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>VOTE FOR THE MOST AESTHETIC WEAPONS
>Links in the Pastebin

https://pastebin.com/qBkCy5eE
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>Character Planner
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>DARK SOULS 3
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>Full Soundtrack
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>DARK SOULS 2
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>DARK SOULS
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>DEMON'S SOULS
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>Community & Fanart
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rate the fashyon
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>he has problems with gank squads
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Flamberge is best weapon
prove me wrong
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>tfw you post your thing just as the new thread is made
What DS game did you have the most fun with? And why?
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>>182484397
DaS2 SotfS
I liked how unlike the other games you could actually see your character get stronger
Covenants were fun too
Setting up traps as the rat king servant was great
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>>182484562
dark souls 2 unironically, there is SO much variety and the game is actually balanced unlike the other 2. although, PvE is not as fun as the others because of level design flaws and gankspanks at every turn.
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>>182484509
What the fuck is this

You got summoned for co-op, but the host had the Untrue White Ring on and two dark spirits with Untrue White and Untrue Dark with him to make it look like a normal gank? Were they gonna play through a portion of the level normally with you, only to stab you in the back while you're distracted, or were they just gonna give you a beatdown at the bonfire?

Regardless, nicely done
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Blessed Artorias Greatsword build
Whip and Faith build
Greatclubber build
Spear Paladin build

Too many to pick from
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>>182484509
>calling it a countergank when none of them were even attacking you at the same time
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>>182484309
comfy/10
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>>182484208
>preacher's right arm doesn't have P A R T A K E instead of top tier
Also, where are shields?
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>>182485175
or even attacking him at all
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Anyone can provide me a cat ring? I can't invade in post-pontiff area without it and sirris questline ends way too easily
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>>182484509
how the fuck did you do so much damage
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>>182484572
>I liked how unlike the other games you could actually see your character get stronger
What do you mean? I don't recall there being anything different than what was present in other games.
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>>182486537
no you fucking mongoloid it's the easiest fucking questline in the game, all you do is NOT offer your pale tongues or invade with the rosaria covenant on
jesus you're fucking retarded just get to irithyll it's the fucking first thing you see, even before fighting pontiff's doggo
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>>182486537
Just don't offer Rosaria a Pale Tongue, it's that fucking simple.
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>[Downscaled phantom] has returned home
>[Downscaled phantom] summoned
Why the fuck is there no penalty for this?
The host should at least lose some Estus or something.
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wtf I'm a furry now
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>>182487416
DO NOT DIDDLE THE CAT
THE CAT IS FOR RINGS AND COVENANTS
THE CAT IS NOT FOR FUG
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>>182486984
>>182487051
>just don't touch half of the online untill you finish an arbitrary questline
No thank you
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>>182487416
>not even best cat
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>>182487393
That's why if you see a fag with the downscaled icon, you always immediately block them. And let the host flail around. Also this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhkqfqdKod0
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>>182487601
Offering Pale Tongues to Rosaria is not half the online content.
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Hexer or 99 int MLGS user? Dark souls 2 of course, there is no true hexing in the others.
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>>182487775
Hexer knight
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>>182487714
U also can't even fucking use rosarias fingers invading
yes u CAN still invade without it, but why would u, without following a guide? It's bullshit.

I wan't a cat ring, not a bunch of people with miyazaki's cock up their ass telling me japanese questwriting is excellent.
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most active area to invade and at what level?
also what weapon should i use to be as cancerous as possible
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>>182487601
You can still invade as a red with no covenant and get tongues, idort.
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>>182487601
Literally wait 3 areas after rosaria and then you can get your obscuring ring
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>>182488046
I'm not saying u can't, I'm saying that without a guide no one would complete the entirity of sirris her questline without triggering one of those things.
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>>182488000
あなたにファック
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>>182488000
jesus you don't deserve these trips
you get a pale tongue as an invader no matter what, and if you ACTUALLY INVADED you'd see that (you even get forked tongues without the covenant on)
notice how Leonhardt doesn't even give you the key to get the REO or tell you to join rosaria until AFTER you get a pale tongue?
fuck you, stay retarded
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>>182488000
>but why would u
Why would you think you need to invade with it?

>I wan't a cat ring
Go to ng+ like anyone else who failed the quest, holy shit.
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>>182488175
Yeah they could, they could just not invade. Or invade but not stumble upon Rosaria. Or invade only as a purple.
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Why is the Mastodon Greatsword so good?
Seriously, it's just super fun to use on a STR build, and it looks really good with golden armours like Syan's Armour and the Gyrm Heavy Helm.
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>>182488217
>you get a pale tongue as an invader no matter what,
Actually, you don't get them if you invade as a purple or as a sunbro. Your point is totally valid but I'm going to pick at nits because I'm an autist.
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>>182488175
it's actually easy as fuck and only requires failing it ONCE to understand
>"Mm, I see that you are now a Finger of Rosaria. Your path is wholly different to mine. Gentle Unkindled, I bid you farewell. If we meet again, it will be as adversaries."
oh nuuu I can't get the cat ring on ONE playthrough wahhhhhhhh
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>>182485489
I will do Shields when this is finished
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Why is my swordspear only hitting players for 200 dMG. It's +5 with 40dex/60faith. I've tried 40/40 dex and str but it only adds an extra 60 dMG. Am I retarded or is the swordspear shit tier?
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>40/40 INT/DEX build
>great farron dart from heretic's staff
>~25 damage
>throwing knife
>~30 damage
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>>182488672
spears all hit for shit unless you do Leo ring and counter people
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>>182488000
>u
>wan't
>insulting the people you beg for shit from
Is this some kind of metabait?
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>>182488175
>npc you meet before rosaria clearly hates fingers
>join them anyways and complain when said npc fucks off
Idiot.
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How does killing crystal sage effect the wolf covenant matchmaking? I want the wolf ring for the achievement, but Im getting bored of just idling in the swamp. Id like to progress through the game a bit while staying at sl30 +3 but Im worried killing the sage will fuck it up somehow.
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>>182488808
>40 int
Shit build for sorceries.
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>>182488975
Eh, just shank the cunt and be done with it.
You can still do Farron Wolf invasions regardless.
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>>182488463

>>182488975
You can kill the sage no issue
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>>182488975
>worrying about cheevos on your first playthrough
>using a guide on your first playthrough
>coming here on your first playthrough

F
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>>182488930
I'm not complaining that the npc fucks off you nigger, I'm complaining that it forces u to go to NG+ Just to get her items, just make her go hostile and be somewhere and then u kill her and get her items.
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>>182488975
what cool artwork
what a shit post
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>>182489325
Stop being a whiny bitch baby.
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>>182489069
>>182489097
Ok cool. desu I didnt think it'd effect it but I have PTSD from overleveling my DaS2 all achievements character and having to farm the goddamn falconers for days.
>>182489113
expardon me
>>182489350
im sorry
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>>182489507
Nod an argumend
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>>182489325
the silvercat ring is special, she gifts it to you as a reward for aiding her in defeating Creighton when you didn't have to
her questline is actually fucking good, and if you don't do it you don't deserve the ring anyway
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>>182489569
Then let me put it another way.

Dark Souls has never been a game that just hands shit to you. You have to work for it, and maybe make mistakes that fuck you over for the rest of the run. If you don't like it, don't play the game you whiny bitch baby.

For fuck's sake DS1 had way more punishing questlines. You could lock yourself out of the red eye covenant without even realizing it and the NPC that heads it exists.
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>>182489564
Don't worry my son, this is not the Nightmare known as Trash Souls 2
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>>182489697
I get that but why wouldn't they just move an aggrod version of her to yorska so u can kill her for the items?
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>>182489865
Yes but DS1 is very old so I forgive it for making mistakes like that, I expected 2017 games to not exclude you from pvp-viable items for an entire playthrough just because you hit a trigger, really makes it so u need a guide if u want these gimmick rings.
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can someone mule me a couple items on PS4 please?
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>>182489880
Because if they did then what would be the point of doing the questline?

>>182490030
>mistakes
You're just a shit gamer. Dark Souls was not made to appeal to you. If you don't like it, fuck off.
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>>182488808

I gave up on non glass cannon sorcery when I realized that crystal longsword does similar damage and has a better moveset than flashsword at 60 int with rings
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>>182489564
Why not just CE them in
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>>182490135
>Because if they did then what would be the point of doing the questline?
Souls, Story, Gameplay, Role playing
>You're just a shit gamer. Dark Souls was not made to appeal to you. If you don't like it, fuck off.
Dark Souls appeals a lot to me, otherwise I wouldn't be here, I just don't like this specific aspect, no need to get all black 'n white.
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What goes better with full fallen knight and dark sword? shield of want or grass crest?
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>>182490169
If you want to use the swordceries try a Heysel Pick or Immolation Tinder build.
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>>182490030
It's not the end of the world, dude. Either rush NG+ or invest in some INT and cast spook before a fall.
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>>182487775
Hexer is better for PvP since it fucks everybody who's not also a hexer or pyro, but they're roughly the same viability for PvE.

Either take enough STR to 1hand Blacksword with a staff, or enough STR/DEX to 1hand MLGS with Wisdom.
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>>182490525
>Rush NG+
Makes enemies fighting me when I get invaded stronger
>Invest in some INT
I take pride in my min-maxing, I would never.

It's really not the end of the world, I'm way calmer than all these people cursing at me for disliking an aspect.
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>watching a girl play Dark SOuls 3
>nobody is giving her hints but she's figuring things out gradually
>suddenly some fuckboy mod comes in
>gives her step by step instructions on where to go
aaand dropped

why the fuck do people even do this shit. the game isn't hard to figure out it's fucking linear, at some point youll see where to go.
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So what do you use to help you pick builds that's not a retarded roll a build image?
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>>182490369
a rope
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>>182488808
>40 INT
Absolutely worthless for casting anything that the rings effect.
Go to 60 if you actually want to use damaging spells.
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>>182484513
this man is right
>tfw got flamberge on first kill without any luck boosts when trying to farm it
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>>182484562
ds1, I'm replaying it over and over and never getting tired of it
I don't play pvp at all, ds3 was fun but a bit short and I can't find the motivation to replay it, and ds2 was a chore to play through
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>needing 80 (EIGHTY) in a stat to actually do damage
why do Dexcucks have it worse than Strengthfags?
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>>182490703
Or ask someone to dupe it for you if you're on console, spawn it in if you're on PC.
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>>182491128
Yeah I'm on pc but I'm not about to use CE, that's why I'm asking someone to drop it for me, that's how this entire shitstorm started.
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>>182491094
>needing 66 str and 40 vit to be viable

STRcucks, am I right?
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>>182491094
>being a Strfag
>ever
lmaoing at how braindead u are
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Is this a good head size for Vilhelm's Pinhead? Too big? Still too small?
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>>182490369
if youre intentionally going for a scrub cosplay, shield of want. Thats what I associate with that type of player more. The grass crest makes me think more of early game pvp.
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>>182490030
It takes about 20 casually played hours to get from wherever you are back to where you can get the ring if you have the slightest modicum of understanding of the game
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>>182491625
>I'm sl120
20 hrs?
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>>182491734
>implying soul duping is hard
>implying DS3 is hard
>implying it doesn't take less than 10 hours to go through a critical path of obtaining all bonfires
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>>182491880
I'm Implying none of those things, what are you impling? I give up on my 180+hrs character and make a new one just to get a fucking ring? This exactly proves my point.
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>>182490369
this https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/221679
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>>182492049

oh fuck i feel soiled just looking at that
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>>182491094
It's closer to 70 usually and allows you to use 1 handed movesets at full damage, not to mention the non existent weight and low stamina consumption
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>>182492005
180 hours and you're just getting to the end of sirris' questline now? something doesn't add up
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Reminder that STRfags are literally retarded and only know how to smash things with sticks, and that they are infinitely inferior to Dexlords.
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>>182488672
Use weapon skill then hit people
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>>182492283
???? I've never done the sirris questline, why the fuck would I ask for a catring then?
I am already done with the game and doing pvp, and I still need a cat ring for Anor londo.
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>>182492301
True elder god mode is STR and DEX
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>>182484208
>Post your craziest lore theories
Hardmode: provide proof

>Ocelotte is Gundyr
>dancer is queen of lothric
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>>182491734
I don't get what you're saying, are you implying you can only run through the game in 20 hours if you're 120? Because as 120 you should be plowing through ng and ng+ in 13 hours TOP
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>>182488930
Are you dumb anon? She only says she hates the fingers after you meet Rosaria. 2-3 areas after cathedral actually.
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>>182488808
Or you could go 60 int and delete phantoms

And darts does about 120 or more at 60. I don't know since I never use weak spells anymore
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>>182492546
Not souls but the beastclaw hunter in the hunter's nightmare is irreverant izzy
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WHERE
ARE
THE
SILVER
KNIGHT
WEAPONS
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>>182492546
Leonhard is a descendant of Gwyn, likely through Gwynevere.
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>>182492718
In the trash, where they belong.
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>>182492718
they're not even that cool
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>>182492548
No I'm not saying that, I'm saying that my character is SL120 and I'm already done with the game, just missing the cat ring for that sweer invasion pvp
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>>182493061
Just go to NG+ you flaming faggot.
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>>182492546
>Ocelotte is Gundyr
Could subscribe to this
>dancer is queen of lothric
In what shape or form? Other than both being linked to Gwynevere?

>mine
Andre is the blacksmith deity and either got fragmented when he died or he respawns somehow (not resurrect like undead)
Gwyndolin is actually a girl who wanted to be a boy
The Painted World is actually the Deep
>>182493061
In that case you should be able to run through the game back to where you get the ring in ~4 hours, since you don't actually have to kill the lategame bosses
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>>182493240
see
>>182490703
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>>182490704
You kinda need a guide if you want to do the quests. The game is not clear at ALL about what the consequences are for anything.

Like Anri. You can go to Smoldering Lake and never see Horace. Then if you spot Anri on the ledge and go talk to him, you'd have no reason NOT to tell of Smouldering Lake cause you wouldn't know Horace is hostile. Or you might think Horace is Yuria's person who will guide Anri.
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https://twitter.com/EpicNameBro/status/885177628206010368

FOKES
HE'S GONNA DO IT
HE'S GONNA FINALLY PLAY SCHOLAR
HE'S FINALLY DOING DS2 JUSTICE
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>>182493361
So you're a whiny bitch baby, got it.
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Which level range is more active for Darknight invades? sl30 +3 or sl60 +6?
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>>182487638
Doughnuts are a people food you silly cat.
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>>182493435
>epic miscarriage
*cringe*
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Are the servers down? I can't login on ps4. I'm connected to the internet just fine.
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>>182493482
>Don't want to give away any advantage in PVP
>Whiny bitch baby
gr8 argument man, very mature
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>>182493435
Stop posting this piece of fucking literal who trash already

anybody who follows along with that tripe already knows, and people who dont WANT to hear about that trash dont want it shoved in their face
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>>182493710
They won't listen. They'll continue to post it, thinking everyone cares.
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>>182493654
You'd rather bitch about the game being shit than put on your big boy pants, git gud, venture into NG+, and fucking deal with the consequences of your actions.

