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Asur-a-best Edition

Total War Saga Announcement Blog
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/a-total-war-saga-announce-blog/

New Race Pack for TWWH1, New DLC for past historical game and other stuff:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17/

Total War Warhammer 2 E3 Developer Interview - FREE FOR ALL, Magic, Campaign, Fortress Gate Battles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sgjUxVPtY4
Campaign map flyover for WH2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PtX_tJdBU4

Total War Warhammer 2 E3 Developer Interview - Dragons, New Units, Geomantic Web, DLC Plans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t48El9jBvr0

Mazdamundi's Skill Tree/Misc Gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQkUBoGptGI

Articles on Warhammer 2:
https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/2/15724926/total-war-warhammer-2-e3-preview-hands-on
https://venturebeat.com/2017/06/02/segas-creative-asssembly-unveils-a-massive-new-world-for-total-war-warhammer-ii/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-06-02-everything-weve-learnt-about-total-war-warhammer-2

Lizardmen In-Engine Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3CmxjTFv_Y

Lizardmen and High Elf Roster Reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVyRy3OUtKg
Text version:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/lizardmen-army-roster/

High Elves Let's Play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8RQCwevAk

High Elf Roster Reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKMR08CpxCU
Text version:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/high-elf-army-roster/

Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Announcement Cinematic Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXxe897bW-A
Total War: WARHAMMER 2 – Vision Dev Diary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6WW1Nc537g

>FAQs and General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

Old thread >>182279535

Screenshot sharing and campaign posting encouraged
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First for ancient romans spoke Japanese
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>>182366252
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Third for Liberty!
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>>182366609
>Reikland not Altdorf ok?
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>>182366252
druchii hype
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>>182366252
>High Elves Let's Play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8RQCwevAk

new today. for slow pokes.
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>>182366175

If i had to use reshade i would probably just use fake FXAA and a crispy filter, i really hate bloom because it's only used to mask how bad something looks and color palette changes just look bad
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>>182366674
its strike, right?
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>>182366674
Will probably be a High Elf trailer with them facing off against the Dark Elves. Missives usually concern the faction they're teasing.
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Me on the right.
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>>182366756
It's not part of the ritual.
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>>182366756
It's unrelated to the ritual.
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Time for Osprey
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>>182366850
>>182366915
i have no idea how this shit works.
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>>182366943
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Has anyone posted this dark elf concept art yet?
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Did the Lizardmen missive arrive before the teaser for the trailer or after?
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>>182366943
Anything from Napoleonic wars? Slavs and Frenchies preferably.
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>>182366971
this is a letter from a Dark Elf. Nothing related to Skavii

>>182367275
that's a Verminlord
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>>182366656
What are the Separatists trying to accomplish? Their Elector Count became Emperor.
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>>182366843
Don't people pretending to be lesbians usually post on /u/?
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>>182367275
I wonder who could be behind this post?
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>Lizardmen In-Engine Trailer - May 11
>Lizardmen Roster Reveal - May 18
>High Elf Roster Reveal - Jun 9
>Youtubers started uploading all the Battle of the Fallen Gates stuff - Jun 16
>First look at Campaign Map - Jun 21
>High Elves Let's Play - July 11

Seems like there's at least a few days and at most almost three weeks between every bit of substantial news (concept art and such don't really count). So at best we might get something next week and at worst we'll be waiting until early August. Of course, they could suddenly change gears and flood us with STUFF at any point.
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>>182367539
Anon...
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>>182367783
Or they could delay the release date.
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>>182367419
Sorry, I don't have what you seek
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>>182367950
I mean all their territory is in Reikland.
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>>182367539
Probably more power to the rest of the province. Altdorf is kinda dominating the province. Middenland and Middenheim has/had the same "conflict".
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>>182367963

>this_action_does_not_have_my_consent.jpg
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Jesus fucking christ this was insane, I've never micro'd that hard. Thanks fucking god for those heavens buffs
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>>182368080
what if they wanted another elector cunt ?
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How do I deal with the massed trash ranged units and spearmen as Hellenic factions in divide et impera?

My armys are always outnumbed since they never fight without having a garrison nearby. If I try to advance with my pike phalanx they will get lose 30-50 men just trying to reach the lines from from archers, while my archers are to few to actually make a difference.

I can win these battles but I just feel there has to be a better way.
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>>182368568
do you not have cavalry, stupid frogposter?
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>>182367539
Boris Jealousbringer bought them using funds obtained from Vlad von Putin. Then they engaged in an aggressive social media campaign to get more simple-minded people on their side. It was literally due to shitposting.
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>>182368568
Are the ranged units slingers, peltasts or archers?
If its just archers and peltasts counter with slingers, works even against the masses of unarmoured mounted archers the nomad tribes field
Also get some cav
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>>182368391

>peasants actually doing not terrible damage

huh
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>>182368391
I wish could see all the armies. One of the army had 2 crypt horrors, 3 black knights, 2 crypt guards and 1 Vargheist. Shit was tense as fuck.

Peasants ftw though
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History and fantasy living in harmony as we wait for STUFF.
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>>182368985
With harmonic convergence they become high tier units really. That spell is so fucking good.
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>>182368870
Yeah I have cav to get archers on the flanks but most of the time spearmen are always right behind them.
>>182368924
Its 90% archers with maybe one unit of slingers. Ill get slingers and see how they work.
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>>182367783
Unless they delay the release they'll need to up the pace.
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>>182367679
>>182367436
stop it anons, it's not funny anymore
We all know rodents are not real
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>>182366674
>>182366786
As I was saying last thread, it will be the High Elves trailer. The Lizardmen trailer had a High Elves letter teasing it.

Kardor Soulflayer is going to get 'Admiral Ackbar-ed'.
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>>182370378
Spooky.
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>>182368985
only against zombies and skeletons anon.
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>>182370508
Why spooky

>>182370378
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>>182370781
Thumbnail.
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I'm playing Shogun 2 and having issues with naval combat, namely that matchlock troops seem to be buggy about firing their weapons. Is there any way to get them to actually shoot?
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Have you guys ever lost a campaign? In late game?

Just got obliterated by chaos while playing von carstein on legendary. Had my two good armies in Estalia when they declared war, and razed all of my home provinces sending me into a deficit.

Then by the time I pulled back bjornlings and poopoos destroyes my southern provinces. Final battle was fought over Grenzstadt against Sarthoreal and Kholek against Vlad and Isabella. I had a third of the men they had and was promptly destroyed. Felt kinda ok since first game I didnt savescum at all
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>>182370781
>>182370908
I suppose

>>182371008
Turn off fire by rank as the set up time for it is insanely long
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>>182368905
I could imagine the Warhammer World as being 4chan. Lizardmen are /pol/, Dwarfs are /v/, /vg/ and /tg/, Chaos Daemons are /b/, /d/ are Dark Elves, etc.
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>>182371384
>>182371123
we had to make a thread before bump limit because we reached max images, and now you're spamming images in this thread for no reason

do you realize what you're doing, exactly?
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>>182371572
>hread before bump limit because we reached max images, and now you're spamming images in this thread for no reason
>do you realize what you're doing, exactly?


He's posting relevant images on an image board anon.
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>>182371572
Ospreyposting as is an old /twg/ pastime.

Guess I'll halt now.
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>>182371572
Fuck off I'm enjoying this, ospreyposting has always been relevant to /twg/
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>>182371786

Dont stop now, keep going
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>>182371572
who care about reaching image limit? We'll just make a new thread once we'll get there
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>>182371767
I have hundreds of screenshots of my TW campaigns, if I started posting them one after the other for dozens of posts, people would tell me to fuck off

>>182371786
>>182371908
No you fuck off, the only reason people do this is to post because they want to post

Just because Osprey is about history doesn't automatically make it /twg/ related
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>>182372067

This, what fucking difference does it make?
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>>182372138
yeah, it's better to shitpost about history vs fantasy really, I mean why the fuck would people do anything else in this thread anyway
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>>182371572
kill yourself my man
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>>182372138
What super fantastical topics is the ospreyposter distracting this amazing general from?
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>>182372138
I actually feel sorry for you that you have this attitude, not even memeing.
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>>182372138
I would rather you post your total war screens than being that guy who tells other people to fuck off.

You're a god damned hypocrite
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>>182372138
>I have hundreds of screenshots of my TW campaigns,
No? Campaign posting is also accepted here.

Just fuck off dude.
>>182372626
Do you have Successor kingdoms stuff?
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>>182372138
Do post your campaigns anon
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>>182372138
>Wanting to post is bad
>We should just let the thread die without posting in it.
>clearly this will make the thread better.

no seriously fuck off and die.

he's posting japanese and chinese ships, the chinese ones sure are pointless but all the jap ones are actually featured in shogun 2 and its interesting to see osprey dipictions of the same ships.

now FUCK OFF.
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>>182372626

Yes, keep going.
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preasu stoppa arguing friendsu

posta totaru warru
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>>182373135
Days and upcoming days of noticeable stuff are always bitchy days. It makes certain people uppity.
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So are there any good mods for Warhammer or what

And how come all the mods are on workshop and not TWcenter? Is this GW being jews?
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>>182373519
The modders have simply been moving more and more towards steam, it's been the trend for years
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>>182373519
Almost all major modding communities host their files through Steam now. Even Arma, and they're a buncha old fogeys.
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I AM ________ AND _________
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>>182373841
SNEAKY
STABBY
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>>182373595
>>182373671
Now if only the workshop wasn't a fucking disaster. I try to avoid it for any game I can but sadly some like TW:WH and XCOM2 I can't really.
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>>182373841
BORING
UNINSPIRED

Really, all his character is about being the best human at everything barring magic. Others in the empire at least have something going like having limits and flaws, or bretonnians have the whole "actually wanting to be chivalric but most don't know what that even means" and stumble around doing goofy or retarded shit with some highlights of glory.
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>>182374064
>d
His son is a Chaos Mutant.
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>>182374245
When did they say that? What's the effect on him and those around him?
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>counter-charging cavalry with cavalry in forest

https://youtu.be/0TwdUj8DZ7o?t=5m50s
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>>182374356

what would you have done?
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>tfw mod deleted my Ospreys
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>>182374064
>confirmed for not knowing anything about Karl 'Zoggin' Franz

Have you even read about him? Hes had his fair share of losses and difficulties. If anything hes just the only one trying to do good in a world of assholes and deamons.
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>>182374064
Is that not the point of him? Most past Emperors of the Empire have been quite useless at the job.

Only Sigmar, Magnus the Pious and Manfred Skavenslayer have been decent.
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>>182374064
So I see since you failed at making everyone hate Grimgor you've just moved on to Karl.
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>>182374064
Franz's quirk is that he's a ruthless pragmatist, albeit one whose actions are inspired by preservation of humanity and the world against the forces of evil. Time and again he is shown casually unleashing the Reiksguard on Altdorf protesters because he's an authoritarian in the service of a higher goal, sort of like Roosevelt.
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>>182374356
if nobody has an advantage then its an equal playing field and it falls to who ever has the superior troops.

now if there were supporting infantry it'd be a different matter.
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>>182374752
Hes very similar to the Emperor in 40k in that respect, which I assume is what GW was going for
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>>182367419
>lavs and Frenchies preferably.
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>>182370671
Wrong. Learn to use magic.
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>>182374752
That definitely makes him more interesting

>>182374646
Sorry that I don't like flat characters, you can fellate over the ebin headbutt if you like, I don't care about your opinion and I care even less about changing it.
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>>182374064
>ruler dedicates his life to upholding the virtues of his people and defending their lives
>places every fiber of his being into statecraft and warfare, has no children, no wife

>REEEE WHY IS KARL THE UBERMENSCH
Because.
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>>182375170
>First this guy comes at me with a butterfly on his back
>then this fucker comes at him with a RAKE
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>>182375298
>I don't care about your opinion and I care even less about changing it.
Curious way you have to demonstrate that.
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>>182367419
Slavs don't fight though. They just flee for thousands of kilometers while burning the stuff they leave behind.
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>>182375467
ONLY IN JAPAN
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>>182375286
Why would i waste magic on peasants when i can just use the same spells with a blob of knights to make the knights harder to hit.

