/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

this game fucking sucks

Reminder to not get carried away over silly internet arguments or you might end up saying shit like
>Soul of the Rotten, who writhes deep within the Gutter.
>The Rotten embraces all, in the sanctuary for all things unwanted or tossed away.
>Use the special soul of the Rotten to acquire numerous souls, or to create something of great worth.
Is a reference to Dark Souls 1

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>>182408309
doggos

the MLGS in dks3 may not be the bloodborne version but it's still really fun.

>>182408436
This.
>game stutters when I invade for no reason
>everyone in the 4 player group destroys me as I run in place on their screen.

Was Dark Souls 2 that bad?

x for autistic thread maker guy

>>182408659
Yes.

>>182408659
It's not that bad, but it's not as good as the people who now suck its dick claim it to be

>>182408659
Lorewise it was okay aside from how poorly-implemented some of the DS1 references were.

I hated the gameplay though.

>>182408659
Horrible disconnected world design, little to no actual pvp because there's no red eye orb and cracked orbs were a pain in the ass to farm, uninteresting bosses, and soul memory. It was still a great game though.

>>182408659
If you see it as game among thousands of games it is in the upper middle, but if you regard it as a Souls game it's pretty bad.

>>182408846
>from how poorly-implemented some of the DS1 references were.

This meme again?

>>182408659
Not as bad as haters portray it, but not good either and it definetly doesnt deserve the praise I read in the thread sometimes which comes from the same braindead retard who claims it's better than 1 or Bloodborne

>>182409048
>HEY GUYS REMEMBER ORNSTEIN?
>NOW YOU GET TO FIGHT HIM AGAIN!
>EXCEPT HE'S SHIT AND DARK FOR SOME REASON INSTEAD OF LIGHTNING
>JUST DON'T ASK WHY HE'S HERE

>>182409189
Being better than 1 isn't a massive challenge considering that's the shortest game and only around a third of it is somewhat enjoyable or actually designed as a videogame

>>182409339
Pretty sure DeS is shorter

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What are the most aesthetic weapons?

>>182408659
what really bothered me is, how dirty 2 looked while BB almost looks like 3

>>182409189
>literally one person likes ds2
ok buddy

>>182409584
>while BB almost looks like 3
Sure you don't have that backward?

>>182409584
sotfs looks pretty crisp/clean imo. 3 reused a load of BB assets.

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>get the gwyn sword
>it's kinda shit compared to other greatswords
>can't even buff it with sunlight or moonlight blades

anyone have any podcasts they like to listen to they'd like to recommend? im runnin out of all the ones i listen to.
>>182408659
yes. fuck the 3 sentinals. they're the reason i quit dark souls 2.

>>182410456
Yeah, it's really disappointing. It's a shame because it's a really nice looking sword.

best straight swords to put buffs on with high faith?

>>182410550
RIPcast

>>182410651
Silver knight

>>182410651
Sunlight.

>>182409556
Onyx Blade, Creightons Axe, Crow Quills, Millwood Weapons, Ringed Knight SS, Irythill Rapier and SS, Ricards Rapier, Pontiff Knight Curved S., Carthus (Great) Curved S., Greatsword of Judgement and Profaned, Black Knights GS and Glaive, Aquamarine Dagger, Maidens Dagger, Dancers Sword, Greatmace, Demons Scar, Corvian GK, Astora UGS, Lothric SS and UGS, Gotthards, Lothrics Holy Sword, Hollowslayer, Wolnirs, Mornes Hammer, Executioners GS, Wolfknights GS, Moonlight GS and Crescent Sword, Follower Sabre, Storm Curved Sword, Exile CGS, Darkdrift, Bloodlust, Frayed Blade, Black Blade, Crystal Sage Rapier, Winged Knight Twinaxes, Black Knight GA, Demons Fist, Crow Talons, Saint Bident, Dragonslayer Swordspear, Gargoyle Spear, Artors Spear, Greatlance, Drang Twinspear, Lucerne, Pontiff Knight and Friedens Sythe, Witch Locks, Pharis/Short/Composite/Darkmoon/White Bitch Bow, Knights and Heavy Crossbow, White Tree Branch, Medicants Staff, Crystal Staff, Izalith Staff, Man Grub Staff, Archdeacons Greatstaff, Parting Flame, Yorhskas Chime, White Hair/Sunless/Saints Talisman and Saint tree Bellvine

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>>182408490
>>182408309
How come hosts never wonder why the fuck is a wolf randomly walking around? niggas can't catch a clue

>>182408659
No.

Soul memory was a mistake, adaptability was """ok""", just very odd. Weapon moveset variety was shallow, but powerstancing was 10/10.
Pyro being an optional scale was also nice, but SM fucked low level co-op and pvp. It's crystal clear they wanted to avoid twinks, and if DaS2 had the weapon reinforcement matchmaking like DaS3 instead of SM (and some other quality of life things like a proper red eye orb)

It also supported my favorite loadout of RH staff/chime+melee and LH rapier (poke/parry). More fluid than ds1 and completely unsupported in 3

>>182409625
Yes, you.

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I'll ask again my good compeers. When does From scan our save data? I heard it's Tuesday but my memory has been failing a lot recently.

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>>182409556

>>182411052
But I'm not him

>The Alva Set was worn by Alva the Wayfarer, as the name suggests
>Also worn by some happy chap named Bradley who spends his time throwing around miracles
Did Bradley just find it and decide to wear it, or was it a standard-issue armor set that was popularized by Alva's journeys?

>>182409791
>crisp/clean
sure we played the same game?
the way enemies look and how some parts of the graphics are just .jpegs was pretty bad imo
somebody post the pillars from 2 that were just photos of furniture

>>182411303
Bradley like most people figured that Alvas looks really fucking good and decided to wear it

>>182411384
I always knew Bradley was a smart man.
Even if he fell into the water while doing the Duel Bow one time I summoned him. I don't have the footage on me, I really need to post it.

>>182411343
Different anon and I agree with DS2 looking worse, but being able to straight up see what is in a texture is explicitly what clean means.

>>182410852
Was it autism?

Why are clubs and battle axes so horrid?

Do paired weapons get the 2H STR bonus?

>>182412485
No.

>>182408659
It wasn't good but it was unique and ambitious.

DS3 was neither, and that's why people like DS2 more now.

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Anybody got those sweet PARTAKE memes?

ok so i sent grierat to irithyll. patches isnt going anywhere. do i need to reload firelink shrine to talk tell patches to save him?

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>>182412781

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Witcher is a pretty meh franchise combat wise

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Is he a Knight Slayer named "Tsorig"
or is he a Knight named "Slayer Tsorig"?

>>182413543
The former, given the Knight Slayer's Ring

>>182413497
>Ciri
>not using a straight sword
>Parrying Dagger

meh

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>>182409556
not this
>Dragonslayer clone looks like ass
fuck you Miyazaki
>>182410456
>Can't even set it on fire
Ridiculous, shit like that is why WA were a good addition

>>182413845
WA's are good, but pretty useless in PvE. You gonna get fucked by any boss if you try fancy stuff. But in PvP they are good, some even OP.

