/parag/ - Paragon General

Shit
>>181790176

how the hell did we get archived in 20 minutes now theres no link to the new thread

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>182278812
>sargos
You have your pc back? I remember you asked a week or so ago.

Not the anon you replied to, but i can add you too.

So you are a yuro? Which country?

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This game looks cool. Is there a qt support character? Those are my favorite to play as.

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>>182282005
Nah, the supporters are not really cute.

Dekker has a nice ass i guess, that's it.

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>>182282005
yeah dekker. theres another but we dont talk about her

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>>182282005
If you want an op, broken, no-skill piece of shit "qt" with negative ass, play Phase

On the other hand, there's also pic related and Dekker

>when you smurf so you can learn how to jungle (rotations, timing, etc) without getting your shit pushed in
>pubstomp so hard you accidentally get to high gold before you even unlock the chars you want because Epic are fucking retarded locking chars behind days

>>182282005
Narbash

>>182281653
Yep, actually just had to replace the charger, so for now I'm available(yes, I'm a laptop scum, sorry, I travel a lot). Poland, but I have no trouble with English.

>>182282005
The two posted already and Phase, which is currently universally hated for being an overpowered and really annoying shit though.

>5 threads in a row at bump limit
proud of ya /parag/ our little general is growing up so fast

>>182284784
Actually the last one got archived prematurely I think and I'm not really sure why

>>182285372
There was some furfag raid that killed a bunch of threads here and on /v/.

>>182285372
it was only 6 posts away from the limit and as >>182285547 said there was outside influence anyway. im counting it as 5 in a row

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Thank you for your advice and recommendations. I don't know anything so her being OP doesn't mean anything to me, but this Phase person looks fun. I like linking to a friendo and being their buddy. Some characters I like from dota/hots/league/overwatch/tf2/smite do that same sort of thing.

It looks like Belica gets to control a robot, that's pretty cool too so I'Il try her out first.

>>182286403
you just drop the robot and it does and aoe mana drain, you don't really control it. Belica is still the best midlaner, so you should give her a go.

>>182286403
>>182286947
It also shocks enemies if they use an ability in said area. the mana drain is meant as a setup for her ultimate which does more damage depending on how much mana the target is missing

>>182286403

Belica is more of a CC caster than support though.

which girl is the best kisser?

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>>182292535
Serath of course.

Have you seen her dsl's?

>>182292670
She's in some kind of a convent or order though, she's quite possibly a kissless virgin.

I'd vote Phase, she probably dates chads left and right.

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>>182292670
>best kisser
>best dsls
>best bjs
>best eyes
>best ass
>best boobs
>best bush
is there anything mommy can't do

>>182293647
>best bush
that seems to subjective to decide upon since tastes vary so much

>>182293802
>natural and thick but not a wild forest, perfectly accentuating her milfy look
>natural blonde or firecrotch
i dont see how you could make an argument otherwise

>>182294227
>i dont see how you could make an argument otherwise
i prefer my girls bald or with only a small tuft of bush

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>>182293163
>Phase grew up being experimented on
>Probably has daddy and dependency issues since she needs to link to a buddy
You know Phase is ready to take some dick/aggressive bush if you so much as even pat her on the shoulder encouragingly

>>182294464
What are you, gay or a pedophile?

>>182295908
>What are you, gay or a pedophile?
neither i just don't like body hair on anyone myself included.

>>182294464
how absolutely nice that everyone has their own tastes that we should all respectthough bush is best

>>182294963
i think everyone would agree phase is the biggest cumslut

Playing muriel is funny as fuck. You just watch everyone flipping their collective shit as you play dodgeball with her awful orb. I feel more productive as a damn riktor.

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>>182298715
get fucking good shes better than phase

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>>182296434
/parag/ didn't establish that she was the main buttslut for no reason, anon

>>182300987
i thought we went with belica to avoid work related complications

>>182300987
>>182302115
>Belica and Phase double dildoing

>>182300987
middle girl is a pornstar but why is the right one a butt slut?

>>182302545
>Doesn't know Sasha Grey

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>>182302701
i know all about her but what does she have to do with porn

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>>182302539

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>>182302539
TETHER
2
TETHER

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>>182302787
>i know all about her but what does she have to do with porn
>Sasha Grey

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>>182302787
>Nobel prize

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>>182302787
>"Several sources list her as a former pornographic actress"
>>>>>>>"[Citation needed]"

>>182300987
which one has the horse pussy?

>>182304914
Phase

so with the card rework seeming to get rid of all the current cards for brand new ones what was everyones favorite card from the current set

>>182308086
Tainted magick cause shinbi and hydroconvert for belica

>>182308086
>seeming to get rid of all the current cards for brand new ones

They never said that, right now the only thing confirmed is there are at least 100 card changes, this could be 100 new or replacing/changing 100 current which is nothing considering each affinity has 100

My guess is they're starting from the base up so Universal cards will see the MOST change

next thing is that affinities are getting different names ( for lore reasons...who cares?) and on top of that we might actually see benefits to using non universals on characters, there seems to be affinity bonuses???

+1

+1

Is there an actually viable Murdock build?

>>182315289
not really he's almost as bad as grim

Did they hard Nerf Yin? Haven't played since March I remember she could 1v5 at 20m with 1/4 build

>>182318065
They nerfed her, don't remember if hard though

>>182318065
Minor nerfs - Lash Kick was the main hit she took, it's pretty much worthless as an escape now. She's still good though.

