/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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>>182042708
>I calculated I'll safe about 50 if I craft my own guns
first for advandced jewing

>>182042708
>adding crossout to the not /egg/ list
go home kerbnigger

>>182042708
>REM still not in not /egg/ list
>Robocraft still in the normal list even though it says crossout belongs in ded/rcg/
You are a retard.

>>182043689
Crossout is not /egg/
It's barely even /svgg/ because there's no fucking space. There's not even legitimate flight.

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>>182043764
>REM
>a game
where?

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Here we go again.

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>>182043796
>there's no fucking space. There's not even legitimate flight.
But you can reach space. You just have to want it really hard!

>>182043689
I thought crossout belonged to /wtg/?

>>182043689
>not enjoying the bants
Go delete your thread, fool

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>>182044773
You can't build shit in /wtg/. Crossout provides a way to vent AUTISM through building things.

>>182045205
Crossout is /egg/ FOTM, not /egg/ proper. By all means feel free to post it. FOR NOW.

>>182046585
It is /egg/ due to being post-apoc robocuck and thus grandfathered from the robocraft general.
Try again

>>182046723
But's less /egg/ than robocuck but definitely more cuck

I don't mind cuckout myself it's that one dumb frogposter who blogposts about hard raids being hard that gets on my tits. You know who you are. Fuck off.

Bringing this topic over from the last thread, Starship Theory early adopters: What would you change about the game to improve it?

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>>182047883
>2D
I'll pass...

>>182047204
>less /egg/ than robocuck
>while having a significantly greater number of structural parts available
Say what you will but it's objectively a far better game.
I would not, however, be completely opposed to creating a new "building arena" general, or /bag/. This could cover anything from Robocuck to Crossout to those two others on steam nobody cares about to REM and Machinecuck and it allows us to take Kaban as a mascot.

>>182048209
>>2D
>I'll pass...
That's a very shitty taste to have my dude

>>182048424
>Kaban
whats that

>>182048502
In English, it's just 'bag'.

>>182048502
Not sure but looking at earlier threads makes me thing it's something from that anime with the lewd animal lolis

>>182048502
SUGOI

segman

>>182048424
On paper, /bag/ is a great idea.
However, there is simply not enough interest to sustain 2 different threads, as I assume most people would stay in /egg/.
We are just about keeping this place alive, and I can't imagine if it was split in any way, as I doubt people would have much desire to funpost both here and there equally.
Besides, the interest in Crossout is waning, so it might not be necessary in the long run.

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Should I?

>>182052657
gambling is a tax on the stupid

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>>182052657
Yes, good goy.

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hmmmm

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>>182053147
looks like you lost a signal

>>182052657
of courshe

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SEND HELP

>>182052657
Well, did you?

>>182054140
You're on your own we're too busy shitposting

>>182053497
>cooling system of warm vaseline

>>182054140

You'll have to show us what you're doing.

>>182044537
Why blaming your lack of consistency on /kspg/ ?

Hey guys, I'm a fan of Kerbal Space Program.

>>182057378
That's nice, but it doesn't go here

>>182054140
Dude, you still finished it. Close enough for space corporation work.

>>182056994
>putting crossout in the not /egg/ field
>not kerbnigger sabotage
Ishiggydiggy

DON'T
RESPOND

>>182058441
If you were on the redditcord, you would know who made the OP

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>>182058441
Crossout is still in the 'Is /egg/' column, it's a joke

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>>182047883
Oy vey, it's like another shoa!

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>>182056556

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>>182059045
>mfw just tried to watch somebody play it
Every day i'm more and more convinced i could pull a enormous demographics with my only qualification being "having a functioning brain"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB2axlbHso8

>removing fuel tanks from my builds since copper is worthless
feels good to be 400 ps lower

I miss /svgg/

I miss /seg/

>>182062446
>>182062771
so post ess vee gee gee or seg stuff anons
be the change you want to see in the world
open your ass and your heart and mind will follow

I miss /rcg/
jk :^)

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>>182059308

My first guess would be the reactor making silicon fragments from silicon. You go all the way round the reactor each time you bring in a new atom. Looking at the overall view while it's running might help you spot any other bottlenecks.

This was my solution to that part. I also did the splitting into different outputs differently, so this reactor just has to handle one output.

>>182062936
>open your ass ... and mind will follow
I don't want change that much

>>182063736
OUT

As a containment general
Also that will show them

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am i cancer yet?

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>>182064557
ok yea this is fair

also hello /egg/, I've been gone for like 6 months so heres a spangos VTOL cargo freighter

not sure about it anymore, reckon I should keep working on it?

>>182064972
>should I keep making content
yes

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>>182064972
when I say that I dont mean to imply I'm anyone of importance just that I used to frequent and then didn't for a while

>>182065370
well I'll be making something and post occasionally regardless, but I'm not sure about this specific ship

>>182064707
no, to be cancer you would need to strap a hurricane to your car, design it so that it can be launched into the air then lock onto the enemies across the map.

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>>182064707
lmao
cant believe this shit works at 6.5K PS

>>182065645
Extend the middle ones or place the rear ones more inside, like placing the advanced rotor directly into that oxygen generator, because when you rotate those thrusters, they will destroy each other unless you turn off thruster damage.

>>182065853
They'll be rotating in sync though, and not rotating too far (they'd collide anyway if laid flat). The beefy rear hydrogen engines are enough to speed up laterally.

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my creation is complete

>>182064707
You always were

>>182067628
thanks :3

>>182066231
Then why not just have thrusters pointed down at all times?

>>182066427
Fuck off pardo

>>182068818
I was about to say "because thats less fun" but then I tried turning a rotor and now it perma-lists no matter what I do.