I know how to use magic anon.

face it anon, your peasant ground pounders are just slowing you down.
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what is this place?
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>>182375467
>if it works for leaves
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>>182375397
>no children, no wife
He does
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>>182375484
>if you tell about your opinion it means YOU WANT TO CHANGE MINE

That's top grade paranoia
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>>182375552
Boring
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>>182375551
>turn 15
>slowing anything down
>moving goalpost
>doesn't even have a caster in his army

NOOB
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>>182375397
He does have a wife and children.
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A SQUAD OF IRONDRAKE TROLLHAMMER TORPEDOES BURSTS THROUGH YOUR GATES AND SLAPS YOUR FAY WAIFUS ASS AND SAYS: KHAZUKAN KAZAKIT HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LANKLET.

>What do?
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>>182375170
>When your monarch decides its time to fight the northern barbarians so you bring your best anti-leaf weapon, but really he just meant the rival clan.
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>>182375552
Quest battle location. You will also get the relevant battle map if you happen to fight the AI at that location without the quest.
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Why does he look so sad, /twg/?

>>182375869
>>182375624
>leaf jokes

Is this something about Canada
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>>182375860
lanklets tend to slap the irondrakes' shit around tho. It's the high test alphas that have to fear them.
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>>182375956
>Why does he look so sad, /twg/?
He realized he is a fucking cunt and a coward who runs away for 50 minutes before getting stuck on a lance.

fuck horse archers tbqh
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>>182376108
>fuck horse archers tbqh

Fucking this. It's all about PAVEESH CROSSBOWMUN
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>>182375784
I honestly don't get your points anon

That image that i posted was a couple turns into a legendary campaign where i took mousillon before turn 10.

if that makes me a noob because i did that without magic...

okay sure.

fuck you.
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>>182375956
No. I meant actual leaves. I can make leafposter jokes if you want though.
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>>182375956
mine was. day of the rake when
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>>182376309
>I can make leafposter jokes if you want though.

Why not

Day of the axe-pistol when. CA pls
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>>182376194
>PAVEESH CROSSBOWMUN
MILAN GET OUT
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>>182376601
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>>182376223
>I honestly don't get your points anon

I take it it's terribly hard for you to read. The point is peasants can damage any light armored unit with harmonic convergence, not just zombies you brainlet.
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Am I the only one that has bought everything from warhammer 1 and is conpletely uninterested in 2?
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>>182376494
Why the fuck would you take a rapier to a real battle? They're for duels and maybe street fights.
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>>182366843
What kind of horse is that?
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>>182376494
I haven't ventured much outside of /twg/ and /xcg/ for a long time. I'm sorry, I didn't expect you to say yes, my leaf materials are lacking. Last I've got is them cheating in the Rio olympics deathmarch.
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>>182376896
Dark pegasus.
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>>182376737
Are you burned out on it and see no potential for more diverse/deeper gameplay within the TWW model in future installments or do you just not like the idea of the new races?
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>>182376884
Maybe the artist can't draw correctly

>>182376994
Shiet it's fine my friend
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What's the difference between Grail Knights and Grail Guardians?
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Is there any sort of mod that allows the Shogun/Imperial banner to be shown in FOTS during battle? I just feel that it would be appropriate that once you're approved to Imperial/Shogunal vanguard that you get to put the banner's on display.
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>>182377138
One is DC and one is Marvel
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>>182376884
Where is it implied that he's in a real battle?
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>>182375631
>>182375812
Name those motherfuckers and then tell me what happened to Archaon's wife.
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>>182377138
Grail Knights are offense
Grail Guardians are defense
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>>182376720
I know, and i made the point if you're going to use winds of magic like that you might as well use it on knights. I get that peasants have more models, but a knight charge in lance formation will usually have more knight models directly engaged in combat.

>wasting magic on peasants.
and you call me a brainlet.

especially a single target spell.

maybe if it affected your entire battle line but harmonic convergence is a spell thats made for single elite units in the thick of the fighting. not peasants.

if you want to buff peasants a life mage with earth blood and shield of thorns or a beast mage with panns impenetrable pelt and wyssans wildform are both better since all of those spells can be cast on blobbed groups in one way or another.

again. I know magic. fuck off.
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>>182377563
>mounted katana ashigaru
isn't that just light cav??????
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>>182377563
FUCKING RADIOUS
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>>182377563
>Mounted Naginata Ninjas
>Veteran Legionaries with Spears
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>>182377375

False.

Grail knights are bad
Grail guardians are not

They are ven used in mp as mainline infantry in some builds
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>>182377563
I checked out his mod for Warhammer

Unsurprisingly, he gave Bretonnia about 6 heavy infantry units
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>>182377563

Unless you're a nomadic society, the thought of poor people on horseback is hilarious.

In medieval italy, owning a warhorse was proof you were a noble.
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>>182377984
i prefer grail knights, I prefer their massive charge bonus and using them more proactively. not really a fan of static lines when using full cav forces. And i know that annoys autist online so i don't do it.
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>>182378097
Fuck that guy
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>>182378097

CA did aome radious tier shit for bretonnia

The worst of all are foot squire LITERALLY filling the weakness bretonnia had and going against the lore of poor footment and hippogryph units going against the lore of few gryphs and rhe fact hippogryphs are solitary because they cant stad their kin
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TAKBIR
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>>182378325

Foot Squires/Foot Knights aren't lore breaking and used to be in the actual tabletop army except for the last army book the Brets got.

Hippogryph knights actually are lore breaking though.
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>>182378453

Why are sandniggers using ancient tracian weapons
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>>182378325
I wouldn't say it's Radious-tier at all though.

>>182378512
We should have gotten the Lost Sons instead of Hippogryph Knights for top tier cav, honestly.
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>>182378662
I think they've been blessed by Radious
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>>182377349
He has a son and a daughter. Only the son's name is known, Luitpold, like his grandfather.

Karl Franz also has a sister.
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It is now July, a chill wind blows in Naggaroth but the sea of malice is beginning to thaw. From Ghrond, a messenger comes bearing word of an ancient prophecy involving the lands of north Lustria. The Hag Queens offer many sacrifices to Khaine to gain more of his favour. Meanwhile the Druchii of Clar Karod whip their slaves ceaselessly in preparation for the Witch-Kings coming campaign.
A great fleet is being assembled for but one purpose, domination by a best elf soon!
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>>182378790
Stop posting this abject failure
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>>182377586
Using an attack buff on a charging shock cavalry? How retarded are you? They would already have 3 or 4 times more attack then their target's defence.

When you use it on peasants they have a better attack and defence than Louen, which is twice as much as squires.

Also, even though you're still moving goalpost, using shield of thorns on peasants is beyond fucking retarded since it adds % damage on a unit with an already low damage stats. That will literally add 2 points of damage. Complete waste of mana and the peasants are likely to flee before the buff even ends.

You know fuck all and you're a joke.
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>>182378790

And people wonder why the general hates fantasyfaggots.
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>>182379170
But we don't?
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>>182379285

Don't even respond to fantasyfag/histfag shitposts.
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>>182378512
but isnt CA in contact with GW when making the game and that they approved of the hippogryph knight ? would that make them lore breaking since GW said its ok for them to be in the universe ?
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>>182379756


Warhammer is dead, GW doesn't give a fuck
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Anyone know whats happened to the 1295 mod for Attila?
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>>182378790
NO NO NOOOOOOOOOO! Go back to whence you came hellspawn, I wont suffer another three months!
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>>182379869
GW giving zero fucks about Warhammer is better than them giving slightly a fuck about it 2bh.
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>>182379000
its more for the melee defense and armor.
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So lads, which monster do you think is going to be cut from the Dark Elves? The Medusa or the Kharibdyss? It's literally impossible to get both.
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Fact: The Lady is the single biggest slut in the Warhammer universe. Her sexual deviancy makes Slaanesh look like a good little schoolgirl(boy)
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>>182380187
It doesn't even give armor you tard
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>>182379000
>That will literally add 2 points of damage.

yet you advocate a clear + x on a unit of peasants that is only 120 models max. and might be completely engaged.

the +2 points of damage affects every model in that area with could be hundreds of peasants.

but your'e right buffing up one unit of peasants so that it fights like a unit of regular great swords except with still shitty weapon strength is great.

you really showed me.

>>182380361
overcasted.
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>>182379000
>Complete waste of mana and the peasants are likely to flee before the buff even ends.

which is what i've been arguing that using magic on peasants is.

but okay, keep casting your + melee attack skill on your peasants

let me know how it works out for you when you actually face heavy infantry.
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>>182380327
We're getting the Hydra. They could cut every single character and unit from the Druchii and I'd still be okay with it as long as we're getting the Hydra. They've been very liberal with their charlemagnes this time around judging by the two previous rosters released so I doubt there's much to complain about with the Delves either.
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This cunt has burned his way through most of south-western Athel Loren but now the NEET King shall have revenge. The dumbass besieged the Kings Glade, probably thinking he'd wait for reinforcemnts. Well, he has none and I have my army plus a tier 3 garrison, so even with those Bestigors and Spawn this should be easy.
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>>182380327
Kharibdiss.
The thing only exists to squeeze a few more shekels out of the Hydra box.

The Hydra has been a DE staple of decades.
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>>182380327
Medusa because the "children" that play TW will have a seizure if they see tits.

Plus the Kharibdyss is basically a reskinned hydra.
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Do I have a chance? That eagle looks scary, and those Wardancers might chew up my foot troops.
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>>182380631

>grey clouds, brown grass and ash rain

What have these assholes done to the Comfy Kingdom?
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>>182380842
just fuck up their archers with all your cav then turn around and fuck them in the ass
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>>182380842
Your Footsquires should be able to handle the Dancers and the eeagle looks scarier thanhe actually is.
Shut down their skirmishers early and you should be fine.
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>>182380327
if they have hydras, they gotta bring the kharibdyss. they might add medusa later as dlc like the corpse cart.
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>>182380842
Eagles are shit tier don't worry.
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>>182380842
eagles are doodoo, and you can roflstomp wardancers with cav since they are light and unarmored. The biggest threats are the Beasman, the archers, and the wild riders
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>>182379000
anyways your point was magic was good at buffing peasants, but the spell and the lore you picked isn't a great buffing lore and peasants aren't great targets for buffs in the first place.

lore of life also makes your peasant anvil harder, which synergizes with bretonnia. While making a single unit of peasants more killy doesn't really synergize. it might win you a battle. but its not the tactic to build your army around. since while harmonic convergence is not a spell to make a normal unit into an elite unit, its a spell to make an elite unit able to deal with another elite unit.
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>>182380710
They worked around it with the Harpies.
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>>182380842
easy, just run down their archers with your cav, you have more than enough.
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>>182377138

Knights are for fighting enemy cav or cycle charging. Guardians are for getting stuck in with the infantry or playing utility micro unit / magic buff magnet as they never get tired.
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Is steel of faith any good? Or are people looking/waiting for a different gameplay mod?
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>>182380887

>the absolute madmen actually advance, even though I'm attacking

Not that I'm complaining but doesn't the AI usually stay put when on the defense, unless you have artillery to shoot at it?
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>>182381163
True it could be done but they probably wont bother for release, doubt the cauldron of blood will make it in either.

Both will probably be shoved in a dlc.
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>>182380414
Wait, you're actually retarded enough to think the + attack and defence is split among all models in the unit? HAHAHA

>>182380518
>which is what i've been arguing that using magic on peasants is.

Which was never even argued in the first place and is wrong in that case since said peasants will end up with more defence and attack then a general and therefore won't be hit much and won't have the "unit is losing decively" morale debuff.

>>182381152
No. That was never my point. I just corrected someone who said peasants can only damage zombies even when buffed.

If you think you're making a pertinent point by saying building an army around peasants is not a good tactic you're a fucking genius man but again, nobody ever suggested that to begin with.

And harmonic doesn't just make a unit more killy, it makes it just as tankier. I'm also not arguing that life lore isn't better in general, that's completely beside the point.
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>>182380414

He's right though, +melee attack is entirely wasted on charging cav and actually makes a huge difference in infantry battles. %damage and armor on the other hand only really matter if they change the number of successful attacks necessary to kill/be killed by the units in question, which it almost universally won't with low stat infantry.