Q. What could they do, big or small, to make this game better
>inb4 "fire cam". at least be clever if you're gonna meme answer anon

l'll read in the morning if we're still alive

>>182318949
>top end hero balance, the game constantly has 2-3 characters who are out of line with everyone else to the point where they always get picked in every match. this is a problem going all the way back to legacy where the team who didn't have a rampage/muriel lost
>remove the stupid ass attack movement penalty, they constantly jerk themselves off about muh positional mastery and then let anyone be as dumb as they want unless you get rooted or stunned since you can just turn around and run from anything
>more fucking skillshots enough lock on bullshit its not my fault ps4 players can't aim
>extremely lewd skins for all the waifus

heres a bump so you can be alive when i wake up

sparrow is best girl

I'm fighting Morigesh and Rampage in the safelane right now

Don't fucking die!

Morning bamp

>>182318949
Firing Cam isn't a meme answer, that dumbass is literally ruining the game single handed

Can somebody explain to me how exactly it works with the xp?

Why do you get more xp on the offlane?

>>182335510
leveling up during the match in the offlane?
Stay around enemy minions as they die

>>182335791
>Stay around enemy minions as they die
So when two heroes are there, the xp is split to both of them?

Makes sense.

>>182336112
Yeah the more heroes there are the more the xp is split between who is around.
So you'll have a hard time in the offlane, but you should be leveling up faster than them

How do I Crunch?

>>182338187
You punch
Seconding the question though

>>182303234
That scene was disturbing.

>>182338187
A Crunchanon answered this a while back, right down to the optimal ability/ auto order for his combos. Hang around and hopefully he'll be back to tell us again, but the gist of it was that you should break up each ability used with an auto attack and then Re-Crunch at the right time.

Shit, bump

morning /parag/, how does everyone feel about wraith now that he has the old murdock ult on a 6 sec cd?

>>182343915
I hate Wraith.

As a newfag, are there any good video/stream resources for learning the game?

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New character teaser image is out

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>>182344903
>New character is a furry
MAXIMUM BUSH OVERLOAD JESUS CHRIST EBIN'S GONE MENTAL! THE MADMAN ARE LURKERS IN THE THREAD

>>182344486
If you want hard math on how to build stuff you can start by watching Sylphin.
After that try searching for stuff like "how to jungle" and then when you want to learn a hero just search "[hero name] tutorial/how to play [hero name]"
Then there are sites that you can look at to copy/learn how to build an optimal deck for the current meta like agora.gg

There is also a FAQ in the op

>>182344486
Don't watch Blood Thirsty Lord. Everyone in OCE hates him and you will too.

>>182345379
Thanks, I've been through the FAQ and wanted something to watch during the downtime while I install the game

>>182345445
Noted, is there a reason?

>>182345379
except slyphin's math is almost always wrong. Go watch pcl, pick a player in the role you want and go through their replays and see how they build shit.

>>182345757
He's a massive attention whore faggot

>>182345757
>>182345871
Also there have been tournaments for this game already at twitch tv/ParagonCompetitiveLeague
Watch the vods/copy replay ID's and try to pay attention to what your favorite role is building /how they're playing

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>>182344903
>furbait character

>>182344903
Ah, shit. Bad enough that all of the spergs never shut the fuck up about Iggy, now they have actual furshit to harp on forever. What are the odds it's just going to be bipedal humanoid, like every other fucking release?

so tired of diamond soloq being filled with 5 stacks. I have to smurf to enjoy this fucking game.
>inb4 play well and get key picks to swing fights
phase exists making any good play negated by someone hitting one button. Higher elo games are the fucking worst

>>182349137
>phase exists making any good play negated by someone hitting one button.
fucking this everytime i hear idiots still try to defend phase with "just dive her brah" i lose my mind. her issues with ruining the game arent in teamfights outside of her ult, her main destruction of the game is that its fucking impossible to get picks on anyone in games where people have a slight idea of what they're doing and that makes every fucking match end up in a 10 man gangbang all or nothing fight around 30 minutes and then whoever wins it is gg

Good to hear Phase remains the worst thing to happen to the game at every Elo.

>still no paragon trading card game

>>182344903
>Finally an alien character instead of straight human
>Instead of trying something more original it's just a fucking furry
>To make matters worse it looks like a female cat-alien, probably the most overused furry sci-fi race ever

>>182345189
>half the camposts are actually cam himself

>>182354886
>Cam unironically lurking the threads to know how to avoid improving the game
pls god no

>>182354886
>>182355248
>He thinks all those ironic posts with his face are actually appreciations of his "original take" and won't stop doing it.

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>>182355686
I appreciate all community feedback as collecting data is very important for delicately balancing our heroes. We are lucky to have such a vocal and inspiring community on reddit and other forums! We hope you will continue to help us all as we bring sustain back to the offlane!

>>182356880
I want to strangle all life out of this faggot, pluck his eyes and shit into sockets

>>182357463
>Phase would pull him away before you could kill him

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>>182356880
>that file name
fuck me i kek'd

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>>182356880
where are the summertime bikini skins you fuck

>>182356880
Have they ever acknowledged "other forums" on the Community Corner? As far as I know, they only ever talk about Reddit and the official forum. If they know we exist, they must surely hate us.

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>>182357612

>go for the July mega vault

>work really fuckin hard to win games

>finally get it


I get a fucking xp boost for one win


>more like jew-ly mega vault

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>>182358101
due to lore considerations concerning agora's temperate climate and our dedication to maintaining a serious atmosphere, the dev team has decided not to implement low effort skins. Instead enjoy our dedicated artists' unique and diverse color variations for your favorite hero skins!

>>182359526
Stick with it, anon: you're statistically likely to get something you want eventually.
Well, maybe not "likely", but the possibility will always be there.

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>>182360674
>statistically likely
>possibility
That's how they get you

>>182359526
>>182360674
>Tfw I got a golden key on first and only monthly vault I opened and a T3 skins from the chest I've opened with it
>Only now realised how lucky I must have been with the shitty drop rates

I've gotten Deep Sea Snakebite, Crimson Inquisitor and Magma Grux as well as some keys (on top of shrapnel and rep), so the only thing you can do is keep playing. I know you're not guaranteed to get anything good, and the drop rates are horrendous, but there'll always be new shit and you'll always have at least a chance, even if the odds are smaller than Cameron's dick.