How is that not being a whiny bitch baby?
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>he's going to play best souls
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>>182493906
I'd love to go into NG+ but it'd make enemies in my world stronger which would lower my chances when I'm a host during an invasion.

I don't think the game is shit, I am pointing out one aspect that I dislike, hyperbole much?
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Hey guys, have you heard that ENB is finally going to play SOFTS?
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DARK SOULS 4 WHEN I NEED MORE
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>>182493936
>will piss people off if he likes it
>will piss people off if he hates it
Literally no way this can end well for anyone.
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>>182493710
A lot of people stopped following him when he started whining about DS3 and stopped playing Souls.

Based on the number of greentexting fags in his youtube comments alone a lot of /dsg/ people are bound to be interested in him doing Souls again.

>>182493631
Yea yea we know the memes. But this is about him finally playing DS2 and giving his final judgment on Souls 2.
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In relation to Dark Souls 1
What is your opinion on divine blessings, humanities and mushrooms fully healing a player?
What is more fair: players that come prepared with a low requirement healing spell to compensate for lack of estus (or no estus as a phantom) or having 99 of the items mentioned before?
Is humanity fair because its slow to fully heal?
If the items mentioned before didn't heal at all, could that be good for PvP?
Are battles of attrition justified by humanity being "rare" and "punishable"?
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>>182493710
just report him
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Anyone on PC wanna help an sl25 beat friede on NG+? Pass is dsg
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>>182494356
why would somebody care what this numale failure thinks
i guess only aimless losers who look up to fucking youtubers lmao
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>>182492178
You aint seen nothing
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/221686
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>>182494119
>but it'd make enemies in my world stronger which would lower my chances when I'm a host during an invasion.
Translation: [whiny bitch baby noises]
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>>182494553
>not fighting her at SL1 NG+7

How does it feel to be a shitter, faggot?
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>>182494724
so you would willingly give away power? You seem dumb.
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>>182494856
I can be your friend anon. It's ok
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>in duel at pontiff
>start using fire surge for chip damage to bait the other
>dodging and using fire surge for about 30 seconds
>the host jumps down and starts attacking me and 4 phantoms join in
wtf triggered this autism?
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>>182494384

>dbs, shrooms
Too rare to use in PvE as death isn't a big penalty. If you're playing with permadeath rules you'll want to use them. Too good and too rare to use in PvP and will instantly mark you as a cheater even if the items were legit. Many players have a stack of their own of 99 of both of them to use in return.

>humanity, estus
Fair in both PvE and PvP. They're even encouraged in PvP by good players.
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>>182493435
You really need to consider killing your self.
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>>182495018
>Many players have a stack of their own of 99 of both of them to use in return.

How is this supposed to be fair? Doesn't this create a terrible attrition environment?
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>>182492546
Velka was Gywn's wife.
It makes sense that one of their sons would have such a prominent connection with sin/punishing sinners. The Book of the Guilty further suggests that Velka and the Darkmoons were related, saying that Velka oversaw a list of sinners that would ultimately face the Blades. Same thing with Indictments.
The complete absence of anything relating to her in Anor Londo can actually still be explained fairly easily. In DS2, the "first sin" is more or less hinted at being Gwyn's decision to link the fire and artificially prolong their age. This would have no doubt made Velka appalled, having someone so close to her commit such a terrible sin against the order of the world. It makes sense that she would have cut ties with Gwyn and his family and bailed out entirely, taking everything with her. This would actually explain why she's considered a "rouge deity" (from Vow of Silence in DS1), and why so many things related to Velka are in Ariamis, which is essentially a place for things that don't belong elsewhere or have been hidden/thrown away.

There's cut content that says Velka and Gwyndolin were supposed to be rivals of a sort, but I don't think that inherently disproves any of this. Either way, I don't think cut content is exactly cannon.

Vaati would be proud.
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Okay. You can only choose one to be canon. Dark Souls 2 or Dark Souls 3. With Dark Souls 2 you get a lot of relative ambiguity and hope for a meaningful future where you can fix the world. With Dark Souls 3 you get Miyazaki pissing all over the fans in a deliberate attempt to kill peoples' interest so he never has to make another one.

Which do you choose?
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>>182494921
If I'm mostly planning on invading other people then it doesn't fucking matter which NG cycle I'm on.

Also, seeds exist, so anyone with half a brain could use the more difficult enemies in NG+ against the invader.

Also, you should be able to deal with NG+ enemies. They aren't that hard.

So yeah, whiny bitch baby.
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>>182494648
You know that having a strong opinion on a videogame youtuber, regardless if its positive or negative just HAVING an opinion on this sort of shit makes you yourself a "numale" beta loser, right? Do you realize this?
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>>182494384
Humanity is really easily punishable, even if they manage to get the heal you'll probably still be able to backstab them so the heal is mostly negated.

Divine Blessing and the Mushroom are kinda bullshit though since it's faster than Estus AND heals you completely. But hey, if other people can get 99 of them, so can you.
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>>182495335
3 but I disregard your definition
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how are you supposed to counter shield turtles? Every WA that is supposed to break/bypass shields and kicks are too slow (because lol, this is roll souls), and knight slayer's ring does fuck all, even with ultra weps

is everyone basically expected to run an offhand MHS and poke them to death?
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>>182495378
I disagree with that, I still think it's a disadvantage for the host to be in a world with ng+ enemies.
You're very immature btw
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>>182495282

>How is this supposed to be fair?
It's not, those items are too good, especially the mushrooms. If someone eats a mushroom it's better to just not attack them and wait out the healing effect. DBs can be defeated by chain backstabbing, but if you can't do that the player eating DBs is basically invincible. It takes only three DWGR flips and a DB to safely restart a fight. Estus and Humanity are slow enough to be interrupted by kicks or backstabs.
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>>182495401
>stop insulting muh favorite youtuber :((
what kind of argumentation is that?
control your salt you little baby lel
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>>182494531
>report posts that are about videogames discussed by this general
Good luck champ.

>>182494284
Yeah, it's gonna be a mess.
>DaS2 haters are going to lynch him if he likes DS2 ehile not playing TRC
>DaS2 lovers are going to lynch him because he'd be kicking someone who is already down by shitting on DS2
>even the DaS2 lovers are going to be split over Scholar and vanilla

Too bad I'm working when he streams probably but if not I'll be sure to have a giggle at that shitshow.
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>>182495903
you e celeb fuckwits do this on /v/ too
no one cares about ENB stop samefagging
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>>182494284
>>will piss people off if he likes it
>>will piss people off if he hates it
The way I see it, it's a win-win
>>182494384
DB/shrooms being limited as a balance is a bad idea, since it's easy as fuck to spawn them, dupe them. They should have longass animations, like the red water from 2 but slower. Humanity is somewhat punishable, healing close to a player is a guaranteed backstab
>>182495709
AI will never and has never been an issue. The host doesn't even have to fight the enemies. If you're so bad at pvp you have to gank, just clear the area before embering and summoning
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>>182495432
Dark Souls 3 is "I'm going to piss over everything you loved, tell you every bad ending is canon, and that everything you did amounts to nothing and there's nothing you can do about it."

As I'm not Swedish, that doesn't appeal to me.
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>>182495410
>>182495772
>>182495018
Just bringing this up because I wanted to know other people's thoughts on a certain modder to be changing some pvp elements of Ds1 for the sake of balance but he is leaving those healing items as is on live, I was not sure how to feel about the lack of the change, or no talk about limitations on these items for pvp.
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>>182495861
If I was talking to somebody in real life and they said they loved pewdiepie, Id lose a little respect for them. If that same person however told me they HATED pewdiepie, Id lose just as much respect for them, maybe even more honestly.

Like, theres so much that has to have gone wrong in your life for you to even have an opinion on something like this, let alone have such a strong feeling that you sperg out anytime someone brings up the subject.
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>>182496121
>As I'm not Swedish, that doesn't appeal to me.
Is this "go back to /pol/" bait? if so It's too obvious.
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>>182494384
Divine blessings and mushrooms should have never existed or you should be able to buy infinites because it allowed people to mule / ce a 99 stack and then go "nuh uh I totally played through the game 30 times to get them legit"

Meanwhile in BB the only healing item you can get outside of vials is a tube of menstruation blood you can only hold 1 of and can't put any in your storage. Considering how shit they are I'd allow for storage of 5 of them.
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>>182495302
>n DS2, the "first sin" is more or less hinted at being Gwyn's decision to link the fire and artificially prolong their age.
that's what most people thought but it also struck me as odd since it happened strictly after the witch created/became the bed of chaos, which we also know is a grave sin. after trc, we know that the first sin, what aldia was talking about, was branding mankind with the dark sign.
>There's cut content that says Velka and Gwyndolin were supposed to be rivals of a sort
I've seen this passed around but no source is ever provided. we only know she ran a covenant
>rouge
>cannon
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what's the meta on this?

does it mean welcome or what is it?
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>>182496236
i did not know who this piece of shit was until you spammed the thread with it, you living failure
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Man going through DaS2 takes too long.
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>>182496513
it means what is it, unless u use it when approaching a fightclub or someone intentionally, I guess.
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>>182495335
3

The hopelessness and sense of inevitability of the Souls games was always one of their defining traits in my eyes.
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>>182495282
Just imagine
>Fighting a guy
>He's losing
>Runs and pops a humanity
>Fair enough, you kinda let him get away with it anyway
>Fighting more
>He's losing again
>Runs, but this time pops a Diving Blessing and you couldn't have punished it if you tried
>Whatever
>More fighting
>He's losing yet again
>Runs and pops another Diving Blessing
>You, at full health, pop a Divine Blessing
>He stops in place, realizing you have your own 99 stack of Divine Blessings, so even if he manages to land an attack you can just heal it back up as quickly as he can
I love making shitters realize they're bad
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>>182496149
>certain modder
Is that the same dude/team that was making the moveset overhaul? How's that going?
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>>182496531
Yes you did. You know who he is, youve seen more than one of this youtube videos, and you most likely know very intimate details on his personal life. Why are you acting like you're too cool all of a sudden to give a shit about a youtube lets player? Is it because you realize now its a pretty pathetic thing to give a shit about?
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>>182495469
Knight Slayer's Ring does plenty you retard. You guardbreak greatshields in 3 hits with an ultra weapon while using it, almost always.

Alternatively, anything with Shield Splitter/Blind Spot
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>>182496149

The animations should be slower. DB cures status effects, so it will still be different from Humanity. Mushrooms should be really slow, something you have to really plan ahead before using.
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I still can't pick a build to go with
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>>182496710
what kind of hobby psychologist do you think you are
holy shit stop this cringe for gods sake and kys
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>>182496736
>implying you'll get more than 2 hits in before they panic roll away and regen all their stamina
blind spot is pretty good, despite its low damage, but shield splitter is way too slow
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>>182496880

Can't go wrong with STR.
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Will giving myself maxed out Seigbrau flag me? It seems like the sort of item that would flag me.
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>>182496513
I like to use it after killing someone as an off-brand Well, what is it?
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>>182496664
Didn't want to namedrop to avoid free advertising his mod, but he's basicaly doing a cheat engine mod that wants to make ds1 have ds2 and ds3 spells, faster ugs swing speeds, matchmaking rebalancing, also some covenant stuff like gravelords in NG, quelaag's full covenant interactions.
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>>182496006
>no one cares
Enough people care since people talked a lot about the Matthewmatosis vid as well.
Look, I understand that posting about ecelebs when it has nothing to do with videogames is kinda shit but here we have the unthinkable : the Gwyn of the Dark Souls fan community coming back from a long break from Souls to give a second look to one of the most contentious games discussed in the general. I think it warrants some discussion imo.
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>>182496149
Just make it so you can only hold as many as you can legitimately find in one single playthrough.
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>>182496880
Then go quality and later build around the weapons you used the most
>>182497035
Siegbrau? You mean estus? I seriously doubt SB can be upgraded. Just drop yourself the boneshards/flask shards
>>182497143
Why the fuck would you not "namedrop", you're not exactly shilling
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>>182496506
Yeah, good point about the first part. Linking the Fire wasn't the First Sin. It was still a sin regardless though, so maybe it still works.
I only brought up the "cut content" bit since, like you said, it always gets thrown around. I didn't actually use it to make any points.
>rouge
>cannon
See pic, it is definitely cannon.
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What are the MANDATORY bosses assuming I'm starting at the shrine of winter in dark souls 2? Trying to rush NG+.
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>>182496710
>know very intimate details on his personal life.

Just because you're some obsessive no life stalker doesn't mean we're all no life stalking losers like you are.

Seriously kill your self. You couple of guys who post the same shit every single last time I visit these threads with the same exact reply chain need to kys.

It's probably just a single guy samefagging every single day. Find a girl or get a real hobby. That youtuber will never acknowledge your existence yet you worship him. Very very sad honestly. Literally worst than Lucifer.
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>>182497416
No, I mean just giving myself as much Siegbrau as I can store in my inventory, for if I want to go maximum cancer while invading and just attrition people to death.
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>>182497542
If giving myself 99 Great Champion Souls doesn't flag me then I doubt Siegbrau will either.
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What happened to Little Dusk?
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>>182497016
So what's the most STR weapon one can STRly wield? Great Club or Greataxe?
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>>182498030

Great Club.
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Using backstep and follow up R1 is severely underrated.
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>>182496382
I've had bad experiences today with a game made by Swedish devs where I basically went through a nightmare to pull off what should've been a simple feat.

It was referring more to that than the meme, but it runs parallel.

I just don't like things that seem to sanctify misery.
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>>182497428
You don't get it. I'm not denying that Velka being a ROGUE goddess is CANONical, I'm just mocking your common mistake.
>>182497496
Pretty sure everything from that point forth
>>182497542
Whatever can be dropped by other players will never flag you and in my experience any non-impossible item will fly under the radar. I don't know for gems/titties though.
>>182497956
Manus fugged her gud
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>>182497428
>>rouge
>>cannon
>See pic, it is definitely cannon.
He's criticizing your spelling. It's "rogue" and "canon" respectively.
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>>182497016
>STR
absolutely disgusting
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Post webms
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Recommend me some neat power stance pairings, I'll try em all.
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>>182497143
I think he's using more than CE, there's some programs that decrypt the archive of the game's files for editing and you can edit the exe launcher to make it look for the modified files outside of the encrypted archives
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>>182495335
Dark souls 3, were you expecting some happily ever after ending to this series? The games are about the inevitable death of every kingdom and every empire, every person, and eventually even the universe itself will expirence heat death.
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>>182491410
doesnt look too bad
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>>182498524
Axe + Axe
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>>182498237
Gems appear to be fine, I've given myself tons of them. Titanite, I'm pretty sure it will only flag you if you haven't yet progressed to a point in the game where you can obtain infinite numbers of that particular type of titanite.
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What expression is this face trying to convey?
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>>182498902
Grimacing in pain.
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>>182498902
Looks pretty similar.
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>>182498902
"Heh, I can't see shit. That will show' em"
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>>182498423
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>>182498902
>when you've been bathing for far too long and you look like a fucking raisin and every part of your body hurts
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>>182499153
luci I want your opinion on this >>182494384
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>>182498237
>>182498242
Oh, of course. I must be having a stroke or something; I'm not very bright but I never fucking mix up words like that, fuck.
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Hi guys, humble bundle scrub here (DS2).

