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Official rule 63 patch when? edition

Previous Brigand Incursion: >>182115012

Official artist's deviantart:
http://cribs.deviantart.com/

Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/ayjczL4M (embed)

Fanfiction Masterlist:
http://pastebin.com/CcNahBZW (embed)

OST:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGOvv8Bziniqak1ebzd6njY9S27GdxPRL

Narrator:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy1RoYlej6xWqRRci7K_OuQWa-7UgG0uo

Kickstarter heroes & trinkets
http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Backer_heroes
http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Backer_trinkets

Dankest Links
Official website:
www.darkestdungeon.com

Dev Posts & Patch Notes:
steamcommunity.com/app/262060/discussions

Catalogue Page:
boards.4chan.org/vg/catalog#s=darkest

Wiki:
darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Darkest_Dungeon_Wiki

Steam Page:
store.steampowered.com/app/262060

Less grind mod with some /vg/ skins:
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/77?

More /vg/ skins:
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/99/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/100?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/103/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/101/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/112/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/113/?

Musketeer (ACTUALLY UPDATED NOW):
https://mega.nz/#!Y6x3UDAa!mSRRcXUAWBP-66wD3msXqqH4vqxxaH2YBBO0Zm9jBfA
(Updated 7/8/17)
https://mega.nz/#!knwx0AwI!MbmPZaqrp_1Fn1AvhMqI5xQb8Lm51IMsHEqV_7mljQ4

https://mega.nz/#!mQhEjBzJ!buCaSN21puWm5YriOo7EJaFdpIg32jTj6qyr1g8Qh5k

Bonus PS4 Trinkets:
https://mega.nz/#!aVIxQSST!JaFQk8xBChAaa4_XnKz5ZsU0Dt9FEODpUEYriEkvWnk

Bucket Crusader (also dolphin porn):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8k2t5ncuea5s2bz/crusader_G.rar?dl=0

Anon-approved newbie guide:
http://pastebin.com/jK4HPS2e
/dadg/'s own champion boss guide, written by Anon:
http://pastebin.com/e3Sc7VER

Anon's annotated CC maps:
http://imgur.com/a/wvWXJ
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>>182231164
First for best boy
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>>182231164
>>182231190
i am afflicted
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>>182231190
Deviant tastes aquired.
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>>182231164
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>>182231505
Fug, forgot to add the link
http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/405/?
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>>182231328
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>>182231164
Might want to update the OP

Musketeer (Latest):
https://mega.nz/#!knwx0AwI!MbmPZaqrp_1Fn1AvhMqI5xQb8Lm51IMsHEqV_7mljQ4

Independent Musketeer:
https://mega.nz/#!mQhEjBzJ!buCaSN21puWm5YriOo7EJaFdpIg32jTj6qyr1g8Qh5k

Clean Steam dump of Musketeer:
https://mega.nz/#F!VgNAWbZL!pfRpfyjM0S_2hhOgZpjOXw

Add this too for next thread >>182231613
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>>182231505

Author here. There's an update for it now on Nexus. The beast form should at least now resemble a bird instead of a were-rat. I'll update the one on steam when I get home.
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>>182231787
The beak still looks a tad too fleshy
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>>182231787
I liked the werewolf-with-spider-eyes concept! Made her at out at least somewhat and be more of a weird amalgamation, like the original is.
Gud jerb tho!
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>>182231809
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>>182232032
>*stand out
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Anyone got a good edgy Crusader skin? I was thinking something like a black knight.

Also, how do skins works? Do they replace existing pallettes or they're added to the default 4?
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Occ/GR/Flag/MaA a good enough comp for Vvulf? Concerned about the lack of vestal for all the blanket fires. Should my MaA just be spamming bolster the whole time that he doesn't need to guard?
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>>182232121
Abom is a gud boi and the religious fucks shouldn't bully him.
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>>182232186
Skins should just be tacked onto the end of the skins list.
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>>182232186

Added to the default 4. Basically, skins work like hellion_A, hellion_B, and so on. So to add, you only need to rename the folder as other letters like hellion_F.
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I feel as if I should do something with this event, but what do I want to do with it? Feels like a big deal but I can't actually think of a way to utilize it well. Free exp run for some babbies? Free veteran boss?
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>>182232234
Yeah, that restriction should really be removed and stay go
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>>182232234

Lorewise, I think the Big Good (if he does exist and isnt just some mindfuck by the HoD) cares for the Abomination if his Absolve skill is any indication.
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>>182232407
The only reason I'm not a fan of it is that religious characters don't mind the occultist
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>>182232193
I managed to beat it with vestal, BH, HWM, crusader all L5. No deaths but I very nearly lost my crusader because he ate a giant crit off the bomb just before Vvulf died but then he miraculously dodged two attacks in a row on death's door.
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Wait, who the FUCK thought this enemy was even close to reasonable?

I almost lost Dismas to this asshole, critting my team 3 times in a row while being basically status immune AND in the backline, wheres my team is set up to clean front to back.

Just cuck my shit up
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>>182232121
Abom at the bottom panel is giving me some real Rincewind vibes.
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>>182232492

Wait they dont?

Huh, I guess it's less about beliefs but more like that the Abomination is just straight up horrifying.
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>>182232552
maybe next time don't enter the weald if your team isn't set up to handle the enemies there
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>>182232552
dont bring "clean front to back" teams to champion weald you goober
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>>182232552
>wheres my team is set up to clean front to back.
But clearing the back is literally the best way to deal with the weald, as long as you get one character stacking prot at the front two positions to eat up tree trunks, of course.
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>>182232552
>my team is set up to clean front to back
He's an asshole yeah, but there's your problem. Either take some people who can drag him to the front like BH or people who can reliably snipe the backline.
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>>182232374
Veteran bosses aren't that much of a deal, probably better to either grab the achi for killing shrieker or just level up a bunch of newbies by bringing a DD survivor on a long apprentice dungeon or something, no?
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>>182232697
>he's
vi·ra·go
/vəˈräɡō/
noun
noun: virago; plural noun: viragoes; plural noun: viragos
-a domineering, violent, or bad-tempered woman.
·archaic
-a woman of masculine strength or spirit; a female warrior.
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>>182231164
OwO what's this?
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>>182232610
>>182232674
>>182232617
>>182232697
Well I am as newfag as it gets, this is literally the first time I entered a level 5 dungeon for anything.

I couldn't have known any better, pls no bully
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>>182232594
That's already dealth with by stressing your party when abom hulks out though.
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>>182232767

Speaking of which, what kind of names does DD even use?

I mean who the fuck names a woman Pecoth?
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>>182232767
>a man can't be a virago
Remind yourself of your privelige.
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>>182232807
I understand but fungal artillery and crones really should be giving you a clue in veteran about only having frontline damage not being ideal there.
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>>182232903
Fungal Artillery has never been an issue, since they get stunlocked turn 1 as I set up and then just die to 2 plague grenades.

Anyway, I need to set up a B and C team now, so I have a couple of questions:

1. is ranged skills highwayman good enough to dps backline?
2. Is it worth running 2 man at arms for sick buffs + debuffs?
3.Is the Antiquarian good for non-farming missions at all?
I have the Candle of Life for her but no clue wether she is useful or not.
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>>182233086
>and then just die to 2 plague grenades
Huh your PDs have better trinkets than mine do.
I realy mostly on HM.
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Well the skin's pretty much playable now barring the solid colours, all I really have left to do is proper texturing and a few other adjustments, and maybe some extra palettes

In the mean time feel free to test it out, see if there's anything wrong. I know that the fx looks a little strange since it was made around the crusader's helmet but that's a small unavoidable quirk I guess

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_Uga69SFLS7MWVzczlDZjEzYmc/view?usp=sharing
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>>182230912
I've run rank 1-2 Antiquarian often. My lineup is normally OCC - PD/MAA/HM - HWM - ANT.

Occultist has mark, pull, heal, and either his stab in case of shuffle or his backline attack.

Plague Doctor runs a mix of stuns and blight along with her heal. Incision is also very useful.

Man-at-Arms spams Bolster. He also has Defender and Retribution. I prefer Bellow for the fourth skill but Rampart is also good if you want to run rank 3 HWM and constantly switch places with Duelist's Advance/Rampart.

Houndmaster has Hound's Rush and Cry Havoc. His third skill is either Guard Dog or Target Whistle. I normally take Blackjack in case of shuffle but running both mark and protect is fine. Or any other skill really.

Highwayman has Point Blank Shot, Duelist's Advance, Pistol Shot, and Wicked Slice.

