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= NEWS =
>1.03 patch notes
http://tekkengamer.com/2017/07/04/ps4-tekken-7-patch-ver-1-03-launched-japan-regions-soon-follow/
>Ultimate Tekken Bowl trailer
https://youtu.be/-BaJENh1Irs

= BASIC INFORMATION =
>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Fergus' character overviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame data for every character
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 moves for all characters
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
>T7 Character Information Compilation
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q

= TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS =
>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
>Korean Backdash Cancel (KBD)
https://youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94
>Button Buffering
https://youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8
>Options at the wall
https://youtu.be/2SW7kCmA23o
>How to get off the ground
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
>Low parrying
https://youtu.be/SF2wBESs01U
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://youtu.be/xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on pad
https://youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU
>Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
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>>182519341
Not only was this one first, but it has Eliza in it. Going with this one, lads.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_gW_Yf6iJc
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>>182519565
why do you keep posting the same 2 webms?
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>>182519862
To hammer home a point.
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>>182519643
This is embarrassing. You're not proving a point. The game is probably better off without you playing it. You didn't even punish his rage art. What the fuck is wrong with you.
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*jabs you 3 times in a row from half screen*
What do you do about this lads?
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>>182520107
sidestep
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>>182519862
He only won 2 matches since release
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>>182520210
damn, ok I'll make sure to filter him then
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>>182520202
*Hits you with d/b+2, clipping you as you step*
Now what?
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>>182519643
Couldn't watch it past 30 seconds, retard on the left is letting King press his -12 moves over and over again
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>>182520335
if d/b2 is the move i think it is it wouldnt reach after 3 jabs
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>>182519643
This is embarrassing to watch. Especially at the end where the Ling player could have BTFO the King player after that blocked RA.
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>>182520037
>>182520715
>>182521379
tekken is basically hand slap game meets a bunch of frame rate data. What's seriously the appeal? Is this like a brain training game for unemployed people? Hand slap for the modern age? LOL

apparently you aren't paying attention to reddit, there are a bunch of noobs like myself who have been complaining and deleting their account because the game sucks shit. I was super anticipating Tekken, but I think it's the worst game I've played all year, and honestly one of my all time least favorite games. I enjoyed Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter, Street Fighter, and Guilty Gear, but this game sucks shit. I can't think of another game that's been worse than Tekken 7 for me.

Tekken is pure muscle memory and memorizing boring crap. It's seriously one of the worst games I've ever played.
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>>182521449
>copypasted from a YouTube comment on the video
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I love Eliza!
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>>182521449
We've read this pasta, like, four threads ago. (You).
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>>182521449
>I enjoyed Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter, Street Fighter, and Guilty Gear

I think he is lying about this. He would have at least had better reaction time on that blocked rage art if he put any amount of time into those games. He would have also had a better feel for attack ranges and would not have been whiffing every other attack.
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they need to fucking nerf Paul's damage
this fucking nigger does too much damage with just 1 combo (doesn't even need CH)
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>>182521842
Go on...
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PS4 Asia Lobby?
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>>182522150
>Asia
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>691 win
>grand master
lmao
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>>182522486
Lucifer?
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>steve can unga you to death and has 1 button side steps for retards
>Paul can just get 1 unreactable sweep and just rape your health
>all of Leo's moves are safe as fuck and you have to quickly ss if you actually want to get damage on him
>bears have a fucked up hitbox and do an absurd amount of damage
>Alisa is literally a retarded machine that can do whatever she wants and fly/chainsaw you and win
>Asuka is so broken, she can do a safe 10 frame string that forces you into a crouching state than instantly hopkick you for a free launcher combo
>the worst part is these are all low iq characters that any retard can pick up and play
I fucking hate this god damn game. I'm just going to turn on my trainer against these niggers
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>>182522286
?
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Isn't aris a Tekken commentator?
Has he been commentating anything recently?
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>>182522590
>>Asuka is so broken
Here's your >(you)
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>>182523039
This is a very good gif.
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>>182522590
Sounds like you're pretty bad
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>Nin and kkokkma at WNF
Someone's gotta stop Nin so they don't end up having a Korean grand final at their local.
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>>182522590
>Asuka is so broken
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>>182523031
He's mentioned a few times that he's only doing minimal commentary at EVO, definitely not Top 8/finals
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Asuka buff when?
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>>182523039

me irl
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>>182523206
>sounds like you're pretty

:)

bad

:(
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>>182523458
she's already top tier in korea
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>>182523039
I love to kill people with her 2,4 just to see her panties during the KO
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>it's a paul vs paul episode
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>>182522590

>Steve
>low IQ

Hmmmmm
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>really want to main Law
>know I'm going to be hated and have no runbacks with anyone
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>>182522590
>>Asuka is so broken, she can do a safe 10 frame string that forces you into a crouching state than instantly hopkick you for a free launcher combo

Which string
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>want to try to get good with Lili
>find out I'm useless without gimmicky, long-reach characters like Gigas and Kuma

how do I fix this
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>>182524679
it's the only way
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>>182524679
df+3+4
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>>182524679
lili's got those stupid flips that cover the entire screen
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Is Yoshimitsu really that hard or is he just whacky in neutral?
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does everyone in Tekken have the same backdash and forward dash speeds and distance?
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>>182519565
SAME SHIT ALL THE TIME
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>>182525361
no, they vary
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>>182525047
He's difficult because he isn't very good
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>>182525361
no, sidesteps vary aswell
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>>182519565
Stop posting here you stupid nigger
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>>182525440
>>182525527
how about movement speed (holding back/forward) and health values?
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>>182522590
>steve can unga
Only if you're a mashing retard who keeps getting caught by CHs, stop baiting me with this stupid shit
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>>182525669
i believe everyone has the same amount of health, 180 or 160?
not sure about walkspeed/runspeed
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Lucky Chloe fanart
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>>182525735
You should've stopped reading as soon as you saw the word unga anon. That's what I've been doing
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>>182525453
What makes him so bad
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>>182526424
he's got a lot of tools, but they're strictly lesser versions of other people's tools. Worse frames, worse damage, worse crushing, that type of thing.
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>>182526569

I really don't believe this is true in T7 at all.

Yoshi also hits like a fucking freight train in T7.
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>>182526424
A ton of tight execution for ~55 damage combos, gimmicky tools that even scrubs can beat by dashing and hitting buttons, footsie game is lacking and he doesn't have any real setups like Kat's 112 into CH df4 (because it's +7 on block). But if you like him, play him, it's better than playing someone you don't enjoy.
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>>182526674
Why even ask of you're going to shrug it off and make shit up?
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>>182520107
Really really really good character bruv if im bein honest
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>>182525863
170 health for everyone
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>>182526674
Raven hits like a freight train with her rageless 90+ damage wall carry combos or optimized 75 damage infinite stage ones. Or Katarina getting 65 damage from, literally, uf44, ff4, 444f, 4. Or Paul, doing Paul things. I just don't think Yoshi has the kind of neutral game to win a tournament, even if Knee or whoever played him.
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>>182526746
That's not me anon ;-; I understand why he's considered ba
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>>182526746

>Why even ask of you're going to shrug it off and make shit up?

I'm not that guy and I've played Yoshi for over a decade. He is better in this game than he has been for years. Easily a solid mid-tier.

Koreans will never play him because he is completely antithetical to their style.
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>>182522590
>having problems against bears
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>>182527863
>I have an incredible bias and will make things up with no evidence
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>>182528108

Why the fuck would I be biased towards saying my main character is better than commonly assumed?
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>>182528349
>why would I be biased
>my main character
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WAN TU

TEHE
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bruv...
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>>182529205
Thank you king jae
From your tips I have ascended beyond a normal shitter gigas and into semi shitter territory
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>>182529205
Is he /ourguy/?
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>>182529481
/ourbruv/
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So i play Josie and Akuma, and noone likes fighting me. Who do I plauly that's honest?
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>>182530165
Paul
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>>182530165
Jin.
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>>182530195
>all high damage sweeps are reactable
>paul's isn't
good job harada
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>>182530165
Yoshimitsu
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>tfw will never be able to pull this off again ever
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>>182530373
That was sick
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>>182530165
arab bob
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>>182530165
Lars
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>>182530165
What's wrong with Josie?
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>>182530724
most unga character in the game
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If your entire Kazuya gameplan is jab mashing with the occasional random """optimistic"" df2 (and of course never going for the pewgf combo if you actually land it), then nothing but wavedashing towards them with hellsweep/axekicks when theyre on the ground (because in your head you think this is a real 50/50);
Switch to Kazumi

If you actually use Kazuya's uf4444 more than once in a blue moon;
Switch to Katarina.

If your Steve offense is almost entirely trying to roll cancel every single move (and probably going for the extended duck 2 unblockable almost every single time);
Switch to Shaheen

If your Steve offense is almost entirely b1 into FLK string mashing, and you actually use backsway moves regularly because you saw it in a slowmo twitch clip highlight reel(bonus: with random df1+2s and the only low you actually use is df2 because at your level this is "unseeable");
Switch to Josie


They made characters for people like you. You won't fool any real players by calling "yourself" honest when all you're doing is trying to play these characters as dishonest as possible while impeding your learning speed of the game and making yourself look like a douche in the process.
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>>182531000
Get ready to fly faggot
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>>182530694
>>182530667
>>182530269
>>182530228
>>182530195
Thanks for the suggestions.
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>>182530373
that was pretty awesome
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>>182530165
Akuma is fine as long you don't just throw fire balls while running away the entire match.
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Guys I think I'm fucking up some real basic input shit. I can't get Law's d,3+4,4 (low kick into somersault) to work.

I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I always get the low kick to work correctly but then no matter how hard I mash I can't flip.

Am I supposed to wait until a specific part of the animation?
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>>182530373
E X E R R E N T
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>>182530373

>Chloe trying to do her back-turned launcher into the 95 damage retard combo

Every fucking time.
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>>182531512
It's d+3+4,4. There's no special timing or anything. I would not use this move unless you make a hard read that you're going to CH.
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1 Drag
2 Leo
3 Xiaoyu
4 Kazumi
5 Alisa
6 Bob
7 Miguel
8 Bryan
9 Josie
0 Devil Jin
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So is Tekken 7 bad about reading inputs for CPU players?

Or am I just watching a retarded manbaby who blames his piss poor skills against Akuma on mechanics that hardly affect the game?
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Bruv, he forget his hat bruv he a madbruv

https://twitter.com/ItsJustinNelson/status/885418437438169089
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>>182531676
The only way she can deal damage.
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ELIZA IS CUTE
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>>182531778
Yeah I checked frames and just the animation itself I can tell it's shit, but it's bugging me that I can't get it down.

