/tswg/ - The Secret World Legends General

I'm not surprised you died.
I am surprised you lasted this long.

the next time you die
i'm stealing your shoes

>>182378763
How are you supposed to know it's bullshit if you skip everything you stupid mongoloid?

>>182414546
>Black Sun, Red Sand needs the Marya after missions before you kill the Black Pharaoh
>Main bad guy says the Black Pharaoh is dead when you haven't even fucking killed him yet in the story
Come on, funcom.

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FATALITY

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Carterposting!

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>>182420654
>ywn take carter to prom

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>>182420654

>Even as you post this here, Danny fucks her in the rear

>>182420947
Danny is probably got filth exposed so her booty is probably safe. If he is fine then yeah, he is probably plowing her.

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>>182421001

>Probably

>>182421431
Carter is too distract by Filth Danny and gets Filth tentacle raped.

>>182421474

They have already gone on dates though, so she is being plowed by Danny filth or no filth

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Holy shit, they have one of these still in the game.

>>182421575
delete this it wasnt a date date

>>182421712
Imagine how annoyed I was after finding out.
In fact, I didn't like crafting at all in OG TSW.

>>182421835
It's amusing it is in the mission where you time travel.

>>182421712

It also bugs out and forces you to restart the quest before letting you combine the items

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>>182414546
>downtime in 6 hours 15 min
>downtime in 6 hours 15 min
>downtime in 6 hours 15 min

>>182422661
eh getting shamballala up again is worth a lil downtime

>>182422868
>The downtime will be 15 hours

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>last played in like, 2014 or something
>last real thing remember is fighting the huge super raid boss filth raven bird or whatever in the world tree regularly
>kinda wanna pick it up again now

Is it worth it to give it another go? I barely remember shit so I'd probably start over with a new character. Not sure if I'd stay Illuminati or go with someone else though.

>>182422443
It took me like seven tries trying to assemble the fake ancile.

>>182423692

no

>>182420947
To be fair Danny is the one who deserve her the most. It's obvious they like each other a lot.
>>182421431
A MONSTER SLAYER NEVER DIES
>>182421712
Also for the Taco achievment.

>>182423692
Sure why not

>>182423692
Yes. Go for it.
Also link your old account to the enw one with the website, leveling your skills will be significantly less of a pain.

>>182424197
Taco achievement?

Should I got Hammer/Chaos or Hammer/ Ele? Leaning Ele for my secondary but not 100%

pls help

>>182424354
I Like It Hot require you eat a taco way more spicy than what the vendor can offer you. So you're supposed to mix things up.

>>182423692
its free, try it but dont pay money

>>182424416
Hammer/Chaos if you want to tank, Hammer/ele if you want to dps/assist with debuff i'd say.

>>182424912
Given how much time i'm spending on it, i took the Patron thingy. I won't buy anything else though, but the patron seems worth it. It's not like I'm just playing some browser game.
Hopefully they won't listen to the gypsies on reddit too much and will bend things in the right direction.

>>182424416
I would say chaos provides better safety and utility for close range melee weapon such as hammer.
And you will have a tank role pretty much.
Also consider the outfit you will get for weapon capstone and weapon combos.

>>182425018
>giving them money
Screenshot my posts, and keep it on your desktop. Then later when you get fucked in the ass you can look back and remember you chose this.

>>182425183
Like i said, i'm only subbing for this month. I do not intend to buy aurum in the slightest.
And 12eu seems like a fair price for something i'll spend 200 hours on.

>>182425546
Watch out. Funcom chose possibly the worst merchant to handle online payment they could have short of having some dude named Yuri who lived in a van down by the river who accepted payments in Krokodil.

>>182426026
yuri is trustworthy

>>182426026
Yeah, found out after i spent my shekels.For now nothing wrong seems to have happened but I'm keeping an eye on my bank account.
They must be incredibly retarded though. Launching a game and only using suc a shady solution? I was blinded by my love for the original game, but I doubt the hardcore fanboys are that numerous.

I'm not subbing til they start releasing more story content, fuck this holding the new issues hostage behind pay2grind

>>182426282
Same here. I dropped a hundo on the big boy aurum platter, and then saw the redditor babbies screeching and now I fear for my butt.

>>182426282
Funcom's incapable of good business decisions.

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>>182426579
That's probably a good decision. Sadly, if a lot of people do the same they'll see this relaunch as a failure and won't release anything new.

>>182427017
RIGHT
ITS INFURIATING
BUT ID RATHER HAVE MY MONEY AND NO GAME THAN NO MONEY AND ONLY MAYBE POSSIBLY A GAME

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>>182427048
As usual, everything is shit.

>>182426673
What does that much aurum get you?

>>182427419
Way too litle for it to be worth it.

>>182419908
I dont care for stories in general. Dont get so upset over your beloved game, autist

>>182427419
>>182427607

Dropped a hundred as well, the aurum got me pretty much nowhere. Got further trading it all for MoF and buying up gear but still, didn't alleviate the grind.

The 3rd age coins you get only buy 2 pip purple gear btw, so they jew you twice over

>>182427751
Then why play this game when other much better exist gameplay-wise with much more content? Serioulsy it makes no sense.

>>182427772
The 2pip gear makes good fusion fodder for going to yellow tho i'd assume

So Last Train to Cairo is chronologically after you do the initial story line, correct? Why did they throw it into the main story.

Went Blood Blade and it feels like ass
Is Blood Pistols better?

>>182420947
> things are about to get really gross

>>182427941
Its free and new

>>182421712
Newbie here
Roman weapons? Roman supplies? Holy fucking shit, do I get to use a gladius??

