and has get off me moves that the others simply dont have. you dont need the double ewgf combos to be successful and i think all his combos that start and end with ewgf still work if you do a wgf.
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>Equip Jins Tekken 4 costume
>Equip a bandana
>Ingame he still wears the costumes hoodie and when it flies off his hair clips through the bandana

THREE
YEARS
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>>182591127
Who are you? I don't remember deleting anyone recently.
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why do you cuckboys play 50/50 coinflip simulators and pretend that there is any skill involved?
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>>182592454
guessing right consistently is a skill
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That's it. I'm doing it.
I'm finally just gonna main Law. Bruce Lee is a champ and Law is flashy and fun.
Please keep your tears to yourself, I just don't care anymore
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>>182592546
Indeed it is, poker players are consistent
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How can pixels be this disgusting
those fucking horns
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>>182592964
please dont talk about my wife like that
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>>182592865
I never should've cared from the start anon
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>>182592964
Its a bad webcam ok? yeesh, dont talk to me again
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>>182592865
It feels good, doesn't it anon? To ascend beyond the scrubby opinions of shitters. Enjoy Tekken. Law is cool
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Is Marshall's cocaine stance useful?
The one where he like rubs his nose then dances about until... WATAAAA!
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I feel like im the only person who wants zafina back. I played ttt2 super casually, and i really liked her. Now that im actually learning to play i want to have her in T7. Also i want to have her for sex.
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What is Alisa bad at?
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>>182593480
Zafina and Lei won't be back till tag 3
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>>182593480
I feel ya bro. Zafina is awesome. Her story is over though and she's not the most popular. Cherish the memories
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>>182593421
Kek
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>>182592343
Peraliq, I'm still added. Just want to clarify in case you remove me
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>>182592964
Look at her chin
LOOK
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>>182593549
being a best
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>>182593549
Losing
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>>182593549
being cute
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>>182592189
Do you have any resources for a guide? Everywhere makes him seem super complicated especially combos like ewgf, laser, ff4, ff321
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>>182593608
I hate that. The tag games seem kinda gimmicky (competitive-wise) compared to main entries. Like you have to learn dynamics and comps that dont follow through to any other title. I just want to play her ffs.
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>>182593908
in the OP

https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q
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>>182591858
Because he is Kazuya's son. And has EWHF.
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>>182593421
10/10 post. I laughed
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Do you ever come across some guy playing your main or trying him out and he plays so different from you it completely throws you off and you lose

Like what the fuck are you doing
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>>182593787
>>182593791
>>182593881

I'm serious. I'm tired of losing to this character more than anyone else. When I do win, it feels like sheer luck. Spill the beans you fucking stoners.
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>>182593549
Awful WS moves. Her WS+2 launcher is 17 frames.
df+2 launcher doesn't launch crouching opponents.
Poor mixups.
Low damage.
Few moves that are + on block.
Her throws don't give any oki. 1 command grab.
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How do I play gigas to yellow ranks?
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how do I improve my reaction time to block unseeable lows?

once my opponent realizes I have the reflexes of a cardboard box all they do is use their fastest lows after different combos and I'm as good as dead. I just lost two promotion chances to this scenario
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WHY DOES JOSIE ATTACK SO FUCKING FAST
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>>182594773
Understand the situations where the characters use said lows. You can't react to an unseeable low. That's why it's unseeable.
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>>182594624
you can always launch with hopkick from FC
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>>182594821
Because she is cool and her friends are bears
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>>182594624
Thanks. I'll keep this in mind and if you're lying to me, I'll find you and shoot you.
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>>182594736
If im bein honest bruv gigas is a really strong character really sick good punishesan i fink most of his moves are +5 or -8? Yeah i fink so ff2 really strong look look really good just do the comboh bruv d/b 2 man really strong if im bein honest OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH MY DAAAAAAAYS MAN
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>>182594821
Same reason why bob attacks so fast. Video game logic.
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>>182594624
*2 command grabs
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Local FGC cunt plays king and focuses on 1 combo and spamming low kicks and mashing out throws.

I beat him 75% of the time but that 25% of the time he pops off.

How do I beat him into the ground and no have to punch him IRL?
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Is that a motherfugging Jojo reference
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I fucking love low parries. The animation is so cool.
It's also a great mental weapon.
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>>182594736
Use his big arms to poke and his command throws. Use d2 to whiff punish and use df+1 and df+4 for mid pokes. Your best combo ender is df 1+2, 1+2. Also, remember to buff his command throw and use it near a wall for max effect.

You should use his rage drive over his rage art. His rage drive forces people into a really nice 50/50. I suggest using it when the opponent is low. Also, always press 1 instead of 2.
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>>182595221
Have you tried getting good?
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>you can neutral low guard

AY CARAMBA
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Okay, tommorow i'm going to play

1-5 Feng all day
6-0 Jin all day
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>>182595946
>>182595517
did you guys know that you can low parry dick jabs?
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WHAT THE FUCK IS GIGAS'S RAGE DRIVE
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>>182596145
dont question it, just power crush/armor it
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>>182596129
yeah
some special mids can be low parried
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>>182596124
The correct choice
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>>182596129
dick jabs get me out of so much pressure at low level i really dont know what im going to do when ppl start parrying them
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>>182596145
A 50/50. It's either an unblockable high or a blockable mid. He can also choose to delay it to beat parries.
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>>182594879
I actually meant to say seeable, like kats d/b +4
its so slow but I always get hit by it
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>>182596427
He also can jump on you
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>>182596436
Go into training mode, set the dummy to do it and practice your punish on it a couple times without failure. Then set the dummy to do the low with 4 other actions to simulate pressure.
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How do you wavedash on pad
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>>182596531
>>182596427
>>182596263

IF YOU MAKE A C-TIER CHARACTER AT LEAST MAKE IT SO ALL HIS ARE C-TIER
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>>182596436
You just have to learn to see the animation as soon as possible.

