/owg/ – Overwatch General

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Here comes T.Racer!

>>182087409

More like Gaycer

>>182087409
btfo yet again

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Cutest and best pairing

>>182087409
YAMEROOOOOO

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c a s s e r o l e

>enemy team has PharMercy duo
>they are destroying us 0:2

Such is life in silver.

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>>182087587
It's fine, she got better!

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>>182087551
>mei
>poo witch
>roadhog
Ships are shit but junkrat's are on a whole new tier of shit

With the amount of bugs being found, I have serious doubts about Doomfist coming out next week. Probably a similar amount of time to Orisa's extended stay on PTR.

do you guys think they will nerf defense matrix?

>>182087276
Loli Zarya skin when

>>182087614
>silver
why not just go bastion and melt them?

Consumerism at its finest when you crave more new content just as new content was just dropped.

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How is everyone doing ? Playing a lot of tracre lately, she's so fun

>>182088091
Forcing myself to play competetive with this shitty meta, because I need golden fist for my new main.
feelsbadman

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So what Doomskins are you hoping for, anon?

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>tfw still no casual skin for Bloo

>>182087779
I doubt he was ever scheduled to come out sooner than the 25th.

>>182088185
why the fuck would you main doomfist ? Do you hate yourself ?

>>182088227
preferably one that makes him look not stupid. Anything without the "africa" look. Like any kind of cyborg or modern nigerian will wear anything like that.

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Usually when a new hero hits we get a comic. Maybe we'll get one later this month?

>>182088227
Kind of hoping for a fiddler crab skin due to the fact they both have one big arm.

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>>182087786
Hopefully. After that I can finally stop playing the game, because my waifu will be completely useless.

>>182088437

Doomfist is fun.

>>182088437
Because it's fun to punch people.

>>182088227
Minotaur helmet

>>182088227
Doomkid. Make his gauntlet arm into a giant cast and make him look like a stretched out version of the reveal trailer kid.

>>182088227
junker skin is a must

>>182088437
he might not be meta changing but hes genji 2.0

>>182088567
she'll still be good for a pump and dump

>>182088727
That'll probably just be a spray.

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>>182088549

>>182088786
>Junker Doomfist
One step closer to the full Junkteam. We'd have then what, one Offense, one Defense, two Tanks, one Support? Am I forgetting anyone?

So many shitters today.

>>182087786
if anything dva might get a long range option. not to end her DM but to make her viable in barrierwatch.

i wont be surprised if it were designed to let her finish enemies, so its like a explosive round or maybe a missile

>>182088227
Hellboy
G-Virus Birkin
Captain Falcon
Edward Elric

>>182089001
My nigga Kingler KILLING IT

>>182088786
He's discount Genji.

Only reason they haven't released the other skins is because the legendaries are the other two Doomfists, leaker anon who got everything Blizzard did over the past month, even D.va statue and that Doomfist would have small red "motifs" on his basic skin right said so.

>be me
>be literal crippled retard
>800 SR

feels bad man
i wish i would have a normal brain and body
but instead i am human trash

kill me!

>>182089268
just play symmetra

>>182089174
He's Genji if you exchange a bit of effectiveness for a lot more fun.

Plus, they fill different niches. Doomfist is better in Triple Tank, Genji is better in Dive.

>>182089268
or just play mercy

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>Doomfist is now a defence/support and grants a shield to his nearby allies when he use his abilities
Is he fixed now?

Tracer has 150HP, because of her limited horizontal mobility and an ability that heals 100HP at best on an 11 second cooldown

Genji has 200HP, infinite vertical mobility, two abilities that deal damage or disengage with low cooldowns, no need for aim to achieve eliminations, an M1 and M2 option, and a high impact ultimate which can be charged playing passively

>>182089108
>>182087786
nerf?

if anything it needs the cooldown lowered.

4 seconds of DM and 10 seconds to recharge is kinda bullshit

>>182088727
Fuck off. Fuck. Off. Blizzard already is ruining aesthetics of their game well enough, stop giving them more ideas.

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I WANT A REINHARDT TITTYPAD

I need healing

>>182089336
I meant discount Genji in terms of mobility. All his movements are pretty fucking linear. For the record I actually have fun with both Doomfist and Genji.

>>182089336
>>182089174
hes better that genji on his own niche scenario

hes like symetra, in the situations where hes defending or where the enemy team needs to move towards him, he almost always wins.

doesnt help that his hard counters seems to be bastion and pharah.

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>>182089573

>>182089573
Heal me

>>182089573
I NEED A DOCTOR

>>182089479
I feel like they would make it that you would have to hit your allies to give them shields. I mean, it isn't the first there was friendly fire in this game.

>>182089840
>hes better that genji on his own niche scenario
Sounds like Orisa.

>doesnt help that his hard counters seems to be bastion and pharah.
Tracer and Genji can deal with him not as hard counters but they either run circles or outrange him respectively.

>>182090232
every single dps in the game counter him one way or another and can 1v1 him extremely easily

People actually think Orisa counters Doomfist just because of their lore...

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>We need someone to take care of x!

>>182090232
orisa is a failure because she cant work with dive meta. shes a okay secondary tank and thats it.

MFDF can end a dive comp advantage with a poorly aimed right click, and being vulnerable to tracer genji was never specific to him.

>>182090371
keeping range on most of the maps is quite difficult, like i said, if he has the point advantage hes likely to win

>Doomfist is a strong situational character
>Very strong against certain heroes and in certain comps
>Has some very hard counters that encourage hero switching both to deal with him on the enemy team, and to switch off of him after being countered
>Ult is strong when combo'd with his team, but average alone

Is Doomfist the best designed hero in the game?

