/civ4xg/ - Stellaris, Endless, Civilization and 4X Games General

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Please do not bully the Riftborn.

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Don't be like Horatio, the blue berry farmer.

Be nice.
Be tasty.

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>>182039424
Third for ZELEVAS

>>182039614
Bullied every game.

>>182039614
*bullies*

>>182039614
*bullies sexually*

>>182039614
fag

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>>182039424
HEY ! I SAW IT WITH MY OWN 12 EYES

>>182040080
Never noticed the background. It's hilarious.

>>182029535
Blades of Stellaris Anon here,

Why not grab two fleets and use attackallfleets instead? Saves you having to swap empires all the time.

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>second stellaris match and I spawn near a fanatical purifier empire twice my size to my right and a Xenophobic Fallen Empire who bullies me to the left.

Where the fuck do the prethoryn even spawn from? They're not hard to kill but I've destroyed all their planets and they're still coming from somewhere

how would one combine all star with smashfull

>>182044138
Infested planets.

Check the situation log.

is it worth it to convert 100% of your troops into tanks once you research them in ES2 or should you keep it balanced between infantry and tanks?

>>182045586
if no one has aircraft yet, pure armor is the trump card since it decimates all infantry
once you get aircraft, just go for whatever comp counters whoever you're fighting

Some of you were complaining about saves
https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/forums/65-general/threads/27329-1-0-25-release-notes-preview?page=1
New preview build

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>tfw you're such a menace to the galaxy that even evangelizing zealots start allying with materialists
>it's still not enough, I purge three quarters of their empire and flood their old worlds with my people
It's my firtst time playing as a purifier, and this shit beats fucking around with federations or conquering planets the normal way by miles

>>182046013

Yeah. Too bad you get rekted playing on insane. Even if you start snowballing you are forced to purge so you are left with fucking nothing.

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>>182046505
There's always a cure for filthy xenos.

Is this a bug or are Vodyani incapable of chopping Guardians down? Also it never actually says my populations are at max, even though they are at max. The circle keeps flashing green, and I can't benefit from food to mineral conversion.

>>182048432
I think it's normal since Vodyani are not actually on planets

>>182039424
Essential mods for CiV besides Info Addic and enhanced User Interface?

>>182048817
Addict*. Sorry

>>182049108
Other than flavour mods? Not really.

Ha, Events And Decisions.

>>182049418
Any suggestion for flavour mods?

>>182049613
Pffft...
The Metal Gear Solid nations, the Hyperdimension Neptunia (the good one, because there's a batch of Neptunia mod using Civ's stock lines while the good one add its own text). Maybe the Valkyria Chronicle too. It depends what you want.
That reminds me, I'll have to check if there's a Warhammer mod.

>page 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt1M8iZNHpQ

>>182052574
Maybe civ 6 will get an expansion announced soon and zombify this general for a bit.

>>182052574
Given how nobody is talking about Dawn of War 3, I'm afraid of asking about it.

>>182052779
I don't think that's a 4x....

>>182052867
Read the OP.

>page 9
I wish the modanon was still around, Dawn of War has some nice mods to try but I can't play it.

>>182054971
Why not?

>>182055192
Because that computer can't even run Flash.

>>182045586
Yes. Pure armor is the best. Then, once they get aircraft, which will be about 50 turns AFTER you have won the game, then go 1/3 inf and 2/3rd tanks, both fully upgraded. Upgrading planes is a waste.

>>182056131
>Upgrading planes is a waste
You whot

How do you crush enemy tanks if you don't have any planes?

>>182056354
More tanks, most of the time your planes will be worse than just all tanks because of the AI's infantry.

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>>182056354
By having more tanks than they do

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>>182056354
Having the need to use them is pretty rare but still,
I had to upgrade my planes to crush the horatio spider tanks, fucking cunt used nothing but those.

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>>182056542
>spurdo meme text
>not spurdo

>>182056542
Their sauce was too spicy for you.

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>>182056627
Fug off

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>>182056751
no :D:D:D

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>>182056656

How long does purging take for hive minds in stellaris? I've got a planet where the natives have been being "displaced" for years

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>>182056542
>horatio spider tanks
Plz show me

>>182057118
Displaced only works if a nearby empire has refugee welcome as policy or you have worlds with free space on which the displaced pops are accepted

Alien scum.

Are there any good scenario mods for Civ V or VI? They can't be that hard to create.

>>182060102
Not what you're asking but the official scenarios in 6 are really fun. The poland one is turk tower defence

>>182056354
Because they cost expensive resources to upgrade.

>>182061006
tbf by the time you're upgrading planes its not like what you spend them on will matter.

How do I git gud at Rome: Total War? Is the trick just to wait to aggressively expand until you have heavy infantry, heavy cavalry and good missile units? I had less trouble with Carthage and their elephants than I did with the fucking zerg rushing Gauls and the "all phalanx, all the time" Macedonians and Greeks. Or maybe I should just try picking on an easier enemy?

>>182061841
Anvil and Hammer.

Anvil with sturdy units, hammer with cavalry.

>>182042619

Ah nice. Thx.

>>182062034
>study units
So I should wait until Principes/Triarii and heavy cav? Hastati get fucked pretty quick by hoplites in anything approaching a fair fight and one or two generals isn't much of a hammer. Also, how does that work with the "two-man lines across the entire map lmao" Gauls? I can usually manage their smaller armies well enough but when it comes to getting some serious conquering done I find it hard to engage in any kind of strategy except "form a massive line and grind them down while protecting the archers and nipping at their flanks" just because of how fucking massive large gaulish armies are.

