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= NEWS =
>1.03 patch notes
http://tekkengamer.com/2017/07/04/ps4-tekken-7-patch-ver-1-03-launched-japan-regions-soon-follow/
>Ultimate Tekken Bowl trailer
https://youtu.be/-BaJENh1Irs [Embed]
= BASIC INFORMATION =
>Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
>Fergus' character overviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/preview
>Frame data for every character
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
>Top 15 moves for all characters
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
>T7 Character Information Compilation
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q
= TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS =
>How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
>Korean Backdash Cancel (KBD)
https://youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94
>Button Buffering
https://youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8
>How to get off the ground
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
>Oki/Tech Trap
https://youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0
>Throw Breaking
https://youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI
>Wavedash
https://youtu.be/xMtFCy8LreM
>Wavedash/Backdash on pad
https://youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU
>Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
more like Lucifer general
first for new jack
GET OFF OF ME
Uh uh uh hellsweep
Look at this range though
DEEEEEBUUUG
Did you hear the drum beat? dududududu that was GOD LIKE
DO IT AGAIN
GET OFF OF ME LADY
Oh he did it again
LOOK AT THE DAMAGE THOUGH GOD DAMMIT
>>182136176
cute
cool
fun
respectable
/ourgirl/ saving us from Jack.
>>182136240
you might actually be the first person I filter and I didn't even filter voidere
>>182136240
Post it again!!!
Feng Wei is the most powerful fighter in the Tekken universe
Mishima's don't count, they cheat.
>>182136261
he's good but he's got nothing on old yipes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXWOz7N9IRg#t=0m12s
Jack lost...
Time for new main
>>182136316
old fart heihachi is stronger and is a real wholesome human too
First time an opponent has ragequit on me and it was a Kazumi. It was a balanced fight too, he had every opportunity to best me but I just did that little bit better.
Are they going all the way to finals today?
For anyone inspired by the Kazumi play we're seeing, there's a good chunk of info about her in the /tekgen/ character dump https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q/edit#heading=h.g8dwcptfubyi
>>182136335
she's actually not too different from Jack, just morehonest
Kazumi mirror in losers semis inc.
but.. no..
tekgen told me...
they told me Kazumi was bad... she did no dmg...
what's happening bros...
time to hate kazumi
>>182136426
Heihachi has unexplained lightning god powers
Nice to see Drag and Jack getting BTFO.
>>182136306
Congrats
Nobi got outplayed. Definitely picking up Kazumi back again.
BATTLE OF THE GODS NEXT
>Knee vs JDCR
>>182136306
>>182136313
>Giving them (you)s
>>182136474
she's actually been being explored in Japan for a second, Saint lost to a Kazumi about a month ago.
she's legit, just hard because she rewards good Tekken fundamentals.
It's fucking 4 am. What am I doing with my life?
where the faggot that cried Kazumi is unplayable past scrub ranks
I hope that this won't be a blowout for either of them
>kazumi is honest
>>182136568
kill yaself normie
that might be the first time take has beaten nobi in a set. all it took was an easy character apparently.
>>182136581
Name ONE(1) dishonest act committed by a Kazumi player in the entire event
>>182136487
Motherfucker also can't seem to land a iWR2 today to save his life.lost me $5
Stream on life support again
>>182136569
i seem to recall it was the same guy who gets triggered by the namefag
>>182135552
speaking of those relationship properties
I bet Kazumi will come back for the next Tekken after all this.
>>182136602
Nobi straight up got outplayed. Kazumi is in no way, shape, or form, an easy character.
>>182136638
Using animals to fight is not honest.
Knee isnt playing Bryan anymore?
if you're into Jack you can go Kazumi and still play normals just with lessstretchy gimmicks
>>182136639
Damn. I'm sorry for your loss.
>>182136709
He has Feng, DJ and Bryan.
He'll hulk out and pick one of the latter if his Feng doesn't cut it
jdcr is choking
If Knee wins every shitter is going to pick up Feng
Stay away from my character
>>182136820
gotta do like small bill bets with your friends for cool tournaments like this, right?i had Nobi to beat Saint and then lose to Knee in grand finals. I'd be out more like $20 if I didn't call Kazumi as the breakout character
>>182136678
infinitely easier than bryan. even knee switched from bryan. take did it. notably take is much more successful for switching. which is fine, some players need a basic character to really focus at a high level. like lowhigh going from law to shaheen, now look at him. tsubumi also used to be a bryan player, and he did really well today with shaheen.
>>182136886
at least they'll lose if they pick kazumi, same as Jack but they'll eat shit even harder because you can't bullshit as Kazumi.
not looking forward to the Feng influx though when Kneetakes the whole fucking thing
>>182136886
Don't worry, it just means you can show your superior Feng towards the shitters.
>>182136316
Nothin personnel, kid
what the fuck was that hopkick lmao
what the FIG
>>182136976
How can you bullshit as Jack?
>>182136978
I really suck at Mirror matches so its even worse
Seems like the simple BUNGA characters are top picks for tournaments
>>182136925or saint with jack?
I like Knee at high level playing the harder characters though.
>>182136474
>she did no dmg
That's true for her combos.
Max 66 without counter hit launcher and rage.
>>182137020
yeah i was being a little hyperbolic. i think that jack is a little cheesier than Kazumi because ol extending limbs but not by much.
there's a reason saint was the only jack in top 8.
Holy fucking shit Knee vs JDCR is something else.
>>182136261
Hu-uh-uh-uh hm hm -UH! and he DID IT!
LETS GO
Knee finally found his groove. Can't wait to see how he does at Evo now.
>>182137038
saint has been god-tier in tag 2 with bob and ganryu, winning big tournaments in korea with them.
Why does Only Practice suck at Tekken 7?
>>182137120
Nice fucking wallsplat
>>182137176
i don't know much about Tag 2, but I assume Bob/Ganryu was a more meta team?
Knee mercs JDCR, faces him again in grand finals. JDCR resets, Knee goes Devil Jin or Bryan and wastes him. Rematch at Evo.
>>182137240
dat ss iwr2
>>182137240
What's the trick for a iWR? Do you have to mash it out really fast or what?
>>182137285
bob was definitely a strong character (top tier or just outside of it), but a lot of people thought ganryu was mid tier or even a bit lower. saint changed all their minds. his bob was actually just his supportive character, his ganryu was winning him his games mainly.
the team wasn't popular much at all, especially since ganryu didn't have many strong partners besides bob, and most bryan players used bob/bryan and bob players used that too or bob/bruce or even bob/lars. ganryu players, the few that there were (saint included) kind of had to use bob/ganryu at a high level.
holy shit this is intense
>>182137426
oh then i super misunderstood what you were saying.
yeah that's why i like Saint watching saint in T7, he always finds his own characters and shows people up with just solid play.
steve talking about the music is NOT getting old for me.
Did they disable the playroom and that cyber one?
>>182137426
Is part of down to unfamiliarity when fighting against a character? I mean if a character like Ganryu is almost universaly considerd to be a shit character and no one uses him and no one has a chance to fight against him, and then in steps a competetive player who picks up this character and when their opponent is faced with them they go "Oh shit Ganryu? No one ever uses Ganryu ever. I don't know how to fight this fat fuck. I don't know what his strings look like or the frame data of his attacks."
>when they try to tell you tekken isn't hype
JDCR IS TOO STRONG
knee if you aren't in grand finals i can't be ok.
>dragunov
>kazumi
>jack
fucking yawn
>>182136261
>open stream
>markman and thirsty steve
>ears bleed from american "humor" and "knowledge"
>>182137650
Feng has never been someone people get excited about either.
>>182137650
lmao
The best set ever
who's the real kazumi
>>182137650
Kazumi is cool, the other two are just aids
>Kazumi Mirror
is this real life
>>182137741
t. kazumi main
KAZUMI MIRROR MATCH
A mirror wtf I hate kazumi now
I thought jdcr and knee made up. Still no hand shake?
mommy
>>182137741
i mean you're not wrong.
>>182137756
I don't main Kazumi but I love her
>Kazumi mirror
Is the ps4 version really THIS laggy?
Kazumi is just as lame as Jack. You're just being waifufags.
>>182136261
Even though Steve can be a bit repetitive, I'd take his commentary any day over those guys who stutter and have zero emotion.
>the entire final four is low damage, neutral-heavy characters
And people still complain about juggles.
if kazumi didn't shoot tigers i would not play as her
Kkokkoma got outplayed with his main.
mirror matches are boring to watch
>>182137864
>waifufags
Worse, they are obscure fags that want to be a special snowflake.
I like how jdcr has Saint and knee has chanel
>>182137925
>>182137864
You are talking about Josietwats
>>182137864
At this point I would have taken literally anything over Jack
>Wavedash into EWGF
How do I do it?
I watched all of the story and character episodes and I still have no idea why there is a tiger.
>>182137864
>flying tigers
>lame as jack
>all these timeouts
>everyone playing safe characters
Defense too strong?
>tiger form from no more heroes 2
oh that's why i don't mind kazumi
>>182137614
at a high level, it doesn't really apply. the only time it has applied imo is last year's evo, when fated retribution just dropped in arcades so the changes and in particular akuma were brand new and totally undiscovered.
i kinda undersold him, but ganryu wasn't bad. bad in tag 2 was like bears, dr bosconovich, alex, and roger. low tier was non-joke chars and even those guys were competitive. some people thought ganryu was around there, but i think more people put him mid tier.
also most people have played against ganryu in tekken 5, where he was pretty popular (and really strong), so they knew what he was about and how to play against him for the most part. his gimmicks and weird strings were there, but weren't his strong point. it applies only to a certain point. that's why there have never been any yoshi players doing super well in international, world class tournaments, although guys like kaneandtrench in europe do well with him in that region.
Choking on time outs is the worst feeling.
>>182138047
for the same reason there are bears
>>182138029
>tfw same deal
I can do regular electrics just fine but wave ones fuck me up
>>182137953
Give a real answer. Kazumi was never used much and never got high in tourneys. She also got no notable buffs in the home version so the only explanation left seems to be that the tournament system is the laggiest version, 'buffing' Kazumi in the process.
Does the audience seriously find TSteve jokes funny, what the fuck
>>182138124
Because both those players like and play Kazumi, and because she's good?
You just want to start shit
>>182138124
Saint pep talk didn't save him.
>>182136449
tiger time
>>182138061
>>182138124
>never got high in tourneys
What the fuck have you been smoking? She got high at least years KOIFT.
>>182138061
Is he fucking high? What a clown ffs
>>182138176
C-cute...
>>182138149
it helps not being autistic
>>182138124
a kazumi lpayer named karei literally ocv'd in the grand finals at mastercup (5v6 team tournament in japan) last year.
knee said really early on that kazumi was really strong.
>>182138238
>dude he said get off me for the millionth time haha
>>182138124
Name one way Kazumi benefits from lag.
hard mode: it has to be specific to a small pool of characters which includes Kazumi
impossible mode: it has to be specific to Kazumi
>>182138124
saint also got checked by a Kazumi a month ago. it's not new.