>>182090459
orisa doesnt "counter" anything because she has no niche

>>182089573
MEDIC oh wait

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I'm still a bit surprised that DF wasn't a tank, especially with how the animation just had him a hulking guy that stood there shrugging off damage. and I know a melee focused tank would be a kick in the dick to Rein because thats his thing, but blizzard works in weird ways so it wouldn't have been that surprising if they pulled that stunt.

>>182090459
Blizzard actually did design Orisa with the intent of being a hard Doomfist counter. When they had their little internal event they showed content creators the new hero and said exactly this.

>>182090536
There's nothing wrong with generalists like soldier or Reinhart being good and I'd say both of them are really well designed

>>182090194
That's a good idea too

>i'm a sym main

>>182090695
The fact she doesn't actually counter him even though they intended her to just goes to show they can't balance anything and just throwing shit until it sticks.

>>182090814
Generalists being so reliable goes against the core game design, though. Blizzard wanted hero swapping to counter your enemies to be an integral mechanic. Name one situation where S76 ever has to switch off to counter an enemy pick.

>>182090459
She isn't a hard counter to him, but DF can't do anything against her

>>182090525
>orisa is a failure because she cant work with dive meta. shes a okay secondary tank and thats it.
That's what "niche" means. For the record Doomfist doesn't work well with dive either.

>keeping range on most of the maps is quite difficult
Not if you're creative with the maps' layouts.

>>182090919
You can easily see the intent, though. Fortify to fuck with his abilities, and Halt to pull him out of all his movement shit.

She just happens to be super bad.

>>182090612
Actually, she counters herself pretty well

>>182090612
>make fuck off huge character with huge hitbox
>"anchor tank"
>only 400 health
>mediocre at best damage went down to pitiful
Its actually pretty sad, you only need to shoot in her general direction even with bad aim and bam, you'll still hit her and she lost a big chunk of her health already from it.

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Tier Doomfist on current impressions so far

>>182091190
I feel like Blizz doesn't really consider how heroes interact with and against themselves, though. That's what got us 2winston2lucio back on launch: they didn't think about how well Lucio and Winston could synergize with themselves.

>>182091129
This, his big hitbox also made him easier for her to shoot at

>>182091343
Certainly on my S-tier, along with Ana and Pharah

>>182091343
Looking at a tier 3-4, honestly. Possibly on the lower end of 2.

>>182091378
Two words for you:
Double genji

>>182091049
>pseudo-shotgun vs the worlds largest hitbox
clearly it can only go well

>>182091395
He has three movement abilities Vs her one halt! on an 8sec cooldown she ain't hitting shit

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>>182091545

>>182091343
thats not a tier list its usage rates in an arbitrary cross section of pro play

>>182091706
Doomfist's hitbox is large enough that it shows up on google maps. Orisa should be able to hit him.

>>182091329
They wanted her to be an anchor tank like Reinhardt and completely missed the point why Reinhardt filled that role.

>>182090919
tbqh he ahd at least 2 previous interaction

if he had his punches stopped by shields maybe this would happen, i dunno.

>>182091621
In all seriousness Orisa does have tools to seriously frustrate orisa but she needs more fucking DAMAGE, that nerf was utterly asinine

>Can control his movement when all of his damage is dependent on movement abilities
>can no-sell his punch
>Pretty sure a shotgun is going to suffer more than other weapons against super armor

>>182091041
McCree is objectively better against flankers and Reaper is (at least now) better against multiple tanks, especially if it's raw killing them and not just shooting barriers

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this game was very close to having a pick/ban drafting stage and unable to switch heroes mid-game.

>>182090459
Orisa is trash but still miles better than doomfist

>>182091706
The size of her pellets and the size of his hitbox kind of makes the movement moot.

>>182091947
>to frustrate Orisa
doomfist.

>>182092027
I'm not sure how I feel about that.

>>182092027
I'm glad it didn't get one

I wanna FUCK D.VA SO HARD

>>182091812
It is a tier lol, and all the tier summaries have correlation but here's your reddit upvote

>>182091884
And why is that again?

>>182092182
word

>>182092182
I don't know man, word on the street is that she's preeeetttttyyyyy smelly.

>>182092027
Good, having to predict what your enemy is going to do composition-wise would get tiresome very quickly

>>182091879
>>182092072
as long as DF can skill her, no orisa will track well enought to handle DF with his shields

>>182092283
I'd wear a clothespin on my nose with 0 problems if it meant I could fuck D.Va raw

>>182091802
More like double cancer. And his stupid animation skipping and ledge boosts weren't even fixed back then. God, I hate genji so much.

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>>182091947
>suddenly remember a 1v1 game where we were both Orisa
>this was after the damage nerf
It was so stalled out that it wasnt even funny

>>182092283
doubt it, she looks very clean and fresh

i bet her pusy smells like strawberries and her neck like cum

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>>182092479
You should be nicer to such a cute cyborg

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post yfw after a brutal teamfight for the point, you're the only one on either team still standing

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>>182092819
Angela pls

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>>182092947
>realize my turret took damage during it
THE POINT CAN WAIT

>>182092240
Primarily because of shield + charge, you would stick close to Reinhardt and get behind his shield to get protection, and when Reinhardt charged you would follow him to take advantage of the momentum and help him not get killed, in this way Reinhardt paced the attack and the defense. Orisa doesn't have anyhitng of that

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>>182092947

>>182092240
reinhard can move his shield foward, taking space from the ennemy team to his

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>>182092947
>after a brutal teamfight for the point, you're the only one on either team still standing
> hear "Helden sterben nicht!"

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>pick a player on the enemy team, usually mercy but ana/zen or an immobile dps work too
>lock in genji
>watch from high ground until you get an opportunity to kill them
>go back to their spawn and kill them as they walk back
>repeat
>if they manage to get back to their team, solo dragonblade them and dash back to their spawn
Why is this so much fun? I don't even care if I've dropped from masters to plat doing this, this is more fun than the actual game.

