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/assg/ - Asymmetrical Slasher Series General

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>why the FUCK is shiftgrab allowed?!
Dumb devs is the answer to all questions: Edition

>What is Dead by Daylight?
Asymmetrical multiplayer slasher game where 4 survivors scramble to fix 5 generators, while 1 killer wants to sacrifice all of them.
http://www.deadbydaylight.com
http://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Dead_by_Daylight_Wiki

>What is Friday the 13th?
A slasher game featuring Jason and counselors. 7 counselors with different stats and abilities try to escape the camp while Jason kills them one by one.
http://f13game.com

>What is Last Year?
Beta coming this August, Class based with weaker killers.
http://www.lastyearthegame.com

>Discord Chat
https://discord.gg/Eb3WFHz

>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dbdgeneral

>Latest Patch Notes (DbD)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/1354868867711911000/

>Skill Check Simulator (DbD)
www.mistersyms.com/tools/gitgud/

>Latest Patch Notes (F13)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/438740/discussions/0/2333276539598578047/

I-is that a dead thread?:>>181872783
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First for DbD and F13 both being shit.
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Just grinded pretty much every survivor for the perk build I wanted. Which survivor should I main now?
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>>182023832

Dwight or no balls.
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>crouching to cabin
>stealth activated jason shift grabs me and instantly uses choke
>no counterplay
b-b-buts its ok because movie right? who needs gameplay!
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>queue for f13
>make food, still no match
>watch jackass 1 and 2
>still no match
>go to bathroom
>find match, everyone has 200+ ping
>close f13
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>>182024672
>>>/dead by daylight/
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I want to main Killer because I got bored of being survivor. I tried out some of the killers and I'm leaning towards Trapper for my main. Any essential perks I should have for him? And which of the killers should I grind?
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>>182024982
What? I'm talking about F13.
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>>182024805
>queue for f13
>find match straight away
>my ping is 30 while everyone else has 200+ ping
this is the one game where it's great to be an australian
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>>182024672
(You)
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>>182025128
Get Trapper to level 35 for Brutal Strength and pick up Nurses Calling in the shrine.
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>>182025295
>muh can't beat jason
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>>182025893
So do you actually think it's okay for Jason to be broken in a unfun way? What makes the survivors have fun by having a instakill thats unavoidable?
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is there any reason not to just instantly disconnect if the jason knows to put traps in front of every objective and knows how to telegrab?
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>>182024672
>>crouching to cabin
5$ says you were playing one of the characters that dont even need to crouch
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>>182026042
don't instantly disconnect, draw his attention and spam window jump and table loop until your team escaped, then disconnect once he grabs you
>>182026176
i play chad for outrageous stun time, or lachappa for meme time
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>>182025980
>What makes the survivors have fun by having a instakill thats unavoidable?
Avoiding it by not being a retard lone wolf AJ
Do you know what the "a" in /assg/ stand for? DO YOU?
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>>182025980
>unavoidable
This is bait, but I'm still going to bite
Find a pocketknife
or
Stop trying to lone wolf
or
Stop complaining that stealth was used against you
or
Accept the fact that you aren't the dev's special little survivor, and that you're gonna die sometimes

>inb4 pocketknives are rare
>inb4 stalk shift is broken
>inb4 backer or killercuck or whatever buzzword you wanna throw
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Reminder that all 8 Paramount Friday the 13th movies are in a 20$ collection on Amazon right now
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>>182026258
I juke Shift all the time dude, so much so that the people I play with dont even rely on it anymore
New Jason meta on PS4 is using Stalk creatively
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>>182025858

Do I get any hex totem-based perks? I was planning on using perks like Whispers and Brutal Strength in my Trapper build.
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>>182026258
>using inb4 for actual respones
okay gun sucker.
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>>182026549
not an argument
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>>182026615
My arguments are all the things you listed after >inb4
Jason's supposed to be a retarded zombie that can't die, not a dishonored protagonist
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>>182026513
Ruin is pretty good but you need Thrill of the Hunt if you want it to last more than 5 seconds.
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>>182026769
Seems like you're upset you got outplayed and you came here to throw a tantrum
>Jason stalkshifts to you
>doesn't want to deal with you breaking free maybe -grip strength or some other shit
>probably has other objectives to worry about
>chokes you because it's fastest and easiest and lets him get back to doing his job

but i'm sure you're a good counselor who dindu nuffin wrong and that the mean old jason was just being mean to you specifically
and yet here you are getting upset over dying in a videogame designed in a way that only a few counselors get out alive. this isn't like dead by daylight where there's fewer, so their survivability is increased, there's 7 or so counselors, therefore, it's inevitable some are going to die

You were just one of those. Get over it
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>>182027140

are you a gun dev or actually this retarded?
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>>182027140
Counselers ARE the objective for Jason retard.

But keep defending deviant art Jason neckbeard.
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>spawn in the phone house
>find the fuse in the first drawer
>call the cops
>hide under a bed and alt tab for 5 minutes
Riveting gameplay
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>>182026549
Inb4 is a 4chan classic GTFO
The day inb4 is uncool but people still posy fucking pepe is the day I leave
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>>182026995

Fuck, guess that means I gotta grind Hag.
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>>182027172
You have to explain WHY you think hes retarded or your post becomes ineffective background noise
Lrn24chan
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>>182027586

spawning in the phone house is actually terrible if the jason isn't retarded and knows to teleport there immediately
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The video black lives matter doesn't want you to see
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>>182027709
Once you get to the try hard ranks you might want to consider getting enduring off of Hillbilly.
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>>182026497
Stalk kills are the most satisfying and the game should be built more around it
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So if i understood correctly, asymmetrical slashers are like Evolve but not being utter shit?
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>>182028670

Hmm, alright. I hope it's in the next shrine though.
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>counselor guide says My Dads a Cop is too situational
I feel like I call the cops more than half the time is medic really worth it more than that?
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>jason instantly senses me from miles away when im crouching with no fear as lachappa
>runs straight to me
>tunnels me for 6 minutes
>D/C when he grabs me
isn't lachappa supposed to be high stealth?
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>>182029557
The only things stopping Jason from sensing you are hiding spots and perks. Stealth only reduces noise pings
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How do I report people in F13?
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>>182029836
It says it stops jason's ability to sense, so either the devs are shit or you're wrong
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Isn't friday the 13th supposed to have dedicated servers? Why is everything p2p?
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Why did I waste money on Friday the Shitteenth when I could have bought two copies of Dead by Daylight
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>>182025772
I know right, I love having a gook Jason miss his shiftgrab. Australians can demask most Jasons pretty easily with our dedicated servers.
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>>182030517
Why are dbd shills such cry babies lmao.
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>the f13 community is still on fire
what the fuck it hasn't blown over yet?
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>>182033714
pol double speak really manipulates people easily
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>>182034059
/pol/ is good then, cause F13 is unbalanced shit
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>>182023616
I dun made a group for F13 idiots like me who are tired of playing with Eastern-European squeakers

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/CrystalLakeCrusaders
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>>182034101
how would you even balance f13?
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>>182034781
blocking flairs, traps gone
combat stancing doors gone
hitting people through doors gone
trap stacking gone
phone needs power to work
part 7 forces the boat to spawn
savinis stats are copied onto a new jason
counselor xp total buffed
thick skin nerfed
perks fixed
item bug fixed
composure buffed
strength buffed
sense spam nerfed
stalk buffed
jason can only use his 4 executes once perk game
they give half as much xp as environmental but more than melee which gives only a 25% as much as xp as environmental
Tommy spawns with pocket knife
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>>182036046
I don't think that would be enough
curious to see what the death/escape ratio is on an average game of over level 41's is
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>all these noobs mad at lone wolf gameplay
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Reminder that they're fixing facecamping
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>>182036046
I agree with most of those. I don't think Jason should be limited to one use of his executes but give them a cooldown.

People should still be hurt when standing near a door being broken, since it makes sense.

But everything else is a great idea. I wish the devs had your insight.
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>driver stopped his car for me to board
>get caught by Jason as a result
>both of us died

s-sorry
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>play as chad
>thick skin, medic, window climbing perk
>find a big house
>play a game of chasing and climbing through windows for 15 minutes straight
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>>182041386
Pretty sure window climbing perk is broken or sucks. Use baseball bat stun time perk.
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>>182030026
>either the devs are shit
>Gun Media
You answered your own question, my friend. But yeah, Sense is only effected by Perks and hiding spots. It isn't the first time the Devs have been completely full of shit, either. Remember that the durability perk has actually been tested and does absolutely nothing, even at max rarity. And that a High Composure can be a curse because while CHad might lose his shit in a second, he gathers himself back five times faster than Composure Slut who has to wait for the spook meter to empty.
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>>182030026
All this shit has been tested, the reason the game has such little info about how shit works isn't to keep the games "mystique" it's because a lot of the shit doesn't work, how you'd presume or how they describe it.
It's a black box so you can't see how shit everything is.
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So fear affects your skill checks.

I had never realized, because I don't put in too many parts as Jenny, but the top wheel was before Jason appeared, and the bottom wheel was just after he morphed over.

Interesting.
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>>182040068

>People should still be hurt when standing near a door being broken

I think anon was likely referring to this foolishness.
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How would you feel about Dead by Daylight fanfiction? I've got some stuff in mind and I don't mean like anything too huge or ridiculous in scope, more like random character building stories.
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>>182042949
I'm not sure if it does, you could probably keep reloading the wheel for easier or harder QTE's
someone told me it alerts jason when you do but i'm to lazy to test it so be careful.
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>>182043692
If it isnt absurdly bad i'll read it anon
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>>182042949
I don't think it does. I could be wrong but Jenny isn't very good at repairs either.

>>182043785
I've done it plenty of times and it doesn't alert him to my knowledge.
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>>182043785

I did a little test later into the match where we were all goofing around, and after Jason left me alone all the wheels I got had one less skill check than the wheel before it, so I feel like it does. Either that or it's a strange coincidence.

>>182044270

Yeah, Jenny has like 2 repair, it just seemed odd that the number of skill checks would change at all.
Makes me wonder if her high composure has an affect on her skill checks when she isn't scared.
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>>182044835
you can chad down to 5 repair by just reloading the QTE wheel
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>>182043692
if it's not pizza dwight being raped by the nurse i'm not intrested
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>>182045130
No one gives a shit about your ugly characters.
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>f13 community seems to be in its death throws
>not even the autistic IM HAVING A GREAT TIME BEING IGNORANT posts are stemming the tide

Good about time gun were made responsible for their fuck ups. anytime they fuck up or are critisied some fuckface feels the need to undermine the need for improvements and change by saying.

OKAY I KNOW THERE'S NOT ALOT OF CONTENT AND THE LAUNCH WAS TERRIBLE BUT THANKS FOR MAKING SUCH A GREAT GAME GUN SO MANY NEGATIVE PEOPLE WHY CAN'T THEY APPRECIATE THIS GREAT GAME.

fucking hate these people
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>>182043692
Give us some examples, could be neat.
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>>182043692
I've got an idea for fanfiction but im terrible at writing so im too shy to ever try putting on paper.
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>>182046839
Those are just the backers trying to justify spending 40+ for this earliest access abomination.
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>>182046839
>Death throes
>The actual player count has not actually moved seemingly at all
>The longer that shitstorm has gone on the more people visibly doubting and shitting on Dilly have risen

It's basically just the ribbit and steam forums hugbox going ape and nobody else much cares anon. It's the same grandstanding they all do any time there's ~OUTRAGE~ to be had.
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>>182047216
>nobody else cares
Are there any other forums that matter?
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>>182047216
>nobody else much cares anon
who is this nobody else?
the 29 ips in this thread?
where else exactly on the internet does f13 the game actually get discussed at length outside steam and ribit?
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>>182047216
>The actual player count has not actually moved seemingly at all
nice try f13 shill
http://steamcharts.com/app/438740
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>>182047010
Pretty much short stories for survivors and killers that either build on them believably without going too far out or stretch what we already know a little bit. First that came to me kind of out of the blue was for a Dwight one.

