/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

>we need to simplify everything, just like other games are doing now LMAO
>numbers? who needs to put a thought in adding up skill points? DUDE RANDOM skill points activate LMAO

English, Japanese, or Monhan-go?

For me, it's English

gypceros is the worst fucking piece of shit ever conceived.

>>182019071
If skill point threshholds were random, wouldn't that mean you'd need to put more thought in?

SHILLS NEED TO FUCK OFF NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>182019179
I see you've never fought alatreon

>>182019181
There's no thresholds, Any number activates any skills.
JUST PUT 1 POINT IN EVERY SKILL LMAO

I unironically want them to bring back underwater combat

>>182019179
>can't break the crystal on its head that pretty much forces it to go retard and stand still for free hits
Git gud.

>>182019221
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Hunter Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Monster Like Nigga Abandon Quest Haha

>>182019302
don't worry, it's the new shill tactic of calling everyone who criticizes World a shill

>>182019179
no, that's silver rathalos

>>182019414
Just Normal bow the legs.

>>182019318
>poisons you from breathing the same air as you

>>182018996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY6-X67ohbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk3fv-hmdjM
>all gunner armors look exactly the same as blademaster armor guise
>it's definately not the case where majority of gunner armors are unique designs from blademaster armors at all guise

>>182019461
Post MH4 instead of 4G

>>182019281
>JUST PUT 1 POINT IN EVERY SKILL LMAO
>Randoms in clownsuits that do practically nothing
So it's the same as normal then

>>182019520
>It's ok because World and shitters do it!

>>182019181
>>182019281
There's no threshholds anymore, it's just tier levels because casuals are too stupid to do simple math.

>>182019437
Bows are for girls

>>182019515
I don't know any other video which shows all the armor sets the entire game has besides those. You can try looking for it yourself.

>>182019595
t. 900def pussy

>>182019560
It's okay because there's no practical difference
At absolute worst you might now have an extra equip slot or two you don't necessarily need that you can replace with filler for slightly more efficiency
Calm the fuck down

>>182019520
I think you're misunderstanding something here. Every armor piece shown in the video has an active skill now. Multiple skills of the same name stack up for better bonuses. So complete clownsuits will still have active skills as long as the armor pieces have a skill on them.

>>182019735
That makes 0 sense

>>182019735
Look at the video again. Armor skills are now all ACTIVE and have tier levels that stack. It doesn't work like how it used to anymore. As long as you equip an armor piece with an armor skill, it will be active.

>>182019767
>>182019874
>>182020108
>Shills
>Understanding game mechanics
Anon, I...

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*combos you to death*

>>182019767
>>182019874
In the demo, having 1 pip in each skill provided a very negligible difference
And those are just skills that make sense to be segmented that much, others don't deal with stats and would still have to have a single threshold

>>182020194
Fuck off nigger

>>182019097
Japanese in Frontier. It's the only hope for real MH gameplay.

>>182020314
>reddit spacing
>SEETHING

>>182020194
lol u sound kinda gay lmao

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>>182019461

All gunner armorsets do in fact look the same.

Check the Mizu sets. Totally the same.

Totally.

>>182020369
cringe

>>182020364
kys nintendrone

>>182020364
>still a redditor
>still doesn't know how reddit spacing works
still a mystery
you should really stop outing yourself every time you post

>>182020314
>others
I'm so sorry.

Not even 50 posts and this thread is already irredeemable shit

>>182020480
>cringe
cringe

>>182020501
If all the actual important skills were removed from the game, then the lack of skill thresholds doesn't matter at all

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manly monsters

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Hunts?

>>182020314
>It's okay because there's no practical difference
>In the demo, having 1 pip in each skill provided a very negligible difference
>shifting goalposts
Shilling hard I see.

post more cute monsters

>>182020978
There were no shifted goalposts, you just can't read
There is no situation where 10 extra points added to the generic "attack" value does anything other than make speedrunners and autists feel slightly better about themselves

>>182020458
>IT'S JUST AN ARMGUARD AND 1 SHOULDER PAD MISSING BRO
>IT STILL LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME BRO

>>182021143
>There were no shifted goalposts, you just can't read
>so exactly the same as before, because there's practically no difference
>except there is a negligible difference now
Nice goalpost shifting.
>There is no situation where 10 extra points added to the generic "attack" value does anything other than make speedrunners and autists feel slightly better about themselves
You also forget there are 7 tier levels now and it's added to true raw, not the bloated numbers you see. Do you even MH?

>>182021342
What do you think "practically" means
>You also forget there are 7 tier levels now
Okay, and? Having to have a good number of points in the skill to achieve a noticeable difference still means clownsuits made with zero thought will be shit
>added to true raw
Still not much of a difference if true

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>>182019767
And you seriously think that the skills aren't balanced around that? You think that you'll be able to get the full effect of sharpness+1 from a single piece of gear?