The move itself is very slow but you are spending so much time wondering what the fuck are they doing before you realize it's a low sweep.
Practice more.
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Who /enterthedragon/ here?
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>>182596531
Huh, I actually didn't know that, the more you know.
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>>182573480
I miss Jaycee so much. Her and Lei need to be in 7.
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>>182595138

>Same reason why bob attacks so fast. Video game logic.

What the fuck are you talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQSkpvufLs
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>>182596675
>>182596739
thanks will try
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>>182596747
I like the look of the other more.
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>>182597190
Also this is interesting
https://youtu.be/GgQH1y1j3hk
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How do you deal with really big -frames on block moves when they're being spammed? Like with bryan for example. I never know when its safe to move again and I usually just end up blocking until he throws me
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>>182596747
Bitch I AM the dragon.
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Is Lars any good? I love the sounds he makes and his win pose.
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>>182597624
Yeah if ur a homo
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>>182597624
He's low tier with good wall carry and wall damage, he also has one of the best block punishes in the game. Hard to play requires understanding how to set opponent up for his launchers
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Jaycee is trash

give me Julia instead
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>>182597524
>Bitch
Yea sounds like Feng
>>
damn is no one playing player match right now or what
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>>182597190
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQSkpvufLs

Oh my god that guy is GOLDEN
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>>182598118
Thanks

>>182598075
no homo
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>>182598127
Literally the same person.
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>>182598668
I'm talking about gameplay

also character design
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Do characters have different backdash speeds or something, I move well on my main but trying other characters sometimes it just feels off
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>>182586889
If you grab someone's back they can't tech it
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>>182598931
some characters like Paul and Bryan have back sways iirc. So it feels a bit sluggish in comparison unless you change it up a bit.
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Tanukana noooooooo
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>>182599321
I want to lick her stomach.
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>>182599321
when
where
why
more
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>>182599403
>>182599440
Lmao. Thirsty losers
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>>182598931
Yes, Alisa has the best sidestep and the best backdash in the game.
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>>182599251
>>182598931
oh I thought you meant korean backdash my bad
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Any good TTT2 tutorials for the bears?
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>>182599440
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>>182599321
where is this from?
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>>182599746
Fuck off
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>>182599760
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>>182599953
Rude
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>>182599321
>>182599760

She really does know how to market herself.
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>>182600404
Too bad she's ugly.
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>>182599760
Asuka tiddies?
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>>182600325
DF+3+4 it seems
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Any Lee advice?
From what I can tell he does piss for fucking damage and his punishes suck because they have the range of a midget's half-extended boner.
I've heard that his damage comes from counter hits, but how can you fish for counters when all of your fastest counter launcher moves have no range/can be ducked?
IDK, seesm garbo to me.
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>>182600464

Beauty isn't just about good looks, it's also about the aura you give off. Tanukana has it in spades, she's incredibly adorable.
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High green is so strange

Sometimes I run into somehow who's really good and knows his character and the matchup.
Other times I'll run into some Lars doing the most unsafe shit ever and who eats every canned autopilot mixup I throw at him
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>>182600838
You're pretty pathetic
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>>182600838
Look I like seeing titties and all but you sound extremely cringy right now
>>
>>182600838
she behaves exactly the same as almost any young japanese voice actress these days

they all do the same shit to look cute and adorable, as forced as it may be
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>>182600909
I played a 3rd dan steve with 50 wins who ate every frame trap and meme I threw at him in the first game but in the revenge match he adjusted to everything and I lost
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>>182600969
>>182601086
>>182601129

I just bloody said that she knows how to market herself. I'm aware of what she's doing but I'm not going think ill of her because she can gravitate people towards her. Jesus fucking Christ calm your jimmies.
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>>182601308
He downloaded you
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>>182601519
yes of course she knows how to market herself

it's just that your other post >>182600838 was full autism, hence the reactions
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>>182601551
He really did, but I didn't expect a 3rd dan player with 50 wins to be capable of that, he should be a higher rank
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>>182601697
wait till you start playing the 500 win brawlers and the 1k win warriors
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with Master Raven what can you get after a backturned 1+2? I feel like it should be a lot but nothing I'm trying works besides 3~4 and d4
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Alright tekgen, it's been awhile

Who do you main?
Why?
Secondaries?
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>>182602342
Miguel
I love his style and I always loved frame traps
Thinking about Lili or Steve
>>
Is Dragunov's qcf 1 the best whiff punisher in the game?
>Easy as fuck to executed (not annoying like a EWGF or Jet Upper)
>RETARDED range
>Fast
>Leads to a full combo on hit
>-1 on block
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>>182602342
Josie
I thought she was interesting ever since I first watched her in arcades years ago and I always had a slight interested in Bruce but never gave her a try. I also like her outfit.
Jack
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>>182602342
None
Haven't found anyone that really clicked
Dragunov / Clauido / Feng

New to fighting games in general.
>>
>>182602342

Heihachi
Because bb3+4 always puts a smile on m face.
Jin, Kaz, Devil Jin, Bryan, Feng, Kazumi, Feng, Josie and Dragunov.
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>>182602342
Miguel main
Simple character for a low iq player like me
Kazumk sub
Same reason
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>>182602707
>can't punish moves that recover crouching
>17 frames slow with perfect input
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>>182602342
Asuka
Hit random while playing against a friend and liked how she played, plus she was somewhat easy to pick up
Miguel was who I played before Asuka
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>>182602342
Lucky Kuroe.
memes.
Josie and trying Asuka.
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>>182602342
Asuka
She's the best looking and none of the other characters really interested me.
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This game is so rewarding to learn, spent hours yesterday going through the popular characters and learning what common attacks are launchable. Today been doing really good in ranked and noticing all sorts of things I didn't before.