>>182062909
Ideally, you shouldn't have to wait. If you can't get the enemy in a pinch, just flood him with militia and flank them with your elite units (or what passes as elite) while your archers are pincushioning them.


Oh, and bad thread by the way, this isn't /twg/.

>>182063080
Fugg; didn't even realize that existed.

Sorry for being such a faggot.

>>182063080
>Oh, and bad thread by the way, this isn't /twg/.
Please don't scare him away, we need the activity

>>182061841

The best tactic I saw on youtube some guy started by evolving the ports to comercial ones (for income) and at leaast one of them allowed for the construction of some kind of very long range siege ship (OP as fuck).

At the same time he did an exploit where he kept his generals phase out and when trouble was coming his way he would just summon at the spot several of them with their elephants (instead of moving them around).

The only faction with which I never won so far in the hardest difficulty is that greek state with the dog flag. Hard as fuck!

Shogun 2 is also hard as fuck as long as you dont play with the faction of that faggot small island of theirs.

>>182063332

>*phased out
>tired as fuck, shit english and typos

What do you guys think of Aurora 4x?

>>182063146
It's okay.

>>182063332
Fuck you, the Chosokabe are awesome.

>>182063184
Too late sorry ;_;

>>182065167
Oda is op as fuck once you get long yari and gun ashigaru.
As for Takeda, cavalry is really strong if you use it well. Yari cavalry will destroy ennemy's, and then you have all luxury to either bait som of his troops away to reduce pressure on your infantry, and then destroy his from behind.

Reminds me that I fell against an all cavalry army in avatar's campaign once, multiplayer if you don't know, and I couldn't do a thing against it. Gun and arrow cavalry are really hard to deal with

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>>182064052

I played some games as takeda but I seldom use cavalry, not to mention everyone and their mothers have spears. Fuck them.

The pirates are crap too. I prefer land units to sea ones.
The fags from the Island I mentioned have the easiest start because they are in an island but thats it.

Oda is the shit! Swarm the foe with hordes of peasants.

>>182065592

Yeah, I really didnt played much and it has been a while. It would be awesome of you could customize a clan of yours (color, name and bonus along with the avatar and starting position).

Its nonsense from a historical perspective but it would be great for the lulz.

>>182065985
Color and name and general can be done in avatar's campaign, but you only have the battles and no macro

>>182065753
More than anything Oda Long Yari Ashigaru are OP as fuck.

>>182065753
Chosokabe are the best.
They have bows.

I love bows maybe as much as I love spears.

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>>182065167
>deleted
hmmm

EL is comfy.

>>182067616
Amplitude 4xes are

>>182067670
EL is especially comfy.

>>182067712
Top kek. Can't stop the Bonaparte

Are mods/janny deleting the TW posts or are the posters doing it themselves?

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So...I got my ass handed to me all game, but AI can't into ENDGAME so I made it OK in the end.

Now the sauce is as potent as I would like it to be.

>>182063660
>struggle trying to get some professional gambler's hobby project to work on my computer, keeping in mind that he explicitly doesn't care if other people enjoy it
>realize it's a better use of my time to make my own spreadsheet space 4x
>realize it's a better use of my time to do anything else

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Please post more Horatio memes

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>>182070618
Horatio being a playable character in ES2 is the biggest meme of all.

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>>182070618
HORATIO

>>182071552
>horatio bigger than game
Uh-oh

>>182071552
>love slaves

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>>182071552

>>182071953
Best kind

>>182068230
Seems balanced

>>182071445
>route them straight to cravers' space

How would Cultists do with an island start? I want to play fantasy Britain.

>>182076128
>cultists
>fantasy britain
Oi

>>182076231
To clarify, I meant EL Cultist. Not some other meaning of the word.

>>182076597
Thats what I was oi-ing at

[ends eternally]

>space squids
ok

>>182076597
For someone who made such an incredebly subtle and hilarious joke, you sure are clueless about what you said.

>>182040080
what is this from?

>>182082662
Probably Emperor gets a text to speech device

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>>182082662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g-ydhg10UE

>>182071552
>need game
>endless sophons
>dude quite general

>>182085030
>>182071552
>engage enemy ass

Do you spend your pearls on winter effects, ever?

>>182085902
Yes, if you're someone like BL it can be worthwhile voting the things that hurt food and buff dust at the very start of notwinter.

Civ 5 babby here, does anyone have a general guide for Civ 4? I'm playing as Sumeria and having a hard time competing with the AI in every aspect but technology, but culture is especially hard to deal with. In addition, every time someone declares war on me I get my shit pushed in when the enemy rolls their stacks over and crushes my armies. What's a good composition for an army? I'm playing on noble, pls no bully

>>182085902
Yes
There are stuff that completely break everything specially with endless winters
Like no closed borders

is stellaris fixed now?

>>182086619
>endless winters
W-wait a second, what?

>>182086762
Lategame winters are very long with a very short summer.

>>182085902
I usually don't cause some of the buildings are amazing.
like the chapel of auriga, fucking +3 extra pop on a city with 3 pacified villages is pretty dank

>>182085902
If I see something radically atrocious like industry nerfs or an ice shelf in a middle of a nval race.