Ebin is making a contest for art of one of the new cards, with the best one being put into the game, if any drawfags here are interested. Also what the fuck is a swag bag? It's some kind of secondary award for that

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>>182359526
>>182360674
>>182363541
>>182364537
only thing ive wanted in the vault is the forest skin for bushbae and i got it the first time i rolled it.

>>182364774
I'm interested. Time to hold my breath and venture on over to the Reddit for details, I guess.

>>182366218
no need here ya go
https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/the-agoran-art-trial

What elo is sylphin actually?

Because i feel like he is a pretty mediocre player.

>>182366427
his profile is public
https://agora.gg/profile/431726/Sylphin
and hes really shitty he wouldn't even be as high as he is if he didn't sometimes 5 stack with other streamers

>>182366310
Much obliged.

I'm going to start saving my chests for the next month, because I just opened a Diamond and got 4 crafting materials. Good idea?
If the card rework is going to be as drastic as they claim, the RNG for materials might change. I'm already sitting on 30 card packs and a million rep anyway, so I may as well.

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So this is presumably what the offlane will look like after the update?

>>182370496
Isn't it a concept from before even the first rendition of Monolith? Judging from the new art we got, they seem to rather move away from these concepts

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>>182370724
I just figured that was an internal render that they were working towards, didn't realise it had been abandoned.
That's a shame, I was hoping for things to look less "clean" (like in that picture). I suppose there's nothing saying the finished map won't go in the same general direction, though.

>>182369002
no point in opening anything until they roll out the changes, worst case scenario is that they're turbo jews and make everyone re-earn all the new cards instead of just replacing them if you already have the full set

So, what's the best position for Wraith after all?
>inb4 in trash

>>182374321
mid, hes good at rotations can farm safely with his right click and gets free vision. he doesnt have the durability or splitpush game for offlane

>>182374321
Midlane

He is useless on every other position in my opinion.

but i am just a bottom gold shitter, so my opinion is invalid i guess

>>182374137
Yeah, that's my thinking too. They'd never do that, though: too many people have been getting screwed with chests full of material and packs for them to pull them.
>you want skins and emotes?
>tough, here's some Algae
>psyke, we're taking that away too

Do you think they'll buff Grim back into being good in August? I don't know it it's worth spending coins on his skins while they're discounted, but I would love to main him again.

>>182375196
Grim's problems are
>His hitbox is way too big
>His ult is a worse version of Rev's Obliterate
>His displacement orb doesn't work
>He's a utility carry in a game where pure damage on carries is just objectively better
3 of those can be fixed with simple kit changes and the change to gamestyle that the new card system is supposed to bring, plus they already mentioned he's getting updated. I'd say go for it if you really like the skin

>>182375196
Grim's still very usable, he's just off-meta because his ult is shit and other carries like Sparrow are just better.
Epic are probably well-aware of Grim's place in the hierarchy; buy the skin you want, stay loyal to your character and your time will come eventually.
Otherwise, just put away a tiny amount of money every week until he's buffed into relevance, then get the skin at regular price.

>>182375841
All he really needs is increased damage and shortened animation on his ult and his orb working less unexpectedly. This, and fixing the fact that he can't target anyone standing too close to him

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>>182366685
how the fuck do you go 9-5 with rev, i'm 25-1 with him and i suck ass

>>182377146
But he is not playing against unranked players though.

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>>182352753
She's annoying to get rid of

even if you run powerchord or thickblood which are expensive as fuck he kit is over tuned.

I don't know how they expect an offlaner to hold any tier tower versus a phase duo

If your mid and jungle can't or won't gank you have to win a 1v2 with someone who can blind you, slow you, root you and boost herself AND her ally.

I haven't played other mobas but compared to say OW we'll use mercy it's just a 50% dmg boot OR healing she has to choose so killing bother or either isn't that hard. TF2 you can just wait out the uber from Medic or knock both back. In most other games supports upgrade like ONE thing to their target and self in Paragon Phase gets about a billion

Thickblood sucks on casters that can't spam and powerchord is too expensive like earlier, at least Purity Censer as expensive as it is completely fucks Aurora but there's nothing you can really do to hinder Phase long enough because of the duration of that fucking ult


She has lack luster card counters and there no real hero counters either.

ATTENTION SILVER SHITTERS:

Still in silver because you get paired with retard teams constantly? How about you get fucking good? If you're there you fucking BELONG THERE LMAO

Still I present to you the chance to get boosted if you feel you're worth it

https://agora.gg/profile/6107583/DontReadThisName

Better add me up before that ELO gets cranked up too high for ya

>>182380808
>wanting to deal with higher elo players and their toxic bullshit
>wanting to deal with long ass queues
>wanting to deal with the bullshit mm (-3) elo losses
>wanting to be flamed by tryhards for playing anything not meta
>wanting to deal with the constant 5stacks
>wanting to see phase in every.fucking.game
>you are boosting lower guys because you want to get the fuck away from higher elo games for a bit
I have like 3 smurf accounts because everything above plat is so much worse than dealing with silvers. Heed my warning and stay the fuck out of higher elo games, it doesn't get better.

>>182381406
sweet spot is 1600 anything more is autism and 5 stacks anything less is ps4 shitters and crit build countess

>>182381406

>you are boosting lower guys because you want to get the fuck away from higher elo games for a bit

lmao called the fuck out, its true. I wanna keep this smurf in gold but they always end up so much higher bleegghhh

>>182382745
jungle riktor helps me have fun and keep things nice and casual.

>>182383139
Oh, hi Sylphin.

Didn't looked like you enjoyed it today though.