Although I was trying to see if it could be used to catch a low altitude juggle or wall splat.
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What's a good secondary character for a scrub who mains King? I don't want people dodging me in ranked.
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>>182532431
miguel
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>>182532431
Not a king main, but that's my favorite rage art
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Is Raven gud in T7? I used to really play man Raven a bit in TTT2 but I didn't play for long and all I did was spam ff3 because it was satisfying
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>>182532512
I love his design but his kit feels awkward to use. I might stick with him longer to see how he plays out.
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>>182532431

I'm playing Feng and Steve as secondaries. A little bit of Heihachi too.
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I swear people are just seeing my name and avoiding me in ranked now.
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>>182532512
>>182532673
Miguel is fucking weird to punish for some reason. His moves have hitstun for so much longer than I expect
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>>182531778
law is my highest ranked character for some reason bil, thinking about taking him up full time and becoming the premier law player in tekgen Tbh
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Steve is in the bottom 10 worst of this game and is only good in meme theories. Will likely never win a major solo as people who play him frequently swap him to the bench, and even fightingspirit himself says not to main him as "only pain come from this character".
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>>182531009
But aren't dishonest characters what the pro's use?
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>>182533082
Is he harder to play than Xiaoyu?
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Where would Miguel fall on the tier list? I don't care about being SSS, but I don't want to play Lucky Chloe or Gigas either.
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>>182533208
Tier don't matter if you're good enough.

Also A
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>>182533208
He's all right
SSS against people who don't know about savage stance
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>>182531986
Gigas hype unbound let's go
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>>182533193
xiaoyu is steve if steve was top tier
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Paul rapes niggers to death and is the savior of the white race, the most powerful aryan in tekken lore
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>>182533442
Isn't Steve the most powerful aryan?
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>>182533082

I actually agree with you. Steve is really overhyped and kind of one dimensional.
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>>182533442
>Went from top tier character to too scared to fight Feng 2v1 with Law

At least Law grew complacent and slacked off when he became rich, what the fuck happened to Paul.
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>>182533208
he isn't on any gook lists because he wasn't in arcade version so he's kinda unexplored
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>>182533441
That's what they say about Yoshi, does that mean Steve is Yoshi if Yoshi was mid-high tier?
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>>182533367
Thanks. I'm not good enough, and this way at least I know I'm not wasting the time put in the character.
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>>182533589
Why is Yoshi so weak.

Is he genuinely THE character who needs a BUFF?
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>>182533082
Speedkicks had a similar opinion. He loves the character, but "there's no reason for anyone to get hit by any of his moves", or something along those lines. I've been labbing Steve for the past 2 weeks, and i can kinda see what he's talking about.
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>>182533545
Got old
Probably suffered a bunch of motorcycle incidents
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>>182533673

How to beat Steve:

>don't mash

There, you've beaten Steve. He has no way to open you up unless you get hit by his ext dck 2, but that's only going to happen if you're in a coma.
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>>182533967
Which move is the one where he's crouched spinning around left and right and can do a low 2 that seems to launch?
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Can anyone explain why I am punished for beating someone higher rank than me?
I lose to a guy on his promotion match which puts him one dan over me and then even if I win the revenge match I lose when it comes to rank points.
I don't understand this, please explain.
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>>182533649
Weak footsies, weak approach, weak pressure, almost no real setups without launching first and giving up some of your already mediocre damage to try to make your opponent do something stupid getting off the ground. For reference his generic launcher damage is one of if not the lowest in the game at 56 without a wall.

His saving grace is flash and opponents not knowing your wakeup setups but if you launched them they've already been outplayed and other characters would just grab the damage straight up instead of launch + tip to get the same amount in.
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>>182534371
Was yoshi stronger in TTT2? I used to really like him in that but he seems shit in T7
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>>182534240

Albatross stance or the extended version of albatross. The low doesn't launch.

Steve has one low launcher which only launches on CH and is exclusive to his peekaboo stance.
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>>182534341
The system looks to stabilize ranks as much as possible. It'd work better if there was a bigger amount of people though, so more people in each rank.
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>>182534240
That his Albatross spin. The input is 3+4 into d+2, or d+1 if he cancels it into the second spin. But it doesn't launch, Steve has no low launchers. The closest thing is PAB d+2, but that works only on CH and it's i29, which is even slower than snake edge.
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>>182534520
>>182534436
I should've said knockdown rather than launch. It may only do that on CH as well because it seems to CH me all day when I try to hit him out of spinning like a retard.
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>>182534456

I demoted a guy from Warrior to Marauder over the course of numerous matches with a secondary blue rank character.

I gained one rank. The ranking system is horseshit.
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>>182534574
I beat a guy and then had a demotion match against him in the revenge match.
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>>182534574
He couldn't have lost more than one rank if you've only gained one.
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>>182524473
>want to main drag
>know people will see me as a tierwhore
>don't want to play against another drag 50% of the time
shame he's so cool
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>>182535191
who gives a fuck what people think
90 games and I haven't encountered one dragunov online yet
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>>182535191
Play Bryan/Paul instead
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>>182531981
cpu reads most of your inputs, the only real way to consistenly beat the cpu is to block/sidestep and punish.
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>>182533442
I thnk you meant Dragunov
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>>182531981
You can beat the AI at any level by just spamming the same move over and over
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>>182535282
bryan is even more overplayed, granted most of them suck ass but same goes for cyka blyat
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>>182522590
I get this bizarre feeling you're a Katarina/Josie/Bryan user.
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>>182535610
I think he was joking
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>>182535191
just drag irl like the faggot you are
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>>182535653
I've seen a single paul in over 90 battles

nothing but waifus, bryan and king in eu
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>practise a lot
>learn useful moves, improve my movement, work on ability to read other players
>still get BTFO by players online
>only because I haven't studied all the characters movesets and have trouble blocking mixups

there's so much to learn in this game, holy shit. It's quite disheartening at times but I refuse to give up.
Sometimes I wonder if the effort I put into this game is even worth it. Anybody else feel the same?
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>>182535650
I would bet on Katarina or Hwo
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>>182530373
Stylish as fuck.
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How does one get efficient with king?

What mainline combos should I know, and what are some moves which I can end with a ground command grab?

What are some good /fa/ choices for this motherfucker
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>>182535732
a lot of people in lower ranks use the same shit over and over so you only have to learn a small bit for each character you come across.
i still get fucked hard by steve because i dont know when im safe to press a button but none of them use stances much so it shouldnt take long to learn how to fight him
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>>182535781
learn how to convert into damage with your gay kicks
learn your 10 hit combo
learn how to RDC

enjoy your free yellow rank
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>>182530373
lee is based as fuck. Shame his combos are so weak without a wall. I'm interested in learning him eventually.
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>>182535727
no fucking way I see pauls almost as much as kings on pc/eu
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>Play well on main
>Completely helpless on any other character
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>>182535842
Yeah, I noticed I've been improving gradually, but I came across a Lili and had absolutely no clue what the fuck was going on. Got my shit pushed in.
It was one of the rare times I almost uninstalled the game on Steam. Very rarely do games get me so upset, but whatever. Next time I'll know what to watch out for.
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>>182535878
I'm serious

I'm scared because I know I'll get my shit pushed in when I actually have to fight a half decent paul
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>>182535903
I'm literally only good with Yoshi. All other characters feel like I'm playing a completely different game.
>feels strange, but notbadman
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>>182536061
do you just flowchart everyone from 100% to 0?
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Tournament up on PC/eu

Name: Tourney
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>>182536132
get a job neet scum
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why do people act like having to learn matchups is exclusive to tekken?

even in fucking sfv you'd get fucked up for not knowing how to deal with particular moves or characters
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>>182535859
That's what I initially thought. Eventually I found combos that would deal 60-70+ which are pretty average even without a wall. You have to abuse the shit out of b+2 loops to WR 2,4 though.
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>>182536219
Just play Guile and zone all day, you dont have to know shit
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>>182536219
sf characters are usually more clear-cut, even if you lose to one you can go into training and easily replicate what you lost to because the movelists are tiny

if you lose to some shit in tekken and go into practice you first have to find out which moves you even lost to because it's definitely not clear

and that goes for every single character. in 2d games you can often just kind of wing it but if you don't have character knowledge in this game you will get fucked guaranteed
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>>182536108
Sometimes I do. I mostly like to fuck around with stances, play footsies, and poke/punish though.
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>>182536391
woah you have to spend 2 more minutes looking for the move or string you lost to, absolutely unacceptable
5 minutes if it's more than one, someone call the police

>in 2d games
in 2d games that aren't braindead shit like GG you'd get smoked so fast you wouldn't even understand what happened or how to deal with it unlike tekken where you just have to block and find the right button to punish
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>>182536320
neat, I'll keep that in mind for sure. Gonna practice around a bit more with him tomorrow, gotta refine my Drag & Yoshi game a bit first though.
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>Paul's low launcher where he uses his fist pushes you back so far you can't punish it

Simply epic
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>whole day in ranked
Orange here I come
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>>182536620
paul is basically zero risk all reward
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>>182536498
it's still considerably more effort, which is why people say learning matchups is a bigger deal in tekken than it is in some other games
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>>182536620
Can't you hopkick him out of it since the it ain't that fast? Or alternatively, just parry
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>>182536808
I can't even react to it
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>>182536936
That comes with experience. Grind it out man.
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I play Kazuya and Nina, is M.Raven fun?
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>>182536730
it's literally not

sf4, one of the most casual and popular fighting games had almost 50 fucking characters you had to learn and nobody complained about that, people are incredibly whiny over tekken matchups
>but matchups weren't as important
l o l
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>>182537091
they weren't
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>>182537126
oh yeah? go fight a rolento for the first time
or hakan
or juri
or poison
or t.hawk
or yun
or yang
or a flippy akuma
or adon
or gouken
or claw
or boxer
or elena
or fuerte

I could keep going til I mention the entire fucking cast
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>>182536808
doesn't he have a mid mixup?
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>>182537323
you can sit on juri, gouken, claw, boxer all game and they can't do shit and it doesn't even matter what they do
the only thing you need to know about fuerte is that you need to jump away diagonally
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How hard is to play Lee with online delay? I wanna learn him but everyone I know tells me I will never pull off the b2~f loops online.
I really wanna be EXCELLENT though.
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>>182537091
Nothing in SF4 is as gay as a King or Hwoarang

Not even Zangief
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>>182537373
Yeah but that comes out faster than the low one.
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>>182537431
It's hard as fuck, not gonna lie faam. A lot of the time I just avoid b2 heavy juggles.
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>>182537441
I can give you King, but Hwo is fun to play against.
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>>182536498
You sound like you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Also, most 2d fighting game doesn't have at least 20 gimmicky or obscure moves in their 100+ movesets. Fighting games are hard in general, but Tekken's difficulty comes from not only mechanical skills required from knowing and executing your character, but also a decent amount of knowledge about the matchup and enemy gameplan. You can't just cookie cutter dp fireball against every character in the game and hope to win.
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>>182537410
the kind of player who complains about spending 5 minutes to learn a character in training mode sure as fuck can't sit still for an entire match without getting opened up and oki'd to death, and it's not like they know they should play defensive against them anyway
and fuerte's press slaps you out of the air unless you jump preemptively, then you're just giving him free damage if he realizes you're just jumping away every time
you're going off track, point is none of that is apparent and you need experience

