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BASIC INFORMATION
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>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Character Overviews:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame Data
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 Moves per Character
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/

TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS
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>KBD
https://youtu.be/3whW6bh9Aks
>Buffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38iJWsjc_w8
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on Pad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5Ji23k4LU
>Getting Up
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
>Video Playlist for Combos with Every Character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n

NEWS
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>Tekken World Tour Announced
http://tk7.tekken.com/news/tekken-world-tour-announced
>New PC Patch Segregates Hackers and Other Fixes
http://steamcommunity.com/games/389730/announcements
>Tekken Bowl Announced
http://gematsu.com/2017/07/tekken-7-dlc-ultimate-tekken-bowl-announced
>PS4 Patch Version 1.03
-Changed Revenge Match Restrictions in Online Mode
-Made Adjustments to matchmaking conditions
-Made adjustments to game balance
-Fixed bugs related to some customization items
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Leave JDCR to me
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Eliza when?
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>>182212921
He looks like the dude from The Raid
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>>182212814
for sure. there's just no way for him to win as Gigas

i also didn't know he had a Bob. no idea why he isn't playing him more.
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Can anyone out there give me a rundown on Nina's best moves and actually useful strings? Thanks.
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She's so fun.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYQBInQKoeE

Practice.
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>>182213110
Maybe he thinks he can be the first to do well with Gigas?
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>>182213459
>Dotoring
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>>182213221
WHEN CAN I BUY HER REEEEEEEEEE
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>>182213560
Sorry man but Harada went from "In 30 days" to "Maybe this month".
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>>182213650
When did he ever say "in 30 days"? It was always "after 30 days," and no, they are not the same thing.
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When is dlc?
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Jesus Christ Steve is broken in this. He's honestly more unga than fucking paul
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At what ranks do people start skipping their animations? I'm going to break down and unga it up as Feng if I have to watch one more goddamn Alisa animation.
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>>182214404
Never. It straight up depends on the type of person you're playing against.
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>>182214404
I always make people watch my intro and also when I win. And when I accept a revenge match I wait until the last 2 seconds
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what character should I pick if I cant be bother to learn juggle combo?
Kuma or Jack?
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>>182214526
I know you're just trying to piss me off, but it's working.
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>>182214665
Jack or Kazumi.
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>>182214404
RAKKKKKIIIII
KROWY DAIYO
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>>182213776
WHEN YOU FUCKING SHITS
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>>182214404
If I get the Bryan intro for Kuma, I'm going to let it roll. It's too cool not to
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>>182212921
>worth 10 dollars on fantasy bracket

lmao good luck faggot jdcr is worth 20 times as much as you
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>>182214665
If you play Kuma you will definitely learn juggles, you just won't be performing them.
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Next time I see my opponent picks King I'm dashboarding. Fuck that character and the brain dead retards that pick him.
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>>182213459
Gigas is really good bruv if I'm being honest yeah really good I fink on playin im
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>>182214404
i normally let it play, makes it more exciting, plus they can see my costume, and it encourages them to let there's play so i can see their costume too. i only skip in revenge matches
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>>182215809
>and it encourages them to let there's play
No, it makes them think you're a faggot.
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>>182215920
i play alisa anyway, so they already do, can't be helped, and double anyway i like faggots
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I need someone to main besides Jack. Someone who is fast but not cheap. Who should I try?
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Need advice on a new character to pick up, new to fighting games in general, picked Claudio and Dragunov before and got a decent amount of matches on both but neither really clicked for me.
Looking for someone with inputs that aren't too extreme like Mishimas or Lee or some of that shit, tried Bob but I didn't like him either.

preasu herpu.
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>>182216243
kazumi aparently
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Is T6 Bob the most broken character in Tekken history?
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>>182216404
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>>182216323
Try Feng. Also, check out "Avoidingthepuddle" on youtube. Dude isn't the greatest, but is really damn good at teaching. Just don't take any aggressive comments of his seriously. He fucks around a lot
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>>182216323
Asuka.
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any Jin players in here know whether or not there is any benefit to using d+1+2 vs b+1?
Both enter the zen shit but its a lot harder to do the 12 one on a pad
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>>182216534
He's the reason I was able to reach ~50 wins on both Claudio and Dragunov, he's pretty good at giving you the goods, but he just said "pick a character you like" in one of his videos so I checked Lee and I wanted to cry because of how hard it is to perform combos with him.

Feng looks alright
>>182216794
I heard Asuka is really CH-oriented, is that okay for someone who started less than 2 weeks ago?
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>>182216534
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>>182216534
I really don't find them aggressive. I feel you're kind of a bitch if you can't take some shit like that.
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>>182216898
>Someone asks question
>Someone gives answer + a youtube guide so said person won't have to ask a lot of questions in the future
>"REEE SPOONFEED"

Kill yourself anytime.
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>>182216867
She is very defense focused, but I think that forces you to learn the game more, rather than just mashing your way to victory. She also has very easy execution, which also makes her good for new players.
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Alright /tekgen/ y'all have my attention - I need a new game to obsess over(used to be Overwatch - now I'm done with team based games). I used to compete on local tourneys in college for Tekken 6:


>Is the new game worth it?
>PC/PS4
>recommended fight stick?
>Law still OP?
>is it okay to main Law or Miguel yet?
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>>182216534
yep don't take aris too seriously lol
https://www.giantbomb.com/articles/aris-aris-bakhtanians-releases-statement-on-recent/1100-4007/
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>>182216508
>Anime poster adds nothing to discussion
Like pottery
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>>182217074
Yeah I get what you mean, playing Claudio I just focus on rushing down until my opponent makes a mistake and lets me get a hit in, haven't learned much now I look back on it.

I'll give her a shot tonight and see how it goes, thanks senpai.
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>>182216858
there are some differences but you don't really need to worry about it, b+1 is fine
and better in some circumstances since he steps backwards
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>>182217085
>new game worth it
Yes
>PC or PS4?
PC if you can.
>recommended fight stick
You don't need one at all but if you're looking to try one, get a Hori Rap 4
>Law still op?
Never was.
>okay to main law or Miguel?
Yes.
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>>182217085


Do you like Tekken enough to get a new game and play with people?
Pc is better, but lacks the ability to change the soundtrack for stages
play a pad, nerd
No
Main who you want. Game's fairly balanced overall
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>>182216858
b+1 moves you a bit back
d1+2 moves you a bit forward
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>>182217059
It's not like we have any information in the OP that every thread uses or anything, and you certainly couldn't tell anyone to read this nonexistent OP. Besides, people who are totally incapable of doing the slightest bit of independent research always stop asking stupid questions if you just answer them once.
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>>182217121
Mocking laughter from an anime girl is actually the most appropriate response to someone thinking Bob was "the most broken character ever"
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>>182217440
Is there any info in the OP for that specific question which was asked? No? Ok.
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>>182217269
wait... you can play this shit on keyboard?

>>182217312
I don't got many friends into fighting games anymore (not after college) - how's the online community?
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>>182217225
>>182217429
yeah but if you press the next button fast enough he doesn't even have time to move, which is why I was wondering if there's really any difference
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>>182217787
b+1 moves back and avoids highs for some time
d+1+2 moves forward and may avoid some moves but not consistently
b+1 takes 5f to enter the stance and d+1+2 takes 10f to enter, so if you wanted to do his 1+2 launcher if would take 5f longer from d+1+2, plus the startup of the move itself
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>>182217556
>character overviews
I can see why you're so intent on defending being a useless retard.
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>rematch
>middle of match where both players are clearly pressing buttons
>syncing
>connection lost
What the fucking hell man I just want to finish 2 matches in a row tekken
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Have you ever been so autistic you got mad at someone for answering a question in a general?
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>>182216534
get that bong water out of you skull you stoner it's the internet how can anyone be aggressive lololol 420
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>>182218004
oh shit and can you buffer the 1+2?
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>>182217643
You could play it on keyboard if you wanted, a wired pad would be good

The online is good, but keep in mind that most players will be bad/mashers. Could get matches here though
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>>182218309
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>>182218407
not sure
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I want to keep playing Asuka but I don't like defensive characters too much.

Any suggestions for characters I should try?
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>>182218746
Either learn some aggressive style, or try other characters out
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Post magic titties to save the thread from retarded arguments.
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>>182218746
non defensive characters
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Can I be a flashy *teleports behind u* stylin on niggas with Master Raven? Or will I get blown up if I try her fancy moves
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>want to get better so decide to watch high level play

>they're too high level and just do safe pokes and footsies because nobody's gonna do gimmicky shit that'll get them rekt

>get my ass handed to me online by gimmicky shit
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>>182218746
Josie or Lars?
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>Want to play Asuka
>Masturbate to her instead

hmmmm
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>>182218830
I can get behind that.
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Why the fuck does Dragunov have so many insane lows? I thought the point was that lows were high risk, but he can just throw them out like a fucking retard and get huge rewards off of them for little to no risk.
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>>182219310
>not doing both

What a pleb.
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>>182219049
lars, unless you wanna tell your parents you're gay
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>>182219467
>responding to tripfags
>playing the faggy animu protag is less gay than playing the qt

kill yourself
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Is there anyone out there who does video reviews of submitted matches?
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>>182219328
That's what you get, faggot.
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Anyone found any cool Dragunov tech?

>>182219385
They're pretty reasonable. Look at the frames.
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>>182219528
>fight a josie
>he has 0 fundamentals
>entire practice routine consists of doing that one combo every homo player uses
>I make one mistake and get launched
>half my hp is gone
>he makes several mistakes and I punish, but my char is honest so it takes at least 4 or 5 juggles depending on how much I poke to kill
>I make one more mistake
>I'm dead
go tell your parents you're gay or play someone honest/10
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>>182220095
God damn, what a little bitch
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>>182220095
Stop being a cuck and learn the matchup.
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>>182220095
Obvious bait
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>>182220095
There are no honest characters in Tekken, fuck off with this meme already
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>>182220095
0/10
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>>182220095
>but my char is honest
Your character is trash it would seem
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>tfw my laptop can hardly keep the game stable at 60 fps on the lowest settings so it drops inputs constantly
feels frustrating man
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I can't play against these fucking faggots that just turtle the whole game and base their entire gameplay off of le epic whiff punishing
Literally what the fuck do I do against these cock suckers?
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>>182220275
I don't post here much anymore, but from what I've seen the new generation of tekken players, is made up of whiny bitches. Sure that post may be bait, but it's only believable because the rest of the examples of the player base are so similar.
I'd love to see some of these posters on cam in tournament.
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>>182219310
>Am getting absolutely demolished online with Asuka
>Take a break and have a quick fap to her
>All of a sudden beating a bunch of people

Is this the secret to getting good
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>>182220464
do the same thing they are doing
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>>182220450
You should just get the ps4 version at that point if you don't want to wait until you can get a better pc/laptop. Save up for a better pc/laptop in the meantime.
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>>182220464
Bait and move around them. Stop being a bitch, if you're getting beat by something it's obviously a good strat against you. Not to mention whiff punishing is fundamental. Take the time to learn how to acknowledge that and maybe then you can get your panties unbunched and do some damage.
I don't get how in any universe keeping a good defense and punishing mistakes is bad. Get gud
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>>182220501
Maybe I'm not fapping to her enough, I'm still shit.
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Finally got back to brawler.
Not sure who I should try out next, thinking maybe Alisa or something. Wish Eliza was out so I could try her
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>>182220486
yea but newer players have to fight people online who have been playing for years

legacy players didn't grow up with an online mode so while they were learning they didn't get stomped on by pros
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>>182220195
its difficult enough to learn my own character

the fact of the matter is, every josie player knows that one broken combo that does half your life and its accessible from like a million different launchers
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>>182219013
ugh same. I tried to mimic pro level play but in order to do it succesfully I'd need to learn the strings/launchers/pokes of all the characters I play against and I really can't be bothered to go through all that practice just for a video game.