>>182429979
Those are for a quest
And weapon skins arent in yet but yes you could use a gladius

>>182430049
muh dick
I'll be waiting patiently for those skins

>>182429560

yknow, now that I think about it, she and Danny couldn't have had sex. You know how some girls have trouble controlling their bladders during sex, especially when they're younger/newer to it? She can hardly control her powers as it is, I imagine if she ever orgasmed she'd probably kill her partner and burn the house down

The match is struck.
A blazing star is born.

>>182430542
>Carter Climaxes
>half of soloman island gets glassed
That would be pretty funny.

>>182431753
>wants to go for round 2
>and round 3
>and round 4

>>182431803

Would be the best night of sex ever, you'd wind up in a crater half way to the center of the earth by the end

Anyone has already made a list of missions that are really fast to do, so you can quickly get the daily bonuses? Like Draugnet, it's p good, bit of running, can be done in like 2 minutes.

>>182432321

Been meaning to make a list like this myself.

Trick is it would depend on your load/sprint speeds and they'd have to be in the same area, I'd probably try egypt first. Good exp without hitting the health sponges you get from transylvania.

Dungeons count for main quests and bounty kills count for side quests, so if you wanted you could get a group of 5 and bang out dungeons quick then just patrol areas that frequently give bounty quests.

>>182432321
I do first zombie quest + delivery, elm street blues, both package sidequests and the ward quest in church on my alts, takes like under 10min to do

>>182432632
Solo Polaris normal is the best to do if you just want to blow all your keys that day too, right?

>>182432531
I just teleport around a lot at this point.
I do Fistful of Zombie from Boone, grab the ammo on the way, Draugnet from Andy, Norma's first mission, then Hawthorne's red mission and Hell Hath No Vacancy from Back, doing bounties on the way.

>>182432678
Eh blowing keys on polaris sounds like a waste, doing slaughterhouse or facility takes like 20min and gives better distillates

>>182432694

That works, I just cant stand those kingsmouth quests, seen them too many times

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Are challenge logs shared between characters or are they unique to each one? I want to level an alt since I'm leveling another character with my friend, but I don't want my main character to miss out on any logs.

>>182433513
Yeah but on the other hand, it barely takes any time to do them.

>>182433852
unique to each one

>>182433852
Each char has their own daily challenge list, so 2 chars = 2x the MoF
>>182434224
SD quests are also pretty fast once your level is high enough for the mobs to ignore you.

what is shambala?

>people getting banned for grouping up to kill mobs
on top of all that has been said in general, why do you retards keep supporting this game/company?

>>182436578
nani

>>182436652
le patreon seems worth XD

>>182437416
no i mean
what's this about people getting banned for grouping

>>182437571
grouping caused xp gains from killing mobs to multiply
some people abused it and got banned and now are totally le innocent victims crying on reddit

>>182437571
People were abusing the fact that xp is multiplied for each person. With a full raid group, people were going round Transylvania, pulling loads of mobs and farming a shit ton of AP & SP.

>>182438001
Well, it could be said that they kind of are innocent victims.
Not innocent as in that they didn't do anything, but innocent in the sense that they merely saw an opportunity in a dev's mistake.
It's just xp, they shouldn't even care. It doesn't affect the value of aurum or mof. Wasn't there some Aurum exploit in launch and literally no one got banned from that?
I guess you could make a case about AP and SP gains hurting Funcom because you can buy those with aurum, but I at least don't believe them to be the primary investment of people who buy aurum.

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How useful is this for a blood dps?
Or is Eldritch better?

>>182439737
eldrich tome has to be better

>>182441025
I mean, how much of a problem is self damage when you dps with blood? Small or big?

So I'm jumping from rooftop to rooftop 15 minutes ago, and now a new mission tells me to tail a guy in a suit.
This is some Asscreed shit right here. What's next, mission tells me to air assassinate 15 cultists? Man I wish I could dress up like Altair

>>182422443
>>182424035

simple /reloadui or using another station does the trick. something chokes up in the background after first use

>>182428871
because it explains what happens with the evil dude etc.
it fits somwhat, no big deal really.

tyler freeborn being a lvl30-something quest is the actual bad idea.

>>182443248
what should the tyler quest be then?

>>182438943

>Well, it could be said that they kind of are innocent victims.
at that level you'd assume someone seeing "hey, we get multiple times more exp" to test it a bit, then report it and move on, not HEY GUYS LET'S DO A RAID AND EXPLOIT THE SHIT OUT OF IT FOR HOURS XD" especially after the aurum shit that happened and got people banned for good. the conscious effort is what makes them stop being "innocent victims".

>I guess you could make a case about AP and SP gains hurting Funcom because you can buy those with aurum, but I at least don't believe them to be the primary investment of people who buy aurum.

you either have to spend time or money for it. sure, it's more on a personal level and doesn't really affect others, but it means potential lost income and funcom already had a "no fun allowed" policy when it comes to abusing exploits, so I don't really know why people are surprised.

besides, you need that stance. if you let even one thing slide the next time people will whine about THEY DIDN'T GET BANNED WHY DID WE??! WAAAAAAAAAA (and it was only a suspension anyway, not a ban).

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>Server Status: Offline

>>182443947
after 50 once you're done with the story, like it was done in TSW.

>>182444323
??? Are you retarded?

>>182444295
>and it was only a suspension anyway, not a ban
Then it's fine, but how long can it be for them to be bellyaching about it? I doubt Funcom's going to take their exploited XP away either.

>>182444421
What?