>>182537441
I'll give you hworang, but king loses most of his gimmicks once you read up on his throw breaks
the rest is actually reacting to his bullshit and minimizing risks

>>182537593
you sound like the only 2d game you've played in your entire life is street fighter
shut the fuck up
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>>182537514
Damn, I struggled for hours and couldn't even pull a double loop consistently.
Guess I'll just pick up Feng.
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>>182519341
Her legs, holy fuck.
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I'm new to gighting games, after a week of online play with Feng I got to Brawler, I wanna try another character now, suggestions of characters who complement Feng?
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>>182537754
jin
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>>182537663
Holy shit you sound like such an ass faggot. Go play 2d fighters then because that's where you belong. MVC/Mortal Kombat and KoF is that way.
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>>182537754
I'm a Feng main aswell and i've been playing Jin
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>>182537795
you're actually fucking retarded, holy shit
I love tekken, that's why I'm telling the crybabies to stop complaining about moves they don't know how to deal with because they can't be fucked to open training mode for 10 minutes like they would in any other fighting game

grow a brain a learn how to read you stupid fucking shit
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>>182537781
>>182537873
Well the answers seem pretty consensual, thanks guys.
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>>182537902
The issue is that it isn't usually just "one move" that people have issues with. You basically have to learn every character's entire move list, be able to recognize what they are doing, and be able to react to it properly. I have seen good players lose rounds or matches to stupid shit like 10 hit King strings just because they didn't have them memorized and know where the openings were.

That before you even get into stupid shit like side-stepping and tracking or button specific throw breaking.
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>>182533551
>jerks dragunov 100% of finals
Yeah sounds just right.
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>>182538483
He wins with Jack though.
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>>182537441
Can't blame Hwoarang. Jin is a potential bear. Have you seen his bod? Also has a pretty face which is a plus for homos, I guess. Not that I would know.
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Is parry into guaranteed hit the most stylish way to kill someone?
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>>182537724
If you're on PC, it's easier to do the loops if you time it the peak of his mist step, or the lowest duck, if you will. That usually lets you juggle for another b+2. On console though, you really have to grind it out in Practice mode until you have it down by muscle memory.
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You make excuses for your losses. Stop it. Stop the "woulda shoulda coulda" and analyze why you actually lost. You lost, figure out why and adjust. Losing is important. You learn far more from a loss than bodying someone 3-0. It's less fun at times, but it is far more valuable.
You make imaginary rules that aren't in the game. I've seen this alot here. This is scrub mentality. Juggles are not cheap, it's a core mechanic and you suck. Snake edge is not cheap, it's reactable and slow as hell. The first sign of a scrub is someone who makes imaginary criteria on what is cheap and what is skillful. You don't get to make that call, largely because you are a scrub. If you find yourself complaining about someone doing something over and over, or say they are "spamming" then you should have adjusted and that is what you need to work on.
You think you are better than you are. This is common in online competitive games. I read posts of people saying they "lose to scrubs". I absolutely understand what you are saying, but if you lost and they suck, then that says something about your play that match, doesn't it?
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>>182539071
Hey uh whats with the 200 word essay? Keep it down will ya
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>be PC version of Tekken 7
>from 20k online to 3k online in one month
>from perfect 5 bars to 3 bars 90% of the time tops in one month
>from 10 seconds in a lobby finding match to 10 minutes in a lobby and having to use matchlist and constantly refresh it to find at least someone without "connection lost" error
I am not buying any Namco garbage ever again.
I know they are delaying patches on purpose due to console agreements and they don't give a fuck the game is practically dead already.
I got deranked from 14 dan to 10 dan just because 3 bar faggots mash me down and I can't block anything due to a delay even if I see and react to it properly.
Fuck Harada and fuck this game.
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>>182539071
I don't suck just because I guessed wrong against some 80 IQ unpredictable Paul subhuman
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>>182539071
>tfw Tekken taught me the most enjoyable and fruitful way for me to study than more than a decade of education

I honestly find it fun rewatching my matches and me pinpointing where I'm lacking or learning what matchups shit on me, and then hitting practice mode the day after before I do actual matches. Shit's tight, and I can definitely see some improvements.
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>>182539190
>he cares about rank
You brought it on yourself. If you just played for fun, you could be having fun instead.
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only 2 weeks until I return to terrorize silver ranks
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How much life do we actually have?

150 right?
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>>182539645
170
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don't talk to me, stoner, you're spilling bong water all over the chat
thanks for the dollarydoos by the way, I'm gonna smoke a cigarette and go to big dinner after this, EAT SHIT BIIIIITCH
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>>182540402
somebody shoot this stoner xd
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Capo niggers deserve nothing but death
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>>182540562
if you struggle against capos, you deserve it.
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>>182535781
If you're not cosplaying Okada with King, you're doing something wrong.
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>>182540680
>Mashes 3 and 4 crushing all your attacks

Nah piss off
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>>182540712
surefire way to not get another match from me ever again
king is obnoxious enough on his own, I don't need tiny capes and fucked up cloth physics covering everything on top of it
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>>182540737
keep your distance and capos have fuck all
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friendly reminder that you only lose to unga if you're new or bad
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We all know Tekken in a long run is not good for you. What other games do you play to relax?

I play mostly snk games on fightcade and stuff on ps2 I have around. For example ffx-2 and prince of persia are what I am focusing on now.
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how do you know if King is doing Giant Swing, since it has the animation of a 1+2 grab?
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>>182541114
Just guess right.
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>>182541075
Crypt of the Necrodancer. The new DLC is super fun.
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>>182541114
If he's swinging you around. :^)
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>>182541114
you don't :)

you can tech roll to minimize damage by hittin 1+2 as you're hitting the ground
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>>182541075
"I'll resub to FFXIV and only play it when I need to unwind a little." I said as I stepped off the precipice and started to fall into the endless hole.
"This is fine." I said to myself as i watched the light above me fade to a pinprick in the distance. "I'll get back into Tekken as soon as Harada releases Eliza."
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>>182541036
>you only lose to unga if you're new
No shit. That's literally what people are complaining about.
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>>182541036
I just rekt 2 Pauls and an Eddie. In the progress I made it to blue ranks.

Do I have hope when it comes to Tekken. I play the most honest of em all, Heyhachi
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If you're not 16 Dan you're bad
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Having trouble EWGF on pad?

I used to think that in order to input of the (d/f+2) i need to slide my thumb from d to d+f, but found out that is not the optimal input.

Check the down button on the pad.
You can make it so you dont have to glide your thumb to do the d/f part of the move.

Instead, push the down after neutral, and push the down button to the right, without touching forward.

I did not know that is possible and the tutorial people dont seem to know this either.
It needs a bit of practice to get the new feel and you will see the consistency increase.
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>>182541663
So if someone boosts to 16th Dan, they would be better than a pro who only played player matches?
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which tekken girl do you think does the stinkiest farts haha just wondering cos it's a funny thought not because id sniff them
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>>182541790
haha Josie haha
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>>182541790
Eliza probably still smells of the basement she's been in for 1000 years
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>>182541759
I know what you're trying to spin this to

Generally speaking an attractive guy gets a girl
Generally speaking 16 Dan (not boosted) is good at tekken

U don't need to make obscure posts about boosting and player matches etc. If a pro where to play u can make orange in Less than a 100 games
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>>182541790
Lili may look all high class and proper but she farts like a mexican man after chili

haha..
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>will only main a man
>want to main someone honest
>want to main someone good but not unga and cheap
>want to main someone easy to play
who should i play?
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>>182541906
I am just pointing out that online ranks are not indicative of real skill. If you want to claim to be good then place top 16 (minimum) in a major tournament.
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>>182541923
do you think she holds them in all day so nobody can hear or smell them and then lets go when shes alone in her bedroom haha lol
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>>182542039
>not unga and cheap
>easy
can't have both
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>>182541790
Back to /fgg/ and /feg/ wth you.
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wheres eliza harada you hack
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>>182542039
King or Law
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Having a high rank doesn't mean you're good but if you're good you can get a high rank.
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>>182542104
I wish it would just not show anythng at all instead of hiding them but ill take what I can get
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>>182541075
>>182541158
>>182541239
FUCK OFF
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>>182542157
you mean not show the stubs? just get some 4chan x branch
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>>182542046
>I am just pointing out that online ranks are not indicative of real skill

Did u see the leaderboards? They're mostly tournament players or known high level players
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>>182542149
>king
>not unga
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>>182542263
Correlation != Causation
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>tfw using Eliza at EVO
>no training for people who didn't preorder
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>>182542263
what rank is the highest rank?
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>>182542451
>evo
>giant fundraiser to give a fat fuck a taxcut
>played on the laggiest system because the fgc is property of sony now
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>>182542451
is she good though? i've only fought a few and they were easy, but they probably sucked so idk, her command grab is sexy though
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rage arts are an utterly shite mechanic and only serve as a panic button for trash players
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I wish I was a korean robot instead of human, this game is only fun when i'm performing at my absolute best and thats random every day
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>>182542568
t. Someone who just got baited into eating a Rage Art
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>>182542572
don't be racist you fuck
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>>182542707
desu they're kinda retarded. rage drives already exist as combo extenders so what's the point of rage arts
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>>182542728
Koreans are not humans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6gFSo_EVoA
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>>182542568
Then why did you lose to it?

>>182542740
Beating idiots.
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>>182542707
It's not bait or good play at all. They just push it and hope for the best while invincible.
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>>182542360
So u think the players at the top of the leaderboards are not good?

Do u think the players at the top aren't tournament players?

Do u think didn't rank up by understanding Tekken? Instead that they just played player matches cuz muh rank?

If u search for Koreans play tekken why is it they are always ranked games?
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>>182542812
It's not invincible though
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>>182542850
It may as well be if it takes priority over your attacks.
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>>182542740
It forces the one without rage to play passively because if your hit by that RA it can turn the tables around
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>>182542843
Stay in snapchat if all you do is reply to tripfags.
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>>182542843
Nice strawman fallacy, but I never implied any of that.
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>>182543023
I'm not saying u implied anything I'm just asking questions
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>>182542850
It is invincible to grabs and armors everything else. Most of the time you can use it just like an invincible move.
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Is there a character that requires less thought to play than Dragunov?
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>>182542740

Not every rage drive is good in the game anon. Feng's rage drive is pretty fucking bad.
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>>182543124
Then my answer never changed.