>>182058739
saved

>>182063229
Well shit, I'm at 5 reactors already, can't really split it any other way
...I should try making silicon "sticks" at the source and assembling the three into fragments, if only not to have to copy, but thanks

>>182068912
>spoongoggles
>fun
Made your bed anon, time to fap in it.

>>182069382
it is fun though desu fampai, I wouldn't have 450 hours playing if it wasn't

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>>182069797
>mfw I used to be able to deal with gmod, spengies, RA2 and the mexican shitposting game, but I'm no longer willing to deal with hilariously broken and poorly made systems

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>>182069153

You probably don't want to do anything more on your first reactor than you're doing already. If you speed up silicon into silicon fragments, your first reactor's going to be the next bottleneck. You want it going as fast as you can.

I did a bit of a hack on mine to pull off the 3 outputs with the 3 remaining reactors. The first sends a third of the fragments to the relevant output, and the remaining to the second reactor. The second. The second sends one of the doped versions to the output, while alternately sending the spare silicon and a fragment to the third. The third then sends the waste it receives to the recycler before making the other doped version.

I created an image to try and help visualise it, as I realised part way through it's probably a bit hard to follow all that.

Goys, is Space engineers playable in survival yet? Cargo ships are back, pirates too? WHat about room compression, etc? I dont want to try and start and get disappointed halfways.

>>182071435
Those things mostly work, usually only rotors and pistons and wheels are fucked. Rotors and pistons also work most of the time, but the few times they decide not to, they'll wreck everything around them. All of this is the same in MP except worse.

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>>182071435
>Space engineers playable in survival

>>182071602
Yeah, I never bothered even trying shit with pistons/rotors playing with a comrade of mine. You sure about pirates and shit though?

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>>182069153
Here is my shit.

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>3 victories 0 defeats

I think this is a nice PS spot, how many victories do you get in average?

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>>182073241
I think the little boy cannons are most valuable for levis, they seem to skullfuck anything due to their ability to traverse, so you can't drift into its shadow and run it down.

>>182071740
>you sure
launch the game and try it

>>182074262
I dont want to be disappointed and go cry in my corner :(

>>182074934
it's gonna end in tears either way

>>182042708
delete this

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>>182075413

>>182063106
I miss /ssg/ :^)

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>>182077192
It was the worst of times

in FtD, I can make a single mainframe with all the detection stuff, and the other mainframes with the guns and lasers that can still read the targeting data right?

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>tfw urge to colonize rising

>>182078968
In theory, yes.

>>182080694
We need to organize on a pub server the moment the game actually fucking regains stability. We'll launch two or three recon satellites, decide on an exclusion zone. use GPS missiles to enforce it, and then build missile frigates.
After that I don't really know.

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I'm playing the demo and this is the first level where you have to chain reactors. What determines the location and orientation of the previously-built molecule? It spawns in on the edge where I've drawn the letters in mspaint.

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>>182082276
Okay, I'm guessing it spawns in at the exact location where it was despawned in the previous reactor. That should be easy to work with. How'd I do?

>>182082993
Bretty gud I'd say, but seeing how all my solutions are starting to take more and more cycles I don't think I'm an expert on the matter

>>182081272
>>182080694
More like
>3-4 eggmen log on
>bully some guy
>build a lemonhulk for a giggle
>mine out entire asteroid fields and hoard U
>2/3 of the eggmen are ded IRL
>the rest engage in everyone favourite pass time: incompetency
>/egg/ either gets wiped after shitposying global too hard or doesn't
>either way the outcome's identical, everyone stops playing spengies and gets back to gas the marek memes

Prove me wrong fgts

>>182084043
it's still a fun lifecycle

>>182084043
Well there was that time WSA became the de-facto local government of a public server
People were lining up at the moonbase to register their ships and everything

>>182085319
tell me more anon
>tfw you will never be space police

>>182085319
Name some dudes involved, probably wasn't anyone currently alive and therefore actually able to tie their shoelaces

>>182085412
It's like that time we wuz gonna be simspeed police and instead ruined the simspeed ourselves by having giant pressurized grids

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>>182084043
If it's fun for a while it still counts

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>>182085814

>>182045205
do the leviathans use boosters?

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It's mesmerizing.

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>>182086167

Anyone seriously interested in /colonize/ git in here
We'll discuss the details
https://discord.gg/JCrGDc

>>182088358
Why not use the perfectly unused and already here, otherwise in permanent standby thread?

>>182088745
Because I don't have a bliming crikeyfuck clue who you are and where to find your steam page where I can annoy you to death if you don't show up on server X by Y time

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>>182081272
>regains stability

its a loop of fluctuating simspeed , lag, clang

>>182089163
A steam group, a spreadsheet, a piece of paper with the names of everyone who wants.
Or post the server and the time and count those who join, make it opt-in. Chaos makes it more interesting and variable.
I'd rather see an IP posted, join and wing it than having to see everyone's anime/furry/furry-anime profile pictures and off-topic, all for a week of raiding

>>182090506
Well let me know if you decide on a server to raep

>that factory racing map in cuckout
>that fucking jump before the final stretch to the finish line
>everyone just goes flying off this thing sideways or flipping through the air even though they all hit it perfectly

That jump is a host of CLANG.

>>182080843
I have Mainframe A with every piece of detection connected to it.

I have Mainframe B with a CRAM, connected via wireless to Mainframe A.

The turret is not engaging the target at long range. It has 100% detection rate, is being tracked and locked.

I tried replacing Mainframe B with just a connector so A was in direct control, but still the cannon is only firing when targets are close.

How can I make the AI shoot the CRAM as a long range artillery?