>>182444536
It's scheduled. EVERYBODY knew about this since yesterday

>>182444615
And that means I'm retarded if I'm annoyed I can't play? Get some sleep, grump.

>>182444840
Yes it means you are retarded. Because you KNEW when it was going to be down Let's be honest you didn't which is why you are mad and so you could have easily planed around it. You could have done a multitude of other activities in this time and play later.
But no you are that reddit shitter that we had a couple of threads ago who checks if the game servers are online by going to reddit instead of the game launcher

>>182445092
Jesus Christ, you've got some paranoia. I'm not whatever fucking faggot you seem to have an obsession with. If you had actually read my harmless post instead of overreacting, you'd see that the text I'm quoting is text from the game launcher and not Reddit. No one's mad here except you, you goddamned autist.

>>182444490
it could be 1 minute and those retards on reddit would still find something to whine about. just look at the whole "it takes 8 years and millions of shards to max ONE item!!!! FUNCOM WANTS YOU TO PAY MONES" which was complete bs, yet there were multiple threads about it and people shitting themselves they'll never get a BIS weapon that they don't even NEED.

add to that the constant whining since launch about item progression and that the game isn't literally wow...
no idea where those fucking turbocasuals come from just regurgitating shit they don't even get (like the AH limit or how progression independent of drops means RNG won't fuck you over).

>>182445470
>buzzwords ahoy
Good comeback, doesn't change the fact you are a shitter who can't either plan or read.

>>182445867
not him, but you're fucking retarded mate.

>you are not allowed to dislike the server being offline when you want to play

>>182445867
Please point out which one of those were buzzwords besides "faggot."

>>182445972
>but you're fucking retarded mate.
Hmm yes, lets consider the facts.
A person who think server downtime is impossible to avoid at some point in time and that as long as there is decent notification so people can plan around it and not waste time, there is literally zero reason to be upset.
>you are not allowed to dislike the server being offline when you want to play

On the other hand, we have a person who is mad servers are down, even when notified ahead of time of said thing.
>I want the servers to be ALWAYS UP
>How DARE they be EVER down
>I am legit upset this happened
>don't you dare point out I am a retard, I Have a RIGHT to be upset about servers being down

>>182446418
You're reading too much into a post that was a simple picture and some green text that could have easily been done in good faith. Seriously, go to sleep.

Update 2.0.2 continues the main story mission following the events of “Mortal Sins”. You will receive instructions on how to proceed if you have completed “Mortal Sins” and are on the mission “What Was Missed”. Investigate a rising threat, uncover secret Orochi facilities, and expose a crucial part of the story that sets up the events leading to Tokyo!
General:
Fixed an issue that could occasionally cause the Use icon to become stuck on screen.
Green distillates will no longer drop in Elite dungeons. You will always at least be rewarded with a blue distillate item when gaining distillates.
Fixed an issue that could cause the health value for bosses to display incorrectly on the client.
Forming raid groups and Shambala are once again available. We apologize for the inconvenience their unavailability may have caused.
Last but not least, we’re happy to announce that PayPal is available as a payment option! The future is now.

>>182447854
what is shambala?

>>182448209
pvp

>>182448253
do you get any useful rewards from doing it?

>>182448373
research shows that winning in pvp gives you a bigger dick

>>182448478
im happy with my cock size

so no gear or special items?

>>182448546
Bit of anime shards, regardless whether you win or lose. Winning gives more, obviously.
Can't remember if there was anything else, but if there is, it isn't substantial.
Only played a couple of rounds. Pvp in TSW was ass and it still is. At least Shambala rounds are over in a couple of minutes, unlike Eldorado.

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Help

>>182449029
the bike man is coming from you
do not imagine you can hide from it

>>182447854
oh shit so its the nursery storyline already? i assumed july would mean like last days of july

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>>182436295
baby don't hurt me

I don't know shit about the game but I heard character creation got fucked hard with removed options and features. Has the devs said anything about it?

Anyone had a problem with grenades not expiring when you leave combat?

When do I get the option to bend Cassie over

>>182453641
Nope
Everyone is waiting on Aldini to return, no doubt going to cost hundreds if not thousands if Aurum

>>182457142
>Nope
So they do the whole, just ignore it until it goes away, thing. That's a shame.

>>182438943
Nah man, one dude was gloating in twitch about bringing in randoms and stirring shit on reddit.

>>182457495
Yeah and it's a real mystery why it was changed in the first place.
The game is essentially the same. It would have cost them nothing to just have the old face creator in the new client. Instead it was redesigned. My guess is as good as yours why.

>>182457495
Yeah, for some reason a lot of shit disappeared instead of returning as cash options. Whack yo

>>182457923
Speaking of cashshop, is it even in the game yet? I looked for it yesterday and couldn't find anything.

>>182458065
There's no separate shop. You buy currency and use it to buy stuff in game.

>>182458065
There is no cash shop, they have random ass buy buttons everywhere

>>182459074
What the fuck are they even doing?

Speaking of cash shop, can you buy items? Can you buy the third age coin thing?

>>182457142
Aldini?

>>182460447
Plastic surgeon. Was in the original.

>>182443248
I actually preferred it that way when it was 'hidden' mission.

Arent these the people who did Conan Exiles?
This game doesnt even have breast sliders

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>>182463373
Pussy sliders when? aldini pls

>>182460331
Well, you can buy keys which give like 10 3rd age coins each

>I don't know what lies at the end of the road, but it's not good. For any of us.
Kingsmouth's psychic knows they're all dead already. Damn.

>>182463719
Wew lad

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Rate my edge

>>182464541
>Bandicam
You did this on purpose, didn't you?