Also pretty close to being able to do this.
>>
>Ling apparently has a launcher where she dashes from half the screen
oh alright
>>
How many frames is a parry? Like could you conceivably react to a jab?
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>>182603802
depends on the parry
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Is Feng low iq? His combo execution is so easy, and his b+3+4 makes whiff punishing much easier, should I learn another character or just stick with this dude?
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How the fuck does frame trapping work in this game when throws are a gimmick that just end your offense? Your opponent has 0 reasons to press buttons.
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>>182602342
Lars
Too low IQ for Raven
Raven/Gigas
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i dont like fighting against leo
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>>182602342
Gigas
Cause I beat lacari as pic related
I got jack 7 to brawler but I need to play someone like Josie or Dragunov to counter the dudes at FGC who main feng, bryan, and kings/kazumis.
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>>182604419
good character choice bruv
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>>182604419
Good shit dude, made me chuckle
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>>182604043
Out of her KNK stance
90% of the time people will go for a low
However it's still a 50/50

Crouch dash is also a 50/50 but it doesn't track

Her launcher after BOK takes eons you can hopkick it

1,2,4 which goes h,h,l is often used

Leo doesn't have good long range pokes

Command throw is a normal 1+2 break
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>>182603897
I was thinking about it and I realized that it comes down to them expecting something interruptible and trying to interrupt it but it instead you do something that isn't interruptible and fuck 'em up for trying
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God damn it. My friends can't beat me. I can't grow like this. But I don't want to engage in disgusting quickplay communities. How do you drag yourself back into it after making the kinds of complaints I see here? It hardly seems worth playing.
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>>182604689
thanks, it's matter of recognizing the moves for what they are now.
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>>182603897
every character has lots of mids and lows to work with, it's impossible to just block everything. If your opponent doesn't press a button and try to do something he gets poked to death

it's not like say Street Fighter where you can just hold down back and stand up only to block the one overhead your opponent has
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>>182605237
forgot to say BOK cruches high
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>>182603897
>>182604795
Not completely sure what you are asking but just thought I'd share that most throws are 12 frames and most jabs are 10 frames. If expecting a throw interrupt it with a jab or duck.
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>>182602342
Xiaoyu
I always love playing tricky characters with lots of movement options and stances. Lei isn't in this game.
I've been getting into law because I think he's damn cool and he's good. I don't like to play bad characters
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>>182605394
Well, he was asking why a frame trap can work in tekken and I gave him a reason

I am >>182604795
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>>182602342
My main? for me it would have to be Yoshi, He is literally me, Intelligent, nihilistic, with a wicked sense of humor

My secondary would be Gigass
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHIgWPo8nXY
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>>182606070
tag2 music was awful
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>>182606070

I actually replaced T7 customization music with this. T7's sounded too much like porn music.
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>>182602342
Josie
Easy to play, 10/10 cute if you ignore the crying gimmick and the bow
None
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>>182606429

Most of it was, yeah. But the Online lobby, Customization and the Heavenly Garden stage were really great.
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>>182606839
i dont get why people dislike the bow, its small and cute. its nit like its some dopey huge kawaii uguu bow like in the customisation options
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>>182602707

I'd say Asuka's f2 is, but I guess it really is unsafe as fuck.
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all the king players are on tonight, rip my promotion chances. at least im breaking GS and SW more often now.
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>>182606978
I personally find bow or ribbons on a grown woman silly. Josie is pretty tall, so that makes it extra silly.
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>>182605961
Yoshimitsu nihilistic? Doesn't he always have some lore of stealing from the rich and giving to the poor?

If you use the word nihilistic but don't know what it means you are a pseudo-intellectual. In which case you should play Asuka.
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I hate RA's. Shitpost all you want, but the fact of the matter is that it was only implemented to appeal to retards who aren't good enough to get through a match with their own skill so they need to rely on the mechanics to hold their hands like the babies they are.

Bamco is gradually, but very clearly, abandoning the original Tekken fans in favor of the Street Fighter audience.
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>>182591417
what's Bob play like, anon? i thought he looked goofy so i wanted to pick him up.
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>win first game
>lose the second

>lose first game
>win the second

>get matched with the one guy who played T6 and tag2 for 10 years
>lose both games

Yellow ranks are hell, send me back to green
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are there launchers faster than 15 frames?
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>>182608378
josie dragunov
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>Play against a Kazuya with 100% EWGF accuracy.

So this is the power of PC...
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>>182608378
EGFW
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>>182607948
I barely use my RA anymore but there are moments where I'm like "I could have just used my RA there, that retard was mashing" and then I wish I used it.
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>>182608378

Electrics are i14. Kaz's Perfect Electric is i13.
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>>182607948

>Bamco is gradually, but very clearly, abandoning the original Tekken fans in favor of the Street Fighter audience.

When was the last time you played original Tekken eh? Have you any god damn idea just how much Tekken has changed over the years? There is always new shit being added, experimented ideas or stuff removed because it didn't quite work. Stop talking shit about abandoning Tekken fans, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Tekken PS4 NA anyone? East coast preferred but if the connection is good we can play
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>>182608559
>>182607948
What is an RA? I'm new and don't see it in this thing -
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
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There is zero point playing Bryan over Dragunov. Bryan takes a risk every time he moves.
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>play gigas
>get tired of getting launched after 1 tiny mistake or input error
>switch to katarina
>easy as fuck damage and don't need to think
Why did I stick with that shitty char for so long my god. I had to work so much harder than every opponent
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>>182609031
Rising Anger
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can someone redpill me on bob? is he still as good as he was in tag 2 or is he not really worth playing anymore?
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>>182609281
t. blue ranked gigas