I should have stuck with LoL and Overwatch, such simpler games

It's really hard for me to care about the game when I spend so much time learning a character just to get btfo online by some cheesy spammer that I haven't sat down with and studied their moves

do i even want to learn this game anymore? Fuck idek.
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>>182214404
>Feng
>Unga
Wat?
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>>182222167
I'm not that guy, nor do I play feng, and I know people say he's advanced, but when you get the feng beat down it sure feels like he's just pressing buttons..
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>>182222285
the wonky ass animations make him seem like he's just pressing buttons imo. Such a flashy character.
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>>182220195
I personally despise people who only win because they knew my moves but I didn't know any of theirs

what is this league of legends?
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>>182222760
Please tell me this is bait.
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Is hwoarang actually difficult to play? How so?
I want a secondary when I'm not playing Xiaoyu
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>>182222879
He has a point in that aggressive players don't really have to learn anything other than their own character. They just get to constantly push their advantage. The more honest or defensive characters have to learn every other character if they want to stand a chance against them.

I would say I have a pretty solid grasp of the general fundamentals of the game, and I can regularly win against characters I have played against quite a bit. However, as soon as I run into an aggressive character that I don't have a lot of experience against, I get fucked.

For example, a lot of people were saying Kazuya was an easy win, and Akuma was tough. I do fairly well against Akuma, but for quite awhile that Kazuya hopping spin kick crap that hits low would catch me every time. The only difference was that I have played against Akuma in a variety of games, but I rarely ever played against Kazuya.
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>>182220095
>be dumb
>eat shit
>baaaaaah it's not my fault it's the character's fault
???
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>>182223262
i relate to your opinion. I hate the feeling of losing to a matchup I haven't studied yet, feels so bad.

I know I just need to git gud, which I will, but that feeling of getting hit by mixups and launchers that you didn't even know existed is just horrible
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just lost two mirrors in a row to someone only one rank above me with about 50 more wins
even though it only takes about 3 or 4 wins in a row to rank up, it took him 50, meaning he wins one, loses one, wins one, wins another, loses two, etc
in other words I'm better than him
but he somehow beat me twice
I am now irredeemably tilted and will lose 100% of the rest of the matches I play tonight, thank you fucked up tekken ranking system
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How do I stop getting launched/reversaled/deathfisted all the time by my Paul/Asuka friends?
I play Alisa and Dragunov.
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>>182223548
Be less predictable. Elbows, knees, and shoulders beat parries. Parries can be countered similar to a throw break. Block death fist.
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>get into vanquisher
>no 5 bars
>barely any 4 bars
>plenty of 3 bars

what the fuck is going on; did all these people get into here because theyre lagging up the ass?
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>>182223548
Stop pressing buttons
Stop pressing buttons
Stop pressing buttons
Then punish
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>>182223262
That's genuinely not true though. Effective aggression relies on you knowing the potential responses of your opponent, particularly evasive and crush moves. If the opponent has sniffed out that you're too scared to push a button or don't know his character then yeah, it'll look like they're mashing.
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>>182223696
It is the shitty ranking system. The higher you go the less people there are within a few ranks of you, meaning it is going to be harder to find matches with good connections. And because the garbage system, most people are limiting their matches to people within a few levels of themselves,further lowering the pool of players you can match with.
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I genuinely don't understand how to fight characters like this

she can infinitely loop her combos, so when am I supposed to attack? Even if I use my FASTEST punisher after blocking I still get hit, probably because I'm blocking while her combo isn't finished yet, but its never finished. I must be the biggest noob on the planet because she's apparently the worst character in the game, but I've literally never beaten her once because they ALL do that infinite flip combo that I don't know how to beat. Then once they discover I can't beat it, its the only move they use
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>>182222992
Precise execution required. Still cannot go a proper 3~4 after skyrocket even though i've been promoted to Expert recently. But damn Iike his mixups.
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>>182224220
welcome to tekken, where the only way to beat most characters is to spend most of your time studying their frame data, launcers, and mixups, then you have to hope you run into them online and remember everything. Hope you don't run into another character you haven't spent hours studying, or else you're going to shit on again.

fun game
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>>182224220
Even the people that were saying she was the worst were qualifying that with, "once you learn her gimmicks," so don't feel bad. A lot of people were losing to her until they figured out how her moves worked.
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>>182224220
>she can infinitely loop her combos
No she can't
If she's hitting you with mid-low dance then hopkick after blocking mid or parry low
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>>182224618
I get hit
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>>182224767
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>>182212827
>rank up to warrior
>get good matches and can hold my own
>2 days later
>can't win a single match
>losing to green ranks in ranked
>losing to cyans in unranked
How do you lose all your progress in just two days? Should I just put the game down forever, cause it feels like I can't git gud at all. And even if i do, I'll have to be at my absolute best constantly, then eventually become shit again.
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>>182225052
Players of the same rank tend to be way more skilled on the weekends.
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hypest music for T7?
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Shoutouts to the anon who posted his Dragunov Excel sheet a while back.
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>>182225234
Heat Haze
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>>182221886
>this is what 16ers actually believe

Mr.Naps was a regular at my local arcade back in the T5 era. I'll just let that sink in.
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>When the steve b+1 hits just right
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>can barely jet upper in training
>it's bryan's go to 14f punish
I hate having the execution skills of an 80 years old with arthritis
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>>182225352
i mean he does have a point though. The only people who really play fighting games these days are casual mashers, people who have been playing fighting games properly for years, and people who are new but don't wan to mash and want to actually play a fighting game.

The rare breed of new fighting game players who want to be good players and don't want to mash buttons get shit on by people who have years of experience already.

Most of the time, new players play against new players and have an even game. But the few times when a new player gets matched against an experienced player is a terrible experience for the new player, which ends up with the new players ranting.

There's a difference between getting absolutely shit on and learning while losing.

Just speaking out of my ass here, but from my experiences it's something I noticed.
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>>182225283
why does this song only play like once during arcade or story mode or some shit

when will pc players get the sick jukebox thing
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>>182225859
I have no idea why they didn't make into a stage song for one of the volcano stages. I'm hoping you guys get the jukebox soon, since the files for it were found on the pc.
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>High Powered Devil Kazuya shoots his beam as Shin Akuma shoots his Gahouken
>collides
>hit is so massive, the ground bellow it is crushed and lava shoots out
>hard cut to main menu
what did Harada mean by this?
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>>182225801
the kyu and dan ranks are nothing but new people and shitters and smurfs are a huge minority (and they usually last 2 hours since ranking up it's so easy until greens), what are you talking about
if a new player gets to the point where they're fighting people who can actually play the game then they should be able to understand why they're getting shit on and improve
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>>182225180

>this

an anon here explained it to me during the early weeks of this game

its because people who have been playing tekken since the original playstation games are now old af and have jobs, but also great at tekken; they don't have tons of time to play so they're not that high a rank yet but when they do play its on the weekends

it actually makes sense when explained in his voice
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When punishing while crouching with Dragunov, uf,n+4 is supposed to have me jump, and then do a kick in midair, right?
Because his uf+4 has similar startup.
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>>182226219
I'm sure you in your eminence learn new moves like fuckin Mega Man or some shit, and I'm sure once you get hit by something new once you block it 100% of the time in the future but new players aren't like that. It takes time just to get used to the concept of memorizing what your opponent used in battle. Normally noobs are only thinking about themselves, even after you tell them to pay attention to the other guy
>inb4 just record the match then go to practice mode

and do what with the footage? what help is a combo that you recorded but don't know how to do? I especially hate when people give that awful piece of advice
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>>182224316

I attempted playing Hwo some time ago. I can't JFSR outside of right stance and I do dumb d34 into I don't even know what to do, nor do I know his post S!

I kinda wanna learn him though, he seems fun, if a bit hard to learn.
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>>182226519
where the fuck did I say it wasn't going to take time and effort?
if you're too fucking lazy or don't have time to work on your play then play another genre, it has nothing to do with people being better than you when you start
how many times do you think knee got hit by snake edge before starting to block it?
how many times did jdcr get grabbed by king for half his health before teching that shit?
FGs will always been a genre where you have to eat shit and hold your Ls if you ever want to be decent, just like any other competitive 1v1 game or sport
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Eddy looks interesting, but the autistic flailing in his animations just pisses me off.
Similar thing with Raven, watching her moves gives me epilepsy.
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>>182226795
>it has nothing to do with people being better than you when you start
>>182226245
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>>182226970
what even is your point
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Whos a good character for mainly defensive gameplay?
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>>182227432
jack, feng, asuka, jin
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HEY GUYS WHAT IF KING HAD A
HIGH CRUSHING
SAFE ON BLOCK
LAUNCHER

remove d1+2
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>>182227557
shieeeeet but that's -20
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>>182227557
>SAFE ON BLOCK
uhhh
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>>182227557
>>182227672
and it has i25 as a startup.
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>>182226795
what i'm tryna say is, losing to a player of around an equal skill level isn't that bad, because you can learn from your mistakes and improve naturally.

But the rare time when you get matched up against a smurf who physically rapes you in every aspect possible to the point where you don't even know what's going on and can't learn anything from it is horrible. It doesn't always happen, but when somebody gets absolutely shit on by an array of mixups, launchers, poke, parries, throws, and blocks, they tend to get so upset at the loss that they go to forums and complain.