>>182414440
Not all of them are too bad in PvE. I remember beating Abyss Watchers for the first time with a well-timed Longsword Stance R2.

what's the usual duel pvp cap? 120-125

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>>182414440
Not gonna lie and say every WA is good on PVE but they have their uses. Like stomp or stance into finishing or staggering bosses before getting you get killed. You just have to get creative.

>>182414868
That's it yeah.

>>182408659
unironically better than 3.

the quality of the souls games goes hand in hand with their numbering, from best to worst.

3 is dogshit, which makes 2 look better by comparison

>>182415221
DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2

Don't even bother responding.

>>182415691
Even you would have to admit that the gestures in 2 were the best

>>182415942
Not as long as it lacks Look Skyward and Well What Is It.

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>>182415942
The gestures in DaS1 were best. BB are a close second.

>>182416093
This guy gets it.

>>182416093
>Righty-Ho
>This One's Me
>The superior form of Welcome
>Mock
>No Way
Look Skyward and Well What Is It were good gestures, along with Shrug, but 2 had some great ones, you can't deny that.

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>sunlight blade + that ring that boosts miracles
>sunlight straight sword
>kill smoug in a single 2hand combo

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>>182416286
>tfw no Pumped Up

it hurts

>>182412685
>being this deluded that you try to argument like this now
haha

Winged spear worth investing on?

>>182408659
Dark Souls 2 is at least aesthetically interesting, which varied zones, some of which look very nice. The reason it isn't very fun is because none of the enemies are fun to fight.

Dark Souls 3 is really samey and visually uninteresting. It honestly makes me kind of bored.

Neither are anywhere close to as good as Dark Souls 1 or Demons Souls.

>>182414769
Watchers? Meh. They are stunlocked and killed in less than 30 seconds for both phases. Try your "well-timed stance" on Dragonslayer armor, Champ gundyr or Princes.

>>182417615
I mean, it has poise, so as long as you have the health to survive the trade it can still work.

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Is this thing trash? I'm starting to think it's trash.

>>182417534
Investing what on?
It's not bad, but there's nothing noteworthy about it.

>>182417954
It's pretty decent.

>>182418040
For a dex build
forgot to type that

>>182417954
It's not great, but I believe it's the only non-dagger with quickstep and gets some pretty decent AR.
Also has extremely low requirements and weight.

>>182418173
It's probably the best spear in terms of damage on a high dex build.
LKLS is a bit better, but has a higher STR requirement and Weight.

>>182418594
>LKLS is a bit better, but has a higher STR requirement and Weight.
Isn't it also a Pike?

>>182418076
Then how are you supposed to use it? Seems like it can't touch anyone with that piss-poor reach since it's apparently an axe and not a dagger.

>>182418929
You use its quickstep to get in close to people, tap R1 for a hitconfirm, Quickstep cancel it if they trade with you.

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>get backstabbed
>roll past elaborate wake up attack and counter backstab

>>182409556
Astora GS is the prettiest weapon.

I'm going through Dark Souls 1 for the first time and I had a dumbass moment and a regret
the dumbass moment was not realizing you could go through the door in the Asylum Demon fight, although I did check it multiple times, I'm not sure what made it open but taking a guess I'd say either it starts open and it closed by itself before I looked at it, or the boss's attack opened it (it actually opened when I was trying to see if getting it to smash all the pillars does anything, never quite got all of them down)
that wouldn't be so bad but I spent hours on that fight and came back to it several times, not long before I found the door open I decided burying my face in his ass wasn't too cheap because he could still turn around and it would take fucking forever to actually whittle down all his health
the regret was a little after that, I talked to the knight guy in the sunbeam and listened and took what he wanted to give me, and I figured since he was dying and he was supposed to be on his last life, I would mercy kill him
apparently he didn't think it was merciful ;_;
did I miss out on anything by killing him?

>>182408659
Dark Souls 2 is... a mess. Development was a mess. It's a mess to the point where Dark Souls 3 effectively retcons it despite people arguing it doesn't. Because Dark Souls 2 happens in Lordran, built over and renamed via Troy. It happens amidst the "time is convoluted" bullshit. You start out at some point in time in the intro and then you go through a time portal in the ruins of Lordran/Drangleic/Othernames back to the period where Dark Souls 2 takes place.

The game sets forward a lot of interesting ideas it never develops, and a lot of things that make absolutely no fucking sense. Like turning Seath into a generic evil wizard and then a lich. Seath was all about crystal dragon shit. Not about making manscorpions and lionmen. And then even the things they set up they sabotage via confusing design and contradiction.

>tfw no Fume Sword in DaS3 with DaS2-like holding and attacking animations and Shield Splitter as it's WA
It'd pair pretty great with the other one that did make it in too

>>182419654
You only get the Asylum Demon's weapon from killing him right away and it isn't a good one anyway, you can get in NG+ so don't worry about it.

>>182419716
I read about that, I was asking about the dude in the knight armor (although the same source said he only gives you different stuff if you beat the boss, not later)

>>182419674
Like, if you go by what the game suggests, Seath is literally a lich. Seath possessed the Duke Of Tseldora and had him excavate the Crystal Caves with the intent of possessing the captured dragon. But then I guess the Duke's body wore out or Seath developed a spider fetish and so Duke's Dear Freja is literally Seath.

Go listen to Seath's theme and then Duke's Dear Freja.


Seath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k95b29ip4HU

Freja: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn8VM9c6RcM

>>182419782
Oh that's doesn't matter no matter what you do there.

Holy fuck, this guardbeast on the bridge to Irithyll is messing with me bad
>each bite can take anywhere from 1/3 to 3/4 of my health
>animation shows it biting away from my character
>character gets hit anyway

>>182420479
You don't have to fight him there. If you beat the Deacons you can just run through the forcefield.

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>get hit once
>die
When is this thing getting nerfed?

>>182420479
Use fire or bleed.

And don't listen to >>182420479, you're being rused in more ways than one.

>>182420813
It's almost certainly not getting hit with a nerf, we'll just need to find a way around it. Alternatively, hope and pray you never fight someone with this thing, but that's about as likely as Lucy saying he's been pulling a long con and actually loves 2 above all the other games.

>>182420813
Whenever Dark Souls 3 gets another patch. Kill me.

>invade a world
>host has 2 other summons with him
>manage to kill both of them through the host using 3 seeds
>2 more darkmoons come in to help him

They really wanted to make sure invaders had a bad time, didn't they?

>>182420813
This wouldn't even be an issue if we still had DaS1-style poise.

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>>182421172
>Invading as a Purp
>As usual, get match with a full group
>Almost kill the host but get smashed with ultraweapons just before I finish
>Queue up another invasion
>it's one of the phantoms from the previous invasion
>Bleed his ass dry

JUSTICE

Why does dragon form suck so much in ds3?

Did they almost make a covenant and then forget about it?

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Hey, i'm trying to do an sl120 jack-of-all-trades character since i discovered crystal chime as a talisman-catalyst hybrid, and this is what i came up with.
With my overleveled character at 30int-20faith i still did reasonable chip damage from the few potshots i could take (nothing like the panic of reds when they run to mobs and get pelted with magic, or the mobs from next to them dying in 2 casts), so if i must, i can lower int+faith to 25 (to say, raise the main stat to 60), but not below that.