>I know your pain brother.
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>>182607948

Rage Arts are good, and cool.
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>>182609294
you

>>182609031
Rage Art, like super in Street Fighter
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>>182609394
He still does a shitton of damage for no reason with a great 50/50 game and jailing moves.
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>>182609439
I was grandmaster before I stopped playing ranked so you're right. I wanted to practice beating green ranks but it just felt so random and volatile every match that it seemed like I was not improving. Feels bad man
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>Finally have a promotion match to get from Vanguard to Warrior
>it's against a Vanquisher with a 12-match win streak
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>>182609540
>for no reason

He mastered Speed and Weightâ„¢
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>>182609540
is he not picked more because people in T7 just do what he does better or is he just underplayed because he's not like he was in T6?
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>>182609540
>>182609782
>>182609790
looking to pick up bob, is he good for newer players who haven't really touched a tekken game before?
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>>182609394
He's still good and fun but he was nerfed somewhat.
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tfw u think you might be able to make a comeback but you fuck it up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3UnhprgCc warning extreme scrubbery inside
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>>182609989
Yes. He's a fine starting character.

>>182609790
Underplayed and unpopular.
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>>182588336
I fucking hate this game but for some reason I don't want to quit. I haven't even played it in a week but I still come here from time to team to see if I'll get the urge to dump hours of my time into it

I won't, idk why I come here
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>>182610243
what's his gameplan? crazy rushdown with speed and weight or like a more methodical poke based game?
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>>182610408
Poking and fishing for counterhits. Mixing up hellsweep and safe mids.
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>>182610503
i could get into that. if he's actually good despite being underplayed i definitely could see myself really sitting down and getting good with him. make a guide for all the nice folks here in /tekgen/
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>>182605004
it isn't worth playing. This game is a time drain for people with nothing better to do. At least play a fun game.

The only reason I play it is because noticing myself improving keeps me sane, as I'm going through a kinda rough time right now.
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Does anyone want to make an NA PC lobby?
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>>182611126
Make an NA PS4 one
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>>182611224
Sorry, I can't; I'm mainly on PC right now.
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>>182610878
I've been planning on doing that for a while. This should do until then.

http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=132581
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>>182605961

Gouki

Because he's got fun flashy combos

I would guess Asuka
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How do I get good at Jin?

He's my favorite character because he's depressed and so am I!

I've never played tekken since 2 and I was a kid then.
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>>182602342
2 mains, Yoshi and Drag. I like Yoshi's stances and his design, and Drag's design is dope as well.

Subs are maybe Kazuya and Paul. Idk, I don't play enough to have subs.
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How to improve my Alisa mixup game? I feel like I'm very predictable and it's biting me in the ass now that I'm a little into greens.
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>>182608378
>tfw no standing 15 frame launcher
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>>182578150
> not seeing losing as a chance to improve
You're the type of person who likes to play games against literal children so you can win, aren't you?
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>>182602342
Jin because he's handsome
Secondary Master Raven because I want her to sit on my face.
Also King because I want to sit on his face
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQkPb5sTPxY
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>>182612040
awesome.

do you think Bob is actually one of the better characters that's just unexplored and as the game goes on he'll come back into the fold or is he more of a solid mid tier?
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Tekken is a hard game
Also what's up with people who taunt after the round and stomp on you or tea bag and stuff?
Like if I win I'm just gonna winquit you dude. People go out of their way to try and tilt you in this game. It's stressful enough, none of that is needed.
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I'm only first dan and I'm playing an unga spam strings meme character. When I face a similar character it comes down to whoever's strings beats whose. How do I improve
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>>182614132
if it triggers you so much buy the mirror
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>>182613987
I think he's probably upper mid tier with really good damage. He's not going to hold you back but he's no Leo or Dragunov.
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>>182614132
>getting tilted with after round shenanigans
hehe nuthin personnel kid
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>>182613968
Nina always had awesome themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2CQ3HEcBbc
I miss character themes desu
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>>182614175
spam launchers and armour
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>>182614132
Don't be such a faggot
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I hate Ranked. I keep telling myself that I won't play Ranked again and will only use Player match from now on, but I always come back to Ranked. There's just something so much more exiting about putting your title on the line and moving up the ladder to prove your worth against opponents of varying skill levels. Player match can only hold my interest for so long.

Despite that, it's also much more fucking stressful, because when I lose I'm inching closer to losing my current title. And when I do, it genuinely enrages me like nothing else. It's like I'm a junkie now, I'm addicted to something I absolutely hate and while the highs are fucking amazing, the lows are soul crushing and make it not worth the hassle.

Somebody please, put me out of my misery.
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>>182614217
That's fine by me. I was looking for a character to start the game on and Bob is both ridiculous and has high damage, which I'm a fan of. I was getting tired of Jack.
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>>182613003
use 2, 1 a lot
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>>182614423
Who's your main?
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>>182614209
>>182614302
>>182614405
I guess I'm just past the age where I think it's funny or 'cool'. I don't wanna watch your hour long outro/intro either.
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>>182614423
uninstall, play something else for a while, then when you're in a calm mental state install it and see if you feel the same way when you open up the game.
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>>182583850
Jeondding will get to top 8. EVO line up isn't even as stacked as RevMajor. Most of the americans in that tournament are shit, the only good one is Anakin.
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>>182614423
I am in exactly the same position as you, pretty sure I've damaged my keyboard after my 7th loss in a row to a Snake Edge spamming Bryan but fuck it makes me feel ALIVE
I'm going to keep torturing myself
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>>182614340
Launchers are kinda useless cause I drop combos but I'll try to find my armor move
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>>182614793
Nope. Screencap this.
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>>182608548
Here's my go to mix ups
B1, into fc, 1+2
B1, into uf 1+2 command grab
B1, into df, 1+2

I also use b1 to end rounds because most people expect a low

You can also use d3 into df grab If you delay it or d3, ss,d3,ss,d3.