>set my alarm for 2 hours ago so I can watch some of the tourney
>I somehow turned do not disturb on and alarm didn't go off
>just now getting up
Well shit. Did I miss anything decent? Or did I accidentally make the right choice by sleeping in?
So what next? Is Chloe going to be secret god-tier next?
>>182138264
>He/She stole his/her wallet again! Hahaha
>>182138301
You goofed big
This is pretty intense so far
>Switched Feng for Steve
God damnit
>>182138301
You missed a majority of the new age of Kazumi.
>>182138301
this has been one of the best tekken 7 tournaments of 2017.
>>182138304
she's got some stuff.
>>182138301
Ouch. You should check a VOD for top 8 once it's over
Is Devil Jins d/f 1,2 as good?
Devil Jin has pretty much the exact same tools as her but has EWGF as well
>>182138301
10/10 tournament so far. Definitely missed out.
>>182138425
no, it's not a natural combo and the df+1 doesn't track anywhere near as well as kazumi's. it also doesn't knockdown.
>>182138172
>stop thinking just watch
Sorry for not being braindead and seeking to find reasons for unusual things I wittness.
has anyone here had any experience playing as kazumi? is she any fun or just a decent character?
>Knee on Bryan
RARE
>>182138517
I played Alisa in Tag 2. Haven't even tried out any other character in 7 apart from learning to punish them as Kazumi. Feels like the perfect character for me.
>he busted out the Bryan
whew lads
>Knee swaps again
wewlad he is real good
>>182138517
I played her for a bit before moving to Eliza. Kazumi is definitely fun to play. The feeling of satisfaction from outplaying your opponent purely on fundamentals is like no other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyo8cKGUayw Footage of Take about switching from Bryan to Kazumi.
>Knee picks Bryan
I wonder if we'll end up with a Bryan mirror.
>>182138594
Similar to outplaying someone with Jack or way fucking better?
>>182138660
Similar.
>>182138660
Way better. Kazumi does way less damage, and has a smaller toolset than Jack.
Does Tsteve have any other lines other than "GET OFF OF ME"
knee is making me believe please don't let me down
>>182138701
>>182138743
i can get into that.
how is kazumi execution wise? is she relatively easy to play in so much as doing combos and the hard shit really comes from having to just straight outplay your opponent?
>>182138743
She's also most effective at a close range so you need to be able to deal with your opponent's moveset instead of being able to somewhat rely on outspacing them.
he fucked up every taunt
>>182138826
the latter
>>182138826
she's extremely simple. her main difference with jack is her offense is a lot better whereas her keep out with active pokes is worse.
Will Mommy win this?
>>182138828
i'm having trouble seeing how she's better than jack if she has to be up close, does less damage and has a limited moveset.
seriously asking.
>>182138747
No need to change it up when the crowd laughs every time
>>182138826
Her execution is really simple. The only somewhat difficult part is using b,f 1,2,1+2 in combos. She really doesn't use combos too much aside from her wall carry.
>>182138747
the worst is when the match is really tense and the crowd doesn't laugh but markman says some dumb follow up shit anyway has happened like 4 times
>taunt orbital
some next level shit
>>182138916
the main thing i dislike about playing jack is that i feel forced to keep out so i think this could be a switch that better compliments my playstyle because i like to get in people's faces.
>>182138963
good to hear.
Save us from Knee vs JDCR kazumi!
Waifushitters BTFO
>>182139160
get fucked
>that fucking orbital
knee is godly
great set
CLUTCH ORBITAL
INTO THE WAIFU TRASH
WHOEVER THE FUCK SAID THAT KNEE DOESN'T PLAY BRYAN ANYMORE IN THE LAST THREAD, YOU WERE SADLY MISTAKEN
Kazumifags on suicide watch
KNEE VS JDCR AGAIN
Looks like take took a knee to his knee
holy fucking shit knee vs jdcr rematch. Also I felt like knee sand bag a little In that second round.
welp, there goes another 1st place trophy for JDCR
Knee vs Take intense as fuck match.
>>182139160
get out of here, lady!
Knee is the hero Tekken deserves.
I'm so glad I woke up in time for this
oh boy can't wait to see the same people play again like in every grand final
I can't accept this fate...
>>182138923
she's fast, and she has a 10 frame jab
i guess, idk
>JDCR vs Knee again
my heart can't take this
Knee vs Take was a great match. Really nice.
>>182137773
do knee and jdcr have some beef or something?
>jdcr vs knee
congratulation JDCR on another win , no need to watch this again .
We are getting melee levels of predictability
>>182139260
he's the king.
lost to JDCR and threw a game as Steve to build hype for the return of Bryan who people thought he stopped playing.
Knee is the champ.
Actually respect Take. This shit was good and fairly close, reminds that everyone in Tekken is viable. Knee was so happy...
>>182139289
I want to marry Nasuno!!!!!
GET FUCKED WAIFUS
>>182139340
Is Jack the Jigglepuff of Tekken 7?
>>182139340
that match was anything but predictable
Man, I've never felt a tension like this before
>>182139340
you fucking wut, literally every match is close
>>182139332
Yeah not sure exactly why they don't like each other though. And for people bitching I'm sure evo will have a bigger upset hoping for the main man chanel to win evo this time
>>182139367
massive respect to Take, Tekken balanced as fuck.
>>182139340
>implying anyone could've predicted Take doing this well
>feng
not like this
Whats up with Knee and JDCR, they play at every tournament but not in Korean tournaments
>>182139469
>ps4
people could
>>182139469
>>182139430
>>182139420
>It doesn't matter it is always the same guys in finals we had an unsual character do okay
literally meleefags
>>182139406
if Jack is puff what does that make Kazumi?
>>182139406
That would be Lucky
>>182139518
>downplaying the matches
Fuck off with your conspiracy theory. Knee has always said Kazumi is a strong character.
>>182139462
should have captured the tiny bit of neutral before the orbital
I was doing it but my filesize got a bit massive
>>182139518
>>182139542
peach
>>182139521
no one really knew he was playing kazumi. he's literally only played bryan (and bob in tag 2 as the partner for bryan).
>>182139521
Kazumi getting third at this tournament is far more impressive than amsa placing with Yoshi.
Tekken is crazy established, Kazumi doing this good is similar to if Mango v Kage happened in 2017.
Knee seriously knows how to punish moves.
Why is JDCR suddenly the only Dragunov player anyway? He was everywhere just recently.
>>182139583
correct
Asuka is so annoying. You think she's whiffed and then when you go for punish and it's a high crush launcher out of nowhere.
>>182139573
I got it, I just messed up the trim on accident.
>>182139725
nobi is still on dragunov and i think he always will be. kkokkoma just switched off him for kazumi in this tournament.
>>182139815
ALL KNEE HAD TO DO WAS BACK OFF
All Knee has to do was back off for those last 3 seconds.
>>182140013
i don't want to talk about it
>>182139725
Dragunov is a shit tier, he has damage but garbage ch tools, all he can do is d2 and iwr2 all day.
So many timer steals in this top 4
>>182140047
You're retarded
>>182140047
Lmfao shut up you dumb blue scrub
>>182140079
this is the first game i've seen in a minute where the timer steals are actually really good. it reminds me of Samurai Shodown V Special.
"I can't make it out of 3rd Dan so my character sucks" is my favorite tekgen meme
jesus knee
rip knee. great tournament though glad I woke up for this
Been considering switching from Alisa to Kazumi, since she seems far less gimmicky. Is she an overall weaker character than the robot?
>It's another JDCR wins a tournament episode
>the handshake
everything went better than expected
IM SO SICK OF ASIAN HARRY POTTER WINNING
>>182140261
Why do they hate each other?
>>182140249
no kazumi is about the same probably a bit better. alisa isn't very gimmicky though, you might be playing her wrong.
Dat handshake XD. The salt took a day off that time.
>that handshake
:')
Who could have guessed that would be the outcome
I am sure excited for the next event JDCR is at cause who knows what will happen
JUST WAIT FOR EVO KNEE IS DOING A LONG CON
Very very good tournament glad I woke up for that. GG's all around
Somebody please have that jdcr and knee handshake
>>182140249
They're actually a bit similar in style, strengths and weaknesses
WEBM OF THE HANDSHAKE NOW
Can't wait for Evo.
>>182140265
dumb frog poster
>>182140350
>crowd getting hype for a hand shake
based
>>182140327
>Bryaned for Kazumi but not JDCR Drag
feels off, you're right
>>182139678
Third AND fourth.
>not even Knee could do shit against JDCR' supremacy
Amazing tournament tho
Depressing reminder that Tekken is the #4 game at EVO
>>182140336
what are their differences?
>>182140128
>>182140126
Not an argument.
>>182140350
Well that is nothing, Knee even goes in for the shake first
>>182140350
AWWWWWW
>>182140302
>XD
Neck yourself
>>182140249
Not sure how anyone can possible think Alisa has gimmicks except someone who just picked up tekken. Alisa has a pretty solid standing as one of the best defensive/poke-oriented characters.
>>182140429
you don't deserve to post ichi
>>182140416
Alisa is a very defensive character, Kazumi very offensive.
WTF that guy just going full ham into the mic
Are any of the Kazumi players going to Evo?
That honestly was one of the best tourneys I've seen in my life. Now I'm even more hyped for evo this year
>>182140409
#3 The final on the last day. Melee fags btfo
>>182140350
this game and its community are so fucking sick.
>cosplay of old outfits
why
>no Kazumi cosplayers
>>182140409
Reminder that evo is mostly a payin advertising event now except smash.
>>182140350
Knee is so based.
>>182140350
>handshake hype
they REALLY like Tekken over there huh
>>182140409
>depressing
that's good desu, fuck those last game slots as a europoor
>>182140470
Kazumi isn't that offensive
>>182140519
Too elaborate
>>182140380
They haven't shook hands playing in years.
>>182140409
That's not really depressing at all. You realize there are thousands of people who have not had adequate time to practice Tekken 7 right? Why would they sign up for evo? And nobody really cares about tag2.
Now if next year Tekken numbers don't come up then you can be dissapointed.
>Dragunov wins major
>All the tekgen Fagunov players who still can't make Brawler have to keep pretending he's shit tier and can't win
>>182140301
>>182140336
Yeah, I'm still fairly new, so I hardly know what I'm doing. Alisa's movelist is just filled with not immediately obvious noob traps, whereas Kazumi's just contains the essentials. And they work. That's what prompted the question.
>>182140541
Final game slot always happens while I'm at goddamn work so I'm cool with it being earlier too
>>182140563
Blue babbies will always make excuses as to why they're not good enough to get out of low-ranks
>>182140563
Nobody thinks he's shit tier though. Dragfags wouldn't be playing him if they thought he was shit tier lmao. They'd be playing Bryan or some other 'not really bullshit but bullshit' character.
