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Neutralcraft Edition

NEW EXPANSION: WONDERLAND DREAMS
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/wonderlanddreams/
OFFICIAL SITE IS UP

NEW GRAND MASTER RANK
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0124

NERFS ARE UP
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance?announce_id=295
>The Shadowcraft follower Shadow Reaper.
>The bronze Neutral amulet Test of Strength.

Official Website:
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Class Usage
Blood 55.4%
Haven 14.4%
Rune 8.4%
Forest 6.0%
Shadow 6.0%
Sword 4.8%
Dragon 4.8%

How many free packs are we going to be getting?
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>>182116870
If you're gonna be an autistic at least have the audacity to post the full image nigger
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>>182117030
At least 5. None if we're being real here.
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>>182117030
wasnt the sample size of this something retarded like 70 players?
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>>182117030
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>>182117030
There's no way this is accurate
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>>182117030
They need to stop introducing overbroken card.
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Rate the expansion, you shitters.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13389776
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Need a concede senpai!!!

90341
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>>182117030
This is actually a good thing. Once they hammer down Blood a bit, we'll have mostly balanced meta finally. Look at the usage rates of all the other classes
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>>182117030
>less than 100 player sample size
This data is useless.
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>>182117462
>This is actually a good thing
Thank you.
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>>182117030
>forest's playrate has surpassed dragon's
>above sword's and on par with shadow's
We will come back. And we are going to bring roaches next time.
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>>182117430
Thanks Havenbro!
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>>182117409
>rate the expansion 10 days in when we are going to be getting nerfs every month and the meta might drastically change
Are you retarded?
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>>182117569
Thats what put you in the trash where you belong to begin with but go ahead knife-ears.
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>>182117602
>can't have an opinion 10 days into an expansion

Are YOU retarded?
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>>182117569
BnB is the future. Nigga too stronk
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>>182117602
>people can't rate things so far because it will change in the future
Either you can travel through time or you're the retarded one here.
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>>182117602
What the fuck are you talking about. You rate it now during the pre-nerf WD meta. Then you rate it again after every nerf wave when things change
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>>182117030
Lies.
WD literally changed nothing. No card can beat Hector bullshit.
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>>182117602
stop posting
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Fushigi na chinpo! Steki na chinpo!
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>>182117807
Que ese
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>>182117807
Ayaneru's dick hardening voice is the silver lining in this expansion. Even if I'm sick of the neutral package her voice is still great.
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>>182117682
I didn't know that roach was responsible for designing cards and balancing the game.
No wonder we are in the shit now. KMR is letting a fictional being work for his company.
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>>182117737
Get prepared for Hector crying again after they sudoku Baphomet. Meanwhile neutral forest and havenshit are sleeper meta waiting to clap buttcheeks as soon as the nerfs hit.
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>>182117710
really nice and all, but what about some Rowen nudes
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I miss Eachtar.
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>>182118026
Eachtar is still fine in a neutral shadow deck.
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>>182117989
Is this what you're after?
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>>182117112
the only thing retarded about it is it has slightly more dragon players but is otherwise identical to my sample of 293 games
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>>182117890
Roach was fired. They shat all over his favorite craft right as he finished cleaning out his desk. There were much tears of disgrace from the roachlings and fairies.
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>>182117030
They should just place Spawn for maintenance then hit it with nerf stick at end of the month.

Removing bapho's enhance will do jackshit since there are two more enablers like key and bander.
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>>182118260
>key
literal meme
>bander
too slow
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>>182118212
Oh, could you post that? More data the better.
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>>182118260
>They should just place Spawn for maintenance
Just replace Phoenix Roost with Spawn. That way Spawn would forever be trapped.
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>searching youtube for elf gameplay
>find out there is an entire channel with just elf decks
>the nip also streams everyday as he tries to climb ladder
I didn't know there was someone this dedicated to playing elf.
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>>182117710
The shading in both images are off, and their bodies look like flabby blobs.
There's really good Forte lewd edits out there somewhere on Twitter.

>>182117989
Never saw any for Rowen. Plus, lewd edits of male characters always have their dicks censored.
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>>182118193
>neutral
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Concede please. 85234
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>>182118202
>you will never hear the dragon's roar
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why the fuck is someone playing neutral blood in unranked
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>>182118202
delet this, dads are not for sexual
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>>182118585
Link?
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>>182118859
Dailies/autism
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>>182118747
Thanks hag.
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>>182118859
Because they're tryhard faggots.

>>182118893
This anon speaks the truth. Anyone still have Rowan's smoking hot wife and daughter.
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>>182118934
He's streaming right now.
>tfw he's roaching people live
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC46722IvX8grn-jkZvr8zZw/live
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WTF IS THIS SHIT

REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>mfw memeing with carabosse aggro in low ranked
comfy
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>>182119180
Post dick.
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>>182119114
Kill yourself, bloodnigger.
>>182119180
Kill yourself, bloodnigger.
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>>182119060
Is his game 30fps? Looks so jank
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>>182119114
I see you haven't bought enough crystals yet
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>>182119316
I think it's due to his computer not being good enough to stream. His other videos look fine.
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>>182119316
he could be streaming from phone too, plus phone sv is locked to 30fps
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>>182119246
It's pretty alright but it's probably just me being in A
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Please concede

63391
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>>182118260
>key
Requires consistent self damage to be efficient, even if they pulled 3 bloodfed flowerbeds on the first two turns, they still need the right cards in hand at the right time for key to be effective.

>bander
Haven't you people learned nothing since white wolf? These rush + last words cards are too much of a liability.

>T7 do nothing
>Worse if the enemy already established followers
>Have to hope that whatever you hit is strong enough to kill you for the effect to happen on time
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If I draw cards when I have 9 in hand, do the excess cards generate shadows or no
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Kripp streaming Shadowverse using Control Sword lmao
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>>182119823
Yes.
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>>182119683
Thanks, cinnamon loli
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>>182119823
Yes. Any sort of discard in general generates shadows.
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>>182119605
Like it so far, I'll give it a shot. Has a lot less removal than I'm used to.
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>9 match Windstream with dragon
>over half of my matches were against bloodniggers
people who complain about blood need to git gud
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Please concede
95946
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>>182119868
WTF Kripp won against neut blood?!?!
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>>182119989
I feel like you need to draw your baphos or early aggression cards for a better time, although I'm not entirely too sure.
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>>182120249
thanks clay golem
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>>182120249
Why won't Cygames give us some cute elves or erunes? There are barely any of them in WD.
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dead game dead general
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>>182120894
seems like your in the wrong general anon! let me escort you too >>>/vg/hsg
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Honestly speaking, this CSword deck Kripp's using is pretty interesting.
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>>182121183
>no albert
So how long until he quits playing the deck from all the loses?
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>play some neutral blood with phantom cat
>literally scared playing any other deck after that because of how easy it is
I mean why should I stress myself with dirt rune hoping for a good card draw when I can just auto pilot to victory.
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>>182121183
It's just regular CSword, what's special about it? Oh, I know, it doesn't have a wincon or White Ridge.
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Need a concede
34113
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>>182121515
He just put down White Ridge. He went in blind, playing the deck without checking what's inside.
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>>182121618
Yeah, I saw the White Ridge, immediately after posting that.
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>>182120874
Next expansion hopefully.
>tfw no big boobs elf
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>>182121615
Thanks clay golem
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>Play baphomet on turn 2
>Enemy instantly ropes
So this is the power.... of blood....
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>>182121925
>play baphoment turn 5
>opponent concedes
Joke's on him, I pulled phantom cat.
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>>182122004
>mfw was running carabosse
>6 PP magic missle winning me games
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>>182121183
Wtf I love Timmy now
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>>182121821
>card is literally called Tiffania
>voiced by Mamiko Noto in RoB
>the same Mimiko that voiced Tiffania in Zero no Tsukaima
So when are we getting a tie-in event with all of the cast?
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Pure Carabosse aggro is alright, fuck neutral
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>>182122665
your opponent literally didn't do anything
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Favorite cards from the expansion?
Mine are Oz, Witch's Cauldron and Master Levi because they single handedly enable dirt rune.
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>32 IPs only
Are we dead yet?
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>>182123207
It's comfy.
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>>182122953
He did play healing angel, i horde'd it
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Someone was asking yesterday why should you play neutral rune instead of neutral-anything-else.

>>182123159
>Favorite cards
Lion of the Golden City. I don't even have one, but I played him once in T2 and it was awesome. He really does enhance the basic mechanic of havencraft. I wish there were more leggies like that, not some retarded bullshit like spawn.
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>>182122665
>Phantom Cat, a gold is a better version of a legendary
What did Cygames mean by this?
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>>182118260
Spawn is not the main problem in blood, it's almost the last thing they should hit.
Big Knuckle and Scarlet need their shit pushed in, Tove needs to only be able to attack when a neutral is played, and Alice needs a good hard gutting. Then reassess the meta. If spawn were able to carry games with Bapho you'd see control blood somewhere above meme tier. Hell, in masters I've been playing and seeing more and more Phantom Cat. It's far harder to deal with than spawn cause we can aggressively evo and have even more board control for free with silly card draw. Spawn feels worse to lose to, but has more weaknesses with the soft turns where it tutors, or is unlucky enough to naturally draw spawn. Those weaknesses just aren't apparent because of the fucking absurd early game provided by neutral and the big 3 above.
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>>182123420
But you can get good card draw with phantom cat and still have Tove.
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What are the cards to print so that forest is viable again? I mean Grimnir killed AE and roach, and there are other wards which are stupidly good too. We need some new and interesting mechanics which also need skill to play like roach too. Any suggestions?
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>>182123159
>3 cards
>single handedly enable
>3 cards
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>>182123580
I could understand dealing with blood neutral synergry but I'm not really sure with BKB and Scarlet. Dunno, I'll have to play around with blood more.
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>>182123830
Board clear.
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>>182123830
Grapeshot
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>>182123580
>meme tier
Fuck off, discord.
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>>182123830
Add 2 0 pp roaches to your gain and gain the ability ignore ward
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>>182124192
>Crimson sorcery (the spell from Levi) is 1PP
>Thorn burst is 2PP even though they do the same thing
Really makes you think.
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Reminder to rope Neutral Bloodwagoners in low or unranked
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>>182124317
It's like Bolt and Searing Spear, but the problem is that we're playing legacy and standard doesn't exist.
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>>182124408
Reminder to not be a D-shift tier faggot and get your games over with.
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>>182124317
>1pp thorn burst and big fat roaches to finish it off
fuck off faggot
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Arisa's command
>3PP forestcraft spell
>summon a rhinoceroach and add a nature guidance to your hand
>enhance (5) then add 2 fairies to your hand and change the cost of all fairies to 0