When you condition people to crouch every time you foward crouch that's when you want to start using strings that lead into mids, grabs, or her uf3,2 string and hop kick.
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>>182614664
Kazuya
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>Pre-release console version of T7.
>Fated Retribution gets announced, and Akuma is revealed.
>Turns out he's pretty good in the game, demonstrated by Poongko's placement in Top 8 of EVO 2016, even though he isn't a Tekken player.
>Expect he'll bring in alot of SF players that will exclusively play only Akuma.
>Never ran into any Akuma players on ranked yet with 140 matches.

What happened.
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>>182613575
>>182614979
I'm retarded and (you) the wrong anon

Also remember to use db3 often and different attacks to mix up with that
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>>182607948
but the fact of the matter is that it was only implemented to appeal to retards who aren't good enough to get through a match with their own skill
I agree w RA's being no skill trash but they're clearly put in to make SF/Akuma players feel more at home. Putting Akuma in this game was a mistake. He added nothing to the story and just made the game have to be more like SF in order to cater to the larger fanbase.
Akuma is likely the sole reason we have RA's, armor moves, and a simplified throw-break system on normal throws. I'd put money on him being the reason they changed the combo system as well.
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>>182614132
i mostly keep attacking to stay warm
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>>182615132
he got nerfed
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>>182607948
The actual reason that RA's are bad are that they turn the match into a turtlefest once someone enters rage, and they can be unfairly tacked on to the end of juggles. It's frustrating to get RA'd near the end of a match, but it's your own fault if you get hit by it.
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>>182590330
Use the trainer, unlock everything, no need to play with dump CPUs
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>>182615187
Difference is that in most games it's not as unforgiving when you get comboed. In Tekken, a good combo means you're going straight to the wall, and from there you're taking more damage and you're stuck with 50/50s until you get out.
Tekken needed a comeback mechanic to relieve some of the pressure.
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>>182616179
No it didn't.
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>>182615834
I am traumitized from ever downloading trainers again since I got malware from russia
>>182616219
Yea, it did. Keep pressing buttons retard lmaooo
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>>182616219
Stay mad dude. Adapt.
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SHHHHH
EEEYAA
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>green Alisa
>all he does is spamming that goofy ass low launcher even though I counter it with butterfly edge every time
I wonder how this kind of people get out of blue rank.
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>>182616219
>>182616346
Go watch any Tekken 5 or 6 tournament. You were rarely at the wall.
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>>182616381
based drag
looking forward to learning this character and playing millions of mirror matches
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I will literally never play against Steve. Honestly the cheapest character in the entire game and pure fucking unga. If you play Steve you're as bad as a paul player.
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>>182616436
You mean her snake edge?
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>>182614754
And moved right into the age where you're a pissy whiny bitch? Lmao very bent cry baby
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>>182616860
I don't mind playing against him but steve players in denial about unga status are just lol
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>>182616860
you are trash. stop making excuses
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>>182615132
Most people play Tekken to play Tekken rather than Street Fighter
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>>182616608
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>>182617163
Stop playing brain dead characters you fucking shitter
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>>182616860
Just side step or duck his jab strings and spam your tracking moves so they get punished from their side step strings he also doesn't have good lows you just suck tbqh
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>>182614808
You know what will really make you feel alive? when you read that fucking snake edge and fucking orbital him before he even does it
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>>182617228
neck yourself
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>>182616927
Yeah that's it. I didn't know the name of that move.
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>>182617228
Dude shut the fuck up.
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>playing feng against literally any other character
>Do a thousand pokes, 10 Punishes, 1 Throw
>Enemy is now at 50% HP
>Get launched once
>Im now at 25% HP
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>>182615187
The roster reduction, system streamlining and new features were a direct response to the fact Tekken had become impenetrable and everybody except grognards were walking away from it. Tekken was beginning to fail.

TTT2 arrived with such a damp thud among everybody but the devoted hardcore that they had to turn off it's online features and servers less than a year after it's release
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>get hit by RA even though I was blocking thanks to opponents connection going from 4 bars to 2 bars
>does 50% of my health and kills me
No thanks, quit so fucking hard. Faggots trying to cheat to get wins.
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>>182617717
>getting launched
You deserve to get all that damage.
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>>182617951
but ttt2 still has online? so does tekken 6
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>unga bunga lili players
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>>182617717

nothing personnel kid
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>>182618145
They have their basic matchmaking, everything else got shut down
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>>182617717
fengs basic whiff punish launcher from f3,4 does 73 damage without the wall m8 and it's piss easy to execute. feng has access to big damage when you bait them into whiffing some dumb shit.
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>>182617717
if you're not getting your guaranteed shoulders you're fucking up
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>>182617717
Learn combos and stop just pushing buttons in neutral.
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When I get wall splattered. What's the safest way to get up from the ground? I always get caught by faggots doing cheap tricks and I can never get out
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>mfw every second match is SHH EEYA cyka blyat
this is getting fucking boring
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>>182617717

Feng legitimately has some of the easiest combos in the game and they hit like a truck. Gone are the days when Feng's combos sucked.
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>>182613921
Great taste.
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>>182617717
keep it down stoner
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Why do people say law is unga? He's fairly unsafe
Is it because they have grandpa reflexes and get hit by sweep and junkyard combo?
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I think Steve might actually be pretty mediocre in this game - especially at higher levels.
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How the fuck do you beat lucky Chloe?
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>>182620262
The reward for mastering him is definitely not worth the effort unless you really fucking like boxers
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>>182620326
One two!
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>>182618753

Tech roll, or side roll on the ground.
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>>182620326
Block her dance
Don't get hit when she backturns
Congrats, you've won
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>every single chloe I've played against today refused to skip her intro
who started this meme
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how hard is yoshimitsu, execution wise? i'm willing to bite the bullet on his massive movelist but i don't know if i can take on both.
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>>182620552
Me hehe :=)
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>>182620552
You pick a character, you want to enjoy them. I don't skip Katarina's lick opening. I NEVER skip intros during runbacks with people I don't respect.