>>182383579
Would have a hearty kek if it turned out that autism man himself frequents our general

>>182384740
>heres a 40 minute long video with pixel by pixel comparison of each girls lips adjusting for face shape to determine who REALLY has the best dsl's

>>182384740
Not enough optimism and positiveness in parag for him.

He almost went tilt on a bad twinblast in one of his previous vids though.

>>182385618
Fucking lol.

which waifu is the best cook

>>182388534
>ywn have dekker cook you an exotic alien on a spare bunsen she had at the lab
>eat liver with fava beans with countess
>eat homemade ice cream with aurora
>try to hold down an MRE with belica after she burnt the pasta
>have mommy cook you a healthy refreshing meal in an apron
god is cruel

>>182389996
>not having mommy make food with her natural body heat
pleb

>>182390238
isn't she really nervous about THAT side? I would guess she only accidentally flares up when she loses control.

>>182390540
This.

Only when you say a wrong thing and she gets really angry at you, you'll see her in flames.

Or when she has an orgasm

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i cant think of waifu related questions to bump with right now heres a picture of /ourboy/

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>>182393773
>implying /ourboy/ is not the sexy and handsome Sevarog
His strong hands drive me crazy.

Look how tiny and fragile Kwangs hands are. He can barely even hold his sword.

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>>182394296
Anon, Sev is great, but it's pretty much universally agreed here that Kwang is in fact /ourboy/

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>>182389996
>mommy wearing nothing but an apron

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>>182385618
>tfw you unironically want this

>>182389996
>yin forcing YOU to do the cooking actually
>Phase warming up nothing but microwave dinners
>Gadget making blunders of whatever she see's on the cooking channel
y evn live 2bh fellers
>>try to hold down an MRE with belica after she burnt the pasta
made me kek

>>182396508
>that filename and pic combination
fuggin saved

Good night bamp

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>>182399750
serath would still win those dick pillows are just too pristine

>>182403186
>>182399750
>>182385618
>sylphin delivers
>compares only the males
and sev would win off a technicality considering his entire face hole is an orifice.

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>>182394296
I'd give sevarog my soul for his 140th stack <3

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>>182403757
>and sev would win off a technicality considering his entire face hole is an orifice.
>>182404089
>I'd give sevarog my soul for his 140th stack <3
S-stop thinking such lewd things anon-kun's!
B-B-B-B-BAKA!

>>182406590
Nani?

Gimme your best Sparrow/Yin decks boys. Or is TB the best carry now?

>>182408430
tb rev and serath are top carries, sparrow would round it out if you dont like the melee

crit/crit bonus worth on Kwang?

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When will we get the option to filter out PCucks? I'm sick of playing with these terribad retards that spend half the match whining in chat

>>182410307
nah /ourboy/ is a great frontliner get a radient and a bloodsoaked on him fill it out with an adamant edge or two, ward and your stasis

>>182408430
When I get home I will give you my sparrow build that I use, it's pretty alright for solo carry mid-late game

>>182410970
>you can still type chat on ps4 with arguably ( objectively ) worse players

>>383655502
kek

>>182412959
shit, just go to /v/ and alt f graphics

mubp

Can someone teach me how to play crunch?

good night /parag/ hopefully someone thinks of a good waifubait question to keep us alive through the really slow hours

dead time bump

Don't you die on me fag!

Wake up.

>>182430417
Grab a brush and put a little makeup

How fucked are my SEAfriends by the ping if they wanna join me in this.

What the fuck is wrong today?

>play morrigesh
>have fun and go 23-0, carrying entire teams of shitters
>play anything else
>lose

Why is morrigesh so fun and stronk?

>>182436641
The big 3 are STILL the big 3 those "nerfs" were probably just a band aid for v42

I have a feeling they'll be lacluster after that

>>182436641
Because she is a no skill hero.

And you are actually a bad player with no skill.

Sorry.

>>182438061
Ouch, ice cold anon

does this game have competitive system, elo/mmr or something or will it have in the future
>inb4 pastebin
wasnt anything there

Word is that they have Yuri fucking Lowenthal lined up to do Twin's voice work. That man needs to either increase his range or gtfo.

>>182438493
There's an internal mmr that Epic use, but the community goes by the (unofficial) ranking at agora.he. There's also paragon.gg, but no one really uses that.

>>182438595
*agora.gg

>>182438061
kek probably you're right

There is something unique about marking a faggot and throwing a dot on him, then going back to base and ulting him from there.
I can't stop playing her.

Redpill me on Countess.

Is Power/Mana the way to go with her? I saw a nigger build crit on her but something tells me that he was a PS4 shitter using babby's first original deck.

>>182436641
Because she's literally "no skill required" hero and an overpowered one at the same time. She and Khaimera are two most braindead friendly heroes in the game

>>182438493
It's in OP post. For now, there is only unoficial ranking sites, actual ranked matches are to be added in the future

why we so dead all of a sudden? everyone just waiting for the big update?

BRING BACK DUNKING

>>182440448
power/abilty pen throw a blink and stasis on there too. never build mana or basic pen in the current system they're worthless

>>182447938
>everyone just waiting for the big update?
Pretty much.
Not much else to discuss about the game except playstyles and bush I guess.
I've been trying to learn Crunch but I don't see Punch-bot being more useful than Kong Dong, Sevarog or /our boy/ for the late game

How do I squeeze the most damage possible out of an ADC? Like, how much crit, attack speed and damage should I build to have the optimal squishy removal capabilities? Any specific cards worth a look? Also what about pen?

>>182449262
Who is Kong Dong?

Wukong? How is he a jungler?

>>182378602
Does Steel have a nose ring?

>>182452117
I like to think it's some kind of Sci-fi shit to help him out when he's doing the atmospheric slam-jam, like his bio implies.

I haven't played an actual game of Paragon in over a week, just co-op to get stars and shit.