Antiquarian has Nervous Stab, Protect Me, and Invigorating Vapours. The fourth skill is either Festering Vapours (when running PD) or Fortifying Vapours (for emergency healing after a shuffle).

The strategy should be pretty clear. Depending on which party you have, the HWM starts in rank 1, 2, or 3 (if you have an MAA). He uses PBS or DA right away. Sub PBS for Grapeshot if you're going to do the Rampart dance with the MAA. OCC manages corpses and marks targets for Pistol Shot and the HM's dog. With the amount of dodge and protection your team will have, there shouldn't be that much healing he needs to do. Ant uses guard on HWM and then spams the party dodge buff, refreshing guard as needed.

Auntie pros and cons:
+makes it so enemies can only target three of your team unless using aoe
+can make it very hard for enemies to hit your team, increasing their survivability
+immune to shuffle
+loads emone
-doesn't bring damage to the table
-low health
-low healing
-relies on not getting hit as a form of defense
-generally useless in a lot of cases
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>>182233086
1. Yes, with highwayman's buckle and any other damage trinket he can reliably 2-shot just about any backline mob with pistol shot. Duelist's advance/point blank shot allow him to dumpster frontlines as well.
2. dunno
3. Yes she is, but that doesn't mean she's good enough for bosses (except Siren). Candle of Life is shit though. Use her to spam dodge buff, secure kills with blight/stab if a monster survives with like 1 hp, and use her force guard on your highest dodge character if needed.
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>>182233086
Antiquarian's thing is being generally more shitty that any other class in a fight, meaning you take one or more if you think you can get away with it for mad stacks but any other in-position character will be a better pick in terms of fighting.
Having said that they can provide a pretty good defensive buff to one party member, buff the whole party's dodge a reasonable amount at higher levels and they tolerate being shuffled well.
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I find the antiquarian really good for the weald. Place her at the frontlines and just spam Defend Me on your frontline tank. They'll have 80% prot and +15 dodge in no time while the only danger to your antiquarian ends up being knife bandits, fungal artillery that reaches the frontline and virago curses.
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>open all 3 ancestor's knapsacks in wolves at the door
>berserk mask
>ancestor's moustache cream
>legendary bracer
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>>182233839
Oh and of course: giants begin to pose no threat.
If at worst your damage taker gets shuffled to the last position, just put defend me on the second sturdiest hero you've got.
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any simple draw request?
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>>182234603
The sanitarium lady forcing Dismas to apologize to the barkeep guy, in order to remove his Known Cheat quirk
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>>182234603
Sexy vestal tempting her party.
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>>182234603
PD sneaking up on Abom holding a needle.
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>>182234603
Boobies
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>>182233353
Might need to zoom out on the roster portrait, this looks kinda weird
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>>182234794

Yeah, that's just a placeholder for now. I'll probably draw a unique head just for the portrait
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>>182234794
you need more of his lower face, every hero's portrait reaches to almost halfway down their neck
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>>182234854
Hey there, wrong anon to talk to, should be >>182234845
I'm just giving feedback.
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Do collected firewoods in the courtyard get saved to provisions when you regroup & return, like with the keys?
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>>182234603
Hellion screaming at Wilbur as he Squeals back and they both stun each other.
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>>182235287
[autistic screeching]
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>>182234603
Abomination gnawing a bone in his shed
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>>182233937

>ancestor's moustache cream

Wait, this is thing? Lol
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Darkest Sun guy made a new skin. It's Jester this time

http://www.nexusmods.com/darkestdungeon/mods/406/?
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>>182235801
>not using moustache cream
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>>182235287
>>182235369
fresh terrible oc
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>>182235284
Nope
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>>182236174
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>>182236994
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>>182235979
Red and blue eyes ruins it.
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>>182237084
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>>182232552
You are going to get WRECKED in the Warrens if you don't have the capability to hit all ranks. You need a well composed party, not just smash the first two guys, then their corpses, then the front line comes to you type of party.
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>>182234725
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>>182238425
>no imgur to the uncensored version

dang it all to heck, anon
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>>182232331

I can't seem to find it :(
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Is there anything in this world that's not a trinket? Am I gonna find some Ancestor's Pocket Lint at some point?
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>>182239029

Can't wait to find his Moustache Shavings in the next DLC.
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>>182239029
>combines the abilities of Fasting Seal, Auntie's gold stacking and +10% virtue chance
>+20% stress
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>>182239110
>implying you won't find Ancestor's Hangnail
+30 Dodge
-5% HP
+10% Stress
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Do we have a Darkest Dungeon version of this yet?
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>Ancestor's Vintage
>Not Ancestral rarity
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>>182239682

I'm so confused
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>>182239682
>buenos dias plague doctor
>0, CRIT, BLEED.
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Can someone from Steam check the following file for me?
\dlc\580100_crimson_court\features\crimson_court\campaign\town\districts\cc_districts.json
Open with notepad or equivalent.
Let me know what is after the code "item_type":
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>pick this game up on summer sale
>do a few missions, things go smoothly, dont lose anyone
>think im doing well
>come across red orb thing
>get sucked into the void
>fighting a lovecraft boss
>everyone goes mad in like 2 turns and they just get slaughtered
>mfw

Fun game, any tips for beginners?
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>>182239827

I bet the Plague Doctor's boobs are really soft.
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>>182240009

Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
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>>182239997
"item_type": "estate",
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Are there mods that are easily added to this game with more/new heroes?

>Preferably semi balanced and not game breaking?
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>>182240198
>Are there mods that are easily added to this game with more/new heroes?
Sure

>Preferably semi balanced and not game breaking?
Pic related.
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Why doesn't the Grave Robber ever use her shovel in combat? Seems like it'd be effective IMO.
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>>182240354
I had hope but it seems that over confidence was a slow and insidious killer.
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>>182240198

Musketeer Rework and maybe the Cannoneer I guess
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>>182240143
>GOG still on build 20239
>Sanguine Vintners not producing
>Check files
>Sees this, should be estate

Thanks for confirming it for me.
Wtf Red Hook, get your shit together.
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>give arbalest a dismas head, or whoever gives +20 damage
>what's the worst that could happen?
Apparently meeting CC patrol on my first step and going 0-100 in two turns because i couldn't land a hit on mosqitoes. I got 3 crimson curses and two afflictions in this fight alone.
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>>182240408
It's supposed to be a pick
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>>182240408

Speaking of which. Grave Robber should have a passive skill that lets her dig through obstacles without taking damage.
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Who is best husbando and why is it Man-At-Arms?
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>>182240027
You know she's injected them with all kinds of sexy tinctures and regularly rubs them down with alluring ointments
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>>182241128
>>182240027

What if it turns out she's like 60 or something
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>>182241224
That's even more impressive, having a figure like that at 60.
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>>182241224
Hey, she has to keep the mask and robe on regardless of age or she doesn't get the fucc anyway
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>>182241053
To be fair, I think that all curios/events should have options to use characters' skills to surpass them. Pic related.

I'm not saying that each option that involves hero doing a thing should always give positive effects. They could offer things like party buffs, scouting or stress healing, instead of just treasure.
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>>182241348

For all we know that's just where she stores her spare blight bombs
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>Bring me a small dog. So crunchy. Mm.
What did he mean by this?
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>>182241224
CUTE!
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/avy4xa/yazemeenah-rossi-interview-876
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>>182242198
I want this artist to draw Grave Robber.
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>>182242024
pigman nature surfacing
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>>182242558
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Post scrub mistakes you still do
>forgot to put on trinkets
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>>182243414
Doesn't it warn you if you don't equip trinkets? Or is that just because I'm playing on easy?
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>>182243414
>forgot to remind self that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
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>>182243414
Doesn't the game warn you when you do that?

>getting ready to pop this shambler curio
>dump my torches because light is going to 0 anyway
>wait a minute
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>>182243414
>forget to switch skills just before boss
>oops I didn't buy shovels
>never cleared that negative quirk I wanted to get rid of after the hero got out of stress treatment
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>>182243414
>forgot to put on trinkets

I'm with you on that one.

I used to forget some basic provisions before going down under, but now I always remember the basics of FTS - Food, Torches and Shovels.
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>>182243414
It's shameful how many times I've done this.

Also
>sometimes slot Occu into slot #2 for Cove quests
>first battle starts, realize I still have him set up for slot #4
>no stunnan and stabban til next encounter
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>>182243642
>>182243667

Playing on easy. I was planning on what provisions I wanted to bring and thought I got a good party going until I realized after clicking to go button that I forgot to equip them. It's not bad but I get triggered everything when PD can't blight or abom/maa can't stun because of this silly mistake.
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>>182243642
>>182243667
It should? Because i never got it.
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Is there a reason not to use Hellion in Position 1? Iron Swan seems to useful not to build around.
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>>182243848
She's not very tanky.