How does it look?
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>>182124604
I thought Arisa's thing was archery, not tossing oversized bugs at people.
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>>182118026
I'm fucking raping bloodniggers left and right with Eachtar tho.
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>>182124317
>one is legendary
>the other is bronze
Really bursts my thorn
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>>182124824
And you thought legendary would be a better card than a bronze.
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>>182124661
It's her hobby.
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>>182124604
Might as well summon Quickblader.
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>>182121821
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I wish we could get a Neptunia x Shadowverse collab

Vert/Greenheart - Forestcraft
Noire/Blackheart - Shadowcraft
Neptune/Purpleheart - Runecraft
Blanc/Whiteheart - Havencraft
CFW Magic - Bloodcraft
Rei Ryights/Blueheart - Swordcraft
Peashy/Yellowheart - Dragoncraft
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>>182125790
2hu Shadowverse
Blood - Flander
Haven - Reimu
Rune - Marisa
Sword - Youmu
Dragon - Iku (?)
Shadow - Yuyuko
Forest - Alice (?)

Pretty sure Flanders would print money.
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If by the next 2 expansion Cy can not fix this games the will likely be forced to either force reset it or let it die
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>>182117807
nerf when?
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>>182124895
It's the most efficient Roach combo part :^)
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Need a concede pls

90884
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>>182126009
>we are literally printing money here but the game is a little unbalanced
>guess we have to pull the plug
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>>182126581
Thanks Rolandbro
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>should be feeling great about crushing a Bloodtumor
>it's a Vampy playing bats
>kinda feel like a bully
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How about introducing format at September, wipe everything clean except standard set. Do you think the users can stomach it?
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>>182126656
if the trends continue they will just keep decreasing the userbase and whales alone wont suffice
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>>182126581
I want to sniff their socks
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And here I thought Alice was a fuck slob for goblin dick.
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>>182126730
>wipe everything clean except standard set
game needs fix but is not on the point that needs to start back to 0
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>>182126754
Not sure what planet you live on my friend.
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>>182126730
>everything goes back to PtP elf
I'm ready
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>>182126730
>everyone that put money in the game loses everything they spent on it

Sounds like a great idea.
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The best thing about never having spent money on this game is being able to quit with no strings attached
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>>182126840
Introduce multiple formats with separate rankings for each.
Standard - set N and N-1
Legacy - All sets
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>Phantom Cat
>Good
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>>182126840
There was a big commotion when hearthstone introduced standard and wild, too.
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>>182126946
>let's split up our declining userbase! Awesome idea!
Shut the fuck up format faggot.
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>>182126961
great take 2 match anon
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>>182126730
>PtP and D-shift everywhere
Yeah, no. Fuck off.
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>>182126717
>shitting on Urias with Elana
>hes trying his damndest but its clear he bricked
>hes out of evo points with 14 life
>plays his second caboose and passes
>Tenko his face for 12
>"my apologies"
>blood pacts his own face for lethal
I can't do this right now. Hope things will be better after nerfs.
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>>182127138
Front Lines is a Standard card my friend.
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i cant wait for new leaders to be released. when?
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Stop playing Blood
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>you can pay 1PP each turn to mulligan a card in your hand

What say ye? I've gone back to playing Duelyst thanks to WD
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>>182127062
You make a suggestion then. Why are you so aggressive?
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>>182127882
>Duelyst
stop shilling your shitty game
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>>182127998
Why the fuck would I make a suggestion? My point was just that formats is a shit idea
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>>182127882
How can you stomach that art?
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>>182128081
I don't think it's shilling if he went through the trouble of putting the game name in spoilers.
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is there a good liquefy guide?
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>>182128087
You would rather complain but not help improve the situation, regardless that Cygames doesn't read this thread. You can just say 'formats don't work and here's why'.
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>>182128313
>You can just say 'formats don't work and here's why'.
Not when the reasons why formats won't work have already been discussed SO many times in previous threads. Maybe you like sounding like a broken record, but I don't.
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How to fix game:
Goblin Leader: 3pp -> 4pp
Tove: 3/3 -> 3/2 or 2/3, doesnt matter which
BKB: Has to be in vengeance to activate effect
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>>182128514
You forgot Tove regaining can't attack at the start of each turn
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>>182128442
I've never seen a discussion of why formats don't work.
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>blackened, blackened, cudgle, elana, themis
Fuck
OFF
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>>182128130

Each to their own, I like it for the most part though there are definitely some bad apples. Ziran, for instance.

>>182128081

I dropped Duelyst early in the year for Shadowverse since the devs were taking it an awful direction. Now I'm pretty much dropping Shadowverse unless July's changes are actually significant.
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>>182128442
Not him but format was a success in hearthstone. Reno rotating away was a huge breath of fresh air in hearthstone.
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odds games
evens fap
0 sleep
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>>182128462
I want to suck on Erika's vagina.
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>>182128630
I'm not dropping Shadowverse but I'm playing Shardbound and Eternal on the side. I have to say though, that nothing's still quite like Shadowverse.
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>>182128630
Please go back to your kusoge and never come back, you will do us all a favor.
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>>182128514
>Tove 3/2 or 2/3, doesn't matter which
>doesn't matter if it has 3 health
Yes it does matter. Being able to trade into every other 2-drop and lives matters a lot. The card should just be a 2/2 that can always attack, and gets rush when a neutral comes into play.

>Goblin leader 4pp
That's a retarded change. All it needs to be is a one time fanfare effect and it's balanced. I'd rather the card still actually be usable.
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>>182128514
I would make Goblin Leader the same cost and same stats but it doesn't summon a Goblin until the start of the next turn and gives it Storm. Keep Tove the same but 3 cost since it controls tempo so strongly going first right now. Either take out Baphomet's enhance or increase it to 7+.
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I'M GROWING STRONGER
SANIC STRONG
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>>182129073
Goblin Leader isn't problematic because he always leaves a goblin behind, that only makes him a weaker Ascetic Knight. He's problematic because while you can ignore an Ascetic Knight until you have to answer him, Goblin Leader has to be dealt with on turn after or he's way above curve off a second spawn.

Basically the condition in question doesn't mean anything to his play in pracitce. You can either answer him on 2/3pp and he's not a problem, or he's game.
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>>182129073
>gives it storm
No thanks.
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I DID IT!!!!
MOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!
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>>182129608
How many times did you lose to make it happen?
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>>182124604
put 0pp rhinoceroach and 0pp nature guidance to your hand, and we are all good.
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>>182129608
I literally had to google that card because I had no idea wtf it does
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>>182129608
>not tilting hamsa
Do you even meme?
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>>182129608
>>182129829
Why not tilting carrots?
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>>182129696
First try, actually. Lost every game after that, though.
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>played a deck without ward
>fought that faggot who ran roach
Just matchmaking thing.
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>tfw kill B&B with buffed Mountaineer
Neutralfagging can be sort of fun sometimes
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Remember when people actually played this game and posted here? Good times.
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>>182129206
Goblin Leader only bringing out stuff the next turn would be a lot easier to deal with since most players already have some way to deal with just Goblin Leader himself on turn 3. The Goblin he leaves behind is actually a problem since you have to deal with too much stuff if it gets buffed. I'd be fine with Goblin Leader snowballing if left alone since everyone has removal or can just trade into it, but he's really a better version of Ascetic Knight in every way at this point.
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>>182130472
I don't want to ask this, but is something under her skirt or is that just the design
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>>182130504
If he procs on turn start then he needs to give his guys storm or he'll just be stone unplayable.
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>>182120219
>momposting about 9 whole games
how many times did you go 2nd retard. and how about you post deck since you're revolutionizing dragon and solving the meta at the same time
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>>182129150
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>>182128514
are you going to post this crap every thread as a meme or you think devs read it and will listen to you?
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>>182130740
I'd be fine with the Goblin getting Storm. It wouldn't destroy his card concept either.
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43118
Need a private win, please
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>>182131329
Thanks, Vampy-chan!
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they will nerf goblin leader and baphomet not touching tove

screencap it
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I'm afraid we will face the Elana cancer again once they nerf Blood. I can handle the current Blood, but the infinite healing is something even more infuriating than turn 7 20 damage.
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Help me out with a concede please!
13110
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>>182131681
They will nerf ETA and B&B, and won't touch everything else.
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>>182131758
Just Dimension Shift bro.
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>>182131794
Best flair and best sleeves, bloodbro.
Thanks!
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>>182131681
I'm not even sure about Goblin Leader, but I can see his text changed to a Fanfare if they want to tone down the neutral package.
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>>182131912
*emblem
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desu the best nerf would be either alice giving +1/+0 or alice giving +1/+1 to the followers in play only not buffing the hand
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>>182131934
I don't even play him in my neutral rune package anymore. He snowballs the game when you go first because you can clear the way with your 2-drop but is an actively bad card going second. I'm guessing that's why win percentage is so lop-sided.
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>get bloodfags down to 10
>always have fucking revelation
How do they do it?
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>>182132404
heart of cards
lessons given by elite 2 urias
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>>182132009
>nerfing the only method other classes have to deal with blood
Don't even think about touching Alice (and Feria) you fucking faggot.
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>>182132473
obviously baph/spawn should be nerfed too
nerf to the neutral engine will affect all classes
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Remember when we were crying over albert being able to do 10 dmg in turn 9?
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>>182132574
They will just use Bundersnatch to fetch spawn if you nerf baph only. Baph's effect need to be vengeance only.
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>>182129608
Step up, anon
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Would making gob leader cost 4pp and bumping it's stats to 2/2 or 2/3 a reasonable nerf?
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>>182117883
I hope you've fucked off by now, pedo
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>It's not bestiality; it's love!
Uhhh...What did they mean by this?
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>>182132580
how about that time when haven do 20 dmg turn 9
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>>182132913
Emma Watson and the mouse swimming in cash.
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>>182132913
beast is a cuck, he doesn't penetrate her but loves her platonically
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>>182130472

What's there to post? I don't sink a lot of time or more than 20 bucks on this game, so I play a lot of my own custom decks that don't have any Wonderland expansion cards in them. I'm also only B0 rank, so shitposters won't care what I have to say anyway.