>>182094097
Build your shit right and hit your proper booster set while pointing directly up it and you won't have problems. You need to make sure you only use your inline-with-CoM set otherwise you're gonna have a bad time.

>>182094173
Define "long range" and "close". Exactly how far away are things when it shoots and doesn't?
Also, what's the muzzle velocity on your gun, and do you have any other guns on the turret?

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>tfw chode still doesn't have turboelectrics, free electron lasers, particle guns...

>>182094563
>no casaba howitzer
Seriously wtf

>>182095485
That's excusable at least since all equations on their construction are classified, and unlike normal nukes there isn't enough public info on them to extrapolate it.

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>>182095594
> isn't enough public info on them to extrapolate it
Litterally just a single pulsed laser with radiation. Its a videogame, I'm sure some liberties can be taken.

>>182095719
>I'm sure some liberties can be taken
Come on, this is chode we're talking about here.

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>been having a sort of rivalry with ddue in races
>kicking his ass every time
>he suddenly skips the last checkpoint and look at my car takign a bunch of screenshots
>show sup in races the next day with a near replica of my car that I spent so much time fine tuning to perfection
>still beat him

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>>182094375
The detection seems fine, multiple devices reporting lock.

The cannon is T H I C C because I wanted a long range artillery, 123m/s, 40 degrees elevation, 1483mm shell.

When targets get close to 100m or less then it decides to fire, but still misses the shot from that distance.

>>182096439
You can't seriously keep a straight face and tell me everything in chode is perfectly accurate with no liberties taken.

>>182096559
But it takes as few liberties as possible, relying on as much real world data as can be found and computed in real-time. Obviously stuff like wear and tear can't be simulated because computers aren't that good, nukes are an extrapolation, but casaba howitzers would be conjecture with how little we know.

>>182096559
Everything that can be, is.
No Casaba Howitzer warhead has ever been detonated and nobody knows anything about them except "they could crack the moon in half".

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>dude with no boosters gets 3rd place
>bring it up


Salty as fuck.

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>>182097680
>XD

>>182097680
>start race
>see guy with all purple boosters
fastest exit game I've ever done

ayo where da spengies at

>>182098684
>implying he can do anything between waiting to respawn after flying off the track into a wall and exploding
Avias are the only booster worth using in a race for a reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJM9zRJ7fJw

>>182099823
Honestly the first /v/GA was the best one.

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>>182099034
you can rebind the boosters to different keys

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>>182097680
>dude with no boosters gets 1st place
>everyone's having fun
racing mode needs classes

>>182100137
Anything above the avia burns too long to be useful outside the straightest stretches in the game.

>>182100186
4 steering wheels?

>>182100680
I switched to two steering and two dead a few days ago but I see no real way to control higher boosters properly. Maybe ONE blue in your COM thruster group, but anything more is asking for uncontrollably hektik skids.

>>182100895

I have 12 blues.

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What solutions are typically regarded best for transfer stations?

Here's my green circuit depot. Copper and iron are load-balanced, wired to one of the chests so they'll stop unloading if the chest has >1000, green circuits load onto anything that has a green wire.

I know the loading belts are suboptimal, I'm not at the point where I need to split the cars to keep up with the circuits yet.

>>182096548
Could I get a shot of the turret it's mounted on?

Does it properly function at long range when under manual control?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oYdmMYzLvw

>>182100157
What if boosters used ammo and could only be used a certain number of times? Maybe they could be reloaded at the beginning of each new lap. Then it would require a bit more strategy

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>>182087572
Is that the Falken?

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Who here /chuggachugga/?

>>182104196

Boosters are probably getting a massive rework anyways at some point. The devs have stated multiple times they dont like the boosters and how they function, and even had some big threads in closed beta asking players for idea on what they would like changed, or reworked.

Alot of players liked the idea of removing boosters and having "Nitro" tanks you equip to your car, where each tank adds more nitro time to increase your top speed. But burning nitro builds engine heat and if you overheat from using the nitro too much your nitro goes into a long cooldown time, like when you fire machine guns/shotguns too long and they do their cooldown.

>white nitro adds 5 seconds
>blue adds 7 seconds
>purple adds 9
>or something like that
>no longer any need to equip 12 huge boosters that make your car ugly as fuck
>just tuck some nitro canisters into your car, and manage your heat as you drive

But I doubt we'd ever see anything like that.

>>182105780
That looks like it was built in a post apocalyptic scrapyard by someone who knew of trains but never actually saw one.

Kinda makes me want to play Wasteland 2.

>>182104196
you would have to balance usage limits around booster quality

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>>182104259
Thats morgan, this is the falken.
I need to do a better coffin cockpit.

>>182106383
I'll make a better one when I get max part limit and 8 big wheels

>>182059417
'Successful', maybe. Enormous? Doubtful. People don't follow gaming channels on Youtube in their hundreds of thousands for competence, they want to see them fuck up.

>>182082993
Pretty good, you're below average on time and instructions.

>>182084006
I found with SpaceChem the best thing to do was to focus on one metric to optimise for. So I reigned supreme on time among my steam friends.

God I wish we could get all the improvements Zach made for Shenzhen backported to SpaceChem. Fuck, even a remastered version. I'd buy it.

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Look at all this variety we're getting

>>182094563
The dev doesn't want to add anything in that doesn't have at least some hard numbers attached to it.
Personally I'm hoping he adds in Graphene eventually, due to it being light, structurally robust, elastic, and a better electrical conductor than copper. I'd imagine it would be quite useful in the construction of railguns, capacitors, and armor.

>>182112187
The three things I listed do have hard numbers attached though, turboelectric reactors are just normal reactors, free electron lasers exist, and someone posted a paper about a test of a particle beam weapon in space on the forums a while back.