Told from maybe Jake initially or multiple shifting viewpoints, about how each time they failed, Dwight eventually learned to look at the violence going on better each time, resolving to get (Mentally, emotionally) stronger until they started to man up to become the unofficial leader of their little group like he's loosely supposed to be. The first time they ever all got caught, Dwight almost immediately gave up, clamped his eyes shut and everything went black like it does until they were back at the fire, time after that, they could still hardly look at the people they felt like they'd 'failed' dying and so on until he's taking their trials good and bad as more reason to grow as a leader.

It sounds kind of wanky at parts there I'm sure, but obviously there'd be more written than just that barebones idea so it wouldn't all be Dwight hero worship or something.
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>>182047491
>>182047545
Your first mistake was caring about forums at all, they're all equally shit when you have incentives to for you to follow the victim march with upboats or get smothered.

>>182047775
It's been sitting around 4k for a while now dude, it's really not moved in any kind of demonstrable way recently.
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>>182043526
This works both ways. If you're bold enough you can stun jason with weapons through doors and walls as well.
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>>182048481
you can literally scroll over the graph and check the numbers by days it's almost lost 1k players in a week the ban conditions and dilly dingus shit started around the same time.
I've never seen so one so willfully ignorant when they've literally got the numbers infront of them.
shape up dude.
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>>182048640
Not him but I'd argue it's a problem both ways seeing someone stun jason and knock him on his ass through a door just looks silly as hell.
but again this is just my opinion.
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>>182048662
I don't know why you're sosure it's because of the Dingus scandal, and not the natural dying process of people getting bored of the same matches happening over and over or twitch stemmurs and their followers moving on.
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>>182048848
if your the same guy that just said
>It's been sitting around 4k for a while now dude
pic related

if you aren't just read the forums and take an educated guess.
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>>182048662
>30 day average: 4500
>It's current players and 24 hour peak has been a little over 4000

People in general put way too much stock into forums for both good and bad. The majority of players for basically every game there's ever been don't visit the official forums, or rebbit forums, or neofag forums or any of that. The large majority of your average game buyers just play their games either with friends mostly or pub it for laughs.
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>>182049042
If you went to DbDs steam forums pretty much any day you'd think the game was in the process of burning to the ground. I don't even own the game but it's literally always been the case that dedicated videogame forums will be melting down over one thing or another. People satisfied with actually playing their game are playing the game and have no reason to go to them most of the time.
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>>182049042
yeah of course your average is going to be shit if you start hemorrhaging players because of PR fiascos.
Doesn't change when the decline happened though just look over the last 10 days in comparison to the last 30 days
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>>182049042
can you really consider people who never take an interest in the community or even know it exists to be part of it?
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>>182049009
I'm a different anon. I don't even own the game. I was just thinking the same as >>182049042 most plebs aren't even aware of this bullshit unfolding on the ribbit.

and you know that even warrior exclaiming "I'm boycotting the game" just say that for the updoots, and continue to play the same hours.
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>>182050349
I mean yeah kinda? They're still there providing games and making themselves available to fuck around with. "The community" is kind of a nebulous thing a lot of the time when you're not talking about an MMO or similar style of game, when you're unlikely to ever consistently meet people or even have it much matter since it's not a big scale or personally hosted servers kind of game.
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>>182050489
Yeah I figured after I got 2 you's
it doesn't matter really if most plebs don't know that, I don't think something like this will kill f13.
but deny its impact or implying the playerbase has always been 4k for ages and it hasn't been accelerated by the Devs fucking up seems to dishonest when the numbers he was talking about not really moving have in fact moved and quite closely to the events in question.

For all we know because we don't have the numbers and pc players are more likely to actually use forums, it's sailing smoothly on consoles.
But there's no way he was referring to anything but steam when he mentioned the numbers because the only detailed account of player numbers only shows steam users.
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>>182050909

PS4 at least is still growing. F13 I think has been in the top 3 digital games on psn since release.

People are being drama queens.
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>>182049851
DbD might be a terrible fucking example considering it's a game infamous for having terrible frog devs and due to its nature as an asymmetrical game horrible long winded discussions but justified over imbalances.

I don't play mmos any more but outside pvp which suffers the same problems as the prior, pve discussion was usually pretty good and to the point, it was by no means civil but good discussions don't always have to be.
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>>182026236
chad doesnt have increased stun time.

his luck doesnt even give a good chance of stunning jason. just be bugsy if you want to be a hero
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Okay I got the trapper to level 35
what other killer perks do i need besides brutal strength?
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>>182052489
>chad doesnt have increased stun time.
True, but chad is better than buggzy because you can just grab a bat get 100% stun and it wont break in like 2 hits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeXatquVqAc
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>>182052701
If you want to play Myers, you need Monitor and Abuse.
Otherwise, no that's it.
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>>182053114
luck doesnt effect stun chance

http://fridaythe13th.gamepedia.com/Luck

strength does

http://fridaythe13th.gamepedia.com/Strength
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>>182053483
>luck doesnt effect stun chance
No ones contesting that though friend?
The bat is always 100% stun.

>strength does
it doesn't though senpai.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=938559619

The gamepedia is literally inaccurate garbage tier info.
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>>182051263
Dbd is one that has both an awful forum AND in-game community, ever if there's little overlap. The amount of rage dcs (which don't evenhurt the killer but fuck over your own team), angry group- and friend invites and after-game freak-outs are something I never experienced this often in any pvp. It brings out the worst in some people.
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>>182053713
really? because the bat doesnt always seem to stun for me, and people im playing against
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>>182056739
Yeah it stuns 100% test it out in a private game
Jason can obviously block it and you can obviously miss him
but if it hits him it's lights out.
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>>182052701
grats on your newfound pallet-breaking ability
personally I am fond of wraith's teachables, leveling that first for my billy
nurse's make survivors more noisy and the shrine perk to see wounded survivors seems good too
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>>182056941
thx
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>>182027838

>spawn in the main house in Packanack
>run like hell
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>>182040068

There needs to be more of a buffer in executions, Composure is almost literally worthless since most tryhards are just mashing 1 the moment they grab someone.
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>>182059397
>almost
no anon it IS worthless
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can you get banned for slugging people?
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this is pretty funny probably the only good thing i've seen the f13 community ever produce.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWBsyLgpbLc&feature=youtu.be
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>>182061163
Nice shill.
That was fucking awful
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>>182061448
>shill
???
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>>182058976
that is the best house for kiting jason.

the bottom floor windows can only be destroyed from the inside, and there 5 of them, plus a bathroom window. not to mention the 2 story windows.

on top of that jason cant even sense or shift yet, you can enough time to loot the entire thing and sprint away and jason cant do shit unless he wants to continue to leave the phone and car untrapped

>both car and phone spawn at the lodge
well shit, you can still loot it and sprint away i guess
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>>182060712
no, unless you are obviously friends with jason.

nothing wrong with teamkilling someone for being annoying, or stealing their spot in a car
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>>182062658
>no, unless you are obviously friends with jason.
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>Juking the killer
>Get stuck inbetween two trees because their hitbox is fuckhuge

>Hiding from the killer
>Stupid ass meg literally brings him to me

Fuck
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>>182064123
Their new map generation creates a lot of false corridors. Some of the trees fucking pull me in while running also, I don't know what's going on.
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>>182060712
No. But if you do it often and build up a record of reports across game, they might time you out in the future, since all they care about is patterns. I don't think they're doing soft bans yet though.
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>>182061557
Don't you know, everything good ever said about any game makes you a shill now, isn't summer great.
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>>182064123

>Dwight spawns with me and doesn't fucking go away
>This pleases my Meg x Dwight shipboner but I am fairly sure this guy is going to get me killed
> He fails a skillcheck on the generator
> We hide, nurse sees him, doesn't see me
> He brings her to me

Fuck
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>>182064983
New players will always bring the killer to you because they have no idea how to lose them on their own.
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>>182064123
>>182064983
What do you expect? People will always betray you to save their own supple skin.
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>>182065490
>>182065453

No you don't get it, in both these cases I am fairly sure the fuckers just did it because they're idiots who run in a straight line without thinking, they were not trying to bait.
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>>182066064
Cry me a river
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>>182064983
>>182066064
Get Bond
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>>182026497
This for me. Everytime I play I'm one of the last ones to die because I got good enough to avoid the telegrab. All my deaths have been really satisfying where my counselor is bleeding out form a strike and the screen is going grayscale from max fear.

Git Gud people that can't juke or go back to DbD where the killers aren't threatening and get teabagged.
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So has anyone experienced some weird bug where you take control of another counselor?

Not sure what happened but all I did was start up a car with Jason nearby and three other counselors were inside. Once Jason pulled me away they stunned him a few times and it was like an average DbD moment where counselors are running around the killer. Eventually when I got inside the car Jason pulled me back out and killed me. Instead of getting the "You Died" message I was back inside the car as AJ even though I died as Adam. While I was dying I somehow still had full control of the car but the camera focused on the kill animation. As AJ I managed to drive away and gained experience for surviving.

I'm not sure what was up with that but I was wondering if anyone else manage to experience that weird bug.
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>>182034059
What does /pol/ have against it?
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>Try to play SWF
>Every time we try to queue someone gets "no internet connection" and is booted out of the game
>get into a game after trying 12 lobbies
>2 people instantly d/c and the killer is super laggy
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>>182048662
>ban conditions
>dilly dingus

What the fuck happened?
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>>182067717
Go look at the archives.
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I got dead by daylight on the last day of steam deal, I'm enjoying it, which DLC should I get? I really enjoy playing the killer, survivor isn't fun for me, maybe I'm doing something wrong
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Gee, Fellas. I sure am on the fence about getting DBD. I'm getting a little bored with F13. Is it even worth it?
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>>182068202
When I started to get a little bored with F13, I went back to DbD. I found myself enjoying it far less than I did before I had played F13.
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>>182068383
Me to. I want to go back to F13 every time I play a round of DBD, I hate that the killers are glorified servants of a magic spider who have to bring it food then watch it eat like a good little puppy. I want to fucking kill people, not hook people.

But there's just no content in F13. The Bloodweb is atleast SOMETHING. There's jack shit to unlock in F13 after level 30.

>>182067914
>Dev freaks out because someone called his 12 year old son a faggot for being Jason's little helper, doesn't ban son and instead bans the guy who called him a faggot

Goddamn it, Gun really is incompetent as fuck aren't they?

I can't wait for the single player F13 to be a bunch of glorified tutorial scenes. It's amazing how far shitty devs can do so much to ruin a great video game concept.
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>>182067615
SWF is broken now. Look at their bug froums, there's an easy fix for one of the causes.
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>>182068874

>People can't play SWF

This will be remembered as a shortlived but golden era of DbD
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>>182068874
they finally fixed swf?!
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>>182070072
Borrowed time is bugged as well. Doesn't work after the gates are powered.
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>>182067615
You have to ready up, stop the search, and then ready again. Friends and I just figured this out >>182043692
Yeah man, post that shit. All the A03 is just Dwake (Worst ship) shit.
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I don't remember what this is but bump
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>When you look back at all the hype you had for f13
>Its all came to THIS
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>>182036046
>Jason can only use 4 executes

Fuck no, getting M1'd is worse than telegrabbed, since only shitters can't avoid them by this point.
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>>182075485
We just wanted something better than the trashpile that was DBD.
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>>182063109
as in, teaming the entire game, having him just stand there while you tagbag next to him, him letting you survive running out the clock
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>>182068071
It was the same for me man, it's just easier co-ordinating on your own.

DLC wise I guess the Doctor would be a good start
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>>182077046
>the Doctor
can you tell me more, please?
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>>182076834
>Slugging is a DBD term to reference putting multiple survivors into dying state, so they can crawl around leaving slime trails and be killed by salt, like slugs
>Correlating it to f13, a game where the term slugging doesn't even exist let alone be used at all.
Its okay to be new friend, but god damn.
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>>182075485
I'm hoping this shit will die down and the by the time the single player is ready a lot of the problems will be fixed. It's been a year and most of DBD's problems are fixed but it's still not perfect.
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>>182077126
He's in the Spark of Madness DLC, his skill is shocking people so it makes it harder for them to complete objectives and you can get notifed of their position easily when they scream.