I lurk from time to time to save funny comics, and to help out with friend duels for quests.
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>>182133012
Sounds like me.
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>>182133159
>What's there to post?
That's just it, the game is dead. There were a lot of anons that were waiting around holding onto a tiny bit of hope that this expansion fixed the problems of the last one. It didn't Now I barley have to energy to open the client to get my daily rewards and a lot of others have just left entirely.
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>>182132580
I don't remember being a retard, so no.
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>>182133432
Well the story chapters are there. Sometimes they're fun. Potential memes and comics in the works, like with Luna and the burglar.

In terms of problems, it's recently released. I'm sure nerfs will come in like how lightning blast was nerfed. I really fucking hate Spawn of the Abyss though. I came in during the Bahamut expansion, so I don't know what the game was like in vanilla or DE. What are the major problems with the game as it stands now?
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>started playing this game with some shitty control Satan Rune deck back in Standard and gained ranks like crazy because netdeckers and sandbaggers weren't a major thing
>started trying other classes once I had some more cards
>ranking up slowed down considerably
>start shooting up ranks like crazy again RoB thanks to Dirt.
>then get stuck again
>now climbing with Neutral Rune after failing with everything else
I should stop running away from you, bby.
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>>182133807
Standard and DE had the perfect meta. Elf had a slight edge but it was always honest, even before the nerfs. There is always sword to counter them. The only problem was the Elana haven. Even elves had problem dealing with them. It was the original cancer but thanks to everyone's help it was somewhat contained, although never nerfed.
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>when you had multiple ways to lethal that bloodfag, but chose to toy around with the longer route
Is this justice?
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>>182133807
The best deck in every format since RoB is the one that plays the most stats per mana. Daria, Mid Shadow, Neutral blood. I didn't play in vanilla, but DE was the most varied and balanced card game format I have ever besides mtg legacy. Every class had multiple viable decks except dragon that only had aggro. Combo and control dominated the tournament scene but saw very little ladder play. Haven had the most ladder play despite being a bunch of tier 2 decks just because everything else was too hard to play for the average nip.

It was a beautiful time and we were just holding onto the last shred of hope that cygames could replicate it at some point. I have lost my optimism now.
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>>182134109
t. roachnigger
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>want to use the queen in bloodcraft deck but no top tier builds use it

shes so sexy
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>>182134306
Also read "good at card games"
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>>182133951
I want to lick the ridge where Isabelle's thighs meet her pelvis.
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>>182134109
>soccermom on curve 4/5 with Nene~
>honest
Kill yourself, you treefucker.
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>>182134345
>mooooooooooom i can do 1+1 to calculate roach damage
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>>182133951
I climbed from 21'000 points to 28'000 (A0 to A2) in two days at first with spawn and now it takes me a day of tryharding to gain 1000 points.
It's the same thing on a shorter scale.
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>>182134316
Stop lewding Vampy's and Veight's mom.
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>>182134427
>There are still people that think the easiest part of elf is what makes it hard
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>>182134454
if she bore those somebody already deflorated her and she is unpure
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>Dragoncuck bricks as disco
>ragequits
When will they ever learn
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>rarely have mirror matches these days
Finally, back to be comfy craft.
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I don't get why stuff like Aegis or Dshift is allowed to exist. Sure they're too slow for the current meta but they guarantee that certain decks can never be played. They create a hard floor for how slow the game can be played. They're pretty much unanswerable except by speed. That's pretty shitty design.
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>>182134683
What grinder decks are you playing that you want to go beyond turn 10? The only exception is that DShift can be pulled on turn 7 at average, but they literally folds to the current neutralcraft.
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>>182134525
>what is holy vampire mary
>>
Wise Merman's voice is so fucking great. Holy shit!
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Are there any non-dead card games that have a competitive angle that /svg/ can recommend? A game where player skill carries considerable weight as to the outcome?

Shadowverse is my first ever card game and one of the two selling points for me was the meaningfully competitive nature of it. But I joined in when the Bahamut expansion was released, so I feel like I missed most of the climate. Post-nerf RoB was a lot of fun, but I quit playing when ToTG came out and all I played against was 1-drop/2-drop/spooky skeleton man.
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>>182134980
Poker
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>still no interview
KMR please. Get your ass out of there and explain yourself.
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>>182134980
Any mtg format besides standard and modern. You need to put in a considerable amount of money though.
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>>182125790
>>182125931
I'd rather have a touhou collab over meme spouting nepshit
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>>182134980
There is mtg, but it is P2P. I don't know if there is actually another good F2P game.
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>Are there any non-dead card games that have a competitive angle that /svg/ can recommend?
Yugioh,MTG,and some of the Bushiroad games.

>A game where player skill carries considerable weight as to the outcome?
That depends more on the current meta of the game instead of the game itself.
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>>182125931
>2hu
>blood is not Remilia
Anon please.
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>>182135379
>tfw fucked up twice in a row
I will stop doing drugs now.
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>>182135470
>I will stop doing drugs now.
This sounds like a poor idea.
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>>182135428
Most secondaries arent aware she exists.
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>go 1st. Get no 2 drop or worst 2drop I can get even when hard mulligan for it.
>go 2nd they curve perfectly with their neutral shit.
Always!
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Anyone here running a Jabberwock deck?
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>>182134980
Play Hearthstone
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>>182135625
I have a higher winrate going second with Neutral Rune, actually.
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>>182135470
Once you've started doing drugs, you've already ruined yourself. It's a sign you don't respect and value your body.
So yea, you fucked up.
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>>182136017
Are you the guy who writes fortune cookies and the Dalia Lama calendar?
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>>182135625
Play Carabosse
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>>182135625
>worst 2drop
How could that happen unless your deck is not optimized? That said, only in this meta you have to keep a 2pp removal because of fucking tove
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>>182136017
I guess you never consume caffeine, right? Or take medicine superscribed from your doctor?
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>>182136317
>yfw sylvan justice can't kill tove and ETA is a waste when you are only dealing damage to 1 follower
ETA can't always kill tove.
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need a concede, 94366
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>>182136394
What a worthless reply
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>>182136587
eta can kill 2 tove
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Storm haven is bretty fun.
Fuck blood tough and their gazillion fanfare removals.
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>>182136624
thanks isa
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>>182136685
Or a goblin and a 3/1 tove as he traded into your 2 drop, leaving the 3/3 up. ETA is too unreliable.
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>go second against Blood
>have to empty my hand just to catch up
>they still have 5 in hand on turn 7
Fucking Scarlet eating 3 cards on her own is so fucking retarded. Give her better stats and remove the bane. She just does too much right now.
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Need to get 4 dragon wins for my dailies, anyone got a dragon deck that doesn't completely suck in the current meta?
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>>182136957
Play Windmill memes in Unranked.
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>>182137137

Does that actually work decently? Didn't get any windmills and not sure I really want to craft them.
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>>182136957
Put every single meme you have in the deck. One of them is bound to work eventually.
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Spot the lethal
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>>182136896
Nerf Khawy first, until then leave my ginger wife alone
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>>182134841
Why is going past turn 10 a bad thing?

It doesn't have to be control/fatigue warrior of hearthstone, but i've had fun games where someone overdraws too much and i switch to playing a more control type game.
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>>182137286
For who? It's your opponent's turn you mong.
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Can I interest you in an award winning ccg with rich history?
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I want to fuck kmr
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I missed kripp's stream. What decks did he play?
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>>182137871
Stop posting this image. It's such a boner killer.
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>>182136957
I play ramp Satan without sybil in unranked in A3 and it works ok
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>>182137975
you're just jealous that kmr is the perfect girl
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>>182138007
Not that guy, but is it really so difficult to play dragoncraft ranked? I'm doing alright with my old deck from pre expansion, but I have no idea how to change my deck with the new cards.
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>>182138179
I can't really answer this because as I said I'm lacking the core cards for any respectable ramp dragon deck (sybil isra zeus saha) but from what I've seen if you can reach 10PP fast and you drop bahamut you pretty much have won the game if you are playing against neutral crap. Again I'm only A3 so ymmv
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>>182138179
I tried playing ramp and it just sucks in general. The problem of ranked is that you want those nice high win streaks and with ramp that's kind of difficult. When the opponent curves perfectly on neutral you lose, if they drop spawn and you didn't ramp you lose, they drop aegis you lose. Even Elana which use to be a free win for dragon now became a pain in the ass because of Tenko. 3-4 buffs in one single turn is absolutely bullshit. If haven starts becoming more common I will start running csword with roland just to fuck those guys up.
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https://twitter.com/kanashimine

