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>Fire Emblem Heroes FAQ and links
pastebin.com/sCR1qRtB

>Links and Resources
pastebin.com/DSnHZ3EC

>Fire Emblem Echoes Links
pastebin.com/qwVAhNkb

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>>182402749
No feet allowed
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penis in micaiah yes
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>>182402749
sniff
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More like BerCUTE
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kill all tripfaggots
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>>182402749
I was preparing a thread, but this one is ok. Heroes when!
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>>182402749
Mommy!
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>>182402749
>New OP pic is Micaiah

Based OP. Also >>182402706
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I really like Tharja.
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*inhales*
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Ni-!

>>182402872
-no.
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/feg/ has spoken
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>>182402872
Lankey (Mankey) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Vital Spirit
EVs: 8 HP / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
IVs: 0 Def / 0 SpD
- Endeavor
- Counter
- Encore
- Vacuum Wave
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>>182402872
Need a safe space?
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>>182402872
Nino!
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>>182403008
jiku
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>>182402872
I didn't read but I'll reply anyway
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Julia!
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>>182402872
champ
>>182402918
>>182402930
>>182402972
>>182403025
>>182403042
>>182403047
team
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>>182403020
What did /feg/ mean by this?
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I'm gonna rim Bercute's boypussy!
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Reminder that Reddit HATES Tatiana. Do you know who they like? Rinea.
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>>182402872
Fates was good. Echoes is bad.
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I have a +Spd/-Def and +Atk/-Def Fae.

Which is better?
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The doujin's been uploaded to Exhentai now. Thanks for the support. If we get another good FE doujin, we can try to translate it too.

https://exhentai.org/g/1086116/ebedeeb7c5/
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>>182402806
I don't play by the rules

>>182402927
I've never even played RD but Micaiah makes my bepis feel funny
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>>182403008
berukutuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!
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>>182403192
I only wish I could buy you all a beer
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>>182402872
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what a terrible fucking thread
>>182403192
thanks for saving it
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>>182403191
+spd probably
i don't know what her base speed is though so ot might just be better to look at her stats on the wiki or do damage calcs
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why is showderp here
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>>182403185
Maybe you should go back there with them.
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>>182403187
I feel like /feg/ wouldn't hate Echoes if the e-celebs didn't shill the fuck out of it.
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>>182403279
Talk with watermelon in your inventory
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>>182403187
That's like saying beer is good and soda is bad
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>>182403279
Have less than 15 units
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What a sad and pathetic Tempest Reward. I'm here to fix things
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>>182403125
>Felicia will never be this bookish qt3.14 instead of the shrieking retard she is
I hate everything
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>>182403336
and I feel like Echoes apologists are cancer
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is this the weekly breakdown or is that gonna come when berkut is released?
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>>182403336
by /feg/ you mean like two people on here, being generous, right
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>>182402964
That's my wife
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>>182403279
by not gorillaposting
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>>182402872
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>>182403419
He'll have Tobin stats but a little lower because of cavalier and no villager
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>>182403309
33 Atk/28 Speed.

I dunno. Fury + QR is probably best? But with +Spd and Fury she'd reach 37 Speed.
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>>182403216
Fair enough she is rather attractive. But she's better once you get to know her
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>>182403336
I think /feg/ would hate Echoes more if there weren't e-celebs and the notion that old FE has to be better than nuFE.

Echoes is an extremely flawed FE game that is a major step down mechanically even when compared to Awakening or fucking SD of all games. It really only has presentation going for it.
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Give me one good reason why esportsfags would pick flier or armor meme teams over horse teams (no, Arena score isn't a valid response)

Horses
>Can cover half the map in a single turn
>Wide variety of units, many easily accessible
>Buffs also easily accesible
>Don't have many strong counters, if any

Fliers
>(lolarrows, (lolMerric
>Two movement like infantry, only redeeming factor is not being restricted by terrain
>Majority of units are lances
>Only ranged flier is limited
>Skills are locked behind some pretty rare units (Hinoka, Minerva, Caeda for CaedaAnon)
>Counters are extremely common

Armor
>SIX (6) WHOLE UNITS
>Half of which are useless (Seriously, who even uses Draug or Gwendolyn?)
>Armorslayers, Heavy Spears, and Hammers are everywhere
>(lolnomovement
>Hector, the only one with DC, is incredibly rare, and the only good green at offense
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Who would win in a three way fight between Nyna, Tatiana, and Rinea?
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>>182403336
It's just that guy who couldn't handle being assblasted from his Echoes rant last week. Don't assume the entire general
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>>182402872
So.... I take it you're from /gbfg/? >>182402117
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>>182403192
>futa
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>>182403531
maps with trees
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>>182403336
I feel like it's a couple of trolls and maybe 1 or 2 people who legitimate hate it. Most seem to like it
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I like Hana
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>>182403506
>that is a major step down mechanically even when compared to Awakening
Please explain why you feel this way.
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>>182403538
Only one of them died happy so Tatiana
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>>182403471
What makes people assume this again
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>>182403479
instead of QR go with lightning breath, but the +spd set looks to be pretty decent so i'd go with that
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>>182403419
Genny was just a red herring. Berkut is the real sheep.
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>>182403531
Arena score
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Why haven't you reported and filtered that gorilla spamming cuck, /feg/?
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>>182403531
*blocks your path*
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>tfw want to use Gwen in fe6 cus she's cute but she's shit

just like heroes
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>>182403336
drill =/= /feg/
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>>182403503
I don't care if her Heroes stats will be Tobin-tier, so long as she has artwork and a voice I can fap to, I'm good.
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Do yall have a baby sitter squad to level up units?
>provides buffs to all stats, healing and mobility
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>>182403687
me too
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>>182403192
>futa
>Impregnation
Thank you kind anon
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>>182403538
Obviously Nyna. Rinea would die first and Tatiana would put up a hell of a fight, but Nyna has more bloodlust.
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>>182403725
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>>182403506
>or fucking SD of all games.

Well I wouldn't go that far, but yes it's a huge step down.
If it came out 5 years ago when the remake business was booming, it would've been a nice gem. Now we're in an era where every game counts, especially for FE.
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It's literally impossible to dislike Echoes, clearly it's just one troll.
/ourgame/
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Should I play FE10?
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>>182403827
i usually just use ninian/olivia/various healers to level
the healers i usually switch out between a unit i'm leveling for levels 1-25 and then my rehabilitate clarine for the rest of the levels
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Hey Yusuke here
that'll be 8000000 yen for the copy and pasting of the face and another 3000 for the sketching of its shell.
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>>182402749
>finds Tharja's japanese name
>puts into google translate
>presses play audio
https://translate.google.com.au/?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&client=tw-ob#auto/en/%E3%82%B5%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AA%E3%83%A3
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W-What's going on in this thread ?
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>>182403506
>major step down mechanically even when compared to Awakening or fucking SD
Now this is shitposting
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>>182403192
How about you do something that doesn't pander to closet homosexuals next time?
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>>182403192
>futa

whats the appeal?
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>>182404019
Yes. After playing FE9.
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>>182404038
Looks like average /feg/ to me.
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>>182403702
Less weapons, classes, skills, no weapon triangle, no weapon level, no weapon level bonuses, no dynamic weapon level as a result of no weapon level and triangle, even less focus on unit positioning due to less enemies, more open maps, and less unique enemies per map with varied equipment, no real reason to focus as much on building supports, no hit bonuses from standing next to units, no class inheritance from marriage, no optimization of children, and reclassing is more limited off the top of my head.
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>>182403192
I'll make a note of this in my journal.
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So I have 2 Summer Tikis, one is +Atk/-Res and the other is +Spd/-HP.

On the one hand the +Atk seems like it would be good if I ever get Brave Axe+ fodder, but 30 speed (25 w/ brave) kind of sucks.

On the other hand the +Spd one can get pretty good speed with Fury and a Hone buff, but 32 HP fucking sucks and would absolutely require HP+3 to make usable.

Which one should I use?
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>>182404019
Do you find the pictured woman at least remotely attractive? If so, then yes. Also there's more Ike if that's your kinda thing. Youses do youses, friend.
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>>182404032
I regret drawing this
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>>182403649
>>182404065
>>182404083
found the turbo gays. futa on female is the straightest
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>>182403913
oh fuck i read that so wrong
i thought it said DC i need to go to sleep
yeah QR+fury would be best but only if you have a healer because QR takes up her renewal slot and she gets pushed out of QR range if she attacks once or twice due to fury damage
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>>182404146
I regret giving birth to you
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>>182403819
I will aim to summon and use her as much as possible even if she's Odin tier.
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>>182403649
>>182404065
>>182404083
Faggots
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I REAAAAAALLLLLYYY want to fuck my brother!
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>>182404210
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>spend 100 orbs getting fodder for my crew.
>barely anything
>three 4* the rest are 3*
>get 20 orbs today from random shit
>...fuck it
>one more go
>get this
ayyyyyy fuckin here we go
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Y-You too
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>>182404210
Fuck off Eirika
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>>182404210
t. Literally half the imouto characters in the series.
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>>182403713
>people who 5*'d Camus and don't want to regret it if Berkut turns out to be better
>the 1-2 retards here who keep trying to push the meme that all SoV units are shit (Tobin and Clair are shit to be fair but all the others range from decent to amazing in Celica's case)
>Drill

This is what I've seen anyways.

Really even if he turns out to be better/worse than Camus just use whoever you like honestly, FEH is nowhere near difficult enough to where you need to go full esports to beat everything it has to offer.
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>>182404115
>no weapon triangle
Right off the bat you prove you're retarded. Thanks for playing.
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>>182404172
>>182404202
>dicks are straight

wut
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Will there be a Battling Biscuit banner?
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>>182404019
Yes definitely. Even if it's before FE9 imo. But playing FE9 would probably be for the best.
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>>182404210
I support your every decision anonymous
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>>182403702
Npt him, but the people who dislike Gaiden/Echoes are the kind of people who see FE as the SRPG series it is and should be. Echoes is a really bad SRPG, I could barely even call it that, it's basically a standard JRPG with an "unique" battle system.

Hell, have you tried going back to another FE game after playing SoV? I wasn't even thinking half the time, most if not all of the harder maps in the game are that way because one or a few more units are strong, and I haven't even talked about the Turnwheel. That being said, I really love the game as I do most good jrpgs, but I can see why some righteously think it's a bad FE game
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>>182404115
The weapon triangle was the worst part of SD you mong, the game was clearly not balanced to have it but they put it in anyway. They learned from that mistake. Also Echoes actually added enemies. And it had a completely different skill system and weapon system so it's really apples and oranges which is why everyone knows you're baiting
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>>182404326
Aww did someone miss the Camus GHB?
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>>182404210
Stop with your brotherlust, Priscilla. You're already married to Erk.
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>>182404083
>>182404065
>>182403649
Futa on female is delicious
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You know at this point I don't even care about the whole Pre-Awk vs Post-Awk argument anymore.

I just wish IS would stop shoving us older fans under the carpet.
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>>182404334
>I would rather see dicks on ugly men than women
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>>182404023
Nice,I don't have Ninian :/
if I had a Live to Serve healer it would be better too.
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THE BEST PART ABOUT MICAIAH IS HOW HER TIGHTS ACCENTUATE HER LEGS AND ASS
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>>182404334
so man on woman sex is gay because there are dicks?
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>>182404179
yea but on +Atk or +Spd, that's the question. 34 Spd pre-buffs seems rather high for QR?
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>>182404326
>Not using Camus AND Berkut, alongside Xander and Ursula to form the GHB Horse Emblem
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>Eldigan and Xander will never sandwich you while Mamui masturbates furiously in the next room, waiting to take his turn.

Sucks desu.
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>>182404430
dick fuck
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>>182404334
>tits are gay
ok
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>>182404430
Gonna need a visual representation of it
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>>182404437
precisely.

putting dicks on the women too? even more gay
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>>182404083
>>182403649
>I share /feg/ with these kind of plebs
wew
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>>182404375
Echoes adding enemies doesn't change the fact that most maps never go above 20 enemies per map.

And a less complex skill and weapon system isn't apples and oranges. It's an inferior system when compared to Awakenings.
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I want Sanaki to stick her cute painted fingernails down my urethra
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>>182404520
So female on futa is less gay than straight sex?
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>>182404457
then you might want to go TA+QR on the +atk one if you really want to run QR
what are you using her for, a dedicated blue killer or a general purpose green?
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>>182404210
You're married to Azelle already, Lachesis.
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>>182404556
Futa is the plebbiest shit imaginable. It's like the Echoes of fetishes.
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>>182404282
>tfw no Marth

I wanna make an Altea team, damn it.
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>>182404128
+atk, Only real good build for her is the Brave Axe one and 33 speed without the Brave Axe is nothing to write home about.