>>182092819
>faggot enjoying him some gengu
Not even surprised

>Winston

HP reduced by 400

>DVA

Now spawns in gremlin form

>Zarya

Removed energy concept

there, all tanks are now shit.

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>>182093805
>You're Reaper
>They're all right on the point
FUCKING KRAUTS

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>>182092947
>me as zen vs tracer on the point in 99/99 illios overtime
>rewinds
>dashes into the well trying to get to me

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>roadhog is somehow fine now because DUDE JUST STAY WITH YOUR TEAM AND GET YOUR TEAM TO KILL FOR YOU LMAO
>even though before you could just say DUDE JUST STAY WITH YOUR TEAM AND GET THEM TO PROTECT YOU WHEN YOU GET HOOKED LMAO

this general is full of shitters.

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>>182092947
>failed to keep healers live
>couldn't kill fast enough to prevent an almost wipe
>fight still ends for my team
I'm tired, you guys take over.

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>>182092947
>Hear heel clicking as im about to cap

>>182093984
Let me guess: Mercy main that always gets killed by ganji?

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>how it feels to shoot at pharamercy as Orisa

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You're setting up for attack and this guy slaps your turret's ass - what do?

we stomped so hard I switched off throw-dps onto a healer

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>>182092947
>you have an amazing team fight and see mercy is still alive
>she gets the rez
>you know what time it is
>Quintuple kill!

>>182094382
>merci main)0
Not even close, shitter.

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>>182094802
Funny how you call others shitters when you're the one getting killed by Genjis.

>Defense matrix

NOW COSTS 100 HP A SECOND

FUCK YOU NHIGGER


REMOVE THIS FUCKING STUPID SHIT

DEFENSE MATRIX IS SO FUCKING STUPID

just let them die, JSUT KILL THEM JSUT GET RID OF THE IMBECILES

>>182095042
>ana and mercy get all that charge
what have you done

>>182095184
Self inflicted damage doesn't give ult charge to supports.

>>182095184
Self damage doesn't build ult you fucking IDIOT

>>182090814
>
>>182090814

>reinhart
>good

lol

For fucks sake. How hard is it to change characters when you are being countered by the enemy team?

>>182095042
>I'm too stupid to make sure D Va is out of mech before I ult

maybe one day you'll climb out of silver

>>182095372
when you are a mercy main, a lot

>>182095361
How is Reinhart poorly designed?

>>182094960
I'm bullying the fucker every time, you dumb fuck. It doesn't change the fact that he's better not existing at all

>>182095532
He's not necessarily poorly designed, he's just not good. At all. Literally everything about him is bugged, and he's such a one trick that the current meta has no room for him in any role.

>reinhardt
>being harassed by a tracer because rein is shit now
>decide I might as well make her work for her kill, shield every time she shoots, attack when she reloads, repeat
>recalls into my charge

ebin

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>Rocket hammer has been bugged since anniversary event, no posts from developers
>Charge feels clumsy, earth shatter gets nerfed
>Doomfist get released
>Rocket fist wins againts charge
>Another counter to barrier

>Blizzard said they were going to retire characters
>Reinhardt is the oldest

I think it is time to say goodbye to our chivalrous german crushing machine.

>>182095692
I once accidentally headshot a recalled tracer as hanjo, by flicking and shooting to whatever place I thought she was three seconds ago. That was the best play I ever made and probably will ever make. Damn shame I didn't record it.

>>182095821
>Reinhardt was the training wheels that gave the community time to figure out how to actually play the game and break a choke

>>182095556
>says he bullies him
>still wants him gone even though he's doing his job of making his life hell
Something doesn't add up, my dumb fuck friend.

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The game is now perfectly balanced

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Jeff: "we think Doomfist will be great at diving"

>>182096007

>mobility is king because all the area denial/defense heros are utter garbage
>2CP being gutter trash stallfest
>Mercy being able to rez and perpetuate stall straight out the spawn door
>Dva generally has no viable counter due to matrix bypassing heros being immobile or generally trash

World of tanks hinged on Ana being broken as fuck. Dive has no singular culprit and will therefore stay cemented as the win strategy unless big changes happen to the many shit heros in this game.

>>182096373
>try to think of a hero concept that would be good at area denial
>think of basically Roadhog

Did we make a mistake?

>>182095992
I'm not really surprised that your tiny brain can't comprehend how one can do his job, but hate doing it at the same time.

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>>182095042

>>182096278
>jeff is wrong

oh wow huh what a surprise oh who coulda seen this one comin wow

>Orisa can now shift between her regular gun and a beam like Zarya's that is a shorter range but does consistent damage
Does this help her not get BTFO at point blank now?

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>>182096584
SHADOW STEP NEEDS A FUCKING BUFF

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DoomNigger fucks Mercy EVERY SINGLE NIGHT and sometimes again the next morning - if he doesn't already have his dick in some other bitch.

But she likes it because REFUGEES WELCOME!!!

>>182096584
didnt even bother to open the image, probably some stupid nigger shit

defense matrix is overpowered. to even ATTEMPT to deny that is to just be intellectually dishonest and malevolent.

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>Shitstomping an easy team
>Final round everyone decides to throw

>>182095508
What about
>Widow
>Reaper
>Junk
>Sym
>Hanzo

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>>182096465
Not surprised that you have too small of a brain to figure out how to make it fun and the fact that you're playing something meant for entertainment without having fun.

>>182096906
wew lad
what rank are you on the real, please provide proof as well

>>182096413

>Replace scatter arrow with a golden piercing arrow that ignores deflect, matrix, and barriers so that Hanzo is more useful, less cheesy, and more powerful against much better heros like Genji and Dva

>Generally pick anything about tobjorn and make it better. Health, shit hitbox, fragile turret, etc.

