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>[Epic of Remnant II: Agartha no Onna]
http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/agarta/
>5* Caster, 4* Assassin, 4* Berserker (All three will be added to the story gacha)
>Drake, D'Eon and Heracles Sprite & NP Renewal

>[Interlude Story Campaign]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php#20170705b

>[Agartha Pickup Summon 2]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php#20170704

>News
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php
>A new summer event has been announced in which Raikou will receive a swimsuit version
>English FGO has its own general for now, search /fgoalter/ in the catalog
>Skill interludes for Astolfo and Arjuna, NP interlude for Geronimo, quartz interludes for Cu Alter, Jeanne Alter, David, Billy the Kid and Li Shuwen.

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Farming Guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_SlTjrVRTgHgfS7sRqx4CeJMqlz687HdSlYqiW-JvQA/htmlview?sle=true#

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/RA8Px5jz

>Friendlist Spreadsheet (last reset: June 29)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Materials, experience and event AP simulators
http://fgosimulator.webcrow.jp/

>Alternate Servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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NO ASS
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So am I right in assuming that, especially if you have a Berserker on your team, Buster > Arts >>>>>> Quick?
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NO TITS
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>>182070354
isnt' that obvious?
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>>182070293
>>182070370
THIS SABER HAS A
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Can we get a Camel Rider soon? All of the Hassans should have had one.
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Perseus when?
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>>182070354
Yes
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>>182070156
>>182070193
Why didn't Apo get this kind of speed and quality translations? WTF it's not fucking fair bros.
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>>182070406
FUNNY FACE
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>>182070431
The guy translating SF is the hero we need but dont deserve
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>>182070414
Camels aren't animu enough, except for their toes :)
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bully
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>>182070431
Blame canonrap. Lazy cunt is blocking all the other translations from happening out of spite or something.

In the time it's taken that fucker to translate a few chapters, the SF translator's done two entire books if not more.
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>>182070431
because canon_ass kidnapped Apocrypha

BLfags not even once
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>>182070414
>Hassan that ride a Camel.
What would their name be?
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Euryale > Meduseless > Stheno > Anna > Gorgon
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>>182070568
Didn't he offer to translate Apo and canoncunt told him to fuck off?
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What should I spend my Mana Prisms on?
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>>182070630
Hassan of the Lung Cancer
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When is Tanechan coming back guys?
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>>182069942
> Died as a heroine who finished her job

You think Jeanne D'Arc finished her job? Go back to school retard. No matter how much it may trigger you, it's an Apoc reference.
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>>182070717
That sounds OP to me.
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Cute as fuck
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>>182070747
Frenchs consider she did the job well enough.
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I just want to know what the fuck is up with Edison.
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Guan Yu 5* when lads?
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> Cursed Arm Hassan insta-kills if MAG too low
> Medusa insta-kills if MAG too low
> Cu insta-kills if LCK too low

If your favorite Servant doesn't have at least B-Rank MAG and LCK, they're literally incapable of wining a Grail War.
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KINTOK A HOT! A HOT!
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Screencap this niggers>>182070282
>Ayaka just wants to survive and Richard doesn't give a shit about the grail
>Assassin girl wants to destroy the grail
>Enkidu and Gil doesn't give a shit about the grail since they only want to fight each other again
>Coma loli doesn't do jackshit lol
>Sigma is just a mercenary shitter
So that leaves us Flat, Police Chief, Faldeus, Herc's Mafia master, and Prelati. It's fucking obvious who's gonna win among the masters who are interested on the grail.
>inb4 no one wins again
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>>182071004
Passionlip instakills if you don't have anti nuke armour, checkmate.
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>>182071004
>E-Rank LCK
>win hard enough to end up as a Servant yourself
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>>182070731
5 minutes
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>>182071180
> Sigma is just

He's True Lancer and the master of Watcher, he's our Sieg for today

Also pale rider will kill Enkidu
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>>182071180
Sigma is going to become the strongest servant and kill the final boss Beast Prelatti.
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Hassan and Kojiro animation updates when?
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>>182070223
Total newb here.
Do free quests reset? Are they the way to farm Quartz? Is buying stat ups in the shop sensible? Is Jeanne(Ruler) good?
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>>182071364
>>182071462
As far we saw of him, Sigma is far more fun and interesting than Sieg.
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Sigma is a Grand
Screencap this
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why is Liz cucking me with my friends?
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If you missed the CCC event, you can never get a full servant library because you will be missing the beast entry for kiara

Fuck DW. There is no way they re-run that event.
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>>182071291
> enter war to save as many people as possible
> fail to save the girl you fall in love with
> lose one of your only friends in the war
> his sister spends rest of her life raped by worms
> companion in the war goes on to marry an old man
> die young, betrayed by people who you saved
> get turned into a murder robot for 100000 years

That's E-Rank Luck.
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>>182071559
because she's a gutter whore
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>>182071559
dumb female master
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> Enkidu dies to pale rider
> Gil gets pissed
> Dies to kill Pale Rider
> Alcides and Richard are the only ones left
> It turns out Enkidu left some of his mud inside Richard's shadow
> It creates twelve noble phantasm's and throws them to Richard one by one
> With an excaliblast from each being powered up since he's using true noble phantasms to fire them from, he hits Alcides with twelve of his exaliblasts, killing him with the twelth as he makes a dramatic speech
> Mirrors godhand
> Exhausted and out of prana, Richard vanishes, promising Ayaka he'll see her again
> Time skip forward ten years
> Ayaka gets home after a long day at the office
> Sitting on her couch is Richard inexplicably
> "Broke out of the throne lol"
> Happy life together

Screencap This
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>>182071559
Lancers are rare.
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>Hating Sakura will just become a bigger meme when the HF movies come out
It will never be a good time to be a Sakurafag
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>>182071540
I didn't say he was, I trust Narita and I'm sure Strange Fake will be amazing.

Except for the ending, the ending will be shit.
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10.0 thread.
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>>182071112
Quetz a cute. Why does Romulus look like Mussolini?
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>>182071702
I have a NP5 Cu.
Nobody ever fucking adds me ;_;
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tfw only Melt will rank in the popularity poll
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>>182071574
Of course they are going to rerun it, but till next year, to buy time between Part 2 Orders' releases, and to get more money from whales. Hell, they may even do a less serious and shorter 2nd part that releases the rest of the Sakuraclones in the datamines.
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>>182071898
Why are Lips tits so small here?
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>>182071493
>those enormous titties on 100 faces
Much approval
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>>182071692
Narita will never go for an otome ending. Richard will go after he wraps his relationship up with Ayaka.
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>>182071493
is serenity getting plowed by the king under the table
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>>182071692
>Enkidu dying
LOL you're fucking delusional if you think Narita is killing off his wank baby before the finale when he throws a hissy fit everytime Enkidu gets shit on in FGO
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>>182071981
Don't forget she's wearing that meme sweater.
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>>182071923
Stop trying to give me hope. Next you tell me the Illya / Santa Jeanne / Chacha events will get re-run
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>>182072038
> Narita will never go for an otome ending

Narita loves making couples that never part though. Just look at Baccano and the later seasons of Durarara. He may well make Ayaka a servant too and make them go for a motorbike ride together in the throne. Because he's Narita.
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>>182072105
He is pure and doesn't have a dick
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>>182071493
I wish there were more Hassan dedicated artists besides Mekakuri.
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>>182071493
Hey, that's how Mikiya eats his oranges!

What does it mean?
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>Ayaka
can we stop calling her this when it's obviously just going to be Manaka
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96d 18h 18m till HF
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>>182071505
jeanne is good
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>>182071898
Wait, do we even know when the voting period took place? If it happened before the CCC Order of course none of the Sakura AIs will make it. If it was done just after it, then you can expect BB and Melt to rank from medium to high places. We all know that Mashu, Scat, the Jeannes, and Artoria faces will win the top places though, with maybe a random Tamamo or Rin in there.
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>>182072190
> His wank baby

Enkidu's had the least wank of anyone in SF though. All he's done so far is match Gil which we've always known he can do. Hell, Narita's had Enkidu run away like a bitch. That's the opposite of wank.
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>>182072294
I wish that 99% of Hassan art wasn't about that bint Serenity.
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> 43m QP in NA
Oh shit, I could max a whole skill.
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>>182070564
tl?
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>>182072330
Pretty sure that was a red herring. Manaka is probably around but I doubt Ayaka is her. She acts way too tsun and detatched to be Manaka: Queen of Cheery Meme
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>>182072190
Joking at the afterword of a book is not a hissy fit.

You people blow everything out of proportion.
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So when are we getting a true collab?
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>>182072574
Apo collab may be soon
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>>182072550
I want to marry Manaka!
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>>182072353
I think it's supposed to start when the magazine is released?

Cause we should've heard something about a poll otherwise.
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>>182072560
>Muh Enkidu didn't get his super special effects when NPing Kiara
>Enkidu is going to end up being some anti-beast wank horseshit
yeah ok
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What is the problem with Septem? Yes, there's some Nero wanking but everyone wanked to Jeanne too in Orleans, all the time. The plot seems to be decent too, the idea at least. The characters are kind of dull because Nasu isn't writing a helper Servant, but is not unreadable trash.
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>>182072560
>You people blow everything out of proportion.
You just noticed?
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>>182072574
After SF, Turkey, Proto, Mahoyo and Apoc

And it'll be Madoka in exchange for letting Uro write a chapter with zero censoring
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>>182072712
>but is not unreadable trash
It is though
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>>182072470
not for a 5 stars servant
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>>182072775
> having 5* Servants
hah?
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>>182072712
The difference is in Septem everyone wanked Nero and in Orleans everyone wanked to Jeanne.
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>>182072712
> Everyone wanked Jeanne too

No they didn't.

They wanked Marie, they wanked Mozart, they spent chapters wanking Sumanai of all people.

Jeanne got extremely rare praise.

Nero got never ending praise. From everyone. Any character in Septem existed to praise her. Even fucking Alexander.
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>>182071505
No. Yes. Yes if you farm 30AP exp for prisms. Yes.
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>>182072871
I mean honestly I'd take Nero over someone who shows the slightest bit of interest in Sieg
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>>182072773
The idea of old kings, leaders and emperors of Rome rose to get their Empire and not let it fall (which will do in Nero's hands) is good so far.
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>>182072656
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>>182072712
>Yes, there's some Nero wanking but everyone wanked to Jeanne too in Orleans, all the time
Siegfried is more wanked than her you retarded braindamagedfag.
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>>182072256
Richard/Ayaka is fine I like them more than Arthur/Ayaka to be honest, but Narita giving the focus to their relationship in this all out grail war is a bad move.
I want Servants and Masters duking each other out, not Apocrypha 2.0.
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>>182071692
So what do you think pale rider even has as abilities and a NP/s
All he seems to do so far is to put people in his dreamworld.
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>>182072712
Not a single character in Septem did anything besides Nero
At least in Orleans you had a handful of characters that were actually characters
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>>182072931
Hakuno is one of the few existences on this Earth blander than Sieg and Nero wants his cock in her mouth
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>>182072943
>the idea
But its executed terribly
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>>182073034
Nero wants every cock in her mouth.
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>>182072883
98% of Marie's speech is JEANNE YOU'RE PERFECT AND FLAWLESS I LOVE YOU.
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>>182072956
Post source
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Lancelot before Arondight
>Thinking about it, unlike the three other Servants, the identity of the golden Archer and the dark Berserker is still a mystery. Saber and Lancer shuddered at the threat. If they are to advance through the Holy Grail War, they may get to cross arms with these two. But in front of these beasts who are beyond reason, just how should they get ready to stand up?