>>182140383
you're not wrong, look at Knee through the whole tournament.
He got sent to losers against JDCR after going all Feng, then picked Steve against Kazumi and got blown out, and THEN revealed his Bryan against Take and doesn't even consider using it against Drag.
I don't like engaging in conspiracy but all the pieces are there. Calling it now, Knee goes Bryan against JDCR at evo and wastes him.
>>182136261
I'd have him a thousand times over than most commentators. TastyAris HAVE to commentate at evo.
>>182140350
nice on Knees part, and JDCR earned it
Is Take going to be at Evo? Really want to see more of him.
>>182140686
he never uses bryan against jdcr, not just drag/jdcr's drag. jdcr has been eating up knee's bryan every tournament since tekken 6.
Jdcr knows knees Bryan better than knee himself that's why he didn't pick him
JDCR wins again? Somebody remove these guys
>>182140327
This tournament proved that the entire meta revolves around throwing out literally nothing but safe shit unless you're way behind. It's no surprise that everyone, particularly honest Bryan mains, had to switch to cheesy shit to get anywhere. The amount of timeouts for a game like Tekken is aids, and JDCR fully manipulated it considering he had a plan to come out on top in every single timeout situation.
>>182140794
>meta
>honest bryan
>cheesy shit
Nice bait m8
what's the feud between knee and jdcr about?
>>182140794
Knee just should chill the fuck up when the timer ends. Also they must bump timer to something like 70 seconds
Does the crowd even understand ??
I don't even feel like playing the game now, i'm exhausted just watching
>>182140754
I'm pretty sure the whole gang is going.
>>182140876
They laughed every time Steve had a follow-up to "get off me". Every single time.
should knee have gone devil jin?
>almost 6 am
Time to sleep. Best tournament of 2017 so far.
Knee should stick to 1-2 character, this shit is too much for a human being.
Asia points for world finals qualifications:
JDCR 220
Knee 100
Nobi - Take 70
Saint 50
Kkokkoma 45
>>182140851
>every single major set in the top 8 being decided by timeout scrambles
>not cheesy
>implying Bryan's any good when matches are decided by who lames the hardest
JDCR started getting serious into e sports just this year, you cunts need to back off with your bitching
>>182141067
his actual job contract was to play tekken on stream for a set amount of hours for the past 3 years. he had plenty of time to learn every single character in the game in that time, because eventually his best ones got to too high ranks to actually get matches.
>>182140350
What uhh, what happened between knee and JDCR that people get hyped over a handshake
>>182141104
He's got a sponsor now, gotta bring in those W's
>stream dies as soon as interview starts
LOL, Get FUCKED JDCR
>>182140794
Gigas will be meta soon
Screencap this
>>182141214
beef and drama and rivalry since tekken 6 days.
>>182141160
>contract
Real? Wew didn't know that
>learn every single character
Probably. But playing at the highest level possible against best players...
>>182141247
>Game has been out for years
>Bottom tier character will now randomly become meta
Don't think so friendo
>>182141104
But variety makes it interesting, I don't care JDCR wants the money. What is the point of a tournament if we know who is going to win? may as well just have a load of invitational matches
>>182140673
Maybe some people pick and play character because they are cool. Not everyone goes by the tiers.
>>182141341
Sony will bribe Harada to put 30 frame input lag on all platforms for parity so only gigas becomes viable
>>182140491
Drop your hopes now because evo is neither a well run nor a community orientated event.
>>182141067
He just needs to work on his timeout game, it was very obvious he was unprepared for that being a significant factor, unlike JDCR. I doubt he won't do better in the next tournament, since he got fucked by that so hard that it would be impossible for him not to make it a point to work on it.
>>182137836
Fetal alcohol syndrome.
>>182138425
it's pretty nice for pressure, but it doesn't function quite like kazumi's df 1,2. DJ df 1 is +8 on hit, so you can use it to fish for CH launchers. The 2 can be delayed forever, so once you've got them expecting df 1,2 you can do df 1, whatever.
>>182141424
Tekken is on Sunday this year
>>182141341
>Kazumi
>>182141337
yea he was employed by afreeca, the main streaming site in korea. granted, he picks characters that are generally pretty simple. kazumi, feng, dragunov, and he's played devil jin since dr on the side and on basically every team in tag 2, and bryan of course since 5.0. the steve pick clearly did nothing, and it's most likely because that character is much harder in general than those first 3 i mentioned.
>>182141470
Kazumi has never at any point been considered low tier
Gigas has been considered dead last in the game for a long time, for a reason
>>182141383
Tekken is predictable because it takes too much skill, it's a problem that Capcom managed to fix with SFV. I'm emailing Harada so he can follow suit.
>>182141383
a single dropped combo and any of the matches could end up differently, JDCR won the first set by a hair's breadth
>>182141383
I agree they really need to take a note out of Riot's book when it comes to balancing for hype matches, also they should add critical hits to the game to spice it up
>>182141306
Would you care to tell me thestorybehind them?
>>182140794
>top 8 is a turtlefest
>pocket characters fucking everywhere
>gods like JDCR and Knee dropping their shit regularly
You can thank PS4 for all of this. Remember Knee having to commit to an unsafe string because he couldn't make the hit confirm earlier in the set?
>>182141614
Definitely, maybe add random counter hits as well. Need that "Variety".
>>182138061
>dude get off me
>>182141528
>>182141614
>wah lol
>wah sfv
predictable. It doesn't matter the reason, it is less interesting when the same guy is always winning and the same few are always doing every well. It makes the tournament format pointless as the winner is pretty much decided. Hurt SFV in it's first year, is hurting melee now and many sports have had similar issues.
Games can have skill and variety but you fags will keep ignoring that.
Say what you want about sfv and lol they get way more views than tekken.
>>182141541
but he doesn't, having the possibility he might lose but nearly never does isn't interesting.
When was the last time a female character won a tournament?
Clearly gender inequality
>>182141463
And what does the day the publisher paid for change?
>>182141828
But the point of a tournament is to prove who's the best.
>>182141684
1 EXTRA FRAME OF LAG DOESNT MEAN
ANY
THING
YOU
DUMB
3RD
DAN
SHITTER
>>182141684
I guess newkids who never watched them can be happy and think "wow even those gods are dropping stuff sometimes" when they are infact fucking robots on proper versions.
>>182140794
The highest level of Tekken is fairly boring for people not into the game, the players basically use 1, d/f1, a safe low and thats it. The players themselves are boring as fuck too, they really need mo POKCHOPS.
>>182141923
And if we know who is the best already it becomes pointless, we are proving what everyone knows
>>182141923
No, the point of ESPORTS is to entertain me specifically.
Why is it ALWAYS kazuyas who win quit??
>>182141679
nothing but speculation. no one who knows them well even tells anyone or are also just as in the dark about it as we are.
the most "reliable" rumor is that it had something to do with deathmatches since tekken 6. jdcr won a long deathmatch vs knee in 6 and they didn't play another one in that game because knee didn't want to but jdcr did. tag 2 rolls around and knee really wants the run back, but jdcr constantly ducks him. tie in the fact that knee basically never cleanly beat jdcr in tournaments, especially with his signature bryan even in tag 2 itself, and they basically never saw eye-to-eye.
apparently they were on good terms and even friends back in 5.0 and dr and early tekken 6.other rumors involve girlfriends, which seems somehow less believable than this deathmatch stuff.
>>182142081
yeah, who wants entertainment at a tournament. fighting game shave never been about that
>>182142091
What's wrong with win quitting? I'm better than you, stop wasting my time
>>182141897
Alisa won some tournaments in tekken 6 era
>>182142223
Steam name? Prove you're better than me.
>>182142317
I think he was just talking about that specific situation anon, not you
>>182141828
fighting games and the fgc have pretty much always been about overcoming the odds. bad matchups, pixel life comebacks, low tier heroes, and beating the clear best players. there has to be a favorite for there to be underdogs for people to get excited for when they win.
if the best don't consistently win, why would anyone care if someone beats them? a new winner at every major isn't necessarily exciting because no one is a favorite or an underdog, so there's no story to any match besides anything personal or long standing like match history between the players or the character matchup. saint was the man to beat last year and he got beat. nobi was the year before that, and he got beat. jdcr is the man this year. we'll see if he'll get beat.
> suddenly everyone plays Kazumi
STAY AWAY FROM MOMMY, YOU CUNTS. You should have witnessed the power of Kazumi back when the pros didn't noticed it yet.
>>182142438
>heroes
kys senpai baka
>>182142490
everyones always noticed her strengths shes just boring which is a result of her best strengths
pic related
>>182142317
OwnMasterPro5k
>>182142593
>that glorious engrish
>>182142520
it's just a term that represents the fact that people tend to cheer for people who play low tier characters.
>>182142065
this is really bad for the longevity of the game, even if it is balanced Tekken 7 will become a dead game in a year or two
>>182141614
they shouldn't take any shit from riiot, preferably. no fucking thank you.
>>182142593
> 3 retweets and likes
Only knee noticed it. Even saint didn't see that coming a month ago.
>>182142593
She's low risk and safe, but she doesn't get much from her safe, low risk tools.
>tfw Knee was Vegeta
>>182142438
>about overcoming the odds.
Great, that isn't happening
>if the best don't consistently win, why would anyone care if someone beats them?
There is consistent and there is winning 99% of shit you go to. When that is all we are getting and no one is overcoming him and to do so most are 3 years behind this no longer works. And the numbers show this, this event was struggling to get past 15k
> a new winner at every major
Yes, good thing I'm not advocating for the exact opposite of the problem we have but just more variety than current.
>so there's no story to any match besides anything personal or long standing
You mean like we are getting right now?
>is the man this year. we'll see if he'll get beat.
A year of predictability isn't good, when we can write off what will happen for the next 5 months there is no reason to be excited about who will win.
>>182142868
Complain about the format then, not the game. The best player winning is the ideal outcome, and the same player winning means that it's being achieved. I bet you complain about Sonicfox too.
>>182142438
I can agree with that, but it can be detrimental if it's long enough. Just check out the NRS community and SonicFox's reign. The amount of "wow a pot bonus? great for sonic" "wow sonic grand finals" "wow sonic wins again" moments heavily outweighs the few tournaments he actually doesn't win. I watch all the fighting games I can and even I find myself less interested in NRS game top 8's if Sonic is there.
>>182142983
it's people like him who are responsible for capcom turning games like street fighter into babby casual shit
>>182142983
>>182143037
Like clockwork
>>182143067
It's the organizers for inviting the same group of fags to every single event for branding purposes. Imagine if the New York Yankees played in every minor baseball league.
when will these dumb gooks """discover""" Rosie?
>>182143141
Well it IS the biggest example, what do you expect?
>>182143198
They get sponsored because they got gud.
>>182141614
>need to take a note out of Riot's
>>182142983
>Complain about the format then, not the game
I literally have been saying the tournament format is pointless not that the game is bad. You are the one getting triggered someone dare insults something related to tekken.