Plus, the -res hurts her if you do keep close def since she'll be effectively weaker to dragons that way.
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>>182403175
That /feg/ will never agree on anything
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WHENS THE MICCY BANNER

WE WANT MICCY

WE WANT MICCY
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>>182404592
you're really bad at penis math
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Ephraim is literally blue Alfonse.
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>>182404592
straight sex has 1 male and 1 female so its 50% gay
futas are 50% male and 50% female
therefore futa on female is only 25% gay, making twice as straight as straight sex
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>>182404380
Nope, 5*'d Camus a bit back and he's been the star of many many battles for me even without Cavmemes to back him up.

Fully intend to 5* Berkut at some point too because I like him as well (although he may wait for Xander since I did miss him).

Again, FEH is not so hard that you need to go full esports over everything.
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Repost from previous thread
I have tons of Cecilias, but none of them +atk.
Will I regret it if I invest in a +spd one?
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>>182404372
>>182404115
Quantity =/= Quality, Awakening is cluttered with useless shit where atleast it's cut down and better implemented in the Gaiden remake (weapons, skill system, limited reclassing outside of mercs). And really, positioning and "less open" maps in Awakening, did we play the same game?
>>182404372
Yeah, but I was talking compared to Awakening. I understand and find Gaiden lacking myself, but I do like the addition of the turnwheel.
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>>182404403
I honestly don't think we're that shoved under the carpet

Barring warriors, we've been getting cool stuff.

Maybe I'm not angry about Warriors because I like Awakening and Fates' characters
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>>182404556
They probably came after the golden age of fates futa
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Can we remove Micaiahfags, Berkutfags, and Camusfags?
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>>182404664
Yes please
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>>182404615
Take them away from me, even the 5*
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>>182404664
We'll finally discover to which color Light magic belongs.
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>>182404592
The only thing less gay than futa x female is female x female but lesbians are gay.
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>>182404592
obviously
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>>182404664
Immediately after you spend all of your orbs
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>futa

yawn

i thought you were better than this mainstream garbage, /feg/
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>>182404761
as soon as we remove you
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>>182404610
Feet are the pleb fetish.
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>>182404782
Linde thinks light magic is blue magic
Julia thinks it's green magic
Micaiah thinks its red magic
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>>182404761
Micaiah isn't on the same level as them and you know it anon.
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>>182404565
>Awakening
>complex weapon system
You literally had zero reason not to use the strongest weapons/magic since weight was removed. You also had infinite reclassing so you could get any skill you wanted. A busted, stupid system.
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>>182404780
Jesus, Marth loves you
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>>182404832
how new
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>>182404870
>implying she won't be some new colorless meta mage
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>>182404870
>Another slow red mage
Please no. We don't need ANOTHER slow red mage
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>>182404854
feet are only ok when paired with sanaki lolidom and only when there are socks/stockings involved
bare feet are gross
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>>182404870
Julia thinks it's blue since it's blue when she casts it
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>>182404908
Wasn't it just BiS of Aversa's Night and if you're not using that either reclass or use a brave weapon?
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Thunder Tits?
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>>182404729
>there are people so bad at the game they dont have two/three of each GHB hero
its actually pathetic
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>>182404729
Don't bother, 3/4 of the people here think that unless it's Reinhardt/Hector/their waifu they're automatically a shit unit
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>>182404854
Feet is the Fates of fetishes and ass is the Awakening.
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>>182404908
Not that person but I disagree. It wasn't busted, it was fun. I'll never understand why people push so hard that having options breaks a game. If you don't want them, don't use them.
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>>182403442
I love her the way she is
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>>182404908
I like the attempts at fixing skills and reclass in Fates, though honestly I rather focus on skill be dialed down to be more like how they implemented them in Echoes or bring it WAY down to something like Jugdral to give characters more unique flare (though Fates does have somewhat of a flare with personal skills).
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spill me the beans /feg/
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>>182405057
futa is the FE9 and Futa Impreg is FE10

vore is thracia
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What classifies as a good map? im not a master tactician so i dont see a damn difference and thats the key point of SoV: bad maps well they are just big open fields and everyone boom rush you thats it?
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>>182404962
Tsubaki of all units was given 35 spe. Because some units were heavily revised.

Micaiah will powercreep Thargarbage for the third time, with Linde stats.
P-please...
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>>182405079
Sex with Midori
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>>182404403
Cipher at least promises old characters will get art eventually. Heroes has helped push quite a few characters into the spotlight too, sometimes to the point of displacing their original popularity.

Warriors still seems like a missed opportunity, and it remains to be seen if Echoes was a one-off or if they're still interested in presenting classic FE games to a new audience.
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>>182405130
But vore isn't good but massively circlejerked
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>>182404297
Bend over bitchboi
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>>182405091
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>>182404908
why do people complain about fates' weapon system, again?
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>>182405064
>If you don't want them, don't use them

This doesn't change the fact that they do break the game when used, though
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>>182405187
>Vore is bad but massively circlejerked as "hardcore shit"
PRECISELY
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>>182405064
Problem is there is no inbetween with Awakening, you're either playing a completely broken and boring game, or you're slogging through bullshit enemies that had no thought placed in their skills and placement. It's just not well implemented. I sometimes wonder if the game ever got tested at all.
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>>182404746
Warriors is especially a huge hint IS is displaying they aren't acknowledging the older games. Like at Hyrule Warriors, it had characters/obscure characters all over the place from each game. Not just 3 fucking games.

I have nothing against Awakening or Fates, but it really displays how corporate IS has became that they rather listen to sales than their own fans. This is why the Paper Mario franchise is going down the trash.
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>>182405130
No. Futa is Echoes, stop trying to attach your shitty fetish to good things.
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>>182405218
Silver weapons existed solely for the benefit of the enemy
Dragon stones were garbo
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Just wanted to remind you folks that IS had no part in selecting the original roster for Warriors. That was all Koei who we can logically conclude isn't all that familiar with the series besides it most recent versions. You have every right to disappointed but direct them at the right people.

>>182405226
Doesn't change the logic that you have every option to not use it. Not arguing whether it was implemented poorly or not, but its a wholly option feature that you can skip
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>>182405158
Linde tier offensive stats are reserved for a different red mage
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>>182405235
awww come on anon. FE5 is fun, why do you hate it?

>>182405286
are you really surprised a corporation wants money, man
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>>182405218
they couldn't use silver and brave weapons willy-nilly
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>>182405218
Because it overcorrected and made PRFs and irons the far and away best weapons in the game and also magic was really bad
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>>182405287
So Echoes is good then
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>>182404739
>where atleast it's cut down and better implemented in the Gaiden remake
If by cut down, you mean completely casualized when compared to almost every other game in the series, then yes Echoes is cut down, dull, and removed features that add to the depth of the game when compared to Awakening.

>positioning and "less open" maps in Awakening, did we play the same game?
There are a multitude of maps in Awakening where unit positioning will matter, especially in the early game, which is more than I can ever say about Echoes where the maps are overwhelmingly more open and enemies much less threatening by a very large margin.
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>>182405343
Except recent interview confirmed that IS had a word in the cast and there were changes to expand it because even IS found it too limited. Not that is matters much since this was pre-CYL, coming from the time IS was clueless on which characters people like.
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>>182404916
So does Corrin and mRobin, I got salty from getting so many Robins I merged them all into my 5* Robin just for the sp
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>>182405412
It's futa.
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>>182405391
>magic was really bad

this is how you know someone doesn't know what they're talking about
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>>182405370
I admit the scrolls were one of the best things ever implemented in FE. They made levelling up so much more fun.
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>>182405343
I'm aware of that, I even shared a no pairup/Second Seal Hardmode run a little while back and actually thought the game difficulty was much more reasonable that way

It even led me to speculate if pairup/reclassing was conceived later in development without much care for how it would affect game balance (you know, like Lunatic+)
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>>182405514
Yes. Both are good.
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Penis is Micaiah yes
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>>182405457
Link me this interview please. Because the original I read in Famitsu said that Koei selected the first batch, sent it to IS and IS returned it to select different people. It on reddit. You are totally correct in the statement that the game was probably more than halfway made before the CYL and they are just wildly disconnected from what their fanbase wants.
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Micaiah did nothing wrong.
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>>182405091
I've been contemplating doing this and 5*ing her for about a week now but I can't bring myself to sacrifice Athena or spend the feathers
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>Tfw no Camilla
>Tfw no Kagero
>Tfw no Lyn
What the fuck IS, give me titties, two of them even come at 4*
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>>182405626
>>>182405457 (You)
Link me this interview please. Because the original I read in Famitsu said that Koei selected the first batch, sent it to IS and IS returned it to select different people
That's the same one I refered to.
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>>182405471
>still no M!Corrin as well

Damn man. I want your disease just for a bit. I want to get this idiot so I can use him with Water.

>>182405560
Yeah they're really fun.
I would say the universal caps too, but it's kinda moot to chug around an armor knight when you can have a high def mobile unit instead (who's not weak to hammers and armorslayers to boot)

So I'm not sure if I like universal caps or not. I go back and forth on that. not really a fan of dismounting, though. It does works well in Thracia, I must say, but I still don't like it
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>>182404908
Compared to Echoes where any unit can use a weapon regardless of their weapon level so long as they can wield it, yes Awakening's weapon system is more complex. Any FE game (other than Gaiden) has a more complex weapon system than Echoes/Gaiden do.
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>>182405681
>tfw camilla and spring camilla
I'm drowning on titties anon.
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>>182405663
True
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Hoy
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>>182405370
Is that right before chapter 18?
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>>182405681
>lumping Lyn with those titty goddesses

This meme needs to stop. Lyn's tits are average at best.
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>>182405370
A lot of vidya corporations focus primarily on the profit first, but they still bring focus on the fans. Eventually all the franchises IS is either abandoning or destroying is either going to blow up in their face or be milked dry.
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>>182405750
ANYTHING CAN BEHOLD MY DEMONS

>>182405767
I actually have no idea. It's been years since I played FE5
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>>182405750
It's Hoy time we began

Who is the Walter of FE
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>>182405750
I'LL END IT THUS
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We are still missing some very important things
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I have three Corrin(F), which is the best out of the three to keep/level/use in the long run?
5 star +atk -def
3 star +def -res
3 star +hp -speed
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>>182404115
>no class inheritance from marriage, no optimization of children,
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>>182405852
lobster
they're both matt mercer
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>>182405809
You do you

I'm happy for what they're throwing at us lately, but I'm tired of having this discussion every thread man. You have all the rights to not be happy I guess.
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>>182405954
>-def
DOA

>-res
DOA

>+hp
cool not he best but not as bad as the other 2
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Things the FE Heroes balance team likes:
Lucina
Cordelia
Thracia
the color blue
young dragons
instant kills
the speed stat

Things they dislike:
elderly men
Shadows of Valentia
Tobin deserves special mention
Lyn
dark magic
adult dragons
the color grey
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Hello /feg/ how are you doing today?

Today's Tempest Trial Benchmark is

Phantom speed seal:
>14500
All Rewards:
>35750

I might not be on at all tomorrow because it's my birthday but here's the benchmark for tomorrow just in case:

Phantom speed seal:
>17400
All Rewards:
>42900
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>>182405391
>>182405315
I honestly disagree. Strong javelins handaxes whatever make archers redundant, losing 3 speed on shit like Kaze for instance is pratically nothing, not to mention tonics and meals ammmend that. You just can't go ham with Silver nor brave, but they can prove to be very useful on Player Phase, specially as dual strike partners.

>magic was bad
More like most magic units in both routes were bad
>nyx
>orochi
>>>>Odin

can't say much about dragonstones because I really didn't care about the class
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>wake up
>still haven't rolled Julia
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>>182404729
>all that SP with no Fury

Get on that shit nigger
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>>182405681
>have two Kageros
If only I had a reason to roll on greys more, I could probably have more of her.
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>>182405356
sanaki?
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>>182405943
Yes, Dorcas is still nowhere to be seen.
Seeing the Japanese fans react to us Westerners meme'ing him so high gave me quite the laugh.
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>>182405701
I got this small army of Corrin and Marth while trying to whale snipe on the Katarina banner. 5* Corrin and 5* Marth broke my pity rates but I did get a Ryoma out of it, along with too many Lukes and Athenas. Only ended up with 1 Katarina but ended up with -atk, not entirely a loss since I'm using Ryoma in TT and Arena runs and can use Athena as Wo Dao fodder.
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>>182406051
Happy birthday benchmark man.
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>>182406085
Yeah, the second part of the Summer banner will have Summer Sanaki with 36/36 offenses
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Arvis GHB when? What would valflame's effect be?
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>>182406050
That size difference
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>>182405286
>Like at Hyrule Warriors, it had characters/obscure characters all over the place from each game. Not just 3 fucking games.
Hyrule Warriors initially only had characters from OoT, SS, and TP aka three games.