In Forest of Giants, just got to a part where an eagle or some shit drops a huge guy in armor, who proceeds to rek me.

When I get to that part again though, he doesn't spawn. Actually a few normal enemies don't, either. Did I miss my chance to kill him? I really wanted to fight him
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>>182496982
Lucerne R2
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is itemswapping in divine blessings generally safe?
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>>182499272
>>182494384
Humanity is fine because of how slow it is. The others were broken. They were supposed to be balance because they were rare, but that's stupid because players will just dupe them.

BB is the game that does PvP healing the best.
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>>182499519
You'll encounter him later on, don't worry about it.
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>>182498423
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>>182499580
ok thanks
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>>182499253
>to add insult to injury they make casters wear stupid looking shit like the crown and the candle stick in order to not suck.
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>>182499614
Oh alright, thanks anon. Would anything have changed if I killed him first try?

Also there was this fella who's warrior companion went into a part of the castle that had a door that locked inmediatly upon entering. Fella said he had tthe warrior's ring.

After completing that part of the castle (entering by the back) the guy talked me to a bit. Then he was gone.

Should I have killed him for the ring? Didn't wanna do it, seemed like a dick move
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>>182499923
>Would anything have changed if I killed him first try?

If I remember correctly you can get a ring earlier than normal if you kill him there.
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Best way to get 30 sheckles?
Invading or should I just get summoned as a friendly phantom and betray the host at a bad time? Is anyone even stupid enough to trust a purple?
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I accidentally killed the emerald harald. Can I respawn her with an ascetic or am I fucked?
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>>182500136
If you have the obscuring ring you could just invade and try and take out a ganker's phantoms since that can get you a shackle
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I kinda miss upgrading armors. I think they've gone a little too far to make sure hosts don't get twinked.
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>>182500294
So just one phantom, and it doesn't matter which type?
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>>182500175
In DS2, every NPC in the game will spawn a gravestone after a set amount of time in-game has passed. You'll be able to interact with her normally at the grave, but at the cost of souls.
It can take several hours for the grave to appear. For the Emerald Herald, it's 5 hours of in-game time, which is shitty but also the only way.
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>>182500316
armor is completely useless in ds3
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>>182500427
It depends on how many there are. When you summon in it will tell you how many you need to kill.
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>>182498524
Great Hammers
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>>182500445
Thanks. I'll just use my backup save from an hour ago.
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>>182500316
Same. I also miss Endurance being tied to equip load.
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Anyone have that autistic screeching edit where Pontiff has Flandre Scarlet's wings and is saying something like "let's give anor londo back to men" and Aldritch is autistically moaning?
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How active are the online for all the previous games?
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>>182500035
Oh okay. Thanks a lot anon.

Just found a fucking titanite slab and a chloranthy ring. This is awesome
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>>182500958
1 - dead outside of reddit communities
2 - fairly lively if you're on sotfs
3 - most of the bunch but recently it's been dwindling after over a year of highly active playerbase
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>>182500958
Scholar duels are very active, though invasions never happen because of Soul Memory and the lack of a Red Eye Orb.
You'll likely get invaded a few times running through Anor Londo in DaS1, but it's pretty rare otherwise.
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is ornstein the nameless king?

is smough aldrich?
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>>182501424
>>182501436
what about demons souls did they kill the servers yet?
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Where should I go after the forest of fallen giants?
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>>182501585

I don't think so, haven't checked in a few months though. Anyways, DeS servers aren't very active, it's quite rare to meet anyone. DaS1-3 are pretty active on PC at least.
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>>182501424
>fairly alive on sotfs
literally nobody invaded me when i played through it for the first time this year and the only summon signs i saw were at sentinels, raime and burnt ivory
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I am ashamed to admit that it took me a while to realize no, my character isn't going into Stance for some reason, the DS3 Claymore's 2h rolling attack is just THAT SLOW.
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>>182501832
>literally nobody invaded me
Because it's not worth the effort when you don't have a full orb and people disconnect half the time anyway.
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Anyone playing DaS3 on Xbox want to help me out with the ringed city? I'm at the mausoleum lookout right now.
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After finally playing through NG+ I'm now seeing Dark Souls as groundhog day, not in relation to the cycles but to journey 2 and beyond
>Infinite leveling so you can have your character be good at everything and abuse enemies weakness after learning them
>Restarting npc quests which screw over each other, allowing you to complete all of them in the end
>None you do matters since the game will always restart in the end, best you can do is not interact with anyone at all
My NG+7 run finished with end of fire ending, it was fitting imo
Opinion on this? Is it the point? it's stupid but I needed to get it out, thanks for reading anon
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Do healing miracles scale with INT when you use the Crystal Chime?
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>Summoning another phantom...
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>>182502454
Spellbuff. Like everything else in 3.
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>>182502498
My world
my rules
:)
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>>182502498
What is the purpose of pic related
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>>182484208
>>VOTE FOR THE MOST AESTHETIC WEAPONS
>can't see poll results
Why even bother? I fucking hate when you retards do this.
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>>182497496
>Dragonriders
>Giant Frog Thing
>a dragon
>Vestaldt
>Vendrick
>Giant Lord
>Throne Watchers
>Nashandra
>Aldia
Out of order, but I think that's it besides the DLCs.
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>>182502498
invading is a meme you're better off leaving your sign down somewhere
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Rolling is so ridiculous in DaS3. Only way to hit people with my spells is if they're off being distracted by mobs or something.
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>>182503016
Nah, part of the fun is winning despite all the shit From's done to casualise this game for co-op.
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Should I do a Caestus or Bone Fist power stance? Is there a combination? Is vanquisher's seal worth grinding out? I have 99 dex and str at the cost of everything else, definition of a min max build.
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>>182499678
>the open fist parry
jesus christ he never had a chance
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>>182503208
>implying spells could ever hit anyone in any souls game
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>>182499749
Ahhh, just as I was thinking of getting back on my mage character you've reminded me why I shouldn't even bother
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>>182503316
I agree 100% but it fucking sucks when it's 1v4 or 2v4 and all of the host+phantoms are using splitleaf """greatsword""" and they also aren't braindead retards that you can cheese a win on.
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>>182502897
Because memsters shit the poll fulll if their favorite weapon is not Number 1.
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>>182503361
>
Use all three faggot, they are all amazing
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>>182503361
Bonefist + Caestus powerstance seems to be a popular choice.
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>>182503208
casters are annyoing sub humans anyway
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>>182502810
washncut
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>>182503361
>>182503518
And I mean Caestus + Caestus as weapon 1, Bone Fist + Bone Fist as weapon 2 and Fist as weapon 3
And yes vanquiser seal makes Fists the goat
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People should be forced to pay with souls to summon phantoms, with the cost being 500 x their level.
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Password was a mistake.
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>>182503361
Speaking of bonefist, it's a damn shame they were replaced with the not so great demon fist.

>tfw no jump kick running attack
>tfw no wombo combo like a fucking martial artist
>tfw no hadouken

I want it all back.
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>>182503778
or you could just not invade
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>>182503208
What spells are you using?
I've found high cost spells to be a huge waste in PVP.
Great Soul Arrow for catching people trying to run away, Great Heavy Soul Arrow for distracted people, Great Farron Dart for people trying to drink.
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>>182503778
My world
My rules
:)
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>>182492546
Pinwheel isnt actually a wheel rather 3 dudes on each other being gay
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Why do people say Catacombs in DS1 is hard?
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I don't want to start playing DS3 because I know I'll just keep playing until fucking 2am or some bullshit
help me /dsg/ I have a problem
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>>182504462
Because they're tards that went there as soon as they got to firelink on their first playthrough.
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>>182503701
Working on getting the seal now. One question, how much poise do I need for this? Should I go havelmom?
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>interrupt another player's game with invasion
>bitch about said invasion not going to plan
Invasion matchmaking should just prioritize players by DS2-style Sin, so all the twinks and hackers can enjoy eachother's company.
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>>182504765
>interrupt another player's game with invasion
Don't play online if you don't want to be invaded.
It's part of the fun, I just wish it didn't prioritize people playing on easy mode over solo players.
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>>182505083
>invaders crying over challenge
Based Miyazaki making the pvp funny
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1 phantom should be max. 2 and 3 are overkill.
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There's only two kinds of people out there, people who sit near the bonfire and people who sit in the bonfire. You have to be retarded to sit with your feet in a fire, and sane to sit near it.
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>>182505083
I don't mind invasions. I mind invaders shitting up /dsg/ complaining about the actions of hosts.
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What's a good level to invade Smouldering Lake?
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>>182505561
40.
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>>182505293
>>182505083
>>182503842
>>182503778
I love souls 2 and 1 red tears on /dsg/ really makes happier to point down and gank on them
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>Want to make a strength build for ds3
>remember all strength weapons are literal garbage except for Gundyr and those fucking twin greatswords
>go back to dark souls 1
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>>182506372
>.....
Bait harder then that sale kiddie
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>>182505295
>not wanting toasty toes
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can I go back to firelink shrine from anor lando without going through O&S first?
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>>182506804
Yes. Head back to the demon who flew you their and press the action/accept button to fly back to sens fortress
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>>182506636
>Getting ash and sand in your shoes
Enjoy a special kind of hell
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>>182507169
ash is actually very soft.
You ever run your fingers on the ash under the barbecue grill after it's all burned out and cooled off? Feels like ultra fine sand.
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>>182504765
Invading is part of the experience you shitter
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If you run into the same player multiple times is it okay to add them as friends on steam?
I don't wanna seem like a creep since they're a girl probably.
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>>182506910
I killed him
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>Lorian's Leggings slightly off colour in most lighting conditions
>Drakeblood gauntlets have a tiny bit of flesh showing at the inner elbow

It was so close
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>>182507587
Just roll with it my nignog.
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>>182507582
dont post gross pictures like this
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Are enemies removed from an area after you're killed/kill them too much?
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>>182507860
No, most respawn after a bonfire sitting
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>>182507742
I am, because Lorian's are the closest I can get to a colour match while still having some sort of cloth.
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>>182507949
I keep getting killed by those big guys 4u at Heide's Tower of Flame and now one of them is gone
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>>182508162
Enemies despawn in DaS2 because the game is SHIIIIIIIIIIT
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>>182507860
Are you talking about King's Field on your game boy color? No?

If sotfs, then yes.
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>>182508162
DS2 enemies despawn after about 15 or so kills
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>>182498902
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>>182507860
>>182508162
It's the game's way of telling you that you're shit and you've spent too much time failing to complete one area, so it's easier now.
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>>182508232
>>182508236
>>182508243
>>182508370
Aight thanks. I got a sweet armor off him before he went away anyways.

Will he never spawn again? I don't like that
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>>182508162
Join the champion covenant in majula and enemies will never despawn.
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>
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>>182508904
Doesn't that forbid me playing coop? Heard something like that
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>>182508631
You can burn Bonfire Ascetics to put a level into New Game+ difficulty, which will respawn all the enemies (and usually add new ones). Will be necessary later to acquire certain weapons/spells in an NG play through.

But seriously, you've spent too much time there. Kill the bosses and move on, or choose a different path.
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>SL 120 PvP
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>>182509060
No, but it does make enemies a bit stronger.
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Why is she so cute, bros?
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>>182509328
You posted that before.
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>>182509306
Alright, thanks.
>But seriously, you've spent too much time there. Kill the bosses and move on, or choose a different path.
Yeah I just kind of threw myself to the wall and hope I stick. I'll try harder now.

I don't think I have any other path right now. Other than using the soul of the Last Giant to buy those petrify curing branches and going to where I saw the statues (I think that's how that would work anyways=
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>>182492546
I can't shake the feeling that Yorshka is Gwyndolin's daughter...
You could argue that both are a little bit autistic and she doesn't understand the family relationship when Gwyndolin mentions "Father Gwyn" and "Sister Gwynevere" and she thinks its some sort of title so she repeats those phrases exactly as she heard them. As for who the mother is? I don't know, Priscilla maybe? That would give the posibility that the painting girl in Ariandel is also Gwyndolin's daughter
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>>182509676
I enjoyed manipulating the camera, trying to see under her lewd dress thing.

>filename
>2014
Damn, time just keeps flying by.
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>>182509867
Nonono, Gwyndolin is the mother. You should be asking who the father is.
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>>182509060
I makes the game a fuckload harder AND prevents all cooperative summons (even NPCs). It's not for new players.
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>>182509867
I like thinking that painter is descended from Priscilla, and Priscilla's mother was the painter of the Ariamis world as to give her daughter a home.
There's someone that looks like an older but dead Painter behind Ariandel too, after the bonfire to Dreg Heap. Maybe Painter's mother
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Is the Falchion still OP in DS1?
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>>182509831
The Giant dropped the Soldier Key, which opens most of the locked doors within FoFG. The next boss in that area is behind one of them, which opens up a new area beyond.
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I want to use a curved sword in ds1 for pve but I'm not sure which
Scimmy is cooler than Falchion but it's worse
I could use the weird ass one found in Blighttown or go grab a Murakumo off of the big spooks
bls help this poor anon with no decision making capabilities
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>>182510152
Ooh, that, I forgot. I should take a look later.
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>>182484208
Ok it's enough.
Lets clear one of the greatest questions in Dark Souls history:
Why do Giants suddenly have an Asshole as face in Dark Souls 2?
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>>182510265
Server
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>>182507810
you can't tell me what to do.
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>>182510443
Design was changed at the absolute last second. In-game lore, maybe these giants are a different race from the other giants we've seen.
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Anyone wanna drop me a hornet ring?
Im doing a low level cancer build and cant be bothered to fist dancer, not-seath and champ to death for one dumb ring
I'll trade it for pale shade set to make it worth you while
On ps4
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Is there ever any reason to go past 60 in a damage stat?
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>>182510724
80 Dex for maximum Sharp scaling and 66 STR if you want a couple more AR from the 2H bonus.
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>Sirris breaks Hod's guard and ripostes him with DMB on
>for 60 damage
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>>182510449
okay
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>>182510435
Also I just figured out I was at 73% encumbrance.

That wasn't good for my rolls, was it?
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>>182510710
Twinks should have to earn their items if they wanna be twinks
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>>182510495
Dumb nigga dog tried to attack a porcupine

that nigga gon' die

dumb ass dog
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>>182510951
Stay under 70 for fast rolls
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>>182510825
>it's a hodrick kills sirris before I even get in obscuring ring range episode

why did they nerf friendly npc phantoms so hard but leave enemy npc invaders alone? dark souls 2 was perfect in this aspect.
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>>182510825
It's shameful to think she's the granddaughter of Parry King Hodrick. She must have spiced DMB down enough to make Magerold proud.
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>>182510825
Sirris is bad at character building, apparently

>Estos with DMB on deals 50 damage to Creighton
>He smashes her stupid face in for 250 damage
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>>182510951
You'll have shit rolls and stamina regen if you're over 55-60, stay under 50 for optimization.
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>>182511046
Yeah, I noticed that I wasn't so much rolling as doing a frontflip and landing on my ass drunken style.