>>182112164

I find myself starting to hate Crossout now. Its too much bullshit stacked on top of more bullshit.

>>182112347
Neto, probably just a matter of giving him both comprehensive numbers and the time to add the stuff to the game. Last I checked it seems like he updates roughly once every two months. Those may very well be in the game in a month and change.

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>>182106479
Asides from railings, its the another only use for 1x1 wheels.

>>182112528
Same. People complain about drones all the time, but look at thunderbolts at wasps.

Is Space Engineers optimized yet. Do rotors work properly yet. Are the bugs they fixed actually fixed.

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>>182113615
What do you want to do in spengos anon?

>>182113963
Make big ships and big stations that don't lag my game to death.

>>182114748
>big
Found your problem.

>>182114748
>Make big ships and big stations
>massive empty shells
and/or
>massive laggy clone stamped corridors

For what possible reason could medium-ish ships not satisfy your requirement?

who /mvp everytime but dont win/ here?

>>182115493
>not wanting small CUTE speedster ships

>>182115493
>why do you want to build things in this building game that only exists for you to build in

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>>182117790
No really anon, sure got me there. Literally might as well go and fucking boot up google sketchup if that's all that matters. That way you can make ships the size of PLANETS! Think of how cool they'd be!

You're never going to be able to actually fucking use massive ships in any function in any game with gameplay beyond building, so why do you even want to build them in a game not designed to support the scale?

>>182118142
So? Maybe I want a mobile mothership that can literally store fucking everything, from all my ships to the contents of every single asteroid I come across.

Why wouldn't you want that?

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>>182118236
>Why wouldn't you want that?

I can give you a shitty essay if you want.
TL;DR: Framerate is more important than a floating garage, such size of large vessels is only to be used when needed.

Framerate/simspeed so you can actually do any of that at a higher speed than a slideshow. There's an upper limit of how many individual things can be simulated at relatively high-ish detail with current computing.
Multi-core simulation of independent ships was a step in the right direction, but that shit doesn't fly too well on accurate collisions between said ships.

It's very nice and all to have a massive mobile base, did it myself in FTD, but that wasn't just masturbating over the sheer size of the vessel, it was a necessity based on supply route distance and the problem of supply ships being intercepted and destroyed. I didn't feel like expending resources on protecting the convoys, so I improvised and took the idea and ran with it until it was a massive battleship/carrier with production facilities.

This only worked because it literally ceases to exist when not actively fielded, reducing performance lost to nothing.

Smooth, consistent gameplay is far and away more important than massive autistic scale of things you can't use. What are you gaining from placing ships in hangers, other than simply masturbatory purposes like a rich man in their vintage antique car garage.

I want viable air craft carrier ships in Spengies, like carry at least 5-10 small/medium ships as a base of operations for players

>playing video games

>>182119089
>TL;DR: Framerate is more important than a floating garage, such size of large vessels is only to be used when needed.
Which was the entire point of my damn question in asking if shits been optimized.

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Where the fuck is my Besiege multiplayer.

>>182118236
Just build a huge scaffold with various attachment points, cargo and refinery modules, some solar panels, and a drive on either end.
>>182119145
I built one that could do 12 tiny single person fighters that were essentially a cockpit with tiny mod air bottles and a tiny mod reactor, for full sized SSF's and the better optimization you could probably pull it off without fun-killing levels of lag. I wouldn't court disaster by putting two of those ships and their fighters anywhere near one another tho, and the fighters in my carriers always CLANGed occasionally resulting in holes in the ship and a bunch of pulverized fighter chunks floating around the bay.
>>182119331
Optimization has made the game better but I wouldn't call it a leap or anything.

>>182119331
No, then, it has not been optimised to the extent that you seek and never will. Literally not possible with their engine as it is, the devs as they've always been, especially in multiplayer.

I played recently on a server with ridiculous specs (128 core server grade shit with some stupid amount of ram, running on a 10gb connection, ect) some sysadmin was fucking around with, including some custom scripts further optimising things as far as they could go with things being assigned to as many disparate cores as possible, and while the server stubbornly refused to die even when twelve players were doing their very best to kill the fuck out of it with massive mechanized contraptions being flung around at each other and at planets, it was still nearly unplayable in terms of framerate/simspeed.

>>182119662
>>182119709
Welp.

Guess I'll just have to fill the hole with Skywanderers when it's ready.

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>>182119834
>Skywanderers
Got some real bad news if you want anything better than starmade: french Unity3d edition.

>>182119949
have you even played it nigger

>>182119834
>when it's ready
Is this your first week on /svgg/?

>>182119983
Yee, I have the full devbuild directory kicking around if you want a go too my man. Its actually slightly worse in terms of building, but I'm assuming that'll be fixed later. Hopefully.

Seriously, its building system is fucking terrible.

>>182120003
I'm a very patient man, Anon. Also it's either that or Avorion.

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>>182120143
>Avorion
I'm still upset.

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>>182112528

This

To make a part I want, I need copper, scrap and several other rare parts. To make those rare parts I also need the above

To get copper I need to do raids, to do raids I need to win, and I can only attempt raids a few times every day

Sometimes you will loose raids because your success depends heavily on your team mates not bringing stupid as fuck builds into combat with no chance of helping

If I want to do more raids in a day, I need to do pvp with a fuel tank which increases my chance of being blown up and must be protected

I need to win that match, which isn't always guaranteed. Even then the fuel tank has to also survive so if i die helping my team win, no fuel.

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>>182121513
Maybe you just need to stop frogposting and git gud

>>182112528
>>182121513
I don't know why you'd think Crossout was a good game in the first place. It was pretty obvious it would be trash from the start.