We don't even know if Warriors will only have characters from FE1/13/14 because the translation everyone uses to point to that being the case doesn't say that only characters from those games will show up, just that most of the characters will be from those games.
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>>182405676
Do it, fag. Selena is great because you can do whatever you want with her. Make her a tanky support who flips people around and still wrecks greens and reds or give her life and death and murder further individuals.
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>>182406089
I want to see their reaction.. got a link or anything?

>>182406006
>I sided with Neutral even though I agreed more with Walter than Jonathan

Sorry Not Lobster Samurai, can't agree with bashing everyone's skull in.
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>>182405943
>Hinoka is the only female royal from Fates that didn't make it to the top 20
>got fucking destroyed by Camilla in the gauntlet
Still hilarious
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>>182405823
Sounds like it's time to replay it!

It is. Also you took the B route, next time pick the A route (Norden line).
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>>182406081
Tell the fucking gacha to give me a Hinata for once and I will.

The Shield has been more helpful than I thought though since Tempest seems to have a hardon for throwing superbuffed Raighs at me.
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>>182403191
+atk is likely better for the QR build. Speed doesn't really matter there but +atk is a lot of extra damage since you'll be doubling
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>>182406206
Swordsweep. If opponent is a sword type, they can't counter.
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>>182406069
Orochi isn't a bad unit in Birthright, there are just better units.

And it's pretty easy to make Odin near invincible with Nostanking for good portions of the game.
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Post
Pro-
Gress
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>>182406296
she's still a better character than camilla
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>>182405852
Any Ally unit in the series, namely the ones that rush toward the enemies.
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Micaiah swimsuit art when?
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>>182406160
I've also been sniping reds since New Mystery banner, and I kept sniping on the Fury one. All I got was a -atk +res I think Sanak, who I don't really care about

I also got a Eirika so that's at least cool I guess. I'm cursed with Lon'qus and Stahls instead.

>>182406303
Will do. I want to use Amalda in my next run, and use shit like Selfina and Glade.

It won't be long till I replay it. When I'm done with my FE4 run, I'll probably take a break and then replay 5
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>>182405961
I liked grinding for re-classes in fates and creating the ultimate child units. I prefer it to echoes where the option isn't there or I have to pay DLC for classes. I don't think I'm alone, but what's wrong with re-classing? Keep in mind you don't have to.

>>182406069
Yeah I agree with the magic being tied to bad because all the game generated units were shit and you didn't get a strong one unless you bred them in 2nd generations. I played Fates way back when, but one of my Corrin saves was a Sorcerer then Witch, Kanna did just as a dark night the rest of the game. It was just for fun so I didn't worry about it too much
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>>182404664
Oh Miccy you're so fine
You're so fine you blow my mind
Hey Miccy!
Hey Miccy!
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>>182406031
I literally just came back to this thread after 3 weeks of fucking around with FGO so I don't even know what discussions you are referring to.

I don't care about the state of FE anymore since theirs nothing much to do to stop it, im just showing concern for IS who were once originally a solid company.
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>>182406051
Happy birthday, helpful anon!
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>>182406051
>tfw only 1000 points
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>>182406194
thanks John Nintendo, any other news you want to leak?
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>>182406467
i only know this song from pitch perfect
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>>182406395
Birthright is one of those games where it's so easy to patch up subpar units that you need to either have no availability or be really, REALLY terrible to be classified as a "bad unit", similar to PoR minus JP Maniac.
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>>182406453
Play another game then you fucking idiot. Sorry Echoes and most other games don't have your shitty waifu sim elements
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>>182406536
are you new or just exceptionally lazy
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i got warned for posting bonobo

do you guys get warned for posting gorilla? i'm kind of confused.
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>>182406051
>already at 44,000
I think I can take it easy for a day or two. Anyways, happy early birthday, anon!
>>182406234
Can't say I have anything to share. There was one picture in particular, some other anon may have it, it's a picture of Dorcas's portrait taking up every spot in the poll results and a bunch of speed lines, written in moonrunes.
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>>182406398
She has nothing even resembling a personality or even something remotely interesting in her backstory, so nope
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>>182406069
>>magic was bad
>More like most magic units in both routes were bad

this

>>182406501
I just mean that I'm a grandpa too, and I'm happy with the current state of the company.

I have this discussion about IS being mean to grandpas every thread. Get it? I'm sick of it already and it gets nowhere so I'm just letting it die.
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>>182406453
>I liked grinding
You reek of awakeningbaby.
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>>182404115
>less weapons
I disagree, it has your average amount of weapons foun in a FE game, each with their own unique skills. Take swords for instance https://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-valentia/weapons/swords/
>Classes
It has 24 classes, 34 if you count DLC and 50 if you count enemy-only classes.
>Skills
https://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-valentia/miscellaneous/skills/
>No weapon triangle
Echoes doesn't need one and adding one will fuck over the balance by a lot.
>no weapon level
There is because as you use a weapon you unlock skills for it.
>no weapon level bonuses
>no dynamic weapon level as a result of no weapon level and triangle
See above.
>less focus on unit positioning due to less enemies, more open maps, and less unique enemies per map with varied equipment
Completely wrong. Terrain plays a bigger role so positioning yourself on advantageous terrain or playing around the enemy having the terrain advantage is important. Most of the open maps are from the early game and enemies have varied equipment and weapons on HM.
>no real reason to focus as much on building supports, no hit bonuses from standing next to units
Wrong. Support bonuses are beneficial and effect units within 3 spaces.
>no class inheritance from marriage, no optimization of children
Play another game then. Stupid point.
>reclassing is more limited
Reclassing is dumb.
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>>182403336
There are some people who have grievances but the majority of the people here liked it looks like
Any hyperbole is Shitposters.
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>>182405450
>There are a multitude of maps in Awakening where unit positioning will matter
You mean a couple spot-pass, post-game, and children maps. Like Tiki defense, Aversa clones, and villager rescue. Regular chapters are just empty fucking "rush down enemy with no strategy" slogs. Shit, I should just find an archive of neatly organized Delphisage posts for each chapters, or make one myself, and post it next time I see argument like this instead. Not like Gaiden is much of a step-up, being mostly populated with same style of empty flat maps that waste your time, though there was some neat castle siege maps along with some memorable maps reused in Awakening.

Infact let me just stop here since we are arguing about one shit game being better than another shit game. Though I don't see how just heaving shitload of useless and thoughtless features is somehow better when they add little to nothing when it comes to the gameplay. What does it matter if there are three schools of nearly-identical magics for each tier that come down to "which has highest MT"? What does it matter having "weapon vaiety" when in the end you're just using whatever has highest MT and having no cons for uses, effects, or weight? What does it matter if there shitload of useless skills thrown on every class like some kind of collectable game, what does it fucking matter if there's weapon triangle if you're never going to make use of it in any meaningful way, what does it fucking matter about having all these supports when they are 90% shit, what does it matter if marriage is there when children are a terrible mechanic, why does reclassing matter when there are no checks and balances to it and it's just a broken piece of shit in same way Gaiden has infinite reclassing mercs. What does having a million of useless broken mechanics matter when it does nothing to actually make game complex since it's all thrown on there as an afterthought for how it'll work itself in the game itself?
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>>182406591
Oh no, you misunderstand me. I didn't say Echoes needed to be Awakening or have any of the features of such, I was explaining what I enjoyed more and encouraging discussion. They are two different games and Echoes is a remake of a classic. I'm pleased they stayed mostly traditional.

>>182406670
???
I like things you don't.
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what kind of name is kirsch
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>>182406537
Alvis GHB after Berkut, he's a red armor mage
Sigurd will be released alongside him
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>>182405954
Depending on the build, +def -res is good too.
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>>182406727
>>No weapon triangle
why is that considered a bad thing?

the guy is just listing irrelevant bs that could be removed from most FE games and it would make them better, Echoes was easily the best FE on 3ds and probably the 2nd best FE that i've played

what's with all the hate for it lately?
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>>182406451
Best luck to you on your future rolls. I feel like there's not many good fodder when it comes to reds and a lot of 5* reds are trash. At least you've got some vantage fodder.
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>>182403336
It's not even that. You can't even be critical of Echoes because you get "Drill, drill, drill!" from the Echoesdrones. It's unbelievable.
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>>182403191
>>182406352
actually, I take that back. Looks like +spd and +atk are very close. Do what you want. 34 speed could prevent some doubles on you and 50 attack is also nice
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>>182406069
Nyx isn't even bad really, she just needs tonics to patch up her blindness.
>>
Is Shanna supposed to be an unstoppable killing machine in FE6? She is literally soloing entire packs of enemies. Did I just get lucky with stat growths or is she always this bloodthirsty? On chapter 17A if that gives enough context.
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>>182406764
actually thunder magic's shit hit has fucked me over more than once in my no pair up runs of awakening
>>
Is there any reason to use Camus now that Berkut is out?
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>>182406894
Drill got triggered and played off the insecurities of some retards on here
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>>182406835
He's not going to be a red armor mage and RoD Ike is not going to get a 2 range weapon
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>>182406396
I'm still enjoying myself.
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>>182406930
Get a trip if you want people to call you something else
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>>182406820
My wife's name
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>Battling Berkut banner
>Alm, Donnel, Rebecca and Barst
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>>182405064
>not that person
Fuck off. There's nothing fun about awakening.
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>>182406984
what are his stats
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>>182406972
>Nyx isn't really bad
Look at the stat lines compared to of all the mages you get, all she has is MAG and SPD (which isn't even THAT much better than other units). It's just sad.
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>>182406395
I really dislike odin, he was pretty shit every single time I tried to do something with him, I camn't see myself ever wasting money on him agaiin for no good reason
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>>182406990
Post eldigan.
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>>182406984
yes, you can have 2 blue cavs plus once one hits 2000 HM you can just switch to the other
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>>182406984
If you like Camus use him. tadaa
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>>182406894
Being contrarian is literally 4chan 101 man.
>>
Dark Flier or Falcoknight for Sumia?
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>>182407073
>all she has is MAG and SPD
Nyx in Heroes when?
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>>182406995
As soon as you become a tripfag when you don't need to be one you become cancer. I'd rather have some /v/ memer retards calling me Drill than disgrace myself so.
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>>182407040
I say that because its a public but anon image board so you might pickup the discussion with another party thinking its the same person. So that what you know it isn't.

Oh and uh, I like things you don't.
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>>182407097
It's just vanilla Eldigan (+def/-hp) with hone cav.
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>>182406894
>probably the 2nd best FE that i've played
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>>182407172
You've already got the rhetoric down, so its just one easy step
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>>182407149
The bench.
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>>182405809
What the fuck are you even going on about with all these bullshit "what ifs"?
You're acting like Fire Emblem has had a strong title in the first place.
It's not only more profitable, but MUCH easier to shill a newer more loved installment instead of some """underrated""" games from 10-15 years ago that didn't get as good of sales?

Sure Awakening and Fates have major flaws in a lot of areas, but most FE fans still love both games and IS are clearly proud of their work.

If Oldfags are that bitter about it, do like that guy who's currently making that Advance War clone and make a clone of whatever old FE system you like.
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>>182406663
>this retard who grinded and used dlc is back
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>>182406972
Nyx is a glass cannon in a game where being a glass cannon isn't bad thing. On top of that she's blinder than early game Arthur with Gamble
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>>182407036
>Not a surprise release of Forsyth, Mathilda, Luthier and Cav!Kliff
Luthier is actually good
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stupid thread
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It's funny how this general can change its view on a particular matter literally in a few days' span.
Case in point: Echoes.
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>>182407270
>tfw I'm drill, tharjafag, and a grinding dlc faggot all at the same time

Damn /feg/, why do you bestow so many titles onto me?
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>>182406978
probably got lucky; compare averages

http://serenesforest.net/binding-blade/characters/average-stats/normal-mode/thany/

she's radical when she's str blessed
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>>182407201
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>>182406773
What you like is objectively shit. You can eat feces if you want but don't get mad if others think you're weird
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>>182407290
>male mage without a Brave tome
He will never be good.
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>>182407334
It's just different people. I don't visit this general every day.
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>>182407334
People have been hostile towards Echoes for a while though, it's just that there's no discussion from both sides now, just shitposting
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>>182407334
we've had shitposters both for and against echoes since the beginning. Same with every other game in the series. Trends don't exist.
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>>182407334
>it's funny how there's such a variety of people with different opinions on this board
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>>182407373
Sometimes I consider it an honor when I'm called Drill. Although, then again, it's usually from those who don't even really know about Drill.
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>>182407334
It's almost like this is a general with multiple people with different opinions, isn't it?
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>>182407334
People have been back and forth on Echoes since the Japanese leak.
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>>182407149

Bravetome dark flyer with enough speed to quad.
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3DS baby here playing FE7 for the first time. Is there anyone I should know to bench ahead of time?
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>>182407149
dark flier
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>>182407459
kys drill
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>>182407459
I honestly don't know much about "drill" other that he's a tripfag from /v/ who likes Maribelle and apparently is tharjashitter's friend.