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>find newly made deviant turns Z room with one person
>click join
>when it finishes loading I'm the last one to join and two other people just got there and are at the entrance too
>my turn is always last and always runs the risk of not happening

Every time. The deviant system fucking sucks.
Everyone is so quick to join these turn rooms.

>>182021597
All that will be on mantles now

>>182021523
>What do you think "practically" means
>before clownsuits gave 0 bonuses
>now clownsuits will always give you a bonus no matter what combination you use
>shifting goalposts
Just stop you shill. It doesn't change the fact that armor skills have been dumbed down.

>>182021597
That wasn't the point of the argument though. Nice strawman.

>>182021749
They've been dumbed down on the surface, doesn't mean the value of a well put together set will be at all lessened
Again, you're arguing that getting 10 attack from a piece of gear is a big deal
This shit isn't a gamechanger

>>182021631
>hunting deviants
Why?

>>182021864
>shifting goalposts again while ignoring the initial argument
You shills man.

>>182021967
I never once shifted goalposts, you're just retarded

>>182022090
*your

>>182022115
*their

>>182022090
>I never once shifted goalposts
>claims the new system is like the old system and there is no difference
>oh but there is a difference now it's just not a big deal teehee
Shifting goalposts.
>you're just retarded
>*your
>correcting yourself when you got it right the first time
Shill is an ESL-kun I see.

>>182022218
*they're'sv'st've

>>182022250
I never said there was no difference, just that it didn't matter
Stop being retarded

>>182022510
you're just shifting the strawmen mr shill

>>182022250
>Can't read post times
>>>/reddit/

Why no blood in MHW? Plenty of the T-Rex 3ds and Vita games have had blood

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>>182022850
Why no blood in MHX?

>>182022510
Just stop with your shilling already.
>>182022628
I wasn't paying attention. Why would you correct him if you're wrong in the first place?

>>182022929
>Doesn't understand the concept of shitposting
>But is shitposting
You can stop anytime, retard

>>182022850
Worldbaby detected

>>182022850
Probably a mix of not wanting to make the pussy westerners mad at them and not really needing it with the damage numbers
So the blood was casualized

Or maybe just turned off for the demos

>>182023061
>shills have gotten this desperate
You might want to try reddit.

Does /vg/ have any sort of moderation?

>>182023408
If recent porn posting is anything to go by, no

>>182022904
Actually, there's an option to disable blood and stuff on Gen/XX

have mh3u and gen. Is mh4u worth getting at this point?

>>182024139
Considering it's the only good one of those three, yes

>>182024168
ahh i just bought gen today, should i go back tomorrow and trade it in for mh4u?

>>182024168
How can you hate on 3U?

>>182024139
Yeah it is. And it's not impossible to find online rooms or solicit the thread for one, just things have slowed down a bit, but the thing is it's the most solid game in recent MH.

>>182024254
ahh i see . i bought it at a local gamestop so i think ill go back and return it and pick up mh4u

>>182024248
You should hack your 3DS and download 4U and XX for free

>>182024254
I really fucking hate swimming

>>182024489
How likely is it for me to brick my 3ds in the process

>>182024489
I find it refreshing.

>>182024440
Unless you're insanely pressed for time, you should play some of both. But if I had to pick 4U or Gen, it's 4U times 1000.

>>182024534
Not very, assuming you can follow instructions, it takes a while but it's pretty straightforward
Though, granted, I hacked mine like 2 months ago and things have changed a bit since then, so maybe the entire process went to shit in that time

>>182024713
Where are some guides?

>>182024542
i just bought it today so i have 7 days to return it, unless i can find mh4u for cheap somewhere

>>182025158
3ds.guide

>>182019290
Same, the underwater areas of Deserted Island are so cool and comfy. Ceadeus' arena would look fucking amazing with MHW's graphical style.

>>182024087
which is likely why you're not seeing it in MHW footage

>>182025906
>Ceadeus' arena would look fucking amazing with MHW's graphical style
fuck that cunt, playing 3u for the first time after my main game of 4u and fuck the under water is trash.
i know i suck and even more so since i picked up a DB for the first time but god that first fight with him sucked.
i lost the first time and beat him the second but i felt as if it was a massive waste of time the both times i fought him.

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>need to force Divinesight Mizu to hit me to enter rage and open it's weakpoints
>the G3 one takes this much on my gunner set with a single hit
How the fuck did you handle getting Super Mizu to open it's claws/tail up gunner bros? Has anyone tested if Bubble Dancer forces it to be constantly enraged?

>>182024534
Near impossible if you have an IQ of at least 75

>>182026306
Just use brave cheating. All the shills told me it's easy

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I didnt check the whole thread but just in case it wasnt posted in here yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqlo9tBW9aQ

>>182026306
I don't think Bubbly Dance bubbles count the same as normal bubbleblight for the purpose of that mechanic

>>182026432
So it's always near impossible?