>>182086683
Don't ask silly questions anon

ES2 diplomacy is pretty shit.

>>182087603
My favourite part is form a super alliance with the top AI's and watching any threat of defeat vanish

>>182086762
>>182086838
Summers will last one or two turns in the last age

>>182086898
There are more than enough pearls to get both
Especially if you're smart and get the Pearl insignia that gives Auriga Affinity 3 early on.

And close borders sometimes, AI dont exactly eat all of your pearls but they dont account for them when pathing, so they will take them if its in their way, sometimes they take them outright, maybe only if they think you cant see. I don't exactly know their behaviour towards pearls in other empire's territory.

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>>182076128
Terrible. You won't have any easy access to villages until you research sea travel. And even that won't save you if Morgawr are there to dominate the seas.

>>182087603
Haven't played ES2 yet, but the very simplistic diplomacy is my main issue with EL too desu.

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>Fixed rare case of saves not loading due to sleep fleet action
Huh, so a workaround is simply not using the Sleep function.

>>182086762
Oh boy i hope you leveled up those heroes.
You do have a lot of heroes dont you anon?

>>182089047
>rare cases

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HAK HAK HAK

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Is there anything to do in Stellaris that's remotely fun other than genocide the galaxy?

Also when will sector AI be fixed?

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>>182068230
excellent horatio'ing, anon

>>182091017
There is no point clearing that blocker tile atm as there is already a tile for a pop to grow in, best to do it later and build something else

>>182076128
>>182088381
if you want to do naval cultists, you want to be on the shoreline of a continent, ideally in a region that will let you level up the cargo docks
you can convert fomorians, but to do so you need to get transport ships, which take quite a bit; as such, you want to expand on land quote a bit before focusing your attention on the seas

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1) Should 4X space games have pirate factions? 2) What purpose do they serve? 3) How should they be?

4) Did any 4X do pirates right?

ES2 pirates are absurd: only attack human player. Spawn endlessly, with no home base to justify their existence. No interesting interaction with them. You need to exterminate them wherever you find them. And you just have to waste FIDS on maintaining garrisons even in system which are far from the frontlines of wars with Major Factions. And they're not fun in any way.

>>182092098
Sins of a solar empire did them pretty good.

Should be a mid/early game mob and can scale with the empires if left unchecked. But can also be bribed and negotiated with, ie privateers

>>182092793
Sounds like Distant Worlds as well.

>>182092098
Pirates in space 4xes are barbarian surrogates and called pirates because its a staple of space sci-fi.

I think the issue is that combat in space 4xes tends to not be that good especially not in the early game which is the only segment they're really a threat and with how 'terrain' tends to work they're far more of a nuisance than something you have to flick at.

I'd rather they served as some sort of security rating. Rather than spawning out of nowhere they'd form bases near your outlying colonies, they'd primarily raid shipping (even if it makes their primary function a modifier) and actually develop and if left alone long enough form a full faction/nation. You'd be able to deal with them by researching and building anti-piracy/security buildings so you wouldn't need to play whack a mole with your fleets but you would be able to launch crackdowns with actual military fleets. You'd also be able to negotiate with them and potentially even turn them into privateers or just integrate them into your colonies.

Effectively turn them into something that starts coming out of your colonies if you don't develop them properly rather than space barbarians that are just a nuisance.

>>182087603
The game is designed for PVP, so the diplomacy is mainly there to work between humans.

Dido conquered my Washington capital. I analysed my mistakes.
1. Insufficient army. I try to maximise GPT, but I paid too high a price for it.
2. Not checking her army.
I should have put a scout near the border.

How do I check military might of each player inc CiV? I would like to see the list of "people with the pointiest sticks" on demand. Is that info somewhere? I'm using Enhanced User Interface and Info addict.

>>182086545
Compared to Civ 5, you want to have a lot of units. You can stack your units, so a proper army should not only be able to stretch across the continent but also be several units deep (like in Hearts of Iron).

Try learning from your experiences and doing what the enemy does to defeat you. Why do they have such a big army? Is it because they have more cities, or more industry per city?

Failing that, you can just play by rote and build a library and temple in each city, and after that make sure you have a worker, and after that build military. Obviously when you get the tech for industrial stuff you should build them as well. You don't have to always be settling, but don't let your enemies take land that is rightfully yours (all of it). You don't have to pay attention to the religion or corporation systems as long as you're doing a good job conquering people.

Endless space 2 has a problem. Stellaris has it too:

Once you have a certain military advantage, it costs you nothing to destroy the opponents full army.

For example: I often get gun-stuffed hunters combined with fleet repair/shield/movement protectors, and after a certain point I just don't lose ships anymore while destroying one enemy fleet a turn.

A slight military advantage just snowballs to crazytown.

I'm not sure how to fix this, but having a huge army should not be a high initial cost and then a trivial sustainment cost, because as soon as you get an early military advantage (looking at you, cravers), you can just use it to rolfrape the enemies over and over.

Please someone give me a fun idea for a Stellaris run

>>182088381
>>182091741
Thats unfortunate. What about custom cultist starting with shipyards tech? That seems like it would mostly solve the early game problem, and let you work with the fomorians immediately.

>>182076128
There is no possible worst start for cultists than an island start.