Feng's in the DLC as a survivor too, she has a perk where fixing gens make less noise and have a chance of not making a sound when you fail skill checks, could be a good start for beginners.
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>>182068678
It was more that some autist went ape at some people, tried to pretend they dindu nuffin to farm them upboats and then dropped their spaghetti when confronted, turns out they left off the whole "calling people whores and faggots" thing.
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>>182075431
Christ, I don't know what's been lately but I keep doing shit like that too. The character I pull off the hook (or if I'm running with someone I met up with) always seems to run right in front of me and gets in my way, or pulls down the palette.

On a side not, everyone should recognize Ace as being best waifu
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Unhook
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I thought F13 was the game with stupid faces.
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>>182078860
Crazy shit happens when you open the gate
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>>182075485
A game that's been fun that people are sperging out over because some shitter got banned and the similar fagmasters with no self-control are scared under the smokescreen of "Muh abuse" and shit?
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I love how you can trick the killer so easily by backtracking

Your tracks disguises your second set of tracks, and the killer will be trying to look around the area where the tracks suddenly ended
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>>182078423
Ace is best boy and I wish his perks weren't so crap.
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The silhouette of the new killer reminds me of him
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>>182081227
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>>182078423
Is Ace any good in bed?
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>>182081862
>SEDUCED his way to the top
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Devs must have increased gen repair speed. I don't think I've ever completed a gen this fast by myself.
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>>182081862
Are you a girl or are you a faggot?
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>>182078450
claudette a cute!
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>>182082192
Seems normal to me.
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What's the fastest way to grind Bloodpoints? I just want to get Hex Ruin.
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>>182081862
He would give you the best sweaty survivor sex by the campfire, anon
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>>182083469
Farming as killer.
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>>182081862
He's got magic fingers.
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>tfw you try to fix it but there's nothing you can do
>tfw you just gotta see it through
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>>182083573

Do I just drop my rank all the way to 20 then?
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>>182082445
=3
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>>182084778
So faggot
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>>182085092
Nope!
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>>182085671
London?
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>>182085671
Go to bed Soap
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>>182084664
More around 16-17 if you can get games with people around there. Rank 20s are usually too stupid to even farm with, and you have to look for minutes because they're all sitting in lockers.
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>>182085968
Bangcock.
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>>182027140
.20 cents have been deposited into your account
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>>182086883
I'll let you bang my cock baby.

Dead by Daylight.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3mI0Ic8n-M

Oh man.
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>>182091193
The situation really has been blowing up lately hasn't it?
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>>182091193
>ShitAlfalfa
>Listening to what that autist says about anything
>Listening to literally anyone with "Alpha" in their name in general
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Red = Not a viable councilor, need reworking, someone already dose their job but better than they do.

Yellow = Alright, but once again someone does their job better than they do, (Except for Kenny, he's fine, but who the hell plays Kenny?)

Green = Good options, the best you can choose from. These councilors are fine and don't need any work done on them.
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>>182086042
No

>>182088464
That isn't even me you're responding to
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>>182041694

Ya, the window perk is bugged. You still get the speed increase, but you don't recover faster when going through windows. You still have the same time to wait as you would if you went through it with out the perk.

Also I heard the baseball bat stun time perk is bugged too(not surprised at all) and I used it on my friend and he said the stun felt the same as a normal bat.
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>>182091737
Comment stands ;)
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>>182045010

Does that alert jason wotj a sound que? Like if you keep putting the battery in and stopping it.
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>>182092059
nope, only a failed skill check does that. You can even stop in the middle of a skill check and it doesn't alert Jason
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>>182091674

bugzy is just a worse vanessa.
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>>182091674
>Deb
>Bad

>Tiffany
>Good

>Buggzy
>Green while Vanessa is yellow

Also just gonna cap off by calling you a fag for using "viable" in this game.
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>On top of all the other issue with this terrible game you have people working with Jason still in completely, and painfully obvious ways.
This game is complete trash. It fucking DESERVES to die a death.
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I hope F13 gets it's shit sorted out. I'm so fucking done with DBD.
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>>182086730

Do I just quit the game at the start of the match then so I can drop ranks?
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>>182094089
Maybe they should run another kickstarter campaign to make it not a bad game.
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>>182094084
>Abloo bloo I had a bad match pls console me
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>>182094592
>Defending these devs or this game in light of all the recent evidence.
How poor do you actually have to be to care this much about $40?
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>>182094371
It sold a fuck-ton. They have the money to make it not shit.
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>>182094278
You can do that, or play without kills until you fall back with the new system, that's the slow version.
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>>182092707
>tfw buffs never
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I'm so happy I talked myself out of buying F13th, so I don't feel anything about this whole fiasco.
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>>182094910
>All the recent evidence

lol you faggot, a shitter got banned because they couldn't contain their spaghetti, booooo hoooooooo
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>>182095689
People don't disagree with that faggot getting banned though, he's shown that he can't act like a normal person. But the dev admitted to ban him solely thanks to some of their friends' words without needing further evidence, which rubs people the wrong way. Just because the one person that ended up confronting them happened to be a edgy manchild and someone who should be banned, it's not the right way to approach permabans, it can easily be abused.
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>>182095689
>Banning people without clear concrete evidence of a infraction
>Saying they reviewed evidence that they couldn't have for said infraction
>Refusing to ban the other party who was breaking rules because of "neptism"
>Banning youtubers who compile glitches for the sole purpose of informing the devs of said glitches because they were "using glitches"
>Banning people on forums because they post comments of things they don't like.
>Deleting, locking, and squashing reddit threads they don't like, when they aren't even supposed to be mods because reddit is meant to be impartial on things like that.
These Devs don't care about you, and you're really going to dick suck them? Why?
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>f13 is going to be the promised land
>Its going to kill dbd
Where are you now, faggots?
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>>182097569
Playing a game that's more fun than DbD no matter how hard rebbit cries lol
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>>182097989
Enjoy your game having less than 500 peak players a day in the next few weeks.
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>>182097569
I'm enjoying both games.
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>>182098345
I already play games with like 500 people and rooms fill gaylord, I'll manage even then and it'll still be more fun than whatever new horse shit survivors get to do in DbD by that point.
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>>182097569
A Claudette I was in a match with got OUTFUCKINGSKILLED by a killer using NOED and said after the match that "F13 will KILL DBD"tm becasue too many many matches were "unfun". I wonder where they are now...
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>>182091674

While Adam is a worse Bugzy, he's not without his uses. He can repair shit on his own and can fend off Jason well enough.

Bugzy is pretty good for fighting Jason and running, but ultimately, he is a worse version of Vanessa. On his own, he can't really manage to do anything other than delay his death. He doesn't have the repair skill high enough to take care of himself like Adam can.

Deb and LaChappa being crossed out is dumb. Either one of them is a good viable choice.
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>>182091674
>not worshipping the Twin Gods of Chad the Golden Gold and Lachappa the Rappa
I'd call you a faggot, but then I'd get banned. All other characters can fuck right off.
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When's the next survivor bu- patch coming?
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>>182098692
I'd imagine they're on the steamforums, reddit, or here whining about how unfair shift grabs are.
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>>182103651
*unfair it is they can't sperg out on people

They have to farm those upboats man.
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>>182091737
>>182086042
>Soap will never put a bag over your head and pretend you're ace.
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>>182101994
2-3 weeks probably
They gave the doctors shadow and he came out a few weeks after that.
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>>182098725
Deb and Lachappa are inferior to AJ. Their literally downgraded versions of her.
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>>182106719
>Their literally downgraded versions of her.
They can do more than loot a pocket knife and then hide on the edge of the map.
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Reposting from last thread:

Anyone know a good key-rebinding software? My mouse lacks a middle mouse button, and not being able to throw knives makes playing non-running Jasons kind of a hassle.
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>>182103840
More like Deborah lmao
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>>182106897
No seriously, you don't need 10/10 repair, when AJ's 7/10 repair is basically the same fucking thing. and her 4/10 speed and stamina is a life saver compared to Deb and Chappa. Also her 10/10 stealth and 7/10 composure makes things a fuckton easier.

AJ is the best stealth/repair character, you waiting your time using any other stealth/repair councilor.
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>Play game as Deb
>Don't find any parts but get two pocket knives, a spray, and a flare gun
>Call Tommy while everyone else gets killed
>Distract Jason for LITERALLY almost ten minutes
> last two players are just hiding in tents, one of them Tommy

I mean they survived, but who sees this as a fun way to play? I also would have liked to have seen all that time I had Jason on me being used in a useful way and not just sitting out the clock.

>>182107698
Deb's cute though
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>>182110212
>Deb's cute though
So's Jennny, but cute is not an effective stat.
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>ywn spend an afternoon helping Adam fix his car while listening to Slayer, Testament, and Vio-lence
>ywn have Deb over at your house helping you study, only to end with you take each other's virginity's in an awkward but tender night of passion
>ywn spend your weekends hanging out with Jenny, the nice girl next door, completely oblivious to her massive crush on you
>ywn get head from Tiff behind the bleachers on homecoming night
>ywn high five your bro Buggzy after winning a game on the school varsity Baseball team
>ywn spend a weekend camping, fishing, and hunting, with your bro Kenny
>ywn stay up all night playing DnD with LaChappa for a dungeon master
>ywn get up early in the mornings to go running with Vanessa, your track partner
>ywn make out with AJ in the back of your car after a Misfits concert
>ywn help Chad to become less of a dick, and in the process become great friends
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>>182110456
Like hell it's not.
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>>182110456
To me it is.

Unfortunately its Jenny's only effective stat, and since Deb is useful in other areas, Deb is the correct counselor to play as
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Did the camera always zoom in when Jason is about to come out of shift near you, or did that come in an update? This makes it way easier to dodge grabs
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>>182106719
AJ is the worst, Google the testing that was done on what stats actually do you garbage player
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>>182111338
Or you could all stop being bitches and play the best character, random.

That people put some kind of weird effort into and even want to min/max in F13 of all games is mind blowingly dumb sounding.
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>>182067501
Yeah theres a glitch like that with the drivers seat of the car, happened to me twice
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>>182111338
AJ isn't the worst though, what about tubby, a straight downgrade from Deborah?
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>>182111338
>AJ is the worst,
No.
Jenny is objectively the worst counselor.
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Hey, question-

When do you unlock self care on claudette? I'm level 13 and haven't seen it yet. I was just wondering if perks like that are at set levels or if it's totally random. My friend is level 40 and only has rank 1. Is she just unlucky or does she need to buy the other perks that are showing up so that new ones can appear?
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Vanessa is objectively the worst, she's both ugly and black.
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>>182111997
It's random. Only teachables are set on 30\35\40.
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>>182112221
She looks like she was suppose to be white originally but did a color swap at the last second. Straight, stringy hair on a black woman in the 80s? Yea, right.
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>>182112313

Oh wow, so it's possible she's just super unlucky and they literally aren't showing up/won't show up? Should she buy whatever perks she keeps seeing to get new ones to show?
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>>182112221
She's mathmatically the best though, which Chad second.
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What's everyones thoughts on Fox? Think she'll be a good addition to the game as another Tommy or random Counselor?

Only asking since they had something planned for her.
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>>182112601
She should unlock whatever perk a level offers, perks not picked up just keep reappearing.
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>>182112704
>Muh tier lists

lol
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>>182112938
Why would they have something planned for a random thug chick that got abruptly killed?
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>>182112938
It's neat, I'm pretty much cool with them adding as many visually neat movie characters as they can get. The real dream would be getting Creighton Duke in this bitch though.
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>>182113015
They're thinking about adding her as a tribute to the lady, Gloria Charles. Plus it's probably also just a good excuse to make a brawler girl.
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>>182113120
The duke's contribution is the bear-hug kill.
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>>182113015
She made a pretty big impression on the fans. Type of character that stood out no matter how small the role. After hearing she passed the Devs wanted her in as a small tribute.
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>>182112980
>General saying who is the best characters based on states
>I'll just handwave the actual best because I'm not sexually attracted to them
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>>182113605
Are they going to give her straight-ass hair in a pony-tail too?
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>>182113605
Saying who's "the best" is dumb though because the actual best is just a well rounded group of a couple people running together. If everyone played Vanessa you'd just have a bunch of monkeys sprinting everywhere, eventually getting walked down and failing to pour the gas a dozen times before dying under the pressure.
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>>182113848
Vanessa can just out jog even running Jasons for the entire game. Sure it won't be as exciting as getting objectives done, but if you know how to play her you literally will never die.
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>>182113432
>After hearing she passed the Devs wanted her in as a small tribute.