Overcasting HG is only ever potentially worth its cost if you're using it to sway a lord duel.
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>>182380842
Could have been cleaner, to be sure, but easy enough
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>>182381754

Orion and the veteran meaning they've ranked up once Talsyn Hawks watch as Morghurs center advances towards them.
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>>182380327
My guess is they're saving this stuff for DLC
>LL: Hellebron
>Lord: Death Hag
>Regular units: Sisters of slaughter, Bloodwrack Medusae, Bloodwrack Shrine
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>>182382641
I just realized that sisters of slaughter will probably need their own unique animations.
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>>182380327
I'm expecting the High Beastmaster, Black Ark Fleetmaster, Death Hag, Cauldron of Blood, Scourgerunner chariot, Kharibdyss and maybe the Bloodwrack Medusa and it's shrine to be cut.

The rest will make it in.
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>>182383038
They'll just have one weird charge animation and that's it. Just like the war dancers
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>>182382297

While the right flank skirmishes with Morghurs left.
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Is there anyone who lifts here?

I know the golden one plays total war
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>>182383412
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>>182383570
Yes
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>>182383575
I was thinking of doing Wood Elves for my next campaign, are they fun

also how is the standalone campaign for them
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>>182383570

>the golden one

Literally who?
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>>182383575
> fantasy
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>>182383709

latsbrah

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheLatsbrah

I have seen him posting on attila, rome 2 and warhammer trailers
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>>182383817
XD
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>>182382054
>Wait, you're actually retarded enough to think the + attack and defence is split among all models in the unit? HAHAHA
uh no. My point was that harmonic convergence can affect at most a single unit. while Thorns affects your battle line which is usually about 10 units. 120 models with the +xx (don't know exact values) attack and defense or 1200 models with +22% damage, +22 damage resistance to missiles.

And again, its not about which spell is better. that's not the discussion its about how peasant buffed can be effective.

would you not agree that fucking lore of life is a better anvil buff lore than lore of heavens.

>Which was never even argued in the first place
see
>>182368391
>>182368985
>>182369337
thats not what i took from this convo. it seemed like the idea was that buffing peasants with Harmonic convergence is a great way to get utility out of them. and i'm saying, its situational.

>>182382086
again, for harmonic convergence on cav its not the melee attack thats important, its the melee defense and armor thats import for a heavy cav unit to cycle out of combat without suffering much loses. that why harmonic convergence is good on cav. since its the pulling out where you tend to lose models.
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>>182380327
The Crone
> Har Ganeth faction
> Hellebron
> Supreme Sorceress
> Death Hag (mount: Cauldron of Blood)
> Executioners
> Bloodwrack Medusa

The Queen
> Avelorn faction
> Alarielle
> Archmage
> Handmaiden
> Sisters of Avelorn
> White Lion Chariot

The Rat
> Pestilens faction
> Skrolk
> Plague Priest (mount: Plague Furnace)
> Plague Monks
> Plague Censer-Bearers
> Plagueclaw Catapult

The Serpent
> Zlatlan faction
> Tehenhauin (mount: Engine of the Gods)
> Skink Oracle (mount: Troglodon)
> Bastiladon - Ark of Sotek
> Ripperdactyl Riders
> Salamanders
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>>182383974
>models

stop
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>>182383575

A treeman arrives with his kin to bolster the center.

>>182383659

In some ways they're really fun. You have great archers and cavalry (in the Wild Riders) and Tree Kin and Treemen are great.

A lot of units, mostly Elves, feel somewhat fragile though. Great Eagles and Forest Dragon, though they look cool, can take surprisingly little punishment. As for the standalone campaign, I vastly prefer it over the main one. Forest is bigger, map is more detailed, Amber is easier to get a hold of. Morghur gets a lot of armies and can put a lot of pressure on, provided you don't cheese it by abusing the AI. See, the Beastmen really want to get to the Oak of Ages and sometimes ignore everything else. With Durthu, you can camp in a pass leading into the forest and ambush them one by one.
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>>182384167
triggered
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>>182384373
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>>182383974
this whole chain is autistic - the anon used harmonic convergence to make his peasants perform better vs mousillon's hordes of skeles and zombies. Sure other buffs might be more efficient in different situations, but the anon got good use out of his strategy here
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>>182381327
You mean Steel Faith Overhaul. I like it. They recently added new units(other than variations of a unit) which was kinda lame, but they aren't really sticking out like a sore thumb. The Knights Panther was a good add because of them having a chapter house in the vanilla game.

It's a pretty extensive overhaul that makes the game a bit harder. Its main point is making all units useful.
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>Make peace with a faction so they dont take one of my cities
>Declare war on them the next turn
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>>182384963
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>>182385731
Beastmen models are the fucking coolest in the game.
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>>182385517
>Unreliable
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>>182385517
>complain if the AI tries to do the same
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>>182385517

DEVILISH
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>>182385805
And they are the most fun army to play
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>>182385913

>trustworthy in just 10 turns
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>>182385731

The center is holding, even if most units are losing decisively. The Razorgors and Centigors on the right have been taken care of. Now's the time for some good ol hammering.

>>182385805

No Jabberslythes though.
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>>182383974
10 units of your battle line with a 200m spell? are you fucking high? You're lucky if you get 3

And the whole statement about cav is simply ludicrous.

>would you not agree that fucking lore of life is a better anvil buff lore than lore of heavens.

It depends on your army composition and how far you are in the campaign. Lore of life has powerful aoe defensive spells but they cost much more mana and none of them have the same impact Harmonic has on a single unit for its price. Especially since Harmonic is a level 1 spell.

I don't blame you guys, the stat system is a bit obfuscated and all but to give you an idea of its impact: if you'd pit a unit of buffed peasants vs squires the squires would have only 20% chance to hit the peasants. They'd miss 80% of their attacks. For 24 seconds and for only 6 points of mana. AND it's spammable because it has a 24sec cooldown.

When you're early in the campaign and have a bunch of cheap, low leadership infantry units, keeping a couple of them alive forever vs much higher tier units can be much more important than healing 3 units for 15% of their health. You can avoid leadership debuffs on surrouding units and chain routing.
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>>182384110
I agree with most of this apart from some areas.

I can't see them cutting Executioners or the Supreme Sorceress.

To the High Elves, I would add in Shadow Warriors as well.

100% agree with Skaven and Lizardmen but might add in the Razordon as well.
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>>182386390
Honestly all I want is a Doombull
>Playing the gayest faction
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>rebellious offset by the massive bonuses from nurturing by nature

I was going to plan on backstabbing these guys after dealing w/ the emirate of cordoba so that Spain would be 100% christian, but the sheer incompetence of the Assturians makes it seem like that may not be possible.

The Spanish retards sent their only army north into the bay of biscay without naval support where it was promptly sunk by a frankish fleet. The other puppet state on my shitlist, the Duchy of Bavaria, has dilly-dallied around in Bohemia and lost 3 stacks to a combination of combat and winter attrition, and have nothing to show for it.
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>>182385517

>bribe a faction to make them join a war
>they win the war by taking a lot of settlements
>declare war on them while they are rebuilding the cities because they have no garrison
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>>182386492
>To the High Elves, I would add in Shadow Warriors as well.

Why? We're missing cool shit like the sky chariot and you want improved stealth archers?
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>>182385517
>bribe a faction to break a defensive alliance with a powerful ally
>declare war on them immediately after they do it
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How are you supposed to go after the Wood Elves with Orcs? From what I've played, their units are far speedier, can move while firing, and generally kite all day long. Should I be taking more cavalry units in to take them out?
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>>182386390

The pressure on the Talsyn Hawks is somewhat eased through a charge by the Spears of Orion.

>>182386560

Ghorgon would have been nice too.
But Anon, what about those Spellsingers
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>>182386741
Eternal guard/wildwood rangers will kill your cav if you do it, as will their skirmish cav.
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>>182385517
>ally pays me to join war
>enemy pays me to make peace
>ally pays me to join war
>enemy pays me to make peace
>ally pays me to join war
>enemy pays me to make peace
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>>182386954
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>>182386741
Can they outrun a DOOM DIVER?
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>>182367539
>What are the Separatists trying to accomplish?
They are probably long standing political enemies of Luitpold von Holswig-Schliestein.

i.e. they hated karl's dad
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>>182386741
If you can get your infantry into theirs, you will wreck them. Artillery pieces can be a good way to get damage onto welf archers from afar (especially doom divers). Wolf riders are obviously your best choice for running down wood elf archers
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>>182386741
Take a goblin shaman and be good at coordinating speed/accuracy/sight debuffs with cav charges
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>>182386954

With his herd either dead or fleeing, Morghur is surrounded and cut down.
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>>182386696
I want all units I can get. The end result of this series for me will be the 16 main factions with every unit they have in the army book (Forge World excluded).

The Sky Cutter is still wanted though.
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>>182387802

That was pretty fun, even if the end result was never in doubt. Now to clean up southern Athel Loren and then settle the score with Durthu and all the northern elf cunts.

Hope someone enjoyed.
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>>182386471
why do you keep talking to me as if i don't know how to fucking play? once you get your troops in a melee they get a lot more compact, especially if deciding to deploy deep and not wide. very easy to stack buffs that way. you can also press alt while aiming spells to choose a point on the ground so that you can more effectively hit a large mass and get as many units hit as possible.

I beat bretonnia on legendary difficulty twice anon. once as bretonnia and once as bordeleaux. both times with almost all cav armies, i think i know what i'm saying when i talk cav.

I get your points i really do.

Look early game bretonnia might be able to do early magic because they start with a damsel but if you noticed in my image i posted where you insulted my lack of magic, i was playing bordeleaux. Bordeleaux doesn't get a starting damsel. so you have to solve the issue in other ways.
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>>182388362
>why do you keep talking to me as if i don't know how to fucking play?

Because you keep saying completely nonsensical things like the fact that you can target 10 units of lined infantry with a 200m radius spell.
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>>182389047
You know you can deploy deep anon
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>>182389790
And in combat, notice all the green arrows to indicate that they're being buffed by a spell

notice how theres 12! of them, thats 2 more than 10.

WOW

its almost as if i'm going plan my formation around buffing peasants, if thats the crux of my strategy
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>>182389895
11*
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>>182386604
>taifa of Barcelona

top kek
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>>182389790
>>182389895
>using a 20sec buff before forming the lines
>only once
>suddenly the "10 units of lined infantry" turns into 10 units in one blob

Stop anon, this is just embarrassing.
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First army, first paint job, first conversion.
>Am hype
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>>182390263
eww
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>>182390263
This was like 15 years ago btw.
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>>182390263
Did you thin you're paints?
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>>182390254
YOU FUCKING GET ON ME FOR MOVING GOAL POST

AND YOU DO THE SAME FUCKING THING

Fuck you.

the point you made was that i can't hit 10 units. I showed you how i would deploy my bretonnian infantry when i used them and why i said 10 units.

So no

you fuck off. you're the embarrassment.
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>>182391135
mad
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>>182390263
That's an old model
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>>182391240
Stupid
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>>182391135
No one is moving goalpost. A battle line of 10 units and 10 units stacked on top of each other in a blob isn't the same thing. Stop embarrassing yourself already.
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>>182391130
I was 10 doing this with my dad. His idea was just to spray paint the saurus that dark green and at the detail after. The spear is custom.
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>>182391362
except you just did

I realized that YOU misconstrued my original point. since i never mentioned anything about 10 units in a line. Just 10 units.

Only you are obsessed with a SINGLE line and can't even realize that And then you make a point about it and are now acting all high and mighty because of it.
>>182389790
Anyways is multiple deep lines made for longevity using buffs and leadership to stick around longer (a point you made that made harmonic convergence useful).

and in
>>182389895
was the proof of concept that you can hit at least 10 units with a single spell and its not like was seriously playing. otherwise would i have charged 20 units up hill in the snow without using my missile advantage first? fuck no. so fuck off with your blob shit. especially since in a prolonged melee lines break down anyways.
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>>182392195
I never mentioned anything about 10 units in a line. Just 10 units.
>>182383974
>while Thorns affects your battle line which is usually about 10 units

Honestly mate, who do you think you're kidding here?