>>182093687
>I often get gun-stuffed hunters combined with fleet repair/shield/movement protectors, and after a certain point I just don't lose ships anymore while destroying one enemy fleet a turn.

that's not really true unless you have a considerable advantage

against a similar tech opponent, you'll still be bleeding ships because of you can only have so many ships in a single fleet

>>182093046
I like how Fall from Heaven 2 handled goblins. They have a little encampment and churn out weak goblins, so it's tempting to just grind them for XP (since unit experience is a big deal in FfH2). However, they also increase their power and eventually they're a real threat almost on the level of a civilization, so you find yourself at war with something you can't negotiate with and which might even take one of your cities.

>>182093687
Total War tried to fix snowballing with Realm Divide. Stellaris with the crises.

It's really hard to have something in place that prevents snowballing. It's just unnatural, if you start winning you will keep winning unless something fundamentally changes. That something can't be AI getting smarter or suddenly starting to use effective counter-tactics because that's an impossible programming challenge.

we civ 6 here?

>>182094310
waiting for an expansion

I guess I haven't done fanatic purifiers yet..

>>182094005
>that's not really true unless you have a considerable advantage
>against a similar tech opponent, you'll still be bleeding ships because of you can only have so many ships in a single fleet
Not if you have the "repair you fleet each phase" red support module. All my ships stay at full health, and when I do lose one or two it is easily replaced faster than he can replace his entire fleet.

>>182094206
> if you start winning you will keep winning unless something fundamentally changes.
Which is true because logistical and sustained costs are hard for people to understand and don't exist in most games. You pay for a ship once, and then it just exists. In real life the initial cost of a tank or ship is small compared to it's sustained cost.

/4xg/ please reccomend a 4x/tropico 5 esque game for me and my architect buddy to play. He has a (((MACBOOK))) so keeping that in mind would be helpful. Fucking no cross compat for civ 6 yet reeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEE

has anyone figured out to play es2 with a steam controller? I seem to be struggling

>>182096675
>playing ES2
>using a steam controller for anything

>>182096675
Look at the Steam controller bindings for Civ5/6. Copy them.

Or simply use the trackpads as a slower mouse.

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LIVE!

>>182093687
I've never seen Cravers win or even expand to the point of becoming a threat. They always get rekt early on when they're supposed to have the advantage, either by me or the AI. Then again I only played like five games on serious. Could be my luck.

>>182098583
try essence instead

>>182094206
Negative feedback loops aren't some mysterious new concept that nobody knows how to deal with. It's just that players don't want them anymore. You just want to get on the treadmill and click on your situation log.

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KIS/KAS really allow for some salvaging so i can fix the mistakes previously made

Anno2205 is okay to talk about in here, right?

>>182103927
yeah

it's not like we can be picky

Currently I only play "turtle and survive till you get end game fleets + Gear then just steamroll enemies with fleets"

I was thinking of playing with cravers to force myself to play differently. what are some good map settings to force myself to get gud and fight early wars?

also how the fuck do I play cravers? do I bother with improvements at all?

>>182104087
Smaller maps with more people, it'll force you into a war more quickly.

>>182104335
What ships do I build and how many before I war? do I just build a bunch of attackers, then thrown them at nearby systems? I'm not used to fighting except with my optimized/percise fleet loadouts.

What tech should I race for?

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can anyone explain this game to me

roving npcs just arrived and destroyed everything for no reason. in the first year of the game.

>>182105154
>a shit game with irrelevant and unbalanced mechanics is shit
>why is this so?

>>182105154
wow you actually had void clouds or whatever fuck your shit up

that has literally never happened to me

>>182105154
>>182105203
why did you attack them
they just jump out of the system if you dont attack them
stop being so bad

>>182105154
Lol did they really kill your spaceport? If so please ragequit and play a better game.

Roving monsters are a standard feature of 4x games. Typically they show up in other star systems, killing your science ships, which carries out the important gameplay purpose of [I seriously don't know what they add to the game]. You just got really unlucky this time.

>>182105154
I can only surmise that you were attacked by a Fanatic Purifier due to an extremly unlucky starting spawn.
Restart in a new galaxy. You got screwed by RNGesus.
Fyi I've never seen this happen in like 20 games

>>182105543
>>182105594
he didnt get unlucky, he's retarded. he saw a red creep and attacked with his ships.

>>182105735
If it shows up in your home system, in range of your military ships, how are you supposed to not attack it? The battle triggers instantly.

>>182105996
Do a barrel roll

>>182105996
see
>>182105203
then uninstall and play something worth your time.

>>182105415
Those are space amoebas.

>>182105735
To me it looks like they came from Eibriri, aggro'ed the nearby mining station which dragged them towards the spaceport. Bad luck in any event.

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>>182103927
Only if you want to be bullied by 2070.

>>182107457
>>182103927
I thought it was funny that the ecologist faction of 2070 was wiped out by the corporate faction by the time of 2205. Apparently being eco friendly isn't sustainable.

>>182107457
I find it amazing that they made the same game 6 times in a row

>>182109761
Actually they changed up 2205 quite a bit.

On a completely unrelated note, 2205 was fucking dogshit.

>>182106619
Spess amoebas don't warp between systems since 1.5 tho.
Literally no "barbarian" enemies have warp drive now.

ded

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I might be a 'cheevo whore, but I'm the best 'cheevo whore on the block

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> Machine Consciousness trying to summon The Worm
deebly_goncerned.png

>>182107457
Man 1602 was so much fun as a kid.
That angry peasant face always gets me.