Lancelot after Arondight
>At this point he had already completely unleashed his true ability, and his skill with the sword was completely incomparable with his previous level.

Reminder Berserker Lancelot has never used Arondight in the FGO story and has only used a pole until now. Reminder 7 Swordsmen Tournament will be the first time ever Berserker Lancelot will be able to use Arondight without a time limit. Are you ready?
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>>182072893
No, excuse you.
>my hissatsu no waza as an assassin will be to be poisonous!
>wait why does no one want to touch me anymore ;_;
She's shallow waifubait and the worst Hassan bar fucking none.
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>>182073034
Hakuno is (You) though.
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>>182073084
That's normal for a french leader.
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>>182072294
There's this guy.

https://twitter.com/Amano_0008/media
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>>182071004

A+ Luck and Ex Mag. Bring it on boys.
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>>182073120
>and the worst Hassan bar fucking none.
I mean she was pretty good at killing people.
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>>182072986
Narita doesn't do endless fights. Read his other works. He focuses on exploring the human element. That's why Richard's spent half his time fucking around with Ayaka and why Enkidu for the most part has spent the war talking with other servants rather than fighting them.

There'll be a focus on character building and relationships simply down to the fact that it's the writer's specialty.

>>182072989
He's literally personified disease. He'll probably give servants the black plague or something.
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>Roman in Orleans
>apparently goofing all the time

>Roman in Septem
>serious and take charge, handing orders and instructions

What the fuck happened?
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So Sasaki gets his update in Ebin 3.

Does that mean Hassan will be in Ebin 4?

Will Abigail abuse him?
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Kiara did nothing wrong
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Reminder of the official three servant tiers

Servants
High servants
Grand servants
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>>182072229
Santa Jeanne is guaranteed before christmas 2017 and chacha will probably be rerun eventually because it gave a welfare. Ilya won't happen until next year at the earliest.
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>>182073318
> Roman
> goofing off
Camelot is going to be a wake up call for you, NA fag.
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>>182073034
Sure thing higashit
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>>182073318
>Orleans
>in company with a Saint who has revelation, can relax and he trusts her judgment

>in Septem
>in company of a fuck up emperor and is the Roman Empire who we know he has mixed feelings

It's simple.
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>>182073336
Hassan will get his update in Ebin 3 too. He'll probably be on the side of whatever will ruin the tournament.

A Megaro-type pallete swap of him, at least
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>>182071707
People will never like characters who are actually worth a damn.
You just gotta learn to live on this planet of shit taste.
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>>182073279
Just a thought, maybe the disease the parents gave her was the catalyst?
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>>182073397
I'm not a NAfag, I know he was just putting an act, but is surprising how much of it is gone in Septem.
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>>182073480
I mean, technically Shinjuku was his best chance at that.
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>>182073351
You forgot top servants you retard
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>>182073341
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>>182072712
I agree, I even enjoyed less Orleans and Fuyuki than Septem. Orleans seemed more of a clusterfuck than Septem, and Fuyuki and the pro;ogue were mostly infodump. And this is coming from someone that is neutral about Nero. Like I prefer Tamamo or Melt over Nero, but honestly I didn't hate nor found Septem as terrible as many anons and Nips expressed it.

Not that it matters, since it seems that the next Orders are way better written, and judging from the full translation I read of the CCC event, this seems to be true.
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It is time to answer the oldest question in Fate history...

http://poal.me/ivfsdm
Who is she, /fgog/?
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> Saber Gilles participates in the tournament
> Jeanne is in the audience
> Every time he starts to lose he looks at her cheering for him and BTFO's his foe
> Btfo's Sasaki, Sumanai, Lancelot, Rama, Arthur, so on and so forth
> Wins, gets a kiss on the cheek from Jeanne, bursts into golden prana from the PRAISE FROM HIS JANNUUUUU

How mad would you be?
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>>182073512
>People will never like characters who are actually worth a damn.
Maybe you're the one who has shit taste. Did you envisaged that possibility?
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I'd wank Nero's futa cock desu
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>>182073279
Like I said, Richard is going to die after he wraps his relationship up with Ayaka.
Flat is the one who's going to win in the end.
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>>182073696
10/10 chapter
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>>182073696
I'd hire you.
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Follow strange fake sounds tedious as hell, It's been like, what, 8 years since the original was published? Will it even be finished in foreseeable future?
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>>182073084
Jeanne is a literal Saint. As in the Church themselves admitted they were wrong and gave her that title. For a French queen that's a perfectly normal response.
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>>182073582
The bacteria they put in her was the catalyst yeah. That's pretty obvious. Tbh her life is fucking awful. I really hope she makes it out of the war okay and into a good home somewhere.
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>>182073696
10/10
I'd still burn him though.
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>>182073814
cute mama
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>>182073696
>Wins, gets a kiss on the cheek from Jeanne, bursts into golden prana from the PRAISE FROM HIS JANNUUUUU
You know jackshit about best Saber, fuck off.
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>>182073842
Especially for a french queen ! She saved the french royalty and the ancestor of her hursband.
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>>182073927
>You know jackshit about best Saber, fuck off.
People only care about their shitty memes, what's new.
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>>182073867
i dont remember it being explicitely stated though.
It seems most modern magi have a shit backstory.
I mean flat's parents tried to kill him many times due to him not having a magi mindset.
Sakura had her worms.
I don't think we have ever seen wavers backstory.
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>>182073671
Well, I think Orleans and Fuyuki were better written because the cast members stood out (in particular Cu, Marie and Mozart). Many meme over Marie because she's cute, but Mozart was easily the best Servant of Orleans. He was totally not what I envisioned in my EOP vision.
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>>182074057
Yeah but

> Born
> Lmao let's put bacteria in her
> Spends her life bedridden
> Goes into coma
> Parents take her to hospital
> Get all happy when it turns out she can still have kids
> She in her inner world knows none of it and still thinks her parents love her

I dunno maybe it's just because she's such a small girl, being born to nothing but suffering is sad as shit
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Everyone expects Musashit to win because she is the MC, but her match against Lancelot will be literally like Todoroki vs Midoriya. Despite her being the MC, he is going to win because she will make him forget all that Arthur bullshit and accept himself.
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>>182074065
I didn't expect WASSUP.
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>>182074245
>Lancelot will be literally like Todoroki vs Midoriya.
Who?
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>>182074245
Moosashi will lose to Our Sasaki and will admit she has a long way to go

Then they'll imply shipping between them only for Martha to come on screen and get pissed looking

Sasaki will shrug at the camera with a grin as the Seinfield theme plays
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So Paradiso, Purgatorio and Inferno

Galahad, Lancelot and Agravain?
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>>182074245
Literally no one gives a shit about Lancelot except shitposters.
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Nero will win but then turn into Mother Harlot and the survivors from the tournament will join up to stop her

write this down
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>>182073696

> After the chapter ends Gilles cards is upgraded from 3* to 5*
> His final art is changed with Jannu whispering in his ears and he now has a bright smile on his face.
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>>182074245
Nah. If anything, it'll be Lancelot who jobs to make someone else experience development.
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>>182074391
It's a reference to Dante's Divine Comedy, it means we'll get Dante Aligheri

> Agravain
> In a sword contest

Unless the sword is the pen to do the kingdom's paperwork with he'd have literally zero interest
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Yes, repopulate
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>>182074245
Lancelot will get distracted by Musashi's boobs and will lose
Screencap this
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>>182074420
And Nasu who said he was too strong and could easily take out other Servants. And Higashide who added a line to hype him and put him above all the other Servants up to that point despite knowing he would only last for 2 nodes.
And Urobuchi who said he was beyond the realm of high spec right into completely overpowered.
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>>182074245
The tournament is obviously going to get ruined by a pillar or secret organization appearance, and even if the final match finishes before that, you can bet that the 2nd place swordsman will save the 1st place from the pillar/real enemy and contribute a lot in the final fight.

And of course, if it comes to Musashi vs. Lancelot, nobody will care for the latter. The genderbent is going to be the one that gets tons fanart and attention.
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>>182073728
Impossible.
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>>182074609
You realize getting hyped up in GO doesn't mean shit or Tristan is literally > Everyone
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>>182074609
> Nasu says Diarmuid > Lancelot
Deermud Grand Lancer WHEN!?
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>>182074557
>Berserker Lancelot
>distracted by shitty tits
Nice meme

>>182074476
Musashit will experience development against him and still lose.
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>>182074557
It's believable.
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https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=63773069
Cute!

>>182074643
Less cute.
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> Not realizing Sasaki will be Megaro'd into being joined with our world's Musashi, creating the ultimate swordsman who everyone has to team up to defeat.
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>>182074665
Nice headcanon but Nasu never said that.
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>>182074643
That's disgusting.
Sakura's are supposed to be soft, with warm and inviting smiles. Not abominations that defy human anatomy.
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>>182074868
This is a correct post.
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>>182074858
He did actually

He said if Artoria never flipped Diarmuid's chivalry switch, they'd have won by letting Lancelot take on the competition while helping with hit and run tactics then btfo'ing Lancelot at the end to take the grail
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>>182074868
Yes, totally.
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>>182074497
If we do get dante, I'm guessing the inferno will be his NP.
Though I do wonder if he would get innocent monster due to the story.
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>>182074868
That's not the same Sakura
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>tournament interupted by dante
Key words for the chapter make it obvious
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>>182074998
That was just a farfetched scenario where it's equally as likely that he loses to Hassan.
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>>182075064
Passionlip is not Sakura.
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>>182074868
>Not abominations that defy human anatomy.
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>>182075069
His attacks will probably be based on each story. Fire from Inferno, Earth from Purgatorio, Bubbles from Paradiso.

NP will be summoning Satan from the end of Inferno to bite the shit out of his foes with it's three heads
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>>182074868
>Sakura
But that's BB.
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>>182075074
There are many Sakuras, Anon.
Just as there are many Seibas, and many Rins.

Only one of this girl though.
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>>182075069
Inferno is just the first part of his book, even if the most famous.
His NP should be about ascending to heaven and recording the three realms.
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>all playable servants are summoned in Chaldea
>everyone is eating dinner in the same room
>ask a question
>which one of you is the strongest?