>tfw /svg/ discord leader is dropping the game.
what now.
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>>182138805
Who cares
Fuck off
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>>182138805
Who the hell is him and why does this matter to us?
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>>182138805
I switched to Carabooze and I'm doing fine, don't worry Lelouch
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>>182139063
>play the most broken deck.
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM SHADOWVERSE IS FUN AGAIN.
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tfw phantom cat looks more as a leggo than carabasse
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>>182139145
its aggro blood, not neutral spawn
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>>182139063
>name dropping some random who.
what's this weird obsession, Everyone knows who you are in the shitcord.
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>>182139236
Ok Lelouch
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>>182139145
>reading is hard
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>>182139308
>that deep dark obsession with some random person you keep name dropping.
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>>182139171
Na, the thing she does is very unique and powerful. It definitely feels legendary. Phantom Cat is simply the better card because getting cards and damage now is better in Spawn/Aegisverse than slowly grinding out value.
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>>182139428
Y
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>>182139669
Carabosse got printed to torment the poor players that desperately want to play control/value in this kusoge.
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>>182139145
>Carabosse is the most broken deck
What did he meme by this?
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>raping khawy with aegis

get cucked shadowbabs :^)
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>>182138805
great. now they can work on fucking around some other game and leave us in peace. those guys are game bandwagoners anyway.
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>>182139932
literally this one >>182119605
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>havencancer roping me all the way from turn 1
Fuck you too, buddy.
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i wonder if carabosse is better not in aggro but in control grind decks
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>>182140759
i think shes a card made for reach and doesnt fit control at all
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>>182140674
>plays djanne into 2/4 zombies
::thinking::
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>>182140347
I think it's hardly a deck worthy of being called most broken but hell if it isn't fun and fast,
nearly everyone gets run over except for perfect curving neutral bloodniggers
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>>182140932
I meant 2/3
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>>182140932
He probably didn't have an answer for DB.
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>>182140862
I think she is shit and worse than other options in any deck you can make.
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I don't think I've won a single game going first these last few days.
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>>182141091
How so? I think your deck might be bad, unless you were extremely unlucky.
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E A R T H R I T E
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>>182140973
this deck puts some good pressure on neutral spawn, you deal so much damage in the early game that dropping spawn on t6 is a huge gamble for them
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Is there any usable dragon deck around?
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>>182141279
Pray to mage rowen.
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>>182141279
Don't worry, Dragon will be T1 again when they finally take Phoenix Roost out of maintenance.
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>>182141179
This fucking card. You can't put pressure on Blood. This fucking whore eats up three of your cards on her own. You can only grind them out. So going first is an auto-loss.
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>>182141452
>turn 4 spawn

This can't be good.
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>>182141565
Not to mention that BKB does almost the same thing but on turn 4.
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>>182141565
I'm having 0 problems against blood as earthrite.
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>out of 1000 players 910 reach grand masters using blood

l o l
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>>182141783
I can't think of a single cardgame that has ever fucked up this hard. Even Cawblade wasn't this bad.
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>>182142009
does mtg even have grandmasters on an open ladder
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>>182142009
Yugioh has been like that since forever.
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Does any of you have a good earth rune deck that doesn't run old levi?
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>>182142157
Old levi is your best way to survive early aggression. If you remove him you're unprotected.

Or you could simply replace for Teena.
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>>182142493
That might work, will try.
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It's hilarious how people burn everything on magic illusionist.
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>>182142156
Last time I heard YuGiOh devolve into a meta where everyone are trying to otk you from turn one. Is it true?
>>
Well, if they truly are bent on copying Magic in some way, look forward to Masques/Kamigawa next set (massively underpowered and bland after the huge backlash of the previous block being utterly broken).
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>>182142685
Usually you draw half your deck first, then they OTK you
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>>182142692
And nobody is buying the pack because of that? They won't do it.
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>>182142692
Since we are off-topic, anyone playing Pokemon TCG?
Is it utter shit or is it playable? I used to have an account but that was years ago.
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>tfw the hollow feeling of getting GM by playing Neutral Blood instead of something I enjoyed
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>>182142692
Wouldn't work, this game doesn't have rotations yet so people would just ignore the shit cards and play old decks.
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I feel a little sorry for him.
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>>182141783
I'm on my way using sword, rune and dragon
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>>182141783
Gotta have that GM week 1 so you can shitpost your pet and meme decks as '13 wins* in GM!'.
*12 from neutral blood of course
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>>182143424
The only way I see rotation work right now is they rotate every expansion out except standard right away. Alice has too high of a power level for the next expansion to be relevant unless they are going to powercreep the next expansion too which make rotation meaningless.
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>>182143721
You forgot the part where it "counters" blood. Just use your vials on this deck goy, it's GM viable!
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>>182142009
>Cawblade is not this bad
>turn 3 nigh unkillable 4/4 heals you back
Haha, fuck you.
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do you think the new leaders will be buyable with in game currency
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>>182144307
no
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>There are people in this thread sleeping on carabosse aggro
it's the fast thinking man's deck
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>>182144360
>6PP magic missile
I'm still not sold on it yet.
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>>182144360
Nobody is sleeping on anything Blood. Keep getting carried by BKB, Scarlet and Tove and think you're super special for ending your curve suboptimally.
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>>182143468
He is a neutral shitter.
No sympathy for him. Not even from a frogger.
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>opponent pulls grimnir followed by a young jewish grimnir

Just fuck my face up senpai.

I'm so fucking done with unavoidable burn.
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>>182126840
literally every ccg
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>>182141783
>all those bandwagons
I guess that's how games are. You pick the most broken shit when you are in to win. Fuck fun.
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Why is Vagabond Frog allowed to exist as a card?
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>>182144691
>young jewish grimnir
b-but grmmnir is young and pretty
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>>182144861
Just tribunal, themis, orthrus, lurching, necroassassin bro.
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>>182144691
ToG was where everything went wrong. They need to put all the card from ToG and WD in indefinite maintenance at the end of this month.
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>>182144760
Except three expacs earlier we had more than one deck to be used for winning.
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>>182144925
>tfw dont have either of these
just fucking kill me and all the swordfaggots
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>>182144691
At least you survived turn 6 and not

>golbin > tove > leader > alice lmao ur ded
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>>182144970
Don't be silly, anon. We all know only shadow works in ToG.
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>>182145121
ToG was one expac ago anon.
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>>182144998
Just
>Drop a ward
>Run heals
>Develop the board
>Hope he didn't draw cyclone blade
bro
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>>182137286
0 fairy evo hit yurius
0 fairy
nature
roach 4
roach 5
roach 6

exactly 15 damage
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reminder that if blood is getting nerfed elananiggers will make comeback again, haven got a lot of good cards and sleeper OP, you will soon be bitching about tenko and snow white svg
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Rolled a new account for fun. How screwed would I have been if this was my main account?
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>>182145435
>laddering with the lastword shadow to deal with the blood meta
>indirectly countered all those buffed followers with instant kill
That, and there is Mutagenic Bolt. Not to mention hagcraft dies to B&B unless you have Acolyte's Light.
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>>182145435
Blood or haven, who cares, we would still have a single class meta. It's already beyond saving.
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>>182145650
haven being the meta is a good thing, combo and storm deck will see play again and theres always rune if theyre got too cocky, the meta will be back to DE level again with multiple class in tier 1
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how is this fair
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>>182145941
usually there's a 2/1 bird instead of another tiger :v)
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>>182145941
just mutagenic bro
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>>182145941
That only happens as common as Atomeme summoning. Also, learn to go first.
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>>182145941
You haven't lost yet, he only has three cards left in hand and it doesn't look like he has good draw
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>>182145435
All the elana decks I'm seeing so far are much weaker than current blood.
Tenko is disgusting but much easier to counterplay
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>>182146015
I was dead by turn 6 though
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>>182145941
>not playing magician to contest the board against the inevitable goblin leader
You have yourself to blame. You get mauled even if he played Alice.
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>>182146134
just go first bro
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>>182145878
And how exactly dshift would counter lion haven? Yeah right. I'm okay with elana, seraph, storm, satan, or whatever else haven played for a longest time. Those decks are honest and you know what to expect from them. Aegis is way to uninteractive, but also fine. It's slow as hell after all. Lion is retarded and feels like a prenerf Dorothy.
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>>182145435
I already said earlier that if they want a healthy meta, they should preemptively nerf haven. Now neutral, storm and elana haven are all strong and viable. Nothing can win against them. If they don't do anything it will be a single class meta all over again.
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>>182134109
>best ptp engine in the game
>best legend in the game for 2 expansions
>if you draw circle and AE in starting hand going 2nd you basically win
Get fucked elfnigger nothing honest about it.
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>every class get rewarded for playing cards
>forest get punished for playing cards

Fuck cygames
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>>182146420
Reparations for the 6 million roached faces.
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>>182146485
>can't ward to save your own life
Roach is easily counterable. Why won't people learn.
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Concede please

56112
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Fuck this game
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>>182145941
You have been visited by the high rolling Lion of fairness
Ruining someones day and inconsistent winrate will come to you but only if you post I WILL LIBERATE YOU in this thread
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>>182146263
If there's anything unfair it's rune's turn 6 mutagenic.
Watch it get nerfed to 7PP in the future.
At least themis clears both boards.
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>>182146705
Thanks
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>>182146240
>the biggest problem there is goblin leader
What a stupid post.
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>>182146780
bricc
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>want to play big guy
>literally unplayable with all this anti-Spawn tech and Scarlet whoring herself out to everyone right now
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>>182147180
Big Guy was unplayable since last expansion when it came out.
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I WILL LIBERATE YOU
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>>182147108
All right, let me explain it for you.

>go second
>they play a 2-drop neutral on turn 2
>scenario A: you remove it with a 2PP removal. They proceed to drop Goblin Leader on the following turn unchallenged
>scenario B: you play a 2-drop on turn 2. To protect their leader they will trade into your 2-drop. If they don't, you take 2 damage to the face and then proceed to remove the leader with your 2/2 and remove the 2-drop with a removal.
>if they follow up with grimnir on turn 3 instead, you still can remove him and trade into the 2-drop
>since you go second, you can answer whatever they play on turn 4 with evolve

Of course, this doesn't apply when their 2-drop is a Tove. Fuck that card.
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>>182145941
As soon as blood gets nerfed haven will become the biggest pain the anus.
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Can someone help me with a concede pls
85206
Ty
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>>182147180
it was never playable anon
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>>182147487
That sounds lovely and all, but you know that he needs 4 specific cards (out of 7 to pull that off, right? And that he needs the lion to be in his hand starting turn 2.
>>
50923

Concede please senpai.
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>>182147637
Not just lion but elana got very powerful lately. Also Naoise makes aegis viable. Even storm haven got stronger this expac.
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Cygames just needs to delete Haven as a class and put dimensional shift on rooster treatment if they care so much about salarymen. If they nerf neutral packages and some problem legos(Hector, etc.) it would give incentive to try new interesting stuff out
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>>182147847
>Hector is a lego
But he's just a gold. I know he is a beautiful man, but stop making the same mistake.
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>>182147479
And let me explain it to you.