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>>182121671

Or maybe f2p games encourage cancer progess elements.

If I could make a once of payment for infinite fuel then I would

>>182121774

It has some shitty choices because it's f2p, ,even if you drop $30 on some ingame cash and choice parts you will soon hit pay/grind walls again for coppper and fuel and worst of all I've put almost 200 hours into it, and i haven't had this much fun in a video game for years but I know in the long run they'll add more stuff to spend money ON rather then to MAKE money, eg: Warthunder, World of Warships, GTA online

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>the crossout experience
>oh boy, I get to build my own mad max car this is a dream come true
>Okay, wheres the guns and engines and stuff?
>"oh hold on there road warrior, you need to craft some parts first!"
>craft.....well thats pretty easy i guess right?
>"oh sure. First you need to play a ton of PVP missions to get 450 scrap metal."
>oh thats easy
>"hold on, you also need 50 copper."
>oh thats easy too
>"but to get copper you need to use fuel!"
>oh, how do I get fuel?
>"put a fuel tank on your car to get fuel after every match, and only if you win, and your fuel tank survives the match."
>okay, that sounds annoying, but I guess its doable.......
>okay, I saved up the scrap and copper. I can craft a cool machine gun now right?
>"Haha, nope. Now you need to gather up the white common tier parts needed to make that machine gun!"
>How do I get those?
>"They are randomly awarded through PVP missions!"
>oh, more PVP. Fuck. Okay
>alright, I got everything I need. Time to craft.
>"hahaha, hold on there chum! You need to rent a workbench to craft parts!"
>Oh for fucks sake! How much does that cost?
>about 25 gold for 5 parts
>FUCK. HOW DO I GET GOLD?
>"Teehee, you can sell everything you just gathered on the market to get gold, use thatto rent the workbench, and then gather it all again to craft the part!!"
>Jesus god why this is awful. Fuck I hate this I just want to have fun!
>.....okay, I did all that. Its been like 2 days, but I did it all. I can finally craft my machine gun......
>"Hahahaha, you'll have to wait 1 hour for your part to finish crafting! But for only 5 more gold you can have it made instantly!"
>"Oh, and dont forget, youll need to make about 3 more of those machine guns, and a full set of wheels, and coolers and radiators, and other weapon types to diversify and...."

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>>182119089
In fairness, a mothership is probably the best way to go in MP. The odds of having to uproot and fuck off are pretty high in a server, so building your infrastructure around that is a pretty wise choice. Ideally you've got an processing and storage oriented vessel outfitted for extra-heavy lifting, a grinding and printing platforms, a small hangar bay, and points to mount your various main ships; TBM, frigate, maybe a transport vessel.

Alternatively, you could make multiple dedicated use ships then you can hook up to a dedicated transport frame.

A smart person would station the hub when not in transit to mitigate some of the lag and prevent unwanted CLANGing.

>>182123302
Gotta admit, the way they capitalize on frustration is impressive.

>Still playing Space Engineers
So you hate yourself?

>>182124323
The concept is great. The damage models are great.

The execution leaves much to be desired and there still isn't anything that can compete with it.

>>182124323
Why do you post this every time spengies is brought up?
You know full well masochism goes hand in hand with this brand of autism.

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>>182124565
>The damage models are great.

>>182123315
I like these ships, they're qt. Still, I've always liked flying hangars and I don't trust thin struts and conveyor locks in Spenger. Honestly I just don't trust the conveyor ports period after my last carrier type ship CLANG'ed violently. Then again it's been a longass time since I actually seriously built anything bigger than a corvette sized ship.

>>182125000
There is no other space/engineering game I can think of that has deformation and actual chunks being able to be shorn off a ship to float endlessly in space.

>>182125346
Well, ChoDE ships can be shorn into multiple pieces by really violent explosions and not only will their debris pieces persist but they will follow orbital paths as well, they also aren't made of cubes and when perforated by projectiles display multitudes of small holes that actually exist in the structure of the ship instead of simply being applied as a copy/paste generic bullet hole.

If there is a god he would create a bastard child of ChoDE and Spengo where you could use the exacting detail and multifarious different materials and internal components of ChoDE to build components that could then be built piece by piece as they are in Spengies and directly piloted by the player. God in Heaven would then design a robust and stable server where multiple people could play in a persistent map and mine planets or for factions or build CLANGhulks without everything running in slow motion.

I know though that even if quantum supercomputers become commercially available I'll probably die before such a game is created.

>>182126013
>I know though that even if quantum supercomputers become commercially available I'll probably die before such a game is created.
that feel

>>182123302
When you hit lvl required for first rentable bench you should have more than enough scrap that you can sell and still have some left over to craft

>>182126013
If we could just make ourselves move through time slower relative to the computer we could make the game arbitrarily complex while maintaining accuracy of simulation since the computers would have more time in their reference frame to calculate what happens in each frame
we need to travel at relativistic speeds

>>182101257
There's no point in having such small sub-factories.

Just go with a monolithic main-bus factory until you can't expand without tearing the whole thing down. At that point, start removing sections (iron plates, copper plates, circuits) and moving them to sub-factories. Use the space to expand sections which don't need a sub-factory.

You don't need to use the circuit network to limit storage. By the time that you switch to sub-factories, each train will dump its entire cargo at a specific offload, and you'll typically have multiple trains for each specific route.

>console version of Cuckout gets exclusive content

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/crossout-%27law-of-the-wasteland%27-pack/cid=UP4432-CUSA06848_00-UB00060000000000

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/crossout-harsh-weekday-bundle/brf3f42f2kpr

So I'm trying to preplan for once, and building a bus. How many lanes thick do you think I should make my steel lane? Is two sufficient or would you make it even thicker?