>>182026506
Those colours just pop out, even in the shitty YT video.
>inb4 called a shill

>>182026306
Bubble Dancer indeed forces Divinesight to rage. I just tested it

>>182026751
its a shame some chinese YT channel can post higher quality video of MHXX from a tv camera looking at the tv screen then Capcom themselves even when CapcomTV has a direct inline capture.

I wonder if they are so close to release that Capcom HQ told the MHXX dev team "Good luck advertising that shit my yourself and by word of mouth"

>>182026506
Why is there no saxophone hunting horn?
it's perfect

>>182026306
All you need to do is get slightly bubbled. You don't need to eat a hit.

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>>182026506
Remember this Taiwanese interview? Good times.

>>182026506
That looks pretty good for a 3ds port.

>>182027202
>those evasive answers
What a faggot, who was the interviewee?

>>182027279
Ryozo and Kojima of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFUHBPbeSrE

>>182027202
>Put 5 games on 3DS
>Stop putting games on Switch, which is an improvement over 3DS in every way
hmm.............

>>182027335
I think it's time for Kimishimia to Yamauchi the fuck out of Ryozo.

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>>182027349
Iwata is dead, nobody is going to pay the money.

>>182026564
Pretty much

>>182027474
damn.......time to buy a Vita*.......

*means Life Support

Why the fuck is the 7* advanced Gathering Hall shit harder than G1?

>>182027545
Don't worry, we can buy the PSP3 together.

>>182027598
Oh shit, when is that coming out? whao.....

>>182027723
TGS reveal hopefully. Release next year.

Also reminder that MHXX on Switch was a deal with Iwata

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20014756.html
>From the question and answer session of Capcom shareholders' meeting, a part is excerpted
>The story of putting a game on the switch was from Iwata (before Nintendo) president era.

>>182027598
>unironically wanting the madcatz-tier switch knockoff

>>182027917
As long as it's not Nintendo.

>>182027832
whoa...damn cool!!!!!! PS4 for casual MHWorld and PSP3 for the hardcore series? Count me in!!! #4THEPLAYERS

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>we're finally moving away from the shitfest that is the Critbabby Readiness meta
>people complain because they loved BIG RED FLASHES of 40000000% damage and 100m dives with 1y I-frames that restores 50 hits of sharpness in a press of a button

>>182028023
Nice hyperboles

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqlo9tBW9aQ

Holy fuck MHXX on the Switch looks so good despite being just a port.
Can't wait.

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>>182027974
Playstation in Japan has a different quote

できないことが、できるって、最高だ。

Which pretty much means "We can do everything"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3DYuk4atvE

Learn your shit man

>>182028175
Already posted, faggot
>unless you're trying to falseflag and do the gaihinhunter World analysis thing from last thread where someone posted his video multiple times and got called a shill.

>>182028023
nice strawman

>>182027950
>>>/v/

>>182028236
Apologies, didn't double check and thought I'd be first

>>182028234
I am not a japan, faggot
>>182028281
The video was posted on July 5. Was it shared somewhere recently?

>>182027128
Fungus saxophone exists

>>182020328
>Actually playing the JP version
cringe

>>182028623
>I am a nigger
wince

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Oh no, the Meowstress' litter is empty, she's all out of felynes to offer hunters in need!

"Worry not, little miss" you say, "I've got just the idea." "All it requires is you and my ____! "

>>182028175
lol it's not even 60fps
wtf is Capcom even doing right any more?

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>>182028927
I'll beam her to another world

>>182028949
This. Can't wait to play World in 60 FPS on my PS#4THEPLAYERS

>>182028949
It has crossplay with the 3DS which is 30fps

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>>182028927
Ignore the meowstress.
Go find a Lagombi qt.

>>182029032
It's not 60fps either you fucktard. Capcom went to shit long ago.

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>>182026506
That money shot at 5 minutes does look really, really nice.

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Seems that mantles will override your helmet appearance

>>182029285
Over rides helmet and torso. People complaining about armor designs being nerfed are fucking retarded.

>>182029502
The torso part is being covered anyway. But if you wear a helmet with your face closed off, that's not going to be reflected on the mantle hood.

>>182029285
I hate when they do something like this, take a word that has been fairly core to the series and just flip it on its head.

>>182029658
The fuck are you talking about

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>>182029712
The fuck could I be talking about?

>>182029562
So? There are still helmets that are closed, it doesn't affect design at all

>>182029562
But you can still drink potions with a closed helmet

>>182026506
>gave fish new models
>didn't give B.Bombs new models
I don't understand

>>182029806
Who said anything about that? I'm just saying when you wear a mantle, your helmet changes

>>182029763
Okay, so a word used for some rare monster drops is now also being used in a different applicable context
What's your point

>>182029763
>I Hvnly MH
Wot?