>>182464659
Yes, would have stopped years ago if I didn't get a (you) literally every single time

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>>182463373
But it has crossdressing, even more than that..

>>182445798
>it could be 1 minute and those retards on reddit would still find something to whine about
Imagine if Funcom gave an item, for everyone for free, that gives you all active and passive skills + writes your taxes, I bet those fuckwits at Reddit would STILL find problem with it.

>>182464541
What level are these enemies?

>>182466236
35
Did you even watch the clip?

>>182464541
kek

>>182466402
Can't see that well on my phone DESU

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Did the original game have a combat knife type of skin for blades? I want to use blade as my secondary but swinging around a big sword doesn't really fit the aesthetic I'm going for.

>>182467835
Hmm who let the /fa/scists in

>>182464541
Energy suffixes on both weapons?
Damn, I think I'll switch.

>>182467835
Unfortunately no. I think there was only one dagger, and it wasn't a modern looking one. There were a couple of machete looking ones. Probably best you can get if they ever come to Legends.

>>182470278
Pistols is mk1 resoration. Sword is mk 3 destruction

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>>182464541
>equilibrium/10

>try to impair ability you used to impair in tsw
>cant interrupt it anymore
>wipe
eric simply eric

>>182475161
>ezmode
>new game
>no more ezmode
WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

>>182475332
nah its ezmode now since the ground stuff now disappears instead but im still kinda peeved

Do anima-touched weapons heal you for all the damage you deal or only the amount of damage the passive deals?

>>182477875
Only passive

>>182482983
Gotcha, ty

>>182464541
No explosion happening behind you.

>>182488556
Shitty edge.

>>182464541
Not even a dress/trench coat or shades
And are those WHITE gloves?
Tacky

It's like you've discovered the socks and sandals equivalent of edge

Where the fuck is Deathstalker in the Scorched Desert? I've been hitting every dust swirly for like 30 minutes now.

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>tfw womanlet

>>182493890
>doesn't even know what I am going for
>techcoat, shades, just like the matrix XD
No thanks

>>182495103
Random chance of appearing in any scorpion burrow

I got it within 20 scorpion kills

>>182496869
Got it after 40 minutes of killing scorpions.

>>182496927
Well at least it's not No More Heroes

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I know most folks end up with a character in each society, but who's your main or favorite, /tswg/

http://www.strawpoll.me/13421574

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Jesus christ, this was quite a fight to solo.

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Any one know when they plan on adding back the auxiliary weapons so i can go full commando and use the RPG with rifle and duel pistols?

>>182502267
I think there was some road map for it but I'm not sure if they had auxilary weapons on it.

>>182502360
I wonder if they're gonna make those their own full-fledged weapon instead of an add-on

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Man, the nursery was actually a pretty disturbing place. Not so much the living space with the nanny bots, but the research labs with the clipboards detailing the experiments.

>>182502505
That would be very cool.

>>182502505
>an MMO will actually add whips as a weapon type
welp

>>182503552
I wonder why whips get no love as a weapon type in most MMOs.

>>182503853
Because they're fucking gay

>>182503925
Say that to my face and not online and see what happens.

>>182503925
>not liking/knowing Indiana Jones as a kid
>not liking/knowing Castlevania as a kid

Underage or shit tier spotted

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>>182504586
Bitch please

>>182506436
>Blade user fighting a pistol user

>>182506520
This scene was actually suggested by Harrison Ford himself.

>>182506606
Yeah, he was suffering from a mild case of dysentery at that time. There was supposed to be a long sword fighting scene between the two, but because he didn't feel that well, Ford just asked "Couldn't I just shoot the guy?" and that scene is the result.

>>182507019
Point is whip is a uselessly complicated POS

I mean it fits in thematically with Secret World, don't get me wrong, it's a ridiculous comic book setting at times. But that doesn't change the fact that whips are e.

Fist weapon pompoms fucking WHEN

>>182507094
>whips are e
e?

>>182507794
xtremely gay

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>>182507684
SPAS when

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>>182507684
>>182508159
FIST SHOTGUNS WHEN

>>182508159
Tier 4 in TSW

>>182508863
Yeah, but when in SWL?

>>182508935
It might confuse too many people

>>182509679
So they dumbed it down so casuals would take the bait but it is probably going to die anyway, huh?

>>182513532
Yeah, not enough accessible cosmetics to whet the appetite. While they're setting up a more profitable business model, they're lacking so much of the legwork that makes it profitable.

Missing faction decks kills it for me

RPG i want it NOW

>>182516954
faction decks?

>>182518856
In TSW, you were rewarded faction-specific outfits for completing certain thematic weapon builds. A lot of those have disappeared from the SWL cosmetics wardrobe, and some of them return as piecemeal or set items rather than complete outfits. There were 33 outfits, now pared down to 9.

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>>182518856
>tfw can't find the giant Reddit compilation pic with all faction deck outfits when I need it the most

http://yokaiblog.wikidot.com/guides:faction-decks

>>182502505
Well not to give your hopes up, but there have been multiple leaks on the old aux weapons. Pretty much all of them are being upgraded to full fledged weapons.

>>182515542
Effectively.

Tsw's skill wheel and pax purchase clothing gave everyone a unique look.

Now clothes take days to get. Literal days, I could have farmed for an hour and purchased a full set of new clothes in the original.

>>182496927
I found him when accidentally stepping on the scorpion dust during a mission. Was like OMG a rare is following me all if a sudden, stop and fight it!

Anyone know how to find Cicatris in the Scorched Desert? I can't find him anywhere online.