>Correlation != Causation

>>182542850
This.

>>182542934
No, it just forces you to play smart.

>>182543161
If they have low health you can just smash right through the armor and kill them.
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>>182542850
it might as well be
it only matters if you're literally 1 hit away from death
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>>182543275
Consider learning the game, I love playing against a good Dragunov.
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learning asuka as my 2nd character, she's fun as fuck and she's got a cute voice. Anyone know a good 10 frame punish with her, her jab fucking blows
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>>182543275
paul, leo, josie
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>>182543403
Try 1 then 1+2.
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>>182543403

1 is your only 10 frame punish, enjoy!
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>>182543275
Paul
Josie
Claudio
Hwo
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10 strings piss me off, I shouldnt have to learn this for the one 70 IQ asshole who might try it
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>>182543465
d/f 1, 4 should work too, IIRC.
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>>182543442
sounds like a good option since 1+2 is safe on block, thanks!
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>>182543349
Spotted the autistic russian.
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>>182533967
I have a hard time understanding this. What's so bad about the low where he steps on your foot and knocks you down? It's unseeable, knocks down, and does a decent chunk of damage. If Steve has a good low that can knock you down, what makes the character so bad on top of fishing for counter hits?
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>>182543637
It should be a frame trap too.

1 is +9 on hit
1+2 has a start up of 16 to 17, and it is safe on block.
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>>182543606

df+1 is 13 frames

Anyways asuka is pretty bad when it comes to punishing. Almost as bad as Gigas is.
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>>182543969
Gigas has one of the best jab punishers in the game though
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>>182543754
The range on it is really bad, he's gotta be right in your face to use it
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>>182543969
I know. I usually go for crush moves or parries instead.
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>>182544037
it's not like steve has a hard time getting in, with all the wave dashing and stance cancel bullshit
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>>182542039
You're describing Kazumi.
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>mfw losing to jack strings i know nothing about
>mfw thats all of them
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>>182542039
Jack
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>>182542039
Play Miguel
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How come I only realised now how cool Kazumi's playstyle is, also she is pretty cute for a gilf.

Do you think she, or someone with her moveset will appear in Tekken 8?
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Looking for Kibernetik from the tekgen tournament.

Anyone have his Steam profile by chance?
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>>182542039
Stop using buzzwords and main whoever you like.
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>>182544557
Kazumi is too cool not to be included in future Tekkens, but I think the next game will be Tekken x Street Fighter
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>>182544604
>but I think the next game will be Tekken x Street Fighter
Hasn't that been shelved for a while now?
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>>182544409
You need to be point blank for it to hit, and a decent player won't let Steve get in for free. Wavedashing memes only work if you can condition the opponent to not interrupt your duck with some fast mid poke like d/f+1, and that's not easy to do in a bo5 match.
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>josie
>josie
>king
>josie
>paul
>paul
>king
>josie
>katarina
>josie
loads of variety in ranked Tbh
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>>182545073
>Game provides characters that require no effort to do incredibly high damage with
>Surprised when people only play them instead of character that require learning
I fucking hate Josie so much.
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>>182545073
What rank are you?
Barely seen any josie recently.

Lots of kings tho, i dont get how one can have fun just grabbing around the entire match.
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>>182544469
>>182544538
These
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Hey guys, quick question: what about this game is better or worse than Tekken Tag Tournament 2?
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>>182545420
Movement.
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>>182545420
Everything is better except input lag, no replays, and no online practice mode
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>>182545420
Better
>less characters
>Rage Drives are cool

Worse
>less characters
>content/game modes
>customization
>Rage Arts
>input lag
>no replay
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how long does it take to become proficient at breaking throws?

I've gotten to the point where I can kind of recognize that a throw is about to happen and react in time, but fuck me if I can see what arm is coming at me in that same space.
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any tips for KBDing consistently with a sway character on pad?

also play zombie robot
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>>182545420
It's casual as fuck compared to TTT2, that was brutal to learn.
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>>182545527
>>182545620
Thanks

>>182545493
Could you explain?
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>>182545527
>no time attack
>no survival
>no team battle
>utterly shit customization
>no decals
>no replays
>babby hand holding
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>>182545671
Play the robit
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>warrior not even with my main
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>>182545689
Sidestep is weaker than before so the game is more 2D
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>>182545620
If we don't count the clones I don't think there's that much difference in roster size though. Depends of course what you count as a clone though.
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>>182546004
That's why I put it in both. Being clones or not, the little differences between them contribute to the fact that TTT2 was a bitch to learn.

Although it was nice having all those options.
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>>182541114
If his back is against the wall then chances are it's GS
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>>182546271
To be honest, Tekken needs to be made more internally generic.
>>
Is Heihacih low IQ? He hits like a fucking truck and doesn't actually need to use EWGF
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>>182546639
What do you mean?
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>>182545772
Do people REALLY care about those game modes?

I actually think the customization is better than tag2. It has all the tag 2 shit plus more character specifics
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>>182546651
Medium IQ
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>>182545289
yeah I saw a shitload of josies around release but not that many anymore
now I only see pauls and kings
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>>182546651
At least he is honest.
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>>182544650
It's on hold until people get tired of T7 and SF5
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>>182546723
>doesn't have a plain t-shirt with no logos
>doesn't have a plain t-shirt that actually fits properly
gr8 customization
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>>182546723
Less hair options and the lack of decals are my main complaints.
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>>182545289

>Lots of kings tho, i dont get how one can have fun just grabbing around the entire match.

King has one of the largest moves in the game. He has tons of variety, although most of his throws are useless against decent opponents.
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>>182546683
I mean something similar to SC where vertical moves don't track and horizontal moves track to both sides, and so on. It doesn't need to be that black and white, but I am just using that as an example.

The point is, you didn't need to memorize the other character's moveset to know how to effectively respond to it since the responses are more universal. It makes it easier for new players to get into the game.
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>>182546957

Move lists*
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Post your IQ tier lists
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>>182547127
High IQ: Me
Low IQ: You
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>>182547127
>high iq:
honest characters
>low iq:
dishonest characters
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>>182547127
high
lee

low
josie, paul, lili, katarina, chloe
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>>182547127
high iq
>people who don't take these things seriously

low iq
>people who take these things seriously
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>tell myself one last match before bed
>its a smurf playing kuma
uh next match will be the last i guess
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>>182547052
At this point I think Tekken has evolved into such a convoluted, legacy/knowledge/lab-heavy game that attempts at making it more beginner friendly are doomed either to be half-assed or mangling the game so badly it isn't Tekken anymore. I'd rather wish there would come an entirely new 3D fighting game franchise that would be more friendly for beginners or Soul Calibur would return.
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>King player that knows every single one of his moves
It doesn't do you much good if you just throw them out randomly and I keep getting to juggle you
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post your wins and ranks

>110 wins and 3rd dan
feels bad
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>>182547507
I think they can fix it by just standardizing what is already there. For example, working on the tracking crap.
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>>182547843
>0 wins and beginner
Quick match is fun :)
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this should be in the OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGHIpohTvU
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>>182547957
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>>182547957
thought it was a Nina chart at first, Im dumb
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>>182548031
add bears
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>combo that never drops the 1000 times I've used it randomly just fucking drops when they have 10hp left costing me the game
>of course he win quits
unreal
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>>182547843
>260 wins
>was Fighter
>now Brawler
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>>182547843
>11 wins
>mentor
feels shitty playing in SEA without any people desu
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How do you guys deal with the fact that no matter how much you train you never become better and you can only beat people who either just bought the game or are high as fuck, while even remotely decents players, as in: someone who doesn't throw super unsafe shit all day long, fuck you up so hard that you wanna kill yourself irl?
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>>182539330
How do you rewatch your matches? Shadowplay or something?
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>>182548168
dumb eceleb kid
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>>182547843
with my main
>38 wins
>brawler
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>>182547843
>350 wins
>almost got promoted to warrior once but choked
>grand master right now
Fucking kill me forever
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>>182548138
That's why I usually go for combos without super tight timings instead. 5 less damage is a small price to pay for never dropping the combo.
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>>182548563
dumb "dumb x" poster
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>>182547843
>215 wins
>was fighter
>now marauder
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>>182548031
me
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>>182547843
>60 wins
>maradeur with my main
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>>182548696
Show your rank.
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Im starting to learn how to KBD, but sometimes I accidently return to neutral before I do the dash cancel, so I end up getting hit while backdashing. What kind of move string should I KBD against in practice mode to break the habit? Something fast or something that can cover a good distance?
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>>182549070
bryan's 1-2-1
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Tekken is literally the most frustrating game I've ever played. It doesn't help that my game barely runs at 60 fps so I actually get one sided lag
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>>182548464
I train
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>>182549051
No, thanks.
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>>182547843
I think I'm doing fairly decent.
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>>182548687
>yoshi
>was vanquisher
>deranked down to gm
Tell me about it.
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>>182548696

>implying Asuka has any hard combos
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>>182549812
this didn't happen
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Don't lie to me, yall are Alisa and Leo playing frauds
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Is the PC online really that dead? I have to wait at least 5 minutes to find an opponent and most of the the times it's super low rank players.
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>>182549953
Are you using match list?
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>>182539364
Yeah it is so funny to lose in lags, keep ignoring my whole post.
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>>182549994
Warm-up. Match list has been worse, can't even find opponent for shit.
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>>182549926

fuck I've been found out, I swear I've only been trying her out
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>>182550039
I read the whole post.
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>>182549926
I'm sorry. I'm a fucking newfag and Josie is the most intuitive to play.
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>>182550056
I'm sure you have a better chance of finding someone by refreshing match list a few times than just by sitting in warm-up. Also, what region? I get plenty of people in EU at yellow ranks. Changing your download region might help, if you haven't tried already.
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>>182547843
106 wins
Vindicator
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>>182550290
>feeling the need to apologize to /tekgen/ for your character choice
stop
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>>182549863
I never implied that at all.
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>>182550459
South East Asia. I did change the download region, but no luck so far.

It's really frustrating, I just want to get rekt online and learn something.
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Katarina hits so hard for little effort
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>>182550747
>SEA
Well, the game doesn't look particularly big there on PC.
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>3+ connections only
>game offers 1 bar connections
why
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>Everyone knows how to backdash cancel and wavedash
>Cant block a d4 for their lives
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>>182551552
>cant block an unseeable low
hmmm
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>>182547957
If I just mash 1, 2 and 1+2 randomly, would it work on everything, or wrong button input somehow blocks the right one? Or I have only 1 chance to press 1 button and then it is decided?
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Is PC ever going to get any patches other than the stupid customization patch
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>>182549583
>Leo
UNGA BOOGA, fucking nigger.
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>>182551783
if you know the break then MASH it. If you press the wrong break then you goofed. 3 out of 5 of King's chain grabs are a 1 break so it's a safe bet when you initially get grabbed. 1+2 is a safe bet for your second attempt if you don't break it by then. because those lead into RDC and King's bridge which are what every King tries to get to 90% of the time.
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>>182551783
>wrong button input somehow blocks the right one
This. Can only pick one option, but you can mash it.
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>>182548031
Since when Youshimitsu is cancer tier?
He is slow, obvious and punishable as fuck.
His 50/50 out of stances are so fucking slow you can just react to them.
His 10 strings are punishable by ducking for like first 7 hits.
He has no fast strings with lows in them, except for slowest leg spinning ones.
He has no strings which start with a low except WS out of sweep which is full combo punishable.