But really no, there isn't, unless you are running 2+ hellions, in which case only one gets to go first.
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>>182243414
Forget to upgrade skills and equipment for champion dungeons
>tfw lost a hellion that way on a champion blood run
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>>182243848
As far as I'm concerned, no. She's pretty much the only frontliner I used towards the end of the game. Hitting every rank for solid damage + having a two-person stun just can't be beat in most situations.
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>>182243667
>dump my torches because light is going to 0 anyway
>wait a minute
kek

That has happened to me once or at least I throw away provisions that I could've used in the next room. As a side note, if you have to make room for provisions, you need to evaluate the importance of your current provisions for the REST of your quest.

Torches are the first thing you should save unless you're planning on going torchless or the last fight is close. Firewood+food being the second most important unless your party is at their optimal condition.

Supplies that are required for continued expedition are second of importance, things like bandages in veteran cove or having extra food for the long hallways are fine. You should try to use them before discarding like food you know you can eat a hunger check so you throw the rations away to make room and then heal/stress heal in battle. If you have provisions specifically for curios but you're almost at the end of your quest then they're prioritized last so they can be dumped. Definitely save a key if you plan on scouting for the secret room and between key/shovel, the shovel should be better only if you don't care about the secret room.
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How do resistances work?

Let's say an enemy has 80% blight resist and my Plague Doctor uses a 140% blight chance ability and has 2 trinkets with +20% on blight skills equipped, making the blight chance 180%.
Would that mean that the 80% blight resistance enemy gets blighted every time, assuming the ability doesn't miss?
Or does it remove 80% of the 180%, resulting in a 36% chance?
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>>182244470
It's simple subtraction 180-80 = 100%
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>>182243414

>forgot to equip skill before entering boss fight
>its the most important skill you need

Can you run from boss fights? I've never tried.
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>>182244567
yup
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>>182243807
That's really weird. I just tried it again and it didn't pop up
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>>182243414
>short on money
>piked up auntie
>medium dungeon here i come!
>proceed to open every single one curio with my fisrst position character
>quest ended
>while I watch game counts my loot I understand I did not use my auntie to pick a single fucking chest
>A MATCH IS STRUCK, THE BLAZING IDIOT IS BORN

B-but at least muh stacked gold...

My only excuse that I almost never have money shortage so auntie is sitting on the bench 90% of the time and I'm isn't use to her abilities.
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>>182245070
*i'm not used to
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>prepping for shambler fight
>put team in worst possible order
>shambler shuffles team into best possible order
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>>182245070

>pick up auntie for some quick dosh
>forget that one of my roster is a kleptomaniac
>they proceed to steal every single fucking curio
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I'm trying a reskin of the leper based on a D&D character I had
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>>182245494
nice
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>>182245019
I think it only prompts you when you're about to embark on a veteran level quest or higher. Not positive though.
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>>182245793
Ah you're right. That explains it.
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>Cove
>find secret room
>no skeleton keys
>use Pilfer during camp
>it's fucking Holy Water

Thanks Grave Robber, I guess.
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>>182245070
>I did not use my auntie to pick a single fucking chest
Wait, does it matter?
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>>182244470
I've never actually seen a PD miss a stun grenade, only it being resisted?
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>>182245494

You should vary the texture on the armor up with darker/lighter strokes,it looks weird and flat right now
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>>182246108
ALWAYS USE AUNTIE TO INTERACT WITH CURIOS
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>>182246043
Who's that semen demon
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>>182245070
>>182246108
>>182246276

Should I be happy that my main aunty has a massive slew of forced curio quirks
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>>182246516

Little Witch Academy
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Oi /dadg/! I'm on my first DD run on normal difficulty. Got the ancestor's scroll (pic related) from a shambler. Now i read up, that most people think that it's quite bad. But I don't understand why, it's as good as junia's head, which i use constantly on my healer.
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Reminder that pic related is the ultimate shitter supreme
Im serious, he's still losing to Croc with 91% crit, 315 DODGE, and six trinket slots with no restrictions
Normally Id be against posting e-celeb shit but, compare that to this
https://youtu.be/AZJdd83cLMs?t=2399
>first ever playthrough
>third or fourth mission
>hasnt even been to the Cove or the Warrens
>manages to beat Croc first try
Dont get me wrong, if RNG is against you then you'll lose no matter what, but what kind of a shitter do you have to be to lose to the Croc with such a broken overpowered mod team
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>>182246753
Thanks famalan
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>>182246657
Even OCD's can be counteracted by (right-)clicking the correct provision in the inventory in that split second before the fucker rips up the curio.
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>>182246657
Just dump her and grab a new one. If you plan only using her to make money, throw her in easy/vet medium dungeons or gather quests.
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>>182247050
>>182247139

She's not a klepto. Plus I already know about the right click thing so I can easily manage her quirks

she's my bae her dodge buffs are my lord and savour
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>>182246947
oops forgot pic
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>>182246947
>>182247458
It used to be, got changed recently. It was +healing and +stress healing received, but now it's a lot more usable.
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>>182232552
>bring Houndmaster
>stack dodge guard
>???
>profit
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>Plague Doctor is obsessed with killing
>gets trapped in Iron Maiden
>Claustrophobia gained
>find another Iron Maiden
>she goes for it again
>"well, at least she can't get Claustrophobia twice"
>Quirk Reinforced!

Happened for the first time to me. Nice touch, gotta say.
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>>182248242
go for a third one
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>>182247606

Wait so I can run it on Vestal now?

Nice.
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>>182248242

I still have no idea what claustrophobia does
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>>182248376
I actually wanted to see what would happen, but alas, no more iron maidens.
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>>182246947
It used to be healing recieved but that's a niche effect for a ancestral trinket so many opted to use the other more useful items like pen, map or musketball. Now it buffs your healing/stress healing so it's more useful than before. You should slap it on heroes like houndmaster, abomination or crusader since they have both healing and stress healing skills. Jester already has his own stress healing trinket but this trinket would buff his stress healing even further.
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>>182248431
Gives you stress for going down corridors
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Been playing without crimson court because it's $10 and I'm a cheap fuck.
I saw people saying you can pick and choose which content to add, can you do that for saves already in progress? I don't want to ruin my playthrough now I'm 50 weeks through it
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>free medical day
>tfw removing locked negative and locking positive for free.
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>>182248572
>I saw people saying you can pick and choose which content to add, can you do that for saves already in progress? I don't want to ruin my playthrough now I'm 50 weeks through it
Yes.
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>>182248581
>tfw no face
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>>182232594
the autist that paid for it to be added wanted it that way

devs plan on making it quirk based
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>>182248242
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Okay so I just got my first squad to level 6, how hard is Darkest Dungeon, and what should I know before entering?

Also, should I keep Dismas and Reynauld back until the fourth quest, or do I get the achievement for completeing any Darkest Dungeon quest with both of them?
Also, how good is the generic PD / Vestal / HWM / Crusader lineup?
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>>182250260
it is mediocre at best because both HWM and Crusader are mediocre at best
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>>182240009
upgrade the gypsy

lvl 4 weapons suck
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>>182250260
Dismas and Reynauld need to enter the fourth quest in order to have the achievement.
Bring a shit tons of supplies but no shovels or keys, stress heal is really good to have, there's no ambush while camping there
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>>182240485
what file is that in?

>>182241053
she gives you a free shovel, but thats it
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>>182248242
>In Courtyard
>Houndmaster has 3 severe quirks + Sitomania
>Find food cart curio
>"Let me by, I am famished"
>STRESS EATER ACQUIRED
>Next curio is the same thing
>"LET ME BY, I AM FAMISHED"
>STRESS EATER REINFORCED

I pity the poor broken soul
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>Try to hunt for the shambler for 3 weeks now
>no shambler altars to be found
>Can't come up with a party that is good for the shambler and does not struggle against the rest of the dungeon as a result

help me lads
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Was it necessary to make this game so hard? I am close to refund it.
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>>182250605
>Not knowing you can right click medicinal herbs during the time window between the quirk proccing and the hero actually activating the curio to get a good outcome
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>>182250550
\dlc\580100_crimson_court\features\crimson_court\campaign\town\districts\cc_districts.json
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>>182241053

Grave Robber's pick should do bonus damage to the Garden Guardian
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who /can't manage inventory so just takes every heilroom instead of gold unless it's an antiquarian run and have to do a lot of those because constantly takes 4 supplies of every type in every dungeon in case i need it/ here?