That's the only breakpoint I care about as a non caster right?
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>>182511114
She clearly invested in STR, made her estoc Hollow-infused and broke it, just so it would do as little damage as possible.
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>>182511048
I wouldn't say they're completely useless, the Pale Shade actually did surprisingly well against the Abyss Watchers earlier for me.
But yeah, the friendly NPCs in 2 were incredible, notably ones like Bradley, Boyd, Glencour, even Luet with his twin Greatshields of Glory.
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>>182511178
Actually ignore this >>182511046 i thought you were talking about DS3
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>>182510710
Post build.
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>>182500915
please respond
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Let me think here.

I've fought the titanite demon before, so I know I could easily do it again.
Now, why would this specific coffin have an option to nestle up inside?
Hmmmm.
Is this demon different from the others? I'm pretty close and it hasn't aggro'd.
What would hiding accomplish?
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>>182511798
The coffin has nothing to do with the demon itself, but grab the items behind it then go in the coffin and wait.
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>>182511798
It steals your souls and humanity, don't do it.
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>>182511158
>implying twinking exists when ''''scaled down'''' password summoning is a thing
I just wanna 1shot darkhand wa players dumb enough to walk into it. Dont deny me this
>>182511393
Literally just pyro with 5 points from yoel dumped into vig, darkhand and exile set
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>>182511158
Meant to quote
>>182510975
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>>182511798
you bout to get boned
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>>182511798
go in there its pretty nito
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>>182512134
don't need more wannabe twinks. Put some actual effort into it.
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>>182492680
Wow thank god you were there to calitalize on two other people keeping them occupied.
You don't have a single webm of you succeeding an invasion without the hosts or phantoms being completely and totally distracted, yet you constantly argue that being a mage is a viable invasion build.
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>>182512538
>taking it this seriously
Whatever, my dude I'll just stick with dark clutch
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>>182511178
70% is fatroll, 37.5% is midroll, below is fastroll

50% is slow movespeed, 25% medium, below fast move

Equip load also affects stamina regen, but I don't know the points offhand.
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What kind of gear should I have if I want to be an absolute poise beast?
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>>182510825
What if her faith in what she is doing is right is wavering?
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>>182513127
Armor of the Sun set, Embraced Set and Ruin Sentinel set all have really good poise to weight ratio.
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>>182513127
Big gear
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>>182513597
Gundyr's too.
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What makes Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, and Bloodborne so great?
In Dark Souls item collection is the idea of the player. In Dark Souls 1 the first enemy is the docile hollow, who has no items and nothing can be collected from its corpse. The next enemies encountered are hollows wielding broken swords and bows. They drop their weapons on death and allow the player to use these items.
Imagine you're the player who encounters the Undead Soldier, wielding items: Hollow Soldier's Shield, Longsword, and Hollow Soldier Set. You slay the soldier to collect items. Equipping these allows you to become an Undead Soldier.
That the players are able to easily collect the aramaments of Hollow Soldier is what make Dark Souls truly amazing. The idea of Vagrant enemies is truly genius. Players are items, so the most fun part of Dark Souls is item collection. Places in the games where enemies drop inappropriate items are remembered as some of the worst experiences in the game. Frog-Rays drop Green Blossoms, which are a particularly valuable item, but it is inappropriate that a Frog-Ray drop that and nothing else. I hate fighting Frog-Rays.
Bosses in particular are enemies that must reward the player appropriate items. Ornstein and Smough are fondly remembered. The reward of armor and weapon allow the player to become Ornstein or Smough, depending on the chosen path. The Bed of Chaos rewards a Lord Soul and nothing else. I don't fondly remember the Gravelord Nito fight, because the reward is a Lord Soul. Despite Seath the Scaleless being one of the worse designed fights I rather enjoy cutting his tail to acquire the Moonlight Greatsword. I would not have minded the fight with Yhorm the Giant having the gimmick weapon, but the rewards are Soul of Yhorm the Giant and Cinders of a Lord. Dark Souls usually rewards the appropriate item to the player and it feels good, but when it shows a mistake and rewards inappropriate items it can really be felt as bad.
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>>182513728
>>182513642
>>182513597
Thanks bruhs
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>>182513831
Wow. That was actually worth the read.
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>>182512875
Here
>>182499253
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>>182513831
tfw i just finished my item collection today. Spent like 10 minutes looking at the screen. I never really gave a shit about truly finishing a game until I started playing Dark Souls a month ago. Gonna wait until 2 and 3 go on sale or something so I can see why they're called shit in comparison. I'd get BB if I had a PS4 but I don't so I'll settle with either of them.
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>>182512878
>he doesn't take his invading seriously
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>>182514515
Is it dumb to say that Bloodborne is worth $500+? I didn't pay that much to play it, but I might. I understand the price of the disk is not worth that much, and the cost is in the console hardware. The content of that disk is that kind of art, though. I wish I could do something to bring that to a windows pc.
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>>182514305
>Run into enemies so they are distracted
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>>182515028
I paid more than that to play DeS.
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>>182515124
I would not say that is a bad decision, but maybe I am dumb. The amount of value in these games just amazes me.
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>>182515028
>Is it dumb to say that Bloodborne is worth $500+?
Yes.
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DS2

Should I kill those dudes in white armor that are just sitting around

The ones that are more, huh, active try to kill me on sight

Both a gameplay and a lore question but the latter can be ignored if it spoils stuff
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>>182515120
the whole point of invading is to be a dick, it's not like honor dueling.
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>>182515330
The sleepy-looking guys in the Tower of Flame? Leave them be for now, they'll wake up eventually.
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>>182515480
That's kinda scary, the awake ones are mean

One of them in vanilla DS2 was in Forest of Fallen Giants carrying an electric sword if I recall, my friend killed him for it. He doesn't seem to be there in SotFS
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>>182515769
some enemies have changed locations, Heide Knights are one of them. If you're playing Scholar version, they WILL wake up and they can fuck you up pretty hard
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>>182515769
There's a very lost and confused one somewhere in the Gutter. He's guaranteed to drop the Heide Lance, and I need it.
Do not underestimate these guys, they are nasty.
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>>182515956
>>182516007
Oh fug
If I kill them while sleepy they will still respawn when I rest at the bonfire right?

Also I just discovered that the dragon looking thing I saw with my binoculars was, in fact, a dragon. Ouch. I saw the rider too.
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>tfw you realize that the entire floor of Aldrich's quarters is actually Aldrich himself and the consumed Gwyndolin is merely an extension of his frame

>tfw you realize that his mass can literally suck you in like a black hole but instead he decides to fight fair and square
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>>182515368
No, the point of invading is to remove their progression and take an ember and a covenant item. Furthermore, you seem to be misunderstanding, I'm not taking offense at running into enemies, I'm pointing out that you didn't even kill that person without making sure he was distracted by sheer number of enemy projectiles first.
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>>182516271
They should respawn, yes, but I'm not sure if they'll respawn awake. It's best to leave them alone until they're awake. Did you fight Dragonrider yet?
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>>182515769
they wake up when you kill one of the bosses in the zone iirc. They become really easy if you have a high DR shield, and/or ranged.
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I know the fate of games like these. New players coming in meet the elitist older players, hackers, and lack of content. Years later, the only people still playing are a handful of die hard veterans before time and real life pulls them away. Eventually the servers are shut down as there is not enough of a playerbase to justify leaving them open. I revel in the day no one remembers this series.
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>>182516575
I for one would be happy when pvp dies off. It was a mistake to begin with, the game's engine was designed for player versus environement.
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>>182515769
The one in FoFG was removed. The ones at Heide's can drop the sword now, and you can farm them for their armor set too.
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>>182516575
Name ONE game that's not a korean MMO that that happened to
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>>182516441
>Did you fight Dragonrider yet?
Not anything you would call a fight but yeah. I left him to fight eagle floating dude at the Forest.
>>182516452
>high DR shield, and/or ranged
I got a crossbow. Couple shields but I've been mostly going two handed so I have literally no practice. Haven't decided on a "build" tho, just leveling what seems appropiate.

I'll cross that bridge when I get to it I guess.
>>182516575
I'm a new player and people have been nice. Though I haven't gotten invaded and stuff
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>get summoned to covetous demon
>demon rolls twice over host and host fucking dies to fucking covetous demon
Sophie you absolute fuckin dolt
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>>182516575
>I've seen your kind, time and time again
fuck off Vilhelm go scream out of a cliff
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>>182517032
No one fights Dragonrider fairly. If you're done with the Pursuer, you should be able to get to a chunk of the Lost Bastille. Have you gone through No-Man's Wharf yet?
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>>182513831
for me it's the exploration and discovery. Crawling through a city ruins or a cave not know which way to go or what dangers lurk just around the corner. The feeling that any and all doors could lead to somewhere. Hunting down all the goodies stashed away in all the nooks and crannies. Then going through and doing that over and over again until I know every single area like the back of my hand. And finally never touching the game for years so I can try to live that sensation again
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>>182517117
>No one fights Dragonrider fairly.
I did.
It was kinda fun, I guess.
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WHAT THE FUCK
>pretty new to ds2, only 2 million SM
>got invaded in the gutter by a naked guy with no weapons
>he dodged my shit and back stabbed me for half my health and then killed me in one fist combo

Literally how is this possible??? Is he a twink or a hacker?
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>>182517117
;_;
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>>182517272
I did, too, because I kept messing up the cheese.
>>182517427
How do I interpret this? I never saw that movie.
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>>182517413

VANQUISH'd
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>>182517413
mebbe he was with the company of memes covenant
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>Host summons me to do Covetous Demon area
>goes into that area with a million sickle niggers
>fuckin dies
lmao
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>>182517512
>How do I interpret this? I never saw that movie.
"I understand some of these words"
I know the Pursuer is eagle dude but other than that I'm lost. I think I shouldn't ask, because spoilers
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>Gael is the first time I've ever felt satisfied fighting a souls boss
>there will never be another souls game again
FUCK. How do I get over this feel?
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>>182517778
Okay, where did you fight the Pursuer? Was it on a big platform you accessed with a small ladder, or was it behind a fog wall? And did you investigate the area after Dragonrider?
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You guys are dumb, poise in DS1 was pretty stupid stupid too.
>running R1 interrupted by a rat bite
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>>182510825
>when you invade Undead Settlement right as Hodrick appears
>while doing a sandwich with the host between hodrick and me, the fucker parries me and ripostes my shit
How
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>>182517896
Behind fog wall. On the big platform I got killed the first time I got to him and he didn't appear again

Didn't investigate after Dragonrider because I got killed by him, didn't investigate much of the other path because of the dragon
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>>182517117
Define "fairly." Because just strafing to the right causes the vast majority of his attacks to miss.

It's a shame because his moveset gains variety and his tempo increases the lower his health gets. I actually like Dragonriders as enemies, if they didn't have that one weakness they would probably be pretty fun to fight.
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dark souls 2 question:

How many souls do I need to open the shrine of winter in NG+? Thank you.
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>>182518082
Leave the part with the Dragon and come back later. Kill Dragonrider and you'll be able to progress more. The part right after is actually one of my favorite areas, with one of the best summons, my man Bradley of the Old Guard.
Pursuer only appears on that platform once, and the "boss" fight is at the fog wall. There should be a nest nearby, where you can curl up and travel to a new area. There's a second boss in the Forest, the Last Giant, did you fight him yet?
>>182518163
By "fairly," I mean "did not trick him off the ledge."
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>>182518383
6 mirrion
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>>182517881
You die or do it again. That's it, stop holding onto stuff, and instead be glad you were there to experience.
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What weapons benefit the most from high poise?
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>>182518415
>handfeeding this hard
man I know you want to help but leave something to explore
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>>182518643
Okay, I'll stop there. Go exploring.
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>>182518702
You're not doing a bad thing but surpassing this fear of exploring is part of the experience.
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>>182518163
Why am I reading spoilers in a general about games I haven't finished
Well I guess it's cool there's more than one rider, I kinda suspected it anyways
>>182518415
Hm okay, I might try killing the rider first. Didn't read this spoiler just in case.
Nest? I didn't see any of that. Is it after the boss?

Yeah I killed the Last Giant (haven't used his soul yet, the "perhaps..." in the description is fucking with me don't tell me if I'm fucking up). It was easy but I summoned a guy from his thingie to see how that worked.
>>182518938
>>182518643
It's fine! He hasn't really told me anything too spoily or anything
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>>182519152
The nest should be shortly after the Pursuer's arena, look for a bunch of hollows attacking a tree near there.
Who did you summon for Last Giant, Pate or Luet? Luet had the two Greatshields, Pate had a spear.
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>want to play some duels
>curved greatsword
>curved greatsword
>curved greatsword
>oh man, someone not using a curved greatsword!
>switches to curved greatsword 30 seconds in
I fucking hate curved greatswords man, where's the variety
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>>182519152
the spoiler isn't too spoilery, it's just about an NPC summon
Keep boss souls for later, you get some pretty cool shit.
Hope you checked that well in Majula, pal.
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>>182519302
>want to play some ng+
>invaded
>longsword
>longsword
>oh man someone not using a longsword!
>switches to longsword 30 seconds in
it sucks everywhere my man, just stop caring.
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>>182497158
>the Gwyn of the Dark Souls fan community
ugh

it's saying things like that which makes people not want to discuss him. It's the pretense that somehow his shitty opinions are more important than other people's shitty opinions, when both have no evidence and are just subjective values
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>>182519294
>The nest should be shortly after the Pursuer's arena, look for a bunch of hollows attacking a tree near there.
Oh yeah, I did see that. It didn't do anything when I inspected it so I forgot about it.
I summoned Pate. Luet sounds cool tho.
>>182519391
>Hope you checked that well in Majula, pal.
I checked the small one, I don't even remember what it gave me.