I don't get it, please explain. There is literally nothing cheap in Yoshi, you just got rekt by him or what?
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>>182551783

Wrong break blocks the right one. However, you get multiple attempts for chain throws.
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>>182551552
>>182551761
>d4
Which character nigger? It doesn't mean anything if nobody knows what character you're on about
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>>182552016
He is played by dumb memers who can't do anything else, all his shit is confusing as fuck, when he suddenly teleports or starts spinning or fucking flying you just get confused, not to mention his dumb fucking unblockable spin attack at the wall
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>>182552016
Yoshi is all memes, lots of options to stances with even more options that aren't always clear

That is why he has drawbacks, cause if he was fast and had constant new tricks that were all plus you'd be fucked
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>>182537593
>Tekken so hard and complex
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>>182550747
SEA is mostly console users for dedicated players.
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>playing vs dragunov
>eat a ch WR2? full kahmbo for huge damage that has been dumbed down for all the unga retards that can't iWS4
>block dragunov's WR2
>eat a cheap NCC string that deals huge damage and knocks down/leads to a kahmbo
>decide to keep blocking next time
>either have to deal with victor throws or the other command grab or another fucking WR2
Why do SerGAY FAGunov players insist on being the biggest cunts in T7? Nothing compares to this dumb fuckin autist of a character.

>easy to learn
>advanced shit like instant running not needed because of nerfed sidestep
>crouch dash cancel not needed for huge damage thanks to the screw system and rage drives
The list is endless
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>>182552528
It is compared to most tbf.
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>>182552840
>eat a cheap NCC string that deals huge damage and knocks down/leads to a kahmbo
which string is that?
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>>182552528
Tekken is the sweet middle ground between braindead fighters like SF and overcomplicated autist tier anime fighters with too many variables
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>>182552840
>kahmbo
>Kah


KA
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so many fuckin bryans online
im so bored of snake edge
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>>182537593
i'm going to guess the only other fighting game you've played is sfv so you don't really know what you're talking about.
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>>182552840

Instant running moves are so easy in this game compared to earlier Tekkens. iWR 2 for Drag seems exceptionally easy for some reason.
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>practice a combo for hours on one side
>finally learn to do it consistently
>switch sides
>can't do it at all, it's like learning an entirely new combo
>takes hours again, finally learn to do it
>switch sides
>can't do it on that side anymore
>repeat ad infinitum

ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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>>182553048
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I'm trying to look as Anime as possible
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>>182553323
>playing a execution heavy character when you are a shitter
give up on such notions and embrace memes
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>>182553384
get the flame coat and put on some glasses
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So I just fought a 300W king who was on his promo and for 80% of the game he just spammed his annoying low chain. I wasn't even mad, I just gave him the win, revenged him and gave him another set of wins. If he wants to fight better players so badly, then so be it.
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>>182552975
>CH 121 is NCC and knocks down/wall splats for huge damage
>12 CH1 leads to a full unga combo
>d/b+2,1 is NCC and if they throw out the last 2 and you get hit then guess what 40% health gone gg retard
>CH b+4,2,1
Holy fuck unbelievable that this gay shit string wasn't nerfed

>>182553059
meanwhile fagunov has snake edge too that you can cancel into a low hitting throw or cancel completely and fish for people who try and punish it

>>182553278
Yeah they seemed to have dumbed down a lot of the inputs. KBDing is safer now because it now has a built in neutral guard so you don't get hit for being a scrub
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>leaving after one match in quick play
what a biiitch
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>>182553542

All these years later and people still lose to ali kicks. Amazing.
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>>182553518
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>>182553384
looks like Ringo from Steel ball Run.

Jin could also do a pretty good K' cosplay from KoF.
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>>182551902
As soon as the sony bought delay is over.
It's really pathetic that bamco and other companies want to be esports but can't even keep the patches straight for all versions.
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>>182553639

>the whole population of tekken players suddenly learned everything about the game

are you stupid or just trying to fit in with the rest?
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>>182553592
I fought a dragunov for the first time today, he seems insane
>jab string into sweep/mid
>unreactable ankle chop thing that crushes highs and can only be punished with a weak ass ws4
>sweep he can feint
>running 2 I couldn't sidestep for the life of me
I still won cause the guy couldn't block low to save his life but jeez
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>>182553592
>or cancel completely and fish for people who try and punish it
no you can't, you can only cancel f,f+2 1+2
you can also just dickjab and it'll beat both followups and it's risk free because he's negative after b+2,1

>>182553542
just block one and hold d/f, you will automatically parry the next kick
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>>182554008
can't he do the mid followup after one kick?
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practice
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>>182554105
yeah he can. you have to try to react to that if they catch on that you're trying to parry the kicks
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>>182553005
Shit like GG is way less complicated and to easier to learn than Tekken.
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>>182553939

>are you stupid or just trying to fit in with the rest?

It takes 2 second to hop into practice mode and figure out that ali kicks are -25 to -34 on block. Hands down one of the worst strings in the game.
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>>182554195
>>182554008

Don't parry ali kicks. You can launch them with your biggest fuck-off launcher on block.

The correct way to deal with them is to simply hold d/b and watch for the spin. It's easily blockable on reaction, even online.
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>Katarina player just does dumb shit every match and beats me probably 6 times in a row
>start beating her and she always quits after the first match
lol
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>still can't react to slow ass sweeps like alisa's and lili's
this game is f-fun
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>>182554008
>no you can't, you can only cancel f,f+2 1+2
I'm talking about the snake edge standalone. He most certainly can cancel that
>d/b+3, 1+2, d
Cancels the low and throw and let's you block whatever punisher they throw out.

>you can also dickjab and it'll beat both followups
again, cool story but nobody uses b+2,1,3 string because it is a shit scrubby string and half the good players will just duck the 1 and launch and the slower half will just block and launch. The d/b+3 cancel is scrubby shit.
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>>182553890
get the frameless square glasses for that "I'm better than both physically and intellectually" aesthetic
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>>182554423
>It's easily blockable on reaction, even online.
I find that hard online, especially if they mix the amount of kicks up. And if I wait for the mid and it never comes the window to punish the kicks is gone. I've seen good people fail that shit so I'm content with just parry punishing that shit.
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>>182554263

and the fact that they're almost instant and you can't block them after the first one lands
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Why can Kazuya do some other cool moves in the story mode but not when you actually play him?
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>>182554670

>you can't block them after the first one lands

Yes you can.
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>>182554472
>play 50 bryan matches in one session
>feels like I should have blocked most snake edges except it always lags
i really dont know if its me being too slow every time or not
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>>182554670
mate

if it's a regular hit you can start blocking after the first one
if it's a ch you get hit by 2 and then you can start blocking

they're complete ass
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>>182554670
>you can't block them after the first one lands
You can actually, did you mean to say you can't parry the second kick if the first one lands?
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Can-cans are cancer
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>>182554961
>hopkick except even more unsafe
ok?
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>>182554810
>>182554902
>>182554929

havent tried it in practice, but the match I fought, I couldnt even block the second one after the first

3 bar standard
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>>182554531
oh it's actually d/b, not b. that's why I never got it. anyway you can tech the throw with 1+2 every time so there's little risk in trying to block the sweep and reacting to the cancel by standing since the throw isn't an issue
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Holy fuck Josie is truly retarded online
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>>182554670
>can't block them after the first one lands
Hold d/b, not just down.
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>>182555017
>i14 safe low crushing ch launcher
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>>182555137

see, now... how come any of the vids/tutorials and anything in the op has any sort of tips regarding blocking

first time ive played, to block I've just stood still expecting no key pressed to be blocking everything, even after first hits in a string land

I thought almost everything was a combo
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>>182555074
If you are fast enough at punishing you used to be able to launch punish him even if he went for the throw instead, but now they dumbed it down for scrub players
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>>182555219
>safe
>low crushing
>ch launcher
okay whose can-cans are you talking about
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>>182555064


>havent tried it in practice, but the match I fought, I couldnt even block the second one after the first

I've been playing King for 20-odd years, I know the mirror match-up like the back of my hand. Trust me, you can block ali kicks even if you are hit by the first one.

Here's another reason to never ever parry that shit and to block instead. The reward for landing successful ali kicks into the mid is negligible. If you block it, you get to take him for half his life bar.
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>>182555336
>>182555219
>>182554961

devil jin/jin launch punishable
oscar just block low and stop being a bitch or keep her at range 2 so she can't abuse it

I think that covers everyone?
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>>182555336
Asuka

BOKE
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>>182555520
>Asuka
Lel if you were good enough you would see the low hit you and then duck the high scrubby ass
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PSA to new players

Stop pressing buttons and block and punish. If you don't know the punish or don't when to duck/block the string or move go to practice mode after. Write it down if you have to. Work on executing the punish in a real match.

This thread is literally 90% new players (nothing wrong with that, in fact it's great for Tekken) complaining about stuff that can be countered by training. Good luck to you all.
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>>182555520
If you want to complain about asska all you had to mention was F+2 that shit is broken and is basically the unga version of EWGF

Also used to launch punish death fist, law's ws+2 and basically anything that is launch punishable even if it has insane pushback
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I guess I'll just stop rematching people since everyone in the game save for me must have a photographic memory and never gets hit by the same move twice

Seriously I get nothing but salty 1-1s lately wtf is the deal
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>>182555894
>guy is at -frames
>try to jab him
>get launched for half my health
th-thanks
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>>182555642
I'm yellow rank so I should have some knowledge of the game r-right
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>>182554223
>GG is way less complicated
Convoluted is the right word, GG's complexity is made comprehensible through its tutorials and community effort. Tekken merely requires way more lexical knowledge, outside of that it's not as deep or execution heavy.
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>>182555894
lows are literally unblockable you cunt
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>>182556152
You can't abuse + frames in Tekken like other games because moves have crushing properties. Next time bait the launcher and punish.
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YOOOOOOOOOOO, I just punished a 30f move with my super ON REACTION, had to execute d+1+2 in the split of a couple of seconds. This game is too hard bruv but I'm getting better.
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>>182548696
damn Luci you're so good are you going to EVO?
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>>182556273
Fuck off
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>>182542039
Claudio

>man
Questionable, but check.
>honest, not unga and cheap
No gimmicks. Starburst gives you more juggle option. Best hopkick in the game, even then it's still very punishable. Strings are garbage and offers very little to no mix up potentials. Got some good + on block attacks, so use that to your advantage. iWR2 is pretty good too.
>Easy to play
Check.
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>>182556273
actually you just had to hit rb
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I've recently seen on a stream a Miguel do a WS2,4 and it looks like a corkscrew, but the guy didn't follow it up with anything.