I mean really, took holy water to cove like 5 times and ended up not using it, im not stopping now niggers.
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>>182245494
Unless it's a cute girl mod I just care.
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>>182250815
thanks

>>182251192
it really should or the tools should work on everything man made like the pews, pot, pyre and cannon
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>>182250769
I know: I was coming to the end of a long run to the courtyard and had run out of many supply items, herbs included.
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>>182250662
Vestal-Graverobber-Highwayman-Crusader

Take normal backline healing for the Vestal, with all the +heal trinkets you can get because of your more fragile partymates.

Kit out GR with lunge, shadow fade, and whatever else you want.

Kit out HWY with duelist's advance, point blank shot, and wicked slice.

Kit out Crusader with holy lance, inspiring cry, and smite.

You end up with a party where every member but the vestal can move forward with attacks, allowing them to move themselves around and easily shuffle vestal to the back if she gets moved. The party takes good advantage of lunge, duelist's advance, and holy lance to smash through the enemy backline. Every party member but vestal can hit from any rank, making shuffles less of a pain. The main downside of the party is that HWY and GR are both somewhat fragile; don't use an occultist, because they don't have the hp to survive a few poor heals. Shadow fade is surprisingly good for keeping GR alive by combining a stun and excellent +dodge.
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>>182250260
DD has no randomization, maps and encounters are pre-scripted.

Dudes that survive a DD run will never go back for another, so don't send the dynamic duo until DD4.

It's pretty hard tuned champ runs (some people are saying champ CC is worse tho?), and has tons of bleeds/blights, so bring a shit-ton of provisions.

Oh, and retreating from an unfinished DD run will off one of your guys at random...
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so is MaA a must for VVulf?
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>>182251780
>so don't send the dynamic duo until DD4
Really it's DD3 that you need to send your best for
DD4 is where you send a vestal and a houndmaster with two sacrifices
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>>182252081
yes
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>>182252194
Nigger, it's the Vestal and Houndmaster that will be up on the chopping block...
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>>182246960
Crocs can spawn in hallways?
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>>182253253
CC is scripted

i don't recall it having a hallway spawn
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>move around some stuff in the bag
>"Ornaments! So neatly arranged!"

Wait what, there are even lines when you sort your inventory?
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How difficult is Swine prince compared to the Collector or a shambler on apprentice?

Also warrens is the place with all the bleeds or the place with all the poisons?
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Swine prince is way easier. Has some blights but not as many as weald.
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>>182254296
Extremely easy, even more so when you bring an Arbalest with Flare.
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>>182254296
don't touch the tiny pig and you will be fine

pigs resist blight, you can get bleed and blight in there, but not super common
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>>182251780
>some people are saying champ CC is worse tho?

CC mobs are the easiest champ packs
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>>182252081
Did it without one cause I didn't have one leveled. It was doable, but it sucked; I'd recommend bringing MaA.
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>>182233086
1. Yes, it works. If you're keeping him in the backlines completely, just put him in position three with one melee attack to help against position one enemies.
2. Generally, no. Your total damage per turn will be so low that you'll trigger reinforcements every time you have to deal with high PROT enemies, like Fungal Grabbers, and MaA doesn't have any healing abilities whatsoever. One is enough for everything MaA does, and killing/stunning enemies > buffing/debuffing.
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Do you guys prefer to upgrade Weaponsmithing or Armorsmithing at Blacksmith's?

I think I'm leaning towards weapons, because that extra Speed can prove crucial for stuns and takedowns on first turn.
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>Forgot to rearrange party order
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>>182254915
lvl 4 weapons suck
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>>182233086
3. She's not bad, but don't bother using her against any bosses. Even if you can get away with just stacking blight or dodge every turn, Antiquarian is outperformed by another class for every role she can fill.
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>>182255064
Right, forgot about that and I just have a choice between level 4 weapons and level 4 armors.

Thanks for reminding me mate.
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>>182254563
Iunno, I don't have the dlc. I just read what people are saying in these threads.
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>>182240009
I just fought him for the first time too. Thought he would be like the collector but he put 3 of my guys on deaths door in a few turns and I had to use all my bandages and anti venoms. I never even bring those either but just happened to have a stack of them because I was in the weald. Got lucky and dismas crit him with a 30% damage buff.

If I didn't crit him I think 2 or 3 guys would have died that turn or the next. Not deaths door but died.
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WEALTH BEYOND MEASURE

>Its 1 torch
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>>182255532
>not using auntie
You did this to yourself.
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>>182245265
>put team in worst possible order

D-does this actually work?
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>>182254563
That depends heavily on what abilities they decide to use. If an Esquire or Courtesan don't use The Thirst then you're going to be hit with huge aoe damage and aoe stress, respectively. Chevaliers can one-shot most heroes with a single Skewer + bleed and can easily stun two guys at once, along with having a large health pool and decent dodge+prot.
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>Cartographer's camp
>50%+ loot
This and sanguine should be priority in early-mid game. For me, there's a clear difference with and without it.
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How does scouting work? Do I give the map to the hero with the biggest chance of scouting or it doesn't matter? I assumed scouting chance is accumulated by the party and gives you a small chance to scout with every room/torch lit.
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>>182255718
Well, if you shuffle your team in the worst possible order, then no order shambler shuffles your team into would be worse than the original one, and there is a chance it would be shuffled into the right order, whereas if your team is originally in best order, there is no such chance.
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>>182246960
I thought it was going to be oddone. I saw him kill croc 1st try on blind run.

Also why is that guys vestal so damn cute? It reminds me of a dark souls character
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so I just spent multiple hours trying to find a way to rip and play music files with minimal luck. I'm now doing what I should've done. ask.

how do I do it?
I found and managed to extract the music bank to multiple .raw files, had some clues about wwhat I should do with those files with the format apparently being riff-wav inside the files. Various different media players and they couldn't do anything with it, and with ffmpeg I've achieved various degrees of success from 0b files to the normal size but the only audio is static. I have no idea where to go from here.
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>>182256185
>about to fight Shambler
>put Arb in front, Leper in back
>start fight
>Surprised!
>two middle characters shuffle amongst each other
>Leper and Arb stay where they are
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>>182255532
>A BRILLIANT CONFLUENCE OF SKILL AND PURPOSE
>it's the buff you get after getting stunned for 1 turn
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>>182255064

Why?
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>>182245459
>Allowing a hero with Kleptomania to exist within your roster
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>>182256432

You jinxed it man. Your Arb and Leper became self aware that you were going to fight the Shambler so they didnt shuffle.
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>diseased herb
>shrooms
>>herb
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>>182245494
Does he have a peg leg? His right foot looks nonexistent due to the angle.
>>182246657
No, because she won't let you use the proper curio items, and she might interact with books and bookcases. Never interact with books and bookcases.
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is it worth picking up?
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I really dig the kinda cynical and bitter humor in this game.
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Newfag to mods and /dadg/ here. Which of the Musketeer variants do I want? Also what do bucket crusader and PS4 trinkets do?
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Trying to get achievement for having a full roster of vamps. Been packing Abby and Tavern with uninfected and infected. These cucks just aren't getting infected. I'm right outside the Viscount's door. Just need a full roster so when I stomp his shit it's an easy clean up. I WANT TO LET HIM DINE ON SHARPENED STEEL ALREADY FOR FUCK'S SAKE CAN YOU PRICKS JUST ALL GET INFECTED ALREADY FUCK
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How do I fix this shit?
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>>182257242
Do you want the official Musketeer, that's just an Arbalest reskin, or a modded Musketeer that's its own thing?

It just adds two PS exclusive trinkets to the PC version. They're nothing special
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>>182257248
can't you just fire the people who aren't infected
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>>182252418
>>182254903
fuck
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>>182257338
uninstall mods incompatible with the current patch
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>>182250721
The game isn't about simply grinding up a super-powerful team like in most turn-based strategy games; it's about risk management.
The game is supposed to bite you in the ass every now and then, even if you're doing everything right. You are meant to have contingency plans for every misfortune, and losing your favorite heroes every now and then adds to the atmosphere.