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Did anyone get a chance to play MHXX at the Japan Expo in France?

>>182029906
>Who said anything about that?
The person who you were replying to

>>182029936
Macron here, I did. Shit was cash.

>>182029915
>SteadyHand
>Steady Hand

XD

>>182030158
>>182030158
>Macron
Who? Anyway, did you take any pictures? Did you take any pictures of qts?

>>182030214
>Dead Eye
>Deadeye
xD
Also, reddit spacing

>>182029285
>implying anyone is going to use mantles besides shitters
The only mantle I can see getting used is the ghillie mantle when you just want to gather shit and return to the village asap. There's no way anyone would bother using mantles in combat.

>>182030296
kill yorslef

>>182030372
Age before beauty :)
Ladies first :)
After you :)

>>182030327
I can see people using challenger online when they want to tank and take attention off of ranged users

>>182030432
>tank
cringe

>>182023204
Turned off seems the most likely, since you can turn off the numbers too, and they confirmed blood at E3.

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You!
Post what you are hunting, right now!
Prove you are not part of the shitposting minority.

>>182030468
>cringe
disgust

>>182030548
I am hunting for You

>>182030480
I think numbers are better feedback tool than looking up and digesting a damage chart/MV spreadsheet

>>182030327
Rocksteady mantle gives superarmor. Mantles will be replacing many armor skills

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>>182030296
>Raizex
>Looks 5% like Rathalos
>alos...
>I know!
>Ass-talos!

>>182030574
>I am hunting for (You)'s
fixd

>>182030548
plesioth webbings

>>182030548
I am waiting for MHXX, currently on hunting hiatus. Just chilling in my little ocean bungalow in moga village with my girlfriend meowstress

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>>182030548
monsters aren't for hunting

>>182030612
Oh for sure, I definitely appreciate the practical use of the numbers, but even moreso that it's an option rather than forced.

I moved everything to the touch screen so I could have a UI-less top screen, of course I want 4k graphics to have less in the way of me and dinosaurs.

>>182030802
*Coming to PC at a later date

>ywn hear this again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFYYhtBpX_0

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>>182030548

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>>182030548
GHC plesioth

>>182030958
i alwys imagine to be ur pusy slave

>>182030548
I'm currently in a Bloodlust turns room waiting to get my G5 done.
One fag already bailed after his super got finished.

>>182030548
hyper rathalos
i don't like him!

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>>182030958
>4K HD Plesioth in MHW

>>182030548
G-rank Silver Los in 4U
It fucking sucks, I don't even want to imagine the Hyper version in XX.

>>182031116
*Coming to PC at a later date

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>>182020458
>even the sets that look good in-game, like toka, look way better in concept art
When is MHO getting toka so it can at least actually be shiny?? Or MHW for that matter.

At least dairy queen rathian's armour transferred to in-game well.

>>182031268
the rocks on Basarios's back are so low-poly. I really wish they put more work into the model

>>182030548
Clearing out village high rank in 3U
Really want to get at least one decent charm for my hammer setup before hitting G (I wanna stick WE on my Vangis set) but doesn't look like that's gonna happen. I've been spoiled by Coal Hearted in Gen.

>>182031260
>>182030875
Back to /v/eddit

>>182019767
>>182021829
Not him but what was the argument, then? If they're in a clownsuit that gives them 1 point of attack, 1 point of evasion, 1 point of latent power, 1 point of expert and 1 point of handicraft, they're going to have 1 extra point of raw, 7 iframes on their roll, 1% extra affinity after five minutes or taking forty healthbars of damage, 1% extra affinity out of the gate and 5 extra hits before their weapon goes down a sharpness tier, so it's basically literally nothing. If you're building a total clownsuit like that with "ONE POINT IN EVERY SKILL LMAO" you're still better off selecting for defence than what the skills actually are.

What this actually means is more freedom for people to finetune their sets to their preferences, meaning more variety in what people will make/wear endgame, and a longer lifespan on the TA scene (unless shit like 47 points of evasion or 60 points of attack is possible and actually scales up now, in which case I guess attack up extra extra large will be the meta).

>>182026751
>even in the shitty YT video
Saturation and contrast boosts are being applied, possibly unintentionally as quirks of how the camera works. It also looks really bad, so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they haven't fucked up the aesthetic even more in the switch version.

>>182028927
"all of these eggs"

>>182030548
Nothing but I'm getting ready to do my G4 keys by upgrading weapons.