>>182620634
Play Raven instead.
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>>182620684
why Raven instead?
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>>182620552
I never, ever skip it.
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>>182620684
>with people I don't respect
What does this even mean you god damn salt lord?
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>Asuka's jabs don't combo
why?
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>>182620684
>>182620767
I was mostly looking at Yoshimitsu because of all the crazy stuff he has.
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does katarina have an armor move
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>>182620767
>>182620990
She's got similar dumb ninja gimmicks, trickier-than-normal movesets, and higher than normal execution. The difference being she does a ton more damage, and I feel like she has better lows as well. Harder to dickjab into irrelevance. t.person who tried to secondary both

>>182620802
The people who go for that fifth Snake Edge after I've blocked and launched the previous four. Or who make sure to use their rage art once a round. Gotta make sure they really feel it. I wait until the last second to accept the revenge match and never skip intros/victory animations.

>>182621018
f3+4
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>>182620552
>every single chloe I've played against today refused to skip her intro
>3-0 them
>revenge match
>they skip her intro

lmao.
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>>182620684
how do i earn your respect anon sama
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>>182621193
I thought f3+4 was just tracking nice
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>>182621193
alright cool. i'll take a look at raven but this is my first tekken and higher execution sounds rough when my execution is already shaky in this game.
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>>182621294
If I remember right, her armor kick looks really similar to one of her other kicks, you might be thinking of that one
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>>182621390
Just play Yoshi if you want to play Yoshi. He's really not that hard and most of the learning will be his oki. Compared to Raven, you'll be better off in the long run learning Yoshi.
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>>182621193
>i arbitrarily decide rules about how other people are allowed to fight me and when they break them i waste their time on purpose

wow you sound like a real tough guy
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>>182621520
i don't mind learning oki at all compared to just flat execution. why would i be better off learning him over Raven, long term?
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You see this shit? Fucking stop. Cancerous fucking FUCKS
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>>182621390
The difficulty mostly comes from cancelling your crouch dash. Don't quote me on it, but I believe you do db/b to stop the animation to get access to your WR launcher 1/CH launcher 2 and more importantly her Full Crouch df3+4,4 which is a sicknasty flipperooni. Once you get used to that you can do the same sort of high/low mixup that Law has, where they have to guess between eating a launcher or getting swept.

>>182621520
Why would he be better off learning a harder and worse character?

>>182621543
Just trying to teach, anon. Gotta make sure they pay attention.
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>>182597524
No you're not.
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>>182621619
I don't see that shit at all, anon
too washed out
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>>182621619
?
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>>182621223
yeah because you're just showing off your costume, they've seen it already by the revenge match you doof
>>
Is ducking on wake up a bad idea?
>>
>>182621543
what are everyone's arbitrary rules guys?

mine is, if they use an item in the first 20 second of the match, i just lay on the floor until it's over
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>>182621992
Items are for putting on the ground after you win a round.
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>>182621614
Raven is going to spill you to be honest. A LOT of Raven's game is in her ff3, BT shenanigans for less damage. Yoshi has a tool for every situation and gives you way more options to create openings compared to Raven. Raven is better, don't get me wrong but after a while, you'll probably hit a ceiling for Raven when people stop falling for the standard shit that Raven kinda has to settle with while Yoshi will better teach you have to make the shit happen.

Really depends what you want and why you wanted to play Yoshi in the first place.
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>>182621865
That makes no sense. I'm going to see the costume for the whole match. No one but Chloe players do this. I don't do it when I've just made some waifu shit.

They're just being autistic and then mad for the revenge match.
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>>182621992
I don't have any. It's just a fucking video game.
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>side stepping a rage drive for the win
muh dick
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>>182621992
Not really a rule but in general if you start hitting me after the round or taunting me, you better hope I don't win. Because not only am I going to stomp taunt you, I'm letting my outro play out, and I'm going to winquit you on top of it. You'll never get a match from me again either because I'm writing your name down.
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>>182621972

Yes, but everyone ducks online on wake-up because they're scared of lows for some reason.

Just take the lows, it's better than eating a mid launcher.
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>>182622426
That's autistic.
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>>182622103
i wanted to play Yoshi because i like the idea of having a massive bag of tricks that i can pull from but i have to be solid with what i use in each situation so my good reads and guesses are rewarded. i usually play big body heavy hitting characters and that isn't in this game, so i default onto weird tricky characters and that's what Yoshi looks like to me. my main problem is execution because this is the first 3D game I've played since Fate/unlimited Codes and that was basically a 2D game.

i also just like Yoshimitsu as a character. i absolute hate soul calibur and all of my lame friends liked it and whenever they made me play it with them i would pick Yoshimitsu and blow out the nerd playing Siegfried, feels good. Also I think this octo-Yoshi look in Tekken 7 is real dope.

that being said I also think Master Raven looks sick as fuck so it's more of former as to why i want to play Yoshi, less of the latter.
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>>182622560
What if it's a low launcher?
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>>182622720

Unless you are being repeatedly hellswept by Jin on wake-up, still don't block low.