>>182118832
why are you goncerned? what does it do?

>>182118832
>The Machine Consciousness planet has a different terrain bitmap
>The tiles don't
What.

>>182121526
Tundra, Tomb World, and AI Planet tiles are all the same.
I mean, I can understand them cutting corners on the once-per-20-playthroughs AI Planet, but Tundra and Tomb worlds spawn literally every game.

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For some reason I like Roving Clans the most out of the factions in Endless Legend.
I've always liked the idea of weird domesticated animals and giant insects.
Giant Redoran Crab 5 ever.

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>>182121358
> what does it do?
Nothing that would actually make them a problem from a gameplay perspective... but from an RP perspective, the omnicidal Skynet distributed consciousness falling in time-travel love with a transdimensional black-hole entity is probably about as existentially horrific as you can get.

>>182122559
>mfw this happens and then I proceed to terraform all the planets in my home system into gaia worlds.
Feels good man.

>>182122814
Feels better when you build habitats on all of them, THEN summon the worm

I'm two games in EL, are there some easy to miss helpful things?
The end game is always a slog, and I'm not sure if science victory is even possible in reasonable time.

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Can anybody explain how I lost my Spiritualist government trait and became Fanatic Authoritarian?

>>182125294
You can queue up actions in combat.

>>182126007
did you embrace an authoritarian faction
also
>1024x576

>>182126179
Ah sheiiiit, I did.
I guess I'll just rename the empire and move on. Got an amazing start.

>>182126216
At least you now know how to change your government ethics.

>>182126578
...not that this is ever something you need / want to do

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>stellaris
>first game
>iron man mode
>find a musscolid species
>they're chill, dont mind me dropping an outpost several systems away from them
>have no intention of messing with them
>surveying systems
>come across one with strategic resource
>rush outpost to mine
>"HEY SHITSTICKS, WE'RE AN ISOLATIONIST XENOPHOBIC RACE OF WARMONGERS AND YOUR OUTPOST TEN SYSTEMS AWAY PISSES US OFF"
>"BEND OVER AND SPREAD 'EM"
>sends in a fucking SEVENTYTWO THOUSAND STRENGTH FLEET
>dont even bother trying to defend
>fucking kills current president during peace talks like a bunch of fucking faggots
>demands outpost destruction and humiliation
>mfw all this fucking horseshit
god damn i didnt expect the game to be easy but what the fucking hell man.
been playing in bursts, fucking five hours of work to get homeworld set up (had a second colony planet but had nowhere near as much work as homeworld)
fuck this god damn shit, rerollin.
what the fuck, -200 from encroaching borders when the outpost was like 10+ systems away? what the fucking hell?
maybe its cause im used to Civ where everyone starts off even but this shit has me fucking pissed off
said faggots were fallen empire, whatever that means

>>182126914
>don't know how game works
>ree I'm angry

>>182127043
i understand that there are other races that have had space travel far longer than your race, but jesus christ ive never had even the most pants on head leader in civ declare war because i had borders 20 hexes away from them

also
>first game
im still learning so yeah i dont know everything about the game, but i didnt expect that overwhelming attack in such a short time frame

>>182127157
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Fallen_empire

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>>182126914
>said faggots were fallen empire, whatever that means
Xenophobic fallen empires (the ones who get pissed if you Outpost near them) are literally the final boss of the game.
Don't even LOOK at them sideways until you own half the galaxy, and preferably not then either.
You had very bad luck to spawn near one on your first game desu

>>182127372
i got the contact notification almost as soon as the outpost was built, like ten seconds after they declared war.
i went with basic map settings, started as democratic humans (with custom leader), their homeworld was probably 100+ systems away from me (i'd gone through two elections or so before i ran into them)

>>182127272
i'll read that a bit, trying not to spoil stuff though, part of the fun is figuring stuff out on my own

>>182127682
Ah.
Then let this be a lesson to scout thoroughly before dropping outposts

>>182128126
yeah, civ taught me to rush a resource if i dont have it, otherwise the ai would get it or put a city near it denying me the resource...

>Dawn of War is still better than any of its sequels
Sad!

A shame Soulstorm isn't even that good compared to Winter Assault.

>>182107457
>Nostalgiatard
2070 is so obviously superior to everything in that list

>>182128602
>implying anything with Uplay can be good

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>>182128303
Fair enough

The thing to remember in Stellaris is that strategic resources are completely worthless.
Basically every planetary system is completely interchangeable with every other planetary system, so you never ever need to settler rush because it never matters if some other guy gets a specific resource before you.

However, while planet QUALITY is irrelevant, planet QUANTITY is king, so your colonisation priority should be to target first those systems which will put several other colonisable systems inside your borders, thereby denying the opportunity to anyone else.

>>182108318
>I thought it was funny that the ecologist faction of 2070 was wiped out by the corporate faction by the time of 2205
Where did you read this?
The 2205 intro makes it pretty clear both are dead and gone.

>>182109761
Do you also find amazing the number of Mario and Zelda games Nintendo has made?

Playing Morgawr, started one region away from both a necrophage player and a mage AI. Wat do?

>>182128687
Yes it can
2070 is an example and Uplay has no bearing on the game's quality.
And if it bothers you so much just pirate it.

>>182129368
>Uplay has no bearing on the game's quality
This is what Ushills actually believe.