>The best player winning is the ideal outcome
Sure but when the best has been decided interest dies. No western player will ever achieve anything so there is little reason to get behind them. At best JDCR will fall off and another Korean will resign for a year so we have another predictable year.
>I bet you complain about Sonicfox too.
The fact you know people dislike how he constantly wins proves the whole point.
>>182143290
That doesn't contradict what I said. What the hell are a bunch of Koreans doing at a tournament in the Philippines? Is inviting a bunch of world-class players to shit on another fighting community in their own home town supposed to help its growth?
>>182141614
are there people actually this retarded?
>>182143489
You tell me.
>>182142223
>wins 3-2 by a millimeter of health
>I'm better than y-you, d-don't waste my time
>>182143067
>but SFV!
SF4 had variety and was a good game. It is possible.
T7 is in a position where it could take over the FGC but the current results mean it won't
>>182143462
... yes actually. The pros will be around for money matches and casuals, which increases the skill level of the locals.
>>182143552
>which increases the skill level of the locals.
Yeah I'm sure all those local players will dominate now. Meanwhile none get enough exposure or points to enter KoIF.
Anyone want to play PC NA lobby? I wanna practice my Gigas.
>>182141761
underrated
>>182143668
they will be doing better now, yes. Some may make it into KoIFT as well. Do you not understand how tournaments work and why you want big names to be there?
Or are you just salty that korea and japan are dominating because they had a 2 year head start?
Is it possible to play bears honestly? Or am I just a walking gimmick machine that everyone hates if I pick one?
>>182143686
Yeah sure my PSN is Love6dawn I'll be on soon!
>>182143551
It is possible in any good competitive game, as is the existence of a single dominant player. You can't force it to be varied without introducing random shit to gimp the best player.
>>182138176
>coordination to hit 100 KBD's and EWGF's in a row
>but not to catch a bottle lobbed underhand at a moderate speed
>>182143552
>>182143668
>tfw was at one of these casuals vs Saint and got blown the fuck out
it was fun though
>>182143067
SF has always had different winners because its the most competitive fighting game by far.
>>182143552
>money matches and casuals
AKA they suck up all the competitive money and sponsor attention in the environment because the best Filipino player can't even make top 8, when they're not sitting in their hotel room practicing with their teammates.
Meanwhile anyone that doesn't have the luxury of being able to fly to the other side of the world to scoop up another few thousand prize pool can get fucked.
They may as well just have all the tournaments in Korea and Japan, since that's obviously where all the good players are at. Make things easier for themselves.
>>182142782
i took the pic like 10 minutes after the tweet was made.
>>182142807
so? that's high level tekken. low risk, low reward. but when you play at a high level, you make low rewards and stretch them out as much as possible by gaining information and using the frame advantage well. you milk every bit you can out of every little advantage and play for the long haul.
>>182142868
15k is a lot for tekken. number of ciewers doesn't reflect the excitement in the matches. competitive tekken has been niche since its birth and only since console release is it showing signs of growing. will it last is the next question.
90% right now is an exaggeration. saint and jdcr are going overseas where other koreans or japanese players just don't go, like north america or europe or middle east or latin america. and yes, they win those, but those are places where no one has had access to the game. that's a result of a shitty release schedule and money grubbing by namco.
back at home, they didn't win 90% of events.
i don't know what game you're following, but the story so far has always been to dethrone the best. these past 2 years have been pretty neat to watch because it's always happened. this tournament has a cool matchup between jdcr and knee twice, and take getting really far and nobi falling short when everyone expects nobi to get the farthest and is perceived as the clear best in japan.
why would anyone write off jdcr losing in the next months? saint randomly started beating jdcr's ass before in tag 2 and in 7, nobi has beaten jdcr back in 7.0, who knows if knee can find some breakthrough like saint did for a while, or maybe someone else can come through, like chanel, lowhigh, qudans, jeondding, go attack, or even take who never played jdcr this tourney.
>>182143742
>they will be doing better now,
Sure, those few money matches will increase there skill level enough to be relevant especially vs Koreans
>Some may make it into KoIFT as well.
Seeing as they won't get the points from their home tournaments that leaves ones that can travel. So only if the few who can afford it are the good ones and they are able to do well when koreans are cockblocking them there as well.
So no, the whole point of sponsoring events all around is to try and help talent from those regions, the opposite is happening.
>Or are you just salty that korea and japan are dominating
Yeah it is dull
Just woke up, what channel was the tournament on? Wanna watch the vods
>>182138176
bad throw
Saint fucked up this time all around
>>182143910
Yes, japan and korea have had a 2 year head start. Why are you upset that the best in the world are coming and training and teaching the players that didn't have a 2 year head start? It's healthy for the game. Do you play fighters or do you only watch them?
>>182143804
>PSN
she asked for PC
Is king good? I don't see anyone playing him on twitch and I didn't see him in the latest tournament my dudes.
>>182143816
>but sfv
yes I know
>>182143840
>You can't force
SF4 didn't have to. It is possible and preferable
>>182144039
Fuck I'm retarded :(
>>182143462
It's actually pretty obvious how little fucks they gave about the local community with that tournament.
>Full English commentary
>Full English stream
>Full Korean/Japanese top 8
I'm not even sure why they bothered holding it there. Cheap venue?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUY2vHLQGOs
So is this the best stage theme or what?
>>182143993
main tekken twitch
>>182144031
Why are you strawmanning? Are my criticisms so uncomfortable for you that you have to completely and purposefully avoid addressing them directly?
>>182143993
There were some pretty intense matches Knee vs JDCR
>>182144161
well if they have a bigger filipino speaking audience then they would have had a stream for it. it's just not worth the money to host a stream for them compared to the majority of enlgish/korean/japanese.
I can't deal with Paul
He plays defensive and just does random ass hard to punish deathfists, 1 lucky hit and thats 40% gone
He plays offensive and its a coin flip simulator
>>182144298
I'm not strawmanning, what are your criticisms? That japan and korea are good and took a tournament? Yeah, they're good, they took a tournament. This is healthy for the community and the game. Highlighting local players by having a local only tournament doesn't actually do what you think it does. Tournaments are better for everyone if big names show up. Do you play fighters or do you just watch them?
>Have a good and fair fight against an opponent
>Manage to win 3-1 but every round was close
>Revenge fight
>Opponent is rushing down a lot harder this time
>Kind of get overwhelmed because can't figure out what pokes are best to interrupt their mashing
>When I lose the round they go ape on my prone body
>Obivously salty they lost the first match
>>182143917
>15k is a lot for tekken.
And it is nothing compared to SFV. You want as many eyes as possible, predictability doesn't get attention and in fact loses it.
>90% right now is an exaggeration
It ain't and your excuses aren't changing shit
>has always been to dethrone the best.
This isn't a story, it is filler. One player dominates to a huge degree for a very extended period then another might take over for a long period. That isn't a story, you accidentally showed this in your last post.
Look at melee right now, you have two people who can win and a load of good but not good enough. This has caused entrants and views to drop. This is how it always goes.
>why would anyone write off jdcr losing in the next months?
It is not impossible, I no longer care cause this has dragged on for so long. Just like when a anime has extended filler making the main conflict become boring, pacing matters. If he gets one loss but then goes back to dominating or another player dominating it is back to boredom. You want a variety of players doing well consistently as that creates a story, not this.
>>182144161
>>182144351
Bruh we speak English just fine
>>182143552
Agreed, playing a FT3 with Saint and Knee will increase your skill tenfold, EVO will now be dominated by filipinas.
>>182144351
You don't get a bigger audience by ignoring people.
Sure there must have been flips commentating in the building, just get two guys from the community and stick a shitty camera on them
>>182144070
>It is possible
Yes, that's what I said.
>SF4 didn't have to.
Yes, that's what I implied.
What are you trying to say?
>>182144464
Hasn't the JCDR block just started? Wasn't saint dominating ~ 3 tournaments ago?
Jesus christ who cares about fucking esports, kys already you streamfags
>>182144060
top tier scrub killer, top tier tournament character
>>182144161
Honestly, it's a new game and this is one of the first major tournaments it's had since proper release. Even if it was a regional thing they really couldn't avoid making a big deal out of it as an international event because of the timing, and as a result getting all the big names involved and making a English-focused event out of it. It was kind of a dick move but given their position it wasn't like it didn't come from a specific set of circumstances. The locals hopefully appreciated it either way.
>>182143917
15k is dumpster tier even for a fighting game lmao.
>>182144558
Your comment was pointless, it is possible and is better so should be aimed for
>>182136480
saying the lightning means they have lightning powers is like saying everyone elses hit effect gives means they have special powers
>>182144602
tournament scene fuels the game, we need hype tournaments
>>182143462
Yes it does, actually. There was a Flip tournament back when the game came out and a Kazumi player beat Saint's Jack AND Eddy 3-0.
The Southeast Asian and South American players are far better than the American and Euros by a long shot.
>>182144731
this tournament was pretty hype.
I miss Lucifer...
Jukebox mod for PC WHEN?!?!
>>182144772
shut the fuck up lucifer, keep your trip off
>>182144060
King is OG but there's a growing stigma for him for some reason. I wounder if this growing hate for him will wash over to AK.
>>182144731
If esports "hype" fueled the game SFV wouldn't be a massive failure on all fronts like it is. Catering to retarded esportfags was the thing that killed the game and I hope Tekken forever stays away from that scene.
>>182144449
>tell anon not to strawman
>asks me what my criticisms are, admitting that he doesn't know them
>proceeds to argue with his strawman again
Jesus christ go take some pills or something.
>>182144173
let me dethrone that for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qykysh6TQ5c
>>182144449
>This is healthy for the community
No it isn't. Flip players don't become well known, flip players don't get into the bigger events. Maybe at best some will play some after and get a little better.
Meanwhile the same few people show up and they win making the tournament same as always, why watch this one when it is the same as last week and the same as next? You can get away with this when it is a variety of good players who travel but don't attend every event and aren't just going to destroy the locals.
>>182144875
>weak bitches can't handle the Anger of Beast that is his megadong.
>>182144898
>don't strawman!
>proceeds to strawman immediately
did you just learn that word and now you're using it as much as possible?
>>182144768
man the first Knee vs JDCR set was something else
>>182144557
I don't think they even had that. You could hear the audience in the stream at all times, there was no additional commentary going on with the Steve and co.
>>182144896
>If esports "hype" fueled the game SFV wouldn't be a massive failure on all fronts like it is
Care to tell me which game gets more views and entrants
>>182144557
Here's what flip commentating sounds like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtIj2QB5u60
ymmv if that's better than UUH UUH GET OFFA ME
>If JDCR doesn't win, Saint will win.
>If Saint doesn't win, JDCR will
Is Echo Fox ruining Tekken?
>>182144906
if big names don't show up, people don't watch. If people don't watch, people don't see flips play. Flips don't get better because flips don't have access to the best players in the world who can teach them. Big names at tournaments helps everyone.