The big fugging hole in the ground, that one I didn't touch.
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>>182495335
dark souls 3 but I make dark souls 2 it's own separate franchise and continue producing more games.
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>>182519463
i just want some matches that don't boil down to biggest stick for some actual fun
I go through most areas embered to try and encourage it but I've only really been invaded by aldritch memesters in that one area

unrelated, vacbanned players can play online? last match had a vac ban guy
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>>182519701
There's 2 holes, there's a well with a rock you hit that gives you an estus shard
the second one, the Majula Pit, leads you to 2 areas: Rat King's crib, and after that, the Gutter
You need either Fall Control, or Feline Ring with ~15 VIG to survive the fall
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>>182518383
1 million, or just kill the four great ones.
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It's catacombs all over again.
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Pate fucking sucks, I'm happy I killed him the second time I saw him
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>>182519701
Luet is used as a damage sponge, but he can be incredibly useful in some fights. I won't go into details on the rest of Pate's questline, I'll leave that for you to discover.
However, it would be a good idea to backtrack to Dragonrider and clear out the areas after that. There's a bunch hidden in that area, so it would be a good idea to prepare to explore.
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>>182516335
So what happens when you beat him? Is he still the floor?
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>>182519936
in NG it's 1 million, in NG+ it's 6 million
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>>182517117
>No one fights Dragonrider fairly.
I do, because being able to parry bosses is one of the most fun things I can do in these games.
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>>182519998
Okay then Creighton
You can't deny that his spear is an absolute monster on a Dex build despite its poor durability.
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>>182520021
Oh, I missed the NG+ part. Yeah, seems like it'd be much quicker to just kill all the four starting big guys.
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>>182519864
>unrelated, vacbanned players can play online? last match had a vac ban guy
Doesn't matter since the worst kind of retard is already banned and on his twelfth account
>for some actual fun
Unfortunately people don't play for fun, they play to win or to make others lives worse.
If it's not being fun to you, just stop with the arena shit. It's really just a cesspool and you aren't getting anything out of it.
Since you're on pc try blocking that kind of people through steam, it apparently stops them from showing up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn4nRCC9TwQ&feature=youtu.be
Which Dark Souls has the worst animations?
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>>182520021
>>182519936
>>182518383

It's 1m from the start of the game, +1m for each NG level.

NG is 1m
NG+1 is 2m
NG+6 is 7m
etc.

But it's based on what you've earned AFTER the NG starts, not total soul memory.
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>>182519901
Yup, got the first one. I forgot it gave me a shard, that was pretty nice.
Not gonna read the spoilers but I thank you for writing them, anon.
>>182520007
Alright thank you.

Since you both guys seem nice and knowledgeable can you help me with >>182499923? The warrior part, the Pursuer bit you have already helped with
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>>182520134
>implying I had any idea of builds at the time
I just went with a maxed out poison rapier and one of Vengarl's swords, also poison but eventually magic, and tried to be balanced with my stats
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>>182519936
can I bring their souls with me into NG+ to unlock it that way?
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>>182520261
Did that guy in >>182499923 give a name? What did he look like?
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>>182520250
DS3, but they're so fast that you don't really notice how fucking weird they are. Lots of arm, wrist, and leg breaking, jerky unnatural movements. They feel the best when playing the game but as animations they suck.

DeS is second, because they are the same as DS1 except with weirder walking/running animations. DS1 is third, and DS2 has the best looking animations.

coincidentally, DeS and DS3 feel the best when playing despite looking dumb.
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>>182520261
The second and third spoilers are area names, the fourth spoiler is an item you get from the talking cat
You were talking about Pate. The Warrior he was with was Creighton, who you'll run into later. They don't like each other. They're both dicks.
Killing him will end a pretty memey, fun IMO questline where eventually you can kill either/both and get bonus sets/gear for your effort.
The ring is pretty shit. Whenever you get hurt, it deals small damage to the guy that hit you
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Are the dragon stones irredeemable garbage or have people actually figured out ways of making them usable?
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>>182520425
I can't blame you with a Poison rapier, especially Ricard's. However, Pate's Spear is just so stupidly powerful, it isn't even funny. It isn't terribly exciting to poke everything to death, but it gets the job done well.
And this struck me, the Executioner's Greatsword in 3, while not the most powerful thing around, would have been legendary in 2 from it dealing exclusively Strike damage.
>>182520584
I'd argue that Pate is much less of a dick, Creighton felt shifty from the get-go.
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>>182520430
Nope. It's not triggered by having the four great one's souls, it's triggered by the death prompt from the bosses. If you haven't obtained the death prompt for that NG level, then you won't get them.

You CAN however bring a bunch of souls of a great hero in with you and burn them once you reach majula. Farm the giant memories with an ascetic for Great Hero x3 and and Hero x3 per run, netting you 90k per ascetic used (it also grants you an ascetic so you can do it infinitely. 20 runs should give you enough that you can open the shrine at the start of NG+. add 10 runs for each NG+ level after that.

Souls of a Giant translate also, for the purpose of lowering vendrick's HP. It caps out at 5, so if you have more than 1 from being in NG+, you can burn them for an extra 10k each.
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>>182520778
C-Man felt shifty? Nah nigger, Pate had Patches written all over him from the moment he sends you into a trap in FOFG. Every encounter has him sending you off to some trap or something.
Creighton was transparent as fuck. Some guy locked him up, and he wants to bash his shit in for it.
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>>182520250
Bloodborne
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>>182520456
He didn't I think.. He looked, dunno. Like a lot of people in the game I think, just sitting and waiting. Not rotten I think.
>>182520584
>the fourth spoiler is an item you get from the talking cat
That is kinda something I didn't want to know I guess but I don't know how to get it don't tell me so it's fine. Thanks.

That wasn't the same Pate that I summoned for the last giant right?

Yeah I assumed I'd run into the warrior later and get something of a quest for it.

Ring does sound shit indeed, glad I let the fella live.
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So let me get this straight. Armor in Ds3 is basically just for aesthetics? It really doesn't seem to do jack shit.
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>>182520760
the only situation where they make sense is to use the dragon's roar on a hypermode build, to get an extra boost damage that would otherwise prevent you from a 1 hit kill on a player.

Since the defense lost by using dragon form is so bad that the only way to use them is to not get hit at all and take advantage of the damage boost.
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>>182521070
>Don't know how to get it
Anon, Shalquoir just wants to sniff you a bit.
Also yes, it was the same Pate you summoned for Last Giant.
IIRC, the +2 version of the ring is decent or something, but getting that is the most cancerous thing ever.
After you killed Dragonrider, you should've walked up to an NPC that wanted to jew you for miracles. If you haven't already, exhaust all her dialogue.
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There sheckles are taking forever. 15 in about 4 hours.
Am I completely misunderstanding the "kill one summon" thing? Because I've been killing summons like crazy and the only thing that consistently gets me a duty fulfilled is killing the host.
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>>182521407
With Pink if they summon more or if a blue gets summoned then you have to kill even more phantoms to fulfill your duty.
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>>182521012
He was okay in Earthen Peak, just hanging out among the poisonous pots and willing to donate all his stuff if he survived the Last Giant fight. Creighton had "serial murderer" written all over him, Cale even pointed him out as such. And Pate didn't try to ambush me in Irithyll shortly after I had to walk an incompetent Darkmoon through the fight.
I wanted Pate to come back in TRC as Lapp, and the only way to tell would be to wear Creighton's armor.
>>182521070
The guy you're thinking of is probably Pate, who helped you with the Last Giant. His partner is Creighton, who's somewhere else.
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>>182521313
>Anon, Shalquoir just wants to sniff you a bit.
Oh yeah. That's shit's creepy mang. Pic related.
>>182521313
>killed Dragonrider
>killed
>ed
Ayy. Tomorrow, maybe. Also yeah I exhaust dialogue of everyone I think (maybe not the cat I guess, or I missed something don't tell me).

I'll stop asking shit now before I get really spoiled.
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>>182521512
>in TRC as Lapp, and the only way to tell would be to wear Creighton's armor
Shame that From wants to wipe Dark Souls 2 lore off the history books.
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>>182521183
Look at the absorption numbers, not defense. Armor is a % scalar that reduces all damage you take, defense is a flat reduction based on your soul level.

23% absorption = 77% damage taken after defense
40% absorption = 60% damage taken after defense

1 point in weight cap gives you ~0.6% total absorption, 1 extra defense, and ~1 poise, which is actually quite a lot. It's effect is way more noticable in pvp though, rather than pve, since pve attacks tend to be lower damage and closer to your defense, with more multipliers applied.
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>>182521620
Come on anon, just give Shalquoir some pets. Come on.
Touch the cat. Do it now.
I've fapped to all 5 steps, fight me
After you kill* Dragonrider by >rolling to your right and exhaust this jew's dialogue, she can be found back in Majula to unlock a new area for you, for a Jewish fee.
Remember to keep talking to Shalquoir and let her sniff you
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>>182521183
Not really, but what's important is having a slot in each of the four armor positions at all times. Not having a piece of armor equipped for any of them gives a severe defense penalty. Beyond that the main value of armors is getting defenses and poise, and defense doesn't matter much beyond 25 ABS.
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>>182521635
Despite a chunk of TRC being a huge reference to 2, between Earthen Peak, Zoey, the Ruin Sentinels, Alva invading again, the Black Witch Set, you get the idea, we couldn't get our mild-mannered fellow travelling hither and thither, even in a disguise. Maybe I'll do a Pate build in 3, I was already thinking about Bradley.
I'm just glad that we found that Gilligan died the way he wanted to live, surrounded by ladders and money.
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>>182521467
Fuck.
I think I'll just start crystalling out then when they bring in blues and extra summons, Warmth isn't worth this much of my time.
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>>182520250
DaS2 has mocap, so it automatically wins
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>>182521921
I'm just glad Giligan died.
It's like an Irish jew. Now that I think about it, why are there so many god damn jews in DS2?
Cat Jew. Nigger Jew. Miracle jew. Ladder jew. Wizard jew. Sorcerer jew. Dragon covenant jew.
What's with all the fucking jews?
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>>182522087
>Dragon covenant jew
Don't talk shit about my boy Magerold like that, the man was the only way to lower Faith and Int requirements.
He really couldn't have picked a worse spot, though, I've gotten jumped by Alonne Knights while talking to him before.
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>>182502374
I'm nobody's lord and don't take kindly to other people telling me my destiny.

What do you think Yuria's true end game was?
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>>182521012
>Creighton was transparent as fuck. Some guy locked him up, and he wants to bash his shit in for it.

Except if you talk to cale, he mentions that creighton might be a straight up serial killer that is pretending to be someone else and hiding in drangleic, and creighton's armor is a fake copy of a knight of Mirrah.

The fact that pate's laughter or creightons dialogue can be heard (depending on who is alive) when you open the chest in brightstone means that there is no true canon explanation for which one was telling the truth. That's deliberate, it was intended to be vague because it relies on both of them (and cale) losing their memories as they go hollow.
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>>182502374
anon, that was dumb, but you're welcome, I enjoyed the read
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>>182522087
Except none of the greedy characters in DS2 were in huge positions of authority, they were just merchants trying to survive in a hostile world. All the badass people in DS2 never ask you for anything.

DS1 had a straight up conspiracy against you set up by manipulating greedy assholes. Plus it had it's own share of greedy merchants too.
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>>182522297
Find whatever sucker believed in Yoel and exploit them to put the First Flame in your overpowered puppet. Orbeck posed no real threat, he just wanted to teach sorceries and be left alone, but Yuria wanted his head. Anri had no outstanding qualifications other than being an Undead, Unkindled, whatever, but Yuria decided she was completely necessary for this usurpation to work. There's no substance or importance in Yuria's directives other than ensuring she has complete control over you, and can freely manipulate you, something that will be crucial when you become their "gracious Lord."
Essentially, she wanted to see how much control she had over you, and by the time you had the First Flame, she was in the driver's seat.
>>182522503
Laurentius was a nice guy, though.
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>>182522639
Laurentius was too dumb to survive.
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>Fatrolling hosts
Does anything fill you with as much joy, as an invader?
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>>182522746
Yes, but he was nice. Everyone else was just mean and condescending.
How did he get kidnapped by the Butchers or Mildred? He had pyromancies, was it really that hard to kill some cannibalistic bitch with an oversized cleaver and a sack on her head?
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>>182520778
>Lucatiel
>rapier
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>>182522639
>but Yuria decided she was completely necessary for this usurpation to work.

Yuria has you kill Anri because Anri is hollowed. In order to be a vessel for the first flame, you need to be SUPER DUPER hollowed and that can only be achieved by getting more dark sigils than a normal person can obtain. The marriage with anri gives you extra dark sigils, allowing you to enter some sort of uberhollow state.This is necessary in order to be able to absorb the first flame.


Killing orbeck is about proving loyalty though, for sure.
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>>182520778
>little maldron

holy fuck I love it

new wallpaper time
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I'm going to start a new Blue Sentinel character in Scholar!

All sinners beware!
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>>182522907
You ever tried to kill Sullivahn with fireballs? This dick dodges 2/3 of them. So, Mildred could do the same.
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>>182486785
>so much damage
what
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>>182523084
Worst covenant. I don't even know what they do but I didn't want to join the very first religion in case it was a trap
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>>182523084
you poor soul

if you want to waste time on dead pvp, I suggest being a looking glass knight invader. At least you'll get maybe one invasion a day. if you spam red sign stone 24/7
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>>182523213
they're the same from 3, babby hosts that need help against invaders.
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>>182522639
Yea I had a feeling she was just using the Ashen One. The dark ending seems like the most logical choice. Give the world a good hard reset by ushering in a true age of dark and wash away everything. Then eventually new life will spring out of the blackness and you'll become the silent observant goddess of the next world.
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>>182522972
And this couldn't have been done with any other Hollow in the area? Not even Horace? What about the Pale Shade, he seems like a nice guy. I'd imagine Yuria is Hollow, why not her? The marriage doesn't mean she'd be gone permanently, Anri comes back in the Lord of Hollows ending somewhere in the background.
>>182523102
Pontiff? First time I fought him was on a pyro. Vestiges turned him inside out, could one-shot his clone.
>>182523064
For me, he's always been saying "Go get 'em, tubby" to the oddly placed Covetous Demon there.
>>182523213
Isn't the Brotherhood of Blood a religion? Offering blood sacrifices to Nahr Alma, a war god? And couldn't you say Pate worshiped Kremmel since he had the Ring of Thorns?
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>>182486537
if ps4, omegapiaya
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>>182522835
Hosts with just one or no summons.
Hosts who actually know when to use a seed effectively.
Hosts who at least try to make some progress through the level.
The complete absence of downscaled babysitters.
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>>182522907
>How did he get kidnapped by the Butchers or Mildred?

Sleeping in the depths
Hungry and asked them for food
Clumsy and fell into the barrel
Tried to pet the doggos
Offered to sell them pyromancy.
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>>182523484
I'm willing to believe one of these theories
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>>182523357
Horace goes mad, the other people are unembered/ash, not hollowed (there's a difference). They don't have dark sigils, only Anri does.
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>>182484509
>A reverse reverse gank squad

holy shit
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This is worse than Farron Keep holy shit I can't see anything past 5 feet. WHAT THE FUCK.
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>>182523776
DS3 swamps are bad because of their quantity, not quality.
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>>182523647
Okay, I'm willing to believe that, even if it's just to paint people from Astora as incredibly important to the narrative.
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>>182521407
You have to personally land the killing blow. Gravity deaths don't count even if you were the one who knocked them off. I've killed many a blueberry and Sunbro in ladder fights as a grapist, but they've never counted. And as said, the number can vary between 1 and 3 depending on the number of already-present phantoms in the world upon invasion.