It didn't matter what he did because his opponent played 13/13 worth of stats across 3 bodies on turn 4 going first and that's an auto-loss situation for most decks in the game.
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>people complaining non stop about spawn
>nobody says a word about 5 stat buffs in one round thanks to this shit
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>>182147971
AWAKEN
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Idk about you guys, but shadow seems broken in T2. The value you get out of some of the synergies is ridiculously over powered.
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>>182148045
Is that a motherfucking jo-
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>>182148052
Welcome to 4 expansions ago, friend
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>>182147992
And if he played his card right, he could deal with both 4/4s and leader, leaving only the 5/5 and a lone goblin. First few turns going second is most crucial and he misplayed that.
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>>182148013
I hate this card. Elana support was a mistake.
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>>182116819
what does orchid has to do with anything?
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>>182133432
The game IS dead. Who in their right fucking mind thought a 'neutral' expansion was a good idea? I'm not even talking from a balance point of view, the uniqueness of each class are totally neutered in favour of the same neutral play on curve shell.
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>>182148052
Shadow has consistently been top 3 among all classes in Take Two since Standard. Just last expansion it was the best class.
This isn't surprising.
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>>182148013
>letting elana has a board
I don't recall they have a 2PP removal with enhance: Summon 3 doge.
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If they want this game to survive they have to gut ToG and WD completely and reverse all the nerfs they've done.
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>>182148389
They have Aria, you can't always prevent them from having a board.
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>>182148293
Everything
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>>182148389
Bird and the tiger. Sometimes you can't remove everything.
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>>182148446
>reverting Gobu nerf without deleting Roach
Just no.
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>>182148446
Kill yourself, roachfucker.
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>>182148453
>>182148472
So it's the turn 2 aria into turn 3 elana and expect your opponent not to kick your shit in?
>muh turn 5 +2/+2 buff
Alice has done that together with Feria.
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>>182148446
Delete RoB as well. All the board clear introduced in it was what turned the game into this.
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>>182148595
Except Alice doesn't heal.
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>>182148680
>2 defense
That's even less than a Draconic Fervor or Sybil. Do you expect to survive from that?
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>>182148740
I want ToG back
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>>182148740
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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>>182148740
>7% Elf
WE'RE DOING IT ELFBROS WE'RE MAKING A COMEBACK
ALL PRAISE KMR
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>>182148740
>elf lowest win%
rip
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>>182148740
>Lunacraft still besting treefucker and dragoncuck
That's surprising.
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>>182148740
At least Forest isn't the last anymore.
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nice
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>>182148740
FORTY FOUR PERCENT
O
R
T
Y

JESUS FUCK
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>>182148896
It really isn't, Shadow has always been favored against both elf and dragon.
>>182148902
They're still the lowest win%.
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>>182148740
W-what the fuck happened to Dragon?
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>>182148740
>forest is at the bottom of the barrel for another expansion
>the nerf hit so hard that dragon is in the dumpster too
Personally I wouldn't mind if they left lightning blast as it is since it would at least make ramp dragon a viable option against neutral and spawn deck.
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>>182148740
>literally going first the meta
Alicecraft was a mistake. They should have known better than to let everyone messing around with multi-buffs before the fucking evolution turns.
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>>182149018
Nothing happened. They're still running the ToG decks.
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>>182148998
*fourty
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>>182149018
Turns out you cannot just ramp and expect to survive when even a lowly goblin has 3 defense. Salamander's Breath is literally Salami breath.
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What shadow deck should I play in unranked to do this without investing any vials? I know nothing about shadow aside from doing ok with it in t2.

Pic related.
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>>182148740
>14% winrate differnce going 2nd
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>>182148740
Oh so it's not just me having trouble winning consistently with spawn when going second.
Fuck this shit.
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>>182148740
How isn't this shit an excuse to kill Blokd right now instead of waiting until the end of the month?
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>>182148740
The difference between going first and second between all the classes is probably more terrible than the 44% play rate on Vampire.
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>>182148740
Well at least it is not as ridiculous as ToG where Shadow has 69% winrate. I am a bit reliefed tbqh.
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>>182148740
Wew, I called that.
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>>182148997
(You)
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>>182148740
This is the ideal CCG meta. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
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>>182148740
>Cygames statistically more incompetent than Blizzard
literally how
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>>182148740
WE AREN'T TRYING TO PROMOTE ANY PARTICULAR CLASS WITH THIS EXPANSION.
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>>182148740

No one has a positive win rate going second. Holy shit.
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It's okay, guys. Shadow players will tell those blood monsters to die and that they don't belong in this world. We got all the tools to deal with an ambush target and the burst to deal with them from 11 defense.
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If you hate Alice right now, you won't like the meta after spawn and neutral nerfs. Elana is like neutral, but way worse. They have infinite healing and draw. With Tenko and free water guy they become even more cancerous. We will see Aegis finally become a problem in the upper meta. If cygames is smart, they will nerf haven together with neutral and blood at the end of the month.
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>>182149470
The only counter blood is blood
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>>182149586
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>182148740
>least played class is Dragon that is still more played than Forest in TotG
>Blood is max cancer as expected but lost some win% due everyone teching against it

Biggest bullshit here is first vs second winrates, what the fuck.
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>>182149606
Elana auto-loses to Dragon Ramp though. So it'll be fine.
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>>182149606
>haven has elana! It's cancer too!
I have fought a couple of those as shadow and I have won them all. I just don't see the deal.
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Need a concede for daily please

95610
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>>182149714
Stop listening to /svg/ meta predictions. They are always wrong.
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>>182149714
You have to understand that not only Elana is the problem. Lion and storm haven are huge problem too.
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>>182149781
thanks Luna
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balanced
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>>182149018
You're with us elves and necro now. Enjoy your stay.
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>>182149606
Elana is inconsistent garbage as always. Just fuck off, ungashitter.
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>>182149841
I have only lost once to a Lion into 2 4/4s board. That is as rare as Atomeme, so I'm totally fine with that once in a while. It's ironic, but I dread more facing le 16 damage craft instead of usual hagcraft.
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Reminder that if blood gets neutered, we'll go straight back to Aegis meta.
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>>182148740
Looks good
Based cygames saved the game
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>>182148740
44% still seems kinda low. A lot of low masters trying to meme it up I guess.
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>>182148740
>Those winrates going second

This game is fucked beyond repair.
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>>182150216
910 out of 1000 that got into GM used Neutral Blood though.
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>>182148740
At this point they should just delete WLD and refund everyone their gold and vials.
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>>182148740
wew

I'm not sure if I want to keep playing this game anymore. And I actually bought 600 crystals for packs.
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>>182150216
> A lot of low masters trying to meme it up I guess.
I'm memeing with ptp elf in low masters. It's not working.
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>>182148740
How panicked is everyone at the SV department right now?
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>>182150239
>let's have a legendary that buffs your board on the very turn before the evo war, eliminating any method for the second player to fight back
I could see Alice being a 5PP in an attempt to fix that, but...
>nerfing legendary.
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>>182150105
we'll be stuck with neutral cancer you dunce
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>>182150463
They're nerfing netural followers also.

After that haven will dominate the meta.
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>the playtest team couldn't see it coming that buffing a 1 drop to the stats of a 3 drop before the other player could dictate trades with evolve would be imbalanced
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>>182148740
we're close to yu-gi-oh meta
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>>182148740
>not even 50% playrate
Guess it's not a Tier 0 deck then
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>>182148740
>>182149470
>BKB is balanced fuck you
>Tove is balanced fuck you
>Scarlet Sabreur is balanced fuck you
Remember guys. They focused on neutral cards.
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>>182150531
Stop blaming the playtest team. It is impossible for them to know how the meta will turn out. After all they are using physical cards to playtest the game.
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When memes collide.

He pulled test of strength i pulled Odin
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>Give full vials for TotG and WD
>Reroll us back to post nerf RoB

Game saved.
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>>182150337
Yeah, this. I was actually saving my crystals for the poll leaders, but I think I'm just gonna uninstall and never look back.
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>>182150663
>no one thought about putting together a deck that curves goblin into 2-drop into goblin leader into alice and didn't find that shit broken
>no one thought BKB and scarlet sabreur mean they could save up EP thanks to the fanfare removals
>no one thought Spawn was fetchable by baphomet

Yeah, those mtg pros. They are really doing a good job.
>>
How many MtG pros does it take to balance a card game?
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>>182150436
I hope panicked enough to push out early balance patch, TotG meta was aids but the decks weren't over 30% of the total played.
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>>182150765
I'd actually like to see how TotG meta would turn out with the Reaper nerf. I think it might actually be enough to even out things somewhat. Though Dragon might become too oppressive in that environment since no board is safe from Salamander's anymore.
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>>182150887
Seven, each dedicated to a craft. Best if it's a playstyle they actually enjoy so they don't feel forced to playtest.
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This game is trying to tell me something
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>>182150990
Ebin beast warrior
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>>182150663
>T1 Goblin
>T2 Tove
>T3 Goblin Leader
>T4 Alice
>Scarlet can trade 3 for 1
>BKB can trade 2 for 1 not locking behind evo point loke Cudgel or Dragon Warrior
Sure thing
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>>182150887
They only have one notable MtG player and his pro career wasn't that long.
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What's the probability of pulling at least one gold (rarity) card from a pack?
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Shadowlog is out. Here's one for all you fucks who discredited the last one (>>182117030) because the gatherer size was small.