I have a few main questions though:
-What weapons would go well with this? (either str or dex though i prefer bigger weapons)
-what is the usual "minimum" or average endurance worth aiming for? (like 27vig or 24 att)
-when you respec, can you change your starting class?

>>182422884
Your build is complete shit. There's so many things wrong with it that it's easier to just restart from scratch than to try to fix it.

>Dark souls 3 is the best looking game in the series
>also the shittiest one
why did it have to be this way
just give me dark souls 1 with dark souls 3 graphics

Carthus Rouge was the game's golden era peak.

>>182423101
nigga he an just respec

>>182422884
>24 Vigor

To answer your questions all the Demon weapons, Dark infused stuff, and Heavy weapons buffed with Carthus Flame Arc.

30 is ideal for most weapons especially if you're using ultras.

No you cannot.

>>182423316
>Dex/Luck Hollow-infused Rouge-buffed CCS wielders everywhere
How about not.

>>182422884
Too squishy even for a duel. you gonna get raped. Often.

>>182423316
>Dark Souls 3
>any golden era at all
made me laugh

>>182423453
>>182423640

Game had the most activity during that time. Fastest threads, most memes. It was the peak.

>>182422884
You'll die in one hit and don't have the damage to make up for it.

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I cant believe I thought ds3 was going to get better. I was tricked by the stunning visuals and completely meme'd myself into thinking it would be the best of the series. Now its far too late to refund it. I guess it's time to replay scholar of the first shekel.

>>182423316
Personally for me it was the TRC patch that buffed a whole bunch of things and led to the biggest amount of build diversity I've seen in the game yet. From could easily make 3s balance the best in the series with another patch of similar content level but I doubt it'll happen at this point.

>>182423929
>>182423316
>>182423640
>>182423740
Dark Souls 2 was a mistake, and Dark Souls 3 was a small piece of duct tape trying to fix up that mistake, needless to say it failed spectacularly.

People who are new to the Souls community will never understand how special Demon's Souls and Dark Souls was back in the day. It was the golden age of Souls community, it was all love, no hate.

Funny thing is, back then most Souls fans don't even know who Miyazaki is, it was the disappointment of Dark Souls 2 that make Miyazaki famous.

There's a reason why people got so incredibly hyped about Project Beast (Bloodborne) back in 2014. Not because they loved DS2 and want more, but because they know Miyazaki is back and they know how great Demon's Souls and Dark Souls was.

>>182423740
In my experience with other generals, fast threads really just means more shitposting. Slower threads tend to have a higher average post quality.

>>182422884

>>182423101
i have zero idea what is needed for pvp, or what the meta is, and this was starting from scratch, so doing it again would be no help without a few pointers on whats wrong (apart from the obvious drawback of "jack of all trades, master of none"), so a few pointer would be nice.

The main thing i can think of is the armor/equip load problem incl. havels ring, but what i have there is just an aproximation, and as far as i heard you need at least 30 poise, which might be easier achieved with wolf ring than havel+armor, but i dont know.

also, so 40 vigor is basicaly mandatory?

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>>182423929
Do a Bone Fist run like I did. And/Or Vanquisher's Seal for extra punching power

>>182424173
>so 40 vigor is basicaly mandatory?
At minimum

>>182424173
More like 39 though you can go a little less if you're starved for points. The poise you 'need' depends on the weapon you're using, if you're using something like a straight sword you don't need any so long as you're wearing alright armor.

>>182424173
You'l need more than 40 vig only you are going heavily into HP through FAP ring and HP ring. Othervise there is too little profit per point.

>>182424173

Basically, it really depends on what you want when you say "Jack of all Trades"

Are you looking to be good at both spells and melee? Easy to do, you go 12(14)/18/40/40 and take a Lothric Knight Sword, make it dark infused and you now have a very high tier melee weapon. Go 14 if you want to 1-hand the Onyx Blade, which is a greatsword made specifically for 40/40 INT FAI builds

Are you looking to be able to start fighting from range and then take the fight to them in melee, able to harass and then do solid damage? Go 40/40 STR/DEX and use a Composite Bow with a Claymore in your offhand

Looking to heal, damage from range and dominate in melee? Go 28 STR, 16 DEX and 60 FAI, with an optional 10 in INT. Get 3 spell slots (18 ATT) And have a heal (Med Heal or Projected, Med is better healing at a lower cost but Projected has a massive range), Lightning Bow (Low cost ranged miracle) and a weapon buff (Darkmoon Blade, Lightning Blade, Dark Blade if you use the Crucifix) then 2-hand your favourite STR weapon (Notable choices are a Heavy Splitleaf Greatsword, Heavy Saint Bident, Crucifix of the Mad King which requires 10 INT, Heavy Great Club, Heavy Winged Knight Twin Axes, Heavy Millwood Battle Axe. The list goes on)

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>Fighting my way to Rank 3 in Brotherhood of Blood arena
>BEGIN DUEL WITH KenGamer03
>serious mcdonalds-tier internet, lagging all over the arena
>runs away to heal SEVEN FUCKIN TIMES
>This One's Me
>This One's Me
>This One's Me
>This One's Me
>Shrug

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Dark Souls 3 is a damn good game. Y'all need to quit talking shit and learn how to appreciate it more.

Washing Pole +10 should not be infused, correct? I'm currently at 40 STR / 40 DEX .

Dark Souls 3 has really great enemy variety.

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>>182422884
Thanks for the info guys, so it seems i started in the entirely wrong direction, and should just go faith/int all the way.

>>182425985
No you definitely want to infuse it with Sharp or Refined. 2kat is the only infuseable katana that works best uninfused at 40/40.

>>182426135
In PvE faith/int devastates anything. In PvP you should be an asian to barely hit anyone with spells, so better try pure melee build.

>>182425627
>Dark Souls 3 made Sunlight Blade look like shit
Worst game in the series

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Anyone want to help me get a low level kill on dancer? I need to get through him so I can cheese that senile dragon. I'm just a lowly sorc so there's noway I've have any chance of defeating him on my own with my measily 20 int. PC

>>182426993
>him

So how does 1handing/2handing works?

-if you have the stats the weapon lists as requirement, you can 1/2 hand it right? Is there a difference other than AR (or even that) between 1/2handing in such a case?
-If you dont have the stats, what are the penalties? i keep hearing that you need the stats to either 1 or 2 hand it (dont rember which)
-are said penalites a sharp cutoff, or they ramp down the closer you are to the requirements?
-are the above rules apply equally to all weapons, or there are differences (like for example: straight swords are meant for 1 handing and ultras for 2 handing so the former gets bonuses to 2handnig and the latter gets penalties for 1handing?)

>>182417615
Try fighting them without summons for once, queerbasket. I've guardbroken the DSA with stance r1 and you can use stance r2 to immediately get back in after it does the aoe wind attack
>>182417954
Nah, it's pretty good. I invaded once at pontiff's and someone one shot me with it. Even made crystals grow out of me. He must've had a hell of a build

Does DS1 hold up?

>>182427408
Two-handing only affects your effective STR. When two-handing, you effectively have 50% more STR than you really do. That applies to both STR scaling and minimum STR requirements.