The most reliable way is still to gun for the host. You're basically playing like a red at that point, but other invaders will be willing to help you to that end.
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>>182523852
DS1 and DS3 both only have 1 swamp though
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>>182523895
A lot of DS3's lore is fucking stupid, self-contradictory, and full of "this is a neat thing we need the player to do, let's come up with some dumb reason for it" but killing Anri is one of the few things that does actually make sense and is consistent with the rest of the games, serving as a logical conclusion about what hollowing really is and why it's not so bad.

It could have been done better though. They should have made it more clear that Dark Sigils are "artificial" darksigns, allowing greater levels of hollowing than normal. But it's always been a staple of the series that hollows were weakened, but also useful as vessels.

DS1's plot involved hollows being freed one by one from the asylum and tricked into carrying the lord souls to to the kiln to reignite the first flame.

DS2's plot involved using hollows to gather a huge amount of souls (including souls of the giants) to unlock the path to the throne of drangleic, before nashandra can get to it, and then use that to restore the kingdom.
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>>182523776
I was expecting a nice web level with neat enemies.
All I saw were 2 weirdos and a fog wall.
Gives me Profaned Capital flashbacks.

I don't think I'm ready just yet for Spidertits.
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>>182524229
There must be some different formula for invading purples because I helped someone get their shackles by summoning their red purple sign and jumping off a ledge when they spawned in getting them the trophy.
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>>182524316
>DS3
>1 swamp

Road of Sacrifices
Farron Keep
Ithryll Dungeon
Consumed king's garden
Ringed City
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>>182522959
Early concept art showed her with a rapier and without the shield. And everyone still thought she was a guy at that point because of the mask and because no voice work yet.

>>182523776
>I can't see anything past 5 feet
Son, you have no fucking idea what kind of pain you're in for.
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>>182524393
So what you're saying is all Hollows are cannon fodder, the thing to throw at the problem until the problem is solved.
That's actually backed by the description of the Slave Knight Set, with Undead being used as essentially suicide warriors, coming back whenever they were killed.
>>182524424
>I don't think I'm ready just yet for Spidertits.
Not with that attitude
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>>182524503
>Ithryll Dungeon
wat?
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>>182524503
>>182524316
also Ariandel had a "swamp" area too, though the ground wasn't poison, with all the bugs and shit.
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>>182524496
You, the Host of Embers, died. That's the other victory condition.
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Huh, I forgot you can put on more than 2 rings and I've rolling around with life and regeneration in my back instead of putting them on.

Damn roguelike muscle memory
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>>182524582
The Toxic swamp in Propane Capital with the Meowmers and Hand Hippos.
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https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/541720
pls no bully
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>that dual persuer mini boss fight in the drangleic throne room

I'm convinced who ever designed this game was high as fuck
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>>182524565
>So what you're saying is all Hollows are cannon fodder, the thing to throw at the problem until the problem is solved.

Yes. Humans are weak but resilient. The Dark Soul (humanity) only grows in power as it is split, unlike other white/flame souls, and that's why the gods feared them and branded them with the darksign.

Hollowing in souls is the counter-state to being wealthy. It's the "nothing to lose" mentality that allows the players to achieve things that the gods can not.

it's also a shameless rip off of armored core's plot, but that's neither here nor there.. From has a few concepts that they use in every single game, that's one of them. The player characters are treated like dog shit and manipulated, but through that manipulation they get strong enough to rebel and find their own way.
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>>182524927
It's a reference. Pursuer is a color-swapped character from armored core.

https://youtu.be/ib1tQ6X1ccI?t=2m33s
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>>182524503
>>182524591
There's also swampy bits of the Cathedral of the Deep.
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>>182525082
>forget that 4chan doesn't auto-play videos at the correct timecode of the url

the fight starts around 2:33
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>>182525163
Yes it does.
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>>182521185
I feel like the roar would actually be good if the selfstun wasn't so damn long, and if the AR buff was 20 sec instead of 10.
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>>182525336
when I hit the embed link, "embed" it starts at the beginning of video though
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>>182524803
bad fashion
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>>182524975
Long-ass post incoming, beware
The only thing I can think of now is RE 7 when Jack occasionally says "You kill me, and I just come right back!" That was probably the early mentality for Undead.
Whoever was fighting against the Slave Knights would have been better off just giving up, because these guys couldn't die, no matter what, and they had absolutely nothing to lose.
Humans really are a powerful force, but I think one issue is that they're easily manipulated. In 1, either you played by the gods' rules with Frampt and fulfilled their end, or played by Kaathe's rules and fulfilled his end. Either way, you're there because you're taking directives from some "higher power" that sees you as nothing more than a tool to be used.
2 was a little different in that Aldia was once human, and understood your mindset. He was trying to break the cycles and the Undead Curse before he turned into a flaming tree, but you still took the shots he called. I'd say the same for the other ending, where the only real directive is to beat Nashandra to the Throne.
3 was probably the best option for paddling your own metaphorical canoe. Linking the Fire was again playing by the rules of nearly everyone telling you "Link the Fire, man, you gotta do it to be cool, everyone's doing it," and it wheezes out like a cheap firecracker. Usurpation, we've already discussed this, that Yuria was looking for a powerful figurehead, a puppet she could control while taking directives from Kaathe, who already did his fair share of manipulating humans from 1. End of Fire, you make the whole decision. You summon the Fire Keeper, you tell her to give up on this dream, you hand over the Eyes.
In terms of having the liberty of choosing your own path without taking orders from someone else, I'd say 3 gave complete control with End of Fire, 2 gave some with Aldia, and 1 gave the least, serving a Primordial Serpent regardless of your choice.
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>>182525750
>serving a Primordial Serpent regardless of your choice.
The Serpents serve you.
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>>182525818
oh you poor misinformed fool
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>>182525837
>not "you sorry fool"
one job
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>>182525818
So you think that Kaathe, the guy who told you you're apparently special for no reason at all when it's likely that all Undead are just like you in that special sense, who has a hard-on for an Age of Dark, who is apparently pissed about this not working before, as seen in his dialogue "They failed me, every last one of them. They were strong, but saw not the truth... I am certain that you will prove different," who got you to the point of the Age of Dark, is just going to let it slide that he built you up? That he's not going to be right on you to ensure you do what's best for his own interests by disguising them as your own? That he didn't find a really successful tool and milked it for all it was worth? Oscar's cut content show that he can end up working for Kaathe if you take Frampt's lead, so how would Oscar be different in this sense than you if you're playing in Kaathe's park?
Age of Dark, man, not even once.
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>>182525750
>but you still took the shots he called.
It's a little more complex than that. Aldia never told you what to do, because his goal wasn't for you to -do- anything. His goal was for you to just become so goddamn strong that Nashandra couldn't manipulate you. It didn't matter if nashandra reached the throne or not, she would try to kill you at some point and he wanted to make sure you'd win. It was a win-win scenario for aldia, and that's why he tries to kill you once your purpose is served.

3's endings were just DeS two endings (become one of, or seal away the old ones) plus DS1's endings (link the fire or abandon it). What really opens thing up is that the fire keeper in DS1 doesn't serve the gods, and yet you still get Yuria there if you want to go against the god's wishes, so you have a neutral path where the previous games did not.
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What weapons are good on a DEX/INT build besides Friede's Scythe, Aquamarine Dagger and Crescent Moon Sword?
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Is a Sorcerer play-through worth doing in DS3?
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>>182526387
I imagine CMW'd Sharp weapons wouldn't be awful.
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>>182525818
Both serpents give you a load of bullshit with "IT'S YOUR DESTINY!"

Frampt says it's because you're the strongest human he's ever seen (lie).
Kaathe says it's because that's the "true nature" of humanity (lie).

It's industrialism vs naturalism and both are dumb ideologies intended to trick you into thinking you have to do something.
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>>182526458
Yes, but it's not as fun as heavy, sharp, quality, or faith.

Probably more fun than pyro though.

>>182526387
Crystal sage rapier.
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>>182526227
That got me thinking, if Aldia successfully killed the BotC, would that have been like the End of Fire? Since there's no one around to do anything with it, would it just go into a hard reset and hopefully fix mistakes?
And which ending in 3 do you consider the neutral path, End or Usurpation? End seems like the moreso of the two, allowing for a period of rest and recovery before trying again. Usurpation just feels like the Age of Dark from 1, allowing the Dark to settle in and the Hollows to run freely.
And I'd rather fuck the Fire Keeper like a rabbit on ecstasy than deal with the beef jerky harem. The Untrue Dark Ring only goes so far.
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Is there a way to speed through shrine of amana? No way am I shooting 150 arrows just to get past the place again.
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>>182526554
>Faith playthrough
>fun
Enjoy playing purely with a straight sword until you get to TRC.
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>>182526662
roll a lot
summon someone
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Whata the most fun class to start as in ds3? Ive played mostly sword+shield since des, a little bit with spears and greatswords. I wanna do something different though.
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What if they just remade Dark Souls 1 from the bottom up?
Like an all new engine or whatever the difference between 1 and 3 was.
Pretty pretty gramphics. Some more weapons. You're not a gross pink man.

I'd be down for it.
Hell, I'd pay $80.
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>>182526662
Try luring it out, then tongue but hole.
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>>182526662
Shield tank the spells, cast Strong Magic Shield so you get 100% damage reduction. Fight the enemies slowly one at a time. Amana is just "understanding aggro range, the game"

>>182527009
they did, it's called DS3
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>>182527009
>Hell, I'd pay $80.
You already did.
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Fuckkk my dickkk
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>>182527009
Id rather them do the same with DeS, remake the map interconnected instead of teleport stones, rearrange shit like sotfs and add some new bosses
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Is the Frayed Blade at least adequate at 40 DEX?
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>>182526387
Crystal infused Scimitar, it outdamages the Crescent Moon Sword heavily on 40/40 DEX/INT.
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>>182527267
it's a quality katana
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>>182527202
I was expecting some dialogue at least.

A lot of these bosses are pretty basic in DS1.
I think she did like 3 attacks the whole time.
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>>182527313
She has some cut dialogue that implies that she was originally designed as an optional boss. Not that it really means anything though, DaS1's design cycle was a pretty big shitshow with all sorts of never-realized concepts (though nowhere near as bad as DaS2).
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>>182527303
Can any other katanas be considered quality, or are they mostly Dex?
>>182527313
I think she has dialogue that was cut from the game, even referenced the Chaos Servants
http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Quelaag
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>>182527421
>(though nowhere near as bad as DaS2).
what did he mean by this?
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>>182526843
>he doesn't know about lothric knight greatsword or the early game blessed gem
>Wolnir's holy sword
>saint bident

faith has huge diversity in DS3 pve because the first part of the game you focus entirely on buffs and regen, not damage casting. Blessed LKGS, saint's bident, lothric knight sword, etc. are all ridiculously OP for when you have access to them, especially paire with lloyd's sword and shield rings.

>>182527225
>remake the map interconnected instead of teleport stones,
congrats, you just ruined DeS and missed the entire point of the game's overworld
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>Enter Painted World DLC in DS3 for the first time.
>No shield, slow ass ultra weapon.
>These fucking wolves.
>These fucking chip damage trees.

AWOOOOO YERSELF.
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>fist weapons have the highest DPS in 2 because of bullshit stamina consumption on everything else

They should have done one last quality of life update to make this game play better
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>>182527425
Darkdrift and black blade are the only katanas that gain more from strength once dex hits 40.

Basically anything that can't be infused and has scaling within 2 letters of each other is best as quality. Frayed blade is still dex, I don't know what the other anon is talking about. You get the same AR on frayed blade as 20/60 as you do 40/40, and 11/79 is highest. The differences are small though.
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>>182527656
press start

there's this neat menu that lets you change equipment

>>182527750
Rapiers have the most DPS, fist weapons also have the most dogshit range and suffer the most from having low AR penalties if you aren't dedicating 2 ring slots to them.
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>>182527849
What about the Chaos Blade, then? It can't be infused, but I'm getting slightly more AR on a Dex than Quality.
I'm also considering using the Chaos Blade for FC, invasions, whatever. Would the damage penalty be negligible in this sense? I'd imagine it a much larger problem in PvE.
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If greirat died right away where can I get his ashes?
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>>182528127
If he died in Irithyll, in the sewer right before Siegward's kitchen. There's a cluster of three or so of those centipedes in a corner, his ashes are there.
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>>182528214
Nah nah before that
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>>182528328
Before that? I wasn't aware he could die then, unless you killed him yourself.
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>>182528038
>and has scaling within 2 letters of each other
read
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You fuckers want a retarded theory totally disregarding Dark Souls 3? What if the Everlasting Dragons are perfectly balanced entities and the creation of both the First Flame and Seath are connected?
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>>182528038
damage penalty is a bigger deal in pvp because being able to kill someone in a single combo is so much more effective. If they have a sliver of health left, you can't get an extra hit on them, they will roll away and estus.
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>>182527750
Nah, rapiers/red iron twinblade are the kings of DPS with the drakeblood greatsword coming in as a close second since you can use rob+flynn and 2 clutch rings with it
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how do i get past jailers in irythll dungeon?
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>>182529242
Fire.
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>>182528491
I don't see how this disregards 3.
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Does anyone have that DaS2 webm where someone made a really good guts cosplay using a CE'd moveset?
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>>182529242
sprint button

R1

repeat
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>>182528491
>creation of both the First Flame and Seath are connected?
Well obviously yes, Seath didn't have immortality from stone scales so unless the two events were connected he would have just died from age before anything happened.
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what the fuck is with people eating mossfruit all of a sudden?
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>>182529242
You kill them, silly.
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Holy shit this place is fucking great.

>see a snake man on the other side of a doorway
>giat fucking ball runs it over
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>>182529898
They saw some le so random youtuber do it so they want to imitate him.
Just children being children.
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What if they kidnapped the guys from Mario who do jumping and moving and made getting to platforms and secret paths not look stupid with rolling and falling?
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>>182529973
sen's funhouse
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>>182498902
>GRRRRRR
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He didn't deserve this.
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>>182498902
>YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182510825
>edgy woman gets her teeth kicked in
Nothing more satisfying
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>>182525418
Works on my machine :^
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How was stone ring ever green lit? This ring completely trivializes PvE
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>>182514756
>he takes invading seriously
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>>182531059
Only if you're using daggers/rapiers. Otherwise it's completely useless.

DS2 is about throwing tons of bullshit enemies at you, but giving you 1000 ways to break the game. It's the easiest souls game because of that, every build has some extremely OP tactic you can use and you can swap between them for each enemy type.
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>suck at pvp
>get invaded
>take the guy to a silver of health TWICE but cant finish because i suck
>3rd time he figures me out parries my shit, pops my tears of denial and finsihes me off with those fucking illusionary knives

At least i didnt get downpointed
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>>182531152
>DS2 is about throwing tons of bullshit enemies at you
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>>182515028
Bloodborne is not worth $500.