What happens?
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>>182075201
I'd prefer ice from the inferno, since it's so rare.
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>>182075242
You don't know
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>>182075312
>Asking something as boring as who the strongest is
Who cares, asks who gives the best head or some shit
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I don't think Lancelot will be in EoR 3, at least not as one of the 7 swordsmen
I think that only Musashi and Kojiro are safe bet for being in the tournament
Of course other older servants will help outside of it, but at least 3 or 4 of the participants are going to be "newcomers"
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>>182075287
I know of the other 2, it's just that inferno is the most blatently famous.
I remember a theory is that he wrote the 3 as a fuck you to the catholic church at th time
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>>182075082
>implying Dante isn't the one inviting you to the tournament
>implying it's actually a tournament and not a fakeout by Dante to prepare you for Mother Harlot
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>>182075410
It doesn't really fuck with anything. Except he put Trajan in Heaven
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Sakura is worms.
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>>182075312
Gil:
> The answer to the question is obvious. We already know it.
Ozzy:
> I agree. There can be no doubt who is the most powerful.
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>>182075402
Arthur, Musashi, Kojiro, Roland, Lancelot and Sigurd already got confirmed anon
The seventh is either Nero or Dante
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>>182075483
Okay.
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Will we get more Michelangelo esque reveals soon?
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>>182075517
>Sigurd
confirmed by what ?
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Mash is a cute boy! CUTE!
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>>182075141
That's what they want you to believe.
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>>182075312
King Hassan stabs his sword into the table and everyone points at him

> Dokuda
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>>182075069
Inferno, Purgatorio and Paradiso will be his skills.
His NP will be Divina Commedia.
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>>182075517
>citation needed
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>>182075517
Confirmed my ass fagcelot
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>>182075402
I'm hoping for grown-up Ushi. I didn't like what they did to her in Babylon, so I want to see more of her.
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>>182075613
>>182075681
My ass
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>>182075410
It's not really a fuck you to the church but he does try to throw his fair share of shit to many people of the north centre Italy of the time
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>>182075478
>Trajan
Didn't he put a few popes in hell though?
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>>182075625
Jean is a cuter boy! CUTER!
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>>182075368
Sakura's hair is way shorter than BB's. It's the easiest way to distinguish between them.
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Could Trojan horse be a Servant?
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but will we get Virgil? or will he get the Michelangelo treatment?
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>>182075825
Do you really think that medieval popes were worth to be in Heaven?
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>>182075825
Not uncommon, but putting a persecutor of the christians in Heaven is strange.
He jsut don't give a fuck, it's jsut that trajan is liked as an emperor anyway.
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>>182075931
Why can't Michelangelo be a servant again?
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>>182075923
It's literally a wooden horse so no, might be an np though
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oops i fucked up and took BB to the ruler pillar because i thought she was bonused vs that and not avenger

IM SO SORRY BB
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Shinjuku was Phantoms join each other to become Servants.
CCC was extra but it still was "creatures of another world who cannot become Servants somehow did because Nasu."
Agartha was Phantoms possessing Heroic Spirits to become Servants.

Looks like the theme so far is "creatures that aren't usually summoned as Servants, now are."
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>>182075517
I see why for Roland but why lancelot and Sigurd?
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>>182075993
Butthurt over DaVinci's death or something.
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>>182076070

You are a bad senpai.
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Is 20AP or 30AP warriors/knights better for pieces? I want to take Ushi and Caesar to level 50 already
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>>182075637
Next you're going to tell me that Okita is Altria.
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>>182076101
> Phantoms possessing heroic spirits

That was only true with Drake, and even then there wasn't a literal phantom possessing her

It was all Schez's ruse, she was telling a story and everyone was forced to play their part

It's a servant forces other servant's to do a dumb stage play: The Ebinning
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>>182075993
He's not a heroic spirit because he's too buttflustered. It doesn't really matter. Anything can be a servant if you cram it into a class container. And with the whole multiverse shit in mind you can just say he became a heroic spirit in a parallel timeline.
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>>182075940
Of course not, but considering they were in power you can consider a fuck you.
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>>182075993
Nunchaku aren't enough HS-worthy
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>>182071004
My favorite servant is an assassin with a higher-ranked magic stat than Merlin.
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>>182076257

But he does skateboards too.
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>>182076040
if math and death can be a servant so can wooden horse
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>>182076209
> Saber is actually an ancient being
> She lives out lives, gets amnesia and wanders the world before gaining a new personality
> Sometimes her body changes to suit the new personality
> Sometimes it stays the same
> All in all, there is only one Seibaface living multiple lives

Ebin Twist Nasu
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>>182070418
No point when Medusa has already showed up with all his NP.

Summer Snake when
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>>182076242
No, it was actually that bitch, Drake was compatible with her. She and Heracles had the same problem. Sherz facilitated this because she's a writer, same how Andersen and Shakespeare were used for the phantom fusion too.
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>>182076242
Wasn't that kinda like what happened in the Prisma event as well? I don't remember it well, but it was something about the First Lady making copies of servants to populate her magical realm and do magical girl things?
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>>182075901
Superior Jean.
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>>182075825
Only one IIRC, but that guy was his political enemy as were a lot of the others Dante put in hell. I'm personally hoping we might get Brutus, Cassius or Judas.
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I want to praise Lady Wu!
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>>182076427
you're using outdated fake spoilers
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>>182076389
> Math and death

Archimedes? He's a real person though-

And KH isn't literally death, he's a person who became it's personification through a life of endless killing

A wooden horse isn't sentient enough to be a HS
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Isn't he cold?
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>>182076558
maxwell's demon and rape rider
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My wife Musashi is so cute.
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>>182076524
> Alter Jean
> Superior

Just because Jean fucked a dragon pussy once doesn't mean he's impure. Alter Jean's just a dumb Oujidere
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>>182075993
Nasuverse being retarded
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>>182076551
I finished Agartha last night, I didn't read any spoilers.
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Shouldn't all the Hassans count as King esque figures? They were the leaders of their people, no?
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>>182076856
Not every leader is a king
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>>182076665
Who is he waiting for? (You)? Billy?
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If you guys could add myroom lines between some servants which ones would be?
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>>182075312
Berserkerlot starts making toilet bowl sounds.
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>>182076856
King Hassan was the first hassan who made the cult, he's the King because he founded the order

Every hassan following was a leader, but they weren't really a people. Just a group of assassin's. Every one of them was eventually slain by the King anyway for not living up to his standards.
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>>182076391
Sounds like some Shadow of Destiny shit
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>>182076991
Sumanai and Karna

Like holy shit after how obsessed they were with each other in Apoc them not having a line is a crime

Archer Gil and Enkidu too
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>>182076995
What are his standards anyway?
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KOTAE WA DOKO E
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>>182076995
king hassan is just a guda made nickname
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>>182076995
Serenity's profile says she was killed by the general of some army though.
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>>182076991
Since Melt has one with Artemis I wish Lip had one with Bryn, a shame nobody remembers she exists to add something like that. I also kinda wish Sabers lines for the rounds were more personal for each one of them
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>>182077142
Y'know Zealot?

That's how all Hassan's should be to his eyes.

They have to be in it not for personal gain or for selfish reasons but for the holy duty of killing those who are against their radical code. Paying heed to the tenants and living a life of endless killing and endless learning.

Few could hope to meet those standards, but accepting the role of leader and not fulfilling them is heresy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANjDB7HqIJE&
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Post Servants sneakier than King Hassan.
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>>182077246
IIRC she got rekt the second she revealed herself, and it's all but stated that that was King Hassan.
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>>182076856
Cult leaders, not lords over land and people. King Hassan isn't even a real title, just a nickname you give him
that he accept because he doesn't care about how he's called.
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>>182076991
Musashi and Amakusa
Musashi repressed amakusa rebellion.
And since Amakusa 1637, I ship them together
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>>182076665
Solomon is a beautiful man.
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>>182074998
>they'd have won by letting Lancelot take on the competition while helping with hit and run tactics
Except that was Urobuchi, and he said injure everyone including Lancelot.

>then btfo'ing Lancelot at the end
With Kariya as Master that can only use Aronsight for 10 seconds.

So no, he didn't say Diarkek > Lancelot
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>>182077292
what is happening here?
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>>182076856
If you're talking about them because of Sche's preferences, the term king isn't ample enough to fit her criteria. What she seeks is people in a position of power in general. The term sovereign someone suggested a while ago would be more accurate. In this case the Hassan don't cut it because despite them being leaders of a group, they don't hold any real power. She wants a king, a monarch, a president, the Japanese Master who saved the world and made every Heroic Spirit their bitch.
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HASSAN NAKA NO HASSAN NARI
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>>182077359
>and it's all but stated that that was King Hassan.
So it's just your headcanon.
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Post your favorite Hassan /fgog/
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So what was Agartha?
Was it part of the Reverse Side of the World?
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>>182077421
Gudako is crying because she isn't perflat like Helena is.
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>>182077590
no, the prototype flashback mentions it. And it's literally said he's the Hassasn who kills the hassans.
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None of your wives are as pretty as mine
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Where is it, /fgog/?
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>>182077590
Not him but KH is stated to hunt down other hassan's sooner or later when they lose their way and going by his myroom lines, Serenity had lost her way

Whether or not he killed he or someone else is pretty irrelevant, he would've sooner or later
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>>182077649
I like this one best, sorry if you find that disagreeable.
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How many layers of NTR is this?
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>>182077359
>it's all but stated
>>182077710
>the prototype flashback mentions it
Which is it
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>>182076394
A summer snake would probably ruin SS-chan's savings for semiramis because she's a huge snakefag
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Even the woman that single handedly destroyed UBW in the West (aka Queen of Zero Secondaries) whaled in FGO.

Anon, why are you such a stingy fucker?
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What's the point of all those quartz that they gave if I couldn't roll Gil? Back to rerolling I guess.
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what if solomon is come back but he is not solomon but god in solomon body to be servant?
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>>182077857
>Even the woman that single handedly destroyed UBW in the West (aka Queen of Zero Secondaries) whaled in FGO.
Who
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>>182077780
Marie's a retarded bitch who let her people suffer while wearing pretty dresses, SoloRoman has no time for hoes like that
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>>182077649
Serenity, my dick chose her.
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>>182077857
>woman that single handedly destroyed UBW in the West
who? No one did that, fuck off with your literally who e-celeb shit
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>>182077857
>people still claim Saber isn't secondary bait
lmao
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>>182077918
sorry man,Roman kept fanboying over her in her first Interlude
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>>182077868
Then the nips would complain till that gets changed. You wouldn't believe how hardcore angry they get when people insult Roman in FGO. If DW fucked with them, acted like they were getting Soloroman only to get Yaweh they'd burn their offices down.
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>>182077780
None. Marie wouldn't cheat on me and Sol Roman is my bro and wouldn't try to steal Marie away from me. They're innocuously having tea party. Nothing to get upset over.
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>>182077649
here
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People always argue waifus who are cuck bait but what about husbandos?
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>>182077754
Not at all, she's cute, all Hassans are very cute in fact
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>>182077857
>Waver, Altria and Gil
Is this the holy trinity of secondaries? This and DUUUUUDE
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>>182077780
They would unironically be a good match because they get along. Their respective suitors would be on suicide watch though.
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>>182077375
I bet Musashi (true) will have it if he's ever released.
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182077857
Am I supposed to know who the fuck this is? Fuck you, you're not even getting my (you), cuck.
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>>182078094
Cu a hoe. Even when he got married he was fucking other women and men.

Fergus too.

Sumanai wouldn't be able to choose if he was in love with you and Khrem appeared
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>Strange Fake has 2 jobber Hassans to waste our time
Please tell me who allowed this
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>>182078146
>Rewatched Zero recently and it made me unironically want to roll DUDE
end me
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>>182078157
But woman Musashi is perfect for my shipping !
Even if reversed.
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Burd
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>>182077918
Why are Romanfags such rude twats? They shit on every single other character in the game, specially females.
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>>182076991
Mordred and Jekyll
The Knights of the round table to have more specific lines to one another
Mordred and Proto Arthur
Romulus and all the Emperors
Cu and Medb
Bryn and Siegfred
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>>182078061
>steal Marie from (you)
Don't you mean Mozart?
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>>182078312
You mean from Louis XVI ?
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Why are we still here?

Just to suffer?

Everyday I feel the quartz I've rolled, the failure's that came, they won't stop hurting...

You feel it too, don't you?