If somebody complains about getting hit by snake edge 10 times in a game then they're just garbage. Somebody complaining about getting dominated by a smurf is understandable, however, as the experience is so bad, people feel the need to complain.
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>>182227557
>safe
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>>182227672
>>182227719
>>182227727
>>182227743
fuck my ass, I've never been able to punish it
does king stay crouched during the recovery?
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>>182223475
He beat you therefor he is better than you.
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What are your go to Tekken faps? Pic related, the Nina/Anna naked humiliation shit always ticked my boxes.
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>>182223475
Maybe you've just been ranking up on shitty opponents.
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>>182223475
>I lost a mirror twice in a row
>I am therefore better than him
are you lowtiergod?
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Josie and Lili

What is each playstyle like? I'm finally man enough to play a female fighting game character.
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>>182227731
i feel like a lot of the time when people get beat up they assume it's some super pro purple smurf whereas it's probably just some green guy who is only like 2 weeks better at the game than you.
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>>182228682
Josie for Tits. Lili for Ass
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>>182228738
lili for legs*
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>>182228682
lili's is flopping about and josie's is making people angry
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>>182228346

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr AAAWWWR AWWWWRRRRR
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>>182228346

Lili x Asuka. Works every time.
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>>182229309
are you the king ryona guy
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>>182228728
also a true point. Regardless, getting stomped is not a fun experience lol.
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>>182229414
if I hear paul's retarded deathfist howling one more time I'm gonna uninstall the game
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>>182229595
URAAAAAHHH
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>>182229414
leo is a dilf, "dude i'ld like to fuck"
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>>182229943
leo is a chick, dudes don't look like that no matter how feminine they are

t.faggot with a twink femboy bf
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>>182229595

He hollers more than my one coworker. Shoulda called him Black Baby . And fuck Chad and $hilltown mayor who want white people to be emaciated mannequins while everyone else throws punchlines at them.

Real talk, fuck them for fucking Paul's character up.
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It is kinda unfair that Paul can do a shit ton of damage with a few hits in a combo as opposed to Jin or Lee.
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>>182229974
sure they do
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>>182230394
distinctly manly, unlike leo
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>>182230367
i don't really give a fuck about learning juggles or combos in this game.

should i play paul?
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>>182230367
jin and lee have better wall carry even though they are higher execution characters
jin's combos are p easy until you get into 100 dollar combo autism also
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>>182230441
How's this not manly
tfw Leo has bigger pecs than you
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>>182230441
aw, poor eliot will never be a waifu
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>>182230615
True but still low level of execution + absurd damage is kinda horseshit.

Also Devil Kazuya's combos are kinda weird to pull off because of no df1,4
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>>182230532
Yeah just do Deathfist and Demoman and you're good to go.
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>>182230725
The only thing that is really horse shit is that Gigas is so big and such but doesn't have Paul-tier damage.
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>>182230532
just let people beat you up and then counterhit them with rage deathfist you will get mad hatemail shit is so fucking hilarious
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ZYPqTsJ_A
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On a scale of 1-10 how hard is it for a new player to fighting games to learn Steve Fox?
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I just picked up tekken and I can't perform this combo consistently mainly because of the sneak up cancel:
https://youtu.be/Ht4D-Vq_n-k?t=1m8s

Can I skip this for now or do I need to lock myself in training mode until I am able to perform this 100%?

Asking because I have 0 experience and I'm not sure how much training mode grinding I need to do before I'm "ready" for actual matches.
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>>182231871
You can win matches with nothing but jabs.
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Why is it every time I get out of a losing streak I run into a rage quitter?
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>>182232060
B-But my intent is to get gud at the game.
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>>182231871
The answer is just do simple shit like qcf1, f4,4,3 b4,3 S! dash 3,2,1 instead of shit you can't do yet. Work you way up until you can pull it off. Oh and you're probably never gonna be ready when you go online. Just grit your teeth and go for it.
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>>182231831
10
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>>182232191
shit I mean 3,1,2 not 3,2,1. Fuck I'm not even sure anymore
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>>182231831
hard imo, hes a somewhat unorthodox character since he doesnt kick, cuz hes a boxer. Plus his gameplay its essencialy trying to catch the opponent with counter hits. not to mention his stances
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>>182232094
Because you play King.
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>>182232182
When you learn a new language or skill, do you cram all the available knowledge on day 1, or do you gradually add it up?
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Remember to filter lucifer and not respond to his posts. With your help we can avoid his shitposting and webm spam.
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>>182232267
>>182232270
FUG! He looked like such a great character.
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>>182232191
>>182232268
This was exactly what I needed, thanks Anon.
Is there a combo vid that you can recommend to me? I guess the problem with this one vid is that it may have only listed the "optimized" conversions from certain starters instead of listing some easier ones.

>>182232434
What you are saying is true but I at least need some bnbs to take with me rather than go "shit, what do I use to follow up after I get X?". I admit that I am working from the ground up, but I want this experience to be as structured as possible with the minimum amount of mashing which I assume I can achieve by making sure I at least have a plan on what to do on certain situations that I am going to create.

Matchup experience I am sure is something I will have to build one ass kicking at a time but I at least want to know how to use my chosen character even on the basic level.
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>>182232270
>unorthodox character
That's really more of a problem for vets than newbies though.
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>>182231215
It's fucked up. I want my big characters to be big damage power houses like Paul but in tekken you get jack and gigas who are defensive keep out characters.
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>>182232658
im not saying dont try him, im just saying theres easier characters out there.
dont be like me and start playing the game with prob the hardest character to begin with

>>182232819
yh i guess, but i think he still should stick with easy to learn characters
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>>182232880
What do you recommend?
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>>182232749
yeah but your bnb may as well be something easy, learning what moves to use in neutral is way more important then getting 12 more damage on a juggle
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>>182232658
you can play pretty much any character in a basic way, you don't need to play 'full execution' steve until you learn the game, just if you picked an easy character like kazumi you'd be playing her at closer to her full power more quickly
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>>182233013
That was my point actually. I was reaching out for an easier BnB.
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>>182232191
Am I supposed to miss the last hit of the 3,1,2?
I am not doing this against the wall if it helps.
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>>182232749
None that I'm aware of. Just do some simple shit.
df2, f4,4,3, b4,3 S!, 3,1,2
CH wr2, d2, ws4, b1,2 S!, 3,1,2
uf2, f4,4,3, b4,3 S!, 3,1,2
db3, d2, ws4, b1,2, S!, 3,1,2
qcf2, f2,4, f1+2 S!, 3,1,2
f1+2 S!, 3,1 4,1 d4,1,3
uf4, d4,1,3

And if you want want oki then do wr2 instead of 3,1,2 as an ender. I probably missed some launchers but you'll figure out what to put because the combos I put have mostly the same shit in it.
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>>182233284
No you hit the whole thing. And if you can't get that then do ff3 instead.
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>>182233308
Thanks anon, you are a super cool guy.
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>>182233308
>>182233284
>>182233368
One last thing, are there character specific combos in this game?

I'm not trying to learn special combos that deal more damage against certain character rather than avoid combos that /dont/ work on certain characters.
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Would I be like Knee if I go pro in this game?
>have some beef with another pro guy not knowing the reason for it
>flies alone
>visit international tourneys alone
>go back home alone
It's lihe only thing that's keeping him alive are his fans. He's so dead inside.
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>>182233480
Some combos may not work on Xiaoyu and Bears.
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So after fooling around a bit in training mode, I found this with Josie: u/f+3 f+3 2,3 d/f+4,4

Is there a more optimal combo for her off of u/f+3?
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>>182233567
Yup. For whatever reason King's ws2,2 after fc df1 is inconsistent with the bears. It whiffs entirely.
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>>182233605
i saw a video with u/f+3 f+3 3-2~f 1-3 i think.
I'm probably a bit off on the notation but cancel the 3-2 with the little dash she does and then from that hit 1-3. Sorry if I fucked it up.
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>>182233746
>>182233605
shit woops i forgot a part it should be
u/f+3, f+3, 3-3, 3-2~f, 1-3
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>>182233746
>>182233826

Thanks man, I'll try it out next time I'm in the lab.
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>>182233392
No problems. I just happen to be learning Drag as well anon.
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>>182233284
you're not, dash for a tiny bit longer before doing 3,1,2
but it does happen sometimes so don't worry if you sometimes miss the second or third hit

>>182233308
>qcf2, f2,4, f1+2 S!, 3,1,2
f+2,4 f+3,2 does more damage

>f1+2 S!, 3,1 4,1 d4,1,3
s! f+(2),4 3,1 b+4,3 does more damage and will wall splat. also easier imo
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>>182233986
I managed to do it a couple of times after following your advice. I might stick to fff3 to ensure I get it every time though.
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Bears were a mistake
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>>182234081
do wr2 at least because it gives you (better) oki
3,1,2 is really easy though
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>>182219349
I can get behind this
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>>182217085
Yes
PC
Don't fall for le epic stick meme. Just use controllers
No
Yes
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Spoiler: Evo top 4 will be jdcr, saint and knee again.
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>>182234494
I will be the 4th
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>>182234494
Bruv...
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I want to get good at Leo, but s/he has a shitty d/f+1

What am I supposed to use instead?
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>>182234628
>she has a shitty d/f+1
What use exactly do you want from a df1?
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>>182234691
a free 50/50 mixup duh
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>>182234628
You mean d/f+2?
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>>182234691
standard safe mid poke, more than a dick jab range attack
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>>182234576
if im bein' honest
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>>182234494
i expect there to be an american in there, you know how they are, maybe geesemaster?
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>>182235071
How about you pres any other button combination with Leo?
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>>182234628
It's a generic df1 that even has a knock down NCc extension. What do you mean it's shitty?
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>Switch to PC
>Get to Mentor with a 100% win rate
>too afraid to continue.
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>>182235358
it doesn't force a 50/50 and doesn't lead into 40% damage like the rest of leo's kit, duh
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>>182235380
>Mentor

Buddy only start sweating bullets when you hit green ranks.

>I haven't played ranked in two days cause i'll get demoted.
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>>182234576
>Bruv wins EVO 2017
>With Gigass
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>>182234576
If this clown won evo I will destroy my ps4 and never play video games again.

>He can only use gigas (green)
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Been away from this general for a couple of weeks.

Have we all decided who is the most honest character yet?
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>>182235380
>Anything below Grand Master
Absolutely braindead you shouldn't have issues
>Grand Master
Mini cut off barrier for scrubs. Cheesy shit and spamming is almost guaranteed, if you don't block it they will continue to use it the entire game
>Brawler/Low Green
Same as grand master, sorta
>High Green ~ Yellow
Familiar with game mechanics, know their character relatively well, not a ton of game knowledge though
>Yellow +
Gud
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>>182236317
>if you don't block it they will continue to use it the entire game

That's the way shit should work at all levels.
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>>182234150
*crushes you with his butt*
*fish in the face*
Nothin bearsonnel, kid
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>>182232658
>He looked like such a great character.

He is, he's just difficult to play
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>>182236205
>ps4
lmao
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>>182237097
Gotta keep my PC for work.

>I'll somehow ban my steam account and never play computer games either.
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>>182237097
Why would you not play on the tournament standard?
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Daily reminder; never reply or quote lucifer unless you like shitting up the general.

Filter him out or just ignore him if you're too lazy to filter him.
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Does anyone know what I get off a counterhit db4 as Jin
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>>182237141
How the fuck you ban your steam account you cheating cunt?
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>>182237313
Try this:
CH d/b+4; b+2,1; d/f+1,4; (S!) b+3~f~1,2
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Someone ragequit my promo win yesterday, but we doing this shit today, I feel motivated, i'm getting that green title.
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>>182238203
you can do it anon
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>>182238203
*blocks your path*
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>>182218746
>Asuka
>defensive
Love this meme
Just mash into mixups like 99% of them
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>>182237313
>>182237503
Scratch that, best damage I could find for 67 damage:
CH d/b+4; 3; b+3~f~1; 4; (S!) b+3~f~1,2
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>>182238579
Thanks
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So what up with Lili players that keep ducking the second they get into pressure into a dickjab? Most Lili players I've fought so far have done that over and over. It's kinda annoying. And they still do it when I launch them out of it.
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>>182239009
Blame their d/f+3+4, dickjab is is their nature because of it
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>>182239124
Lili player here. This pretty much.
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>>182237341
Bro can you read.