>Reduce road hook CD to compensate for worse damage now

>I have no idea how you would buff mei

>Increase cowboy damage 5 points to one shot tracer and have flashbang bypass deflect to make him actually good at killing the two best flank heros in the game

>Make bastion's health entirely armor or give him a little front facing barrier with 200HP in turret mode, alternatively just increase his health

>Increase junkrat projectile speed, and give him a 2nd trap

I generally think it's best to buff shit heros rather than nerfing good ones.

>>182096906
It requires some sort of counterplay that everyone should be able to do. Reaper can still shoot Pharah on the skybox it's just ineffective. The only thing that everyone can do in a 1v1 scenario against her DM is melee. But 30 damage to her 500(?) health pool and putting yourself in her shotgun's range is not a counterplay.

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>>182096901
>in some other bitch
You mean Reaper.

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>>182096901
>still tries to force the BLACKED meme when it suits Tracer more

REMINDER THAT GENJI LOVES TO LICK MCCREES DIRTY BUNGHOLE CLEAN

>>182097021
Glad to see oneme pictyres being posted by retarded people. Refreshes the belief in stability of this world, you know.

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>play dps mostly
>constantly cry about how I am literally the only player in the game that goes after healers, even when I play tank and healer

>play healer
>I am literally standing on the payload alone while my whole team fucks off to be bad
>surrounded by THREE (3) enemies
>not ONE is shooting at me

it's incredible. you think it would be different in high diamond/masters but nooooooooo

>>182097220
>But 30 damage to her 500(?) health pool and putting yourself in her shotgun's range is not a counterplay.
Try Genji vs. D.va. Well, for me anyway, she either runs off or stays and gets her mech destroyed.

>>182087786
Hopefully.

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>>182097294
oh yes, fools on the internet are posting certain kinds of anime images, the end is fucking nigh, society is on the brink of collapse as we know it

imagine being this much of a frustrated manchild, I don't get it, it's everywhere

>>182097118
I like scatter arrow as a gameplay concept, the only problem with it is that it's too rewarding to shoot someone's feet instead of getting clever corner shots or what have you. Maybe they could make it so the arrow has to travel a short distance before it can scatter or give Hanzo a short CD ability that lets him use a ricocheting regular arrow instead.

>front facing barrier on Bastion
They already tried that. Pretty sure it made him obnoxious.

>>182097226
tracers not black tho

>>182097467
trying jumping

im also fine with roadhogs OHK hook

>>182097294
Want to try that again in English?

>>182097021
Okay, read this nice and slow, don't apply too much pressure to yourself, keep it steady. Here we go:
Genji is an annoying character, it doesn't matter if he's on your team or the other - he is annoying. He also gets way too much attention from blizzard, despite his lackluster character. Hanzo, for example, doesn't exist as a standalone hero, his role is to be the older brother of Genji.
Then, we have me, mostly playing Zarya, easily defeating 90% of genji's I encounter. Does it change him being annoying? No, it doesn't, because unfortunately things don't stay dead in this game, and you in fact cannot kill teammates.
So thus, I come to a conclusion that despite my pretty much full time job as a genji killer, that hero would be better not being in the game.

I hope I didn't make your head hurt with too much text. Take care, little buddy

>>182097467

His barrier had a shit ton of health. I think 1000 HP. 200 is just enough to protect you from a stray soldier helix. Hardly OP considering how stationary and worthless he is now.

>>182097226
>I'm a basic bitch mongoloid who only likes something when it has canon interactions and screen time influencing me
Such a lack of imagination.

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>>182097471
She was the one BLACKED, though.

>>182096901
Mercy is swiss.

There are no black people in Switzerland lol. They even try to keep the Germans out.

Nice force though.

Side by side, which is faster: fully charged Rocket Punch or the Rein charge?

>>182097395
I am talking about something every character can do. If we are talking about specific counters you could use Mei/Zarya.

>>182096413
>single target instakill = area denial
there is nothing farther from area denial than "press [button] to delete character"
torb and mei are the closest things to area denial
mei is shit because she has roadhog syndrome where her unique utility is diminished for the sake of allowing her to get free kills for doing nothing
torb is shit because hes inflexible and thus a negative momentum sink since he forces defensive character swaps, something you never want to be doing

>>182097945
without even testing I can tell you punch is considerably faster, much shorter range though

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>>182092947
Do you feel enlightened yet?

>>182097665
That still doesn't change the fact that you can't find fun or be creative in how you can kill Genji with other characters. In other words, you're a shitter.

Also, what exactly does story have to do when the talk you and I are having is about gameplay specifically.

>spent an entire game having to swap between D.Va and Winston because some fag smurf on the enemy team was abusing Genji and Reaper
I hate this game. Genji is just so stupidly good

>>182097019
they are throwing or have a really strong delusion towards their own skill level

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>>182095042
This is now all I can think of when I see people complain about Defense Matrix.

>>182098373
He needs more counterplay. Deflect just shuts down most everything in the game that's not tickle chimp and zarya and Genji is mobile enough to avoid both.

A good genji fears absolutely nothing.

>>182098482
>dumpstrplayr
apt name

>>182098373
>Genji and Reaper
>hates Genji only
ayyyy

>>182098482
>stops ALL weapons in the game except 3
>HAHAAH HE MUST BE SOMETHING SOMETHING MEME STRAWMAN

faggot, kill yourself. hope you die young, if you have kids, can only hope they die.

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don't shitters that constantly, viciously cry about how terrible the game is remind you of cucked beta faggots? that nasty arrogant shit that can't understand why this girl doesn't like him, so he turns to shitting on her and calling her a slut over and over again.

the poor sap was invested in something and his ego can't handle that he's just not good enough. so the only remaining option is to bring down the object of attention to an equally shitty, worthless level

truly a painful mediocrity

>>182098772
No I don't really think of numale beta cucks when I see someone calling the game terrible. Seems weird to think that way when someone dislikes a game you like.