>>182524369
you need to spawn him, needs 5 people.

>>182525136
Where? Is it a lair boss?

>>182525943
Probably

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>>182524369
>>182526639
Goddamnit, niggers, first google hit for "secret world Cicatris"

>>182526975
I was searching "Cictris secret world" and got nothing. I don't use google though.

>>182527694
>I don't use google though.
Sadly, Google still is the best search engine.

>>182522630
>Pretty much all of them are being upgraded to full fledged weapons.
Funnily enough, I don't have problem with this, but gotta see how they're gonna handle it.

>>182529641
if you look at existing weapons they're aren't really that different. basic/resource/ST/AOE/elite. tank/heal just have hate generation and heal in their skills with lower damage.

not expecting anything surprising, just hope the gimmick isn't too annoying/crap.

>>182530243
I could believe flamethrower having some hate generating skills, but I wouldn't believe it to have any single target skills, how you would do single target skills on flamethrower or let alone RPG? Unless you just smack single enemy with them.

>>182530367
They pretty much need to have them, to follow the same formula of other weapons.
It doesn't matter if it unrealistic. The weapons aren't weapons but foci. In original you fired a full salvo of rockets or a mini nuke, or discharged oil from the flamethrower.
If they make them full standalone weapons they'll just whip something up to fit all the skill types the other weapons have.

>>182530821
Honestly the new weapon skill trees are really boring.

>>182531204
Yes, they are.
No synergies means no interesting and creative builds.
No interesting and creative builds means stagnant and boring combat because you don't need to adapt.
Absence of synergies and needing to adapt means no theorycrafting.
No theorycrafting means a stagnant game in every field.

Not to say that original wouldn't have stagnated at all, because it did, but there was still choice, and when it came to building your character through the main story understanding the mechanics was essential.

>>182531870
What killed it originally?

>>182533205
retards fucking up builds and quitting on the spot since fucking retard build when you hit BM/egypt meant lmao go back and grind in start zone until you get enough AP to fix it

>>182533334
The problem was the freedom. People just took skills in a bit of everything.
Sticking to even just the shitty default decks was enough to get past BM/Egypt and to carry you until you really started caring about builds, but people wanted to try everything at once.

>>182533205
TSW had a lot of options on how one would approach a certain situation or role, but they ultimately came down to relatively minor differences in execution. It still felt better because you had the choice of hundreds of abilities that synergized with each other over the boundaries of weapons.
Lack of new skills (auxiliaries brought something new, but weren't really essential to most builds) and lack of more major balance updates meant that things kind of solidified to set few optimal strategies.

I remember back to days of Guild Wars where new skills and constant, constant updates meant that the game didn't stay the same for extended periods at a time. It was dynamic and constantly changing, new builds and flavor of the month strategies emerging constantly.
TSW just didn't embrace the metagame, which is understandable as PvP was never big, nor liked, but that affected group PvE content as well.
And as said mechanics actually played a part, unlike now.
BM or arriving at Egypt was a difficulty spike, as said here >>182533334. It was a source of grievance for many. Funcom made the early game easier at one point.

>>182533965
>People just took skills in a bit of everything.
I'll never understand this. Who is enough of an idiot to start picking skills from several weapons right at the beginning? The game makes it clear that your AP and SP aren't plentiful enough at that point to do that.
I don't even remember the notorious BM difficulty spike hitting me because I'd invested in only two weapons which seemed to go together.
Once I'd confirmed that this works I started looking at passives from other weapons.
And yeah the premade decks were fine and functional.

>>182531870

Not only that but they removed several stats too, as far as I can tell there's no penetration or block. So, tanks now just stack health and defense, everyone else is damage and crit. Boring as can be.

>>182534349
Evasion is still in the game!

>>182534349
Penetration was kinda stupid tho so I dont mind it being gone

>>182534578

Point is it was at least something to consider, balancing crit/pen/critpower for dungeons and scenarios at least allowed for a bit of theorycrafting. Crunching the numbers to find the optimal stats was nice.

Feels cheap when there's only one stat to manage.

>>182534703
Theres two stats tho, crit and critpower

>>182534750

you need to stop busting my balls, Im getting upset

>>182531870
you still need to adapt, ghouls in transylvania showering you in debuff mean you need to run a cleanse for example.
plus you underestimate the laziness and stupidity of the average player. just look at overwatch, they think it's a "deep and complex" game.

if funcom is smart they don't turn aux weapons into primaries, but keep them separate which synergise with your primary - right now the 2nd weapon is just energy dump dps or utility anyway, perfect spot for aux weapons (and a lot of synergies in TSW were just "expose with skill X, spam skill Y that does more damage to exposed targets"). the debuffs are still there, nothing says they can't be used for aux weapons.
not to mention on a gameplay level. rocket lawnchair to buff lackluster rifle dps as ranged? whip as tank utility to pull or dps to stun?

Gadgets might be the best thing about rework, its like better misc skills

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>>182533334
can't blame retards completely, the game didn't give you any warning which combinations were shit and no one can expect the average casual to read pages of guides, especially when he just wants to log in and play. that step comes later - but at that point you were already fucked. telling your players "haha, suck it" isn't very clever. and didn't they actually introduce a way to reset AP etc later in TSW? if they had that from the start the games would've been received quite differently.

>>182533991
TSW just like GW1 had plenty of filler skills and stuff no one used. there were a few meme builds and stuff you could come up with yourself, but then get fucked over by the mobs (started with AR/pistol and suffered through BM and SD, switched to hammer/sword and got fucked over by half the mobs in transylvania being resistant to that combo).
with that amount of skills you'll never be able to properly balance them or foresee any unintended combinations that could possibly break the game. it's a shitload of work and someone knows what he's doing to keep it stable and fresh at the same time (same reason izzy dumbed down gw2 so hard because it's a lot less work and why bother? people ate it up anyway).