However, each of a weapon's attacks has its own separate damage modifier value, which is how you get weapons with low or no STR scaling that do more damage when two-handing than when one-handing. But as far as I know, nobody has complied a list of these values.

>>182427668
no

>>182427668
Yes.

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>>182427668
I'm playing it blind right now. I'm having fun.

>>182427408
For 3? 2handing gives you 150% effective str for scaling/req fulfillment purposes. The moveset also changes and 2 handing ultras makes them unparriable and gives some weapons poise on some attacks
Penalties are less damage, more stamina usage, bounce off more things than you normally would
Sharp
Kind of, depends on the weapon.

>>182426982
but it's not even sunlight blade
in the game files there's the actual sunlight blade and it looks pretty much like the DS1 one

So did Aldrich really slam that tight little b0ipuci?

>>182428768
He slammed that Darkmoon twink down his gullet

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>>182427748
>>182428030
thanks m8s

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>>182427974
Even though I'm playing this blind I have one question.

Will I find a merchant that I can sell things to?
I have a shitload of dupes and I need souls.

>>182429013
Eventually you will be able to sell items for souls, yes.

>>182429013
You can find a merchant that you can feed things too.

>>182429013
retarded dweeb poster kys
>what is google

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>>182429092
i actually prefer to keep the general alive even with simple questions

>>182429013
HHHHHRRRUUAAAAAAAGGGGHHH

>>182426993
pl0x

>>182429734

m8 I solo'd her at like level 26. just respec, pump health, go get some more estus if you're desperate and throw yourself at her until you can beat her blindfolded. All of her attacks have a pattern and an idea way to dodge, and she literally fights in time with her music like all the other bosses

>>182410986
>It also supported my favorite loadout of RH staff/chime+melee and LH rapier (poke/parry). More fluid than ds1 and completely unsupported in 3

why is it unsupported in 3?
do rapiers in 3 not allow for that?

>>182429879
mate i'm lvl 10 with barely enough str/dex to wield a scimitar and 9 vigor I need to get through her to get to seith so I can make a MGS. If this wasn't a pure sorcerer build then yeah I could do her alone but right now its way harder than it should be.

is it worth lowering faith/int to 37/37 so one can use dark/chaos lothric GS?
It still has ~100 AR more than 40/40 buffed onyx blade, and square between the two sits exile GS (with 37/37)

>>182430206
AR doesn't really mean jack shit if you like its moveset then sure go ahead

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Anyone have any more armor, weapons or spells which are wind related?

>using Emit Force unironically
I know, i know

>>182430206
You're splitting damage three ways by infusing LKGS to anything but Lightning or Blessed, that makes it just as ineffective as buffed Onyx in that regard.

Better off infusing an Astora, it actually takes well to elemental infusions for some reason.

>>182430664
Splitleaf.

What's the best level/weapon range to be doing Aldrich runs?

>>182431017
50-120

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>>182426993
If you can't kill the dancer, you won't kill oceiros either. At this point, you might as well ask for a non-upgraded mlgs. That said, this is your best friend. Farm for the storyteller's staff and gas the shit out of the deacons

>>182431276

Oh, low as 50? Nice, would a VIG build with raw weapons still be effective at that level or would I need to start actually, you know, getting my damage stats upped? I just need 10 dregs for the Great Deep Soul so I can level through and get my caster started proper

>>182431017
55 +6 in my experience.

Meta SL also work, although you have a higher chance to encounter ganksquads.>>182431017

>>182431363
Vig with raw weapons is alright but even at 50 you can get a lot of Vig and a damage stat up to decent levels with about 20 END, STR up to 26 at least grants you a lot of damage options on its own.

>>182431439

Ah, see, I'm a Pyro so I'm concerned that the stat layout would prevent me from managing that. Although I'll do the working out. Cheers man

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>>182431509
I got you anon. The spell slot is for Black Flame obviously.

These fucking Crow fuckers are raping my ass, they do so much damage

>>182431687

Ooo, I like it, and I managed to clear basically the whole game solo up to Soul of Cinder so I already have the FaP +3 since I got exceedingly lucky with the Earthen Peak angels

Just gotta get that Onyx Blade, shouldn't be too trying, Vilhelm would take reasonable damage from +4 raw weapons right?

>>182431883
Rapport.

>>182431889
Yes, you can also just cheese Vilhelm by pushing him off the ledge outside his room. He's not that hard though even if you don't. Onyx is a really good weapon for low level stuff though since it's WA buff is non-scaling so you can always add an extra 100+ fire AR to its AR on that build.

Hey /dsg/. I just completed NG+ in DS3:TFFE.

Any good ideas for a quality weapon to use on my NG++ playthrough? I used Wolf Knight Greatsword on my first playthrough and Gael's Greatsword on my second.

>>182431959

Nah, I got through the game playing fair and honest, I'll not start cheesing now. If I can beat all the non optional bosses up to SoC and the chain of bosses leading up to The Champ, then he'll be easy

That sounds fantastic though man, thank you so much

>>182432008
BKGS. Or BKS if you're boring and don't want to divcerge from GS's

How to have fun in DaS2:
>CE yourself a Fume Straight Sword, Defender's Shield, a 99 stack of Repair Powder, a 99 stack of each type of Lifegem, and a few soul items to get the minimum levels to use the sword and shield effectively
>Play through the rest of the game as normal

>>182431916
Their attacks are fucking instantaneous though, it doesn't even register before i get stun-locked

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These two take care of anything smaller than a halberd.

What weapon is the bane of big weapons?

>>182432395

The humble dagger

>>182432427

Alternatively, added onto this, you could use a spear. Long ones can outrange the larger weapons and hit faster, meaning you can consistently chip away, and it'd fit a footsoldier/centurion/gladiator theme a bit better I'd wager

>>182432395
Anything with Perseverance, Daggers, great hammers to other ultras, halberds, katanas, straight swords, curved swords, most of the weapons in the game really.

DS1 seriously has the most incredible metal textures in the series.

As well as the hard leather on the packs that hold your crossbow bolts.

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>>182432362
>How to have fun in DaS2:
>>Cheat

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Goddamn I love the executioner sword, but its damage is absolute shit. Is there no way to make this thing hit harder?

>>182433282
use it long enough and you'll wear it down and it'll turn into the best greatsword in the whole game

Am I overleveled if i'm level 35 in Blighttown?

>>182433282
Yes, use it's straight upgrade Gael's Greatsword.

>>182433473
Nah, 40 at Queelag is typical.

>>182433473
Queelag is a damage sponge so you're gonna need those,if not more

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Why did DS3 not take the DS2 route with NG pluses where the bosses, enemies and items change along with it being "harder".
There's legit no reason to do anything but NG unless you want "added challenge" in DS3.
It makes me legit sad

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>>182430664
I tried to have the 4 elements in each build, but there isn't anything that represents water

>>182434149
Because just dropping extra enemies in a boss room doesn't make it better.

>>182434183
how painful would vomitting a boulder be?