They're going about it in the dumbest way possible

>We're trying to contact the family to get their permission to put them into this ultra violent game where we can tear her fucking head off
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>>182115018
She was in a horror movie. They want the character, not the person.
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Is F13 down on PC? Getting a database error.
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>>182110562
That sounds nice.
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>>182046839
>death throws
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>f13fags keep trying to act like their game is good in anyway.
How you niggas get stockholm over $40? Just work an extra half a shift!
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>>182068071
Halloween my dude, Myers is a solid killer.
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>Solo repair the boat in Pancake Lodge as Tiffany (only missed one skillcheck on the propeller)
>it took me like 15 minuets to find the gas
>notice only a single Chad has died the whole match
>everyone is gathered on the main road just outside of the main lodge
>it's 4 Vanessas and and Tommy bullying Jason
>All five of them are screaming at Jason in Portuguese
>Oh_Boy.jpg
>Run in with a bat just as one of the Vanessas gets grabbed by SackHead Jason
>Everyone starts cheering for me when I save her
>"*happy Portuguese* TIFFANYYY!!! *loud Portuguese*"
>All 5 of us have bats, except for Tommy who refuses to let go of his battery
>Join the bully circle for the last 4 minutes
>by the end I've gone through 1 machete, 1 wrench, and 2 bats
>All the Vanessas are dressed the same so its all a blur
>Tommy gets insta-choked in the last 30 seconds
>Time runs out
>receive 5 friend requests all at once

Tell me about your most favorite match you've ever had.
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>>182117818
>Escape by the four seater with four dudes a few moments into the game
>Come back instantly as Tommy
>Help them repair the boat
>remaining 3 get out
>Just me and megguthed
>running through shit crashing everywhere all over the place
>the police arrive because I called them right after I spawned as Blommy Blarvis the Tommy Retardis
>sprint out with the blues
>whole game Jason is complaining, the kid behind the mask sounds young enough to eat for free at a restraunt
>level up too just because
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>>182117818
>Get this in my first cabin I found after spawning on packanack
>Slap the gas in the car
>Knife both his traps at the phone
>Slap the fuse in and run up and use my "My Dad's a Cop"
>Blast Jason with the shotgun when he rage ports in because his fun is over
>Kite him around while stunning him through unfully unbroken doors with bats I found along the way
>Jason rage quits as the police show up and he's still 0/7
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>>182106897
if you get that one perk that makes sprinting quieter she can sprint noisefree.


besides the girl next door is the best at hiding, but since rage mode exists it doesnt matter
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>>182111172
it zooms in when you get super startled
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>>182112221
she is the best distracter though.

best stamina and speed, 6/10 luck.

chad is a meme
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>>182112938
looks fun
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>tfw we all have Jason tactics that you keep to yourself to prevent it from spreading and Jason getting even more OP
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>>182120559
No we don't. The only tactic you do with him is C+m2 and shift grab
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>play part 6
>pick up the two shack knives +1 from wherever you choose to use your weak as fuck morph first
>have 7 knives
>spam knives everywhere and shift to finish off limpers
>combat stancing doors or people is now extra effective because of retard range on spear poke
>just poke everyone until they're bloody and knife them to limp
>shiftgrab kills everywhere
>Part 2
>leaven normal traps like you were a different part
>use extra to fuck over people trying to ring you around the rosie and people hiding in things
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>>182121204
>>182120559
>>
Is Tiffany really any good or is she just a very efficient leech?
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>>182122038
she can kite i guess, not as good as vanessa.

when playing as her you basically just let other people do everything
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>>182120559
I have a counsellor tactic that I don't share, to prevent Jason from shit-stomped by anyone willing to cooperate with the people on their team.
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>>182120819
Naw mine has to do with morphing
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add that perk that lets you start the car faster to the list of perks that dont work.
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>>182117818
>Die really early on as Adam but learn the location of the phonebox and fuse
>Spawn in as Tommy and proceed to call cops
>Wait in a cabin with like 5 of the other counselors while Jason tunnels another Adam on the other side of the map
>Cops show up
>Literally 6/7 counselors make it to the exit
>But Adambro is still kiting and juking the tunneling Jason near Higgins
>Decide that my work as Jarvis is not yet over
>Grab my trusty shotgun from a Deb I let borrow it and head back to save Adambro
>A bugzy, a different Deb, and a Kenny, decide to follow me without my even asking
>We gather what weapons and supplies we can while proceeding to Adam/Jason
>Adambro is kiting through the barn windows but he's out of weapons and injured
>We stun Jason and heal Adambro
>Proceed to stun and juke Jason halfway across the map, mostly using cabins to recover stamina before running some more
>We eventually run out of weapons and pocket knives
>Myself, Kenny, and Buggzy, all die buying time for the others
>Adam and Deb are barely able to escape
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>>182117287
Do the tea bags hurt you? What made you this way?
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>>182122038
If you can handle her repair she becomes op af.
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>>182122038
>That face
Horrifying
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>>182123928
Yeah, ganassa does bad faces, but bodies are usually pretty good.
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>>182123292

>6/7 make it to the exit
>3 people died buying time
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Would f13 be a good game if grab was completely removed?
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>>182124485
no, just buff composure so you cant grab kill an uninjured jenny

they arent nerfing jason so focus on buffing the counselors
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>>182023616
>why shift grab
Because Jason 7 would never be able to catch some people. The best option would be to only allow shift grabbing if you have a strength to grip.
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>>182125635
plus it prevents bodyblocking.

isnt that a gripe ppl have with dbd
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Boy I sure do love being in a lobby with full American accents but still have three times the ping I have in every other game when playing F13
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>>182116432

You idiot, they're going to the family to get permission to use her likeness. If they wanted strictly the character, they wouldn't bother going to the family in the first place.
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>>182076081
we DID get something better than DBD tho
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>>182115018
dunno man, i'd be honoured to get myself immortalized (ironically by dying a lot) in a game
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>>182128998

Too bad she's dead and can't give her blessing so it falls in her loved ones to give the clear who probably don't want to see her get her shit torn to pieces.
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>>182127171
>tfw have to highest ping in the game at 500+ ms
>somehow I'm the only one who escaped
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How do I stop getting mad when i lose?
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>reddit pissed off because devs are hugboxing tumblrites
>4chan angry because someone got called a bad word

Seems like SS13 fags got out of their hugbox
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>>182129380
You have to realize it's only a video game.
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why do we keep playing both these games?
There both bad and are only really fun 5% of the time
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>>182131082
Life is only fun around 1% of the time, and yet, for some reason, we keep on living.
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>>182131082
Find a funner game anon.

>>182131161
Find a psychiatrist
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>>182131082
I still play F13 because playing as Jason is genuinely satisfying all around to be honest. Plus some of the odd, sometimes humorous (if it's someone trying to be funny they can still sometimes be) interactions you see out there. Shit like counselors jumping through closed windows on purpose then standing up and going "What's up" or someone abruptly getting cut off mid sentence because they got picked up. DbD's over competitive people kill it for me personally.
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Which killer do I grind first if I want a genstopping build?
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>>182131509
hag
nurse
doctor
trapper
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>>182132447

Which perks?
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>>182131509
>>182132563
Trapper-Brutal Strength
Hag-Ruin

>>182132447
>Doctor

Overcharge is trash
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>>182132658

Does Thanatophobia, BS, Ruin and Whispers sound like a good one?
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>>182132995
I'd probably swap out Thanatophobia for Thrill.
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>>182134070

I'm pretty new, so I don't know what the benefits of having Thrill over Thanatophobia are.
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>>182129380
This is gonna sound stupid, but in all seriousness; have a wank before playing so you're too drained to be angry.
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>>182135484
Makes it's easier to defend your Ruin totem.
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>>182135484
Not that guy but I'm assuming he'd want you to use Thrill for extra totem security to keep ruin going.
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>>182129165
well, since her family is presumably black they'll just want some gibs and then they'll give the rights to the likeness.
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Anyone else find that buggzy players are always the most helpful?
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>>182138650
>see 4 people get into the car
>I've missed my seat so I carry on with the phone fuse
>hear a commotion with the car, they got attacked by Jason, a bunch of players got killed
>a minute later a player asks me where I am
>tell him I'm at the phone cabin
>a moment later the 4 seater rocks up with 3 buggzy's inside
>they wait for me to jump out a window and dodge Jason
>jump in
>can hear Tiffany get slaughtered in the distance as we all escape

When the community is great it's really great.
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>>182125906
Yes but people will ignore any of that because they don't actually care and just want to keep propagating the autistic 'rivalry' that most people don't give a shit about.
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>>182129626
>Devs
>Hugbox

What, they banned an autist for going crazy, then the autist was the one who scrambled for backpats and updoots. Also in what way is this related to SS13 even in the most tortured stretch of logic nigga.
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>>182131421
>DbD's over competitive people kill it for me personally

This is really the root of it for me too. NOBODY wants to just fuck around and have interesting stories in DbD anymore, it's literally just "muh pips", early on when it still felt like there was some semblance of horror the game was a really good time, but now everyone plays it like fuckin LeL or somethin where gotta follow the min/max MUH META build and abuse everything possible until the next patch. It sucked all the life out of the game for me.
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>>182138650
Buggzy and Adam are usually the genuine cool dudes of the game, because they're not just playing for "Muh gotta go fast vanessa monkey around for 20 minutes" and usually realize they're there to make objectives doable and battle Jason's ass to save others.
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>>182142984
>vanessa monkey around for 20 minutes

I don't understand why people even do this, running out the clock for a win in any game is boring as hell, some people are way too thirsty to just be told "You win" for once in their life.
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>>182142702

They banned a guy for calling someone a whore and when the guy made a negative review (justifiably) the dev branded with the criminal acts of a pedophile. Not only that the same dev didn't even have video evidence but only the word of the accuser (whom they knew).

They didn't even ban the people who were working with Jason even though jason helpers are against their rules. How this website of all places could take the dev's side is laughable.
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>>182122038

Like Vanessa, if you set out to play a specific team role, then yes, you can play that role. Not like Jenny, who has basically nothing to contribute to the team that couldn't be done by any warm body.
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>>182142857
why would you fucking try to?
i try to "roleplay" the trapper as best as i can , i play with them, i peek at them from corners without goin ham and shit like that to make the game "funnier" and what you get back from them is literally pallet looping and shit
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>>182144337
What are they supposed to do? As survivor you're expected to run and win time for the team, and I don't even emote or nod at killers because that's somehow BM.Maybe they could give some "I'm scared shitless" or screaming emotes outside of Doc's.
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>>182129380
I actually don't care about getting killed, nor do I get mad at the killer.

I get pissed off when I get matched with shitty teammates, though. Like seriously, 5 generators still to do and 2 of my teammates get slugged trying to unhook this one guy.
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>>182131082
I keep playing DbD because of the grind.
I like finding ultra rare stuff so I can fuck around with it in the next game.
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>>182143653
>Even though jason helpers are against their rules

They talked about this even before the thing happened, they mean like someone grouped with Jason just leading them around on a leash to everyone. People spontaneously making way for Jason for a second to kill someone being a shithead has been pretty much universally okayed from the start of this game. I wish I could say it was laughable that anyone could take the side of the DINDU NUFFIN but then summer contrarianism and vidya outrage culture is still all the rage right now.
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>>182144337
That's what I mean, nobody actually wants to enjoy DbD anymore, it's practically squarely in the "Muh e-spurts" category now.
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>>182146073
So they clearly have no define set of whose helping and whose not. With that definition it would be hard to prove any sort of helper at all.