>>182129081
Suffer.

Try black marking the mage and build up your army for when necro is done with him.

Unless you are between them, than just turtle.

>>182129450
>Shills
Nah, the problem is Ubisoft with its general shittiness and inexistent customer support.
Uplay itself was never a bother save for the couple of times it was offline, at least for me.
I know some of you seem to be cursed by some digital god or your own stupidity when dealing with accounts or whatever it is, but you have no right to shit on the game because of all that.

>>182129850
Okay, Ushill.

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>>182107457
>1701
>alright

Is SoTS any good?

>>182129081
Hope you've got some good minor factions nearby

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>>182125294
>are there some easy to miss helpful things?
You know how to queue orders in battle?

>>182138662
Very fun RTS. Very little 4X elements.

>>182138662
It's a war focused game, with all the good and bad that brings. Having a unique FTL drive for every race is super cool, so are 3d maps.

>>182139082
Anon, you sure you aren't confucsing SoaSE and SotS?

>>182093379
Demographics

>>182139262
>Anon, you sure you aren't confucsing SoaSE and SotS?
Oops.

Vodyani is just too OP.

When a building in EL says "+x dust per pop", does it mean that the building gives more dust for pops placed as dust workers or is it added to every pop?

>>182140585
It's added to dust worker.

>>182140962
Thanks.

So I found an empire in ES2 with a single system way out on the edge of the universe on like turn 100. Their name was something AI and they didn't exist in the diplomacy menu. When I invaded, they used a troop defense I'd never seen before that said 'We should probably put text here just in case'.

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>>182141027
Sophon faction quest system.

You shouldn't have invaded.

>>182141006
You can doubleclick on the city to check it.

>>182141098
I mean, I was trees. Nothing happened to me, the sophons never said anything about it. Also, it turns out that if you enter a truce with one faction and then ally with a different faction that was at war with the first, it counts as breaking the truce.

>>182141210
also: I learned that trees have a happiness building that you can build in a given system as many times as you want. So that was neat.

>>182127682
>i'll read that a bit, trying not to spoil stuff though, part of the fun is figuring stuff out on my own

You do realise they actually give you the chance to back down? They don't just bomb your planet into oblivion the instant you drop a beacon or a colony in their zone of piss-them-offedness. You must not have bothered looking at their status to see they had power overwhelming against you, and you must have dismissed their "request" to remove the beacon.

What do I do if I'm playing cultists and some cunt goes around and stomps on all of my converted villages?

>>182143057
You protect them so they don't do that

>>182143089
They're spread out so much that it's a nightmare.

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>Need to take Imperial Cult if I want Philosopher King otherwise I become a secular state

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>>182143696
Thanks google.

>>182145084
Monster Musume. Chapter 51 I think.

>>182145483
Thanks anon

>>182141436
...You sure you're not sacrificing Guardians?

Is Civ 6 worth playing yet? Bought it and uninstalled it like 4 months ago

>>182147129
If you own it already, yes. Still not as good as Civ 5 complete but good enough if you're not an idiot who tries to play it like civ 5.

>>182147019
Quite sure. It's a chapter 2 quest reward, called Harmony of the Heart. Gives 5 happiness on system for each pop type, can be built as many times as I feel like. Might be a bug?

Are there any 'conceptual' Wonders in Civ 5 and 6? Civ 3 had weird Wonders like Universal Suffrage and Cure for Cancer, did they get rid of the idea?

>>182147407
Great Firewall in Civ 5 is kind of one.

>>182147407
Also maybe some of the national wonders in V like the Epics.

>>182147396
Quite positively a bug.

>>182147407
I sort of miss those wonders. I miss a lot of the feel of the early civs.

>>182148837
>I miss a lot of the feel of the early civs.
The palace was a fun feature.

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Some wiz

>be on team 1 with dutch pc civ
>have 3-4 cities, well developed and spread out, covering a decent amount of the map
>William has like 12 cities at least and keeps founding new ones as much as possible and keeps moving aircraft randomly between these cities each turn
>framerate drops significantly
dumb ai is DUMB

>>182151737
That doesn't sound bad. Why should we be outraged this time?

>>182151978
Invade him so he no longer has the aircraft or cities to think about

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>>182151737

>>182151737
How is it taking them this long to have actually good ideas?

>>182152284
Mmm...
>never acknowledge criticism
>stay inside their hugbox
>ignore all suggestions

>>182152505
I'm not sure that they don't acknowledge criticism, they are finally getting round to working on doomstacks, the naked corvette is getting fixed.

I'm fairly sure they, at the very minimum, read the suggestions as one or two have made it.

Number two is right though.

>>182151737

Early game and specially with Hyperlanes-only you can make some really nice traps with Spaceports and Defense Platforms with the FTL inhibitors.

Once fleets are 10K+, spaceports and even top tier fortresses are irrelevant unless they are used to support an equivalent fleet which can be nice to tip the balance.

Static defenses really need some reworking.

>>182151737
We ES2 now

>>182153079
It happened to Firaxis, it was bound to happen to Paradox. Let's see how Startdock starts copying Amplitude.

So they fixed the overpowered science gain from planetary survey corps right?
Are all the traditions and ascensions finally balanced?

>>182153227
>copy multi-tiled cities
>don't copy the other good part (regions)
what was firaxis thinking

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>>182153473
They nerfed it pretty hard. Seems to be balanced reasonably ok. Diplomacy could use a buff.