>>182434228
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/New+Game+Plus
vs
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/New+Game+Plus

the list is non-existant in DS3. If you think it's only extra things with the boss you're sucking the wrong cock

>>182434360
>fextra

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>>182434428
>no argument

>>182434183

Crystal Hail, Most of the Deep spells since the Deep in lore is meant to be some kind of dark sea, caressing tears to give you s utility spell

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can i get a quick rundown on dark magic and infusing over chaos?
both scale with both int and faith, but is one better than the other?

In DS3 do I need to get the DLC miracles / sorceries for the trophies or just the base game ones?

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>>182434497
He's right though.

>>182434621
The infusion will always have the exact same damage and scaling except one is fire and the other gives dark. Generally dark is better for pvp because less people have dark resistance from faith and most armors don't have good dark resist but keep a chaos weapon anyway for crits and the odd person with high faith. Dark magic meanwhile is just a few specific spells that scale better with certain catalysts on a 40/40 INT/FAI setups like the Soul Dregs spells, pyromancies already scale best off that anyway so the 'dark' pyromancies aren't special in that regard.

>>182434646
Just the base game ones, same as the other games.

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>>182434775
>meme page some retard wrote
cool argument

>explored all of the Depths
>reached Valley of Drakes and got the New Londo key
>still haven't one into Blighttown

I basically have access to both the front and back entrance of this area.
Which way would be better, the entrance from the Depths or the entrance from Drake Valley?

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>>182434925
It's to point out they have no quality control.

>>182434149
>Why did DS3 not take the DS2 route with NG pluses where the bosses, enemies and items change

DS2 was the only game to really try to switch the game up for NG+ .
What annoys me though that NG+ specific content like that was alluded to in interviews but they either lied or went back on their plans.

>>182434228
Some levels got extra Black Phantom NPCs and generally some situations in the levels became more interesting. Also, Freja's extra appearance in NG+ was neat.

>>182434497
Fextra is crap because they have outdated information and a lot of their articles have misinformation in them.

>>182434925
It proves that Fextra is not a reliable source of information and should not be cited as an authority.

>>182434183
Most sorceries, with crystal versions being ice
>>182434621
Str governs fire defense, fai governs dark defense. Since most people gave more str than fai, dark is generally better. But chaos dagger does way more crit damage than dark dagger for some reason. Haven't tested for other weapons doing that

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>>182435068
>>182434775

>>182435081
>Fextra is crap because they have outdated information and a lot of their articles have misinformation in them.
what to use then? Is the wikidot ok? Had to use fextra before because there was no wikidot or it had no information at all

>>182435126
>>182435068
>some sources are inaccurate therefore completely unusable
yea nah. just change it if it's wrong or report it to someone who cares.

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>>182408659
>Dark Souls 2 that bad?

Well, you can hear what EpicNameBro has to say on the subject of Dark Souls 2 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2642mAJQm0Y

>>182435361
All the wikis for DS3 seem terrible imho.
Dark Souls 1 / Demon's Souls wikidot is like the best out there.

Just went through the bloody fly-infested area, now im back at the Ariandel chapel.
Kinda lost on what im supposed to do now.

>>182435850
There'd a lever in the fly-infested area. It's a different kind of lever, it's like an x-shaped lever that is not found anywhere else in the game. You need to get into the lower level of the fly infested area.

>>182435850
You missed a lever in the fly pit.

>>182435990
>>182436000
I did explore the lower area, but i must have missed it, thanks anons

>>182434428
>ad hominem

>>182436049
You shouldn't parrot terms you don't understand.

>>182435850
you missed an illusory wall to an EPIC FUCKING REFERENCE
ALSO EMBER UP

FUCK THAT PLACE WAS GOOD

>>182436039
There's also another illusory wall in the fly pit that leads to some Pyromancy goodies

>>182436228
Goodies aren't good. Glove doesn't give blue estus, and turret spell is mediocre.

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>there are people in this general who play without a covenant equipped
at least slap on the Way of Blue in the off chance you get invaded

>>182436320
>summoning cops who won't help you
why.jpg

>>182436320
I don't wanna give the invader free estus

>>182436313
>nag nag nag
you people can't be pleased with anything

Anyone have that autistic screeching edit where Pontiff has Flandre Scarlet's wings and is saying something like "let's give anor londo back to men" and Aldritch is autistically moaning?

>>182436159
>dismissing the argument by trying to discredit the source of info is not ad hominem
Lol ok. The point was ds2's ng+ changes trumping ds3's. Meanwhile in 1
>can be gravelorded
>access to Gwyn's equipment
LMAO

>>182436313
No one cares about the estus from the Parting Flame.

>>182436409
I didn't dismiss the "argument." I simply pointed out the cited source is unreliable and waited.

>>182436409
Yeah, the NG+ stuff is definitely what DS2 does the best out of the series.

>>182436214
Reference to what?

>>182436503
not an argument
(You)

>>182436546
I think it's supposed to be Priscilla's boss arena from 1.

>>182436503
Then you are very easily distracted

What is the lore implication behind there being more enemies in New Game+

>>182436879
Ng+ is not canon

>>182408659
In terms of level design and story presentation, it can obviously never match the original, but that was a ludicrous expectation to begin with. The series wasn't conceived for it to be a trilogy. Or have more games than the original. If a lot of lore feels tucked on, it's because it is. Plus its nightmare development cycle, as well as dealing with console limitations since it was released on the last gen, caused a fuck ton of problems. Enemy placement being an obvious one since the game was no longer pitch black and requiring you to use a torch, so they just threw more enemies at you late in development.

Now as far as gameplay goes, DS2 is great. It fixed and rebalanced a lot of the original's flaws, had incredible replayability due to the amount of different builds that were viable, advanced the concept of NG+ and tried a lot of different ideas(you know as a new game should do). Of course not every single thing they tried worked out. The agility stat was weird as fuck and Adaptability needed a lot of work, but overall it was a big step forward. Also, it has the best PvP in the series to date, if you're mostly into that.

It wasn't the masterpiece of level design and story presentation that the original was, but it was a fantastic game in its own right. It did some things wrong and a lot of things right. SotFS is definitely worth a buy.

Then came the garbage that was DS3, and instead of building of DS2's positives and improve on its flaws, it just discards everything like a brainless retard and proceeds to fill the gaps with absolute trash rolling and estus mechanics, shitty pandering to the fanboys of DS1, some of the worst netcode I have ever seen, and identity crisis gameplay. It didn't know if it wanted to be a Souls game or a Bloodborne spin-off. It's FromSoft playing it safe and as a result they serve a piss poor product, even when compared to the ambitious black sheep, as it's treated by the fans, DS2.

>>182437084
>Now as far as gameplay goes, DS2 is great.
HAHAHA.

>>182437180
Fuck, I have no retort to that. I concede.

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>>182437180
>Literally the best souls-like combat next to BB and Nioh
>Hahaha
Tripfags are literally the worst pieces of human trash

>>182437298
BB and Nioh are both fast paced. DaS2 is sluggish and weightless; it generally just feels like you are fighting under water.

>>182408659
Really depends on what you value the most in these games. I love their atmosphere and designs for example, and DaS 2 failed completely in those fields. There are literally like two good looking areas, and the rest isn't just mediocre, it's simply shit.