I appreciate not having constant balance changes to the whole roster, but there needs to be an eye kept on brand new heroes. Letting this shit go buck wild for weeks because of muh internal playtesting kills interest.

They should just take a page out of their Wraith release book; release them underpowered to help players get used to them, then buff them up later once salt reserves have fallen.

>>182453098
They did it right with Wraith and Wukong, so I would like to believe they've actually learned how to not make heroes overpowered at release. But knowing their stupidity I can't comfort myself with such believe.

>>182449262
I wish ebin was more open about the updates instead of just Soon™ Could have had a weekly reveal of each new change and really gone in depth on everything, and then concluded with them uploading a full match of their all important testing games to show off everything about the new system. Instead we just get "Whole game is changing in a month see you there."
Guess the general will just have to survive off of finding ways to get Serath's dsls into Sparrows bush until then

>>182447938
Why haven't we learned our lesson? The first "big update" was supposed to be in march but didn't end up dropping until may...and the reworks didn't do shit for the meta. Plus it added phase. Kallari is still unplayable. So is Iggy. Greystone is still inferior to Kwang in every way. Steel is still garbage. Somehow Murdock, who was far and away the best carry at one point, is now power creeped so hard he's almost grim tier.

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>>182455890
Thanks for your input but please try in the future to keep your criticism a little more constructive.
At one time we thought that the main thing holding us back was the map so we returned the game to an alpha state and brought you the great gameplay of Monolith that everyone now enjoys today.

However after release of Monolith we noticed increasing complaints about the viability of specific heroes on our roster, this shocked us as our internal testing games show almost every hero as being perfectly balanced with each other, therefore in order to help the community reach the level of gameplay we see in our testing games we've introduced a new and exciting economy and card system that will give everyone tons of new options.

As you can see unlike all the previous times we said an update would fix the game, it really will happen this time so you have nothing to worry about. I hope to see you on the fields of Agora on August 8th as we usher in Paragons new future!

>>182455890
They did drop one in march as well, the anniversary one. And both did fix some things and made the game better, it's just that they didn't fix it all or REALLY changed things around.

everyone keeps asking for it but no one ever gives any details what lewd skins would you want to see in the game /parag/?
can also just be any type skins you want to see but the waifus always get more posts to keep the thread alive

>>182457021
Cam how should I finesse this bitch I'm trying to fuck on Friday

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>>182461771
I just want more yellow skins

If this day for out thread would had been a match, it would have made surrender

>>182465843
Things will pick up for the community corner, then again for the new hero. If we hold out until August, things should start getting much busier.

>like playing pretty girls
>like playing supports
>Serath is prettiest but not a support
Dekker is pretty fun and she's pretty cute though. Seems I've found my favorite character.

>>182465843
we just had 5 threads hit the limit when we used to not be able to reach 150 posts even with the bumps. things just slowed down because of the big update. we're still on our way /parag/ dont lose hope

>>182467037
She's also the second best support right now. Hopefully the best one again when they finally nerf Phase to the ground

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>>182461912
The first thing you need to know is that the game starts at the draft. Make sure you counterpick and set yourself up for success. For example I love the sight of a girl with 0 curves and a purple sidecut, dressed like she's going to a poetry slam reading about intersectional feminism so I try to counterpick that by looking like a 45 year old STEM major who still lives with his mother and has saved up enough money to support her and any of her sons.

Second is your positional mastery, I dont actually know what this means even though I talk about it all the time because I'm really just using it as an excuse for how broken some of the characters I make are but I would guess Bill Cosby was pretty good at it, maybe copy him?

I can't really help you anymore than this because anytime I bring a nice lady back to the Epic offices she ends up getting dragged into joining our playtest game sessions with KL and Mooney while I play DOTA2 and think of how much better it is than Paragon

Where can I buy paragon merchandise? I love the game and I just wanna get some of the "paragon swag" that cam himself offers

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>>182468356
Fucking savage.
Is Cam the Anthony Burch of /parag/?
Nah, even Cam's not that bad

gonna start playing some aurora in the hope she'll actually be good post update wish me luck bushbros

So did the cucks at Epic really gate the heroes based on days played?

>>182474234
Retarded, isn't it?

>>182474472
It's fucking stupid is what it is. This coming from a guy who got perma banned because going AFK for 2 minutes constitutes for racism even though I came fucking back to help the team win.

who got the best legs /parag/

>>182478267
Serath of course.

>>182478267
I must admit that Shinbi is pretty good in this department

>>182478939
>Shinbi with the most boring design possible
>good legs
She is almost as ugly as Phase.

>>182480276
Legs are pretty much the only thing she's got going for her, she doesn't even have nice tits for fucks sake.

Keep up the pace and quality of the post, lads, I'm off to bed.

>>182410040
bite and chew you don't want to choke

brazilians should all be exterminated

game has crashed 3 times in this match so far great game epic

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>>182489514
Why don't you like Khaimera?

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>>182468356

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>>182480276
>She is almost as ugly as Phase.
>Shinbi actually has curves
>You can see that her ass still curves out as she stands up straight
>Near Serath tier hips-to-butt ratio
>Long legs and actual thighs
>c cups to grab on to
This hating on Shinbi meme is really starting to grind my skateboards

>>182478529
i think this would be one of the few where mommy doesnt win, i'd go with sparrow

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>>182473795
my thoughts so far
>shes very fun to play
>shes also terrible
>needs her scaling on her abilities brought up, she hits for nothing even if you stack her with power.
>been going tele-blink, ward, traitors, tuned barrier, tempered plate and thickblood on her. once shes blown her ult and circle she's worthless anyway so i dont see the point of stasis to keep me alive in the fight especially with how mobile she is
>really hope she gets something noteworthy in the upcoming patch she's really fun to play but she's just too terrible to actually play seriously
>she either got a fucking massive buff to her tit size or i just never noticed how much those things were popping when i played a couple games with her when she first got released.

why we so dead bros we were on such a roll recently

>>182501325
I'm so glad she's awful release Aurora was just shy of Phase tier

>>182506020
>I'm so glad she's awful release Aurora was just shy of Phase tier
>If a hero is great nerf them into the ground
>complain about not enough heroes being viable/good
Am I grossly overgeneralizing or am I noticing a pattern?