Making fun of you was entertaining for awhile but you bore me now. This is your last (You). Make it count.
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>>182386046
Redpill me on beastmen.
How do I play em?
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>>182393034
you poopoo and peepee
minotaurs >all
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>>182392689
>your battle line which is usually about 10 units
WOW a battle line doesn't explicitly say its wider than 400m, it also doesn't explicity say its 10 units wide a battle line can include front line reserves. The point of the whole battle line comment was in terms of melee infantry since typically you also have a lord and about 10 other units are usually split between missiles, cav and heroes.

You're the one who think i mean spread over more than the foot print of the spell.

You're just nit picking anon for no real reason just because you can't fucking admit that i was able to fit 10 units under a group spell and can't admit that you're perceptions were wrong. And then proceeded to try and lawyer away out of it instead of admitting that you had different idea.

You're just being an asshole to save face. which is not really working.
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>tfw people are splitting threads

What the fuck guys
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>>182393186
you should calm down, you come across as extremely flustered
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Skaven trailer will come out in October as the HYPE for the combined map, because the combined map will add Skavenblight to the map
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Someone post the warhamner rolling chart please
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Greatswords vs Demigryphs?
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>>182393186

You're
>You're
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>>182393947
why
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>>182393947
Tank
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>>182393947
great cannon
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>>182393747
>not being mad when people are acting like faggots
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What happens when I colonize a town with a Chaos Rift in it?
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>>182394369
Thanks bruh
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>>182374064
Karl is literally meant to be the greatest human champion after Sigmar to guide the empire against the greatest Chaos threat ever known

And what do you know, HE LOST
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>>182394279
Was thinking tank. I have access to tank. I pulled Franz away from Ostland after I cockblocked Chaos and am working on renovating his army for a greenskin slaughter. First time playing Empire.

Also please don't ask me about Hochland.
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>>182394759
He lost because gw freaks out into an autistic shitfit the second chaos starts to lose an event or people don't like them.
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>>182394875
>Losing Hochland to the border princes
>losing Wissenland, the hands down best recruitment province
>not having a panzer division of all steam tanks

what in the FUCK are you even doing
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>>182394918
Why? Is everyone at gw an autistic child that likes spikes on everything?
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>>182395084
>Is everyone at gw an autistic child

You might be onto something
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>>182395084
Chaos is their personal baby and there can't be anything stronger or more evil in their settings than it. Even in shitmar it's already confirmed that archaon kills sigmar.

So, Yes.
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>>182395293
>Chaos is their personal baby

Not really, it's just stolen from fantasy books like 90% of warhammer
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>>182395043
? Hochland is that green thing. I was actually sieging it at one point then 4 chaos warrior armies came so I went to deal with them. Several confederations later, Hochland still asshurt about the sieging and me assassinating chaos heroes on its land.

Speaking of which, time to confederate averland.
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>>182395365
I meant in the way that they pamper it and make sure it's the strongest lore wise.
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>>182395389
Oh my bad,I mixed up that and Averland
Anyways get on that Wissenland game, that should have been your first target after Marienburg. Nuln factory and the blacksmith/swordsmith building or whatever it was
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can I win this?
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>>182395365
hey dumbass you're really cool for saying that but he just means chaos is the teacher's pet
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>>182395460
Yeah I figured but I never miss an ocassion to shit on GW for being unoriginal blatant thieves
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So High Elf trailer tomorrow?
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Any way to stop these Dwarves from being useless? That settlement has been empty for the last 40 turns.
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>>182395484
That was the plan then the vamps proceeded decided to attack me. Proceeded to steam roll them.
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>vampire counts invite Karl franz to war against me as the dwarves.

What the fuck
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>>182395664
I know that feel.
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>>182395293
>Chaos is their personal baby
That's not how you spell Space Marines
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>>182395842
They prefer chaos though.
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>>182395932
If the models churned out are anything Space Marines are the bigger cash cow. No one plays age of shitmar and Chaos only serves as a punching bag for the Good Guys(tm). It's not that they want Chaos to win, it's that killing off the big bad evil guys means you can't sell your Sigmarines and Space Marines to kill the bad guys.
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>>182396138
There are other villains in both settings and none of them get the focus or attention chaos does, let's be honest.
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>>182395681
I didn't ask what the plan was I SAID get ON that BRO
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>>182396270
Its because dude good heroes of men fighting bad men who turned to chaos lmao sells more. I wish it weren't true but that's where the money is.
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>>182395513
yes
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>>182395513
if you can kill the gothic warband before they get into melee, yes
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Is there a sure fire way to get all the VC lords, including the Red Duke? Confederation is such a bitch.
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>>182395664
Campaign AI is retarded. All they do is sit around in their settlements. When I played wood elves I ended my campaign at turn 110 and ther other WE factions never moved once. Not once. 110 turns of scratching their balls. It's so fucking stupid.
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>>182398568
No not really. As far as confed advice goes you want to have good relations w/ the faction but don't have defensive/military alliances - these will make the ai factions factor your alliance into their strength and thus make them less likely to confed as that decision is typically made on the basis of how threatened the ai feels its faction is
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>>182398741

What a drag. I need to check out the mods to see if there's something out there. I have done everything in campaign but have all the Vampire Lords under one banner.
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>8 full stacks of chaos appear in the north
How do I deal with them?
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>trying to play TWW
>didn't get enough sleep
>keep making basic mistakes

Fuck this
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Andalusian Cavalry that I levied from the Taifa of Barcelona - so far I haven't had many opportunities to levy better troops from any of my puppet states, but these guys have better armor/stats than the Lombard Horsemen that were in this army, so I subbed them in
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>>182395664
>>182398605
Aren't the minor factions designed so that they don't do too much to prevent turns from taking forever?
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>>182400294
Lightning strike
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I've heard that the best way to confederate a faction is to beat the hell out of them first. Does that usually mean destroying all of their major armies, or will i have to siege some settlements as well?
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>>182378264
The fact that Rome 2 sucked on release makes this image a lot funnier
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So are the Viking tribes potentially the last DLC race? They offer a different way to play Chaos, and I can't think of another faction on the map that could still be a contender.
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>>182379869
But that doesn't really matter since Bretonnia never got a new book, so maybe they would have gotten hippogryphs if they had gotten a new book
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>>182378264

truly a man among men
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>>182401121
I think Estalia/Tilea will probably be a DLC race for TWW2 because of the colonies they have in the new world. Kislev will be DLC for TWW3. CA is working all angles to get people to buy the DLC by going "IF YOU OWN THE DLC YOU CAN PLAY IT ON THE OLD WORLD MAP AND THE NEW WORLD MAP CUZ THAT FACTION SPANS BOTH MAPS BUY THE DLC"

I mean the Skaven will obviously have Skavenblight in the Old World and only be playable if you own TWW2, while Norsca is probably the preorder for TWW2 and TWW1 will be on sale once TWW2 comes out so they're clearly hoping to get people to buy both games with promises of synergy like this. I mean why would you preorder TWW2 and then not buy TWW1 when the preorder dlc for TWW2 applies mostly to TWW1?
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>>182389895

>Less than half of any given unit is actively in combat.
>But I hit more units total so it's like my entire army benefits

This is literally only useful for healing magic. Melee buff magic is only as useful as the total number of models actively engaged in melee during it's effect.
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>>182375170
>Japanese E:TW troops invade canada
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>>182402417
I think the cold and wandering bit by CA is teasing about how Queek will start in Hellpit and have to make his way down to K8P and that the fourth race is Tomb Kings.
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>>182398357
>>182397646
how? with my cav? and theres 3 of em
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what is happening today
also more stuff soon?
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>>182404415
your settlement is walled, so use the arrow towers to your advantage and put your archers on the wall and target the gothic warband

>>182405718
we had loads of stuff today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8RQCwevAk
Helf lets play

and then there was a Delf teaser letter
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Now i maybe be wrong as i only get my knowledge from Total Warhammer, Vermintide and from what you guys are saying but doesn't Chorfs existence go against Warhammer lore?

IIRC each race was meant to be perfect weapon created by Old Ones against Chaos, but unfortunately each have one fatal flaw. Like Humans being generally pretty good, but easily corruptable, Ogres pretty much perfect but stupid and Dorfs being resistant to chaos corruption but unable to use magic.

So why there are mutated chorfs?
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i see there are 2 /twg/'s?
can you guys vote in this strawpoll
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>>182407286
https://strawpoll.com/yee9c5zz
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>>182402557
anon i mentioned that i just rushed them into combat to make a point that you CAN hit 10 units with a single spell at once. since i was being told that this was impossible

>This is literally only useful for healing magic.
hence the fact that its being used with a life.

My original point was single unit buffs are almost universally wasted on single units of bretonnian peasants, and that unless under specific circumstances its almost always better to use magic on knights, and if you were going to spend so much winds of magic on peasants that a life mage with earth bloom and life blood is the better option for a tougher anvil.
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>>182406903
They were mutated when the dwarfs hid in mountains and they were out in the plains. This got worse due to them submitting themselves to Hashut.
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>>182406903
Dwarfs can use magic, it's just that they corrupt and turn to stone if they do. Hence why runic magic is their speciality, they don't have to cast themselves, it's done through a proxy.

Chorfs choose to do sorcery, having their own dreaded lore, creating mutant Chorf abominations, and binding daemons to machines. The most powerful and experienced Chorf sorcerers suffer from the turn-to-stone problem and start to lose limbs.
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>>182406027
>and then there was a Delf teaser letter
is it on there faceberg?
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>>182409037
literally 5th post from the top
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>>182409154
>he thinks I read
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>>182406903
>>182408072
>>182408023
Didn't they also decide to settle in a place that most dwarfs thought of as unnaturally evil and warned them against doing so before hand?
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>Franks only have 3 settlements
>somehow able to afford a bunch of armored/mounted swords/spears and large onagers
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>>182409959
bow down to the frankish cock
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I hate High Elves so much. I will burn Ulthuan to the ground.
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>>182411756
I'm not saying you are wrong in wanting to burn it up, but what makes them so horrible?
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>zoom in on unit getting shot by a tower
>just as one of the soldiers gets set on fire and starts screaming, one of the other troops in the back shouts
>"Smells like roast pork tonight then!"

jfc franks are hardcore
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I tried aztec lighting and terrain for rome 2

I don't know how it's so popular, it looks like shit desu
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God damn it you assholes.
I've had the last 2 and a half weeks off and all I can do is play Warhammer. I'm supposed to be playing games I can actually beat.
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>>182414779

But anon, you CAN beat Warhammer. You just have to git gud
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>>182411756
>Being an inferior race
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>>182415062
that dwarf in the reflection.
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>>182409959
>>182410141
I don't think so
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>>182415049
I meant a game I can complete.
I'm on my 3rd Empire run, finished Bretonnia, finished Angrund, and I'm still not satisfied, as in I don't want to stop.
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Why is Divide et Impera such a tedious piece of shit?
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>>182416059
everyone declares war on you and the fact that its rome 2 so all the battles are the same boring slog
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can someone explain to me why CA are keeping, for the fifth or sixth game in a row, those hideous projectile traces? do they seriously believe that looks good?

the way arrows and gunfire looked in shogun was perfect. how can they think what they have now is an improvement?

i know you can turn them off in the options menu, but i found i can't see what's going on at all that way. i never had this problem in previous total war games. what's the deal? did they change something about the way regular projectiles look so they had to add in those traces, or is it just confirmation bias on my part? anyway, i fucking hate it and it looks terrible.
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>>182416764
I thought they were fine until they introduced the ridiculous ones for the elfs/bret peasants in WH. The special arrow types look absolutely atrocious, and they are using them in the sequel for things like blowpipes as well
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>>182416059

battles are always easy because they are too slow

you get insane income too early

battles casualties are too low and there is too much emphasize on morale and armor
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Someone please red pill me on how to play wood elves, I suck at them so much.
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>>182374917
You have that monumentally backwards, as he predates Emps I believe. 40k is the child of Fantasy.
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Is there any better ruler than this glorious KING WARRIOR?
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>>182416059
Just like real life, Spongebob!
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>>182418578
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Pretty good
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>>182418989
Franz is a pansy
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>>182417715
Please help, brets are fucking my ass
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>>182419256
thats a shit emp build t b h

>no magic
>pick the one emp lord w/o healing
>stank vs brets
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>>182419256
>>182419438
I knew it was going to be easy 2 seconds in when he took the bait of my yeoman archers and chased them with franz into louen. was still fun.
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>>182418578
the second of september 2013 was a dark day
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>WRE
>revolts in iberia
I-I don't think I'm gonna make it brehs
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>>182418513
No. I haven't thrown him at multiple regular units though. Karl can chew through those. Don't know about Louen. I mean, he's still invincible, but maybe not fast.
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>>182418989
Why such a small army if you're going on a rampage through the Reikland?
Is it turn 10 or something and you just continued the rape train after Marineburg?
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>>182421191

it's multiplayer
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>>182421191
Nevermind that last part.
Apparently I'm retarded for not noticing demigryphs and the fucking tank.
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I've never done multiplayer, how should I build a vamp army?
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>>182368568
As the greeks investing in a couple of merc rhodian slingers is almost always worth it.
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>>182394369
rollan
(even tho I'm mostly playing Empire total war these days)
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>>182371542
>/pol/ not beastmen
>/r9k/ not lizardmen

>>182371572
Making the thread good?
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Fucking close battle.