You can solve that problem by not teching anyway.
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>>182622657
But does Yoshi have tits or a rich chocolate ass?
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>>182622426
youd better be writing it in a death note faget because im going to change my steam name and d+2 you in the face every round
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>>182621992
>>182622086
>me and opponent don't want to approach each other because of shitty lag
>opponent starts using long range items and rocket punches
>I dick around trying to dodge them and jumping off walls
Sometimes you just need to say screw the rules and make your own fun.
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>>182622657
Well, that's exactly what Yoshi is. Don't let the execution scare you away from him. He's really not all that difficult. If anything, you'll just be overwhelmed by the amount of potential and choke in a match until you go to training mode and pick situations you like to be in and setting it up.
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>some expert ranked kazuya can somehow pull of his ewgf perfectly throughout an entire match
Nice macro my friend.
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>>182622851
>tumblr
>rich chocolate ass

I hate this person. Raven isn't even attractive compared to all of the other women.
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>>182622851
i mean that's the thing, right? Master Raven is this hot middle aged black lady who's also this ridiculous Metal Gear Rising assassin.

>>182622948
I mean I've been playing like Bob and shit up until now so it'll be a bit of a jump. Do you have any Yoshi experience you can pass down?

Also what's up with 1+4? It's supposed to be a launcher but when I do it it doesn't hit. Is it a CH only move or something?
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>>182598796
Give Jaycee's move list (a lot of the new moves were actually pretty fun) but at the very least, give the original T6 costume as an alternative costume, I don't want to see just the Jaycee mask in tournament. I hated it.
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>>182623048
I searched "master raven" and found the first gif with tits I could find. Would you rather me rename the file to some dumb non-joke to try and uphold my Thread Cred? And you're obviously blind, have you seen those exposed hips? C'mon now.

>>182623093
From what I understand, it's both a speedy quick (like, 6 or 7 frames?) CH fishing tool and in special cases when you're not off-axis it can be used in combos too.
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>>182623093
1+4 is an actual attack that comes out in 6 frames so Yoshimitsu can punish a lot of shit every other character can't.

Start here to build up your yoshi.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h_wVVg7l1aUPy0sh-3gTl5sOf2IUFthrgO9VispyL_w/edit

Then get your BnBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJCmlugOD6Y&feature=youtu.be

Then strategy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJCmlugOD6Y&feature=youtu.be

It's really important that you start small with 1 or 2 setups to keep Yoshi's obnoxious pressure game going but when you get working on it, it's a ton of fun to make people respect you.
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>>182620262
He is mediocre, CH fishing as a main source of damage is far from reliable at high level. Steve might be strong in theory - if you're playing long sets, but he's far from consistent in online boa5 match format, since you don't really have time to condition people.
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>have to think about which strings i can use and how to counter my opponent with my incredibly situational punishes
>shaheen can just fucking spam the same kick-jab combo 3 times in a row and put me on the floor missing half my HP
>he can then proceed to run at me and use one of three kicks that hit either low or mid
>all of which look exactly the same
>one of which puts my back on the ground
>one of which starts a full juggle to lose the other 25 percent of my hp i have left after he's whittled me down to with his stupid sandy feet

I hate this game, I hate these characters, and most importantly I hate myself for not practicing this game when i started w T3

Who part of /teamangry/ here
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>>182623048
>Raven isn't even attractive compared to all of the other women.
maybe if you're low test
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>>182623446
Oops, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM3-mo6sjKo&list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n&index=27 That for combos.

Just try to have 1 for each situation. You don't have to worry about all 3 of them.
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>>182623446
Ok awesome, thank you so much.

No i understand that 1+4 is a super fast attack and a big part of Yoshi's game, my thing is I was in training mode and doing it right in Heihachi's face and it flat out wasn't hitting.
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>>182623405
>Would you rather me rename the file to some dumb non-joke to try and uphold my Thread Cred?

Yes. We can't be friends anymore now. Fool.

>>182623550
Get that weak shit outta here.
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>>182623450

Conditioning doesn't even really work if your opponent has his head on straight. In earlier versions of T7, ext dck pressure was really scary but they removed all of his advantageous ways to transition into it.
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>>182622851
Yoshi is not a nigger, that's right
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>>182623704

>doing it right in Heihachi's face and it flat out wasn't hitting.

It's used to interrupt enemy attacks when their hitbox is closer to your body. It can also be used off certain launchers. Doing it in neutral won't work.
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>>182602342
Kazumi
Fun, simple and cute!
None
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>>182623554
Ok cool I was going to ask if you had combo notation for the video you linked twice. Thanks again, this is monstrously helpful in getting me off my ass to learn a character I thought was out of my reach.
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>>182623780
>I said the nigger word guys!
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>>182602342
Bryan.
I don't know. I hate playing him.
Kazumi.
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>>182623458
this game makes me mad as fuck but i always keep playing
i thought i broke my stick a couple nights ago but i just somehow smacked a wire out of place and it blocked the joystick
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>>182623917
Good luck. Tekken is hard!
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>>182602342
Xiaoyu
Because being slippery and having infuriating oki setups are fun
Yoshimitsu, Miguel, Josie
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>>182624058
It really, really is. I had an easier time with Heritage for the Future than I did with this game.

Thanks again for the help, I'm kinda embarrassed that I was just spamming flash for like three minutes and wondering why it wasn't doing shit.
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>>182602342
Jin because I like to autistically practice electrics and wave dashing but I don't want to play a mishima
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>>182624171
Oh, if you played Jojo's, you'll be fine. That's one of my favorite games.
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>>182623741
Yeah there's that, easily interruptable if the opponent knows what is going on. And then even if you scare someone with CHs enough to make them eat an ext dck f+2, dck f+2 they just call you unga and dodge
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>>182599760
I want to dive into her tiny cleavage
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>>182624270
same, but i played horse and horse is super easy.
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>>182602342
alisa, i like the way she takes off her head, and that her fighting stance is with her hands down, because she doesn't need to protect her head, i like little things like that, i also find her play style quite straight forward, but a bit spicy if you want to fuck with someone

i tried asuka and lili too, asuka is easier to win with but a bit cheap, lili's combos don't do much damage unless there's a wall but she has a lot of good moves so you get lots of opportunities (i might also just not know good combos for her)
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Why is Law always placed so high on tier lists?
I never see him in high level play and he just seems like a scrub killer.