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>>182153768
>copy personality-driven diplomacy
>give leaders lolsorandumb personlaities
What was Firaxis thinking?

>>182153945
>>182153768
What even happened to Firaxis between 5 and beyond shit anyway, that's clearly where they started to become arse.

For some reason I thought I could still enslave pops as fanatic purifiers... Fuck. What am I even supposed to do, these planets will just get purged even on forced labour and then drop out of my borders.

Guess its time to start over.

>>182154105
>implying 5 wasn't shit at launch
>implying 5 wasn't shit after g&k
>implying 5 didn't only become good after BnW

>>182154105
Eh, the rot started with Vanilla V. Jon Shafer was an ass and didn't test his concepts very well, and they still shoved V out the door. Yes, G&K and BNW fixed things but they should have been true expansions to an excellent base than required mixups.

I think they just started taking their userbase for granted.

>>182154220

Resettle 1 of your species pops before the aliens are purged.

If you can't because of climate then you are fucked but it's not all that bad since you eliminated another threat at least.

>>182154250
That's why I wait until there's at least one DLC before I buy a new 4x.

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>>182154392
>tfw should have done this for ES2
>keep restarting games every patch

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>>182154340
*than required fix-ups, autocorrect.

I haven't played VI yet but I heard it's sucked. I've been playing Civ IV lately tbqh.

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>>182154361
Yea they're tundra worlds and I'm tropical, but I'm also adaptable so I guess I could do that. Maybe put a pop there and hold out until robots.

>tfw went to war to cede all 3 of their planets
>accidently nuked all pops off of their most recent colony through armageddon bombardment

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>>182154620
>accidently

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>>182154620
Ayy lmao fuck

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>>182154482
I've been meaning to combine various mods to try and make a Rhye's and Fall for Civ V, but I don't know how much it's possible for Rhye's gameplay to even work given 1UPT. Also does anyone still play Civ V?

The "Super Power modpack for Civ V allows 2UPT and collateral damage, which I may change for 3UPT, and I find it ironic the best Civ V mods basically reinvented Civ IV gameplay. Which I'm not complaining about, Civ V is a pretty game.

>>182154851
Didn't need those xenos scum anyway

>Start as Fanatical Purifier
>Start exploring, primising start
>Find first empire quite close, ok first meal
>Find another one, close as well, shiett this will be intense
>Find ANOTHER ONE and they start making guarentees and non-aggression pacts

This is not good. what do

>>182155126
My run started out quite the opposite. Came up on two militarist empires on either side of me and the retards rivalled each other. I've now eliminated the smaller one.

>>182103362
What game is that?

>>182155126
Exterminate them, what else?

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>allowing xenos to live in your empire

>>182157071
Who's going to work in my mines if I exterminate every xeno?

>>182157071
>looking down its chest
Hmmmm

>>182157243
Robots.

>>182157243
Robots.

>>182157243
That's what black people are for.

>>182157243
Black robots.

Are any of the ringworld start mods compatible with the current patches in Stellaris?

>>182160746
Don't know

>>182157243
Robotic blacks

New to Stellaris. The spot you start a colony gives bonuses to non-science yields directly adjacent to it, right? So is it worth overwriting a +2 yield like food if it means avoiding plopping the colony next to science?

>>182164772
Sure senpai

>>182164772
You're not really overwriting it. You still get the +2 food, so the only thing you're giving up is the opportunity to put a hydroponics building there later on. But since you can put a hydroponics on an empty square anyway, you're not actually giving up anything.

>>182166150
>You still get the +2 food
So wait, you still get whatever it was you drop the admin centre on?

Hey guys, low IQ retard here who somehow found himself 100 hours in Civ4. I don't know how to use strategy and just kinda develop my civ aimlessly and I have never ever won a war, legit do not know how to win battles besides being more advance and out numbering them. How do I start the path on becoming a strategist?

Currently playing Cavemen2Cosmos because I love massive feature bloated mods but its a little unstable and the crashing is annoying.

>>182168726
meant for >>182167356

>>182169424
Read civilopedia about everything regarding combat.

>>182168726
He's probably playing a really old version of Stellaris where colony admin building gave food and minerals. The more recent versions of stellaris have it giving energy.

You can overwrite a +2 food square, food isn't as critical as energy and mineral production.

>>182105203
>implying there is a better game for creating your own species and roleplaying with it

you're a fucking retard lad

>>182171407
>No GalCiv or Space Empires
>Okay, so it may take a bit more effort.

Still looking for a decent Pokehuman picture for portraits

>>182171407
>implying Spore doesn't shit all over Stellaris

>just realized Hyperlanes are just galactic filaments
It all makes sense now.

>>182173609
Explain to a dumb person like me?

>>182173609
wooaaa string theory duuuude

>>182169424
There aren't any real tactics in Civ 4. The correct way to win a war is to perform strategy such that you have more and better units, which as you said is what you've been doing. If you're able to do that then presumably you can do the really trivial stuff like putting your units on hills.

>tfw stealing pearls from a faction that doesn't even know that you exist
wtf I love the Forgotten now

>>182177252
Things like this really make me prefer the Civ5/6 style of one UPT, it has its issues and the AI struggles but having some form of tactics is just so much nicer

>>182177737
The problem with UPT is that it turns the game into chess and let you stale even with inferior units.