Louen lost to fucking savage orcs in the end. it was him vs 60 of them. in the woods.
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>>182421679
Lizardmen are looking to destroy all other races but not civilization itself. How would Beastmen fit /pol/ better? Beast are an uncivilized group of savages.
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>>182421281
Don't be so hard on yourself babe
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>>182421792
>Louen not so Leoncoeur after getting krumped by da greentide
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G O B L I N
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>>182406903
>be dorf
>mining shit
>age of chaos comes
>your holds are burnt by hungry daemons banging at the gates and you're afraid of dying
>go deep into the dark depths of the earth to escape them
>discover the bull god hashut chained there
>In exchange for submitting to and freeing hashut hashut would protect them from the daemons who were weaker than a full chaos god like hashut
>chorfs become twisted and semi-taurine in physical appearance as willed by their adopted father of darkness

Chaos Dwarfs are like Skaven, except Skaven were created whole by the Great Horned Rat while the Chaos Dwarfs were an existing race corrupted into Hashut's image
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>>182421792
actually thinking back about it, i lost the battle when i charged a unit of savage orc boar boys only for the charge to somehow miss and run into some squigs that i failed to see. and then the knights got pinned from behind by the boar boys.

>>182422121
fuck it was so close, it was his moral to my health.

I could have retreated to regenerate an extra 100 and probably could have won but i pushed the issue, there were only 2 minutes left in the game and i didn't want to appear to be the guy who flies away at the end to deny a win.

but i really could have used that healing.

better to go out killing 123 orcs than running like a fucking pansy.
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>>182409504
Zorn Uzkull is called such because it means Great Skull Land in Khazalid, the Dwarfish language

It is covered in giant skeletons of dragons because dragons decided to make it their graveyard for thousands and thousands of years

In the past though some parts were nice and there were lots of minerals- the southern regions were called the plains of plenty during the time of the Nehekharan empire. But of course it all turned to shit after the Nehekharans were killed and raised as undead mummies.
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Why are brets normal when they have the easiest campaign?
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>>182421867
>all other races
Except
>Ogres
>Humans
>Halflings
>Dwarves
>Elves

Why lie?
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>>182422425
I don't know the lore very well, misinterpretation on my part.
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>>182422546
Just save the genocide campaign for runs where you don't use LLs.
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>>182422020
NO! I'm so stupid!
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>>182422151
I just thought of a good game idea. An endless game where you're dorfs and you have to go deeper and deeper to escape the whatever outside. Demons, aliens, ghosts, whatever. Sort of like Dwarf fortress but you're gonna get your shit pushed in if you try to make a stand.
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>>182415062
>Pansies
>Fingkin deys betta dan aneewun.
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Greek forces begin to land.
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Don't bring only halberdiers to siege assaults against other empire factions.
AI perfect micro faggots.
I won but I felt like I lost because now I have to sit there for 2 turns doing nothing.
Even with 3 mortars raining death and disruption on their crossbows.
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>>182375545
That was winning move though. They would've been crushed otherwise because Napoleon's Grande Armée was the greatest force of its time. And they totally outplayed him, causing the most crushing defeat to him and destroying his army in the process.

Also Battle of Borodino was like one of the biggest and bloodiest fights of Napoleonic wars and he still wasn't able to decisively beat them, many consider it to by a pyrrhic victory which further exacerbated his logistical problems.
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The first wave pushes through fire pits while being peppered by arrows. My cavalry and javelins move in to take out their ranged and distract the rest of the army.
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Seems like savage orcs are the end of me tonight.
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They've broken through my first line of spears and my reserves are sent in. With the majority of their troops committed this is a good chance for my falxes to come in from the side.
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>>182424008

Would napoopan have conquered europe if he didn't get meme'd into attacking Moscow?
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>>182425375
Nay, he pretty much was forced to invade Russia. Otherwise, everything would just slowly crumble around him. He needed a quick and glorious victory to keep everything in check. Spain campaign was a failure and he wanted to force Britain to surrender by blocking its proxy trade with Russia.
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W-where you l-looking, anon? D-did you like it?
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>>182425375
>Would napoopan have conquered europe
There was nothing left to conquer.
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>>182425954

God damn, how did he do it back then?
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>>182425954
Bongistan.
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>>182426167
He did it with style
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Much closer than I thought it would be.
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>>182426331
It's not a Europe.
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>>182426167
Good strategic brain and brave young revolutionaries in his army.
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Fuck lost track of the time. Every just squares so i just tried taking my time picking it apart. I'm disappointed i could have won it.
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>>182426167
being the best.
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>>182426605
inb4 buttmad rebbit post about cheeser
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Who here is ready for lizards
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>>182426605
Get some infantry.
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>>182426678
I think i just forgot how long our skirmishing battle actually was and just got absorbed into trying to pick apart his square.
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>>182426819
thats not as fun though
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>>182426801
AW YISSSSSSSSSSS
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>>182426801
Why would anyone want to play as fucking lizards?
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>>182426801
I need to breed skink cloaca
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>>182426916
Furfags who want to get fucked by lizard.
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>>182426963
>Furfags
>Fur
>lizards
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>tfw just want to play as high elves and engage in wholesale kinslaying.
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>>182426892
It is fun. Use fucking peasants as a shield why you pray to the lady for successful charge.
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>>182427085
I was i was using the peasant bowmen as shields after they had run out of ammo.
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>>182427019
High Elves really tickle my fancy. 10/10 aesthetics and seems like they will have elite everything. Stalwart frontline and great cav. Like the best mix of Brets and the Empire. Shame about artillery, but mages should pick up the slack.
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>>182427085
this next quick battle i'm playing is 2v2 and i'm allied with dwarfs so theres some infantry.
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>>182427019
>high elves
Are you gay? I'm not judging you, just asking.
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>>182427259
>allied with dwarfs
That's like the worst thing imaginable. 99% of dwarfs are autistic as fuck and can't even move.
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Total War: Gangs of Glasgow when?
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OLD FRIEND WHENNNNNNN

WHY DELAY FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT EVEN A BIG DEAL?
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>>182426801
>amazons never ever

I guess I'll just have to subjugate the wood elves and feet enchantress then
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>>182427695
Total War: The Troubles
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>>182427376
thats okay they ended up being dwarf and empire and my cav was able to shut down their guns, we won.
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>>182428229
>>182427376
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>>182428627
>Gyros
Fucking why
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>>182428627
Karl franz was on foot i think. he definitely wasn't flying.
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>>182428702
I've never played multiplayer because of shitnet where I live, but do you at least know who your allies are going to be when your deciding your army comp?
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Rome has two armies in the area and while Athens is currently neutral, they're also a Roman client state.
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>>182428887
yeah can see which faction everyone is and your allies army composition. but not enemy army compositions.
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>>182419430
Micromanagement
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>>182428942
Was the empire player retarded? Isn't the elite empire cav on par with grail knights?
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Finally got one.
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>>182429178
He also has 10 kills with the rockets, so retardation it must be.
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>>182429531
I actually took out his rockets really early with vangaurded mounted yeomen.
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I can no longer attack settlements without crashing, what gives? I really don't want to start a new VC campaign.
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>>182429358
>that balance of power
Surely you'll crush them right? I mean it's an ambush. Admittedly I have no idea what quality your units or theirs are.
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So I just got into the Total War series after a couple of years hiatus. I stopped playing after the disaster that was Empire.

What the actual fuck happened to battles? They're super fucking short. I don't really have time to maneuver, flank, have a couple of skirmish duels, etc. since units die and break so quickly. A normal battle now lasts somewhere between 10-15 minutes, instead of the normal 30-45 they should last. Can anyone explain how you're supposed to play tactically with such a limited timeframe? Just lobbing your units forward seems like the best strategy.
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>>182427939

WHEN INDEED?
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will I enjoy TWW if the only RTS I have ever played is warcraft 3
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>>182430684

Maybe?

It doesn't play anything like Warcraft 3 at all.

You control larger units (i.e. one unit of Orc warriors is 100+ model) where in Warcraft 3 each unit is 1 individual model, only the Lord and Hero characters are controlled individually.

You don't build bases on the same map you control your units in battle in, instead the game is split between campaign map management where you manage cities and move armies around and battles that happen when one army attacks a city or another army.
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>>182394369
Rolling. When the mega map comes out this chart is going to me cray or use 3 digits
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>>182430684
Base building is not the focus for battles, maneuvering troops for favorable or stalemate engagements is emphasized. Don't expect a lot of unit abilities that need activating, almost all abilities will be on your lords and hero units there are quality of life mods if you want an easier campaign such as the "disabled AI agents mod" and some overhaul mods. The Empire is a good faction to play as to learn the game, vampires are good if you feel like rolling face, and the different difficulty options only adds artificial difficulty.
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Looking good, I'm curious to see how these fireballs perform.

>>182430580
It should be fairly one sided because I get a good surround right from the start. If this was a proper field battle I would probably win it but not without using my skirmishers and cav to snipe squishy units on the flanks while I make them run the length of the battlefield to get to me.

Three quarters of my army has no armour so engaging a heavy armoured hoplite line while they still have support would be suicide.
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>>182430684
Well, look up some battles on youtube to get an idea.
Main difference is that you control units instead of individuals, so stuff like facing, flanking etc is important.

Also morale is a thing.
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>>182430684
Fellow wc/sc retard here.

Yes. TW is a very welcome surprise, great fun too.

Playing chaos ATM read that I should be spamming shaggoths and giants, which feels weird and dumb.
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>>182431827
>I should be spamming shaggoths and giants
Chosen. Just spam chosen.
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>>182431827

Spamming Shaggoths definitely does work, you will win most battles.

It is dumb though.
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The pathing on these fireballs is pretty janky but I did manage to hit a couple of units with them.
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>>182386696
Sky chariot is fucking retarded.
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>The White Dwarf

How come der aint no Black Dwarf HMM?
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>>182431881
They are slow as all fuck and ranged guys instagib em and get kited by everyone.

I am making full chosen army on sigvald because I am a flufftard, unsure which chosen I should spam that said.
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>>182432102
Nigger dwarves aka chaos dwarves are less of a faction than brets and sob
Get cucked.
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The ambush is going well, just waiting for a unit of elite sica warriors to push through a gap and pin these loose hoplites in the back line before I send in the falxes.
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>>182432127
I use my own cavalry to take care about ranged units.
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>>182432250
So do I but it feels at that point I might as well spam chaos knights and chariots instead since my knights get there ASAP and my chosen are 60km away taking picnic for the picnic god.
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>>182375545
Poles fought under Napoleon for reinstating their country tho.
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>>182367118
>>182366943
>That tech advantage.

The Japs were basically fucked from the beginning weren't they? I swear all they had was numbers and experience on their sides.
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>>182432772

Poles are verminous subhumans and always have been.
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Perhaps this will teach them not to set foot in my lands again.
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>>182430442
mods?
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>>182432858
Thanks Anon.

Before the war with the Swedes Poland was a big and strong central-european country (fused with Lithuania for maximum slav power).