>>182144451
Seems to me that between the matches he realized your defense is subpar and adjusted.
>>182144807
YouTube? Spotify? mpv? Foobar?
>>182145025
more power to them
>>182144664
>should be aimed for
I'm saying it can't be aimed for (or forced) without adding random elements, it has to happen naturally. A competitive game where a player who is clearly the best can't dominate is shit. JDCR's won two out of the three major tournaments this year. Hardly worse than Infiltration at his best in SF4.
>>182145035
If you grow your own talent people watch just for that instead of depending on others. If you only have a few notable players turn up of equal skill people watch and you get views, a good story and new rivalries. You are overstating how much playing a ft5 with a good player will change you, especially when you don't speak their language
Big names can help but it has to be done right.
>>182144464
sfv has had over a year to cook. tekken 7 just got released world wide. it's hard to compare something like viewership given that big difference. no one cares to watch a game they never played before, no one except the competitive scene who followed the arcade release.
90% is an exaggeration. you do the math then get back to me since you made that claim.
jdcr hasn't been dominating to a huge degree either. saint beat him convincingly at ceo a little over two weeks ago. he and saint also deliberately haven't been participating in korean tournaments, so we legit don't know how those players do against them in tournament settings. those guys just don't have sponsors or means or maybe desire to go overseas outside of asia to compete.
>>182144947
>getting mad at being called out twice in a row
>when your response to being called out the first time was to reiterate the exact same shit you got called on
You legitimately have issues. Learn to converse like an normal human being, please.
>>182145231
casuals and money matches motherfucker. This is where most of the knowledge is transmitted. People MOB top players for money matches. They play extended sets. They talk with the players about the sets afterwards.
And no, you don't get a lot of viewership only playing with locals. Who's the best known flip player, AK? After that is probably Spooky. I loves me some Spooky, but I wouldn't wake up at 5 am to watch Spooky play in a tournament.
>>182145259
>the autistic projection.
never change /vg/.
>>182145035
>if big names don't show up, people don't watch
Do you really think everyone in that ~15k people watching the tournament knew Tekken and Korean Tekken pros? Literally all Aris had to do was ask his 4k viewers to run the other two streams in other tabs to get Tekken and the tournament at the top of Twitch, getting massive exposure in the process. The koreans were unnecessary and people getting tired of them like they do SonicFox is a blatant sign of overexposure.
>>182144656
yes. that's how niche tekken is and always has been.
>>182145231
talent doesn't grow out of nothing. talented players can stagnate.
>>182145239
Tekken is the new hotness yet is still fails to even compare with sfv at its worst. Harada had failed again.
>>182145415
Glad to know I won't have to listen to you defend your retarded opinions after all.
I WAS IN MY PROMOTION TO GREEN RANKS AND 2 ROUNDS UP AND THEN I FUCKING CHOKED AGAINST THIS STUPID FUCKING RANDOM ASS SPAMMING JIN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>182145568
dumb frog poster
>>182145568
What character do you play?
>>182145343
>casuals and money matches motherfucker.
Repeating the same thing doesn't help your point. No top players are not going to play everyone and they especially can't play lot of long sets with everyone. Especially when they can't communicate and may want to hide some shit so they have the edge. You are acting like one money match and boom they are now amazing players.
>This is where most of the knowledge is transmitted
In this day and age this really isn't true.
> you don't get a lot of viewership only playing with locals.
Good thing I suggest have some foreign of similar skill level
> Who's the best known flip player, AK?
Kinda proving my point here, they didn't get exposure and won't now on a larger stage.
>>182145687
>Flips don't get exposure and no one knows any.
>Let's keep it that way by not adding incentives for people to watch flip players.
Are you confused, friend?
>>182136278
This art is too cute
>>182145568
Can't win em all, anon. Get back in there and get that promo chance again!
>>182145773
If the commentators and organizers did their fucking jobs they wouldn't need to treat sportsmen as e-celebs for the sake of getting an audience. Your logic is like saying every single boxing match should include Mike Tyson because nobody will watch otherwise.
>>182145510
i don't think you understand how few people care about competitive tekken. every new tekken game people have said the game will grow, but it doesn't. some old players stop playing and some new players come in, but it equals out over time.
tekken is the new hotness the same way xrd rev/rev2 was the new hotness or kof13 was the new hotness. it ended up not getting much growth despite lots of hype and exciting matches and praise for the game.
Is there any similar to the mishimas wave dash for non wave dash chars?
>>182145773
The attempt at an incentive stopped any getting exposure by getting in the way.
As I said, a few known foreign players of similar skill level works best. A load of much higher level does the opposite.
>>182145872
Nobody DOES watch boxing anymore
>>182145923
wut
in case you mean Mishima wavedash for non Mishimas, Hwoarang
>>182145872
You don't understand. Commentators and organizers don't get the randoms to tune in. They get them to stay once they are tuned in. What gets the randoms to tune in is star power. It's the same reason why Hollywood keeps casting white people in roles white people shouldn't be in.
To use an anecdote, I've got a local scene with some pretty decent players. We're not big names here, but we make top 32-top 8 in a fair spread of games. Our local streams get maybe 3 viewers. 15 for a big seasonal tournament. If diago showed up and played with us, we'd get steam rolled, but we would get many more than 15 viewers.
>>182145923
Not really sure I really understand your question, but I'm guessing you're wondering if there is a mobility option similar to wavedash.
If that's the case, then you could do Nina's Hayashida step cancels. Although it has backwards and sidestep momentum instead of forward momentum like wavedash.
Leo is such unga bullshit
>>182146079
>What gets the randoms to tune in is star power.
Randoms tune in 99% because of the twitch frontpage, recommended streams and hosts.
>>182146079
>I've got a local scene with some pretty decent players
Finland?
>>182146121
Let me rephrase, you know how saint dashes in the opponent face? How does he do it so fast? Is really just him hitting, ff,ff,ff ?
I'm afraid to ever do anything against Xiaoyu
It feels like she has 5 frame start up jabs
>>182146250
and what makes a stream recommended? What makes people, well known people, like Aris host? Might it be star power? Might it be that Aris knows some good Tekken is going to go down, because JDCR, Knee and Saint are there, so he hosts them so his viewers can see the good tekken?
Might that be why Aris doesn't host my local scene?
>>182146275
Nahh, I'm a burger.
>>182146079
And what happens if JDCR stops playing? The game takes a huge hit, if you rely on a few good players then you live an die on them. This is partly why hollywood is in a horrible place right now, if Tom Cruise jumps off a building for Scientology they are fucked.
Tekken pros are not big enough names anyway, they are fucking nobodies even compared to SF
>>182146306
Yeah, he literally just mashes the shit out of ff
Fuck I keep getting trashed in regular matches let alone a ranked.
Can any season vets give me some tips that'll help my overall performance?
Also I'm playing Leo
>>182146445
I totally agree, which is why it's important that we leverage the stars we do have to showcase local scenes. The stars go, the locals improve and have tons of matches to analyze, and the stream monsters see some foreign talent they might not see otherwise. It's good all around.
>>182146207
Reminder that leo is a girl.
>>182146306
he's doing f,f,df,f,f and so on. the df cancels the dash animation and buffers low parry at the same time to beat duck jabs or generic d+4 that try to stop him.
>>182146079
>It's the same reason why Hollywood keeps casting white people in roles white people shouldn't be in.
Oh I get it, you're one of "them". I will stop giving (You)s
>>182146424
And how did Aris get notable? He made a name for himself, JDCR didn't come sit in his living room while he streamed.
Instead of relying on Aris make your own so you don't need him. Maybe the problem isn't the big boys aren't helping, maybe you have worse players than you realise and shit people commentating.
>>182146491
>Leo
Abuse d/b+4, 1 and qcf+1
>>182146491
Stop pressing buttons
Make good use of her launchers
Make good use xher 50/50s after crouch dash and KNK stance
Make good use of his low sweep
>>182146557
>why it's important that we leverage the stars we do have
But when the stars get in the way and local talent doesn't get a chance to shine it is pointless.
No Flip is a name now, JDCR and Knee aren't better known cause everyone watching new them and the event could have been any event cause it was the same guys doing well. Maybe 5 guys who can't speak korean play Saint after for 10 minute each and get slightly better, they aren't gonna beat him next time in tournament though.
Didn't achieve shit
>promoted to Marauder
>lose 50 matches straight afterwards
>back to blue ranks
wew lad
>>182146670
It's a mistake not to leverage the tools you do have. Pro players can be, and are effectively utilized by local scenes in big tournaments like these. Otherwise these scenes can fade away into obscurity with how much glitz and glam is in fighting games now. Aris rose in a different time, and had pretty large natural advantages compared to the flips.
>>182146663
I'm not trying to propagandize here. I'm just saying if your story has japanese people, as main characters, they should probably be japanese actors. Chinese actors playing chinese characters. White actors playing white characters. Going "lol diffrent race now" is bewildering from any angle.
>>182146670
well yeah, it's not a problem that they aren't helping, but when they do help, it's a pretty big help. point is that getting big names to help out or be at your events is not a big detriment or holds back your scene.
>>182146845
>no flip is a name now
And without help, from outsiders, the flips would be rolled by the developed tekken scenes and money from around the world. This is a long term investment kind of thing. Pros came, leveled up the locals, made rivalries, and put fire in some bellies. I'm excited to see what happens next.
>>182146847
How did this happen
>>182146670
>And how did Aris get notable?
It was chance and a gimmick during the MKX launch periode. Jwong got the peak viewers but he was close close to 2nd place and keept all those retarded mouthbreathing mogrel kids as his subarmy since then.
>>182146978
I lost 50 matches
>>182146959
>This is a long term investmen
What you mean is nothing happened. Pros steam rolled locals, none got noticed and probably had a bit of fun but are in no way super good now.
>>182146998
Aris isnt even gonna leave pools at evo.
Just a hagrid imposter
>>182146847
You should be kyu again for losing 50 matches straight in a real ranking system.
>>182147036
I mean which characters did you lose to. Why do you think you lost to them.
>>182147089
>pros steamrolled locals
generally what happens next.
>no one got noticed
Book was pretty fun to watch, and I had no idea he existed.
>not super good now.
They're not on the level of the Koreans, no. But they now have more experience against them, and hours of match footage to analyze. They will get better. Everything takes time, fighting games are no different.
>>182146959
>I'm excited to see what happens next.
You say that like Koreans have never traveled there before. I'll tell you now what will happen, next year the same players will attend and get destroyed again and no flips will become known.
>>182146207
This is Tekken, not Guilty Gear.
>>182147263
Then why bother playing at all
>>182140851
are you implying bryan is anything but honest?
Lars' unblockable is literally the taunt to charge->taunt attack animation from the sword+shield style in sc3
Man fuck Tekken when is a new and good Soul Calibur again?
>>182146630
Wow thanks that's really interesting
Does Lili have a bad reputation as an annoying waifufag character?
>>182147545
>Does [Female Character] have a bad reputation as an annoying waifufag character?