>>182098537
It seems like doomfist can put fear into him. Not positive though.

>>182098772
any game that balances to appeal to the lowest common denominator is objectively a bad game

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>>182098714
>lol but in MY anecdote, DM is literally constantly up and cucking every single shot in the game! so unbalanced!

>viciously wishing death upon random people on the internet

whoa there buddy, you're gonna have to calm down a little

>>182098714
>can't bait out a FOUR (4) second shield that takes TEN (10) seconds to recharge
do what you'd do with rein and have the whole team focus the dva wtf is wrong with you

>>182098714
>Doesn't stop Rein's hammer
>Doesn't stop Winstons ticklegun
>Doesn't stop Zarya's beam
>Doesn't stop Mei's blaster
>Doesn't stop Doomfist's fists
>Doesn't stop Sombra from hacking her
>Doesn't stop Hog from hooking her

Okay my guy

>>182098935
well-balanced people move on from things they dislike, they don't sperg 24/7 on a chinese cartoon site about a blizz game

>>182098714
>>182099080
It's kinda like a rein shield but way weaker

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So I did it. I've become RAGE HATE AND SOON VIOLENCE

>Have a stupid faggot on my team who keeps blaming me
>close game but we lose because hes a shitty pharah who keeps getting sniped
>get another match with him
>he gets carried and openly talks shit when my widow/hanzo/torb offense party gets into OT
>talks mad shit, fucking NIGGER BE GRATEFUL I CANT KILL YOU.
>another game
>talks shit, kill him several times and carry as zen
>NOPE NOPE NOPE, FORCED TO LOSE BECAUSE I HAVE TWO SILVERS AND A GOLD ON MY TEAM FOR SOME FUCKING REASON ITS 2800 FUCK OFF
>lose and he gets his entire team to talk shit

I just want to fucking beat his fucking head into a wall, it's so infuriating watching a FUCKING RETARD get the better of me because of others.

>>182098772

>If you complain about the game you're bad

Defend 2cp.
Defend the defense roster being bad since launch.
Defend mercy rezzes from spawn.
Defend rein still being broken.
Defend Genji deflect hitbox.

I complain about the game because I like it and want to see it's problems being fixed.

>enemy Hanzo is getting some kills
>our two supports decide to switch to both snipers
>5 DPS and one tank
Why are snipers autistic? Just because someone is doing good in Take doesn't mean you need to one up them

>>182099163
>me booga
>team ooga

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>Player does absolute shit for the first four minutes and 30 seconds
>swaps to a hero we could have used earlier with 30 seconds left on the clock

Why do you do this. If you're going to lose, go down with your fucking ship. Don't swap at the last moment as if you were only pretending to be retarded and now you're going to be super serious. It does nothing but prolong the inevitable, you might as well bite the fucking bullet.

>>182098772
Overwatch has taught me that the average gamer has no clue what they want. It's all vague subjective shit. Blizzard sort of has the right idea of ignoring the playerbase.

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>Play ranked during day
>Get matched with people from my region
>Lose almost every match

>Play ranked at night
>Matched with a bunch of middle-easterners that don't even speak English
>Group with them anyway and go on a win streak

This has happened almost every day this week. I can't be the only one, right?

>>182095042
Just play Doomfist, Zarya or Mei.

>>182099163
if someone pisses you off you just have to wait two minutes before joining a new game

>our widow keeps getting headshot by their widow

>>182098969
Not really. Genji just shoots him from a distance and the only long range he has can be deflected. Not to mention Doomfist has to waste two or more skills to reach Genji's positions and that giant hit box Doomfist has doesn't help.

>>182099219
Literally none of these things except Reinhardt are a problem.

>>182099342
arabs numba 1
remember this ya akhy

>>182099370
>playing any of these heroes
>in a dive comp
Hahahaha

>>182099597
Zarya in dive is fine.

Doomfist in particular is great at counterdive and fucks up Dva. Swap her for Zarya and things go much smoother.

>>182095821
Are you going to post this every single fucking thread? This is already more annoying then the T.Racer shit

>>182099342
No, I find that too. At least at diamond.
When I play at daytime I usually find myself getting matched with a bunch of DPS mains and throwers. But when I play at night I end up teaming with the first group I can, usually a bunch of Arabs, and they are just much more coordinated and polite for some reason. Only time I've ever graced Masters for a brief moment was thanks to a group like that.

>>182099219
>defend a game mode
>doesn't state why it's bad

>defend the roster being bad
>doesn't state why it's bad, it's just bad and shitty ok

>can't really defend that

>defend x character being broken
>doesn't state how he's broken

>defend genji hitbox
>it's not that much of a problem, only an idiot shoots at a deflecting but genji but has terrible enough aim that he's so far off, he complains about the hitbox being big

really, the inherent problem in discussing the game and its dynamics is that literally no one ever offers any proof or evidence, it's just anecdotal shit flinging and a wishful sense of consensus with whatever you think. I'm all for discussing the game like an intelligent adult with relevant data at hand, but no one does that, it's just waaaaaah the roster is bad waaaaaah rein's broken waaaaaah genji's deflect is literally ALWAYS up and deflecting all our ults because it's literally the size of rein shield wtff blizz?!?!???

>>182099470

I disagree, and really think a lot of people would as well. Maybe I'm just a fucking shitter but not a single game of 2cp has ended without someone in chat ">2cp" posting. Really prominent members of the community who play at a really high level complain about this issue.

Stall heros, ult spam, and last being a nightmare to take is not well counterbalanced by point A being a freebie for the attackers in most cases.

>Swapping to Zenyatta every time some punk bitch no fun allowed mother fucker picks Pharah
>Discord that bitch and throw my balls all over her, ensuring she never spends more than a couple seconds in flight
>Tfw they switch off eventually out of sheer frustration
Best feeling.