I only know it as /feg/'s biggest boogeyman
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>>182407505
Lyn
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>>182407334
Would you rather have consistent, community-approved opinions with usernames? Because Serenes is that way >>> to your left after you make a right.
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im drill
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>>182407334
>Case in point: Echoes.
???
/feg/ has always been indifferent towards Echoes and has judged it as a mediocre yet inoffensive game since day 1, shills are the ones throwing a fit and relying on "le drill xD" boogeiman because they can't defend their sacred cow.
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>>182406071
I don't how it feels, I always had one.
It must suck, right?
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>>182407270
>this retard who thinks that build requires grinding and dlc is still here
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>>182407417
(you)

it been a while since I've seen this on /v/ meme. Listen anon, just because you don't like it doesn't make it shit. It means you didn't enjoy it. The same company that produced the older FE titled you do enjoyed produced that one, sans a old team member or three.
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>>182407505
Lyn, if you could.
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>>182405286
I'm giving IS the benefit of the doubt and assuming the Warriors roster was likely finalized before the CyL poll.

If so I can see why they might just make it nuFE only, since CyL was the first real measure of showing that no, fans do care a ton about characters and games from all across the series and not just Fateswakening.
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>>182407505
Hector, Canas, Raven
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>>182407375
Well, what do ya know, I guess I have been pretty lucky.
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>>182406764
>You mean a couple spot-pass, post-game, and children maps. Like Tiki defense, Aversa clones, and villager rescue
Congrats, you already listed more chapters where unit positioning will matter when compared to Gaiden.

>What does it matter rant
I could easily apply most of this logic to every FE game in the series, where 1-2 range, killer and iron weapons were more than enough for all the GBA games, or in the case of echoes I could point out how the killer bow completely obsoletes every other bow in the game and the ability to use seraphim obsoletes all other magic.

Every single complaint you list is present in Echoes and magnified to an even worse degree. Awakening at least has things in the game that add to it's depth if you aren't using the water trick/grinding to cheese the game. That's more than I can say about Echoes, which is a game that lacks so much depth that LTCers won't even touch it since it's that lacking in gameplay and strategy.
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>>182407505
No one really. FE7 is pretty easy. have fun and use whoever you like anon
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>>182407505
Serra. There's only room for one healer in your playthroughs. Particularly a specific red-haired princess, or maybe her brother's boyfriend.
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>>182406451
Just for the record: amalda is great, glade is good, selfina is ok.
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>>182407580
I don't even know who drill is but I've been saying it's decent. At the very least it's a nice break from nuFE garbage
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>>182407580
Be less obvious next time, drill
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>>182407580
Man, if Nintendo has shills on /feg/, I shudder at the thought. They'd be throwing away money down the drain to shill in this dumb place.
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>>182406663
>tainting Ishtar with nuFE trash
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>>182407505
game is piss easy so you can use anyone you want
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>>182407505
anyone you don't like, lyn's story is really easy. Wil has got to be one of the shittiest units in the game, though
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>>182407701
I assumed as much. I mean, prepromotes are good in 5, right?

Assumed Selfina kinda sucked, but if I memed Marty into being good, I can easily do the same to her I guess.
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>>182407686
Canas, Nils and Athos in Heroes when?
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so when is bercute being added?
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>>182407505
Everyone not on a horse or Oswin. Your next step is stop playing mediocre: the game.
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>>182407687
Get back to the bench incest-baby.
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>>182407682
>awakeningbaby is this delusiomal
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>>182407812
next week
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>>182406894
>why is that considered a bad thing?
Because the weapon triangle is a mechanic that has been present in almost every single FE game and has greatly contributed to the overall strategy that is required of the series. Removing it means that an FE game requires less strategy to beat since less thought will need to be made in regards to what units you have attack who.
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>>182407830
Serra is an objectively inferior unit to Priscilla though.
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I used Rebecca.
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>>182407830
of all the characters to post with a statement about benching
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>>182407871
>Because the weapon triangle is a mechanic that has been present in almost every single FE game
it was literally added in FE6
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>>182407763
You're implying that'll happen at all. It'll be on Serenes, if anything.
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>>182407883
Does her milkshake taste good? I hope its worth the shitty base stats and growths.
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>>182407682
>Every single complaint you list is present in Echoes and magnified to an even worse degree.
Please refer to >>182406727
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>>182407883
me too, mine had some ridiculous levels up though
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>>182407828
Which game is not mediocre: the game so I know what to play next?
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>>182407682
>LTCers

You mean the people who heap all their shit onto the statistically strongest units and just use them to tank everything? Yeah, that takes a lot of thinking to do.
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>>182407871
One dude here said gaiden/echoes worked in a class triangle instead

not even in the argument, just wanted to say that because I think it was genius

cheers to the anon who said that bye
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>>182407906
I want to bend her over a bench
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>>182407883
I did too. Screw using the "better" units, you ain't playing FE unless you use the ones you like.
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>>182407883
Same here. She was on my main squad during the endgame.
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>>182407927
>it was literally added in FE6
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>>182407172
If there is one thing I learned from talking to a 4chan troll through skype it's that making a message criticizing something and then replying to yourself with a proxy calling yourself what you want to be remembered as works.
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>>182408006
are you trying to say it wasnt added in FE6?
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>>182407645
Pretty much this, I mean I'm as sick of the constant Fates/Awakening shilling as anyone else is but come on people it's not like they only started developing the game one day before the showcase

Hopefully with CyL they'll go on to add characters like Ike/Micaiah/Lyn/Black Knight/Hector/others who did really well in, as DLC if need be
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>>182407927
>he didn't play the Jugdral games
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>>182408058
I wouldn't do anything that dishonest.
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I want to make Katarina a mother
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>>182403531
>Armor
>SIX (6) WHOLE UNITS
>Armorslayers, Heavy Spears, and Hammers are everywhere
Really though, what the fuck is the logic of this and no beast killer weapons?
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>>182408065
Not him but I'm fairly certain that 4 added it but it was barely noticeable
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>>182408006
>http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Weapon_Triangle
>Beginning with Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade,
FUCK OFFFFFFFF NEW FAGS
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>>182407682
>Congrats, you already listed more chapters where unit positioning will matter when compared to Gaiden.
Confirmed for never playing. Also, Tiki's map was garbage.

>I could point out how the killer bow completely obsoletes every other bow in the game
Unless you grind a lot, you won't have a killer bow until act 4.

>ability to use seraphim obsoletes all other magic.
Seraphim is more useful on Celica's route than Alm's.

>lacks so much depth that LTCers won't even touch it since it's that lacking in gameplay and strategy.
As if you needed more help in looking like an idiot
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>>182408184
>he still hasn't noticed IS loves the horsecock
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>>182408065
So this is an Echoes shill.
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>>182407959
FE3
FE4
FE5
FE6
FE9
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walhart is my favorite camus
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So we've finally agreed Echoes is the worst mistake the series has ever made, yeah?

Finally. I got tired of people pretending Awakening and Fates weren't amazing.
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>>182407927
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>Literally 0 (Z E R O) arguments
( L O L
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>>182408214
anon you can get a killer bow before gangrel

what the fuck are you even saying
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>>182407871
>rock paper scissors
>strategy
Lol
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>>182408269
>FE6
almost an excellent list
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>>182408113
Ike is probably in thanks to the Amiibo support, I'd say it's a safe bet to say that pretty much every Amiibo is likely a playable character.
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>Echoescucks think the Weapon's Triangle started in FE6
Atleast we know not to take them seriously.
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>>182407948
>Please refer to >>182406727
All that post does is say "Echoes has this", admits it lacks mechanics, and doesn't contest how Echoes is still inferior in those aspects when compared to Awakening other than bringing up a stupid point about Echoes shitty terrain that can be either be applied to Awakening/any FE game or is made moot by Echoes shitty +20 avoid fort tiles.

So what if Echoes has swords, it still has less swords than Awakening and is missing an entire weapon type in axes. Even with DLC, it still has less classes than Awakening does, and most of the classes in those are just the same class with more movement due to them being the tier three or four version of it.
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>>182408343
S+ reading there champ
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So how good do you guys think Berkut will be? I'm hoping he has a decent res stat.
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>>182408193

From the same page:
>has been a mainstay of the Fire Emblem series since Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War.

I don't even care that you're baiting, but if people are going to use wikis as sources, they should at least make sure to read the whole thing and look for info it should have been cited from.
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>>182408193
>The Weapon Triangle (武器の相性, Buki no Aishō lit. Compatibility of Weapons) is a tactical fighting system that has been a mainstay of the Fire Emblem series since Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War.

L I T E R A L L Y the first sentence of the page. The weapon triangle debuted in FE4
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>>182408269
>FE6

Enjoy your hallway simulator.
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>>182403827
It's Olivia and a Clarine that ate a Wrys. The fourth unit is dependent on what I'm leveling. I bring the color they're weak to with as much range as possible. So if I'm leveling a green, I bring Reinhardt to delete any pesky reds.
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>>182408285
Fuck off FEfag shill, every game in this series is a piece of shit.
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>>182408404
He's gonna be cav Tobin.
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>is an episode when someone tries to bait you by putting the bonus unit as their lead
You will not get a defense win from me pal.
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>>182408376
Can't wait to play with Shulk in Warriors before Ephraim
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>>182408404
Persona is shit
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>>182408461
Tobin's stat spread would unironically be good if he had a prf weapon and horse buffs
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>>182408285
Fuck off drill
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>>182408351
>Weapon Triangle
>even REMOTELY close to RPS in terms of severity

Hello Heroescuck
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>>182408404
I'm hoping he summons his persona, Rinea as his special attack.
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>>182408473
>baited by someones lead
how does that work? how can you be baited by a lead? dont you just click advanced regardless?
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>>182407883
>i used one of the most popular characters in the game

Wow.
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>>182408461
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>>182408404
Bercunt is shit.
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>>182408285
>>182408529


Wow >>182408058
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>>182407883
I use both Rebecca and Wil
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Camus is UNRIVALED AND INFINITE
Stupid Berkek
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>>182408518
Let me guess, it's good that Tobin doesn't have points "wasted on speed"
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>>182408389
>literally ignoring every point and screaming NUH UH
(You)
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>>182408473
>dancer in the arena

You have already lost pal
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>>182408193
>had to search for it on a wiki
>still didn't get it right
>just honed in on 'Beginning'
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>>182408214
>Confirmed for never playing
I've played Echoes and Gaiden. Unit positioning never matters in either game and the maps are worse due to being more open and the shitty terrain adding avoid to everything.

>Unless you grind a lot, you won't have a killer bow until act 4.
You can easily get the killer bow in chapter 3, and if you're going to make the argument that you don't always have the strongest weapons in each game all the time, don't bring it up when you complain about Awakening where you just use the strongest weapons.
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>>182408560
You can waste a sword and roll again for different opponents
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Saizo looks like a bird
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>>182408560
I'm not a top tier, but sometimes you might not risk it and choose Intermediate if it's your 6th/7th one in the chain.
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>>182408626
Thanks /fgo/
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>>182408715
So does Bride Caeda
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>>182408389
Most of the classes in Awakening were fucking shit
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>>182408404
40/30/26/29/29
prf 16mt, 2+ res/def when attacked
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>>182408534
You're right, it's either irrelevant fluff that only serves to make axes garbage, or overpowered bullshit that serves to make axes garbage. Either way only axes tend to get fucked over by it existing.
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>>182408184
IS made it this way purely to make doing those 15 10th stratum matches with all armor a pain in the ass.
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>>182408389
>Awakening swords
>This sword has 7 MT and has armor breaker effect
>This sword has 10 MT
>This sword has 15 MT
>This sword has 20 MT
>This sword has 10 MT and hits RES as opposed to DEF
WOW
>Echoes swords
>This sword has 7 MT
>This sword has 10 MT at cost of 1 speed
>This sword has 5 MT but does additional holy damage to wraiths
>This sword has fixed damage but hits RES as opposed to DEF
>All these swords have different skills tied to them for further variety
WOW IT HAS LESS VARIETY BECUASE THERE'S LESS OF THEM IN QUANTITY! Oh wait... no that's not right at all.