I'm going to make them give us our 5*'s

/fgog/, I'm already a whale
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>>182078245
>rewatch Zero
>hate DUDE even more
fuck even Alexander in Septem felt better than DUDE
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>>182078094
Everyone knows Solomon is the biggest cuckbait among husbandos but doesn't stop nips for choosing him/Roman as the most pairing doujin for husbandos with your self insert.
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>>182078404
Nice fgogalter post.
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>>182077649
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>>182078268
It's probably a Marie hater. I'm a Romanfag and I love Marie and most female characters.

>>182078047
This. They get along. Even Fou joined in.
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>>182078551
Nice phone post.
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>>182078415
Everytime I watch Zero again the banquet of kings just sounds dumber and dumber each time. How can people unironically like DUDE?
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>>182078702
Nice autism post.
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What did Delightworks mean by this?
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>>182078708
maybe they are pretending to be retarded?
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Gareth-chan when?
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>>182078113
Hassans are really cool.
>>
Reminder Narita wrote a shitty fanfic of Bleach that's worse than Kubo's work.

Reminder this is the trash that gilcucks praise.
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>>182078708
They like him because _____________DUDE VIDYA AND CONQUEST LMAO XD_____________
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>>182078708
DUDE and Waver have the best character interactions in Zero, along with Ryuunsoke and KUURUU.

He just happens to be wrong.
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>>182078864
If she isn't wearing the black armor she got in her myth I'm gonna be pissed
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>>182078268
>one person shits on Marie using her actual historical misdeeds, so they probably just hate Nasu's waifu whitewashing
>WHY are Romanfags so rude
You're the retard here. I agree with them and I don't care about Roman. I'm really tired Nasu tries to sweep under the rug issues with the women while he rarely does it with the guys.
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>>182078708
I like him even though I think Saber would be a better king.
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>>182078094
Only waifufags are obsessed with purity. Nobody cares if a male character has fucked tons of women before. It just makes them experienced and hot.
>>
I get really turned on at the idea of raping Sakura, is Shinji my soul animal?
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>>182078383
Till death do us part, she was fishing for Mozart's attention in Orleans. Music-chan won, though.
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>>182078978
>along with Ryuunsoke and KUURUU
you're fucking retarded, but I don't expect any better from a zero secondary
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>>182077857
I whaled in JP FGO, why would I spend money on the inferior version that can't even be assed to include the amusingly chuuni ruby text? I'm not a pleb like these EOP faggots.
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Why does the chink loli have imperial privilege if she's summoned in a form from before she became empress?
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>>182078978
He was less wrong than Saber.
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>>182077780
I'm actually surprisingly ok with this, as friends or pairings.
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>>182079472
imperial privilege is just being really delusional
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>>182079472
Because an Empress is born, not made
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>>182079226
He's not wrong though
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>>182079057
>even though I think Saber would be a better king
Ha.
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>>182079539
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>>182079539
I miss these comics. Whatever happened to them? Child Gudako best Gudako.
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>>182078997
>One person
If you actually browse this general you'll see it happens all the time not only with Marie

>I agree with them and I don't care about Roman
Then I clearly wasn't referring to you
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>>182079057
Saber was such a bad King that she wanted to undo her whole reign. Iskandar was a gigantic retard but his people loved him so much they followed him even after death.
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> Wanting a good king
> Wanting a good goverment
> Not wanting a nation defined by actions and not words, where the strong and intelligent use their brawn and wit to lead the world forward

Weak wushu, fgog. Senator Shuwen doesn't approve.
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>>182079667
>>182079779
>being a perfect king that only acts for his subjects is somehow a bad thing
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>>182078997
>actual historical misdeeds
The real problem here is you think anybody gives a single shit about real life historical figures or what they did in comparison to their Fate versions.

If it didn't happen in Nasuverse nobody cares.
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>>182079886
Go away /smtg/
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>>182079918
>perfect
I think "idealized" would be a better word for it.
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>people still like to meme about Saber being a bad king when it was confirmed over and over that her problem was that she was a king too perfect
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>>182079918
I guess you could say

Now you pulled the trigger..
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>>182079779
> A bad king

Confirmed for being a secondary. Saber was a fine King. She was the best there could be at the time. She wanted to undo her reign because she blamed herself for it's fall and hoped someone else could do better, but as we know now from Merlin no matter what happened Britain was doomed to fall.

Her knights still loved her and they're the only ones who really matter. Even Agravain, the most objective guy around, said she did a good job.
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>>182079918
It clearly is a bad thing considering it led to the complete and utter collapse. The king put their subjects first and instead of punishing Lancelot, they forgave him and never sought out punishment. And as a response, Lancelot went insane out of grief, anger and a need to be punished for his actions.

Great king.
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Fate kings are weird.
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>>182079685
He's still making them, but no one is translating them. Male master is such a bro.
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>>182076991
Ishtar and Ozzy for obvious raisons, Arjuna and Raikou since they Indra's relative, Heracles and Hector since Heracles sacked Troy.

>>182078997
>I'm really tired Nasu tries to sweep under the rug issues with the women while he rarely does it with the guys.
He does it with the guys too. Heracles is one of the biggest dindu in the franchise and both Cu and Gil are better person than they were in actual lore, even TA is a great guy despite being an assassin.
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>>182080026
It's pretty amazing the lengths people go to hate on Artoria, that's what popularity does for you.
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>>182080094
Lancelot going insane is Lancelot's fault for being a weak willed bitch who can't accept his sins and move on
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>>182080112
what's his twitter?
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I'm trying to farm the new mat from the Hydra and I want to die.
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>>182080094
That's Lancelot's fault for being a retard. Literally ruined the kingdom because the king was too good to him.
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>kingdom collapses
>one of her knights betrays her and kills several other members of the round table
>her son then also betrays her and strikes the killing blow
>Britain collapses
>but it's okay because they were just "too perfect"
Saber was a good king.
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>>182079226
Are you implying that it's not?
Kirei and Gil's conversations have decent content, but the conduct is absolutely godawful. Saber gets completely fucked of Urobutcher, Zerkalot isn't even a character, Deermud is the worst parts of Cu and Saber put into one, etc. Kerry has some stuff going for him, but he hardly has any interaction until the very end, and Ufotable pretty much fucked the conclusion of the LNs.

Team Caster are retards, but they're at least entertaining as one-note villains. The same goes for Team Waver, except as alternative protagonists. Of course, all of this ignores the main point, which is that Zero is just plain overrated.

>>182079515
He was just as wrong as Saber, and just as wrong as Gil. Iskandar was a dreamer that allowed countless lives to be lost because of his ambition; Gil led a successful kingdom, but only after his pride had cost him the only thing he ever cared for; Saber tried to keep a burning house standing when it would have been better to let it go, and carried the guilt of that to Camlaan.
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>>182080220
https://twitter.com/m_eguru_
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But did Artoria's people smile
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>>182080065
>Her knights still loved her and they're the only ones who really matter.
That's a pretty poor opinion to have, a kingdom is more than just knights.
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>>182079539
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>>182079779
The only person who thought she was a bad king was herself. Even those who rebelled against her acknowledged her greatness.
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Fate fans generally seem to have a really narrow idea of what a king might be.
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As someone who was waiting until the hostage translation to finish before reading Apo, I gotta say the premise in the first episode is really interesting. Too bad the whole concept gets thrown out the window for a boring ass fukboi homunculus.
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>>182080065
>Her knights still loved her and they're the only ones who really matter.

This is a horrible metric to judge how good a kingdom was.

>the people in the highest status and closest to the king are happy so fuck everybody else really
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>>182080285
>Saber gets completely fucked of Urobutcher
I feel like this is an often overlooked point. I thought Saber acted uncharacteristically weak-willed over the course of Zero when compared to FSN.
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>>182070223
Mordred looks so hot, maybe it's the red? But then again Nero doesn't do anything to me
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>>182080243
This so much. Isn't calling her the perfect king is an insult at this point?
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>>182080323
I would post Bedi's smile when he disappeared after Mufasa acknowledged him,but unfrotunately I don't have it
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I didn't vote for Altria
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>>182080394
Monarchism was a stupid idea to begin with.
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>>182080579
therefore it was a good kingdom
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>>182080593
Do you need help? Are you being oppressed?
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>>182080613
>republicucks
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>>182080342
>>182080458

Only the knight's understand their king in the long run and only they can tell you how hard the King worked.

Peasants can assume the King isn't doing shit

But if Agravain or Tristan tells you otherwise you can actually trust them since they're present to it

Agravain's whole thing even was that he figured the king would be a selfish prick but he realized the King was perfectly what a king should be, selfless and hard -working. Personally, I trust his judgement.
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>>182080243
Her being a king has nothing to do with her knights being shitheads.
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Saber has a lot of problems over the franchise and not just her inconsistent character. There's also stuff like how she's supposed one of the stronger Heroic Spirits and an amazing swordsman but is pisspoor at fighting and gets her ass handed to her more often than not.
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>>182079742
I've never seen this happening? Please Share your links if they are so frequent because I'm interested to see. What I've seen happening all the time:
- discussion about powerlevel bullshit between gilfags, jetfags and sometimes arthur/tristan/lu bu falseflagger with a dash of karna rarely
- assorted cuckposting
- does gil love/doesn't love humanity argument
- anti kiara/kiara bullshit
- someone shitting on mashu because she's the official love interest and not the poster's waifu, specially frequent from the most obnoxious meltfags
- sakurai/minase/higashide/butcher order/chapter shitposting
-na whining lately
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>>182080016
No, she was perfect. The issue is that she was so great everyone else felt inadequate in her presence.
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>>182080617
why is she so perfect
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>>182080323
kek
>>182080394
I think they just never heard about Charlemagne, Augustus or Qin shi Huang even a meme king like Suleiman the conqueror is better than arturia.
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>>182080285
>Iskandar was a dreamer that allowed countless lives to be lost because of his ambition
The people who followed him were cool with it, though.
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Saxon Servants when
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>>182080737
Wow Arthur doesn't look boring all of a sudden that's perfect even if the sword is not as pretty
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>>182080746
Peasents also make up the majority of the kingdom and are the ones most affected by the King's choices and actions.
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>>182080737
Oh look Lucius Artorius Castus.

>>182080787
Tbf, struggling with Sasaki who did nothing but sword train all his life and struggling with fucking HERKALES isn't a negative in her corner.

Kuzuki is but Nasu wanks kung fu harder than anything else
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>>182080746
You can work as hard as you want and be so selfless you'd put Shirou to shame, it doesn't matter for shit if your kingdom still burns to the ground.

Perfect king my ass. If your kingdom ends during your rule that should automatically disqualify you as "perfect".

Was Saber a good king? Yes. Perfect? No, pure fucking wanking. Might as well call Gil a perfect king too because he got over being an arrogant cunt, except nobody does that because that'd be stupid.
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>>182080832
>She was so perfect that it caused problems for everyone around her
So she wasn't perfect?
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>>182080787
>inconsistent character
it's really only Zero,the rest she's basically consistent

Also she's beaten many strong dudes too
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>>182080889
The dump I took this afternoon is more interesting than Arthur
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>>182080867
Going by Fate logic that makes him a perfect King then.

All of his people died but hey they were happy dying for him, just like the Brits and Arturia.

Perfect Kings all around.
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>>182080832
Again, I think it'd be more accurate to call her idealized rather than perfect.
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>>182080956
Gil has been called a perfect king too,retard.