Is there any reason why Dragon armour is so weak to the Wolf Knight's Greatsword?
I seemed to take him down very, very quickly with it

hand it over

>>182437637
Im not giving you your katana Shiva fuck off

>>182437298
>Literally the best souls-like combat next to BB and Nioh
Inaccurate hitboxes, bad animations and no weight behind attacks.
I mean good for you that you're able to enjoy it, I wish I would, but I just can't see how.

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>>182437084
Your post was pretty great until you started your mindless ranting about DS3. I fucking loathe DS2 and DS3 babs who continually just shit all over each other.

is irithyll straight sword worth using compared to a fire rapier?

damage is worse withe the ISS

is frost worth using it for?

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>>182437627
It's supposed to deal extra damage to abyss-things right? If the pilgrims butterflies from Lothric are related to the angels risen from dead pilgrims, than maybe it did get infected with the abyss somehow, seing how the pilgrims come from Londor - land of the hollows worshipping Kaathe, supposedly.

>>182437683
Yeah, I felt like it was stupid of me to write the last part but fuck me I couldn't help myself. I know it makes it sound like fanboy crap but I can't bring myself to get over how disappointed I felt with DS3.

>>182437743
Fire rapier would have split damage, so even if it deals, let's say 100 physical and 100 fire damage, it would probably still hit less than a sword with 180 physical.
Frost was buffed at some point, so it can actually be somewhat viable now, but really it's all down to preference, just pick the weapon you like more, looks better or you have more fun with.

>>182437084
Ds2's story was screwed from the get go, the moment it HAD to be dark souls 2 (a sequel) instead of giant or golem souls (a spiritual successor). There was no story to expand upon at that point and making a coherent story would only fuck up the preexisting one or making it completely detached to the point where they're not even connected at all (ie not be dark souls 2). So they had to stick with "what if" and "or perhaps" antics.
Personally, I don't like ds2 gameplay but I appreciate how they tried to make things a bit more realistic. It seems to be either a total hit or a total miss, depending on the person.
>ds3 is garbage
You lost me. Fuck you
>direct sequel heavily references the prequel
Woah, fucking pandering

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Why are there no guns/Machineguns in DS2 if it takes place thousand or so years after DS1

I've been waiting for a Steam sale on DaS 1 for months now, is there a way to tell when it will happen? Or does it happen completely randomly?

>>182437938
Well Bloodborne has machineguns :) .

>>182437938
There's magic. Technology isn't something that spontaneously occurs, it arises from an effort to fulfill certain needs.

are there any rewards to Yuria's questline outside of making it possible to grab one of the possible endings? love free levels but I love not turning into a human raisin more, so I'd much rather avoid or reverse the hollowing if possible

>>182437743
Irithyll SS is a quality weapon and a fire Rapier is a non-scaling one, they're meant for different things but Irithyll SS would generally better because it has decent AR, is a straight sword and Frost is good on a few bosses like Armor and Gael.

>>182437938
Because the world resets every now and again, before anything past swords and shields gets made everyone goes and gets fucked by hollows and then a new civilization has to start from scratch

>DS1
>have to grind souls to get rings
>to cure curse
>to do anything

>DS3
>rings given out for free
>can sell anything instantly
>somehow still stays fun

I really love how DS3 basically fixed everything that needed fixing from DS1
Curse being one of the biggest improvements,

>>182438193
Yuria has and sells some cool stuff. I usually just get the free levels from Yoel so that Yuria appears, then you can kill her for her ashes and weapon, then heal the dark sigil.
Although now that I think about it you wouldn't be able to get chameleon if you do all this before irythill.

>>182438334
>have to grind souls to get rings
What do you mean?

Also curse is basically pointless in DaS 3, I don't think I've ever been cursed in that game. Well, it's not like halfing you lifebar would be a good idea when you can just teleport to wherever from the get go.

>>182438441
10k for bloodbite and poisonbite rings
3k for purging stones
repairing weapons and armor builds up 2k every new bonfire or more

>>182438441
DS3 already decreases a chunk of player's health on death so curse is super pointless especially since it's mostly used for hackers instagibbing players with it.

>>182438531
With how ridiculously overpowered ROFAP and DWGR or Havel were is DaS 1, there wasn't much variety in the rings anyway desu. Glad that changed in DaS 3.

>>182438531
DS3 should've kept the item durability system like it was in DS1 / DeS / Bloodborne or gotten rid of it altogether. Now it's completely useless and only acts like a retard trap for people investing in repair powder and again, the only way for them to break is for a hacker to break your gear.

But I guess that's what happens when you pander to casuals with completely rethinking your systems.

>>182438531
>2k
What the actual fuck were you doing? The only thing to even come close to that is the crystal brass set, everything else takes like 20-30 souls to fix

>>182438193
Access to the best early game weapon, the "notlooklikeassinotherworlds" ring, some good edge fashion
>>182438346
The pilgrim appear anyway, learned that the hard way
>>182438441
Probably means the bellowing dcrest
>>182438334
They were a bit overzealous with the fixing. You can slowly walk out of a backstab for fuck's sake

Which is the most Attrition based version of Dark souls? I reckon it's 3

>>182438702
The hilarious thing is we even had pre-release interviews where big M went "Well DS1 durability didn't really work because weapons never broke and DS2 durability was too low and things broke too quick. I think we hit a good balance with 3" but all they did was take the DS2 system, remove extra durability consuming attacks and gave everything enough durability to beat any given area 5 times over before it even started becoming an issue.

>>182438775
2 if you ignore lifegems
1 if your new and don't know about how easy it is to upgrade your flask and kindling
3 normally

>>182438775
I think 3 has a lot of flasks, especially if you don't use FP, as well as a lot of bonfires.
2 has lifegems which obviously makes it the easiest attrition-wise
I'd say DaS 1 before you find the rite of kindling. 20 estus is just ridiculous.

>>182438702
MLGS can break if you use charged r2 a lot, that's pretty much it.

Is there any way to run and immediately do the r1 instead of the running r1 without wasting time slowing down?

>>182438919
Yep, the pre-release interview was full of shit like they were saying that they were planning to changes in the game world for NG+ like DS2 but nope.

I think the best they could've done for the durability is give all equipment segmented health bars (after something degrades up to a point it has to be repaired at a smith and resting at the bonfire / using a powder no longer repairs it) or just went straight to the BB system.

>>182439095
it's the only weapon I had to use the gold dust on, which inevitable made me realize the animation was like the salt guy meme

>>182439014
Dark Souls 3 has WAY TOO MANY BONFIRES in many levels for there to be any significant "attrition".

>>182438775
The only Dark Souls game where rationing heals is really a thing is Dark Souls 1.

And Bloodborne but that's not a Souls game.

>>182438193
If you get the free levels and then murder Yuria, you can pretty much get everything the questline gives you aside from the Usurp ending.

You even get access to her gear earlier than normal.

What parts of each game would you take to create the best dark souls?