I mean BRUV

I'm saying if king jae won evo with gigas I WOULD ban my steam account somehow in order to never play tekken/video games again.
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>>182212827
Should I buy the Hori real arcade pro n. Hayabusa?
>>
I have no idea how to fight king
I keep getting counterhit out of everything and if I stop pressing buttons I have to play guessing games with his grabs
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>login
>get this
today is gonna be a good day i feel it bruvs
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>>182239460
Now I didn't research this pad. I've been using a hori rap 4 (newest model with PC button)

I truly like the new hori buttons and stick but I have an octo gate on the way and some sanwa buttons to see how daily use is different.

Looking back on it I would say if that is $200 go for the Etokki korean omni instead unless you have to have the features the hori gives.
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>>182239534
>"You can now access all content"
>ondisc locked arcade items still locked
>sony bribed music select still missing
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>>182239582
This 150$ on playasia, apparently 170$ would be the official price
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>>182234494
speedkicks is gonna win evo though
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*slowly walks towards you*
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>lose 2 matches against a lili
>get queued up against him again
>lose the match by and inch and let him promote
>he win quits me

lili players<
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>>182240378
you lost lmao
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>>182240378
>expecting someone to stick around against some scrub they've stomped three times in a row

lol
>>
PS4/Asia competition must be insane if Sooa can barely make it in green ranks.
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>>182240441

but the last match was 2-1 and I lost by 5 hp

literally started to figure him out and he just bailed
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>>182240531

I meant I lost it 2-3 in the end

was writing that mid fighting someone
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>>182240462
Yes PS4 is insanely laggy and psn does never help.
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>>182240726
Setting it to 4/5 bars on PS4 is exactly the same as PC, I play both and notice no difference.
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>>182232094
>I'm friends with this guy on Steam
What a loser, removing.
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>>182232094
>command grab
well there you go
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>>182232094
Because your King is extremely gay
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>>182234576

oh my days
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>>182240795
lmao
>>
Sometimes I look at someones steam profile after a match. Their steam names are ambiguous but in the description theres just a girls name like Leanne or something. Are there grils playing tekken? Are there girls in this general right now?
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>>182241407
my name is molly but im not a girl
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>>182241372
I mean its true, 1-3 is 3rd world wifi shitters, 4-5 is wired.

Even on PC I meet Wifi faggots everyday, most of them are from Spain or Italy
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>>182232094
>that terrible king custom
these are the only people I dodge
If I see anyone wearing some retarded bright color fairy wings neon aura faggot hitspark costume on any character, I don't give them the runback and never accept any fight requests from them ever again

People like you are the worst, instead of either putting some effort into making a decent color-coordinated outfit, making an interesting reference costume, or just playing with the default, you went out of your way to make your character look as annoying and repulsive as possible

fuck you, you deserve to get rage-quitted on
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>tfw 90 wins and 3rd dan still
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>>182241867
keep!
winning!
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>>182241963
That's some hot Lili.
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>tfw 9 wins and still 3rd dan
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>>182241867
I'm Brawler with 65 wins but people can't see my 166 casual match wins I have for practice.
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>>182225352
what was he like
>>
Yo, what's up with Alisa's u/f+4, 4? Why does that shit force crouch and why is it only -12 on block?

I've been wondering why I've been coming across so many Alisa's ungaing with that shit online.
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>>182241516
>putting some effort into making a decent color-coordinated outfit
Hey, I went out of my way to get that King mask just so I could coordinate the colors!
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>>182242293
Cause she's all gimmicks but the anime neckbeards in here dont want to admit it
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>>182242129
Pretty quiet dude, kinda small. Wore a hoody pretty much always and had his hair super long. Also tended to slap people's shit hardcore in Tekken 5, and then years later doing the same when SF4 came out. I remember him making E.Ryu look godlike years before it caught on in the general competitive scene.

I sometimes forget how bumping SVGL (and MGL) was back in the day. Mr.Naps, Ricky/Rikki Ortiz, Dacidbro, Copperdabbit, Apologyman, Filipino Champ...It's almost sad remembering it.
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>>182242370

That's nice and everything but what are you supposed to do about her hopkick? Do I really have to just punish with WS 4 every time? That's fucking retarded.
>>
>got 3-1 by a king
>taunts and hits me after rounds

Why are king players so slummy

>>182239460
I have it, it's nice. Not so heavy and it's quite responsive, definitely a good gateway to sticks
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>>182242293
sidestep
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>>182242605

>Why are king players so slummy

Because they only get to play a match every 20 years since everyone dodges King.
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>>182242370
>muh gimmicks
lol

>>182242510
you're at +12 and you're crouching. if you just want some quick easy damage you can ws4, but if you want a knockdown into oki you could do literally any move from full crouch and she'll have to guess right to block it.
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Based UK Yoshimitsu dominating EU Tekken and /tekgen/ doesn't say a thing
>>
Who is the worst new character and why is it Katarina?
>>
>>182242680

It seems to track both directions.
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>>182242293
It's actually -13. That one frame doubles the punish damage for most of the cast and lets you launch if you play Josie or Kazuya.
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>>182242449
that sounds nuts, all those guys are killers.
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>>182240091
BRUV BRUV
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>>182242738

>but if you want a knockdown into oki you could do literally any move from full crouch and she'll have to guess right to block it.

That doesn't help you much if you're playing King and Feng.
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>>182242769
Wouldn't even take a game off a high tier US player or a jap girl
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>>182242885
Yeah, for a time it wasn't too hard to find them hanging around at either of the arcades mentioned. Nowadays though both places have shut down their arcades, and Round 1 in San Jose isn't exactly the best place for fighting games. 2008 to 2012 was a pretty special time in Norcal, I'll miss it.
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>>182243002
both of those have full crouch sweeps?
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is the main difference between josie and asuka is that one is more offensive and the other is more defensive? they both seem like CH machines who are fairly simple to pick up.
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Orpheusti get on Discord. We need to schedule our tournament match.
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>>182243045
Go to bed Pokchop
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>>182243047
Did you git gud as a result of playing against them and you're like a tekken monster now?
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why is it always yoshi players who want to spam 10 strings
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>>182243053

>King's FC d/f+1
>useful above brawler

No.

Feng doesn't have one from full crouch.
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>>182243210

asuka hem hem
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>>182243210
King's too
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>>182242769
this guy needs to go out more
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You're not playing Tekken if you're not a Mishima
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>>182243210
because you can't block the last four hits
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>>182243173
Not so much. I played a lot of Tekken 5 back in the day, but I dropped out of that in favor of 2D fighters for the longest time. I focused on BB for a year after it dropped in arcades (playing as Hakumen against Copperdabbit and Goryus was about as fun as getting your asshole stomped off), and since about 2006 the GG series has been my main focus...so I am bretty gud when it comes to Guilty, but I only just got back into Tekken in any serious way with 7, though I did dabble with Tag 2.
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they really need to lower Law's power crush damage
balance is all over the place in this game man
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>>182243426
who you play in guilty my guy? i was a pretty dedicated zappa until xrd.
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>beat the shit out of friend with josie
>'pick a fair character faggot'
>tell him to pick a character for me
>end up on heihachi
>spend the next 5 games practicing electrics, throw in a couple d/b+2s
>he leaves my apartment

so this is how i get rid of shit friends
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>>182242771
Shaheen. He looks super uninspired, his fighting style is super uninspired.
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>>182243514
https://twitter.com/harada_tekken/status/639378616141217792
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>>182242771
claudio
his install is lame, he looks like a faggot and his hopkick is retarded
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Alisa's WS moves are so fucking trash.
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>>182243659
This tweet makes no sense when t7 ling is a thing.
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how to break out of grabs that go on until the game ends
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How important is sticking to one character in this game? I know in GG, any number of characters >1 is already dangerous territory, but there's just so many fun characters in T7.
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Nerf these titties I can't play like this
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>>182243790
pretty much everyone in tekken plays the same so go ahead an switch all you want
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>>182243809
sniff sniff
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>>182243572
I mained Potemkin from vanilla AC all the way to Revelator, but his nerfs eventually took their toll, and I had to face the reality of not being FAB. Nowadays I mostly play Raven, but I still play/practice Pot as a sub.

Zappa was always really cool, I hope he makes it into Xrd eventually.
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>>182243659
Law's power crush has all of the positives of most that are similar with 2.5x the damage. And it's not like law is missing anything from his kit that would require it.
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>>182242293
Tekken doesnt sell well in Japan so they made Alisa to get the Japs hooked: slutty kawaii anime whore with a lot of cheap shit so they can scrub out a few wins online and keep playing. Obviously the average 4chan neckbeard gets instantly baited by her too. Based Harada, fuck pure Tekken.
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I need to actually main / use a male character in a fighting game for once, since I've only been using females.
Have been using Kazumi until Eliza comes out to fully switch to her, but for my male person, I was thinking about Claudio. Aside from the hopkick meme, what's his gameplan? Is his execution hard?
Sorry for blog posting
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>>182243916
I really like Pot but I always felt like all the fun I have with Pot I also have when I get Raoh with Zappa. Raven is probably who I'd play if I was going to pick GG back up if Zappa isn't added. His movement looks great.

Yeah he definitely is one of the cooler characters. All the summons are fun but I wouldn't say no to him getting some new ones if he's added to Xrd.
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d4 is the perfect Feng button to hit opponents with after you KO'ed them. Proper humiliating. Even if I am half a screen away I double or triple dash to get a few d4's in on their stupid body lying on the ground. This is pretty much the most fun thing about Tekken IMO.
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>>182244012
So why not make Lucky Chloe much better?
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>>182244012
i might have to switch to alisa
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>match with some dude playing Nina
>he goes all out doing her gimmicky ss cancels and stuff
>beats me 2 rounds and keeps hitting my body taunting me and shit
>beat him the next 2 rounds after i downloaded him
>final round
>we're both low hp
>rage drive with gigas and scrub him out with the 50/50
>winquit him
>he's apparently the only one in the lobby rn and keeps getting matched with me
>i keep hitting decline
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>>182244012
You are retarded. Tekken does well in japan via the arcades.
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>>182242697
I don't dodge King

Since I know how King players play it's basically free points

>muh I run towards you
>muh I charge towards you
>muh tombstone
>muh stagger kicks
>muh shitty mixup onto throw

Get fucked
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>>182243773
This isn't 100% accurate, but it should help you against King.
Most escapes are either 1, 2, or 1+2. Just play around having the CPU repeat throws in practice mode.
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It's absolutely impossible to play against a laggy Feng
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>>182244063
I've been playing Claudio since release, about 200 wins with him, he's all about getting that Starburst as early as possible and just mixing it up, the best starburst move damage-wise is f1+2, 1+2 you can pull around ~75 dmg with it (can't remember) just look up guides and shit, he has a pretty sick movelist with easy execution.
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>>182244298
what the fuck
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>>182244125
The fun of Potemkin for me is having a 21 frame backdash that's invincible from frames 1 to 20, and a command grab that puts out as much damage as a super. Raven is a lot of fun. I like to think of him as "Low-effort Millia", though while they do have the same gameplan, they're very distinct as characters.