Hell Ko-Gil too even.
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>>182080956
So

> Kingdom is doomed to fall no matter what according to Merlin who can see the future
> Lel let's blame the king

Wew lad
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Sane Herc when?
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>>182081115
I'd follow Ko-Gil any day. I doubt the adult Gilgamesh would have me though, unless I was literally the only one available for the role.
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>>182081115
Those people are retards too then.
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if the kingdom was doomed to failure why didn't they just push it elsewhere and change the name
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>>182079935
I give a shit when there's a drastic change as happened with Marie Antoinette. "France loved her?" She was never popular in her time, she was hated because she was an Austrian princess (something FGO isn't addressing), it would have been better for her character to get acknowledged she was absolutely hated from the very beginning.
It's even worse than Nero because Nero was at least wildly popular with the plebs. Marie meanwhile was really criticized by all, but /fgog/ hivemind dogpiled their hatred and criticism on Nero while they overlook Marie getting wanked and praised. I don't care about Nero either, but the double standard is annoying as fuck.
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Artorias's dilemmas with invaders feel kinda weak considering everyone of importance had a nuke sword for those situations.
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>>182081229
>those people

Nasu,you mean
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>>182081176
>it's okay because the wizard can see into the future and we're fucked anyway
Dumb.
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>>182081301
Because Marie was just some dumb bitch that got her head lopped off. Nero actually killed people.
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>>182080976
She caused nothing. They fell prey to their own weaknesses.
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>>182081314
Everyone of importance was dead or off being stupid and the leading invader also had a nuke sword
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>>182081296
Because Merlin is a dick.
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>>182081374
> The world is doomed
> Nothing can stop it
> Someone tries their best to stop it, selflessly doing everything in their power to if nothing else hold it off
> Fails because it was impossible to stop it
> LEL GUIS LET'S SHIT ON HIM FOR FAILING

This is you.
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>>182081301
Nigga I don't care. They're both cute, I wouldn't give a fuck if they launched a nuke on their own empires.
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Siegfried would have been a good king
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>>182081398
Nero was the Emperor, of course she killed people, but Marie also got a lot of people killed with the palace intrigue. She wasn't just a dumb bitch, she was a Versailles bitch who had people killed and disgraced for petty reasons.
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>>182081434
No, I mean the situations of "Destroy one village so the other nine aren't pillaged"
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>>182081301
> but /fgog/ hivemind dogpiled their hatred and criticism on Nero while they overlook Marie getting wanked and praised
She isn't wanked she just isn't hated, people would hate Marie too if Charlemagne said Marie's france was better than his because her people smiled or some shit.
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>>182081604
Not really.
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http://poal.me/343asl
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http://poal.me/343asl
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>>182081604
Though it should be worth noting those same people would have killed her for just as petty of reasons if they had the chance. Courtly intrigue was one of the worst ideas in human history.
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>>182081562
Pretty sure the only person that knew the kingdom was doomed regardless at the time was Merlin so you can stop acting like Saber was trying to save it. She didn't even know it was going to end in ruin, she just did her duty as king.
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>>182081374
>>182081562
Merlin doesn't have future Clairvoyance, he can do prophecies based on his present observations.
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>>182081603
Siegfried basically was King.

He was shit at it

> Hm a war's gonna start due to a disagreement
> BEST KILL MYSELF
> But not gonna tell my wife leading her to starting a war anyway
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>>182081650
They couldn't afford to damage the land and cause an even bigger drought than what was already happening

Also now that we know the Picts are some super Aliens,it's safe to assume their enemies weren't regular humans
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>>182081427
But if she was 'perfect' she wouldn't have acted in a way that brought their weakness to the surface.
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What kings/emperors would you like to see next in Fate?
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>>182081603
Beowulf has been confirmed as having been one of the best kings in Fate, and he didn't even want it. They just had him do it because he was the best at it and everyone else seemed to be dying.
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>>182081783
See how smart he is? Suicide is literally the best option
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>>182081761
I prefer Merlin living backwards to his TM version
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>>182081750
Dude,he literally showed her what ending awaited her.

He also told her again right before he left and she took off for Rome.

Though she dismissed it,after Camlann we can see she knew all along
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If Saber was such a good king Britain wouldn't be home to refugees. Checkmate Saberfags
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>>182081857
Her perfection is what brought their weaknesses to the surface

Lancelot himself literally says the reason he went mad in GoA was because how selfless she was made her inhuman which made him both love and detest her

Love the King who'd do anything for others

And detest the creature who'd let themselves be hurt if it meant another didn't have to be
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What servants would you guys think should be Saberfaces or wouldn't mind if they were? I honestly think that if we ever get a Charlemagne he needs to be a Saberface thanks to being almost french Arthur
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>>182081918
> Merlin living backwards
Literally modern fanfiction. The earliest appearances of Merlin have him closer to the TM version. Except the TM version cut out the part where he was meant to be the anti-christ but said fuck that.
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>>182082038
Being so perfect that it has negative consequences is a contradiction.
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>>182081783
He was a kind king.
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>>182082080
>Except the TM version cut out the part where he was meant to be the anti-christ but said fuck that.
Not really since like Fou, he could become a beast
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>>182082016
Unironically /Not her Britain/

Britain still exists but she talks as if Britain is gone 24/7

What exists in this day and age is many things but it's not her kingdom anymore.
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>you will never be so perfect you literally ruin everybody else's life
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>>182082080
That might actually be a thing, considering his "spoilers"
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>>182081661
>implying it won't happen.

>>182081731
Of course, but she's not this cute pure ray of sunshine.
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If anything good comes out of the anime it'll be more Mordred lewds.
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>>182082110
Life is strange. Contradiction's happen. Chaos can breed order and order can breed chaos.
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>>182080065
>Peasants all revolted and joined Mordred, because Arthuria was shit
>But the upper class people living in luxury all day every day were happy, so she was the bestest king to ever and can ever exist and anyone who says she's even slightly below perfect is A PIECE OF SHIT LIAR I HATE THEM
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>>182082268
The strawberry is literally the cutest thing about the entire Orleans story.
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>>182082198
King Arthur returning from Avalon to purge the invaders will be the best day of my life.
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>>182082353
If she really was perfect then there wouldn't be a contradiction to her being perfect because that's not perfect.
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>>182082384
The people were able to bare hardship because of the king and there were a bunch of shitty nobles that were afraid of the king.
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>>182082080
He's still an half dick demon though
And he does have indipendent manifestation so at least he had the potential to be a beast
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>>182082315
That and it'll be the only way experience the entirety of Apo in English since canonrap will literally never finishing volume 4 of the LN.
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>>182082496
dude that is literally me, just needs a bit more nihilism and a wicked sense of humor
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more /sadkings/ when
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>>182082384
>Peasants all revolted
No they didn't

Some did,some didn't
>But the upper class people living in luxury all day every day were happy
Quite the opposite,they were the ones who supported Mordred the most,since Artoria wouldn't let them shit on the peasants as much

It's explained by Merlin in the first chapter of GoA
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>>182082384
> Living in time of Famine
> Roman's knocking on your door steps
> Drought's n' shiettt
> Do everything in your power to help the peasants
> Can't possibly help them all
> They, like all uneducated peasants, blame the King as though there's more she could've done

They were morons. They should've tried living under Marie Antoinnete unable to eat because she needed to buy another set of 300 dresses.
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>>182082639
>No they didn't
>yes they did
Okay
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>>182082685
Hey she really needed those dresses okay? What would people say if she was seen wearing the same thing for more than one hour a day?
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>>182082685
Marie tried to reduce depenses though
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>>182082685
But if Artoria was literally perfect as the thread is trying to push then she could have helped them all.
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>>182081301
Where do you think we are ?
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>>182081886
Just the obvious ones to start with. Basically the 4x crowd.
>Qin Shi Huang (True)
>Caligula (True)
>Charlemagne
>Louis XI
>Louis
>Mithridates VI
>Khufu
>Tutankhamon
>Hatshepsut
>Casimir III
>Gustavus Adolphus
>Peter I
>Catherine II
>Elizabeth I
>Darius I
>Cyrus II
>Sargon
And many more. My imagination isn't the best.
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>>182082424
For him you're an invader through.
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IF ARTURIA WAS SO PERFECT WHY'D SHE DIE?

Refute this, you literally can't. I win.
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>>182082732
Do you know the difference between "All" and "some" bro ?
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>>182080787
I think there's just some misconceptions that get mixed in over time.

>Saber is the strongest class
it was only Rin who said that. And she only guessed that based on the past records of the other four wars. Despite how she missed the fact that no one has ever won one of these wars, and Shirou had to be the one to finally point out in HF that the system was bogus. Rin didn't actually know shit, she just thought she did.

>King Arthur is the strongest hero, or at least the near the top
Hard to say even that's a real quote. The most that can be said is that she's a strong hero. Definitely not the strongest. The only ones who called her the strongest are characters within the story who had no real reference to compare her to, except for six other dudes. Shirou cannot make impartical decisions on such a thing.

Even Nasu himself has called a dozen different heroes the strongest, so even the author is unreliable.
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Magical Beast < Phantasmal Beast < Divine Beast

> Diarmuid killed by a Magic Beast Board
> Ozzy has multiple Divine Beasts in his Reality Marble

Defend this Sakuraifags.
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>>182082786
She bought 300 high class dresses every single years

There's a reason the French call her Madam Defecit
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>>182082876
>the once and future king
It was just a flesh wound.
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>>182082861
seiba?
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>>182082861
you whale
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>>182082110
A perfect diamond is also fragile as fuck because the slightest shock can ruin it forever.

Saber was the perfect King. She was tireless, selfless, wise and courageous. But for the people around her it was like staring at the sun and to some it just became too much. It was especially bad for the Rounds, because they were meant to be equal, but the King was clearly way above everybody else around and while they all wished to live up to her standard it was completely beyond them.
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>>182082902
I fail to see a problem here in the first place, so I'm not sure what you want to see defended.
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>>182082902
>defending sakurai
>ever
He literally ruined one of the Kings I was most looking forward to
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Question: what are the identities of Rider, Berserker and Assassin from Riyo's Learning with Manga! FGO?
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>>182082876
She wasn't.
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>>182082856
I don't live in Britain though.
I just want to see it on the news.

I am Anglo though, so it'll be coo.
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If Captain Ahab was a 5* limited event servant

Would you be a white whale if you tried to NP5 him?
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>>182083070
Paul Bunyan

Some porn maker

Chink Trigger
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>>182082861
Probably. I lost count.
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>>182082896
To be fair what makes Saber strong is her Noble Phantasms. Excalibur is quite powerful even if straightforward. Imagine how things would go if she had access to Avalon in every war.
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>>182083176
And the fact that she's a rocket powered girl that can trade blows with Heracles.
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>>182083001
That's probably the most perfect way you can put it.
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>>182083176
>Imagine how things would go if she had access to Avalon in every war.

Simple; if she's the protag she wins, if she's not the protag then she loses. I can guarantee that if she's not the protag servant, then the MC would find a way around Avalon easily.

Jeanne's Flag barrier already pretty much works the same anyway. Aside from having one weakness.
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>>182083146
Where did you get that info?
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Who is the most Normanfag Servant?
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>>182082424
He'd purge the island of all the Anglo-Saxons, since the Saxon were the people he spent most of his life repelling.
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>>182083259
I always found it weird that Saber is as strong as a normal human girl when she isn't being powered up by her mana.
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>>182083381
>norman
who
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>>182083001
> they all wished to live up to her standard it was completely beyond them

Was there anyone on the Round table who struggled with that ?