What makes him so good?
>>
Guys for real what the fuck does honest and dishonest mean? I sweareveryone says that like it means something but i cant recall aris ever saying the word.
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>>182624515
>a bit cheap
Entire post disregarded
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>>182624689
What? Rip is THE high level Law player.
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>>182624790
just frame james was a top law player in TTT2 as well
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>>182624736
Nothing at all. Don't worry about it and just play Tekken and keep it down will ya?
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>>182624785
you mean she's very cheap or not cheap or i should embrace cheapness or what? lol
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do you know what's the worst type of person to play against on Tekken that aren't Alisa/Eliza/Leo players? it's people who don't skip their god damn intros
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>>182624736
>honest
my main
>dishonest
characters I lose to
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>>182624882
~burps directly into mic~
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I'm definitely getting better. Im getting a bunch of characters up to brawler fairly easily now. I'm getting better at reading opponents, sometimes. But my movement is God awful. I never side step, and when I try it doesn't work half the time, and sometimes I get so flustered I don't know what else to do than hold back.
Anyone have some tips for movements? Should I be trying to move around like a spaz?
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>>182624983
>Alisa
lmao kid
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>>182625357
i think like maybe you could play player matches and then try to basically just move, and react to your opponent. so like don't just side step, side step and punish, back dash and whiff punish etc. but focus on the movement part, if you're lucky you can probably fight the same guy 20 times or something and you'll get a good idea if it's working.
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I'm new

How do I escape pressure? I try to KBD away from pressure but I'm always stuck in block stun.
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>>182626162
Honestly just holding back or attempting to KBD will get you out against most charaters for the rest.

Otherwise all you can do is learn to block or side step their + on block attacks.

For any attack that's - on block just dick punch or basic jab string.

Trust me if you're actually NEW anything more advance is just gonna end with your losing more.

Also who's your main
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>>182626270
Bryan.

I feel like I'm just getting jabbed endlessly until I get caught by a low.
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>>182626162
Depends on the pressure.

For the most part, if your opponent does a string and you block it, they're minus so you can at least jab check them or do a quick mid like most characters down/forward+1.

If they're doing jab pressure on you or other high moves, duck that shit and punish.

If they're continuing pressure after a plus move like Dragunov WR2, you can KBD or the probably safer option of continuing to block until you get advantage.
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>>182626364
>Bryan
>new
>KBD
>you
don't bother, just do b,B
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>>182626364
Ah

If they're doing a neutral jab you can honestly just jab right back sure you'll take damage but there should be a pause long enough for you to gain distance.

If they're doing a d/f 1 you can try doing a low your self or a quick jab combo.
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>>182626364
>>182626162
Also learn your power crush.

It's kinda shitty (if I'm thinking of the right move) BUT chances are your opponent is also a scrub and won't know to low.
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>>182624225
Same desu and the fact that I can't stand looking at DJ
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>play a long set with a random, go even with them
>they message you afterwards saying GGs and complimenting you

is there a better feeling
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>>182626565
His PC is a high unfortunately.

>>182626427
I can KBD with Bryan reliably enough in training, I just need to learn to apply it in matches.
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>>182626654
webm it
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I can barely understand what King Jae is saying. Is this normal?
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>>182626729
Why?
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>>182626743
If I'm bein' onest yeah bruv it is.
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>>182626654
just stair step, its way easier
t. nina main
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>>182626889
That's just sidestep canceling right? Is it even useful?
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>>182626949
>>182626949
>>182626949
New Thread
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>>182626962
i mean, its not much slower when you get used to it. definitely beats accidentally backswaying
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>>182602342
hwoarang. in tag 2 i only played him on a side team with jin since that was my tekken tag 1 team as a kid just mashing through arcade mode. since i was trying to compete in tag 2, i instead mained jdcr's team since he was and is my favorite player. but now i feel like i have to play hwoarang. i always loved everything about him. all of his character themes, taekwondo, goggles and now the eyepatch, cocky attitude, korean pretty boy. but he was very confusing to grasp being new to competitive side of tekken, so i'm more or less starting now.

i also feel like having such a good, strong rushdown character is great for me as a generally patient and defensive player. hwo has so many options on offense that i can be in complete control of, which means i can play any kind of offense i want and condition my opponent much better, and being patient means i will take those small pokes and short pressure strings and then reset to neutral where i feel comfy, having gained information and maybe some damage.

my best sub chars by a large margin are heihachi and shaheen. but i also play m raven, drag, steve, and bryan.
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>>182623450
i still think he has great oki (worse than king or xiaoyu but about the same as m raven) and wall game (not bryan-or heihachi tier, but right below). he has great wall carry in this game and better overall conversions. like b+2 is now a real launcher, and his orbital punch is a rewarding low crush instead of relying on uf+1 or the old really shitty animation in tag 2.

i think he's ok in tournament settings because of how hard he can maul someone and reliably whiff punish with f+1+2,2 in addition to sonic fang. idk watching the korean steve players and playing him on the side myself, i can't really see this character being mediocre or worse.

i think at a high level it's his inability to launch -15 and -16 standing and -15 to -17 crouching that holds him back, though, and you have to make up for that with really good pressure/reads using the frame advantage or knockdown to make the punishers in between really worth it. or even just punish with a mixup. but that sucks at a high level because free damage rarely presents itself, so you need to take all you can get.
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Leo is male cannon technically because yoshimitsu calls Leo a he in 7. Tekken tag 2 isn't canon
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>>182603664
Holy shit I want to do that
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