I've tried to follow it up myself somehow, but the things I've tried didn't connect.

Is there any combo you can get off of that WS2,4 or do I keep doing my own WS ( showed first in the webm )?
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>158 wins / 423 battles
fuck
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>>182556273
>30 fucking frames to react with 1 (ONE) button
woah dude no way
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>stuck in green and yoyo-ing between brawler and grand master
>can beat someone two ranks higher than me
>can't beat people of the same rank
>tfw all hwoarangs in greens are people who got there without actually learning the game
>tfw if it's a hwoarang, it's a free win
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>>182556472
you can probably do d+1+2 after it though I'm not sure it does as much damage as your ws+2,2 combo
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>>182556472
looks like you should be able to combo off of that but I don't play miguel so idk
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>>182524509
Yeah I need to know. I thought she had the worst 10i punish in the game but this comment changes everything!
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>>182556264
I noticed
is using my df1 instead of jabs a good idea to get people off my ass?
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>>182556264

The more realistic advice is that you should just watch your opponent's behaviour after they block a jab or throw out one of their own. Blue ranks and green ranks really like to duck constantly - especially against King and Drag. If they start ducking, murder them for it.
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>>182523458
Her jab needs more hitstun
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>>182556676
people say that but get hit by sweeps all the fucking time and those are 28-30f too
>>
kasai
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>>182548561
PS4 records the last 15 minutes the moment you press the share button. I'd use Shadowplay assuming I get it on PC.
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>>182556472
WS2,2; DB2 ; DF1 ; DF2,2 ; dash ; FF2,1 nets you 50 dmg

WS2,4 ; dash ; DF1 ; DF4,1 ; DF4,1,1 nets 50 dmg too
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>>182557039
HM
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>>182556990
there's a difference between looking out for one particular move and mashing RA as soon as you see something move
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>>182556334
Nah, I would feel bad about stealing the Koreans' thunder.
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>>182557039
KAH
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>>182557080

ah, wasn't far off with the potential on my 47

will have to try these, the 47 one is mighty simple
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IT"S HERE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXtccwdCrZA
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>>182557340
What am I supposed to be looking at here?
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>>182557051
>15 minutes
You can set it anywhere between 30sec to 1 hour though.
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>>182557749
I actually didn't know that thanks for the info
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>>182545671

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>>182554472
>panic mode every time a Josie is dashing
I just decide to eat that low kick everytime.
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>>182544367
But asuka only has 2 crush moves
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>>182558103
do you take your finger off the directionals to hit downback without touching down or do you do it in a single motion?
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>>182556990
Sweeps are more like 21-24 frames, dicksplash
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>>182558609
>dicksplash
this is my new favorite insult
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>>182557623
The epitome of online entertainment.
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>>182558609
I just took snake edge as an example and that one is 27-28f
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It's always the Josie and Miguel players that kick your body after you lose a round. I guess I better get the Magic Mirror and ki charge and stomp at their corpses when I win a round
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>>182558987
I fall down on the ground and lie next to them
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>>182558987
Can confirm, I play Miguel and always kick faggots like you
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>>182558987
>getting butthurt over meaningless shit in a video game
you're the reason I fisherman slam every time
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>>182558236
Wut?
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>>182558427

What I do is double tap backwards for the first input, and then just keep shifting my thumb to down, but without letting go of back. If you hit down by it's self, you WILL sway.
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>don't worry about blocking just eat the low damaging lows
>the low damaging lows
>low damaging
pls nerf
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>>182559224
How about you git gud?
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>watch some ex-Dark Souls streamer play Tekken
>he got to Fighter rather quickly with yoshi
>notice how dogshit every people he gets matched with

Is NA Green rank equivalent to Asia Initiate - Expert?
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>>182559436
no point against the best char in the game
just got 3 perfects in a row
I just avoid her now
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I thought people said Bryan was unga? I'm trying to unga with him and its not working
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>>182559224
Lmao what's it like to be a shitter?
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Anyone having a hard time fighting Kazumi in infinite stages? Her b+3+4 and zoning options are pretty good it seems.
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>>182559560
You are the unga, anon.
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Drag is fucking useless unless u can not only do iwr but straight buffer it all the fucking time
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>>182559137
Is fisherman also considered bm now?
Can't even keep up with crybaby complains anymore.
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>>182559560

He's not. People only call him unga because of Snake Edge. It only really works if they match is laggy.
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>>182559560
bryan is a pure honest high iq character, scrubs cry about him because they can't block the slowest sweep in the game
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>>182559509
>Josie
>best char in the game
Yea, git gud senpai. Or just keep avoiding her like a scrub I guess
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I'm not really interested in playing akuma but he's basically doomed as a future tekken character, right?
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>>182559224
>nerf the low out of crouch dash
>basically no reason to crouch versus her ever
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what are the tells of eliza's launching sweep

i ran into one online recently and it fucked me up
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>>182559569
you lose a lot to stringy unga antics you don't know how to avoid simply because you are a noob
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>>182559815

Realistically, yeah. But who knows, Harada loves his boyfriend Ono.
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>>182559841
I'm not crouch dashing I'm just talking about the bs 30 ish damage jab to low launchers that no other character has thats next to impossible to predict
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>>182559907
she jumps up a little toward you, yells, and then goes low as the sweep comes out. you have time to block it as she starts dipping downward.
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>>182559224

Both her CD3, CD2 are can be stepped to the left. Beware though, her df2 will track that side.
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>>182560105
If serious, the only way you're getting a low launcher off of a jab is 1,2,4 into 3 and it hits counter hit. Duck the 1,2,4 on reaction, but if you don't just stand block. If the low hits then it's your turn because it's -2 on hit.
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>>182560243
you have to sidewalk her df2
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>>182560324

Yeah, sidewalking is alot unsafer, so I don't like to do it. Being able to sidestep block is way better. If a Josie likes to spam df2, I'd rather sidestep to the right.
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I FUCKING HATE PAUL.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>182560583

Try playing Feng against Paul. Shit is fucking stupid.
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>>182532189
I'm sorry, I was wrong.
Notation is d+3+4, 3
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>>182559560
Speaking of Bryan, is there a way to map taunt to a button on pad? I always fuck up when I try to press 3 buttons at once and its frustrating. Even mapping 1+2 and then pressing 3 is inconsistent for me
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>>182560583
Keep getting hit by d+4?
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How do I consistently do this slide moves with Lee, Shaheen and Law?
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>>182561072
hold one of then and press the other
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>>182561072

You can't in T7. It was possible in Tag 2 though.
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It's so hard to stop playing T7 on pc because of the 2 game sets. I can't quit after a salty 1-1
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>>182561129
demoman desu, and a lot of lucky death fists.
I try to keep distance, keep it cool and go for some sweep ch's, but at soon as this shit head gets close, I am toast.
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>>182561072
If you need to map taunt to one button to use it, you have no business using the taunt in the first place.

Don't worry your pretty head about high level strats.
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What are you supposed to do after landing Feng's CH DF1?
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>>182560642
Why?
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who's the least tekken?
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>>182553059
>meanwhile fagunov has snake edge too that you can cancel into a low hitting throw or cancel completely and fish for people who try and punish it
You can interrupt every single option he has by ducking the second hit.
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Gigas is the thinking man's character
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>>182561830
Alisa, Eliza and Akuma.
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>>182561638
db+3 connects as a combo and is practical in a match since that's part of your basic up close mixup anyway and you can kinda autopilot it. i haven't tested extensively, though, and it's generally just hard to react that you got the ch because the stun is short, and no one knows the actual frame advantage.
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>>182561925
if Alisa doesn't belong in the game than neither does Jack..
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>>182561638
>what am I supposed to do after [feng's move]
shoulder
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>>182561487
You sound like a faggot
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>>182560583
I actually have only every ran into one Paul since launch
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>>182561818

>Why?

Feng can't punish deathfist unless it is really deep.

>What are you supposed to do after landing Feng's CH DF1?

Backturned mix-up. Do it quickly enough and you can BT command grab them on wake-up.
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>>182561906
do you mean finking man's character?

>>182562006
Jack has been around since the beginning and he isn't anime as fuck flying everywhere shooting rockets and chainsawing people.
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>>182561867
What second hit? You realise he has a standalone snake edge like bryan right?
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>>182561989
Thanks! I was wondering what it could be, since shoulder won't work.
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>>182562056
Stay scrub
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>>182562304
Yeah my mistake, I thought you were talking about the string like a guy during another thread.
Still, keep that finger on 1+2.
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>>182562304
it's a pseudo mixup you can fuzzy guard the snake edge in any case and punish whatever comes out
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>>182562714
>fuzzy guard
Wat
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>>182562159
I'm only a green rank but can't you just f3,4 if he whiffs deathfist?
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>>182562181
KingBruv is the only one who can save us from the Koreans
I believe in his Gigas if I'm bein honest
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>>182562181
>flying everywhere shooting rockets
Anyone who claims Alisa is gimicky is just a salty old fag who wishes it was still 2001
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>>182562431
I'm not him, you sound like a faggot
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>>182560583
What rank are you? Just wanna know if you fought me
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>>182562774
fuzzy guard: tap down (longer thann ss timing necessary) to avoid pseudo mixups in one direction e.g. dragunov snake edge mid throw mixup
the other direction is like asukas f+1, d+4 you wait standing if nothing comes out you know it is d+4 because has a longer startup and then you duck
every mixup that annoys you needs to be tested if it is real
I hope I explained it well enough in my mediocre english
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>>182562897
Yeah, I don't give two shits. If you defend scrubby attitudes, you're a scrub in my eyes.

>Stay scrub
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As far as I'm concerned Feng only has 2 moves and those are db3 and b1+2
If you aren't mashing Feng's shoulder at every given moment, don't talk to me.
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>>182563104
Clearly you care enough to find a gif and reply. Faggot
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>>182563360
>the brainlet stock comeback
lmfao

I cared so much I typed 5 letters in my reaction folder
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>>182563628
Leo is cheap getting into green ranks with Leo is like getting to mentor with any other character
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>>182562816

>I'm only a green rank but can't you just f3,4 if he whiffs deathfist?