Only Mordred kinda comes to mind
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>>182083259
>can trade blows with Heracles.
This really stopped being impressive awhile back. Even Shirou cut Heracles down more than a few times, and cut his arm off. Its the reason that people are now having to go back and try to make Heracles impressive again somehow.
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>>182083464
Lancelot literally went mad over that, Tristan had a bitch fit too
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>>182083398
That's bullshit that even Nasu regrets saying
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>>182082902
Are you saying he shouldn't he shouldn't have his beasts because it's unfair to Deermud? I dunno, why else would you bring up that guy? Kinda weird to say powerlevels gotta be respectful to him, though.
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>>182083392
Kinda funny how Saber said she has no problem with the Saxons as people and even that they'd play a very important part in the future of the island
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>>182082902
>Diarmuid killed by a Magic Beast Board
Diarkek was destined to die to the boar because of a geis he received before he was born. The strength of the boar was irrelevant, the boar could've been as strong as a dragon or a cat Diarmuid would've died all the same.
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Are defensive NPs dare I say, a meme?
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>>182083398
Even UBW and HF contradict Fate, just ignore everything that happens in it.
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>>182083652
Thats from UBW though.
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>>182083587
And because Ramses has nothing to do with Sphinxes and they should have been saved for the Pharao who actually built that. And don't give me "but he rebuild many old stuff in egypt" yeah he did and the sphynx wans't one of those
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>>182083638
Depends on the narrative need for them at the time

They can either be stupidly broken or stupidly pointless
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>>182082384
Garden of Avalon says Mordred's supporters were all the feudal lords Artoria put into place for their abuses. Where are you getting this information?
Mordred hated them too.
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>>182083652
That was UBW
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>>182083497
You mean Caliburn.
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>>182083638
FGO is all about defensive NP, and how its the best NP of all and saved the world

Its called Mashu
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>>182083638
Achilles shield is a big one with the supposed "crushing people with the weight of the world" and never having been used for that
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>>182083767
I thought that was instant kills

Because if they work as instant kills every fight becomes "He used his NP then the opponent died" so they can never work
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>>182083464
Kay called her out on it, Lancelot went crazy because of it and Tristan ragequit.
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>>182083638
How did Archer survive multiple times in FSN?
How was Karna beaten in Apoc?

>>182083901
>"crushing people with the weight of the world"
Dunno if that part was ever said. It pretty much just said he can use it as a weapon and that's it.
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>>182083176
>>182082896
The important thing about Saber is her Noble Phantasm. Excalibur is "the strongest Holy Sword" and that much has been attested over and over. It has equals that aren't Holy Swords ("the strongest Demon Sword") and is surpassed by Ea, but it's pretty powerful even then.

>>182083398
That's because she is a normal human girl until tapping into her mana core as a dragon. The other Servants are almost all demi-gods, except for Kojiro (a wraith bound to a Servant container), Hassan (also pretty much a wraith in a Servant container, going by the F/SN lore on the Assassin class), Medea (who was still a magical being), and EMIYA (who has shit stats even under the wars second most powerful master).
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>>182083734
>>182083790
Wasn't that from when the gang was running away from Herc? I haven't read it in ages.
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>>182083907
Instant kill is that too

Actually all NP's are that, fuck np's
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>>182082820
Who ? do you mean these poor souls that got transformed intro these Muv luv cheap knock offs?
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>>182084005
It's from the dumb part where Rin makes Shirou go out with her and Saber and they go hit baseballs and Shirou comments on Saber being a scrub weaker than Rin.
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>>182083993
>Implying you need a shield to begin with when you can Excalibust niggers into another dimension
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shirou or sieg?
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>>182083464
Caliburn did that. More precisely, Caliburn channeling Saber because Shirou had no fucking idea of what he doing and was merely along for then ride.

And we've had three cases in FGO already of "Herk is going to stop fucking around now, prepare your anus."
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>>182083998
But doesn't that mean even Servants with E Rank strength like Hans are stronger than her physically since E is still way higher than a normal human? Doesn't make much sense.
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>>182084137
Rin literally has a weight room and protein powder in her basement instead of normal magus shit. She's as natty ripped as a female can be.
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>>182084268
>Shirou had no fucking idea of what he doing and was merely along for then ride.
Isn't that how his projection works in general really
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>>182083914
>Kay called her out on it
What? When?

I thought he left like Tristan and then came back to help in Camlann.
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>>182084137
>>182083652
UBW is contradicted by the prologue of the game with Rin's point of view. Also the baseball thing was from UBW.

>>182084170
Even at the start of FGO, Excalibur was blocked and redirected by the weakest form of Lord Chaldeas. The entire reason she was beaten was because a shield was stronger than Saber's only way of beating people. She had no other ways to win.

If the shield is stronger than the sword, then the sword loses. That's the point of defensive NP; if you can block someone's strongest strike, then they are shit out of luck and just wasted all of their prana for nothing.
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Disabled servant when?
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>>182084340
And she still needs to reinforce herself with magecraft to beat up someone like Caster
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>>182084280
Ignore it. A lot of the rules established in FSN no longer are technically true. It's natural when a franchise gets this big.
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>>182084280
Depends on the summoning. I'm fairly sure Saber, as she appears in F/SN, was "Saber from when she was still alive". It's probably different if she's put in a Servant container - probably more of an "always on" for Mana Burst or something.

>>182084456
E-Rank STR isn't a fucking joke, Anon.
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>>182084369
If he traces the skills and memories of the user as well

Or if the sword doesn't have a user to replicate from then he's shit out of luck

Which is why he uses K&B, since they don't have a user and he gets to be all chuuni and fight with his own anime style jumping all over the place, throwing them around and whatnot
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>>182083746
>the sphynx
>the
Are you aware that the big sphinx monument at Giza isn't the only sphinx ever built? The sphinx motif itself is just lifted from mythology. Lots of ancient constructions include sphinx carvings and sphinx statues. It's probably one of the most common motifs of ancient Egyptian architecture.
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>>182083993
>Dunno if that part was ever said. It pretty much just said he can use it as a weapon and that's it.
There was a three month period of nonstop shitposting about it.
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>>182084430
Tbf going by the anime, she probably would've still killed Mashu eventually if Cas Cu wasn't along for the ride.

Against pure defense, you just need more offense
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Why do we hate apo?
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>>182084552
>Which is why he uses K&B, since they don't have a user and he gets to be all chuuni and fight with his own anime style jumping all over the place, throwing them around and whatnot
Did the Shirou who became Archer invent that style himself or was Archer also in his HGW and he literally copied himself?
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This all could've been avoided if they didn't try to make Saber a cute girl instead of a spooky murderghost that could snap your dick in half with a flick of her finger.
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>>182084672
wuz
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>>182084672
Sieg
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>>182084672
EoP's don't like the protagonist but will change their tune half-way through then go back to hating him to be cool at the end

Watch as the 'Sieg is literally our guy' posts happen in about four weeks
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>>182084704
Yeah but then we would only have Arthur and holy shit who would want that?
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>>182084697
Yes.
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>>182084430
>The entire reason she was beaten was because a shield was stronger than Saber's only way of beating people. She had no other ways to win.
Like Mashu could ever 1v1 her.
She had spear bro to aid her during the conflict and always has a hard hitting jabroni on her side in all other ocassions.
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anyone have arco wadas memo book scans or a link to them
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>>182084170
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>>182084841
>Sieg is literally our guy
Yeah, remember to spam a lot weeks from now to make everyone believe it.
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>>182084697
>Did the Shirou who became Archer invent that style himself or was Archer also in his HGW and he literally copied himself?
Yes

Don't ask stupid questions Nasu doesn't give a shit about please
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>>182084430
She was gonna push Mashu's shit in even after that if not for CasCu though
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>>182084672
Literally Siegfriedfags being very loud
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>>182082609
>king
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>>182084170
> what is: the end of Fate route
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>>182084672
its shit
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>>182084672
I don't.

I only read two volumes which were pretty good, specially the ending of the second one. All the Sieg hate makes me worried though so I have no hope.
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>>182082861
I have spent over $8k already.
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>>182071559
if it has imaginary element I'm using it to farm, don't worry she loves to be surrounded by big strong barsarkar and ROMA
>>182071876
its archer hands days and nothing really requires a lancer single target np yet, sorry
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>>182083998
And Ron, Prydwen, Avalon, her dagger, her dog and her horse. Also Invisible air is probably an adaptation of the tales of arthur's mantle of invisibility.

But a heroic spirit is a megend made manifest. Their weapons are part of that.
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>>182085038
Those don't exist
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If Wicker Man can literally pop up under you and kill you so quickly even Saber Alter couldn't defend herself, just how fucking powerful is CasCu? Especially since apparently that's his backup Noble Phantasm?
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>>182085191
I only read the first volume and I found it pretty boring.
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>>182084927
Sadly no one scanned it.
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>https://utw.me/2017/07/08/fateapocrypha-02/

open utorrent fags
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>>182085191
There's some cool shit in the later volumes as well.
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>>182077649
Will always be my number 1.
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>>182085294
He's one of the most powerful sorcerers in Irish folklore that isn't a god, and an actual combat caster.

People seem to forget that he was also neutered as fuck as a Lancer in F/SN.
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>>182085294
Apparently his best class even if Cu doesn't want to admit it because he likes to thing he is a good poker of people with pointy sticks. In fact he is really bad at poking people with pointy sticks and is a better magic thrower
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RARE
A
R
E
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>>182085398
Unfortunately most of the cool shit ends with "And then Sieg defeats it by..."
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>>182085294
The only reason Saber Alter didn't bust out of it was because she was still injured by having her own NP redirected at her.
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>>182085294
He isn't a jobber like his lancer self that's for sure.
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>>182085496
the strongest DUUUDE
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>>182085349
>utorrent
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>>182085496
>DUDE
>Papa Bones
>Moriarty
>Lobo
10/10
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>>182085496
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>>182085496
>This man rolled the story gacha just for Columbus
madman
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>>182078073
Spooky Hassan best Hassan
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>>182085496
> not using foot Shiki
He could be better.
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Can someone explain this game to me?
I downloaded it and have yet to find a single redeeming quality about it.

Not trolling. Genuinely confused. Why do you play this game? Is there something I'm not getting about it?
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>>182085496
>Grailed Shakes
>Max Grailed Moriarty
>Columbus
>Lobo
>Vlad
>King Hassan

Not bad
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SWORDSMAN
SAINT GRAPH LEVEL 99
A+ RANK NP
B+ RANK STRENGTH
B RANK AGILITY
A RANK FUCKIN' ENDURANCE
C MAGIC, BUT DON'T TELL ANYONE YOU TRAINED IN THAT YOU FUCKIGN' FGT

WHAT ARE YOU, A CASUL?

ARMOR

OF

FAFNIR

BECOME... UNSTOPPABLE...

WT SKILLS U GOT BITCH?

RIDING: B

GOLDEN RULE: C-

Mounts, treasure, bitches, EVERYTHING YOU COULD EVER WANT

BIG SWORD, BIG STATS, THAT MEANS SABER CLASS BICTHES

SILVER ARMOR, THE BEST LOOKING ARMOR IN FATE

AND OF COURSE DON'T FUCKIGN FORGET YOUR BALMUNG PHANTASMAL GREATSWORD

WELL, WHAT IS IT? ARE YOU GOING SUMANAI YET?