This is as stupid as them allowing combat stance to breakdown doors despite it obviously not being implemented for that and is an exploit.
Too lazy to fix their fuckups and mere shit-talk is bannable. I hate how modern gaming has become hugbox bullshit and who you know.
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>people defending Gun because the guy was stimming out
>he spent 40 dollars on the game
>40 dollars gone because you called a kid a whore
>children on a M rated game get off scott free breaking the rules
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>>182145928
Yeah, two things make me uninstall - getting farmed by my own teammate, and seeing my whole team getting downed right next to each other before I had a chance to even finish a generator. Even better when they stay glued together instead of trying to crawl off in different directions so I can pick them up while he's checking on another one, let's just make it easy for the killer to guard us.
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>>182147412
*want to
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>every single match is four claudettes because she's hard to see cause shes a nigger

well, can't say its not realistic, the whispering should be replaced with monkey chimping
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>>182147412
i know the feeling
all 3 of them were downed almost from the start and all 3 were downed together at least 5 times throughout the match
meanwhile i fixed 4 gens by myself and never got hit
ive been in 6 matches like this, 1 nurse, 2 billies, a myers, and 2 trappers
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>>182146840

combat stance breaking down doors is fine, being able to cancel the attack immediately into block isn't. He doesn't have to commit to anything.
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>>182147409

He paid 40 dollars, then agreed to the TOS, and then egregiously violated them.

If I pay thirty grand for a car and then lose my license for running someone over, neither the state nor the car manufacturer owes me my money back. It's on me to use my purchase responsibly.
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>>182148218
>buy car
>person jumps in front of you and sues you even though they werent injured
>lose car, person gets off scot free
totally your fault
both people are in the wrong
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>>182148218
>pay for car
>wreck car after it breaks
>car manufacturer puts out recall on their cars after you wreck
>says its your fault cause they put out a recall
>judge agrees since the company is their colleague
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>>182147409
People that go #freedingus are retarded. The problem is that the devs go around banning people without proof, so you could end up with a permaban on your account just for running over one of the devs' friends if they're a vengeful bitch.

Dingus admitted to going off and calling people faggots and whores eventually, and couldn't even hold his autism back when given chance to present his case.
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>>182147617
The worst part is that it really is an impossible thing to address even from purely arguing on gameplay. How do they change her when the problem literally is "Black person in the dark" without someone going ape. The best thing they can do is probably just never go past tan when making new characters.
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>>182148819
>Dingus admitted to going off and calling people faggots and whores eventually, and couldn't even hold his autism back when given chance to present his case.

Yep. You can try and make the case for both parties being punished, even though it sounds like it was just dilly being a bitch and then crying when they got hit for talkin shit, but the people acting like they actually did nothing wrong are more retards who did no actual investigation and are jumping on the outrage wagon for upboats and circlejerk points.
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>matched against three claudettes and asian chick
>Myers
I guess people only play claudette cause they can't win any other way, then again i did kill them all.
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>>182149406
myers is trash tho
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>>182149008
Make her clothes bright. Done
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>>182149008
Meg who's a blonde white chick had two pink tops as base clothes, while Claud had a non-shiny dark red coat and a less pink shirt than Meg's. The L2D shirts only added to the problem, but she shouldn't have been given darker clothes from the get-go when she was the most stealthy by nature.
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>>182148218

>MUH TOS

Quit the fucking horse shit Gun Dev. The "TOS" shit you keep throwing around was a fucking list of vague reasons for a ban that they only posted on Reddit. It was not presented in the game itself at all. You fuckers keep throwing TOS around when the scenario should have called for banning both sides. Yet only one side got the hammer. So are we now going to ignore them?

So which one fucking is it?
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>>182149624
>not staying at evil rank 1 and sneaking up on people at generators and getting a insta down on them
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>when it's not even a minute into the round and the two bill two claudette combo already have two generators on blackwater swamp
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>>182148218
>TOS
>only actually present on their plebbit page and forums
>if you don't actively follow and participate in Gun's social media presence, you are never even presented with the rules that you are breaking
kek
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>>182150959
How's rank 20 these days?
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>>182150958
>It was not presented in the game itself at all

I don't know why people like you keep harping on this. Ignorance isn't an excuse.

>"Man I wonder if this game, like virtually all other MP-centric games ever made, has a policy against going into a tismfit and reeeeing out slurs"
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>>182152092
More fun than anything else the game has to offer? I mean not even them but the game is legitimately much, much more fun at shittier ranks unless you beat your dick raw to the thought of seeing more and more rooms of pallet looping black jacket claudettes with BT, DS and everything else shitting it up.
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>>182152401
its illegal to not have a terms of service statement inside any program
fuck off gun
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>>182152663
>its illegal to not have a terms of service statement inside any program

???
Are you OK, bud?
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>>182153112
it is against the law to not have a tos statement that is not included with a computer program upon install
i repeat;
fuck
off
gun
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>>182153112
That guy is retarded, but partially correct in a way.

Software generally requires the user to agree to a terms of service inside the software itself in order to be legal. It's not that a TOS can't exist outside the software, and it can even be implied that purchase of the software is agreeing to the TOS. The problem is that many courts would still rule that a "soft" TOS is non-binding because the consumer never actually physically agreed to anything. That is why so many software products have a "TOS page" you have to scroll through and then accept before you can use the software.

So that guy is partially wrong. It's not "illegal to not have a TOS in the program," it's just that most courts in the western world will determine the TOS non-binding if it's not.
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>>182153523
Actually, all ToS are potentially non-binding, since the terms are more or less forced on the purchaser after they've paid for it, but before they've had any chance to evaluate or examine the product, and the purchaser isn't in a position to negotiate the terms in any way.

Nobody has been willing to fight it in court, because the process would be undoubtedly expensive, until recently. John Deere has been trying to use a ToS on the software in their tractors, to prevent farmers from fixing them on their own. Some people have been challenging it, and states had introduced "right to repair" laws, attempting to limit over-reaching EULAS and ToS. I haven't heard much lately, other than the bills getting buried in a few states.
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I have DbD for ps4 and sometimes there's a bug which doesn't let me wiggle but more importantly doen's let me escape if not through the hatch,this already happened three times and i've been playing for less than a week.Does this happen to anyone else?
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>>182154537
>Comparing apples to oranges
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>>182154827
Yes, it's a known bug in 1.5.1
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>>182154854
>>>Comparing apples to apples
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>>182155024
>An esport tryhard competitive game and a nostalgia-fueled casual multiplayer game are comparable
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>>182154854
>comparing an asymmetrical horror game about a slasher hunting down survivors as they desperately attempt to fix what they need to escape to an asymmetrical horror game about a slasher hunting down survivors as they desperately attempt to fix what they need to escape
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>>182154972
Ok,thanks
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>>182155212
>Only one game we are comparing fits that criteria
>Acts like both games fit that criteria

Huh. Really gets the noggin' joggin'
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>>182155212
Now come on nigga, it's dumb to be so willfully dense about this, there's no big contention about it even either so it's not some controversial thing to say they're very different games aiming for pretty different groups of people as well. I say that as someone who enjoys both and for very different reasons.
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"Friday The 13th" has thirteen characters in its title!
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>>182156235
>They both have shit tier numbers

You're not actually doing DbD a lot of favors on that one.
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>>182156235
>twitch mattering

I'm a dbdfag, but please.
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>>182156651
>>182156716
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>>182157184
>removing Recent Reviews
What is this, Netflix?
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>>182152401

Answer the question.

Both parties violated your glorious TOS. Why does only one get the ban hammer and the other does not?
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>>182158167
>your

Oh fuck off /v/ermin, people can disagree with you and call you a shit eating faggot without having to be totally some paid plant. From everything that's come out it sounds like dilly was a cunt, jumped on some people, they did what a shit ton of people do when one person's being a cunt and they asked Jason to kill him. He sperged out, got banned, played the victim and ribbit took the bait like they always do. Is the only defense they have anymore still "BUT ONE OF THEM WAS TWELVE" like you'd expect redditors to obsess over.
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>>182158167
Why the hell are you talking to him as if he was praetorian?
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>>182158614
Because it's the epin new meme to pretend everyone who disagrees on this is from gun like an actual child would.

>Nobody can disagree with me unless they're secretly being paid to!
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>>182157184
I refuse to believe F13 has 74% positive reviews.
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I really miss /dbdg/
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>>182159128
>Nothing but Rusty and Korbin blogs and people saying how much better f13 would be
We're better this way, even if its just a different type of shit.
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>>182159128
People talk about it plenty when people actually present something to talk about.
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>>182159128
By all means, discuss dbd. If you had a bad game we're here to pet you and tell you you're not at fault.
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>>182159262
>forgetting all of our other blog posters
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>>182159542
They were the most common and the worst.
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>>182159641
korbin was absolutely abhorrent but I can think of a few that were worse than rusty. Sloppy for starters.
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>>182091193
I guess an F13 game was never meant to be. Nobody will ever make an F13 game after this, certainly not with Kane Hodder, Harry Manfredini and Tom Savini.

The lord giveth and the lord taketh away I guess.
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Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friiiieends?
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>>182160235
Because of autismos with irrational grudges trying to push their meme rivalry.
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>>182159262

At least /dbdg/ posted webms

All /assg/ does is bitch about DBD, praise Gun Media for being brave and standing up to bullies and bitch about the game being broken
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>>182156235
you can't blame twitch streamers being unable to make f13 interesting.
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>>182159964
Tom Savini is overrated garbage. Rob Bottin any day of the week.
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>>182165057
>Being this much of a vee contrarian
>>/out/
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>They don't purposefully lose ranks as a killer with this new system so they can have fun again for once

Niggers don't know what you're missing, jesus christ does it feel wonderful to see characters other than claude and nobody running BT.
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>>182166618
You're just as bad as man who cuts his dick off just so he can fight women.
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>>182165643
clearly you aren't familiar with the 'work' of savini as compared to bottin. Like I said, he is overrated garbage but keep up with your shitty meme talk.
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>>182166882
>Im-fucking-plying

High level gameplay already feels more like a disabled amateur fighting Tyson in his prime, as if I should give a single shit about unbalanced matches when the frogs sure seem not to.
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This whole F13 debacle makes me want to keep working on my "how I would improve the game" document. I'm a fucking idiot but I think I could make a better game than Gun Media.
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>>182167315
This

I'll care when the devs start caring
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>>182167620
All you need for your document as far as the 'debacle' is concerned is this, "As a dev or in charge of bans, don't be a shady/one-sided cocksucker."
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>>182169568
It's like Gun Media didn't plan on having any kind of report/ban system so their only option was to permanently ban people because that's their only option. Fucking morons, it's like they've never played a multiplayer game before in their lives.
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>>182169568
>Shady

lol, dilly spotted
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>>182169790
Add to the fact that they have no regional servers (or legit servers to begin with during the whole launch bullshit) to separate the chinks and slavs from the western players.

No one wants to play with others that don't speak their language and people DEFINITELY don't want to play with others that have fucking 500+ ping that chant 'chinima numbuh wann'
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>>182170069
>No one wants to play with others that don't speak their language

It really doesn't bother me desu
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>>182170046
So there is nothing shady about one shithead getting the hammer for shit-talk (which is bullshit anyway) and the others not despite breaking the rules as well?

Fuck off with your goddamn meme talk.

I hate summer.
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>>182170069
I'm not even aware what servers are official and what are P2P, since it's hard for me to find a game with low ping.
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>People are still upset over that guy getting banned
lmao grow up and play the gameplay
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I'm kinda tired of defending F13. They had plenty of time and there're still no repercussion for those who leave immediately when they see they won't be Jason. You are still forced to watch the whole match after you're dead if you want your points, however. And Jason can still just combat block walk through anything. Why are Gun so fucking inept at design, they had an awesome concept here and they just can't fucking make it work. not to mention that 3 of the male counselors' voices have been broken since fucking launch and they all use Kenny's VA. How fucking hard is it to fix that,
seriously?
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>>182170168
Language isn't the reason people don't want to play with Chinese and Russians.
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>>182171696
Only time I really defend it is over the dumb ban shit. Like boo hoo an autist couldn't control themselves, lied about it, then immediately afterwards lost control again and blew their whole victim angle.