>>182132793
2 is enough for starting. Leave enough room to expand every product capacity.

>>182054140
noone made it past 36k, this special snowflake goes over 48k
come on, stop showing off

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>crossout dev ask thread

>Hi, any plans to address the current shotgun popularity (especially behind Jawbreaker cabins) 6k+ is dominated by these, especially as players team up to use them.
>Additionally, as I'm sure you are aware, Wasps played the same way make up many of the builds due to the 50% reduction in their hit box.

>"If the statistical research shows us, that shotguns are overpowered, we'll definitely apply some balance tweaks"

>>182133582
That fucking comma placement triggers the shit out of me.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_l7bj5bDcE

oh yes

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I wish, I wish for an open source FTD without that retard Nick and his leagues of idiotic fanboys in tow.

What about medieval engineers ?

>>182059308
>>182063229
>>182069153
>>182071075
last two reactors are uterrly useless, make it 1 that creates the molecule and sensed which output it should throw it out of, that way you won't need reactor 3 and 4 (4 and 5 will be the same one)

>>182064972
neat, but are the rear atmos enough far apart to not clang when rotating?

>>182134236
>CLANG filled abandonware with nothing good behind it but rope

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>>182134624
>rope
Wait, you can hang yourself ingame?

>>182101257
>double headed trains
no, absolutely no, use loops
>same cargo for different things
>sorting with filter inserters
make 4 cargo wagons, 1 for iron, 2(or3) for copper
use 1 cargo for exports
you get faster loads/unloads (if you have dedicated import/export cargo wagons you have both sides to load/unload) you can make the route more often, overall higher throughput
belts in the subfactory will be faster because you will be able to just use splitter and not rely on inserters

>>182121513
>>182122072
>frogposting
>extreme case of leddit spacing
>can't git gud, whines about it instead of improving the design
>>>/x/out/

>>182134624
mengies are doing quite well actually, the team is focusing more on adding some actual gameplay and anything else that will allow them to take a piss out of spengo dev team

>>182042708
story ?

>>182132793
2 with option for two more.

Purple science is horrible steel sink

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>>182120271
>I was a kickstarter backer

>>182136589

>>182137761
>>182120271
https://www.avorion.net/forum/index.php/topic,3495.msg19280.html#msg19280
>Co-Op Flying
>Alliance ships can now be flown by multiple players
>Added seat management for crafts to manage who is able to do what (steering, firing, etc)
Tell me, is it FUN
I don't have the latest build yet...

>>182138442
probably not
if i were to guess i'd say elite multicrew is better

>>182106280
Please, let be there Gold and Platinum Nitro capsules

>>182107253
I just have to look for computers being made to impact amorphous SiO2 while somebody screams about someone having less than average mental faculties

>>182139675
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation_of_English

>>182084043
>lemonhulk
What is that?
Is it just a giant ship that looks like a lemon?

>>182142097
Stop it, we don't get newfags here

>>182142373
I am new to this general.

>>182142097
>not knowing 40k enough to instantly know what a lemonhulk is
go read more http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Hulk
also spengo starting ship (the one with gravgen) is called a lemon
>>182142480
that's why you lurk before posting

>>182142480
The lemonhulk is this big yellow abomination. A "hulk" is a word from Warhammer 40K that describes a mass of derelict ships fused together by gravity. The lemonhulk was expanded randomly by several people so it looks like a hulk and it's yellow.

>>182142894
>>182142913
I know what a space hulk is its just that the lemon part confused me.

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>>182143357

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>>182143610
You call that a lemonhulk?

Why aren't there any 2d spesship buildan games? There's plenty of 2d modular space *combat* games, like Istrolid, but it goes from there straight to minecraft clones in space. Nothing in which to build a comfy little ship and fly about.

Am I missing some games entirely or something?

>>182143674
no, I call that a lemon

>>182144620
>Am I missing some games entirely or something?
yes

>>182144620
So, something like starbound or terraria, but where you build your own ships?

>>182144620
i mean, there's space pirates and zombies
i don't consider it comfy though

>>182144878
I have starbound, but there's no engineering in it. It's an exploration/dollhouse game, where you scour the universe for furniture to make little houses out of.

>>182144620
Thinking more about it, here's what I want: a cargo hold management sim.

I want to play the part of a ship's engineer, building logistics and processing facilities to handle the various things the ship does (like take on raw materials from mining facilities, and trade with factory stations) as well as reprocess life support for the crew, power the engines, stuff like that.

Kinda like Factorio in space, now that I think about it, but with more structured gameplay. Like if you crossed it with Elite.

>>182146886
factorio in spengos when?

>>182146886
freelancer?
or elite dangerous, which pretty much wants to be freelancer

>>182143674
Anyone know the block count of that thing?

a) page10 begone
b) I fear that crossout posting has been in decline only because of the 4th in murrica and once they come back from vacation the shitblogs will be back

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I think i just saw a guy in crossout that hat pic related as his car.

>>182152034
The orgasm of the 4th of July is well mopped up by now.
Could just be flavor of the month wearing off.

>>182152265
- for using a magic 8 ball in the design
+ for "ooga booga" didn't see that in some time
big - for 1 time propulsion, and not using ClF3

>>182152412
that's what I hope, I really hope it's FOTM, but what if they took a week off (so called long weekend since it uses state holiday with days off for extra break)

>>182042708

What the fug is the story behind that pic.

>>182152721
testing of empty suit showed it was a good idea to test it empty

>>182152767

What habben to it?

>tfw no /egg/ game about navigating and restoring/modifying SCP 2722

>>182153487
>SCP 2722
what?