IT'S TIME TO FUCKIGN PWN SOME SERVANT'S
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>>182085825
(You)
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>>182085825
>Not trolling. Genuinely confused. Why do you play this game? Is there something I'm not getting about it?
Not everyone enjoys the same things. If you don't enjoy it then you probably won't get why someone else would.
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>>182084404
He was the realist dude on the round table but he was unable to make himself abandon his little sister so he got killed by Mordred before Camlann.
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>>182085302
>>182085398
>>182085521

I loved the hero of justice thing with Siegfried and Shirou is pretty great, Legend of the Dracula too.

If Shirou and his crew get more screentime I am satisfied.
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>>182085825
Can someone explain this comment to me?
I read it and have yet to find a single redeeming quality about it.

Not trolling. Genuinely confused. Why did you write this? Is there something I'm not getting about it?
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>>182085349
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>>182085825
It's pretty straightforward. It's a simple RPG with a story about a preestablished setting. If you like neither of those things it's not for you.
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>>182085825
>Why do you play this game?

Story and waifus/husbandos. Order depends on the anon.
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>>182085825
>I downloaded it and have yet to find a single redeeming quality about it.
Nah you're right it's shit, people only play it because it's fate stay night shit, if you don't care about this franchise it's not worth it.
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>>182085825
You need to read about 150 hours of the story about this game to enjoy it.
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Why can't people just accept that this is the supreme Fate OTP?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUakxELX_CM

>this level of animation in 2017
Sasuga A-1.
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>>182085979
How would Servant Kay shittalk Mordred, I wonder
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>>182085930
0/10 dead meme to begin with
agility would be a better replacement for dex than magic
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>>182086171
Because I'd rather Shirou died alone and miserable.
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>>182086171
But anon, I already do.
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>>182085951
Try me. Explain why you like it.

>>182086052
>>182086089
So it's mainly a story deal? I can understand getting into the gameplay if I cared about the story.
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>>182085712
Is it really so mad?
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>>182086309
Why? You hate him that much?
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>>182086215
Karna the unknown Pandava

More liek

Karna of the Cadaver LOL
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>>182086171
Because he'd find Lip's swords sexier.
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>>182086171
I do though.
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>>182086391
Go play granblue fantasy, is literally the same type of shitty game, doesn't have any story and people say that it's actually enjoyable. Don't even try with Fate.
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>>182086171
Because I like him with Rin better
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I fucking love Kiara! I love evil women in general! Post evil women!
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>>182085496
DUDE
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>>182084841
>Watch as the 'Sieg is literally our guy' posts happen in about four weeks
You shouldn't write what you are planning to do anon, it will make it obvious.
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>>182086171
Rin and Shirou were literally born for each other.
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>>182085649
Fuck off Misora
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>>182086780
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>>182085825
>No new IP
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>>182086171
Because I want Sakura for myself
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>>182086813
>>182086716
The only real problem I had with Rin and Shirou's relationship is that she always felt secondary to his ideals. I always got the impression that if she opposed him to much on what he wanted for his ideals he'd just go off on his own.
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>>182086171
Because I'd rather Wormslut died alone and miserable
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>>182086780
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>>182085493
He bested Scatach at the poking people game though. Cu can do most of his magic as a Lancer, he just likes poking better.
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>>182086937
Not even him.
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No homo but I must say Amakusa has a damn fine body.
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>>182086813
That's Shirou and Saber though.
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>>182087127
Wew.
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>>182087128
Naked Amakusa and Jeanne were the only good parts of the OP.
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How the blazes am I expected to self-insert properly if Gudao isn't wearing a fancy dress? The suit ruins my immersion.
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>>182086967
>>182086716
>>182086813
Rin and Shirou strike better as platonic friends than they do as romantic partners. Their relationship is more interesting in both Fate and HF than it is in UBW, in my opinion.

She's the best of the three as her own character, but not as good a match with Shirou.
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>>182087281
your opinion is shit
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>>182086967
Maybe that's true in a sense, but something that appealed to me about them is that same thing. They aren't people whose lives revolve around their partner, they each have their own ambitions but were drawn to each other by something else. And in a way EMIYA demonstrates that even when Shirou commits to his ideal and Tohsaka becomes an enemy he takes care of her in his own way.
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>>182087272
You have to wait for that Mystic Code.
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>>182086967
The whole idea is that Rin will ground him by giving him someone to come back to so he doesn't throw his life away as recklessly.
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>>182087281
I really wish there was a route where Shirou and Rin didn't team up.
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>>182087281
I agree 100%
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>>182087272
Isn't this non canon since she didn't get a chance to dance with (You) since she disappeared? Saber Alter cucked her once again
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>>182087281
I agree with your opinion
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>>182087450
That was what the Shinji route was for.
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>>182087476
seiba?
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>>182087281
This desu.
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>>182087128
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>>182087476
She came back at the end.
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>>182087476
Dude, what? Did you think she was dancing solo before she evaporated into fairy dust?
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>>182087281
Yeah I agree on that note. Shirou and Saber is my favorite pairing though since falling in love with the spirit you summoned and helped each other grow from your faults is the kind of sappy stories I liked reading during High School.
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>>182087432
Doesn't Sakura as a partner succeed better at this though? At the end of HF Shirou is living a normal life only worrying about the people that he cares about, which is the same life Rin pushes through all of UBW that Shirou should be trying to have instead of throwing his life away for strangers.
>>
What would Good Queen Bess be like as a Caster?
>>
>>182087793
s-seiba?
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>>182087432
The scene in HA with him and Rin trapped in the box seems to point otherwise, though.

Shirou getting with Saber means he'll stay who he is, because they reinforce each other's ideals.

Shirou going with Rin means having someone who will can hold him back from going full retard, but who is still mostly supportive, and will inevitably end up caving in before he does whenever he really does feel strongly. She can keep him from going full Archer, but not from pursuing his Hero of Justice goal.

Being with Sakura pretty much means Shirou is going to stay at home, have a family of strangely haired Japanese children, and die at an old age.
>>
you have to rape last servant rolled or you die. they only have the strength of their body type. Can you do it?
>>
https://twitter.com/hirame_sa/status/883742138231435264

Well then
>>
> Shirou x Artoria

Nah

> Archer Emiya x Artoria

Now we're talkin'
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>>182088103
What does it say?
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>>182088083
>Helena
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>>182086171
>OTP
>When Sakura probably love bullying Rider while she watched Shirou fuck her.
>When she encourage Shirou to give Rin a pity fuck once in a while because it makes her feel superior to her big sister.
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>>182088083
>Mephistopheles
>Looking at him the guy is actually ripped.
JUST.
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What kind of career would HF Shirou enter anyway? I could see him becoming a lawyer or something, so he's still pursing justice in a sense but without the danger.
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>>182088083
> FP Gacha Spartacus
n-nani?
>>
>>182088083
>Geronimo
Nononono.
>>
Karna looks like a manlet.
>>
Give me your honest opinion on the 3 original heroines /fgog/. No memes, tell me how you really feel.
>>
>>182088083
>Cuck fox
I don't think I can honestly high school girls are scary
>>
>>182088238
Shirou isn't intelligent enough to be a lawyer. The first time a criminal gets away with shit he'd bust a justice boner and ruin his career by shouting at the judge

He'd be better working in a ambulance or something
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>>182088083
> last servant rolled
I don't even remember who it is.
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>>182088238
Becoming a lawyer was exactly what he wanted before becoming an hero, actually.
>>
For some reason, all my friends disappeared from the support list even thought i still have them as friends. Does anyone know why this is happening?
>>
>>182088379
Who cares what /fgog/ thinks.
>>
>>182087798
>>182087963
I said "as recklessly."

Rin won't turn Shirou into a House husband, but she'll give him something to care about beyond his Dream. A reason to stay alive to fight another day.
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>>182088083
>Wu

It'll be easy and i'll enjoy every second of it.
>>
>>182088667
me
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>>182084697
Think of it like the Futurama episode where Fry is his own grandpa
>>
>>182088373
Are you blind Jetfag or are you just retard? Because I think it's both.
>>
>>182088379
> Saber
Better in every route than her own

> Rin
Kinda eh, I like her but she comes off as a real bitch sometimes

> Sakura
Couldn't care less

Give me Bazzett
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>>182088379
Mash, Solomon and who?
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so what do you think is the main
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>>182088379
They're all just decent. Not great, but not trash either.
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>>182088419
Shirou isn't smart enough to play people like Archer does either, but Archer is Shirou so it has to be in him somewhere.
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>>182088739
Sucker.
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>>182088667
Nerofags, they are pretty asspained about the fact most people don't like Septem and Nero even through it's kinda justified.
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>>182088778
>me
>Jetfag
?
Are you that fucking retarded?
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>>182088784
Bazett is just a retard.
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>>182088953
>shits on other characters then his beloved Lancelot
>not the Jetfag

Nice fucking try
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>>182088838
>>182088419
>ambulance
that reminds me of that doujin where shirou is a firefighter
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>>182088083
>last servant rolled
new servant or another copy of one I already own counts?
because either way I'm going to rape martha or jannu, and I don't like raping saints
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>>182088083
>Mata Hari
Can you rape the willing?
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>>182089037
So, you are retarded got it.
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>>182088379
Rin is the best from the perspective of being a lone character and is a great deuteragonist, as well as one of the best cases of a tsundere archetype character done right. Whether romantic or not, she'll be the best friend to Shirou for the rest of his life - assuming she doesn't single-handedly bring about the reintroduction of debtors prison.

Saber is an interesting character and a great heroine as an idealized romance. It's a good story, but one that I feel isn't really worth its own route. It really is true the Fate is mostly infodump and introduction - outside of a few scenes (Saber vs. Medusa, the climax) which are pretty good, the route feels like it would be better if it was rewritten into a three page long fairy tale. It's the only route that could probably fit into one 90 minute movie.

I didn't like Sakura that much until reading HA - and honestly, she got the short end of the stick. All of the interesting character interaction in HF goes to Illya, Kirei, or Rin. Sakura not as much, and it's only once she's actually shown in a "healthy" state that she shines. I consider her the absolute best choice for Shirou, and the one that's most fitting as a "resolution" for his character type - or at least, what he becomes in HF.
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Medea is giving me some BIG NEWS within my pants
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Migrate

>>181805505
>>181805505
>>181805505
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>>182088083
>rolled gorgon
gee, i dont know. you tell me
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>>182088379
Saber was some pretty wasted potential. I usually love female knights but then they gave her lame personality traits, plus her conflict didn't interest me, at all.
Rin was cute but I wish Nasu'd focused more on her having to constantly put up a perfect girl facade, the only time he somewhat did this was in heaven's feel and even then it was mostly to set up her wanting to reunite with Sakura.
Sakura needed more screentime. I honestly don't feel she ruined heaven's feel but the way she was handled definitely brought it down a bit, even if it was still the best route. I absolutely loved her in Hollow and think she had the most notable personality development of the 3 in between the 2 games though.
Overall Sakura>Rin>Saber
Ilya's still the best though
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>>182088379
>Saber
I like her but I feel like her route is rushed in the romantic aspect. Is kinda like what Nasu said in an interview about how you really need to remember that you should forget about her being a 30-year old king.

>Rin
She is kinda cool but not my taste, also fits better as a friend than as a girlfriend for Shiro.

>Sakura
Tragic and the most fitting romantic lead because of her story with Shiro, but SENPAI overload ruins her for me along with her voice.
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>>182088838
Archer's a Shirou that lost all his ideals and broke down over the course of an endless career as a agent of the counter force into a cynical nihilistic self-admitting murderer

He only became capable of being so manipulative because he stopped caring about saving everyone. In all honesty, he's not Really Shirou anymore. The existence that is Archer Emiya is too different after all that time.