>>182506254
Aurora's Hoarfrost used to root you for about 4 second pre-nerf, iirc. Shit was broken.

>>182506254
aurora was broken as fuck when she first came out, she wasn't phase tier because purity ruined her so she actually had a legit counter but it was still pretty bad.
>trying out all these new characters like aurora on a smurf because i dont wanna tank games on my mid plat account
>people in gold are slavishly devoted to the meta and 4 out of every 5 lobbies disband
>my last plat game had a legitimate iggy pick and no one cared
the meta doesn't make you not shitters you retards i just wanna play the game

ded

still ded

>>182370496
This is what Monolith was supposed to look like, I'm guessing they wanted a swampy look around the river.
>>182371250
This was Legacy though, this was already a thing.

this thread is so dead that i can confess on losing 11 of my last 12 matches without anyone making fun of me

>>182506660
I remember it wasn't THAT long but as >>182507694
pointed out, she can be made useless with purity, Hunter's guile and a few other cards so it was her last useful tool. She was good but she wasn't broken

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>>182521170
No she was broken. Her kit wasn't broken like phase's is but her scaling and root was. She could build a full crit/lifesteal build and combine it with her escapes and the fact that any engagement she had would involve everyone being unable to move for 8+ seconds if she got ult+root. She was totally broken they just went way overboard when they nerfed her. She needed a drop on her basic scaling so she couldnt out dps carries and her root didn't need to be 4 fucking seconds at level 1 but her ability damage was fine and her health was ok,
They made her root at max level shorter than it was at level 1 previously, made all her scalings shit so she can hit ult root and whack on a carry the entire time and still not kill them, changed how her ult did damage, and nerfed her health on top of that while she still gets countered instantly by a stasis or purity.

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>>182521904
So what you're saying is... She needs a buff now?

since this thread will most likely be dead when i wake up i just want everyone to know serath is my waifu

>>182501325
Aurora has always been a babe, you just couldn't enjoy it before.

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Whiterman

Q is a burning cross that does fire damage to enemy minions and heroes

E is a Passive that gives bonus damage against non white/non human enemies, and a buff for nearby white allies

Ultimate is an Ultimate is an ethnic cleansing, all non white heroes on map are deleted (including allies)

Right click shoot a rope that can slow and root, like an energy lance

>>182522878
Not him, but i think Aurora is fine now.

>>182525976
>in a 5vs5 teamfight
>uses ult
>1vs5 now
>gets massacred by 5 non whites

>>182527924
Delet

whats the consensus on revenant i was planning on playing him

>>182529865
Best carry right now. I think his pick rate dropped because he got needed and shitters can't abuse his Q to get free kills anymore and have to actually aim. He will melt any character if he's allowed to farm even a bit.

>>182530140
how do i get really good with him

>>182531801
Yesterday i played him because nobody else wanted to play adc, and i really sucked.

But my Phase sucked, too. And the jungler didn't gank a single time.

>>182532116
I think I'll stick to playing him only with friends then

>>182532186
He is good, but as a ps4 player it's hard to hit every bullet.

And when you miss 2, it takes you so long to reload and you have the disadvantage.

If you are a pc player or not as bad as me at aiming with controller, you should be fine.

>>182501325
>>182521904
Damn, she's cuter than I thought

>>182533094
I don't like how her face looks.

Especially on her profile pic in Paragon she looks kinda weird.

But her ass is underrated though.

>>182533220
Well yeah, it looks like shit on profile pic, that's why I have never cared about her much, but I really like it in this ingame pic and concept art.

Who are good female junglers?

>>182534296
Yin is okay in lower elos i think.

People say Serath can't be used as a jungler, but i think in lower elos it could work.

I make a bamp

>>182539348
I'll make another one then

I make another bamp.

6 of the last 10 posts are mine. What is going on today?

>>182542972
Nothing. Same as yesterday. And that's the problem

How would you make mastery skins more interesting and worth chasing after? Having the same, not even particularly interesting design for everyone is kinda lame, especially with the amount of grind needed to unlock them.

>>182545481
Each character should have a unique skin unlocked at level 10.

Not in this black/red colours, just a unique skin in random colours. Should be cool looking of course.

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/new-hero-reveal-zinx
All right, this must be the most waifu baitish hero we got so far, but I must say that I really like the pulpy sci-fi flavour.

>>182549441
She looks like complete shit.

Even Phase is hotter than her.

>>182549441
>>182550960
Yeah, I get what they were going for (Barbarella style space adventurer), but she looks like absolute shit, visually. Also, yet another wasted opportunity to have a non-humanoid character.

>carry taking their time farming in front of you because they're confident you're not going to try anything with their support around
>quick-draw sword tether ult them as they realise they're being ganked
What a feeling, but still better is saving a teammate that comes to gank from the counter gank by nailing the enemy through the fog and finishing them with lightning.

>>182553815
I wish i was good enough to play Kwang.

Sadly i am a shitter...

>New hero revealed and not a single comment on her abilities
Are we so dead or is she so shit? She's going to be another "what the fuck is even my role?" character like Wraith, isn't she?