>>182154191
http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2722

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I don't understand how rail signals work.

>>182154426
play the in game tutorial for signals
that's what taught me after I played it 3-4 times

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>>182154426
train only read signals on the lefthand side of the track according to their direction of travel
when you place a signal you split the track at that point into two sections, before and after it
keep placing signals and you have a bunch of chunks of track separated by signals

now, signals will turn red when their "chunk" of track has a train in it. Trains won't progress into a chunk of track that has a red signal.

So, at your intersections, put a signal on the left hand side of each part of it, before the branch, and one signal after the intersection on each branch to make the junction its own chunk (three signals total). Now trains wont enter that intersection if another train is already in it. Very basic but it works.

Just put signals every so often on your tracks so trains can use the same track but don't ride up one another's ass.

>>182154426
signals are always on right side of the track
if you seem to be placing them on the left, that's because rails can be 2-ways.
use normal signals all the time, except intersection entrances (just before an crossrail) so they can detect forward if anyone is occupying the crossing
2 headed trains are a sin
if you want to use loops (like on your pic) it's a good idea but each section of rail that will be 2-way must have signals on both sides (while the loop on only 1 side)

>>182154843
>>182154782
haha whoops I meant right

I didn't craft anything for my first week of crossout and I still managed to get parts. And that was when they were expensive.

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>>182123302
nice pasta, saved!
>the crossout experience
>oh boy, I get to build my own mad max car this is a dream come true
>I already played a few hours, time to craft stuff
>oh, I need more stuff!
>let's check the market
>checked, only goyims, sold a ton of DIY crates and some blue
>made some calc, crafted stuff for me and for the market
>easy gold
>now... what do I craft next?

>>182133729
I'm hard.

Why is no one talking of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_l7bj5bDcE

>>182156330
Probably because the animation seems prototype as fuck. Other than that the cockpit system looks great.

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yoshi or slowpoke?

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>>182155919
This, you get a free blue crate every week and there's always a market for them. That's a free 5-part blue workbench per week, with some shekels left over to buy copper or white parts

>>182157970
>kill... me...
why?

>>182157970
>http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2722

Tailless slowpoke probably

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jej
He fell off a cliff and accomplished nothing

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>>182103153
it's still a barebones turret, I can fire it manually without problems, I made sure it has the range. It rotates without issues and is very precise on manual when pointing at the enemy hull and waiting for the cannon to align to it.

It just refuses to work on AI by itself. I'm just gonna scrap it and try an advanced cannon

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>>182160242
turns out it really was the range of the cram. I made a quick adv cannon to try it out and the shell is now in orbit. Adv cannon it is then, it gives more control over the weapon IMO

>>182156792
It needs inverse kinematics desu

>>182161736
I can't tell if this is supposed to be a meme post based on the concepts history in this thread but that's exactly correct.

>>182156330
They better watch it with that ring world someone might get butthurt and lawsuit/copyright claim happy.

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>>182161668
So the cannon range is 4km+ I can blow up targets on manual, but the AI just sits there with every detection equipment pointing at the enemy. That's why I only use missiles.

>>182162984
do you have detection equipment in the turret

>>182162984
The AIs have engagement range settings, have you set all of that up?

>>182162984
Do you have enough processing power on your mainframe? Did you adjust the sensor pickup? Is the LWC connected to the turret?

>>182154426
Rail signals have three functions:

1. Separate track into blocks.
2. Stop trains from entering a block which is occupied by another train.
3. Set the direction of travel (a train can only pass a signal which is on its right; it can't pass a signal on its left unless there's also a signal on its right; the two must be *exactly* opposite).

When a train enters a block, all signals leading into that block will turn red, preventing other trains from entering the block. (The code actually allocates blocks to trains as they approach, turning the signals to amber when a block has been allocated to a specific train).

Thus, the only way that two trains (on automatic) can collide is if you manually place them in the same block.

Chain signals are like rail signals but also prevent a train from entering a block if the next non-chain signal on the train's route is red/amber. A chain signal will turn red if all exits have red signals, blue if some exits have red signals. Chain signals are used to prevent trains from blocking junctions; they won't enter the junction if they can't leave it.

In general, don't use two-way tracks if you have more than one train. If you must use two-way tracks, don't put signals on them (put them on the one-way sections leading on and off the two-way sections). Otherwise you'll end up with trains facing each other at the signal and you'll have to fix the deadlock manually.

>>182164960
I had a problem with signals, tossed enough at them and it solved it self after fixing a few deadlocks. Strength in numbers Arisen.

>>182164960
are you a trainspotter irl?

>>182163159
Not on the subobject. The LWC is under the turret as I've always done.

>>182163230
They are at the default setting of <unlimited>

>>182163360
I added 50 processing units, I messed with the sensors and clicked auto-adjust a few times. The targets are always detected with little error.

I managed to make the AI fire now, but it's so inaccurate that it makes no difference. Tried with the centralised sensors mainframe and with dedicated radars and rangefinders, still fires like a stormtrooper.

>>182166552
Is the barrel long enough for the ammo you're trying to fire?

>>182166552
>Not on the subobject. The LWC is under the turret as I've always done.

I'm not talking about the LWC, i'm talking about adding a coincidence rangefinder or other tracker things in your turret (and connect them to a mainframe)

>>182162591
What, is Larry Niven going to lift himself to relevance by suing some foreign guy over a concept presented in an autism video game that nobody has ever heard of?

>>182161976
it's both a spengo meme and a good point

>>182167846
We live in a trigger happy time with lawsuites, I hear about no name shit that gets C&D a lot. Or even shittty youtubes getting hit with claims.