Shirou always wants to save everyone if given the opportunity and nothing in everyday life will break him as hard as the counter force did to Archer. Even "giving up" his ideals in HF didn't leave him so open with playing with people's lives as Archer is.

So if he worked as a lawyer and the lawyer was bribed or whatever, he'd definitely pull some Seigi no Mikata bullshit and get himself kicked out.

Harsh reality.
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>>182089206
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>>182088083
>Lady Wu
I might be a terrible person, but I know I will enjoy this.
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SEANIGGERS BTFO FOREVER
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>>182088379
I like them all.
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>>182089298
>implying HF Shirou won't eventually be corrupted by Sakura and Rider as bad influences
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>>182089409
>who the fuck calls their kid "Mash"?

The same people that have Kyrielight as a surname
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>>182089409
>he doesn't want to smash Mash

Is Samuel Jackson a faggot?
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>>182089409
You tell them Sam
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>>182089409
Dumb nigger, her name is something related to the bible.
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>>182089409
wait is this real?
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>>182089409
CIRNO BTFO
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>>182089409
That's a nigger.
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>>182089409
>It's real
Holy shit
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>>182089521
sauce
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>>182089617
I need a link.
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>>182089563
Probably not although the man is known to like anime
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>>182089563
You can always go to twitter and check for yourself
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>>182088379
Saber: Used to hate her at first for being so hard-headed and her annoying relationship with Shirou. Now I've grown fond of her and even replaying the VN I find her really cool. I like her design too. It feels even refreshing now with so over-designed characters and girls with exaggerated proportions. I wish they remade her route.

Rin: My favorite of them. I enjoy these type of smart and strong characters, how she supports Shirou in the 3 routes and always could stay calm and think solutions for everything. She's at her worst in UBW though, and I don't see her as a romantic partner for Shirou.

Sakura: I don't really like the type of clingy kouhai girls, so she annoyed me at times too, but I think she's a great character and I could understand why she did everything she did. I liked her more in HA. She's the best partner for Shirou.
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>>182089617
>making me look
God I hate /fgog/ and my gullibility
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>>182089672
>>182089563
>>182089871
are you retarded or something
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>>182089871
I love you anon, please marry me!
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>>182089914
I already said I hate myself. I'm at least smart enough to actually know how to check instead of asking 'is this real?'.

>>182089979
I need to learn to love myself first. I'm sorry.
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>>182089871
Fuck off Misora
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>>182089957
Fuck off.
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>>182089298
No, Archer's fighting style and strategizing are both thing he developped in life and rely on his ability tor trick people.

I don't know why people insist on seeing Shirou as some naive idiot un aware of te consequences of his actions when he understand sur the flaws in his ideals right from the start of the VN and struggle to come up with three different answers along the three routes.

HF Shirou definitely wouldn't put at risk his daily life with Sakura over some stupid bullshit he could deal with safely.
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>>182087876
Parameters
STR: E
END: E
AGI: C+
MGI: A
LCK: EX

Skills:
>Enchant B
Supplants the typical Item Construction skill.
>Territory Creation B
She's got it and she's okay at it. The skill is made redundant by her NP, though.
>Hermetics D++
Picked up the basics of it from John Dee but never bothered to delve into the theories of magecraft or its more advanced applications. A casual dabbler.
>Innocent Monster C
Conflicting propaganda from herself and the continental Catholics have made her fairy-like.

NP:
>Avalon: The Unassailable Realm
Basically a powerful bounded field that replicates some of the properties of Artoria's scabbard. Justify it as having something to do with the Fairy Queene, Nasu's ideas about British monarchs going to Avalon after death and Arthurian influences on the British monarchy in general, and the whole shit about staving off would-be invaders from setting foot on England's soil.

Now I'm going to sleep.
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>>182090087
EoP shitter here. Who the fuck is Misora?
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Fuck me I just spent 120 quartz for Gil and got nothing. I still have like 20 quartz from free quests, if I don't roll anything until Halloween will I have a decent chance at getting Tamamo?
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>>182090217
me
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>>182088379
>Saber
I like her in any appearance she has that has nothing to do with her romance with Shirou. I think their relationship is fucking dogshit whenever its not portrayed as platonic and ruins her. Besides that however I think she's a reasonably interesting and likable character with a solid design, and I've actually come to really like the Knights of the Round in general too. But yeah, Fate and HA as a whole are fucking terrible for her.
>Rin
She's god-tier in HF and pretty good in UBW but besides that her appearances are mediocre - except for CP and HA, where she's comedy gold pretty often. But yeah, she's genuinely lovable in those two appearances and I think she probably has the best chemistry with Shirou out of the main heroines - along with the best design.
>Sakura
Legitimately my favorite of them. She's basically Kohaku done right and I think her scenes in HF are severely underrated. I think her relationship with Shirou is also very touching and sweet but just not as enjoyable to behold as Rin's since its got a lot more baggage and is way, way heavier. I sincerely hate the wormslut meme in a way I don't even hate the "RIN FUCKS OLD MEN FOR MONEY OHOHOHOHO" shit for Rin since it's legitimately made it impossible to fucking discuss her in any form.
BB is the only Sakuraface to hold a candle to the original too, even Sakura in CCC was shit in comparison.
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>>182082038
sound like a shitty mary sue
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>>182090217
my wife
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>>182090169
>I don't know why people insist on seeing Shirou as some naive idiot
Secondaries (including DEEN) + memes.
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>>182090243
Thanks for scaring me straight. Got to save at least 1000 of these.
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>>182088379
I think all 3 have their distinctive and unique charm. But I like Saber best.
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Hey quick question from someone who never read Tsukihime but do we know if Ciel exists in Fate still?

I know we got that one tease fucking forever ago that she probably gave EMIYA his red cloth in his timeline but with the universe separation and Roa getting roasted by Dantes I'm not clear on if its possible for her to have still done that.
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>>182090491
He won't make it
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>>182089957
YOU TRICKED ME
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>>182090491
what?
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>>182090491
49/100
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>>182090557
Dantes' drama cd only applies to the GO timeline afaik so it's still possible that in EMIYA's he managed to create Ciel's scenario somehow.
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>>182090217
Jetfag's wife
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>>182090629
>he doesn't know
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>>182090557
Ciel would always be born as a magical freak, just not a roa host.
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>>182090557
Even without Roa, Elesia had magic circuits that were insanely powerful. She's sometime like 100 times more powerful than Rin is.
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>>182090557
She could still end up part of the Church like Waver always becoming El-Melloi II, I guess.
Don't think too hard about it.
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>>182090816
>>182090819
>>182090825
Yeah but wasn't the Roa host shit what made her ageless?
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>>182090629
That artist is aiming to draw 100 Nito pictures before Summer starts in hopes of her getting a swimsuit version.
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>>182090819
How many people are like 100 stroger than Rin by now?
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>>182090629
There's a Twitter artist who's pledged to draw 100 Nito illustrations. As of a few hours ago he's up to 49. Pic related is the best one so far.
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Is it possible to get Euryale in the FP gacha?
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>>182090989
Link please?
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>>182090978
Rin always felt really underwhelming as a mage because outside her gems all she ever does is shoot bullets from her fingers.
>>
Who is the best hag in the game?
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>>182085496
>that low ATK on Columbus
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>>182090936
>>182090989
good shit
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>>182090978
Not many? She's supposed to be one of the top 20 Magus. Lorelei, the Director, and maybe Lev (who is a Pillar Demon). Touko isn't even more powerful than her, she's just a more effective killer.
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>>182091113
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>>182090978
Ciel is the only non-Servant, non-TA, non-Alien that we have that as a hard figure for afaik. There's plenty still much stronger than her like Loreloi and co. but she's the only """"""human"""""" magus that fucking dumps on her to that extent.
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Reminder Musashit will lose to Lancelot in a plot twist after she makes him go all out for the first time in his life
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>>182091113
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>>182091282
Lancelot already went all out against Numeral Gawain and everyone he ever fought as a Berserker with the sole possible exception of Artoria.
>>
nitocris is shit and overrated
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>>182091384
>Lancelot already went all out against Numeral Gawain
Not as the superior Berserker Lancelot

>and everyone he ever fought as a Berserker
>no Arondight
Nice meme
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>>182091282
That's funny how you are implying he'll even appear in that Order. Reminder I have this saved to laugh at you when you get BTFO and he doesn't appear.
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>>182091405
Thank you for your opinion
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>>182091113
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>>182091076
https://twitter.com/donguri_suzume0
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Baking
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>>182091538
Just like you laughed when Arondight had no swordbeam rite? OH WAIT :^)
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>>182091604
>page 6
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>>182091604
もう死んでくれ
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>>182087963
Saber provides him a goal to seek for her as much as his ideals, because of this he reaches Avalon.
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>>182090819
>GJ: I have a question about Fate characters. How high (or low) are the talents of Emiya Shirou and Tohsaka Rin within the entire history of the Association?
>Nasu: Rin really is a genius. Given time, she'll enter within the top 100 magi of the Association throughout its entire history. Shirou won't move out from being an magus apprentice, but as a spell-user, he'll be among one of the big specialists. Ultimately, he'll receive an evaluation on the same level as "Magus Killer" Emiya Kiritsugu had in his peak, maybe. If I were to put into simple numbers, Ciel: 100, Rin: 70-100, Shirou: 10 (under particular limited conditions, then 40).
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>>182091683
Doesn't change the fact that you'll still be laughed at and shunned when your cucklot doesn't show up. :^)
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>tfw got a job so can't shitpost, watch anime, and play FGO and FEH all day
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>>182091501
so is lancelot only strong because he gets a power up from mad enhancement? kind of sad desu
>>
>mats come out
>say the reason Lancelot uses overload like that is because the beam isn't particularly special
>also mentions how that's something everyone with a swordbeam could do if they wanted
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>>182091780
Rin being that much of a genius seems to be a case of telling rather than showing.
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>>182091805
>Gilcuck has been wrong every single time in the past
>still thinks he we will ever be right
Kek :^)
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>>182091861
You can now whale
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>>182091704
Baking doesn't mean immediately posting anon
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>>182091883
When are mats even coming out in the first place?
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>>182091883
Mats could come out saying in clear explicit and translated details that Lancelot is the worst RT with shit abilities, it wouldn't make Melvin stop shitposting.
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>>182088795
Moriarty.
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>>182091998
>>182091998
>>182091998
>>182091998
>>182091998
>>182091998
Migrate
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>>182091874
He can afford it thanks to EAM.

>>182091883
>he is still THIS delusional
Come on gilcuck, why do you think you will be right this time when you have never been in the past?
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>>182091585
why the brown girls are the best girls? fuck blonde
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>>182092149
>He can afford it thanks to EAM.
yeah but at the end of the day, he can only match up against strong heroes because of his mad enhancement. kind of pathetic really
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I can't even imagine what was Roman truly thinking when he got this offer.
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>>182091585
Thanks qt
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>>182084671
>Against pure defense, you just need more offense
There's an upper limit, you cannot spontaniously generate more attack power limitlessly. Excalibur Morgan was her strongest attack and it was repelled back at her. At that point she had no more attacks that could have potentially worked. No attack would surpass Lord Camelot.

Her only potential answer would just be making it a battle of attrition, but trying to use more attack would only make Saber Alter surely lose.

The greatest defense surely surpasses the greatest attack; so the only answer is challenging them somehow else.
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