As much as I love talking about GG, I don't wanna flood the Tekken general with it too much.
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>>182244298
This is why people dodge King.
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>>182244395
i always liked having insane range and combo damage, despite being a grappler. and you're right.

who do you like in tekken, as a pot main?
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>>182244287
that sure as hell isn't how they play against me

>random hopkick
>hit you with that weird as fuck low launcher from across the screen
>doing the unblockable body flip at every chance
>10 hit combo
>stagger kicks right as you do a high
and then my favorite
>random iSW that crushes every thing you do
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>>182244298
>hope he messes it up
>literally spamming 4 button macro
lmaooo
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>Yoshi's second suicide stab instantly kills
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>>182244287

Sounds like you're still in blue ranks. It gets better, don't worry.
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>>182244474
You know, Potemkin is actually the outlier when it comes to characters I like playing. Back in T5, I was mostly playing Yoshimitsu and Asuka, and then dabbled with Lili when Dark Ressurection came out. In Tag 2, it was Asuka/Lili, and now in T7 I'm maining Kazumi. I also fool around some with Akuma and Josie, though the bulk of my practice time is indeed with Kazumi.
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>>182244365
Thank you.
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>>182244485
>New to fighting games
>Quick match with my main man Feng, having a blast and just enjoying fighting people and being like "Fighting games are kinda cool, I can't believe I missed out on this"
>First time versus King
>Rolling Death Cradle every round into some shitty hopkicks
>Never been madder in my life
Fuck King.
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>>182244627
I'm a Green rank
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>>182243948
It's -17 while most are -12 on block
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>>182244298
>Most escapes are either 1, 2, or 1+2

No way.
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is bryan's power crush safe on block?
it's ungodly fast
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>>182244658
In T5 I played Ganryu and didn't play until Tag 2 where I did Ganryu and Bob. Now in T7, I also play Kazumi.
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>>182244365
The combo is STB f1+2,1+2 dashin f3 ff4 b3 f2 b4,2
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Does the game start to run worse over time for anyone else? I swear I have to restart the game every hour or it stutters like fucking shit
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>>182244838
Good taste my dude. When I saw the tiger I didn't really have a choice.
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>>182244806
It's high
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>>182244913
more or less. tigers all day and fundamentals all night.

you on PC or PS4?
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i hate all kung fu characters in this game.
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Is Law for mongoloids or does he actually take skill?
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>>182244451
>>182244367

If a King player ever lands a chain throw out of JGS on you, you have bigger problems than the King player. I'm sorry to break it to you, but you're probably in a coma.

The only breaks you need to know are GS, iSW, Tijuana twister/suplex and his crouch dash chain throws.

To simplify it even further:

If he crouch dashes at you to throw you, break with a 1. He is attempting to RDC you 90% of the time. If that doesn't work, just hammer 1+2 to break the most damaging follow-up for either variation.

If he throws you at close range, hit 1 every time because it's most likely GS. It's pretty easy to see the single-hand animation to know when you have to hit 2 which covers both TT and suplex. Don't worry about muscle buster because he can't buffer it out of anything due to command overlap.

You don't have to worry about iSW until you get out of shitter tier.

It's amazing that people are complaining about King's throw breaks in Tekken 7 when in previous iterations you had to literally watch and recognise the correct break for every single character.
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Mishima Dojo is the perfect stage

>Dark
>Moon lighting
>Walled stage but no breakable ones or floor breaks
>Decently big
>Hype music
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>>182244938
wait, is it?
are you talking about the ff2?
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What are some of your fabourite tracks for T7?

No Jukebox, faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePVxADp_UCg&t=344s
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>>182245134
thanks bro
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>>182245134
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE THROW IS BECAUSE ALL HIS BEST ONES HAVE MISLEADING ANIMATIONS AND THEY'RE PURE GUESSING GAMES IF THEY LAND
ALSO NOBODY MENTIONED JAGUAR STEP BECAUSE THAT SHIT SUCKS
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>>182245147
Bryan punch thing armor move is high
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>>182245150

Violet Systems is the only stage in the game that has both good starting and final round music.
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>>182244764
Not true. Kat's is the same and -17 with half the dmg
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>>182245090
PS4. I host weekly fight nights at my house, so most of my fighting game purchases are on PS4 out of necessity.

I do have KOF98UMFE, Melty Blood AACC, and Yatagarasu on steam, and VampSav on Fightcade though.
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>>182245257

>IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE THROW IS BECAUSE ALL HIS BEST ONES HAVE MISLEADING ANIMATIONS

Two of them do: GS and iSW. Every single other one is recognisable.

At your level of play, you will never ever see iSW because it requires iWR buffering to execute.
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>>182243829
But they all have their own huge move list and obviously you have to practice different combos for different characters. Quite a lot to learn.

Tekken characters don't fit easily into traditional fighting game archetypes but to say that they all play the same is misleading at best.
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>>182245263
huh
the animation makes it look like a mid since it's basically dickjab height
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>>182245283
I'm on PS4 also since my PC broke. I had VampSav and Jojo's on fightcade though.
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>>182243309
if a King does it it's most likely them messing up the string into grab. Unless they really are just bad and think 10 hit combos are real or something.
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>>182245128
mongoloids.
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>>182245150
Both ending credits songs
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>>182245280
>>182244764
Actually to further my point, Lee and Kat, both have mid kick power crushes, exactly like Law's, and they do less than half the damage. while having similar(or longer) startup.
It's literally just thrown in on Law for no reason, his power crush is way too strong. 40 to 60 damage is ridiculous. At least with Paul he's braindead and most of his moves are simple, but Law so much shit already it's crazy.
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>>182245525
As much as I love Jojo's, I could never quite wrap my head around the game. Something just never clicked for me in regards to it.

I know you said your PC is busted, but if you have discord or something, feel free to drop your username in here and I'll shoot you a message. If not that, then your PSN handle would be fine. Fatigue is finally creeping up on me and I feel the need to hit the hay.
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>no revenge match

Anyone here playing on 5bar only? I've tried to do that once, but couldnt find anyone for a while. The 3 bar standard in addition to horrible reaction times from me are killing my juggles and defense.
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>win 2 sets
>almost lose last set
>rage art
>winquit

is there a better feeling?
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>>182245979
this guy doesn't belong in green anyway
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>he is only playing videogames
Train your mind and body to get a high rank.
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>>182246130
>implying tekken isnt my pwo to get pissed off and go lift
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>>182245979
A Kazumi hit me with that triple flying kick launcher the other day and I actually got really fucking mad because she literally hops from across the screen and I had no idea that move even existed.
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>>182245979
I think you've played my Kazumi senpai.
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>>182246023
Yes I do.
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>>182246130

>Using an Eddy and Chloe player as an example.

Big mistake, friendo.
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>>182246281
it only work once though
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I JUST LANDED 2 DEMPSEY ROLLS IN A MATCH. THERE IS STILL OXYGEN IN MY MUSCLES. YAMATO DAMASHII!!!!!!
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>>182246330
stop whiffing shit for no reason
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>>182236317
what if I'm brawler with tons of game knowledge but my execution is just dogshit
>tfw too shit at WGF's to whiff punish so my opponents can do whatever they want
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>>182246312

Think ive only played one kazumi in the past 2 hours, nice comeback. I dont know what it is, but even on the 3hit low, I know its coming but I can't block the 3rd hit. Either doing it wrong or its the 3 bar games.
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>>182246707
are you sure her 3-hit low isn't a NC? because i also cannot block the 3rd hit
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>>182246781
a lot of people blocked my third hit from that string

then they beat me up
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>>182246781

the bots in practice block the 3rd

its definitely blockable
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>>182246458
KID, YOUR BODY CAN'T TAKE THAT! YOU CAN'T USE THE DEMPSEY ROLL ANY MORE, UNLESS YOU MUST USE THE DEMPSEY ROLL!
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Since when can you request infinite revenge matches in ranked?!
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>>182242293
i don't know about all that but you should see the animation when nina counters it, quite lewd
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>>182246707
If you block the 2nd low you can low parry the 3rd one
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>>182246954
srsly tho the feeling of seeing their highs whiff above your head and hitting 1+2 for the kill is unbeatable. 4TH DIMENSIONAL DEMPSEY ROLL!!!!!!!!!
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>>182246984
last patch for ps4 and xb1
still nothing for steam yet
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>>182245820
PSN: mymormonuncle

Discord: Takeshi's Challenge#2972

looking forward to the Kazumi mirrors my guy
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How do I calm my tits down when playing? I get combo'd once and I automatically start button mashing out of frustration
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>>182218830
I feel something being exorcised
In my pants
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can do wgf but can't ewgf, what do lads

also learning devil jin is hell, someone motivate me, i wanna go back to claudio
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FUCK KING
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>>182247361
remember its just a game, play to improve, not to win
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>>182247781
Then go back to Claudio. Play what you enjoy. Fighting games are a struggle already. If on top of it, you try to play someone you don't enjoy, you'll just quit.
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>>182247786
JUST TECH
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>>182247786
I bet you would love to, furfag.
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>>182247967
nah, i know i won't quit this game, i love it too much, i also long for the satisfaction to play a hard character
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>>182248313
just play kazuya
he's a tough character but he's not autistic like djin
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Should I main Hwo or Xiaoyu?
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>>182248521
you should main a gun and shoot yourself
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>>182248573
I'll main that gun and shoot your bitch ass
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How do I fight King?
I constantly have to worry about dumb hopkicks, ch crumples, stagger kicks, wakeup lows into big damage and throws, I have no idea when to press buttons
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>>182248752
not my bitch ass, i just polished it!
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>everyone dodges me when I play King
>torrent of rage mail when I play Feng or Steve
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>>182248521
>which fag character should I pick, /tekgen/?
>w-why won't anyone play with me in ranked, /t-tekgen/?
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>>182248891
U get hatemail playing Steve? I have gotten one hatemail all the way til warrior saying I'm a spammer.
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>>182248923
>fag character
Opinion discarded. I get matches just fine you whiner
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>>182248972
Is it a PS4 thing? I haven't received a single message on Steam.
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>>182248891
>torrent of rage mail when I play Feng or Steve
my nigga. I love those characters
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>>182248802

>I have no idea when to press buttons

You can press a button after anything except a jab, chest bump or his running exploder. King has very few strings that are + on block.