>>182032159
>Saturation and contrast boosts are being applied, possibly unintentionally as quirks of how the camera works. It also looks really bad, so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they haven't fucked up the aesthetic even more in the switch version.
Any source on this other than your ass? Have you seen it in person? No? then shut the fuck up you reddit spacer

>>182032159
>If they're in a clownsuit that gives them 1 point of attack, 1 point of evasion, 1 point of latent power, 1 point of expert and 1 point of handicraft, they're going to have 1 extra point of raw, 7 iframes on their roll, 1% extra affinity after five minutes or taking forty healthbars of damage, 1% extra affinity out of the gate and 5 extra hits before their weapon goes down a sharpness tier, so it's basically literally nothing
>pulling random numbers out your ass
It's confirmed that 1 tier of attack is 5 raw, so you obviously made up bullshit numbers to back your argument.

>>182031174
Don't worry, XX is a joke compared to literally any other MH game.

>>182026751
That's 4thGen aesthetic in general

>>182032159
Oh yea I forgot this.
>What this actually means is more freedom for people to finetune their sets to their preferences, meaning more variety in what people will make/wear endgame, and a longer lifespan on the TA scene (unless shit like 47 points of evasion or 60 points of attack is possible and actually scales up now, in which case I guess attack up extra extra large will be the meta).
>implying people couldn't finetune their sets to their preferences using the old system
>47/60 points
>when the video clearly shows only 7 tiers
>confirmed for not having even watched the video

>>182033003
>shills
>watching videos or playing games
Anon...

>>182032947
Considering it is much better than X, not literally.

>>182032940
>>182033003
>It's not this tiny number you pulled out of your ass, it's actually this other tiny number
>What is exaggeration
a u t i s m

>>182033171
>get called out for pulling fake numbers
>i-it's s-still t-tiny
Just.

>>182033520
I'm not even that anon
You're just an idiot

>>182033716
Classic "not him" fallacy, shill

>>182033520
Im that guy but you're getting wrapped up in the other dude's presentation of the argument rather than the argument itself. He's right and youre a fag to get worked up about the new system.

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Dat reload animation tho

>>182033873
>"not him" fallacy
Go home shitposter, you're drunk

>>182033882
>don't worry about it, goy, world is going to be amazin, don't worry about small details

What's the best GS skin?

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>tfw your favourite monster has shit gear
At least his theme is GOAT, r-right bros?

>>182034004
I didn't know our posts on /vg/ were part of World
Are we already playing the game?
Has technology progressed so far that we don't realize we're inside the simulation?

>>182020458
Is this from an artbook? Sauce?

>>182034082
Le Shangri-la

>>182034064
They all suck. The one everyone uses is the lao one though.

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>>182034064
What game?

>>182034082
his DB, Gunner armor, Lance, HBG are all pretty good throughout the games he appears in. Also has a GOAT relic skin since it is fully colourable

>>182033923
Goddamn my weaponfu looks so sexy in this game so far, that fuckin recoil and reload animations, unf

>>182034082
>>182034137
Le Paladin is also top-tier in 4U.

>>182033882
But I did refute your argument, because it has no basis since you pulled random numbers out your ass. not only that, you spouted random numbers that were already confirmed from said video itself, proving you didn't even watch it.
Don't reply to me anymore if you're just going to make up fake shit without even having watched the video.

>>182034631
you're retarded

>>182034631
>argument has no basis
>still applies with the real numbers
lol

>>182034631
the argument is armor skills are more flexible, not the numbers

>>182035430
>flexible
AKA casualized. No need to put any thought in your armours choice. DUDE PUT RANDOM SHIT TOGETHER LMAO

>>182035516
>DUDE PUT RANDOM SHIT TOGETHER LMAO
>>182032159

>>182035516
no need to put any thought in your posts either it seems

>>182035516
>No need to put any thought in your armours choice
Yeah because getting
>Gathering
>Sharpness
>Sharpening Inc
>Crit boost
>Throwing
Is a good idea. You'd still have to think. Then again, it seems you can't do that too.

>>182035516
It means you can build a set for appearance and get SOMEthing out of it

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Who needs Evade Extender or Steve weapons, just use Readiness. Instant sub5 kills everytiem

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So we are all in agreement that Fujioka is a hack right?

>>182035691
>mid-game monster

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>>182035701
"No"

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>infinite whetstones
Nice, no more wasting time on tediousness.

So what """casualized""" feature in MHW are people are complaining about now?

Now that i've seen clean gameplay it looks like a more polished and evolved MH

>>182036035
Its getting really hard to tell if people are being sarcastic. Either way, you have practically infinite wheststones from basic mining, or just buying them outright, or fucking gathering them from the infinite spot when you need them. So yeah, I do like it.

>>182036092
Armor skills working differently (i.e. shit)

>>182036092
MHW ditching the CritBoost meta in favor of an actually functional skill system with no bandaids required(looking at you, transMMOg).

>>182034137
>>182034371
>Le
Go back.

>>182036217
muh consequences

>>182036135
So why change it to infinite whetstones if it wasn't a problem before?

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>>182036293
Quelle?

>>182036367
Or it could be just because it's a demo.