And just so that you're not confused, the MT values are made up.
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>>182407786
Selfina can use the brave bow as soon as she gets it and the brave bow is extremely good.
Just be careful with her charge skill, you can get fucked over by ballistae and siege tomes.
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>>182408704
>unit positioning doesn't matter since you have to pay attention to terrain
What was meant by this?
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Every FE game is shit.
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/feg/'s worse than usual today

post cute art of your favorite characters and say why you like them

Ishtar is gorgeous, is a rather challenging boss and wields my favorite element in battle
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>just rolled a -spd merric

Can he be saved or is he worthless
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>>182408665
>tfw I use a dancer, reinhardt, and bridelia, and have been staying in tier 20
>even if I dropped to 19 once or twice, it wouldn't change the orb reward anyway
>because any cries of BST mattering are mostly from dumb armorfags and dragonfags who are still butthurt over 1.3 revising arena scores
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>>182407883
I don't get why people say Rebecca is awful because she's not the best archer choice. She had alright growths in my last playthrough.
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>>182408627
Compare it to Xander, he's faster and has a metric ton more res while still maintaining good bulk
It's a BST thing, villager units have that advantage but they can't take advantage of meme buffs to patch up their shortcomings, but if you combine the two things you can get really good results
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>>182408752
She looks like a turd.
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>No Datamine yet

What the fuck are the dataminers thinking?
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>>182408706
yes I know that but the only reason to do that is based on points

it's literally impossible to be 'baited' by someone's lead
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>Berkek
>Bercunt
>Bercuck

What's his name?
If you say Bercute, kill yourself.
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Why does Camus look like a gorilla?
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>>182408591
I want to plow his Bercunt.
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>>182408921
Berkeley
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Should I put Fury on my Mae? She's been doing me good for the tempest trials so she has a lot of SP and I have yet to put an A skill on her.
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>>182408921
Bercaralho
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>>182408704
Unit positioning matters a lot in Echoes if you're trying to bait out archers or wall off cavalry and armors with tanky units so your mages and archers can snipe them more safely. Maybe that doesn't matter for people who actually waste time grinding, but I never had to do that.
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>>182408829
I like lin
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>>182408910
What's there to datamine? We only heard of Berkut from the official FEH twitter
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>>182408870
Because Archers are fundamentally shit in the GBA games.
If you're going to bother to main an archer, might as well have the best one to offer.
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>>182408829
Ishtar is a stupid whore
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>>182408952
As long as you have a healer to get rid of fury's attrition between maps, it's a good choice.
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>>182408872
Any mentions of cav Tobin are probably meant to include the adjustment for the cav stat loss and no longer being a villager
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>>182408910
>datamining non existant data
they're not fucking magicians
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>>182408952
Fury is a really, really bad skill for tempest trials if you don't have a healer
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>>182408921
Bercunny~
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>>182408829
Piss off, Reinhardt you useless turd.
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>>182408807
So you're admitting that echoes has less swords and thus, less variety will also ignoring how echoes is missing entire weapon types, showing you have no counter arguments. I accept your concession.
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>>182408921
Su-47 NATO reporting name "Firkin"
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>>182409039
Never speak that way about my wife ever again.
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>all these mad camusfags here
Kek 20k feathers down the drain
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>>182409039
t.: Reinhardt
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>>182408921
Bercummies
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>>182408921
BerCOCK
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>>182409049
well that just defeats the whole point now don't it
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>just slap fury on it!

This skill either needs to be nerfed, or we need some better A skills, because i'm gettin real fucking tired of this shit.
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>>182408964
I'll call him that from now on
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>>182408870
Archers are hard to use in GBA games so people complain that they were all shit and only used the strongest.
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>>182408920
If someone has an Azura or a Reinhardt as their lead I'd probably skip them, if they have Alfonse or some shit then I wont
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>>182409065
>always less than 75% hp
>cant die unless someone attacks you first or has vantage
you have no idea
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>>182408829
I liked Ishtar, but I admit I was very envious of her in game. All the best characters in game were all over her. I don't fault that person for taking inspiration from her in their Fates run.

I've always loved Eldigan myself, but he has little art, so I often post awakening or Fates characters because art for them is everywhere.

I liked Henry because of his support with Panne. His has minimal moral compass and outright offers to assassinate Chrom if it made her happy. His romantic extremism was frightening...and endearing.
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>>182409095
>yfw Berkut is just camus but with Def/Res switched
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>>182409041
>>182409065
I have a dedicated healer so I guess I'm good for fury. Many thanks.
>>
What B slot and special go well on Best Friend? Her base kit is pretty good, but I'm running low on the staple abilities so I'm not looking to fuck with her kit too much.

I'm not interested in Arena minmaxing. I'll never be that high a tier for long anyway.
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>>182408968
If you're using a tanky unit that you can just give a shield, why bother ever risking having a mage or archer go in range when that unit will die before it ever kills the tanky unit? When do you ever have to bait out archers when your tanky units can easily catch them or your mages or archers can easily kill them?
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>>182408992
Me too but Isabella is cuter
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>>182409208
Isn't there already a res-based blue cav?
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>>182409138
B-But anon! You forgot the memebow and vantage/QR!
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>>182408992
Best L_n hands down
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>>182409138
All the good A skills are limited to 5* exclusive units or are only suited for specific builds, like the ones that rely on initiation (Darting Blow, Death Blow)
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>>182409065
A desperation mage with fury and a dancer with WOM is fucking awesome.
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>he doesn't know how to make a unit without just slapping on Fury of life and death for muh minmax
Smoguncucks truly are the worst
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>>182409075
How is having million swords that only differ in damage values, save for few rare exceptions, make them more varied than all swords having unique skills and/or effects tied to them to make them all stand apart from each other?
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>>182409102
reinhardt loves ishtar and doesn't even care about dying in battle because he can't serve her anymore tho
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>>182409264
>Underestimating the power of Distant Counter built-in on weapon.
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>>182409258
>picking the worst of the clones
Even the dude is a better waifu.
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>>182409264
Peri.
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>>182409191
Here's an eldigan for you friend. There's plenty of Jugdral art. I see it more than Akaneia art, at least. (outside of shit like, whitewings)

I made Corrin based on Ishtar because she's my favorite FE female.
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>>182404326
>people who 5*'d Camus and don't want to regret it if Berkut turns out to be better
The game shits feathers on you nowadays... I don't even know who to 5* anymore.
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>>182409328
leftovers goes in all fields
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>>182409264
The god known as Jagen.
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>not using the bonus unit in TT until you reach the free 5*
>not carrying the free 5* as the bonus unit until it hits 2000 HM and then switching back to your optimal team
>not switching off to random units you want to max HM on once you've secured a top 1k spot

easiest 16-20k feathers of my life
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Is there anyone that benefits from Close Counter?
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>>182409328
Truly this. If I had any spare fodder, I'd fucking put warding blow on half of my melee units because why the fuck not. Also TT female Corrin's a pain in my ass.
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>>182409404
in the same boat, literally sitting 55k feathers because I dont know who to 5*
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>>182409148
Archers were fine in FE6 because of all the goddamn wyverns, Blazing didn't have anywhere near as many flying threats and ballistae were rare, weak, and super limited in ammo, so infantry archers were kind of crap there. In SS your choices were using Neimi or making Gerik a ranger, so archers were pretty much nonexistant for the most part, though gargoyles and mogalls were annoying enough on some maps to at least warrant deploying her for dealing with them.
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>>182409397
Why is Eldigan too small for his own clothes in your picture?
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>>182409328
Yes, but what item do I give to my Timid Linde? (^:
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>>182409451
boey, merric
your wife
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>>182409451
Merric, Boey, Sophia, Henry
Bulky mages in general
>>182409525
Choice specs :^)
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>>182409521
>there are people ITT who don't want to fuck that qt 3.14 on the far left aptly named Le Cheese Sis
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How do I make Faye good?
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Post your face when bearcuck is a Cav Archer
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>>182409521
I dunno. I just save almost all FE art I come across.
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>>182409525
Choice scarf
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>>182409521
Why are his hands so yuge
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>>182404615
I have 5 (five) 4* (four star) Marths. No 5*s. No 3*s.
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>>182409525
Choice Specs or bust.

But seriously, I hope they implement useless accessories soon, killing rare units for their weapons is too much of a luxary for me to deal with.
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>>182409626
I don't want to catch a disease.
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>>182409525
death orb
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>>182409521
His pixels are so inconsistent all his art tends to make him extreme prettyboi or strongfaced adonis with little flexibility. I appreciate the gift, I can't be picky about my husbando!
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>>182409332
How is your continued goal post changing failing to address Echoes having less weapon variety because of missing entire weapon types and your own admission of the game having less weapons of one type not an objective admission of concession? Oh wait, it is.

And if you're going to bring up unique skills per weapon, why not also check the unique usage per weapon of items in awakening, or how there are more weapons that will boost your stats, hit, crit, etc. to a more varied degree?
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>>182409626
>marrying the biggest whore on Jugdral 2nd to Deirdre
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>>182409491
The archers in Blazing were strong just as they were. They struggled earlygame because of low accuracy, but ramped up quickly got anyone who bothered to feed them the xp they needed. It's just that most FE players seem to approach units with the attitude that if it doesn't perform well out of the box, it's shit. If an archer in Blazing fell behind on xp, its accuracy would always be too low relative to the enemy's evasion and they'd become deadweight, which is what I assume most consigned their poor Wils and Rebeccas to.
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Why do Corrin/Robinsexuals even exist.
How fucking hard would it kill them to write a few supports for at least certain main characters
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>not 5*
>+spd -def
Fuck it, this is fine
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>>182409653
By using her meme build.
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>>182409362
Agreed. Caulder is the best waifu
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>>182409521
Wait I thought Olwen was thundercocks sister, not his daughter
And why the fuck is Julia with Seliph
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>>182409664
To love Le Cheese Sis that much more.
Bigger the hand bigger the love.
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>>182409763
I would invest on her
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>>182408992
That's my wife
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>>182409664
he's got yaoi hands

cursed fujo emblem
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>>182409653
Make her a cleric
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>>182409763
Now you can get SP efficiently, no reason to complain my dude.
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>>182409763
Literally her best IV spread.
>>
Reminder that based Zihark is the canon wielder of Alondite
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>>182409763
>tfw my first hero was 4 star Nino

God she's does her best so damn well
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Florina is bad yes? do not use Florina?
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>>182409743
Except it doesn't you idiot
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>>182409872
ACKSHUALLY her best iv is +spd -hp but his Nino is good as fuck.
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>hero hits 2,000HM
discarded
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>>182409913
she has more str than fiora

invest on her a bi and see if she turns out well, if not bench
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There isn't really a reason to care about who you 5* anymore. This isn't 2 months ago where feathers were nearly impossible to get. Between Quests, HM farming, Chain Challenges, Arena and Gauntlets, you can 5* at least 2-3 within a month if you save them and time it right.
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>>182409913
florina can be good but needs the exp from lyn mode
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>>182409763
>Not *5
>+atk -spd
Fuck it, this is fine.
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>>182409743

Because there's no point to using any weapon besides the ones with the best stats in Awakening, at least there are situations in Echoes where you might want to switch to an iron for Windsweep or Silver for muting mages even if other options are better for flat damage.
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>>182409913
You either get a good Florina or a bad Florina. She's good either way in the prologue and you can just pick up Fiora or some jew later if she falls off.
If you're playing Heroes it's always a bad Florina.
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>>182409743
>muh no axes!
Fuck off retard. You were already btfo in that point
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>>182409926
I want to preform conversation training with Sakura

So she can talk her way out being shittier than Elise
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>>182409521
Why is Eldigan wearing heals?
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Yay or nay?
Tired of smogon kits so wanna test out some new stuff, I guess he could be a certified mage buster
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A reminder to Royfags and Almfags that Ike is the STRONGEST Lord.
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>>182409913

great for darting blow and ardent sac

darting blow is incredibly underrated as a cheap alternative for the usual suspects on tha A slot
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>>182410059
do it.
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>>182409926
I want to go to loli jail
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>>182409843
Not complaining just wanted 5* to save feathers. My -atk +spd 4* Nino already has all the skills she needs + 1400 sp so I don't need more.
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>>182409926
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>>182409745
The biggest whore is Sylvia. She'll literally fuck anything. Deirdre was brainwashed and Lachesis was loyal to her two husbandos.
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>>182410041
He's a manlet
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>>182409950
-HP can't take thundercock after a res buff
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>>182409950
the -HP gets her killed by thundercock. Not even a +4 res buff will let her live through his attack. Having her be -def is better.
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>>182410059
Sure why not. Post results.
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>>182410059
It's not exactly a rare or valuable skill so go for it.
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So can anyone tell me what makes FE6 a good game? I've played every FE released officially in English plus FE4, and I'm tackling FE6 now, and damn has it felt like garbage so far.