>>182534306
premades came later, and starting another weapon was the only way to "switch", since there was no reset. so when you hit BM you have skill all over the place neither enough for your starting weapon or you new one. funcom should've just let people reset points till lvl30 or even 50 and saved themselves a lot of headaches and drama.

So the enemies at The Living Oil, are they supposed to be Level 50?

>>182539416
Also the enemies are standing right on top of the dates, I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be that way.

>>182539416
>>182539527
you're supposed to use the things to distract them dude, did you miss the whole point of yellow missions?

>>182539145
>with that amount of skills you'll never be able to properly balance them or foresee any unintended combinations that could possibly break the game.
Which was a big factor in why GW was so fun.
Yes, memebuilds and new discoveries sometimes completely broke the balance but things never got boring. Those had to be nerfed out, which paved the way for new unforeseen combinations.
Every time I discuss GW with someone they remember this shifting metagame with fondness, even if something was annoying to face for a while in PvP.

It's understandable why Funcom went for streamlining a lot of the filler skills out, because it's true that no one used them, but they didn't just trim the amount of abilities from 500+ to something more reasonable, they also removed mechanics, and this aspect didn't need any reworking.

>>182540106
>Every time I discuss GW with someone they remember this shifting metagame with fondness, even if something was annoying to face for a while in PvP.
I'm all for it too, but I can see the other side of the coin. and with games getting more and more expensive and companies more risk-averse and stingy with their money there's a reason they don't do it anymore.

>they also removed mechanics, and this aspect didn't need any reworking.
don't underestimate the amount of stupidity in the average playerbase. I know a guy (avid blizzard games player, go figure) that didn't even know how to put a fucking shortcut on his desktop WHEN I SHOWED HIM HOW LITERALLY FIVE MINUTES EARLIER. instead he came back and complained about this and everything, and when I checked he moved the .exe to the desktop.

it lost a lot, but there's still quite a bit of stuff you have to consider, like who brings the purge? does the tank cleanse itself, does the healer need to, does this fight even need a purge (means more dps skills) asf.

>>182539145

>Mobs in transylvania being resistant to sword/hammer builds

what the fuck am I reading

>>182541175
pretty sure they some of them were immune to expose/debilitate/whatever, means gl using anything that build on that.

>>182541018
idk as a tank i just slot in appropriate gadgets for each fight

>>182541357

I dont remember anything like that, only immunities I can think of are the deathless in transylvania that can't be stunned

>>182541018

>Who brings the purge/who brings the cleanse

That's not "quite a bit of stuff" that's two things and they hardly take any consideration

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hmm le guys, why don't you support this le innocent le le le company? Just buy the pateron, it's a good deal goy!

>>182542631
The problem seems to be the poor German translation, it says "buy" instead of "subscribe".

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How do I have fun if I hate questing?

>>182542631

>Pay to open loot
>Pay to run dungeons
>Pay to get gear
>Pay to get skills
>Pay to breath
>All payments are through a shady company known for fraud
>Patron model is actual commercial fraud in some countries

Oh I'm laffin, Funcom in a fucking nutshell

>>182542741
You play a different game.

>>182542750
like 90% of these are epic overexaggerations

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>>182542901
>merely an exaggeration goy

>>182542901

Wrong, you are dumb

>>182520634
Mercenary deck skills on itself were a bit or miss, but the outfit is 5/5

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>>182542785
....welp ...

>>182542631
I'm fairly sure your subscriber status renewed each month in OG TSW as well. And it does the same on PS+ or Xbox Live. Some other games do this as well IIRC. This is literally creating nuclear bomb out of a firecracker.

>>182542741
what do you find "fun"?

>>182542901
Holy shit how much do they pay you to shill

>>182543079
>>182543158
>>182543787
Paying for lootboxes is true
Dungeons costing 3k marks beyond the first two is not the same as paying
The intended level of gear reachable atm is obviously epic, options to buy sooper ultra mega gear is just in there to milk retards who don't understand that there's nothing that needs that gear yet
You get more than enough skills playing normally
Sure paymens are kinda scammy i'll concede that too

Pretty much all payment things are pay for convenience

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>>182543612
I prefer killing stuff ... and some sort of rewarding exploration, which TSW lacks - aside from Lenends - no chests, no random generated shot, no rewarding minibosses.

>>182545126
>I prefer killing stuff
play doom, call of duty, assassins creed

>>182545126
Go grind mobs or whatever?

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>>182545283
By killing stuff I mean something related to grinding .... levels and gear. Sadly gear is only acquired by running dungeons ( fuck dungeon keys ) and doing shitty ass missions .... which is annoying to me after few hours.

>>182545458
Have you ever considered that you should play this game for the story and atmosphere and not "just kill stuff to get loot". Or are you that guy who skips all story in this game?

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>>182545621
At first I was following the story and kept watching the cinematics, at some point I've lost interest - sadly.

>Log in.
>Can't get my daily login reward.
Great.

>>182546493
You tried manually clicking the present box thing?

>>182546350
nothing wrong with that, but at this point it's probably easier to just look for a game that offers what you find more fun.
or grind the missions that are mainly killing stuff + bounties (they count as side missions), then the dungeons.

>>182547381
Instead of my reward, there's just an empty black square.
Can't get my free daily key either.

>>182544527

>Sure paymens are kinda scammy i'll concede that too
that's more on hi-pay. least we got paypal know.