>>182554391
Just get a feeling for the tether and how it interacts with the map, and then figure out who you can 1v1 (almost everyone, but especially squishies, as long as they haven't got a sizeable lead on you). After that, all you need to get an understanding for is your ability unlock order (I prioritise my shock and passive over my Q, generally).
Offlaning with Kwang is great if you get the rhythm down:
>mana potion and healer token, conserve your mana unless you need some armour or to clear a particularly big wave
>farm white camp at 1:20, get back into tower right on time to deal with the first wave that pushes in
>at most, two lane minions will have died, so you don't miss the xp, and you get cxp that you otherwise wouldn't have gotten
>keep rotating back to the camp every minute after you repel a wave to keep it cleaned up
>use your right click for temporary armour and then body block the carry's attack to force them out of tower to keep it longer
>etc.
If they have no Phase, you can bully the shit out of the carry once you hit level 5, especially if you're good at landing your tether.

>>182555084
She looks boring as fuck, and she's furbait to boot.

>>182549441
character design is terrible furbait and the kit seems weird. that multi stun and ult are either gonna be broken or her damage numbers will be shit and she'll be worthless

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>these are the types of people Ebin lets develop their game through feedback

>>182533094
I said last thread that Aurora was really underrated here. /parag/ seems to be split between Serath and Belica and which one of them gets to sexually assualt Sparrow

>>182553815
>be master shinbi off lane
> enemy phase and sparrow duo being a group as fuck. Struggle till level five
>Wait till the next wave comes in to attack my t1
>television blink to the phase behind sparrow as she attacks my tower.
>circle rythem
>dash through her
>fk I'm blind
>Taking damage still enough time for my second dash after the blind wore off
>line tempo
>I'm too low how I have to retreat
>have 7 stacks on phase.
>give her the kiss taunt than ult.
Get a kill while I'm recalling
I hate when jungles don't hank though.

>>182553815
>>182560309
offlane was the most fun lane, its a shame phase exists and ruins 95% of the games now.

>>182560309
>Master Shinbi
May as well be a Master Wet Noodle for all the impact you'll have, but good job all the same for sticking it to the Phase. I had a game without a Phase on the enemy team followed by a game with a Phase on the enemy team, and my enjoyment of each game could not have been more different (that is to say, the second game came close to driving me to madness).

Someone ought to make a thread on /v/ about Zinx.
>remember that shit-tier moba with ackshual grafix?
>look at this furfaggotry lololol
>their thread on /vg/ is so shit lololol
We'd never need to bump again with the amount of shitposters and furfaggots it would invite.

>>182563795
NO
Besides, I think paragon threads are instadeleted there now, thanks to G's hard work.
And honestly, Paragon doesn't need any more image ruining there, I still hope that one day we will be able to do Paragon threads on /v/ again without them being ruined by G's legacy

I just realised, this new character is going to render the offlane unuseable for weeks. As an offlane main, this angers me.

>>182549441
The waifus are always on point with Paragon.

>>182564409
How do you figure? She's fucking horrifying.

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This was fun

>same person who made zinx made phase and howitzer
>Howitzer is a cat thing
>Zinx is a cat thing humanoid
>Phase is a humanoid with cat bag and cat skins

Can't wait for the howitzer fucking pregnant phase with zinx has the fetus haha

>>182545481
FLAMING FOOT PRINTS

>>182564549
furfags accept anything as long as it slightly resembles an animal just look at some of the "art" they jerk off too

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>come to Paragon because it has less cc and lower lethality than Smite
>Aurora
>Morigesh
>Phase
>Zinx will probably have the biggest teamfight stun in the game as a caster

>>182563550
Shinbis 1v1 is pretty strong.
She just suffers the same issue every assassin suffers

>>182569756
She'd be better if you couldn't cross the map in 10 seconds.

>>182569516
what the hell are you talking about the the two main complaints about this game for the first 6 months post monolith was that it was almost impossible to win unless at least 3 people on your team had 2 second stuns and that carries would melt anyone within seconds of seeing them

Why the fuck do 4chan thinks my completely normal posts are spam and doesn't allow me to post no matter how I reformat? Let's see if it will allow me to post this

>>182570093
you're probably trying to post links to a site

>>182570093
Well, fuck you too

>>182569915
That sounds more like growing pains than an actual issue. The enemy carry has to be massacring my team or I have to be high as fuck for them to kill me in 3-4 basic attacks.

>>182563550
Most shinbis I ever got on my team or faced are fucking shit.
But I faced 2 shinbi players who were godly and they are a fucking night mare to fight.
I remember one went 19/1/2

>>182570365
yeah because kits and scalings got changed, tank stats got buffed, cards got changed around, burst heals got added, shields now work on top of how much armor you already have rather than being a set value and phase exists. go back to january and murdock would 2 shot anyone who got hit by a rampage rock

Explain to me how I can get rid of the fuzzy looking heads, please.
I've tried editing the config file resolution but their heads still look out of focus.
Ramped up the 3d scaling bullshit, ultra settings. But it still looks like ass. This aint no pos pc either.

>>182569868
Just carry Tele blink and go 30 pen.and thick blood
Won't take you longer than 3secs to kill them.
As long as you land all ur abilities of course

>>182570808
its the anti aliasing, it makes the game look like shit with it on though since its shitty fxaa so i'd just leave it off

>>182570983
now theyre all jagged af, but it did come into focus a bit

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Why can't they have Agora as a separate map/play mode? It was more pleasing to look at and comfy to play in.

>>182572568
agora is the name of the planet the game takes place on. the old map is called legacy and it was shitty though mono isn't much better

>>182572568
The game is in the beta, having to balance stuff for two maps at the same time really isn't what they're needing right now. I miss it too though.

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>>182567908
That would be funny haha

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>>182574609
It's a beta in the absolute loosest sense of the term. I can go to Gamestop and pick up a boxed copy of this game for $60, but they use a loophole by claiming you're paying for the physical disc/in-game goodies and not the game itself. If the game is packaged, shipped, and sitting on store shelves for consumers to pick up and plop down their money on, it's - in my eyes, at least - a finished product...but don't worry! There's a very, very small line on the back that says the game isn't finished!