It does look fun though, I hope it lasts.

>>182166552
If you go into global settings and turn detection off, does the gun get unfucked? If not, it's not a detection issue.

For that matter, what's the minimum required accuracy of your gun set to?

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>>182166916
yes
the coincidence rangefinder never detects stuff tho only the gimball and laser trackers. But the sensors are there and working. It fires without problems now from long range, but hits no more than 4 out of 10 shots at 2km range

>>182168835
Well yes, when you mount it backwards it tends to not detect the things it's not pointing at.

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>>182169008
nice
well it made no difference, still missing every shot. I think the only hits are lucky ones

>>182168823
I changed the detection source to 1, the white predictor line stopped jumping around but the cannon still misses.

on this screenshot of the ricochet you can see how the cannon always lands the shell 10m away from the the target

>>182170050
>on this screenshot of the ricochet you can see how the cannon always lands the shell 10m away from the the target
Do you have an aimpoint card attached? It could be causing your gun to aim at the ammo, which is below water.

Barring that, it's some strange glitch that some people get and others don't. I've never had it so I have no clue how to fix it.

>>182164960
I've found that if you use regular signals to mark blocks intended for a train to be able to stop and wait, like making a queue at a station, and just loading every intersection with chain signals, you can pretty well keep the whole system flowing.

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FYI heres my racing chassis setup I use in cuckout. You probably wont have this many thin light frames unlocked, but you can subsititue them for other parts you have, so long as the wheels stay in the same spots.

6 steering wheels. For whatever reason the game goes apeshit and makes you slide all over the place with only 4 wheels when you go fast.

Provides maximum control at almost any speed. Try to keep your vehicles total weight under 2100kg, and your boosters placed low.

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Daily reminder signups for /colonize/ are ongoing

/egg/-warbro-belyalowda team needs:
>spess pirates extraoirdinare
>people able to tie their shoelaces without help
>someone who can modify c# scripts
>someone to take responsibility and blame for when it all goes horribly wrong

>>182171287
Wait what's going on, I can tie my shoelaces without help.

>>182170050
> the cannon always lands the shell 10m away
Mmm, could you put stats on your gun? What innacuracy has?

>>182171287
>spess pirates extraoirdinare
yes
>someone who can modify c# scripts
yes
>someone to take responsibility and blame for when it all goes horribly wrong
maybe
>people able to tie their shoelaces without help
who the fuck do you think we are, velcro was invented for a reason

>>182171697
>I can tie my shoelaces without help
We're gonna invade a random spengies server and establish /egg/ hegemony
Also, [citation needed]

>>182171748
You're hired. Join /egg/ plebcord for roll call.

>>182171287
I'm up for it, but organize somewhere that isn't Discord, I've never seen a single good or even passable thing that involved that piece of shit.

>>182171989
google spreadsheet

>>182171910
>/egg/ plebcord
The one that was used for the /egg/pyrion stuff?

>>182172138
Or a steam group, since everyone's already got to have steam and it relays ingame status and should it be needed, group chat

>>182171989
>>182172138
It lets us easily asses our numbers and @ stragglers. You can create a thread in warbros spengies steam group if you must. This thread also isn't going anywhere, but you can't (You) every post.

>>182172247
No, the other one. It wasn't used for much other than shitposting and cuckout.

>>182172354
ok, give link I will try
I know one was posted a while ago, but those tend to expire after a short while

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>>182170769
Thx for sharing.
Here is another setup, it just requires 2 light frames. It has the same (frame) weight.

>>182170769
>>182173087
Oh, I used one 6x4... so it is a bit heavier...

>>182171287
>>spess pirates extraoirdinare
Eh, i know which end of a gun is to be pointed at the enemy and know that fuel doesn't appear out of thin air
>>people able to tie their shoelaces without help
Bunny ear only but can do
>>someone who can modify c# scripts
Never saw C# period, might be able to understand shit if babysat
>>someone to take responsibility and blame for when it all goes horribly wrong
My country national sport is shifting blame, give up on that, you're against the pros on that one

>>182173328
>My country national sport is shifting blame
so.. italy or austria?

>>182173328
>>182173029
https://hastebin.com/igexedoyef.scala

>>182173437
True

>>182171287
>belyalowda
Going to need to see your identification.
Your starship license valid?

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>>182174352

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>>182174618
Gonna need you to cut thrust and prepare to be boarded for inspection pardner.

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>>182174618
>>182175067
>tfw waiting for the new season

>>182175630
FUCKING SYFY GIVE MY SHOWS BACK REEEEEE

>>182176178
""no""

>>182176693
WHY

>>182175630
Show's pretty good, books are still better imo. Keeping it /egg/, I really am hooked on vertical ship designs in spengos now, that tiny corvette has five decks and if you added in a bunch more seats you could easily hold an entire server's worth of people inside it. I love it, if the game just gave me an arrow to show exactly what direction the ship is going I'd do away with the reverse thrusters and just flip and burn.

>>182171287
>spess pirates extraoirdinare
yes
>people able to tie their shoelaces without help
partially
>someone who can modify c# scripts
yes
>someone to take responsibility and blame for when it all goes horribly wrong
yes

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In Spacechem, how do you predict which bonds will form in potentially ambiguous situations? I drew a detailed engineering diagram to illustrate my question. How do I know which outcome I'll get? Will the oxygen double-bond to each other or single-bond to the nitrogen?

>>182178252
timer + gyros can do it for you

> entire server's worth of people
two spessmen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhKWeGXduzs
>martian ship
>red is normal
>blue is high alert

>>182178837
I don't think you can predict that, just put one side of each molecule on the bonders to get a link down that side, then pick it up and carry it to the other side to finish it.