Obviously don't hit buttons when he's just finished hitting you. Block first and keep your finger ready to hit 1 in case he tries to GS you.
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>>182249143
on steam you have to add the person as a friend to send messages
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>>182249143
what>>182249290 said

it has to be someone uber butthurt to send you a friend or group request on steam. I almost miss GFWL that Dark Souls 1 used. I have only gotten one message on steam and it was a friend request from a Bear player and they put "gg good King player" on my steam profile. He was a cool dude.
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>>182249290
You can also comment on their profile without befriending them, unless it's set to private.
But if someone was mad enough to send a hatemail then they would have cared enough to hit that invite button at least.
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>>182248802
>stagger kicks
any King who actually uses these in any situation that isn't a wall stun combo is an idiot asking to be launched
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>>182249605
Yeah but I'm a scrub so I actually get his by the mid followup.
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>>182248891
I've only been playing Feng since release and i've got nothing at all
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>Bryan player starts losing
>resorts to snake edge spam
Every single time lmao
Get hopkicked you dumb faggot
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>>182249767
>chloe starts losing
>starts mashing that low mid loop
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what's the best damage after hitting heihachi's ragedrive after a corkscrew? just d/b2?
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>>182249767
literally me

not my fault people can't block low even if they're better than me
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>>182249456
I once had a Kat player friend request me after a ranked set just to call me a masher who should go back to street fighter.

I think they were upset because I kept interrupting their u/f+4,4,4,4 string with my 10f punish string that looks like something a masher would do. Fun times.
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>>182245979

Just noticed this comment, and upon review, I've used one grab 3 times in the first round, then 2 more in the remaining 4 rounds ( 1 of which you can see in the webm ).
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I can't even do the goddamn inputs while outside of practice mode. Even in fucking treasure battle. I am really starting to get pissed off here
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>>182245979
jeez and people complain about alisa, i would have no idea if i ever actually get to fight a djin
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>>182248508
too many kazuya's online, and i have only seen one djin in 127 hours i had the game

i wanna be unique, maybe i am the autistic one
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>>182243809
>>
>tfw too stupid to play Lee properly

I just wanna play him, he's so goddamn perfect but I'm actually retarded and can't handle his inputs and timing.
Is there a worse feeling than having to ignore a character you really admire because you're a retarded piece of shit I hate myself.
>>
Who are this general's best Tekken players?
>>
Recommend me a character that is not Jin if I love Feng
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>>182250598
just keep playing him and practicing
if everyone took the easy road we'd all be playing paul
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are there any non-mishima characters similar to kazuya in playstyle?
been playing kazuya since release and while i love him and he'll remain my main i'd like to try someone with a similar playstyle but doesnt require the same execution at all times.
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>>182215192

Pls explain. People complain about King a lot in this general and I don't understand why. King seems honst as fuck to me. Like:

Pros:
Usable grab game
Good oki after Running Power Bomb
Can convert off of a lot of moves
f+4 is the ultimate "keep them honest" move
Good carry on pretty much anything
Floor breaks make him a monster

Cons:
Meh frames
Weak damage unless you're a fucking robot
Meh low game
Hopknee has no range
Poor wall damage

He's good but I don't see what's frustrating about him, not like Kat's LOL MASH 4 or Drag's obtuse throw game or Josie's stance that makes it seem like she never stops hitting buttons.
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>>182250651
I've been practicing Lee for almost a week now and I haven't improved one bit, maybe my timing has improved a little bit but I just don't feel like I'm ever gonna reach the point where I'm able to confidently land combos and put up a good fight with him.
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>>182250861
>almost a week
wow it's fucking nothing
maybe fighting games aren't for you, champ
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>>182250762
>Kat's LOL MASH 4 or Drag's obtuse throw game or Josie's stance
None of these are issues compared to the honest jaguar man of ten thousand moves
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>trying to promo to Fighter
>keep getting gatekept by competent players using characters I have 0 experience against

Already happened with Leo, Claudio, and Gigas. Next one is going to be a Bob or Eliza, I just know it.
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>>182250598
what i do is I pick up someone else that you like that is a bit easier to play, and practice the harder character on the side. alternatively do babycombos in matches while practicing the hard stuff in trainingmode.
You'll get better at the game while not being bogged down by execution requirements.
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>>182250912
I was able to learn Dragunov and Asuka in 2 days each and use them in ranked without any problems, I had plenty of good fights with them, but the moment I touch Lee it's like my reaction speed and IQ take a hike.
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can any jack players help me out with my neutral? i'm not sure if i should be trying to poke at my opponent or just blocking and waiting for them to do something unsafe
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>>182249909
Katarina players should be gassed. they have no right to complain about any other character.
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>>182250762
How do you think King is not frustrating but still think Kash 4 mash and Josie stance are frustrating?
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>>182244298
Fuck memorizing this shit. I'm just dodging King as soon as I see him picked. And kicking fuckers out of my tournaments that use him
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>>182250925
>>182251280

I honestly don't think they're frustrating but I can see how people unfamiliar with the characters would; I initually found Josie infuriating until I learned her. But I don't understand what the problem with King is. Could you elaborate for my simple mind?
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>>182251280

King is honest. People on here may not think that, but he is.

He has no 50/50 strings, he has virtually nothing that gives him + frames on block. He can't spam anything.

He's all pokes, throws and movement. If he's cheesing you out, it just means that you can't throw break for shit and would have been fucked up by any character in previous Tekken games.
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I 100% know my next match is a promotion

The nerves are killing me
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>>182250643
leo
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>>182251460
>>182251545
I only replied to one post. What I (>>182251280)
meant was that if you're competent enough to understand why King isn't frustrating then you shouldn't find those two things frustrating either.
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>>182251570
YOU CAN DO IT
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>>182251724

Oh, okay. I still don't understand what people find frustrating though. Are they getting RDC'd?
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Mishimas
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Hahaaa, I'm in the green!
Suck it /vg/!
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>>182251210
You wanna poke and bait whiffs, with your long reach you wanna frustrate your opponent into making bad decisions and punish their whiffs with your monstrous d/f2, ff1 or ff1+2
mainly poke with 2, 1, it's safe on block, long range and the 2nd hit is a mid. if your opponent likes to mash you can do 2,1,2 which is an uninterruptable CH launcher but punishable on block.
f2 is a safe 10f good range poke that gives a free ff4 on CH, very annoying for the opponent
you have d4, d/b1(or FC d/b1) or debug to make them think twice about not protecting their knees
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the really need to fix Ling's hitbox
A character should just be immune to some of your bnb combos
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People need to just chill out about King. Every character has some level of bullshit to deal with.
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>>182252343
is this your first fighting game
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>>182252379
kys gay furry
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>>182251545
grapplers are never honest
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>>182252439
Gigas the most honest grappler
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I'm really scared to duck Hwoarangs shit
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>>182252393
No, and I never liked super small hitboxes in any game. Especially with a character like Ling who has no downsides anyway.
Literally just make her hitbox a few cm larger like every other girl so standard combos work on her.
Gigas loses out on 10 fucking damage because his optimal>>182252409
combo does not land on her or chloe.
It's not fair in the slightest and fuck you for defending it.
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>>182252439

After a certain level of play, King isn't really a grappler.
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>>182252742
Didn't mean to quote the stoner
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>>182238418
>out of the 6 or so dragunovs I've fought, 2 were ragequitters
unga
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>>182252742
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>>182251919

pls respond King haters
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is she dishonest or just good
>gets on the ground, hit high
>jumps, hits low
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>>182253107
she's both
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>>182253107
phoenix stance is fucking bullshit
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>>182252953
t. Ling main
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>>182253274
then play her your big baby. Jesus christ, nobody is forcing you to play shit like gigas
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>>182253274
STOP FUCKING CALLING HER LING

YOU DON'T CALL BRYAN "FURY"
YOU DON'T CALL PAUL "PHOENIX"
YOU DON'T CALL KING "TONY"

FUCKING STOP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>182253390
That's not the point moron
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I'm going to play Leo and adopt an ultra defensive playstyle!
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>>182253227
It really is not. Mids hit her when she tries a move and she can't block at all. Stop crying like a scrub.
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>>182253429
I'll call her what i want bitch
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>>182248313
>>182248508
>>182250279
djin is easier to play than kazuya though
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>>182253484
The point is you just lost to Xiaoyu and came here to cry about it
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Are there any /tekgen/ tourneys being planned right now?
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Who managed to go from silver to green undefeated?
I might do it

>>182253429
And yet people call Sergeï Dragunov, Dragunov
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>>182244170
As a Feng main, this is acceptable, but it's not top tier.
>opponent mashes a certain move all throughout the match, maybe a low or a sweep or just jab ape mashing
>repeatedly do as much of that move as you can after winning a round
The only way to end a round
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>>182253429
Marshall "LAW"
Craig "MARDUK"
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>>182253227

RD is better when you're not fighting shitters
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>>182245273
Precipice of fate
G-corp helipad day
Heat Haze Shadow
Abandoned Temple
Mishima dojo, kinda
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>>182253628
lmao what? I barely even fight her. You're missing the point that people have to change up their combos specifically for 1 character.
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>>182253815
yeah but it doesn't say ling
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>>182253429
>>182253815
Is Lei a surname or not? I have no idea how Chinese names work.
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>>182253429
Hold up is King actually named Tony
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>>182253970
Oh but it did.
Now kindly fuck off.
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>>182254068
I like how you're the first one to point that out
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>>182249679
Literally same here
Did get about 3 people ragequitting after first round when I shouldered them to death near a wall
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>>182253429
>Tony

wew lad really
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CURSE MY IMAGINATION I CANT GET COOL LOOKING CUSTOMS
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>>182253429
About that, is Feng his name or is it Wei?
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Xiaoyu is actually quite difficult to play desu
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when should I use horbital heel? it's so slow to use for pressure and too short to use in neutral
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>>182254323
yeah she seems pretty complicated for a new player but that doesn't really make her any less broken
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>>182244170
I always do his 1+3+4 taunt when I win, shit's fun
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>>182254282
Tekken 7 has shit customization so be glad you don't ave imagination cockblocked by haradas incompetence.
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>>182254429
Many other characters are 'broken' in their own way. She clearly isn't that oppressive at low or high levels of play.
I don't think anyone in this game can really be considered overpowered
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Once you hit the 100 hour mark of the EWGF vortex your neurons have subtly begun to change. By hour 200 you know nothing but EWGF.