At least it makes 300 viable.

>>182177875
I agree but I still prefer it over unlimited units per tile. EL is probably the best hybrid, no doomstacks but you can't cheese with low numbers of units.

>>182178050
The Endless games have honestly a very solid gameplay. It's a decent compromise, because you know that this unit attacking you isn't actually a stack of 82 units, without being as ridiculous as a column of tanks stuck in one valley by slingers.

>>182178356
It makes logical sense as well, in reality you can't fit infinite people and materiel in an area but it also reflects how in reality its not going to be all infantry or all tanks in an area either.

>>182177875
Yes, that's the entire point. Being able to do something with inferior units other than get steamrolled, because you're smarter than your opponent, is a sign of a good tactical game.

(of course the devs couldn't make an AI system that could handle this situation, but that's another issue)

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>>182173764
Dark matter links univse large structures,in theory, and form strings of galaxies called filaments that form around voids in space.
Hyperlanes are probably just mini versions of them.

>>182178530
>>182178763
I also like the Endless system because it also reflects how you can have smaller units.
As you say, "it's not all infantry in one area".

Sadly, it doesn't work for really big conflicts.

Morgawr in es2 when?

>>182178958
Hyperlanes are actually just fictional concepts that are convenient for programmers and players in order to connect nodes, which are referred to as star systems.

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>>182179204
The think I really like about the EL combat approach (something which is very different from HoMM/King's Bounty/AoW) is that the battle map is the actual overworld map with all its special tiles.

Makes city positioning and manoeuvring in general a bit more meaningful.

>>182044138

You can kill every single infested planet and they will still be shit out of thin air I'm afraid.
The only purpose cleansing planets serves is slowing down the tide.

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>>182039424
wow, i think im gonna win this match, despite being at the bottom of the power ranking all game. my peaceful golden flower people,a backwater nation at the edge of the galaxy, managed to forge a federation that has 75% of the galaxy. after being wared twice by empires 3 times my fleet power, i managed to survive, with diversionary guerrilla attacks deep in their territory via wormhole generators. then the warmongers turn on each other while i forged a badass alliance.

im proud of myself /4x/.

>>182182739
It is? I never paid attention to that.

>>182183248
Good job anon

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>>182183276
It's a very big detail anon. How could you miss it? You can even see a projection of the battle arena on the overworld map before you commit to attack. So you can figure out if any reinforcements will drop in and positioning in general.

What are some Civ 4 and Civ 5 mods that have the same concept as Cavemen2Cosmos? I like the idea of expanding all the way to the space age and terraforming planets but searching around for more opinions C2C is a very bloated mod with stability and balance issues. Sci-fi and fantasy stuff is also good with me. I don't have any friends to play with so any overhauls that also make the AI better would be nice. Would also like to know ifs there is any promising mod developments for Civ 6? In theory the game being natively 64bit should allow more possibilities for advance mods because of more memory but I heard some shady dealings with that game. Something about them selling the SDK separately and limiting it because they don't want player created content competing with their DLCs.

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>>182183379
thnx, heres my build if youre interested

>>182183850
Did you actually buy the plantoid DLC?

>>182183774
Forgot to mention I also have all 3 Empire Earth games on GOG but have never touched them yet. Are they like Civ and have any mods like C2C?

>>182183774
C2C is almost impossible to finish but its worth giving it a try just to say you have.

>>182183774
The Civ 6 SDK is free, check the tools section of your steam library and it'll be sat there right next to the V one.

>>182183989
How is it almost impossible to finish?

>>182184150
Because its really long and bloated.

>>182183913
>Are they like Civ and have any mods like C2C?
Real-time strategy. The only victory is combat so all the developments are focused on that. No notable mods that I can recall.

I think what you want is the SPORE we were promised.

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>>182183908
yah, their cute, and it was like 2 dollars.
there is a scary cactus people in there too.
i want to make a psionic race out of one of the plants with glowy antanae thingies next.

i want them to make a aquatics species pack. it wouls be so awesome and i would buy ti instantly. dolphin people, whale people, shark people, tropical fish people, trout people, catfish people. that would be great and i would buy it

>>182184150
It's way too long. 2000+ turns long. And because it's a mod there is always the chance your game will simply crash at turn 2001 and ruin your entire play-through.

>>182183248
>letting the xeno scum live

>>182184261
salamanders and frogs too would be in the pack

>>182183631
I'm not fond of the battles in Endless Legend. I like the idea, but the execution is a bit slow.

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>>182184558
>the execution is a bit slow
You mean the combat animation speed? You can increase it six-fold in the options.

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>>182184508
>>182184508
>>letting the xeno scum live
but i want to be friendly happy flower people!
lets touch our "extremities" and be besties, anon

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>>182185116
Being friendly is fine and dandy early game but once exploration runs out it's time to your realpolitik face on!

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>>182185215
>you want to kill this
noooooooooooooo

>>182185215
You don't need to go full Imperium, you can just conquer, liberate, vassalize and integrate instead of muh SUFFER NOT THE XENO.
Or be a great good in this galaxy and forge a federation to maintain a lasting peace.

don't die senpai

>>182189095
ok

Sometimes when I terraform to jungle or boreal the planet just doesn't get the fertile trait. What the heck.

>>182190885
thanks for beta testing

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>Celestial Empire is a thing
Cool