The other shit like the voices and goofy combat block everything stuff though yeah, that's retarded and needs fixing. What's weirder about the voices too is that they're absolutely in there, they randomly come out of Tommy for some reason semi-often, but the paths pointing to the lines are all twisted the fuck up or something I guess?
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>>182172124
I mean the chinamen haven't ever given me trouble on here, most of them have been friendly and at least tried to use their super wonky english, which almost leads me to believe at least -some- of you nigs aren't telling full stories. The slavs are as garbage as they ever are though, SOOKA BLEEYET x10000.
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>>182172397
I don't know, man, but they had how many days now to fix the fucking voices? Plenty. Seriously it cannot be this fucking hard to make your game use the correct voice files on the user's computer.
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>>182172827
Is that a bug? I remember seeing a dev tweet saying that some of the male characters shared a voice actor.
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>>182173183
SOME of them do, but Adam, Buggzy and Lachappa all have unique lines in the files. Adam has a deeper "Hey bro" rocker kinda voice, Buggzy sounds more like how he actually looks and take a wild guess at Lachappa.
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>>182173183
Every counselor had unique voice lines recorded, and in the released product LaChappa, Buggzy and Adam are using Kenny's voicelines for everything for some reason. Go check on youtube if you wanna hear their "real" voices, they're pretty cool. Just fucking bugged since release.
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What do I do if I want to have good fun in this game?
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How many hours have you logged on F13? What about DbD?
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>>182175000
Play with friends or play a different game
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>>182175632
92 on F13, 66 on DbD.
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>>182175632
>f13
249
>dbd
1388

I need a life
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>>182175000
Don't bother playing killer because the frogs only care about their special babies, the survivors.
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>>182175000
Ace is my waifu! I want to do loving things by the campfire with him!
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>>182175632
116 hrs into F13, but I'm on the verge of quitting
guess I got my money's worth, so not particularly feeling jewed
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>>182176836
Spectacular taste, anon
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>>182176836
Wonder who could be behind this post...
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>>182175632
Dbd: 400 F13: 0,5
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>>182143518
because if she distracts jason for 20 minutes. then everyone lives
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>I play survivor
>1 gen done in 4 minutes while I get chased

>I play killer
>gens going off anywhere when I'm in a chase
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>>182178849
What's your ranks of both?
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>>182178849
>everywhere

>>182178919
rank 8 survivor, rank 12 killer
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>>182176591
I have fun playing killer, I actually find it relaxing compared to survivor.
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>>182173183
They each have unique voices. Only males with different voices are Tommy and Chad. The rest share Kenny lines.

I'm at least hoping the voices will be fixed when Single Player rolls in.
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Part 2 Jason is OP, double-trapping the phone and other objectives makes it basically impossible for counselors to win.
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>>182180381
He destroys pubbies but he's one of the weakest Jasons when up against teams that have 3+ coordinated members.
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>>182180480
>when up against teams that have 3+ coordinated members.
I've seen that happen maybe 2 times after 30 hours of play.
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>>182180381
2 has the shit shift, as long as you're not running through a massive stretch of nothing he's laughably easy to just juke out.
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>>182183518
>Nimrod enters house and goes for window
>morph outside
>kill
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>>182180210
I sure can't wait for the tutorial single player with less than two hours of playtime and broken A.I!
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>>182186105
And yet it'll still be more enjoyable than playing DbD killer
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Wraith buff W H E N fucking frogs
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>>182188369
Never, they just hate poor Ojomo for some reason.
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>>182189421
Pretty sure he's just the measuring stick at this point.
Can't make anyone worse than wraith.
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EVERY FUCKING MATCH
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>>182191201
Just unzip you mo-
Oh.
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>>182167315
patrician

>>182166882
plebeian and retarded simile
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>>182191201

None of them are in the Left4Dead shirt or anything that camouflages well. Do you even know what you're angry about?
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>standing next to the hatch for 5 minutes when the killer is nowhere near

why? we had both exits open, I went to pee while on the ending screen and saw that I can still spectate on return. It was just Claud sitting on the hatch spinning her camera around. I wish I could betray her, but she would just jump into the hatch anyway.
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>>182191949
Yeah i'm mad about every match being fucking 50 claudettes and bills
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>>182192359
>and bills
When did bill become a hated character?
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>>182192505
I guess because BT belongs to him, so a Bill player always runs that perk.
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>>182192359

Let me rephrase that question. Why does that make you mad?
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have the f13 devs announced anything about their plans for the game or ETA or bug fixes?
i can't find anything but people talking about the bans.
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>>182192673
because there are more than two characters in the fucking game and im tired of people picking her because she's black and therefore harder to see
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>>182192673
Not them but partially yeah >>182193958 it's twofold of once you get high enough up she's virtually all you see anymore and also that she's picked for a dumb cancerous reason of having an innate advantage.
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i've got an idea for a dbd killer
an alien thats power lets him see heat signatures of survivors through objects when close by.
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>>182192673
Can third that i really think they should white wash Claudette with bright outfits to offset her natural camouflage or atleast have more white bark trees/ grey rocks. thinks she can't easily blend into too.
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Is there a good video tutorial on how to play DbD? I have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing either as survivor or killer.
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>>182194663
Killer: Search & Destroy

Survivor: Ninja-electrician training
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>>182194663
He will teach you everything you need to know.
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>Facecamped by a Wraith
>I pip he doesn't
Feelsgood.jpg
I almost thought he was that try hard on that blog posts on here, but he just thought I was hacking because in of lag.
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>>182195838
>Shitternig
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>play hillbilly
>move mouse to steer around corner
>wildly does a 90 degree turn into wall
>chase survivor, barely turns
>bait survivor into throwing down pallet
>runs straight into it with chainsaw and it acts like I hit a wall

why doesn't this killer work? chainsaw doesn't break pallets 90% of time, turning is either too fast or too slow
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>>182195838

It's not nice to troll people who have no way of knowing better, Anon.
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>hillbilly on the doctor's map
why would they make a map that completely ruins a killers ability
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>>182198341
Because the devs hate Billybros
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>>182198341
>I'm bad on 1 map
>reeeeeeee
You're just going to ass saw anyway, so what fucking difference does it make?
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Is it bad of me that I love chasing and shocking people who are completely fucked? Doctor's one of the only killers where I actually have fun doing some evil shit and toying with people.
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>>182199397
If the doctor actually starting talking during a match I wouldn't be surprised. He's the most human out of all of them and that's what makes him the most fucked.

He doesn't even have a Ph.D
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>>182200142
I'd love that, his laughs and cackles when you hit someone with the treatment is so satisfying, which is probably one of the bigger reasons for the aforementioned love of going Palpatine on people.
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>gay claudette teabagging behind a pallet
>shock her to madness three
does being madness three make it so you cant pallet?
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>>182201042
"These are the interactions they cannot do while experiencing Madness III:
Healing themselves and other Survivors
Sabotage hooks
Repair generators
Cleanse totems
More Afflictions are available with Add-ons"
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>>182201042
No
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I'm new to the game, how's my taste.

I've heard Michael's perks are bad but I really just wanna knife people to spooky Halloween music.
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>>182201042

No, that would be stupid. However, if you time it just right, your shocks can interrupt their pallet drops or vaults, giving you the chance to hit them.
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>>182201903
Play who you like and savor it while you're at lower levels, Michael's perks used to be pretty good and then got utterly shit on though yes.
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>>182201903
Play Myers but dump all your BP into Trapper until you get the Brutal strength teachable.
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Which survivor/counselor would you hang out with?
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>>182206161
Deborah would probably be cute to hang around. That or Adam just because he sounds like a good dude.
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>>182206161
Playing swf with Feng Min.
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Fuck it, I started selling out people to killers. I had enough of people afk camping a hatch after the match is over while another idiot sits in the basement farming boldness.
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I'm just quitting out of rooms any time it's all bills and claudes from now on, the shit is literally never fun, not one single time. It's always the same cancer perks and the same shitty attitudes.
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>>182209858
Have you considered getting good?
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>>182209940
I end up killing at least 2 and hooking others a time or two every time, it's not le epik git gud shit, it's just zero fun. Oh look they're pallet looping and they all have BT and self-care and DS, weeee.
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>>182191961
>nigress
>black shirt
>ez mode perks
>behaving like a faggot
Is this really a surprise?
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>tfw never been to the Halloween map and kind of always looked forward to seeing it cause spooky neighborhood sounds cool
>Finally get on it
>People going to spots where even if I knock them down, they'll break out of grab because of how far the nearest hook is
>Did this in like three different spots
>Got hit by pallets that were pushed down feet away from me
>Tons of shit in the way for Billy

Jesus christ, did they purposefully make this map miserable for killers.
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>>182211390
lol have you even tried playing billy on the doctors map
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I'm new, can anyone give me some genstopper builds for Trapper?
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>>182212104
The genstopper perks are Hex:ruin and Thanatophobia. Just pray your totem doesn't spawn on the other side of the map right in front of a survivor. Dying light also slows games down, but it's a bit trickier to execute, since you need to look for your obsesseion.

You can run Brutal Strenght and Whispers, or Thrill of the Hunt for distraction and Ruin protection.
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>>182211604
Oh no, I know that's the absolute worst in terms of completely throwing billy's ability in the trash, but holy shit, I felt like I'd go three feet on the Halloween map before he'd trip over a coke can in the road.
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>>182212473

So I use Thanatophobia and Ruin in the same build? Or is it too redundant? I'm grinding Hag, and I think I'll grind Nurse too then.
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>>182213867
It's repetitive, but you can use them together for a bigger headache for the survivors.
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>>182023616
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>>182213231
imagine billy running through a china shop yelling sorry every time he knocked something over
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>>182214971
>Game isn't dying
>Their main competition is making them look like saints in the PR department
>Thinking they're doing anything but riding high
Terrible meme my friend.
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>>182214545

So the most ideal build is Ruin, Whispers, BS, and Thrill?
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>>182216405
It's an example for a genstopper build, but you can play around with perks seeing what works best for you. Some players absolutely hate totems, depending on the spawns they can either destroy them in the beginning, or let you snowball the match by swarming and getting downed around the totems like idiots.
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>>182216405
>whispers
>literally training wheels: the perk

just replace it with thanaphobia
you want to maximize your genstopping ability
and like the other guy said, dying light takes too long for its benefits to be effective
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>>182215867
Until they buff Ojomo the only thing they can ride my dick.
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>>182217743
>Strong perks are just called "training wheels now"
>expecting anyone to shoot themselves in the foot just to appease a cabal of survivor mains who are mad because it counters them
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>tommy comes in just to turn the radio on and leave
>morph within seconds
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>>182206161
Adam for bro Deb for waifu
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So new to DbD, can EVERYONE fucking disarm the Trappers traps? Because it sure felt like it. Every single time I'd lay one anywhere, I'd turn around for a second and it's already closed.
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>>182219614
Any survivor can disarm a trap. They can also sabotage it if they have toolboxes or run sabo, but that perk is pretty rare now.
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>>182215867

Don't even bother. Someone (probably the original creator) has been posting that image in every single thread in a pitiful bid for upvotes or whatever he expects to get. It has nothing to do with current events.
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>>182218005
Actually, I'm using it in the context that it's literally comparative to a training wheel, where it's guaranteed to provide some benefit, but when trying to maximize a build, its a waste of a perk slot.

Thanaphobia is a much better choice than whispers if he's doing a genstopper build.
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>>182219614

Yes, anyone can disarm it, or even sabotage it. Just put your traps in tall grass and hope unsuspecting people will walk in it. I put the traps near windows and vaults, or just in random tallgrass near the gens. I always get at least two people caught each match. To be honest, it's luck and if anyone sees you setting a trap, it'll be disarmed once you leave.
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>tfw unironically like Part 7 because you have to adapt a very patient and unique playstyle to play as him
>mfw even though F13 is a broken mess each Jason has impressive variance in effective playstyle
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>next survivor will likely be a cis white male
who could be excited for this
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>>182221794
Good, the less melanin the better, I'd like to hope for an albino.
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>>182221554
I'm legitimately curious what kind of playstyle you have that works well with Part 7.
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>>182222834
I like playing Part 7 very passively. I act like I'm about to take things to from a 0 to a 10 but in reality it's about securing an objective.

>1 trap phone
>2 trap one vehicle
>warp back to patrol second vehicle regularly, might not even do it if the other vehicle is the 2 seater since people seem to never go there

I'll be completely honest and say the only strength of 7 I use is his sense but having the ability to sense stronger and at a faster rate has its uses. I like to grab lots of throwing knives and let people off the hook whenever they start running for the hills, often grabbing a throwing knife and using his neutral morph speed to begin watch on the next objective. When it starts getting mid-ish game I begin really pursuing people.