Yes.
>>182147089
people know doujin since he beat saint at rage art some months ago. people know book from thaiger uppercut tekken 7 recently where he beat yuu 2-0 and placed higher than any international player that wasn't nobi, saint, or jdcr.
>>182147443
Honestly for top players who want to win it is a legit issue. Legacy skill + years of practices pre console release means anyone catching up to the bets koreans is unlikely. Even if you get better so do they. We'll see who so the best swap around in that group but few will reach that level especially more than a 1 off.
Unless those players can get a real cult around them like melee people will loose interest. Some change up without fucking the game up will be needed at some point.
I think this is why despite being shit SFV still get more attention, you can do well even if you don't enjoy the game. That means sponsors and top 8 money.
>Alisa flies backwards
>Flies forward
>Block both hits
>Surely this is minus
>Spams double hitting hopkick
>rolls her head towards you
>Fullscreen low
Fuck this stupid fucking anime character, I was in my promo and lost it, then the next match was against THIS STUPID FUCKING ANIME TRASH
FUCK
I have some questions about King's moves.
What is
his string that goes low kick, low kick, low kick, mid punch
his running hopkick(s)
his throw chain that does the most damage
his throw where he swings you out
his throw where he takes you upside down and smashes your head
Soulless gook robots were always shit for hype
>>182147465
>Lars' unblockable
>>182147893
Shirt farter Jive is "doing well" thanks to the legacy that the fgc build with sf4 and sony force feeding the game esports money in a desperate attempt to keep it relevant.
>>182147915
how new are you
stagger kicks
probably uf 3+4
rdc
big swing
tombstone
>>182147940
There are definitely awesome Asian fighting game players, not in Tekken though. JDCR has to be the most dull person to ever walk the planet.
>>182147978
b+1+3
>>182147893
Until capcom bankrupts
>>182148079
I'm very new, it's my first fighting game
>>182148249
Load up king on practice and go through his move list and just find out what you want to use
Our boy speedkicks is streaming.
how do I get people to stop low jabbing my pressure after blocking my standing jab?
it's only +1 so anything that's not another jab gets stuffed
do I just crouch jab them myself for more frame advantage?
>>182148560
what character? dick jabs can also be low parried and hop kicked.
>>182147465
>having trouble against ublockables
>Lars one nonetheless
>>182148669
bryan, would orbital work?
>>182148547
I watched his stream for the first time just the other day
he's pretty entertaining
>>182148734
go try it in training? you might be able to snake edge them as well, but that's partying pretty hard.
>>182148809
He explains what he is doing, its nice to know what goes on in the mind of a top player. Educational.
>>182148830
I would but I can't figure out how to get the cpu to throw them out as reversals
>>182148560
sidestep, option select df+2 or df+1 with low parry, or just block it and now you're +7.
>>182148702
How did you extract that from the post? I went through his movelist and instantly recognized that animation.
It's also cool that he has a special attack straight from KI charge.
>>182148943
This ain't skullgirls. You set the computer to do the orbital, and you try dick jabbing them.
>>182148734
>would [move of Bryan] work
Yes always
>>182149027
right, gotcha
>>182148974
didn't think of sidestepping, thanks
so once I get to the part where it's basically an RPS blender, usually after I get knocked down, that's when I should sidestep right?
Got my first hatemail as Steve today. Something along the lines of "you happy pushing the same buttons all the time faggot?". This salt is delicious.
>>182148519
I don't main King, I didn't feel like going through his 180+ move list only to find those particular moves
>>182149543
I don't really console much anymore but when I did I used to love responding to that stuff with positive cheery stuff.
A big ol' Thanks! and maybe some emoticons
STOP PUTTING ME AGAINST STUPID FUCKING BIG BODY CHARACTERS WHERE I CANT SEE FUCKING ANYTHING
GIGAS AND JACK WIN FREE AGAINST ME
>>182149971
Just zoom out :^)
For real though I feel the camera of tekken 7 is too zoomed in at times. I hate when it cuts off parts of the legs.
>>182147904
Aawww does baby need a diaper change? a boo boo boo
Are King and Armor King friends?
From 2 rounds in the lead in my promo to green to a 4 loss streak because of Alisa's and Hwoarangs
Im so fucking done I can't take the nerves and anger anymore
>>182150145
The relationship status in facebook says 'It's complicated'
Bless this game and all who play.
>>182150145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbWRrR5KpGY
>>182150145
King is Armor King is Dead is Apprentice is complicated.
>>182150334
King is not Armor King
>>182150386
I'm pretty sure that one of the kings became of the armor kings or other way around.
>>182146847
when you got to loss 10 you probably should've taken a break t b h
Nina is so fucking hard to use god damn
>>182150145
King and the original AK were friends. The current AK (believe to be the brother to the first AK) resents King for not seeking vengeance on Marduk for killing the orginial AK.
>>182150291
cheers
>>182150537
Yeah, I'm kinda learning her on the side but she has a lot of stuff. Her movelist is super bloated.
WHY DO ALL OF HWOARANGS MOVES TRACK 360
>>182150747
they don't. you might be getting read on your timings or you're trying to sidestep after getting hit or blocking a high.
>>182150747
he's one of the easiest characters to sidestep
>win game by an inch
>teabag and then winquit
*vapes*
>Can't see character the opponent uses on PS4
>Have a bad feeling but click yes anyway
>Alisa
Should have followed my feelings
>>182151159
what's wrong with alisa?
other than looking retarded
How to do ewgf? This is pretty much the 1st time I am using a character with a "dp" motion. Unless you count in Zangiefs green hand. Am I too slow? I am either gettin the normal uppercut or a non electric god fist.
Plz help, I really like heihachi and I like the hell sweep combos.
>>182151159
>console kids
It seems that every character is cheap in T7 according to somebody. Goes to show how balanced the game actually is.
>>182151159
You can't get better at the game if you run away from your fears. If you have a hard time with Alisa, you could go into practice mode and see what you can punish and stuff.
>>182151216
Nothing. She's one of the more solid characters in the game.
>>182151159
I swear Alisa is worse than fighting Yoshimitsu. She flies all over the damn place instantly and it's hard as fuck to tell if she is going to do a high mid or low. her chainsaw stance also ha really deceptive range and prolonged hitboxes
>>182149543
>barely any good lows
>no fast launchers at all
>still shit talked by scrubs
where's the logic
So, overall how was the tourney? I heard JD won again.
>>182151264
I'm older than you
>>182151290
I already did multiple times, doesnt make it not cancer to fight against
>>182151421
He kept abusing wake-up kicks that I punished with a full combo and kept eating 1,2,1,2 into CH 4,1,2
>>182151302
Because Harada wanted his anime wafu to be viable, everything she ddoes is safe on block too, even things that really shouldn't be. It's a game about fisticuff and you've got this weebshit weeb bait waifugarbage that breaks all the rules.
>>182151507
Half of her stuff is not safe on block
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8JEqHF6kjc
That moment when you accidentally punch someone out of the game.
>>182151443
It's not cancer, you just need more experience. It's easy to predict the average Alisa online once you've fought her enough. Don't run away from Alisa fights!
>>182151040
dumb eceleb kid
>Lose match, go for revenge, lose.
>Loss after loss after loos always revenge, opponent always accepts.
>Finally learn tiny bit of the mathup or get lucky and pull one win.
>Opponent dodges out.
bob is more or less eddy 2.0
i can never tell what the fuck hes doing
>>182151661
uhhhh think again sweatie ;)
http://rbnorway.org/alisa-t7-frames/
>>182151507
cause JACK, Kuma, Panda, Roger, Alex, Mokujin, Gon etc etc didn't break all the rules already right?
I'm slowly starting to realize that I'm bad at this game and will be forever stuck in green ranks.
>>182151475
so button masher compaining about pushing buttons, got it
>>182151753
Nick Young isn't an e-celeb he's a real celeb, faggot
>>182151443
Your mind is 9 years old at best.
>spend 6 hours in training mode with a character
>try online, lose 3 matches
>spend 6 hours in training mode with another character
someone please help, I can't break the cycle
I hope we'll see more Lee at tournaments. It's no wonder that he isn't popular among the plebs as he is so difficult execution-wise (but then again, so are Nina and the Mishimas and they are significantly more popular than Lee at all skill levels) but surely he isn't too much for the pros.
At scrub level I hope he doesn't get significantly more popular so I can have my special snowflake character when TTT2 online dies for real and I'm forced switch to the inferior game.
>>182151753
Are you for real
>>182152174
he's a really good poking character that is not worht the effort when chars like feng, drag, or kazumi exist. maybe shudy, help me, or fighting gm might get some stuff done somewhere.
>>182151507
>Because Harada wanted his anime wafu to be viable
But Lili sucks
>>182151803
I know that feel. It used to put me on tilt real bad because I would have a greater chance at 2 losses in a set but then I would rarely get a chance at 2 wins because they would ditch after I win once.
Just don't let it get to you and move on to your next opponent. It happens less once you move up in ranks.
>winquitting regardless if the match was close or not
>losequitting unless it was razor-close
what have i become
i'm just trying to make it out of light blue, but staring at that featureless plate with grand master ironically stamped on it has turned me into a monster
what happens when i do make it to green? it will mean nothing after a day or two, green isn't good either
will i duck and quit my way to yellow as well?
i keep telling myself i just want to face better players and learn faster
but if i can't beat scrubs at my own scrub level half the time, what the fuck should i do?
>>182151239
ewgf is frame perfect. there's no shortage of videos about how to do it, so you may want to google. Some tips, the motion isn't f,d,df+2. it's f, N, d, df+2. The neutral is important. Try mentally trying to press the 2 when you're sliding into down.
>>182152386
Lili is amazing and easy to pickup
>>182152402
get good
>>182152402
Shut the fuck up
>>182152402
Ranked is to win, ducking after a win is not bad at all, you won, you got points, end of story.
If I lose to a Hwoarang 2 ranks higher than me i'm not rematching him just to lose free again.
Ducking in player matches with nothing on the line is stupid.
>>182152492
There is no "neutral" on pad, keyboard and hitbox, you just don't press buttons, hence the absence of neutral
>>182152174
All he needs is a small damage buff. He's not really that bad but feels quite unrewarding to play.
>>182152402
It's not about the number plate on the screen telling you how good you are anon, it's about how good you ACTUALLY are. Focus on self improvement before all else, and the ranks will follow.
rematch that Bear that 3-0'd you, play that spamming Hwaorang again and learn his moveset, it's all about learning.
You can do it
>>182152402
Everyone is scummy in ranked, but if you really feel bad about it you could try playing more characters to get used to the matchup
So basically all Dragunov has to do to win neutral is iWR2? Seems pretty low IQ desu.
>>182152372
You're probably right. I already regret that I started learning him and his mist step bullshit, it's not really worth the effort even for the snowflake prize. But that I can't turn back at this point.
>2 of the tekgen discord users made it out of pools in tattakai holland and nobody is rooting for them
Wew.