Dead game.
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>>182151185
Read the thread before reposting this shit, dumbtard.
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>>182151275
No.
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>>182151185
>haven and rune have tech cards for Spawn
>still sub 50 winrate
What happened?
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>>182151185
>shadow still have positive winrate
They really should nerf eachtar directly instead of touching cards around it.
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>>182151185
You're late, faggot.
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>>182151110
48% I think
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>>182151368
Shadow has lowest winrate going second, so no, fuck you.
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>>182151358
Spawn counters don't matter of you lose turn 4 against Alice curve.
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>T2 Aria
>T3 Elana
>T5 Tenko
Any effort you did in the first 4 turns is moot and now you have a giant ass birds, tiggers, and whatever the fuck else. If you don't have Themis or Muta you straight up die.
The neutral engine is absolutely necessary unless you want Haven Elana cancer to take over the game.
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>>182151358
Who could have guessed that you can't tech against a 2 PP 3/3, a 4 PP 3/4 + free removal, and a 5 PP 2/4 with bane, removal, and healing?
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>>182151506
>T1 goblin
>T2 2-drop (19 defense)
>T3 goblin leader (16 defense)
>T4 Alice (9 defense)
Come again?
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>>182151506
This is less consistent than turn 3 Blood Moon into turn 5 Baphomet pulling Sneks
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>>182151506
Don't forget that if he isn't able to do this he can always just T6 Just themis bro
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>>182151358
Tech cards are a meme
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>>182150337
>>182150805
I wish I haven't alotted so much time in this game. Now I'm deep within that sunken-cost fallacy bullshit that I can't bring myself to quit even when I'm not having fun anymore.
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Why aren't you crushing the meta with seraph bros?
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>>182151602
This is why I said neutrals are important.
I'll take Alice and Goblin spam over anything fucking bullshit Haven deck any day.
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>>182151185
>dragon
>45% winrate

Where's my apology for LB nerf?
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>>182151794
Elana is as inconsistent as always. It's stilk shit regardless of Tenko because having more healing doesn't fix the core problem of the deck.
Just because you lost to a high rolling Elana once it doesn't mean it's good, retard.
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>>182151856
Dragon-san, stop ramping when alice is knocking at your door.
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>>182151506
>3 turns of doing nothing
>3 specific cards played in this exact order or the combo falls apart

The Bloodshitter fearmongering is getting more and more real. Or are shadowniggers doing well enough now that they'd rather see Blood everywhere instead of Haven possibly making a comeback when Blood gets nerfed?
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>>182151856
Poor Dragon, it sucks when Salamander Breath can't save your sorry ass from all the 3+ health goblins raping your ass.
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>>182152048
>posting post nerf RoB and post nerf ToG
>DRK
>>
When are they nerfing blood?
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>>182151946
I really like this inconsistent meme about Elana. To my knowledge Daria and dshifts are inconsistent too.
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>>182152049
>shadow being scared of hagcraft
It's no longer DE. Nowadays shadow has all the tools to fell even a 13/13.
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>>182152269
20 days
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>>182152048
>Surely the WD couldn't possibly be worse than the TotG meta!
>Cygames
>Hold my beer.
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>>182151946
You're correct. The only way Elana will ever be consistent is if they add a below-curve means of accurately fetching Elana's Prayer.

Until then, it's more inconsistent than Daria and not worth playing over the other alternatives.
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>>182148740
low masters not knowing how to play going 2nd :^)
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>>182152285
>DShift
>inconsistent
D rank?
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>>182152328
Just like they nerfed shadow in TotG
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>>182152346
Haha nice joke bro where did you get that one? Mind if I share it in future threads?
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>>182152285
The deck is focused around a single card that cannot be tutored; of course it's inconsistent.

Also, Dshift wins by turn eight 99% of the time, and is far from inconsistent.
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>Go second

Just smash that mother fuckin' concede button.
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>>182148740
caring about master stats when gm exists
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>>182152456
t. KMR
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>>182152285
Unlike Elana, Daria can still be aggressive and win without Daria, because they still have hand vomit, Levi and burn.
Elana can't do shit without the amulet, they can only stall.
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>>182152573
I wish Dshift was more inconsistent of less than 2-3 Levis every game.
Can't tutor him but you can always count on his ass showing up turn 4/5 every single game.
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>>182152456
You mad?
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>>182152437
Exactly. Only D rank would think any of those decks are inconsistent. Stop trying to explain away how powerful Elana is and prepare to get your ass nerfed.
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>>182152605
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>>182151185

Go second, lose isn't even a meme at this point. Those stats are atrocious.
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Apologize.
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>>182152879
it never was a meme
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>>182152954
I'm sorry I thought you were the worst thing Cygames could ever print. I did not realize just how much worse it could be.
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>>182152802
That's because the D-shift has an insane amount of draw power, and can draw nearly their entire deck by turn 8. Nearly every card in the deck replaces itself or draws more cards after its initial effect.

Dshift has always been the greatest cancer of the game, and even now in this incredibly fast meta, it still sees play due to its consistency and draw power.
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The meta is so fucked up that fucking Teena is a way better choice than cudgel.
Let that sink in for a second.
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>>182151783
You go first : you have chance to win
You go second : you'll probably lose
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>>182152841
Nice strawman, D rank. Keep showing to everyone how much of a retard you are for trying to defend the idea of DShift being inconsistent.
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>>182153013
You are forgiven, my child.
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>>182153013
Prepare for next expansion:

Into the Roaching Glass (1pp Spell)
Transform all fairies in your hand into Rinoceroach, then reduce their cost to 1.
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>>182153036
>Neutral expansion
>Card that targets neutral is better in current environment
Really tinkers my thinker dbh
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>>182152285
Rune have a shitload of draw cards card.
It's easier to get what you want when you draw one or two cards every turn.
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>2017
>Playing firstverse
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>>182153036
That's not an indication od the neta being fucked, that just means Teena's 5 damage to Neutrals is more relevant than banishing a 3- defense follower.
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Don't kid yourself Elanafag. Can't tutor your amulet? All of us know you can stall for 1 million turns with all the heals and get the amulet eventually. Once you get elana there is no turning back. You heal and got a big ass board. Things are even more cancerous than Alice because onstead of 3 Alice, you have infinite Alice. Worst part? You have 9 holy water now. Which means you can heal and draw to your heart's content. Not to mention that once Aegis hit there is no way for opponent to win again. Nerf that mother fucking cancer.
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>>182152048
>People will still claim that post nerf RoB was worse than DE
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>>182153371
>t. Ungabab
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>>182153371
>Complaining about a deck that literally loses to Dshit
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>>182153370
I never said the meta is fine, retarded shitposter. The meta could've been the most balanced ever, but people would still play Teena over Cudgel if Neutrals were significantly more prominent than LWs. That doesn't say anything about the meta, that just means people aren't complete retards and know how to tech against the shit they are playing against.
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>>182153293
Oh, I think you've got something wrong here. I don't feel dshift is inconsistent. I am saying it is as consistent as elana. You can draw as much as you want with loads of semen water and you can stall better than dshift because you actually got heal.
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>>182152048
>>182149470
>>182148740
I can't wait for the updated pic of active users!
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>>182153619
Just because you can draw Elana by turn 8, that doesn't mean you are in a fine spot.
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>>182153210
So much angry roach noises. I'm not sure if I'm ready.
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People still playing Temple Defender where every class has 2 pp 3 damage. Just fucking play Grimnir
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>>182153680
The only ones that need to kill themselves are shadowniggers. We will be fine with bloodfriends after this month.
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>20 more days of this meta

This game is going to hemorrhage players. And even then if those nerfs turn out to to be just as shitty as totg's shadow "nerf" the game will have to go through another month of neutal blood.

I have literally ZERO faith in Cygames to fix this shit. I suppose i'll just do my dailies, collect enough points for the monthlies, then sit back and watch the train wreck.
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>>182152048
Post-nerf RoB confirmed for best meta.
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>>182153938
I am still mad that shadow only got a slap on the wrist for the atrocities they had done.
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>>182153619
Elana is only good if you draw it very early.
Using water before elena is no good, because you do nothing, while rune spellboost allow her to drop the pp of some of her cards, and fill the board at turn 4, even without daria or Dshift.
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>>182153938
I bet my ass they'll do some minor nerfs and the meta will stay the same. Just like ToG.
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>>182154035
>Daria Boardflood
>T9 10 face damage
>best meta
You misspelled DE, anon
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>>182154051
Yea yeah. Pretend you don't have amulet and follower to play before you got elana. Don't think you can fool anyone here. Dshift with all 3 dshift in opening hand is easier to deal with than elana with elana out on the field at turn 6.
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First person to concede to me will go first in all of their ranked matches

68301
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>>182154051
>what is snow white
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>>182154035
You mean pre nerf RoB. Also DE and pre nerf standard are pretty good too.
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>>182153807
No need to wait. Here you go.
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Neutral cards should have stayed fucking neutral, making cards that synergize with neutral cards or check for neutrality is retarded. Neutral cards should be cards with really basic effects that anyone can use, but that can be easily outvalued by craft locked cards when they use their own gimmicks (necromancy, overflow, spellboost etc...)
Instead this expansion we got neutral cards that have effects as strong if not better than craft locked cards, and cards that have incredible effects but only if you focuse your deck on neutral cards. What were they fucking thinking? And more importantly: how the hell are they going to fix this? Are they going to make an anti-neutral focused expansion? Is every new legendary going to be spawn level if not worse? Just a couple nerfs won't save the game. Actually, I don't even know where would I start nerfing.
WD is a disaster. I would have never imagined it, but eachtar and saha-baha-zell weren't that bad compared to this.
I refuse to believe next expansion will be worse. It's physically impossible.
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>>182154369
Onegai somebody ;_;
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>>182152842
Truly the stuff nightmares are made of
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>>182154716
>>182154369
Thank you, bloodfriend
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>>182154606
It actually rebounced. Also the nerf at RoB is unnecessary and ineffective. It didn't stop the decline and robbed away fun from the game.
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>>182154267
>>182154494

> You can draw as much as you want with loads of semen water and you can stall better than dshift because you actually got heal.

Of course, if you have perfect draws, you win.
Otherwise, you lose.
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>>182154959
>Of course, if you have perfect draws, you win.
>Otherwise, you lose.
Sounds a fucking lot like Alicecraft. Kill yourself, cancer.
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How do we fix Scarlet?
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>>182154690
Give every player 30 hp, this is where i'd start nerfing.
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>>182155154
The proper thing to do would be to get rid of one or two of its effects or increase the cost.