You can use virtually any move if he whiffs deathfist. I'm talking about punishing deathfist. f3, 4 is 21 frames or something - far too slow to punish deathfist. Shoulder is your best bet but it falls short unless Paul hits the deathfist really deep and whiffing a shoulder in their face = death.
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>>182563725
>getting into green ranks with Leo is like getting to mentor with any other character
With that logic, Leo is literally the only cheap character in Tekken. Don't know how that works.
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>>182559224
t. usurper scrub
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>>182563725
>>182563920
Every character is fair. Anyone saying otherwise hasn't been in training mode with them long enough.
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>>182564058
inb4 buttmad scrubs respond to you
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Jin is too hard to play
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>>182564058

This
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>>182564058
>devil kazumi online is fair
Really gets the noggin joggin
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>>182563725
>Leo cheap
never was never will be
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>>182564109
Keep trying. I believe in you!
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>>182529309
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>>182563094
>every mixup that annoys you needs to be tested if it is real
this

Every time I come up with a Yoshi setup I figure out every way to counter it as well, the end result is I'm painfully aware that nothing is real: no frame traps, no mixups, no throws, no low launch, no body, no mind, no shape, no shape.
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>>182564109
what are you having trouble with, anon?
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>>182563593
Faggot
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>>182564347
Combos like this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbCn9U0GApQ

Impossible to do online
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>>182564347
Neutral mostly, coming from Feng I don't really understand how to play it.

>>182564463
not me
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>>182561638
f3,4 into memes, what else scrub? Dont got the reactions?
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>>182564463
That's just a micro dash combo. It's like you never played Wang.
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>>182564058
>getting mindfucked by top level players tier lists
and once again a fine example for people being their worst enemy
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>>182564498
wr3 b2,1 f4 ewhf are all good tools in neutral. Hellsweep if they're being too passive.
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>>182561217
Wouldn't that make me kick or 1+2 before the taunt though? I feel like that would fuck up my timing
>>182561487
Do you play on pad? Pressing 1+2+3 consistently is a pain in the ass, unless I do claw or something
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>>182564440
Not >>182563593
but you're a scub homeslice
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>>182564058
Funny, because I have heard dozens of pro's say there is a lot of cheap shit that some characters have. Your honest meme is fucking BS, its almost as if you have never played any fighting games before.
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>>182564463

Don't bother with combos that are inconsistent for you. Do this instead:

EWHF, b3~f1, b3~f1,2. Low damage compared to that one, but it's more consistent.
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Fuck Asuka. What to do vs her parry?
Just wait it out for the opening frame?
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What should I do when Bryan is constantly jabbing me in a corner? None of my move are fast enough to block punish him. I play Heihachi btw
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>>182564904
Even cheap shit has an answer scrub.

>>182564650
>>182564292

Like clockwork.
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>>182565089
Hit low.
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>>182564058
ling puts you in pretty unfair situations
some characters can literally only beat her by playing 2/3 to full screen for 60 seconds because the up close game and trying to get in mid range is way too risky for them but not for ling
doesnt help that she has arguably the best oki and rage drive in the game
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>>182565089
Hit low, grab her or use knee/shoulder/elbow attacks.
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Akuma players are scum
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>>182565112
Duck.

>>182565089
Just throw the bitch.
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>>182565089
her parry only grabs arms and legs. If you use a move that uses and elbow, knee, headbutt, etc it will NOT parry it. More people need to now this. I play King and whenever an Asuka uses it I get a free hopkick since King's is a riding knee.
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>>182565089
Throws, lows, knees, elbows, shoulders, asses...
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>>182565112

Bryan is terrifying at walls. Just make sure you don't get caught by b4, and you'll be fine. db1+2 can get you out of some situations, but it's pretty unsafe. Just be patient.
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to people playing on keyboard:
Do you do KBD in traditional way b,b,db,N... or in socd way with bb,d,f,...?
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>>182564463
maybe this will help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhbPWtgqeNo

>>182564498
well you have really really good pokes and keepout mids
2,1>4 is very strong
b+2,1 is a safe poke with great range, it's also your best bet in a combo if nothing else seems to pick up
lots of good mids
ff+3 is the classic axe kick, plus on block
ff+4 also forces duck and knocks down on hit
d/f+4 is good and combos on counterhit
f+4 by itself or into stance for mixups
notable lows are d+4 d/b+4 llrk (cd+4)
uhhh
also bf+2 gives a stun on counterhit that I think is escapable but if they don't, free combo
generally I like to throw out 2,1 some b+2,1 d/f+1 type stuff generally and lows and hookfists until they start ducking, then fuck them up with mids
he also has pretty fuckin' good counterhit tools
b+3, f+4, d/f+4, d/b+4, cds 3, magic 4

>>182565089
her parry only works against hands and feet
try an elbow or a knee, or even just throw her
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>>182565124
>pro's call shit cheap
>any vet fighting game player knows cheap shit exists in any fighting game but divekick
>anon in tekgen AKA first fighting game babby central says cheap shit doesnt exit
Sure thing buddy.
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>>182565156
Took awhile but we've got our scrub reply
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>>182564904
cheap =|= unfair
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>>182565446
>no argument

as expected
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>>182565370
Never said cheap shit doesn't exist. Learn to read.
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>>182565089
Chicken is also an option if ever you get parried. It's hard as fuck though.
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>>182565352
Thanks, when should I use cancans? Does it crush lows like a hopkick?
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>>182565481
I'm not going to bother. None of that was fact. You just have trouble with her. Git gud or shut up
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>>182565124
Yeah I'll take the pro's word over some green rank scrub from 4chan

"Feng is a good character. It's not as insane as Leo and Paul where you are filled with OP moves or that crazy bitch [refers to Xiaoyu] where you can spam one stance to play 50/50 while dodging high and mids." - 일십백(OneTenHundred)
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>>182520107
hit him in-between his massive frame delay.
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>>182565345
I do bb qcb b qcb
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>>182564776
Dude taunt is 1+3+4..

Just map 3+4 to a button and press 1 it's pretty easy
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>>182565601
How many times you gonna post this?He's not a pro either
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>>182565601
Yeah, they do have really good moves. What's your point? I never denied that. At least these players have actually gone into training mode to see what they can do against "X" character instead of dodging them like a bitch.
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>>182565112
just jabs? duck
jabs and d/f+1? his d/f+1 is -5 so you can always jab him if he's going to keep pressing buttons
1,1>2 is a very strong jab string and hitconfirm for heihachi
as a last resort, you can do b+1+4 to reverse it, but it damages heihachi as well so use it sparingly
still, in a 'get off me' moment it will give you enough time to maneuver away from the wall
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>>182564058
Leo
Alisa
Bears
Xiouyu
And Josie are definitely not fair
Even pros agree with this
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>>182565583
yes but it's significantly worse on block
I generally use cancans as a block punish against stuff like feng's shoulder, rage arts, etc
if you're worried it will get blocked, just hopkick instead
you get almost the same damage and it's not launch punishable in practice
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>>182547843
106

Byakko
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>>182565960
>Josie isn't fair

Haha, oh my god.
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>>182565587
i am pretty gud and beat many ling players but that doesnt change the character consistently forcing unfair situations
ask any good player and theyll say similar things about why shes so strong in this game and i think all her strengths make her unfair in a number of common situations
you play her game way more often than vs any other character
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>>182556472
WS24, SAV uf3, df41, db2, ff21 is a great 64 damage combo, it's hard to connect ff21, but I believe in you. Thank me later.
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Just exactly how much money do I need to spend on a stick to get one that functions properly?

I've been through Qanba's lineup, Hori sticks, and Sanwa sticks and buttons.

Pretty rarely do I ever get correct inputs out of my sticks and it's pretty annoying to lose 6 ranks at a time because of it.

Are Seimitsu sticks good? Do I need to get a custom Korean one?
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>>182565981
Hello Knee
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>Asuka's f3 unblockable is now a mid.

Not sure how I feel about this.
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>>182565960
yeah well strange things happen while dreaming

never heard any high level player saying a chracter is unfair since T5.0
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>>182566135
>Hello booster
FTFY
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>>182565294
THIS POST CHANGED MY LIFE!


I've been a fool.
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>>182565981

Who are you
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>>182566090
it's (You)
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I hate infinite stages.
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>>182565762
Post ten seconds of you blocking Zato Deadmand Hand setups after you labbed it for days in training mode.
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I don't like my character ranking up when I promote with my main

I can't learn new characters against people who already know their character
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>>182565294

>King's df1 is an elbow.

It's like they made King to be a direct counter to Asuka.
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>>182564058
Leo poster here, sorry for the trouble I've caused.
I hadn't played Tekken 7 for a little while (4-5 days) and I was happy about getting out of blue ranks. Sorry.
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>>182566384
t. Asuka, Leo, Katarina player
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>>182565960
>>182565601
>>182565370

What in God's name is wrong with you?
Do you actually like shitting up the thread with this non-sense?

If you're good you can beat anybody with any character.
If you're bad, a character won't carry you.

Defeats in ranked matches before yellow ranks - when you're bad at the game - are mostly about you doing something so stupid it gets you launched
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>>182566359
It's not, when I'm in practice mode and holding db and getting only b inputs, with input display showing and entire button presses don't come out at all, it's the stick
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>>182566090
Are you serious?
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>>182566653
if it's the stick and the buttons malfunctioning, it's probably the pcb
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>>182566497
Josie too, her damage is little without walls
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>tfw too low IQ to play more than 1 character
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>>182565528
Thats a whole new layer just for one character...
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>>182566435
>block
>deadman hand

lmao.
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>>182566516
>>every character is fair guize!!1 REEEEE DONT CALL MY WAIFU CHEAP!!!
>hang on a second my dude pros say some characters have some cheap and unbalanced shit
>>REEEEEEE

Jesus sorry for providing a counter-point, you foaming mouthed autist
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>>182566818
>just for one character
Learn the game, moron
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>>182566818
True. Better just go for lows and other shit. Chicken only works if you're expecting the parry anyway. Can't do that shit on reaction.
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Prove to me right now how any character/controller setup is more SSS+++ tier than heihachi on an mx green/clear/brown keyboard or hitbox
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>>182566960
>True
Not true. Several characters have reversals you can chicken
>>182566985
You have autism
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What's your excuse, /tekgen/?
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>>182535781

Main easy combo is [launcher] df 4 3, df 2 1, running powerbomb

With bigger launchers/crumples, do f 3 before the df 4 3

With huge launchers (d 1+2 or rage drive) uf delayed 4 before the df 4 3, but this only works with good timing on the delayed kick so you come out in a good position, or you can try to dash before the df 4, 3

If you get CH ff1, do another ff1, df 4, 3, Giant Swing

If you have rage, after the corkscrew (df 2, 1), do your rage drive, then while they're in the ground either do d 2+3 for garunteed damage or go for a ground grab for higher damage if they don't break.

With a high wall splat do Giant Swing, or do Tiajuna Twister if you're above a breakable floor. With low wall splat, do 1, 2 crouch throw, then whichever followup.