Between reinforcements spawning inside my anus and tap dancing on my back line's spine, Roy's incompetence, map design seemingly based entirely around moving from chokepoint to chokepoint, and that hit rates don't seem to actually mean anything, I just don't see anything this game does right.
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>>182410041
It's rather common boots horse-riders wear, atleast from videos I watch. It's pretty neat. I like horses.
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>>182409926
Justine a shit, Caroline is superior.
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What's the difference between Bash Assault and Desperation?

They both sound similar
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>>182410110
Doing her best
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*blocks your path*
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>>182410059
+10 res on initiation, but Jeorge's mediocre speed and normal res means he can't bait very well, and can't one round a lot of things.
Worth a shot at least.
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STOP TALKING ABOUT ECHOES
JUST FUCKING STOP
THE JOKE IS GETTING OLD

NO
ONE
FUCKING
LIKES
IT

LET THIS FUCKING MEME END
NO ONE HERE IS DRILL
YOUR GAME IS SHIT AND EVERYONE HAS MOVED ON
QUIT PRETENDING OTHERWISE
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Anyone else finished their quests?

I think that Subaki distant counter was the only one that surprised me. Had to swap out a unit for summer Tiki to take care of him.

Everything else is fury/vantage counter which is disappointing.
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>>182410209
I want to know this too.
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>>182410209
BA is BAd, it lets you double when your HP is low, if you don't die
Desp lets your double attacks hit before the enemy can react, if you're fast enough to have a double on them already
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>>182410235
>Echoescuck falseflagging
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>>182407883
Please
I use Shanna and Raigh
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>>182410235
>>182410283

Hi Drill
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>>182410209

brash assault is like quick reposte except it only works at low health
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Is Anankos the villain with the worst execution in the series?
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>>182410209
Brash assault lets you double even if you're slower, Desperation let's you hit twice if you're fast enough.
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>>182410235
I like Echoes. I recognize its poor design choices, but I enjoy it for what it is
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>>182410231
Why do thrones give defense anyway
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Why do people like tutorial lord?
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>>182410041
Heels, unlike today, weren't a feminine thing back then. Interestingly enough.
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>>182410235
>>182410283
>>182410304
I want this dumb bait meme to die
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>>182410270
You can put alfonse with BA and defiant defense to wreck all things physical.
It's pretty much shit with everyone else.
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>>182410072
I'm pretty sure all the power level fags have moved to Reddit.
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>>182410313
*twice in a row
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>>182410209
>>182410256

Brash Assault guarantees a second attack no matter what if your HP is low and you survive
Attack > Enemy > Attack
Desperation lets you double at a certain percentage if you outspeed the enemy before they attack
Attack > Attack > Enemy
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>>182410372
Baby's first waifu
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>>182410209
dumb princess
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>>182410372
They don't actually, and just wanted someone to rally behind to defeat the Lucina menace.
They cried out in defeat at the realization that banners have 4 units
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>>182410312
His problem is that literally all of his development is DLC. With it he's passable. It's still disgusting that it's all DLC, it would be like selling all of Kishauna's levels and 18xx as DLC if you want ot learn anything about Nergal
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>Get to hear more Ian Sinclair
I am so ready
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>>182410424
>lucinashit STILL mad
Hahaha wow
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>>182410454
Ian Shitclair
>>
Real talk

Honestly I really liked echoes but the constant shitposting here has incentivised me to join in

The Shitposters won't leave, so I can at least drive out everyone who likes it so I don't have to deal with constant arguing and maybe one day I'll start liking Fates and awakening so I can like the franchise like they do
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>>182410435
>Implying they won't do that for the remake
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>>182410312
probably, which is unfortunate, cause i think he had potential that was squandered by shitty dlc practices and the shoehorned awakening trio
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Are they ever going to give out more light's blessings? I want to grow my collection. 34 isn't enough.
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>>182408830
all you had to say was merric for me to know he's worthless
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>>182410419
please do not bulle le fanrir wife
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>>182410319
Artificial difficulty.
>>182410372
Boobs and 1st lord bias.
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>>182410372
Everytime she looks at the screen to address it creeps me out. I always expect her to one day say my real name
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>>182410083
>>182410158
>>182410178
>>182410232
Thanks, done.
Now to train him up. He has seal atk by default which is really nice in conjunction with the +10 res, but should I consider seal speed instead?
Also, he's +SPD/-atk unfortunately. Hits 35 speed at lv40
>>
UNCLEEE
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>>182410318
I wish everyone could just agree on this

>>182410520
you can bully with love ok. I love Arianna
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>>182410482
What a victim complex, you didn't even read the word "menace" before you made your worthless shitpost
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>>182410489
>implying lyn's story and hector's story won't be DLC
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>>182410486
Ya man that's totally worth it. As if it isn't 1-4 people talking to themselves
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>>182410592
Useless post.
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Fuck you, echoes is shit, kill yourself
>>
The whole idea of Brash Assault is stupid. If you are already low on HP, why would you attack someone, AND EAT A COUNTER-ATTACK which will more than likely kill you before you can get in your follow-up hit?
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>>182408829
Ishtar GHB when?
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>>182410641
meant for >>182410482
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>>182410489
They won't, but they will make a flashback paralogue where you play as Nergal who gets to watch his wife be murdered by the human army
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>>182410652
Need a safe space?
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>>182410652
Not really.
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Pray for me guys. I need Tiki.
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>>182405079
Agree completely. Almost any weapon had a use at any point in the game.
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>>182410683
The Heroes team also gave us Obstruct as a B skill, so it's quite clear that they didn't care
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>>182410687
never because according to /feg/ IS hates everything pre FE13
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>No response.

Heh I thought so.
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>>182410745
Doing her best
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>>182410683
Low speed high defense units, you shouldn't be shoving it on Fir
Like a Brave Axe Fury Bartre can do a bit with it, and so can Def. Defense Shelf
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>>182410372
Because she's cute, has sick crits, and is generally a nice person and strong character.
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>>182410652
It's okay, we know mommy wouldn't let you buy Echoes for your birthday so that's why you're mad at people for enjoying it.
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Post your first rolls.
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>>182410810
What ugly art
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>>182410318
It's basically mimicking Gaiden and became too faithful to it's outdated gimmicks and wide open maps. The only thing that was done wrong was the DLC practices.
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>>182410798
what is a defense defense shelf
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>>182410454
UUUUNNNNNNCLLLLLLLLEEEEEE
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>>182410683
It's better than it reads on paper.
You put it on units like eldigan with fuckhuge defense and watch them go to town on any melee unit.
Like seriously, with like 40 def, not much can dent him, so brash assault is brutal
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>>182410883
ask your local ikea
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>>182410683
That's why combine Brash Assault with Desperation
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>>182410773
Where do you live Anon? I want to beat you.
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>>182410965
kek
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>>182410881
Feel free to post your own
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>>182410931
Any unit that would use BA is better using QR since it has first-turn consistency instead of needing setup for the same thing.
Except Lyn, but honestly
>Lyn
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>>182410965
Your fault, anon. The unofficially official rule of /feg/'s summoning blessings is to always pick the bottom right.
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>>182410965
WEW

>>182411001
something something rotten tomato
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>>182410493
Yeah, I feel the same way. It's a shame, because he probably has one of the coolest final boss fights in the series as well.
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>>182410873
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>>182410965
Aaaah, that got me for a few minutes
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>>182408829
This is Yumina.
She's the absoloute peak of Fire Emblem staff using blonde princesses. She has really nice spritework in FE3, which is good because I played it in Japanese first, and twins are great! She's a good candidate for either Again or Starlight.
>>
Which FE girls are THICC
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>>182411027
True in some instances, but it can be deadly, just know that.
And imo it's better on eldigan and shit like seliph because no DC weapons
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>>182410953
They are both B skills. Only Lyn can manage that due to built in Desperation weapon.
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>>182410873

I'm guessing I've sacrificed a number of them or sent them home. My first 5* didn't come for a while.
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Remember to congratulate Kiria on her birthday.
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>>182410873
Got my loli wife without having to reroll
Didn't know about IVs at the time, but she's +Spd -Def and I'm very okay with that
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>>182411084
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Forests now give the same bonuses as defense tiles. How does the meta change?
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>>182411074
So are you MK404, are you Raymond?
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>>182410873
Most people here are re-roll faggots, so first rolls aren't really that impressive.
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>>182411064
rerolled long ago for Marth. I don't remember which ghb it was, but I have all ghb heroes now.
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>>182411084
Oliver
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>>182410632
No, I'm not the guy arguing about weapon diversity because he's retarded but a good deal of the shitposting here is just me

Everyone unanimously hating it is better than me constantly being disappointed in you all, because at least if there's a consensus I can accept I'm wrong for liking it and move on
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>>182411185
s-source?
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>>182410435
For how much people bitch about SoV's DLC model I honestly find Fates' to be a thousand times scummier.

Like at least SoV stood on it's own two feet without constantly going "DUDE BUY DLC TO GET THE FULL STORY LMAO" whenever it could.
>>
>>182411185
Keep going!
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>>182411231
So they say. I don't think it's true, though!
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>>182411283
>>182411302
Sorry friends, that's all I got.
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>>182411283
it's on gelbooru
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>>182410873
>2 star Raigh
Heh. Same.
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>>182411084
Rinea
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>>182411185
You can tell who drawn this never played the game before.
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>>182411327
Anon please. Don't do this to me.
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>>182411152
>Oh she looks cut-
>Turns into ugly Tharja Clone in her transformation
Tokyo Mirage was a mistake.
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>>182411273
>implying that will work

People won't leave or be swayed just because someone is screaming "KYS the thing you like is shit" that's just par for the course on 4chan.
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>>182410183
Really, it's not.

They didn't know how to balance it so it's clearly not balanced at all. I hate to say it, but the localization patch has a connected numbers patch that scales like FE7 with all the changes made from 7.
>>
I'll do whatever I'm paid to
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>>182411287
Fates gives you an entire extra game for 15 dollars, plus in game bonuses on every route if you choose to repay them, heirs of fate is very good as well.

Echoes DLC makes you play more of echoes, and only oldfags who hate nufe like that game. I one time fell asleep during it the game is so dull.
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>>182410873
3* Lonk, 4* Ogma, 4* Est, 3* Nino (now 5*( and 3* Gunter (now 4*). Didn't know anything about rerolling at the time, and wasn't on a rooted device. I rolled a Raven as my first 5* and didn't get another one until after the Narcian GBH (Roy).
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>>182411432
>>Turns into ugly Tharja Clone in her transformation
What kind of vision do you have.
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>>182411185
Not really.
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>>182411538
I knew someone referencing something Fates did better would trigger Drill
>>
>>182411074
I think she saves a lot of turns in LTC runs because of rescue, even though those turns are just speeding Marth to the throne.

I don't think she's actually a 'good' candidate for starlight or again, since you'll have several other better bishops, but she's usable.
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>>182405286
>rather listen to sales than their own fans
Two things.
1) this is what literally every business in the world does
2) how do you define a "fan" other than "someone who purchases your product"?
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Man this nigga Kent is absolutely killing it. I hope the R&G knights actually stay good in this game
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Archanea/Ylisse=Kanto
Valentia/Valm=Johto
Elibe/Magvel=Hoenn
Hoshido/Nohr=Sinnoh
Tellius=Unova
Jugdral=Kalos
Askr/Embla=Alola

Remimder
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>>182410873
>I 5*'d that Raigh
Kill me
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>>182410683
Wowwwww it's so fucking useless holy shit
How about think about use cases for a fucking second
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>>182411538
>Fates gives you an entire extra game for 15 dollars

20 dollars, 40 for both paths you don't have, which is needed to understand some of the plot points in the other two paths.

Plus additional DLC to give context as to what the fuck the Awakening kids are doing there and for Anankos to have absolutely any characterization or backstory at all.

Again, Echoes did all of this by itself without any DLC.
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>>182411704
U wot m8
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>>182411696
Sain >>> Kent
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I thought I would be happy that the stupid fates version wars narrative was gone since echoes arrived, but now "drill" is coming up with over 50 results
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>>182411696
Blazing Blade always turns into a paladin fuckfest near the end. All the horses are great, except Isadora, who's still just okay at worst.
Sain a best though
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>>182411538
And that extra game is total dogshit
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>>182410873
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>>182411791
Gel
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I regret not going for Quickened Pulse but being able to only grind 180 points or so was absolute suffering and I gave up at 6k points or whatever it was to get the Masked Marth. I even regret not getting the Breath of Life 1 seal.