As I've learned from Part 2, who has the same -shift weakness, you should really make use of Jason's ability to pursue and counselor's inability to always stay away. Morphing then shifting to get closer to the counselor you're after (not so much telegrabbing but covering ground) then relentless pursuit is my go-to. His strong Sense pretty much guarantees that you can never lose a counselor, and even a -shift Jason can catch somebody after a while. Throwing knives as mentioned earlier make this pursuit only more profitable.

Part 7 has no -morph so you should work on your scare tactics early game, carefully cycling unless someone sets off a trap early. When the persistent ones or the ones carrying parts are around you just tunnel them a decent amount with +Sense, eventually everyone will get tired of waiting and that's when +Grip STR and being good at playing Jason are important.
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>>182223714
+Stalk*, I'm retarded. But the +Stalk helps with pretending to break off chases or letting someone think they've escaped when you've really been +Sensing them the whole time
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Why does grip str matter if you can instakill when you grab?
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>>182224000
Meant for: >>182223714
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>>182224085
Throwing people through windows is useful
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>>182224000

The grip strength increase is so minuscule that it doesn't matter. It's like a 8% increase compared to other jasons.
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part 2 jason is objectively the best in my opinion.
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>>182224818
Nah, Part 3 for chiptunes.
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>>182224818
Part 2 is second place, Savini is even more OP
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>>182224154
I guess? It's not like breaking windows normally takes any significant amount of time.
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>>182224818
>>182225053
8 shits all over 2. 2 has more traps, which have become almost useless as people got their ridiculous Thick Skin rolls, he has the jog but at the cost of having the super dogshit shift. Meanwhile 8 is the only one discounting Savini with destruction, which is legitimately the best positive effect Jason can have.
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>>182225652

I've seen so many steam kids try and say that busting down doors faster doesn't matter. Which always makes me laugh because their being serious.

Also can savini do the same combat mode heavy attack(hold m1) that part 6 can do(where he stabs stuff with his spear instead of the overhead swing)?
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>>182225874
Seriously, breaking doors faster means much more constant pressure which means people run themselves down even faster. When any other Jason's whacking the door, even in combat stance, you can take a second to recuperate while he 5 swings it down. Part 8 only takes 3 and he's got a fast ass swing in the first place too.
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>>182225821
If you actually try playing it you'll find out that it's pretty fun
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>>182226313

People just don't get how good of a pressure tool it is, it's like brutal strength in dbd. Doors are basically the palettes of that game and you wanna get through them as fast as possible to keep up the pressure.
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>>182225821
>He acts like $40 is in any way a significant amount of money

Must suck being poor.
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>>182111876
Eric is for professional players to show off
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I wish Autohaven Wreckers and the Hospital were just fucking removed from the game.

>Hurr durr max visibility you can see the Killer walking on the other side of the map
>Hurr durr max visibility you can't hide at all better abuse those nice pallet loops (incidentaly Autohaven Wreckers is also the map with the most pallets)

>Hurr durr no fucking visibility at all anybody can come from every fucking direction
>Extraneous trash everywhere and thight as shit corridor, impossible to do any juking, better exploit those pallets!

Maybe if the fucking frogs made more maps like Coldwind farm where you can actually lose the killer by virtue of using his bad visibility there wouldn't be any fucking need for pallets at all.
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Recent favorite matches? Both gaymes welcome.
>be shitting it up as deb at packanack
>spawn near the map kiosk
>check the houses down the road that Jason neglects
>Find the keys and the fuse
>run into the woods between the lodge and the stranded house
>phone box is at main lodge
>check the stranded house and then head to the main house when Jason fucks off
>fix the phone box with no trap
>he shows up as I finish the call
>jump out of the top story and book it
>make a giant loop around Woodbury getting chased using a med spray and two flare guns
>lose him in the woods south of the loop
>cops show up on that side
>have baseball bat and pocket knife
>sprint towards exit
>Jason is already there
>take a glory swing and notice he saved all his traps for this
>he grabs me
>pocket knife
>dance around the traps and out
>only one to escape
>but there's one more survivor
>a Kenny with a flare gun going down the main road
>he crouches on the hill with Jason standing dead center in front of the tunnel staring at him
>he morphs and Kenny jukes him backward
>he drops firecrackers but they're too far
>shoots his flare and Jason turns
>Jason throws a knife and kennys limping
>shifts in for the kill
>Kenny had a pocket knife
>limps toward the exit but its obvious it'll be close
>Jason unstuns and shifts right in front of Kenny
>Kenny picks up the baseball bat I dropped
>cracks Jason over the head
>fall back stunned him
>lobby goes wild
>Kenny then steps on a trap and fucking dies
Triumphant and fucking hilarious
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>>182229257
new map looks like it has potential
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>>182146840
>hugbox
You are making that word meaningless by applying it to this situation. I know you dont care, but I had to say it.
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>>182156235
Meanwhile Friday the 13th is THE top selling game on PS4 STILL
Besides twitch & steam are filled with notoriously fickle people that dont stick with any game for long
Call me when DBD is outselling on console where most players are
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>>182158550
Good post. /v/ermin drama obsession is the worst. One day they'll realize they all have the personalities of women now in their quest for infinite contrariness
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>>182159128
God forbid you get new people in your general to make it less of a circle jerk
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>>182171696
>I'm kinda tired of defending F13.
Thats TOTALLY a realistic sentence that someone with no ulterior motive would say
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>>182230804
What are you implying? I am tired of defending F13. They had time to change some really shit gameplay designs, and they didn't. Level 90 here and I can't take 3+ people leaving right at the start with literally 0 penalties for doing so. Completely destroys the whole game.
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>>182231004

There's gonna be no penalty's because "it's not a competitive game!"

Also these are the people who are balancing/working on this game

https://clips.twitch.tv

/OnerousTenaciousWalletFreakinStinkin
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>>182231158
Devs are almost never good at their own games
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>>182231004
Yeah, Friday is sort of a hilarious example of truly shitty developers. Game releases with horrible bugs and only gets more as time goes on. Half the perks don't work. Kenny's voice lines are used for Bugsy and Lachappa despite them having had their own voice lines in the game files since we first had access to the game. Choosing to start a shitshow over permanently banning people for saying bad words rather than even considering a leaver penalty.
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>>182231004
Yeah I'm annoyed at a lot of things, but guns stubborn refusal to actually fix things like leavers or spectate irritates me (the sound doesn't work half the time so you can't hear Jason or the counselor).

I don't really enjoy the BAN fiasco but I'm glad people are finally realizing gun and fucking inept. Because they'd ignore everything else people still say shit like you don't "HAVE" to spectate despite it being the largest bulk of a counselors xp.
I just want gun to fucking admit they can't change it because they did it like that to cover up them not being able to get Tommy to work when people were leaving.
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>game barely puts you in a lobby thats not empty
>wait 60 minutes to get in
>four people leave roundstart
>two children scream at you in the mic and attack you
>third child comes in as jason and helps them
>call them a cunt
>jason whirliebirds into the air at 600 miles per hour and shift grabs you from the sun
>yell pocket pussy at top of your breath before 6 year old jason dick slaps your head off your neck
>chad flying the glitchiest car in the universe into the milky way by himself
>devs permaban you before fixing anything else and wonder why people care
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>>182231358
Yeah this whole drama around bans is fucking stupid. Feels like a mini-goobergate, fucking cancer. But I can't feel pity for Gun cos they have this awesome classic IP and a good core concept for the game, and they keep fucking it up with untested, phoned in game design decisions. Makes me so angry, like when you were 7 years old and your autistic cousin got the Lego set you really wanted and then proceeded to throw it into a pond piece by piece kind of angry.
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>>182172683
You kidding me dude? Every single time ive ever played Jason against chinks and use my mic they get so asshurt they try to teamkill me next round chanting I KILL YOU I KILL YOU as soon as my Jason round ends
They get absolutely assravaged when being killed by an American
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>>182231859
Hell they've even thrown shitfits at people speaking English in lobbys "SHUT UP SHUT UP" they yell in their really gay sounding chink voices
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>>182231859
>sitting in the silent lobby
>all of a sudden, over the mic, a 5000 decibel monkey man european yells "FUK UR MUDER!" as loud as possible for no discernible reason

why do they do this? do they just equate basic human interaction with being hostile?
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>>182231004
>Defending
Its that word specifically. Nobody's "defending" shit obviously they are Kickstarter devs. Of course they gonna fuck up at times until they figure out what they're doing like a year from now
Calling out LOL DEAD GAEM retards isnt "defending" anything. Im having fun. Deal with it. Or call me a shill idgaf
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>>182232095
The only people I've seen do that were French, Spanish or Russian. All three are looked down on here.
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>>182232095
They see every online game as some kind of olympics between their shitholes and ours
Really fucking stupid in a game centering around cooperation
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>>182219614
Trapper is garbage against survivors who have played for awhile, against newbs you'll probably have decent success just trapping normal spots like double pallets, killer shack, etc. Traps are, at best, 70% luck no matter where you put them. The hitbox is so small now that you can barely block off any pathways anymore. The good news is that survivors can't help themselves but disarm it for the juicy 300 points, so they really just act as global notifications of a survivior's whereabouts, with trapping people being a nice bonus.
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>>182234736
>b-but muh dark dye!
i wish trappers traps weren't so luck based.
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>getting a juicy message after discconecting from a Jason that chased you while everyone else escaped by cops
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Is anyone else getting dodged a LOT more often? Hell if I'm solo queueing I get fucked.
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>>182237098
Game? Cuz if Friday, it's not uncommon at all for game to start, and people that wanted Jason to just instantly leave. I guess the rate has amped up a little bit over the past few weeks, but that's probably just Jason players salty that they actually can still end up forced to play Counselor if they are the only person with Jason as their preferred spawn and an entire lobby of preferred counselors. Had one game earlier tonight that four people quit instantly. And without shit like the Hatch, good fucking luck making it out with 3 counselors.
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>>182237621

3 is a good number for teaming up. Assuming you all get together in time and have melee weapons.

Move as a group and have one do the objectives and the other two defend against jason.

But good luck doing that in pubs where no one talks.
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>>182237796
not that guy but Jason is going to win a war of attrition against 3 people.
you need atleast 4 counselors as meat shields in the average game to escape. and thats if jason isn't being a tryhard power gamer
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>>182237995

Thick skin+medic+blocking when he attacks and moving from house to house getting more medkits can help.