>>182036367
remove tedium

>if extra steps aren't a problem then why not add more

see how stupid that sounds

>>182036367
It's QoL, much like midquest item deliveries

>>182036445
:) That told me all I needed to know. Have agreat day, friend.

>>182036035
If the item doesn't run out then why does it have the infinite symbol instead of just not having a counter, like mantles

>>182034710
>>182034903
>>182035430
>the real numbers are vastly different than the fake numbers he pulled out his ass
Please, try harder.

>>182036549
>vastly different
now who's making shit up

>>182029285
This was already stated yesterday as well

>>182036581
>>182032940
>If they're in a clownsuit that gives them 1 point of attack
>they're going to have 1 extra point of raw
>in the video 1 tier of attack gives 5 raw attack
5 times more than the fake number you pulled out your ass. Watch the video you fucking retard.

>>182029763
English must not be your 1st lang if them doing this confuses you. Go back to frontier reddit

>>182036671
Doj, go back to r9k or whatever.

>>182030626
ass-to-mouth

>>182036652
0.9 is nine times 0.1 but it's still less than 1, what's your point

>>182036652
The hunter is doing around 50+ damage on hit to the head. 4 points of damage is less than 10% of effect damage, and thats before defense values. It might be making less than 1 point of damage of difference. If you're going to play the numbers game play it right. The argument still stands, having a single stack of a skill gives you negligible benefit

>>182031268
MHO is so shit tier

>>182036751
and 5 raw is still 500% of 1 raw which is more than 1, what's your point?

>that one guy that is always spouting "ESL" when he doesn't have any arguments left

>>182036880
That both numbers are small and you're retarded, which you've more than proven with your lack of understanding

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Rolling unloads your special HBG ammo, kinda like rolling out of siege mode. Also new rolling animation for HBG.

>>182036841
You forgot there's 7 tiers. 7 tiers is 35 raw which is more than what atk up XL (25 raw) gives and since they got rid of thresholds, it's going to be easier to combine them. Just admit the game is getting casualized.

>>182035801
shows up to court with evidence against himself.....every time

>>182037024
>just admit I'm right
Pathetic.

>>182036947
Whoops not rolling, but sheathing your weapon.

>>182036932
>That both numbers are small
Have you never played MH? Those small numbers add up when you stack them. The guy who gave that shitty fake example that 1 point = 1 attack gives a false sense of scale when it's actually 1 point = 5 raw which is 5 times more than his fake number.

>>182037024
>7 tiers
>An entire set's worth of skill points makes you stronger!
What are you even arguing about anymore, man

>>182037086
>pulls fake numbers out his ass to skewer his argument
>still thinks 35 raw is a small number
>doesn't actually know how damage numbers work in previous MH games
Just fuck off.

>>182037105
>>182037024
This is fucking retarded, both of you are arguing that an entire commitment to a skill results in a tangible difference which is literally how it works now. The argument was that a single tier provides negligible benefit. This is moving the goalposts so far they're in the other team's goal.

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It's Mantle time bois

>>182030235
>Divinesight Mizu
kill yourself you idolising faggot.
I dont care much for god but he had this much right, dont worship false fags

>>182036947
>Anjanath slides because shitty collision detection
I thought Capcom wanted to utilize the NEXT GEN POWER?

>>182037105
And 5 displayed raw is still negligible
That's less than 1 point of damage on any given attack

>>182037243
when does that happen?

>>182037209
>The argument was that a single tier provides negligible benefit
Not to the extent where that retard pulled fake numbers out his ass. The whole fucking problem was using fake numbers as his argument in the first place. Fuck off if you can't even see that.

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i just realised i am a massive queer, Is X or World for me?

>>182037275
it doesn't the retard is mistaking the Anja stumbling from getting the shit shot out if it for sliding

>>182037327
85% of Nintendo fans are bi.

>>182036841
>this guy says that one stack is basically pointless

>>182037024
>this guy responds that maximum stacks has a purpose


what the fuck kind of conversation is this

>>182037294
>The whole fucking problem was me ignoring his argument to focus on the fake numbers even though they weren't part of his point
Glad you can admit it

>>182037275
In the first second where he gets fliched but it just looks like he's skating on ice because of NEXT GEN POWER

>>182037269
It's still more than what clownsuits used to give in the old system, which was fucking nothing, that's the whole fucking point. Stop trying to defend casualization with you retarded "it's negligible therefore it's okay" argument.

Did they show any slut armor in all the World footage we'e been shown?
I don't care about all the casualization, but a lack of sluts would be a disaster for me.

>>182037389
>right foot takes a step and drags the rest of the body with it
>sliding

???

>>182037395
If it doesn't make the game easier then it's not cassualized
As someone said earlier you're still better off choosing armor just for defense value for all the good the skills will do you

>>182037373
see >>182037395
and stop replying to me faggot.