The Cygames thing to do would be to give every class access to a better version of the card that costs less.
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>>182155154
Make her unable to target face.
Make bane conditional.
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>>182155195
That would make haven and dragon way too strong tho, and what should they do with blood?
What they should do is give every crafts different starting health
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>>182155154
>Target only followers, 3/3, bane -> 4/4
or
>Remove bane, target only followers, same stat line
or
>Remove bane, 3/3 -> 4/4, can target follower/face
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>>182154951
Deadcat bounce. The majority of those are either new players, or players returning after the awful totg meta to see if this one was worth playing. It'll probably start declining again.
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Explain why wards exist when everything just goes over them or flat out kills them as a part of aoe while hitting face.
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N-Need a concede, please!

75321
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>>182155195
Thank to aegis being a shit card this would make this deck invincible.
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>>182154690

>I refuse to believe next expansion will be worse

well, we were saying that about Tempest and look where we are now. IMO, Cygames can't fix the problem they've created with just a few slaps on the wrist (what they call 'nerfs'). In an ideal world, they'd delete Wonderland and go back to the drawing board, because from now till the end of time neutral focused decks are the only way to go without some serious fucking powercreep.
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>>182154606
If within the next time it fails to raise above the 350-400k region it will follow the decline and eventually die.
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>>182155154
There's nothing broken about her though.
Maybe change the burn to follower only.
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>>182155596
thank you hag-chan
>>
So, let's be honest. What are the risks of giving this guy who's abusing the crystal system my money to get cheaper crystals?
I've heard plenty of people say he's legit, so I'm not too worried that he'll run off with my money.
What I am concerned about is getting my account b&. Do you think Cygames trace IPs for purchases and will ban everyone who got their crystals from this guy at some point?
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>>182155728
>Defensive stat line
>Unconditional Bane
>Unconditional 2 dmg reach
she's a DoD who can potentially hit more than one thing and leaves a body on the board
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>>182154690
Neutrals are essentially the exact same thing blizzard fucked up in MSG with the gangs only since SV essentially only has one neutral tribe it's more exacerbated. There were already warning signs in TotG with grimnir, a 3 drop that not only was on par with every other class' 3 drop if not better but completely outvalues them lategame too. The whole neutral package requires more commitment but it's still strong enough to be viable and even worse is that new players are incentivized to craft/reroll for it since it's the easiest way to complete dailies without a large collection.

I don't think any amount of nerfs is going to fix all the problems WD has, the best I'm hoping for is a meta that's in as good if not slightly better state than pre-nerf TotG. We probably need to wait until the next set for big change to happen.
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>>182155798

How to get cheaper crystal :
install steam, buy crystal. They are less expensive than in ios/android.
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>>182155798
They've banned people for exploiting free things in GBF. I wouldn't try it if I were you. They even banned people for the chinese packs
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>>182155154
Increase her cost or reduce her statline to 1/2 or lock one of the effects to evolution and make it so she doesn't get any stats out of it or lock one or both her effects to vengeance.
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>>182155974
Source on the chinese packs? I can't imagine why they would do that when it's clearly not an exploit.
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>>182155974
> They even banned people for the chinese packs

I did it and I am still fine.
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>>182155974
Bullshit, do you mean the packs you get for changing the language to Chinese? Literally everyone has done that
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>>182155854
Also, she heals.
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>>182155974
>They even banned people for the chinese packs
no they didn't
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So friends, post the stabilised WD tier 0/1 decks NOW, it's fucking tim
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>>182156446
3x Alice 3x Spawn 3x Tove 3x Baphomet 3x Goblin Leader 3x BKB 3x Scarlet and hit that mf auto button
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>>182156446
Kill yourself brooding bandwagoning bloodnigger netdecker.
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>>182156446
IT'S FUCKIN'
TIEM
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>>182156643
Yrah, fucken time.

>>182156623
How do it auto Oz?
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>>182155950
Nah, there's some guy who apparently cheats the system to get you like 5x the crystals. I've heard people talk about him here before
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>>182155854
DoD immediately kills something, you'd need to evolve her in you need to kill that turn with her bane.
She also can be cockblocked by wards.

Everyone know people are only complaining about blood cards because of Spawn.
Every other craft have good/great cards that could be "fixed" too.
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>>182150826
It may seem strong, but when you start playing with it, you'll find that it's not the case at all.
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>>182155974
>They even banned people for the chinese packs
niceme.me
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>>182155798
The guy isn't abusing the crystal system, he just buys more because his currency is absolute trash compared to dollars
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>>182148740
L O L

Asians can't balance online multiplayer games for shit, this is the last time I fall for the meme
>>
>mained dragon just before TOG hit
>couldn't play long enough to enjoy dragon being OP for once
>come back
>dragon is shit again

o-okay
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>>182155798
Think of it this way.
If you travelled to his country and bought the packs there, then moved back to your country, would you get banned?
The answer is no, you wouldn't. The IP doesn't even matter, what if the computer he's buying from is actually a shared computer, like in a lan house or something?
Also, I'm pretty sure Cygames has things more important to worry about than losing some pocket money due to currency conversion rates.
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>>182150826
>>no one thought about putting together a deck that curves goblin into 2-drop into goblin leader into alice and didn't find that shit broken
They probably knew, it's "balanced" if everyone has access to it.
>>no one thought BKB and scarlet sabreur mean they could save up EP thanks to the fanfare removals
So blood can't have good cards now?
>>no one thought Spawn was fetchable by baphomet
The biggest blunder and the biggest reason for the above complain.
Nothing to defend here.

>>182157170
Two months wasn't enough?
If only you have played in the set before ToG, Dragons is actually the best hard counter against Daria.
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>>182157376
>So blood can't have good cards now?
Kill yourself faggot
>>
It's honestly hilarious in a way that they somehow managed to make something worse than ToG. Like, holy fucking shit, the level of failure to make things the way they are right now is incredible. The worst part part about it is, is that things are probably only going to get worse since it really seems like Cygames doesn't know what they're doing, "MtG Pros" or not.
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>>182156983
>>182157309
Oh really? You would think that Cygames would make sure to charge people approximately the same for packs no matter what currency.
Come to think of it, I was talking to someone who lives in the same SEAmonkey country and they said they still gave this guy money to get them crystals.
It must be more than just the currency. There must be some abuse.
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>>182157170
>dragon and sword main
>dragon is unplayable as it lacks early game and gets raped by neutral on curve
>sword is playable but only the neutral variation
>even the best neutral sword doesn't hold a candle to neutral blood, losing even to meme variations like carbosse
>control suffers from the same problem as dragon without cure and removal

Being forced to either play unga or heal scum haven is so boring. I'm tired of ranked already, my meter doesn't go up one bit.
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>>182157710
They do know, they just don't care since people will keep giving them money anyway, that's how all mobage developer think.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdnsMbnDF0I

I thought Aegis was supposed to be immune to all card effects?
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>>182157931
You lack devotion. I am a forest main and I will ever play anything other than forest in rank.
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>>182158114
READ NIGGA READ
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>>182158114
For the same reason why piercing rune cost is increased to 2 if you evolve Oz.

The chimps at cygames can't program for shit.
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>>182158390
are you dumb or jus tpretending?
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>>182158368

>Can't be affected by any other card's abilities except for those that change this card's attack or defense

Explain?
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>>182158114
Effects only works on the field unless said otherwise, try thinking for a bit.
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That feeling when you cuck a bloodfaggot.
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>>182158539
Aegis wasn't supposed to be affected by this dumbass.
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>>182158114
Aegis' effect works only while its on the battlefield. Is this your first ccg?
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>>182158673
he can drop another one and win do you know?
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>>182158581
It's effect only takes place once Aegis is in play.
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>>182157736
he probably works for some store selling google cards then, what can i tell you
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>>182158673
?
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>replace card
>get the same one
What did cygames mean by this?
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>>182159004
This happens too often.
I wish they would fix their shitty shuffling algorithm already.
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>>182145435
Elana has a shit ton of counter techs. Hell, there's a new sword bronze follower no one uses that can destroy amulets on evo on 6. That would destroy elana the turn after Tenko, so it would probably be fine. And sword is like, one of the weakest crafts to Elana.
The moment Elana had a meaningful pie of the ladder the counters would come out and demolish it. Not to mention the hard autolosses to dragon.
The elana decks that run aegis are pretty annoying, though.
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>>182159004
>replace my only animated copy of a card
>realize i got the same fucking card because it's animated
X-files tier mystery right here.
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>>182158778
>Turn 6
>Another one
He dies to Eachtar next turn
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>>182159004
Probably they wanted to emulate physical card games where you shuffle your hand into library and then draw a new one.
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>>182144946
I wish I had started playing in Tempest. Maybe then I would be okay with this shitfest. I miss DE. I'm tired. My feet hurt.
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>>182159454
Not really
>drop another one
>evolve it
>attack with both
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>JP streamer playing Ginger rune in GM
absolute madman
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>>182159574
He can't drop another one
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>>182159574
>>182159454
nvw I remembered its orignal cost
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>>182159619
gimme
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>>182146042
>That only happens as common as Atomeme summoning
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>>182159619
He's already GM. Why would he care if he loses all day to blood?
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>1 (ONE) out of seven crafts has over 50% playrate
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>>182159481
>not copying games where you place the cards at the bottom and draw without shuffling
Cygames is really dumb.
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>draft shit sword deck with only Cinderella and Roland as legos and no bombs
>manage to grind out a blood deck with DAO and Zeus
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>>182159619
Oh shit, your followers can go face if Ginger dies before you play them?
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>>182159619
The other day I was matched to a GM with 8244 MP playing Forest. Some people seem to stop caring about scores after getting the rewards.
>>
Can someone tell me what is the range of score you can lost and gain in AA? I am A rank shitter who is climbing, just want sone heads up.
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>>182161070
I got matched to a guy with GM sleeves and 4k points already.
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Spot the lethal.
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>>182157736
There's definitely abuse because I know the crystal store converts the price to the equivalent in your currency.
Look at it this way; You're still paying for crystals with actual cash except you're handing it over to some fuckass seamonkey instead of rightfully to the devs.
If I was going to cheat the system I'd look for a way to get crystals for free.
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>>182161305
insight > insight > insight > blader 2x, use swords for free and drop last blader
>>
So I've been away for a good week
What I miss?
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Is Seraph pick worthy these days on T2? The games are faster and skipping t8 seems like an autoloss.
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>t8 neph
>no morde
>t9 neph
>no morde
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>>182161389
>What I miss?
54-55% bloodcraft usage in ranked
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>>182154951
>and robbed away fun from the game
Guaranteed Roach OTK at T7 was supposed to be fun?
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>>182161394
Grail is better in t2.
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>>182161394
You can easily go long in T2 still if you draft for it and neither player hits Spawn.