Don't pussy out because it's "difficult." It's impossible to actually lose the game outside of the Stygian mode; there are only setbacks in Radiant and Darkest modes. It's also possible to bring back dead heroes, just very rare.
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>>182257424
Ja, but the ones not infected just happen to be the valuable ones I've locked quirks with etc
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>tfw you can find cc trinkets in those shitty hives
I've been ignoring these curios since forever, i have no words
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>>182257462
Crusader, Hellion, GD and Arbalest. can it work?
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>>182251382
You're burning through a lot of gold doing that, friend.

https://arnaud.rocks/darkest-companion/
I use this because I already have to remember to check fifty things before even starting a run. I've memorized most of these supply suggestions and curio interactions, at this point, but I don't think checking this instead of accidentally using the wrong item on a curio is too much.
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>>182257480
Ah, thanks.
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>>182256870
>Hellion being anything but the objectively best girl
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>>182257867
Robber not digger
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>>182258190
damn you are right woops
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>>182257395
There's three links, what does each of them do? Also what is Bucket Crusader?
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>>182254296
If you don't hurt Wilbur and bring a Vestal + a Houndmaster (or Man-At-Arms) for healing and protection, the Swine Prince is easy, especially if your heroes are all level 2.
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>>182258316
gives him a bucket helmet
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>>182258316
Don't know what this one is:
Musketeer (Latest):
https://mega.nz/#!knwx0AwI!MbmPZaqrp_1Fn1AvhMqI5xQb8Lm51IMsHEqV_7mljQ4

This is a mod that adds the Musketeer as it's own class:
Independent Musketeer:
https://mega.nz/#!mQhEjBzJ!buCaSN21puWm5YriOo7EJaFdpIg32jTj6qyr1g8Qh5k

This is the offical DLC folder that adds the Musketeer as a variant of the Arbalest class, which is what the dev intended. This is best if you want the least work:
Clean Steam dump of Musketeer:
https://mega.nz/#F!VgNAWbZL!pfRpfyjM0S_2hhOgZpjOXw

Bucket Crusader is just an alternate Crusader skin where his helm is Deus Vult bucket shaped instead of rounded
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Any tips for a beginner? Going in blind, game looks really fun yet punishing.
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>>182258316
Use these links for Musketeer, not the ones in the OP
>>182258731
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>>182258745
>Any tips for a beginner? Going in blind
Go in blindly if you're going in blindly.
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Positive Quirk Power Rankings:

God Tier:
Eagle Eye
Quick Reflexes
Corvid's Eye
Corvid's Grace
Precise Striker
On Guard

Top Tier:
Evasive
Quick Draw
Natural Swing
Hard Skinned
Slugger
Unerring

Too Situational To Lock In Tier:
Explorer/Slayer/Hater quirks

Meh Tier:
Everything Else

Negative Quirk Power Rankings:

Cleanse and Purge Tier:
Kleptomaniac
Slow Draw
Off Guard
Clumsy
Flawed Release
Weak Grip
Calm

Pretty Bad Tier:
The Yips
Slow Reflexes
Curious
Misses the Spot
Nocturnal
Lazy Eye
Corvid's Blindness

Whatever Tier:
Everything Else
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>medium map
>still have firewood in my inventory
>always buy max food
>still get hunger on the way back to the secret room

God I hate this bullshit.
At least it doesn't happen very often.
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>>182258745
Don't be afraid of experimenting around. You can never actually lose the game unless on Stygian/Bloodmoon.
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>>182241416
When I first started playing the game I expected the PD to be the right choice to interact with alchemy tables.
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>>182256867
The atmosphere/backdrop of the game is incredible, especially with the narration of the Ancestor.
The risk management/RNG sets it apart from other turn-based strategy games.
The art stands out, and the game looks good because of it.

Buy it, learn from your mistakes, and listen to everything the Ancestor says.
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>>182259126
>dude, exanguinate demon bitches and use their blood for wine, lmao
What did he mean by this?
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>>182258960
Deadly is surprisingly good on Vestals, since it increases heal crit chance. Really pumps up her AoE heal, and increases the chance of a little stress healing on top of it.
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>>182258978
Always camp one room after the first hunger check.
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The one thing I didn't understand though, did Ancestor drink the wine with Countess blood in it or no? I suppose he didn't, but why was he struck with a vision then?
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>>182260130
He said he had a single drop.
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>>182259126
>The risk management/RNG sets it apart from other turn-based strategy games.

Actually, that's pretty much a staple for every good turn-based game. You see the probability of success and decide if it's worth it or not. Sometimes a risky play is the only way of turning the tide. Most of the time though, you play it safely.
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>>182260030
Why
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>>182256510
less stats than every other weapon tier

no speed+, a few classes only get +1dmg on the high end like the GR goes from 6-13 to 6-14

for the price its not worth it especially since the armor is still good
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>>182257846
they can also drop from monsters inside the CC
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>>182260201
Many other turn-based strategy games allow for incredible safety by allowing you to grind endlessly and field an incredibly overleveled party.

Darkest Dungeon demands that you take almost every precaution possible by having harsh RNG, but it prevents you from bringing overleveled heroes to lower-difficulty dungeons and boss fights.
You're not supposed to win everything in Darkest Dungeon by grinding; you're supposed to methodically prepare for every run as if it will go badly, then adapt when it gets even worse. Even your best-laid plans can and will go awry.
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>>182256271
>Also why is that guys vestal so damn cute? It reminds me of a dark souls character

Cuz it is
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>>182258745
scouting chance is important since it can prevent surprises
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My starter crusader is a klepto, should I restart?
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>>182261687
Dismas and Reynauld always start with the same quirks
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>>182261687
He always starts as a klepto
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>>182261857
Thanks
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How do I get the fanatic to respawn

Is having the crimson curse ever worth it
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>>182261930
on damage dealers maybe
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>>182243414
>forget to take blood
>3 cursed party member
>all wasting
Its the dlcs fault r-right?
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>>182261930
>How do I get the fanatic to respawn
>
>Is having the crimson curse ever worth it

He only have a chance to spawn if you have 2 cursed heroes in party. 3 or 4 increases the chance to spawn him.
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>Never used to bring torches with auntie groups and loot runs
>Decided to do a nolight run after getting bumper crop
>Bring max torches anyways because why not
>Heading towards room battle
>Max out light
>Enemy surprised!
>Low stress, fight is easy
>Before final blow I snuff the light
>Still get shitloads of treasure
>Keep light off until I get to next fight
>Repeat
Sweet mercy, why doesn't everyone do this? It's the same amount of loot without spending for affliction removal when we get out. It's perfect.
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>>182261857
delet this image
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>>182262518
not enough torches to do so for every encounter

wont always scout fights in order to light torch in time

can usually just clear the map then open curios at 0 light
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>>182246960
This is so frustrating to watch. This guy literally passes like 6 turns without ever healing while half his team is either on or near deaths door.
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New player here. Really enjoying this game so far. I especially like the Plague Doctor class. The blight grenade and stun gas absolutely destroy the enemy backline. The pitiful heal she can do seems like a wasted turn in comparison.
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Newfriend here, is it possible to resist debuffs that you place on yourself, for example most of what the Hellion does debuffs her, is there a treshold to hit via trinkets where she resists that?
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>Arbalest is a better hero than GR

Every time I learn something new from the shitters.
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>>182262963
That pitiful heal can take your allies out of Death's Door and cleanses both bleed and blight from herself and her target, that shit saves lives, man.
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>>182262963
The heal is only good if you can actually stem bleeding / cure blight, in which case you'll be potentially healing more than the vestal on a single target.
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>>182262963
>New player here. Really enjoying this game so far. I especially like the Plague Doctor class. The blight grenade and stun gas absolutely destroy the enemy backline. The pitiful heal she can do seems like a wasted turn in comparison.

I always had it on PD because it's incredibly useful sometimes when you have to remove bleed or blight from death-door hero and save him, you can also remove bleed / blight from PD at the same time as well.
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>>182262963
>The pitiful heal she can do seems like a wasted turn in comparison.
until you meet mr. pinch and his 10dmg bleed

can also take allies off deaths door and cure dots so they survive the next hit
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Does anyone actually use the Nomad Wagon
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>>182261243
There's nothing similar about these two characters besides sharing the same gender.
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>>182263979

Tell that to the guy who made the mod http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=924733384
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>>182263927
>Nomad Wagon

It was must have on NG+ because you could get all viable damage-type trinkets there pretty fast.