DaS 1:
>interconnected, non-linear world
>no fast travel for a portion of the game
>covenants

DaS 2:
>changes between NGs
>poise
>equipment load

DaS 3:
>non-upgradable armours
>weapon arts
>level and boss desgins

>>182439282
Bonfires stopped making sense after DS1
In DS2 in the black gultch there is a bonfire right next to another bonfire thats right next to the boss
Also in DS2 theres shit places like Iron Passage or the way to the Chariot fight where there is only 1 bonfire and it takes 10 minutes to get to the boss from there

>>182439282
But in bb you can just farm bloodvials, can you not? At least in ds1 humanities were somewhat rare

>>182439282
I have a theory that DaS 3 was innitially designed without the bonfires in boss arenas in mind.
Most of the bonfires that are pointless are rendered so because of the boss bonfires.

>>182439504
3's boss design was really fucking meh, most of it was delayed hits to catch early rolls or just "mash roll to phase through this 720 spin"

>>182439564
please provide examples, i can't think of them other than Dragonslayer

>>182439504
DeS: World Tendency and general atmosphere
DaS1: Everything not mentioned elsewhere, including poise
DaS2: lol, no.
DaS3: guard crushes and backstabs
BB: Heal parries, speed, chalices, multi-form weapons

>>182439504
>DaS 3:
>non-upgradable armours
I both like and hate this
On one hand,no need to waste titanite
On another,they're just kinda there now

>nothing from DS2
>except for the things 3 kept
The mental gymnastics needed for this kind of logic never fail to produce a chuckle.

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>tfw Blackflame Friede
How, i cannot do this with a slow weapon

>>182439751
DaS2 did them but in a way that sucked. DaS3 fixed them and made them legit mechanics. I'll be more specific if you would like. Just ask.

>>182439604
>Vordt bonfire rendered useless by the one you get right after being carried off the wall
>Dancer's bonfire being rendered useless by the one in lothric castle, literally like 3 knights later
>it also has a shortcut to consumed king's garden
>Dragonslayer armour obviously
>High lord wolnir bonfire with no enemies between it and the irythill one
>Oceiros bofire, when one enemy later you have the untended graves bonfire
Probably missed some

>>182439564
>DaS 3 was innitially designed without the bonfires in boss arenas in mind
this honestly would've been great

>Ashen Graves bonfire up until Firelink
>Undead Settlement bonfire up until Dilapidated Bridge (ignoring cliff underside)
>road of sacrfice until ... well okay halfway tower
>halfway tower until Farron Keep
>Cathedral outskirts until Cleansing chapel because fuck those dogs and archers
>cleansing chapel until Mommy Rosaria
>Farron Perimeter until Catacombs nonfire
some might still need to be there

>>182439564
>I have a theory that DaS 3 was innitially designed without the bonfires in boss arenas in mind

The thing is, the boss bonfires rarely trivialize gameplay the way mid-level bonfires do.

Dark Souls 3 would be a lot better if they only did level start and boss bonfires like DeS / BB.

One of the worst offenders in level design is Undead Settlement where the level is really well interconnected but they trivialize most of it by giving you way too many bonfires.

>bonfire
>go through 4 enemies
>another bonfire
>two more bonfires in the level after that

Meanwhile stuff like DSA bonfire was basically harmless because there was no gameplay between it and the Grand Archives bonfire that would be trivialized by the bonfire being there.

>>182439587
By design I meant the atmosphere, visuals and music. Arenas where you fought the bosses, as well as the bosses themselves looked easily the best out of the entire series imo.

>>182439604
Vordt, Crystal Sage, Deacons, Wolnir, Yhorm, Aldrich, DSA, Princes, any dlc boss. These all drop unnecessary bonfires and some only needed a homeward bone drop to save the player the walk back. Oceiros and Dancer too, kind of.

No I honestly don't care to hear any more assbackwards retard logic if its all the same to you.

>>182439659
I prefer it that way, you can change fashion whenever you want, you can adjust your equipement load as you change weapons and such.

>>182439896
Untended Graves is hidden behind an illusory wall, I can let that one slide.

>>182439905
The boss bonfires are not the problem, when you kill the area boss, that should rightfully be a checkpoint. Most of the time the boss bonfires are just there to give you a way to warp out instead of losing your souls to the connecting area to the next map.

>>182440134
Well yes, but in the case you don't find the wall, the oceiros bonfire only saves you a homeward bone, it hardly matters.

What are some armors in DaS2, like actual plate armor sets, that look good on female characters?

>>182440150
Even that wasn't really needed, could have gone the 1 route and just given you a homeward bone after every boss for the "hey retard its time to turn back now" sign.

>>182440134
Even in that case, you only have one enemy to fight and no area. I would let it slide if only the bonfire was hidden by the illusory wall

>>182440067
>DaS2 is shit
>TALKING SHIT WITHOUT PROOF
>I can show you the proof
>No I honestly don't care to hear any more assbackwards retard logic

DaS2 babbies never fail to amuse me.

>>182439932
Tbh I found the Undead Settlement to be well designed. The bonfires aren't that close, and this early in the game you don't have a lot of estus either, so you could run out easily if there was only one.

>>182440340
>so you could run out easily if there was only one.
Thats the crux of the argument, people who liked early game 1 think running out of estus should be a constant threat, not a sign of a bonfire being around soon.
Honestly it doesn't really even matter because the series never solved the "just run past everything" issue, if you are having trouble getting through an area without spending too much estus then you can always leg it

>>182439564
Im pretty sure it was
There are unused animation that mimic the trailer for DS3 where the main character just makes a bonfire by smacking a sword into the ground

>>182440340
>and this early in the game you don't have a lot of estus either, so you could run out easily if there was only one.

The segmented Estus was a dumb design decision imho or they should've started you off with 5 flasks by default.

>>182440240
>could have gone the 1 route and just given you a homeward bone after every boss for the "hey retard its time to turn back now" sign.

Yeah, but for non-dead end levels it's kind of stupid to make the player have to backtrack the boss door run after they've already killed the boss and it would've been better design to stick with the BB / DeS style design where you consistently only get lamps when you kill a boss and the boss lamp / archstone acts as the start for the next area (or if it's a dead end allows you to warp out) instead of the game just giving you bonfires every 10 feet like DaS3 does.

>>182440508
>the series never solved the "just run past everything" issue
I don't see how could they desu, making it so that enemies block your paths completely feels pretty cheap.

>>182440658
Remove fog wall iframes so they actually serve a purpose and give enemies really high run speed if they are chasing the player and behind them a certain distance. You will now have to either fight a giant group at the fog gate or actually clear the area as you progress, problem solved

>>182440604
Fixed flask amount would make it easier to properly design levels, but hopefully it wouldn't come with the DaS 1 kindling, where you could get an absurd amount of esuts.

>>182408659
Given the amount of shitters in /dsg/ who clearly hated the game because they couldn't legitimately beat it, I'd say it's better than the bad rap it gets (especially SotFS).
>>182432362
>>182410550
Didn't take long to find some.

>>182440508
I'd say making enemies chase you to the ends of the earth and letting them interrupt fogwall animations was a solid counter to trying to run through everything.
Then again, these were present in a game that decided if you were too bad to beat a boss in 15 tries the enemies would despawn to rub it in.

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>>182440832
>le DaS2 was hard meme

>>182440769
It could make the boss runs tedious though. In DaS 2 I was always frustrated by the long boring runs to Darklurker or Sir Alonne, with those super fast knights of his.