Still, what could I do? I didn't have more than one decent team, and point generation was shit.

So when that Tempest ended I worked on raising up more characters than just my main team. Now I can reliably get 422 points per run, which is respectable. I can clear a harder run, but not as reliably and not nearly as quickly. The secret is taking on the Hard 5 map. My first team is my A team. My second team is B team with the fourth character as a 40% bonus character (Mae) who I luckily just received. Otherwise I'd just get 20% bonus. On the last map, I leave one enemy alive at low HP, then I surrender and bring in B team who cleans up and gives me 40% bonus. Sure I lose bonus on survivability from 1.2 to 1.15 but those are only a few points in exchange for a really easy and fast run.

The Tempest updates have been the best fucking thing ever.
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>>182411791
One of the only non-shit characters in awakening, surprisingly.
No seriously, she's the only one without some stupid cliche personality.

Also, death blow 2+warding blow 2 WHEN?
And what would it be called
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>>182411783
Lowen>Professional motherfuckers
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>>182411435
Yeah, but I can ruin it for them like it's been ruined for me

Explain how that logic is flawed I goddamn dare you
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>>182411538
It was more than 15, shill.

Also, the Deliverance DLC maps were great.
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>>182411816
I don't even know who this Drill person is but everyone I disagree with the public /feg/ consensus you are called it. Does it mean "Drill" as in "drilling" a headache with your opinion or?
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>>182410183
Better map design then the other GBA FE games and similar in most other respects = better than other GBA FE games
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>>182411451
Yeah, I haven't gotten around to Thracia to see how well it bridges the gap, but FE6 seems like a bit of a step back from FE4's design.
Even though 4 had a lot of problems, it was genuinely fun for me, and its level design never felt unfair like wyvern reinforcements can.
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>>182411747
Because there is nothing to explain in Echoes. It is fantasy story #122220000000 you know the entire plot from like 3 chapters in. The gameplay is so boring and mindless it is almost insulting.
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>>182411845
I have it and I hardly even use it. Plus it only works once per battle anyway.
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>>182411902
>hates men
>not a cliché personality

????
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>>182411645
I shoud have been clearler, I mean in Heroes she has the potential to show up with it. She has something that Yubello, Gotoh and Wendell has (an additional Y chromosone) and Lena is THE cleric, so she'll 100% be a staff user. I think only Elice really has a chance of having it over her, and she doesn't have the benefit of being in the player's party for an entire game. Worst could come to worst, and then no-one at all could come with it, cucking me out of my favourite tome in Fire Emblem.
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Post your sorting options and r8.
>1 Favorite
>2 Level
>3 Rarity
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>>182411974
This is hilarious coming from a Fatescuck
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>>182411737
Doesn't change the fact it's dogshit. QR is a straight improvement over BA.
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What if the next fire emblem consisted of characters with good personalities and the story was solid?
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>>182408821
Thank you. I don't know why critics suck off this series while better games like MMBN (excluding 4) get shat on.
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>Leo's crazy res and quick riposte make him fantastic at baiting non-blue mages
>make the other half of his kit, brynhildr and savage blow, on initiation effects

for what purpose
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>>182411953
What do you think made FE6's map design better that 7 or 8's?
The maps seem very linear so far, with enemies just waiting behind chokepoints, then rushing out of the choke anyway and defeating the purpose of having a chokepoint in the first place.
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>>182412057

literally just the same as posting without filters you mongole
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>>182411907
Because revenge is stupid?
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>>182411823
Still an extra game. You get a lot of content for what you pay for. More then most DLC out there.
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>>182412038
Are you telling me Yumina is XYY
good lord
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>>182412082
So Echoes?
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>>182411974
Echoes gives context to everything. It gives context to motivations for every antagonist, Duma's backstory, the entire conflict around the gods, heck it even has a name for the continent. It also has the restraint to have characters die without going "BUY DLC SO I CAN LIVE" like Fates did multiple times throughout both Birthright and Conquest.

Fates has none of these things without DLC, and only some of them with it.

Sorry you don't like this truth, but Fates is much more scummy with it's DLC and storytelling than Echoes is.
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>>182411934
Try to be less obvious next time drill.
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>>182411907
I've seen every game in the series get shit on at some point, and that hasn't ruined my enjoyment of any of them, or scared me away from this hellhole. Your problem might just be your own.
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>>182412158

(LOL
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>>182412073
Some people benefit from staying at low HP
And without a healslut or sustain, will not remain at top HP

Think on these things
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>>182412082
You mean Echoes?
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>>182412198
You've made me chuckle in my coffee, nicely done.
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>>182412160
I don't know a lot about girls, anon. I meant two X chromosones!
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>>182412082
So Echoes?
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>>182411737
I love how cute it is when Seliph anons keeps trying to prove something with a screencap of what might be his only victory over another sword user
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>>182411185
Not thicc. Just plain sexy.
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>>182411907
>this place is bad so I'll make it worse
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>>182410486
why do people just assume that everyone who criticizes echoes is a fates/awakeningfag
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Where the fuck is my shitty Takumi that I can feed to Leo?
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What b skill should I give to srobin, swordbreaker?
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>>182410183
I just got to chapter 9 in and I'm liking it. The only thing I don't like besides the obvious one of Roy being shit is how I have to waste a slot on Merlinus if I want to use the convoy.
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>>182412195
SHUT UP

IT'S SHIT ECHOES DID EVERYTHING WORSE THAN FATES JUST ACCEPT IT YOU FUCKING GRANDPA NO WAIFU NO BAIFU KILL YOURSELF ALREADY FUCK
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>>182412128
There's some cool chapters later on, especially gaiden chapters.
And the early game chapters just feel more interesting then the other games, enemy positions and stats encourage more tactical play on hard mode (you don't ORKO everything). FE6 Marcus is the best balanced Jeigan.
Compare chapter 4? with the same map from FE7, I think the FE6 version is a lot more fun to play.
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>>182412195
Fates story telling gave me a laugh. Echoes is boring as all hell. Not a single interesting character because they don't have character, or they need DLC to get it. That is more offensive to me then Echoes telling the same story everyone has heard a million times before. You are saying you pay money to give characters character, that is fucking pathetic.

Oh, that isn't getting into the gameplay. Fates had fun gameplay for how bad the story is. Echoes gameplay is somehow more boring then the story, something that shouldn't be possible but it is.

But that is ok. Defend your shit game that you have to convince yourself is good because you hate nufe so much.
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>>182411791
most underrated girl
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>>182412474
>Leo
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>>182412109
That what SI is for
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>>182411934
There is no public /feg/ consensus, aside from the fact that you're terrible at getting your point across convincingly. Also I'm pretty sure they're referring to some tripfag named Drill Remover who frequents /v/ or something, but never cared enough to confirm or deny it since most people who use that name contribute nothing regardless.
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>>182412464
Because its convenient. Most shitposters are grandpa falseflaggers anyway.
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>>182412531
Are you the originator of that copypasta about Fates' story being great because it's terribleness is memorable?
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Neutral Palla or +atk -res? Also is she a good user of Goad Fliers or should she pass it on to someone else?
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>My horse unit has 45 defense
>Enemy archer has 40 attack
>And darting blow
>No skill on enemy unit to boost their damage
>No enemies around to spur the archer
>Somehow 7x2s my Xander and finishes him off
WHAT THE FUCK?
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>>182412464
Probably because they're a large chunk of the fanbase that refuses to play it because they know they won't like it?
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Not so tough anymore.
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>All starters have more BST than usual infantry units.
>Alf for some reason have 2 less bst than Anna or Sharena.

Why?
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>>182412531
Go away drill
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>>182412258
>>182412340
>>182412161
>Echoes
>Good story
>Good characters

You only think the characters are good because you like the voices. Read the text and they are more flat then paper.
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>>182412637
and how do you know that?
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>>182412692
good thing this isn't a novel without voice acting.
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>>182412531
>You are saying you pay money to give characters character, that is fucking pathetic

To hear this coming from a Fatescuck is fucking hilarious

You literally need to pay extra money for your shit game to have a coherent story at all and you're accusing Echoes of being pathetic for having DLC conversations that basically are just retelling past events and showing how characters came into thinking how they clearly express they do during the story

Please, keep going, I'm curious how far down the retard hole you're going to go with this


>Fates story telling gave me a laugh. Echoes is boring as all hell.
>Fates is worse, making it better
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>>182412626
Get a shitty Palla to pass Goad Fliers to someone else and keep the +atk/-res.
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>>182412692
*upvoted *
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Whats the best AEO special?
>they're all bad
sure, I know, but which is the best, I want to use one.
I figure they could be funny on archers with savage blow and maybe clarisse's bow.
I know rising flame is the horizontal one, what about the others?
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>>182412686
he doesn't want you to make him cheat on his waifu, the bench
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>>182412135
If everyone else is shitty then there's clearly a good reason for it. Ergo, when in Rome.

>>182412204
No, getting shit on is different than literal double-think levels of "Bad is good, good is bad" that happens with discussion of echoes here. I mean what the fuck where did it come from? The majority of it has to be shitposting because none of the fucking arguments hold up but people continue just to be retarded.

Oh, and the worst part? No echoes fans actually argue the points at all. They just deflect to >drill every fucking time

So no, there's clearly a problem here. There are two sides, and the echoes one is the one that refuses to dialogue so I'm clearly wrong for liking it because that makes me just like them and therefore I need to fix my mistake by driving them out and being like everyone else here. So I don't have to constantly think I can be honestly have the pleasure of being excited that the best antagonist on the fucking 3DS got added to heroes without someone shitting in my fucking cereal and making me question my beliefs every goddamn second
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>>182411816
>>182411934
If you want to post on /feg/ you need to learn how to ignore posts. Any post accusing someone of being "drill" or containing various other keywords (accusing someone of "reddit", "cuck", (lol, etc) is a shitpost. If you question a shitpost that only incites them and makes /feg/ worse, so just ignore them.
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>There is no public /feg/ consensus, aside from the fact that you're terrible at getting your point across convincingly.
Someone called it a boogeyman and I think that's the best term for it. This thread has 50 posters, not counting cellphones or seperate wifi connections so many 30, and there are parties in this thread obessed with one person, going so far as to assign him a name and seek them out in every post.
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>>182412779
one of the wind ones http://feheroes.gamepedia.com/Specials
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Fire Emblem never had deep characters aside from two or three exceptions per game.
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>>182412750
That's what I was thinking, keeping one and using the other to give Goad to someone else. I suppose with her Ruby sword she won't have problems tanking green mages even if -res?
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>>182412692
Clive has more character to him than the entire Fates cast put together.

Sorry he's not le ebin wacky anime trope for you to keep entertained in the same way jingling keys in front of your face would.
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>>182412779
Probably the Flame one, it covers a pretty big area
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>>182406071
julia cucked me of hag tiki summer edition but its not bad -hp +res so its usable.
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>>182412607
No, I think Fates story is horrible. I got a laugh from it, more like it was such a trainwreck to me that I couldn't look away.

At least I was interested what stupid thing Fates did next. Echoes is just boring, to me that is worse then a bad story.

Again, Fates story is not so good it is bad case. It is just bad, to me a bad story is better then a generic thing.

If it wasn't for Echoes haters would you ever talk about it? Do you ever want to replay Echoes again? Chances are probably not.
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I legitimately enjoyed Fates plot more than Echoes.

Echoes is just so fucking BORING. It's inoffensively bland in both characters and plot, the Jay Leno of video game plots. It's so riddled with cliches I felt like I was reading a high school fiction textbook, and it plays everything one of them straight. "Farmboy who turns out to be a prince teams up with a ragtag group of heroes to fight an ancient evil." COMPLETELY STRAIGHT. No twists or even attempts at a twist, the entire plot goes from A to B in 30 hours with nothing in between.

Alm and Celica are both so incredibly boring and inoffensive I fell asleep reading their dialogue. Alm is the bog-standard "good" protagonist, like Roy and Eliwood except he's actually MORE boring, seriously I can't think of ANYTHING noteworthy about his personality. Celica only fares slightly better. Both of them have been justifiably compared to Gary/Mary Stus.