I think those niggers nerfed it in DLC though
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>>182263159
Why not both?
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>>182263927
It's the final dumping ground for Crests. It's even less useful now that buildings are a thing.
>It's still nice to just buy a particular trinket now and then instead of having to hunt for it, though.
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>>182264118
Is that supposed to prove something?
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>>182263927
people who want sun/moon rings
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>>182261930
He'll always stalk parties with infected heroes. Whether you want him to is how willing you are to GIVE YOUR LIFE FOR THE CRIMSON FLUID
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>>182264235
>It's the final dumping ground for Crests
But those are the camp and the Red Hook™.
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>>182264235
>It's the final dumping ground for Crests

Wrong and you upgrade the wagon as soon as you can to get more trinkets you could look for. Basically sun / moon trinkets as mentioned before and enemy-type trinkets for damage.
Those trinkets are top tier and enough to finish the game without any problems and needing anything from Shambler or champion bosses.
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>PANIC
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>>182265459
The camp's more necessary for certain key camping skills (preventing ambushes, for one), I think.
After getting past the 100k gold mark and building a bank, I'm almost tempted to build the Red Hook before maxing out the Nomad Wagon.
I think I've bought two trinkets in the 50+ hours I've put into this playthrough (which I started before Crimson Court came out), and I've bought all but two Nomad upgrades.
>>182265660
See above. I already have most of those trinkets you mentioned without needing to buy them, and I generally don't even use X Slayer rings (I use Dismas' Head, Necromancer's Collar, and other bits that don't remove so much DODGE).
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is there like some sorta hero tier list? who's the best?
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what the fuck is this

I just lost 3 good men to this shit because my arsehole leper wouldn't let us run away
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>>182266142
>See above. I already have most of those trinkets you mentioned without needing to buy them, and I generally don't even use X Slayer rings (I use Dismas' Head, Necromancer's Collar, and other bits that don't remove so much DODGE).

Nigger you have to get the best trinkets as soon as possible for NG+ and dodge is unreliable anyway, everyone is going to hit you on NG+
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>>182266254
Depends on the area.
Usually the flagellant.
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>>182265961

>Im going to be ok, its the warrens I bet I can go arround him
>the map is just a long hallway
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>>182266265
Don't ever let anyone hit 100 stress
Use torches and camp if somebody is stressed
Try to target stress inducers in earlier dungeons
Remind yourself
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>>182266265
I fought him today for the first time but I came prepared with duelist advance and it sent my vestal from rank 1(swap her with MaA) to rank 3.

Without having that ability my vestal would have been destroyed
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>>182266684
I was more talking about getting attacked by a giant alien tentacle monster but thanks
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Idea for mod class: Hooker

>Flirt (enemy)
Mark target enemy, forward 2
>Flirt (ally)
Inflicts stress on ally but gives large crit chance
>Coitus (enemy)
Inflicts random disease on self, but stun enemy and inflicts damage based on how many diseases the hooker has
>Coitus (ally)
Large stress heal but spreads the hooker's disease on ally
>Orgy
Stun entire team, but large stress heal for everyone
>Striptease
Shuffle both sides randomly
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seems pretty shit
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>>182266265
>tfw you're a pussy and won't even think about summoning a shambler unless it's a novice dungeon
They're fucking nightmarishly hard on champ
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Guess I won't be fighting the Flesh and Swine Prince any time soon.
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I have to fight vvulf
I lost a level 6 occultist to him last time and i'm dreading it
I have
>man at arms
>leper
>vestel with a bunch of upgraded healing trinkets
>arbalest
I'm scared lads.
How do I get the courage to go forth?
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>>182266903
to nexus mods with ye
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>>182266903
I'm pretty sure that one dude has already made a class like that
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>>182267218
You will, after you come back from the ruins/cove, ya pussy. Just go in with your level 3 dudes.
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>>182265961
>He's the first battle
Pray for us
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>>182266270
Then... Maybe I'll use those -DODGE trinkets on NG+ and take advantage of DODGE being decent in my current playthrough?
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If I retreat from the Baron do I lose my progress in the courtyard
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>>182267346
That's the thing - I'm out of dudes below level 3.
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>>182267485
No, you just have to start the fight all over again. You'll still come back to the spot you retreated at.
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>>182266254
>is there like some sorta hero tier list? who's the best?
Best for what? Certain heroes are situational and can't be used efficiently everywhere, like Arbalest who's pretty much only good for certain bosses who don't shuffle the party.

Flagellant is OP now.
Houndmaster is top tier hero because his only mediocre skill is hound's rush. He can be used on any position, can self heal, stress heal, has good stun, great mark, high damage dog's attack with a cookie.
MaA trivializes certain fights like Vvulf, DD2 and the whole Weald with his guard.
PD makes DD3 a joke, also works great in the Ruins and Cove with blight and pretty much everywhere with stuns.
HWM is reliable damage dealer, riposte works great against mass party damage, combines well with Antiquarian who guards him and that activates riposte for both your position 1-2.
GR is the best range attacker and the lunge is still good for nuking someone.
Jester was good with Finale opening on position 1 but now it's kinda trashy hero who can only apply mediocre bleed and speed up your party with the ballad, still the best stress healer though. The way they reworked him is pretty shitty because you have to stack up damage and move yourself on position 1 with Solo and that wastes a lot of turns, most fights won't even last that long.
Leper is somewhat good for the most dungeons if you have -prot mark from HM but since the majority of Champion enemies have some fat faggot on position 1-2, Leper becomes less effective since he can only attack position 1-2.
Antiquarian is only good for boosting your economy if you are short on money for upgrades.
Crusader is just mediocre. Not bad, but not that good. I like holy lance because it allows him to work in shuffling parties like DD1 on the boss so he can always attack from any position. Can heal and stress heal and stun.
Occultist is actually a pretty good damage dealer and not primarily a healer, works great with someone who needs the mark.
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>>182267574
There's always fresh meat in the wagon buddy.

>>182267637

>flagellant
>OP
my fucking sides. the only thing he has going for him is self healing.
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>>182267354
Beautiful
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>>182267737
>large stress heal
>dot transfer
>rapturous
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>>182267637
what about arbalist? He deals insane damage with marks.
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>>182268624
>he
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>>182268624
also loads of utility, great camping skills and abolutely trivializes the siren fight
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>>182268895
>abolutely trivializes the siren fight

What boss doesn't he trivialize if he has someone marking for him?
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>>182269256
Shambler
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I FUCKIN KILLED VVULF!
FUCK YOU VVULF THAT WAS FOR MY LEVEL 6 OCCULTIST YOU KILLED!
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>>182268624
>what about arbalist? He deals insane damage with marks.
As I said, good for certain fights, not that good for the rest of the game.

>>182268895
>also loads of utility, great camping skills and abolutely trivializes the siren fight
Siren fight is one of the easiest in the game.
Just pick Antiquarian and use 3 holy water bottles on the other heroes.

>>182269256
>What boss doesn't he trivialize if he has someone marking for him?

Arbalest is a nigger girl though. Hero is bad when it's shuffled - see Shambler and DD1 boss. Also some bosses have 2-3 turns and that removes the mark before Arbalest can attack them.
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>>182269674
>2-3 turns that removes the mark
Does it work like that? I recall that bleed and blight only triggers once per turn, even if a boss acts multiple time
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Who should I use for the hag? My thought was maa-hellion-jester-occultist.
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>>182269890
>>Does it work like that? I recall that bleed and blight only triggers once per turn, even if a boss acts multiple time
bleed and blight trigger every time the unit takes a turn

marks and buffs/debuffs only last X turns so a boss like fanatic who takes several turns will only have them on for 1-2 of your turns at most
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>>182269938
One strategy I used was have a high prot hero go into the pot and just stay while my arbalest just kept shooting her.
They get out of the pot when on deaths door, so just heal them when they're out
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I've never used a jester before, how do I build one? What are good moves?
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>>182270284
>high prot hero go into the pot
Is there a way to influence the chances?
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>>182270386

Both bleed attacks, battle ballad and stress healing.

He deals poor damage but his buff is great
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>>182270407
I could be wrong, but I think the heros in the front are more likely to get picked.
Even if someone who you don't want in the pot gets in, you have your damage dealers to get them out fast
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Can't believe I missed the summer sale for this game

Should I wait for the next steam sale? Or just shell out the full price now
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>>182270407
Not sure, maybe it prioritises low-dodge heroes. Either way you can just whack the pot until the hag picks the hero you want to let stew for a bit.
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>>182270386
There are two general ways to use Jester:
1. The sub-par position three static build (Harvest, Slice Off, Battle Ballad, and Inspiring Tune), which is only really good for removing stress.
2. Finale builds, which are kind of bad now that Finale's been reworked to require building up damage bonuses for Finale.

I'd just use a high crit character or Houndmaster for stress reduction, and any high damage character (Grave Robber, Highwayman, Bounty Hunter) can kill things more efficiently than Jester.

Just wait for another Jester rework; he's sub-par for everything right now.
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>>182270804
Finale build is the one subpar now. The whole build up into solo into finale is just trash.