Other players simply cannot comprehend the enlightenment that comes with mastering a Mishima. It is a state of pure zen that is akin to speaking with God. Playing another character is dirtying yourself and must be cleansed be performing a ritual in involving hundreds of CH DF2 PEWGF loops.
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>fight some guy in a bryan mirror
>he wins 3-2 and teabags
>accepts the runback
>demolish him 3-0
>game won't let me close it out with another match
this system sucks
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>>182254282
Have you tried using a t-shirt?
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>>182254556
Hey tmm
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>>182254597
>pc
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>>182254729
kys sonygger
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>>182254729
>pee ass turd
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>lowhighs steve custom

ban that shit
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>>182254786
Lmao
Why do you spergs always assume everyone is a crazed fanatic
I have a ps4. That is all. I don't worship it, or post NEVER EVER all day like a preteen. Cool it dude
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>>182252082
this guy annoys the fuck out of me.
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Is this year's 1200 the most entrants Tekken has ever had?
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I don't fucking get Bryan
What even is this character
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>>182255001
strong, slow pokes
high damage
doesn't have a hopkick
insane recovery on whiff
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>>182255001
Offensive character that fishes for counterhits
Defensive monster that fucks u up for mistakes
Threatening 50/50s with low soccer kick and 3+4/orbital
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>>182254941
>I-I am totally not a fanatic
>spergs out when the glory of sony is not nuthugged
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>>182254016
>>182254283
The Chinese characters use Family Given and the Japanese characters use Given Family in Tekken, so their first names are Wulong, Wei, Xiaoyu, and Chaolan.
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>>182254556

Legendary post right here.
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I am the Grape Warrior
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>>182255248
so then why is Ling the only one who has her name reserved in-game?
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>>182255343
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>>182254556
카즈야 플레이!
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>stuck at maurader
>keep losing promo matches vs mauraders
>85% of my matches are versus people 2 ranks away
>if it's not a promo match vs a marauder they win quit or lose quit every time

I want out of this fucking rank dammit
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>>182255483
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>>182255507
stop losing and you will get out :^)
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What the fuck is wrong with my game

Twice when someone beats me the game just freezes during the victory pose
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>>182255173
Epic
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>>182254989
Yes, and by a pretty good margin.
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>>182254556
I know this feeling, but I like Jin's electric punch the best.
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I hope Jin likes it
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>>182255343
>>182255752
Please stop.
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>>182255747
how do i get better at remembering all the meme strings in this damn game
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every character should have an EWGF
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>>182255405
Maybe 'cause she's a filthy expat. You'd have to ask Harada or Murray for a real explanation.
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Anybody else not like tasty Steve and Mark man doing commentary? I'd much rather have rip and aris for Evo
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>cant chain butterfly
>cant SS1 cancel consistently
>cant even evil mist when I want to
why am I even playing Nina?
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>>182256035
Aris is commentating though
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>>182248891
Got the game two/three days ago and I've been playing Eddy, only played 10 or so matches online so far and most were rematches because people dodge me
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>>182255817
Make me
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>>182256035
i dont like tasty steve at all
he just repeats the same shit over and over again
>GET OFF OF ME
>LETS GO
>DO IT AGEEN
markman's allright, i prefer rip or aris though.
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>>182256285
>>182255752
>>182255343

>>182254282
Kek. You should just stick to the defaults
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>>182255858
Practice, patience, and trying to have fun so you don't get frustrated enough to give up. The best way for me to learn is to see things happen personally, so I like to get hit by things compared to going down the movelist and trying to visually remember everything one by one.

I feel it might be best to see what kind of moves/strings people use in real matches instead of remembering them in practice mode. Treating actual fights as practice will help you in the long run, I think.
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>>182256035
>>182256376
>not liking tasty steve

white bois get out
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>>182256440
thanks, i tend to get easily frustrated when i get dumped on. just gotta take it slow.
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>>182251545
>King has no 50/50s

Heh
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>>182246707
I didn't play you today, I played you like last week, assuming you are the Kazumi in the webm.
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>>182256562
nice list of 50/50s there
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Is there a difference between kazuyas df4 and ws4 for wall cambos?
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>>182256553
Good. Please keep trying your best.
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>>182256691
i believe ws4 does more damage, and since you can do it out of a crouchdash you can cover more distance so if you're far from the wall when the splat happens you can get to the wall faster
not sure if they have different hitstun/juggle height
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It's really disappointing how bad the net code is.
I just went back to treasure battle for a bit and the difference is huge. Even with 5 bars it's not really that smooth
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>>182256407
Thats not me
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>>182256673
One of his basic combos ends in a high or low throw you retard
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I just really don't get Josie and hate playing her stupid little guessing game
every single fucking string ends in a tossup
and whenever you do want to duck they always cancel into her d/f+2
infuriating piece of shit character
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>>182256763
Keep it up xiao you'll get into Jin's pants someday
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>>182257284
sidestep
duck and punish the start of her string (the part that is all high) instead of blocking and having to guess
KBD and whiff punish
overwhelm her with offense and bait out the panic butterfly edge
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>>182257153
a high or low throw? that doesn't matter when you can break throws on reaction
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>>182257284
>every single fucking string ends in a tossup
Do you mean her 4 attacks/strings into switch stance? Sure I guess that's technically a tossup, but just stand block. If she chooses the low option shes -2 on hit.

>and whenever you do want to duck they always cancel into her d/f+2
So she ends a string early to do a different attack? That's just tekken. Block and punish

>infuriating piece of shit character
Just learn her for a day or two and you'll see the holes in her game.
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>>182257284
You don't even really need to duck. Her less aren't powerful. A punish will do more to her
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>>182256646

ah its fine, bound to run into other /tekgen/ players eventually
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how many frames is the tech window for throws? in practice mode it feels really fucking long, after you see the pink stuff you have almost a full second to hit the break.

online though i see the pink shit, press the break instantly and 60% of the time i still get tossed. do i just suck?
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bryan's frame data says that his d1+2 into the low is positive on block
but that can't be right, can it?
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>>182257604
she has 3 hit strings
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>>182257708
test it in training mode
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>>182257832
I'm at work
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>>182257727
Yes she does. Which ones are you referring to that end up in a tossup?
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>>182229943
I thought DILF was Dad I'd like to fuck
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>>182257905
im telling ur boss
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>>182257604
That's pretty silly to say just block, because her lows are too fast to be read and her moves launch out of stances you're always going to take damage no matter what. She has no flaws or holes in her gameplay, especially since her moves track exceptionally well and even her slowest moves are ridiculously fast and can't be punished normally.
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>>182257553
You asked for 50/50s so I gave you an obvious one. Don't pretend there aren't others. It only makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about
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>>182257997
I'm the boss
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>>182257981
all of them
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>>182258021
what you gave is not a 50/50
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>>182258000
>>182258052
is this the josie smear campaign or something?
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Mishima Girls tier in terms of altruism, loyalty, and love towards their Mishima love interest.

Jun = Alisa > Kazumi > Xiaoyu > Hwoarang > Asuka
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>>182258326
>kazumi
>loyalty
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>>182257708
it's bryan of course it's +
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>>182258326
Hwoarang best gril
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>>182258306
Josie is an annoying piece of garbage to fight against because there is no intelligent way to counter her playstyle, just hope you get lucky.

Bruce was broken in T6 and tag 2, and they made Josie even worse and faster.
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how the hell do i drag the tekken frame overlay to another screen
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x-locaso-xx
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>>182258326
That's not fair because Jin and Asuka didn't really met
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>>182258126
d/f 4,3,4 vs d/f 4,3,d4
Also his throw strings, for example the string that leads into rdc, which have different breaks depending on which throw comes next, and you have absolutely no visual cue to know the correct one.

Please stop
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Guy ragequitted my Promotion away yesterday

NOT THIS TIME

We doin it lads
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>>182258836
d/f+4,3 is a low high string
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>>182258753
If they ever take Asuka seriously, the only thing that can actually make her a serious character is becoming a relevant person to Jin who she is tsundere for.
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holy shit, that frame data overlay is so useful
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>>182259360
>If they ever take Asuka seriously

Too late for that. It's just wacky hijinks with Lili for her.
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Should I play Kazumi or Lucky Chloe?
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In T7 what ranks roughly correspond to "I can juggle but I have no idea what I'm doing otherwise"?
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>>182259689
Blues
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>>182259689
Low greens usually
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>>182256376
His Tekken commentary is insanely dumb, he sounds completely different when doing GG or SF. Not much to commentate in pro level Tekken "oh, nice 1, 1", "oh golly you see that d/f1" "sheeit, that d4 was too sick, he never saw it coming"
Dont blame Steve.
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>>182259605
If they can suddenly make Heihachi's wife relevant after only being hinted at twice in canon, it's too arrogant of you to say Asuka won't ever meet Jin. At least wait before tekken 8 to claim anything.
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>>182259058
gj my dude
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>>182259803
i like spooky, aris, rip, markman on tekken commentary.
Jiyuna did okay too this weekend at REV considering he doesnt have much experience commentating tekken
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>>182258743
Dude was concentrating so hard, he accidentally pulled the plug.
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Josie makes me realize that Philippines is just a tanned Japan.
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>>182259689
Blue
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>>182259649
GIGAS
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>>182259791
I dont think you can even get out of blues by just spamming and pulling off a few combos.
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>>182257153

Do you mean his wall combo? That's a 1 or 2 break, not a high or low

I hope to god you don't mean 1, 2 grab shit
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>>182260286
pretty sure he means 1,2,1 2+4 or whatever that shit is
like those strings matter
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>>182260279
Not unless you're Paul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ZYPqTsJ_A
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>>182258306
you asked me what strings, and pretty much all of her main strings end in a 50/50
I even just went in practice mode to double-check
her 1,2 goes into a 50/50
1,2 also jails btw
she's got a 50/50 on her 2 strings
her d/f+1 is absolutely cancer with a low or mid mixup
her b+4 is 50/50
Just in general she's annoying
The advice to "just block high" is absolutely retarded because the lows give her + frames and so she'll just do it again or start with d/f+1 which is a mid

this isn't even factoring in that completely broken crouch dash she has which is a tossup between a full screen mid launcher or the full screen low. The low even gives a launch on CH.
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>>182260279
You can if you also dodgescum your way in with convenient matchups
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>>182260274
I already play him.
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>>182257686

Lag makes the visable window much shorter
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stick to Alisa or move on to Leo?
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hey /tekgen/

I missed the preorder bonus and I need a new game to play. Should I buy this game now or wait until next year's complete edition? If now deluxe or normal?
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>>182260696
Now & normal.
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>>182260457
t. kyu josie
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>>182260696
the preorder bonus is just a shitty waifufag character nobody plays
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>>182260384

Holy fuck just break the throw
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>>182258743
Rest in peace
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>>182260751
>implying I would ever touch that filth of a character outside of practice mode
I have some self respect
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>>182260746
forgot to mention gamesplanet has deluxe on sale for $65 so really that's only $15 more for the $25 season pass...