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>>182440508
*teleports in front of u*
*blocks ur path*
bark bark, motherfucker

>>182440773
I think Bloodborne's Blood Vials / DeS grass (if it was limited to something reasonable like something equal to 20-30 instead of stacks of 99) was the best healing system because it allowed players to not only have enough heals to go through the entire level and have a decent chance at the boss in one go without needing warps / bonfire rests, it also allowed players to resupply off of enemies so it also encouraged you to do levels in singular attempts rather than unlock shortcut --> rest --> unlock shortcut --> rest --> unlock shortcut --> rest, warp back to Hunter's Firelinknexus to level up and buy consumables --> warp back in --> go kill the boss.

>feel off
>win none of your invasions and even get invaded and die

>>182441071
Nioh did healing items best.

>>182440919
Fume Knight is probably the best boss in Souls in general
>Perfect medium difficulty
>No Bullshit attacks
>Bonfire near the fight
>Incredible cool factor
>Has a waifu that will never love him back so he's also incredibly relatable

>>182440927
Darklurker had like 3 dudes for you to kill if you went for the drangleic castle bonfire, but I get your point. But that was kind of the point wasn't it, to actually make the area before the boss a part of the test rather than something to be ignored or skipped entirely.
But then again 2 had lifegems and despawning enemies so one step forward 2 backwards

>>182441181
He was easy. The only reason he would almost kill you are bullshit attacks. A close bonfire doesn't affect his quality. He is so far the opposite of cool, that his sword literally bursts into flames after a certain point.

>>182441071
I didn't play DeS
Blood Vials were an ok system, but early game, when they were still pretty expensive you'd usually end up having to farm them before a boss.
Now that I think about it, maybe it's not so bad, since on ng+ or a completely new game where you'd already know the bosses and have some experience they'd go down easier, without the need of farming.

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>>182440508
>the series never solved the "just run past everything" issue
It was not an issue that needed fixing.

>>182440658
>>182440769
>>182440927

They listened to the players and the result was annoying as fuck. Boss door runs have always been the staple of the Souls series and trying to really artificially limit them was severely annoying in DS2 especially if you have to attempt a boss multiple times.

Boss door runs always run the risk of the player fucking up and then the big horde in tow just raping them and then the player risks losing their souls if they already died to the boss. This is reasonable if the boss door run is made long enough that fucking up the run feels like a deterrent.

Alternatively you can encourage people to fight the level by doing the DeS / BB thing of using consumable heal items so you can attempt to "farm" for them while on the way to the boss.

I personally found myself fighting a lot of the PvE to a bunch of BB bosses because it was at the same time resupplying for the bossfight.

>>182441329
He had no bullshit attacks tho
He was like the Old Iron King in a way that you could pretty much guess all his attacks in the first fight
He's one of the rare fights in DS that felt fair

>>182441414
Yeah, that random bullet hell attack was so normal. Him blocking with his sword, my guard break attempt just bouncing off, then getting poked by him was also totally predictable and in line with what the game taught you up to that point.

LOL

>>182408659
No, it's actually quite good.
Better than 3, that's for certain.

>>182441181
Yeah, you spend or don't find all the iron rods and you get anally raped with healing boss. and you can not fix this in current playthrough.

>>182441538
>the game thought you can can guardbreak dudes thrice as large as you
Because it totally workes against the old knights, the mastadon knights, looking glass knight and jesus fucking christ dude you are really digging deep into the nitpick hole here.

>>182441181
>Bonfire near the fight
I think this counts against him for me personally.
I don't mind cutting the runs when the run itself has literally nothing going on for it (like the Throne of Want is just a long annoying corridor and you have to wait for the door to open every fucking time and you have to equip the King's Ring) but generally I think a good and suspenseful boss door run adds tensions to the boss fight.

Like for example the approach to Penetrator in Demon's Souls(or Homoprinces in DS3 it's essentially the same), the corridor to The One Reborn in Bloodborne and the run to Gwyn in DS1.

>>182441538
Bullet Hell is completely normal because you're not gonna be an idiot and stand in front of him when he prepares his obvious aoe,giving you time to see the fires coming and dodge them
Also
>Attacking bosses when they're not in recovery frames from their missed attacks
You brought that last part onto yourself

Has the Craftsman's hammer always been this good? I just killed two twinks with it in a single combo

>>182441560
You'll have enough smelter wedges to destroy all but one Ashen Idol and only one of them being capable of healing him is ignoreable

>>182441413
>Boss door runs have always been the staple of the Souls series
Nah, its shitty design because you are not risking anything by doing it since if you don't kill anything you have 0 souls to lose by attempting the run. The win condition being just touching the fog wall and hitting the "I'm invulnerable button" removed any real threat outside of enemies placed in front of doors to block you.
The issue 2 had was that you got infinite healing via lifegems, making attrition a non issue, thats what caused the system to fail because it wasn't challenging the player to beat the area without using valuable resources, it was just wasting time.

>>182441589
>looking glass knight
Didn't that very fight expect you to spam attacks into his shit to stop him from summoning help from his shield or something?

>>182441602
>you have to equip the King's Ring
As and aside you don't have to do that in Scholar, if the fix for it was that easy then beats me why they didn't just patch it into vanilla.

>>182441602
>the corridor to The One Reborn
There is teleport shortcut, that gets you almost to boss fog

>>182441807
>LKG encouraged you to hit his shield to stop his summoning
What the actual fuck am I reading here? Someone please explain to me, I am unable to grasp how "Hit a dude during his charge up animation" translates into "Guard breaks should work against giant enemies when they have never done so before"

>>182441602
I dont mind running up to the boss if its stuff like Taurus Demon,or running over to the Pursuer or such things,where its just a jog with dodging here and there
But the DLC that had Raime also had Iron Passage and Memory of the Old King which were incredibly annoying,Iron Passage because of the slow spells and MofoK was helling due to the ammount of fast enemies and those fire geckos

Does Ashes of Ariandel give the player enough material to upgrade weapons past +6? You can find enough chunks and twin bloodstone shard in the Hunter's Nightmare to face Ludwig with a +7 weapon, so I always take this route to have a +8 weapon before Forbidden Woods.

Is there any way in webm for retards to add a picture to the webm but only at the very end? Whatever I add seems to be for the entire duration

>>182441752
>Nah, its shitty design because you are not risking anything by doing it
You're risking your souls and & or max health but in return you're saving time.

Perhaps I might agree with you if I hadn't experienced first hand the extreme end of this kind of thinking from the devs with Undead Crypt and the 7 Syan Knights turtling the fog door.

>>182436401
bls respond

>>182441901
Yes, but you have to find it first and it's somewhat hidden.

>>182441973
AoA is Chunk heaven.

>>182441985
What souls are you risking? You don't get souls for running past enemies and the amount of souls you would have earned from a single run to a boss is hardly ever significant enough to actually be an issue.
If you run past everything then you gain no souls, if you have no souls to lose then you have nothing to lose, you can ember up when your already in the boss fight removing that consequence as well.

>>182436401
>Aldritch is autistically moaning
You mean Gwyndolin