Fates writing was at least interesting. It tried to do something innovative and failed spectacularly, but it was glorious to watch.
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Why does drill get defensive when called out
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>>182412527
>Compare chapter 4? with the same map from FE7, I think the FE6 version is a lot more fun to play.
I know the chapter you're talking about, and I have a serious bias against it because I had to restart about half a dozen times when Rutger and his entourage would invariably spawn and murder someone because for some reason I always thought he spawned farther west than he does.

I can't speak for very late game chapters, but I'm on chapter 11 and none of the maps have struck me as particularly well designed .None of them have been Gaiden bad, but they've seemed aggressively bland to me.

>>182412496
Yeah, I gave up on bringing Merlinus after I found out that you can still send items to him when he isn't on the map, so he's only necessary when you want to withdraw items
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>>182412808
are you really mad because shitposters keep saying berkut sucks or something

really man

that's why you shit up the thread even more?
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>>182412580
>Most shitposters are people who were here before you and love a series more than you do

Okay.

>>182412692
???

Lol I pay attention to the story. Voices are just a cool bonus. Sure it wasn't the greatest ever but it's still good and a far cry from Shadow Dragon, Awakening, and Fates.

>>182412706
Probably because people buy what they know they want? Awakening/Fates fags just wanted a waifu simulator with no depth and casual gameplay. Why would they play something that made the series actually great? Sure some will but it's mostly an oldfag game.
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>>182412939
the gospel truth
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>>182412109
>for what purpose

So he can both bait and blow up.
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>>182412808
>No echoes fans actually argue the points at all

See;

>>182412747
>>182412195
>>182411747
>>182411287

Just because you can't refute it doesn't mean it's not an argument
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>>182412490
pls help
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>>182412975
>>182412975
>>182412975
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>>182412838
Growing or blazing?
>>182412915
Growing flame seems alright, but not blazing
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>>182412808
I actually feel sorry for your parents, please leave /feg/ and focus on anything else in life.
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>>182412967
So you can read minds or something?

A lot of newfags got into the series and liked other features, I say that because I liked Awakening not for the dating sim aspect but the whole idea of FE, and now I've played all the games bar RD

sounds like bullshit, dude
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>>182412407
I mean I have more
Or you can keep denying actual fact
Keep using exclusively Meta units and Fury and LnD on literally everything you braindead bunny
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>>182412939
>I come to a thread and post about a game series I don't like and don't think is good

Anon I think you might have the tism
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>>182412851
>Tibarn

>Deep

>only 3

wew
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>>182412967
Love isn't assaulting everyone who tries to join you or just like different features, then wishing the series dead because it isn't what it was years ago. That stupidity and immaturity, I say this as a "grandpa"
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>>182413090
but its true

fe is a horrible srpg

sakura wars is better
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>>182412803
Alf miss a lot of of ORKO because of those points, if he had like 36 or 38 atk he could be a lot better.
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>>182412938
>It tried to do something innovative

It's literally the Leonster/Thracia conflict from the Jugdral games except done ten times as shitty. There is absolutely nothing "innovative" about the plot of Fates unless you're an Awakeningbabby.
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>>182412967
>Awakening/Fates fags just wanted a waifu simulator with no depth and casual gameplay
Lmao, are you being serious right now
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>>182413084

wow he has such thin, girly thighs
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>>182412464
Because they've said as such. Everyone fucking here is saying g the same thing. Go to reddit. Go to Facebook. Go to YouTube.

Echoes never stood a chance.

>>182412432
Yes, and? I'm trying to purge dissension. If you like Echoes you clearly aren't welcome here...or anywhere really. I'm trying to end the conflict and bury echoes already.
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>>182412779
The blazing ones do passable damage, the growing ones only do base attack so they're pretty weak if you're not running something on a buff heavy team. It's also important to note that since AoE do their damage BEFORE combat starts, they're unaffected by combat bonuses like spurs and deathblow, so only stat padding A skills like Life & Death and Flier/Cavalry buffs actually work towards getting meaningful damage out of them.

While blade tomes users ARE buff reliant and use the highest mt weapon short of a legendary tome, the extra charge times makes those specials difficult to use outside of Tempest Trial marathons. Michalis and Eldigan running QR are probably the best users of those kinds of attacks actually, since they come with a high damage killer weapon, can make use of powerful offensive buffing, and often run QR to charge their shit quickly. It's no wonder both of them come with one.
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>>182413152
isn't sakura wars THE waifufag game though
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>>182413152
Again

>I come to a thread and post about a game series I don't like and don't think is good

Anon I think you might have the tism
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I've had this girly dude on my barracks for some months now.

Am supposed to use him for something?
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>>182412853
If she keeps the Ruby Sword she will survive at green mage+ dancer at the exception of Merric.
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>>182413303
shining force is better
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>>182413019
Oh, I thought Blazing Flame would cover that massive area but I guess that would make it way better than the others.
In that case, I recommend Blazing Wind, you can get it from a Navarre if you have a spare one.
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>>182413084

Post your Softboy's status screen please. I want to see your monster's build.
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>>182412747
Why do you assume I am a Fates fan? I think they handled DLC better and I liked the gameplay of it.

I don't know what point you are even trying to make here? Not all the Fates characters had good character, a lot are somewhat annoying, but come on, even the musexuals have more character then most of Echoes characters. Oh all of that is without DLC. I am not saying you have to LIKE the characters, but fuck, at least they have some?

I will admit it comes to opinion on this point: I would prefer a bad story that I can get a chuckle at then a story you know the entirety of it from the start.

But you will dismiss all that with fatescuck and drill and other shit.
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>>182413349
no it's not
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>>182413360
>, even the musexuals have more character then most of Echoes characters.
STOP

STOOOOOOOPP

THIS BOARD CANT TAKE THIS MUCH SHITPOSTING
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>>182413304
that's a +atk/-res girlboy

not sure you can meme with him
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>>182412998
Fury+QR
Always works on balanced stats characters
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>>182413304
Inherit defiant def and either ignis or bonfire.
Plant him on a defense tile and watch him work.
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>>182413058
No but I can make obvious observations.

>>182413148
Good thing I'm not a part of that then. I just won't acknowledge Fates or Awakening or SD as good and I won't assume that people who want that, want what I do.

>>182413202
It's not what they thought they want, but it's what they want subconsciously. I've done it before where I've liked black sheep of a series simply because I wanted something different out of it meanwhile I'm thinking I'm a real fan.

Like Devil May Cry 2.
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>>182412870
No he doesn't, he doesn't even have more then Flora, a musexual. Plus he is just ugly, I mean holy shit, even Garon is more attractive.
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>>182413360
>Why do you assume I am a Fates fan

Are you fucking serious

>I think they handled DLC better

And you're wrong, as has been proven by now

>I don't know what point you are even trying to make here

That Fates story is not only far worse than Echoes but also handles DLC way worse

It's not a hard point to get if you're not a deluded Awakening/Fatesbabby

>but come on, even the musexuals have more character then most of Echoes characters

Good joke

In fact SoV's characters have personal conflict and dilemmas they have to deal with, and this is expressed clearly time and time again in their supports, story dialogue, and base conversations

You only don't think they have character because they're not in your face modern anime tropes like you liked in Awakening and Fates

>I will admit it comes to opinion on this point

And your opinion is fucking retarded

>I prefer things to be shit rather than good because I can laugh at it

This is literally your opinion on this matter
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>>182413556
>I just won't acknowledge Fates or Awakening or SD as good
That's actually pretty reasonable. Good on you.
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>>182413584
seriously the thread's dead, you can stop now
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>>182413384
langrisser is better
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>>182412998
A Sweep skill with phantomspeed.
Now everything up to 38 spd can't retaliate
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>>182413209
They're soft
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>>182413665
desu I still dont even know what skills it affects is it just the sweep skills?
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>>182413304
Great for a brave build. Alternatively, making THE defense build

Not as effective when -def
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>>182413467
Can't even make a counterpoint, I guess I am right. I will still wait for you to name more then 3 characters more interesting then fates musexuals.
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>>182413265
Fuck off, you Echoes haters aren't allowed among true patricians!

You are the true cause of dissension! You are a traitor to both the series and to this community!
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>>182413584
>NUH UH

Literally not an argument

Clive had to come to terms with his own weaknesses and inadequacies many times throughout the story, and how the burden of his position weighed heavily on his mind and brought harsh light to his own weaknesses

He shows that, even though he has different methods of addressing his opinions, he's honestly not too different from Fernand in terms of nobility vs commonfolk, and this is a worldview that changes over the course of the game

This is a much larger character arc he goes through than literally anyone in Fates

>Plus he is just ugly

I know all Fatesbabbies care about is how much they want to fuck the characters but you can at least be subtle about it
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>>182413761
Anything that compares your speed to the enemy's, apparently, but so far, only the Sweep skills do that.
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>>182413891
Alm
Celica
Delthea
Luthier
Clive
Python
Mae
Boey
Kliff
Tobin
Mycen
Berkut
Rudolf
Mila
Jedah
Fernand
Saber
Atlas
Est
Catria
Palla

i think that's a few
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>>182413360
It depends on what you define as a good character. If "waifubait I fight into a certain attractive stereotype both physically and in personality" is a good character then you do you. However I prefer my characters to have depth far beyond that.
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>>182413964
He's fucking shitposting dude, just let it end.
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>>182413665
>>182413518
i need more fodder but thanks for the replies and ideas

sweep sounds cool, but I don't have a Baum. It'd also be 40 on the first initiation too. QR is an option, although I don't think she's that tanky outside a defense tile. Absolutely don't want to take out the hp def skill because mine iis -hp, so fury could kill her fast.
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>>182413641
It hasn't been proven, you think it is better, I would rather be given an extra game to play, or heirs of fate which is better then echoes dlc.

Supports? You mean the... one? Or the shit base conversations? Or the fact that they had to import the whitewings and Camus into this game, just as bad as fates bringing in the awakening characters.

A lot of this is opinion, but you seems so triggered you have to call things shit, and retarded. Name five interesting characters, you can't.
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>>182413992
So it doesn't do anything for Desperation or Breaker/Wary Fighter/Quick Riposte situations where speed checks are used to confirm possible doublings? There's probably gonna be some more broken skills later that use speed checks then.
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>>182413359
If you're still here. I worry about posting it, the more I do the more likely people will start taking offense at my assertion that he's good and start shitposting.
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>>182414130
No, it's worse in Fates' case since they're ripping off Gaiden which did it first. At least back then bringing back existing characters for a sequel(the FIRST sequel, mind you), was a fresh idea.
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>>182414181
No, because Quick Riposte and Wary Fighter don't care about your Speed and Desperation is entirely up to your own character's capability to double.
It would be pretty busted if Phantom Speed worked as a free Darting Blow 2.5 for units with Desperation
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>>182406207
In half, you say?
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>>182414431
also gaiden and ankoku are explicitly set in the same universe

the awakening trio and reincarnations were after they promised no awakening connections in the new game and necessitated EVEN MORE DLC to justify them being there
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>>182414130
>It hasn't been proven

Yes it has

What part of relegating major plot points, characterization, and explanations of what the fuck is happening to DLC is "better" to you exactly

>Supports? You mean the... one?

You mean the ones that actually address characters' insecurities, develop on them, and lead to conclusions by the end? Yeah, those ones

Shit, right? Felicia having 50 supports of spilling tea on people was much better

>Or the shit base conversations

You mean the ones that flesh out backstory, pose questions of insecurities these characters possess and reactions to the events around them? Yeah I agree those are total garbage

>Or the fact that they had to import the whitewings and Camus into this game, just as bad as fates bringing in the awakening characters

This is where you become a confirmed retard, right?

Ignoring the fact that they were in Gaiden too, Valentia is shown to be connected to Akanea in terms of worldbuilding, and there are clear explanations as to why all four of these characters are here

Fates' worldbuilding is so abysmal they couldn't even be assed to give an explanation for how it is connected to Awakening, so they just used Outrealms BS to warp the kids there

The fact that you think these two are somehow relatable is fucking hilarious

>A lot of this is opinion, but you seems so triggered you have to call things shit, and retarded

Fucking hilarious, coming from you

>Name five interesting characters, you can't

Clive
Mycen
Berkut
Nomah
Lukas
Python
Luthier
Mathilda
Fernand
Kliff
Saber
Delthea
Alm

Shit that was more than five wasn't it :^)
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Is +atk brash assault Lyn good or just average? How about with qp+galeforce?
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>>182414075
Then include Renewal instead of QR. Solves both problems.
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>People still posting here
Am I in bizarro /feg/?
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>>182415707
i mean they're posting in the new thread too

it's just sometimes conversations (such as as they are) keep going
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>>182415923
This is good too. We should really wait longer before making a new thread. The first posts in any new thread are always "I love x" or "x a shit" anyway.
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>>182414805
cuck
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