Then our own aristocracy sold us out into 123 years of slavery so maybe you're right after all.
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>>182385517
>AI raids you now and you suffer a diplo penalty for declaring on them for doing so.
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Slave economy best economy.
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>>182433235
They sold you?
Is that an event I can look up with a name?
I wanna research.
But at least you kept Europe Cath... err at least Christian.
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>blind eltharion (pbuh) will never make a comeback

rip
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>>182430584
Turn speed down if it feels too fast

What game are you playing
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>>182432553
>spam chariots

ASININE
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>>182433550
It's called The Deluge

I suppose more specifically the event which ended Polish and Lithuanian independence was called the Partition of Poland, I think it occurred in three states where the powers of Austria, Prussia and Russia gradually gobbled Poland up

>>182433235
>Lithuanians
>Slavs

Baltic languages are much prettier to look at than Slavic languages, according to linguists the Baltic languages are the "closest" modern languages to what the ancient Proto Indo-European language would have looked like and thus they are very conservative linguistically speaking (though obviously over 6000 years there have obviously been changes)
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What should I do starting as Wood Elves?
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>>182432858

Do NOT bully Poles!
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That's a new one.
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>describe your genitalia using a total war quotable

No shoddy contraptions here ;)
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>>182434096

Do not mock me!
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>>182434096

All shall know me and tremble!
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>>182434096

GONNA STAB!
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>>182432127
Only the most aesthetic of Chosen, with a heaping helping of bare chested marauders
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>>182433550
It's not a singular event event, It's the whole last century or so of the Polish Kingdom's existence. By that point Poland has basically become an aristocratic democracy, with centuries of their increased power and the ending of the last polish dynasty leading to new kings being elected by them and most country matters decided on sejms (aristocracy gatherings).
There was also that one rule that allowed every participating aristocrat to shout "liberum veto" during the proceedings to just end them on the spot, meaning it was enough to buy out one of them to stop us from doing anything.

So, after finally repelling the Swedish invasion our country was in ruins, while our neighbour Russia was growing in power. From being one of Russia's greatest rivals back in the day our commonwealth basically became a Russian plaything. Our King was a Russian Puppet and many an aristocrat seemed to prefer russian gold and promises over a ruined country. As that guy says:
>>182433767
this ended in the three Partitions of Poland:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Partition_of_Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Partition_of_Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Partition_of_Poland

Which basically meant we gave them our land ourselves. After that, with a short break during the Napoleonic Wars, Poland was off the map until WW1.
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In the north the Daorsi move through the hills towards my town and my general sets up another ambush. To the south three Roman armies are considering attacking Pella.
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>>182434442
>Poland was off the map until WW1
Oh dear I wonder what that feels like
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>it begins
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>>182434096

FOR I AM CUMMING FOR YOU
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>>182433857

bls respond!
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>>182433857
Don't do anything at all. Take it easy.

Maybe ask Bretonnia for some NEETbux
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>>182433857
Either be aggresive or turtle up and research your diplomacy bonuses and politick your way to victory.
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>>182434096
IM GONNA BESIEGE THEIR HOVELS
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>>182434096
A SHAMEFUL DISPLAY!

:'(
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>>182434096
Are you a god?
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>>182433639
But I want that true GW "buy our overprice minis" feel!
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>>182434359
>>182434096
Bring me my mirror shield!
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>>182434896

>+10 armor for a unit that is meant to have light armor and already has silver shield rating
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>>182434096
>Fucking a girl on her period
OUR HORSES LOVE BLOOD
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>>182434896
>calling for buffs or nerfs before game is even released
>thinking you know anything about anything
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>>182435359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5mtclwloEQ
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>>182434096

THIS STINKS
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>>182434896
These people are too used to how elves are depicted as being ubermensch that kill everything with a single swish of their little finger
I'm going to enjoy fighting high elves with dirty peasants and winning
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>>182434096
NURGLES PESTILENCE GLORY
KILLLLLL MEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182434896
The same happened for WE
HE will get a massive buff
CA dont know how to balance elite based armies
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>>182435835

What made HE so stronk in TT to begin with?
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>>182434896
>it's the chaos warriors need nerfing all over again
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>>182435758
I wish there wasa way to make him faster
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The Romans still haven't moved to attack but they're no longer fortified, and too far away to reinforce each other.

The army defending Pella was built to defend a city not fight a field battle so they recruit some mercenaries to aid them.
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>>182434896
I do wonder how much high elf spearmen will cost. They are actually closer to empire spearman then eternal guard, but with their better morale and armor they should stick around significantly longer than spearmen do.

500 gold might be too much, but 450 feels undercosted. 475? I think Dark Elves will have better cheap infantry options, so that might also weight raising the price a bit above its natural resting spot for purposes of asymmetry.
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>>182435896
The WE buff was weird, such a hard buff and so soon after release. They were good before, just needed to micro them well. Then they because very good.
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>>182436172
>They were good before
Fuck off
You had to micro like a madmab to make them VIABLE
Not good
Just operational enough

The buff was necessary for their elf part of the roster
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>>182436172
Wood Elf archers were definitely an underperforming part of the roster before the buff. They overbuffed them and the subsequent adjustments put them in a good place, but 160 range archers without that much damage was a very bad look for them.

Wood Elves are comfortably #4 or so in terms of POWER LEVELS, so I think their balance is among the best in the game. Unfortunately, large parts of their roster are pretty non-viable so Wood Elf builds tend to look similar compared to the flexibility other factions have.
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>>182435835

>depicted as being ubermensch that kill everything with a single swish of their little finger

Which is kind of dumb, since there's at least one instance of them being beaten by regular humans, despite being backed up by a couple of dragons.
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>>182435952
BANNER OF THE WORLD DRAGON
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>>182436309

>3 dragons
>still get beaten by Joe Blow of Nuln
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>>182436260
h-hey watch your language there
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>>182436048
How fast do you want him?
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>>182435952
Always strike first and some other special rules that made high elf spearmen blocks very strong
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>>182436469
Faster than a gay snail.
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>>182434896

While I am kinda concerned for some stats on HE units, I want to wait a bit before talking about buffs or nerfs. We've yet to see the full roster or the potency of high magic and lords/heroes.

I just hope they can balance the Lothric Sea Guard propper, I feel like they can easily swing between broken and useless.
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>>182436309
Yeah, it's not a problem with warhammer necessarily, but with a combination of other fantasy series tending to give that impression
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>>182436260
>elf part of roster
>trusting elves in your army

The forest belongs to the trees.
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>>182436654

As long as they're not overpriced for what they do, I think they can be very useful.
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The Romans lack any sort of long range skirmishers so my archers move up, escorted by javelin men, cavalry and spears.
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>>182436721

Meant to say as long as Sea Guard aren't overpriced.
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>>182434978

Depends what you wanna do. Either be a gud boi, sit around do diplomacy all day. Or you build some of those defensive structures so your city is secure and head out to rob Britannia and their settlements.
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>>182436920
Or head east and mess with the Dwarfs and Tileans and Border Princes...
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>>182436791
What price is that? 650?
Having your infantry line be able to skirmish (and do so effectively thanks to high range and missile block chance) seems very valuable
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>>182436654
I don't think they'll be all that hard to balance statwise since they'll be a straight upgrade over regular archers and you don't need a melee unit to babysit them.
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>>182436971
If spearmen have a better price and either equal or better melee stats then they'll be relegated to archers you don't have to protect from flanking units.
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>>182436309

I personally don't get why the elves suck so hard in the lore. For some reason high elves get beaten by everyone and everything. Just look at lizardman and high elves, or war of the beard or that battle.

Why do elves fucking suck so much?
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>>182437157
Lizadmen get away with spanking the elves.
They deserve it.
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>>182437239

Not just lizardmen, but literally everybody. You can look at dwarves and you see countless of victories despite them being in a worse state at the moment.

But elves forget it, they got their little island, pretend to be all high and mighty but they get beaten by everything in the warhammer world.
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I wonder what it would feel like to get my dick wet in a druchii
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>tfw no sci-fi TW
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>>182437402

It would be extremely painful.
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>>182437402
Best feeling in the world my man
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>>182437157
>gay, lazy big hats who live for thousands of years and think they're too good for gunpowder


Get with the times grandpas.
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>>182437507

The orcs don't use so much gunpowder, hell savage orcs don't use any gunpowder and they are even better than high elves.

Or Beastmen, or chaos. Good they got cannons but they prefer strong armor and such.
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>>182437157
They dont lose all the time, its just that, since they are in the whole "locked in eternal civil war" thing
When they are portrayed in any other place that is not the dark elf vs high elf one, they get used as a random enemy that the protagonist at the time beats
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The enemy general has finally sent in his cavalry which will be quickly dealt with. Time to start moving up my main line.
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>>182437698
Yeah but both of them have numbers so they can swarm
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>>182427286
>Literally Noldor + Dragons
>gay.
Nigger please.
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>>182437698
Or lizardmen.
>when you fuck with your senpaiand he gives you the spanking of a lifetime with fucking ROCKS
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>>182437732
And the war of the beard was the lore device to explain why elves arent in the old world (apart from asrai)
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>>182437794
>Noldor
What? I don't speak gay, sorry.
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>>182437157
They have it all coming.
>Dwarfs get raided by dark elves dressed like high elves.
>Dwarfs understandably get angry and send an emissary to the Phoenix King to ask him what the fuck is going on.
>Instead of simply explaining that they had a civil war and that their evil cousins are responsible, the Phoenix King decides to symbolically castrate the representative of the entire dwarf empire.
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>>182437794

Noldor = The Gayest Elves
Dragons = The Gayest Fantasy Creature.
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>>182437895
>>182437912
>>>/r/eddit
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>>182437903
>Instead of simply explaining that they had a civil war and that their evil cousins are responsible, the Phoenix King decides to symbolically castrate the representative of the entire dwarf empire

The king was a cunt
But did you really expect dwarfs of all races to be rational? Specially when it comes to grudges?
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>>182437952

Go masturbate to your gemstone faggot
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>>182437157
>>182437394

I think it's partly to emphasize the desperate situation they're supposed to be in. There *are* several victories mentioned in the last army book; there's a fleet captain sacking Marienburg in retaliation for a raid on Ulthuan and the Elves driving off Sigvald from their island.

Though these are what I've taken to call "one-off battles". What I mean by that is that these battles are mentioned once, maybe vaguely referred to again at another point ("Elves and Men have not always been allies" or something) and then never mentioned again. That Battle of Three Towers, for instance, is never mentioned again, to my knowledge.

The number of "real" victories the Elves have, as in battles that are referred to multiple times and thus feel more "real", for example the Battle of Black Fire Pass, Siege of Tor Alessi, Battle at the Gates of Kislev, are relatively few, at least during the time the games are supposed to be set. The one I can think of the Battle of Finuval Plain, and the victory over Grom the Paunch.
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What traits/items/abilities would Historical Generals have if they were LLs?
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>>182437903

Doesn't matter in that case, its just look at the war of beards itself. Not once did the elves captured even one dwarven hold, not once did they have a big victory in the whole war. On the other side, on the dwarven side. You got that "master of tunnels" dwarf who beat an entire invasion, they raided all their colonies, they killed dozens of important people. On the other hand the only important one that died was that King's son.

Its just ridiculous you know? THe high elves seem to be the best of the best in a lot of ways but when it actually comes to it, they just suck. Completely. They got amazing weapons, amazing armor, monsters, are one of the best magicians. But somehow, they always lose.
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>>182438063
>the wife's king son
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>>182437952
Is it where you learn all this werid words?
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>>182436172
Remember when Wood Elf archers would lose in a one-on-one fight with Goblin archers?

Was good times to play as Skarsnik
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>>182438063
And avatars of khaine gets suckerpunched in 40k

Elvish races im warhammer just get the short stick in the writing department

Eldars are the same shit

Greatest psykers on the universe with omniscience capabilities and the best specialized combat units in the universe
They get written as drooling retarded fragile trolls in most books
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>>182437402
I wanna fuck a hydra
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>>182438220
f-finubar is the progressive candidate

lothern yes!
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>>182437157
I think a lot of it comes from over extension. There's too much going on in the world that they have their fingers in so they try to play world police but then get overwhelmed by what ever local forces they're facing.