Congrats, you have a basic King.
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>>182566985

What are you even implying? That's it's super easy to do OTGF and EWGF on a keyboard/hitbox?
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>>182567118
Excuse for what?
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>>182566985
>using tactile for gaming
>ever
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>>182566818
Chicken works for any character with a standard reversal, i.e king, paul, asuka, dragunov, (maybe Xiaoyu?) Off the top of my head.

But you are better off just faking them out into using it and then launch punishing it when they are recovering.

Here is an interesting tutorial from Aris about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXgJFss14qI
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>>182565294
Cool thanks
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>>182566960
well, you can option select it for some strings. like mishima 1,1 jab string, inputting 1,f+1+3 will give the string and chicken if the first 1 was parried. also works but is a little trickier with strings like jin b+2,1, you would have to do b+2,f+1+2+4 to both get the string (if you want it) and chicken os.

i forget but if he holds parry isn't it counter hit state?
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>>182567132
They become a joke on a hitbox.
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>>182566920
>>182567173
Two types of posters
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>>182566851
Yeah, my point exactly. The tekgen propaganda that every character is the exact same and no cheap shit exists really irks me. High five, babbys need to learn how fighting games work.
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Today I learned I can interrupt 10 strings with Feng's 1+2 parry

You will never hit me again you stupid Yoshimitsu memers
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>>182566985
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>>182567118
Well for starters I use a legacy character and not an unga with 1 button combos that barely anyone knows the matchup for
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>>182566248
Knee has 106 wins and is Byakko. I doubt it's a coincidence. No, I don't actually it's him.
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>>182567334
>People still acting like he didn't say cheap shit was in the game and that people need to actually learn what to do against it instead of bitching

Guys, this has been going on for a while now and I really hoped you would have noticed the bait.
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>>182535781

Oh and never use your RA except if you want the armor because you 100% know a button got hit. RD is better damage and like +8 on block
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how the fuck am I supposed to go for lows as Kazumi if they keep mashing?
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>>182567562
Don't. Why are you going for lows when they are spamming?
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>>182567562
You don't. You jab and punish mashing.

You should only be using lows when they are defending to open them up to mids.
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DRAGUNOV FUCKING SUCKS. Low risk low reward
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>>182566851
Ad hominem doesn't help your point (or the lack thereof).
Neither does green texting utterly silly things.

I never said or implied every character is fair, nor did I mention in any way "waifus", nor expressed any anger, it's dismay.
I didn't even assert that some characters have some "cheap and unbalanced" [moves].

Maybe read my post one more time.
It seems like you have skimmed through it and jumped, yet again, on non-sense.
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>>182567118
I'm white
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>>182567118
Huh?
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I WILL SPAM THE SHIT OUT OF HARADA'S TWITTER IF THE PC PATCH DOESN'T COME OUT IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS
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>>182567806
C'mon man, try harder.
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>>182567876
>what is hyperbole
Also the fallacy fallacy doesn't help your point.

>I never said or implied every character is fair
I assume you are >>182564058
>Every character is fair. Anyone saying otherwise hasn't been in training mode with them long enough.

If you aren't him then I don't know why the fuck you bothered responding to me.
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>>182567331
One who spoonfeeds retards and a normal poster
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>>182568064
>leo
you're basically 2nd dan
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>>182567641
>>182567704
what do I do if they block a mid?
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>>182567118
I'm fat.
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>>182568138
>Shaheen with knife customization
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>>182568421
Depends what mid it is. If it is around -7 or below then sidestep to their weak side unless they keep using tracking/homing moves
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>>182568316
>One who knows and one who knows jack shit
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>>182568283
Fallacy fallacy, I guess you can get away with anything then.
Besides this is an anonymous imageboard where anyone can join the conversation.
I called you out and quoted several of your inane posts to point what was fundamentally wrong in them.

You didn't even try to address the logical issues I pointed out.
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please tell me they aren't getting rid of matchlist or ability to see ranks, I don't want to get demoted because the retarded matchmaking system ranks me with much lower ranks despite the settings I choose
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>Katarina snakes edges me
>Oh boy here comes a 60% 2 button combo
>She ''drops it''
>Wake up with an unblockable to my face

I don't like this character
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>main Alisa
>almost never use her d+3+4 low sweep launcher
>meanwhile Bryans, Katarinas and Laws spam theirs all the time
I can't bring myself to spam such an unsafe move.
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>>182568781
>falling for unblockables
You deserved it.
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>>182568387
And when I reach Juggernaut in the coming week I'll be Expert, right
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>>182568518
>>182567351
>>182567229

This is why I hate tekken and tekken players

Like wtf are these autists talking about with all these numbers?

I don't want to go back to SFV but when I see how inaccessable this pile of shit is it makes me just want to wait for the next capcuck game and hope they learnt from their mistakes.
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What is it with 17ers and calling every sweep a snake edge?
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Post characters you're in the middle of learning!
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>>182568990
The same who cry about characters
They will drop the game soon enough
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>>182568937
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>>182568937
It's in the fucking first post, man.
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>>182568518
SS always seems to fail me, their move isn't even homing and it still hits. I think they aren't timing thier moves right and their late input catches the SS.
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>>182569067
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>>182569067
>>182563628
I'm still sorry about the trouble I've caused.
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>>182569067
All of them
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>>182568937
This is my first ever fighting game Im learning instead of just mashing at some friends house, and even Im not as retarded as you.
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>>182568819
It's useless anyways we have db4
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>>182566336
Ravenda85
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>>182569067
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>>182568937
I'm new and it took me like 2 days to get used to, its easy as fuck and by far the best notation method

PS4 pad:

1= Square
2= Triangle
3= Circle
4= X
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>>182564109
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>>182568717
Fallacy fallacy means just because I use a fallacy doesn't mean I'm wrong. When I state facts and call you retarded for not knowing facts screaming "Ad hominem!!!1" doesn't invalidate my claims.

You quoted one post of mine, don't try and make out like everybody thinks like you. After all,
>anyone can join the conversation.

What logical issues? Some anon says that all characters are fair, I say the pros disagree and then the next minute you quote my post and lump it in with 2 other posters so that you can argue for the sake of arguing.

SMD stoner
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>>182569345
Anon, 3 is X and 4 is Circle.
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>>182569415
Ummmmmm no sweetie it is not.
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why does this game still have no content
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Leo's wall damage feels good man
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>>182569345
>>182569415
LMFAO good job there buddy you sure showed me how simple the game is! totally didn't fall at the first hurdle
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>>182569464
no, he's right
3 is below 1 and 4 is below 2
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>>182569345
>>182569536
Kek, I did make a mistake. I'm sorry. I'm not teaching material but I hope you kinda understand where I was going

Ill crawl back to my Green rank cave
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>>182569345
3 is X it's left kick.

1=square=left punch
2=triangle=right punch
3=ex=left kick
4=circle=right kick
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>>182569269
You can't combo off of it?
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>>182569067
Jin, Bryan, and Kazuya
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>>182569637
Just admit the game is a dumpster fire of needless complexity

Can't w8 for the next SF game so I can stop playing injustass 2
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>>182569637
It's okay, Anon. Least you didn't cause an accidental shitstorm by posting Leo achieving Brawler rank.
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>>182569535
goddamn. Leo can wall carry from the other side of the fucking stage it's ridiculous. I thought Feng had amazing wall carry combos, but Leo shits on him.
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>>182568937
At first I thought it was ass too but it kind of makes sense for tekken's button layout.
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Why is Jin wearing Guy Fieri pants
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>>182569770
>simple way to write combos and moves
>needless complexity
I'm sorry, anon.
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>>182569780
she also has retarded wall damage and real 50/50s
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>>182569770
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>>182569402
I know what fallacy fallacy means. Maybe you don't fully grasp the extent of the notion else you would have sensed the irony.

>When I state facts and call you retarded for not knowing facts screaming "Ad hominem!!!1
This never happened.

>[...]
Just read my original post good God.
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>>182569213
>>182569145
>>182569637
>>182569812
>>182569886
You seriously expect new players to read a boring book load of shit before they even start the game?

Miss me with that gay shit I read enough textbooks at university I ain't spending all my time learning a second rate fighting game.
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>>182569770
>mfw someone called Tekken complex near me
Autistic, yes, complex, no.
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>>182569770
Man, street fighter fanboys are really insufferable.
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>>182570185
You can learn everything in 5 minutes.
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>>182566516
an easy and strong character can absolutely carry you
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Stop replying to obvious bait you retards
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>>182569770
2complex4me
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>>182570356
Not after yellow ranks.
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>>182570148
>This never happened
Never said it did nignog, reading comprehension. It's an example to explain to you what the fallacy fallacy was, which you demonstrated a lack of understanding about.

>Just read my original post
I don't even know what the fuck your original post is because you butted into a convsersation I was having with someone else!
Dummy
>hurr durr its an anomalous laotian claymation discussion forum that anybody can use!
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>>182569643
It's low profile and does good damage people who can't block snake edge stop existing at higher level of play
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>>182570578
You won.
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>>182570497
When you say after yellow ranks so you mean greater than or equal to yellow ranks or greater than yellow ranks?
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>>182570497
>not after yellow ranks
AKA not when the player pool is full of koreans, nips and a small pool or americans and yuropoors who nolife play only tekken and no other videogame
Color me suprised.
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>>182568937

>wahh numbers wahh

Must've been rough not getting past middle school.
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>>182570769
Depends on the platform/region etc, but I think most people agree that on all of them, more or less yellow is where it starts getting hard.
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>>182570185
You're just stupid I guess. Stick to your crapcom
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>>182535851
>10 hit combo
are you high
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>>182547957
>my chart gets posted

happy to help, though I might have fucked one thing here and there because I was tired.
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>>182572621
what did you use to make that, anon?
also thanks for doing so, it's a nice chart and you should be happy
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>>182550039
Ignore this faggot he hides his rank in his shit tier video of him playing.

Also kys for being such a whiny cuck. You're just shit, learn to make friends in real life if online is such a problem
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>>182572621
>>182547957
Here's the updated version, I fixed my fuckup

>>182572736
Thanks lad. I used the newest version of Paint dot net.

Be sure to turn anti-aliasing on the brush off, it makes things more difficult
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>>182570185
If it looks like your character is staggering after a block don't attack
If it doesn't you can probably attack

maybe thats too complicated
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>>182570185

If you want to stay bad and mash at your friend's house no one's stopping you.

You need to learn this type of shit to git gud at any fighter, including SF. Hell, you even need it for Smash.
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>>182571635

King's 10 hit isn't bad

121124 and then stop, I think the last 124 are NC so why not unless they block the 1?
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>>182569317
wtf I love Ling now.
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>>182572914
I'm pretty sure you can break after manhatten drop with 2
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>>182572914
>>182576387
just tested it
you can break the Manhattan drop with 2
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