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Dunno why there's a hold R1 button prompt during the recovery animation to jump. But everything here is fluid af. Reminds me of MGSV's fluidity.

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+35 Raw is nothing when XX allowed you to do 40x times more damage than that by just stacking affinity.

>>182037389
have fun on your 3DS

>>182037431
No right foot also slides, look again

>>182037467
>those animations where it walks in place like a bugs bunny cartoon character
NEXT GEN POWER

>>182037459
>If it doesn't make the game easier then it's not cassualized
>implying making armor skills idiot proof isn't making the game easier
>there are people in this thread who actually defend dumbing down MH

>>182037552
Should he powerslide along the wall like the past 14 years of MH games then?

>>182037552
yeah cus MH always had perfect animations

>>182037612
More than what we can say for the MMOs

>>182037467
>that "wave" on the ground animations
NEXT GEN POWER
>>182037593
>>182037612
not an argument. I thought being on a NEXT GEN console would have fixed all the shitty handheld jankiness....I guess not...damn

>>182037368
Seems like the typical /mhg/ conversation to me. People flinging shit at each other and putting words into each others mouths over a topic with not enough info to really have an argument about

>>182037652
nobody cares

>>182037693
I thought all the fans of MHWorld did since they keep citing developer interviews with UTILIZING NEXT GEN POWER TO MAKE REALISTIC AI AND ENVIRONMENT

>>182037576
It makes that shitty ancillary part of the game easier, but won't actually change how people play it
Casuals will still wear shitty clownsuits, and they'll still be woefully unprepared for fighting compared to someone with an actual thought out set
The most this will do will expand armor options for people who actually know what they're doing
There is literally nothing wrong with this other than your autism

>>182037729
name one time that happened

>>182037691
lol I've been ignoring it this whole time. these autists trying to eat each other alive.

>>182037729
The only people citing dev interviews are the ones whining about westernization

>>182037828
source?

>>182037756
>it's okay because it's negligible
You are everything wrong with what MH is becoming.

>>182037880
good?

>>182037842
These threads, where the fuck else?

>>182037880
>it's okay because you don't have to use it
same shit, diferent fanbase

>>182037906
>he unironically thinks that's a good thing
KYS 4U baby

>>182037552
>>182037652
>>182037729

AI =/= Animation

Nor does the power in a next gen console. That's more for textures, draw distance, lighting, etc.

Somebody still has to rig the skeletons and build a system of locomotion by hand. What makes you think "NEXT GEN" power would have any affect on what kind of animations you could make?

A game from 5 years ago with amazing animation would still trump a game 5 years from now with shit animation. It is what it is, regardless of tech.

>>182037880
I'm sorry you don't like the change
XX is still technically new, so at least you still have that for now

Boy, I am sure going to love tracking the monster with my bug for 100th time when I am grinding it. it's also going to be really exciting watching two monster attacj each other using canned animations for the 100th time. And did I tell you about all the epic environmental interactions like dams breaking? EPIC!!!

>>182037946
been playing since portable, like 6k total hours but sure, enjoy that delusion of authority

>>182037992
>tracking a monster you're grinding
>when you already know exactly where it is
what

>>182037995
>he's been playing since portable and he thinks dumbing down the game is a good thing
Yea sounds legit.

>>182037948
AI is just one example. Animations are still shitty for all the NEXT GEN POWER bullshit they've spouted. I thought the mainline team was working on this? damn...

>>182037948
Actually better power does give AI potential. But as you said, you still need to do it manually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhcykUo5SUA

>>182038051
Aren't environments supposed to be dynamic like gaijinhunter and projared said? You won't know exactly where it is :) damn...

>>182037992
>watching two monster attacj each other using canned animations for the 100th time
Is it any worse than myself attacking the monster with the same canned animation for the 100th time?

>>182038057
Was it dumbing down the game when they moved attacks to buttons instead of the joystick? farms? adventure pouch? shits gonna change, at least wait until the game is out before making up strawmen

>>182038063
I don't know what gave you the idea that the devs making these games were all about making the best product they can and not cutting any corners, but you've been sorely mistaken
If you have any faith in capcom at this point you have fucking brain problems

>>182038063
Are you high? The animations look good.
Also, including NEXT GEN POWER in every one of your posts makes you look like an absolute retard.

>>182038063
>another (you), for your troubles

Did you read the post at all? I gave several other examples beyond AI. What exactly is it you think "NEXT GEN POWER" would be able to do to improve animations? They wont just magically be better simply due to sik speccs. Somebody still has to build them. Several somebodies.

>>182038138
wait so are you mad that tracking the monster matters cus of the dynamic environments, or that it doesn't matter and you can still bee line to the monster like always?