>>182099597
Dive's always had either D.va or Zarya as a secondary, mainly D.va lately.

>>182099080
>hammer being relevant
>winston stopping defense matrix
>zarya stopping defense matrix
>mei stopping

whatever, not finishing, dealing damage to DVA =/=stopping defense matrix, none of them are high dps. Sombra is the only counter, and that means she is broken, because if the only counter is to literally stop her from using any abilities, she's broken.

>>182099926
the counter to dm

is not being in front of dva

Hot new lore

Doomfist's gauntlet is actually a re-engineered piece of the ultimate Omnic War Machine, thankfully left incomplete at the time the crisis ended. A party of 6 found the machine, and broke it's body into pieces so that they could each use it to achieve strength.

Doomfist got the Right Arm, and the others took the Left Arm, Right Leg, Left Leg, Body, and Head. There remain 5 heroes out there in the world, each with a piece of this war machine strapped to their body, granting them power.

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>>182098714
>tank character has a tool that allows them to take a large amount of damage
Why does this offend you

>>182099726

2CP is bad because it's very common for the last point to be obnoxiously close to defender spawn. This means that an attacking team can be stomping the enemy team but due to stalling heros like tracer, mei, dive tanks, etc, the defending team can stall a loss for a really long ass time.

Defense heros are very underpowered almost universally with maybe widow getting out of 'never good' to 'very situational'.

Rein hammer is still bugged and doesn't register consistently, the same is true for his charge and ultimate.

Genji deflect is so absurdly large that he can block off entire hallways with it, and protect his flanks at the same time. Reinhardt shield is a hyperbole, but try tossing a flashbang over a deflect and see how much you'll wrongly eat shit for it. Unless you propose that deflect is supposed to be a 270 degree invincibility shield.

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>>182100095
I'd call bullshit, but >Mfw The Scourge was left-handed

>>182100095
Sounds stupid. So totally possible!

That feel when the game is already a year old, and we STILL no next to nothing about the world and setting, FFS...

>>182100095
Before OhNickel or Stylose go and make a lore vid about this "hot new lore", one should keep in mind that we know who the previous "Doomfists" were and the Savior didn't even use the same gauntlet as the Scourge or the Successor

>>182098714
joining this train of replies just so i can call you a dipshit

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i need help.

i cant stop playing hard AI.

there are only nice people, they work as a team, they dont trash talk, and everyone is 100% focused on it even if theres only one tank and one healer. it doesnt help that the enemy has a excellent aimbot, works together better that many pubs in quickplay and know positioning asides sticking together.

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>>182100095
this is straight out of yu gi oh

so i guess we gonna collect cards now!

>>182100593
>Doomfist, Right Arm of the Forbidden One

>>182100443
play quickplay, it's essentially the same just with less teamwork

>>182100323
They just make shit up as they go along, it's pathetic.

>>182100258
I'm sure at least parts of what you're saying are true, but where's the evidence? I eat shit from mcrees flashbanging me through deflect all the time as a genji main. rein doesn't register consistently, what's your baseline? can you actually show us objectively that rein's attacks aren't registering as they should be?

then someone goes >rein isn't broken, are you in silver lol? everyone knows etc etc and it just goes back to my point that there's no debate, no facts, nothing but anecdotal shit flinging

I don't necessarily disagree with you on these points, but there's no logical discourse or anything objective for me to agree with other than saying "haha yeah my rein hammer's never register too wtf"

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>>182098984
It is. it's extremely effiecent and can be used without any drawbacks.

and my rage is well earned.

>>182099070
and? if only it could be broken up and 4 seconds is a long time in this game, afterall, flashbang is only .7? and if only it didnt immediately start charging, unlike rein.

>>182099125
if reins shield projected outward and snuggled up around you and prevented you from shooting in any direction and is the size of a point and has no damage limit.

>>182100231
disproportionate and method of prevention, being inferior and weak minded to say "clown man stops damage whats wrong with that? he simply reduces all damage anyone does by half, he's a tank!"
you should be killed

>>182100386
that's real irony, because by replying to call me a dipshit, you've all but damned yourself to be one.
again, dealing a little damage to DVA does not stop defense matrix from shutting down her DPS, while she shuts down yours.

>>182100443
hmm it's almost like once you take out the competitive aspect of potentially seeming worse than other real people, suddenly egos can't make the game cancer

weird isn't it

>>182100095
how the fuck would they make a left leg themed hero interesting

>>182100095
>>182100593
We Blazblue, son.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liQVJT4S3lU

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>>182100095
WE EXODIA NOW

>>182100962
>that's real irony, because by replying to call me a dipshit, you've all but damned yourself to be one.
lmao whatever you say dipshit

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>>182100962
Part of why I love D.Va is that she's really nice for punishing and pissing off DPS players who don't play properly. There's little better than seeing someone realise they can't make a big play on their own when I'm defense matrixing them, and then boosting after them when they run away and bursting them down.

>>182101117
I don't remember the Six Heroes having anything like that, but I don't know too much about the war era stories.

Also
>Genji will never have a voice line saying "I am the white void"
Blizzard please.

I WANNA fuck Pharah

>>182101618
go for it, my dude

>>182101618
I would personally rather fuck D.Va

>>182101863
go for it, my guy

>>182101073
>the one with the right leg gets killed
>the one with the left vows revenge and wears both legs

>>182101073
>>182101987
it might as well be lucio

>>182102074
>all of the limbpeople are black

>>182101618
>>182101863
Get in line faggots

>>182101607
The Six Heroes had magic weapons/magic that they used to beat the Black Beast. Every other Ars Magus made during/after the war were based on theirs.

>Also
>Genji will never have a voice line saying "I am the white void"
>Blizzard please.
>Genji doesn't use it
>it's actually a title given to him when he went into the regular Overwatch team
>it's Pharah that calls him that because she's an Overwatch fangirl
You know that's what'll happen.