Bloodborne plus a good console with a few other exclusives and Vr support is worth $300, unless you've already spent that time and money building a PC.
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>>182531059
Honestly it's only situationally useful even on things like a rapier build, the only example I can think off of the top of my head are NG+ Alonne Knights in Memory of old Iron King/certain enemies when in coop, if you solo an R2 from a 10 poise damage weapon can still 1 hit stagger 99% of the shit that can be staggered.
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Was just listening to some instrumental low fi hip hop while doing pvp. The sound effects from the game blend so perfectly with it and it goes well with the game.
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>>182531264
I love DS2, but it's true. The game achieves a feeling of accomplishment by giving you enemies and situations that you are required to build your character up to fight against, forcing you to actually learn what all the stats do so you can change equipment. Customization was kind of optional in DS1 and especially DS3 because they only threw 2-3 enemies at a time at you and their defenses/strategies didn't vary much.
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Is the Sun Sword in DS2 good?
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>>182510825
Hod is a mean motherfucker
>ng+, lvl 200
>summon him
>fucker parries me from full health, and only tears of denial saves my ass
>i do like 1/10 of his health with anything i try
>he keeps chasing me

I felt like a girl running, screaming from a rapists throwing her entire purses content at him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI
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>>182529973
Welcome to the house of fun. Seriously, the best place to invade once you get to know it. If there was a silvercat ring in 1, I'd still be invading there
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>>182531465
It's literally cancer
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>>182531465
One of the best weapons in the game, PvP wise anyway, its good enough at PvE but that's not saying much, almost everything is viable in PvE.
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>40/40 DEX INT builds
>not going for 45/45 for that sweet Murky Longstaff sweet spot and the extra ring slot
What's even the point?
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>>182531465
> B/B quality scaling at base

gee I wonder
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>>182531465
It's one of 4 swords with the best straight sword moveset, aka, 1HR2 pokes.
>shortsword
>sun sword
>fume sword
>ashen warrior sword

Shortsword's damage and range sucks. Fume sword is for hexers and pure dex, ashen warrior sword is for bleed, and that leaves sun sword as the best choice for pure physical or power stance, especially with its ridiculously high scaling.

Sun Sword + Mirrah GS is an amazing power stance combo
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>>182531670
You need 50 for the cap and 50 isn't an important softcap for damage. 40/40 is for those few magical weapons and maybe spell support
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I haven't played Ds3 in a long while. Can someone please tell me if Faith is still shit?
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>>182531882
You need 50 for what cap? pretty sure Murky Longstaff caps at 45.
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>>182531936
>darkmoon blade
>lightning stake
>lightning arrow
>tons of faith based weapons that kick ass
>healing spells
it's bretty good, you just need 2 rings to do damage with the spells
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>>182531974
Dex for cast speed. I assume that's what you meant by "extra ring slot". And I think you need 40/40 int/fai for mls
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>>182532084
45 is the casting speed cap, m8. Just like in DS1.
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>>182531816
>>182531605
>>182531620
>>182531826
I just want to use it for PvE/Co-Op as a sunbro
also, what's some good armor fashion I can use? I wanna look decent
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>>182531936
Nope. The DLC gave it the two best spells in the game and blessed infusion got a buff I think. The fact that you have viable faith-scaling physical, magic, and lightning damage is also a huge bonus.


Faith is good enough that people will farm 30 ears from silver knights just to get darkmoon blade (which does the same damage as , because players have more lightning defense than magic
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>>182531670
Murky Longstaff is a 60 Int Hex-casting staff, and I'm pretty sure it still gets beat by a 40/40 Int/Fai Izalith Staff.

You don't level Dex for the casting speed, and the difference between 40 and 50 Dex is minuscule for that purpose anyways (you're an even bigger retard for stopping anywhere that isn't 80 Dex if you ever go over 40).
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>>182532253
Black dragon helm
Turtle armor
Havel gauntlets
Havel leggings
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i cant do it guys
fuck me
this is hell
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>>182532253
For PvE it's still the best straightsword, because other straightswords lack the 1H thrust. Thrust damage is really good against some enemies, particularly fat squishy ones like ogres.

>Good fashion
Wanderer set with the elite knight helm
Pate's set if you're willing to kill him
Royal Soldier set is also pretty good looking, especially with alva helm


Basically anything Maughlin the Armourer sells, or any NPC set after you kill them (sold by Melentia the hag) is good fashion.
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>>182532404
>this is hell
CARLOS
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>>182532253
Works in PvE, it deals consistent damage with a decent moveset, buff with any given elemental buff + Sacred Oath and your in business, it's also a weapon that doesn't suffer too badly from being used alongside a shield so you can fashion it up even more.
Throne defender/Watcher have both really good chest armors, combine them with darker/lighter armor respectively, Alva/Elite Knight early game are also good.
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>>182532341
>Murky Longstaff is a 60 Int Hex-casting staff
Where did you get this from? Everything I'm seeing says it caps at 45. It does less damage than Izalith staff, but requires absolutely zero faith investment.
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>>182532041
>>tons of faith based weapons that kick ass
Which weapons are these? Last time I played I only remember the only good Faith weapon being the Dragonslayer Greataxe but that was more of a strength weapon
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>>182532346
>>182532415
I'll try these, thanks.
Is there any site or something that shows me fashion combinations? I don't want to get stuff and end up not liking it, because I'm the laziest nigger around.
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>>182531936
The grind is still shit, but as a whole it's tolerable now because you get a broken OP Miracle in the DLC.
>still no Braille Divine Tome of Lothric in the early game
>still unable to reliably use Lightning Stake until long after you get it because of the dumb 35 Fai requirement
>still no decent Miracles outside of Dorhys' Gnawing until after Propane Capital
>still have to beat the fucking game to get the best Lightning Spear

>>182532139
Post proof that isn't that YT video that doesn't give hard numbers.
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>>182532404
Demon Princes is a "how well do you know this game?" boss. He has a ton of easily exploited weaknesses that are very obvious if you've played the game and trivializes him, but if you don't pay attention he seems impossible.

both princes can be staggered and riposte'd after ~5 hits with a greatsword

weak to black knight weapons (20% more damage) and bleeding (like all demons)

cast flash sweat and wear flame stoneplate, that cuts his damage by about 50% since he does fire damage with all attacks

the first phase is weak to dark damage
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>>182532593
That YT video is made by a guy who seems to know what he's doing. It's better proof than anyone claiming it's 50 has. Do you have proof that it's 50?
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>>182532540
Ornstein's spear
Nameless king's swordspear
Wolnir's the only trash thing about that sword is the weapon art
Crucifix of the normies get out
As you said dragon axe
Basically every buffable weapon is great with faith thanks to the buffs
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>>182532543
For 2 there was one but can't find it, also worth keeping in mind that if you coop as a phantom then people will only see you as a phantom (without the ring anyway) so you don't have to worry about conflicting colors.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799699179
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>>182532637
i give it another try, btw the music is awesome and ringed city seems great too, is there a lot of content after demon prince or is it rather short?
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>>182532497
It gets a 20% increase in Spell Buff between 45 and 60. Any Sorcery-focused staff will cap out at 60 Int, whatever source you found your info at is retarded.
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>>182532637
And killing Pain makes the everything infinitely easier.
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>>182532697
I always loved Wolnir's Greatsword. I'm glad to hear it's not a meme weapon anymore. Thanks m8
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>>182532767
You know that number is taking into account the faith scaling too, right? That's what its spellbuff is at 60/60.
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>>182532540
Really good:
>Lothric Knight Greatsword
>Saint Bident
>Lothric Knight Sword (gains higher faith scaling when infused than other weapons)
>DSGS
>Dragonslayer's Swordspear
>Dragonslayer Spear

Situationally good:
>Lothric War Banner (also gains higher scaling than other weapons when faith infused)
>Sunlight Straight Sword (stacking buff)
>Lothric's Holy Sword
>Wolnier's Holy Sword

Bad faith weapons:
>Yorshka's Spear
>Eleonora
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>>182532946
Yes, I'm sure that 60 Faith is providing oh so much Spell Buff with that E scaling.
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>make a buff character in DaS3
>makes all my armor look fat
>take off the armor to get a closer look at him
>the neck and shoulders are so fucking blocky
>walking looks retarded with your hands nearly clipping into your sides
DaS and DaS2 wasn't this bad. Especially DaS2. In DaS3 they just took the default body build and modeled everything to that.
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>>182532989
>lothric knight greatsword
>it has no faith scaling
Nani
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>>182533159
Strap a Blessed Gem on it, and watch the physical and Lightning damage both scale with one stat.
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>>182533025
At 60 INT theres no reason not to use the Court Sorcerers Staff over the Murky Longstaff. It's supposed to be used at 45 INT and base FAI.
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So this is probably going to be a really, really dumb question, I realise this. But here I am watching a video of some guy parry the ever living crap out anybody, and I can't help but question how can anyone even play PvP with anything less than a UGS. Because as someone who hasn't really used anything else than a UGS 2h, I don't really know what being parried even feels like. How does one even consider the idea to use a weapon that may leave you at a disadvantage on pretty much every single hit you make?
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>>182533249
>blessed gem
People use this?
Why not just buff it with lightning blade
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>>182533260
You do realize that the Murky Longstaff was designed with Hexes in mind, right? It and CSS serve very different purposes.
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>>182533336
you can do both
>>
Ring City more like Pay-to-Win City
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>>182533472
Didin't infusions like blessed gem and others prevent you from using buffs on the weapon?§
I never actually used them so i don't know
>>182533525
What
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>>182533525
But the best weapon is still the Longsword.
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>>182533305
You mean beyond the guy in the video editing out every single one of his failures? Because parries depend on (1) the other guy actually being good at parrying, (2) the guy with the parry-able weapon not purposely delaying his R1 by a fraction of a second to fuck the parry guy over, and (3) network latency allowing consistent use of the parry.

Also, seeing the other guy equipped with a parry tool is a dead fucking giveaway.

>>182533336
Lightning Blade buffed LKGS is a viable option. But Blessed has its uses.
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>>182533159
It's one of the few ridiculously OP weapons that has both native elemental damage AND can be buffed, like crucifix of the mad king. And unlike crucifix, blessed infusion's faith bonus scales with both physical and lightning damage.

27/16/60 Heavy LKGS with lightning blade has 864 AR
27/40/40 Sharp LKGS with lightning blade has 847 AR and lets you use offhand dex weapons
27/16/60 blessed LKGS has 720 AR with passive healing.
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>>182533576
pay 15$ for exclusive +3 rings in NG+0
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>>182533669
>is angry that they give you good shit in a dlc you paid for
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>>182533669
The +3 rings are actually a very smart idea, because then it doesn't force people to grind through NG+2 to "complete" their builds.

What kind of casual are you anyways if you didn't purchase the complete Dark Souls experience? A Souls game is never considered complete unless you include the DLC.
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>>182533336
For LKGS, comparing Blessed infusion unbuffed and Sharp+Lightning blade:

Lightning blade does ~10% more damage but has to be re-applied and uses a spell slot, and does a lot less (>20% less) damage when the buff runs out.

Blessed does less, but gives you passive regen (4 hp/s) and doesn't use a spell slot or require re-application.
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>>182533794
Casters still need to, though.
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>>182533794
>>182533669
they were an apology for failing to include bonfire ascetics.
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Respeced for 45 dex +some fai and att and recorded myself shoot lightning arrow with a talisman and then with the bellvine out (increases cast speed). The player automatically sheathes the other weapon when casting it so it's easy to tell start and finish. Then run the video through the webm converter to check frame by frame
without bellvine, the cast starts at 84 and ends at 138, 54 frames.
with bellvine, it starts at 161 and ends at 214, 53 frames.
That 1 frame difference is probably an issue of shadowplay recording at 30fps while the game runs at 60, but even if it wasn't it's not worth going 50 dex
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>>182533851
I mean, the downsides of lightning blade are really fickle compared to the "bonuses" of Blessed
Lightning blade lasts quite a lot so you almost never reapply it in a fight and 4 hp regen is pretty shitty
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>>182498902
are you playing a female wearing desert set? that would explain it...
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>>182533579
Gael's is still the best weapon.
>HA attacks
>1000 damage 3 hit guaranteed combo

>>182534016
blessed is used mostly to stack HP regen with other miracles so that you're healing 20-30 HP/s, which is fast enough in rollsouls 3 to win almost any war of attrition by just requiring fewer estus uses.

Lightning is used to increase your peak damage so that you can kill in a single combo or win trades.

Think about the overall build, not just the individual weapon. Builds are more than the sum of their equipment
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>>182527313
Bosses in DS1 / DeS / DS2 can have bad rmg where they get stuck doing the same move for the entire fight. In BB / DaS3 the phase changes at least make it look like they're mixing it up a bit.

>>182527225
>>182527009

Instead of remakes they should just flat out make a new game which they probably are doing.

A port of DeS for the ps4 would be something I'd like though.
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>>182533972
Lightning Arrow is one of the fastest casting spells in the game. Test it on something slower like Great Heal or Chaos Storm.
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>>182533472
Not at the same time
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>>182527313
The focus of the games was always the level design and customization.

Bosses only became a selling point for DS3/BB, and maybe Artorias of the Abyss
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What is, objectively, the absolute best boss in the dark souls series?
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>>182534435
Either cuckeater or Gael
Don't let anybody tell you otherwise
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>>182534435
Four Kings
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>>182534435
That three man gank in Shulva DLC.
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>>182534435
DaS1: Either Manus or Kalameet
DaS2: Sir Alonne, with Raime and Ivory King tying for second
DaS3: Nameless Kang, Champ and Gael tying for first, with Midir and SoC following up
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>>182534435
easy
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>>182534435
artorias
;_;7
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>>182534435
Champion Gundyr
>inb4 but it can be parried
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god damn fucking wizard build in DS2
I have fuck all VIG and most shit kills me instantly, and I'm too shit not to get hit
can't wait to be done with this shit collection shit so I can use a soul vessel and change my build
what should I build for?
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>>182534585
Killing a helpless waifu has never been more satisfying
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>>182534287
It's not particularly fast, it's great value is that you can hold it. Is Gheal even affected by cast speed? I'll try that and lifehunt scythe
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>>182534546
good memories...
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>>182534702
>and I'm too shit not to get hit
wizzard build is not for you then

if you have trouble dodging, then find the biggest fucking shield you can and build for that. or just git gud
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>>182534748
Yes, Great Heal is affected by casting speed. I've tested it with and without Sage's, it's immediately noticeable when using a chime since the bell tones are much closer together at high cast speed.
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>>182534702
Use binoculars, become the headshot lord
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>>182534435
Fatboy and Slim.
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>>182534702
i always tend to end up in a str/fth build
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>>182534435
soul of cinder/abyss watchers for me.
the champ is up there too.
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>>182534846
45+sage
18 start
144 return to idle
126 frames

45
308 start
438 return to idle
130 frames

But it was a bit inconsistent, I'll try once more to cast while moving (so I can have the start and end as "stop moving" and "start moving"
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>>182534546
>literally ran around in circles for 15 minutes casting dark orb when there was an opening

Who the FUCK designed that """""boss"""", there wasn't even a soul
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>>182535576
Probably a pissed off invader. Gives hosts a taste at what invaders go through.