Using it like fucking casuals with bleed-ballad-tune-[anything] is better than relying on Finale now.
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>>182270608
It's well worth the full price, depends on how much of a poorfag you are.
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The fuck is this layout
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>>182270608
If you use the $1 per hour rule, Darkest Dungeon (even at full price with Crimson Court) is an incredible deal. A typical standard/Darkest mode playthrough is over 50 hours.

That being said, it'll probably go on sale for Halloween and Christmas if you're willing to wait.
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>>182270608
Pirate now, buy on sale.
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>>182271180
You haven't seen bad layouts
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>>182243724
>>forget to switch skills just before boss
God, me every time.
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>>182271025
I meant that the static stress-relief build was subpar, and finale is straight-up bad.

Jester is only worth taking for dedicated stress reduction. Honestly, I'd prefer a team with a Crusader spamming Inspiring Cry + a high crit DPS hero over a Jester any day. I would try using a Flagellant with Endure, but his other skills seem much more valuable.
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>>182271283
I'm at 200+ hours and ain't even done with DD yet.
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>mfw have no idea of good/bad party compositions/layouts
>mfw always mix it up
>mfw somehow still pull through
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>>182271641
Yeah, old Finale build even before DLC was so much better.
Funny how retarded niggers are still trying to defend anything devs do like Finale being good now that you have to build-up damage for it, then use Solo and then use Finale.

DD discord reeks of clueless people and white-knights who defend any bullshit devs occasionally do. Makes them look even worse when the devs change some mechanics into a better state like CC / blood.
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>>182228547
Just woke up so I missed this, but I don't believe that is the case.

I actually noticed that and checked it out, and what I think is happening is that the cleavage replaces her neck sash which sways so it looks like her tits are jiggling.
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>>182271974
I just take whoever I wanna level up.
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>>182271180
>not even 4 backtracks
that ain't shit
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>>182271285
I have been pirating it, but I want to buy it for updates and muh cheevos and because it's actually good
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>>182267737
He can consistently heal allies for like 40 health, and bleed enemies for 9*3 bleed if you play your cards right.

The self healing also makes him nearly invincible.
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>>182271994
>still trying to defend anything devs do like Finale being good now that you have to build-up damage for it
The only praise I've seen for it is for it's theme - the slow build up for grand Finale.

I have yet to see somebody actually praising it from mechanical side though. People from here, reddit and Steam forums all shit on it, because it is just plain bad.

So right now you have two Jester builds: one that's meh, other that's trash. To me, Jester is just there to annoy me when he takes up a slot in Stage Coach.
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>>182270101
So for the rare boss that has 3 actions per turn she's not as good?

She stilp does some of the highest if not highest ranged damage.
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>>182270804
I like the concept of the rework, building up damage and using finale as an ending move rather than an opening one makes sense thematically. The problem with the rework is not finale itself but the rest of his offensive skillset. When nerfing 1 skill makes the whole hero obsolete, you have to consider that perhaps the problem was that that one skill was the only not-shit ability he had.

As it was said in other thread, Jester is really position dependent for a hero that is supposed to jump around ranks. He would be better if Harvest and slice off both moved him and buffed his finale

>Dirk stab, Inspiring Tune, Battle ballad, Slice off and Harvest buff finale damage by 25% for the whole battle (rather than 20% for 7 turns, if the dodge debuff lasts the whole battle, so should the damage one)
>Harvest can be used from 321, and targets 1+2. Moves him back 1 space. Bleed increased by 1 at all levels
>Slice off can be used from 432 and targets 3+4. Moves him forward 1 space. dmg mod reduced to -50% to match harvest
>Dirk stab deals +15/20/25/30/35% damage vs bleeding
>Inspiring tune has a 50% chance of targeting an additional ally. Instead of healing a raw amount of stress it places 'Harmony' (Stress relief DoT) on its targets (stress heal/rd: 5/2 - 4/3 - 5/3 - 6/3)

Actually, i am tempted to modify the Jester with these and see if he becomes good (well except for the harmony part which can't be implemented right now because it doesn't exist)
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>>182269256
Shambler, hag, siren and crew all shuffle the team around, and arbalest is totally fucked when shuffled.
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>>182273220
Guess I just got lucky.. Arby did a lot of work on the crew fight.
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>>182271994
>Funny how retarded niggers are still trying to defend anything devs do like Finale being good now that you have to build-up damage for it, then use Solo and then use Finale.
fucking nobody is defending the new finale. It's unanimously considered to be bad.

The only thing people accept about it is that it fits the name "finale".
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>he doesn't reset if Reynauld or Dismas die
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>>182271974
>>182272196
I'm new only on week 10 or so. I always take a healer, a big guy in the front, a ranged guy, and then another melee guy but with ranged options like dismas or grave digger, or doggo, or head hunter

I just try to make parties i would use or consider from my mmo raiding days
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>>182273502
>getting attached to characters
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>>182273220
Arbalest's flare increases debuff resistance. Coupled with some debuff resist trinkets the siren fight becomes an absolute joke.
I once fell for the "bring an antiquarian to the fight because he useless m8" meme and then the antiquarian proceeded to use protect me twice on the siren. Never again
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>>182273502
I just lost Reynauld on Week 53 while trying to fight the CC baron. So no, I ain't resetting shit son. I will be hoping to revive him.
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>>182273194
Are those changes from a mod? If so, which one?

Some of those changes are interesting, but I dislike the idea of Drik Stab dealing extra damage to vs bleeding. Some flat damage bonus or crit chance would be better in my opinion.

I've been trying to make Jester into a hero that moves around a lot, but my concept was only partially alright.
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>>182273635
Still can't be as bad as your flagellant being taken by the siren and then redeeming her for 140 health
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I want Leper and Abomination in his transformed state ofc to DP me!
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>>182273220
Every team i take has at least 1 guy with movement abilities to reduce the damage of a bad shuffle and stuns to give time to get back in position

I guess when you think about it like that an Arbalist should never party with something like a Leper.
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>>182273724
I don't mean to be rude, but exactly what business does a flagellant have in the fucking cove of all places?
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>>182273502
>>182273604

>Tfw Dismas proceeds to one shot kill back line stress dealers by critting constantly
>Tfw he grapeshots the rest into oblivion.
I don't know what's up with Dismas, but he is one mean critting machine compared to most other Highwaymen. I even just started a new save and he's already fucking shit up with his base quirks and no trinkets. I would reset in a heartbeat if I lost him or Reynauld.
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>>182273184
>>182273419
Retards are unironically think that doing Solo into Finale somewhere mid-fight is a good change though.
Just had a discussion about it with a bunch of morons again.
Same people didn't even see how flawed the RNG-blood-drop mechanic is because you can't control the RNG drop yourself and that limits your decision making into ignoring the courtyard or kicking cursed heroes so they won't waste too much blood if you opened the courtyard early.
"Le get disease resist trinkets xD", fucking idiots.
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>>182273502
>>he doesn't reset if Reynauld or Dismas die

I already have the achievement, who fucking cares.
Kleptofaggot deserves instakick
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>>182273716
>Are those changes from a mod? If so, which one?
I actually theorycrafted those right now, that's why I said i am tempted to modify the jester's files to see if it is actually good

>Some flat damage bonus or crit chance would be better in my opinion.
I came up with 'increased dmg vs bleeding' because no other hero had anything like it (HM CC set notwithstanding) . I will see if it is possible to add raw dmg to a skill vs bleeding
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>>182274128
Death to Reynauld. Preferably on the first mission.
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>>182272004
Please enjoy this shitty colouring in job
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>>182274374
I've fapped to less.
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>week 10
>still only found 1 plague doctor
FUCK SHE'S SO FUCKING GOOD
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>>182274460
I'm going to need an example anon.
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>>182273842
infestation was high so i was mostly fighting bloodsuckers
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>>182274179
>I will see if it is possible to add raw dmg to a skill vs bleeding
Yeah it is. There's a trinket that does that and Pitch Black Dungeon does something like that too, albeit with a different skill.

I understand it's unique, but it's a bit too narrow condition for me. It would combo well with other Jesters, Houndmasters, and maybe Highwaymen. Then again, not all characters are meant to be great everywhere.

With exception of Man-at-Arms.
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>>182273194
I'll modify the Jester to test your ideas anon
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Jesus

FUCKING

Christ
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>>182275065
I hope that was the last battle, cause you're gonna have to throw out all your tools
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>>182274676
>There's a trinket that does that
which one? one of the backer ones?

>>182274938
thanks anon, I would probably just procrastinate it for weeks kek. Might want to leave inspiring tune as it is (or just add the 50% chance for extra target) since stress relief DoT is not a thing right now
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>>182274460
>>182272004
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How easy is it to mod in new districts?
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>>182275065
>everyone in death's door
>that loot
Damn, nigga. You've burned up all your luck for the rest of your life
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>>182275254
>which one? one of the backer ones?
Houndmaster's set bonus from the DLC.