>>182152625
I'm aware. People new to the game/motion think that you do it like a DP from street fighter. You do not. Was just trying to clear up a possible misconception.
>>182152739
dumb frog poster
>>182151239
do the fastest hellsweeps you can
with the command history on do f, N, d, d/f+4 (no additional forward motion here)
>>182152798
who the fuck cares
you do realize you don't actually know these people right
>>182140359
>>182145616
>>182151753
>>182152815
that's plenty
>>182152386
>become a dragon
Lel. It actually says become Ganryu.
Gotta respect Hwoarang players. Very technical and complex character.
Why in god's name is the online peer to peer?
When I chose 5-bar matches I have to wait anywhere from 1 to 15 minutes to find a match.
And it's not even 5 bars, it's 4
When I chose 4, it's 3
And it's impossible to parry on reaction on in 3-bar matches
Getting to yellow ranks should straight up put all your characters in yellow
Giving me promo matches against a ''grand master'' who is actually Yellow on his main is fucking stupid, might aswell just put an automatic loss on my record
>>182152929
why does harada like ganryu so much?
>>182152921
dumb (you) donor
>>182152908
>Not rooting for your fellow tekgen kin
I don't know what to say
>>182152971
because sumotori are based. watch nagoya basho it started today.
>>182152798
>literally who
maybe you should go suck them off in discord instead attentionfag
>>182152762
Yeah...
One of the most brain dead characters Tekken has ever seen.
>>182152963
I can see where you're coming from, absolutely, but at the same time, if you play someone to yellow and decide to learn someone new in a game like tekken, being put in yellow instantly would suck absolutely massive cock, its much better to start a fair bit smaller and just gradually climb back up, that way you'll cap at where you should be as that character.
>>182152402
I winquit for 2 reasons
1) you lag
2) you're playing in an extremely cancerous way(ultra turtling, Akuma in general, just fishing for grabs with King), to the point where even though I beat you, it wasn't fun at all
I losequit the same reasons as above, but in addition if you're just clearly a way better player with perfect spacing, backdashing, EWGF's, etc, I'm not really going to learn anything getting destroyed in 2 matches, I'm just rank-food for you. You clearly have more experience than me.
That said I never losequit unranked because it doesn't matter.
>>182153016
>fellow tekgen kin
dude there are maybe two or three decent players in this general, a handful of high greens who just went "oh he means me" when i didn't, and the rest are complete trash
you really shouldn't want to fly this as your flag
>>182152963
Just because you EWGF'd your way in with Kazuya it doesn't mean you'll be any good with Yoshimitsu, you'd probably suck dick back to grand master
>>182152934
no you don't
you don't have to respect them at all
they spent 30 minutes tops in practice mode and watched the speedkicks tutorial
Hwoarang is bullshit
>>182152386
>Become a dragon and marry Lili
>Become a dragon
Kiryu confirmed for Tekken 7.
>>182152957
that has nothing to do with peer to peer
>>182153248
Maybe you should also spend 30 minutes in practice mode to finally learn how to fight him
Infinite revenge match is so sick.
>>182153178
In fgg everybody except like 3 people are bad. In tekgen everybody except like 3 people are bad. Is there somewhere I can go where people don't suck?
>>182153020
I was JUST about to say this shit. My boy Takayasu just got promoted. I bet you he's gonna be a yokozuna some day. Kisenosato shoulda dropped out the last tournament earlier instead of aggravating his injury further. That pissed me off. At least Hakuho is back to his old self.
Man I really hope Ganryu, Wang, and Julia/Jaycee return in Tekken 7 sometime.
>>182153479
tz?
>>182153516
Kinda weird Harada dropped Ganryu considering sumo wrestling is like Japan's thing.
>>182152798
>tekgen discord
lmao
>tattakai holland
who?
I can't take this fucking stress of demotion chances. I lost a promo and the only thing I can think of mid match is ''If I lose this will the next match be a demotion''
I wish it would just fucking tell me how close I am
>>182152372
I wonder if Shudy will be playing him at Evo. The last few times I've seen him play Lee on stream, he went on a lose streak and switched characters.
>>182153616
dude I know! Every japanese fighting game has a sumo character in it in some form.
>>182152492
A frame perfect. The actual f, n, d, d/f motion itself? Or the 2 included?
I really like to 100% turtle/counterhit as Kazumi and it has given me success generally. That tournament Kazumi makes me want to be more aggressive, though.
>>182153805
Just the df:2 part.
Have to hit them on the same frame.
>>182153516
>Julia/Jaycee return
I really hope that if she returns in the Jaycee TTT2 costume or something similar we have also the traditional Julia outfit as an alternative costume. Especially since customization sucks in this game. And I wouldn't want to see only the Jaycee costume in tournaments. God I hate that mask.
>>182153756
>all that for 50 damage
>>182153805
2 must be pressed the exact frame you press df
>>182153616
Yeah but it's like he did everything he could to make him unlikable as fuck
>ugly
>old
>perverted
>dishonorable
>isn't even a strong fighter in-universe
Maybe in Tekken8 there will be Ganmi-chan to replace him
anyone got any cool AHK scripts? Im looking for EWGF and korean backdashing if possible.
Anyone got some good easy Bryan combos?
I'm willing to risk 3-4 damage for a combo I'm guaranteed to not fuck up.
>>182154146
kill yourself faggot
>>182154240
somebody shut this stoner up
>tfw this is your first Tekken and you have been playing for less than a month and you are already Warrior
Some people are just meant for fighting games.
>>182154146
reeee
>>182154363
Your scrub character is not playing real Tekken.
>>182154363
I know that feel. This is my first fighting game and I'm a Warrior.
>>182154341
Give me your combos, bitch
>>182154363
You still might be garbage depending on your character and number of wins it took you to get there.
>>182152971
>>182153020
>>182153516
>>182153616
>>182153801
You know serious question here. Who do you think is the best sumo character out of all the fighting games? The only sumo character I like design wise is Taka Arashi from VF5FS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni3Pkxft7Gs&t
>>182153516
>sumo nigga detected
i think takayasu will be solid where he's at but i'm not sure about hitting yokozuna. that would be some crazy shit, but he gets beat by hiramaku from time to time in a way that yokozuna shouldn't.
you're right though, hak looking good again. i hope the young guys like ura, ishiura, hokutofuji etc do well and have good careers. all three of them won today
>>182154363
How many low launchers do you do and how often do they get blocked?
>>182154465
Hello TMM, fanks for joining our fread.
>>182154527
i replied to thewrong post, don't hurt me
>>182154465
>>182154528
Gigas, 150 wins. Are you really going to tell me winning with Gigas isn't legit?
>>182154594
0. They never get blocked because I don't use any.
>>182154363
what character
i have a character at warrior and several in green ranks but i am by no means a good player lol
>>182154569
where do you even watch sumo stuff/learn about the sport?
Playing Mishimas makes my wrist hurt...
Any kind of general tips for Miguel's savage stance? I'm not sure when to throw it out or when it's a good time to hold forward after some of his moves.
My god I have not had a game I won today where the opponent accepted a revenge match. Hyper competitive goons we're only in blues
>>182154363
same except im usurper lol
>>182154731
Gigas is a scrub killer yes. And yes warrior is still scrub ranks.
>>182154569
>ishiura
>ura
those are my two new faves. They are small, but clever as fuck especially Ura. ishiura is a small dude, but is built like a tank and lifts up bigger guys all the time and that's pretty impressive.
You're right about Takayasu though. I feel like he runs out of steam a bit later in tournaments and makes stupid decisions, but he has gotten more solid over the passed few tournaments.
>>182154535
Taka is definitely the best IMO. I also like Ganryu and I adore Hinako from KoF because she's cute.
>>182154776
Take my advice. Don't play Mishimas.
>>182152971
>>182153516
>Ganryu finally got the axe for not being popular enough
I knew this day would come eventually but I'm still heartbroken
>>182154535
it probably is taka to be honest with you. ganryu is a bit of a shithead, E. Honda has dumbass moves, and frankly i can't think of any others.
>>182154742
i watch a dude called kintamayama on youtube. the sport itself is pretty simple, the only thing you'll really have to learn is names and ranks and terms like that.
>>182154984
I don't really play them. I just take them out for a spin from time to time because they're so much fun.
>>182154731
Well, at the very least you're better than all those kids from this thread who pick Gigas just to whine and dodge matchups.
>>182154731
>Gigas
>I don't use any.
Well good job then. However, keep in mind that a big reason for that was you were probably the first Gigas most of your opponents fought. I don't have anything against you but you haven't done anything special.
>>182154742
these are the 3 channels I watch sumo on. Robert Mensing and Kintamayama are the best ones IMO. Robert Mensing's is the most professional. It's the highlights and has english commentary. You kinda learn by just watching it.
https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonsinJapan
https://www.youtube.com/user/Kintamayama
https://www.youtube.com/user/robm999
>>182155142
This is me 99% of the time I play Gigas
>do rage drive
>they take the unblockable
>hmm
>do it again next round
>they still don't fucking duck it
and then you get the guy who just parries it
>>182154957
>Gigas is a scrub killer
Keep telling yourself that. What does he have, a command grab? lol. This is my first tekken, but not my first fighting game. Once I took the time to learn the system, my options, and how to tech throws and block snake edges it was very simple
>>182155458
If you're on PC, it doesn't count.
>>182155418
>how dare they guess wrong on my literal 50/50 ragedrive
>>182155536
PS4. If it makes you feel better I spent like 60 games losing to blue shitters because I wasn't yet acclimated to Tekken gimmicks
>>182154363
good job desu, now make it to yellow so I can finally see a yellow rank Gigas
>>182155536
Played a solid Gigas player today (PC version) in yellow rank. To my misfortune, we were on that stage with the breakable floors and he can break multiple floors in a single combo.
He's also the only Gigas player I've seen so this guy is figuring him out and doing a damn good job at it. Still couldn't beat me but he's on the right course.
Does tekken have a story?
7 is my first "real" one.
I rented the ps2 games as a kid briefly, didn't like them and I don't remember anything. Aside from Paul (because of the hair), some sexy woman and some big dude.
Should I read up on the wiki? I don't wanna be lost, I want to know the general story and the characters. I'm not gonna play the previous games. I tried the first one. God damn it's like finding a petrified turd. Old 3D games have aged so fucking bad.
>>182144173
The best, imo.
>>182155536
just let the guy have his props already, he's being a humblebragging cunt but if he's learned he's learned
Is there any way to avoid akumas rage art because it's complete horseshit
YOU CAN CANCEL PAUL'S RAGE ART
WHAT THE FUCK
WHY DOESN'T THE MOVE LIST SAY ANYTHING
>>182155536
oh no you didn't you cunt
>>182144903
>>182155741
Heat Haze shits on both of these and I don't even think it's used on any stage by default.Also I put solitude as the final round theme in the mishima dojo and it's honestly hype as all fuck.