>>182101607
this sounds like an inferiority complex.

If every person on the enemy team worked together to combo, DVA simply stops most ultimates. Most by accident by sheer spam.

You see, DVA stops me throwing a grenade at my feet. DVA stops me from shooting someone after I hook them. DVA eats gravitons. She is a low skill floor character whose only difficult is learning how long and how fast others characters shoot and for long how they reload. Because of how FAST it goes out, how little is used when she turns it on, and how fast it starts recharging, it's very easy to just shut the enemy team down.

>>182102378
You do know it's directional, right? Have you tried attacking in a scissor formation so D.Va can't aim her DM at your entire team?

>>182089486
>Flashback to 2 months ago when 4 seconds of DM and 10 seconds to recharge was considered too slow to protect anyone reliably by a good chunk of /owg/ and reddit

>>182102852
>chokes

yes, sombra flanking is a counter. Matrix isn't unstoppable. But it's bullshit, unfun, overpowered, and cheap

>>182102852
no it's literally a black hole that covers the entire map at all times, how can't you see this is broken????!

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>>182103094
>>182102852
>pubs coordinate to do this
>dva players start to play with maximun DPI to waggle the DM all around them
i would not be surprised with this

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Lowest played heroes and why? Can't stand sniping or standing still, Tracer is my most played go figure.

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>>182100095
If it's part of that war machine thing than what the fuck was the gauntlet in the museum for? I thought he stole that back and augmented it or something? Isnt that why he busted up those OR 15s?

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>>182103304
ima try that right now

>>182103603
It's literally just the same gauntlet. They put it in an exhibit after he was beaten and thrown in jail.

>Doomfist makes Gauntlet from ded Killbot
>Becomes badass
>Loses to Overwatch agents and imprisoned
>His glove is gifted to a traveling exhibit
>As it's one route to be delivered to the Numbani Museum, Doomfist escapes from jail and steals it back

Not saying this fanfic Exodia bullshit is real, but it lines up at least in part. Though who the fuck knows how it works with the other 2 Doomfists.

>>182103593
>can't stand standing still
>barely played genji
scrub

>>182103996
genjis for fags my dude, and im no fag.

SOMBRA TIPS LADS

That aren't "Pick someone else"

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Remember how we thought Talon would be fun?
Remember how Widow and Reaper going to be redeemed?
Remember how Sombra was their comic relief?

Good times.
Now things get serious

>>182104034
yes you are, your most played is tracer. but really, you should play genji, id

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>search otto in gelbooru
>post yfw

>>182103931
But all that's left of it was that glove we see there. How the fuck did it suddenly turn into his whole fucking arm?

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>>182087276
Doomfists design is disappointing as fuck

>>182104140
Why would I play a hero that takes no skill? His shurikens are lame as fuck, he has too much health and an ult that gives him free kills, not to mention weeb bait. No thanks kiddo.

>>182100095
lmao damn nigga this some yugioh bullshit

>>182104091
you are literally tracer beta version. sadly you are the best KSer out there, even the support can outdps you.

dont go out without a translocator backup

hack everything, favor tanks that can protect everyone. you only really need one HP hacked.

fuck your spread, be ready to melee a little. at 10 meters a melee hit is ~12 bullets on sombra's smg

you see your invisibility? its shit. use it to gofast, glitch the delays and never to get out of situations, only in, and even then, never ever trhu where your team is shooting.

tracer or sombra fucking your shit up? hack a small health pack and fight on top of it. the thing outheals mercy and will give you ult charge.

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>unironically playing torb

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>>182103593
>Can't into genji
Fucking pleb

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This just in, the interaction between Doomfist and Zarya is increasing the popularity of their ship.
It's called Fistya

>>182104450
damn that's a pretty pathetic theis on why you're too bad to play one of the highest skill ceiling heroes

>>182104674
>not knowing that even with #throw4dafuck /ourguy/ and his lil turret have a higher that 60% WR in average
its like you dont even get to be autistic over the statistics blizz wont let us have

>>182104450
not who ur responding to but genji's pretty hard

i'm a tracer main and consider her extremely fucking easy aside from requiring semi decent tracking practice

>>182104739
>cant into
more like dont want to, look at your post and tell me you arent some power rangers watching faggot

>>182104674
>Unironically posting garbage

>>182104798
>he interaction between Doomfist and Zarya is increasing the popularity of their ship.
So now Zarya has 3 fans?

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>>182104653
also always use high ground to hack, it also helps to get some headshots in.

spam Z when you got EMP ready and make certain your team is together. remember them after you die EMPing the enemy its their job to carry that.

like tracer, sombra is a soft counter to a lot of shit, and possibly one of the most reliable support flankers there is in game.

>>182104450
>Burst projectiles take no skill to consistently land
Nigga thats like the hardest possible shit to hit people with. It mixes leading the projectile with tracking the target

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>>182104849
not him but I main tracer and genji, and I found it took me waaaay longer to get to a effective level with tracer

then again my tracking was really horrible for the longest time

>>182104739
I watched it when I was a kid in the 90's and this skin was a bit of nostalgia for that and Kamen rider. That doesn't mean you're not a pleb though

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>>182104987
They have similar philosophies about power and survival of the human race. I'd like to see them interact in the canon.

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>>182104915
>he can't into Tokusentai
How's it feel being a faggot?

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>>182087409
Have some shit OC I made.

>>182105224
according to dataminers and utubers its poorly.

>human strenght can only get you this far
>true strenght is hard work and cooperation!
something like that

>>182105141
Tracer is grounded easy mode genji

>>182105224
this is definitely growing on me

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Threadly reminder Doomfist is completely, unironically, totally, and wholly innocent.