Also, making changes to DD is piss easy, don't procrastinate it you mongrel.
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>>182275254
Only thing is i don't know where to find the growing damage vs bleeding effect, i mean there is one but it's a 50% dmg vs bleeding and that's it.
Or i may just be retarded that could be it
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Is anyone else frustrated by the fact that the vestal is the strongest healer and is basically a fucking MUST have for almost every quest above apprentice?

I really hate the bitch but you gotta use her or else you just get fucked. I always end of situations where I want to do a quest but I think "Okay, who can I use to heal?" and I don't happen to have a good vestal ready. I hate relying on occult heal and most characters with off heals have a shitty off heal that is barely worth using a turn for. Who besides vestal do you use to heal shit?
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>>182275263
Good work.
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>>182275679
I see that you wrote "vestal." Did you mean "Occultist?"
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>>182275538
You'd have to create your own effect for that. I should probably do as >>182275497 and stop procrastinating it (later)
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>>182275679
>He doesn't use HM HM L L for sick deeps and infinite self healing
PLEB
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Two questions

Does Dismas and Reynauld surviving the final boss count for the achievement if they've been renamed?

Does it count if they died but both got resurrected in Beyond the Grave events?
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>>182275679
> is basically a fucking MUST have for almost every quest above apprentice
stopped reading right there. Quit being wrong

That being said I'd wish Vestal had a higher ACC so frontline vestal can be something other than a meme
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>>182275263
Very nice.
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>>182275679
I use flagellant as a main healer.

He's the strongest healer in the game if you know what you're doing
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>>182273194
I suggested on the Steam forums that Slice Off and/or Harvest be changed to allow him to hit enemy ranks one and/or four in order to make his non-moving build more viable. Having Slice Off or Harvest move him around would do more harm than good unless they're buffed to do ridiculous damage in exchange for the constant movement.

If Finale's supposed to be something you have to build up to, it'll have to be made ridiculous-tier to be comparable to simply killing off enemies right off the bat with regular damage heroes. It'd have to hit multiple enemies with the built-up bonus damage, at the very least.
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How Do I know when Im ready to do certain dungeons? Trial and Error?

I;d rather not wipe my a team
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Why is the Crusader considered mediocre/not good /dadg/ ?
What would you change to make him better ?
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>>182276972
Are you within the level range? Congratulations, you're ready! Heck, sometimes I even sneak a party member 1 level lower along with the team.
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>>182277109

K

I;m blaming you if prophet wipes my team
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>>182276750
>Finale is now like cripple them.
>If you build it up you can just obliterate the entire backline

I can dig it.
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>>182277097
inb4 people turn a blatantly front row attacker into a back row attacker
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>>182276972
As long as you have heroes which are the recommended level and they have skills/weapons/armor upgraded then you're all good.
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>>182275538
>>182275820

//Niggas bleed
effect: .name "Niggas bleed" .target "performer" .chance 100% .curio_result_type "positive" .keyStatus "bleeding" .combat_stat_buff 1 .damage_low_multiply 20% .damage_high_multiply 20% .on_hit true .on_miss false

And that's all. I just took Bounty Hunter's effect and changed it to trigger for bleeding instead of mark and tweaked damage bonus.

Now start making mods.

>>182276750
Thing is, Jester has one of the weirdest skill positioning. His buffing skills are rank 3 and 4, his bleeding skills are 2 and 3. I wouldn't mind him "dancing elegantly between the ranks" as his descriptions says, as long as he could use his skills from more ranks.

Highwayman and Grave Robber have plenty of skills that can be used from three different ranks. And those skills are good.
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>>182277167
Blame your lack of skill my friend.
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>>182275679
But I'm consistently beating Champion dungeons without healers, what the fuck are you doing?
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>>182275828
Wouldn't that party get Shrek'd by high PROT enemies in front? Especially ones that resist bleed.
I guess you would possibly outheal the stress and the damage in a lot of situations, but that party still sounds so... Unclean.
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>>182277459
What? Do you not have any idea what HMs skills are? You have great backline damage. HM doesn't get shit for damage from his bleeds anymore.
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>>182261857
Jesus fuck
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any warnings for the fanatic?

ive got MAA+flag+BH+HM
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>>182275679
But doesn't occultist heal more
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>>182277379
>Niggas bleed
Thanks a lot anon too bad this is for my personal use only
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>>182267241
Doesnt seem like too bad a team anon if they're level 6. Or you could be a bitch and sacrifice some level 0's to get rid of him
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>>182277727

He has a billion turns.
You will always be fighting 3v1.
You need to hit rank 3 from all positions.

He's like the hag but he moves around, he's a fucking nightmare against the majority of comps, and I would never willingly fight him without something like two Vestals spamming Divine Comfort every round.
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>>182277097
His offense is ok, hitting hard on unholy enemies but he lacks a way to deal with prot and his crit isn't very high. His heal is weak although his stress heal is ok. Bulwark sucks because it's a once per battle prot buff that doesn't guard, making it a waste of turn unless you really need that prot buff.

Either let bulwark guard someone or let his emergency heal buff an ally's prot and some other stat, then crusader might be a better support tank
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>>182277801
At least report back how do you feel about those changes.

Red Hook managed to buff Highwayman with some small changes over time here or there. Surely our rag-tag bunch of Anons can make Jester not-shit AND true to his theme.
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>>182277097
His damage only really stands out against Unholy, even if you're using a party that can put him in position to Holy Lance repeatedly.
His healing and stress reduction are both subpar.
He's tanky, but he can't do much with it because he can't protect anyone (other than Antiquarian).

He's a jack of all trades, master of none, with major flaws (being nearly useless in the rear ranks if you aren't doing a full-blast Holy Lance party, and being nearly useless on the front line if the enemy front ranks aren't Unholy).
How would I fix him? Doing something with Battle Heal and/or Bulwark of Faith. Probably giving Battle Heal debuff removal and moving him backwards and/or allowing him to protect an ally with Bulwark of Faith.
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>>182275263
Fucking nice. Could we see a version where the underwear is very pink? I imagine she wears very lady like underwear
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>>182278270
Give him better damage output to make up for his deficiencies? Leper's currently better, although still having worse utility in almost every way?
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>>182278236
Since in my change Slice Off make the jester move 1 forward, Dirk Stab isn't as attractive so maybe make the stab move him 2 forward ?
I also removed the limit per battle on Solo and increased the debuff chance.
And then i made it so the damage to finale buff last the entire battle like Tracking Shot buff.
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>>182277097

He's just not very up-to-date, if you understand what i'm getting at. You know those games where the vanilla character is "balanced" but it just makes them weak as new characters compete with them - he is that guy.

He is not massively tanky because he doesnt have the heals of a Leper/Abom. His stress relief is weaker then Leper/Abom/Jester. He has all the flaws of other frontliners but without the raw bulk or damage to match, other heroes can at least hit row three from the back. He's not great in shuffle parties, there are better choices. His stun is passable but HM's is better, Hellion and PD are better stunners generally.

His undead slaying capacities are mostly irrelevant since Undead is the rarest and least threatening enemy type in the game, and even if you load up on Necro Collar and Undead Slayer, Smite still does pathetic damage - it should be annhilating skellies, instead it only barely keeps up with a Hellion just doing hellion things. A Pos 2 Vestal is a better Crusader than the actual Crusader and that is said.

He is jack of all trades, master of none.

That being said, ironically, I am actually using him alot these days in the Crimson Court, which makes everything I said seem overly critical. His Stress Heal is still somewhat passable, he at least can do damage, and he just fits into a religious party nicely so for really long runs I can just go infinitely. He opens with Holy Lance whilst Flag opens with Bleeds, and then they switch places for Flag to heal and him to hit front line.
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>>182278236
How about making Jester do more damage with Dirk Stab (and add damage + crit to Solo), but he debuffs himself when he uses them? Finale could be changed to do a lot less damage, but it could remove debuffs and possibly heal/stress heal Jester if he kills an enemy with it.
>>182278658
Repositioning himself to use Holy Lance without relying on an ally helps to increase his damage output.
Alternatively, a simple accuracy/damage/crit buff to Zealous Accusation would make him less terrible outside of the Ruins.
Simply being able to move himself in order to use an ability that can hit relevant enemies instead of spamming Inspiring Cry when he's out of position would be wonderful. Perhaps another forward-moving skill would be necessary, since Holy Lance can't hit rank one and two enemies.
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