>>182153756
It really hurts to play him.
;_;
>>182155896
jump
I keep hearing f4 is Jin's best button but I almost never see it used in high level play.
It's usually just ff3 and 4 pressure, ff2 and db 4 with the occasional electric or sweep.
What's up with it?
>>182155898
it's pretty much like his unblockable. you can cancel it just the same.
>>182155536
*ps4
Most input lag plus added input lag from the input devices plus added lag from psn plus added lag from wifi.
You might as well play tekken card tournament.
>demoted to Grand Master
If I don't get promoted back in less 5 fights I quit
I can't deal with the stigma
>>182156086
>>182155740
1. Tekkens story is shit and always was
2. Just watch the endings of every game you can buy in the gallery even if most is not canon or retconned
I get destroyed by every Gigas
He just doesnt make any sense me
>>182155896
jump
>>182156359
Command grab is a 1+2 break
>>182156256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C56Zs4K7IYo
>>182155567
they aren't guessing though, they literally don't know what to do
people don't even duck the 2nd hit of f,f+4,2 if they block it
Just in general people have no idea what Gigas does outside of his 1,2 f2,f1 and his grab
>>182156359
What about him do you have trouble with?
>>182156089
Please respond
>>182156256
Yes, either you jump it or sidestep it
>>182156216
>lose 10 times straight
I don't even care anymore
>>182153516
I sincerely hope you don't think sumo in japan is legitimate in anyway with all that yakuza shit going on.
>>182156516
His moves are misleading, his lows look like mids etc
New to tekken, been playing for about 2 weeks and tried Claudio and Dragunov, had some results with both and around ~50 wins each on quick non-ranked matches, but I don't feel like they're the right characters for me, Dragunov makes me depressed because his best combos/wallcarries need the crouch cancel bullshit, and Claudio is a really good character too but I just got tired of him really fast.
I just want something easy like Claudio, I like Lee aesthetically but fuck me if his combos aren't a pain in the ass to perform.
No bears, please.
>>182156583
it's a good mid and you can do stance mixups with f+4~f
you can combo off of it on counterhit
>>182156620
I don't know. Some people believe it's still influenced by Yakuza, but I don't think so any more. If there are wrestlers throwing fights then they are REALLY good actors. I rarely see wrestlers do the extra shove after a bout anymore.
>>182156616
I've been on a losing streak all day anon and I'm only just coming out of the other side of it but now I'm on 9 wins in a row.
Keep going and you will recover. You can do it!
When I try to KBD the proper way (b,b,db b, db b, db etc) My character does one or two then just spasms in place. The input display looks correct.
However when I do b b qcb b b qcb I can generally loop it a few times before my hand gets tired and I lose the rhythm. What am I doing wrong? Input display doesn't look any different.
>Let's both intro and win pose play out
>Win quits
Fuck you if this is you
>>182156674
Try Shaheen or Bob
>>182156846
Well, more power to you anon, I dropped it years ago. For me its just a spectacle for betting.
>>182157061
hold that L nerd :^)
>>182157061
Seee you next tiiime!
>>182156706
Do you need to do stance dash cancel bullshit to combo off of it on CH or can you dash up after it hits and pick em up?
I tried the latter in training but it feels super inconsistent.
>>182157296BAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>182157348
uh I think after counterhit you can dash up and do b+2,1 bf+2,3~f CDS 3 S! b+3~f CDS 1,2
but when I get the counterhit I usually stance cancel and do CDS 3 S! b+3 b+3~f CDS 1,2
>>182153928
50 is pretty good for a slide punish and the much easier version only does 1 less damage.
>>182157061
>I will fight you... ANYTIME
>refuses revenge match
wtf I hate Bob now
>>182157296
>>182157379
i want lucky chloe to tie me up
>>182157508
I wish his storyline stayed serious. I'm not fond of him being a backup dancer or reduced to comedy.found it pretty cool how shes a cunt outside the idol act. its how most of them act anyway.
>>182156976
b,b,d/b,b,N,b,d/b,b,N,b,d/b...
>>182156621
If you're talking about db 2, I feel like you're right. It kind of looks like his df 2 sometimes. Though, if you manage to block it, you can punish it, probably with a wr 4.
Some of his highs look like mids too, but it's easily telegraphed once you get knowledge on them. His ff 4 1+2 is a mid kick that follows into a high (the 1+2 part). You can easily duck the high and launch punish. Though, a good gigas won't follow up unless they know it will hit or they know you don't know it's a high.
His df 3, 1+2, 1+2 is also a very deceitful string. All three things look like mids, but it's really a mid mid high. The second mid is punishable, I think, and the third high is duckable. You can duck the last high and launch punish too.
Also, if you're ever forced into his rage drive, you have to either duck an unblockable high or block a mid. If you think the Gigas is bad or not that good, duck the first rage drive. If you know they're probably good, then don't duck. An experienced Gigas will often use 1 instead of 2 for their rage drive.
Oh and his 1, 2 is also unsafe. Punish it every time you see it out in the open.
>>182157678
yea i guess im not hitting neutral cleanly if it doesnt come out. it feels like i am though, hitting clean neutrals is really fucking me up in this game super not used to it.
>next fight will be my promotion match back to Brawler
>every single Grand Master dodges me
>>182151302
>it's hard as fuck to tell if she is going to do a high mid or low
Yeah, this never happens in this game
>>182158080
>that horrible feel when you're one match away from demotion and you're refreshing for someone with a familiar character and an unflattering amount of wins
what have I become
How do I stop switching characters and accept that it's not their or my opponents fault that I'm bad at the game, only my own?
>>182159012
meditation
>>182159012
Harness the quan and harmonize your ching and chang.
>>182158746
>>182158080
>>182156616
>>182156216
I made it back to brawler
Last match was a laggy King player, I 3-0'd him
>>182159298
>>182159054
Like Ki charging IRL? Genius.
Did Kazumi win?
>>182159579
boringunov did
>>182159012
Stop being a bitch.
>play bryan
>I wish I was playing jin
>play jin
>I wish I was playing feng
>play feng
>I wish I was playing bryan
how the fuck you pick a main when every character is so cool
>>182138176
nice ass
>>182159012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGh4ZU4H5Hk
>>182159873
Just play them all.
Question about the Asuka spinning unblockable oki setup...seems like you have to make your decision to stay on the ground or tech roll before you hit the ground. Am I right or can you react to any of her options?
Also does spring/get up/kick and roll back beat that setup?
>>182159873
Just play Mokuj- nevermind
>>182159940
I do play top tier, though. It has the disadvantage of me not being able to blame my character for a loss.
And my opponent gets the option select of feeling himself for beating a top tier/blaming my character for his loss.
I'm exclusively setting it to 5 bars only
fuck these wifi niggers
What is a hopkick?
>>182160459
A wonderful thing
>>182160343
I know that feel.
On another hand, do people actually lag switch?
I'll fight since people and it only lags when it's my turn to press buttons or when I connect a launcher but it never lags for them. Just seems weird. Mostly frustrating though
Remember to dodge all kings
>>182160459
a move where you hop forward and kick or knee. most are some variation of u/f3 or u/f4
>>182160524
if the game stops even momentarily, I leave instantly.
lagging fuckers don't deserve points
>>182160004
Yes. It's a tech trap. When you're on the ground or going to be, you should be defaulting to actually picking a getup option instead of just holding back every time.
Spring attack can beat it but it's difficult and if they fuck up, they'll get screwed. So people who know what it is are going to stay on the ground and take the df3.
>play against some dogshit dragunov
>clearly gotten to his rank purely through snake edge
>start blocking and punishing it
>he starts doing some crazy cancel shit into grabs that I can't break
>>182160459
A punishable but very rewarding combo starter. It's the dp of Tekken.
Just had my first enemy rage quit on me. Pulled the plug after getting perfected in round 2. It's a good feeling
>>182160459
A low crushing TA launching kick.
>>182160841
>dragunov
>snake edge
uhhh
>>182160973
launching lows anon
>>182160872
I had one the other night against a Lili that would abuse her low sweep on me. Once I started stepping out of its range and coming back from 0-2 they left
>set connection to 5 bars
>past 3 games have been consistently shit connection
if you play on wifi top yourself
Asuka is one of the safest characters in the game and people complaining about her just don't know how to play the game yet. Don't worry. Tekken is hard.
>>182160538
>had trouble going against king
>figure out they all repeat the same combos and random grabs
>mfw get prefects everytime now
>>182161346
poor console peasants.
>>182161081
just call it a sweep
>>182161428
im on pc
sumo is surprisingly fun to watch, but what's the thing the judge hands the winning wrestler after the match?
What is the equivalent of a dp in tekken?
>>182161959
A hopkick.
>constantly floating between grand master and brawler
>constantly getting shit connections
>constantly getting frustrated and whiffing wavedash inputs
>generally just hating life
fuck tekken
>>182161542
b-btfo
>>182161542
Who the fuck has Wi-Fi for the PC?
>>182160637
so would lars's be u/f+3?
>>182162171
unifags, laptopfags, donglefags
tons of people
>>182161959
Akuma and Eliza's DPs.
>>182162398
he doesn't really have a traditional hopkick per se
miguel, king, shaheen, claudio, jin, feng all have more traditional hopkicks
>>182161353
dumb frog poster
>>182162398
lighting screw isn't quite a hopkick, but it works in a lot of similar situations.
>>182162398
I don't play Lars but he does have a hopkick so that's probably it.
Don't confuse it with an orbital though, which is similar to a hopkick but usually has lower range and slower startup but is safer.
>>182162171
Consolefags that never update their 12 year old laptop.
how the fuck do you punish bryan's ff2?
>>182162171
This has to be the finest meme on the planet. Just as many pc kids on wifi as ps4 kids, makes no difference.
>>182162782
Lmao you're fucking retarded
HERE YA GO GUYS!!! NOW STOP DUCKING MY KING YA PUSSIES!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGHIpohTvU
>>182160459
low risk high reward move
if you're character has one or a df2 launcher they are automatically low iq save a few exceptions
>>182162974
most d/f launchers are at least -14
>>182162974
>djin
>has both a hopkick and a df2 launcher
>is in high iq
I hope one of the DLC characters is Juri.
>>182162974
hi steve
>>182162974
>lee has one
>yoshi has one
>djin has one
>bryan has a df one
>eddy has one
:thinking:
NEW THREAD
>>182163306
>>182163306
>>182163306
>>182162974
Yoshi has both a df2 launcher and a hopkick my nig.
>>182161428
What does WiFi have to do with platform you fucking moron? Neck yourself
>>182162816
FC
sw,ss
or a wall behind you
>>182162696
yeah the reason i asked in the first place was because that orbital heel confused me. thanks
slowly put in work with nina get to marauder can't get past grand master with kaz, god damn bad habits
>>182162974
>steve
>high IQ
What retard thinks he's high IQ? He's literally one of the easiest characters to play, fuck he even had a poor man's side step for retards who can't properly ss