They are very skilled and strong, but that doesn't mean much when you're outnumbered by the barbs 10-1
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>>182436376
The 1d4chan description of that item is hilarious.
>Banner of the World Dragon: Matt Ward's way of saying sorry for making Daemons of Chaos overpowered. 50 points for a 2+ Ward save against magic, magic weapons and magic attacks for the unit, which includes miscast effects. Ward then had the balls to make this banner give stubborn to dragons within 12 inches. DoC players, Skaven players and Wood Elf players won't play with you if you use this. Empire player passing by, if you bring this banner I won't play with you either. Dwarf player here, I wouldn't play with you either. I don't think anyone will. *distant sound of Ogre Kingdoms players laughing* Seriously though, as a Vampire Counts player, this banner needs to die.
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>>182438003
Thats why you tiptoe around it.

Its like stealing lizardmen shit and not expecting doom to rain upon you. Ask for it.
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Clean win, mainly due to my agent dropping the morale of the main line down to 50 or so.
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>>182438003
They weren't even being that irrational. By all they had to go on, the High Elves had raided their caravans and responded to their attempt of a peaceful solution by spitting in their face.
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Emboldened by their success my troops move in to attack the second Roman army. This one won't be so easy.
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I just noticed that the dragon prince's shields glow with a cool inner fire effect
>>182438701
Caledor 2 was probably the biggest reason thehigh elves got their shit kicked in.
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>>182438353
This is lore accurate though.
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I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone complaining about the wacky bubble effect the phoenix guard had - I though it looked terrible
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>>182439009

Someone did last thread. I don't like it either but I'm hoping it will be modded out day 1.
>>
So why are they selling this as a new game?

It doesn't look like a new game to me.
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>>182439009
Some one said it might just be them standing next to Tyrion that did that.

In any case; not worth getting flustered about something that will be modded out day one.
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t. Pope Alberto Barbosa IV
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>>182439236

>So why are they selling this as a new game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP0sC_s5EfE
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>>182439236
This

>same UI, just blue
>same in-game advisor
>same graphics
>same engine
>barely any new mechanics aside from bridge battles, a feature removed from the previous game

Why is this $60 again?
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>>182439236

Dont you know how much time and effort CA had to put for those """"new""" animations
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>>182439236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq0zalTc-x4
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>>182439236
>game still has units fighting other units and a campaign map

WTF SAME GAME?!?!??!
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>>182438063
>Its just ridiculous you know? THe high elves seem to be the best of the best in a lot of ways but when it actually comes to it, they just suck. Completely. They got amazing weapons, amazing armor, monsters, are one of the best magicians. But somehow, they always lose.
They weren't trying to win the war.
Caledor was suing for piece right up to the point when Gortrek killed him.
While being a guest in an elven city under a flag of parley no less.
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>>182439484

That's new. Is that the Elf account of events?
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>>182438637
Literally how is that even possible
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>>182439596
Hardly new, but yes.
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>>182439638
DEI is babbymode battle difficulty
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Playing as the Greenskins today I realized why TWW often feels like it lacks replayability. The races are all different from each other, have different mechanics and different rosters- Beastmen for example don't have "proper" artillery (though obviously they have Cygors but that's not actually a cannon) while Dwarfs lack cavalry and Vampires lack archers. Meanwhile Vampires can raise dead, Bretonnians have ZE LADY and chivalry, Wood Elves have their special tree to upgrade and 10-slot cities and so on for each faction.

And this is the problem, each faction is unique from each other- which means if you hate a particular faction's playstyle you have fewer factions that you're going to want to play as.

What I mean is look at the map- Dwarfs and Greenskins extend all the way up into Kislev/Norsca while Empire occupies the entire center of the map and then there's Mousillon and the Red Duke in Bretonnia. Yet for the most part starting positions for many factions are either clustered near a specific area (FUCKING BADLANDS) or the fact that the Empire has 1 single starting area. Obviously for some like the Wood Elves there aren't really any other areas you can put them while for the Bretonnians and Beastmen they already have as much variety as they can in regards to starts. Clustering isn't even necessarily a bad thing- if Middenland was in game it would likely have a different impact on the game (obviously especially in regards to the first ten turns strategy of seizing Marienburg) but in general if the Empire is your favorite faction in terms of roster and mechanics you have to follow the SAME fucking plan every time the game starts no matter which lord you start as.
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>>182439664

>yes

Then it can't be relied on. Also

>They weren't trying to win the war.
>literally sent so many soldiers that his own advisors feared Ulthuan was being left defenseless
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This time the Romans pressure my harassment force.
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>>182432835
If the Chinese didn't intervene the Koreans might have been fucked.

While the Koreans had better artillery and naval tech, the Japanese had better infantry and equipment tech such as armor for even the grunts and a shitload of matchlocks.
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>>182439752
install radious then dingus.
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>>182434096
FOR ZE LADY
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>>182439776
Personally, I prefer refuse to aknowledge Matt Ward's attempt at "writing" whenever I can.

Different races having different accounts of events makes for a more entertaining setting.
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>>182439236
>completely different campaign map as large as that of the first game
>completely different campaign objectives and shit
>four completely new factions
>"y game full price"

Given that they sell race packs for 8 bucks each the game would be at least 45 dollars if they wanted to Attila it so I don't see why you're fucking crying. Given that they usually tack on another 10 dollars to a race pack to make it a campaign pack that would be 55 dollars. Given that it's the same size as the other game and both games will lock together to create an even larger map I don't see why another five bucks on top of that is so surprising.

Or is this just bait?
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>>182439928

Fair enough, I can understand that.
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Is there any historical basis for the Byzantine (Theme of Sicily/Republic of Venice) archers in AoC having higher base damage than equivalent archers from other factions (42 vs 38)? Did the Byzantines have more advanced bows/arrows? Or is it just a gameplay thing?
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>>182439942

>completely different campaign map as large as that of the first game

We don't know that for sure, we haven't seen the whole map yet.
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>>182439236

>Same, arguably larger amount of content with more polish
>"wtf why is this the same price?"
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>>182440082
They could have recruited nomad archers, who would be superior to European equivalents at the time.
Otherwise not really.
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>>182439752
Overall this is the reason why I assume a lot of people (myself included) feel like the game lacks replayability- it doesn't lack replayability in the sense of variety of starts, but the uniqueness of each faction means you're not going to want to play a faction you think is boring or annoying to manage and as a result if you only like, say, Dwarfs and Empire you only have 3 starts to play as regardless of the fact that those factions have 7 LLs together. In Rome 2 and Attila there were a billion generally similar factions with a variety of starts- if you enjoyed relatively similar mechanics and rosters you'd never get tired of it. But in Warhammer because CA didn't give each faction at least 3 starting positions (Wood Elves and perhaps Vampires excluded) the game exists in a state where eventually you get tired of taking back the Pillars of Grungni after a while despite the large amount of work put into making dwarfs unique. Because even if a faction is unique if the gameplan is the same every time then it gets old.

>>182439817
That isn't what I'm saying dingus
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>>182440083
>it turns out it's just The Old World, but upside down
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>>182439776

Why didn't someone get that hothead outta there?
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>>182440279
Total War: Age of Sigmar will have randomly generated campaign maps. You know you want it baby.
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>>182440083
So you were baiting then? Because they confirmed a long fucking time ago that each of these three games will have about the same number of fucking provinces. And frankly speaking there should be MORE provinces than the original since the original only spans the regions of the Old World and the Badlands/World's Edge Mountains while the second game has the regions of Naggaroth, Lustria, the Southlands (which will include Nehekhara once the Tomb Kings are released as the first campaign pack DLC) and Ulthuan- which is an overall larger area in Warhammer lore.
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>>182440338
Well, according to Matt Ward because Caledor and those around him were apparently all drooling retards.

Or, he might have been killed attempting to put an end to the senseless bloodshed.
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>>182440412
We already have that, it's called Endless Legend/Age of Wonders III/Dominions 4/any game involving fantasy, conquest and randomly generated maps
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>>182440452

I'm not >>182439236

Just pointed out that we haven't seen the whole map. I doubt it will be smaller but I don't for sure
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>>182439638
Mostly by positioning my main line way back on the map and all my skirmishers, cav and some backup spears on one flank. By the time they get close to my main line even if their troops are superior I can get some hardcore flanking action going. That and Getae are unarmoured ap inf: the faction.

>>182439743
Not so easy with faster battles submod and an unarmoured main line. If I just go for a standard line battle brawl my dudes eat shit hard.
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>>182440534
>I don't know for sure

It literally doesn't matter if you haven't seen the full map, it has the same number of provinces as the first game. That's why the three games put together will have the largest campaign map to date in a Total War game.
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>>182439664

>many times could Caledor have killed him, but he didn't, he wanted peace instead. Despite the fact that he had slaughtered many dwarfs already and racked up many grudges

What the hell was his problem?
Also what sort of rubbish writing is that?
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>>182439236

This new title is essentially an expansion in the classical meaning of the term.

You remember those 30 dollar expansions that added a new map and enemies? This is essentially what it is.
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Holy shit the Attila prologue is wayyy more difficult than the actual campaign. I've restarted like four times trying to beat the Huns, but they end up kicking the shit out of my armies since they outnumber me like 4-1.

Anyone got any advice?
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>>182440338

All hail Princess Caledor II !!
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>>182440623

It's the elves deluding themselves that their king was only killed because he was holding himself back.
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>>182440706

I don't remember Attila's prologue, was that the one where you play as goths and ends up with adrianople? I don't remember struggling with it.
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>>182440623
>Despite the fact that he had slaughtered many dwarfs already and racked up many grudges
He didn't.
The only real mistake Caledor made was having the guy who drew an axe on him shaved.

After that he immediatly tried to salvage the situation, which didn't work out because the "muh Grudge".
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>>182440831

Nice try knife-ear
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>>182440831

>four hundred and thirty seven pages in the Book of Grudges
>most for dwarfs slain by his hands

Doesn't seem like he helped the situation at all.
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>>182440338
Oh, as soon as there is aCaledor faction unlocker I'm raziong Kazak-aKarak to the ground and taking back the crown.
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>>182440623
It makes sense since it's the elves account of what happened, and elves are notorious lying faggots.
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im kinda new to this, loving total warhammer and shogun 2

how would you guys rank every entry in the tw series?
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>>182440706
Run away from the Huns like you're supposed to. You're not meant to be trying to fight them off.
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>>182440889
Why don't you go drinkig at Bugman's- oh, wait...

>>182440941
Half of those are probably some idiot who stupped his toe and somehow reasoned it was some elvish trickery.
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>>182440990

Personal favuorite list:

Attila
AOC
S2
FOTS
RTW
M2 (kingdoms)
Napoopan
Rome 2
Warhammer
Arena
Empire
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>>182439236
we have reload animations now!
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>>182440986
t. Lizardnigger
We never lie you do.
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>>182440990

Top 3:
Warhammer
Shogun2
Rome 2
Attila

Med 2 gets an honourable mention for mods.
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>>182439776
>implying the dwarf version of events can be relied on
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Main line is holding, falxes moving in for a rear charge.
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>>182440990
Rome > Warhammer >>>>>>>> everything else>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shogun
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>>182441310

That image is from the High Elf codex.
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>>182441248

I love how they abandoned Warhammer halfway

Some factions don't even have regiments of renown, other have missing units.
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>>182441343
I wasn't talking about the image
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>>182441343
DELET THIS
DWARF PROPAGANDA
CALEDOR II DINDU NUFFIN.
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>>182440990

1. Shogun 2. For the simple fact that it's the only TW that doesn't have some great flaw that needs mods to fix.
2. Rome 1. Boring looking combat, some broken units and the AI being utterly retarded are what keeps it (and it's expansions) from being number 1.
3. Warhammer 1. I love Warhammer (both the game and the setting) but I use a lot of mods to fix things that are pretty flawed (AI recruitment, sieges,) and the lack of some features (reload animations and combat animations for non-monster units) hold it back, so I can't rightly put it at the top.
4. Medieval 2. First TW I ever played. Still good but mods are why most people, me included, go back to it. Combat doesn't look nearly as good as I remembered it and the AI is just as retarded as in R1.
5. Empire and Napoleon. You NEED mods to make these two remotely challenging and there are some really dumb things about (like one province France). The grand scale is nice and I'm probably one of five people on Earth that like the naval combat, so I still have hundreds of hours in it.