But all comes down to how good the jason is and which jason he is.
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>>182231859
>>182232019
>silent lobby
>cyrillic names
>ohboy
>get Jason
>find an oleg
>"pliss no kill me Yason, no kill me"
>grab him
>he had pocketknife
>"haaHAA fuking pusy suka Yason"
>just grab him again
>"SUKA BLYAT"
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>>182238598
THIS
every game i have with an ivan I always hear
"no gison pls no kill me"
followed by
"hahahhaAAAA idiot hayson"
Or someone taunting Jason
and saying "why you insta kill me!!!"
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>>182238980
>>182238598
I just don't even bother grabbing them if the name's Cyrillic or Chinkese. They just get the machete.
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>>182238598
>>182238980

Yason brings people together, isn' that wunderbar?
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>spawn in main cabin
>another counselor comes along, he's holding gas
>jason comes in
>chases after me instead of the other guy
>jump out 2nd story window
>jason uses morph just to come after me instead of the guy with gas
>out of stamina
>leave to deny him exp

this is the first game in years that i've legitimately gotten fucking angry at
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>spawn at the main cabin, with the four-seater and the fuse box
>Jason appears immediately
Thank you, RNG. Jason was actually a nice guy and let me run. But that shit just blows.
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>>182240595
>>182240420
Lol this game is bad.
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What's the fastest healing medkit+addon combo assuming you're also running Self-Care 3?
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>>182241003
Run SF, Botany and everything green.
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>>182241281

Just encountered this. Jason went to this specific location so that tommy jarvis would be unable to get the prompt to kill him. Excellent game, devs.
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>>182241281
>>182242367

also, this was meant to be a reply to

>>182240831
>>
>Hey guys let's turn on the radio and run away, distracting Jason!
>"Dude, don't fucking do that, he's just gonna teleport to this house the fucking second you touch the radio and get a kill"
>Nah I know this works lmao
>Jason instantly teleports and either gets a kill right away, or tunnels someone until he does
Why are people so fucking dumb?
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>>182244229
It actually works in my experience. I usually turn them on early game as I'm leaving.
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>>182245515
Everytime I've tried it or seen someone try it Jason instantly morphs over and gets a kill
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>>182244229
>jason teleports over
>uses sense
>oh fuck its just the fucking radio
>smashes door
>smashes radio
>morphs away while you're hiding under the bed

easy
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>Playing Savini Jason because people in the server wanted to see the skin
>Takes a while until I get my first kill after I trap phone and four seater
>Guy leaves mid-way through kill animation
>Annoyed because it was a kill that requires a lot of space, so I don't see it often (leg pull off)
>Kill rest of server except a Tiffany and a Bugzy, the former I bumped into a few times and seems good
>The two proceed to juke me for the rest of the game, somehow not getting hurt despite me breaking all the windows in the cabin
>After game, one of the guys whom I killed said I was a shitty Jason because I couldn't kill two people I was chasing for a long time
>Rest of the server jumps on the guy, saying the two survivors were just lucky that the windows didn't slow them down
>Next round, the guy who bad mouthed me ended up the only one getting killed

Good feelings all around.
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>Watch video for Last Year
>Killers also have the disappear and move super fast ability
>Can only use it when out of sight of the players

Fucking hell why doesn't Jason work like this?
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>>182249604
Because f13 isn't vaporware
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>>182023616
No counter play
>what is jungle gym
>what is sabotaging every hook
>what is 4 man flashlight circlejerk
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>>182028917
Yes, just as every 4 player coop is a shittier L4D clone.
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>>182145141
>you're expected to run and win time for the team
You're expected to run and hide, you mongoloid. Survivor apologist are the worst
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>>182252030
>There's no counterplay in f13 to a game mechanic
>So here's some stuff you can do in dbd
are you
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>>182234952
Worst part is that the Trapper probably won't be buffed for a while, if ever. Survivorfags still have ptsd from hook trapping, so they'll probably throw a huge fit over his buffs
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>>182253604
Hook camping wasn't what made everyone hate trappers.
Its that they'd hook trap and THEN basically walk 2 feet back and forth or just stare at you.

They're just cancer, they're the "black shirt claudes" of the killer side. No one gets into a game and see they're against a trapper and go "oh boy!" they just groan.
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http://steamcommunity.com/app/438740/discussions/0/1457328392114780377/

Redemption arc
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>>182256732
>Hook camping wasn't what made everyone hate trappers.
Its that they'd hook trap and THEN basically walk 2 feet back and forth or just stare at you
What the fuck you're talking about? Going back and forth near the hook is camping
>They're just cancer, they're the "black shirt claudes" of the killer side
No. Black shirt claudettes are tryhards first and foremost, so Nurse mains are comparable. Plus, hook trapping was never cancer, in older times you could unhook against trapper by using good teamwork, later it just gave survivors free generators, if they had a half a brain. Claudettes, on other hand, would infinite you for hours or pallet loop you around every generator and then bitch and complain if you won't let them use their DS by slugging them. Don't fucking compare nigresses and Trappers
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>>182257683
Around every pallet*
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7mS-bgYR5M

not a shill
but is this true?
f13 servers got ddosed
and they threatened to kill that f13 mod, then threatened to kill his parents after doxing them?
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>>182257869
when you start banning people for petty reasons, that tends to happen
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>>182257869
>Is this true
Have you played a game with this community? Have you seen these threads?
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>>182257683
>laudettes, on other hand, would infinite you for hours

and that's why infinitespots were removed. and so is why was traps under the hook - they both supported gamestyles that the devs didn't want to see in game.
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>>182257084
I've never played F13, but this drama is delightful.

>redditors literally blaming him for faggots doxxing and sending death threats
kek
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>>182257869
it's a flaseflag to gainer sympathy from the sheeple that visit reddit and the steam forums.
the issues with the game hasn't changed
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>>182258261
the best part is they act like hims a villain for reporting the fact he was treated unfairly.
it's like those cultures in the east where if the woman reports being raped they will arrest her and hold her responsible for being raped.
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>>182257683
Not that I think about, Nurses aren't comparable as well, since they're just tryhards, not retarded assholes tryhards. I guess killers have nothing comparable to claudettes.
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>>182258467
>assholish victim makes post
>subrabbit takes the thing to its absolute limits, defenestrates dev, plans to kill family
>blames asshole that did nothing

beautiful
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>>182258468
>trappers aren't asshole tryhards
Nice try trapper apologist
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How would you fix Jason if given the opportunity?

>Shift only works when out of sight
>Grab kill animations are interruptible by other players up until a certain point (first sign of blood explosion basically)
>Jason can now snatch people out of windows if they're standing too close or midway climbing through
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>>182257084
>I crave attention like a sorority girl craves cock
Fuck off dilly
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>>182259120
Trapper has too much weaknesses, tryhards play Nurse.
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>>182259956
I play Sally because she's purdy
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>someone asks for proof
>downvoted
really made me think, how do we know this isn't all a diversionary tactic?
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>>182260534
Purdy bad!
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>>182259956
I don't know where you play or if you even play survivor, but most Nurses I meet are more chill and need skill to get kills, a Nurse that's stupid or can't blink is easier to beat than Wraith.

While Trappers when bad just kiss the person that walked into one of his random traps to death while others escape.

A good Nurse is more fun even if she shits all over us.
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>>182260552
>Don't show proof about bans
>Dilly didn't record so can't prove or defend himself
>Game devs says you need to supply counter evidence yourself

>Praetorian can't prove he was threatened or doxed
The irony is palpable
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>>182260534
I play Hag for the nudity.
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>>182260638
NO!
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>>182260649
>but most Nurses I meet are more chill and need skill to get kills
You don't have to be an asshole to be a tryhard
>While Trappers when bad just kiss the person that walked into one of his random traps to death
Yes, and?
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>>182257869
I mean, you still can't rebind keys on PC, so it's not like the devs don't deserve it.
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>>182259956
Tryhards aren't necessarily good anon. Neae is hard to play, so if you suck at nurse you play trapper so that you can secure your one kill, and if you get lucky and the survivors aren't smart enough to break all your totems sometimes noed will get you another.
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>>182261304
You were talking about how bad it is to play against unfun Claudettes, and I said that Trappers were the Claudettes of the killers, because they can't have fun.

Why is tryharding a bad thing nowadays? She's the killer with the highest skillcap and chase potential. I just repeat myself

>A good Nurse is more fun even if she shits all over us.

Trapper and the other killers need buffs to compete with Sally, but not by giving him his trap under hook trick back.
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>>182261864
>neae
*nurse
Sorry I must've had another seizure, please excuse my mistake.
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>>182261251
YES!

I don't have any nurse images, so enjoy my favorite meme
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>>182262891
cute picture
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>>182261864
Yes, but they would seek every advantage and play the most efficient killer, who is Nurse. Or Billy.
>>182261869
>You were talking about how bad it is to play against unfun Claudettes
I was talking about how Trappers and tryhard claudettes are not comparable. Plus, after his hook trapping ability was removed, he stopped having any kind of cancer going on for him
My biggest problem with nigresses is not the fact that they're tryhards (but getting infinited or looped is fucking annoying), it's the fact that they lack self awareness
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I hope the next survivor is a delicious brown boy.
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>>182264272
We don't have a male black so, yeah it should happen to round things out.
But I'm hoping for a red goddess.
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>>182265089
>another womyn survivor
how about no
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>>182265519
Cry me a river gaylord
>>
>>182263495
Like I said, those take skill to play so if you're bad they're pretty much useless, just like our example tryhard. Trapper is easy and takes almost zero skill, plus if you do manage to catch someone they're going to die, period.
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>>182265519
>Two females added
>Two men added
>One female added
If the pattern continues it be another woman. Looks like the big bad ES JAY DOUBAS win again. boo hoo
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>>182265670
>>182267613
>More training wheels survivors

*yawn*
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>>182267858
You sound mad
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>>182267858
You mean more CUTE wheels survivors
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>>182267613
It's a good chapter for them to give a brown or red boi in tho. The last free chapter gave us two girls, so it'd be fitting to release two boys now.
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>>182267060
If Trapper would do something stupid before, or if he was against a coordinated team, then person could be saved.
>if you do manage to catch someone they're going to die, period
Only if he's going to facecamp, which is something every killer could do.
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>>182267613
>worst sailor
nigger sailor mars s1 or venus in pgsm are way worst
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>>182268885
More like if the coordinated team runs the perk designed around countering the playstyle most trappers use then they can get away. Otherwise it's usually a case of get smacked to proc borrowed time and then chased until they go down.
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>>182269780
>More like if the coordinated team runs the perk designed around countering the playstyle most trappers use then they can get away
I was talking about a time before BT existed, you dummy. Plus, you're wrong, BT is design to grief at best. It doesn't counter camping Trapper playstyle, it encourages it, since best way to counter BT is to camp.
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>>182270328
>since best way to counter BT is to camp.
>only can trigger if you camp so the best way to counter it is make it trigger
No.
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>>182270765
>Being within terror radius is camping
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>>182270765
>only can trigger if you camp
No, it triggers if unhooking happens in the terror radius.
>the best way to counter it is make it trigger
No, best way to counter it is to uhook grab, but in order to do it you must be near the hook. Let's not forget about insidious. Different killers have different ways to counter BT, but you must be close in order to do it. There is a very little reason not to camp right now
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>>182270868
>camping is the counter
>imply leaving is the real counter
>Being within terror radius is camping
I hope youre not the person I responded to, because if you are youre the most retarded killer main ive ever seen
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>all the mental gymnastics killercucks do to try and excuse camping
just admit youre too shit to catch someone again.
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>>182271621
Not an argument
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>>182271724
>double somersault
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>>182272021
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>>182270328
>best way to counter BT is to camp.
Or just leave
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>>182272251
"Not an argument" is not an argument.
Fess up. The only shame in being bad is the shame you give yourself for it.
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>>182272687
No, since you may not have a time to leave. It's like you've never played against asshole sniffing claudettes. Plus, not triggering BT early means it's going to be saved for later
>>182272895
I didn't tried to make an argument with "not an argument". I've backed up my position with arguments, would like to see yours.
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>>182272687
leaving objectively isn't the best way though, its better to just blow BT as fast as you can.
>>
after reading the f13 reddit, why do we hate it again?
it's alot like 4chan right now
>>
Let's end this argument once and for all

unless you play Wraith no perks or Dwight no perks red shirt you're one of multiple of the followings

>A faggot
>A camper
>A cuck
>A whiny survivorfag
>A salty survivorfag
>A skilless beta
>An idiot
>Somebody who should go and play F13
>Redditposter
>Phoneposter
>Summerposter

Did i cover everything?
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>>182275731
what if you don't play dbd becuase you dont find it fun?
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>>182270765
>the best way to counter it is make it trigger
actually that's right

best to kill borrowed time early so they can't cheese you at the exit gates later
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>>182274201
Right now, we hate it because it's cycled back to being cucks that are blaming Dilly Dingus personally for Cucktorian getting doxxed and his parent's dog getting threatened. Meanwhile, the game is still hilariously fucking broken, but we're going to waste another week or so talking about how gamers are evil.
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>>182276354

Then you're a F13 shill, there is no other possibility.
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>>182276828
>the game is still hilariously fucking broken, but we're going to waste another week or so talking about how gamers are evil.
ah yeah that does suck actually
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>>182142984
>>182143518
Vanessa main here. I prioritize objectives above all else. Within the first 5 minutes I'm usually ferrying parts to the car for someone to repair. I also can't tell you how many times a Jason has spawned on me early on and I end up distracting him for the next 10 minutes, giving the rest of the team time to get at least one form of escape finished.

It's genuinely satisfying to kite a frustrated tunnel-vision Jason for so long knowing that my team is getting the job done elsewhere.
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Is Last Year going to be Evolve with a fresh coat of paint?
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>>182277802
F13 is evolve with a fresh coat of paint
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>>182277802
probably
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