>Pretty much all payment things are pay for convenience
didn't you hear? convenience is p2w too. fuck, just paying for stuff is p2w.

>>182543398

>This is literally creating nuclear bomb out of a firecracker.
SWL subreddit in a nutshell

>>182547678
Rewards reset earlier than keys/challenges, you didnt claim rewards like 3h before reset?

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>>182545126
>and some sort of rewarding exploration, which TSW lacks
Rare mobs are numerous, respawn quicly and always drop an item.
Lore give xp and achievments.
Also, even if you dislike them, some quests are hidden.
And I'm not even talking about hidden achievment rewarding stuff or titles like the floor is lava or else that you'll only find while exploring. Or items like the RJ parts that'll serve to summon a monster, that you find on the floor.

TSW does reward exploration.

>>182547779
Nope.

>>182441623
Complete Kingsmouth 100% and you'll have a sick feathery hood sadly it looks like shit on female model, since it gets rid of their hairdo

>>182542182
wanted to check it in TSW and now the patcher has downloaded and overwritten it with SWL. wtf funcom?!

>>182542458
it's already annoying enough if no one brings that shit in story mode, high elite and raid will be a lot of fun if you try to run it with your solo questing build.

>>182545458
Sounds more like you would have fun playing Diablo, Torchlight or something or the genre, no? I'm not being sarcastic

>>182547886
>Rare mobs are numerous, respawn quicly and always drop an item.

only the first time.

>>182547779
Why don't they reset at the same time?

>>182548134
its a mystery

>>182548124
Well yeah. I do enjoy marking them and other shit on my map tho, even if i probably won't get an alt.

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what are you fags getting worked up about

>>182549892
if you dont slam the cancel it autorenews
just like every other subscription ever

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>queue as healer
>Ankh
>"tank" has 4k hp
>check his gear
>1 health talisman, rest is a mix of attack and heal rating
>ok let's try this
>barely manage to heal the first boss
>fail miserably at second
>I tell the tank to fuck off with his gear and vote kick him
>pm him saying to not queue as tank if he can't tank
>"b-but I can do whatever I want!"

>switched to hammer/sword and got fucked over by half the mobs in transylvania being resistant to that combo
Mobs buffing themselves for evade/glance are just as much a pain in the ass for magic/ranged physical.
The only mob i can think being a general pain is a boss for a quest that switches every 5 seconds to being immune to physical damage .. and the other 5 seconds he's immune to magic.

So yeah, all the same.

>>182549892
>>182550068
And in some translations of their website, it doesn't say "subscription" or "subscribe" anywhere, apparently.

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>>182550248
>queue as tank
>get ankh
>still no clue what to do on melothot or if i should run up and hit klein on last fight
at least it works out but thats because E1s seem pretty easy overall

>>182550667
is there someone you're replying to, or
what's up

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>>182550667
>Mobs buffing themselves for evade/glance
Fucking vampires. Annoying even when you had 600 hit.

>DPS race to kill the fucking supersoldiers before you're stunned
Practically had to have Contortionist and Sleight of Hand lest you get fucked in the butt during that unavoidable stun

I wish already there were more AR leecher healer but no, we have to get less dps because healers believe they do a good job by going *shink shink* 24/7 with their faggot kitten paws.

>>182551162
leech healer here
i'm still in egypt because i only play this game for a little bit each day
please wait warmly

>>182551162
I miss old AR leech healing,

>>182551162
Doesn't AR heal less and do less damage now?

>>182551042
Dont run up
period

>>182551798
yeah i know
not running up feels wrong tho

>>182551831
If you run up you lose on dps and need to fight the giant for longer

>>182550248
>>182551042
what stats as tank should you have for e1? are there any new mechanics compared to story?

>>182552383
no clue, i started at like 120 ilv and it went fine
mechanics seem pretty much unchanged except you REALLY need to dodge aoe now

>>182552383
You can totally go full hp gear, you won't lose aggro.
Few tips though
>10% glance reduction minimum, 15% comfy
>rest def
>maybe 2 crit for extra energy regen on said crit (i have 2 dps pieces and i slot crit on it so it will serve later if i switch role)

I have 8K hp when not under my hp boost, 12K when active.
With actives & their passives, i'm making a rotation in which i have a huge shield for 5 seconds, 60% dmg reduction for the next 5, 65% dmg reduction for the next 8.

I'm just not extra tanky for barely 2 seconds and since boss cast or have low attack speed, it's a breeze.

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>>182549892
:^)
I hoped for Aurum prices to fall after Paypal got introduced.

>>182554507
I'm still kind of annoyed that patrons don't get some form of Aurum per month. Much like we used to get premium currency monthly in TSW.

>>182554507
mildy jelly

i think everyone expected too much
if people wanted to whale not having a paypal option wouldnt stop them.

>>182552383
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HVgBeFTbXH0eZ5dJVtzXXm6HyITMHLUyM8avntoPOSI/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

>>182555484
Reddit would still throw a shitfit, even if it was non-exchangeable Aurum.

>first thing in egypt is a middle eastern war zone, featuring civilians who may or may not want to murder you, streets fucking lined with plastic explosives and two suicides in the first ten minutes
i'm already a demon

>>182552549
>>182553126
>>182555845
thx, gonna look into that. what level are lairs at? same as e1 or higher due to the glance effects etc?

We pull in money
recruits
just to combat Aten

>>182555484
Indeed. It was even better, you'd get some exclusive shit, a pet, some clothes or something of the sort, 1200 shop money and a small sum of an exclusive shop money that you could use to buy other exclusive content, like the preorder pets.