>>182038138
At best there'll be like two or three locations where a monster can be at the start of a quest, just like every other game
Go back to /v/

>>182038167
But that's what gaijinhunter and projared told me......
>>182038179
Animations look average and have shitty collision detection with environment

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As long as the animations are easy to read like FU, it's all fine. I want headsniping to be comfy again, not stressful like nowadays.

>>182038221
I don't know, ask the developers. They said that they need NEXT GEN POWER to make World the best it can.
>>182038228
No, I am just mad because we'll have to use the tracking every time we want to fight, going to be tedious, just like flexing.
>>182038258
It's dynamic, didn't you read gaijinhunter's tweets?

>>182038263
marketing is retarded, what else is new

>>182037576
>>implying making armor skills idiot proof isn't making the game easier
How so? I don't understand.

>>182038127
>Actually

I said power improves AI. What are you smonking

>>182038263
>shitty collision detection with environment
We're talking about a series that has historically had massive clipping issues just with shit the player character can wear
If you honestly think anyone has expectations that high or can't ignore shit like that by now then the problem is with you, not everyone else

>>182038356
Are you telling me that all the fans of World ITT fell for retardations?
>>182038389
Ask developers, they needed NEXT GEN POWER for all the things shitty handhelds couldn't do

>>182038354
>No, I am just mad because we'll have to use the tracking every time we want to fight, going to be tedious, just like flexing.

is it though? it takes like half a second to scan a footprint and you can full sprint through uneven terrain

>>182038354
I don't want to ask the developers, I'm asking YOU. Can you give me a legitimate answer?

>the same 10 bait posts every thread

>>182038428
Yeah it is.
>>182038449
I'm not the one making the game sweety. Ask the developers, they wanted more power for better animations.

>>182038426
I don't even know what point you're making. World looks cool to me and I'm pretty excited about it. None of that excitement has to do with any of the bullshit you're talking about

>>182038358
>AI =/= Animation
>Nor does the power in a next gen console

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>>182038461
Way more preferable to XXbabs trying to enforce their double standards onto the 3rdGen fanbase.
>anime is okay when mainline does it

>>182038426
>they needed NEXT GEN POWER for all the things shitty handhelds couldn't do
Yeah
And they got it
The game looks a lot better visually than the 240p 3ds games unless you're one of those autists complaining because he was conditioned to like the overblown colors the 3ds games necessitated
What the fuck are you so assmad about

>ctrl+F (You)
>1 of 66
thanks
>>182038564
Just visuals, animations and AI is still janky. Oh well, I didn't think MH team would fall into the GRAFX trap but damn.....

>>182038620
>animations and AI is still janky
Yeah man, they should totally use the original Nintendo ones. It was so smooth and lifelike.

>>182038357
>>182038140
>shits gonna change, at least wait until the game is out before making up strawmen
>system can already be confirmed by watching the videos
>j-just w-wait
Fuck off with your shilling already. With every new info released the game is becoming more apparent it's a western casualization of the series.

>>182038680
not an argument, with NEXT GEN POWER, I expected an upgrade from shitty handheld standards. I guess I;ll go back to horizon zero dawn

>>182038461
Better get used to it, this is the future /mhg/ is heading towards.

>>182038542
Nice quote. And in it I state that neither AI nor more power translate to better animation.

At no point did I say power does not apply to AI.

>>182038719
Please don't go, we really want you around here.Whatever will we do without you chiming in with your opinions.

>>182038716
>Anjanath turns to face away the player for no reason
NEXT GEN AI BASED RYOZO

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Remember when MH did not need graphical power to look good?
It's telling that mainline went to shit visually the moment the graphic designers from 3rdGen left for greener pastures.

>>182038716
>Palico teleports from Anjanath's leg to the other side
NEXT GEN POWER

>>182038513
So no then. Just trying to see if you had any original ideas or opinions in that head of yours, but apparently it's just as empty as the majority of the thread has assumed at this point.

Enjoy your cool life where you're mad about nothing all the time.

>>182038707
shut the fuck up /v/, actually answer the question
I still don't see how the new skill system is casualized

>>182038872
So who the fuck that they sent all around the world to study map design?

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/18/monster-hunter-4-developers-traveled-around-world-collect-data/

>>182038806
>>182038887
You can wait for your thoughts to come in clearer anon. I know living with autism is hard but you have to try. You can just put it in one post.

>still no footage of the inflatable nose being broken

I'm beginning to doubt that it's a breakable part, which is a real waste since it would be so satisfying to pop it.

>>182038806
>no reason
It was targeting the palico, but then the palico was out of its reach. Cats being the worst feature of the game, as usual.

>>182038140
>>watching two monster attacj each other using canned animations for the 100th time
>Is it any worse than myself attacking the monster with the same canned animation for the 100th time?
>this mental gymnastics

>>182038953
Irrelevant when 4thGen is a pixelated rainbow horsepile with Ancestral Toilet being the worst offender.