Though I find I tend to see one in every run.
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>>182161423
I suggest you to replace Neph with Dark Alice in your deck, shadowafricanamerican.
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>>182161568
>shadowafricanamerican.
RACIST DETECTED
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35042
Concede please.
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>>182161394
Tough choice but win cons are kind of important to draft in T2. I'd go left.
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>>182154254
>DE
T7 6 damage to your face AND followers. How is that any better?
>>
>bottom of the barrel sub 1000 MP
>don't want to play blood
How do I farm for those GM sleeves?
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>>182161423
do you... not have an 100% chance of pulling Morde?
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>>182161475
Fun for me. Also it was not guaranteed just to remind you that.
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>>182161665
Thanks.
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>>182161394
>The games are faster
Not really, no. Seraph has always obviously been a slow card in T2 anyway.
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>>182161742
I had 1 thing on the board in both cases. I'm running 2/4/6/7/8
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>Always wanted to play storm haven
>Got a Moonbunny just as she became irrelevant
Damn it.
>>
Need a concede, 43527.
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>>182161474
>40% bloodcraft usage in ranked
Fixed.
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>>182161961
Thanks Vampy.
>>
>make a forest deck
>lose to a faggot dirt rune deck running 3 mutagenic, 3 caprices and 6 levis plus olivia
>lose to neptits
>lose to csword
This is why people play blood. Everything else is cancer. Blood is the cure for it.
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If they nerf Scarlet, I'm going to riot. I'm tired of getting nice things slapped out of my hand because of netdecking faggots and the asspained niggers they shit on.

Finally have a card that I'm real fond of in blood that isn't cancer, made unplayable by cancer or require me to have a foot in the grave to get use out of and I refuse to have it taken from me.
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>>182161207
Anyone, please?
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>>182162253
Yes bloodfag, blood never ever had good cards until now
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>>182162253
Scarlet is powercreep in person retarded.
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>>182162253
Same. Been a masochist maiming CBlood since DE with furiae win con

And I refuse to let these shadowbabbs take a meta where blood is a Lang away from me
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>>182162253
>Finally have a card that I'm real fond of in blood that isn't cancer
Sabreur literally doesn't have a single weakness, there is no reason not to put her in every single decks for the next upcoming expansions if she doesn't see change.
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>>182161207
+100/-100 against someone with same/lower rank
+150/-70 against a higher rank
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>>182162496
her weakness is being a bloodcraft follower, thats why some lists use hector over her
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>>182162534
So exactly the same as A rank? Well the climb shouldn't be harder than now then. Thanks, anon.
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Sabreur is a good card because it allows me to kill unskilled players like the lunapedo in this picture despite using his reddit spell of free wards and shadows hopinh to drop his discord man of free heals and removal.
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>>182162253
>Stats of 4pp follower
>Vampiric kiss effect (2pp spell)
>Except it's better because it can also go face
>Also bane because why the fuck not, gotta make sure it trades 3 for 1
Balanced as fuck
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>>182151185
>literally nothing has 50%+ winrate going second
UH SHADOWBABS?
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>>182162249
>get countered
>everything that counters me is cancer
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>>182162824
>abhorrent post
>blood

like clockwork
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I remember one granfag telling us months ago that our game was doomed as soon as KMR came in, dude was a fucking prophet
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>>182162965
>self reported figures on Shadowlog
Don't fall for the memes, anon.
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>>182162253
>trades 3 for 1 with an evolve or 2 for 1 without an evolve
>potential reach
>heal
>hard removal
>not cancer
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>>182163132
What does KMR do?
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>>182163160
Are you a fucking woman? First you tell me to listen to shadowlog and now you tell me to ignore it. You have a fucking vagina or something?
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>>182163132
>as soon as KMR came in
KMR has been with Shadowverse since the start you ignorant shit
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>>182163178
>potential reach
Why do cards like young levi and her also hit face to begin with? Lesser cards with weaker effects don't. It's just further powercreep tot homogenize everything into "hit enemy" as opposed to balancing strong effects by limiting them to "hit follower".
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>>182163212
KMR
Neutral Legendary
1pp 1/1
Fanfare: Destroy Shadowverse.
Last Words: Deal 6 damage to the enemy leader if Ambush is active for this follower.
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>>182163132
>>182163321
Didn't they swap directors halfway with granblue?
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>>182163295
>Implying I was the anon who posted that pic
/svg/ is not one person. 4chan the hacker is though.
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>>182163497
Is your pussy wet right now?
>>
>>182163321
He isnot the original director
>>
Reminder that they are not going to touch the neutral package, that would be an act of self-humiliation
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>>182163497
XDDD I ALSO LOVE THAT MEME
>>
WHERE'S DARIA I WANT TO PLAY RUNE WITH A GOOD LEADER REEEEE
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>>182163728
Oldman is a good leader. Beards are hot.
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>>182163728
>giving Cygames money after these two shitshows in a row
For what purpose? This game is dying.
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>>182163728
>not liking beard bro
You gay af nigga desu
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>>182163963
Weeb consumercucks don't care about game balance. As long as as it has waifus and muh seiyus, they will eat that shit up.
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>>182149095
http://grammarist.com/spelling/forty-fourty/
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>>182163728
Good gaijin
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>go first
>win
Feels good to be skilled.
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>>182163695
Nah, they'll nerf some toys such as Ferie.
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>>182163728
>daria
>good
lole
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>>182163963
>tfw this is true
I have had to stop myself from whaling this set since I know the ship is sinking and fast. Probably the reason why they finally decided to let you get seer's globe as a last attempt to catch whale money
>>
Anyone got a non-meme dragon deck? I just want to climb to GM with my favorite craft but my old decks feel so weak
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>>182162824
>reddit spell of free wards
>6 mana + shadows
>reddit removal of wards
>3 mana


Bloodniggers complain about the dumbest things
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>>182161859
>running 5 follower costs
>playing Nep with something else still on your board
>being somehow unable to remove said thing on your board
You need to fix both your deck and your choices
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>>182164330
You can't climb when
>Alice
>Spawn
>Sword
Exists
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>>182164065
>Weeb
>Waifu
>Seiyuu
Pick two.
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>>182164348
>3
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6 DAYS UNTIL NEW LEADERS ARE REVEALED
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>>182164456
>Sword
A rank?
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fucking motherfuck

is there any forest deck that even stands a chance against spawn?
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>>182164330
You can't.

Neutral Blood is a midrange deck that beats both aggro and control decks.
>>
You must forgive me.
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>>182164612
who gives a fuck

ded gaym
>>
Does this game have any girl (male) characters?
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>>182164691
Win two swords, three havens and then just one forest.
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>>182161698
>WD
>T6 unavoidable 16 damage to face
uhhh shadowbabs???
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>>182164670
Council of Broken Knights
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32963

can i get a concede?
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>>182164897
Yeah, A rank.
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>>182164847
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>>182164691
Like all forest decks you need to be good or it falls apart. Doing well in masters with this net deck I got.
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>tfw you drafted corpselord and he won you 4 games
I never imagined he would be this good in T2.
Free face damage or removal if they don't take care of him.
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>>182164921
thanks carabosse!
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>>182164987

> neutral b&b wolfbolt

looks like hot garbage when you're dead on turn 7 anyways
>>
>>182164987
Garbage
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>>182164871
The counter for Spawn is Alice or average neutral spamming. Avoid revelation by not lowering their defense to 10 before turn 8 and win in the next turn.
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>>182164691
Blood beats everything right now, so no.
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>>182164987
>sektor
just use fighter if all you want is a 2/2 do nothing
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>>182165241
>counter for spawn

o

i am laffin'
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>>182164943
Keep telling yourself that, reddit swordbab.
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>lost to 2 enhanced Grimnirs in a row in T2
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>>182165241
Yeah, except they also run the same neutral spam much more effectively
>just play around vengeance bro
D0?
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>>182165312
sektor gets his procs fairly often with hector and arriet
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>>182165352
>>counter for spawn
Snowman
Rat
Good Haven players
Go 2nd
Mirror
>>
New
>>182165528
>>182165528
>>182165528
New
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>>182163490
No. Kimura was always there from the start.
>>182163573
Says who? He's one of the directors.
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>>182165514
>counter for spawn
>go 2nd
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>>182165401
The early curve is a natural force, it's your duty to deal with it every and any match.
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>>182165514
>spawn has a counter
>literally no crafts besides blood has a winrate over 50%

:thinking:
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>>182165625
Woops :^)
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>shitters on other sites unironically complaining about storm haven
We have reached an all time low of retardation
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Concede pls

29310
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>>182165916
probably bloodfags deflecting just like shadowniggers used to deflect
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>>182165082
Corpselord is nice if you can evo him aggressively on an empty board.

For 1 evolve and 6 shadows you get 3 4/4 bodies.
Good luck removing that.

He's not amazing but i rather like him.
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>>182166069
Are you there, bro?
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>queue into unranked
>gm player
The animated sleeve isn't as cool as I was expecting.
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>>182166315
Sorry for the wait, i was browsing this page, and god no sound.

Thank you.

Also got disconnected just after the match.
Hope you didn't want to get a concede too.
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>>182166607
No problem. Hope you get good pulls with those rupees.
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>>182163728
Pascale/Pamela is superior in every way.
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Really don't understand why some complaint about Elana.
The last time I lost Elana, I bricked and have no cards for 3 turns.
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>>182166447
I'm only using it for Elf decks because it's green and has roses on it like B&B.
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