I've tried Attila but the terrible combat animations made me drop it. Zero interest in Rome 2.
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>>182441343
Writtem by Matt "Malekith was the real Phoenix King all along, lol" Ward.
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Bugman's Brew is just fermented goblin piss - Which explains why the Dwarfs love it so much
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>>182439596
>Leave the Old World, there is no place for you here
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>>182441467
>For the simple fact that it's the only TW that doesn't have some great flaw that needs mods to fi
*Cough* Realm Divide *cough* *cough*
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>High King Thorgrim Grudgebearer
>Settles Grudges
>Killed Gorfang Rotgut himself
>Rides into battle in a giant pimp-chair
>Has an ingame model

>Phoenix King Finubar Seafarer
>Is literally a cuck
>Is responsible for turning Lothern into Lothburg, where less than 1/4th of the population are High Elves.
>Let's his wife's bull do all the battle stuff because he's too busy not doing shit.
>Does not have an in game model.

Helffags will defend this.
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>its another warmies infighting for dumb shit
Warmies biggest flaw is how dumb they are.
t. Slann
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>>182441549
Definitely better than mongols that you can either cheese out or outright ignore if you stay on the left of the map
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>>182441651
beyond question the worst elves, but even the least of elves is better than the dwarfs
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>>182441714
t. Carron Bloodflayer
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>>182441714
>elves is better than the dwarfs
Dwarves are shit, but elves are even worse.
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>>182441651
>The One and True Phoenix King Malekith
>Fucks the hottest elf in existence
>Killed countless members of lesser races
>Wear a swag as fuck golden mask and pimp armor
>Has the best ingame model

Lesser races get out of my face
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>>182441486

Most of that is actually copy pasted from somewhere else. The seventh codex, written by another guy, reads more or less the same.
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>>182441843
t. Arsechaon
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>>182441912
You what?
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>>182441714

Malekith, you're like 6000 years old and you still breastfeed, no one takes your opinion seriously.
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>>182441860
>Lives with his mom
>Is a dindu
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>>182441651
>Thorgrimm Grudgebearer
>creates more grudges than he settles
>bullies small human cities for spare change
>can't even reach his enemies from his portapotty, cuz his arms are too short

>Finubar the Seafarer
>Cruised around the world several times on his yacht
>Saved the world during the Great War against Chaos
>greatest statesman alive
>spends his day in Lothern scoring with elven and human chicks while delegating the actual fighting to others
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What kind of creature is a small, disgusting, vile brute, spawned from filth, spending the majority of its life in caves under the influence of disgusting mind-altering substances, forever stuck in an eternal war against another, equally foul race of creatures?
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>>182441651

war of the beard campaign fugging when?
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>>182442083
A dwarf
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>>182441860
>had is dick burned off by the divine fire of judgement
>has been throwing a hissifit ever since
>ran away from Teclis like a little bitch
>got cucked by the true king of Nagarrythe
>once got beaten up by a blind guy
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>>182442145

>got mary sue'd

FTFY
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>>182442083

A goblin, fighting the Skaven.
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>>182442135
If at all, way down the line.
Might be cool though; drakeriders and whatnot.
Not sure what the dwarfs would get though.
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>>182442235
>Skaven.
can you stop with those fake races?
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>>182441690
Still needs fixing.
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>>182442242

Anvils of Doom as a new artillery piece, I guess.
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>>182440338
>the Unnecessary
>the Long-nosed
>the Nervous
>The Frightened of Loud Noises
>the Pointlessly Tall

For fuck's sake
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>>182442242
oops, meant for >>182442105
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>attack Thorgrim who just underwayed near my ambushing army
>he loses on autoresolve
>he doesnt die

????????????????????????
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>>182440778
>>182441027
I looked it up, and apparently you're supposed to get a mission to run away from the Huns. I never got it, since I kept restarting to early when things were going bad enough for me that I couldn't see me winning.

>get mission to fight the Huns
>go fight the Huns
>lmao ur actually supposed to lose and not fight them xDDD

This is bad game design.
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Barbarbar
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What are some funny things you could do that would piss off a dwarf?

>teach a goblin/rat khazalid
>piss in their ale while they aren't looking
>carve your initials into some of their fancy stonework
>put a fake map to Karak Zorn on the highest shelf in your antique shop
>carry around your own little pocketbook of grudges and mock their stupid ritual
>constantly remind them of the superiority of the artillery and guns made in nuln
>teach a gobbo how to fly a stolen gyrocopter and to drop shaved slayers from the bomb bay
>tie up some dawi, put little hats on them, and use them as living yard gnomes
>paint a slayer w/ savage orc warpaint
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>>182442608

Outplayed manling.
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how long til we get the STUFF?
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>>182442651
your fault for save-scumming

>>182442083
>equally applicable to skaven, dwarfs, and goblins

lol
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>>182442792

You could be a europoor and repeat the same unfunny joke for the 50th time.
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good deal for you goyim
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My general in the north has been inching forward into Daorsi land looking for an ambush.

Turns out Athens had a stack nearby and killed most of their armies, giving me the option of sniping this city.
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>>182442956
Woops wrong image
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>>182442651
It's a tutorial m8, calm down. The point is to get across to the player that it's better to migrate in the early game than try and hold off the huns. I'd say it's actually good game design to teach you this in the tutorial rather than have to learn the hard way by losing your first proper campaign.
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>>182442792
>Capture a gobbo, give him a beard and call him Gobri Oakenheart: tallest and bravest of dwarfs
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>>182443064

Finally, a more lore accurate Tyrion model.
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>>182443056
It's annoying that the AI magically knows how much is in your treasury and ups its requests for gold accordingly.
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STUFF WHERE?
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>>182434096
UNLEASH HELL
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>that upkeep
why would you ever
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>>182443064
>Another stupid firesword
Well, add it to the modding list.
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N-no today?
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>today
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>>182443303
>>182443206
where was a second letter yersterday so we are supposed to get SOMETHING today.

TO
A
Y
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THERE IS NO TODAY
OK
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Will be any stuffs today?!
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High Elves seem super boring to play.

So many "have your cake and eat it too" units. Archers with shields and spears, 2h sword units with missile deflect, artillery which can freely change between both infantry and large.

It just lacks flavour, they take Empire's whole shtick of being well-rounded and beat em at it, especially since they'll probably have better magic too.
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Goddamit, CA, just tell me about preorder stuff and let's be done with it!
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>>182443554
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Empire has HANDGONNAS though
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>>182440831

Yeah he tried to salvage the situation by killing the High King's son. A real diplomatic move.
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>>182443820
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>>182443771
They don't have demigryphs. That automatically makes them infinitely more useless than the Empire.
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>>182443771
They just there to be slaughtered.
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>>182380327
Kharibdyss wouldn't be that hard to do if they're doing the Hydra as well. if anything it might be simpler given it's just a whole lot of tubes with teeth.

I think the Medusa, it's a one off animation set, plus it/cauldron of blood would make sense as a set piece unit of a LL pack. Neither are vital or iconic parts of delf armies.
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Uhh guys?!
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>>182443867
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>>182443984

Fuck you!
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>>182443984
We already saw that.
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OOGA BOOGA

WHERE DA SABINE WOMEN AT!?
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>>182444062
What is it about
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>>182444102
Dark Elves
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>>182444102
Missives usually tease an incoming trailer.

Typically the trailer concerns the faction the missive is about, rather than the faction sending the missive.

So expect a high elf trailer with them fighting dark elves within the next few days.
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>>182443984

>le pink digimon of delayed reaction
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>>182444265
There was one about skaven. Where is the skaven trailer, mr smartass?
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>>182443963
The Chaudron is pretty iconic...
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The one campaign I haven't been able to bring myself to complete is the orcs.

Are they just shit? Someone sell this faction to me please?
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>>182444526
Black orcs, doom divers and Arachnids famalam
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>>182444526
Badlands is shit. I wish they add playable orc hordes.
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>>182444340
That one was specifically said by CA not to be a leadup to a video, and only related to the skaven ritual

They felt the need to state this because of the precedent established by previous missives
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>>182426801

i played em in tabletop so im fucking hyped
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How many Syrian Elephants is too many Elephants?
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>>182444693
>Syrian Elephants
What
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>>182434096
WERE I WAS AS SWIFT AS THE ANGELS
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>>182444693
That elephant is fucking fabulous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ihs-vT9T3Q
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>>182444684
What happened to men who brought along cheese armies to table top competitions?
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>>182444558
What're the wizards like?

I really enjoy fighting against the orcs but they seem a bit... naff?

>>182444605
Yes and yes.
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WHERE IS MY STUFF!!

there was an emissive WHERE IS MY STUFF CA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182444937
THERE BETTER BE SOME STUFF OR SO HELP ME GOD
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>>182444854
Usually this.
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M-maybe they're just a little late?
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>>182444937
>>182445000
>>182445132
CA here
Teaser for the trailer will arrive exactly 24 hours after the missive.
There's another 90 minutes of waiting.
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>>182445187
>Teaser for the trailer
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>>182445187
T-thanks Grace
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>>182445187
Grace?

Post feet plz.
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>>182445187
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>>182444526
it's shit because you have to manage 40 units in to much battles
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>>182445187

We don't allow women in the Caliphate of /twg/
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>>182444937
MORTAL FOOOOOL!

This week's quota for stuff has been met. We're looking at another reddit ritual at most.
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>>182445187
Haha you are from CA too gossh haha
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Bwahaha

Good joke CA
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>>182444526
It's because of the Badlands.

KatW proved that the problem with Dwarfs and Greenskins wasn't the factions themselves so much as their location on the map.
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>>182445187
>Teaser for the trailer
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>>182445567
This means that the missive was the teaser for the teaser of the trailer.
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>>182366252
>not using this one
>>
LIVE GAMEPLAY TONIGHT
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>We're now live with CA Community Team Civil War in Total War: WARHAMMER I!

Fuck you Grace this ain't stuff.
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>>182445741
>Plus, some information on blood packs and a new stream that might be beginning...

I take it it will be a stream series dealing with TW sagas and not more glorious STUFF.
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>implying this is STUFF
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Got lucky with the battle map, only two gates and I can cover them both easily.
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>CA Community Team Civil War

b-but my missive ;-;
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Why does /twg/ keep being trolled by CA? Will you ever learn?
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>>182445741
I don't have enough memri images for this betrayal.
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>>182445741
THEY SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE WARHAMMER II

I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE CONTENT BUT IT'S NOTHING

I'M SO SORRY
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>>182394369
clickaty clack clack
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>>182439752
>>182440279
Also map ends up looking this same in every game, thus lowering replayability because
>There are more important factions like the Empire than the rest like Stirland and Middenland
>Because of dumb confederations those more important factions will always absorb those regular factions
>Because of unkillable LL those important factions will be always stronger than those normal factions
>Factions of Order tends to stick together against factions of Destruction resulting in this same alliances in every game.
>Old World sucks as a map desu, mountains shields everyone against everyone.
>Regional Occupation makes wars between Humans and Vampires against Dorfs and Greenskins pointless.
>Races were meant to fight only against their nemesis (Empire vs Vampires, Dorfs vs Greenskins) though this was fixed after all those dlcs, flcs and updates
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>>182445741
>>182445869
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>>182394369
nothing too ez mode pls
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You said today was the day you liars!
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>>182446636
Anon why you lied me? :,((
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>>182447135

It was all a scheme to disappoint you. You've been SCHEMED, son!
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>>182438430
>that one webm of that guy fucking his snek

Weird as fuck desu
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>>182446760
>>Because of dumb confederations those more important factions will always absorb those regular factions

What are you playing? Empire gets shit on everygame and does jack shit.

I get annoyed when a minor faction has a larger block than a major one, it's much better to fight against LLs than generic lord #12311231 I've already killed ten thousand times.

Similarly, because LLs and faction leaders are immortal they should at least retain some skills, so it won't be a case of the entire war being over as soon as I kill their general once.

Most repetitive part about it is the Chaos Invasion. I want to tackle a big late-game empire or VC powerblock, but that's nigh impossible.
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>>182447135
>centuries old poopoopeepee

Humanity truly hasn't evolved at all.
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New thread:

>>182447921
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>>182435675

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
SKU ... oh, wait ...
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>>182447620
What are you playing. Empire may be shit but always when Archaon comes they just confederate every other empire faction.
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>>182440279
do you think that might change then with warhammer 2? it seems like they're gonna give each LL they release a new starting position.
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