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>>182578184
>/parag/ - Red Letter Media and Aqua Teen Hunger Force crops
I am completely fine with this.

Can we all agree the card system killed this game?

>>182580198
Nah, I actually much prefer it to usual moba item shops

>>182580198
Not really. The fact that so many cards are almost literally useless is a problem, though. That, and the fact that the meta/ style of game evolved to make 70% of the card pool obsolete at any given time, but they did make steps towards fixing it with the AoI update and the one prior by changing Ash of The Witch, Tainted, etc. I'm going to stay optimistic that things will be more diverse after August 8th, but I'm sure the meta will still make a lot of the new cards situational at best.
There's that one card that gives you a buff whenever you carry a river buff, for example: on paper, that's a great idea, but in practise it's so situational and dependent on chance that you may as well build more dependably into other stats for the same cost.

>>182580198
The shitty card system did not help anything thats for sure. I hope they trashed the whole system and started again from square one for the rework.

>>182582542
if what little of the new system they've revealed is what the rest is like then they did

Best Yes song and I fucking love it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKftiJS30Cs

>>182584128
Shit, was supposed to post it on /mu/. Still, enjoy the song I guess

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>>182584128
>>182584276
Losing faith that rock's coming back this time desu.

>>182585224
Tame Impala exists though

>>182585409
Never really looked into them. Guess that gives me something to do.

>>182586139
I would personally say Lonerism > Currents > Innerspeaker. Enjoy they are my favorite band.

>>182580472
This.

The usual item system is so boring.

>>182585224
Yeah, it might never return to mainstream, but there are still some great bands here and there, they just don't get the deserved credit. Still, the thought that the mass culture and most kids' now are mostly influenced by the shit that passes for music nowadays is depressing.

what type of music does each girl like

>>182588154
Shitbi likes kpop

>>182588154
>Phase
Whatever electronic shit teenagers listen to now
>Morigesh
Ooga Booga tribal drums
>Yin
Soft Rock
>Shinbi
K-pop, duh
>Aurora
Some faggy symphonic metal or edgy "metal" with screaming teenagers
>Serath
Gregorian choirs
>Countess
Gothic metal/Classical
>Bellica
Would bet on some higher quality pop, dance or funk music, maybe electronica
>Fey
The sounds of wind blowing
>Gadget
Techno or hard rock
>Kallari
Death Metal
>Muriel
Whatever she can get her hands on, for research
>Dekker
Some easy listening or maybe progressive rock
>Sparrow
Punk Rock, judging from her rebellious attitude?

>>182588154
>>182589307
Post theme songs for characters

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>tfw /parag/ has done more to flesh out the lore than Ebin ever will
i love ya bushbros

>>182593047
She looks better than the actual Phase.

>>182593047
I would actually love to make some Paragon writefaggotry, but English is not my first language, so it would be even more shit than regular

>>182592052
i think sparrows is pretty obvious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bmintQLfv0

>>182592052
Phase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU

What in the literal fuck is this new hero. I am calling it out as phase level busted for offlane. Can epic really not be trusted with this shit?
What other fetishes do you anons think cam has? He has already shown us his pixie and furry fantasies, what the fuck is next?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAj9QONpPGA

IS THIS A JOKE?

her design is SO LAZY holy shit her ingame model looks bad, why are her eyes fucking anime sized? they didn't even fuck howi that bad

even that halloween tigerskin Sparrow made a better "cat girl" than this

fuck man i've lost hope in this design team, and we thought "death mask" Sev was bad and lazy this is what happens when they apply that to a whole character.

This is worst than when we got like 4-5 melee female characters in a row. Damn the paragon dev team is full of hacks

>>182595159
Scat based hero when?
Seriously though, I feel like she's going to be annoying as hell to be laned against, but not that useful late game, depending on how strong her stun is going to be. Probably won't be too viable for meta games. Unless in their ingenuity Ebin is going to give her tonne of damage out of ass and I can definitely see that happening.

>>182595159
the next character will be a hedgehog

>>182595512
On one hand I'm glad we're finally getting more sci-fi themed heroes, and I appreciate the pulpy 50s sci-fi aesthetics they went for here
On the other I'm pissed as hell because they ruined a chance for a good alien character on this atrocity

>>182595610
>iggy rework coming, there is a chance
>With her ult she has the potential to be the tankiest character in the game
>no skill mass stun
>dot affect for tainted magik
>ground pulse is meh
>not a late game threat
We must have different ideas of a threat. She will be the only viable offlaner soon enough. Calling this shit now.

>>182595883
Will he go fast?

>>182593320
Just do it.

>>182596172
4 u maybe

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>>182592052
Murdock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBeyFxCsoOw

I have the ODST soundtrack playing whenever I play Murdock, and this track means someone's about to get the long dick of the law.

>intellect/growth

OVERTUNED

just like phase so they didn't learn their lesson, ontop of the bloted kit she will have access to

>Hydroverser
lel more dmg
>Barrier of Will
more durability ontop of kit
>Ininity stream
practically always have mana ontop her ult
>Clearheart
ult just became 75% of missing hp
>Cast converter
ontop of above means pretty much 100% hp
>Ash of the Witch
ontop of all that other bs
>Tainted Magic
lel stun and now there's 8% of you current hp

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

imagine phase AND this cunt in the same lane, what in the actual fuck have they done to this game? there's no way in hell Aug 8 will unfuck this. They will have to literally bring EVERY other hero up to the broken levels of phase and zinx

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>>182595883
>>182596172
guys im actually kind of worried after googling this, this looks a little familiar

>>182596158
Having a free heal doesn't necessarily make her tanky, she can heal slightly less than half her health at most with it, which is still less than for example Rampage's or Greystone's ults(and these have other effects as well)