>>182105320
>they're two sides of the same coin
Picked the fuck up.

>>182105256
Sorry dont speak fag

>>182105320
Of course they won't get along initially. I meant they need to fight and then see they are evenly matched. After that, well, we'll what happens.

>>182105449
i duno man

he does seem to appreciate them omnic rights

but the CEO of a proeminent company who forgot to use a secret identity to fight for people's right is not alright for me

>>182105576
Eh, realistically, Doomfist trying to start more war is putting Russia in danger which is bound to piss Zarya off. So honestly, there's going to be hostilities. Talon seems to want Hanzo, though.

>Sombra discovers a secret organization that has it's fingers in everything
>No one but her knows about it
>But that group still has a logo. Branding is very important!

Fucking what

>>182105805
that reminds me

talon has a logo? or a spray?

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>>182105321
Not really at all imo. She trades finishing ability, vertical mobility and a ton of range for extreme lateral mobility. Their ults are nothing alike. Genji has an incredible defensive ability whereas tracer's most defensive ability is basically a longer dash with contextual self-healing. Genji can afford to face a lot more situations head-on than tracer who's playstyle revolves around constantly shifting around your enemy. 50 max hp is a huge difference

There are a lot similarities in the way they function in teamfights and the roles they fill as hyperflankers but overall they are quite distinct in playstyle

>>182103931
>Doomfist makes Gauntlet from ded Killbot
>Becomes badass

You fucked up now.

The original black Doomfist (Savior) was killed by the second (Scourge), an Afrikaaner mercenary. The Scourge took the first gauntlet, handed it over to Talon's scientists and they modified it. Talon recruited the man we know today as The Successor Doomfist, though originally he was just a CEO of his family's prosthetics company (and before the outbreak of the Omnic Crisis a successful MMA fighter, which he got fucked out of because he lost his arm and he wasn't allowed to compete anymore with his prosthetic arm). As The Successor embraced Talon's philosophy of strength through conflict he eventually got fed up with the Scourge (who was after all just a Mercenary who didn't really believe in the cause and was just in it for loot/destruction) and killed him, taking the Doomfist for himself and further modifying it with the connections he has in the Prosthetics industry.

During his initial stint as the Successor Doomfist, he ran afoul of Tracer, Genji and Winston, who captured him. After he broke out he went underground with Talon helping him, after which he worked from behind the scenes until he stole the Doomfist back for himself.

And that's the confirmed backstory we have for the Doomfists.

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>>182105973
Logo.

>play Mei defending Hanamura
>like, ten seconds after the match starts there's a Reaper wandering around on the point
>tell the team I've got him
>hit the point and kill the fuck out that Reaper
>turn around and the entire team disengages to run to the point, exposing their backs to the enemy
>everyone dies except me and the tracer
>iceblock, ice wall, delay as long as i can hoping that my team will show up
>apparently they just decided to abandon A and just squat on B
>I can't stall any longer, so I hop off the edge to respawn
>pop out, entire team is gone
>they decided to engage one-by-one and all died in the time it took me to respawn
>Reaper is already capping B, say hello, exchange laugh emotes
>stand on the stairs and dance with Reaper and Genji while the enemy team finishes capping

The match only lasted like 90 seconds but at least I now know that, yes, love can indeed bloom on a battlefield.

>finally level 25 to start competitive
>first placement match
>teammate quits at first sign of trouble
>rest of the game is 5 v 6
>inevitably lose
Does it get better or should I just stick to QP?

Just goes to show all genji mains and players are top notch faggots while Tracer mains are some cool ass motherfucking cats who have more skill than that burnt cyborg weaboo. Go back to watching that Umaro hamster anime.

>>182106037
scourge seems like a good prototype for an actually good evil character, not a an edgy caricature like reaper

Reinhardt rework tell me what you think.

Shield now decays rapidly while held up and has a 2 second cooldown. A percentage of the damage absorbed restores Reinhardt's armor points. It refreshes completely each time it cools down. No movement penalty.

Passive - Forward March: If Reinhardt keeps walking in one direction, he builds up more speed. This speed is reduced the more sharply he turns. When he's near top forward speed, Reinhardt can charge without a windup animation.

>>182106037
>And that's the confirmed backstory we have for the Doomfists.
But still how
>>182104217

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>>182105760
>Talon seems to want Hanzo, though.
Hanzo, I like ya and I want ya. Now we can do this the easy way... Or we can do this the hard way.
The choice is yours!

>>182106453
Stick to QP until you've got a star.

>>182106467
So where did Genji touch you when he beat your ass?

I wish they'd start summer games early. Listen to that theme:

https://aku-no-homu.tumblr.com/post/162143068749/

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>>182104217
That's the actual Doomfist. The rest is reinforced armature to withstand the force of actually using the Doomfist.

>>182106467
people don't complain about tracer at all because there are no good ones below diamond whereas you have shitter mcrees shooting into deflecting shitter genjis at every rank

meanwhile tracer is fully, unironically, actually and factually the strongest (and most mobile for some reason) dps in the game and along with winston is the very core of dive

>>182106590
Aside from jumping around like a retard and having more health than he deserves? Like hanzo and widowmaker having more health than snipers need. I just hate genji and his players, absolute scumbags. You sound like someone who needs to be bullied and beat up.

>>182106679
But that kid punched reaper like a hundred feet away without any problem or damage to himself.

>>182106828
And the gauntlet broke afterward. Does Doomfist's gauntlet break every time he uses it?

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>teammate left to 1v1
>enemy has 1 HP
>tell teammate that
>they go into full panic unable to actually hit them
>teammate dies

>>182106809
>Has more health than he deserves
I love this meme. Genji would be unplayable with 150 health and the only people that suggest it are assblasted plat shitters.

t. Winston main.

>>182106798
Wouldn't that mean she's harder to use than genji because he's baby's first mobility hero?