>>182556491
I recall lairs being intended for mid-level purple gear (aka they are endgame atm)

Are the filth a reference to niggers? I don't see blacks anywhere except for flith

>>182558304
The templar's central command is black. He's a pretty cool guy.

>>182558304
The Templar intermediary is black. Also you see a few of them along the stories. Zuberi. That hitgirl from the illuminatis. One of the bad guys from SC/SOTSG.

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>>182548098
Already tired of them .... I just want to get some loot with variety ... or something. Even if there was a shitty cave with a shitty chest ... or something ...after all I want to be the very best, Like no one ever was ... I just want to feel useful. In the current state of my shitty ass gear, the limited dungeon drops and the fact that I get only shitty ass loot I only use to melt..my medic feels freaking underwhelming. Still waiting for an AR that's a bit interesting ... compared to the dungeon drop shotgun that gives you additional 300 dmg if you're lucky after reload. The grenade " minigame " was fun at 1st. ... it's a shitty mechanic, but could be worse... and it's fucking atrocious when you get knockedback before using the nade... and it blows up in your face.

>>182556491
Like >>182557916 said, don't go in lairs yet if you just started elite. In lairs, simple mobs can hit up to 6-7K on low tanks, up to 9k on dps. You have to be prepared.

>>182558928
You ever considered not being fucking autistic?

>>182556924
???

>>182565424
uncultured swine

>>182565424
rubbing our noses in filthy battlefield sand
all for revenge

>>182565607
Go rub your dick somewhere else if you can't stay civil, Kojifag.

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>Only one quest involving the sasquatch bro's now

>>182574795
what
theres three quests with the sasswatches, just that two of them are gated behind main q

>>182575156
Oh are they? That's not as bad then I guess. I remember the sasquatch chief being a quest giver.

So anyone found any smart ways to farm shards except pvp?

>>182575323
He is. The missions unlock during the main quest.
>>182575921
Well, you can "convert" MoF to shards by buying agarthan caches from AH.

>>182570416
havent even played the game but go ahead and pretend that knowing less is cool.

Halina best boss who did nothing wrong.

>>182574795
I wish there was more to them. Like a mission where you are ambushed by ak'abs and a few sasquatch come out of the woods and help you. That would be nice.

>>182579257
True.

>>182579257
Who?

>>182556484
I liked how it hit kind of close to home in that sense.

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Anyone know how the fuck I take my shirt off? Trying to remove my t-shirt doesn't work.

This is important.

>>182587979
Don't you just deselect what you are currently wearing?

>>182587979
You may have to glitch it with a full ensemble outfit like the CDC hazmat suit. At least thats how it works in TSW.

>>182588258
Nah don't think so, trying to remove my shirt in the dressing room menu won't work.

>>182588301
I'll try that. Which mission is "Up In Flames"? Haven't gotten the hazmat suit yet, I'm level 44.

>>182580203
Or actually seeing them work with the army

>>182588729
Its in the tunnel between Blue ridge and Kingsmouth. Head north from CDC camp.

>>182590184
Thanks man, appreciate it.

What level should you be when leaving BM?

>>182588301
How exactly?

>>182590897
mid 30's maybe?

Whats a good setup for healing Elites with rifle and what is the minimum gear i should have?

>>182594775
epic weapon, superior talismans is solid

>>182587979

You have to purchase the bare chested option

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>>182595648
>pay for clothes
>pay for no clothes

>>182595648
Is that a thing? If so, how can I do that? Is it in TSWL?

Any one want to do lairs or something im getting kinda tired of farming the same 3 dungeons over and over for gear to level up

>>182600573
Sure

>>182600883
cool

:^)

>>182596848

Im not sure they've got the cosmetics shop in yet

>>182596291
Male only though

>>182602293
It's in through the clothes

>>182602293
It's part of the wardrobe display, hit Shift + i by default
Yeah, it's stupid that they put buy options on everything instead of a centralized shop, it's really confused people and it doesn't give you a full read on all the things you can/have to pay with Aurum. Really encourages impulse buys when you're not allowed to shop around and measure your opportunity cost.

Is it me or is this like an open beta
There's just so many features that seem halfway implemented or straight up missing

I hate that Blade needs you to take a separate slot for its gimmick

>>182539619
Tried that, distractions weren't triggering. Got booted out of server, logged back in, the distract things now work, and the guys are now not on top of them. Curious.

>next sprint upgrade wants me to goy out
Fuck

>>182620582
omg, people always find things to complain about
Just sell two items and get 200k Marks of Favor, trade that for aurum and there you go your free sprint. It's honestly so easy guys I have no idea what all these complaints are about.
Next you will be complaining about inventory space

>>182620793
>Just sell two items and get 200k Marks of Favor,
What are you selling to make that much? I make about 20k from the stuff I sell.

>>182620793
>2 items
>200k

You're deluded. Drops like that are rare. Not everyone is a patron running all of kingsmouth and savage coast each day.

>>182620793
free*

>>182621425
>>182621531
>>182621739
God such whiners, just buy items for 40k and sell them for 120k. Easy.
Also patrons have no advantage as far as making more aurum/marks of favor.

I've been thinking of giving TSW another go because I heard the story/lore is good. Is it worth giving it another shot now that it's F2P?

>>182622581
Jew blood doesn't run through my veins, anon.

>>182624125
I'd say so, since you don't need to purchase the later issues to get at the story content. The new gameplay and grind might not suit you, though, just be warned. Story content is not p2w, only worry about being meta optimized if you're going to go after Elites regularly.