>tfw used to get summoned for the boss and wouldn't enter the fog
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>>182532767
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Dp7ewkzIsQv8p-zaE33fxyeTc0DJoXaOFmBdCVbbkDM/edit#gid=0

According to this the difference between 45 and 60 INT is approximately 20 damage on a GSD. Not worth it.
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>>182534702
Can't go wrong with a Johnny One-Two Punch build
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I "beat" Pinwheel.

I got the stupid mask of the mother.
I wanted the mask of the son.
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Bearer of the breasts, seek seek lest
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>>182535560
24
136
112 frames from start to finish

214
324
110 frames from start to finish with bellvine
Since across different tests 50 seems to be better than 45, I'm pretty sure than 50 is the cap or at least between 45 and 50. But the last levels aren't the most important like it was in 1,
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>>182536010
She's not particularly busty, it's just the ribbon fooling you
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>>182534435
Fume Knight is easily the best boss in the series for me and I have a hard time thinking of a close second.
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>>182535560
>>182536086
Thanks for this info. I've been tearing my hair out trying to figure out casting speed. Looks like those last few points matter more depending on the speed of the spell you're using. I'll go with 48 DEX for now.
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Is this symbol anywhere else?
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in DS1 can you still be invaded after you beat the area boss?
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>>182536338
No, unless there's another boss in the area (only true in 1 spot iirc)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udFTBKwYamg
Anyone tried this yet?
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>>182534435
(1/2)

Objectively? Doesn't exist. But here's my personal criteria
>Does it teach the player something important about the gameplay?
>Does it teach that thing better than any other boss in the franchise?
>Lastly, How important is the thing it teaches you?

Any boss that doesn't meet the first two is either lore filler, an inferior version of another boss, or style over substance. The last criteria ranks their importance, to me. So here's my list, with inferior versions in parenthesis:

Amazing:
1. Pontiff Sulyvahn (Blackflame Freide, O&S Phase 2)
>The stronger the opponent gets, the more specialized they are and the more they reveal about their next move, making you stronger as well if you pay attention

2. Asylum Demon (Dragon God)
>Teaches the player that not everything can be beaten and you should search for other places to go instead of fighting everything head on

3. Soul of Cinder (Looking Glass Knight, SoTC, Old Monk, Maiden Astraea)
>Fight someone using the same mechanics of the game that you do, using what you already know about your own strategies to plan against theirs.

4. Ornstein and Smough (Maneaters, Darklurker, Freide Stage 2, Fool's Idol stage 2, Watcher/Defender, Lothric Young Prince, Lud/Zallen, Abyss Watchers, Crystal Sage, Gravtender)
>Teaches players to deal with 2v1 (or more) fights, and to use the environment and space properly against area denial

5. Phalanx (Skeleton Lords, Rat Vanguard, Deacons, Prowling Magus)
>Use the logic of normal mobs (shield, spears, etc.) to chip away at a larger boss until they are manageable
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>>182536170
>delayed attacks
>270* swings
>high resistances

Sure
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>>182536708
(2/2)

Good:
6. Dancer (Gael, Dragonslayer Armor)
>Use audio and rhythm cues to predict new attacks and new phases by catching into the patterns of previous phases

7. Flamelurker (Smelter Demon, Fume Knight, Most DS2 bosses)
>use context to figure out an enemy's elemental/type weaknesses

8. Sir Alonne (Pursuer)
>Learn to be very patient and look for a time to heal against an enemy that punishes rapidly and with little warning

9. Capra Demon (Iron Golem)
>Use the environment to lead bosses and abuse their AI

10. Midir (Ancient Dragon, Gaping Dragon, Ceaseless Discharge)
>Learn to fight extremely large, slow enemies that can kill in one hit, an endurance challenge.

11. Priscilla (Freide stage 1 or 3)
>use context to figure out an enemy's position, not relying on sight alone.


Not very creative:
12. Fume Knight (Oceiros, Nameless King)
>Learn to reset yourself after a first phase and re-learn the boss immediately as he changes tactics, adapting as fast as they do.

13. Artorias (Gael, Manus, Penetrator, False King, most other DS1/DS3 bosses)
>Use memorization of movesets to roll and counter attack everything no matter how many attacks they throw out at you.

14. Gwyndolin (Aldrich, Moonlight Butterfly)
>Learn to dodge projectiles, Keep moving and wait for the proper time to attack for heavy damage

15. Tower Knight (Wolnir, Greatwood)
>Search for weak points

16. Seath (Storm King Yhorm, Ancient Wyvern, Dragonrider)
>Use the environment to fight a seemingly impossible foe by discovering a special tactic

17. Champion Gundyr
>Use knowledge of a previous boss to accelerate your mastery of a new boss

18. Four Kings
>Damage race the enemies before they surround you

19. Lost Sinner (Old Hero)
>Use light, sound, etc. to gain an advantage over a foe that relies on them

20. Sif (Guardian Dragon Rat Authority)
>Underneath and attacking the legs is the safest place to fight a larger enemy
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>>182536520
>give up a spell and weapon slot to telegraph and extremely obvious and vulnerable cast
>just so that you can rollcatch the small percentage of people who will roll to the left

most people roll forward through attacks, not to the left, so this tactic is trash except against a small fraction of players.
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>>182536520
>dark shit pants 3
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>>182536424
>(only true in 1 spot iirc)
There are a few, depending on how you want to define it. There are a few places that are technically one zone but are split into two invasion areas each tied to a different boss, like the upper and lower Undead Burg or the early and late parts of Darkroot Garden. There's Demon Ruins which has two bosses, but I've never invaded nor have I ever been invaded by anyone there besides Kirk, so I'm not 100% sure how that works. And there's also the Royal Wood in the DLC, which will re-open for invasions while Kalameet is grounded but not dead.
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>Haven't quite finished my build, but get impatient and invade anyway.
>First time playing DS3 since before the first DLC.
>Slay the two buttbuddies.
>Host then proceeds to sprint+roll+estus around for the next fucking millennia, despite a second invader + aldrich faithful turning up during it.
>Eventually he just kills himself.

God fucking damn, I forgot how silly rolling was in 3.
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DeS and DaS2 are the only ones that did casters right. Also I miss wands staves are for fags.
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>>182537364
One shotting your opponent with no effort != doing it right.

I miss the Talisman of beasts though.
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>>182515028
I bought my PS4 for 270$ and 60$ BB on top of that so 330 in total.

>>182513831
>Dark Souls 2
>spiders drop Ricard's Rapiers and Zweihanders
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>>182537364
Casting really is fucked in 3, but you can make it work if you try. Here's an example of what not to do. Look at how fucking retarded this build is.
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>>182525418
Oh, do you have 4chanx? That might be it.
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>>182513831
tl;dr:
all the cool shit from armored core, but removed the shop and forced you to farm items instead
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>Bloodborne uses subtle colored light for phantoms
>DaS3 goes back to the gaudy ass bright colors
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>>182538074
In DaS 3 you can use the Untrue Dark Ring to make phantom colors completely disappear. A legit good thing imo.
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>>182538118
>want to use Untrue Dark Ring on my hollow slave to get rid of my red color
>makes me look human though
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>182537463
just like everything else in DS2, makes no fucking sense lore-wise but makes sense from a game design perspective

>swarm of enemies that you can just avoid constantly by using a torch
>but if you actually do attack them all, they drop the rare items of enemies that died to them

But in reality it was probably an unintentional bug since the official strategy guide doesn't list the weapons as drops, implying that From didn't intend for it but kept it around anyway.
>>
>>182538246
DS2 has the worst lore in the entire franchise
Fite me
>>
>>182538209
>want to be a hollow elite darkwraith edgelord with human juice spattered on my oversized dark sword
>weapon gets a shitty grape lathering
>only way to remove it make me look human
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>>182538367
I still don't understand why people give such a shit about these games "lore". It's dumb as hell.
>>
>>182538367
Even if that were true, the characters make up for it.
>>
>>182538472
>literally has the worst characters in the franchise as well
Oh nigga i'm laffin
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>>182538536
DaS3 has the worst by default as they are just rehashes.
>>
>>182538074
i like the nice visual stimuli
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>>182538536
>oh hey its everyone from DS1 again for whatever reason haha
fuck off 3tard
>>
Anyone fancy doing Darkeater Memedir with a bored underlevelled anon?

Pass=dsg
Neet at Ringed Inner bonfire
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>>182538586
>>182538625
>implying ds2 characters aren't just rehashes
>implying ds3 rehasehs aren't better than ds2 ones
L A F F I N
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>that little blue icon by every phantom name in low level invasions
Password was a mistake. And it's always full havels with dragonslayer greataxe.
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Did Ornstein "no homo" after turning himself into the Storm King?

What a fucking stupid theory.
>>
>>182538661
Sorry, my gameboy color still needs charging
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>>182538661
Gimme a sec, booting up my virtualboy
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>>182538367
DS2's lore is more interesting plot-wise but much more poorly explained and has little effect on the actual gameplay or design.

DS1 is the only one with vaguely interesting "lore" and that's only because of how much the original setting affected the little details. The plot itself though is dogshit boring and just the same rehash of previous games.

I'd definitely say DS2 has the worst execution of the lore though. It was tacked-on and pointless, compared to DS1 where it could be an actual drawing point of the game or DS3 where it provides the character with lots of motivation.
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>>182538931
Cloaca too strong
>Nameless King betrayed his family, even let his cute little brother get eaten by a slime, for cloaca
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>>182539020
Thanks mang. Are you sure it's compatible with PowerGlove users?
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>>182538661
Sorry, I'm out of AAs for my Game Gear.
>>
>>182538713
you have 5 years to name the DS1 characters that Aldia, Maughlin, Gilligan, Lucatiel, Benhart, Targray, Bell Keepers, Creighton, Lenigrast, Felkin, Grandahl, Milibeth, Straid, Vengarl, Wellager, the blood brotherhood midget (forgot his name), Gavlan and Agdayne are rehashes of
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>tfw nearly pissed my pants when that retarded flaming tree popped out of the bonfire
What the fuck is wrong with this game
>>
>>182539268
It was worse for me because I bought the regular edition and I didn't know they patched Aldia in between the first time I played and when I revisited it after the Scholar patch.

>>182539150
>the blood brotherhood midget (forgot his name)
Titchy Gren
>>
>>182539268
Chill, listen to the dudes voice, its a cool voice so the dude is obviously also cool
>>
>>182539474
retarded flaming tree is a pretty cool guy
eh kills cylces and doesnt afraid of anything
>>
>>182539020
You err.. There?
>>
>>182540561
Which platform, faggot?
>>
>>182540639
Oh my god I forgot. PS4 mate, got it with BB I should comitt sudoku here and now
>>
How do you guys deal with passive players?
I get passive too and spam beckon gesture but I quickly lose patience and start charging head first.
>>
If you run into a character named Angel Knight Mel, black crystal out of there.
I've never experienced such an awful PvP invasion until I fought him.

He literally NEVER attacks until you do, I stood there for a solid 10 minutes, and all he did was strafe back and forth.
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>>182541171
>attacking first
That's just your usual tryhard, what weapon was he using tho?
>>
>>182541171
Sounds like a smart player.
>>
>>182532768
Wow Lucy, are you fucking mental?
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>>182541247
Angel Knight twin axes.

>try to attack first
>always running backwards and then goes for the L1
>decide to strafe left and right
>he just does the same thing for 10 minutes

@182541336
he can take that shit to the arena, i invaded for fun not for some trash duel
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Does the Old Leo Ring work work with Sun Sword's 1H R2?
Also, how the fuck does Old Leo Ring even work? When does it boost damage?
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>>182541362


>>182541372
You can take that shit to fight clubs.
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>>182541069
Throw Shit and Kukris at them before Pointing Down and BM'ing them. Or throw a hunter charm and chade them
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>>182541069
Spam 'Very Good' or clap at them.
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>>182541069
I become even more passive.
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>>182541386
Yes
Whenever the enemy is in an attack animation or recovering from one, counter windows are really broad in 2, leo ring multiplies your thrust attack damage during those frames by 12.5%
On 100 counter rating weapons thats 12.5% increased damage
On 150 counter rating weapons thats 18.75% increased in damage
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>>182541069
use a healing miracle every time they refuse to attack and my health isn't full
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>>182541829
ah, okay.
I might be retarded, but can you explain how Sun Sword is better than Longsword? Without upgrading either, Longsword has 25 more AR than Sun Sword. Some anons were saying that it's the best straight sword, but I fear I'm getting meme'd at here.
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>>182541171
In those situations I just sit down and wait. Better to deny them any pvp than to leave.
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>>182541979
Sitting down is a bad idea, and a good player will push your shit in for doing it. you're better off just standing there.
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>>182541659
I also do this but I get bored with it very quickly
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>None of the metal leggings match the dragonscale chest
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>>182541960
Longsword, 225 base damage at max upgrade 50% STR 25% DEX scaling
Sun Sword, 175 base damage at max upgrade 80% STR 45% DEX scaling
Scaling is a percetnage of your ATK: str/dex stat, it's not based on weapon base damage, so with higher stats the sun sword outdamages the longsword

That being said literally the ultimate PvP weapon in 2 is the Longsword
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>>182542169
That's what I hope for. I am legendarily stubborn and patient. I know that even if they try to counter by being passive too, they will eventually get frustrated and fuck it up.
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>>182542183
I-I still don't understand which is better
I think my autism is terminal
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>>182541892
This might work even though I dont like using magic. I'll have to respec again
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>>182542179
Ruin
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>>182542447
>>182542447
>>182542447
New
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>>182542341
At just minimun stats needed longsword is better
At 40/40 longsword has 225 + 157 damage = 337
At 40/40 the sun sword has 175 + 187.5 = 362
The way you gain ATK: str/dex isn't even either, certain levels give far more to the bonus than others so the 40/40 softcap is the only one people do math for.

That being said both use regular titanite to upgrade and you get enough materials by just beating a game to upgrade 4 weapons comfortably to max, far more if you use aesthetics/farm enemies that drop chuncks and you can just flat out buy infinite materials after you beat the game, so don't sweat it too much.

Long sword is still the better PvP weapon because it has a slightly better moveset, but sun sword and fume sword are both very close seconds
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>>182542183
>>182542341
You don't understand the basic mechanics of the game, so you shouldn't be worrying about optimization until you sit down and actually figure them out first. Scaling adds damage as you increase your strength or dex bonus. You must have really low stats for the sun sword to do less damage.

Longsword:
>285 at 15/15
>330 at 40/40

Sun Sword
>275 at 15/15
>350 at 40/40
>1HR2 thrust
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My First run. Don't understand anything. Just know that I fucked Up the onion bro questline by lighting a bonfire.
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Why everyone dislike this weapon? It helped me killing Friede and Ariandel at SL 30 and twin demons at SL 50 and I fell in love with it.
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>>182539150
Shitty boring NPCs beside lucatiel.
Ds2 is quantity over quality.
Many levels, Bosses and NPCs, but most of them are garabage.
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>>182543528
I don't like the way it looks, and a moveset without stabs is pretty lame imo.
Also the WA is spinslash, while I love stomp I think it goes best with golfswing because you can hardly ever land the spin stomp move
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