>>182260773
awesome i feel like I don't miss out then
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>>182260773

Yeah but she's weird and if you don't know her matchup she's going to shit on you

Release her, Harada
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>>182260773
I love dressing her up tho
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>>182260843
STOP PLAYING RANKED I WANT TO RANK UP
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>>182261187
thats cuz ur a fag son
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Tekken is so weird when I compare it to fighters like Street Fighter

Blue and green ranks are low ranks in Tekken, but if you compare them to the ranks in Street fighter (Silver and Gold?) the people in Tekken can do way more execution heavy stuff than SF

In SF Silver, people can barely do combos and mash all day, while in Tekkens blue there are some mashers, but a lot of people can also play neutral and do multiple juggle combos
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>>182261305
tekken is a high iq game and all the sf kiddies know to stay in their ghettos
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Does our girl (boy) queen crimson play offline?
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>>182261305
Most people in tekken have past experience.
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>>182261249
delet
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>>182261305
Tekken needs more "low" ranks desu, there are way too many pro ranks that get barely played
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>>182261551
How would that even work, if they added a new tier between light blue and green it'd just become the new green.
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>>182261551
>>182261656
just make it so you don't get promo'd out of a kyu rank with a single win
make it 2 or 3
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>>182258326
>kazumi
>tries to kill her son and husband
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>>182261656
They could just broaden blues and greens desu
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>>182262219
she tried to kill kazuya?
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>>182262239
So then high blue becomes the new green. There ranking system is no different going within tiers or between.
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>>182262239
Honestly, there should be less ranks, not more.
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I'm happy with tekkens ranking system
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How can I abuse force crouch on block moves?
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>>182263180
when the enemy is crouching after a move, they can only sidestep in one direction and do ws/fc moves
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>>182260457
Hey I'm glad you took it to training, that's cool with me.

If you change it up to "main strings" instead of "all strings," there are a lot of 50/50s. HOWEVER,
>The advice to "just block high" is absolutely retarded because the lows give her + frames
The lows off of her 1 and 2 strings put her -5 on HIT. If she proves to finish the string then the only option afterwards is a high.

>her d/f+1 is absolutely cancer with a low or mid mixup
The low on d/f+1 is 0 as well.

>her b+4 is 50/50
Interrupt with your fastest move after b+4,3, which is -6 on its own.

>this isn't even factoring in that completely broken crouch dash she has which is a tossup between a full screen mid launcher or the full screen low. The low even gives a launch on CH.
This is pretty good, but the Josie's I've fought make it seem pretty predictable. I also don't think the low launches on CH, just a followup.

She has things that are annoying, like every other character, but I don't think she's scum.
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When are they releasing kunimitsu?
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>>182263826
in tag 3
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Bryan
Dragunov
Law
King

Bryan
Dragunov
Law
King

Bryan
Dragunov
Law
King

Bryan
Dragunov
Law
King

That's all I see
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Any word on if the PS4's input lag will ever get fixed?
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>>182264049
Add some Hwoarang and that trash anime girl and yeah
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>>182263997
Don't say that
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>>182264160
>tits
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>>182264303
WE
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>>182264362
Wrong meme, retard
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>>182264362
WUZ
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leave Kazuya to me
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>>182264362
Calm down
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How come I can't get Alisa's d+3, 1 to hit after combos
am I missing something
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>>182264303
Black is right.
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>>182264487
A brain
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>>182264049
I don't see many Laws at all which is weird because he was my most common matchup in Tag 2. Bryan, King and Drag are definitely my top 3 though.
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>>182264487
It will connect only if the enemy is in specific distance and you hit him in correct moment.
You have to modify your pre-screw combo for it to work, and it won't work on every combo though. It's a case-to-case situation.
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>>182264549
what other well known skin tight sci-fi suits are there?
Gonna try making black Asuka and Rei next.
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>>182214836
Meanwhile rip is worth $150 lmfao.. Yeah these seem really legit. Make Aris worth 1000 bucks while you are at it.
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Why are all my promotion matches on Shaheen's stage
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>>182264938
>I feel like a hundred bucks, Lord Chatroom.
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>>182264778
Oh alright
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>>182264869
Trinity from Matrix?
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Tfw playing Bryan deathmatching a king atm
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>>182262570

Asked akuma to
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>>182265136
oh right
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>>182264487
Try going for a 5 hit combo if your using that ender. It should throw the opponent far enough for it to land. That 5 hit doesn't include the launcher btw.
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>>182265024
Need anything specific?
I suspect that you have problems with ws2 combo.
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>>182212827
How hard is it to make an on disk playable character available for purchase what the fuck
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>tfw 70 wins expert
>every other expert is 15 wins
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At the rate that I am losing I am bound to eventually break my stick out of frustration

Anyone care to train me? I play on PC
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I shamelessly reset my profile

And it feels good
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>>182265771
How can you reset it?
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>>182265771
lol? 62% isn't that bad
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>>182265276
yeah it's that one sometimes it hits sometimes it doesn't
im doing ws2, fly 3, ws1,2 , d+4,1+2 , d+3,1
does 68 dmg when it hits
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>>182264989
Goddamn that's a nice ass
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it's so hard to play defensively in this game man
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Just learned Jack today and he is hard as fuck. Never mind fighting on a stage without walls, his launchers are abysmal. How do I Jack?
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>>182266089
db1
debugger
KBD
df2
ff1
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>>182264989
because shaheen has no stage
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>>182265946
It was at 31%

>>182265942
Delete your save file, you'll lose your offline progress, money and customization.
When I tried to use the old customization file the game would just crash before a fight
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>>182266159
Thats what I'm doing minus the KBD part
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Was pc a mistake?
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>>182266459
You certainly were.
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>>182265064
Would be a good fit for Nina if they ever put in her story mode outfit.
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>>182265975
I think this one is some sort of frame perfect input, since I wasn't getting it 100% of the time as well.
I'm using ws2, fly 3, ws1,2 , 2,4~f~ , d+3,1
It's 67 dmg but much more consistent, at least for me.
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>>182266208
so your online ranks stay the same?
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>>182266089
>his launchers are abysmal
what are you smoking?
d/f2 is one of the best whiffpunishers in the game
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>>182266089
Jack is an opportunist. He does a lot of damage, but you need to be good at making people feel like they want to duck. One of the most fun ways of launching people is forcing them to duck by ducking yourself for a few seconds, then doing a wr 1. It's really fun because you know you outsmarted them.

Jack has a lot of mixup options in the crouched position, so you can easily force them to guess. I think d 1+2, one of his biggest launchers, avoids highs but has a slow start up. If you're good at guessing, it might be useful for you too.
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why do i keep thinking people will stop going for launching lows even after i punish them for it multiple times
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>>182266675
Cool I'll try this one thanks
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>>182266927
Exactly what I need. Thanks. I'm not really into defensive characters but I like Jack's playstyle.
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>>182267089
If it hits it's smart.
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>>182266927
>>182266089

Oh i forgot to mention this

>>182266836
His d f2 is quick and has a nice reach. You can easily catch people with it.
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>>182267089
Because it's how they got all their other wins. If they keep doing it you'll get hit eventually!

>mfw one lands because I get crushed and I justify them continuing to do them
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>go against oscar nigger
>does a block string
>puts me at crouched state
>instantly does a launcher
>she can do this how ever many times she wants
>it combos if you don't block it and you can't punish it if you are blocking it
fuck this broken nigger character
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>Leo mains think they are working hard for their wins

lmao...
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>>182267089
People turn their brains off when they play Tekken. I hit a guy at least 8 times in one game with the second hit of Giga's ff3,2
Every single time he ate the second hit. Didn't duck, didn't block, just fucking started mashing right after he blocked the kick.
This was yellow ranks
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>>182264049

I'm a King main and I've only ever fought one other King online. We have three local King mains though. I see lots of Drag, never fought a single Bryan.

I do wonder if matchmaking avoids mirror matches
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>>182267382
Honestly it's just unfamiliarity. Gigas is still very gimmicky in these stages
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>>182266836
>>182267192
So I just have to find a whiff and punish it with this? I think I know now why I'm losing. Whenever I try this, it constantly gets blocked and punishes me.
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Should I learn Devil Jin? Seems like everyones running into Drags who I main rn
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>>182267612

Yeah I get shit in by Gigas because I have no idea what the fuck he's doing. I oughta learn the matchup
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>>182267716
ff1+2 is also a good whiff punisher from a longer distance.
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>>182267716
you use your reach to poke and frustrate your opponent into making mistakes, then when they make a big whiff cause you sidestep or when they get too antsy and go for a big risk you get to murder them, especially if you get a wallsplat.
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Should I give up on Xiaoyu
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I swear to fucking god I am teching all these throws
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>>182267959

yes
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>>182267839
Yeah I forgot about that too.

>>182267879
What are some good poke moves? For some reason Jack's moves are easy to wall carry compared to let's say Dragunov where I have to work for it.
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>>182267716
Don't throw out df 2 randomly, it's not safe. Only use it to punish whiffs or if you can guess a duck. You can also use ff 2, but you can easily get hit since it's not instant. Oh, and one of his really long reaching launchers are his ss 1.

>>182267839
This is also a good option. You can continue it into a low too, though both are unsafe when blocked.
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>>182266813
No it doesn't you to start from kyu again
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Asuka is broken as fuck
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God I love playing Bryan

Just beat the some FAGGOT Xiaoyu player and got to beat the shit out of her after the game then hit him with the win quit
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>>182268228
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>>182268050
2, 1
f2
ff1
d4
d/b1
d/f1
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>>182268228
>>182267306
You guys suck. Asuka isn't good enough to be broken.

>Worst 10i punish in the game

>Can't get in

>Ok damage

You must be some button pressing mouth breather to get destroyed by her
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>>182268251
This site is 18+ kiddo
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>>182268375
I want to land over Asuka's ass
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>>182268375
>you will never devour that ass
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>>182268050
>>182268368
In addition to this:

FC db 1 (basically db 1 but very useful as a FC mixup. It also comes out faster than the normal db 1.)
df 1 (mid)
f 1,2
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>>182267306
Hopkick.
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>>182268375
>pull off 1 10 frame string
>if you block it, guaranteed hop kick to launch opponent into the air for free, Opponent can't punish it and it's unreactable unless you know 1000% he's going to do it
>leads into heavy damage and wall carry for more
>if not blocked, knocks down and guaranteed mixup
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>>182268375
Asuka flowchart:
>b+3
>do it again
>do it again
>keep doing it
>oh i got him
>combo
>spam d/b+4 until they get up
>repeat
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>>182268375
This guy gets it.
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>>182268368
>>182268809
Never thought you guys would help. I guess Jack is not a hated character here. Thanks a lot.
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>>182268928
what string
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>>182268968
Some communities despise him but people here are more anti-waifu than anti-jack for some reason.
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>>182268968
jack is my sub char
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>>182269075
>for some reason.
Because one is just a character and the other is autism
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Why do Josie players never stop pressing buttons?
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>>182269170
why would she?

http://rbnorway.org/josie-t7-frames/
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>>182269170
Because ch and + on block
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>>182269018
don't know
some faggot pulled it off on me
wasn't pressing a button and didn't even touch my stick
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>>182269286
>>182269286
>>182269286
New Thread
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>>182269170
unga overdose
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>>182269339
your fault for using neutral guard, then
shitter
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>>182268968
Jack is based.
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>>182268968
People who hate characters are just ignorant players. I'd advise not to listen to them, they usually have no idea what they're talking about. Consider all characters without negativity or it'll be harder for you to learn.
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>>182265761
P-please respond. I don't think my stick can survive much longer
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>>182269168
Hating a fighting character because of waifufags is just as, if not even more autistic.
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>>182258214
mama mia
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